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A
Regular
meeting
of
the
advisory
committee
on
housing
is
a
beginning,
I'll
turn
it
over
to
joey
and
colleen.
B
Great
well
thanks
everyone.
Yes,
so
today
is
thursday
august
12th,
and
we
will
call
this
meeting
to
order
katie.
Would
you
mind
taking
the
role
please.
C
D
F
G
E
B
So
our
next
item
is
to
adopt
the
agenda.
We
do
have
to
make
a
slight
amendment
to
the
agenda
because
we
will
not
have
the.
We
won't
have
the
update
of
the
fair
housing
overview
from
the
civil
rights
department.
We
had
some
scheduling,
confusion
or
snafu's,
and
so
they're
not
able
to
make
it
today.
So
we'll
need
to
eliminate
that
from
the
agenda
for
today
and
then
I
just
have
to
apologize
in
advance.
B
B
C
I'll
move
to
adopt
the
agenda
with
that
deletion.
F
H
A
Joey
dobson
I
colleen
ebbinger
aye
stalinski
jaycox
aye,
charlotte
kinsley,
hi,
liliana,
latron,
garcia,.
F
F
G
A
B
A
All
right,
I
will
take
the
roll
karina
bowler.
H
F
E
G
G
E
B
Thanks
everyone
that
was
a
fast
order
of
business
for
a
zoom
call
or
microsoft
teams
call
might.
C
Be
our
record
yeah
all
right
so
moving
right
along
next
on
our
agenda
is
our
committee's
public
comment
period.
So,
as
you
know,
we
set
aside
about
10
minutes
for
meeting
to
hear
any
public
comments
from
non-committee
members,
so
we'd
ask
that
anyone
who's
here
to
make
a
comment.
Keep
your
remarks
to
about
one
minute
and
we
ask
that
your
comments
be
related
to
housing
issues
in
the
city
of
minneapolis
and,
if
possible,
related
to
our
agenda
for
the
day.
C
We
take
notes
on
all
public
comments
and
follow
up
as
necessary
and
discuss
them
as
they
relate
to
our
other
agenda
items.
So
if
anyone
is
here
has
called
into
the
meeting
today
to
make
a
public
comment
now
at
this
time,
could
you
please
unmute
yourself
by
pressing
star
six
on
your
phone
and
state
your
name?
We
will
then
call
on
individuals
to
make
your
comment.
So
is
anyone
here
to
make
a
public
comment
against
star
six
to
unmute.
C
C
C
B
I
mean,
I
think
it's
really
updated
to
talk
about
potentially
returning
in
person
and
then
the
plans
for
that.
So
yeah
katie
go
ahead
and
you
can
give
us
our
update.
A
Yes,
so
earlier
this
summer,
the
city
council,
after
the
governor's
emergency
powers,
expired,
the
city
did
maintain
some
limited
emergency
authorization
for
the
pandemic,
which
is
why
we
are
still
meeting
remotely
right
now.
There
was
a
resolution
adopted
july
1st
that
allowed
boards
and
commissions
to
continue
to
meet
remotely
pending
a
transition
plan,
and
at
that
time
the
resumption
of
in-persons
meetings
was
supposed
to
happen
no
later
than
september
30th.
So
that
means
our
august
meeting
is
remote.
A
Our
september
meeting
can
still
be
remote,
but
as
of
now,
the
plan
was
to
move
it
to
in-person
meetings
in
october.
That's
also
when
city
council
committee
meetings
will
begin
meeting
in
person
one
moment
here.
I
have
a
honey.
A
Sorry
about
that,
so
that's
a
good
segue
into
my
next
comment
because
I
have
a
child
home
from
daycare
because
of
a
positive
cola
case
at
daycare.
As
we
know,
things
are
changing
rapidly
as
we
speak,
so
it
is
possible.
A
The
mayor
and
council
will
make
modifications
to
that
resolution,
but
as
of
now,
we
will
still
meet
remotely
in
september
and
if
that
resolution
does
not
change,
we
would
return
to
an
in-person
meeting
in
october,
but
every
you
know,
as
we
all
know
right
now,
everything
is
fairly
in
flux,
so
we
will
keep
you
posted,
but
you
can
plan
for
september
that
we
will
continue
meeting
remotely
and
we'll
share
another
update
at
that
time.
C
I
think
you
scripted
that
that
was
a
little
timed
and
you
should
let
your
kid
know
that
I
think
we
have
vacancies
on
our
committee
perspective.
B
C
Does
anyone
before
we
move
on?
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
about
that
about
like
where
the
city
is
at
with
emergency
powers
or
for
our
committee's
sake?
I
think
we're
all
used
to
kind
of
being
flexible
and
taking
things
day
by
day,
but
it's
it's
good
to
have
that
certainty.
That
at
least
will
be
probably
remote.
We
will
be
remote
through
september,
but
if
anyone
has
any
questions
about
that
now
before
we
move
on.
I
C
Right
great,
so
the
next
part
of
our
agendas
there's
a
lot
there's
quite
a
bit
moving
or
has
been
moving
with
regard
to
housing
policy
and
things
business
that
the
city
council
has
taken
up
related
to
covet
funding.
So
we're
just
gonna
go
through
some
updates
on
some
of
the
housing-related
topics.
We've
discussed
here
as
a
committee
in
the
recent
months.
Katie.
Are
you
going
to
kick
this
off?
C
A
I
will
start
with
the
first
two
items
on
the
list
and
then
robin
garwood
who
has
joined
us
is
going
to
talk
about
the
last
two,
so
one,
the
first
one
is
the
american
rescue
plan.
At
our
last
meeting
we
had
overview.
I
think
it
was
our
la
arjun
meeting,
an
overview
of
all
the
housing
and
homelessness
proposals.
A
Those
were
adopted
by
the
city,
council
and
so
city
staff
are
now
working
on
the
implementation
of
those
pieces,
but
that
was
just
sort
of
the
first
tranche
of
the
funding
that
the
city
had
decided.
What
would
be
happening
with
there's
going
to
be
a
community
engagement
process
for
the
other
other
funds,
the
other
american
rescue
plan
funds
over
the
next
several
months.
A
So
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
details
to
share
on
what
that
process
is
going
to
look
like
at
this
point,
but
there
will
be
more
to
come
and
we'll
certainly
keep
the
committee
informed
about
what
that
will
look
like
actually
rob-
and
I
may
put
you
on
the
spot
on
that
one.
Do
you
have
anything
to
add
in
terms
of
the
process
for
the
the
rest
of
the
american
rescue
plan
funds
from
the
council
perspective.
J
No,
not
really
I
mean
it's
it.
My
understanding
is
that
it's
basically
going
to
be
rolled
into
the
budget
process
for
next
year,
so
it'll
people
will
be
able
to
give
your
opinions
about
how
we
should
spend
those
dollars
as
part
of
the
overall
2022
budget.
A
And
on
that
note,
the
mayor's
2022
budget
address
is
tomorrow
afternoon
at
one
o'clock
that
is
going
to
be
streamed
on
the
city's
youtube
channel.
So
if
you
want
to
watch
it,
you
can
and
then
the
the
documents
will
come
out
shortly
after
that.
So
I
know
later
in
the
agenda
we're
going
to
talk
about
future
meeting
topics,
so
we
can,
I
think,
we'll
talk
about
how
this
committee
wants
to
respond
to
the
budget.
But
if
you
are
interested
you
can
watch
the
budget
address
tomorrow
afternoon.
A
Okay,
so
the
next
item
was
the
opportunity
to
purchase
policy.
I
believe
I
shared
at
our
last
meeting
that
we
are.
The
city
has
hired
a
consultant
who
is
assisting
with
drafting
ordinance
language
right
now,
I'm
working
with
a
city
staff
team
to
do
that,
so
that
is
happening.
That's
an
ongoing
process.
