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B
C
Perils
of
the
21st
century
good
afternoon.
Welcome
to
this
virtual
meeting
of
the
charter
commission's
government
structure
work
group.
This
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
.021
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
greg
abbott.
I
am
one
of
the
co-chairs
of
the
charter
commission's
government
structure
work
group.
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role
so
that
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a.
C
D
E
F
C
C
Yes,
let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum.
We
will
now
proceed
to
our
agenda,
a
copy
of
which
was
posted
for
public
access
to
the
city's
legislative
information
management
system,
which
is
available
at.
C
H
C
The
agenda
has
been
moved
and
seconded.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
agenda
before
the
clerk
calls
the
role
hearing?
None?
Would
the
clerk
call
the
role
on
the
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda?
Please.
J
G
C
C
That
motion
passes
and
the
agenda
is
adopted.
We
have,
we
have
one
item
on
the
agenda
tonight,
which
is
the
reviewing
the
draft
language
of
the
most
recent
amendment
language
and
with
our
guest.
B
Meeting
and
mr.
B
Chair,
I
would
remind
the
callers
who
are
participating,
so
mr
melendez
may
be
muted
and
would
need
to
press
star
six
on
his
phone
in
order
to
unmute.
C
Have
we
got
a
mr
melendez
star,
sixth.
C
Chair
clegg,
do
you
know
if,
if
mr
melendez
is
around.
J
I
don't
know
if
he's
on
the
meeting
I
talked
to
him
recently
and
he
was
planning
on
it.
I
will
try
and
reach
him
offline.
Okay,.
C
Well,
let
me
let
me
take
the
opportunity
to
lay
down
a
couple
of
ground
rules
or
more
suggestions
really
than
rules
as
we
get
into
the
language
here
we
should.
I
would
prefer
that
discussions
occur
in
the
context
of
emotion
so
that
we
can
kind
of
narrow
the
the
discussion
to
which
language
we're,
removing
or
proposing
to
remove
and
which
language
we're
proposing
to
add.
C
I
I
feel
like
we
could.
A
kind
of
a
general
grammatical
free-for-all
could
occur
unless
we
are
careful
to
focus
the
discussion,
so
I
think
that's
an
important
consideration.
So
if,
if
you've
got,
if
you've
got
some
general
comments,
you
know
write
me
a
note
in
the
chat
function
or
or
kind
of
buzz
in.
I
do
think
we
should
probably
take
a
few
general
comments
here
at
the
top,
but
I
don't
want
to.
I
don't
want
to
have
an
unfocused
discussion
about
language.
C
I
think
we
should,
I
think,
would
be
a
waste
of
our
time
to
just
have
kind
of
a
general
english
language
review
session.
I
would
also
remind
everybody
that
you
know
we're
going
to
have
several
of
these
drafting
sessions.
C
I
think
it's
entirely
possible
and
I
think
even
likely
that
we'll
have
some
motions
to
edit
or
change
the
language
that
we
will
hold
over
for
subsequent
drafting
sessions,
and
I
think
that's
it's.
I
think
it's
we
might
have
to
go
back
and
check
with
people
to
see
about
certain
facts.
C
I
think
we
might
all
have
to
go
back
to
our
dictionaries
and
thesauruses.
There's
there's
no
urgency
to
decide
any
particular
motion
today,
and
I
think
I
anticipate
frankly
that
we're
going
to
have
an
agenda
for
the
next
drafting
session.
That
will
will
include
motions
that
are
made
today
that
we
have
not
yet
voted
on.
So.
C
J
C
I
don't
see
him
waiting
to
be
admitted
in
my
list
of
participants
he
might
have.
He
might
have
logged
onto
the
wrong
meeting.
That's
happened
to
me
before.
B
Perhaps
chair
clegg
we
can
connect
offline.
I
don't
know
the
phone
number
for
mr
melinda,
so
it's
difficult
for
me
to
look
on
the
phone
numbers
and
see
if
perhaps
he's
already
logged
in
but
oops.
I
see
that
he
just
he
just
showed
up
in
the
lobby
and
I've.
