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A
Okay,
are
you
seeing
that
I
started
the
recording?
Oh
there,
it
is
perfect,
I'm
like
it
didn't
pop
up
for
me
at
first,
so
so
what
I'll
do
welcome
everyone?
This
is
our
august
advisory
committee
on
aging
meeting
today.
It's
really
focused
on
the
phase
two
of
public
safety.
A
As
mentioned
anjalik,
our
interim
chair
is
gonna,
be
late,
so
I'll
just
kick
it
off
with
roll
call.
I
know
tom
is
not
on
unless
I'm
missing
you
tom,
are
you
here.
A
Flo
I
know
you're
here
I
just
talked
to
you
so
and
I
know
you.
I
just
had
a
dental
surgery,
so
you
don't
have
to
say
here.
I
know
you're
here
because
I
know
it
hurts
melinda
president
janet.
A
Paulette
yep,
I'm
here,
hazel
present
angelique
we'll
be
late,
ellen
and.
A
Perfect,
perfect:
okay,
before
we
start
does
anyone
we
do
have
a
quorum
present.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
before
we
start
with
what
the
process
is?
I
know
we've
had
this
conversation
before
when
they
did
phase
one
of
public
safety
and
we
spent
some
time.
So
I
really
appreciate
everyone's
willingness
to
work
with
me
and
to
go
down
with
these
questions,
so
I'm
just
going
to
start
off
unless
there's
anything
anyone
wants
to
say
first.
A
Okay,
so
since
last
summer,
regarding
the
city's
efforts
at
reimagining
public
safety,
what
have
you
liked
and
what
have
you
not
liked.
A
No,
not
necessarily
you
can
raise
your
hand
or.
E
See
I
like
the
concept
of
having
healthcare
or
mental
health
responders
and
decreasing
the
armed
police
from
attending
those
incidents.
What
I
don't
like
is
the
fact
that
there
hasn't
been.
I
don't
feel
that
the
ballot
measure
has
been
very
well
described
that
it
they
say
they're
going
to
do
these
things,
but
I
I
need
to
know
the
steps
that
they're
going
to
go.
F
I
couldn't
agree
more
you're,
exactly
right,
my
opinion
and
many
others
that
I
mean.
I
love
the
idea
that
mental
health
or
safety
officers,
whatever
the
word
I
mean
we're
so
caught
up
in
words.
Unfortunately,
I
mean
if
it's
called
a
counselor,
maybe
or
an
officer,
but
any
any
public
safety
personnel
versus
an
armed
police
officer
who
hasn't
had
mental
health,
training
or
counseling
training,
necessarily
or
at
least
I
mean,
maybe
if
it
was
communicated,
if
officers
were
showing
up
what
their
background
is.
What
are
the
training
protocols?
F
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
clear
plan
on
what
the
city
would
like
to
do
for
officers
or
counselors
and
who
would
be
showing
up
and
what
and
maybe
give
examples
of
who
would
be
showing
up.
I
think
it
would
be
very
helpful
if
people
felt,
though,
that
they
still
could
be
protected,
somehow
that
there
are
and
maybe
not
just
call
them
police
call
them
public
safety
officers,
and
maybe
there
are
different
categories
of
public
safety
officers.
F
I
mean
everyone
wants
the
same
thing
really,
regardless
of
where
they
live
or
what
their
situation
is
or
what
their
background
is.
They
want
their
family
safe,
they
want
to
feel
safe
and
they
want
help
when
they
need
it,
whether
it's
mental
health
or
or
physical
health,
and
so
if
there
was
a
clear
understanding
of
what
the
plan
was,
I
think
and
what
people
were
voting
on.
Certainly,
I
think
that
would
be
helpful.
F
I
like
that
there's
been
talk
about
that
change
needs
to
be
made.
I
don't
like
that.
There
seems
to
be
such
an
uptick
in
crime,
and
I
I
mean
who
would,
but
it
really
does
seem-
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
because
things
like
the
citizen
app
and
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
get
those
citizen
app
notifications,
but
it's
been
pretty
shocking.
How
many
carjackings
there
have
been
recently
and
how
many
people
you
know.
F
G
I
was
a
victim
of
crime
between
last
the
last
meeting
in
this
meeting
I
was
rob
so
I
have
personal
experience
with
my
own
public
safety.
I
agree
I
this
my
my
wallet
was
stolen.
It
took
three
hours
for
a
police
officer
to
to
come.
It
wasn't
considered
a
robbery,
I
consider
it
an
invasion
and
a
great
act
of
aggression,
because
somebody
jumped
into
the
back
seat
of
my
car.
While
I
was
in
the
car
and
took
my
wallet
so
I've
been
in
the
last
two
weeks
replacing
everything
and
it's
it's.
G
You
know
it's
a
major
inconvenience,
but
it
wasn't
a
physical
assault
on
me.
It
was
a
professional
job.
The
person
was,
I
was
at
the
seward
co-op,
the
person
15
minutes
after
was
already
at
target
trying
to
cash
in
and
when
I
did
talk
to
the
police,
they
said.
Oh,
that's
typical.
They
all
all
of
that
kind
of
crime.
They
all
go
to
target.
It's
a
big
box
store,
that's
where
they
can
cash
in
so,
but
in
terms
of
the
whole
debate
going
on
swirling
around
public
safety.
G
I
think
we
we
almost
might
be
better
served
for
it.
Not
even
to
be
on
the
ballot
in
november,
because
it
is
so
fraught
with
misunderstanding
now.
G
I
have
not
liked
any
of
the
conversation
about
comparing
minneapolis
to
portland
oregon
to
newark
new
jersey
to
austin
texas.
Those
are
all
all
major
metropolitan
areas
that
have
had
this
experience.
Austin
texas
has
had
a
terrible
experience.
Newark
has
had
a
better
experience
and
somehow
or
another
minneapolis
seems
to
be
the
petri
dish
of
the
nation
right
now,
and
I
don't
like
the
whole
emphasis
on
well
we'll
just
experiment
and
see
how
it
goes.
G
G
It
might
not
be
no,
there
may
be
a
special
election,
a
judge,
it's
being
appealed
right
now,
it's
being
appealed
right
now
and
there
may
it
may
have
be
consigned
to
a
special
election.
That
may
happen
so
I
mean
that
hasn't
been
determined.
Yet
that's
yet
to
be
determined,
but
that's
the
problem
with
this
whole
public
safety
debate
to
be
determined,
I
mean
there
are
no
clear-cut
answers
and
people
don't
appreciate
that.
Okay,.
A
H
Tom
weiss
I
had,
I
have
had
trouble
signing
in,
and
so
I
have
just
came
in
on
the
telephone.
A
Okay,
nice
to
see
you.
A
Yep,
I
will
tell
you
right
now
and
thank
you
for
taking
notes.
I
really
really
appreciate
that,
and
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
an
opportunity
to
give
your
input
as
well.
The
people
who
are
present
besides
yourself
are
flo
melinda,
janet
paulette,
hazel,
ellen
and
beth
and
angelique
should
be
joining
us
shortly.
But
as
of
now,
she
is
not
here.
D
A
D
Okay,
this
is
jan
that
I
think
I
I
agree
with
what
everybody
has
said.
I
I
I'm
actually
I'm
working
for
this
for
the
amendment
hoping
actually
hoping
it
gets
on
the
belt
really
wish
to
got
on
the
ballot
last
year.
I
really
wanted
to
see
it
on
the
ballot
last
year.
I
didn't
want
to
be
to
be
dragged
out
a
year
here,
because
I
really
felt
it
would
muddied
the
waters
and
it
really
has
I'm
afraid.
D
If
we
got
a
little
help
on
homicide
investigation
from
another
jurisdiction,
I
think
that
would
that
would
at
least
be
probably
as
much
police
help
as
we're
getting
right.
Now.
People
who
have
the
car
stolen
are
getting
them
back
without
any
of
the
evidence
being
processed
at
all
so
and
basically
they're.
Finding
their
own
cars
in
the
impound
lot
is
where
they're
finding
them.
D
So
so
there
really
hasn't
been
help
on
finding
the
cars
or
or
on
finding
out
who
did
it
so
yeah
I
mean,
I
think
that,
and
and
also
I
really.
I
think
I
really
want
to
see
this
passed,
because
I
don't
really
think
the
mayor
is
the
one
that
should
be
in
charge
of
a
public
safety
department
simply
because
a
totalitarian
mayor
could
leave
us
in
a
very,
very
bad
situation,
and
there
wouldn't
be
very
much
that
the
city
council
could
do
about
it.