A
The
language
is
based
off
of
a
staff
direction
that
the
council
adopted
earlier
this
year,
which
we've
shared
with
this
committee,
which
was
based
on
the
the
study
that
consultant
the
consultant
group
did
last
year,
so
we're
kind
of
building
off
of
that
last
year's
study
and
then
the
staff
direction
that
the
council
adopted
in
the
spring
for
the
framework
for
the
policy,
so
the
ordinance
is
being
drafted.
Currently
we
anticipate
having
a
draft
for
consideration.
A
You
know
obviously
always
subject
to
change
based
on
how
long
things
take
and
all
sorts
of
things,
but
by
the
end
of
the
year,
is
the
as
the
anticipated
timeline
right
now
we
will.
The
consultant,
along
with
city
staff,
will
be
doing
stakeholder
engagement
with
that
draft
once
there's
a
draft
ready
to
share
and
certainly
intend
to
bring
that
forward
to
this
committee,
so
that
would
likely
happen.
A
B
And
katie:
do
you
have
any
give
any
knowledge
of
any
of
the
specific
plans
as
it's
being
drafted
in
any
specific
terms,.
A
In
terms
of
like
the
details
of
the
ordinance
yeah,
no
yeah
at
this
point,
I
don't
have
anything
beyond
like
that.
It's
based
off
the
the
staff
connection
that
the
county
adopted.
C
But
maybe
robin
you
can
speak
to
this
a
little
bit.
I
mean
the
staff
direction
did
spell
out
some
of
the
specific
terms
like
it
wasn't
just
graph
one
that
comports
with
the
study
from
last
year,
like
it
has
some
specific
elements.
I
don't
know
robin.
You
want
to
hit
the
high
notes
of
real,
quick
or
someone,
because
there
are
some
like
elements.
I
guess
I
can
pull
it
up.
J
I
was
just
looking
for
the
the
actual
link
to
it,
I'll
I'll,
find
the
link
to
it
and
put
it
in
the
chat.
H
H
A
Yes
and
it's,
I
would
say
it's
most
closely,
based
on
the
option
two
from
that
study,
which
was
giving
the
giving
renters
the
opportunity
to
purchase
but
then
also
having
a
qualified
organization
have
a
right
to
purchase
as
well.
So
it's
not
it's
not
exactly
option
two
from
that
study,
but
that's
what
it
was
closest
to
the
the
council
direction.
A
E
J
J
I
have
just
dropped
the
ordinance
into
chat
the
the
high
level
we
are
really
single
occupancy,
I'm
sorry
single
room
occupancy
and
rooming
houses
in
minneapolis.
They
will
have
to
be
for
now
at
least
a
a
non-profit
or
government
provider.
J
That's
one
of
the
things
that
I
know
there
was
there
was
some
amount
of
pushback
from
various
folks
about,
but
but
the
council
decided
to
to
keep
that
as
one
of
the
limitations
again,
I
I
have
been
viewing
this
and
I
think
cam
has
as
well
as
being
similar
to
the
way
that
we
got
into
accessory
dwelling
units
where
we
kind
of
move
in
a
little
bit
gradually
and
cautiously
just
to
make
sure
that
it
that
it
goes
okay
and
then
open
it
up
more
over
time.
A
I
might
just
add
that
one
of
the
just
a
reminder
that
one
of
the
american
rescue
plan
funding
items
that
was
already
adopted
was
5
million
dollars
for
sro
development
acquisition
and
and
rehab
to
create
sros.
So
that
is
one
of
the
things
when
I
mentioned
that
staff
are
working
on
figuring
out
how
to
implement.
That
is
one
of
the
pieces.
A
We're
going
to
be
working
pretty
closely
with
hennepin
county
they've,
already
acquired
a
couple
of
hotels
that
they
intend
to
convert
to
sros
and
and
they're,
considering
some
additional
funding
as
well.
So
so
we're
excited
that
you
know
the
policy
adopted
and
we
also
have
funding
available
to
make
this
happen
relatively
quickly
in
our
community.
H
J
A
J
Yeah
brenda's
friend
is
no
longer
here
just
for
taking
the
time
to
be
part
of
the
the
conversation
about
that.
I
I
recognize
that
you
might
not
have
gotten
everything
you
wanted
out
of
it,
but
I
think
it
definitely
made
the
policy
stronger
to
have
you
involved.
So
I
really
appreciate
it.
H
I
just
have
one
question
or
comment,
and
that
is,
I
know,
there's
some
money
available,
but
typically
non-profits.
If
they're
going
to
be
doing
the
development
take
about
twice
as
long
as
a
market
rate
developer
or
builder
to
put
a
deal
together
because
of
the
amount
of
time
it
takes
to
get
financing.
H
So
you
know
my
only
concern
is
non-profits
and
government
agencies
only
represent
one
percent
of
the
rental
property
or
the
the
the
units
that
are
available
for
rent,
and
by
limited
to
that,
we
we're
going
to
have
a
very,
very
small
subset
of
of
information
to
draw
from,
and
I
I
the
direction
the
thought
process
that
it's
mainly
gonna
be
geared
toward
homeless
relief
or
some
of
these
other
things.
H
I
think
we're
limiting
our
thinking,
because
I
think
you're
gonna
start
to
see
quite
a
bit
more
workforce
type,
which
is
much
more
market
rate
type
of
things
available
that
people
are
interested
in,
and
so
I
think,
there's
going
to
be
this
this
propensity
to
to
for
for
non-government
or
non-non-profits
to
be
interested
in
engaging
in
this
process.
So
I
think
it's
gonna
it'll
be
small.
H
To
begin
with,
as
you
mentioned,
but
that's
why
we
have
regulatory,
so
I'm
just
going
to
encourage
that
we
we
look
at
it
in
a
way
that
it,
the
scope,
might
be
much
bigger
than
you
think,
and
you
know,
there's
a
couple
srl
sros
that
are
out
there
in
minneapolis
and
st
paul
that
are
doing
a
very
good
job
and
they're
run
by
nonprofits.
H
But
what
they're
with
I
talked
to
one
of
them-
and
they
said
you
know
they're
they're
having
you
know
a
fair
amount
of
as
an
example,
somali
americans
who
live
in
them
because
they're
sending
money
home
and
they're
looking
for
you
know,
they're
they're,
single
men
who
are
you,
know
they're
working
hard,
so
they
can
bring
their
families
and
that's
a
part
that
maybe
the
the
nonprofit
government
piece
isn't
going
to
touch.
H
J
So
much
a
couple
of
things
about
that.
I
I
think
you're
right,
that
we
should
not
just
think
of
this
as
being
a
way
for
folks
to
get
out
of
homelessness
to
becoming
almost
in
the
first
place,
it's
much
bigger
than
that.
I
mean
that's
definitely
one
of
the
motivators
yeah,
but
but
we
should
you're
absolutely
right,
be
thinking
about
this
as
a
way
for
people
who
just
want
to
live
in
that
kind
of
a
place
to
have
access
to
it
and
and
so
I'll.
Just
I
completely
agree
with
that.
J
The
other
piece
I
I
everything
that
I
have
heard
so
far
about
someone
other
than
a
non-profit
or
a
government
entity
opening
up
an
sro
has
been
hypothetical,
so
it
it'll
be
really
interesting
to
see
if
folks
come
forward.
Who
actually
want
to
do
this
as
as
a
sort
of
a
some
someone
from
outside
that
sort
of
walled
garden.
If
you
want
to
think
of
it
that
way,
that
actually
really
helps,
I
think,
clarify
everybody's
thinking
and
make
it
much
more
specific
like
okay.
J
So
then,
what
would
that
work
when
we've
got
a
real
concrete
project?
So
I
hope
that
we
do
have
folks
who
approach
us
with
that
idea,
because
I
think
there
is
the
willingness
to
treat
this
as
just
a
first
step
and
then
you
know
think
about
broadening
it
out
further
yeah
yeah.
