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A
The
regular
meeting
of
the
uptown
special
service
district
advisory
board
will
now
begin
good
morning.
My
name
is
mike
mclaughlin
and
I
will
be
facilitating
this
meeting
of
the
uptown
special
service
district
advisory
board.
Before
we
begin,
I
would
like
to
note
that
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
.021
to
the
declared
epidemic.
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
call
the
role
so
that
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum.
A
We
do
have
two
very
quick
housekeeping
items,
one
because
there
is
a
quorum
present.
There
is
the
adoption
of
the
agenda
and,
if
desired
by
the
board,
we
can
also
adopt
the
minutes
from
the
december
15th
meeting.
If
someone
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda
and
approve
the
minutes
of
the
december
15th
meeting,.
A
D
A
Jackie
knight,
I
approve
dan
trouble.
I
approve,
and
I
will
note
that
bob
sorensen
and
nick
walton
are
absent.
That
motion
to
approve
those
items
carries
and
are
approved
as
distributed
with
that
we.
Our
next
item,
is
the
public
comment
period
that
we
have
on
all
of
our
agendas.
I
will
note
that
we
have
not
been
joined
by
any
of
the
public,
so
we
can
table
that
motion
until
later
in
the
agenda.
Should
someone
from
the
public
join
us
and
would
like
to
address
the
board
with
that?
F
Thanks
again
for
having
us
this
morning,
as
you
mentioned
at
the
top
michael
jeanette
connell
from
kimberly
horn,
is
here
as
well
as
alan
klugman,
and
we
are
all
part
of
the
project
team
for
the
hennepin
avenue
project
so
similar
to
yesterday.
This
will
be
a
repeat
for
we
were
at
the
lowry
special
service
district
yesterday.
This
is
the
same
presentation,
so
we'll
just
run
through
this.
This
is
about
a
10-minute
presentation
and
then
we're
happy
to
address
questions
and
take
questions
following
it.
F
F
Adjustments
that
have
been
made
that
we
did
share
at
the
public
open
houses
in
early
march
just
remind
you
of
the
two
design
options
that
the
city
had
unveiled
as
part
of
the
draft
concepts
for
public
comment
until
last
friday,
and
then
jonette
will
conclude
with
just
a
quick
synopsis
of
the
public
engagement,
some
of
the
numbers
and
the
categories
just
sort
of
a
quick
look
at
at
what
we've
received.
So
far
through
the
public
engagement
process,
which
was
about
a
month
and
a
half
long.
F
So
in
terms
of
project
updates,
if
you
did
listen
or
participate
in
any
of
the
open
house
meetings
or
have
watched
any
of
that
material
since
early
march-
and
we
had
two
meetings
in
early
march
and
in
response
to
feedback
we'd
heard
not
just
from
councilmember
goodman
but
from
other
stakeholders
in
the
community,
there
was
definitely
concern
about
a
proposed
construction
start
date
for
the
project.
Initially,
we
had
thought
that
utility
construction.
Initially
we
proposed
that
utility
construction
would
need
to
begin
in
2022
and
then
the
full
street
reconstruction
would
begin.
F
In
2023
we
were
able
to
work
with
our
funding
partners,
specifically
our
federal
aid
funding
partners,
to
discuss
making
some
adjustments
in
the
schedule,
and
we
were
able
to
make
adjustments
at
the
back
end,
moving
utility
construction
a
full
year
into
2023
and
perhaps
a
bit
more
into
2024
and
then
also
street
reconstruction
from
2023
until
2024.
So
we've
got
about
a
year
adjustment
on
the
back
end.
F
If
you
look
up,
however,
under
the
2021
column,
you'll
see
that
there's
a
little
orange
star
that
is
in
the
month
of
august,
and
that
is
still
our
current
schedule.
In
terms
of
when
we
anticipate
bringing
a
preferred
layout
forward
to
city
council
for
approval,
I
do
think
it's
important
to
caveat
that.
Certainly
one
of
the
items
that
we've
heard
a
lot
about
during
the
public
comment
period
is
the
desire
to
adjust
that
timeline,
and
so
that
is
something
that
we
are
evaluating
now
and
we
will
report
back
right
now.
F
F
In
terms
of
the
options
that
we
currently
have
out,
I'm
sure
that
all
of
you
have
had
an
opportunity
to
take
a
look
at
the
two
options
that
were
put
out
as
draft
concepts
for
public
comment.