D
They'd
be
fairly
helpless,
so
anyway,
that's
kind
of
kind
of
where
I'm
coming
from
and
I'm
I'm
working
actively
for
it.
I
hope
it
gets
on
the
ballot,
I'm
I'm
with
paulette,
I'm
not
being
sure
that
it
will
that
the
people
who
are
contesting
it
legally
are
going
to
go
down
they're,
trying
to
go
down
and
and
time
it
out
as
far
as
you
know,
by
contesting
it
past
the
time
when
it
needs
to
be
on
the
ballot
and
the
ballots
need
to
be
printed
so
anyway.
F
I
like
the
idea
of
the
mayor
working
with
the
city
council,
not
the
city
council,
choosing
or
the
mayor
choosing,
but
working
in
conjunction
together.
You
know
kind
of
like
if
you
look
at
congress,
ideally
working
with
the
president
at
least
getting
some
some
semblance
of
bipartisanship
or
I
mean
even
if
they're
the
same
part
it
shouldn't
matter.
Party
public
safety
is
a
health
issue.
It's
a
mental
health
issue.
It's
a
safety
issue,
I
mean
everyone.
Should
there
shouldn't
be
division,
ideally.
G
I
would
agree,
I
see
no
way
that
a
13-member
city
council
can
handle
administering
what
has
not
even
been
determined.
Yet
we
don't
know
what
what
the
new,
how
the
new
city
council
is,
going
to
be
who's
going
to
be
on
it
and
who
isn't
and
they're
they're
they're,
certainly
not
collegial
that
that
would
be
there's
no,
no
ability
for
them
to
reach
any
kind
of
consensus,
and
I
feel
very.
E
D
F
F
A
So
this
is
the
office
of
violence
prevention
who
has
been
leading
the
the
reform
for
public
safety,
the
work
this
is
phase
two
of
their
engagement.
They've
collected
the
first
round
of
data,
and
you
know
we
had
that
conversation
before
and
so
from
that
first
round.
That's
why
they're
diving
deeper
into
these
questions
kind
of
asking
more
targeted
questions
versus
the
overall
like
what
do
you
think
about
even
changing
our
public
safety
like
they
want
to
know
where
we,
where
you
know?
A
You
know
questions
like
that,
so
this
is
being
collected.
That's
why
again,
I
so
appreciate
tom
taking
notes,
I'm
trying
to
I'm
scribbling,
I'm
scribbling
all
over
here,
so
I
can't
beat
tom's
acumen
at
taking
notes.
So
so
yes,
these
will
be
collected
by
the
office
of
violence
prevention.
A
I'm
leading
two
other
conversations
myself
with
a
group
of
lgbtq
plus
elders,
as
well
as
with
the
advisory
committee
on
disabilities,
which
we'll
touch
we'll
touch
on
that.
If
we
have
time
at
the
end,
we'll
talk
about
that
and
melinda
also
brought
up
a
survey
that
was
sent
out
and
I
would
love
to
share
with
you,
so
you
can
get
it
out
to
your
networks
yeah.
This
is
the
time
yep
go
ahead
tom.
A
H
H
It
seems
to
me
that
until
there's
a
change
in
that
and
and
the
officers
out
there,
I
mean
the
stories
that
came
out
this
last
week
about
the
officers
going
out
during
the
floor,
george
floyd
thing
and
and
the
and
the
acquittal
of
the
man
who
was
responding
to
their
unprovoked
fire
at
him.
I
just
don't
see
how
you're
going
to
change
anything
until
until
the
officers
themselves
change-
and
I
don't
you
know
changing
the
management-
is
not
in
any
practical
way
going
to
change
the
people
we
have
out
on
the
street.
A
F
C
F
And
also
on
social
media,
I
follow
the
city,
various
local
elected
officials,
a
lot
of
you
know
on
on
twitter,
facebook.
Those
are,
I
guess,
the
main
places.
G
Sure
I
just
basically
read
liz
navratil
she's,
the
bottom
line,
she's
the
most
authoritative
source
of
information,
the
star
tribune
reporter
for
the
city
council
and-
and
that's
that's
my
bottom
line
and
I
am,
incidentally,
turned
off
by
words
like
reimagining
public
safety.
Okay,
that
is
a
turn
off.
As
far
as
I'm
concerned,
I
mean
it
just
doesn't
resonate.
G
D
D
A
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Anybody
else
have
anything
to
add
before
we
move
on
to
what
is
happening
in
your
respective
communities
as
far
as
community-led
safety
strategies
that
are
being
implemented.
If,
if
any,
if
there's
not,
you
know
feel
free
to
share
that
too.
I
The
kingfield
neighborhood
is
organizing,
I
I
think
it's
tonight,
a
meeting
and
it's
being
archived
they're,
asking
the
city
clerk
to
appear
before
the
neighborhood
who
are
interested
in
explaining
the
amendment
as
it
will
or
the
thing
that
will
appear
on
the
ballot
and
answering
those
questions.
So
our
neighborhood
is
looking
at
it
kind
of,
in
a
broad
view,
sure.
A
B
C
A
Okay,
thank
you
thinking
about
community
and
neighborhoods,
where
you
live,
what
does
policing
look
like?
Is
it
working?
Is
it
not
working?
What
is
the
relationship
in
your
perspective,
in
your
respective
communities,
with
law
enforcement.
F
E
I
would
second
that
in
the
south,
minneapolis
neighborhoods,
that's
on
my
next-door
hail
that
people
are
very
disturbed
with
for
a
couple
of
there's
a
home
broken
into
by
field
recently,
while
someone
was
in
the
house,
the
lack
of
police
showing
up
or
not
showing
up
for
hours
and
then
a
lot
of
catalytic
converter
tests.
F
Yeah
and
increasingly
there
have
been
a
lot
of-
I
mean
historically,
people's
cars
get
broken
into,
especially
when
they're
left
unlocked,
but
lately
there
have
been
people
going
into
people's
garages,
while
people
are
in
the
car
before
they
get
out
of
the
car
to
take
the
car
and
then
strip
it.
But
you
know
actively
engaging
with
individuals
in
their
own
garages.
E
Happened
to
me
last
october,
and
but
they
weren't
interested
in
my
car,
they
were
interested
in
my
career.
G
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
did
what
you're
supposed
to
do
after
you're
a
victim
of
crime
and
went
through
all
the
steps
filed
a
police
report.
It
took
the
police
three
hours
to
come
and
it
was
in
a
parking
lot.
So
it
was
all
on
security
film
so
that
the
evidence
was
there.
G
There
was
a
picture
of
him,
and
but
when
I
called
the
desk
sergeant,
I
was
told
it's
probably
never
going
to
rise
to
the
it
was
not
going
to
rise
to
the
level
it
might
be
assigned
to
an
investigator,
but
probably
not
because
it's
just
it
just
wasn't
there.
There's
police
are
stretched
so
thin.
So
if
you
wonder
why
there's
no,
you
know
immediate
response
three
hours.
I
was
not
considered
top
priority
so
that
that
is
what
it
is.
H
Pr
a
similar
event,
a
robbery
in
our
neighborhood,
where
someone
took
garbage
out
at
about
10
o'clock
at
night
and
three
people
followed
her
back
in
the
car
and
had
guns
she
was
buying.
A
house
had
bought
a
house
in
the
neighborhood
for
her
daughter
and
was
cleaning
it
up
and
the
daughter
was
in
the
basement
cleaning,
and
this
was
about
10
o'clock
at
night,
and
the
three
gut
took
her
keys,
all
keys,
her
credit
card,
her
debit
card
and
demanded
the
pin
number.
H
H
The
culprits
were
gone,
but
they
there
was
a
car
chase
and
the
car
was
stopped
over
on
the
west
bank
and
at
least
one
culprit
was
arrested.
It
could
be
that
they,
they
weren't
from
this
neighborhood
and
came
in
one
car,
and
only
one
guy
was
in
the
stolen
car.
But
there
was
a
quick.
D
Had
something
to
say,
yeah,
my
neighborhood's
kind
of
mixed,
for,
I
think
the
homeowners
it's
kind
of
like
what
people
have
been
saying,
but
there
seems
to
be
plenty
of
police
power
to
harass
street
people.
Yet
so
it's
so
so
it's
kind
of
a
mixed
bag.
