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B
All
right,
everyone
remember
to
mute
yourself,
we're
hearing
someone,
so
that
might
you
might
not
want
that
to
be
you
so
just
remember
to
meet
yourself
when
you're,
not
speaking,
all
right,
so
we're
we've
moved
on
from
our
business
first
business
items
so
joey
will
now
take
on
the
public
comment
period.
Joey
I'll
pass
it
to
you.
C
All
right
so
as
a
reminder
at
each
of
our
meetings.
We
have
set
aside
time
for
public
comment
for
members
who
are
attending
by
phone
to
this
meeting.
We
ask
that
members
or
that
folks
here,
to
make
a
public
comment,
keep
their
comments
to
a
minute
and
comment
on
items
that
are
on
our
agenda
if
possible
or.
D
C
C
A
Yeah,
my
name
is
andrew
falstrom.
I
I
just
had
the
horrors
of
yeah.
I
just
had
the
horror
of
hearing
one
of
your
own
members,
cecil
smith,
along
with
other
landlords,
testified
to
ending
the
eviction
moratorium
and
creating
off-ramps
from
it
the
victim
moratorium
that
has
protected
so
many
people
during
a
global
pandemic,
and
I.
E
A
I
I
trust
this
committee
to
know
that
that's
the
absolute
wrong
direction
we
spent
a
summer
with
encampments
all
over
the
city.
Homelessness
is
an
increasing
problem
and
we
need
you
all
to
stand
up
for
renter
protection
in
the
city,
and
I
really
look
forward
to
this
committee.
Supporting
the
path
for
rent
stabilization
in
minneapolis
that'll
be
moving
forward
for
just
cause,
defense
against
evictions
and
everything
else
that
we
need
to
protect
our
people
here
in
minneapolis.
Thank
you.
C
Great,
thank
you
andrew
for
your
public
comment.
Is
there
anyone
else
who
is
here
by
phone
who
would
like
to
make
a
public
comment,
and
if
so,
you
can
mute
yourself
at
this
time
by
pressing
star
six,
I.
B
C
C
All
right
hearing,
then
I
will
close
our
public
comment
period
for
today's
meeting.
So
just
a
quick
reminder
overview
for
today's
meeting.
We
amended
head
to
men
since
the
clerk
casey
carl
was
not
able
to
be
with
us
to
do
an
overview
of
the
legislative
process,
we'll
work
on
getting
that
on
a
future
agenda,
and
I
think
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
election
of
2021
committee
leadership.
C
So
I
think
at
this
time
it
would
be
great
if
anybody
wants
to
nominate
yourself
for
a
leadership
position
or
nominate
someone
else.
That
would
be
helpful,
as
I
think
we
discussed
at
our
last
meeting.
We
don't
have
strict
rules
as
far
as
how
many
people
are.
You
know
we
don't
have
a
strict
structure
as
far
as
having
a
chair
and
a
vice
chair
or
co-chairs.
C
So
the
hope
would
be
that
today
we
would
hear
who
is
interested
in
being
part
of
the
leadership
team
and
then
make
a
decision
on
how
to
proceed
with
a
vote
depending
on
interest
and
nominations.
So
at
this
time,
we'll
kind
of
just
do
this
together
here,
but
if
anybody
would
like
to
express
interest
for
a
leadership
role
in
the
committee
or
nominate
someone
else,
this
would
be
the
time.
F
F
F
C
Thanks
karina,
I
don't
know
if
it
makes
sense
at
this
time
for
us
to
go
through
folks
if
people
are
nominating
someone
other
than
themselves
whether
they
are
accepting
that
nomination
at
this
time
or
we
can
just
see
what
other
nominations
are
on
the.
G
H
Go
ahead,
listen,
I'm
gonna,
say
this
melissa
newman.
I
appreciate
the
nomination,
but
I
would
have
to
decline
at
this
time.
H
G
Yeah,
so
this
is
scott.
I've
been
serving
as
a
secretary
for
the
last
gosh.
Has
it
been
two
years
and
yeah
and
I've
had
a
great
time
and
it's
been
really
rewarding
and
yeah
serving
with
joey
and
colleen
and
brenda
on
the
leadership
team,
but
we
are
expecting
another
baby
in
june
and
also
so
for
my
own
sanity
and
also
for,
I
think
in
the
interest
of
the
group,
to
make
space
for
other
people
to
have
time
on
the
leadership
team.