C
Mr
melinda
welcome
to
the
government
structure
work
group.
Thank
you
for
your
volunteer
efforts
and
we
appreciate
your
time
today.
C
Do
you
have
any
general
comments
about
the
draft
that
you
put
together
before
we
get
into
the
specific
language,
any.
K
Go
ahead,
I
hadn't
planned
on
saying
anything
I
mean
I,
you
know
I
can
make
a
speech
if
you
want,
but
since
I
didn't
have
much
time
to
prepare
it'll
be
a
long
speech.
That's.
C
Quite
all,
right,
as
I
was
saying,
I
think,
the
discussion,
any
discussions
we
have
about
the
draft
language
should
be
in
the
form
of
emotion
and
before
we
get
into
the
motions
we
should
have.
Maybe
a
little
discussion
generally
and
chair
clegg
has
raised
his
hand.
Sure.
J
H
Thank
you.
We
wouldn't
be
having
a
government
structural
review
committee
meeting
unless
there
was
a
a
sense
of
a
need
for
a
general
construction
review
of
the
responsibilities
of
the
charter.
Commission,
the
mayor
and
the
city
council.
H
In
my
opinion,
at
this
time,
such
a
change
is
is
really
not
needed.
I
don't
object
like
giving
the
voters
an
opportunity
to
render
a
judgment
on
that.
But
my
own
judgment
at
this
point
is
that
we've
managed
to
have
a
successful
city
under
the
guidance
of
mayors
like
hubert
humphrey
and
don
fraser
and
and
several
more
recent
mayors,
as
well
without
any
major
structural
changes,
and
I
don't.
I
H
These
suggestions,
but
for
my
own
part,
my
feeling
is
that
the
problems
the
city
has
so
far
as
governments
are
concerned
can
be
resolved
by
the
election
of
the
city
officers
rather
than
structural
changes,
and,
and
that
is
my
general
approach
to
what
is
taking
place
here
in
this
committee.
Thank
you.
C
J
J
C
C
Okay,
the
motion's
been
moved
and
seconded.
This
is,
of
course,
the
provision
which
we
have
informally
dubbed
the
prime
directive,
and
I
would
I
would
concur
with
chair
clegg.
I,
the
the
meetings
that
we've
had
with
current
electeds
and
and
some
of
the
other
stakeholders,
there's
been
very
little
support
for
this
and
I
do
think
it
necessarily
complicates.
I
think
what
is
a
very
simple
structural
change,
so
I
guess
this
would
count
as
a
speech
in
favor
of
the
motion.
C
Is
there
any
other
debate
on
the
motion
to
remove
the
prime
directive.
C
It's
it's
a
provision
that
says
that
the
city
council,
neither
the
city
council
nor
any
individual
council
may
may
usurp
invade
or
interfere
with
the
mayor's
direction
or
supervision
of
the
administration
of
the
government
and
there's
more
language
there,
but
it
also
makes
a
violation
of
the
section,
a
misdemeanor
upon
conviction
of
which
a
council
member
would
be
removed
from
office.
C
It's
a
it's
taken
directly.
This
language
is
taken
directly
from
the
duluth
city
charter
word
for
word.
C
It's
it's!
The
general
consensus
is
that
that
if
the
mayor
becomes
the
executive
of
the
the
chief
executive
officer
that
he
will
have
the
authority
to
discuss
these
matters
with
the
council
and
and
direct
his
staff
and
the
department
heads
appropriately
about
how
to
handle,
handle
council
inquiries
and
and
communications,
it's
it's
redundant
and
it's
potentially
a
little
inflammatory
commissioner
ginder
you've
got
your
hand
up.
F
F
C
Okay,
thank
you,
chair
clegg,
you've
got
your
hand
up.
J
I
would
just
thank
commissioner
ginder
and
I
look
forward
to
his
substitute
language.
I'm
certainly
not
opposed
to
to
careful
language
that
defines
the
roles
of
the
legislative
and
executive
branches.
I
just
don't
think
this
is
the
right
language.