A
Okay,
thank
you
any
more
comments
before
we
move
on
to
the
about
the
broader
minneapolis
community.
Although
we
kind
of
just
went
around
and
talked
about
that,
and
what
would
you
change
about,
the
community
and
police
relations.
B
Hazel
got
it
yeah.
I
hate
myself.
I
agree
with
what
that
just
said.
I
mean
it
has
to
do
with
for
training
police
officers
and
how
to
work
to
communicate
like
that's
it.
I
think
a
lot
of
them-
and
I
don't
know
for
sure,
are
not
of
the
community,
so
they
don't
know
the
people
so
the
the
best
way
to
do
it.
B
I
mean,
and
the
training
has
to
start
from
the
top
down,
because
if
you
have
an
the
top
that
doesn't
care
about
community,
the
rest
of
the
office
is
gonna.
Follow
suit,
because
they're
gonna
follow
what's
the
the
function
of
the
part
of
the
of
the
department.
B
So
if
the
whole
department
has
to
change
the
attitude
about
community
relations,
so
they
have
to
I
mean
sorry:
the
police
is
just
like
the
what
they
used
to
call
the
people
on
the
plantation
that
overseers,
I
mean
so
that's
kind
of
where
the
history
of
it
is
coming
from.
So
I
think
they
still
have
that
kind
of
mindset
you
know,
overseeing
and
and
being
over
empowering
the
people
instead
of
working
with
the
people
so
yeah,
they
need
to
walk
to
be
become
part
of
activities.
F
B
Props
and
gamble's
by
the
new
commercials
that
they're,
showing
with
people
of
color
you
know
as
humans,
I
mean
so
they're,
not
so
the
guy
that's
driving
the
car,
they
had
turned
back.
B
You
know
he's
going
to
see
his
mama
or
something
and
so
they're
the
human
part
of
people
of
color,
and
I
think
that's
that
you
had
more
of
that
kind
of
stuff
on
the
tvs
also,
but
the
training
but
basic
training
of
the
whole
police
department
and
and
then
I
think,
use
of
like
they
say
the
adjunct
mental
health
counselors
along
with
the
police
department.
So
if
they
have
a
crisis
or
mental
health
crisis,
yet
a
council
is
going
to
go
out,
but
I
would
be
hesitant
to
send
the
council
out
by
themselves.
B
They
should
be
at
police
with
them
in
case
of,
but
but
the
counselor
would
be
leading
the
discussion
with
the
interacting
with
the
the
client.
That's
who
may
be
having
a
crisis
mental
crisis.
So
it
needs
to
be
it's
not,
and
but
it's
an
ant.
And
so
it's
not
one
side.
One
method
is
not
going
to
be
for
everything,
so
you
got
to
be
all
inclusive.
D
Yeah,
I
think
we
have
to
almost
really
start
over,
because
the
current
police
department
is
had
such
a
culture
of
white
supremacy
that
it's
almost
impossible
to
get
young
people
and
people
of
color
to
join
it.
C
D
Really
endangered,
I
mean
their
lives
end
up
being
endangered,
because
if,
if
the
rest
of
the
police
won't
won't
support
them
and
back
them
up,
so
it's
really
necessary
to
really
start
over
and
and
start
with
start
with
people
who
are
who
really
are
sincerely
concerned
about
public
safety,
not
just
in
bull,
you
know,
being
in
a
position
to
bully
others.
G
G
Well,
that's,
that's
not
realistic!
You
do
not
replace
an
entire
police
force.
What
happens
to
a
community
in
the
interim,
I
don't
care.
If
it's
six
weeks
or
six
months,
you
have
to
have
some
kind
of
police
force.
Would
you
rather
have
the
national
guard
come
in?
Would
you
rather
have
the
u.s
department
of
justice
send
in
the
army?
While
we
take
the
time
to
train
and
replace
an
entire
police
force,
you
have
to
be
realistic.
You
cannot.
D
I
would
I
wouldn't
say
that
either
one
of
those
alternatives
would
be
worse
than
what
we've
got
right
now.
F
F
I
would
hope
that
I
don't
I
I
do
think
it's
unrealistic
to
just
say
we're
going
to
get
rid
of
100
of
the
people,
but
I
do
think
there's
something
where
starting
from
scratch
every
officer
who
wants
to
continue
in
the
force
that
there's
some
educational
program
where
there
are
some
people
who
are
trained
in
counseling
and
working
with
diverse
communities,
say
like
from
now
on.
Every
officer
goes
through
this
training
and
it
can't
just
be
a
token
training.
It
needs
to
be
a
real
education
training
more.
F
I
know
you
don't
like
this
word
palette,
but
holistic,
like
a
very
thorough.
Not
just
you
know
how
to
arrest
people
not
just
how
to
hold
them,
but
you
know
how
to
de-escalate
how
to
work
together
with
a
safety
program,
and
if
there
was
something
transparent
where
you
could
see.
Oh
here's,
the
training
program.
Oh
here's.
F
What
everybody
goes
through,
oh
here,
are
the
you
know
the
kind
of
the
things
that
we
all
our
values
of
what
this
organization
is,
and
if
I'm
going
to
be
one
of
these
officers,
whether
it's
called
a
public
safety
officer
or
a
mental
health
officer
or
whatever
we
call
it
that
they
adhere
to
these
values
and
they
aspire
to
live
them
throughout.
You
know
their
work
and
as
part
of
the
community.
B
To
you,
I
agree
with
that.
The
training
has
to
be
that
not
the
office
is
not
just
looking
outside
of
themselves.
They
got
to
look
within
themselves
and
how
they're
bringing
their
implicit
biases
when
they
deal
with
people
who
don't
look
like
them,
so
that
training,
if
it
doesn't
incorporate
for
them
looking
at
themselves
and
getting
the
myths
and
the
stereotypes
out
of
their
vision
when
they
deal
with
people
who
don't
look
like
them,
then
nothing's
going
to
change.
This
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
stopped
doing
diversity.
Training.
B
Like
you
said
you
have
the
training,
but
they
go
back
into
square
one
when
they
leave
there's
a
check
off
they're
done
for
two
hours
and
they
wait
till
next
year
and
come
back
and
do
it
again.
But
if
there's
no
follow-up,
if
the
string
has
to
have
follow-up
in
three
months,
what
have
I?
What
have
I
done
to
improve
my
behavior
working
to
people
of
color
six
months,
nine
months,
twelve
months?
B
So
if
you
don't
see
any
improvement
in
that
officer,
something's
wrong
with
the
training
because
they
need
to
in
all
that
time,
they
should
have
some
kind
of
introspective
look
at
how
they're
dealing
with
the
community.
How
am
I
where's
my
role
in
causing
more
problems
and
this
and
stuff
escalating?
So
that's
my
my
soapbox
they've
got
to
look
at
themselves.
This
can't
be
an
outside
thing
when
they're
doing
the
training.
G
A
Thank
you,
paulette
beth
and
then
melinda.
A
F
I
am
hazel
made
me
think
when
that
also
you
know,
teachers
have
to
go
back
for
continuing
education
because
things
change
in
the
world,
so
the
idea
of
not
only
going
through
a
training,
whether
it's
an
empathy,
training
or
whatever,
we're
calling
this
training
at
the
beginning
of
their
career.
It
should
also
happen
as
an
ongoing
kind
of
touchstone
throughout
their
career,
and
maybe
even
have
you
know,
meetings
well,
I
mean
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
what
the
syllabus
should
be,
but
but
having
it
be
ongoing.
I
I
think
there's
a
some
other
overarching
issues
for
this
whole
conversation
and
one
is
the
union
and
how
it
operates
and
how
it
restricts.
What
the
police
chief
can
do,
how
information
about
officers
is
posted
or
not
posted
and
kept
secret,
so
that
and
discipline
is
often
overturned
by
that
the
board
or
whatever.
I
However,
those
cases
get
forwarded,
the
police
chief
decides
they
want
to
fire
up
an
officer
for
behavior
or
action,
and
then
it
gets
overturned
at
the
next
level,
and
so
I
think,
there's
some
other
issues
beyond
what
the
city
council
has
control
over
and
the
mayor
that
impact,
what
happens
and
how
officers
who
shouldn't
be
on
the
force
are
kept.
H
Was
just
going
to
answer
to
beth
that,
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
officers
have
to
do
contain
a
certain
number
of
continuing
education
hours
every
year
or
every
three
years,
just
like
teachers
and
actually
like
lawyers,
it's
called
post
credits
that
they
have
to
get
a
certain
number
of.