I
C
Well,
thanks
everyone,
and
thanks
karina
for
the
nomination
this
time,
I
will
accept
the
nomination
and
also
just
want
to
express
my
heartfelt
congratulations
to
scott
for
his
news.
That's
extremely
exciting
and
it's
been
so
helpful
having
your
role
in
the.
F
K
This
is
jeff,
I'd,
be
glad
to
nominate
colleen
to
continue
if
she
is
interested.
I
think
that
the
two
of
you
have
done
a
very
strong
job
of
leading
this
group
and
it's
in
its
initial
years,
and
definitely
want
to
acknowledge
that
I
think
it's
been
a
good
team,
but
also
understand
if
somebody
wants
to
take
a
break,
but.
B
C
Up
this
is
just
a
question
I'm
wondering
if
the
way
it
has
been
working,
as
you
know,
is
we've
had
co-chairs
and
a
secretary
role
since
scott
is,
as
you
said,
not
taking
on
that
role
moving
forward.
If
we
think
that
has
been,
you
know,
that's
a
role
we
want.
Maybe
is
there
anyone
who
would
consider
being
part
of
the
secretary
and
scott?
C
You
can
maybe
answer
any
questions
about
the
role,
but
taking
notes
being
part
of
planning
meetings
and
setting
agendas,
and
things
like
that
has
kind
of
how
it's
been
generally
again
time.
Commitment
wise.
We
have
generally
met
once
sometimes
twice
in
between
our
meetings
to
set
the
agenda.
C
L
This
is
colleen
o'connor
tobin.
I
have
a
question,
is
I
don't
know
brenda's
inner
meeting
today
and
it's
hard
for
me
to
tell,
but
I
think
brenda's
also
been
a
constructive
member
of
the
leadership
team
and,
if
she's
interested,
you
know
I'd
like
to
leave
that
space
open
as
well.
To
make
sure
we
don't
overlook
her
if
she's
gone
today,.
C
Yeah
thanks
for
that
colleen
I
have
not
heard
from
her
today.
I'm
wondering
you
know,
as
a
our
bylaws
aren't
particularly
strict
about
our
process
for
electing,
but
we
knew
we
needed
to
on
at
least
an
annual
basis.
So,
if
brenda's
able
to
join
at
our
next
month's
meeting,
I
would
propose
you
know.
C
One
of
us
could
reach
out
to
her
in
the
meantime
and
potentially
at
our
next
month's
meeting,
you
know
move
take
a
vote
on
kind
of
adding
her
into
whatever
state
of
leadership
is
elected
today,
unless
anyone
you
know,
city
staff
or
otherwise
thinks
that
there
would
be
a
problem
with
that.
I
don't
think
that
there's
anything
in
our
bylaws
that
would
preclude
doing
something
like
that.
J
No,
I
agree,
I
think
it's
it
be
fine.
If
we
we're
very,
I
think
it's
lovely
that
it's
an
informal
leadership
and
that
you
know
it
allows
people
who
you
know
maybe
want
to
just
be
a
shadow
in
a
leadership
role
in
case
they
want
to
step
it
into
the
future.
So
again,
I
would
encourage
people
if
you're
thinking
about
I'm
not
ready
to
take
the
reins,
but
I
really
got
some
time
and
interest
in
being
part
of
the
leadership
team.
This
is
a
great
time
to
do
that
as
well.
E
M
L
C
Well,
we'll
reach
out
to
brenda
and
see
if
she's,
interested
and
available
to
you
know
interested
and
wants
to
participate
in
the
leadership
committee
between
now
and
next
month's
meeting
since
she's,
not
here
today
but
queen,
would
you
want
us
to
do
you
want
to
be
considered
today
to
be
part
of
the
leadership
team.
M
Okay,
give
me
give
me
some
back.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
moving
from
court
to
zoom
so
give
me
some
give
me
a
little
bit
of
background
on
what
which
leadership
give
me
a
little
bit
of
contents
of
what
it
is.