I
C
E
Yes,
I
guess
I
concur
on
the
other
comments
that
were
made,
I
guess
in
response
to
commissioner
gender,
I
guess
I
would
like
to
see
his
proposed
language.
I
guess
I
would
just
note
that
I
would
specifically
like
just
not
have
a
provision
that
refers
to
something
as
a
misdemeanor
or
a
conviction
or
removal
from
office.
E
I
guess
I
have
some
doubts
as
to
whether
a
charter
can
even
do
that
it
makes
it
almost
sound
like
it's
criminal,
so
I
guess
I'd
like
to
see
that
language
removed,
but
I
think
maybe
having
some
thing
that
distinguishes
between
the
powers
is
a
good
idea.
F
J
G
E
C
J
Clegg,
I
don't
have
a
motion,
but
I
would
encourage
committee
members
and
commissioners
if
they
have
questions
about
particular
wording
or
think
that
there
should
be
an
extra
comma
or
should
not
be
an
extra
comma
or
something
should
be
moved.
Now
is
the
time
to
to
raise
it.
C
Okay,
let
me
make
a
motion,
and
this
may
be
a
motion
that
we
probably
have
to
put
off,
because
I'm
not
sure
I
can
submit
the
exact
text
today,
but
I
think
this
is
and
as
long
as
we
have
mr
melendez
here,
I'm
curious.
This
is
just
thoughts
about
the
comparative
language,
but
the
existing
proposal
in
section
7.1,
a
says,
chief
executive,
the
chief
executive
officer,
is
the
mayor
and
I
would
propose
that
we
delete
that
language
and
replace
it
with
the
following.
C
And
the
the
reason
I
have
done
this
is
it
parallels
the
grant
of
authority
to
the
council
in
section
4
4.1?
I
thought
that
we
should.
I
think
we
should
treat
the
co-equal
ranches
co-equally
in
the
language,
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
just
makes
it
clear
that
the
mayor
is
the
head
of
the
executive
side
as
opposed
to
the
I
mean
I
realize
it's
splitting
hairs,
but
I'm
a
lawyer,
and
this
is
a
charter
and
we
we
tend
to
split
hairs
here.
C
Maybe
I
could
ask
commissioner
or
a
former
commissioner
melendez
if
there
was
a
reason
that
he
phrased
the
original
proposal,
the
way
he
did
and
what
his,
what
his
reaction
might
be
to
changing.
C
B
Mr
chair,
I
think
he
may
have
been
booted
out
of
the
meeting.
I
don't
see
him
in
the
list
right
now.
B
We'll
also
share
with
you,
mr
chair,
that
I
posted
your
language
in
the
chat
for
reference
in
case
anybody
wants
to
see
the
language
thank.
C
You,
commissioner,
rubenstein,
you
have
your
hand
up.
M
K
K
Obviously,
this
language
didn't
make
it
in
to
the
final
draft,
but,
but
I
just
dug
it
out,
because
we
had
talked
about
doing
it
that
way
at
one
time
and
ended
up
changing
it
to
what
is
now
in
the
charter,
at
the
instance
of
former
council
member
gary
schiff,
who
didn't
like
the
notion
that
the
mayor
was
the
chief
executive
officer
as
far
as
your
proposal,
I
I
don't
have
any
strong
objection
to
it.
K
I
want
to
do
a
little
word-smithing
with
it
to
make
it
more
consistent
with
the
parallel
provision
in
the
in
the
article
about
the
council,
but
I
think.
C
C
All
right,
let's
try
it
again.
Let's
let
me
amend
my
motion
to
take
my
language
and
refer
it
to
mr
melendez
and
have
it
come
back
to
this
drafting
body
at
a
subsequent
meeting,
whether
that's
thursday
or
the
following
tuesday,
and
commissioner
metke,
you
had
your
hand
up
at
one
point.
I
C
Very
good,
thank
you.
Okay,
so
I
have
a
motion
to
refer
my
language
to
mr
melendez
for
some
wordsmithing
and
then
have
it
come
back
to
the
commission.
Is
there
a
second
second
by
miss
by
chair
clegg
seconded?