G
Yeah
yeah
thanks
robin.
I
was
happy
to
provide
my
thoughts
on
this
and
support
the
support
the
policy
chain.
I
think
it's
great.
I
was
one
of
those
voices
that
you
know
hoping
to
see
it
go
a
little
farther,
but
I
do
remember
yeah.
When
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
ordinance
was
passed
at
first,
it
was,
you
know,
only
for
owner-occupied
homes
and
then
that
was
relaxed,
and
so
I
guess,
if
I
my
only
question
would
be.
G
Is
there
is
there
any
idea
when,
when
we
could
reevaluate
this
and
see
if
we
could
move
it
farther,
because
I
am
thinking
about
you
know
it's
not
just
you
know,
minneapolis
needs
to
open
the
gates.
Like
you
know,
lenders
might
need
to
see
this
concept
prove
proven
in
the
market,
and
you
know
they're
just
there's
just
a
lot
of
steps
and
a
lot
of
need
in
this
in
this
area
and
so
yeah.
I
guess
when
would
you
take
a
look
at
this
and
see?
G
If
you
know
we
can
tweak
it
to
allow
more
sros
into
the
city.
J
J
To
be
honest,
what
it
took
for
adus
it
took
folks
like
bruce
saying
I
would
build
more
adus.
If
you
would.
Let
me
do
that.
Then.
Here's
where
I
want
to
put
them
and
here's
what
they
would
look
like
and
and
they're
a
good
thing
and
and
then
instead
of
it
being,
I
mean,
there's
a
reason
that
they
don't
show
you
the
monster
in
most
monster
movies.
Until
maybe
the
end
of
the
movie.
J
H
J
E
J
So
the
council
voted
last
week
to
put
two
different
questions
forward
for
the
for
the
ballot.
This
fall
to
change
the
charter.
The
first
empowers
the
the
people
of
minneapolis
to
collect
signatures
to
put
forward
a
question
on
rent
stabilization
on
a
future
ballot.
J
The
mayor
has
vetoed
the
first
of
those
pathways
and
the
the
council
will
be
considering
overriding
that
veto
at
its
sort
of
special
meeting
tomorrow,
we'll
see
if
there
are
the
votes
for
that,
it
takes
nine
votes
of
the
council
to
override
a
mayoral
veto.
J
Regardless
of
what
happens
with
that
pathway,
the
other
pathway,
the
one
that
empowers
the
the
council
to
act,
has
been,
has
moved
forward
and
it
will
be
on
the
ballot
this
fall
if
it
is
adopted
and
adoption
takes
51
percent
of
the
of
the
vote.
That
will
then
tee
up
the
possibility
of
the
council
next
year,
taking
up
a
rent,
stabilization
law,
and
there
will
be
a
lot
of
different
questions
about
you
know
the
specifics
of
that
law.
J
There
will
also
be
some
question
as
to
as
the
to
the
right
process,
because
this,
as
I
said,
the
the
charter
amendment
will
allow
the
council
to
adopt
it
just
as
a
law
there
is.
This
is
a
a
state
law
that
we're
trying
to
comply
with
that
no
one
has
ever
actually
like
tested.
J
J
I
do
hope
that
folks
also
had
a
chance
to
see
the
cura
report.
I
think
we've
talked
about
it
in
the
past,
but
okay,
good
and
I'll
I'll
find
the
run
stabilization
charter,
amendment
stuff
and
drop
it
in
the
chat
as
well.
A
Yeah
we
did
have
professor
ed
getz
at
our
one
of
our
meetings
earlier
this
year
to
present
on
that
report,.
C
Yeah
thanks
robin
for
that
update
because
we
didn't
these
votes.
Have
you
know
taken
place
of
course,
since
we
as
a
committee
have
had
a
chance
to
meet
since
we
we
didn't
meet
in
july,
and
then
some
of
these
votes
just
happened
in
the
last
week
or
two.
So
I
guess
I
was
just
gonna.
C
I
think,
because
we
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time,
opened
up
on
our
on
our
agenda
and
because
we
have
sort
of
this
unexpected
timing,
where
there
is
this
vote
tomorrow
on
considering
whether
the
council
members
want
to
override
the
mayor's
veto
of
that
one
path
I
was
thinking.
Maybe
we
could
discuss
just
a
little
bit
as
a
committee
if
there's
interest
in
this
committee
in
in
taking
a
position.
C
So
I
guess
I
mean
not
a
particularly
formal
motion,
but
I
would
just
kind
of
put
a
motion
on
the
table
for
general
discussion,
suggesting
that
our
committee
recommend
to
the
city
council
to
approve
both
versions
or
both
charter
amendments,
both
pathways
and
just
briefly,
I
mean
robin
explained
this,
but
I
think
it's
just
really
important
to
remember
that
these
amendments
are
about
keeping
the
door
open
to
these
different
ways
of
in
the
future,
potentially
adopting
a
rent,
control
or
rent
stabilization
policy.
C
C
It's
it's
a
matter
of
keeping
the
doors
open,
so
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
the
city,
especially
because
it
is
the
first
time
we're
really
digging
into
this,
to
kind
of
keep
these
doors
open
as
long
as
possible
and
explore
what
what
is
the
right
way
to
do
this?
If
we
are
going
to
do
it
at
all
and
a
couple
of
just
other
things,
I
would
just
point
out.
C
You
know
we
have
seen
a
commitment
to
to
renters
rights
and
I
think
that's
just
more
more
crucial
now
than
ever
as
we're
seeing
with
the
eviction
moratorium
off-ramp,
which
we'll
discuss
a
little
bit
more
later
in
this
meeting,
people
we're
seeing
so
clearly
right
now
the
ways
that
people
are
are
pinched
financially
and
I
think
the
timing
with
some
of
the
protections
of
the
off-ramp
will
be
ending
by
next
summer
that
getting
this
rolling
in
whatever
way
makes
sense
for
our
city
is
just
really
crucial
and
the
thing
that
I
remember
standing
out
to
me
just
so
starkly
when
we
got
that
presentation
on
the
cura
report
was
just
such
the
different
experience
that
white
renters
in
our
in
our
city
are
having
than
by
poc
renters
and
because
you
saw
you
know,
rents
were
staying
relatively
stable
for
white
renters,
but
it's
specifically
people
with
low
incomes
and
people
of
color
who
have
traditionally
experienced
these
more
exorbitant
hikes
on
an
annual
or
even
more
frequent
basis.
C
So
again,
it's
not
about
the
policy
and
why
the
policy
matters
for
this
vote
tomorrow.
It's
about.
Procedurally,
you
know
keeping
these
options
open,
so
those
are
just
some
of
the
reasons
why
I
would
suggests
that
as
a
committee,
we
take
a
position
encouraging
the
council
tomorrow
to
essentially
override
the
mayor's
veto
of
the
citizen
initiative
version
of
the
citizen
initiative
amendment
and
urge
them
to
support
it.
So
I
think
open
for
discussion.
I
think
we
have
some
time,
but
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out.
There.
H
J
Yeah,
so
I
am
not
aware
of
of
specific
language
that
that
is
like
a
consensus
among
all
of
the
groups
who
might
work
to
pass
something.
No,
I
do
think
that
there
is.
You
know
some
general
consensus
on
some
things
like
you
know
not
having
the
control
that
vacancy
and
various
details
like
that,
but
the
really
I
I
think,
joey
put
it
well,
it's
not
so
much
right
now
about
the
policy
specifics,
it's
about
having
different
pathways
and
I'll
just
say
like
we
saw
this
with
the
minimum
wage.
J
Had
we
had
the
capacity
for
the
people
to
directly
bring
something
forward
without
it
having
to
pass
the
council,
the
policy
might
have
looked
different,
it
might
have
been
stronger
and-
and
so
I
think
it
is
a
thing
that
gives
folks
some
some
leverage
it
also,
you
know
if
we
ended
up
with
a
council
that
they
just
didn't,
want
to
do
rent
stabilization.