So
there
is
continuing
training.
It's
not
working
very
well
right.
G
Yeah
well,
by
the
same
token,
what
I
what
I
suggested
about
new
officers
going
into
another
jurisdiction,
we
should
also
receive
officers
from
other
jurisdictions
who
have
already
had
experience
and
were
working
in
a
collegial
kind
of
a
exchange
program.
Instead
of
it.
Just
being
you
know,
sending
our
I
mean
it
would
take
a
lot
of
effort
to
to
negotiate
that
I'm
sure
would
be
very
tough
to
do,
but
hey
might
as
well
think
outside
the
box.
A
Thank
you,
so
angelique
we've
been
diving
into
the
questions
and
right
now
we
are
talking
about
community
police
relations
and
I
sent
you
the
questions
so
feel
free
to
you
know.
If
you've
got
stuff
that
you
want
to
add
from
the
beginning,
we
can
definitely
take
it
to
office
of
violence
prevention.
So
if
you
want
to
any
add
anything
angelique,
if
not
I'll
move
on
to
the
next
question,
which
is
interesting.
A
All
right,
I
think,
she's
going
to
move
into
a
different
internet
access
area.
I
will
move
on
taking
a
moment
to
recognize
the
trial
of
derek
shavin.
Do
you
see
the
trial,
creating
routes
for
policy
change
or
basically
has
the
trial
if
at
all,
changed
your
perceptions
of
reimagining
public
safety.
A
And
we
can,
if
there's,
I
know
it's
it's
a
it's
a
unique
question.
I
I'm
going
to
kind
of
paraphrase
and
I'm
hoping
I'm
not
going
off
their
their
intention,
but
clearly
what
happened
with
the
murder
of
george
floyd
and
then
the
subsequent
arrest
and
and
trial
of
derrick
chavin
and
there's
other
officers
too
kind
of
brought
front
and
center
globally
the
issues
within
the
city
of
minneapolis
and
our
law
enforcement.
A
Do
you
think
that
the
trial
opened
up
and
the
fact
that
the
officer
was
prosecuted
created
routes
for
policy
change?
If
so,
do
you
you
know?
Do
you
have
an
example
of
what
policy
changes,
because
I
do
you
know?
A
I
don't
know
if
you've
heard
but
police
chief
aerodondo,
he
did,
along
with
the
mayor,
put
put
in
some
different
policies
such
as
not
the
officers
are
not
allowed
to
they're
not
supposed
to
stop
individuals
for
like
a
light
out
or
for
things
hanging
from
their
mirror,
etc.
A
And
then
how
was
the
trial?
If
at
all,
did
it
change
your
perception
of
reimagining
public
safety.
D
I
know
that
some
changes
at
state
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
a
problem
with
our
state
law
that
there's
some
really
bad
state
laws
that
prevent
us
from
disciplining
police
and
and
calling
you
know,
accountability
but
and
some
some
laws
were
introduced.
However,
none
of
them
passed
because
of
the
senate,
the
senate
stalled
them.
So,
but
at
least
some
of
these
issues
were
brought
to
light
so
anyway,.
G
New
new
officers,
who
are
on
duty
with
an
established
officer
like
derek
shovin,
are
now
empowered
to
be
able
to
make
the
judgment
that
this
is
not
appropriate.
You
have
to
stop
this.
G
We
weren't
trained
to
do
this
and
that's
a
change
because
of
the
high
the
hierarchy
of
the
chain
of
command
better
way
to
phrase.
It
would
not
have
allowed
a
lower
ranking
or
an
a
very
new
officer
to
say
I'm
not
participating
in
this,
I'm
stepping
back.
G
We
weren't
trained
to
do
this,
so
I
think
that,
may
I
think
that
at
least
that's
my
impression
that
that
that
has
been
instituted
as
a
change
and
if
so,
the
chain
of
command
needs
to
be
looked
at
and
strengthened,
so
that
when,
when
an
event
like
this
happens,
it's
not
going
to
be
impossible
for
a
lower
ranking
officer
to
say
stop.
This
is
not
how
we
were
trained.
F
B
A
Thank
you.
Anyone
else
before
I
move
on,
you
guys
are
doing
wonderful.
This
is
a
there's
a
lot
of
questions,
but
we
are
getting
close
to
the
end.
D
I
did
I
did
watch
a
training
about
what
paulette
was
talking
about
and
to
watch
the
body
language
of
some
of
the
officers
during
that
training.
You
know
very
well
that
they
aren't
going
to
be
they're
not
going
to
be
applying
what
what
they
were
taught
because
yeah
they're
not
absorbing
it
in
their
bodies.
Let's
put
it
that
way.
A
Thank
you
melinda
and
then
ellen.
I
I
think
it
raised
awareness
around
the
world
about
the
state
of
public
safety,
and
I
think
this
was
a
a
a
call
to
action
that
we
need
something
needs
to
change,
and
I
mean
it
was
coverage
in
new
york
times,
washington,
post,
a
lot
of
television,
news,
programming,
analyzing
and
people
weighing
in
on.
We
need
to
change
how
public
safety
is
is
conducted
in
minneapolis
and
minnesota
and
in
our
country
and
around
the
world,
and
so
I
think
that's
a
good
thing
now.
I
Whether
we
follow
through
on
any
of
that
is
another
thing
and,
as
was
pointed
out,
our
state
legislature
didn't
let
this
go
forward.
I
mean
there's
politics
of
all
of
this
involved,
as
well
as
strong
unions
and
weak
mayors
and
and
city
councils,
and
you
know
all
of
that
is
all
wrapped
up
in
this.
And
yet
I
I'm
hopeful
that
something
can
change
and
be
better,
and
I
appreciate
the
members
of
our
committee
or
people
of
color
who
are
speaking
up
for
their
communities
and
and
opening
my
eyes
to.
I
I
don't
have
the
same
experience
and
I
need
to
know
what
that
other
experience
is
to
have
a
have,
a
better
understanding
of
where
we
need
to
go
forward.
So
I
I
think
that
the
level
of
awareness
is
raised
and
I
think
that's
a
good
thing,
but
the
proof
is
in
the
pudding
as
if
we're.
If
we're
going
to
get
accomplish
anything
with
this
particular
measure
on
our
ballot.
E
I
think
I
think
that
the
the
facts
that
the
witnesses
were
heard
and
believed
was
very
rewarding.
I
I
felt
that
it
perhaps
showed
people
that
that
they
could
have
an
impact
that
they
could.
They
could
question
the
police's
narrative
and
they-
and
it
happened
at
least
in
this
trial.
It
doesn't
happen
in
all
of
them.
B
I
mean
I
agree
with
with
melinda,
but
I
think
that
with
parts
with
george
floyd
is
that
miss
frazier
videotaped
it
had
not
the
videotapes
in
there.
We
wouldn't
be
where
we
are
now,
so
she
did
the
world
of
favor
by
doing
that
and
it
was
traumatic
for
her
to
deal
with
evan,
I'm
glad
that
she's
getting
counseling
for
it,
but
without
that
we
wouldn't
be
where
we
are
now.
B
But
I
want
to
say
that
I
think
to
see
the
effect
of
all
of
this
worldwide
people
now
have
become
more
conscious
and
are
not
going
to
just
stand
by
and
let
things
continue
the
way
it
has
in
the
past.
So
I
think
you're
seeing
more
and
more
people
confronting
the
police
and
what
they're
doing
to
people
of
color
so
you're.
Seeing
more
and
more
of
that,
you
know
in
the
news
and
people
are
not
standing
by
oddly
letting
it
continue
to
happen.
B
So
that's
a
good
part
of
that
but
past
that
part
of
that
is,
if
you
still
got
to
go
through
a
lot
of
more
black
men
dying
in
the
hands
of
the
police.
But
until
and
whoever
was
saying
the
training,
if
they
don't
start
looking
within
things,
are
not
going
to
change,
and
so
everybody
know
I
mean
I
dare
say
you
stopped
any
caucasian
on
the
street.
Would
you
trade
places
with
a
black
person?
B
The
immediate
answer
is
going
to
be,
no
because
you
know
what's
happening
with
us,
and
so
that's
that's
the
bottom
line.
If
you
can
put
yourself
in
our
places,
then
you
will
help
us
to
get
to
where
we
need
to
get
to
go.