Is
there
any
further
discussion
on
the
motion.
C
F
E
J
C
The
motion
has
passed
and
we
will
refer
that
to
mr
melendez.
Commissioner.
Rubenstein
your
hand
was
up
now
that
we're
past
that
motion.
Thank.
M
You
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
had
a
question
about
section,
4.1
g
on
the
audit
and
it
looks
like
very
good
language
to
me.
I
don't
have
any
objection
to
the
language
at
all,
but
it's
I
don't
recall
it
being
anything
that
we've
discussed
before
and
I
just
wondered
how
it
got
into
this
draft.
M
J
I
was
just
going
to
say
we
had
discussed
moving
the
audit
function
over
to
the
council,
specifically
as
opposed
to
leaving
it
as
a
as
a
department
that
would
be
treated
as
all
other
departments.
In
most
legislative
council
systems.
The
council
retains
legislative
and
oversight
authority,
and
usually
that
means
responsibility
not
only
for
the
clerk
but
also
for
the
auditor,
and
I
think
this
specific
language
was
crafted
with
the
assistance
of
commissioner
ginder,
who
was
in
essence
cross-referencing
it
to
the
to
the
current
ordinance
on
that
auditor's
role.
C
Okay,
are
there
any
any
other,
I'm
hearing
myself
again?
Is
there
any
other
discussion
at
the
moment,
chair
clegg,
your
hand
is
still
up.
Oh,
it
just
went
down
so.
C
I
have
one
other
proposed
change
that
I
think
we
should
refer
to
mr
melendez.
I
would
like
to
the
language.
H
C
Can
we
yeah,
can
we
get,
and
I'm
also
having
some
odd
issues
with
my
my
team
software
here
so.
C
All
right,
what
I
was
going
to
suggest
is:
oh
there
we
go
much
better.
So,
commissioner,
co-chair
garcia,
you've
got
your
hand
up.
E
Yeah,
I
just
had
a
question
about
another
section
and
I
think
it's
4.4
a
3
d.
It
says
there's
an
absolute
majority
required
for
certain
actions
and
it
talks
about
adopting
an
ordinance,
a
appropriating
money
and
I
guess
a
bc
authorized
improvements
to
a
sidewalk
subject
to
a
special
assessment,
and
I
guess
I,
it
just
seems
kind
of
like
a
very
odd
thing
to
me.
Compared
to
the
ordinance
and
the
appropriating
money-
and
I
guess
I'm
wondering-
is
that
provision
really
necessary
in
the
charter.
C
Commissioner
clegg,
do
you
want
to
jerk
leg?
Do
you
want
to
take
a
shot
at.
J
Thank
you,
I
would
just
say
I
agree
completely.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
in
the
charter,
but
it
is-
and
I
think
our
goal
in
in
this
amendment
is
to
keep
it
simple.
Keep
it
limited
to
one
subject,
there's
probably
lots
of
other
changes.
We
could
make
that
make
sense,
but
this
I
would
submit
anyway
that
this
one
is
for
another
another
amendment
down
the
road.
C
I
am
having
some
interesting
issues
with
the
team
software.
It's
like
the
the
the
screen
has
taken
over
the
the
screen
is
taken
over
my
entire
monitor
and
I
cannot.
I
can
no
longer
see
the
the
group
or
who's
raised
their
hands
and
I
can't
even
seem
to
add.
I
need
to
add
something
to
the
chat
here
for
a
proposal
I
want
to
make,
but
I
can't
move
my
I
can't
scroll
down
to
get
to
the
text
box
to
paste
in
my
text.
C
So
this
is
really.
This
is
really
quite
a
new
thing.
What
I
would
suggest,
frankly,
is
that
I
log
out
and
log
back
in,
can
I
ask
co-chair
garcia
to
take
over
for
a
few
minutes
while
I
get
out
and
get
back
in,
would
that
be
acceptable.
C
L
Okay,
I
will
now,
as
sharing
I
will
put
myself
at
the
end
of
the
speaking
queue.
So,
commissioner
smith,
you
had
your
opportunity
to
to
ask
your
question
or
make
your
comments.
