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B
B
B
Just
so,
everyone
is
aware
that
this
meeting
is
being
audio
recorded
and
a
transcript
is
being
kept
of
this
meeting
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started.
We
have
a
few
things
on
the
agenda,
but
since
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
joining
with
telephone
numbers-
and
we
might
not
know
everybody
on
the
call
we'll
go
through
a
quick
round
of
introduction
introductions
quickly.
B
I
can
go
ahead
and
start.
My
name
is
heather
gillick,
and
I
am
one
of
the
co-chairs
for
this
bac
5e
committee.
I
also
work
at
the
minneapolis
public
health
department
and
one
of
my
favorite
bike
rides
as
really
starting
to
get
used
to
my
fat
bike
as
we're
moving
into
the
season
where
that's
going
to
become
useful.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
over
the
weekend
heading
up
toward
monticello
to
take
a
gander
at
some
of
the
leaves
and
get
out
in
the
woods
a
bit
go
ahead
and
pass
it
on.
C
D
Hi
everybody,
I'm
allison
bell,
I'm
the
green
infrastructure
coordinator
with
the
city
of
minneapolis
and
I
was
invited
to
present
on
our
program
by
matthew
and
chris.
So
I'm
not
really
part
of
the
committee,
but
I'm
here
today
and
in
terms
of
fall
bike
rides
I'm
more
of
a
bike
commuter
and
I
have
to
keep
going
to
one
project
in
southwest
minneapolis,
so
I've
been
enjoying
taking
the
midtown
bike
route
down
there.
So
I
can
say
that
that's
been
good.
E
B
F
F
E
H
Hi,
I'm
dan
miller,
ward,
one
representative,
and
you
know
I've
been
skunked
the
last
two
weeks
I
haven't
gotten
on
the
bike
at
all,
but
tomorrow
I'm
planning
to
do
an
exhilarating
ride.
I'm
going
to
be
going
out
with
pillsbury
power
on
their
first
after
school
ride
and
it'll,
be
21,
kids,
strong,
so
I'll
have
I'll
be
scratching.
My
head
afterwards.
I
Hi
matthew,
deardahl
he's
he
him
pronouns.
My
title
is
bicycle
and
pedestrian
coordinator
in
public
works
and
my
favorite
bike
ride
is
going
to
be
back
from
the
bike
shop.
Once
I
take
my
flat
tire
bike
to
get
it
fixed,
which
is
it's
been
busy,
so
it's
been
about
a
week,
but
thankfully
I
have
a
backup
bike
as
well.
K
Hey
everyone
alyssa
schaffman,
I
use
she
and
they
pronouns,
I'm
the
ward
9
rep
to
the
bicycle
advisory
committee
and
also
the
full
committee
chair
and
my
bike
ride.
I'm
looking
forward
to
this
fall
is
my
sister
and
her
wife
are
going
to
have
a
baby,
and
I
am
so
excited
whenever
they
have
that
baby
due
november
5th
to
bike
over
to
their
house
in
st
paul
and
visit
the
baby.
For
the
first
time.
L
Hi
everybody
I'm
jenny,
borden,
I
use
she
her
pronouns
and
I
represent
minneapolis
public
schools
on
the
bicycle
advisory
committee
and
I
had
some
great
bike
rides.
Today.
The
bike
fleets
are
out,
we've
had
beautiful
weather,
and
so
I
was
with
both
pratt
school
and
bancroft
school.
Taking
some
lovely
neighborhood
rides.
A
M
That's
delightful:
this
is
natalie
natalie
wagner.
I
am
the
ward
10
representative
for
the
bac
and
I
have
done
that
ride
before
with
a
friend
or,
and
it's
a
lot
but
great
not
as
much
as
running
the
marathon
and
I
like
just
biking
anywhere
around
the
river
or
any
of
the
lakes
at
this
time
of
year,
because
I
feel,
like
you
get
such
a
great
view
of
all
the
leaves
so
yeah,
it's
been
a
beautiful
one.
So
thanks.
B
Great
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
to
our
folks
who
are
on
the
phone
and
if
anybody
wasn't
here
to
hear
the
prompt,
we're
just
doing
names
and
pronouns
and
your
connection
to
the
bac
or
the
things
that
are
on
the
agenda
today
and
then
a
favorite
fall
bike
ride
or
that
you've
taken
or
you
are
planning
to
take.
And
so
if
anyone
on
the
phone
is
muted.
B
N
O
Q
B
S
M
F
F
T
B
K
Thanks
heather-
and
this
is
actually
going
to
be
more
of
a
joint
conversation
with
with
me
and
both
the
matthews.
Thank
you
to
matthew,
hendricks
and
matthew
deardahl
for
being
part
of
the
discussion
on
greenways.
Today
I
have
my
camera
off
because
I've
been
having
some
internet
connectivity
issues.
So
for
those
of
you
who
can
see
video,
sorry,
I'm
not
on
video,
you
know
really
wanting
to
take
today
as
an
opportunity
to
revisit
the
concept
of
greenway
they
have.
K
This
has
come
up
over
and
over
again
for
the
bicycle
advisory
committee
over
the
years
and
with
so
many
many
new
folks
being
a
part
of
the
committee
with
it
being
the
time
of
year
that
we
think
about
start
thinking
about
the
capital,
improvements
process
and
the
budget
for
2022
and
beyond.
I
think
it's
a
really
great
opportunity
for
all
of
us
to
get
regrounded
in
some
of
the
discussion
that
has
happened
and
a
lot
of
the
organizing
that
has
happened
around
greenways
the
last
number
of
years.
K
K
But
you
know,
I
would
say,
usually
in
a
more
like
global
way.
People
think
about
greenways,
as
as
kind
of
linear
parks.
Right,
that's
like
part
of
where
the
green
part
of
greenways
comes
from,
that
they
are
often
traffic,
free
car,
free
corridors
and
so
they're
really
focused
on
walking
and
rolling
and
biking
and
prioritizing
those
over
car
travel.
K
I
remember
we
had
a
robust
discussion
at
the
bac
and,
like
everyone
really
had
a
different
understanding
of
what
was
or
wasn't
a
greenway,
and
it
didn't
always
line
up
with
what
the
city
thinks
of
as
a
greenway.