We
can't
do
it
by
ourselves.
You
guys
have
to
speak
up
as
well
as
us.
We've
been
saying
this
since
I've
been
born
before
my
time.
This
is
not
nothing
new.
This
hasn't
been
in
our
life
24
7,
since
we
got
here,
but
just
put
yourself
in
our
place.
B
B
I
don't
need
to
look
at
my
environment,
something
just
as
simple
as
that
and
when
you
take
your
next
drive
out
check
it
out
and
you
can
see
a
black
person
going
to
look
left
and
right
couple
times
before
they
cross
the
street
white
person
walking
straight
ahead,
no
turn
to
the
head
at
all.
That's
one!
That's
just
one
piece
of
what
we
deal
with
that's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you.
A
Miss
hazel
alain
did,
you
have
your
hand
up
still
or.
A
Anyone
else
before
I
move
on
this,
this
next
thing
is
going
to
be
I'll,
have
to
probably
repeat
it
a
couple
times
because
they're
asking
to
if
you
were
in
charge-
and
we
all
like
that
right,
but
if
we
were
in
charge,
if
you
were
in
charge,
how
would
you
rank
this
as
a
priority
and
I'll
list
them
off?
There's
four
of
them:
there's:
prevention
of
violence,
response
to
non-violent
crime
by
co-responder
or
community-centered
response
response
to
violent
crime
being
a
police
response,
police
reform,
I'll,
say
it
one
more
time.
A
Prevention
of
violence
is
one
response
to
non-violent
crimes
with
a
co-responder.
Community-Centered
response
is
two
response
to
violent
crime,
as
a
police
response
is
the
third
suggestion
or
police
reform,
and
which
do
you
think,
is
your
number
one
priority
and
who
do
you
feel
is
responsible
for
it
and
what
would
look?
What
would
that
look
like
to
you?
So
if
you
picked
police
reform,
what
would
that
look
like
to
you
and
who
should
address
police
reform
if
you,
if
that
would
be
your
top
priority?
As
an
example.
B
Mine
should
be
police
reform,
that'll
be
the
bubble
up,
because
this
is
where
concerns
are.
Who
would
be
responsible?
I
think,
be
the
chief
and
the
union
personnel.
I
mean
if
you
don't
start
there
because,
like
I
think,
there's
about
you
know
the
the
power
that
the
union
have
with
police
so
that
whole
umbrella
has
to
be
the
the
training
of
the
of
that
whole
section
there.
So
who's
or
someone
would
be
the
chief
in
the
union
to
make
those
changes
in
their
department.
F
First
of
all,
hazel
you
speak
so
eloquently
and,
and
your
words
are
always
appreciated,
and-
and
I
agree
with
you
and
I
I
think
that
if
police
reform
comes
first
done
properly,
then
prevention
of
violence,
response
to
non-violent
crime
response
to
violent
crime
falls
into
place.
Those
other
things
I
mean
prevention
of
violence
should
be
part
of
police
reform.
All
those
things
should
fall
into
place
if
police
reform
is
done
correctly,.
J
A
So
so
this
is
phase
two
of
the
office
of
violence,
prevention's
community
engagement
and
outreach
to
get
more
input,
which
is
why
the
questions
are
a
little
bit
of
a
deeper
dive
than
the
first
round.
When
we
have
these
conversations-
and
so
all
of
this
will
be
turned
over
to
the
office
of
violence
prevention,
there
are
other
community
meetings
happening
all
throughout
the
city
I
mentioned,
I
was
doing.
I
have
two
more
I'm
doing
one
with
the
advisory
committee
on
people
with
disabilities.
A
While
my
colleague
is
out
with
paternity
leave-
and
I
will
also
be
doing
a
community
group
with
lgbtq
plus
elders,
so
so
there
are
definitely
other
committees
and
communities
that
will
be
having
the
this
exact
conversations,
and
these
questions
were
developed
by
the
office
of
violence,
prevention.
J
J
What's,
what's
speaking
to
me,
the
most
and
is
on
my
heart
of
is
is
violence
prevention
because
of
all
of
the
things
that
I
see-
and
I
experience
in
my
daily
footsteps
coming
from
north
minneapolis
and
then
working
downtown,
minneapolis
and
basically
having
downtown,
be
my
extended
neighborhood
for
all
of
my
life
and
and
what's
going
on
in
north
minneapolis,
and
so
I
see
mental
health
issues
that
are
not
deep
mental
health
issues
that
are
not
being
treated.
J
You
have
all
kinds
of
people
walking
around
downtown
minneapolis
right
now
in
all
different
states
of
lucid-ness,
not
lucid
non-lucid.
Many
many
many
people
experiencing
homelessness
weekly
regularly.
I
see
fights
with
big
groups
of
teenagers.
The
last
time
I
broke
down
sobbing.
It
was
just
so
overwhelming,
because
I
was
already
watching
the
news.
It's
like
the
globe
is
on
fire.
J
We
had
the
afghanistan
thing,
you
know
the
the
height
of
that
going
on,
and
so
many
things
going
on
in
the
world,
and
so
it
breaks
my
heart
when
I'm
downtown-
and
I
see
mobs
of
teenagers
one
one
young
lady
was
completely
naked
from
the
waist
up.
She
chose
to
take
off
her
shirt
to
fight
another
girl
and
in
this
fight
was
going
on.
While
someone
else
was
videotaping
it,
and
then
you
have
teenagers
standing
around
in
young
people.
J
One
of
them
had
a
baby
on
their
hip,
so
you
have
the
toddler
being
traumatized
and
brought
into
this,
and
then
I
saw
with
so
first
it
was
that
fight
and
then
from
that
mob
of
people
it
was
a
boy
too
young
teenage
boys
fighting
and
one
of
the
boys
picked
the
other
one
up
and
body
slammed
him
in
the
middle
of
the
nicklin
mall
I'm
talking
about
this
is
right
on
seventh,
in
nicholas
in
the
heart
of
our
downtown,
he
picked
the
young
man,
a
body
slammed
him
on
the
concrete.
J
They
sit
on
the
shot,
spotters
and
roll
up
their
blunts
and
smoke,
and
I
just
feel
like
right
now
this
area
is
it
the
city's
way
of
kind
of
control?
You
know
like
in
san
francisco,
they've
relegated
a
lot
of
the
homeless
people
to
one
area,
so
at
least
they
kind
of
know
where
people
are
and
what
they're
up
to
I
don't
feel
I
don't
feel
safe
right
now.
J
I
don't
feel
like
I
can
go
anywhere
without
being
concerned
about
not
someone
doing
something
to
me,
but
some
random
act
of
violence
that's
going
to
occur
because
a
fight
breaks
out
when
somebody
starts
shooting
the
way
people
are
driving
is
just
it's
pedestrian
safety
is
is
terrible.
I
don't
even
wanna
just
for
the
record,
I'm
a
person
who
takes
the
bus,
so
I
use
public
transportation.
I
am
a
pedestrian,
I
do
a
lot
of
walking,
and
so
this
is
why
I
experience
these
things
all
the
time.
J
I
don't
have
the
privilege,
which
is
my
own
choice
of
being
in
a
vehicle,
and
I
can
drive
to
work
and
pull
up,
and
you
know
I'm
at
my
desk
and
then
you
know
I
drive
back
home.
So
I'm
very
much
aware
of
these
different
things
that
I
don't
want
to
normalize
either.
This
should
not
be
normal,
but
when
you
live
in
this
environment,
the
more
you're
exposed
to
it,
the
more
normalized
it
becomes,
and
I'm
not
okay
with
that.
So
my
response
would
be
the
prevention
of
violence.
J
J
So
I
feel
like
the
police
is
taking
a
break
like.
Oh
okay,
you
don't
like
the
way
we
do
our
job.
Let's
see
how
you
do
without
us
doing
our
job.
Let's
you!
Oh
you
want
a
community
police.
Let's
see,
let's
see
how
you
handle
that,
so
I
think
it's
not
one
or
the
other.
That's
not
like
a
politician
right
now.
It's
not
one
of
the
other.
It's
both
and
but
we
do
need
reform
within
our
definitely
need
reform,
but
we
also
need
healing
within
our
community.
J
I
feel-
or
it's
bubbled
all
to
the
surface
now
for
all
to
see
of
so
much
so
many
mental
health
issues
and
what
services
are
in
place
for
people
and
then
also
holding
each
other
accountable
within
our
communities,
and
how
do
we
govern
ourselves
within
our
communities
because
I
have
a
big
bone
to
pick
with
the
police,
but
I
also
go
to
back
to
my
community
and
they
get
mad
at
me.
