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From YouTube: May 4, 2021 Bicycle Advisory Committee 5Es Subcommittee
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B
B
B
D
All
right
can
kind
of
move
us
forward
a
little
bit
just
to
say
that
we
didn't
quite
get
through
in
our
last
meeting,
our
strategic
planning
type
conversation
in
getting
to
the
parts
of
the
survey,
responses
that
were
related
to
suggestions
for
action
and
suggestions
for
learning.
D
I
think
we'll
kind
of
break
this
up
into
more
or
less
three
sections
today,
sort
of
moving
through
the
suggestions
for
action
and
then
the
suggestions
for
learning
and
hopefully
just
be
able
to
popcorn
through
some
of
these
suggestions
from
the
group
and
then
hold
some
space
after
that
for
updates
from
public
works
and
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
have
a
conversation
about
any
actions
that
we
want
to
move
forward
from
this
committee
to
the
full
committee
at
the
next
meeting.
D
So
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
just
do
a
quick
screen
share
here
of
the
last
couple
of
slides
from
the
survey
from
last
meeting
and.
B
Thanks
everyone
who
participated
in
that
one
that
one
was
full
of
lots
of
discussion
and
really
helpful
to
get
us
started.
D
Absolutely
so
I'm
hoping
we
can
kind
of
do
the
popcorn
reading
of
these
again,
just
to
make
sure
everyone
is
able
to
access
them.
D
B
D
B
Free
yeah
suggestions
for
action
understand
the
new
impact
of
enforcement,
not
being
a
part
of
the
five
e's
and
boost
work
and
other
ease
to
make
up
for
potential
pitfalls.
Policies
towards
improving
bicycle
transportation
need
to
be
stronger.
Infrastructure
should
be
more
forgiving
for
cyclist
safety
and
compromises
shouldn't
be
a
norm.
B
B
Does
the
bac
want
to
be
an
outreach
advocacy
group
or
just
an
advisory
group
to
the
city
council?
I'm
not
sure
I
have
seen
much
outreach
other
than
some
partnering
agency
programs
promoted
through
the
bac.
I'm
also
not
sure
if
anyone
outside
of
the
niche
of
cycling
advocates
knows
much
about
the
bac.
I
struggle
with
this
one.
E
Next
I'll
I'll
jump
in
this
is
philip,
perhaps
by
giving
the
city
a
comprehensive
report
card,
I'm
not
sure
comparing
the
fact
that
black
people
and
other
ipod
communities
cannot
move
freely,
but
I'm
not
sure
what
bsc
is
able
to
do
regarding
that,
besides
working
it
in
more
heavily
in
the
process,
we
evaluate
or
consider
invite
city
staff
relating
to
these
issues
to
talk
with
us
about
what
the
city
is
doing,
maybe
give
us
a
little
homework
to
do
after
the
meetings
like
talk
to
your
neighbors
about
biking
instead
of
driving,
promote
bike
to
work
days
in
the
summer,
etc.
E
I'd
like
to
see
a
standardized
annual
evaluation
report
and
money
to
support
storytelling
about
multi-modal
living,
create
a
cheat
sheet
that
gets
the
info
of
the
work
of
the
bac
out
to
neighborhoods
and
agencies
and
finally,
taking
action
within
the
5e
format,
as
the
bsc
feels
a
little
a
little
forced
to
me.
Since
we
are
a
city
committee,
I
see
that
bac's
role
more
in
advising
about
the
city's
policy
and
programming
in
relationship
to
bicycling.
E
Well,
I'll,
you
know
I,
I
was
just
looking
at
my
notes
from
last
week
as
we
went
through
education,
equity
evaluation
and
engagement,
and
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
very
these
are
pretty
specific.
But
a
couple
of
things
that
I
thought
were
rather
intriguing
jumped
out
to
me.
One
under
evaluation
was
that
a
bsc
member
or
several
of
us
would
bicycle
with
a
public
works
staff
before
these
sort
of
contractors
paid
as
we
get
as
the
as
projects
come
to
the
end.
E
So
that's
sort
of
on
the
ground
physical
checking
out
seems
like
we
would
learn
a
lot,
so
they
would
learn
a
lot
contractor.
City
relationships
would
learn
a
lot.
So
I
thought
that
was
an
interesting
action
item
and
then
I
think
the
other
one
was
that
the
bac
could
work
with
public
works
on
the
sort
of
guidance
or
sort
of
the
metrics
of
how
and
what
sort
of
how
engagement
is
done.
What
engagement
is
done
around
specific
projects
that
the
bac
has
under
its
those
purview?
B
B
Move
things
forward
to
be
safer
for
bicyclists
in
general
and
where
we
fit
within
the
city
planning,
and
it
sounds
like
we
want
to
think
about
like
beyond
just
approving
certain
things
and
really
like
phil,
said
get
into
more
like
how
that
process
is
moving
forward.
I.
B
Always
feel
like
biking
in
particular
because
of
the
five
e's
you
kind
of
get
stuck
in
like
we
have
to
silo
things
into
those
and,
thank
god,
equity
was
in
in
e.
So
I
I
mean,
I
guess
it's
a
good
framework
just
to
start
from,
but
I
don't
know
how
helpful
it
is,
as
we
seem
to
be
talking
about
the
larger
picture.