So
but
so
that's
kind
of
a
loose
and
flexible
working
definition,
but
I
think
it's
useful
to
start
with,
like
the
basics
of
what
we're
thinking
about
and
kind
of,
acknowledge
that
everybody
thinks
about.
K
Greenways
will
be
differently,
and
I
think
you
know
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
highlight
before
we
jump
into
some
of
the
policy.
Specifics
is
why
they
matter
right
they
matter,
because
they
are
those
connectors.
They
tend
to
be
really
long
corridors
and
ones.
People
can
rely
on
when
we
talk
about
bicycle
and
pedestrian
planning.
You
know,
especially
with
bicycle
planning.
One
of
the
complaints
I've
seen
over
the
years
is
like
we
made
this
bikeway
and
it
doesn't
connect
to
anything
right.
K
It's
just
like
dead
ends
in
the
middle
of
nothing
and
so
thinking
about
the
the
importance
and
the
power
of
having
corridors
that
are
really
like
ones.
One
long
connection
that
people
can
rely
on,
but
there
are
also
opportunities
to
expand
green
space.
There
are
opportunities
to
take
space
back
from
cars
and
a
way
that
we
can
think
about
reimagining
our
streets
right,
like
so
many
folks,
look
at
the
midtown
greenway
in
particular,
and
and
hold
that
up
as
an
example
of
the
kind
of
transportation
we
can
have
as
a
city.
K
So
I
think
you
know
beyond
some
of
the
specifics
of
like
why
green
a
particular
greenway
is
important.
It's
also
good
for
us
to
realize
that,
like
greenways
greenways
matter
to
our
collective
imagination
and
are
really
important
so
and
matthew,
hendricks
will
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
this.
But
you
know,
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
have
greenways
in
minneapolis
is
because
community
folks
have
been
organizing
for
them
for
a
very
long
time
right.
They
are
not
something
that
has
been
largely
speaking
driven
by
city
process.
K
They
have
been
driven
by
people
who
are
walking
and
biking
and
really
interested
in
having
these
corridors.
Where
we're
like
it's
easy
for
people
to
plan
a
trip
in
the
winter
on
a
bike
or
it's
easy
for
folks
to
feel
like.
Yes,
I
can
take
my
kids
out
on
their
balance,
bikes
on
the
street
right.
So
it's
it's
about
what
those
folks
have
been
sort
of
dreaming
and
scheming
and
demanding
of
the
city.
They're,
not
really.
A
city
driven
have
not
historically
been
sort
of
a
city
driven
project.
K
So
I
think,
given
that
it's
really
important
for
us
as
a
committee
to
think
about
how
do
we?
How
do
we
engage
and
how
do
we
continue
to
push
for
things
relative
to
greenways,
because
they're
not
they're,
not
sort
of
like
a
natural
thing
that
the
city
pushes
for
and
matthew?
I
don't
know
if
you
want
deer
at
all
if
you
want
to
characterize
that
a
little
differently,
but
I
think
that's
what
I
would
have
to
say
about
what
greenways
are
and
why
they
matter
and
why
they
matter
to
us.
J
J
So
the
north
side,
greenway,
is
about
a
four
mile
route
as
proposed
that
runs
north
and
south
through
the
center
of
north
minneapolis.
It
would
go
from
victory.
Memorial
parkway
at
the
north
end
to
glenwood
avenue
at
the
south
end
and
the
four
mile
route
would
connect
six
parks
and
four
schools
in
terms
of
the
timeline.
J
At
those
workshops
were
positive,
and
so
in
2012,
the
city
of
minneapolis
got
involved
with
support
from
a
ship
grant
and
they
held
some
additional
community
open
houses
and
did
some
more
detailed
surveying
during
the
open
houses
and
that
feedback
also
was
was
generally
positive,
not
unanimously
positive.
But
you
know
the
majority
of
the
comments
were
positive,
and
so
the
city
continued
to
pursue
other
funding
resources
for
more
in-depth
community
engagement
and
in
2013
blue
cross
blue
shield
made
a
significant
grant
to
the
city
of
minneapolis
and
funded
a
three-year,
very
extensive
engagement
process.
J
I
would
say
you
know
watching
projects
for
the
last
15
or
so
years.
This
is
one
of
the
more
robust
community
engagement
processes,
I've
seen
for
any
any
project
in
the
city,
so
this
was
a
you
know,
a
three-year
process.
It
involved
a
lot
of
different
ways
of
getting
involved
and
it
culminated
in
a
one-year
pilot
project
on
five
blocks
of
irving
avenue.
J
J
So
a
couple
things
from
that
first,
you
know
this
was
definitely
a
long-term
project
and
you
know
that's
that's
clear
just
from
the
timeline,
but
I
also
want
to
emphasize
that
it
took
the
involvement
and
blood
sweat
and
tears
from
dozens
of
people
as
well
as
community
engagement,
involvement
from
hundreds
of
people,
giving
you
know,
responses
to
surveys
or
participating
in
events
to
get
this
project
on
the
map.
So
it's
not
a
it's.
J
J
So
it's
a
north-south
route
again
and
it
connects
a
number
of
parks.
It
starts
at
gold
medal
park
and
connects
all
the
way
down
to
pearl
park
and
it
also
connects
a
number
of
trails.
So
this
route
makes
connections
to
the
west
river
parkway
trails,
the
midtown
greenway,
the
river
lake
greenway
at
40th
street,
as
well
as
the
minnehaha
parkway
grand
round
trails,
and
there
are
two
schools
along
the
route,
so
there's
anderson
and
then
also
the
wilder
school
complex
as
well.
J
So
in
terms
of
the
community
engagement
for
this
project,
the
midtown
greenway
coalition
board
and
staff
have
long
advocated
for
improved
connections
to
powderhorn
park
and
stewart
park,
and
I
think
that
advocacy
dates
back
to
the
early
2000s,
if
not
earlier,
and
in
2013
tim
springer
who's.
The
former
executive
director
of
the
midtown
greenway
coalition,
partnered
with
tool
design
group
who's,
a
design
and
engineering
consultant
company
to
release
a
report
that
summarizes
the
planning
and
community
engagement
up
until
2013.
