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From YouTube: October 12, 2021 Arts Commission Executive Meeting
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A
Or
even
non-urgent
that
you
want
to
share
okay,
I
think
we
can
probably
work
through
this
agenda,
hopefully
pretty
efficiently.
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
super
complicated
here,
although
I'll
be
excited
to
hear
your
feedback,
so
tina
said
she
did
drop
the
agenda
in
the
chat.
Do
you
all
see
it?
I
do
not
see
it,
but
it
may
not
mean
anything
that
I
don't
see
it
does
anyone
else
see
it
in
the
chat.
A
A
It
is
numbered
that
translated
weird
in
the
google
document,
but
at
any
rate
it's
there
all
right.
Well,
let's
get
roll
one.
Are
you
recording?
Oh,
you
are
okay,
great,
all
right!
Well,
lana,
do
you
want
to
kick
us
off
with
the
poet
laureate
updates?
I
apologize.
I
couldn't
make
it
on
friday,
but-
and
I
didn't
even
think
to
speak
to
you
about
it
when
we
saw
each
other
on
saturday,
but
I'm
excited
to
hear
how
that
meeting
went.
C
Sure
thing
yeah
so
on
friday,
our
working
group
for
the
poet
laureate
project
met
with
council,
member
fletcher
and
council.
Vice
president
jenkins.
Really
the
goal
of
that
meeting
was
to
talk
about
a
timeline
for
next
steps,
so
where
we
stand
right
now,
is
that
we're
beginning
community
outreach?
So
the
document
that
we
shared
at
the
last
meeting
had
a
list
of
community
partners
and
organizations
that
we
wanted
to
begin
our
outreach
with.
C
C
Do
you
have
interest
in
joining
a
working
group
being
a
larger
part
of
the
process
or
being
on
an
email
list
for
updates
right,
so
that
gave
people
a
couple
of
different
ways
that
they
can
engage?
We've
heard
back
from
a
few
community
partners
got
some
enthusiasm
from
a
loft
literary
center.
So
far
we
heard
from
msp
826
that
we
reached
out
to-
and
I
didn't
do
any
of
the
facebook
or
meetup
outreach,
because
I'm
not
on
the
socials,
so
jack
was
going
to
be
helming.
C
C
These
are
a
lot
of
the
circulating
questions
right
a
little
bit
out
of
my
personal
wheelhouse,
so
that
will
be
things
that
we
develop
as
a
working
group
together,
but
that
will
be
the
next
stage
to
have
some
sort
of
press
release
that
this
is
something
that
we're
thinking
of,
but
the
general
feedback
and
temperature
from
the
meeting
was
that
we're
in
a
really
good
place.
You
know
both
council,
member,
fletcher
and
council.
C
Vice
president
jenkins
said
that
you
know
that
the
working
document
that
we
shared
was
better
than
they
had
expected
for
a
starting
point
and
that
it
can
only
go
better
from
there
when
we
have
more
community
involvement
so
that
that's
a
really
good
good
positive
and
I'm
just
super
excited
about
hearing
about
other
ideas
that
come
and
are
floated
at
our
table
and
where
it
can
kind
of
elevate
to,
but
I
think
it's
a
strong
place
to
start
to
have
a
poet
laureate
get
their
ground
and
bearings
for
a
year
or
so
before,
welcoming
in
a
mentorship
program
that
I
hope
will
be
really
exciting
for
youth
poet
laureate
as
well.
C
A
Yeah,
I
think
so
too.
The
other
thing
is,
I
just
you
know,
will
be
really
transparent
and
saying
that
I
imagine
well
hello,
that's
cute
a
little
cameo
there.
I
will
be
transparent,
just
saying
that
I'm
sure
that
they
are
maybe
a
little
anxious
for
that
to
happen
before
the
election.
I
don't
want
to
assume
things,
but-
and
that's
really
that's
coming
up
very
quickly,
so
we
might,
we
just
might
not
be
able
to
meet
that
expectation.
A
C
A
quick
clarification
that
it
would
probably
be
after
elections,
because
everyone
is
so
you
know
like.
We
did
talk
about
that
in
the
timeline
that
it
would
be.
You
know
probably
swiftly
on
the
heels
of
that,
but
before
mid-november,
so
you
know
you
don't
want
to
get
in
the
process
of
the
election
cycle.
A
B
Interest
is
going
to
be
trying
to
get
this
in
the
budget
right
right,
and
so
they
are
going
to
be
moving
money
around
in
november
and
december,
and
so
that's
their
big
interest.
I
don't
think
in
terms
of
the
election.
Anyone
cares
about
a
poet
laureate.
All
they
care
about
is
whether
or
not
we
should
have
cops.
B
Proactive
publicity
goes
to
john
lewis,
and
so
it
would
be
mac.
Doesn't
nobody
gets
to
do
their
own
press
release
right?
It's
the
city
of
minneapolis
press
release,
or
in
this
case
it
would
be
a
community
planning
and
economic
development
press
release.
B
So,
okay
yeah.
So
I
think,
and
the
announcement
would
be,
that
there's
going
to
be
a
poet
laureate.
C
Well,
one
note
to
add
is
that
when
we
meet
with
the
full
commission,
it
would
be
helpful
if
we
have
you
know
put
on
the
agenda
for
october.
Under
the
header
of
poet
laureate,
you
know
that
we
are
making
some
formal
recommendation.
Like
minneapolis
arts
commission
is
recommending
a
poet
laureate
for
the
city
of
minneapolis.
C
You
know
here's
an
outline
of
what
it
would
look
like.
So
if
there
is
anything
that's
in
the
public
domain,
if
you
will
like
when
we're
reaching
out
to
community
partners,
it
was
clarified
that
we're
not
going
to
see
like
a
header
on
the
city
website
right,
it's
going
to
be
something
like.
Perhaps
the
you
know,
minneapolis
creates,
like
the
arts
department,
has
a
listing
of
the
mac
initiative.
You
know
once
we
have
a
full
commission
vote
on
it,
so
I'm
thinking
more
that
that
would
be.
C
B
Yeah,
I'm
happy
to
set
it
up.
I
think
yeah,
it's
going
to
be
the
kind
of
thing
there's.
Also
this
weird
sensitivity
like
right.
Why
is
cped
putting
out
a
big
arts
push
when
they're
supposed
to
be
this
new
department,
but
but
the
new
department
isn't
really
happening
until
next
year
and
so
yeah?
I
think
we
should
just.
B
I
think
we
should
talk
to
the
person
in
city
communications
and
for
cpat
and
ask
him
what
he
thinks
and
he
might
want
to
go
back
to
his
other
colleagues
in
the
coordinator's
office,
so
it
might
take
a
little
while.
So
we
should
probably
do
it
soon.
Lana
yeah.