C
C
E
C
Thing
would
be
participating
in
meetings
with
the
leadership
team
and
city
staff
in
between
our
committee
meetings
once
or
twice
a
month
to
plan
the
agenda
discuss
any
kind
of
committee
business
that
needs
to
happen
between
meetings
and
then,
as
far
as
what
role,
I
think,
the
it's
open,
whether
you,
what
kind
of
role
you
would
want
to
play
if
you'd
want
to
be
a
co-chair
and
help
facilitate
meetings.
C
If
you
would
want
to
be
a
secretary
to
take
notes
and
that
kind
of
thing
or
another
role
of
that
you
know
it's
not
really
defined,
you
could
name.
You
could
name
the
role
that
you
would
nominate
yourself
for.
G
And
and
just
to
be
clear
for
the
secretary
role,
I
have
not
been
taking
minutes,
it's
been
the
city
staff
taking
minutes,
and
so
I
you
know,
help
review
them,
but
you
wouldn't
be
on
the
hook
for
actually
taking
minutes.
C
I
will
say,
as
far
as
how
chairs
have
worked
it
has
been,
I
think
it
has
worked
well
to
have
co-chairs
so
that
I
don't
know
that
it
really
makes
sense
to
have
a
chair
and
a
vice
chair.
But
if,
if
folks
have
differing
opinions
about
that,
that's
fine,
it's
been
nice.
C
You
know
if,
if
one
of
us
has
needed
to
miss
a
meeting
or
something
that
the
other
is
fully
prepped
and
ready
to
step
in
and
facilitate,
I
would
maybe
put
forward
that
it
would
suggest
that
it
remained
that
way,
co-chairs
with
a
secretary
and
then
brenda
pending
her
interest,
and
we
can
consider
that
at
our
next
month's
meeting.
K
C
To
I
know,
katie
is
not
on,
but
do
any
of
the
other
city
staff
have
any
other
thoughts
or
comments
before
we
move
forward.
J
No,
I
think
it
makes
sense
and
I
would
recommend
moving
a
slate
too.
I
mean
I
know
that
or
we
could
go
through
one
at
a
time,
but
I
think
that
the
structure
as
it
is
has
worked.
Well,
so
that's
my
city
staff
opinion.
N
My
city
staff
opinion:
this
is
lisa
smestad.
The
structure
has
been
working
very
well.
C
K
All
right,
this
is
jeff
horowitz
I'll
move,
approval
of
colleen
and
joey,
as
co-chairs
and
queen
as
secretary
for
the
coming
term
of
this
committee.
J
I
will
corinner
bowler
hi,
bruce
brenner
hi
joey,
yes,
colleen
ebiger,
hi,
jeff,
horowitz.
K
J
E
J
Okay,
thank
you
charlotte
kingsley,
yes,
liliana,
latran,
garcia,
liliana,
latran,
garcia,
brenda
marcos,
brenda
marcos,
david.
G
O
J
I
believe
the
motion
still
passes,
but
I
think
it's
16..
I
don't
know
if
annie's
still
on
the
call
I'll
I'll
count
so,
but
the
motion
passes.
C
All
right
thanks
kelly
and
thanks
everyone.
It's
always,
you
know
a
little
bit
awkward,
it's
a
little
bit
of
an
awkward
position
to
be
facilitating
a
vote
for
your
own
continued
leadership,
but
it
really
has
been
great
working
with
colleen
and
city
staff
and
scott,
and
it's
been
great
getting
a
chance
to
work
with
you
all
on
all
these
important
policies,
we're
considering
so
thanks
and
I'm
excited
for
another
year.
I
don't
know
if
colleen
or
queen,
you
have
anything
more
to
add
before
we
move
on.
M
B
And
with
that,
I
think
we
are
turning
to
lisa
right
so
lisa
your
your
good
practice
on
screen
sharing,
I
think,
is
going
to
pay
off
right
about
now.
N
All
right,
hi,
I'm
lisa
smithson,
I'm
the
manager
of
the
lead,
hazard,
control
and
healthy
homes
unit,
and
today
we
are
here
to
present
to
you
some
information
about
the
work
we're
doing
in
minneapolis
housing.
The
title
of
our
presentation
is
home,
based
health
hazards
in
minneapolis
housing,
and
I
have
with
me
today
alex
vollmer,
who
is
the
supervisor
of
our
unit
and
fardozza
omar?