L
Okay,
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we're
leaving
off
in
the
right
place.
Commissioner,
gender.
F
Excuse
me,
commissioner,
clegg
chair
clegg
basically
took
my
response
forward
when
his
response
to
mr
smith.
H
L
Why
well,
then,
putting
myself
back
in
the
queue
so
to
speak?
L
Regarding
the
question
or
the
the
paragraph
under
4.1
that
commissioner
rubenstein
had
just
brought
up,
I
have
some
suggested
language,
but
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
suggest
that
we
put
in
there
a
description
of
the
function
of
the
city
auditor
and
make
that
section
instead
of
just
audit,
make
it
city
auditor
and
then
have
the
function
of
the
city
auditor
be
more
broad
than
what
is
currently
in
paragraph
g,
but
ensure
that
what
is
encompassed
in
paragraph
g
is
definitely
taken
into
account
into
the
more
broad
description.
L
And
I
can
get
that
language.
I
can
put
it
in
the
chat
now,
but
I
can
also.
C
Yes,
I'm
back
I'll,
I'm
still
having
these
screen
difficulties,
but
I
think
I
can
function
now.
I
I
I
think
ms
bashun
had
her
hand
up.
N
Yes,
thank
you.
I
just
had
a
couple
comments
that
I
wanted
you
to
consider.
I,
and
maybe
commissioner
ginder,
could
speak
to
some
of
these
things.
It
does
state
for
the
auditor
that
the
auditor
has
jurisdiction
over
the
city
council
and
over
each
board,
commission
committee
department,
office
or
another
agent
agency
or
agent
in
the
audit
ordinances.
It
talks
talks
more
so
about
the
city
department's
boards
and
commissions.
I'm
not
sure
I
was
just
looking
at
it
now.
I
didn't
realize
it
was
from
the
ordinances.
N
I
didn't
see
that
language
I
saw
the
same
language
with
the
civil
rights
commission,
where
the
civil
rights
commission
has
the
authority
to
work
with
those
departments,
committees,
officers,
agencies
and
agents,
but
it's
not
clear
that
this
is
only
the
city
boards
and
commissions,
so
that
would
be.
That
would
be
one
thing
that
I
would
comment
on.
I
mean:
does
it
include
the
charter
commission?
N
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up,
and
I
had
one
other
issue.
N
The
the
ordinance
also
says
that
the
auditor
does
serve
at
the
committee's
pleasure,
but
then
it
does
say
that
they
need
a
majority
vote
to
remove
the
auditor,
and
that
is
missing
in
here,
and
maybe
that
was
because
it's
too
detailed.
So
those
are
the
two
issues
I
had.
F
I
can
respond
or
give
some
information
for
miss
bashoon,
mr
chair,
if
that's
all
right,
that'll.
F
I
think
the
point
that
you
brought
up
ms
michonne
about
the
extra
city
agencies
is
something
to
look
at.
This
is
a
kind
of
a
joint
draft
proposal
with
commissioner
clegg,
as
well
as
the
former
commissioner
melanes,
and
might
decide
to
take
a
look
at
again.
I
mean
it's
slightly
broader
than
what
is
in
the
ordinance.
F
What
I
was
attempting
to
do
is
kind
of
track
the
ordinance
and
maintain
the
independence
of
the
committee
and
the
function,
even
though
it's
directly
underneath
the
city
council's
control
and
what
we're
trying
to
clarify
is
though,
as
long
as
the
city
house,
city,
council
control,
it
retains
some
independence
and
it
can
investigate
city
council
expenditures,
as
well
as
any
other
expenditures
from
any
city
department
or
agency,
and
may
have
gotten
a
little
overbroad
in
that.
But
I'll
take
a
look
at
that
and
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
Okay,.
N
And
the
open,
the
the
removal
of
the
auditor,
the
ordinance
says
that
there
should
be
a
majority
vote.
Do
you
think
that's
not
needed.
F
I
C
Go
ahead,
commissioner:
co-chair
garcia,
you
had
your
hand
up.
Oh.