J
and
then
in
2014,
twin
cities.
Lisk
supported
another
wave
of
community
engagement
that
involved
a
survey
of
local
residents
about
design
and
route
preferences,
and
the
report
from
that
work
was
attached
to
this
meeting's
agenda
and
if
you
haven't
been
able
to
access
it,
you
know
you
can
reach
out
to
somebody
on
this
call
or
in
this
meeting,
and
we
can
make
sure
you
can
get
a
copy
of
that
report
and
then
in
2016,
blue
cross
blue
shield
funded
a
series
of
five
block
parties.
J
J
J
Members
of
the
bac
and
click
have
expressed
interest
in
accelerating
greenway
funding
and
greenway
build-out,
and
this
could
be
accomplished
through
project-specific
funding
or
through
a
general
greenway
funding
program,
and
the
same
same
thing
I
mentioned
about
the
north
side.
Greenway
applies
to
the
south
side,
greenway
in
the
sense
that
many
people
were
involved
in
the
planning
and
advocacy
up
to
now,
and
it
takes
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
momentum
to
get
something
like
this
off
the
ground
and
then
in
terms
of
general
general
kind
of
background
or
perspective.
J
J
It's
a
two
block
stretch
of
street
that
was
converted
to
park
in
the
late
70s,
and
it's
a
good
demonstration
of
how
how
quiet
and
how
pleasant
and
how
functional
a
street
can
be
if
it's
converted
to
a
park,
and
it
remains
popular
after
40
years.
So
it's
clearly,
you
know
a
good
example
of
what
can
go
well.
That
kind
of
a
design
but
milwaukee
avenue
is
not
the
only
way
that
a
greenway
could
be
accomplished.
I
I
I
So
we
have
examples
all
over
the
city.
You
know
the
riverside
greenway
17th
ave,
the
president's
bike
boulevard,
queen
ave
bike
boulevard
upcoming
in
in
north
and
so
a
variety
of
others.
So
this
you
know
my
my
take
on
neighborhood
greenways
is
it's
basically
bicycle
boulevards,
but
better
than
we
have
now,
maybe
much
better
than
we
have
now.
So
just
do
much
more
robust
treatments
and
then
around
that
same
time,
2019
2020.
I
We
were
working
on
the
transportation
action
plan,
and
so
we
were
able
to
take
the
findings
and
the
understanding
of
greenways
from
that
study
and
incorporate
into
actual
city
policy,
which
is
our
transportation
action
plan.
And
that's
a
10-year
plan
that
outlines
what
the
city
will
focus
on
for
transportation
and
there's
a
whole
topic.
We
call
it
or
actually
in
the
bicycling
topic,
there's
a
whole
strategy
around
neighborhood
greenways.
I
That
was
also
shared,
and
I
think
something
that's
interesting
to
note
is
that
within
that
is
you
know,
we
say
we'll
implement
neighborhood
greenways
in
including
new
like
brand
new
routes,
which
northside
and
southside
greenway
would
be
a
part
of,
and
then
also
upgrade
existing
bike
boulevards.
That
may
not
be
quite
as
optimal
for
walking
and
biking.
So
I
think
that's
a
cool
part
of
that.
I
You
know
we
do
call
it
high
in
terms
of
difficulty,
just
because
it's
not
something
that
we
have
a
clear
funding
mechanism
for
and
and
an
approach
and
then
also
our
time
frame.
For
that
we
say
you
know
in
years
four
or
seven
in
the
plan.
So
basically
it's
something
that
we
are
going
to
figure
out
an
approach
in
in
the
coming
years,
but
also
we
have
as
matthew
noted.
We
also
have
several
things
in
the
works,
and
so
there's
there's
multiple
ways
that
we
can
implement.
I
F
K
K
So
that's
something
that
stood
out
to
me.
I'm
curious
if
there
are
other
things
standing
out
to
other
folks.
Someone
would
also
welcome
other
folks
who
are
calling
in
many
of
you
mentioned
living
on
the
route.
If
there
are
things
that
you
want
to
share
about
your
experience
of
living
on
the
route,
I
think
now
would
be
a
great
time
to
to
chime
in,
but
I
think
it's
just
open
discussion.
R
R
We
got
together
when
we
saw
actually
jori
angstrom
pulled
us
together
because
of
the
kind
of
near
misses
related
to
children
and
and
speeding
traffic
and
other
scoff
law
behavior,
and
we
tried
to
address
that
and
became
aware
that
actually,
multiple
agendas
could
be
served
by
actualizing
these
kind
of
dusty
plans.
They
seem
to
us
at
least
for
the
north
south
greenway,
for
the
in
particular
our
south
greenway,
along
10th
avenue.
R
We
want,
you
know
we're
we're.
We
join
up
for
different
reasons.
Some
folks
are
mostly
interested
in
in
neighborhood.
Safety
related
to
traffic
and
others
are
are
folks
who
use
bicycles,
all
the
time
for
for
transit,
but
we
we
see
common
cause
in
suggesting
our
set
of
blocks
along
10th
avenue
between
lake
and
wilder
school.
R
R
Climate
change
is
real
and
you
know
we
think
that
we're
in
a
particularly
good
space
to
model
this
for
others,
as
as
you
get
these
long
thought
about
plans
together
and
in
our
particular
circumstances,
we've
got
the
current
situation
at
george
floyd
square
and
the
10th
avenue
just
a
little
further
south
from
us
and
and
connecting
with
it
the
anderson
school
green
school,
the
the
whole.
How
do
you
connect
from
the
midtown
greenway
to
schools?
R
R
So
we
wanted.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
what
we
can
as
people
who
live
here,
to
really
press
that
this
pilot,
this
south
side
greenway,
comes
to
pass,
and
we
want
to
ask
you:
what
is
it?
How
do
we
make
this
go
forward
again,
18
years?
You
just
think
about
a
kid
growing
up.
In
that
time
I
mean
we
in
talking
to
neighbors.
R
R
V
B
V
Hear
you
hi,
this
is
jory
angstrom
yeah.