If
that
will
serve
us
as
a
sub
committee.
Moving
forward.
F
Sure
and
sorry,
it
wasn't
really
irresponsible.
You
just
said
bri,
so
if
others
have
want
to
jump
back
on
that,
we
can.
But
I
think
this
slide
in
the
in
the
words
on
this
slide
bring
bring
up
kind
of
a
tension
that
I
feel
sometimes
with
the
the
bac
and
I'll
particularly
key
in
on
the
words
just
an
advisory
committee
to
the
city
council,
because
it's
like
that
is
what
the
bac
is
right
like
at
its
core.
F
It
is
an
advisory
committee
to
the
city
council
and
that's
what
I
think
makes
I'll
just
say:
the
the
engine
or
the
the
5e
subcommittee
and
the
programs
and
policies
subcommittee
and
in
the
pedestrian
advisory
committee,
kind
of
both
challenging
and
maybe
like
exciting
and
is
to
like
figure
out
like
where,
where
can
the
those
committees
like
make
an
impact
on
the
non-engineering?
F
But
what?
But
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
like,
like
the
bac
and
pc
kind
of
can't
be
an
outreach
advocacy
group
in
the
sense
of
like
you
know
having
staff
for,
like
you
know,
so
it's
like.
I
don't
know.
I
wrestle
with
that.
I
wrestle
with
that
that
framing
and
I'm
curious,
if
that
makes
sense
to
folks
or
what
what
you
think
about
that.
A
I'm
happy
to
jump
in
this
is
jenny,
borden
hi
everybody.
I
was
thinking
about
that
too,
like
that
that
you
know
the
tension
between
like
trying
to
accomplish
something
that
isn't
advising,
but
I
think
to
echo,
I
think,
to
what
you
were
just
saying.
Matthew
is,
I
feel
like
that's
where
our
real
power
is
and
so
like.
A
If
we
want
something
to
happen,
let's
say
in
education:
it's
not
probably
on
us
to
go
out
and
educate
everybody,
although
we
could-
and
I
think
being
ambassadors-
and
you
know
just
always
like
your-
how
your
different
roles
blend
but
think
like
well
how?
What?
What
can
we
ask
the
city
to
do
to
advance
our
goals
and
education,
which
I
think
some
of
these
other
ideas
you
know
or
evaluation
or
use
use
our
power
as
advising
to
to
the
city?
A
E
Well,
jenny,
you
know.
Last
time
I
I
mean
look
at
my
notes
here
we
did
talk
about
the
voc
as
sometimes
being
reactive
but
distinctly
proactive
and
our
proactive
role.
It
feels
like
we
sometimes
are
indeed
advocating
we're
getting
ahead
of
an
issue.
Sometimes
we
are
reacted,
we're
reacting
to
something
thrown
at
us,
but
we
we
sometimes
and
the
more
that
we
think
ahead
and
are
proactive.
I
think,
is
very
good
and
that
blurs
into
advocacy.
But
it's
it's
more
advocacy
in
the
guise
of
we're
advising.
G
To
that
point,
if
I
could
just
jump
in
for
a
second,
I
think
one
one
place
that
kind
of
bridges
that
gap
for
me,
at
least
of,
like
the
advocacy
but
then
also
the
advisement
stuff,
is
like.
Obviously,
we
just
did
like
three
years
worth
of
work
deciding
what
we
want
to
do
for
the
next
10
years
and
we
have
200
different
strategies
and,
like
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
in
there,
it
wasn't
a
fiscally
constrained
plan.
B
C
Dan,
I
like
what
chris
says
and
agree
with
it
in
that
I
think
the
transportation
action
plan
and
looking
at
that
and
really
you
know
doing
a
good
review
of
it-
is
worthwhile
because
there's
a
number
of
things
in
there
that
are
thoughts,
but
there's
no
dates
on
there's
no
timing
on
it.
It's
and
you
know
each
year
that
we
build
a
bike
facility
that
doesn't
include
what's
in
the
transportation
action
plan,
there's
a
chance
it's
getting
dated,
and
I
think
that
I
mean
that
that's
not
a
black
and
white
issue.
C
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
gray
in
there.
I
just
see
that
I
seem
to
feel
that
there's
a
there
are
projects
being
proposed
now,
which
falls
short
of
the
transportation
action
plan,
and
a
person
can
point
out
that.
Well,
we
haven't
gotten
to
that
yet
in
the
transportation
action
plan,
so
I
think,
pushing
on
the
transportation
action
plan
and
seeing
where
we
can
get
some
of
those
things
that
are
near
and
dear
to
our
hearts.
B
As
a
new
member
of
the
bac,
I
I
struggle
with,
like
you
know,
we
had
a
little
bit
of
orientation
in
the
sense,
but
I
wonder
like
how
we
can
get
people
up
to
speed,
to
understand
our
role
within
the
city
and
how
the
process
moves
forward,
because
I'm
not
always
clearly,
like
you
know,
matthew,
said
yeah.
B
We
advise
the
city
council,
but
you
know
when
I
spoke
to
my
council
member
he's
like
oh
yeah,
you
can
just
do
what
you
want
and
if
you
you
know
want
to
check
in
you
can
so
it's
like
very
independent,
and
I
know
a
lot
of
the
things.
