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A
Her
phone
and
give
their
vote
and
then
turn
their
mic
back
off
before
we
officially
begin
tonight's
meeting,
I'd
like
to
first
announce
that
the
city
will
be
recording
this
evening's
meeting
and
the
video
will
be
posted
to
the
city's
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
public
access
and
transparency
and
we'll
start
with
the
recording
now
good
evening.
Thanks
all
for
joining
to
tonight
for
this
community
environmental
advisory
committee
meeting,
my
name
is
anna
johnson
and
I'm
vice
chair
of
seak
I'll
be
facilitating
the
meeting
tonight.
A
Our
chair,
aaron
niehoff,
is
traveling
back
from
visiting
our
sister,
who
just
recently
had
a
new
baby.
I'd
like
to
start
by
noting
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
.021,
due
to
the
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
A
Please
keep
yourself
muted
at
all
times
that
you're,
not
speaking,
and
to
keep
the
meeting
moving
along
and
on
schedule.
Please
wait
your
turn
to
speak
and
hold
questions
until
the
end
of
each
speaker's
presentation.
A
Please
remember
that
there
is
a
chat
function,
but
please
remember
that
those
who
are
calling
in
by
phone
cannot
see
the
chat
and
everything
typed
in
the
chat
will
be
posted
in
the
public
meeting
minutes
I'll
do
my
best
to
verbally
communicate
relevant
information
that
appears
in
the
chat,
but
would
also
encourage
folks
to
share
their
share
pertinent
information
verbally,
rather
than
relying
on
the
chat
for
participants
on
the
phone
press
pound.
Six
to
turn
your
microphone
on
and
off
to
make
a
comment
or
question.
A
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
ask
him
to
take
the
to
call
the
role,
so
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum
council
members
when
kim
calls.
Your
name,
please
say
present,
but
also
try
to
introduce
yourself
briefly
with
your
organization
affiliation,
as
applicable,
we'd
like
to
try
something
new
tonight
and
ask
everyone
to
share
one
word
or
a
few
words
to
describe
how
you're
feeling
today
and
where
you're
at
for
any
community
members
on
the
call
we'll
provide
an
opportunity
for
you
to
introduce
yourself
after
the
roll
call
is
complete.
C
D
I
am
present,
and
I'm
also
feeling
good
I'm
glad
the
wildfire
smoke
is
is
not
overwhelming
these
days
and
it
gave
us
a
taste
of
what
it's
like
to
live
in
in
some
places
that
have
a
lot
worse
air
quality
much
more
frequently
than
we
do
so.
B
Thank
you,
tess
stornfeld,.
E
Presents
tess
she
her
probably
not
very
original
today,
but
it
is
really
hot
and
again,
maybe
not
quite
as
unusual
for
august,
but
a
taste
of
things
to
come.
I
am
afraid.
G
I'm
matthew,
I
am
feeling
worried,
but
also
validated
by
the
ipcc
report.
I
Hi
lauren
ciac
member,
she
her
pronouns.
I
am
feeling
electric
because
I
just
had
some
electric
work
done
the
past
few
days
and
I
have
some
new
outlets
and
light
switches,
which
is
nice.
B
Great,
were
you:
were
you
dealing
with
some
of
the
old
electrical
wiring
and
things
like
that.
B
I
B
Awesome,
thank
you
yeah.
You
know
that's
actually
in
part
of
legislation
that
there's
quite
a
bit
of
money
to
upgrade
knob
and
tube
wiring
in
older
houses
in
order
to
help
do
weatherization
so
and
actually
the
utilities
in
the
new
eco
act
are
required
to
provide
a
funding
source
with
their
conservation
improvement
program
that
will
be
able
to
overcome
those
kind
of
barriers
like
navi,
tube,
wiring
or
uninsulated
crawl
spaces
and,
and
things
like
that.
Sorry,
we're
in
sorry
got
off
the
track.
There
divine
islam.
A
L
Health
professionals
for
a
healthy
climate
and
various
other
affiliations
feeling
a
kind
of
overwhelmed
and
mental
fatigue,
probably
just
because
a
lot
of
things
are
going
on
and
but
I
still
hope
to
be
helpful
during
today's
meeting.
So.
B
Fantastic,
thank
you
sorry
to
hear
feeling
fatigued.
I
know
hot
weather
sometimes
makes
you
feel
a
little
tired,
and
then
you
get
all
this
stuff
going
on
the
ipcc
and
all
this
things
sort
of
hanging
over
your
head.
That's
like
okay,
what
do
we
need
to
do?
What
do
we
need
to
do?
You
know
I
know
barbara
lundy
said
she
wasn't
able
to
make
it.
She
we
talked
earlier
today,
so
nick
minderman.
M
I'm
here
and
feeling
very
busy,
usually
august
is
a
slow
time
for
me,
but
this
year
lots
of
lots
going
on.
B
All
right,
jacqueline,
cepeda.
N
Hi,
I'm
jacqueline,
you
say
them
pronouns,
I'm
with
the
minnesota
mycological
society
and
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
with
a
new
collective
of
north
and
I'm
feeling
grateful.
B
Thank
you
and
I'll
just
call
out
aaron
in
case
we're
just
sending
out
some
good
vibes
if
she's
she's,
landing
literally
in
right
around
our
sometime
during
our
meeting,
but
anyway
our
our
chair
anna.
We
have
11
members
present,
so
we
do
have
a
quorum
to
proceed
with
the
meeting.
B
M
B
So
are
there
any
folks
joining
us?
I
know
there's
at
least
one
person
that's
coming
in
from
a
phone
call.
Would
you
care
to
press
pound
six
and
identify
yourself
and
what's
how
you're
feeling
today.
Q
Hey
everybody,
I'm
gonna
assume
this
is
me
just
because
I
am
on
the
phone.
This.
Q
Olson
with
the
city
of
minneapolis
sustainability,
I
use
he
him
pronouns
calling
in
today,
specifically
in
regards
to
the
conversation
around
sustainable
building.
O
Q
B
Anyway,
anna's
had
a
little
difficulty
on
the
app
or
something
with
the
teams.
Here
I
know
we're
all
fighting
technology
and
please
I'm
gonna,
ask
for
forgiveness
right
now,
because
I'm
not
then
the
technology
stuff.
I
seem
to
always
run
into
something
at
some
meeting
somewhere,
but.
A
I
am
back
on
temporarily
on
my
phone
on
my
computer
reboots
and
don't
have
the
script
in
front
of
me.
B
Sure
you
absolutely
yeah,
so
basically
what
we're
looking
for
is
adoption
of
the
agenda
and
the
minutes
from
july
21st.
B
B
So
I
would
propose
to
add
that
to
the
agenda,
so
we're
looking
for
a
motion
to
prove
the
agenda
that
was
sent
out
with
the
update
being
added
sort
of
right
at
the
beginning,
just
to
sort
of
give
the
latest
info
on
where
things
are
at
with
those
projects
and
then
proceed
with
the
remainder
of
the
agenda.
As
it's
detailed
in
the
agenda
that
was
sent
out
and
posted.
O
B
Okay,
max
is
not
here:
indigo
david
liu.
B
N
H
P
P
P
P
F
B
A
Great
thanks
so
much
and
is
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
kim
for
you
to
provide
an
update.
B
Yeah,
so
on
the
hiawatha
project
kind
of
exciting.
Recent
news
here
just
came
out
of
the
policy
and
government
oversight
committee,
the
pogo
committee,
as
it's
referred
to
as
an
acronym
and
on
the
hiawatha
project,
the
it
was
an
interesting
decision,
but
councilmember
cono,
gordon
johnson
and
jenkins,
put
forward
a
staff
direction
that
basically
directs
staff
to
move
forward
with
the
parking
structure
on
the
old
site,
not
the
old
site,
the
existing
site,
not
the
new
site
that
they're
proposing
redevelopment,
but
an
existing
public
works
site.
B
You
know
just
north
of
26th
street,
as
well
as
a
couple
of
other
project
sort
of
smaller
staff
buildings
on
that
site,
so
it
will
sort
of
identify
that
site
and
to
then
also
stop
the
any
kind
of
development
or
demolition
on
the
new
site
and
give
an
opportunity
for
the
neighborhood
to
to
basically
secure
the
site.
B
This
interesting
thing
that
happened
in
it
was
that
the
proposal
by
councilmember
khanna,
which
had
these
sort
of
detailed
lists,
had
a
item
that
was
referred
to
as
2c,
which
was
also
the
proposal
that
went
forward
that
was
presented
last
week
at
the
operational
committee
operating
committee
of
the
city
council,
but
in
other
words,
basically,
what
happened
was
that
council
member
ellis
ellison
abstained
on
one
of
the
items
of
the
councilman
mercano's
motion,
which
was
to
give
exclusive
development
rights
to
the
east
phillips
neighborhood
organization
to
develop
the
farm
proposal
that
they're
talking
about.
B
So
it
has
not
been
determined
what
happens
next,
but
you
know
it
leaves
it
up
in
the
air
that
there
could
be
in
our
request
for
proposals
to
develop
the
site
as
compared
to
sort
of
working
with
the
neighborhood
on
the
proposal.
That's
on
the
table,
so
the
project
at
this
point
within
this
committee
vote,
and
it
will
be
going
to
council
this
friday,
which
it
went.
It
passed
the
the
committee
on
a
six
seven
vote.
Basically,
that
abstention
caused
was
a
no
vote,
so.
B
B
The
decision
was
made,
so
it's
it's
a
bit
up
in
the
air
what's
going
to
happen,
but
right
now,
the
way
it
looks
is
that
everything's
going
to
stop
on
the
city
side
of
things
and
that
will
be
looked
at
for
a
redevelopment
proposal
and
would
take
into
consideration
all
the
community
input
and
develop
a
community
process
to
if
they
did
do
something
with
an
rfp
to
have
a
more
extensive
community
involvement.