C
A
If
that's
the
case,
then
can
you
give
tina
whatever?
Is
the
latest
greatest
editing?
You
know
whatever
language
for
the
commissioners
to
review
just
so
they
have.
I
know
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
months
and
if
anyone
felt
like
they
didn't
know
what
this
was,
it
would
be
really
strange,
but
at
the
same
time
it
might
just
be
nice
to
just
show
like
here's,
the
working
material.
E
Yes
and
then
I
was
gonna,
ask
lana:
is
there
any
documents
or
anything
that
you
want
me
to
attach?
You
can
send
that
to
me
as
well.
A
B
B
B
A
My
question
was
that
we
are
going
to
ask
for
a
formal
adoption
or
for
a
motion
to
adopt
the
recommendation
to
move
forward
with
a
working
group
to
develop
a
poet
laureate
program
for
the
city
of
minneapolis.
So
we
want
to
vote
on
that
and
I'm
just
asking
you
what
is
the
simple
way
to
have
that
appear
on
the
agenda
under
the
poet
laureate
updates
just
adopt.
B
B
E
B
E
B
So
we
would
be
strategizing
about
that
like
we
would
meet
with
so
let's
say,
and
there
would
probably
be
further
conversation
right.
So
we
would
say
the
arts
commission
is
doing
this
with
jenkins
and
fletcher
and
they
they
want
to
get
a
little
publicity
out
about
the
fact
that
they
are
doing
this
and
and
then
we
would
brainstorm
what
that
publicity
can
look
like
right
and
then
we
and
then
like.
Let's
say
it's
a
press
release.
I
have
a
feeling:
it's
not
going
to
be
a
press
release,
they
hardly
ever
do
press
releases.
B
D
B
Yeah
all
right
thanks,
but
they'll
also
know
what
you
know.
They
have
a
communication
plan
about
what
items
they
talk
about
in
the
media.
What
week
they
will
want
to
pick
a
week
where
it
doesn't
conflict
with
anything
like
in
a
big
way
right:
okay,
so
but
they'll,
you
know,
they're
very
nice
people,
they'll
figure
it
out.
C
A
A
A
Yeah,
okay,
any
other
questions
or
comments
about
poet,
laureate.
Okay.
The
next
item
is
the
survey
questions.
I
guess
I
I
got
a
little
bit
of
feedback
from
mandy
who
I
think
she
was
kind
of
saying
like
we
should
use
surveymonkey
and
the
the
reason
why
I
opted
not
to
use
it
or
I'm
suggesting
that
we
don't
use.
That
is
just
because
they
wanted
to
charge
for
a
subscription,
and
I
just
was
like
we
don't.
A
I
don't
really
feel
like
paying
for
a
subscription
for
one
survey
and
I
don't
want
to
try
to
get
reimbursement
or
any
of
that
kind
of
stuff.
If
that's
okay,
to
be
kind
of
lazy,.
D
A
F
Yeah,
I
think
we
can
do
what
you
you're
suggesting
we
did
survey
monkey
through
lisa
and
she
has
her.
Her
company
has
an
account
and
she
was
very
gracious
for
the
access
and
engagement
group.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
you
know
I'm
good
with
just
filling
out
a
you
know
a
questionnaire
too,
but
just
just
think
about
that.
I
I
you'd
have
to
talk
to
lisa,
but
she
did
give
give
it
to
us.
A
I
guess
so:
I
just
dropped
all
these
questions
in
the
chat,
and
I
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
just
kind
of
you
know:
skim
over
them
really
quickly.
If
it's
okay
with
you
guys-
and
I
think
I
had
it
in
my
mind-
that
we
were
going
to
ask
people
to
respond
before
we
meet
and
then
I
could
aggregate
the
information
and
give
like
a
summary
when
we
meet
in
october-
and
I
don't
know
if
that
is
too
aspirational.
A
If
we
don't
kind
of
make
a
really
serious
effort
right
now
to
get
to
december
and
have
a
finalized
work
plan,
we
certainly
can
extend
finalizing
our
work
plan
into
january
if
we
feel
that
is
really
necessary
to
do
a
good
job
and
to
but
so
anyway,
that's
kind
of
the
method
to
my
madness
is
that
we
would
get
feedback
from
folks
who
would
say
like
here's,
the
stuff.
That's
engaged
me
the
most.
A
Here's
where
I
see
the
most
opportunity,
like
everybody
could
kind
of,
and
I
don't
think
anyone
needs
to
like
give
really
exhaustive
answers,
but
it
just
might
help
us
as
sort
of
being
in
a
leadership
role
and
and
on
our
alts
to
be
able
to
have
the
feedback
help
to
shape
what
our
draft
work
plans
are
going
to
be.
That's
that's
the
way,
I'm
thinking
so
question
number
one
is
a:
can
I
just
send
this
out
via
email
and
ask
for
people
to
give
me
their
best
responses.
A
A
You
know,
and
I
know
that
tina
will
be
sending
the
agenda
likely
on
friday.
So
that's
you
don't
have
to.
They
don't
have
to
come
at
the
exact
same
time,
even
though
that
I
hope
that's
not
too
jostling
to
anyone
to
receive
two
mac
emails
in
one
week,
but
this
survey
will
be
just
its
own
separate
and
people
can
reply
to
just
me
and
I'll
be
real
clear
about
those
instructions
that
sound
okay.
A
Okay.
Now,
let's
look
at
the
questions
and
just
make
sure
that
I,
and
that
I
might
so
mary-
has
this
kind
of
famous
quote
that
I
love,
but
she
loves
to
edit
me
because
I
tend
to
be
super
wordy
and
flowery
and
like
go
on
and
on
and
stuff.
So
I
don't
know
I
was
trying
to
be
direct
and
concise
and
like
hit
hit
all
the
areas
that
we
really
are
interested
in.
A
A
E
You
have
your
hand
up
mate
and
I'm
sorry.
I
thought
I
had
gotten
back
to
you
with
this
comment.
I've
been
a
little
preoccupied
in
last
couple
weeks,
so
I
didn't.
I
didn't,
send
an
email
back
to
you,
but
is
that
supposed
to
be
priorities
based
on
like
the
stated
mission
and
objectives
of
the
new
department?
Yeah?
Okay,
so
I
would
be
clear
about
that
in
the
question
you
know
specifically
look
and-
and
it
wouldn't
hurt
to
get
those
again-
I
I
don't
have
the
ordinance
at
the
hand.
E
So
I
would
ask
the
question:
I
would
just
make
it
clear
that
that's
what
we're
supposed
to
respond
to,
and
I
wouldn't
yeah
I'd
say
the
top
two
or
something
I
mean
there-
aren't
that
many
of
them
and
if
you
get
three
and
we're
all
over
the
board,
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
get
to
some
consensus.