J
It
would
give
people
the
capacity
to
sort
of
get
around
a
a
more
recalcitrant
council.
I
think
this
council
would
absolutely
act
on
it,
but
you
know
we
have
this
election
coming
up
in
the
fall.
Nobody
knows
exactly.
What's
going
to
happen
and,
and
things
could
change
so
I
I
support
it
for
that
reason
that
it's
just
it's
good
to
have
more
options
on
the
table.
We
also
kind
of
just
the
guy.
When
I
say
we
can.
J
I
just
like
direct
democracy,
just
think
it's
kind
of
good
and
and
so
the
empowering
people
to
bring
ideas
forward,
and
that's
you.
E
J
That's
a
thing
where
we
disagree
with
the
mayor
and-
and
I
think
honestly
legitimately
you
know
I
mean
he
doesn't
really
like
that-
doesn't
think
it
produces
good
policy
and
we
kind
of
think
it
does,
and
I
think
there
are
anything
that
that
the
hardest
core
advocates
and
organizers
forward
is
going
to
have
to
pass
at
the
ballot
box
and
be
supported
by
everybody.
J
And
so
that's
the
thing
that
would
put
put
some
maybe
constraint
on
on
exactly
how
how
firm
they
want
to
be
on
everything
they
they
have
to
count
50,
plus
one
votes.
So
that's
that's
why
we
supported
that.
That's
why
we
brought
it
forward.
That's
why
cam
will
be
voting
to
override
the
guitar.
H
J
So
again,
I
there
isn't
really
a
proposal
yet
there's
something
that
minneapolis
united
for
rent
control
has
put
out
as
a
conversation
starter.
But
it's
not
it's
not
actually
a
written
thing.
I
would
expect
that
they
would
that
they
would
put
something
forward.
That
looks
pretty
much
like
what
they're
putting
forward
in
st
paul
this
year.
J
F
C
D
D
You
know
why
why
limit
the
options
at
this
stage
in
the
game
when,
when
you
know,
as
was
stated,
there,
isn't
even
a
specific
proposal
on
the
table,
so
I'd
be
in
favor
of
of
letting
council
know
that
we
that
we
as
a
group,
support
the
notion
of
having
both
pathways
available.
A
A
This
is
where
I
need
more
expertise
than
I
have
on
the
rules,
but
I
think
we
might
need
to
wait
until
they're
back.
H
Since
we
are
waiting
I'll
just
share
that
I'm
not
an
advocate
for
for
pushing
both
forward,
I
like
the
idea
of
the
city
council
having
the
ability,
because
there's
quite
a
bit
of
nuance
to
these
types
of
things
and
as
we've
already
found
for
city
charter
types
of
things,
the
verbiage
is
very
difficult
to
understand
and
in
the
cases
of
what's
going
to
be
coming
forward
like
on
the
strong
mayor
thing,
it's
it's
very
confusing
for
people
that
really
don't
delve
into
it
and
I'll
just
use
the
example
like
having
that
you,
the
control
piece.
H
I
own
properties-
and
I
went
back
and
looked
at
my
10
or
12
year-
average
of
rent
increases
and
on
average
they're
1.8
percent,
which
came
very
close
to
the
cure
study
over
a
20-year
period.
They
averaged
1.8
percent,
but
what
I
try
to
do
is
not
raise
them
while
renters
are
in
place.
So
I
do
the
the
rent
raises
in
between
tenants.
So
if
there
was
no
d
control,
I'd
be
forced
to
raise
rent
every
year
to
current
people,
which
I
hesitate
from
doing,
because
I
I'd
be
precluded
from
raising
in
between.
H
H
K
I
think
that
why
the
advocacy
and
education
piece
is
so
important,
because
I
do
think
voters
and
renters
are
able
to
understand
legislation
that
directly
affects
their
daily
lives
and
should
be
able
to
have
a
voice
on
that
and
again,
the
the
nuances
of
the
the
policy
is
not
actually
what
is
at
play
with
this
vote
tomorrow.
It's
it's
keeping
the
pathways
open
to
have
multiple
options
to
move
to
move
forward
so
yeah.
F
Hey
this
is
karina.
I
have
some,
I
don't
have
a
question,
but
I
have
to
step
away.
I
have
some
construction
going
on
in
my
house
what
you
guys
are
doing.
C
Sure
did
you
hear
the
update
about
the
rent
stabilization,
the
rent
control
amendments,
no.
C
So
real
quick
overview,
so
there's
two
ballot
initiatives
that
the
city
council
has
put
forward
to
put
on
the
ballot
this
year.
One
would
allow
the
city
council
to
consider
a
rent
control
ordinance
in
the
future.
The
other
one
would
allow
like
a
voter
initiative
to
have
voters
come
up
with
or
have
citizens
residents
come
up
with
a
rent
control
policy
that
would
go
on
potentially
a
ballot
in
the
future.
Both
of
them
are
just
allowing
either
of
those
things
to
happen
in
the
future.
C
So
the
city
council
has
supported
both
of
those.
The
mayor
vetoed
the
option
of
putting
on
the
ballot
the
option
of
allowing
voters
to
put
about
a
rent
control
policy
on
the
ballot
picture,
and
tomorrow
the
city
council
is
considering
whether
or
not
they
want
to
vote,
or
they
will
vote
to
override
that
veto
and
still
move
forward
with
both
rent
and
full
pounds.
C
F
Yeah
I
mean
we
definitely
know
that
it's
it's
so
needed
with
these
arrests
and
miniatures
so
high
and
people
paycheck
not
magical
for
rent
stabilization.
You
know.
C
And
for
those
who
might
not
be
looking
robin
just
put
in
the
chat
the
li,
the
letter
that
the
mayor
drafted
the
veto
letter
explaining
his
veto,
so
that
you
can
kind
of
if
you
want
to
take
some
time
to
get
that
perspective
as
well.
Robin
just
put
that
in
the
chat
liliana.
C
J
Maybe
I'll
take
that
so
if
both
of
the
pathways
are
put
on
the
ballot
this
fall
and
if
both
of
them
pass,
I
would
say
there
absolutely
could
be
a
a
hybrid
that
folks
follow
in
terms
of
the
procedure
next
year.
So
just
like
to
game
it
out
a
little
bit.
One
of
the
things
that
could
happen
is
organizers
could
start
gathering
signatures
pretty
quickly
in
2022
for
the
sort
of
firmest
version
of
the
of
the
policy
that.
J
The
council
would
do
just
on
its
own
and
and
organizers,
could
then
make
a
decision
at
whatever
point
you
know
before
july
or
august,
when
they
would
have
to
submit
everything
and
actually
start
the
process
to
formally
put
something
on
the
ballot
to
say.
Okay,
you've
now
passed
a
rent,
stabilization
law
that
is
strong
enough
for
us
to
support
it,
so
we'll
feel
free
to
now
pull
back
our
our
signatures
and
we
won't
go
forward.
J
So
I
think
that
there
are
a
number
of
different
ways
that
the
two
pathways
can
kind
of
converge
or
or
impact
each
other
and-
and
I
think,
that's
kind
of
a
healthy
tension
and
and
like
a
set
of
checks
and
balances
so
yeah.
I
think
if,
if
they
both
get
onto
the
ballot-
and
they
both
pass,
there's
a
lot
of
additional
ways
that
it
could
that
it
could
go.
C
Well,
maybe
I
am
not
I'm
not
seeing
scott
or
colleen
right
now,
so
maybe
maybe
it
makes
sense
to
move
on
to
other
parts
of
our
agenda
for
now,
with
the
with
the
plan
that
we'll
we'll
circle
back
to
this
to
take
a
vote
and
answer
any
final
questions
later
in
our
meeting.