How
we
advise
is
like
sending
a
resolution,
but
I
don't
really
understand
like
what
happens
to
that.
Then
like
it's
like
okay,
we
sent
it
off
and
they
will
read
it
someday,
but
we
don't
have
like
that
back
and
forth.
B
So
I'm
not
really
clear
on
how
and
if
that's
effective
and
like
what
other
ways
we
can
be
advising
the
city
council
and
the
mayor
any
thoughts
on
that
city,
staff
or
past
members.
F
Learn
but
before
we
do
that
heather,
I
I
do
appreciate
the
feedback
on
the
orientation
free,
and
I
definitely
want
to
continue
to
think
about
that
and
like
how
we
can
like
maybe
like
connect
those
dots
and-
and
I
will
say
like
I,
I've
always
said,
and
I
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
say
again
like
like.
I
do
think
those
resolutions
are
one
of
the
most
important
functions
of
the
bac
and
that
gets
to
the
counselors
and
gets
to
the
project
managers.
F
Now
the
degree
to
which
that
ends
up
like
influencing
the
decisions
is
is
like
debatable
and
something
you
can
always
talk
about,
but
yeah.
I
guess
I
don't
want
to
undersell
that
I
think
that's
such
an
important
part
of
the
the
bac.
E
B
F
Okay,
if
I
may
respond
that
that
is
I
also
like
that
idea.
It's
something
that
has
been
brought
up
in
the
past.
I
think
chris
I'll
just
look
at
you.
Maybe
we
can
like
continue
to
think
about
that.
It
is
sometimes
challenging
to
track
a
project
over
the
over
the
time
frame,
because,
usually
you
know
a
lot
happens
after
you
see
it
from
like.
F
You
know
like
the
final
design
process
and
construction,
and
like
so
I
mean
there's
a
tracking
thing
that
I
think
we
would
need
to
develop,
and
maybe
that
is
something
we.
C
Yeah,
I
think
that
relationships
with
council
members
are
are
important
and
they're
gonna
be
different
for
each
of
us
and,
but
I
think,
figuring
out
ways
to
to
nurture
that
are
are
really
really
important
to
do.
I
think
that
you
know
it's
not
like
you've
got
to
be
a
monk.
You
don't
need
to
be
a
constant
in
a
council
member's
pocket,
but
letting
them
know
that
you're
aware
of
a
situation
in
the
reward.
What
are
their,
what
other
bike
goals?
Biking
goals?
C
In
their
ward,
I
mean
they're
going
to
react
to
their
ward
first
or
it's
a
section
they're
going
to
react
to,
and
so
I
think,
understanding
some
of
some
of
the
concerns
about
biking
in
in
your
ward
being
able
to
create
a
relationship.
There
are
really
really
really
important
and
being
able
to
track
a
project
that
is
going
through
the
war
and
being
able
to
I
like
to
say
you
know
it
might
be
complementary
notes
about.
You
know
we
looked
at
this
and.
C
At
the
bac,
it
looks
really
really
promising
I'd
really
like
to
see
if
we
could
some
a
few
things
to
keep
our
eyes
on
our
such
and
such,
and
I
don't
think
that
that
gets
developed
overnight.
I
think
it
takes
trust
in
a
long
time,
but
I
think
being
able
to
find
ways
to
strengthen
relationships
will
be
helpful
for
biking
thanks.
G
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to-
I
guess,
ditto,
some
of
the
stuff
that
that
matthew
said
with
the
resolutions
and
add
a
lit
a
little
bit
onto
so.
I
think
that's
definitely
that's
something
that
we
can.
G
G
It
may
even
just
be
on
like
more
on
that
complex
side,
but,
but
I
don't
know
maybe
not,
and
there
was
something
else
that
I
wanted
to
respond
to.
Oh
yeah,
the
idea
of
like
I
don't
know
how
you
I
don't
remember
how
you
phrased
it
brie.
But
basically
you
said
something
about
like
sending
a
resolution
out
to
counseling
like
they're,
not
being
any
back
and
forth
and
I'll
just
be
frank
of
like
the
way.
G
I
think
of
it,
like
this
committee
only
has
as
much
power
as
it
has,
and
the
power
it
doesn't
have
is
to
order
either
city,
council
or
public
works
or
anyone
else
to
do
anything,
including
even
respond
to
a
resolution,
and
so
like.
I.
I
think
there
are
ways
to
to
like
build
that
rapport,
but
but
I
don't
know
that
it's
something
that
like
to
answer
what
I
think
was
maybe
part
of
your
question
like
that's
not
built
into
the
process
or
like
the
organizational
framework
of
which
this
committee
sits
in
so
like.
G
In
order
to
achieve
that,
I
I
think,
like
that's
kind
of
like
an
outside
thing
of,
like
figuring
out
how
to
like
build
some
of
those
relationships
and
where
and
when
to
do
resolution
and
like
being
like
strategic
about
when
a
resolution
might
be
heard
more
and
so
like.
That's
when
you
put
a
lot
into
it
and
like
everyone
sends
it
out
to
their
council
member
or
something
like
that.
I
don't
know,
but
just
just
a
couple.