I
agree
with
what
amy's
saying
and
living
on
10th
avenue,
31st
there's
a
lot
of
activity
going
on
between
biking
and
family
and
traffic,
and
I've
seen
a
lot
living
on
the
corner
of
30,
32nd
and
10th.
So
just
just
thinking
that
something
does
need
to
be
done,
for
you
know,
for
families
and
people
that
do
you
know
ride
their
fights
and
everything.
So
everybody
can
feel
safe
because
the
traffic
around
here
is
to
be
ridiculous,
so
it'd
be
nice.
W
W
My
understanding
from
the
presentation
is
that
we
don't
have
money
for
either
one
of
the
four
sections
right
now,
but
I
think
amy-
and
I
have
talked
about
about
this-
and
I
know
matthew-
you
know
about
this
mother
daredevil-
that
there's
certainly
specific
tactical
things
that
can
be
done
like
the
ballard
south
of
south
of
lake
street.
I
think
it's
on
10th,
10th
avenue
and
and
those
those
some
of
those
interventions.
W
I
know
the
limitations
about
what
can
be
slipped
into
the
scope
of
work,
but
it
does
appear
that
there
there
are
these
tactical
elements
and
they
can
be
simply
and
I'm
thinking
more
bicycle
boulevards,
but
they
can
be
tactical
elements
that
change
the
visual
signals
to
drivers
to
pay
attention
slow
down
so
trees,
greenery
signage
paint,
markings,
bulb
outs.
There
are
just
a
number
of
these
things
that
feel
relatively
cheap.
That
we
can
do
before
we
have
a
a
capital
budget
for
an
entire
greenway
or
one
section
of
a
grainway.
W
K
Thanks,
I
I
kind
of
want
to
bounce
off
that
a
little
bit.
I
think
the
idea
you
know
amy
is
the
word
pilot
and
thinking
about
matthew
hendricks.
He
referenced
that
there
was
like
a
pilot
project
on
the
north
side,
greenway
right,
and
that
was
part
of
what
catapulted
that
project
into
actually
getting
on
the
capital
agenda,
and
so
thinking
about
how
can
we?
K
How
can
some
of
the
things
philip's
bringing
up
around
sort
of
like
short-term
tactics,
also
relate
to
this
idea
of
like
a
pilot
for
the
south
side
greenway
before
we
get
to
this
reconstruction
phase,
so
that
you
know
we
have
a
sense
of
like
what
it
will
be
like
before
we
do
the
reconstruction
there's
so
much.
We
see
over
and
over
again
in
the
reconstructions
where
we're
like.
K
Well,
we
reconstructed
that
and
then
two
years
later,
we
wish
we'd
known
x
about
this,
and
we
would
have
done
this
part
of
it
totally
differently
and
so
thinking
about
how
can
we
both
serve
some
of
those
shorter
term
safety
needs,
but
also
like
make
the
eventual
project
that
we
know
we
want
to
do
and
we'll
keep
advocating
for
better
by
doing
something.
That
is
more
like
a
pilot
or
a
demonstration
in
intention
with
some
of
the
short-term
things
that
philip
was
bringing
up,
see
brie
has
a
hand
up.
J
You
know,
what's
the
threshold
of
support,
that's
needed
in
order
to
make
that
change?
The
other
thing
I'll
say
is,
I
think
the
northside
greenway
was
more
controversial
in
the
early
planning
stages
than
the
south
side.
Greenway
was
because
there
was
less
familiarity
with
any
kind
of
precedent,
and
so
when
we
talked
to
folks
in
north
minneapolis,
who
lived
close
to
the
37th
avenue
greenway,
which
is
a
short,
east-west
greenway,
where
the
street
was
closed
to
deal
with
some
stormwater
issues
and
some
flooding.
J
You
know
right
in
that
area.
It
was
easier
for
residents
to
envision
what
a
north
side
greenway
could
look
like,
because
there
was
an
example
right
there,
but
that's
a
small
project,
and
so
it
doesn't
have
the
same
sweep
as
the
midtown
greenway.
So
when
we
were
presenting
at
different
kind
of
meetings
in
south
minneapolis-
and
we
said
greenway,
there
was
an
just
an
automatic,
very
positive
starting
point
in
south
minneapolis,
whereas
in
north
minneapolis
it
was
more.
J
J
C
I
So
that's
always
something
that
stuck
with
me
from
that
that
year-long
pilot
is
like
it
was
just
like
it
was.
It
was
fairly
positive,
but
also
there's
there
are
people
that
were
against
it
and
I'm
not
saying
that's
bad,
like
I
think
if
people
have
like
concerns,
you
know
when
we,
you
know
if
we
go
back
and
we're
doing
conceptual
design
on
a
on
a
project
we
want
to
like
make
sure
we
accommodate.
I
You
know
different
aspects
that
that
may
present
themselves
as
concerns,
whether
it's
parking
or
or
lighting,
or
you
know,
maintenance
or
whatever,
whatever
they
may
be.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
mean
to
like
cast
negative
opinions
about
it
negatively,
but
just
that
there
was
fairly
robust,
positive
support
for
it.
K
I
see
dan
has
his
hand
up,
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
I
know
that
folks
on
the
phones,
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
use
the
raise
hand
function
like
those
of
us
who
are
on
the
bicycle
advisory
committee.
So
just
want
to
pause
and
see
if
there's
anyone
else
on
the
phone
who
would
like
to
chime
in,
and
I
will
leave
a
longer
than
comfortable
pause
for
that.
O
We
can
hear
you
okay,
great
thanks.
I
introduced
myself
earlier,
did
not
say
my
favorite
bike
ride,
which
this
summer
has
been
sundays,
with
my
son,
sam
who's,
three
years
old
and
we've
been
biking
to
different
minneapolis
parks.
I
lived
just
down
the
street
from
jory
on
32nd
and
elliott
and
just
wanted
to
kind
of
reinforce
what
she
said
around
safety
being
on
the
corner.
I
get
to
see
a
lot
of
the
bicycle
and
pedestrian
traffic
that
goes
down
32nd
to
potterhorn
park,
and
it's
really,
you
know
beautiful.