So
that's
like
one
or
two.
A
Lana,
do
you
feel
like
that,
makes
sense
like
to
to
link
in
the
question
I
think
to
just
look
back
at
the
reference
material
and
then
think
about
like
what
do
you
think
the
top
two
priorities
for
the
department
are
do?
A
Do
you
like
the
idea
of
a
general
response
to
that,
or
do
you
feel
like
it
would
be
more
efficient
if
we
asked
in
relationship
to
the
mac,
because
I
do
ask
that
in
question
number
two,
but
I
I
was
kind
of
interested
in
just
thinking
about
like
when
you
think
about
a
department
of
art
and
cultural
affairs.
A
What
do
you
feel
you
know
just
like,
generally
speaking,
based
on
everything
that
you
know
like
what,
in
your
opinion,
should
be
of
the
greatest
priority?
I
think
I
feel,
like
I
kind
of
know
what
a
lot
of
people
will
likely
say,
but
I
kind
of
I
just
thought
it
might
be
worth
doing
a
quick
temperature
check
with
the
commissioners
and
seeing
like
what
is
the
most
important.
What
should
be
priority
number
one
for
this.
C
I
like
it
because
I
feel
that
it,
it
means
math,
has
to
consider
how
we
fit
into
the
ordinance
and,
what's
already
been
stated,
so
it
seems
to
me
like
question.
One
is:
let's
look
at
the
whole
ordinance
and
which
ones
do
you
think
are
like
some
of
the
priorities
for
tackling
question
two
seems
a
little
bit
more
like.
Where
is
mac's
role
in
assisting
and
facilitating
those,
because
it
might
not
be
the
top
priority.
There
might
not
be
a
lot
of
overlap
with
what
the
top
priorities
of
the
department
are
to
create
here.
C
F
A
E
The
so
what
what
do
you?
What
do
you
think
are
the
kinds
of
answers
you're
going
to
get
to
number
two,
I
that's
what
you
feel
position
the
mac
best
in
the
development
of
the
new
department.
Do
you
feel
it'll
be
like
you
know,
a
better
relationship
with
council
members?
E
A
Or
to
your
point,
it
might
be
a
little
too
complex
for
the
general
commission
right
because
that's
almost
like
a
strategy
question,
like
my
feeling
is
like,
like
lana's,
been
doing
a
lot
of
strategy
for
on
our
behalf
right,
like
one-on-ones,
with
golgoon
and
danielle,
and
maybe
the
interim
or
whatever.
So
I
feel
like
lana's
been
kind
of
running
strategy
on
this
so
yeah.
Maybe
this
question
really
should
be:
how
might
the
mac
contribute
to
the
development
of
the
new
department
like
what
are
some?
I
don't
know
help
me
out
here.
I
guess.
E
That
could
be,
I
was
thinking
also
I
mean
if
we
are
having
a
retreat.
You
know
that
to
me
is
a
question.
That's
really
best
answered
in
conversation,
in
my
opinion,
with
other
people
once
we,
if
we
come
to
some
consensus,
what
we
think
are
the
top
two
or
three
priorities
in
the
department
for
our
work.
Then
then
it's
the
next
conversation
about
and
how
do
we?
E
How
do
we
do
that
work
best,
but
I,
I
think
it's
more
fruitful
if
we've
got
a
common
understanding
or
shared
agreement
on
what
a
couple
of
priorities
are
and
then
to
strategize,
so
to
me
that
would
yeah
that
would
be
the
next.
That
would
be
the
question
for
the
retreat
like
okay.
This
is
what
everyone
felt.
This
is
where
we
are.
How
do
we
work
now
to
to
do
that.
A
A
Do
we
want
to
ask
anything
else
about
the
department
or
probably
that
first
question
is
the
is
the
most
important
kind
of
overarching
question:
okay,
okay,
the
third
question
is:
what
do
you
think
our
greatest
accomplishments
were
this
pla
were
this
past
year
and
what
would
you
suggest
we
include
if
we
created
a
year
in
review
report,
I
kind
of
keep
hinting
at
the
fact
that
we
may
do
this.
A
Maybe
we
don't,
but
I
I
in
my
mind
what
I'm
imagining
is
that
when
we
present
our
2022
work
plan,
it
is
accompanied
by
a
2021
year
in
review,
so
that
it's
kind
of
like
this
at
a
glance
comprehensive
like
here's,
what
we're
going
to
do
in
2022
and
here's
what
we
did
in
2021,
that's
worth
noting,
so
I
thought
maybe
combining
those
two
so
that
it
kind
of
is
framed
in
the
way
that
I
am
imagining
utilizing.
The
information
go
ahead,
jeff.
F
A
So
the
work
plan
gets
ideally,
it
doesn't
always
happen.
100
blueprints,
but
the
work
plan
is
something
that
we
discuss
with
elected
and
get
feedback
and
then
bring
it
back
and
say
you
know
in
an
effort
for
them
to
understand
the
mac
better
and
to
understand
our
work
groups
better,
because
they're
fairly
new
they're,
just
only
two
years
old.
It's
like
this
is
a
kind
of
a
an
exercise
in
socializing
your
role,
I
don't
intend
to
do
so.
A
A
I
agree
so
is
number
three
okay
to
keep
kind
of
those
sandwiched
together.
What
were
our
greatest
accomplishments
and
what
would
you
include
in
a
year
in
review
because
they
may
not
be
the
same
exact
answers,
but
they
kind
of
go
together.
Is
that
too
complicated?
Or
let
me
just
overthink
that
for
a
while.
E
A
Just
simplify
it
and
I
can
explain
when
I
give
the
summary
I'll
just
strike
the
year
and
review
a
piece
because
it
does
it'll
make
people
be
like
what
is
that
so
I'll
just
take
that
out?
What
do
you
think
our
greatest
accomplishments
were
this
past
year
number
four,
what
has
engaged
you
the
most
in
regard
to
your
role
on
the
mac?
A
I'm
really
interested
in
hearing
about
that,
because
I
do
think
that
we're
gonna
get
some
really
cool
feedback
and
people
clearly
are
have
very
different
self-interest
and
have
just
have
had
some
people
have
served
on
panels.
Some
people
have
worked
on
policies,
some
people,
you
know
it's
just
been
a
really
interesting
and
again
very
complicated
year,
so
that'll
be
cool.
A
Number
five
is:
what
are
you
most
excited
about?
Moving
forward
goals
for
2022?
Maybe
we
strike
that
or
maybe
it
is
maybe
we
strike
the?
What
are
you
most
excited
about?
Maybe
it's
just
what
goals
can
you
envision
for
2022?
Would
that
be
more
helpful
for
our
purposes?
Okay
and
then
what
do
you
see
as
challenges
and
our
opportunities
for
improvement?