Thoughts.
D
D
Maybe
we
can
do
some
of
this,
maybe
jenny
you
can
start
reading,
since
your
name
is
in
the
first
one.
D
You
just
do
some
popcorn
reading
through
these
and
the
motivation
for
this
question
was
to
figure
out
where,
where
do
we
not
know
things
that
would
maybe
advance
our
work
or
or
help
us
understand
what
to
do
or
learn
more
about
this
work?
So.
A
Sure
yeah,
I'm
happy
to
read
jenny
borden
has
volunteered
to
present
on
the
work
of
mps.
Sometime
this
summer,
we've
had
a
past
presentation
from
twin
cities:
adaptive
cycling,
which
was
helpful
in
understanding
intersections
around
accessibility
and
biking
I'll
keep
noodling
on
this
question
as
well.
A
It
would
be
great
to
invite
the
public
to
here,
too,
and
not
just
promote
through
the
regular
email
blast
to
people
who
already
subscribed
to
bac
notifications,
get
a
social
media
campaign
going.
Zoom
teams
is
a
great
way
to
reach
folks,
who
might
not
otherwise
want
to
travel
to
a
meeting
or
don't
have
time.
A
It's
also
a
good
way
to
record
and
send
out
those
presentations
afterwards.
How
does
minneapolis
public
works,
weigh
the
value
of
human
life
and
health
when
deciding
on
design
trade-offs
that
prioritize
motor
vehicle
capacity
speed
over
safety?
What
is
the
calculation
and
I'll
pause
there,
and
let
somebody
else
get
a
turn.
C
C
C
Next
point
is
continue
to
bring
in
the
ways
that
other
cities
address
their
bicycle
work
and
the
solutions
that
they
have
used.
The
next
next
and
final
point
is:
I
would
like
to
just
have
a
better
understanding
on
how
changes
are
made
by
the
city
and
how
the
bac
can
best
influence
it
with
our
priorities.
A
Of
course
I
even
before
I
was
our
rep,
it
used
to
be
roy
hallinger,
a
beloved
member
of
this
committee,
who
passed
away.
I
would
come.
I
would
come
now
and
then
just
to
give
a
update
so
yeah
anytime.
I'm
happy.
B
To
yeah
it
sounds
like
you
know,
we
all
have
a
lot
to
learn
and
it's
really
great
that
people
want
to
learn
more
to
be
more
effective.
As
a
committee
yeah,
it's
something
for
me.
I
it
is
hard
to
understand
like
what
holes
there
are
in
my
that
would
be
helpful
because
I
just
don't
know
what
is
really
out
there.
So
I
mean
all
of
the
presentations
that
the
city
have
done
since
I
joined
have
like
added
to
that.
B
So
I
hope,
as
a
committee
like
having
these
discussions,
we
can
work
with
chris
to
bring
more
regular
presentation.
That's
not
reactive,
but
in
a
learning
for
me.
G
Yeah,
I
just
had
an
idea
kind
of
based
on
what
you
were
saying
and
just
looking
at
some
of
this
stuff
is,
I
we
could
potentially
kind
of
like
crowdsource
a
list
of
what
people
want
to
learn
about,
maybe
of
which
this
is,
and
we
just
like
pulled
from
this
or
something.
But
I
I
think
we
could
even
more
specifically
ask
that
and
I'm
just
thinking
thinking
about
like
today.
I
don't
I
don't
wanna.
G
B
Yeah
I
like
that
matthew.
F
Yeah
just
to
build,
I'm
I'm
very
excited
about
this
particular
feedback
and
topic,
and
I
think
especially
because
of
how
many
new
people
there
are.
I
think
this
is
a
fun
way
to
like
you
know
both
like
I
guess,
build
up
topics,
but
also
like
understand
the
power
that
we
have
on
the
committee
and
so
like,
for
example,
jesse
thornson.
F
I
don't
think
he's
on
the
call
today,
but
the
mndot
rep
he's
gonna
he's
gonna
kind
of
talk
to
the
group
about
the
metcd
later,
based
on
some
of
the
work
that
he's.
E
D
F
Know
I
just
see
in
my
in
my
screen.
You
know
your
your
career
at
mpca,
I
mean
there's
active
transportation,
knowledge
you
could
probably
drop
on
the
group
too.
You
know
I
mean
like
like
so
I
think
I
agree
with
chris
about
like
let's
find
agenda
items
that
are
both
meaningful
and
and
like
desired
by
the
committee
and
and
then
see
if
we
can
like
identify
people
to
jump
on
the
agenda
and
I
think
that's
just
a
great
model
yeah
someone
said
we
have
done
that
in
the
past.
So
why
not?
Do
it
more?
B
Oh
yeah-
and
I
you
know-
maybe
we
can
reframe
it
and
not
say
presentation
right
like
it
could
be
more
like
a
ted
talk
style
right
like
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
formal
sort
of
thing
if
people
get
kind
of
stressed
with
like
additional
work,
but
there
was
someone
who
said
they
wanted
homework
so
that
person
might
want
to
do
presentation
but
yeah.
I
love
that
idea
and
it'll
be
great.