O
O
O
A
lot
of
them
say
are
just
amazed
that
we
have
this
amazing
gigantic
park
just
right
here
in
south
minneapolis,
and
you
know
they
say
if
this
park
was
in
lots
of
other
cities
would
be
like
the
premier
park
of
the
city
and
we're
just
lucky
in
in
you
know,
minneapolis
to
have
so
many
great
ones
and
to
have
them
connected
through
the
greenways,
I
think,
would
be
a
real
value-add
above
and
beyond
the
safety
and
traffic
calming
that
it
would
provide
as
well.
So
thank
you.
K
P
Hi,
yes,
my
name
is
juron
gustav
and
I
live
in
between
elliott
and
tenth
avenue.
My
house
is
the
only
one
that
faces
that
street
and
I
live
right
next
door
to
jory
and
just
up
the
street
from
lee
and
and
I
pretty
much
see
all
the
activity
as
as
31st
street
is
our
32nd
street
is,
is
a
major
corridor
to
the
park
from
chicago
avenue
and.
N
P
P
Q
Q
P
Q
H
H
One
thing
that
I
think
is
worth
considering
for
the
long
game
is:
each
year
there
is
a
public
hearing
of
the
capital,
long
range
improvement
committee,
where
they
take
both
written
comments
as
well
as
in
an
in
an
informal
session
as
well
as
comments
that
go
into
the
mayor's
budget
report.
They
show
up
there
and
one
thing
that
the
north
side
greenway
did
was
do
that
over
the
years
it
it
influenced
the
membership
of
click,
it's
a
31-member
33-member
panel
of
citizens
and
they
had
heard
enough
of
it
in
the
last
year.
H
In
oh
boy,
I
think
it's
2007
2000
2018.
about
20
people
from
the
north
side
went
to
that
public
hearing
and
they
each
had
two
minutes
to
talk
and
they
talked
from
their
heart
and
they
had
written
stuff.
They
had
verbal
stuff
that
all
went
into
the
mayor's
report
and
it
showed
up
the
next
year
to
have
phase
one
of
the
north
side
greenway.
So
it's
a
long
game,
but
you've
got
to
get
if
you
can
get
people
to
understand
that
that
it
still
exists
that
this
is
a
living
thing.
K
I
Yeah,
I
guess
I'll
go
quick.
I
just
think
one
thing
I
want
to
note.
I
guess
for
the
bac
and
folks
on
the
call
is
you
know
the
the
stretch
that
you're
specifically
referring
to
between
the
midtown,
greenway
and
34th
is
is
in
that
project
the
safe
routes
project
and
it
might
not
be
the
best
way
to
do
a
full
greenway.
So
it's
a
portion,
but
it's
a
better
answer
than
than
frankly.
I
So
I
just
wanted
to
note
that,
and
the
other
thing
is
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
capital,
our
capital
improvement
program,
recommendations
from
the
bac.
You
know
over
the
next
couple
months
on
the
agenda
today,
we'll
see
how
much
time
we
have
for
it.
But
you
know:
we've
talked
about
greenways
on
that
for
years,
and
so
maybe
there's
some
clarity
or
specificity.
We
want
to
add
to
that.
Based
on
what
we
heard
today.
K
So
thank
you
to
all
the
folks
who
called
in
as
well-
and
I'm
really
excited
for
us
to
continue
having
this
discussion
discussion
to
determine
how
we,
as
the
bac,
want
to
comment
on
some
of
the
things
matthew,
deardoll
just
brought
up
in
terms
of
a
demonstration
project
in
the
short
term,
the
safe
routes
to
school
project,
greenways
funding
in
the
next
capital
improvements
program
cycle,
because
I
think
this
is
this
is
very
important
stuff.
These
are
these.
I
Can
I
ask
a
quick
question,
perhaps
of
heather
just
noting
the
time
do?
Do
we
anticipate
ending
this
meeting
at
5
30
and
how
do
we
want
to
handle
the
two
two
items?
I
may
offer
that
the
cip
resolution
we
could
bump
if
we
wanted
to
end
at
5
30,
because
what
allison
has
to
say
is
super
interesting
and
we
should
give
that
time.
Maybe
chris
way
into.
A
Well,
just
so,
you
know
matthew,
we
did
change
this
committee
so
that
it
is
a
standing
committee
at
two
hours
with
the
intention
of
trying
to
shorten
it
to
an
hour
and
a
half
wherever
possible.
So
I
think
we're
we're
good
on
time.
Allison
shouldn't
feel
rushed.
We
should
have
whatever
discussion
there
and
the
cip
discussion
is
pretty
short
and
kind
of
more
of
like
a
offer.
If
anyone
wants
to
do
anything,
so
I
I
think
we'll
be
good
on
that
perfect.
Thank
you.
B
B
D
Start
so
just
for
a
little
background,
my
role,
it's
pretty
unique
in
the
city.
It
came
from
calls
from
the
community
and
from
calls
from
city
council
to
start
figuring
out
how
to
incorporate
green
infrastructure
on
our
transportation
projects
as
we
develop
in
the
city.
So
I
actually
sit
half
with
our
transportation
planners
at
half
with
our
surface
water
and
sewer
team.
D
So
we
aren't
just
able
to
put
green
infrastructure
everywhere.
All
the
time
we
look
at
a
site,
suitability
to
make
sure
that
what
we're
putting
in
the
ground
is
doing
what
we
inherently
want
it
to
do,
which
is
mimic
the
hydrology
of
the
land
before
we
developed
on
it
and
we
look
at
the
impact.
So
is
this
an
area
that
needs
water
quality
improvements?
Is
there
flooding
in
the
area?
Are
we
really
able
to
provide
a
major
benefit?
D
Another
important
thing
is
some
definitions,
so
I
said
there
are
two
buckets
for
the
green
infrastructure
program.
Voluntary
and
regulatory.
Our
green
infrastructure
can
look
like
two
different
things.
We
call
it
either
sustainable
landscaping
or
green
stormwater
infrastructure,
so
overall,
greening
or
green
infrastructure
is
the
attempt
to
mimic
the
natural
hydrology
of
the
land
before
we
developed
on
it.