Just
kind
of
you
know
reminding
reminding
you
that
really
the
basis
of
this-
and
I
know
that
we
talked
about
this
at
past
meetings-
is
that
you
know
it's
really
based
on
the
policy
guidance,
so
the
foundation
for
both
option
one
and
option
two
are
the
policy
guidance
that
we
have
adapted
by
the
city?
F
Some
of
it
is
more
recent.
Like
the
transportation
action
plan,
the
street
design
guide,
we
also
have
complete
streets
vision,
zero
climate
action
plan,
so
all
of
these
policies
sort
of
converge
and
really
formed
the
foundation
or
the
basis
for
the
two
options
that
we
released
publicly,
as
well
as
the
technical
work
that
we've
done
for
the
corridor
as
well
again,
to
remind
you,
there's
too
many
design
options,
and
you
know
really.
F
So
this
was
the
first
option
that
we
had
shown
there's
a
cut
section
here
that
basically
shows
how
this
laid
out
along
the
corridor.
But
this
was
the
option
again
with
the
bikeway
just
kind
of
to
orient
yourselves
to
these
layouts.
First
you'll
see
that
there's
a
two-way
bike
facility,
a
separated
bike
facility
on
the
east
side
of
the
street.
F
You
can
also
see
the
brt
platforms
that
are
in
the
orange
color
on
both
sides
of
the
street,
and
then
you
can
also
see
the
pockets
of
off
street
parking
and
loading
that
are
that
exist
with
both
options
in
sort
of
those
blue
checked
areas,
also
just
to
illustrate
that
the
areas
that
appear
to
be
mostly
green
they're.
Actually
a
green
and
brown
check.
F
Those
areas
are
shown
in
the
boulevard
areas
as
well
as
the
median
areas,
and
those
are
areas
in
which
we
would
anticipate
incorporating
green
infrastructure,
so
sustainable
storm
water
features,
grass
trees,
plantings
things
of
that
nature.
Those
are
things
that
we
would
hope
to
include
as
part
of
the
layouts
with
each
of
these
options.
G
G
So
if
this
option
were
chosen,
the
city
would
make
improvements
on
another
nearby
north-south
facility
to
provide
that
bicycle
connection
and
then
also
with
improved
connections
between
that
facility
and
hennepin
avenue.
So
without
the
bicycle
facility
on
this
option,
you
can
see
there's
significantly
more
space
between
the
curb
and
the
building,
and
so
when
you
lay
that
out
on
the
corridor,
you
can
see
there's
a
lot
more
of
the
green
and
brown
czech
space.
G
G
G
G
So
through
monday
of
this
week,
we
received
2975
comment
during
that
six
week
period,
and
I
would
note
that
about
a
thousand
of
those
came
in
in
the
last
week
that
this
is
a
very
large
response
for
any
city
project
that
that's
a
huge
number
of
comments
received.
So
this
chart
is
just
showing
the
ways
that
those
comments
came
into
us.
It
will
still
take
us
some
time,
obviously
to
be
processing.
These.
G
Because
we
are
still
in
a
pandemic
and
we
aren't
able
to
do
face-to-face
engagement
or
face-to-face
meetings,
we
did
have
extra
efforts
to
get
the
word
out
about
the
project
and
make
sure
people
knew
about
it
and
that
we
were
requesting
feedback.
So
one
of
the
questions
that
we
asked
on
the
comment
forum
was
how
people
heard
about
the
project
and
the
virtual
engagement,
and
so
these
were
the
responses
about
how
people
heard
about
it,
with
social
media
and
email
notices,
both
from
the
city
and
other
organizations
being
the
largest
two
contributors.
G
I
would
note
that
within
a
given
category,
that
comment
could
have
been
positive
or
negative,
so,
for
example,
in
the
in
the
bicycle
category
that
you
see
is
25
percent.
That
comment
could
have
been
supporting
a
bicycle
facility
on
hennepin
or
not
supporting
a
bicycle
facility
on
hennepin.
They
get
grouped
into
that
bicycle
category.
H
C
I
guess
this
is
nicholas
hall
and
I
guess
I'll
start
with
a
question.
I
guess
the
concern
that
I'm
getting
back
from
a
lot
of
people
that
I've
talked
in
regards
to
this,
and
this
is
both
business
owners
and
residents
of
the
neighborhood
is
access
to
uptown
and
access
to
parking
for
businesses
and
properties
around
anaconda
avenue
the
biggest
concern
I'm
hearing.
C
Is
they
don't
want
the
rest
of
hennepin
to
turn
out
like
between
31st
and
lake
street,
on
hennepin
and
what
has
gone
on
with
that
project
and
how
it's
affected
the
local
businesses
that
surround
that
area
that
affects
everybody
else.