B
Also
like
just
to
know
other
committee
members-
and
you
know
everyone
can
share
insight
based
on
their
lived
experience
or
and
or
their
award
or
like
anything
that
they're
really
passionate
about
for
biking
and
how
chris
said,
like
you
could
research
something
and
maybe
that's
how
we
like
break
up
tap.
You
know
like
it's
a
lot
for
like
one
person
to
be
like
okay.
This
is
all
of
this
and
we
have
to
learn
and
read
it
all
but
yeah.
This
is
right.
F
So
I
might
say
one
other
thing
on
sort
of
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum
is
one
of
the
harder
things
I
think
is
like
is
if
there's,
if
there's
something
going
on
at
the
city,
that's
not
really
in
like
our
wheelhouse,
and
I
say
ours
is
like
maybe
me
milson,
cress
or
even
like
my
team,
that
that
has
been
challenging,
and
so
it's
like
it's
kind
of
hard
to
just
like
get
somebody
to
come.
Talk
to
sorry,
there's
a
car
one.
F
Second,
oh
yeah,
so
I
guess
that's
just
the
alternative
to
what
I
think
we're
talking
about
is
like.
It
is
sometimes
hard
to
just
like
get
somebody
from
the
city
to
come.
Talk
on
an
issue
unless
it's
like
a
capital,
p
policy
or
a
project.
B
Yeah
that
makes
sense
you're
like
hey.
I
want
this
council
member
to
come
and
talk
to
us,
and
that
would
be
a
challenge.
Actually
so
great
heather,
I
forget,
is
there
one
more
slide.
D
There's
sort
of
one
more
slide,
but
it's
the
question
where
we
asked
if
people
were
gonna
come
to
these
meetings
in
the
future,
where
nine
people
said
yes
as
often
as
possible,
and
three
people
said
that
that
would
be
dependent
on
whether
the
agenda
items
were
relevant
to
them
and
then
some
comments
about
how
much
people
appreciated
filling
out
surveys,
which
is
heartening
and
interesting,
and
we
do
really
appreciate
how
much
effort
and
energy
folks
put
into
answering
these
questions,
because
it's
been
really
helpful
to
get
a
feel
for
kind
of
how
to
set
up
the
committee,
while
we're
kind
of
stepping
into
this
whole
leadership
role
and
moving
into
this
new
year.
D
B
Awesome
yeah,
I
think,
going
back
to
the
learning
part
as
well
of
like
how
I
think
it.
You
know
when
you
look
at
the
agenda
and
it's
just
like
one
thing,
and
I
think
that's
probably
one
of
the
reasons
why,
where
people
are
like
okay
well,
should
I
prioritize
going
to
this
optional
subcommittee
meeting
right,
and
so
I
think
other
chris
and
I
you
know
we
can
really
with
this
feedback,
and
this
survey
start
narrowing
down
topics
for
folks
and
then
probably
send
out.
B
Apparently
people
like
surveys,
I
guess,
but
like
just
kind
of
like
what
people
are
willing
to
share
and
bring
as
an
individual
or
like
specific
questions.
They
really
want
to
know.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
too.
So
I
think,
together
with
at
least
the
survey,
we
can
have
that
as
the
jumping
off
start
to
kind
of
like
program,
our
sub
committee
agendas.
B
So
at
least
you
know
we
can
have
one
or
two
teed
up
depending
on
how
busy
this
meeting
is
it's
so
funny.
It's
like
the
first
meetings
were
like
frantic
and
we
couldn't
fit
anything
in,
and
now
we
have
more
time
to
discuss.
So
it's
kind
of
a
whole
bunch
of
different
ways
to
do
it.
E
E
That
comes
as
as
us
as
reactive,
but
this
process
of
us
going
through
the
survey,
and
then
this
two-session
discussion
makes
me
think
that
really
we
could,
as
committee
members
and
and
as
staff
to
the
committee
once
a
year,
have
a
have
a
sort
of
have
a
routine
a
process
where
we,
each
of
us,
each
of
us,
say
sort
of
think
ahead
to
what
proactive
thing
policy
programming
do
does
do
we
want
to
achieve
in
the
next
12
months
since,
and
so
it
might
be
interesting
to
hear
from
each
member
what
you
know.
E
If
there's
one
thing,
if
there's
one
thing
you
could
do,
the
committee
could
do
in
a
proactive
five
years.
You
know
content
area.
There's
one
thing
we
could
do
over
the
next
two
months.
You
know
what
would
each
committee
member
want
that
to
be
and
that
that
could
help
at
least
have
us
in
our?
We
could
have
a
bucket
of
proactive
things
to
work
on
to
put
on
the
agenda
as
time
allows
because
we
know
the
reactive
stuff.
We
need
to
react
to,
and
city
staff.
You
know
obviously
kristen
and
matthew.
G
G
G
F
For
like
five
years,
all
of
it
was
like:
when
are
we
updating
access?
When
are
we
updating
access?
We
got
update
access
right
and
now
we
have
tap
division
zero.
We
have
complete
series
policy,
we
have,
you
know
all
the
stuff
and
it's
like,
so
it
is
sort
of
a
it's
just,
a
different
time
I
think
like.