B
So
that's
where
that
is
at
on
the
high
on
the
hiawatha
project
and,
like
I
said,
there'll,
be
some
more
decisions
this
friday
at
the
council
meeting
and
with
the
six
seven
vote.
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
there
was
some
maneuvering
on
a
on
a
pre
on
a
modified
on
a
modified
motion
at
the
counts
meeting
happy
to
take
questions
as
far
as
what
we
know
right
now.
I
will
add
one
more
thing:
the
council
did
vote
unanimous,
I
shouldn't
say
unanimously.
B
A
Thanks
so
much
kim
appreciate
you
giving
that
very
timely
update
nick
you
have
your
hand
up.
M
B
Right
now,
there
is
pretty
limited
capacity
to
do
a
stakeholder-led
process
at
property
services,
which
is,
as
you
said,
part
of
finance,
which
is
part
of
the
coordinator's
office
too.
So
it's
a
sort
of
its
own
department.
B
B
I
think,
there's
opportunities
to
do
it
differently,
and
maybe
that
might
be
a
way
to
to
think
about
it
too.
So,
but
it
property
services
is
not
really
staffed
up
in
that
level.
They
take
care
of
buildings.
I
mean
they've
got
a
hundred
plus
union
trades
people
that
do
plumbing
electrical,
that
that
that's
that's
sort
of
the
the
bread
and
butter
of
property
services.
B
A
E
There
we
go
thanks
kim
really
useful
to
get
the
up
to
the
minute.
So
it
sounds
like
the
decision
between
an
eis
or
an
aw
might
not
be
relevant
anymore,
but
does
that
12-1
vote
sort
of
rule
out
the
possibility
of
going
with
an
eis
even
if
they
were
to
switch
back
to
the
public
works
plan?.
B
The
the
the
recommendation
that
was
made
by
the
stack
recommendation-
it
wasn't
explicit
in
the
request
for
council
action,
but
it
is
in
the
eaw
recommendations,
so
accepting
the
eaw
would
accept
the
fact
that
there
is
no
justification
or
reason
to
move
forward
with
an
eis
so
effectively.
Yes,
the
12-1
vote
eliminates
an
eis.
B
If
it's
a
new
project,
though
hillary
devorek
was
very
clear
about
this.
This
is
specific
to
this
project.
Anything
else
that's
developed
on
this
site
would
require
an
eawu,
and,
quite
honestly,
I
would
assume
that
the
new,
if,
if
the
epni
project
was
selected
or
that
became
it,
I
would
assume
they
would
go
through
an
eaw
process
because
of
course
they
called
for
that
before
as
a
way
to
demonstrate
the
environmental
attributes
and
additions
they
would
be
making
to
the
neighborhood.
So
it's
it's
not
necessarily
always
negative.
B
A
Any
other
questions
discussion,
and
so
it
sounds
like
I
was
watching
the
the
the
meeting
as
well
too.
So
my
impression
was
that
there
there
will
be
more
opportunities,
going
forward
kind
of
to
participate
in
in
a
in
a
process
and
that
there's
yeah
there's
just
it's
really
not
exactly
set
in
stone.
What
exactly
will
happen,
but
there's
a
staff
direction,
that's
to
be
followed
and
there's
kind
of
a
deadline
of
2023
to
potentially
raise
the
funds
to
move
forward
with
the
proposed
alternative
project.
B
Good
point:
yes,
I
mean
that
was
actually,
I
think,
a
pretty
important
and
very
significant
date
to
have
in
there,
because
I
think
anything,
that's
shorter
than
that.
B
It's
just
not
reasonable
to
be
able
to
develop
these
kinds
of
innovative
projects,
and
so
it
would
create
a
conflict
with
the
city
again
and
staff
a
year
from
now
so
realistically,
but
that
did
include
holding
costs
for
the
city
of
four
million
dollars,
so
there's
definitely
issues
around
where
that
money
comes
from
and
what
what
doesn't
happen
that
could
have
happened
if
we're
having
to
maintain
the
property
with
no
productivity
for
the
next
two
years
so,
and
there
were
also
some
good,
really
good
conversations
about
the
staff
and
the
need
to
provide
clean
water
and
infrastructure.
B
I
will
say
that
we
take
that
for
granted
here,
there's
many
other
places
around
the
country
and
other
sustainability
people
I
talk
to,
and
especially
with
black
and
brown
people
around
the
country.
It
is
not
a
given
that
your
house
has
clean
water
coming
into
it.
B
Well,
we
just
got
to
talk
about
flint,
but
I
mean
it's:
it's
it's
common
all
over
the
place.
There's
10
million
or
more
people
that
do
not
have
access
to
clean
water
across
the
country.
So
it's
a
big
deal
and
of
course
the
majority
of
those
are
brown
black
people.
B
So
I
guess
the
next
thing
we're
going
to
talk
about
is
the
aur.
The
alternative
urban
area-wide
review
plan
for
the
upper
harbor
terminal.
A
A
No,
that's,
okay,
I'll
pull
that
up
so
I'll
just
pause,
and
my
apologies
for
for
missing.
This
was
getting
my
computer
rebooted.
So
as
we
meet
here
today,
we
are
reminded
that
minneapolis
is
situated
on
the
homelands
of
the
dakota
people,
an
area
that
is
steeped
in
rich
indigenous
history.
It
is
home
to
indigenous
people
from
more
than
30
different
nations.
As
a
city,
we
have
a
responsibility
to
care
for
the
land
on
which
we
live
and
work
in
all
its
natural
surroundings.
A
M
Yeah,
so
I
part
of
the
reason
why
I
asked
the
question
about
who
is
leading
the
stakeholder
process.
If,
if
something
happens
on
the
high
office
side,
is
that
I
know
that
previously,
because
the
project
was
specifically
about
development
of
a
city
asset,
that
process
was
managed
by
facilities
and
there
were
a
lot
of
community
concerns
about
whether
facilities
was
capable
of
or
was
listening
to
their
concerns
is,
I
think
something
that,
given
the
large
population
of
indigenous
people
in
east
phillips,
I
think
we
can.
M
We
should
strongly
advocate
if
anything
appears
that
if
it
appears
that
cpad
will
not
be
taking
that
lead
role
or
ncr
or
some
other
organization,
that's
more
familiar
with
culturally
sensitive
outreach.
I
think
cx
should
step
in
and
advocate
for
that.
Obviously
this
is
rapidly
developing.
A
Thank
you,
yeah.
That's
well
taken.
A
I
will
just
let
folks
know
if
you
haven't
heard:
there's
a
treaty
people's
gathering
on
wednesday
evening
at
the
state
capitol
folks
have
been
walking.
I
can't
remember
exactly
their
starting
point,
but
I
think
it's,
I
think
it's
over
500
miles
and
are
ending
at
the
state
capitol
this
wednesday
to
protest
line
three.
So
it
looks
like
tess
may
have
more
information
on
that.
Go
ahead.
Tess
256.
A
E
Yeah
and
there'll
be
events
all
week.
You
can
go
to
treaties.tarsands.com
and
they
have
all
the
info
on
that
webpage
and
there'll
be
events
all
week,
but
especially
on
wednesday
afternoon,
the
walkers
will
be
arriving
having
lunch
at
the
mlk
building
and
then
finishing.
The
walk
to
the
capitol
and
folks
are
encouraged
to
join
especially
that
day.
But
all
the
details
are
treaties,
not
tarsans.com.
E
They
started
at
the
first
headwaters
crossing
where
the
pipeline
route
crosses
the
headwaters
of
the
mississippi
and
then
went
to
the
headwaters
of
the
river
at
itasca
and
then
have
walked
from
there,
but
not
a
special
number.
That's
just
the
route.
P
A
Right
sensing,
no
other
additions
kim.
Can
I
get
back
to
you
for
the
aur
update
on
upper
harbor
terminal.
B
Sure
so
what
we've
got
going
on
right
now?
As
you
know,
we
had
an
update
on
the
upper
harbor
terminal
and,
and
basically
this
is
sort
of
one
of
those
combinations
of
environmental
review
and
sort
of
like
what's
the
impact
from
different
kinds
of
scenarios
like
very
high
density
to
lower
density
and
different
types
of
uses,
and
that's
what
makes
up
the
analysis
so
where
we
are
right
now
is
that
we've
we've
had
an
opportunity
to
see
the
what's
been
put
out.
There.
B
So
that's
sort
of
the
next
process
I
spoke
with
hillary.
I
divorced
there
are
no
changes
or
updates
that
they're
proposing
there
again.
This
is
a
process
of
analyzing
like
what's
going
on
and
and
there
will
be
some
remediation
effects,
all
of
the
land
use
types
of
the
contamination
will
be
remediated.
B
There
will
be
it's
very
contained
about
storm
water,
runoff
and
destroying
the
soil
because
of
its
proximity
to
the
well.
It's
on
the
shoreline
of
the
mississippi
river.
So
there's
there
will
be
a
whole
level
of
ground
disturbance
approved
by
the
state
mpca,
that's
part
of
it.
B
There
are
some
challenges:
that
of
the
of
the
report
that
don't
that
the
I
think
you
know
we
we
could
consider
here,
and
that
includes
that
the
level
of
trans,
the
impact
of
emissions
from
cars
and
and
and
additional
traffic
to
the
site
is
not
well
documented
scientifically
and
we're
going
to
go
into
this
a
little
bit
later.
B
But
we
we've
been
seeing
a
trend
in
which
the
actual
miles
per
gallon
for
cars
are
becoming
less
efficient
in
the
la
in
the
trends
a
little
bit
here,
a
little
bit
there.