A
That's
a
really
broad
way
of
asking
that,
but
hopefully
people
will
feel
comfortable
to
give
authentic
answers
about
that
because
they're.
Clearly
there
always
is
room
for
improvement,
and
then
I
do
I
did
put
in
just
ideas
for
filling
our
vacancies.
It's
just
kind
of
a
chronic
evergreen
type
issue
that
we're
experiencing
and
all
boards
and
commissions
are
experiencing,
but
you
just
never
know
if
there's
a
creative
idea
out
there
that
someone
might
have
unless
you
ask-
and
so
this
could,
maybe
people
are
out
of
ideas.
Maybe
people
don't
are
on
you
know.
A
I've
kind
of
this
has
been
a
broken
record,
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
just
thought
I
would
as
long
as
we're
asking
people
for
feedback
that
it
was
worth
asking
and
then
just
of
course,
like
the
end
question
is
just
any
other
feedback
or
comments,
so
does
that
feel
concise
enough
to
kind
of
do
the
job
that
we
needed
to
do
and
not
be
over
complicated,
all
right
cool?
Thank
you
for
the
help
with
that.
I
appreciate
it
a
lot
okay.
So
the
next
item
is
the
proposed
cadence.
A
I
I
do
feel
like.
I
have
over
complicated
this
unintentionally,
but
I
will
explain
so
clearly.
A
work
plan
process
is
really
it's
just
it's
a
it's
a
bit
of
a
north
star,
but
it's
just
a
way
to
try
to
guide
some
actionable
goals,
and
it
was
really
important
to
me
that
we
actually
try
to
put
some
really
good
thinking
into
the
process
of
the
work
plan,
even
as
we
still
face
a
lot
of
complexity
with
the
pandemic
and
everything
else.
I
know
what
changes
it's.
A
Maybe
a
little
bit
focused
on
some
things
that
we
might
be
able
to
achieve,
as
well
as
being
this
connectivity
being
a
document
that
creates
a
connectivity
from
the
mac
and
are
elected
and
other
people
that
may
want
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
us
or
understand
us
a
little
bit
better,
and
so
I
kind
of
you
know
I
last
year,
I
think
it
was
pretty
difficult
to
navigate
the
work
plan
process
and
that's
okay,
and
even
the
year
before
we
had
a
great
work
plan
process
and
that's
when
the
pandemic
happened,
and
so
we
were
just
entering
quarter
two
and
everything
went
upside
down.
A
So
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
kind
of
like
get
the
train
back
on
the
track
a
little
bit
and
we
do
have
some
clear
goals
for
this
year.
I
mean
we
talked
about
in
policy.
A
Anyway,
we
talked
about
how
the
mac
really
asserting
themselves
in
the
process
of
developing
the
department
of
art
and
cultural
affairs,
makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
for
us
to
be
prioritizing
that
I
mean
access
and
engagement,
clearly,
like
a
community
connection
to
get
input
from
artists
and
arts
group
and
and
the
public
about
what
priorities
they
wish
for
from
their
departments.
A
Us
advocating
for
a
strategic
planning
process
that
potentially
utilizes
a
you
know
outside
facilitator,
because
my
fear-
and
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
folks
fear-
is
that
the
work
will
happen
in
the
silo
and
a
lot
of
these
types
of
opportunities
where
we
really
could
be
engaging
folks
and
we
could
be
participating
and
lending
capacity
to.
What's
you
know
their
they've
budgeted
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
we
don't
know
if
that's
stacking
programming.
A
What
is
it
the
terms
that
they
have
used
had
been
that
it's
the
money
that's
been
built
to
develop
the
department,
so
who's
gonna
be
making
those
decisions
about
that
budget
question
number
one,
and
how
are
we
going
to
fit
into
that?
And
I
do
think
that
us
like
prior
okay,
it's
for
two
staff
members,
that's
been
determined
goku
and
I
welcome
you
come
at
the
perfect
time,
yeah,
okay,
so.
D
D
A
D
D
D
So
those
are
mary.
You
mary
has
also
been
aware
of
the
job
description,
that's
being
written,
but
that's
all.
I
know
I
have
no
idea
where
the
money's
coming
from
for
the
new
director's
salary.
I
have
no
idea
what,
where
the
money's
coming
from
for
any
additional
funding.
D
Have
been
directed
to
go
ahead
with
the
job
description
for
one
of
the
staff
positions
because
one
of
them
would
land
in
my
office,
the
creative
city,
making
staff
position,
the
other
one
hasn't
been
created,
there's
no
sort
of
job
structure
for
it.
You
have
to
you
have
to
make
these
things.
You
have
to
build
them,
brick
by
brick,
so
that
work
probably
would
land
in
my
bucket
if
it
gets
approved
next
year,
but
I
have
been
told
to
go
ahead
with
the
other
one.
D
I'm
I
don't
so
mary,
please
chime
in
here
about
rules.
I
I've
never
been
involved
in
the
creation
of
a
new
department,
but
I
would
imagine
any
type
of
creation
would
involve
hiring
people
would
involve
internal
work.
I
don't
know
if
they
it's
a.
If
a
volunteer
can
commission
would
have
any
legal
role
or
would
be
allowed
to
have
any
legal
role
in
the
creation
of
a
new
department.
D
Hiring
is
entirely
up
to
department,
heads
and
arts
commissions.
Don't
get
involved
in
hiring
decisions.
Well,
just
a
couple,
just
a
little
commission,
sorry
at
commissions.
I
I'm
not
aware
of
any
commission.
So
for
me
it's
a
rules
question
it
would
be
asking
the
city
clerk.
I
just
don't
know.
I
honestly
don't
know.
I
I
feel
somewhat.
I
would
have
to
learn
more
and
mary
probably
has
a
better
handle
on
it,
because
I
believe
you've
been
through
this
before
mary.
B
Commission
just
saying
you
know
we're
the
you
know,
body
that
advises
the
council
and
the
mayor,
and
this
is
this
is
some
vision
that
we
have
and
it's
gonna
be
all
new
leadership,
and
you
know
I
think,
as
long
as
I
I
think,
as
long
as
you're
diplomatic
in
it,
you
know,
I
think,
and
you
know
I
mean
I
also
do
think
you
have
a
something
to
be
concerned
about
right,
like
you're
kind
of
like
what
who's
going
to
staff
you.
B
So
I
I
think
it's
you
know
and
I
think
that
the
players
are
not
necessarily
aware
of
those
kinds
of
issues
and
so
for
you
to
say
hey
where,
as
far
as
I
know,
there's
not
a
clerk
in
the
coordinator's
office
right.
So
no
so-
and
you
know
I
mean
I
think
I
think
it's
data-
I
think
it's
okay
to
say,
and
this
is
we
have
a
vision
I
mean
your
job.