So
I
guess
that's
what
I've
been
getting
the
feedback
from
enormously
on
the
two
plans
that
they
don't
really
service?
What
our
community
needs.
F
I'll
just
offer
a
comment,
and
or
or
maybe
just
a
quick
response.
We
we've
definitely
heard
that
throughout
engagement.
You
know,
I
think
you
know
what
we've
tried
to
do
through
this
process
is,
is
be
transparent
about
the
fact
that
hennepin
is
going
to
look
different.
You
know
it's,
it's
not
going
to
be
the
same
as
what's
currently
out
there
now
have
we
gotten
it
just
right.
F
You
know
the
the
the
first
attempt
here
was
to
target
and
provide
parking
and
loading
throughout
the
corridor
in
areas
where
we've
seen
demands
or
heard
from
businesses
through
the
business
survey
that
we
conducted
earlier
this
year,
that
there
was
the
need
for
it.
So
we'll
we'll
continue
to
do
that
through
this
process.
But
thank
you
for
your
comments
and-
and
it
definitely
we've
heard
this-
this
common
theme,
specifically
from
from
businesses
and
from
residents
as
part
of
this
engagement
process.
H
This
is
dan
trouble
just
to
kind
of
follow
up
on
that
thought.
So
so
what
is
the
I
mean?
You've
got
the
two
options
here.
What
is
the
rest
of
the
process
I
mean?
Is
there?
Are
there
arguments
to
be
made
that
hey?
It
sounded
like
from
your
last
comments
that
there
are
arguments
to
be
made
that
hey,
let's
shift
the
drop
off
or
the
parking
area
down
from
one
area
to
the
other.
F
Yeah
in
terms
of
process,
maybe
I'll
start
and
jonah
and
alan
feel
free
to
chime
in
I
mean
the
process
really
right
now
is
that
you
can
see
we.
We
received
a
lot
of
comments.
I
think
we've
read
all
of
the
emails
that
have
come
in,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
other
comments
that
we
need
to
evaluate
through
this
process,
and
you
know
3000
comments
is
a
lot
of
comments
to
receive
on
any
project,
and
so
we
really
need
to
dive
into
those.
F
Discussions
about
you
know
what
sort
of
adjustments
we
can
make
in
response
to
the
public
comments
that
we've
received.
I
I
do
also
want
to
acknowledge
that
you
know
for
all
the
comments
and
comments
that
we
get
about
businesses
and
parking.
You
know
there
there's
you
know
the
exact
opposite
comment
about
it
in
some
cases
and
every
comment
in
between
and
so
we're
really.
F
We
really
have
quite
a
task
in
front
of
us
as
we
move
forward,
as
we
recommend
adjustments
to
whatever
preferred
concept
moves
forward.
You
know,
as
jeanette
articulated
as
part
of
you
know
the
the
second
option.
We
have
more
flexibility
than
we
do
with
the
first.
Just
given
the
fact
and
the
reality
of
space
constraints,
we
can't
make
more
space
in
the
corridor
beyond
what
we
have
and
really
you
know,
we'll
take
these
comments.
We'll
make
some
recommendations
about
adjustments
that
need
to
be
made.
F
We've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
with
specific
businesses
that
have
reached
out
to
us.
We
know
the
businesses
that
have
off
off-street
parking
right
that
have
surface
parking,
lots
or
or
ramps
that
accompany
their
use,
and
we're
also
aware
of
the
small
businesses
along
the
corridor
that
don't
have
parking.
And
so
we
will
continue
to
work
on
those
and
evaluate
them
on
a
block
by
block
basis,
to
include
more
parking
again
just
with
the
acknowledgement
that
there's
there's
more
there's
more
ability
to
accommodate
more
parking
in
one
option
than
the
other.
G
And
I
would
maybe
just
add
in
terms
of
process
so
of
those
3
000
comments.
Some
of
them
are
very
specific
to
say,
you
know
I'm
on
this
block
and
we
need
spaces
for
uber
and
lyft
or
pick
up
or
what
pick
up
and
drop
off
or
whatever,
and
then
some
comments
just
say.
You
know
there
isn't
enough
parking.
So
now
now
is
the
time
in
the
process
where.
A
I
G
Really,
looking
for
you
know
if
there
are
specific
needs
that
haven't
been
communicated
now
is
the
time
to
to
understand
what
those
needs
are,
so
that
as
we're
both
identifying
a
preferred
option
and
refining
that
option
at
the
same
time
that
we
can
get
somewhere.
That
is,
balancing
those
sometimes
divergent
opinions
that
we're
hearing.