Who
is
who
is
our
grant
hud
grant
manager
so
alex?
Would
you
take
it
away.
P
Sure,
thanks
lisa
and
thanks
to
everybody
on
the
committee,
I'm
gonna
put
my
camera
on
thanks
everybody
on
the
committee
for
having
us
it's
a
it's
a
privilege
to
be
able
to
come
and
speak
with
you
all.
In
addition
to
just
serving
this,
the
the
residents
of
minneapolis,
so
you
may
have
my
name-
is
alex
vollmer,
I'm
the
supervisor
of
the
lead
and
healthy
homes
unit.
P
You
know
our
primary
function
is
to
investigate
cases
of
blood
poisoned
children
within
minneapolis,
but
we
are
trying
to
move
to
a
much
more
holistic
approach
in
addressing
a
lot
of
home-based
health
hazards.
So
that's
kind
of
what
we
wanted
to
talk
with
you
about
today.
P
So
just
looking
through
here,
you
know,
minneapolis
has
housing
stock
that
has
potential
for
a
variety
of
structural
and
building
problems
that
can
lead
to
negative
health
outcomes.
The
lenin
healthy
homes
unit,
like
I
said,
response
an
assortment
of
building
related
issues
with
the
most
common
being
lead-based
paints.
A
majority
of
the
lead
poisonings
that
we
see
are
due
to
deteriorated
lead-based
paint
at
the
child's
primary
residence.
P
We
do
have
a
small
number
of
other
sources
included
in
in
that
investigation,
such
as
elevated
levels
of
lead
in
soil,
either
from
paint
coming
off
of
a
house
or
historical
use
of
leaded
gasoline,
as
well
as
consumer
products.
Cookware
toys,
keys,
jewelry,
all
sorts
of
all
sorts
of
products
unfortunately
have
lead
in
them
and
kids
like
to
put
those
things
in
their
mouths.
P
We
have
been
fortunate.
We've
done
a
lot
of
investigation
on
on
water
in
minneapolis
and
we've
done
a
lot
of
testing
and
we
have
not
found
elevated
levels
of
lead
in
water,
assuming
that
the
the
system
is
working
normally,
so
we
have
not
traced
any
elevated
levels
to
the
water
source
in
minneapolis.
That's
that's
great.
From
our
point
of
view,
we
also
look
at
asthma
triggers
in
houses
which
includes
mold
from
water
intrusion
inside
the
home,
maybe
roof
leaks
or
holes
in
the
wall
or
potentially
from
excessive
standing.
E
P
Inside
of
houses
generally
from
like
plumbing
leaks,
that
are
contained
inside
of
the
walls
that
are
tough
to
see
and
and
cause
chronic
issues,
we
also
look
at
pests
and
pets,
including
cockroach
frass
and
dust
mites,
as
well
as
consumer
products
such
as
aerosol
cleaners,
air
fresheners
or
cigarette
smoke
from
indoor
smoking.
P
The
presence
of
these
hazards
conditions
can
be
due
to
due
to
deferred
or
lack
of
maintenance
or
behavioral
traits,
so
just
kind
of
like
a
little
overview
about
how
we
respond.
So
first,
like
I
said,
our
primary
kind
of
duty
is
to
respond
to
reports
of
lead
poisoning
in
children
ages,
five
and
under,
as
well
as
pregnant
women
that
live
in
minneapolis.
P
We
receive
authorization
from
the
state
health
department
to
receive
that
information
and
work
with
clinics
to
provide
that
follow-up.
We
also
have
a
complaint
based
response
at
rental
properties
or
owner
occupied
houses
as
well,
but
we
do
pri.
P
We
do
tend
to
go
out
into
rental
properties
where
people
are
concerned
about
health
hazards
or
lead-based
paints,
and
shipping
paint
inside
of
their
houses,
we're
fortunate
to
have
resources
from
housing
and
urban
development,
which
is
a
federal
agency
that
stands
for
hud
on
the
screen.
There
we've
been
very
successful
in
getting
these
these
grant
programs.
P
Over
the
last
25
years,
we
just
launched
a
new
program
in
january
of
2021,
which
will
last
for
approximately
three
and
a
half
years
where
we
have
5.7
million
dollars
to
reduce
lead-based
paint
hazards,
and
then
I
said,
we're
also
focusing
on
additional
health
and
safety
hazards
inside
of
the
house
and
we're
starting
to
build
out
a
weatherization
program
to
kind
of
reduce
the
total
cost
burden
on
living
in
older
houses.