So
basically
it's
our
key
to
continue
to
develop,
because
we,
you
know,
we.
D
I
mentioned
the
two
ways:
we
prioritize
green
infrastructure
in
the
city.
This
is
just
a
glimpse
at
some
of
the
maps
we
have
in
front
of
us
when
we're
making
decisions
about
green
infrastructure
on
the
left.
We
have
our
overall
that
looks
at
those
you
know
the
soils.
Are
there
any
contaminated
contaminated
soils?
D
Are
there
good,
infiltrating
soils
and
it
looks
at
our
water
quality
model
so
where
our
highest
needs
for
water
quality,
and
as
I
mentioned,
it
looks
at
our
equity
factors,
especially
putting
a
special
emphasis
on
areas
like
the
green
zones,
but
you'll
notice
in
that
map
that
places
like
north
minneapolis
show
up
a
little
redder
than
we'd
want
green.
Is
you
know
our
high
priority
areas?
So
that's
due
to
a
lot
of
factors
with
suitability.
So
there's
not
great
soils
up
there.
It's
it's
heavily
industrialized.
D
So
it's
not
what
we
commonly
think
of
as
suitable
for
green
infrastructure.
So,
in
order
to
combat
that,
we
came
up
with
the
map
on
the
right,
which
is
our
sustainable
land,
sustainable
landscaping
index
and
that
just
looks
at
tree
canopy,
vegetation
and
proximity
to
parks.
So
that
allows
us
to
to
really
understand
where
and
which
parts
of
the
cities
we
need
to
be
investing
in
just
greening
practices,
and
maybe
storm
water
takes
a
back
seat.
D
The
other
biggest
tool
I
have
to
get
green
infrastructure
on
projects
is
this
new
stormwater
ordinance.
So
historically
we
have
had.
We
have
exempted
linear
or
transportation
projects
from
having
to
meet
any
of
our
stormwater
ordinances
in
the
city
due
to
some
changes
in
the
state
and
national
regulations
that
is
no
longer
allowed.
So
we
now
our
linear
projects
do
trigger
the
ordinance
if
they
disturb
the
the
amount
of
area
required
to
trigger
the
ordinance.
So
that's
brand
new
that
we
even
have
to
look
at
the
ordinance
for
the
transportation
projects.
D
The
second
big
change
is
that
it
used
to
require
that
you
disturbed
an
acre
of
land
before
you
triggered
the
requirement
and
we've
cut
that
in
half,
which
was
just
a
move
to
be
progressive
in
the
city
and
to
understand
our
big
challenges.
So
now,
if
you
disturb
half
an
acre,
you
have
to
meet
the
storm
water
ordinance
so
just
high
level
with
the
stormwater
ordinance
it
starts
next
year.
D
So
projects
going
in
the
ground,
starting
in
2022,
will
have
to
meet
the
requirements
if
they
trigger
the
ordinance
and
there's
three
big
parts
of
the
ordinance.
There's
a
volume
control,
so
we
need
a
certain
amount
of
water
to
stay
on
the
site.
There's
a
peak
discharge
rate
control,
which
means
we
don't
want
water,
leaving
the
site
any
quicker
than
it
was
before.
We
did
construction
and
then
there's
a
water
quality
component
where
we're
trying
to
remove
certain
pollutants
from
the
water.
D
So,
unlike
kind
of
layman's
terms,
the
volume
control
usually
means
we're
infiltrating
so
we're
finding
green
spaces
to
let
the
water
go
and
soak
into
the
ground.
There's
a
few
other
ways
to
reduce
volume
of
water
tree
canopy
is
actually
one
of
the
best
and
pretty
robust
ways
to
reduce
the
stormwater
volume
on
a
site,
so
that
works
great
for
all
of
our
initiatives.
D
As
I
mentioned
that
rate
control,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
water's
not
leaving
too
fast
and
then
remove
pollutants
on
most
of
our
transportation
projects
that
we're
doing
any
of
those
pedestrian
improvements
and
safety.
Those
are
really
not
gonna,
be
concerned
with
rate
control,
so
we're
just
looking
to
do
volume
and
water
quality
control.
D
So
things
like
we
are
always
keep
in
mind
and
we
design
with
our
pedestrian
and
bike
clear
zones,
so
we're
never
trying
to
reduce
those
widths,
we're
always
looking
at
the
transition
from
our
pedestrian
and
bike
spaces
into
our
green
infrastructure.
So
the
slopes
are
really
important,
making
sure
we
don't
have
a
steep
drop
off,
making
sure
that
we
don't
just
have
a
drop.
D
We
have
rules
in
place
that,
if
you
have
more
than
a
six
inch
drop,
you
need
a
vertical
barrier
and
that
we
only
allow
drops
up
to
18
inches
and
those
obviously
would
have
to
have
some
sort
of
barrier
and
talking
with
a
lot
of
bikers,
especially
with
matthew.
I
know
we
are
trying
to
reduce
or
eliminate
the
times
where
we
have
that
vertical
barrier
just
to
not
introduce
a
tripping
hazard.
So
we've
come
up
with
some
unique
ideas
on
how
to
do
that.
D
So
all
the
way
on
the
left
is
would
be
the
bike
lane,
and
then
I
mentioned
trying
to
reduce
those
vertical
barriers.
You'll
see
we
have
a
flush
curve
so
to
separate
the
bike
from
the
green
infrastructure
just
a
flat
concrete
area.
It's
24
inches,
which
gives
you
plenty
of
additional
space,
and
then
we
even
provide
a
six
inch
flat
space
but
relatively
flat
as
part
of
that
trend,
just
transition
down
and
then
you'll
see.
D
We
only
allow
three
to
one
slopes
which
are
pretty
mild
down
to
the
bottom,
and
then
this
depth
would
have
to
be.
You
know,
six
inches
or
less
so,
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
sense
of
everything
we
keep
in
mind
when
we're
designing
these
and
then
also
how
these
can
work
together
really
well,
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
show
a
couple
examples
of
where
we're
combining
that
you
know,
wherever
our
planners
are
extending
the
curb
we're
trying
to
maximize
what
we
can
do
in
that
space.