J
I'm
not
always
popular
in
meetings,
because
I
say
okay,
I
get
what
you're
saying,
but
we
have
power
too,
and
what
are
we
gonna
do
with
the
power
that
we
have
like?
Why
are
our
kids
out
here
behaving
this
way?
So
there's
it's
it's
a
huge
problem,
a
huge
issue.
Then
we
can't
eat
the
elephant
all
at
one
time,
but
we
we
definitely.
J
We
have
to
be
more
accountable
in
how
we
govern
ourselves
within
our
communities
and
having
conversations
there
in
mental
health
support
and
winter
is
coming.
So
I
don't
know
what
the
city
plans
to
do
with
all
of
the
people
experiencing
homelessness.
They
don't
have
anywhere
to
use
the
restroom
they're
defecating,
you
know
all
around
downtown
minneapolis.
J
J
I
sat
at
the
bus
stop
and
I
could
smell
day-old
urine
wafting
out
of
the
alleyways
coming
up
out
of
the
corners
where
people
have
used
the
bathroom
in
the
city.
Hadn't,
you
know,
come
and
sprayed
and
cleaned.
You
know
you
could
see
the
streets
were
dirty
and
it
hadn't
rained
and
I'm
not
used
to
that
I'm
from
minneapolis,
and
so
I'm
like
am,
I
am
I
like
in
new
york
city
or
am
I
in
minneapolis
because
it
was
just
this
is
where
we're
at
this
is
where
we're
at.
So
what
do
so?
J
A
Thank
you
angelique
very
much,
janet.
D
Yeah,
I'm
with
the
violence,
prevention
and
a
lot
of
what
angelique
said.
My
bus
stop
is
at
12th
and
lake
and
it's
very
much
you
know
I
don't
think,
there's
a
fighting
there,
but
the
people
are
just
a
little
older,
but
you
know
so
many
homeless,
and
so
many
people
with
drug
addiction,
problems
and
the
police
are
there
a
lot
watching
them,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
two
of
them
haven't
been
murdered
lately
and
there's
been
shots
up
there
again,
the
last
couple
nights.
D
So
you
know
I
feel
so
sorry
for
people
who
are
not
getting
really
any
kind
of
services
that
they
so
desperately
need
and.
D
You
know
hurt
people
hurt
people,
so
I
think
a
whole
lot
of
our
our
crime
problems
are,
are
people
who
are
just
hurting
and
I'm
also
for
for
replacing
a
whole
lot
of
the
police
with
grandmothers,
because
I
think
it's
an
improvement
to
have
people
who
love
young
people
and-
and
you
know
I
mean
I've-
worked
with
a
lot
of
young
people
who
have
been
in
and
out
of
gangs-
and
you
know
all
they
really
need
is-
is
just
just
a
little
bit
of
help
on
finding
their
way
I
mean
abandoning
them
does
not
help
them,
make
better
choices.
D
I
mean
having
having
older
friends.
I
think
it's
very
helpful
for
young
people
to
make
better
choices.
I'm
I'm
I'm
always
preaching
my
my
intergenerational
ideas,
but
yeah.
A
Thank
you,
janet
beth,.
F
I
love
that
intergenerational
idea,
janet,
and
I
mean
I
often
think
about
when,
when
people
have
babies,
they
are
just
left
to
leave
that
hospital
and
you
cannot
get
a
driver's
license
without
having
to
go
to
driver's
education
and
you're,
given
a
pamphlet
to
read,
and
you
are
given
someone
that
teaches
you
how
to
drive
somewhat,
but
you
have
a
baby
and
you're
just
on
your
own.
F
There
is
no,
unless
you've
enrolled
in
something,
so
that
idea
of
grandmother's
going
in
and
talking
to
people
or
making
some
kind
of
a
how-to
parent,
and
here
are
resources
if
you
need
help,
because
all
these
things
go
together.
All
these
you
know
mental
health,
and
none
of
these
things
are.
Oh,
I'm
just
interested
in
education,
I'm
just
interested
in
in
violence.
Prevention
like
these
all
go
together,
it's
all
being
part
of
a
community,
so
so
back
to
what
annoys
paulette
with
that
word
holistic,
I
do
still
see
it.
F
I
do
think
that
I'm
thinking
of
it
right
now,
just
because,
if
all
these
things
could
help
in
the
community
from
an
earlier
age,
maybe
we
could
prevent
some
of
these
worsening.
You
know
horror
stories
like
angelique
mentioned,
and
I
know
you're,
not
the
only
one
angelique
who's
been
talking
about
what's
happening,
downtown
my
husband's
at
teaches
at
st
thomas
I
mean
the
changes
of
what's
been
going
on
downtown
in
nicholas
mall,
it's
it's
and
we
just
got
back
from
new
york.
It's
better.
J
I
was
just
gonna
say
we
have
to
ask:
how
did
we
get
here,
because
I've
never
seen
anything
like
what
I'm
seeing
right
now,
never
and
that's
coming
through,
you
know:
murderopolis
the
crack
epidemic.
You've
always
had
youth
who
fight
you've
had
gang
violence.
Things
like
that,
but
I've
never
seen
what
I'm
seeing
right
now
and
it
the
mental
illness
and
then
also
the
drug
addiction.
J
You
know,
and
I've
never
felt
unsafe
before
the
way
that
I
do
now
and
again,
I
don't
think
anything.
Anybody
will
do
anything
to
me.
Specifically
it's
the
randomness.
It
could
be
a
beautiful
sunny
day
and
everything's
flowing
the
birds,
chirping
and
the
water
is
flowing
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
something
just
totally
random,
will
break
out.
People
have
nowhere
to
go
to
be
so
they're
standing
around.
You
know
entertaining
themselves
the
best
way,
the
best
way
that
they
can.
J
J
How
did
how
did
we
get
here
is
it
working
is
what
we're
doing
working
that's
my
question
for
the
city
of
minneapolis.
If
anybody
ever
watches
this
in
the
state
of
minnesota,
how
did
we
get
here
and
how
do
we
get
out
of
it?
How
do
we
work
our
way
through
this
and
I
don't
feel
safe
for
seniors?
If
I
was
a
senior
I
would
or
if
I
my
grandmother,
I
would
not
want
my
grandmother
on
a
city
bus.
J
I
would
not
want
my
grandmother
walking
down
the
nicklet
mall
for
the
simple
fact
of
maybe
no
one
says
a
word
to
her
or
him
my
grandparents.
Maybe
no
one
would
bother
them,
but
nobody
wants
to
visually
take
that
in
every
day
you
know
to
be
experiencing
like
I
know
it's
not
comfortable,
it's
not
comfortable
to
have
the
police
presence.
You
know
like
and
it's
a
it's
a
presence,
but
then
it
doesn't
seem
effective
because
you
still
see
all
of
this
stuff
going
on.
J
The
first
time
I
heard
gunshots
I
jumped
off
of
my
bed
and
I
hit
the
floor
because
I
had
never
heard
gunshots
before
and
I
said,
is
this
firecrackers?
You
know
this
was
probably
about
like
seven
years
ago
now.
Sometimes
if
I'm
tired
enough,
I
just
turn
over
in
my
bed
and
go
back
to
sleep
and
that's
not.
J
J
J
B
There
are
no
easy
answers
for
that,
because
it's
multifactorial,
I
mean
it's
all.
Coming
together,
I
mean
my
past
life
as
a
public
health
nurse.
I've
worked
with
teens,
so
you
have
about
four
generations,
especially
people
of
color,
a
team
mom
to
get
him
on
get
iman.
So
you
got
about
four
generations
who
have
lost
adult
leadership.
B
So
that's
one
big
major,
fragile
problem
in
the
leak
that
you're,
seeing
so
the
kids
that's
out
there
on
nicolette
mall,
their
moms
and
dad.
I
may
be
stereotyping,
probably
14,
15
years,
older
than
them
and
they're
somewhere
getting
their
own
groove
on
the
great-grandparents,
adding
15
years
to
that
maybe
48
50
years
old.
These
are
great-grandparents,
so
you're
looking
at
a
whole
slew.
I
call
it
arrested
adults,
I
mean
arrested
adolescents
from
about
52
on
down
that
you,
but
that
would
be
a
little
bit
in
our
community.