P
In
minneapolis,
we
have
a
settlement
fund
from
the
northern
metals
company
up
in
north
minneapolis,
which
includes
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
do
lead.
Testing
for
children
lead
hazard,
education
at
homes,
asthma,
education
and
some
asthma
trigger
mitigation.
We
do
this
through
face-to-face
interviews,
as
well
as
reviewing
the
house
for
potential
hazards
and
we
can
provide
products
that
can
reduce
the
the
hazard
risk
and
then
also
recently,
we
just
got
another
environmental
justice
grant
in
from
the
environmental
protection
agency.
P
Another
federal
agency
in
the
amount
of
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
do
lead
hazard,
education,
asthma,
education
and
covert
response,
so
we're
piecemealing
our
work
together
from
a
number
of
different
ways
and
really
trying
to
expand
the
services
that
we
can
provide.
P
So
I
wanted
to
show
a
map
of
minneapolis
and
kind
of
discuss.
Some
of
the
socioeconomic
items
that
we
run
into
there
are
risk
factors
associated
with
both
lead
exposure
and
asthma
triggers,
and
what
we're
really
trying
to
show
here
is
just
that.
A
lot
of
those
risk
factors
are
concentrated
in
certain
areas
of
the
city
and,
unfortunately,
a
lot
of
those
areas
are
overlapping
with
low
income
and
the
bipoc
communities.
P
So
you
can
see
here
the
or
the
the
yellow
neighborhoods
in
minneapolis
are
identified
as
higher
in
asthma
risk.
P
The
orange
areas
are
higher
with
lead,
poisoning
risk
and
then
the
red
areas
have
both
types
of
risk
associated
with
it,
and
the
the
darker
black
outlines
are
the
areas
of
the
city
that
have
concentrated
amounts
and
elevated
amounts
of
people
living
under
the
poverty
line,
as
well
as
where
a
majority
of
their
residents
are
from
the
bipod
community,
so
next
slide
lisa,
so
just
kind
of
continuing
on
I
mean
we
know
that
we
know
that
lead
poisoning
is
an
environmental
justice
issue.
So
just
here's
a
quick
history.
P
I
know
it's,
hopefully
you
guys
can
zoom
in
a
little
bit
on
this.
This
is
a
very
detailed
map
of
the
25
years
or
previous
25
years
up
to
2014
of.
P
Lead
poisoning
cases
in
minneapolis
each
one
of
those
little
squares
represents
a
single
block
in
minneapolis
and
any
square.
That's
colored,
not
not
white
has
at
least
one
child
that
had
had
a
diagnosed
blood
thy
level
over
five
micrograms
per
deciliter,
which
is
the
current
level
that
we
respond
to
the
darker
the
colors
get.
So
the
darker
reds
and
oranges
indicate
more
children
and
the
squares
that
have
blue
and
green
have
the
highest
number
of
children
on
each
of
those
blocks
that
have
been
diagnosed
with
an
elevated
blood
lead
level.
So.
E
P
Can
see
those
darker
colored
areas
definitely
are
concentrated
in
certain
areas
of
the
city,
there's
five
like
kind
of
primary
neighborhoods,
that
we
do
a
lot
of
work
in
and
those
would
be
both
phillips,
neighborhoods,
powderhorn,
central
hawthorne
and
jordan.
P
So
a
vast
majority
are
living
our
bipod
community
and
about
three
quarters
of
our
cases
are
occurring
in
rental
properties,
as
I
stated
earlier,
deferred
or
lack
of
maintenance
is
often
the
cause
for
lead
exposure
due
to
lead
paint
coming
off
of
those
building
components
that
have
not
received
the
type
of
regular
upkeep
that
is
required
to
make
keep
them
safe
and
keep
them
like
of
sound
structure.
P
Additionally,
we
have
over
75
percent,
are
reported
as
being
under
50
percent
of
area
median
income.
That
would
be
an
annual
household
income
so
for
a
family
of
four.
Just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
that
is,
a
family
of
four
in
21
000.
That
level
is
51,
000
and
even
still
lower,
is
over.