If
that
does
that
plan
sound
generally,
okay,
like
it
makes
sense
charlotte,
go
ahead.
Yeah.
I
I
actually
have
a
question
in
the
other
states
that
that
have
passed
a
rent
stabilization
policy
were,
did
they
also
have
state
laws
that
they
were
navigating
around
and
and
which
pathway
ended
up
working
for
those
states?
Robin
do
you
know.
J
So
it
at
the
at
the
state
level,
so
there
isn't
any
federal
preemption
of
rent
stabilization
that
I'm
aware
of
so
at
the
state
level.
Oregon
and
california
were
able
to
just
sort
of
do
what
they
wanted
to
do.
J
I'm
not
aware
of
another
state
that
has
this
frankly
kind
of
strange
half
or
partial
preemption
of
rent
stabilization
that
many
that
minnesota
has.
There
are
other
states
that
have
a
full
preemption
that
say
no
city
in
our
state
can
ever
adopt
any
kind
of
rent,
stabilization
or
rent
control
law.
Then
there
are
other
states
that
don't
have
that
kind
of
preemption
minnesota.
J
I
think,
is
a
little
bit
weird
in
having
one
that
says
you
can't,
unless
you
put
it
on
the
ballot
and
people
vote
for
it,
and
so
that's
the
thing
that
we're
navigating
is
is
the
existence
of
that
state
law
and
the
fact
that
it
requires
us
to
have
the
authorization
of
the
people
in
some
way
on
the
whole
concept
of
rent,
stabilization
and-
and
that's
so
so
to
your
point,
because
no
city
in
minnesota
has
dealt
with.
J
J
It
will
be
helpful
to
us
if
st
paul
passes
their
ballot
initiative
this
year.
I
would
expect
that
that
would
be
challenged
and,
and
so
they'll
be
a
little
bit
ahead
of
us
in
terms
of
having
some
sort
of
court
weigh
in
on
exactly
what
the
law
means.
The
the
law
is
also
just
for
what
it's
worth
pretty
ambiguously
worded.
So
it's
I
think
it's
going
to
take
potentially
some
litigation
to
figure
out
like
how
it
how
it
is
really
supposed
to
work.
J
So
I
guess
the
the
short
answer
to
your
question
is:
no.
There
isn't
really
anybody
else
that
we
can
look
to
for
guidance
on
this.
C
All
right,
I
see,
I
see
colleen
your
chat,
you're
typing
in
the
chat.
I
don't
know
if
that
means
you
can't
talk
right
now,
but
if
you're
back,
if
you
wanna,
let
us
know.
C
A
I
think
maybe
we
should
table
it
and
come
back
when
there
we
can
take
the
vote
and
maybe,
in
the
meantime
I
can
try
to
confirm
the
rules
like
if
we
had
a
quorum
at
the
beginning.
Can
we
take
the
vote
with
if
we
don't
have
one
right
now
so.
F
C
Let's
move
forward
and
circle
back,
I
think
that's
the
right
thing
to
do
scott
and
I
don't
yeah
all
right.
Let's
move
on
all
right,
so
the
next
thing
that
we
just
wanted
to
give
some
space
on
the
agenda
for
today
was
the
eviction
moratorium,
off-ramp
legislation,
it
might
kind
of
seem
like
old
news
by
now,
but
it
didn't
exist
at
our
when
we
all
met
the
last
time
in
early
june.
C
So
we
were
thinking
we
would
just
kind
of
overview
kind
of
the
stages
of
the
off-ramp
and
the
protections
and
rules
of
the
legislation
and
then
just
have
some
time
for
people
to
share
either
what
you're,
seeing
and
experiencing
on
the
ground
or
to
ask
questions
about
it,
as
you
might
be
interacting
with
it
in
your
you
know,
professional
or
personal
capacities.
C
It's
of
course
something
that
we
at
legal
aid
have
been.
You
know
not
only
advocating
you
know
we're
in
the
advocacy
space
as
the
legislation
was
being
created,
but
then
now
are
dealing
with
it
in
the
in
the
zoom
courtroom
every
day,
so
I've
been
in
court.
You
know
several
times
in
the
last
couple
months.
C
Doing
you
know
representing
clients
in
the
midst
of
these
new
laws,
so
happy
to
have
some
time
for
discussion
of
what
people
are
experiencing,
what
questions
people
have
there's
obviously
also
the
the
rental
minnesota
program,
which
is
more
of
a
state
thing,
but
you
know
there's
some
interrelated
pieces
of
the
moratorium,
so
katie
did.
E
C
Want
to
share
the
just
the
minnesota
housing
has
kind
of
an
overview
of
the
timeline
that
we're
just
going
to
put
up
on
the
screen
as
we
talk
through
it.
C
So
many
of
you
have
maybe
seen
this
image
floating
around,
but
the
the
off
ramp
as
as
they're
calling
it
began
on
june
30th,
but
really
fast
forwarding
to
what's
relevant.
Now
at
this
point
in
time,
starting
july,
14th
landlords
could
file
evictions
for
breach
of
lease
for
the
first
time
so
for
material
breaches
of
lease
and
we've
seen
a
lot
there's
a
lot
of
these
cases
in
hennepin
county.
C
So
we
practice
in
the
fourth
district,
the
hennepin
county
courthouse,
and
there
are
two
to
four
kind
of
group
calendars
every
week
at
the
courthouse
that
have
anywhere
right
now
they
have
like
12
to
20
cases
on
every
calendar
right
now.
So
we
are,
you
know,
we're
seeing
50
to
100
eviction
cases-
probably
not
quite
a
hundred,
but
right
now
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
evictions,
mostly
for
breach
of
lease.
C
So
landlords
right
now
can
file
an
eviction
case
for
a
material
breach
of
lease
or
they
could
file
the
other
things
that
they
could
file
for
are
if
they
allege
that
the
tenant
is
eligible
for
rental
assistance
covered
rental
assistance,
but
the
tenant
is
refusing
to
apply
or
comply
with
that
program
or
if
there's
kind
of
exceptional
situations
like
criminal
activity
that
the
landlord's
alleging
that
the
person
is
a
danger
to
the
community.
That
kind
of
thing.
C
And
when
you
talk
you
you're
in
settlement
negotiations,
kind
of
behind
the
scenes
of
you
know,
rent
also
hasn't
been
paid,
and
so
they're
they're
also
really
concerned
about
rent.
So
we're
working
on
navigating
those
those
cases
and
representing
folks.
C
You
know
through
trial,
if
needed,
in
the
breach
of
lease
trial,
but
also
trying
to
just
resolve
the
situation,
help
get
the
renter
applied,
get
their
application
in
for
rental
assistance.
If
that's
truly
what
the
landlord
is
most
concerned
about
so
anyway,
that's
the
period
that
we're
in
right
now,
starting
tomorrow,
elise
could
be
terminated.
C
So
this
is
an
eviction
filing,
but
starting
tomorrow,
landlords
are
allowed
to
give
notice
that
elise
will
be
terminated
if
a
person
is
not
if
their
tenant
is
not
eligible
for
coveted
rental
assistance
and
then
a
month
one
month
later
september,
12th
is
when
landlords
can
begin
to
file
non-payment
of
rent
cases.
C
If
the
tenant
is
not
eligible
for
rent
help
for
coven-based
rental
assistance
for
all
non-payment
of
rent
cases
through
october
12th,
the
landlord
needs
to
give
a
15-day,
pre-eviction
filing
notice.
C
So
just
a
reminder
that
that
is
a
is
permanent
policy
in
the
city
of
minneapolis
right
now,
but
then
on
october
12th,
these
protections
end
so
starting
october
12th,
a
landlord
could
file
a
non-payment
or
rent
case
as
usual,
if
brent
is
behind,
with
the
big
exception
that
if
the
tenant
has
a
pending
application
through
rent
help,
minnesota
or
covid
based
rent
assistance
program,
that
non-payment
case
cannot
move
forward
while
that
rent
application
is
pending.