Is
to
bring
forward
a
community
voice
to
the
city
related
to
arts
and
culture.
D
Yeah
and
just
to
to
note
that
this
is
not
going
to
be
part
of
the
coordinator's
administration,
so
this
department
is
not
tied
to
the
coordinator's
administration.
So
that
means
this
department
is
a
stand-alone
thing.
It's
its
own
thing,
and
so
the
only
staff
that
we
have
in
the
ordinance
is
the
department
head
and
then,
of
course,
the
rest
of
us
who
would
be
underneath
that
person.
So
there's
no
clerical
stuff,
there's
no
administrative
staff,
it's
all
program
staff.
D
Now
I
I
think
we're
all
concerned
about
it,
we're
all
confused
about
what
january
1st
will
look
like
and
whether
you
know-
and
maybe
maybe
an
email
to
andrea,
brennan
and
the
coordinator
would
would
be
a
good
idea
because
we
have
a
new
coordinator,
because
essentially
this
department
will
report
to
the
coordinator.
D
So
I
have
no
idea
what
has
been
happening.
You
know,
I
I
don't
know
where
the
coordinator
is
in
decision
making.
I
just
know
that
a
job
is
being
you
know,
job
description
is
being
put
together.
I
don't
know
any
timelines
of
hiring
and
who
the
interim
would
be,
because
without
danielle,
that
connection
is
gone.
A
So
I
I
can
just
imagine
that
some
of
this
clarity
could
actually
be
articulated
in
our
word
plan
understand
the
framework
of
the
department
and
the
roles
that
are
going
to
be
a
part
of
the
department.
Like
just
I
mean
we'll
brainstorm
this
better
as
an
exec
committee
and
on
all
of
our
alt
groups,
but
to
to
exclude
the
commission's
intent
to
participate
in
the
new
department
would
be,
in
my
opinion,
just
it
wouldn't
make
any
sense.
A
It
makes
no
sense.
It's
like
we've
got
all
these
people
that
represent
all
these
awards
and
have
very
big
networks
and
constituents
and
are
able
to
bring
capacity
for
input,
are
able
to
bring
capacity
for
development,
are
able
to
bring
policy
capacity.
So
I'm
here
a
lack
of
capacity
and
we're
bringing
capacity
so.
E
We
do
our
job,
we
don't
we
have
that
we
have
that
responsibility.
We
don't
have
to
ask
for
permission,
so
I
think
we
just
do
what
we're
appointed
to
do,
that.
It
seems
I
and
whatever
happens
to
it
beyond
there,
whatever
it
will
get
nested
with
everything
else,
but
it
seems
really
clear
to
me.
I
agree
with
mary.
I
mean
I
think
it's
really
clear.
Of
course
we
have
something
to
say
about
this
and.
A
E
A
D
And-
and
I
think
I
think
you
should
go
ahead
and
do
that
and
wait
for
the
dust
to
settle
because,
as
I
said
there
is
december,
is
going
to
be
there's
a
lot,
that's
going
to
happen
in
december
during
markup
and
whether
and
and
then
then
the
outstanding
question
is.
Is
there
a
new
department
without
funding?
D
A
A
That's
fine,
I
think
we
can
move
on.
I
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
explain
the
the
thinking
and
the
strategy
behind
the
work
plan
and
prioritizing
the
development
of
the
new
department
and
what
how
matt,
what
mac
wishes
to
see
and
how
we
wish
to
interact
with
with
that
is
what
we're
going
to
be
mostly
focused
on
so.
A
Right
I
mean,
if
anything,
I
would
think
it
would
be
a
tremendous
gift
to
say
this
group
of
passionate
people
who
are
appointed
on
your
arts
commission
have
given
this
a
lot
of
thought
and
have
organized
around
these
actionable
items
to
help
with
the
you
know,
to
help
provide
capacity
and
bring
in
more
voices
and
inclusivity
with
this
process.
So,
okay.
So
the
idea
is
that
at
the
october
meeting
we
will
request
that
alts
work
on
their
draft
goals
for
november,
so
that
we
can
discuss
them.
A
So
basically,
they
have
from
october
to
november
to
draft
them
up,
and
it
would
be
nice
if
we
could
also
kind
of
have
an
idea
about
this
at
our
next
exact
meeting.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
fully
drafted,
but
it's
just
like.
Let's
get
talking
about
what
we
think
we're
dialing
down
on
and
let's
talk
about
it
and
that
way.
A
In
the
november
meeting
we
can
discuss
the
drafts
and
then
the
expectation
is
that
the
final
drafts
of
the
work
plan
will
be
due
in
time
for
the
december
executive
meeting
so
that
we
can
kind
of
you
know,
as
leaders
of
in
representing
you
know,
representing
the
different
groups
that
are
working
in
a
subcommittee
fashion,
that
we
can
talk
about
it
and
discuss
if
we
have
any
suggestions
whatever
that
may
be
so
that
at
our
december
meeting,
we
will
formally
adopt
the
work
plan
for
2022
and
if
we
are
able
to
accomplish
that
with
the
survey
information
with
getting
some
feedback
canvassing
some
of
this
boy
will
that
be
a
wonderful
accomplishment,
and
I
think
everyone
will
feel
really
good
about
ending
you
that
way.
A
A
So
but
maybe
for
the
benefit
of
golden-
and
you
know
anybody
else
if
we
want
to
just
go
around
really
quick
and
if
there's
anything
top
of
mind
right
now
that
you'd
like
to
share
so
we'll
start
with
policy,
and
I
will
just
share
that
this
conversation
we
just
had
about
the
work
plan
dominated
a
lot
of
the
conversation
of
that
small
work
group
and
about
what
how
we're
going
to
present
ourselves
so
lucy.
A
E
A
C
I
think
that
was
a
good
summation
joan.
I
think
the
work
plans
are
at
the
forefront
right
now
as
we're
moving
forward.
A
Okay,
perfect
access
and
engagement
jeff.
Do
you
have
an
update
for
us.
F
Yes,
I
do
so
three
things,
three
topics.
I
want
to
talk
about:
first
kind
of
the
meetings
and
guest
speakers.
Angela
two
stars
will
be
joining
us
for
october
meeting
and
she's
fresh
off
of
the
new
installation
at
the
walker,
sculpture,
garden,
so
that'd
be
super.
Super
exciting
crystal
was
able
to
snag
that.
F
I
I
got
the
email
while
I
was
sitting
here
so
I
mean
it's,
it's
it's
fresh
off
the
thing,
so
I
hope
we
still
have
time
for
that
and
it
can
work
that
into
the
agenda.
We
do
not
have
anyone
yet
for
for
november
november,
but
we're
going
to
reach
out
to
crete
theater.
I
believe
they
have
some
new
renovations
and
some
new
they're
doing
some
new
things
so
that
that's
a
target,
but
we
do
not
have
that
locked
in.