But
one
of
the
the
proposed
one
of
the
assumptions
of
the
aur
is
that
miles
per
gallon
is
going
to
be
increasing
and
therefore,
even
though
there's
an
increase
in
the
amount
of
traffic
to
the
site,
emissions
levels
will
be
less
than
what
they
are
today.
B
But
there's
not
a
lot
of
evidence,
trend
wise
that
that's
happening
and
when
you're
in
it
that's
nice
to
say
if
you're
in
a
corn
field,
but
when
you're
in
an
impacted
community
where
emissions
are
already
extremely
high
because
of
course
there's
a
freeway
two
blocks
away,
not
a
freeway
in
interstate
two
blocks
away
emissions
levels
aren't
sort
of
like
a
push
and
just
be
like.
Well,
you
know
it's
better
than
what's
there
now
so
there's
that
concern
that's
within
the
auar
that
that
should
probably
be
addressed.
B
I
know
they're
aware
of
it.
I
brought
it
up
at
a
meeting.
I
was
at
last
night
with
the
public
policy
project
and
brandon
shampoo
from
the
united
properties
was
there
and
so,
and
I
know
there's
some
additional
things
with
it,
but
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
update
on
where
things
are
at.
I
think
there's
still
a
lot
of
movement
in
it.
It's
not
perfect,
I'm
not
recommending.
We
approve
it
unless
we've
looked
at
a
little
bit
more
about
how
we're
talking
about
mitigating
things.
B
So
if
there
were
any
comments,
it
would
probably
be
around
really
pushing
the
idea
of
trying
to
create
a
carbon
negative
environment
which
doesn't
sound
great.
We
got
to
come
up
with
a
different
word,
but
one
that
actually
produces
less
carbon
or
absorbs
more
carbon
and
carbon
negative
than
it
actually
produces
so
with
the
19
acres
of
parkland,
with
this
and
things
it's
possible.
B
So
again,
if,
if
c
was
gonna,
the
comments
are
sort
of
closed,
but
there's
the
process,
but
there
are
a
bit
of
some
flaws
in
there
and
that
that
may
be
worthwhile,
bringing
back
to
have
a
more
further
discussion
on
transportation
and
and
how
we
address
those
particular
issues,
because
it's
not
unique
to
to
the
upper
harbor
terminal,
basically
with
the
comp
plan
2040
with
the
increase
in
density.
This
this
issue
will-
and
this
play
between,
like
oh
yeah,
we
have
rapid
adaption
of
evs.
B
So
therefore
emissions
are
going
down,
even
though
I
have
more
cars
driving.
That
is
a
an
interesting
dichotomy
that
we
have
as
we
move
forward
with
sustainability,
because
without
that
kind
of
ev
adoption
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
we're.
Not
seeing
anyway,
currently
reduction
in
emission
levels
as
more
cars
are
added.
A
Thanks
kim
sandy.
H
Hey
kim
thanks
so
much
for
that
update.
So
am
I
understanding
correctly
that
they're
proceeding
with
the
final
auar
presented
to
city
council
with
that
error
in
the
fuel
efficiency.
B
That
that
is
my
understanding.
Yes,.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
and
again
I
I
you
know:
that's
that's
one
of
those
and
and
I
I
it's
it's-
it
identifies
much
of
what
the
issues
are
as
far
as
cleanup
and
things
like
that,
but
yeah,
that's
that's
one
of
the
things
that
comes
up,
and
so
anyway,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
about
like
how
we
frame
that,
even
though
I
know
it's
coming
up
this
way,
but
I
think
it's
worthwhile
for
us
to
to
if
we,
if
we
did
want
to
make
some
kind
of
official
movement
that
we
look
at
some
of
the
these
kinds
of
assumptions.
B
If
we
were
going
to
make
a
motion,
it
would
round
transportation
or
buildings
that,
unless
we're
going
to
net
zero
energy,
this
is
just
going
to
be
adding
emissions
to
the
the
community.
So,
let's
take
a
deeper
dive
on
the
on
the
assumptions.
N
H
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
I'd
love,
others,
thoughts
on
whether
we
submit
a
letter
to
city
council
with
our
you
know
as
an
appendix
our
original
comments
on
the
draft
aur,
but
also
digging
into
some
of
these
assumptions
that
are
conveniently
ignoring
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
impacts.
A
Yeah,
are
there
other
thoughts
about
that
possibility
of
submitting
a
letter
to
city
council
prior
to
september
12th
vote?
I
guess
that
would
mean
at
least
coming
up
with
some
like
talking
points
at
this
point
and
then
kind
of
filling
in
the
exact
wording
of
it
maybe
offline.
If
folks
feel
comfortable
with
that.
E
Yeah,
I
would
certainly
be
in
favor
of
bringing
these
up
to
city
council
and
making
sure
we
make
them
aware
of
our
concerns.
E
Erin
put
a
lot
of
work
into
the
comment
letter
that
we
made
on
the
draft
aur
and
it's
pretty
discouraging
to
hear
that
they're
not
really
addressing
any
of
those
or
other,
I'm
sure
there
were
also
many
others
making
comments
on
that
and,
I
think
also
yeah.
One
of
the
big
things
to
me
is
that
especially,
you
know
with
our
other
topics
of
conversation
right
now
in
the
ipcc
reports
being
a
friend
of
mine.
The
fact
that
the
auar
just
doesn't
include
climate
analysis
is
pretty
unacceptable.
E
I
think
the
environmental
quality
board
is
considering
making
that
requirement,
and
I
think
we
should
do
better
than
just
meeting
the
minimum
requirements
of
the
moments
and
really
be
at
the
forefront
of
you
know
the
best
practices
in
doing
our
analysis,
especially
for
such
a
significant
project,
can
I
ask
to
clarify
next
month's
meeting.
There
have
been
kind
of
mixed
messages
about
which
week
it
is,
it
would
maybe
be
sort
of
too
short.
E
I
think
it
would
obviously
be
better
to
get
our
comments
to
counsel
more
than
two
days
ahead
of
their
vote,
but
worth
asking
anyway.
If
we
are
meeting
on
the
8th
or
if
it's
the
following
week,
thanks.
B
Yeah
just
to
respond
to
tess,
we
are
meeting
on
the
15th
next
month.
I'm
sorry,
I
should
say
that
yeah,
so
it's
the
week
after
the
council
will
meet
they're.
They
they
don't.
They
have
a
committee
schedule
off
that
week
of
labor
day,
but
they
actually
meet
on
the
city
council
that
week
so
the
biz
committee,
even
though
it's
on
24th
that
committee
meeting
doesn't
push
forward
into
the
city
council
full
approval
meeting
until
september
10th
because
of
the
labor
day
weekend,
so
we'd
have
the
ability
to
get
to
council.
B
Even
though
it's
ideally,
you
know
something
would
happen
with
the
committee
meaning,
but
I
had
something
today
with
the
renewable
energy
rfp
thing
I
been
working
on
with
property
services
that
got
pulled
off
committee
and
delayed
for
three
weeks
because
there's
some
concerns,
but
so
anyway,
the
point
is:
is
that
there's
there's
opportunity
to
have
that
kind
of
improvement,
and
certainly
any
kind
of
council
action
or
movement
council
or
motion,
I
should
say,
can
can
include
you
know,
staff
recommendations
and
looking
at
the
transportation
or
different
things
so
certainly
worthwhile
to
bring
up
as
we
move
forward.
A
Okay,
cool
leslie:
did
you
have
your
hand
up.
J
I
I
did.
I
disagreed
that
I
mean
I
agree
with
what
tess
was
saying
as
well
as
kim.
I
feel
that
we
should
get
this
letter
together
and
aaron
did
work
very
hard
and
we
did
brainstorm
and
I
think
it's
a
very
important
factor
in
our
community
community
that
our
voices
be
heard,
especially
in
some
big
project
like
this,
especially
with
the
contaminated
soil
and
transportation,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
just
agree
that
we
do
need
us
talk
to
these
city
council
again
or
reach
out
to
them.
Thank
you.
A
Cool
thanks,
leslie
nick.
M
I
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
suggesting
a
special
meeting,
but
I
think
it's
worth
mentioning
that
if
we
don't
feel
prepared
tonight,
especially
with
aaron's
absence
and
aaron's
role
in
this,
it
may
be
appropriate
for
once
aaron
gets
back
to
confer
with
anna
and
kim
and
decide.
If,
maybe
you
know,
maybe
we
can
adopt
something,
but
if
it's
insufficient,
we
can
always
call
a
special
meeting
for
further
clarification
too,
to
get
something
ready
in
time.
A
Yeah,
that's
yeah
thanks
nick
I'm
wondering
if,
like
what
maybe
one
option
could
be
since
we
have
a
quorum
here
would
be
to
like
move
to
adopt
like
move
to
have
a
move,
to
delegate
a
smaller
group
to
write
a
letter
at
kind
of
the
direction
of
the
chair,
and
we
can
note
any
top
line
points
that
we
want
to
make
sure
to
give
her
direction
on
and
try
to
schedule
the
meeting
in
a
time
when
most
people
are
able
to
come,
but
maybe
not
necessitate
a
quorum
being
present.
M
That
was
from
the
last
time,
but
I
am
concerned
that
that
will
get
us
crossways
with
the
clerk's
office,
because
anytime,
we
are
meeting
to
work
on
on
something
related
to
commission
matters
in
a
remote
environment
at
least.
I
think
that
there
we
already
were
kind
of
pushing
boundaries
last
year,
and-
and
I
don't
want
our
work
to
be
invalidated
by
a
procedural
matter.
So
I
think
if
we
were
to
do
something,
I
think
we
would
instead
give
firm
direction
and
give
the
chair
the
may
get.
B
I
I
would
agree
with
that
sort
of
assessment.
It's
completely
fine
for
the
first
yac
to
say:
hey
we'll
have
the
chair.