C
So
if
the
landlord
knows
there's
a
case,
they
have
an
application
pending.
They
shouldn't
be
filing
a
non-payment
case
and
if
they,
if
the
tenant
applies
in
the
meantime,
those
cases
should
be
put
on
pause
and
that
protection
goes
through
june,
1st
of
2022
next
year.
So
that's
kind
of
quick
overview
of
the
off-ramp
legislation.
C
I'm
sure
this
is
not
news
to
many
of
you,
but
we
just
thought
we
wanted
to
give
some
space
for
discussion
on
it
right
now
and
I'm
just
looking
to
see
yeah
so,
like
I
said
we're
representing
as
many
people
for
now
mmla
legal
aid
has
had
the
capacity
at
hennepin
to
represent
all
the
tenants
who
come
to
court.
Who
say
they
want
a
lawyer
as
cases
increase
that
you
know.
I
don't
know
how
long
that
will
be
the
case,
but
so
far
just
a
reminder.
C
You
know
we
are
seeing
folks
in
court
and
especially
if
there's
a
dispute
about
rent
the
best
advice
for
anybody
is
apply,
apply,
apply
for
rent
help
or
covered
based,
rent
assistance,
so
yeah.
C
L
Have
a
question
out
of
the
50
100
cases
that
that
you
are,
you
know,
reviewing
or
representing
tenants
how
many
of
those
are
for
people
that
are
either
afraid
to
apply,
or
they
just
don't
know
how
to
the
process
or
they
just
in
denial.
C
Say
good
question,
so
most
of
the
cases
are
on
paper.
What
the
what
the
landlord
filed
the
case
about
was
an
alleged
breach
of
the
lease,
because
that's
what
is
that's
the
main
kind
of
case
that
can
be
filed
right
now
and
then,
sometime
and
a
case,
that's
just
about
breach
of
lease
can
move
forward.
If
the
landlord
proves
that
the
lieutenant
has
breached
the
lease
it
doesn't
matter,
then
if
they
have
a
rent
help
application
pending
the
landlord
can
move
forward
with
a
breach
of
lease
case.
C
If
they
prove
you
know,
the
tenant
has
an
unauthorized
person
living
there
or
or
whatever
the
breach
might
be.
But
I
will
say
on
the
ground,
we
are
seeing
a
lot
of.
Unfortunately,
a
lot
of
people
still
don't
know
about
this
program
or
have
struggled
to
effectively
apply
they
or
they
aren't
really
sure
you
know,
like
I
called
someone
helped.
I
don't
know
if
I
have
a
pending
application.
C
One
of
the
challenges,
I
think
with
the
rental
minnesota
program,
has
been
communication
between
the
program
and
the
applicant
and
easy
access
for
the
applicant
to
to
know
and
then,
of
course,
all
the
barriers
that
a
person
might
be
experiencing,
whether
it's
access
to
internet
or
a
device
that
that
makes
it
easy
to
get
that
update.
C
So
I
would
say
it's
a
mix,
but
we
are
seeing.
I
mean
people
are
being
evicted
right
now
for
breach
of
lease.
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
I
was
curious,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
saw
over
the
summer
we
we
ran
a
hotline
just
while
social
workers
were
out
of
their
buildings.
We
ran
a
hotline
just
to
kind
of
help.
I
People
navigate
both
our
internal
resources
and
external
resources
and
by
far
the
most
common
sort
of
outcome
of
the
calls
was
from
folks
who
had
applied
for
rent
help,
but
hadn't
heard
anything
back
and
we're
just
kind
of
looking
for
support
or
some
confirmation,
and
we
also
found
that
they
often
didn't
know
they
were
protected
from
evictions.
I
When
does
it
get
caught
that
they've
actually
applied
and
that
this
isn't
like
and
will
that
always
get
caught
and
what
if
they
thought
they
had
applied,
but
maybe
they
were
missing
some
paperwork
just
kind
of
wondering
about
those
two
scenarios
and
how
people
will?
I
guess
how
that
will
get
captured
legally
through
the
process.
C
It's
a
great
question,
and
it
is
something
that
we're
working
on
internally
a
lot
because
there's
not
great
access
to
the
system
to
see
and
even
the
field
partners
the
folks
that
have
received
funds
to
be.
You
know
to
really
directly
help
folks
apply.
C
You
know
we're
there
at
court
when
the
case
is
virtually
at
court
right
now
and
if
that
were
to
happen
where
the
especially,
if
the
case
wasn't
filed
for
non-payment
or
rent,
which
we
are
not
able
to
see
we're
not
seeing
those
cases
quite
yet,
but
once
we
do,
we
will
be
in
that
moment
helping
that
tenant
figure
that
out
so
we'll
if
they
have
their
login
information,
we
can
help
them
get
in
or
we
will
contact
minnesota
housing
or
you
know
whichever
program
it
is
we're
also
working
on
some
additional
capacity
to
maybe
get
some
additional
folks
at
court
to
help
people
get
applications
in
if
they
haven't
applied
or
didn't
know
about
it.
C
From
my
perspective,
it's
it's
helpful
that
the
legislation
says
the
case
also
may
not
proceed.
So
it's
not
like
the
case
has
been
filed
and
then
you've
lost
your
chance.
The
case
has
been
filed
and
at
that
first
quarter
period
appearance
we
meet
with
that
tenant
and
we
get
to
help
them
get
an
application
in
it.
It
should
be
treated
like
a
pause
button
on
that
case
until
that
application
has
worked
its
way
through
and
yeah.
C
That's
my
experience
too
talking
with
tenants
is
that
it's
months
several
months
months
before
they're
hearing
anything
right
now,
but
yes,
that's
a
challenge
and
something
that
we're
that
we're
working
on.
F
L
Could
we
provide
our
rapid
response
hotline
to
you
so
in
case
that
somebody's
in
court
and
want
to
apply
right
away?
You
know
you
can
say
call
now,
and
you
know
we
have.
You
know
from
8
a.m
until
6
00
p.m.
You
know
monday,
through
saturday
we
have
housing
counselors.
That
can
help
them.
So
is
that
a
possibility?
So
we
can,
you
know,
immediately,
provide
the
assistance
that
people
need
that.
C
B
Yeah,
the
other
thing
that
I
would
just
like
to
underscore
on
this
is
just
a
reminder
that
there
is
tons
and
tons
of
money
and
more
money
than
we
need,
and
obviously
there
have
been
problems
getting
the
money
out
in
time,
but
I
just
I
would
re.
I
would
underscore
joey's
comment
to
just
anyone
try
to
get
spread.
The
word
there's
money
available.
People
should
apply
if
in
doubt
apply-
and
you
know
there
are
both
there's.
There
are
two
different
paths.
C
So
there's
a
limit
for
of
15
months.
Currently
I
think
that's
maybe
getting
extended
to
18
months
colleen.
You
might
have
more
specifics
on
that,
but
a
total
of
15
months.
That's
one
of
the
one
of
the
challenges.
That's
a
little
hard
is
maybe
somebody
applied
in
may
because
they
knew
they
were
behind
on
march
april
and
may
rent,
let's
say,
and
now
it's
august
and
they
haven't
heard
anything
or
maybe
they
got
their
check
and
now
they're
behind
again
they
can
reapply
after
a
period
of
time.
C
I
think
it's
30
days
before
you
can
reapply,
but
I
know
I
do
know.
There's
a
cap
currently
of
15
months
of
total
coverage,
but
something
else
that
people
should
know
is
if
you
have
back
rent
that
you're
applying
for,
because
you
know
I'm
behind
now,
maybe
for
july
and
august
rent
you
can
also
apply
for
up
to
three
months
of
prospective
rent.