D
F
B
So
yeah
I
mean
chris
and
like
matthew
like
I
don't
know
if
you
filled
up
the
survey
because
it
was
anonymous
if
you
wanted
to
be
but
yeah,
I
think,
as
matthew
said
like,
if
you
are
thinking
about
things
in
a
different
way,
how
to
you
know
present
those
changes
like
that's
really
helpful,
to
know
that
you
know
it's
like
you,
don't
have
to
fight
for
certain
things
anymore,
so
like
what
do
we
have
to
fight
for
now
and
how
your
department
is
like,
maybe
reframing
or
repositioning
strategies
to
get
things
done
as
well.
F
I
appreciate
what
you
just
said
brie
and
I
think
I'm
understanding
it
right
and
I'll
say
I
I
am
all
about
using
the
bac
pac
in
a
way.
That's
that's
like
back
and
forth,
like
letting
you
know
what's
coming
up
like
what's
important
like
what
would
be
helpful,
you
know
so
yeah
I,
if
that's
kind
of
I
guess
I'll,
just
agree
with
that.
Yeah.
B
Thanks
yeah,
because
I
mean
we
haven't
at
least
on
the
full
committee
had
time
to
talk
like
this.
I
don't
think
so.
It's
moral,
you
know,
like
bam,
bam,
information
resolution
and
move
forward,
but
I
like
knowing
where
the
staff's
thought
process
is
and
really
getting
a
better
reflection
of
what's
happening
internally.
B
So
then
I
have
a
better
idea
on
what
will
possibly
work
and
who
to
contact
to
move
things
forward,
which
I'm
still
mudding.
B
Through
anything
else
about
maybe
last
meeting
or
anything
that
we
spoke
about
today,
okay,
well
thanks
everyone,
I
know
feather,
has
been
15
minutes,
so
we
can
start
on
what
announcements
folks
have
cadence
reached
out
to
me,
and
they
have
one
that
I
will
present
and
it
looks
like.
Chris
has
his
hand
up
go
for
it.
G
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
heads
up
that
next
month,
at
this
committee
there
will
be
an
evaluation
item
that
comes
forward
and
I
think
dan
you
might
like
this
one
other
folks
as
well,
but
just
it
kind
of
fits
in
with
something
that
you've
brought
up
a
lot
before,
which
is
evaluating
our
projects
after
the
fact
and
like
going
back
and
being
like
okay
did
this
work
or
not?
It's
not
like
full
scale.
Like
did
this
whole
project
work
out?
G
Well,
it's
a
very
specific
element
of
it
but,
like
I
think
these
conversations
will
kind
of
help
the
bac
get
into
the
evaluation
world
that
we're
exploring
now
so
anyways
hennepin
avenue
downtown
they
put
in
something
like
a
tactile
strip
between
the
pedestrian
realm
and
the
bikeway.
G
So
it's
meant
to
like
help
folks,
who
can't
see,
have
something
to
detect,
and
basically
it's
about
that,
but
they
went
to
the
the
pac
and
there
wasn't
a
ton
of
feedback,
because
folks
hadn't
actually
seen
it
out
in
the
real
world.
So
I
just
want
to
prompt
that
if
you
can
in
the
next
month
and
are
comfortable
getting
downtown
all
that
stuff,
if
you're
able
to
go
and
take
a
look
at
that,
then
it
might
help
have
a
little
more
informed
feedback
for
that
item.
But.
B
You
know
I'm
actually
getting
more
confident
biking
around
again,
so
if
I
I
can
work
on
organizing
something
if
people
want
to
get
together
if
they
feel
safe
to
do
so,
especially
if
it's
outside
and
it's
nice
and
people
are
masks,
I
would
be
comfortable
with
that
and
more
and.
B
Vaccinated
so
yay,
so
I
can
put
that
onto
my
to-do
list
and
I'll
check
in
with
you
chris
to
be
like
what
is
this
and
where
is
it?
I
need
a
google
map.
G
G
G
H
Hey
everybody,
sorry
I
was
late.
I
had
another
meeting
that
ran
until
4
30,
so
I
missed
most
of
the
discussion,
but
wanted
to
one
remind
folks
that
if
we
do
get
together
in
their
quorum
of
members,
we
cannot
discuss
business.
H
This
is
the
kind
of
boring
thing
that
chris
would
go
over
in
the
open
meeting
laws,
presentation
that
we
have
now
kicked
down
the
road
for
two
months,
so
I
will
be
the
boring
governance
person
and
remind
us
of
that,
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
let
folks
know
in
case
you
haven't
seen
it
that
there
is
a
petition
around
hennepin
avenue
south.
H
I
can
also
send
out
the
link
in
support
of
some
of
the
same
principles
that
we
passed
a
resolution
about
very
similar
to
the
the
letter
that
went
around
if
folks
saw
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
give
folks
a
heads
up
that
I
will
share
out
the
link
to
that
as
well.
There's
some.
There
continues
to
be,
as
we
discussed
our
last
meeting,
some
coordinated
opposition
to
bike
lanes
on
hennepin
avenue
south.
So
thank
you.
E
E
H
H
H
H
F
I
have
an
update
on
the
four
that
was
just
the
number
that
was
picked
because
they
have
to
have
some
kind
of
quorum,
but
you
know
the
idea
that
the
subcommittee
doesn't
really
have
a
quorum
right
because
it's
like
the
intent
is
like.