Vice
chair
and
commission
member
volunteer
commission
members
work
out
the
details
to
cover
you
know,
responses
to
the
auar
and
then,
of
course,
we
can
list
some
of
those,
and
I
just
actually
post
in
the
meeting
chat
some
things
that
have
come
up
that
we've
been
looking
at
within
sustainability.
B
That
might
have
been.
You
know
a
little
bit
limiting
or
or
concerns
we
have
kind
of
good
and
bad,
but
but
some
of
the
things
you
get
on
transportation
and
and
just
sort
of
cumulative
effect
of
air
pollution
are
are
sort
of
not
keeping
up
with
our
sort
of
current
understanding
of
the
impacts
that
air
pollution
can
have.
On
your
you
know,
health
and
resiliency
to
you
know
the
covet
and
everything
else
right.
B
So
I
just
put
something
like
that,
but
certainly
I
agree
with
nick
that
that
would
be
best,
which
would
then
be
able
to
give
us
the
ability
to
have
because
otherwise
you're
right,
we
have
to
do
a
special
poster.
We
can
do
it.
We
have
to
have
you
know
five
days,
business
days
notice
and
whatever
I
can
just
put
it
in
the
calendar.
It's
not
a
big
deal,
but
it
it
will
definitely
catch
the
eye
of
the
city
clerk.
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you
for
that
clarification
is.
Would
someone
want
to
make
a
motion
to
that
kind
of?
In
that
vein,
I
think
directing
the
chair
to
draft
a
letter
to
send
to
city
staff
responding
to
the
updated
auar
expressing
cx
concerns
around
things
that
were
omitted
and
including
transportation,
assessments
and
climate
change,
impact
assessments
and
other
issues.
B
Yeah
I
actually
added
in
I
would
I
was
going
to
make
that
recommendation
too,
that
it
go
to
to
city
staff,
of
course,
cpad
and
the
folks
and
us
of
the
mayor
and
city
council,
including
further
analysis.
A
And
before
we
vote
on
this,
I
just
want
to
recognize
that
this
is
sort
of
a
decent
amount
of
latitude
to
give
to
aaron.
I
feel
comfortable
with
it
because
I
know
she's
been
working
on
it
for
a
long
time,
but
just
also
want
to
leave
it
like
offer
the
question.
A
B
P
B
And
and
anna,
if
we
can
get
a
sandy
had
made
a
motion
on
that,
can
we
just
get
a
second
just
from
someone
just
so
we
can,
then
we
can
jump
in
the
discussion.
H
P
E
I
will
second
the
emotion
as
sandy
amended
it
and
I
yeah.
I
don't
want
to
just
dump
this
all
onto
aaron,
but
obviously
she
is
very
engaged
and
would
be
happy
to
you
know,
review
or
add
make
suggestions
or
help
out
as
needed,
but
I'm
also
confident
in
sharing
our
our
conversation
with
her
and
leaving
it
to
her
discretion.
E
M
M
This
is
just
want
to
note
the
similarity
to
the
hiawatha
project
where
we
were
about
a
year
and
a
month
ago,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
since
as
cf
members,
we
are
appointed
by
city
council
members
or
the
or
the
mayor,
and
you
know,
even
if
we're
a
mayoral
appointee,
we
live
in
a
city
council
member's
word
that,
following
the
letter,
part
of
what
I
think
got
the
hiawatha
project
back
on
the
docket
was
a
lot
of
people
reaching
out
to
city
council
members
and
giving
them
room
to
feel
like
they
could
revisit
a
discussion
that
all
you
know
in
individual
conversations.
M
M
I
think
we,
our
responsibility,
doesn't
just
end
with
sending
the
letter,
but
hopefully
all
of
us
are
able
to
take
some
action
to
reach
out
and
begin
those
conversations
with
council
members
to
make
sure
that
either
when
this
boat
comes
up
for
the
first
time
or
in
future
votes
on
upper
harbor
terminal
that
that
we're
maybe
slowing
some
of
the
momentum
against
what
the
community
is.
Looking
for.
H
I'm
sorry
if
I
could
just
completely
emphasize
nick's
point,
I
think
that's
a
really
good
one.
The
other
pattern
I'm
noticing
from
last
year
is
hillary,
dvorak
and
sort
of
the.
H
I
know
that
she
wasn't
around
for
the
hiawatha
project
stakeholder
engagement
process,
but
that
also
had
a
lot
of
goals,
and
so,
but
you
know
she
sort
of
stood
by
it
and
really
defended
it
last
year,
and
so
I
I
just
I,
I
think
we
should
keep
an
eye
on
on
cped
in
the
planning
and
stakeholder
engagement
process
for
for
any
other
projects
that
come
up,
including
the
hiawatha.
If
that
gets
revisited.
A
Yes
noted
so
I
think
any
other
discussion
around
around
this
motion
and
the
offering
aaron
the
latitude
to
come
up
with
a
letter
and
I'm
I'm
can
I'm
happy
to
help
her
with
that
as
well.
B
B
Is
that
amenable
to
sandy.
L
B
Test:
okay,
interestingly,
I
I
had
typed
in
tests
from
before,
but
it
was
in
the
made
the
motion
and
I'm
like.
Oh
wait.
That's
not
right
anyway!
Thank
you.
So
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
a
writing,
a
letter
to
clarify
the
auar
to
be
sent
to
city
staff,
the
mayor
and
city
council
requesting
further
analysis
of
transportation,
climate
change,
air
quality
and
lack
of
inclusion
of
public
comments
in
responses
to
the
alternative
urban
area-wide
plan
for
the
upper
harbor
terminal.
B
P
K
B
B
So
I
will
please
answer
by
saying:
yay
or
nay
indigo
david
luke.
C
H
P
P
P
P
P
A
Excellent
thanks
kim
and
thanks
everyone
for
the
discussion
that
was
last
minute,
so
appreciate
everyone's
engagement
on
that.
So
moving
on
to
our
agenda
to
yeah
the
agenda.
A
1.0
is
a
discussion
on
the
international
planet
panel
on
climate
change
report
and
I'd
like
to
ask
kim
to
present
a
mentor
meter
poll.
If
that's
what
we're
doing
right
now
but
I'll
hand
it
over
to
kim
to
start
this
phase.
B
P
B
Hate
to
say
it,
I
know
it
took
a
lot,
but
this
is
a
lot
interesting
updates
that
we've
had
and
thanks
to
tess
for
making
sure
we
you
stay
on
on
top
of
it,
because
it's
really
important
what
I
thought
we
could
just
jump
into
is
kind
of
where
we
are
at
in
the
climate
change
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
We've
we've
actually
completed
our
draft
inventory
analysis,
and
but
I'd
like
to
jump
into
that
next
in
unless
folks
want
to
express,
you
know,
thoughts,
reactions,
feedback.
B
I
I
added
some
different
links
within
the
agenda
about
resources
and
reaction
to
the
ipcc
report,
but
obviously
it
says
that
we
have
approximately
eight
years
or
so
to
be
able
to
stop
a
2.0
celsius.
Degree
increase
we're
already
locked
in
one
and
a
half
percent,
and
that's
going
to
have
the
impact
we're
having
today
plus
others
for
the
next
30
years,
so
really
about
a
lot.
A
lot
of
things
I
take
away
from
it.
We're
gonna
have
to
be
able
to
figure
out
how
to
be
resilient
in
a
world.
B
That's
hotter
drier,
sometimes
wetter,
but
very
localized
differences
throughout
the
country
throughout
the
world,
and
so
how
do
we
become
more
resilient
to
become
more
sustainable
and,
I
think
and
more
adaptative,
and
how
do
we
use
our
natural
resources
to
really
help
us
as
they
have
in
the
past?
B
So
and
we
have
to
be
able
to
be
bold.
I
mean
just
like
we
talked
about
earlier
before
some
folks
came
on,
I
mean
there's
just
sort
of
a
switch
fossil
fuel
companies
turn
out
like
putting
a
ton
of
energy
into
creating
plastics,
because
it's
another
avenue
for
revenue
for
fossil
fuels.
B
And
how
do
we,
you
know,
get
a
control
of
all
that
aspect
as
well
as
the
energy
and
and
then
really
use
this
as
a
leverage
point.
But
it
says
we
need
to
do
more
faster,
quicker,
that's,
ultimately
what
it
is.
So
I'm
just
kind
of
curious
if
other
folks
wanted
to
share
their
thoughts
or
reactions
about
what
they've
heard
or
read
about
at
the
ipcc.
H
Yeah
I
so
I
my
family's
from
the
the
middle
east-
and
you
know
we
we
left
when
you
know
decades
ago,
but
because
of
you
know
western
dependence
on
fossil
fuels
and
it's
I
think
it's
really
interesting
that
like
what's
that
going
on
in
afghanistan
this
week,
you
know
the
ipcc.
H
You
know
this
is
all
stuff
that
we
knew
was
gonna
happen
for
decades
and
it's
all
interrelated,
and
it's
just
kind
of
I.
I
know
somebody
in
the
introduction
said
like
maybe
they
were
disheartened
or
something
and
it
just
kind
of
feels
like
you
know,
our
whole
group
is
focused
on
this,
but
how
do
we?
How
do
we
start
making
the
connections
beyond?
H
And
I
know
even
you
know
for
my
word,
the
the
council
member
has
not
been
particularly
interested
in
like
sustainability
discussions
or
you
know,
engaged
on
those
kinds
of
those
kinds
of
issues.
So
it's
kind
of
a
ramble,
but
I
guess
it's
just
trying
to
put
like
a
really
broad
lens
on
how
critical
this
issue.
I
guess
also
how
great
grateful
I
am
that
groups
like
this
exist.
So
thank
you
all
for
being
here.
A
Yeah,
I
feel
like
I've
something
one
of
the
reactions
I've
had
to
is
along.