C
So
I
could
apply
for
july
and
august
and
september
october
october
and
november,
which
I
think
is
a
really
good
idea
for
people
to
be
doing
because,
especially
through
rent
help
minnesota,
because
of
the
time
that
we
know
that
it's
taking
for
those
applications
to
get
processed,
but
people
can
also
amend
their
application.
It's
not
exactly
a
smooth
process
to
do
so,
but
it
is
possible
to
amend
your
application
as
you.
If
you
haven't
heard,
and
now
you
need
to
make
an
amendment
about
how
much
you
owe
I
don't
know.
D
F
C
B
Number
of
times
so
you
know
you
can
apply
multiple
times.
I
mean,
I
think
you
it's
really
about
the
total
month
cap.
So
if
you
have
already
submitted
one
got
paid
you
you
could
submit
again
right,
but
it
just
and
at
least
since
your
balance
project,
there's
some
of
the
documentation
would
already
be
there.
So
it
is,
you
know,
conceivably
easier.
I
don't
know
enough.
I've
not
been
into
the
insides
of
rent,
help
mn
to
know
how
that
works,
but
like
the
lease
and
such
would
be
there.
B
Obviously,
so
you'd
have
to
show
again
the
ledger
being
behind.
But,
yes,
you
could
apply
multiple
times,
so
don't
like.
H
H
Yeah
I
I've
helped
one
of
my
tenants
get
two
checks.
So
far
and
literally
I
do
about
80
percent
of
the
work,
because
they're
they're
just
very
confused
by
the
process,
but
they
did
one
on
their
own
and
they
got
it,
but
it
was
for
a
month,
but
it
but
they're
already
behind
again
and
I
was
like
well,
you
can.
You
can
apply
for
three
months
out
because
she
lost
her
job
right.
H
So
I
you
know-
and
I'm
actually
teaching
landlords
that
they
can
do
this
to
help
their
not
only
get
their
money
but
help
their
people
that
that
are
hosed
right.
So
it's
I
think,
emphasizing
that
you
can
get
three
months
out
in
advance
as
well
is
really
really
strategic
to
keep
people
in
their
housing.
C
Yeah
yeah,
I
agree.
Another
piece
that
I
would
just
add
is
that
you
know
we
talk
with
the
landlords
that
we're
meeting
with
at
court
on
behalf
of
our
the
our
clients
is.
It
is
a
requirement
for
at
least
it's
it's
for
sure.
A
stringent
requirement
for
rental
minnesota
that,
if
that,
once
the
tenant
has
moved
rent
help
is
not
going
to
pay
that
former
landlord.
So
that's
something
that
we
talk
about
in
eviction
court
right
is.
C
You
can
move
forward
with
this
eviction,
but
then
you're
not
you're,
saying
goodbye
to
your
your
chance
to
get
the
the
rent
assistance,
so
they
will
only
pay
if
the
tenant
is
at
the
time,
they're
cutting
the
check,
or
at
that
time
you
know
that
the
person
is
still
living
in
that
property.
Now,
there's
been
advocacy
kind
of
on
both
sides,
because
the
program
is
meant
to
be
about
housing
stability,
which
is
why
rent
help
has
made
that
decision.
C
A
So
joey,
the
only
the
thing
I
was
going
to
add
before
is
that
the
city
and
hennepin
county
are
working
together
to
try
to
figure
out
strategies
for
reaching
people
at
housing
court,
but
also
who
may
have
a
filing
but
haven't
had
their
first
hearing.
Yet
so
hennepin
county
does
have
access
to
that
data
and
has
staffing
through
the
tenant
resource
center,
to
be
able
to
make
phone
calls
to
people
who
are
getting
eviction
notices
to
try
to
help
them
complete
applications.
A
So
they
have
some
staffing
right
now
to
be
able
to
do
that,
but
we're
in
conversations
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
increase
that
capacity
to
reach
people
and
make
them
aware
of
how
to
file
hennepin
county
and
the
city
also
did
hire
several
non-profit
organizations
to
be
field
navigators
for
emergency
rental
assistance.
So
those
organizations
will
also
be
helping
people
that
people
the
resource
coordinators
who
are
stationed
at
housing
court
can
also
filter
information
to
those
navigators
to
help
people
get
applications
completed
more
quickly.
So
we're.
A
The
process
of
getting
some
of
those
systems
up
and
running
right
now,
but
hopefully
you
know
I
know.
Certainly
people
are
facing
addiction
already,
but
hopefully
that'll
be
more
sort
of
more
capacity
to
help
people
complete
applications
by
october,
when
there's
likely
to
be
even
greater
number
of
people.
I
So
if
we
are,
if
we
are
working
with
folks
who
have
applied
but
just
don't
know
like
where
they're
at
and
or
have
like
their
their
landlord,
is
saying
that
they're
going
to
get
evicted,
where
is
the
best
place
like?
Is
the
tenant
resource
center,
the
best
place
to
send
people
where,
where,
if
we
just
really
aren't
sure
and
the
tenant
isn't
sure
or
or
are
those
field,
navigators
better?
It
was
a
little
tricky
for
us
to
know
where
to
send
people
and
want
to
do
it
as
directly
as
possible.
I
A
That's
a
good
question
I
mean
I
I
think
if
it's
rent
help
at
211
is
the
place
to
send
people
to
get
the
latest
information,
because
2-1-1
should
be
able
to
look
up
someone's
application
status
and
then
the
person
doesn't
have
to
know
whether
it's
the
city's
funding
or
the
state's
funding
like
it's
all
in
that
system.
So
I
think
2-1-1
is
the
best
place.
If,
if
the
question
really
is
like
do
I
have
a
submitted
application?
It's
two
on
one.
A
If
the
question
is
and
joey
feel
free
to
add
more
to
this,
if
you
disagree,
but
if
the
question
is,
I
have
an
eviction
notice
and
I
need
help
responding
to
that.
Then
it's
then
it's
legal
aid
or
home
line.
Probably,
but
if
it's
just
simply,
I
don't
know
what
the
status
of
my
application
is
in
rent
help.
Then
it's
two
one
one.
If
it's
for
colleen
for
a
zero
balance
project,
it
would
be
the
housing
link.
B
Housing
link
number,
which
is
that
on
the
webpage
I'll
put
that
into
the
chat
here
too,
and
I
saw
liliana,
you
had
a
question
or
maybe
it
was
a
question
or
comment.
You
were
saying
spanish
and
english
bilingual.
Maybe
that
was
for
your
services.
B
The
right,
I
know
I
know
rental
mn
has
has
different
languages.
I
don't
again
know
the
details
as
well,
but
yeah
for
zero
balance
project.
We
have
kitties
at
five
or
six
languages
and
that's
you
can
call
and
get
someone
on
the
phone.
B
I'll
put
this
link
in
here:
it
includes
a
phone
number
and
and
and
people
are
by
and
large,
you
will
get
someone
to
answer
the
phone
immediately
and
if
not,
they
call
back
within.
You
know
an
hour
at
most,
it's
it's
not
like
be
on
hold
for
two
hours
or
call
back
in
five
days
kind
of
thing.
C
For
for,
if
they
call
two
one
one
and
and
they
identify
that
they
need
help,
two
one
one
should
be
connecting
them
with
a
field
partner
based
on
their
language
needs
or,
like
they'll,
pick
they'll
connect
on
with
the
field
printer
based
on
their
needs.
You
know,
there's
several
community
groups,
housing
justice
center.
Other
groups.
Are
these
field
partners
that
they're
they're?
What
they're
doing
is-
and
I
think
clues
is
one
of
them,
so
they
will.
C
But
you
need
to
cut
there's
not
like
some
list
of
field
navigators,
and
you
pick
one
and
go
straight
to
the
field
navigator.
Unfortunately,
I
mean
I
see.
Liliana
has
her
information
about.