Okay.
J
But
there
was
nothing
that
was
put
into
the
the
lake
to
31st
plan
and,
and
so
now
it's
something
that
that
is
there's
going
to
be
a
really
difficult
time
rectifying.
So
I
guess
my
my
question
is:
what
type
of
plans
do
you
have
flexibility
do
you
have
that's
put
in
here
in
the
event
that
the
same
thing
happens
and
that
you've
made
a
mistake
and
you
need
to
change
things.
F
Well,
maybe
I'll
just
start
and
say
I
think
it's
honestly
too
early,
it's
too
early
to
say
you
know
we.
We
don't
know
what
option
we're
proceeding
with
at
this
point
in
time,
and
we
need
to
understand
that
to
understand
where
there's
flexibility
in
the
layout
to
make
future
adjustments-
and
we
we
just
don't
know
that
yet
you
know
and-
and
we
won't
know
that
for
for
a
bit
until
at
least
we
have
some
sort
of
preferred
alternative
that
we're
moving
forward
with,
so
that
that's
how
I
started
it
this.
J
And
the
problem
that
happened
last
time
is
that
you
then
came
to
us,
and
this
was
the
ussd
and
it
was
the
business
community,
and
you
said
here
it
is.
This
is
what
we're
doing
and
there
wasn't
any
more
conversation.
You
heard
our
concerns,
you
showed
us
some
options
and
then
you
just
came
back,
and
you
said
here
and
and
by
that
point
it
was
too
late
and
there's
nothing.
We
could
do
and
we
tried.
But
but
again,
that's
my
concern.
J
F
Well,
I
would
just
say
that
there's
a
different
project
team-
I
mean
none
of
us
were
involved
in
the
design
of
that.
First
of
all,
it
wasn't
us
that
that
did
that.
Yes,
us
as
the
city
and
I
didn't
track
that
close
enough-
I
wasn't
involved
in
that
project
whatsoever.
I
mean
in
terms
of
how
we
move
forward
again.
We
need
to
be
able
to
evaluate
thousands
of
comments
and
so
much
feedback,
diverse
stakeholder
feedback,
and
we
will
be
back
to
communicate.
F
You
know
through
the
various
channels,
whether
it's
through
the
special
service
district,
michael,
I
don't
know
if
you're
planning
on
having
another
meeting
in
june
or
july,
similar
to
lowry
hill,
but
we'd
love
to
be
a
part
of
both
of
those
meetings
to
give
you
a
status
update
as
to
where
we're
at,
but
right
now
it's
it's.
We
we
have
too
much
work
in
front
of
us
right
now
to
certainly
out
the
process.
Jeff
I've
heard
your
concerns.
J
C
F
I
mean,
I
think
the
department's
position
is
what
I
would
rely
on
right
now
in
the
department's
position.
Is
that
it's
not
operating
well
and
that
there's
there's
because
of
the
operational
challenges?
It's
not
working
well
for
any
of
the
users
right,
so
you've
got
really
lot
really
wide
sidewalks.
You
have
bicycles
that
are
in
shared
spaces,
there's
no
parking
or
curbside
loading
spaces
that
are
available,
and
you
have
very
narrow,
narrow
travel
lanes.
So
really
the
ability
to
make
adjustments
at
this
point
is
challenging
alan.
F
I
don't
know
if
you
would
want
to
chime
in
a
bit
on
some
of
the
other
concerns
that
have
come
up
as
it
relates
the
activity
block.
But
you
know:
we've
we've
publicly
acknowledged
again,
not
necessarily
my
words
that
were
quoted
to
me
in
the
in
the
strip,
but
we
publicly
acknowledged
from
a
department
perspective
that
we
don't
want
to
replicate
the
same
mistake
moving
forward
and
that
that
is
why
we're
putting
in
so
much
effort
into
having
the
conversations.
F
But
we
also
want
to
to
acknowledge
that
the
street
isn't
going
to
be
the
same
as
it
is
today
and
there
are
going
to
be
reduced
areas
and
in
for
parking
and
loading
throughout
the
corridor,
and
that
is
why
we're
taking
a
targeted
approach
to
it
in
the
best
way
that
we
can
possible.
And
so
that's
been
our
strategy.
I
mean
we
hear
you.
I
Ready,
hey
I'll,
join
in
and
again,
let
me
reintroduce
myself,
I'm
alan
klugman,
I'm
with
the
traffic
and
parking
services
division
of
minneapolis
public
works.
I've
worked
with
a
few
of
you,
but
many
have
not
met.
So
I'm
pleased
to
meet
you
and
chat
a
bit
about
this
job.