Similar
lines
is
just
thinking
about
governance.
In
you
know,
a
hotter
wetter
drier
more
chaotic
world,
and
I
I
I
mean
it
hasn't
worked
so
far,
but
like
it's
really
truly
in
government's
best
interest
to
get
this
under
control,
and
it's
just
so
obvious
that
that's
true-
and
maybe
this
will
help
make
the
case
a
little
bit
better.
A
But
it's
hard
to
it's
hard
to
have
a
stable
society
when,
when
all
this
is
going
on,
so
that's
something
that's
kind
of
been
on
my
mind.
B
I'm
just
curious
if,
if
we
could
hear
from
folks
who
haven't
haven't,
you
know
spoken
up
on
the
other
topics:
wanna
just
share
their
thoughts
about
the
ipc
and
what
they've
heard
I
mean,
maybe
mark
dennan
or
matthew
douglas
may,
who
haven't
spoken
yet
today.
Excuse
me
just
a
minute.
O
F
Chime
in
I,
I
think
it's,
it's
obviously
not
surprising
for
anybody.
Who's
been
following
the
ipc's
ipcc's
reports
over
the
past
decades,
but
the
fact
that
we're
at
like
one
to
two
years
to
act,
I
hope,
would
maybe
encourage
more
urgency
because
I
think
humans
in
general
have
a
hard
time
like
thinking
about
and
acting
upon,
few
issues
that
are
like
way
far
into
the
future.
But
like
it's
here.
So
I'm
hoping
that
this
report
will
spur
more
urgency
and
make
it
harder
to
ignore,
because
if
we.
O
D
Yeah
and-
and
I
just
agree
with
everything-
that's
been
said-
I
didn't
raise
my
hand
because
I
was
just
nodding
violently
on
my
end,
but
I
I
guess
my
biggest
concern
is
that
this
report,
most
recent
report,
probably
isn't
going
to
change
the
mind
of
a
lot
of
climate
deniers.
L
That
continue
with
the
same
issues
right
that
we
should
have
dealt
with
like
a
few
years
ago,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
like
how
like
out
like
how
can
we
essentially
hold
like
people
who
make
decisions
more
accountable
because
in
some
other
committees
that
I'm
involved
in
and
maybe
here
as
well,
some
people
might
feel
that,
like
the
you
have
an
advisory
committee
right,
but
then
you
know,
there's
no
real
accountability,
that
the
organization
or
whatnot.
That's
seeking
this
advice
will
do
anything
with
it
right,
and
so
it's
like
we're
spinning
our
wheels.
A
I
think
soya.
No,
I
think
this
is
exactly
the
right
question
to
be
asking
is
how
do
we,
how
do
we
get
through
to
people
with
the
actual
power
to
to
change
things?
Leslie?
Did
you
have
your
hand
up.
J
Yeah,
I
I
think
it's
quite
interesting,
being
a
person
of
color
and
listening
to
all
these
talks
and
different
meetings
that
I've
been
attending.
Even
when
I
was
studying
at
the.
U
it's
like
all
these
problems.
They
say
they
dump
in
the
black
or
the
poor
communities
and
it-
and
I
think
the
people
are
denial,
think
that
that's
where
it
stays.
But
I
don't
care
where
you
travel
across
the
country
or
the
world,
we're
all
affected
by
everything
and
it's
all
interconnected.
J
But
if
they
keep
thinking
that,
it's
all
only
in
one
certain
part
of
the
city
or
whatever
you
know
whatever
place,
they
might
think
it
might
be.
It's
a
lie
and
we're
all
affected.
Just
like
kim
pointed
out
across
the
city
and
across
the
country.
People
have
bad
water
and
air
and
things
but
people-
I
I
don't.
I
don't
know,
maybe
they're
they're
blind
to
the
fact
that
they're
breathing
it
as
well.
J
I
I
don't
know
but
being
able
to
to
talk
to
the
leaders
in
our
community
and
those
that
make
the
decision
and
let
them
know
that
this
affects
them
and
if
they
don't,
then
maybe
some
samples.
Besides
data
physical
samples
and
let
them
stand
there,
let
them
breathe
a
bit.
I
don't
I
don't
know
what
else
to
do
to
to.
Let
people
know
that
this
affects
them
as
well.
J
I
sit
on
these
different
environmental
committees
and
I
hear
oh,
we
got
money
for
the
black
community
and
the
black
community
gets
two
percent
and
I
I
think
putting
it
in
that.
That
sense
makes
people
not
I
I
don't
know
I
I
don't
really
know
if
it's
a
race
thing
still
or
what
to
me,
it's
a
human
thing
and
that
everything
connects.
J
So
I
don't
see
color,
but
I
don't
understand
why
they
separated
that
way,
and
it's
frustrating
to
me
as
a
scientist
to
know
the
changes
in
the
climate
and
and
what
we
as
humans
endure.
But
we
don't
see
that
as
making
decisions,
we
only
see
the
dollars
and
the
money
and
the
people
and
how
much
we
can
profit
off
of
the
people
and
the
money
that
we
can
get
from
disparities
and
things.
J
A
Thanks
so
yeah
yeah,
I
do
think
there's
a
misconception
too
about
you,
know
the
cost
of
sustainability
and
the
cost
of
decarbonization
versus
the
cost
of
non-decarbonizing
and
and
that
kind
of
math
isn't
always
clear,
and
I
think
your
right
to
lived
experiences
are
are
powerful
for
getting
through
to
people.
I'm
I,
the
this.
A
The
wildfire
smoke
was
one
such
example
for
me
personally
in
the
in
the
past
month,
where
even
working
on
climate
change
all
the
time
and
talking
about
stuff,
I
really
felt
it
differently
when
I
was
breathing
and
smoking
stuck
in
my
house.
A
Any
other
thoughts
before
talking
about
the
city's
current
emissions
trajectory.
A
Cool
I'll
hand
it
over
to
kim.
O
B
Perfect,
okay,
so
these
are
preliminary
results
that
we
have.
We
take
greenhouse
gas
emissions
every
year,
based
on
a
baseline
from
2006,
and,
of
course,
we
have
the
climate
action
plan
goals
to
reduce
our
carbon
emissions
by
30
by
2025
and
to
reduce
our
carbon
emissions
by
80
percent
by
2050.
B
These
are
going
to
be
reconsidered,
of
course,
as
part
of
a
update
of
our
climate
action
plan
that
we
are
excited
to
start
in
later
this
year
and
and
sort
of
get
the
meat
and
potatoes
going
next
year.
But
I
wanted
to
show
you
kind
of
where
things
are
at
right
now
believe
it
well,
you
can
believe
it
we're
in
kobe
right,
32
reduction
since
2006
in
carbon
emissions
as
a
result
of
covet.
B
I
think
there's
two
really
big
factors
that
are
part
of
this
one
is
that
we
saw
a
significant
increase
in
carbon,
neutral
or
carbon-free
energy
sources
from
excel.
Part
of
that
is
that
there
was
kind
of
a
load
shift
from
the
day
to
the
evening
in
which
there's
actually
more
wind
energy
and
more
renewable
energy.
B
B
We
saw
a
decrease
of
about
24
in
vehicle
miles
traveled,
even
though
we
saw
half
a
half
a
gallon
mile
per
gallon
increase
in
the
reduction
in
and
and
fuel
efficiency
for
cars,
so
it
this
only
reflects
about
a
20
decline
in
emissions.
Even
though
we
had
a
vehicle
mile
traveled
emission
reduction
of
about
24-
and
we
did
see
also
a
5
reduction
in
natural
gas
emissions,
which
was
really
it's
it's
in.
B
It's
in
the
weatherization
like
each
year
that
it
can
go
up,
go
up
and
down
five
percent
pretty
easily
as
a
result
of
of
different
weather.
So
there
wasn't
anything
really
to
draw
from
there.
B
One
of
the
interesting
also
things
is:
is
that
solid
waste?
Again?
No
surprise
here
was
actually
increased,
so
we
got
all
those
packages
delivered
from
doordash
and
and
amazon
and
that
actually
increased
our
emissions.
B
B
Based
on
the
situation,
we
were
in
whoops
sorry,
so
here's
where
we
are
in
electricity
emissions
we're
off
on
electricity,
which
is
pretty
amazing,
60
reduction
in
carbon
emissions,
so
the
systemic
changes
to
using
coal
fire
as
our
base
for
energy
electricity
production
is
proving
to
be
a
very
significant
strategy
to
reduce
our
our
carbon
emissions.
Getting
rid
of
coal
closing
them
down
doing
it
sooner.
B
All
of
that
very
beneficial
natural
gas
we're
actually,
even
though
we
saw
four
percent
reduction
in
the
last
night
2019
to
2020
year,
we
actually
saw
in
six
percent
increase,
so
we
are
getting
more
efficient
homes
and
on
the
margin,
but
the
expansion,
the
use
of
natural
gas,
still
is
exceeding
our
baseline
on-road
transportation.
B
Again.
Efficiencies
mainly
in
miles
per
gallon
have
driven
this
not
in
vehicle
miles.
Traveled
other
than
this
last
year,
extremely
significant
you'll
see
that
six
percent
basically
is
what's
been
changed
in
the
last
14
years
from
car
fuel
efficiencies.
But
that
is
extremely
important
for
us
to
continue
to
push.
But
the
idea
of
us
not
driving
as
much
as
pretty
significant
you'll
see
here
on
solid
waste.
We
actually
increased
a
little
bit
overall,
it's
down
we're
kind
of
holding
steady,
relatively
speaking,
as
you
can
tell
against
the
other
emissions.
B
Pretty
small
wastewater,
very
significant.
The
city
is
moving
forward
with
a
multi-megawatt
installation
at
our
waterworks
facility
in
fridley.