D
D
Instead
of
concrete,
we
just
push
them
to
put
native
grasses
in
and
once
we
get
our
our
mowers
on
board
with
not
mowing
it
will
look
a
little
bit
better,
but
it's
still
a
green
space
and
then
on
the
right
is
a
project
up
in
hoyer
heights,
northeast
minnesota,
minneapolis.
These
are
bump
outs.
They
intercept
storm
water
and
infiltrate
into
the
into
through
the
bioretention
media
clean
up.
All
the
pollutants
hold
the
water
back
to
reduce
some
flooding
downstream
and
then
they're
planted
with
native
plantings.
D
That
you
can
see
are
doing
really
well
and
I
I
should
have
included
the
picture.
You
know
some
residents
did
not
want
native
planting,
so
we
put
sod
in
those
places
and
it
was
pretty
delightful
to
see
during
the
drought
that
those
all
that
sod
had
died,
and
this
is
what
these
native
plantings
looked
like,
so
that
was
kind
of
a
good
commentary
there.
So
that
was
my
overview.
I
wanted
to
leave
time
if
there
was
any
questions
or
anyone
wanted
to
dive
into
anything
specific.
H
Hello
allison,
thanks
for
the
great
presentation,
I
tried
to
pull
up
a
photo,
but
I
I
can't
add
it
to
the
chat
and
but
wonderful
work
on
johnson
street
northeast
between
18th
avenue
and
lobby,
and
they
are
putting
in
native
plantings
along
that
stretch.
That
half
mile
stretch-
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
fantastic.
D
Q
W
Yeah
again,
thank
you
alison.
It's
I
mean
it's
great
to
see
the
systematic
way
that
you're
sort
of
working
in
green
infrastructure
elements,
the
one
that
sort
of
jumped
out
to
me
and
I'm
thinking
about
mill
and
overlay
projects
is,
is
a
boulevards
where
you
just
have
your
typical
sort
of
high
mounded
grass
and
it
obviously
better
to
to
have
a
a
scooped.
You
know
concave
profile
so
that
you
have
water
pouring
off
of
a
pedestrian
path
or
a
bicycle
path.
W
You
know
into
well,
ideally
something
other
than
just
a
turf
grass
there,
but
it
is
it.
I
don't
know.
Is
it
in
within
a
scope
of
work
for
a
million
overlay?
Is
it
does
it?
Is
it
possible?
Has
it
been
done
can't
be
possible
to
while
you've
got
equipment
on
the
streets?
You
know
scoop
out
this.
You
know
convex
mound
of
crappy
turf
grass
and
do
something.
D
D
Exactly
so,
I
can
say
that
the
we
are
working
on
different
approaches
on
full
reconstruction
projects
or
any
that
already
are
disturbing
the
boulevard
where
we
have
to
restore
them.
Where
sod
will
basically
be.
You
know
somebody
has
to
request
it.
That
will
be
the
last
thing
that
we'll
put
in
and
we'll
start
with
a
depressed
area
of
native
plantings,
and
you
know
work
with
the
neighborhoods
to
figure
out
what
you
know,
what
look
they
they
want,
specifically
and
in
terms
of
mill
and
overlay
projects.
D
Q
L
Q
C
A
Yeah
sure
so
this
can
really
take
as
little
or
as
much
time
as
as
you
all
want.
We
we
were.
We
had
discussed
having
trey
and
mike
come
from
our
cip
team
to
kind
of
give
the
intro
to
the
cip,
which
goes
over
the
the
process
and
a
little
bit
of
what
happened
in
last
year
or
kind
of
the
current
mayor's
budget,
and
things
like
that,
as
well
as
a
little
bit
of
an
extra
focus
on
some
equity
work.
A
That's
going
into
the
cip
this
year,
unfortunately,
today
didn't
work
for
them,
so
so
that'll
happen
next
month.
I
so
I
just
wanted
to
leave
this
on
the
agenda
in
case
there
were
questions
or
comments.
Last
time,
I
think
many
of
you
were
here
last
time
and
gave
some
comments
that
I've
passed
on
to
them
about
what
to
include
in
that
presentation.
A
Yeah,
I
think
we
could
do
it
either
way
and
sorry.
I
can't
tell
if
my
camera
is
on
or
not
it's
like
kind
of
grayed
out,
but
but
anyway,
so
so
yeah.
We
could
go
over
the
last
year's
resolution
and
kind
of
use
that
as
a
starting
point
and
update
it.
If
folks
are
interested
in
that
we
haven't
heather
and
brie,
and
I
haven't
gotten
that
detailed.
A
A
So
we're
the
idea
is
that
this
year
we're
trying
to
get
the
conversation
rolling
a
little
bit
early.
I
think
if
we
could
be
putting
out
some
sort
of
draft
like
january
or
february,
is
probably
ideal
because
the
cip
team
and
we'll
hear
this
at
next
month,
but
the
cip
team
passes
their
their
recommendations
off
to
click
around
like
april
or
so
typically,
and
so
the
idea
is
that
the
resolution
from
the
bac
would.
H
So
you
know
I
I
felt
the
agenda
today
was
jam-packed
full
of
really
really
great
stuff
that
I
haven't
looked
at
for
a
while,
and
I
came
away
heartfelt
about
the
neighborhood
greenway
study
that
matthew
you
were
part
of.
I
think
it
still
stands
up.
I
know
that
was
in
process
2018.
I
think
it
was.
It
went
kind
of
went
dead
and
then
it
got
published
in
2019
or
that's
that's
the
publication
date
on
the
report
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
that
we
could
update
this
resolution.
H
H
I'm
real
concerned
about
hearing
all
these
four
to
seven
year,
dates
on
the
on
the
transportation
action
plan
list,
because
you
know
that's
liable
to
go
backwards
as
well,
so
I
would
and
just
to
make
this
quick.
I
would.
I
would
really
like
to
I'd,
be
willing
to
be
part
of
helping
to
draft
a
resolution
or
update
this
resolution.
H
I
And
I
just
wanna
say
I
really
appreciate
what
you
just
said,
dan
and
in
the
conversation
today
around
greenways
and
I
think,
over
the
coming
months.
So
you
know,
november
and
december.