Just
add
a
little
bit
to
what
becca
said
about
what
we
call
the
activity
block
from
like
to
31st.
I
I
think
becca
said
it
very
well
that
it's
not
working
very
well
for
all
the
modes,
but
I
think
nicholas
the
one
thing
I
would
add
to
that
comment
and
maybe
in
terms
of
lessons
learned
and
how
we're
moving
forward
with
those
lessons
is-
and
this
might
sound
really
basic,
but
I'm
going
to
say,
is
to
really
think
about
the
entire
life
cycle
of
a
project
and
I'm
not
going
to
do
the
whole
speech
here.
But
you
know
our
projects
start
with
city
policies
and
what
we're
trying
to
reach
what
we're
trying
to
meet.
I
We
move
that
into
a
design
framework.
We
then
build
it,
but
then
I
think
the
key
we're
seeing
with
that
activity
block
is
the
ongoing
operations
of
that,
and
I
think,
if
we've
learned
one
key
message
from
that
project
that
we're
truly
bringing
forward
to
this
one
is
how
to
combine
the
operational
aspect
of
a
project,
the
long-term
viability
of
the
project,
with
how
we
meet
our
design
policies
right.
So
that's
the
thing
we're
trying
to
sort
of
hit
that
sweet
spot
with
the
rest
of
the
corridor.
I
So
I
think
nicholas
you,
you
kind
of
asked
about
our
professional
opinion,
we're
being
very
honest
and
saying
that
black's
not
working
well,
but
I
think
we're
being
very
sincere
and
saying:
we've
learned
from
it
and
we're
really
focusing
on
how
do
we
not
just
build
this,
but
then
how
do
we
operate
it
for
the
next
50
years?
So
that's
kind
of
the
thing
I'd
say
we're
focusing
on
in
terms
of
a
lesson
learned
from
that
experience
and
again
I'll.
Just
maybe
add
to
that
and
that's
why
we're
having
so
much
engagement.
C
I
guess
the
reason
why
I
bring
it
up
is,
you
know,
part
of
our
responsibilities
of
running
this
district
is
making
sure
that
uptown
continues
to
be
a
destination,
a
vibrant
location,
places
where
people
want
to
come
to.
Okay,
we
have
a
lot
of
natural
beauty.
A
lot
of
amazing
businesses
have
done
very
well
over
the
years
now
you
look
out
there
today
and
things
are
very
different
and
obviously
we
cannot
control
the
pandemic
and
the
different
things
that
we're
going
through
as
a
country.
C
But
you
know
this
could
affect
the
corridor
dramatically
when
it
comes
to
business
owners
and
access
and
the
ability
for
people
to
come
here
as
a
destination.
So
we
have
to
be
very,
very
careful
with
the
way
things
are
going
right
now
with
the
economy
and
everything
that's
happening.
Uptown
and
you
know
boarding
up
and
vacancies
and
that's
that's
vacancy
is
a
commercial.
That's
faking
keys
residential.
That's
across
the
board.
You
know
we
have
to
be
very,
very
careful.
C
The
decisions
that
we
make
that
could
affect
the
really
long-term
growth,
especially
after
we
packed
in
so
much
density
in
this
area
and
then
all
sudden
now
we're
in
this
situation
we're
going
to
affect
the
businesses
that
brought
the
people
here
in
the
first
place.
That's
my
only
comment.
Thank
you.
A
E
If
we
lose
on
the
ability
to
have
some
parking
and
and
where
people
can
do
drop
off
and
pick
up
and
situations
like
that,
it
will
destroy
all
the
businesses
in
many
of
the
corridors.
I
know
our
block
specifically
it'll
just
become
a
ghost
town,
but
you
know
we
can't
my
myself
and
my
tenants
cannot
survive
without
parking
as
well.
As
you
know,
we're
a
mail
order.
Business
too.
We
need
to
be
able
to
have
x
ups
and
everybody
has
to
have
access
for
dropping
off
and
picking
up.
B
Thanks
everybody
for
being
here
today,
we
appreciate
your
time.
You
probably
get
a
little
bit
of
our
frustration.
We
we
feel
like
we
went
through
these
exact
same
conversations
on
the
the
hennepin
block.
We
gave
a
lot
of
feedback
at
the
time
my
company
owned
the
project
formerly
known
as
calhoun
square,
and
we
were
adamantly
opposed
to
everything
that
was
being
done.
B
We
are
all,
I
think,
very
concerned
that
the
exact
same
thing
is
going
to
happen.
Now
we
appreciate
your
time.