That
will
actually
drop
this
down
to
well
below
50
percent
reduction
in
emissions
within
the
next
couple
of
years,
so
fewer
cars
on
the
road,
less
electricity
being
used
in
our
office,
retail
entertainment
spaces
consumption
dropped
by
five
percent.
B
That
is
crazy.
When
you
think
about
how
much
development
has
been
going
on
in
the
last
few
years
in
minneapolis,
it
is
the
most
significant
drop.
We
have,
of
course,
ever
seen
since
tracking
this
19
in
one
year
so
really
affected
by
changes
in
our
sort
of
the
way
we
do
the
way
we
live.
B
You
know,
targets
that
have
been
talked
about
and
and
and
then
mark
dennett
had
talked
about
how
they're
really
looking
at
this
as
far
as
race
to
zero
and
getting
to
net
zero
energy
you'll
see
that
we
need
to
have
this
kind
of
a
change
that
we
had
in
2019
to
2020,
basically
on
an
annual
basis
to
get
us
to
our
fair
share
reductions.
B
So
we'll
need
to
continue
what
we've
been
doing
what's
challenging
about.
That,
of
course,
is
that
the
city
of
minneapolis
is
built
on
a
very
robust
downtown
office,
space,
commercial
building
environment.
We
are
the
central
city,
we
are
the
business
hub.
We
are
at
the
financial
and
legal
center
and
the
government
center
of
the
10th
most
prosperous
county
in
all
of
the
united
states.
B
We
are,
we
are
the
orange
county
like
in
california,
out
of
minnesota,
so
this
means
we'd
have
to
be
doing
a
lot
of
things
differently
here
in
minneapolis
and
hennepin
county
to
achieve
those
those
particular
goals,
but
it
really
shows
what
we,
interestingly,
what's
possible
and,
interestingly,
what
we've
actually
could
achieve
with
a
year
that
was
so
different
than
what
we've
experienced
before.
B
So
this
is
a
little
convoluted
here
with
lots
of
different
things,
but
our
our
electricity
production
to
get
by
2030
to
100
renewable
electricity
that
we
know
we
can
do
this
line
right
here
is
actually
the
irp
the
integrated
resource
plan
from
excel
energy's
alternative
plan
they
just
produced
on
end
of
june.
B
It's
pretty
close
to
getting
us
to
this
is
renewable
electricity
and
carbon
neutrality,
and
then
we
have
the
current
plan.
That's
been
in
here
that
stays
up
here.
This
is
really
the
issue
that
we
continue
to
have.
Is
the
natural
gas
projection
without
a
significant
change
in
the
way
that
we're
we're
heating
our
buildings
will
continue
to
be
an
extremely
difficult
not
to
crack.
So
we
have
solutions
here.
We
should
continue
on
the
on
the
renewable
electricity
side.
B
Natural
gas
would
become
really
our
our
biggest
nut
to
crack,
and
so
that's
kind
of
an
update
on
on
where
things
are
at
with
our
latest
ghg
emissions.
We
haven't
released
these
publicly.
We
typically
go
to
council
in
the
fall
to
give
these
inventory
projection
updates,
and
then
we
release
it
so
we're
right
now,
just
verifying
where
things
are
at
with
our
utility
partners
and
making
sure
that
our
numbers
look
good
and
and
so
we'll.
B
That's
that's
where
things
are
at
right
now
on
our
emissions
reduction.
So
it's
a
sneak
peek.
We
haven't
shared
this
at
all
with
anybody
at
this
point,
so
happy
to
take
questions
and
then
answer
any
suggestions.
Thoughts.
Of
course,
too,.
A
D
Yeah
so
I
agree
very
interesting
information
kim
in
my
mind.
It's
going
to
be
very
important
to
see
what
lasting
impacts
of
the
pandemic.
We
have.
You
know,
as
far
as
you
know,
permanent
reductions
in
in
office
space.
You
know,
maybe
you
know
more
of
a
conversion
to
remote
working
you
know
and
in
our
in
the
company.
I
work
for
where
most
of
our
offices
around
the
world
are
still
closed
and
where
we've
done
some
pilot
return
to
work
projects
making
it
a
voluntary
thing
you
can
go
in.
D
D
You
know
several
of
our
facilities
and
I'm
wondering
what
might
happen
for
minneapolis
in
that
regard,
and
maybe
that
would
open
the
potential
for
office
spaces
to
be
converted
into
housing
of
some
sort
or
some
other
kind
of
office,
and
then
just
one
other
comment.
You
know
our
company
also
saw
a
significant
reduction
in
absolute
energy
use
during
the
pandemic.
D
It's
starting
to
tick
back
up
as
our
our
manufacturing
is
back
up
to
capacity
already.
But
but
again
you
know
when
you
have
a
lot
of
empty
office
space
and
unused
space,
we
saw
our
efficiency
actually
get
worse.
You
know,
so
our
consumption
went
down
overall,
but
our
consumption
per
unit
produced
got
worse
during
the
pandemic.
So
again,
just
you
know.
Okay,
we
saw
some
similar
things
to
what
you
were
reporting.
B
Thank
you,
that's
really
interesting,
yeah!
I
I,
I
really
believe
you
know
in
in
in
sort
of
seeing
some
things,
there's
actually
an
article
that
I
read
about
a
week
and
a
half
ago
in
the
wall
street
journal
about
the
that
they
did
some
surveying
five
years
out.
B
70
of
all
businesses
are
seeing
a
reduction.
The
total
office
space
that
they
will
be
occupying
much
of
this
is
going
to
be
in
transition.
I
think
there's
actually
going
to
be
a
fairly
significant
drop-off
right
from
the
get-go
we're
seeing
it
the
same
thing
in
the
city
of
minneapolis.
B
We
have
a
very
split
dichotomy.
Folks,
third
say
no.
I
don't
want
to
come
back
third
say:
yes,
I'm
gonna
be
back
in
the
office
third
saying
we
need
some
sort
of
hybrid
and
that's
a
classic,
but
what
it
points
to
is
when
you,
when
you
think
about
even
just
with
a
large
employer
with
nearly
3
000
employees
in
downtown
minneapolis,
is
that
we're
likely
not
to
really
need
to?
We
don't
need
a
third
of
the
space.
B
Maybe
we
had
planned
for
when
you
think
about
just
you
know,
a
third
of
the
people
aren't
going
to
come
in
at
all.
You
know.
So,
yes,
it
will
be
a
very
different
community,
and
actually
I
want
to
think
about
how
we
can
we
can
take
advantage
of
that.
One
of
the
things
you
know
being
a
downtown
resident
living
in
ninth
in
portland,
I
loved,
was
when
they
were
actually
able
to
close
off
some
of
the
streets
around.
B
You
know
the
river
or
the
lakes,
or
things
like
that,
and
that
was
due
to
the
fact
that
we
didn't
have
all
the
people
moving
in
rush
hour.
All
the
time
and
the
you
know
just
like
getting
everyone
everywhere,
all
the
time
you
know
it
was.
You
couldn't
really
do
that,
but
then
people
weren't
going
back
and
forth.
So
how
do
we?
How
do
we
kind
of
transition
into
the
office
commercial
to
housing
space?
That
also
can
create
some
really
cool?
B
You
know
carbon
free
zones
and-
and
you
know,
carbon
negative
zones
along
our
natural
amenities.
So
all
of
those
kind
of
things,
I
think,
are
really
interesting
that
are
positive
about
a
you
know:
lower
carbon
future.
So
but
anyway,
I
appreciate
what
your
your
thoughts
on
that
mark
and
yeah
it's
another
topic
we
could
have
just
about
like.
What
do
we
see
is
the
vision
of
our
you
know
urban
downtown
in
light
of
what
we're
starting
to
see,
maybe
roll
out
as
far
as
our
transition
to
a
different.
M
Yeah
I
wanted
to
comment
on
two
things.
I
think
first,
the
the
graph
about
electric
versus
natural
gas
highlights
that
talking
about
net
zero
isn't
enough,
because
net
zero
is
premised
on
the
idea
that
you're
you're
using
base,
in
most
cases,
you're
new
you're,
using
electricity
production
and
the
presumed
carbon
reduction
from
that
to
displace
your
natural
gas
emissions.
M
M
M
And
then
I
think
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
comment
on
is
there's
some
there's
some
silver
linings
to
the
pandemic
in
terms
of
those
carbon
reductions,
but
there's
also
some
black
clouds,
because
with
the
reduction
in
people
returning
to
central
workplaces,
the
most
affected
people
are
service
sector
employees
who
typically
are
lower
income.
And
you
know
I
I
can't
say
what
the
racial
makeup
of
those
people
are,
because
I've
never
done
done
the
research,
but
I
suspect
that
there's
probably
some
disproportionate
impacts
on
the
people.
M
Who've
been
left
out
of
that
and
if
we
want
to
have
an
equitable
climate
policy,
we
need
to
recognize
that
that
win
has
come
with
some
losses
and
need
to
figure
out
how
to
make
sure
that
the
next
iteration
of
the
climate
plan
can
include
what
the
effects
are
on.
Those
people
who
are
displaced
out
of
their
previous
jobs.
E
Yeah
to
both
of
those
last
comments
from
kim
and
nick,
I
think
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
what
happens
when
metro
transit
reduces
their
fares,
which
I
think
is
starting
in
september,
that
all
fairs
will
be
a
dollar
and
whether
that
encourages
people,
maybe
who
weren't
even
using
transit
before
to
lighten
up
some
of
the
congestion,
certainly
seen
it
coming
back
very
quickly
on
the
freeways
and
whether
that
might
affect
that's.
E
Certainly,
I
think
an
important
way
that
we
need
to
be
addressing
a
lot
of
issues
is
embracing
mass
transit
and
alternate
transit.
A
couple
questions
on
that
graph,
showing
the
natural
gas
creeping
up.