F
So
that's
topic
number
one
topic
number
two
was
we
did
the
surveys,
thank
you
goon
and
mary
for
sharing
the
link,
and
you
know
we
were
okay
with
the
number
of
surveys
coming
back,
so
we
got
13
surveys
to
come
back.
We
gave
it
a
short
time
period,
but
so
13th
survey
excuse
me.
13
surveys
came
back
and
the
nice
part
was
that
11
of
them
were
interested
in
participating
in
an
artist
panel
and
I'll
get
to
ours
panel
in
a
second.
F
But
overall
the
results
were
very
good
and
very
complementary.
You
know
there's
a
couple
of
you
know:
hey.
You
could
do
this
this,
so
we'll
compile
the
results
because
they
had
until
the
8th
to
last
friday,
so
we're
we're
still
compiling
the
results,
we'll
compile
the
results
and
report
report
out.
You
know
to
the
to
the
commission
about
what
we
heard,
but
just
know
we
talked
about
it
in
general.
They
were
very
good
and
then
the
artist
panel.
F
You
know
we
want
to
push
it
back,
because
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
activity
kind
of
going
on
and
still
kind
of
you
know
up
in
the
air.
You
know
on
me,
don't
meet
so
we
wanted
to
push
it
back
to
early
to
mid
january.
F
We
wanted
to
be
public
and
we
wanted
to
have
time,
give
us
a
little
time
to
push
it
out
to
artists
group.
You
know
to
art
community
groups,
because
one
of
the
things
in
the
survey
we
did
find
out
of
how
they
find
out
about
our
information
from
the
city
is
generally
one
of
the
biggest
areas
is
through
community
groups
right.
There
are
community
groups,
so
so
we'd
like
to
push
it
out
to
them
and
we're
going
to
plan
for
it
to
be
virtual.
F
So
if
something
changes
then
we
can
think
about
it,
but
just
you
know
to
to
eliminate
the
whole.
Are
we
going
to
do
it
this
way,
we're
just
playing
for
virtual
and
just
kind
of
go,
go
from
there
and
try
to
get
as
many
people
in
the
public,
so
that
was
topic
two.
I
should
ask
questions
on
the
first,
so
any
any
questions
on
any
of
those
two
topics
before
I
go
to
my
last
one.
F
Yes,
okay,
yeah
yeah,
and
we
got
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
do
that
for
next
week,
but
yeah
we'll
be
some
kind
of
report
out
some
kind
of
grid,
so
we
just
got
lisa
sent
it
to
us
today,
so
we
got
to
kind
of
figure
out
how
to
socialize
it
among
the
commission,
okay,.
A
Very
cool-
that's
super
great,
and
it
is
a
good
responsibility,
I'm
not
that
many
people
want
to
participate.
I
also
just
want
a
little
aside
if
you
know
moving
the
panel
talk
to
january,
I
think
that's
a
good
idea.
It's
obviously
the
goal
is
to
achieve
the
outcomes,
we're
looking
for
and
not
to
just
get
things
done
by
a
certain
date
and
time,
so
that's
its
priority.
So
that's
great
that
the
group
is
thinking
about
that.
A
I
would
just
say
to
include
it
in
your
work
plan,
because
you
can
also
get
a
little
traction
that
way
when
we
canvas
with
elected.
Maybe
we
can
interest
them
in
participating
or
when
or
having
their
aides,
participate
and
listening
to
feedback
from
artists,
so
that
would
be
really
cool
way
to
just
have
all
those
people
work
together.
A
F
Yeah,
no
I'll
definitely
mention
that.
Okay
and
then
the
last
thing
was
the
december
meeting.
So
you
know
originally
we
had
talked
about
you
know
doing
some
stuff
at
you
know
as
as
a
big
party
kind
of
a
celebration,
so
we
did
want
to
what
we
don't
know,
and
so
we
haven't
asked
asking
a
proposal,
and
you
guys
can
tell
us
this.
F
You
know
it
doesn't
work
or
doesn't
it
doesn't
work,
and
so
what
we're
we're
looking
for
is
in
the
december
15th
meeting,
maybe
30
to
45
minutes
on
the
program
where
we're
going
to
have
a
celebration
right,
and
you
know
whether
we
have
a
you
know
and
the
agenda
is
still
to
be
determined.
But
you
know
maybe
this
this
highlight
reel
of
you
know
stuff.
We
could
do
as
part
of
it
right.
F
We
were
thinking
about
maybe
inviting
a
spoken
word
artist
right,
because
we
have
a
little
bit
of
budget
for
it.
It's
going
to
be
virtual,
so
we're
not
going
to
spend
like
we
would.
You
know
on.
You
know
catering
and
things
like
that.
So
and
then
the
one
idea
that
came
up
that
mary,
I
didn't-
have
a
chance
because
I've
been
traveling,
I'm
actually
in
vegas,
so
I
didn't
have
a
chance
in
between
in
between
that
meeting
and
this
meeting,
I
I
flew
across
the
country.
F
So
I'd
have
a
chance
to
ask
you
about
this,
but
so
big
reveal
one
of
the
ask
was
you
know,
maybe
mary
be
able
to
do
whether
it's
you
or
your
department,
a
virtual
tour
of
the
new
building
right
so
as
part
of
it.
So
we
could
talk
kind
of
you
know
if
you
guys
already
have
something
kind
of
you
know
you
know
already
done,
maybe
maybe
an
art.
Maybe
we
can
have
an
artist
talk
about
one
of
the
works
and
things
like
that.
F
But
but
the
thing
is
30
to
45
minutes
of
some
kind
of
fun.
You
know
part
of
the
meeting.
Does
the
meeting
go
a
little
longer?
Do
we?
You
know,
that's
the
ask
and
then
can
you
you
know:
can
we
do
a
a
a
little
more
effort
than
normal
to
get
more
public
involved?
You
know
in
the
in
in
this
meeting
because
this
would
be
the
traditional
kind
of
public
meeting,
even
though
it's
going
to
be
virtual.
B
B
I'm
wondering
so
what
we're
planning
right
now
is
we're
planning
two
events
in
december
for
the
new
building
and
the
art,
and
tentatively
we
are
planning
them
right
now
on
december,
2nd
and
december
10th.
The
first
thing
is
an
invitation
only
thing
that
the
arts
commission
would
be
invited
to
which
is
mostly
to
just
get
the
press
excited
about
the
art
in
the
new
building,
and
so
it
would
be
the
press.
B
F
B
States
right
now,
but
it
would
be
like
during
the
day
tristan,
would
facilitate
a
conversation
among
some
of
the
artists.
We
can't
17
person
panel
so
but,
and
there
probably
would
be
some
tour
beforehand
that
would
be
optional.