We
appreciate
you,
you
engaging
with
us
my
ask
to
alan,
and
everybody
else
is,
as
you
learn
from
the
process,
maybe
also
take
away
that
some
of
the
business
owners
and
property
owners
know
what
they're
talking
about
in
a
different
way.
That
then
maybe
somebody
that
lives
in
the
neighborhood
and
visits
the
corridor
once
a
month.
B
So
we
want
you
to
be
very
cognizant
that
you
could
actually
be
driving
businesses
away
from
the
community,
which
means
jobs
in
a
tax
base,
so
those
decisions
aren't
actually
going
to
help
any
of
us
on
this
call,
whether
it
be
city,
workers
or
property
owners
in
the
area,
you're
negatively,
impacting
the
livelihood
of
that
in
the
energy
of
that
entire
community
specific
to
the
plans
that
it
looks
like
we
are
stuck
with.
I
would
advocate
for
option
two.
B
I
think
what
we
have
specifically
learned
over
the
last
year
is
the
businesses
that
were
able
to
survive.
The
pandemic
required
easy
access
from
the
customers,
so
that
wasn't
a
parking
ramp,
a
block
away.
It
was
immediate
pickup.
So
a
lot
of
retailers
and
restaurants.
Both
did
curbside
pickup,
where
you
needed
to
be
within
three
or
four
parking
spaces
of
that
location.
B
To
have
that
employee
run
out,
drop
something
off
in
your
car,
so
you
couldn't
park
in
the
calhoun
square
parking
ramp
and
have
a
restaurant
do
curbside
pickup
for
you,
you
had
to
physically
be
at
that
location.
The
same
is
also
true
of
many
pickups
bite
squads,
those
kind
of
delivery
services.
They
will
charge
a
higher
fee,
the
harder
it
is
to
pick
up
from
that
location.
B
So
anybody
that
cannot
easily
pull
up
to
the
curb
get
what
they
need
and
go
that
becomes
more
of
a
desert
from
groups
that
want
to
service
that
and
it
just
becomes
harder
for
anybody
else
to
support.
So
the
more
immediate
access
you
take
away,
the
harder
it
is
going
to
be
for
those
businesses
to
survive,
especially
in
the
I
mean.
None
of
us
know
what
happens
post
covid,
but
a
lot
of
habits
were
developed
over
the
last
year
that
probably
aren't
going
to
go
away.
B
So
if
you
choose
to
eliminate
access
to
businesses,
you
are
in
essence,
choosing
to
close
those
businesses.
Now,
maybe
15
years
from
now,
somebody
new
will
come
in
and
open,
I'm
not
denying
that
from
a
life
cycle
standpoint,
but
I
think
you're
talking
to
a
group
of
property
owners
and
business
owners
that
care
about
what
happens
over
the
next
few
years
and
care
about
the
businesses
that
go
out
of
business
over
the
next
few
years.
Because
of
these
decisions.
A
D
I
think
all
these
property
owners
that
are
on
this
committee
are
all
protesting,
their
property
taxes
and
they're
all
going
to
get
their
property
taxes
probably
reduced,
and
why
are
they
doing
that?
Because
they've
either
lost
their
tenants
or
they've
had
to
lose
or
they've
had
to
reduce
rents
or
they've
had
to
give
free
rents
or
or
whatever.
D
D
My
proposal
would
be
just
to
delay
delay
the
project
until
the
area
gets
back
on
its
feet.
You
don't
see
four
lease
signs.
The
buildings
are
full.
The
restaurants
come
back,
there's
more
retailers
involved
in
the
area,
and
that
would
be
my
recommendation
that
we
you
just
put
a
hold
on
the
entire
project.
I
mean
it
would
be
like
you
know
another.
Let's
say
a
company
is
wanting
to
expand
and
the
areas
all
of
a
sudden
has
gone
downhill.
D
F
F
You
know
there's
a
need
to
to
reconstruct
the
utilities
under
the
street,
there's
a
need
for
the
street
to
be
reconstructed
and
we're
doing
the
best
that
we
can
to
find
as
much
give
as
we
can
in
the
schedule,
while
still
allowing
that
federal
funding
to
contribute
to
the
cost
of
the
project,
and
we
we
totally
understand
how
sensitive
this
is
and
and
we're
working
as
hard
as
we
can
to
make
adjustments,
but
yet
not
lose
that
money.
But
your
point
is
is
taken.
The
timing
on
this
is
not
good.