B
B
So
people
don't
see
it
as
any
problem,
whereas
we
do,
and
so
that's
the
other
change
that
mindset,
then
you
have
the
easy
access
of
guns
that
get
better
that
are
in
the
communities
they
don't
want.
The
nra
got
a
big
chunk
on
that
and
won't
don't
want
to
stop
that
so
intensity.
So
you
got
a
whole
lot
of
steps
that
we
got
to
do.
B
It
seemed
insurmountable,
but,
like
you
said
earlier,
we
got
to
take
this
elephant
one
bite
at
a
time,
but
if
you
start
pulling
in
all
these
factors
that
has
gotten
us
to
where
we
are
because
we
have
incrementally
accepted
it
as
part
of
the
normal
state
in
our
in
our
environment.
Now
we
are
at
the
top
of
the
volcano
when
stuff
is
all
bubbling
out
and
over
so.
B
B
Yeah,
and
so
all
the
stuff
is
bubbling
up,
has
been
bubbling
up
and
now
we
are
at
the
top
and
it's
coming
out
and
over
us.
So
there's
no
one
solution.
This
is
a
whole
community.
You
have
to
get
together
solutions
and
it's
not
politics.
It's
not
bipartisan.
It's
everybody
got
to
get
together
and
say
you
know
we
got
to
get
back
to
the
basics
and
recognize
what's
normally,
what's
not
normal
and
don't
don't
and
to
stop
giving
us
that
it's
okay
to
do
this.
When
you
know
it's,
not
that's.
Actually
it
hit.
B
The
blunt
I
mean,
and
so,
like
you
said
like
for
nine
downtown
years
ago,
when
he
had
that
class,
the
christina
that
they
brought
us
around
when
we
brought
to
the
winner
brought
us
to
3-1-1,
but
he
had
the
cameras
all
around
the
city,
so
they
see
what's
happening,
downtown
minneapolis,
so
they
choose
not
to
get
into
where
you're
saying
so
they
got.
B
I
said
big
brothers,
if
you
ever
read
1984
big
brother
is
here
they
got
cameras
all
over
the
place,
seeing
what's
going
on,
but
again
they
have
to
and
it's
a
big
chunk
and
I
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
start
it,
but
it
got
to
get
started,
but
it's
a
big
chunk
that
has
to
start
the
process,
not
just
keep,
let
it
keep
bubbling
up
and
keep
going
otherwise
you're
going
to
have
more
riots
and
races
and
mental
health
issues,
because
people
don't
know
how
to
deal
with
people
don't
have
the
coping
skills
they
don't
have.
B
The
insulation
of
the
community,
like
I
have
when
I
was
coming
up
to
help
you.
I
can
call
somebody
I
have
auntie,
I
mean,
may
not
be
a
biological
auntie,
but
in
our
community,
if
I
was
coming
up
and
the
elders
gonna
be
auntie
or
your
cousin,
you
know
your
uncle,
it
don't
happen
biological,
but
I
know
I'm
safe
with
this
person,
because
they're
gonna
take
care
of
me.
We
can't
trust
that
this
thing.
I
can't
trust,
I'm
not
that
good.
B
B
G
You
you
asked
the
question
about
how
how
did
we
get
here?
I
think
you
have
to
recognize
the
schools
emptied
out
last
year
because
of
the
pandemic.
They
just
emptied
out.
You
cannot
look
at
the
situation
that
we're
in
today
without
recognizing
we
have
just
gone
through
a
year
and
a
half
of
a
major
worldwide
pandemic
and
and
the
end
is
not
in
sight,
but
that's
one
factor
the
school's
emptied
out.
G
Maybe
one
of
the
answers
is,
I
don't
even
know
if
the
police
force
has
truancy
officers
anymore.
They
probably
don't
that's
probably
gone
out
of
style,
but
maybe
there
would
be
another
way
of
phrasing
it,
but
I
mean
I
think
public
safety
is
not
just
shouldn't
just
be
focused
around
police.
G
I
mean
public
safety
is
like
I'm
not
safe,
walking
on
the
street.
We
don't
even
have
the
best.
You
know
our
pedestrian
safety
is
appalling.
People
are
are
being
killed
right
in
front
right
in
front
of
the
the
hilton
hotel
and
the
turnaround
drive.
Two
people
were
killed
by
a
runaway
vehicle.
That
is
public,
that
is
public
safety.
Of
course
the
vehicle
was
stolen,
but
anyway
I,
I
hope,
truancy
officers
and
get
the
schools
back
and
if
they
have
to
be
masked
let
them
be
masked
but
get
them
back
in
school.
J
I
mean
I
could
tell
just
story
after
story
after
story,
because
I'm
really
just
a
part
of
it,
of
everything
that
I
see,
and
I
agree
that
pedestrian
safety
is
also
should
be
very
important
over
north.
Some
of
us,
you
know
like
off
of
the
freeway
different
intersections.
You
see
bits
of
cars
shattered
all
the
time,
because
someone
has
crashed
into
a
corner
the
speeding.
It's
just
everyone
is
just
I
don't
know.
J
What's
going
on,
or
I
kind
of
do
know
what
started
it
but
I'll
be
getting
into
political
stuff
for
real,
then,
but
I
feel
like
everyone's
just
doing
what
they
want
to
do
and
because
our
leadership
in
people
not
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people,
not
respecting
the
police
and
feeling
even
empowered
now
to
whatever
control
the
police
did
have
like
a
lot
of
people
are
now
like
you,
don't
have
any
control
over
me.
I
can
do
and
say
whatever.
J
I
want
to
do
people
are
angry
and
they
don't
respect
the
they
don't
respect
the
police.
They
cuss
the
police
out
from
one
end
of
the
nicklet
mall
to
the
next,
and
so
that's
part
of
the
issue
too,
is
building
good
relations
again
back
with
officers.
Peace
officers
in
the
community,
because
they're
not
respected
they're,
not
respected,
at
least
from
where
I
see,
and
I
get
part
of
the
I
get
some
reasons
why?
J
A
Beth
quickly
and
then
I
did
not
have
us
walk
through
accepting
the
minutes,
which
is
I
mean.
This
is
a
great
conversation
I,
and-
and
we
don't
have
to
do-
that,
I
don't
want
to
interrupt
momentum
to
do
wishy-washy
administration
stuff.
We
can
certainly
accept
minutes
the
next
meeting.
We
can
accept
both
minutes
today's
and
next,
but
I
did.
I
did
want
to
put
that
out
there
if
we
wanted
to
tie
up
that
business
too,.
F
F
There
have
been
fewer
support
from
my
kids
and
you
know
luckily
we're
able
to
be
very
hands-on
with
our
kids,
but
we
know
not
every
family
has
that
privilege
and
it's
a
it's
all
community,
and
so
again
it's.
I
really
think
if
there
were
better
counselors
and
but
more
money
going
into
education
than
then
we
could
try
and
help
these
kids
so
that
by
the
time
they
were
teens,
maybe
they
were
going
to
programs
at
boys
and
girls
club.
A
G
Yeah,
I
think
there
should
have
been
there
should
have
been
a
fifth
point
under
because
every
one
of
those-
and
I
think
prevention
of
violence
is
probably
the
most
important
thing.
But
it's
not
it's
not
a
broad
enough
imagination
of
public
safety.
I
mean
public
safety
as
such.
G
It's
your
own
sense
of
well-being
and-
and
you
know,
if
you
want
to
break
it
down
into
each
one
of
those
very
specific
areas.
Fine,
but
I
would
say
public
safety
is
our
social
fabric.
G
G
B
I
just
want
to
ask
with
this
information
I
think
angelica
somebody
asked
earlier:
what
are
they
going
to
do
with
this
information,
because
I
feel,
like
I've
been
in
a
focus
group
and
I'm
sick
of
focusing
because
you're
there
and
you
never
get
the
results
of
what
you're
doing
you
ask
the
time
the
gimmick
suggestions,
recommendations
whatever
and
it
never
gets
back
to
you.
So
how
do
you
plan
on
using
this.
A
I
will
I
feel
like
I
should
know
this,
and-
and
I
do
but
I
don't
want
to
misspeak,
because
this
is
clearly.