The
second
thing
is
a
large
public
event.
B
We
wanted
to
start
it
at
towards
the
end
of
the
day,
so
employees
could
come
if
they
want
so
we're
thinking
like
four
o'clock,
and
then
there
would
be
some
talking
heads
like
there
always
are
these
dedications
and
some
music
and
some
food
and
artists
would
be
at
during
some
point.
Artists
would
be
kind
of
stationed
at
their
works
right
and
people
could
go
around
and
look
at
them.
B
So
that's
kind
of
the
plan
right
now
and
mandy
went
to
the
planning
meeting,
but
maybe
you
know
it
isn't
out
of
the
realm
of
possibility
right
that
the
arts
commission's
public
meeting
could
overlap
with
the
public
event.
F
B
B
F
B
F
B
You
know
I'm
up
for
anything
technically,
I
give
a
ton
of
tours
right.
If
you
want
to
try
to
have
this
event
in
person
and
not
virtual,
we
could
do
that
too.
Right.
B
B
We
also
have
some
yeah.
We
could
have
some
artists
come
and
talk
and
show
pic.
You
know
the
artists
have
a
lot
of
presentations
right,
they've
been
presenting
on
their
work
for
three
years.
They
have
a
lot
of
presentations.
A
number
of
the
artists
have
done
virtual
interviews
with
employees,
and
so
they
have
their
presentation
from
their
virtual
interviews
and
they're
really
good,
and
so
we
could
do.
You
could
just
pick
a
couple
people.
You
know.
B
A
So
you
know
we
used
to
do
these
made
here
tours
and
they
were
like
40
windows
at
a
time
and
it
was
sort
of
nutty,
but
what
we
would
do
it
with
parties
with
big
receptions
and
tours
is
that
we
would
offer
optional
tour
times
and
then
people
could
come
and
go
or
visit
or
mingle
or
whatever,
and
maybe
this
won't
work
but
and
then
there's
like
a
tour
at
this
time
and
there's
a
tour
at
this
time,
and
you
pick
one
of
the
two
tours
to
participate
in
and
maybe
tour
number
one
is
floors,
one
through
five
and
two
or
number
two.
A
You
know
what
I
mean
like
you
can
kind
of
do
it
that
way,
and
that
way
at
least
people
get
a
taste
of
part
of
it,
and
I
can
do
it.
The
other
thing
I
was
going
to
say
if
we
decided
that
it
was
too
complicated
to
accomplish
a
meeting
and
a
tour
like
in
person
at
you
know,
at
the
same,
in
the
same
sitting,
I
think
the
idea
of
a
highlight
reel
some,
like
maybe
some
surprise,
guest
artist
speakers
that
could
be
fun.
A
But
what
I
was
gonna
say
is
that
you
know
and
jeff
you
can
ask
you
know
what
people
think
about
this,
but
it
could
be
really
fun.
I
think
what
we've
done
in
the
past,
when
people
have
left
them
we
haven't
been
able
to
have
a
goodbye
party,
is
that
we
janae
drove
around
and
delivered
gifts
to
everybody,
and
we
could
have
like
a
little
december
swag
bag
for
all
of
the
commissioners.
A
That
includes
like
either
an
alcoholic
or
non-alcoholic
cocktail
to
cheers
with
maybe
a
fancy
little
snack,
maybe
that
year
in
review
that
I'm
talking
about
and
the
work
plan
or
whatever
I
mean
it's
kind
of
nerdy.
F
Know
we're
close
on
time.
So
let
us
do
this,
so
if
you
you
guys,
are
okay
with
the
setting
us
giving
us
time
right,
you're,
like
hey,
you
have
45
minutes,
you
know
I'll.
Thank
you,
mary
for
your
your
update,
because
I'll
go
back
and
say
hey.
This
is
what
mary
you
know
and
you
know
her
team
is
doing
she's
offered
to
help.
So
if
we
still
want
to
do
something
like
that,
we
can
use
it
but
know
that
there
are
some.
F
We
didn't
know
that
there
are
some
events
coming
up
so
yeah
like
I
said
you
know
what
you
think
about
some
spoken
words.
So
if
you
guys
are
okay
with
giving
us
like
45
minutes,
then
we'll
come
back
by
the
next
exact
meeting
in
november
with
an
agenda
that
we
can
start
to
look
at
and
start
to.
You
know
you
guys
can
react
to.
Is
that
does
that
work.
A
F
A
Okay,
great
so,
let's
quickly
just
move
through
the
public
art
advisory
committee,
I
I
set
out
probably
the
biggest
decision
making
of
the
year.
But
mary,
do
you
want
to
provide
any
quick
updates
about
that
at
all,
or
is
that
something
you
want
to
provide
when
we
meet.
B
Yeah
so
the
panel
selected
projects
this
year,
it
was
really
hard
that
they
have
funded
a
project
in
the
upper
harbor.
They
have
funded
a
project
at
hiawatha
and
lake,
which
is
really
good.
You
know,
because
that
area
of
the
city
basically
burned
down
and
that
under
bridge
environment
is
like
the
worst
public
environment
in
the
city
practically
and
they
also
funded
east
phillips
park
and
north
commons
park.
B
So
they
had
17,
really
fabulous
ideas,
and
some
of
them
are
projects
that
can
be
postponed
until
the
next
round,
but
yeah
and
I
haven't
actually
even
announced
this
to
the
artists
or
the
departments.
Yet
so
please
don't
share
this
broadly,
because
mohabba
and
I
are
going
to
call
the
department
people
and
tell
them
ourselves.
A
That's
that's
just
so
best
practices,
you
don't
announce
winners
until
yeah.
B
B
Yeah
watch
it
and
we
will
move
in
our
meeting
tomorrow
to
kind
of
figure
out
who's
going
to
call
who,
but
I
might
get
really
excited
about
all
of
these
sites
and
they're
great
opportunities.
So
the
next
step
is
for
me
to
figure
out
who
the
project
managers
are
going
to
be
for
these
projects
and
then
and
then
get
going
on
them.
E
B
I'm
happy
to
give
you
a
slide
or
two
on
each
one.
You
know
I
mean
they're
right
now,
they're
just
sites,
so
it's
not
it's
a
picture
of
a
location
right
or
you
know
the
park
board
has
master
plan
documents.
We
can
pull
something
from
those
too.
Maybe.
B
E
A
A
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
Okay,
really
quickly,
exec
committee.
Clearly
I
need
to
get
some
draft
work
plan
information
to
you.
Mostly.
We
will
serve
as
support
for
the
work
plan
for
all
the
groups
and
we
will
also
continue
to
agenda
set,
and
you
know
I'll,
just
I'll
draft
up
some
of
what
I
think
this
group
will
want
to
have,
but
we
don't
need
to
have
that
right
away,
but
I'll
just
I'll.