I
think
we
should
have
some
fairly
like
specific
nuanced
conversations
about
some
of
these
topic
areas
that
are
that
are
still
in
your
recommendation
from
you
know,
previous
years,
that
haven't
been
implemented.
Yet
I
think
neighborhood
greenways
is
like
a
top
one
and-
and
I
think
we
should
wrestle
with
like
what
does
it
mean
like
to
implement
neighborhood
greenways?
I
You
know
we
talk
about
quick,
build
in
a
way
like
we're,
really
emphasizing
quick,
build
treatments
on
our
vision,
zero
network.
You
know
our
high
injury
network
and
in
like
how
do
we?
How
do
we
wrestle
with
that
priority?
We
add
neighborhood
greenways,
you
know:
do
we
split
up
some
resources?
I
mean
just
just
questions
like
like
things
that
I
think
would
be
fun
to
sort
of
get
into
in
a
in
a
full
agenda
item.
I
B
A
A
H
H
It
could
be
this
or
it
could
be
something
that
shows
adjustments
to
what
we
know
going
forward
this
upcoming
year.
So
I
think
in
combination.
What
chris
is
saying,
I
think,
being
able
to
give
the
group
something
and
whomever
feels
a
need
to
our
desire
to
help
out
would
be
a
way
to
jump
start
this.
So
we
have
a
a
really
good
conversation
about
this.
By
the
time
we
submit
it.
Thanks.
B
L
Yeah,
I
do
I'm
so
excited.
I'm
like
now
right
like
this
now
right,
yeah
so
well.
First,
just
to
know
tomorrow
is
walk
bike
and
roll
to
school
day.
I
was
just
gonna.
Get
you
guys
a
total
of
how
many
schools
are
signed
up,
but
it
looks
like
the
website's
crashed,
so
it's
30-some
schools
are
celebrating,
which
is
awesome,
but
other
awesome
news
is
minneapolis.
Public
schools
is
getting
a
fourth
bike
fleet
funded
through
the
city
of
minneapolis
public
works,
so
we're
super
excited.
I
think
this
will
be.
L
I
think
four
bike
fleets
will
be
enough
by
cleats
to
get
us
to
our
goal
of
universal
bike.
Education,
we're
just
over
50
with
the
three
we
have.
We
should
be
able
to
get
to
three-fourths
with
this
additional
fleet
and
then
helping
some
schools
move
into
school
fleets
and
working
with
partners
to
get
the
rest
so
super
exciting.
It
should
be
out
in
purchased
now
and
out
in
the
spring.
I'm
really
hoping
we
have.
The
original
is
white.
We
have
big
red.
I
Maybe
I'll
just
add
super
exciting.
You
know
when
we
were
going
through
the
transportation
action
plan
process
for
biking
having
the
the
goal
of
supporting
minneapolis
public
schools
in
their
effort
to
get
universal
back
education,
the
fourth
and
fifth
graders
through
walk
bike,
fun.
That
was
important
and
it
you
know
our
our
our
division.
We
were,
as
we
were,
like
sort
of
brainstorming,
different
ways
we
could
try
to.
P
B
H
H
H
So
on
any
parkway
where
a
different
speed
has
been
has
been
so
established
in
science
have
been
posted,
calling
attention
to
such
zone
no
vehicle
shall
be
driven
at
a
speed
greater
than
they
indicated
on
such
signs.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
people
aware
of
that.
You
can
write
a
comment
directly
to
instead
of
having
to
sign
up
and
be
there
verbally
and
if
you
would
like
to
add
your
input
into
supporting
lowering
the
speed
limit
on
parkways.
That
might
be
something
worthwhile.
H
H
H
It's
october
6th,
of
course,
is
tomorrow
and
the
deadline
is
at
noon.
So
it's
for
written
comments,
so
it
doesn't
need
to
be
a
lot,
but
I
think
it's
worth
if,
if
you
have
a
voice
in
that
to
respond
so
I'll
I'll,
try
to
email
us
out
to
the
general
group
matthew
dear
doll
is:
is
it
possible
for
you
to
do
that
because
I
don't
know
if
I've
got
an
updated
list,
because
everything
that
millicent
sends
is
blind
now.
A
At
all,
yeah
we
well,
we
just
can't
put
things
in
the
chat
that
are
related
to
content.
So,
like
you
can
use
the
chat
to
say
like
I
would
like
to
speak
next
or
like
I
have
something
or
like
even
we've
had
someone
say
like
here's,
the
resolution
language
just
sending
it
so
that
you
can
put
it
in
the
minutes
or
something.
But
if
it's
like
a
a
content
to
be
shared
thing,
we
just
shouldn't
get
in
the
habit
of
putting
things
in
the
chat
that
can
be
said
and
if.
A
So
yeah,
I
think
the
summary
was
great
and
I
think
in
the
future,
just
we
just
wouldn't
put
in
the
chat
would
just
say
that
summary
and
then,
if
there's
anything
that
could
be
put
along
in
an
email,
then
an
email
would
be
good,
but
it
just
starts
to
get
into
open
meeting
law
stuff
and
so
the
the
less
we
can
put
in
the
chat,
the
better.
Basically.
Q
K
Are
we
at
the
announcements
portion
of
the
agenda?
Sorry,
okay,
great!
I
assume
someone
already
reminded
all
of
us
that
open
streets
lindale
is
this
weekend.
Another
note
so
mndot
has
a
sustainable
transportation
advisory
council.
They
call
it
the
stack
because
we
can't
help
but
abbreviate
everything,
and
this
group
is
pretty
involved
in
setting
sustainable
transportation
goals
for
the
state.
They
are
now
accepting
applications
through
the
end
of
october
october
29th
for
their
2022-2023
advisory
council.
K
So
if
you
know
folks
who
are
very
concerned
with
sustainable
transportation
and
want
to
get
involved
in
making
policy
recommendations
at
the
state
level,
folks
should
should
take
a
look
at
that
and
sign
up,
and
then
I
will
just
also
note
generally,
I
do
maintain
an
active
email
list
of
members.
So
if
there's
ever
anything,
anyone
wants
to
send
is
an
announcement
to
the
full
membership.
I
have
that
email
list.