L
Commissioner
abbott,
I
was
just
going
to
say
that,
as
you
were
getting
re-acclimated
with
teams,
I
made
a
suggestion
about
replacing
paragraph
g,
which
is
audit
with
a
paragraph
entitled
city
auditor,
with
some
more
description
of
the
role
of
a
city
and
with
the
intent
to
represent
the
the
spirit
and
capture
the
role
that
is
provided
for
in
the
committee.
In
the
current
draft
under
audit,
and
I
put
suggested
language
in
the
chat.
B
Thank
you,
mr
co-chair,
and
it
was
probably
no
surprise
to
members.
I
spoke
with
the
existing
auditor,
who
is
on
staff
today,
ryan,
patrick,
a
real
human
being,
who
holds
that
job
and
showed
him
this
draft
proposal.
For
the
first
time
he
had
lots
of
feedback
and
lots
of
comments
about
what
would
be
required
to
maintain
independence
in,
according
with
established
industry
standards
and
requirements
and
other
inputs
that,
I
think,
would
be
helpful
to
this
body
in
terms
of
this
specific
provision.
B
So
it
might
be
good
to
put
all
of
these
proposals
around
audit
together
and
hear
from
the
auditor
his
input
and
have
that
come
back
in
a
more
holistic
fashion,
which
benefits
from
the
auditor's
analysis
and
recommendations
as
well.
I
know
he
is
eager
to
provide
that
to
the
body.
E
J
Thank
you.
I
was
just
going
to
move
that
that
we
then
table
that
pending
the
input
to
be
received
from
commissioner
ginder
from
former
commissioner
melendez
and
from
the
city
auditor.
L
C
C
J
C
C
The
motion
has
passed
and
that's
been
tabled
pending
a
review
for
the
motion
I
would
revisit.
I
have
a
proposal
on
4.1
h
that
I
put
into
the
chat
that
I
can.
Finally,
I'm
still
having
issues
with
teams
by
the
way
it's
it's.
It's
expanded
to
my
entire
screen
and
I
can't
I
can't
see
whose
hand
has
been
raised,
except
occasionally.
So,
if
somebody
needs
to
butt
in,
let
me
know,
but
it's
interesting
technology
can't
live
with.
It,
can't
live
without
it,
but
anyway
the
existing
proposal
has.
C
I
believe,
it's
let's
see
here.
C
4.1
h
is
a
paragraph
labeled
resources,
and
I
propose
to
delete
the
text
of
that
and
replace
it
with
the
text
that
I've
included
in
the
chat
and
the
chat
language
I'll.
Just
read
it
out
loud
for
those
of
you
who
don't
have
teams
chat
available.
My
proposed
substitute
language
is
council
staff
and
resources
period.
The
council
may
provide
for
staff
and
other
resources
in
an
amount
it
deems
appropriate
to
support
its
collective
legislative
and
policy.
C
Making
functions
semicolon,
provided
that
any
staff
or
resources
provided
shall
be
hired
on
a
non-partisan
basis
as
part
of
the
classified
service
semicolon,
and
that
any
such
staff
or
resources
shall
support
the
council
as
a
whole
and
cannot
be
assigned
or
designated
for
the
use
of
any
individual
council
member
period,
and
I
think
the
motion
would
be
to
refer
this
to
mr
melendez
for
his
wordsmithing
to
see.
Perhaps
if
we
could
get
it
in
a
better
format
before
we
bring
it
back
for
a
vote
at
the
drafting
committee.
C
Is
there
a
second
for
that
motion?
Second
clay,
it's
been
moved
and
seconded.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
the
motion.
E
This
is
commissioner
smith.
I
have
a
question.
You
say
that
city
staff
cannot
be
assigned
or
designated
for
the
use
of
an
individual
council
member.
So
right
now
my
understanding
is
that
council
members
do
they
each
have
two
people
that
are
on
their
staff,
so
they
wouldn't
have
an
individual
person
on
their
staff.
They
would
work
for
all
council
members
or
I
guess
I'm
not
sure
how
or
what
your
proposal
means
exactly.