Take
that
and
then
I'll
ask
for
your
feedback
via
email.
A
So
we
can
work
a
little
bit
via
email,
hopefully
just
to
get
your
feedback
and
then,
when
we
meet
we'll
discuss
it
more.
So
just
so
you
know
that,
and
I
guess
for
me
right
now.
I
think
our
our
goals
right
now
is
to
try
to
finish
up
the
year
accomplishing
what
our
alts
wish
to
accomplish
being
able
to
get
to
a
formally
approved
2022
work
plan
which
will
require
us
to
do
it
probably
put
in
a
little
extra
time
with
our
groups
or
not
maybe
the
same
amount
of
time.
A
I'm
not
sure.
I
also
wanted
to
ask
if
we
want
to
do
a
retreat,
and
if
we
do,
I
mean
I
think
a
little
more
thinking
needs
to
go
into
it
like
what
is
it
that
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
a
retreat?
And
maybe
we
don't
even
ask
these
questions
quite
yet
until
we
get
the
results
of
our
survey,
because
that
might
actually
elicit
some.
E
A
I'm
kind
of
down
with
that
as
a
decision
actually
right
now,
just
because
there's
so
much
grey
and
there
is
clear
work
that
we
need
to
accomplish
and
we'll
take
some
time
so
yeah
quarter
one
retreat
and
maybe
that's
something
in
our
workplace,
maybe
that's
something
that
we
can
try
to
at
least
get
a
little
better
handle
on
what
it
is
throughout
this
last
quarter.
A
You
know
what
that
looks
like
and
what
we're
gonna,
what
we're
gonna
want
to
accomplish
the
year
in
review
opportunity,
I'm
just
gonna,
I'm
gonna
after
we
get
our
survey
results.
If
we
get
some
good,
you
know
responses
so
that
people
things
people
are
really
proud
of
that
they
accomplished.
I'm
gonna
just
see
if
ahava
would
be
interested
in
formatting
it
to
look
similar
to
our
one
page
for
our
commissioners.
Maybe
maybe
she
doesn't
have
time.
Maybe
she
doesn't
want
to
do
it.
A
F
Joe
yeah,
I
don't
know
if
you
saw
in
the
chat
that
lana
had
a
way
to
ask
that
question
to
get
the
year
in.
So
you
might
want
to
look
in
the
chat
before
you.
A
Thank
you,
I'm
sorry.
I
didn't
see
that
perfect,
that
actually,
okay-
and
I
think,
just
kind
of
within
this
conversation,
I'm
kind
of
wrapping
up
our
quarter.
Four
considerations,
to
be
honest,
like
you
know,
getting
everybody
motivated
and
working
towards
making
that
work
plan
accomplishing
what
it
is.
They
felt
they
feel
they
need
to
accomplish
for
end
of
year.
A
There
also
is
some
budget
considerations,
but
we
can't
really
talk
about
that
until
we
know
what
our
goals
are
so
a
lot
of
times,
we'll
finalize
a
work
plan
and
then
in
january,
we'll
talk
about
budget
and
give
mary
something
a
little
bit
more
formal.
It's
never
a
big
budget.
Obviously,
but
there
is
one
each
year
any
thoughts
about
that
mary.
Is
there
anything
else
that
we
need
to
do
for
that?
Can
that
come
in
january?
Just
like
the
budget
considerations
for
the
year
after
we
finalize
the
lift
plane.
B
I
think
that
would
be
good.
I
think
we
will
know
in
january
whether
or
not
the
arts
commission
is
still
in
cped
in
january
or
whether
or
not
the
arts
commission
is
in
the
new
department
and
you
know,
and
then
we
can
talk
to
if
it's,
if
they're
still
in
cped,
we
can
talk
to
andrea.
B
A
All
right
and
then
I
have
been
doing
some
minor
tweaks
to
the
october
agenda,
which
kind
of
follows
the
exact
agenda,
and
you
know
it's
just
adapted
a
little
bit
for
the
general
meeting.
Well,
basically,
if
the
guest
presenter,
the
poet
laureate
work,
group
vana,
will
provide
some
information,
he
will
request
the
action
of
approval
for
the
work
the
poet
laureate
work
group.
The
third
item
is
the
survey
results
summary.
Hopefully
we
have
that.
A
The
fourth
item
is
the
proposed
cadence
and
priorities
for
the
2020
work
plan.
We
will
discuss
that
and
then
the
last
is
just
all
of
the
alt
updates,
so
each
chair
or
speaker
will
give
whatever
items
they
wish
to
share
and
prioritize
at
that
time,
and
that
is
it.
Is
there
anything
that
we're
missing
for
october?
A
Okay,
all
right,
I'm
so
sorry,
we
went
over
time
you
guys,
but
thank
you.
This
is
a
really
great
discussion
and
really
helpful.
I
especially
appreciate
your
help
with
us
through
their
questions
and
kind
of
thinking,
also
about
like
how
we're
advancing
this
work
plan
and
intersecting
with
department
development.
I
know
it's
thorny,
so
it's
always
nice
to
talk
about
it,
a
little
bit
more
and
get
a
little
clearer
about
it
so
and
again,
jeff.
Thank
you
so
much
for
representing
access
and
considering
making
december
a
celebration.
C
I
just
wanted
to
do
one
quick,
thank
you
to
mary
for
saturday's
dedication
and
to
you
joan
for
being
a
fabulous
mc.
I
mean
I
just
have
to
say
it
was
so
nice.
I
saw
everybody
on
exec,
not
just
in
the
virtuals.
It
was
amazing
and
you
know
really
inspiring
to
see
into
fruition,
like
all
the
hard
work
that
takes
seven
years
in
the
making
for
that
beautiful,
beautiful
pedestrian
bridge,
and
it
made
me
feel
like
a
really
positive
connection
to
the
arts
commission.
So
thank
you
for
everybody
who
made
that
event
such
a.
F
B
B
I
really
think
it's
really
good
for
the
arts
commission
to
be
front
and
center
at
these
events,
because,
first
of
all
the
arts
commission,
you
know
made
the
public
art
program
happen.
Right,
I
mean
not
just
you
know
getting
the
ordinance,
but
the
arts
commission
actually
created
the
public
art
program
and
lobbied
the
city
council
to
have
one.
B
But
you
know
it's
also
a
good
time
for
all
of
the
constituents
to
be
reminded
that
there
is
an
arts
commission
and
that-
and
you
guys
have
played
such
an
important
role
in
the
public
art
process
for
all
the
approvals
and
everything
that
you
should
be
front
and
center
at
the
party.
A
A
A
C
A
Everybody
have
a
wonderful
evening
and
let
me
know
if
I've
missed
anything.
My
door's
always
open.
Jeff
travel,
safe,
have
fun.