You
know
help
here,
but
in
the
general
advice
it's
called
two
in
one
say
you
want
to
apply
and
you
want
help
applying
yeah.
B
And
the
same,
if
you're
for
the
zero
balance
project
portion,
obviously
the
landlord
initiates
it
and
then
and
gets
like
the
property
information
and
the
lease
and
the
back
rent
do
and
then
it
goes
to
the
tenant.
Who
then
has
to
support,
provide
their
information
and
similarly,
if
for
that
portion
of
the
the
renter
completing
their
part
of
the
application,
they
can
also
call
in
to
the,
in
this
case,
it'd,
be
the
housing
number
for
questions
on
how
to
complete
that
application
or
their
portion
of
it.
B
Charlotte,
are
you
what
kinds
of
questions
are
you
getting
other
I
mean
you
you
mentioned
this
like.
Can
you
you
had
a
question
about?
When
would
they?
How
would
someone
know
if
they're
being
evicted
and
if
there's
a
pending
application,
are
you
getting
those
kinds
of
questions
or
what
are
the
biggest
questions
that
people
are
coming
to
you
with.
I
B
C
Yeah
and
obviously
like
if
people
have
legal
questions
or
wondering
if
someone
might
benefit
from
talking
to
someone
at
legal
aid
like
please
feel
free
to
just
reach
out
to
me
directly.
C
In
addition
to,
of
course,
you
know
having
them
go
through
our
intake
process,
but
if
quick
questions,
I'm
super
happy
to
be
available
for
questions
or
making
those
a
warmer
handoff
through
our
intake
system
at
any
time
colleen,
while
you
were
gone,
we
talked
a
little
bit,
there's
some
more
discussion
about
the
rent,
stabilization
charter
amendments,
I'm
not
sure
when
you,
I
don't
remember
when
you
exactly
walked
away,
but
the
this
committee
is
considering
making
a
recommendation
to
city
council
to
vote
in
favor
of
both
charter
amendments
tomorrow.
C
So
we
we
had
some
discussion
about
that
and
that
seemed
to
come
to
sort
of
a
natural
end.
But
we
sort
of
we
waited
on
voting
on
that
recommendation,
because
you
and
scott
were
both
away.
So.
B
So
we
are
not
taking
a
position
on
anything
prior
to
there
being
some
policy,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
complexity
to
it,
there's
a
lot
of
potential
unintended
consequences
and
I
think
the
policy
itself
matters
a
lot,
so
I
won't
be
able
to
vote
on
any
I'd
have
to
understand.
B
A
Yeah,
it
looks
like
scott
is
back
as
well,
so
I
think
I
don't
know
if
you
made
a
formal
motion,
but
yeah.
C
Maybe
at
this
time,
I'll
just
renew
my
motion
to
have
this
committee
make
just
a
simple
recommendation
to
the
city
council
to
vote
in
favor
of
moving
forward
with
both
of
the
rent
stabilization
charter
amendments
that
were
discussed
yeah.
So,
if
there's
any
final
discussion,
otherwise
we
can,
if
there's
a
second,
then
we
can
move
forward
to
a
vote.
D
A
H
B
G
K
B
Let's
see
and
do
we
have
I'm
trying
to
remember
now,
so
I
don't
we,
I
don't
think
we
have
topics
for
september.
Yet
right,
katie
and
yeah.
H
A
Yeah
then
the
other
thing
just
to
consider
would
be
the
when
you
may
want
to
talk
about
the
budget,
so
I
would
just
throw
those
out
for
consideration.
C
Yeah
so
we'll,
like,
I
think,
katie
or
yeah
katie
said
earlier.
The
mayor's
budget,
the
mayor's
proposed
budget,
will
come
out
tomorrow
and
then
kind
of
in
the
coming
weeks
and
months
will
be
when
the
the
council
goes
through
its
process
of
adopting,
or
you
know,
marking
up
and
hearing
hearing
doing
public
hearings.
Last
year
in
this
committee
we
had
a
brief
discussion
in
at
our
september
meeting
kind
of
in
september.
C
We
made
a
plan
for
how
we
wanted
to
comment
on
the
budget,
and
then
it
was
at
our
october
meeting
last
year
when
we
really
dug
in
and
rose
tang,
put
together
a
number
of
potential
positions.
We
could
take
on
housing
related
things
in
the
budget
and
we
voted
on
those
independently
of
what
we
wanted
to
do.
That's
how
we
did
it
last
year
for
the
budget.
We
can
do
that
again
or
we
can
do
it
differently.
C
So
that's
the
budget
and
then
the
other
thing
that
has
been
brought
up
is
a
conversation
about
people
experiencing
unsheltered
homelessness
in
the
city
of
minneapolis
lisa,
who,
I
don't
think
it's
here
today,
but
offered
to
give
this
committee
some
grounding
frame.
You
know
information
about
specifically
from
the
youth
perspective
of
youth,
experiencing
homelessness
right
now,
so
that
was
another
thing
that
has
been
risen
up
from
you
all
that
I
think
we're
trying.
We
would
love
to
get
on
the
calendar
when
it
makes
sense.
C
I
I'll
just
add
that
when
it
does
make
sense
to
have
lisa
do
that
that
it
could
be
a
nice
addition
to
have
to
look
at
our
mps
data
around
students
experiencing
homelessness
and
sort
of
who
right
now
qualifies
for
housing
support
through
our
coordinated
entry
system
and
who
doesn't
and
some
changes
that
we've
seen
recently
given
lower
family
shelter
numbers
and
higher
doubled
up
in
motel
numbers
than
we've
historically
seen.
So
when
it
makes
sense,
I
would
love
to
partner
with
lisa
and
add
that
context
as
well.
B
H
Charlotte,
I
I'd
love
to
hear
you
give
an
update
on
where
we
are
with
stable
homes.
Also,
just
so
people
know
the
direction
and
just
you
know
the
sheer
need
for
additional
funding
and
additional
units
that
that
we
need
to.
You
know,
make
available
right
so
and
then,
hopefully
we
can
pass
something
on
to
council
to
do
some
things
to
you
know,
put
some
put
put
something
behind
it
right
to
so
to
make
sure
it
happens,.
K
If
there's
time
in
that
same
meeting,
it
might
be
nice
to
just
round
out
that
conversation
with
somebody
that
can
speak
to
single
adult
homelessness.
I
know
there's
been
some
changes
with
shelters
and
you
know:
shelters
staying
24
7
after
well,
not
after
covert
we're
not
after
covered,
but
as
we
move
forward
just
to
round
that
out.
If
we
have
somebody
from
you
know
that
can
speak
to
youth
homelessness
and
family
homelessness.
Adding
somebody
to
speak
to
single
adult
homelessness
would
be
nice
if
there's
time.
A
Yeah
we've
had
david
hewitt
before
another
person
from
the
county,
who
could
also
speak
to
that
as
danielle
werder,
who's
recently
became
the
manager
at
the
office
to
end
homelessness
and
works
with
all
the
single
adult
shelters.
So.
A
And
then
I
would
just
we
talked
about
this
earlier,
but
it's
likely
that
the
there
will
want
to
have
an
opportunity
to
purchase
policy
discussion
before
the
end
of
the
year
in
this
committee,
that'll
be
somewhat
dependent
on.
I
don't
think
it
will
not
be
in
september,
but
potentially
could
be
october
or
november.
B
I
think
that
gives
us
a
pretty
good
list
for
our
remaining
four
sessions
of
the
year
plus,
whatever
else
emerges.
F
B
Well,
I
think
we
get
30
minutes
back
on
our
thursday
afternoon,
which
is
like
the
first
time
ever.
I
feel
like
the
last
year.
It's
been
these
jam-packed
agendas
where
we've
been
going
right
up
to
game
time.
So
it's
like
a
nice
little
summer
august.
Surprise.