A
J
You
know,
residents
to
the
city
of
of
minneapolis,
and
my
question
is
it
sounds
my
statement
is,
it
sounds
really
great
to
say
we
want
to
add
density,
but
is
the
city
of
minneapolis
prepared
to
manage
the
density,
because
we
have
these
very
ambitious
goals
for
occupying
our
city,
but
what
about
managing
our
city,
I'm
sitting
out
here,
I'm
sitting
looking
out
the
window
right
now
at
trash
that
people
are
just
it's
just
ridiculous
to
me.
What's
going
on
right
now,
are
we
prepared
to
manage
this
density
that
we're?
Where
are
people
living?
J
Where
are
they
staying
here
in
the
city
of
minneapolis?
You
want
to
increase
the
strength
you're
not
going
to
attract
taxpayers.
Taxpayers,
don't
want
to
walk
past
trash
and
people
sleeping
in
the
streets
and
to
be
people
loitering
outside
of
the
businesses
that
they
go
into
the
like.
If
you're
a
tourist-
and
you
come
to
minneapolis,
you
don't
want
to
walk
out
of
your
hotel
into
a
brawl
and
all
and
all
of
these
things-
and
we
have
to
do
business
here
too,
or
we
won't
be
this
city
that
we
are.
J
C
We
need
to
look
overall
at
policing
at
the
various
levels
we're
looking
only
at
mdd,
but
we
have
the
sheriff's
office
at
the
county
level
and
we
have
state
troopers
at
the
statewide
level,
and
then
you
know
national
guard
and
the
military
and
how
we
can
take
an
integrated
look
at
policing
period
and
security
and
safety
has
been
the
number
one
issue
facing
housing
authorities
and
residents
for
decades
and
mpha.
C
I
C
D
C
A
Thank
you
flo.
Thank
you
for
that.
It's
2
39.
I
just
want
to
be
conscience.
Conscientious
of
everybody's
time
did
we
want
to
do
a
motion
for
the
minutes
and
then
I
can
give
I
just
sent
out
an
email
that
gave
the
context
of
what
this
conversation
like
the
frame
up.
A
That
was
suggested
and
there's
also
a
link
in
that
email
to
access
the
compilation
of
the
first
phase
of
conversations
so
feel
free
to
click
that
link
to
see
what's
how
they
framed
all
the
engagement
the
first
time
and
basically
so.
This
is
a
year-long
process.
As
of
now
that's
the
timeline,
and
it
is
to
continue
to
give
recommendations
to
city
leadership
on
on
public
safety.
You
know
policy
and
procedure,
etc.
A
Absolutely
yep
yep.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
engagement,
so
I
I
don't
want
to
misspeak
at
how
many
phases
but
and
of
course,
the
elections
going
to
influence
all
of
this
too
right.
So.
F
Also
think
it
could
be
worthwhile
if
we
asked
for
them
to
kind
of
expedite
the
process
given
what's
been
going
on
in
the
city
instead
of
I
mean
I
know
all
these,
you
know
wanting
to
get
everyone's
advice
and
wanting
to
get
everyone's
input
and
thinking
about
it
and
talking
about
it
and
having
to
get
all
the
stakeholders
involved
and
getting
stakeholders
involved
is
a
good
thing,
but
it
also
can
be.
You
know,
kind
of
the
enemy
of
progress
where
like.
If
you
wait
too
long,
you
know
all
these
things
are
still
happening.
F
B
Just
wanted
to
ask:
are
they
going
to
do
a
compilation
of
what
they're
getting
from
all
these
various
groups?
Yes,
I
mean,
but
I
don't
want
to
just
hear
what
they're
recommending
what
they're
going
to
do.
I
want
to
know
what
are
they
pulling
from
the
various
groups
but
utilizing
information
that
they're
getting
from
the
community?
B
J
B
A
J
We
need
more
public
restrooms,
there
are
no
public,
there
are
no
public
restrooms
in
downtown
minneapolis
and
trash
cans
and
trash
cans.
You
walk
around
the
baby,
that's
the
thing.
We
need
restroom
attendance,
that's
it
yeah
yeah,
because
they
tran
they
get
trashed,
that's
why
they
locked
them
all
up,
but
that
that
alone
is
a
public
health
safety
issue,
because
there's
no,
there
aren't
any
restrooms
and
the
trash
is
getting
out
of
ridiculous
right.
That
was
20.
G
You
know
paris
has
always
had
public
facilities
right
out
in
the
open.
You
don't
go
so
it's
safe,
mostly
for
men,
but
no
really
sorry.
G
G
It's
all
I'm
saying
I
have
to
make
a
decision
whether
or
not
I
really
want
to
stay
in
minneapolis.
It's
getting
that
bad
for
me,
yeah.
J
That's
fair,
no,
no
comfortable
place
to
go
office
of
violence
prevention,
I'm
looking
dead
into
the
camera.
If
you
see
this,
there's
no
foot,
there's!
No!
You
know
what
the
safest
neighborhood
right
now
is.
The
north
loop.
Amazingly
there's
no
issues
down
in
the
north
loop.
You
can
go
down
there
and
have
coffee
and
enjoy
the
beauty
of
the
neighborhood.
J
J
A
G
C
J
H
A
Yeah,
I'm
definitely
not
very
good
at
sharing
this
meeting,
because
I
forgot
all
that
stuff
and
the
agenda
we
just
launched
into
it.
Although
we
didn't
officially
like
accept
the
agenda,
I
suppose
we
could,
but
I
said
if
anybody
has
an
issue
or
a
challenge
to
please
speak
up
and
we'll
just
take
that
as
everybody
was
cool
with
the
agenda,
and
I
don't
have
to
I
mean
for
our
minutes-
that's
great,
but
when
we
post
what's
called
a
marked
agenda
for
public
view,
it
doesn't
state
like
who
made
the
motion
and
who
seconded.
J
A
For
for
our
next
month's
agenda,
we
can
bring
up
the
senior
linkage
line.
I
will
reach
out
to
them
to
see
what
they
do
with
the
conversation
where
they
took
the
conversation.
A
I
am
filling
in
for
staff
for
the
committee
on
people
with
disabilities,
and
so
I
wanted
to
talk
with
them
to
see
if
you
know
how
they
felt
about
maybe
having
a
joint
meeting
to
have
a
conversation
at
some
point.
So.
J
J
Basically
was
well,
I'm
sorry
no
go
ahead
because
one
do
a
focus.
Group:
okay,
thanks
for
another
focus
group
and
to
rally
with
the
was
it
the
feds
or
the
federal
monies.
You
know
write
a.
C
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
will
definitely
circle
back
with
them
and
I
will
be
sending
out
a
link
to
a
survey.
We're
collecting
data
for
the
next
iteration
of
the
action
plan.
B
A
Focus
is
going
to
be
specifically
on
our
communities
of
color
and
other
historically
underrepresented
communities
such
as
lgbtqai
plus
elders,
so
I'll
send
that
out,
and
there
was
one
other
thing
we
I
wanted
to.
Oh
our
bylaws,
don't
even
get
me
started
on
those,
so
I'm
going
to
send
out
a
draft.
Some
of
the
recommend
are
the
the
things
that
people
brought
to
me.
I'm
gonna
make
some
tweaks
and
adjustments
and
I'll
send
it
out
for
us
just
to
look
over.
A
G
Are
we
going
to?
I
mean
I
probably
only
have
two
more
meetings
and
then
I'm
done
after
the
election,
but
are
you
I
sent
you
some
stuff
about
pedestrian
safety
and
what
how
st
paul
is
so
far
ahead
of
minneapolis
in
terms
of.
G
I
mean
that's
good
minnesota,
doing
a
study
and
and
bringing
pedestrian
safety
up
to,
I
don't
know,
are
you
gonna?
Are
we
gonna
have
that
on
the
agenda
or
not?
We.
A
Can
we
sure,
can
we
have
tons
and
tons
and
tons
of
studies
like
we
do
walking
studies,
safety,
studies,
all
kinds
of
stuff?
A
B
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
send
that
resource
that
I
sent
to
you,
but
that
I
got
from
that
public
health
nurse.
B
I
sent
you
yup
that
resource,
if
you
feel
you
guys
can
get
that
happy,
but
I'm
also
going
to
talk
with
dorothea
harris.
B
A
B
J
Day,
will
you
please,
when
you
do
have
resources,
will
you
send
them
to
me
or
send
it
to
all
of
us?
I
suppose
like
hey,
miss
hazel
did
and
then
I
can
add
it
to
our
newsletter
yeah
for
sure
that
goes
out
to
all
our
oaks
or
older
adults,
yep,
absolutely
yeah.