We
ask
the
membership
to
kind
of
pick
one
or
the
other,
so
it
would
be
like
unrealistic
to
have
the
real
quorum.
So
I
probably
should
have
just
thought
to
give
that
update
anyway,
since
that
decision
was
made
like
I
don't
know
this
week.
B
H
G
G
C
Sorry
about
that.
This
is
the
time
for
updates
right,
yep,
okay,
I
just
fyi
this
week.
I
think.
Actually,
last
night
the
lights
were
turned
on
on
the
26th
avenue
north
river
overlook,
and
that
is
somewhat
of
a
big
deal.
It
is
the
the.
E
C
Terminus
to
the
26th
avenue
trail
and
the
great
northern
greenway
and
it
passes
through
a
very
kind
of
barren
section,
which
is
the
94
overpass,
which
has
been
talked
about
on
dowling,
but
there's
an
attempt
to
connect
north
minneapolis
and
it's
a
precursor
of
something
on
the
ground
to
the
upper
harbor
terminal
and
the
next
phase
in
that
project
is:
is
the
nav
dollars
to
begin
design
work
to
connect
with
a
trail,
the
river
overlooked
to
holy
olsen
park,
which
is
west
river
road?
C
A
Oh
just
when
dan
was
talking,
I
just
have
to
share
what
a
great
day
I
had.
As
you
know,
the
bike
fleets
are
out
they're
actually
in
their
second
round
of
school,
so
three
schools
already
we
have
three
traveling
bike
fleets
towards
our
goal
of
universal
bike:
education
for
fourth
and
fifth
grade
with
those
three
fleets
we
can
get
to
about
half
the
fourth
and
fifth
graders
in
mps.
A
Kids
just
went
back
to
school
in
february,
we're
in
distance
learning.
It's
all
crazy,
but
the
word
biking
is
one
of
the
actual
best
things
that
they
can
do
right
now.
So
I
was
with
nelly
stone
johnson.
It
was
only
15
kids
because
of
distance
learning.
It
was
a
smaller
class.
We
took
that
beautiful
26.
That
dan
was
talking
about
to
theater
worth
it's,
it's
been
so
long,
so
it's
just
so
fun
and
it
just
it's
such
a
powerful
experience.
I
think
kids
didn't
know
how
to
bike.
A
Before
I
had
one
kid
tell
me
in
third
grade,
she
did
get
to
go
and
she's
been
working
really
hard
to
be
able
to
go,
but
they
learn
that
that
teacher
is
awesome.
So
they
learn
all
the
stuff
like
how
to
do
it
safely
and
how
to
kind
of
own
the
road
as
well.
A
But
then
they
also
get
the
joy
of
you
know
the
trails,
I
think,
if
you
don't
know
them
and
haven't
gone
with
someone,
they
can
feel
secret,
even
if
they're
close
to
your
house,
and
so
it's
just
like
in
them
now
like
that.
Can't
you
know
that
joy,
we
all
had
joy
today,
so
it
was
so
fun
and
then
I
was
just
thinking
you
know
talking
about
presenting
dan
actually
does
bike
along
with
our
students.
A
It's
not
something
that
we
can
offer
to
you
right
now,
but
my
personal
dream
is
that
each
of
you
would
bike
along
with
a
group,
especially
in
your
ward,
and
then
you
know
it
would
be
a
great
help,
but
it
would
also
just
like
let
you
see
the
streets
and
biking
in
a
whole
another
way.
So
I
had
a
great
day.
A
B
Awesome
thanks
jenny
cool.
Well,
I
will
bring
up
what
cadence
sent
me
I'll,
maybe
pull
it
up,
so
this
is
oh.
B
B
I'm
wondering
if
the
subcommittee
could
talk
about
the
38th
in
chicago
resolution
and
reframe
as
an
ask
to
public
works
to
present
to
both
subcommittees
at
the
5e.
They
could
talk
about
the
engagement
process
so
far
and
how
they
intend
for
that
to
be
equitable
and
then
at
the
engineering
subcommittee
they
could
talk
more
through
the
design.
B
E
E
B
Christmas
matthew,
do
you
know
who's
running
that
and
does
it
make
sense
for
that?
The
only
thing
that
I
would
question
is
like:
is
it
worth
to
split
up
with
both
subcommittees
or
have
it
to
the
full
committee
in
one
presentation,
thanks.
G
F
Give
it
a
try.
Let
me
know
if
you
can
hear
me,
here's
what
I
would
say
I
I
will.
I
think
it's
definitely
appropriate
and
within
your
rights
to
ask
for
that,
and
we
can
pass
that
along
to
our
colleagues
in
public
works.
I
don't
know
if
they
will
agree
and
come
present
on
that
and
I'll
just
I'll
just
need
to
like
talk
to
them
about
it,
and
I
can
let
you
know,
but
that's
like
maybe
maybe
the
best
I
can
do
right
now.
F
I
guess
chosen
to
come
to
the
committees
on
that
topic
at
this
time,
so
I
I
can
just
like
check
with
them
and
see
what
they
think
and
part
of
it.
I
I
guess
I
just
have
to
say
is
like
it's
not
a
typical
public
works
project.