C
Well,
my
understanding
is
that
the
the
individual
council
staff
is
provided
through
a
different
mechanism
that
some
involves
state
statutes
and
this
this
provision
wouldn't
affect
that
at
all.
This
would
be
a
separate.
This
would
not
replace
that
provision
or
interfere
with
it.
This
would
just
be
a
separate
mechanism
for
them
to
to
staff
themselves
for
their
function.
Chair
clegg,
you
had
your
hand
up.
J
I
was
going
to
agree
with
you,
chair
abbott.
I
think
we
may
want
to
make
it
clear
that
this
applies
to
supplemental
policymaking
staff,
not
the
two
aides
that
each
ward
council
member
already
has.
I
think
that
everyone
thought
that
the
previous
language
was
vague
and
could
be
interpreted
to
mean
that
every
council
member
could
add
additional
staff
just
reporting
to
them,
and
that
was
not
our
intent.
So
I
think
this
goes
a
ways
to
clearing
that
up
and
support
the
referral.
C
Hearing,
oh
commissioner,
ginder
your
hands
up
go
ahead.
F
F
So
one
can
argue
that
this
might
not
be
necessary
at
all
because
they
do
have
this
ability
to
hire
additional
staff
through
the
budget
process
if
they
so
desire.
So
it's
it's
something
I'm
still
a
little
bit
undecided
on,
but
it's
a
point.
I
think
we
need
to
remember.
F
C
Very
good,
I
think,
that's
something
we
can
revisit
when
this
comes
back
from
the
wordsmithing
process.
Anything
any
other
discussion,
co-chair
garcia.
Your
hand
is
up.
L
Yes,
thank
you,
commissioner
abbott.
It's
part
of
the
word
smithing
process.
L
L
I
would
also
like
to
propose
that
we
think
about
saying
that
the
clerk's
office
would
furnish
such
supplemental
staff.
L
The
city
clerk
right
now,
as
I
understand,
is
the
supports
the
city
council
period,
but
also
supports
the
city
council
in
it's
like
current
legislative
function,
and
perhaps
some
of
this
supplemental,
collective
legislative
and
policy
making
function
can
come
forward
from
the
city
clerk
from
the
city
clerk's
office,
over
which
the
city
council
has
oversight.
C
Okay,
I
think
somebody
else
had
their
hand
up,
and
I
can't
tell
based
on
the
way
my
screen
is
displayed.
Does
somebody
else
have
their
hand
up.
C
C
Seeing
no
further
discussion
I'll
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role
on
the.
F
E
J
C
C
And
the
motion
is
passed.
That's
that's
everything
on
my
list.
Does
anybody
else
have
any
proposed
language
or
anything
else?
We
need
to
talk
about
or
potentially
refer
to,
our
drafter.
C
About
all
right
hearing,
no
further
discussion,
I
think
we
have
completed
the
for
this
meeting.
They've
completed
our
discussion
about
government
structure,
amendment
language
and
having
completed
the
agenda,
I
believe
we've
completed
the
meeting
and
without
objection.
I
think
we
should
adjourn
at
this
point.
C
And
thanks
to
everybody,
putting
up
with
my
really
utterly
bizarre
software
problem
here
I
cannot.
I
cannot
minimize
this.
I
can
minimize
the
screen,
but
I
can't
I
can't
scroll
inside
of
the
screen.
I
can't
change
the
display.
It's
like
I'm
going
to
have
to
completely
reboot.
I
think
I'm
going
to
reboot
the
whole
computer
and
start
over
for
for
thursday
and
see
what
happens
so.
I
have
no
idea,
what's
going
on,
say.
A
Commissioner
abbott
this
is
ted.
Can
you
send
me
an
email
that
has
some
of
the
what
you're
seeing
today
and
experiencing
so
then
we
can.
I
can
bring
it
up
at
our
tech
meeting.
C
All
right
any
post,
meeting
discussion
at
all
that
we
need
to
have-
I
don't
think
so.
I
guess
we'll
see
you
we're
set
to
go
on
thursday
again.
Is
that
correct,
correct?
Our
next
session
is.