Is
that
a
business
as
usual,
or
does
that
take
into
account
any
of
what
we
talked
about
last
week
with
the
different
sort
of
options
that
have
been
studied
and
what
would
those
maybe
look
like
and
then
kim?
E
You
were
saying
something
about
electricity
use
being
reduced
and
the
shift
between
daytime
and
evening
use
having
an
impact
on
that,
and
I
didn't
quite
catch
that
and
wondering
if
that
probably
is
mostly
in
excel's
domain,
but
whether
that
indicates
anything
about
the
need
for
storage.
E
B
Sorry
I
lost
the
icon.
The
natural
gas
projections
are
based
on
the
trend
line
that
we've
had
since
we've
been
taking
emissions
and
and
they're
the
the
dark
spots
here
so
we've
had.
It
is
very
hard
to
sort
of
plot
that.
But
if
you
take
this
trend
line
that
we've
had
since
2006
through
our
2020
emissions,
which
include
this
here,
which
was-
and
this
represents
1.5
million
metric
ton,
equivalence
of
co2-
our
goal
is
to
get
us
down
and
at
80
reduction
is
to
get
us
down
to
one.
B
So
and
quite
honestly.
Obviously
the
ipcc
and
others
are
saying
to
bring
that
down
to
net
net
zero
or
carbon
neutral
much
more
quickly
than
that.
So
we'll
be
adjusting
that.
But
basically
that's
what
this
trend
is.
It
is
not
based
on
any
of
the
potential
decarbonization
strategies
that
have
been
touched
on,
but
ultimately
we
even
from
electrification
and
things
like
that.
The
sort
of
cost
parity
that
we're
seeing
is.
P
B
And
I
did
a
lot
of.
We
did
quite
a
bit
analysis
on
this
with
the
convention
center.
Just
recently,
it's
you
know.
The
cost
parity
between
going
electrification
for
for
heating
anyway,
is
still
you
know,
10
years
out,
so
natural
gas
remains
to
be
quite
competitive,
shall
we
say
so.
B
Sorry,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
out
of
my
out
of
this
particular
screen
to
exit
out.
A
From
yeah
the
that
natural
gas
line
is
is
definitely
the
the
seems
like
the
because
it's
it's
all
infrastructure
that
already
exists,
that
we
are
drawing
from
every
day
and
it
seems
like
that
really
kind
of
needs
to
be
a
focus
to
figure
out.
A
You
know
massive
investments
in
home,
energy
efficiency
paired
with
whatever
sort
of
rebates
or
support
or
anything
we
can
get
from
utilities,
federal
government,
whoever
to
move
towards,
elect,
move
to
electrification
and
make
it
more
cost
competitive
because
it
costs
less
now
to
heat
our
homes
with
gas.
But
it's
costing
us
more
in
the
long
run.
B
I
I
will,
I
will
just
add
one
more,
just
sort
of
again
very
timely
information
about
that.
We
have
been
working
on
for
the
last
two
years.
A
and,
of
course,
hannah
knows
this,
because
she
was
part
of
our
team.
Our
social
cost
of
carbon
analysis
like
where
do
we
have
leverage
points
to
be
able
to
apply
a
social
cost
of
carbon
in
order
to
one
basically
create
market
conditions
which
actually
fully
reflect
the
impact
of
fossil
fuels
and
carbon
emissions,
but
also
to
be
able
to
create
revenue
sources
from
carbon
emission
producers.
B
And
so
I'm
happy
to
say
that
the
the
mayor
has
included
funding
to
bring
on
board
a
full-time
or
maybe
not
full-time,
but
at
least
a
a
staff
person,
as
a
consultant
initially
to
help
us
work
on
how
we
can
integrate
that
within
our
accounting
of
the
business
that
we
do
at
the
city
and
how
we
might
apply
that
across
some
of
the
things
that
we
had
already
explored
within
a
research
project
that
we've
been
doing
with
fresh
energy.
Unfortunately,
we
we
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
roll
this
out.
B
Last
year
we
were
going
to
do
it
on
march
20th,
at
a
city
council
meeting
but
march
19th
18th
17th.
I
came
over
exactly
but
right
around
there,
we
we
were
told
that
we
won't
be
working
from
the
office
anymore
and
basically
we're
you
know.
Emergency
orders
and
nothing
except
for
dealing
with
public
health
is
going
to
be
considered
at
the
council
meetings.
B
So
it's
been
in
the
it's
been
in
the
hopper
for
a
year
and
a
half,
but
the
mayor's
proposed
budget
does
include
us
looking
at
how
we
can
start
applying
a
social
cost
of
carbon
to
really
start
identifying
where
we
are
having
carbon
emissions
so
and
to
hopefully
start
creating
some
market
signals
around
how
to
to
move
towards
non-carbon
more
efficient
processes
throughout
the
economy.
B
So
that's
kind
of
a
new
thing
that
just
happened
friday
with
the
mayor's
budget
address.
B
Yes,
so
within
the
city
of
minneapolis,
you
know
we
were
just
looking
at
at
the
boundaries
of
the
city,
so
we
have
much
more
energy
use
during
the
day.
B
B
This
is
why
they
time
of
use
and
other
things,
much
higher
use
of
wind
energy,
and
so,
when
you
position,
when
the
demand
shifts
like
that,
the
carbon
intensity
of
the
kilowatt
hours
that
are
being
supplied
to
the
city
of
minneapolis
are
more
likely
to
come
from
wind
and
therefore
it
seemed
like
there
was
a
lot
more
renewables
coming
on,
but
it
was
actually
amplified
it
wasn't
like
they
increased
the
amount
of
solar
and
wind
by
20
in
one
year.
It
was
the
utilization
of
the
solar
and
wind
and
mainly
wind.
B
Quite
honestly,
solar
is
much
smaller
than
wind.
It's,
you
know,
solar's
one-tenth,
the
amount
of
wind
energy
which
is
more
likely
to
happen
at
night
cooler
air,
is
thicker
and
therefore
is
easier
to
turn.
The
blades
faster
as
the
air
has
a
higher
density.
So
therefore,
when
it's
cooler,
therefore,
the
wind
energy
is
naturally
producing
much
more.
At
night,
we
took
more
energy
at
night
relative
to
what
we
did
in
the
past.
That's
how
we
were
able
to
d.
That's
that's
what
the
impact
was
of
a
decreased
carbon
intensity
measure
by
because
of
cobin.
K
A
Super
interesting
lauren.
I
Yeah
just
a
couple
thoughts
from
our
discussion.
I
This
is
a
friend
who
recently
had
her
air
conditioning
go
out,
and
so
you
know
she
was
talking
to
me
about
how
she
replaced
her
furnace
at
the
same
time
and
didn't
really
do
any
research
to
what
she
was
going
to
buy,
because
when
things
like
that
happen,
you're
just
like
I
need
to
get
my
acn
furnace
replaced
immediately.
I
So
I
just
call
somebody
up
and
ask
them
for
you
know
whatever
I
already
had
so
thinking
about
how
you
know,
somebody
searches,
furnace
minneapolis,
on
google,
like
what
sort
of
results
are
they
getting
to
show
electric
alternatives
or
are
the
contractors
or
mechanical
hvac
companies
recommending
electric
options,
or
you
know
the
potential
energy
or
cost
savings
in
the
future,
thinking
about
rebates
and
some
of
those
things?
So
so?
How
do
we
get
that
information
readily
available
to
people
who
are
sort
of
in
crisis
mode.
I
And
I
guess
I
don't
know
how
much
of
that
already
exists,
but
I'm
assuming
that
it
can
always
be
beefed
up
and
then
another
thought
on
the
parking
and
my
office
is
planning
to
return
to
work
downtown.
This
fall
and
so
parking
has
been
a
hot
topic,
because
lots
of
people
have
canceled
their
parking
contracts
downtown,
and
I
thought
it
was
interesting
that
the
the
city
of
minneapolis,
some
of
their
parking
ramps,
are
offering
like
six
dollar
a
day
sort
of
like
day
pass
parking
instead
of
requiring
a
full
parking
pass.
I
Therefore,
incentivizing
people
to
drive
downtown
so
they're
lowering
the
cost
of
daily
parking.
If
you,
if
you're,
buying
sort
of
like
a
punch,
pass
thing
or
something
which
seems
antithetical
to
trying
to
get
people
on
the
one
dollar
metro
transit
rides,
because
if
I
can
park
downtown
for
six
dollars,
why
would
I
spend
two
dollars
taking
the
bus
or
whatever
so
for
the
people?
Who've
all
already
always
been
driving,
where
I
didn't
really
see
the
private
parking
companies
doing
that
sort
of
deal.
B
Very,
very
interesting,
lauren,
you
know
it's
the
park.
You
know.
I
appreciate
the
comments
on
the
other
on
the
contractors.
No
we
we
have.
We
haven't
done
a
lot
of
work
on
that.
I
will
tell
you
that
one
of
the
things
we're
kind
of
weak
on
is,
is
you
know
just
broadly
marketing
communications
about
about
things,
but
it's
it's
very
important.
So
we
haven't
done
a
lot
of
that.
B
We
do
have
zero
percent
financing,
it
does
not
finance.
You
cannot
take
it
out
to
finance
a
gas
furnace,
it
is
only
recommended.
We
have
only
electrification,
we're
excited
about
a
tariff
on
bill
financing,
because
center
point
is
actually
agreed
to
allow
to
finance
air
source
heat
pumps
which
will
provide
heating
and
air
conditioning
electrically,
as
well
as
solar
as
part
of
our
proposals.
So
we're
hoping
to
see
some
of
that
electrification,
but
it
is
a
challenge
on
the
transportation
side,
I'm
going
to
look
into
that,
but
it's
not
surprising.