F
B
Thanks
matthew,
yeah
that
will
be
good
looking
forward
to
what
you
hear
back
and
you
know,
there's
several
choices.
Whatever
folks
are
most
comfortable
with,
if
comfortable
at
all,.
B
Cool
yeah
I
mean
just
to
build
off
of
you,
know
our
last
discussion
about
george
wood
square
again,
to
reiterate,
like
it's
nothing
new
that,
like
I
think
of
I
think
of
jane
jacobs
right,
I
don't
know
how
many
people
know
about
jane
jacobs.
She
was
a
new
york
white
woman
who,
when
oh
sorry,
I
supposed
to
feed
my
back,
is
you
know
who
took
on
the
city
because,
oh
I
forget
his
name
wanted
to
put
a
highway
through
washington
square,
and
so
she
got
all.
B
I
saw
a
documentary,
I
don't
remember
all
of
it,
but
like
all
the
moms
together
and
they
protested
and
washington
square
was
saved
right.
And
so,
if
you
haven't
been
to
washington
square,
it
has
like
archduke
triumph
thing
in
a
fountain
and
there's
just
like
lots
of
benches
and
activities
and
it's
essentially
a
square.
That's
a
park
in
new
york
city,
and
so
it's
just
interesting
in
my
thought
process
of
that
of
like
okay.
Well,
where
did
they
put
that
highway?
B
Then
right
and
most
likely
they
put
that
highway
in
a
black
and
brown
community
that
didn't
have
the
leeway
of
jane
jacobs,
either
time
or
education,
maybe
or
able
to
like
navigate
the
city
processes.
So
I
think
about
this,
and
we
know
around
the
country.
Highway
is
decimated,
interstates
decimated
black
and
brown
communities
everywhere
and
putting
that
idea
of
washington
square
with
george
floyd
square,
just
like
resonated
with
me
in
the
sense
of
like
okay.
Why
is
george
floyd
square
controversial?
B
You
know
it
just
seems
like
a
lot
of
transportation
planners
look
up
to
jane
jacobs,
and
so
I
wanted
to
kind
of
use
that
reference
point
of
like
how
question
like
how
is
this
different
right
and
yeah?
B
I
guess
that's
my
two
sense
of
just
kind
of
framing
the
square
in
a
light
that,
like
I,
don't
feel
like
it's
any
different
than
like
jane
jacobs,
wanting
her
voice
to
be
heard
and
her
neighborhood
and
community
to
be
created
in
the
way
that
she
and
the
other
advocates
that
were,
along
with
her,
wanted
to
see
their
community
and
neighborhood
thrive.
So,
okay,
thanks.
E
The
book
the
book,
I'm
I'm
thinking.
D
E
About
jane
jacobs
and
I'm
forgetting
who
she
was
sort
of
fighting
against,
is
the
power
broker
thick.
You
know
massive
massive
book
and
I
one
of
the
images
that
stands
out
to
me
and
I've
experienced
is
as
you
as
you
go
out
of
the
boroughs
or
out
of
manhattan
through
brooklyn
to
get
to
maybe
it's
the
southern
state
parkway
to
get
to
like
jones
beach.
E
The
the
the
overpasses
were
built
curved
such
that
it
was
really
difficult
or
maybe
impossible,
for
buses,
as
in
city
buses,
carrying
people
who
didn't
have
cars,
you
couldn't
get
to
jones
beach
in
the
normal
mass
transit
bus,
because,
what's
his
name,
I
forget
had
designed
these
and
they're
beautiful,
but
it
was
clearly
architecture
used
in
racist
ways
or
at
least
anti-poor
ways.
G
B
I
couldn't
remember
either
sign
that
we
can't
remember
him
anymore,
so
yeah,
I
think
oh
jenny
posted
the
documentary.
Maybe
let's
see
I
saw
it
at
the
lagoon
in
uptown
way
when
we
could
see
movies
so
yeah.
I
think
this
seems
in
the
right
time
frame.
It's
citizen,
jane
battle
for
the
city
yeah.
B
It
was
interesting,
I
mean
for
me,
you
know,
bypassed
a
lot
of
important
things
about
new
york
city
happening
at
the
time,
but
focused
on
jane
jacobs,
and
I
don't
know
if
you
don't
know,
but
I'm
not
a
fan
of
ginger.
B
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
fine
with
what
she
did,
but
whatever,
let's
see
anything
else,
folks
that
they
want
to
bring.
B
Up
cool
so
whoa
we
will
be
done
and
then
matthew
can
finish
his
walk
and
maybe
I'll
go
for
a
walk.
So
well
thanks.
Everyone
attending
on
this
another
beautiful
day,
which
I
hope
that
this
is
like.
Oh
thanks
phil,
he
just
did
the
power
broker
about
robert
moses
in
the
chat
as
well
so
yeah.
I
will
follow
up
with
heather
and
chris
about
kind
of
narrowing.
B
Some
topics
down
for
folks
to
talk
during
the
5e
committee
then
also
see
about
maybe
a
bike:
tour,
a
fun
non-business
bike,
tour
of
a
facility
with
chris
and
matthew,
if
possible
and
yeah,
I'm
looking
forward
to
that.
So
thanks
again,
everyone.