J
J
Can
you
identify
for
us
where
you
now
see
customers
parking
in
the
area,
because
I'm
assuming
now
that
they're
going
to
go
into
the
neighboring
adjacent
streets
and
the
same
with
employee
parking
where
that's
going
to
go
and
part
of
the
concern?
Here
too,
is
that
if
you
look
at
uptown,
there's
now
parking
restrictions
and
requirements
on
adjacent
streets
that
that
now
prohibit
customers
or
employees
parking
in
those
areas,
and
I
could
see
that
that
very
well
happening
in
the
neighborhoods
adjacent
to
hennepin
avenue,
certainly
when
you
guys
implement
what
you're
going
to
do.
G
I
can
maybe
start
so
a
couple
things
one
would
be
as
we
are
looking
at
overall
parking.
I
know
there
were
some
references
to
the
proximity
of
parking
and
just
want
to
acknowledge.
There
are
something
like
2000
surface
parking
spaces
along
the
corridor,
and
so
some
businesses
clearly
have
already
a
surface
parking
lot
with
obviously
dedicated
parking
for
their
business,
and
so
in
terms
of
trying
to
prioritize
space
in
the
right
of
way.
G
As
we
looked
at
the
corridor
based
on
where
there
was
space
and
some
the
the
parking
study
that
was
done
in
2018,
we
had
some
idea
of
where
the
parking
is
most
utilized.
So
some
spaces
in
the
corridor
are
very
lightly
used
and
some
are
very
heavily
used,
and
so
every
parking
space
isn't
isn't
the
same.
I
Jeff,
maybe
I
can
jump
in
here
too.
You
asked
a
very
specific
question
that
I'm
going
to
say:
I
don't
believe
we
have
an
answer
to
for
you
now.
You
asked
about
customer
and
employee
parking.
We
have
very,
very,
very
good
statistics,
as
jeanette
said
about
the
amount
of
parking
supply
in
the
corridor
both
off
street
on
street.
We
have
very
good
statistics
about.
You
know
how
the
parking
is
used.
We
did
several
measurements
at
different
times
of
day
different
days
of
the
week
up
and
down
the
corridor,
even
on
the
side
streets.
I
You
know
east
and
west
of
hennepin.
So
I
just
want
to
be
honest
with
you.
We,
I
think
we
have
very
good
aggregate
data
on
the
amount
of
parking
that's
occurring.
We
may
not
have
the
fine
detail
that
you're
speaking
to
in
terms
of
where
customer
parks,
where
employee
parks,
but
I
kind
of
want
to
build
off
that
point,
and
I
mean
one
of
the
things
we're
making
today
and
I
look
at
we've
been
really
honest
with
you
is
hennepin's
going
to
change.
I
The
future
is
going
to
be
different
than
today,
and
I
kind
of
talked
about
life
cycle
and
operations
and
how
all
this
fits
together.
You
know,
I
think
one
thing
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
work
with.
Folks
like
you
on
is
you
know
what
are
some
of
those
changes
and
how
do
we
all
work
together
to
make
this
successful?
I
C
C
In
my
opinion,
at
all
and
I've
been
a
30-year
resident
property
owner
business
owner
for
this
area
and
and
now
is
probably
the
most
concerning
time
that
I've
ever
had
of
being
a
property
owner.
I've
never
doubted
my
investment
in
uptown
ever
okay,
but
from
things
that
are
happening
and
a
massive
project
like
this
can
affect
everything
coming
from
a
downtown
which
is
basically
vacant.
You
know
the
ghost
town
we
can't
elect
that
affect
us
here
in
in
uptown,
and
I
guess
that's.
The
biggest
concern
we
have
is.
C
I
think
we
need
some
more
feedback.
We
need
some
more
research
to
make
sure
we're
making
the
right
decision,
because
spending
for
20
to
30
percent
of
federal
money
now
we'll
probably
spend
a
health
twice
as
much
down
the
road.
If
we
make
the
mistake
here
and
that's
the
biggest
concern
that
I
have
thank
you.
J
I
just
what
I
want
to
know,
alan
and
and
from
the
city's
team
also
is:
can
you
show
us
a
precedent
or
an
area,
that's
being
that
you're
modeling
this?
After
so
many
times,
we've
heard
portland
or
seattle
or
san
francisco
and
when
they
were
designing-
and
I
just
keep
pointing
to
this-
and
it's
not
to
to
be
you
know
it
just-
is
what
it
is.
J
J
I
Yeah
yeah,
no
good
question.
Let
me
start
with
some
general
comments
and
we'll
try
to
get
more
specific.
I
kind
of
like
how
you
phrase
it.
Are
we
trying
to
be
pioneering?
You
know
not
really.