B
The
city
minneapolis
owns
40
000
spaces
of
parking
in
downtown
minneapolis.
It's
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
city
is
quite
wealthy
relative
to
other
cities.
We
have
a
fair
amount
of
ownership
of
a
lot
of
properties
we
own
over
our
120
buildings.
You
know,
like
I
said:
40
000
parking
spaces
beyond
the
water
system,
that
supplies
to
many
other
communities
so
to
a
certain
extent
and
those
those
are
actually
managed
and
we
actually
manage
all
the
abc
ramps
as
well
too,
for
the
minnesota
department
of
transportation.
B
I'd
actually
like
us
to
think
about
having
that
as
a
as
a
topic,
because
I
wasn't
aware
that
they're
incentivizing
people
to
drive
in
with
the
spot
market
six
bucks,
because
that
is
as
you,
as
you
said,
antithetical
to
our
the
goal
of
getting
people
on
transit
and
reducing
vehicle
miles
traveled,
and
you
saw
we
got
to
reduce
vehicle
miles
travel
20
a
year
in
order
to
like
keep
up
with
the
climate.
You
know
to
keep
up
with
our
our
actual
scientific
based
climate
reduction
goals.
So
that's
that's
new.
B
J
I
know
we're
pressed
for
time.
I
just
have
a
question.
I
always
have
a
question
about
this
electrifying
and
changing
everything
to
electricity.
My
thing
is:
what
is
what
is
the
plan
to
get?
What
are
you
going
to
do
with
all
the
items
once
you
start
getting
rid
of
some
of
these
gas
gas
components
like
people
are
talking
about
changing
people
in
the
community's
homes
to
electricity
and
things
like
that
office,
buildings
and
things.
What
are
you
gonna?
J
What
are
the
plans
to
get
rid
of
that
the
stoves
or
the
furnaces
and
things
like
that?
My
that's
what
I'm
more
wondering
about,
and
somebody
had
told
me
well
we'll
just
let
somebody
else
worry
about
that
and
I
kind
of
got
appalled
about
that,
but
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering:
are
there
any
considerations
or
plans
when
this
change
comes
with
those
items.
B
Well,
I
will
just
say,
lastly,
that
that
is
to
my
knowledge
has
not
been
considered.
Actually,
I
will
say
that
there's
probably
good
opportunities
for
recycling,
but
I
don't
know
because
the
furnaces
are
quite
a
bit
of
metal
and
are
not
all
that
complicated.
B
As
far
as
like
lots
of
you
know,
lots
of
electronics
or
some,
of
course,
in
many
cases,
but
that's
a
good
question.
You
are
definitely
on
the
cutting
edge
of
how
that
would
would
happen
because
you're
right,
I
mean
we're
going
to
have
a
major
transition
in
the
next
10
years.
What
happens
with
all
that-
and
we
are
there's
lots
of
discussions
that
actually
solar
panels
are
required
to
be
recycled
in
minnesota.
The
mpca
has
a
whole
program
about
that.
B
It's
very
involved
they're
able
to
do
98
recycling,
pull
out
any
of
the
minor
materials
like
minor
amounts
of
mercury
or
other
things
that
might
be
included
and
recapture
that
and
that's
required.
So
it's
an
interesting
concept
is
to
I
will.
I
can
do
some
follow-up
on
it,
because
I've
got
some
really
great
smart
people.
I
work
with
that.
B
Maybe
have
thought
about
it,
but
you,
you
are
the
first
person
that
has
brought
that
topic
to
me
up,
even
though
I've
thought
about
electrification
and
for
for
two
three
years
now
about
what
that
means
and
changing
out
our
equipment.
I
have
not
thought
about
how
we
recycle
or
reuse
the
stuff
that
we
have.
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
Leslie
yeah,
that's
a!
It
is
a
a
cutting-edge
question
and
an
an
important
question
too,
to
think
about
the
appliances
and
also
the
the
natural
gas
infrastructure
that
exists
around
us
and
if
we're
gonna
get
off
of
gas,
how
can
we
utilize
that
existing
system?
That
is
not
carbon
intensive?
A
I
think
those
discussions
and
questions
are
are
starting
to
happen
and
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
how
they
fully
play
out.
We've
got
just
a
few
minutes
left.
I
don't
see
any
hands
up
at
the
moment,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
took
a
moment
to
or
kim
do
you
want
to
say
anything
about
that.
I
was
going
to
ask.
B
About
it,
I
I
know
we
we
went
around.
I
thought
this
has
been
a
really
good
discussion.
Overall,
we
have
a
lot
of
stuff
always
on
on
the
on
the
table.
Here.
B
There
are
google
links
in
the
agenda
that
please
add
thoughts
or
comments
in
regards
to
the
enterprise,
renewable
energy,
I'm
sorry
sustainable
building
policy
or
the
100
renewable
electricity
policy,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
I
could
ask
the
chair
to
entertain
me
for
a
moment
to
try
amenti
meter,
which
is
something
new
to
see
if
folks
can
just
sort
of
click
it
in
one
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
with
the
enterprise.
B
B
Let's
just
take
a
minute
to
see
if
if
this
can
work
with
folks
and
see
how
this
goes
just
to
kind
of
test
out
all
right,
we
got
one
already
coming
up
all
right.
B
For
for
anyone,
that's
on
the
on
the
phone.
It's
mentee
menteementi.com.
B
A
B
So
in
minneapolis
that
we
we
differentiate
because
of
the
fact
that
carbon
could
include
nuclear
fuel
and
the
city
of
minneapolis
has
taken
a
position
to
support
closing
down
nuclear
plants
when
they
their
current
licenses
expire
in
2030ish.
P
B
I
B
Yeah
and
we
have
it,
we
have
right
now
been
pushing
statewide
for
20
all
buildings
that
are
better
buildings:
legislation
by
2036
to
be
net
zero
energy.
Through
the
statewide
building
code,
I've
been
trying
to
get
the
city
of
minneapolis
to
commit
to
a
2030
goal
to
lead,
I'm
I'm
leaning
towards
us
getting
to
2025
because
of
the
ipcc
situation
that
just
came
out
last
week.
Honestly,
it's
like
I
mean
one
thing
we
have
control
over
is
setting
policy.
B
We
may
not
get
there,
but
that's
something
we
do
have
the
ability
to
do,
and
so
I
kind
of
feel
like.
Let's
do
what
I
have
the
ability
to
do
so.
That's
why
it's
it's
a.
I
agree
with
you,
though
I
mean
I
don't
know
about
the
expense
and
whether
it's
even
technically
feasible
in
in
some
cases.
You
know,
especially
here.
This
is
not
you
know
san
francisco,
where
it
stays
45,
but
you
know
even
at
its
coldest.
B
So
anyway,
I'm
sorry
we.
This
is
fun.
This
turned
out
really
good.
I
we
can
do
it.
I
know
I'm
a
little
bit
of
a
technology
novice,
but
I
thought
that
was
kind
of
fun
to
try
stuff
and
maybe
we'll
we'll
see
how
we
can
work
that
out
again.
There's
two
google
docs
that
are
available
to
give
your
comments
on
our
enterprise
sustainability
policy
that
we
sent
out
as
well
as
our
100
renewable
electric.
B
A
Definitely
I
just
want
to
jump
in
thanks,
so
much
kim
for
facilitating
and
and
all
the
substantive
work
you're
doing
and
offering
the
updates
to
to
major
projects
that
you
weren't.
Anticipating
doing
so,
I
really
appreciate
you
there
and
thanks
tess
to
for
the
reminder
on
on
having
those
on
the
agenda.
I
really
appreciate
that
too.
A
I
also
want
to
shout
out
stacy
miller
for
being
here
as
sustainability
staff
at
the
meeting
and
before
we
and
I
see
mark's
hand
was
up,
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
we
were
talking
about
having
working
groups
or
establishing
a
working
group
to
give
recommendations
on
science-based
targets.
A
You
don't
have
to
decide
right
in
this
moment,
but
if
that
is
something
you're
interested
in
email,
kim
and
aaron
and
myself
and-
and
I
think
the
goal
would
be
to
get
together
and
come
up
with
some
recommendations
which
would
guide
the
the
minneapolis
minneapolis,
updated
climate
action,
equity
plan
and
present
those
in
october.
B
Yeah,
that's
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
sort
of
just
set
the
high
level
goals
that
we're
going
to
go
at
and
kind
of
discuss
like
net
zero
carbon
net
zero
energy.
B
You
know
some
of
those
issues
and
make
a
recommendation
to
seac
in
october,
and
so
I
will,
I
will
send
out
an
email
in
the
next
day
or
two
to
the
full
cx
group
and
just
to
give
kind
of
give
you
a
heads
up
on
that
and
and
then
you
can
respond
individually
or
love
to
have
a
few
people.
B
If
you
you're
right
now
interested
in
that
we
just
want
to
get
together,
have
a
conversation
think
about
the
impacts
and
kind
of
make
a
recommendation
of
c,
because
this
is
it's
a
lot
of
factors
to
think
about
related
to
it.
So
it's
hard
to
do
it
with
a
larger
group
so
hoping
to
have
a
little
smaller
group
and
we
can
have
a
little
more
discussion.
L
J
Know,
thank
you.
This
is
leslie
not
to
interrupt
I'm
interested,
so
you
can
put
my
name
down
and
send
me
information
and
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
read
and
be
a
part
of
it.
Thank
you
for
the
invite.
O
A
One
minute
past
any
other
urgent,
outstanding
things,
people
anyone
needs
to
say
all
right.
Well,
thank
you
everyone,
so
so
much
for
this
yeah
really
robust
discussion
and
hope
everyone
has
a
good
month
and
stays
well.
A
B
Thank
you,
stacy.
Sorry,
we
didn't
get
your
introduction
in
but
appreciate
your
support.
Always
thanks
santa.