You
know
we
are
in
contact
with
other
cities.
We
have
a
pretty
good
peer
network
nationwide
that
we
frankly
were
in
a
lot
of
communication
with
in
terms
of
projects
like
this
that
are
similar
in
terms
of
how
a
corridor
has
kind
of
been
transformed.
I
Let's
be
honest,
we've
been
working
on
that
for
several
years
and
we
have
council
endorsement
of
what
those
policies
are
and
so
we're
trying
to
kind
of
hit
the
sweet
spot
where
you
know
we're
absolutely
listening
to
folks
like
you,
we
want
to
respond
to
what
you're
saying,
but
we're
also
designing
to
very
important
policies
that
are
guiding
our
city
not
just
for
today,
but
for
the
next
you
know
decades
and
informing
those
policies
are
the
questions
you're
asking
in
terms
of
what
have
other
cities
done?
What
do
other
quarters
look
like?
I
So
you
know
I
think,
we're
looking
to
to
change.
Hennepin
we've
said
that
several
times
today
and
in
the
past,
it's
not
going
to
look
like
when
it's
looked
in
the
past,
but
we're
not
looking
to
do
something
pioneering
in
the
sense
that
you
know
it
would
change
the
road
from
being
viable
to
not
being
viable.
So
you
know
we
do
have
precedence
from
other
cities.
We
can
look
back
at
some
of
that
research
and
share
with
you,
but
you
know
we
don't
want
to
give
a
message
here
that
we
think
we're
doing
something.
I
E
Bob
johnson
here
yeah
bob
go
ahead:
I've
been
a
I've,
been
a
tenant
and
a
property
owner
in
uptown
for
30
years,
and
I've
seen
the
changes
in
parking
when
you're
talking
about
2018
traffic
and
parking
studies.
Those
are
kind
of
obsolete.
Now,
there's
been
thousands
of
new
apartments
built
and
there
is
not
the
parking
off
street
even
that
there
was
two
and
three
years
ago.
E
Those
spaces
are
always
full
all
the
time
and
on
our
block
and
behind
me,
there's
approximately
250
new
units
going
in,
but
they're
not
going
to
be
providing
any
parking
for
any
of
the
visitors
to
these
tents.
In
fact,
these
units
don't
have
adequate
parking
for
all
their
tenants,
so
their
needs
again.
E
There
needs
to
be
places
for
the
the
businesses
that
will
be
in
the
area
for
a
long
time,
if
possible,
for
drop
off
and
pick
up
in
the
limited
parking
for
those
businesses
they're
only
building
these
apartments,
because
this
is
considered
a
popular
area
for
entertainment
and
and
shopping.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
B
Long
that
might
last
for
and
what
that
sort
of
work
from
home
policy
might
be
in
the
future.
So
to
bob's
point
about
that
data
being
outdated,
I
don't
know
that
it
also
takes
into
account
the
new
way
the
world
is
living
right
now
as
well,
and
I
I
would
say
I
jeff
brought
it
up
earlier.
We
have
seen
in
many
cases
as
neighborhoods
develop
and
you
need
or
you're
pushing
the
employees
and
the
customers
into
the
neighborhoods.
A
H
H
G
F
F
You
know
some
of
it
is
more
detailed
than
others
and
we
really
just
need
to
kind
of
sift
and
smart
through
that.
You
know
and
at
the
same
time
we're
having
conversations
about
what
sort
of
adjustments
we
can
make
to
the
timeline
as
it
relates
to
layout
approval
again.
You
know,
we've
heard
this
comment
for
most.
E
A
F
A
Well,
I
will,
I
guess
we
can.
We
can
conclude
here
so
we
are
june,
so
we
will
have
a
meeting
in
june.
That
will
be
in
addition
to
the
a
project
update
from
the
project
team.
That
will
be
a
longer
meeting
because
we'll
do
sort
of
our
normal
course
of
activities
reviewing
last
year's
current
year
budget,
as
well
as
adopting
a
budget
recommendation
for
2022.
So
that
will
all
happen
at
at
our
next
meeting.
A
Right
now,
we're
envisioning
that's
going
to
be
sometime
in
june,
though
we
haven't
confirmed
a
date
when
we
have
a
date
that
we're
targeting
we
will,
as
we
have
done.
Historically,
we
will
canvas
the
board
for
availability
and
hopefully
presuming
it
works
for
a
majority
of
the
board
members.
That's
the
date.
We
would
go
with
so
again,
as
we
get
a
little
closer
to
to
june,
we'll
be
reaching
back
out
to
folks
and
confirm
that
date
with
that.