Half
of
our
clients
are
reporting
underneath
being
underneath
30
percent
of
annual
median
income
and
in
2020
that
was
listed
as
31
000
for
a
family
of
four.
P
So
it's
oftentimes
people
who
are
kind
of
have
their
backs
against
the
wall
and
are
subjected
to
a
lot
of
kind
of
having
to
deal
with
whatever
people
are
throwing
at
them,
and
they
don't
have
a
lot
of
options
and
a
lot
of
opportunity.
Unfortunately,
so
next
slide
lisa,
just
a
couple
of
quick
highlights
on
kind
of
what
lead
exposure
can
do
to
a
child.
P
Children
who
are
under
the
age
of
six
will,
if
they
ingest
lead,
they
will
absorb
into
their
blood
roughly
50
to
60
percent
of
that
lead
that
they
ingest
that's
a
really
small
amount
that
can
affect
their
body
as
they're
growing.
They
have
a
lot
of
development,
that's
going
on
and
it
primarily
affects
the
nervous
system,
the
brain,
the
blood,
the
kidneys
and
and
the
body.
P
So
there's
a
number
of
kind
of
can
go
all
over
the
place
it
some
of
the
blood
or
some
of
the
lead
will
get
expelled,
but
a
lot
of
it.
It
is
considered
a
cumulative
toxin,
so
it
is
inside
your
blood
for
a
little
while
it
goes
through
the
body
and
it
ends
up
being
deposited
inside
of
your
bone
marrow,
which
can
add
to
a
decrease
in
bone
and
muscle
growth.
So
it
does
live
inside
of
you.
P
P
P
We
do
see
that
there
is
a
connection
between
lead
exposure
and
what
I
guess
kind
of
what
the
terminology
is
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
poor
decision
making,
which
includes
just
difficulty
in
managing
emotions
and
and
and
reacting
to
situations.
P
P
The
average
blood
level
across
the
population
was
much
higher
than
it
is
right
now
and
that's
what
the
blue
line
or
it's
it's
it's
in
connection
with
that
blue
line
and
as
you
can
see
as
these
numbers
they
just
kind
of
they
ebb
and
flow
alongside
of
each
other.
You
know.
So
there
is
there's
the
individual
who's
affected
by
this,
but
then
it
can
also
really
spiral
onto
a
population,
a
population
level
kind
of
issue
next
slide
lisa.
P
The
good
news
is
is
that
in
minneapolis,
we've
seen
a
dramatic
and
consistent
decrease
in
the
total
number
of
children
with
elevated
blood
levels,
blood
lead
levels
over
the
25
years
of
the
program's
existence.
P
This
is
actually
looking
at
at
the
level
of
10
micrograms
per
deciliter,
like
I
said,
we're
actually
intervening
down
to
five
micrograms,
so
we're
seeing
these
levels
decrease
while
we're
also
intervening
at
a
lower
level.
You
know
what
we
want
to
see
is
people
ask
us
a
lot
of
times
like
well,
we
used
to
have
you
know
the
level
of
concern
was
50
micrograms
or
40
micrograms.
You
know
so
significantly
higher
than
it
is
right
now
and
basically,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
that
we
don't
want
to
see
those
levels
like
that's.
P
The
whole
idea
of
our
program
is
that
we
prevent
these
kids
from
from
experiencing
those
types
of
setbacks
and
those
types
of
health.
Those
types
of
health
problems
like
that's,
that's
not
something
it's
a
totally
preventable
disease
and
we
don't
want
to
respond
after
it's
been
too
late.
So
we
want
to
get
to
those
kids
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
we've
been
fortunate
that
we've
had
such
a
dramatic
decrease.
P
This.
This
graph
only
goes
up
to
2017,
but
in
just
just
to
kind
of
give
a
perspective
we've
had
we
had
less
than
70
kids
at
at
the
five
microgram
level
in
2020
that
was
significantly
lower
than
what
we've
seen
due
to
the
covid
pandemic
and
kids
not
going
to
get
tested
in
2019.
We
had
80
kids
at
that
five
level,
so
we're
still
seeing
those
decreases,
which
is
really
great
from
our
point
of
view.
P
We
want
to
be
working
ourselves
out
of
a
job,
basically
just
quickly
wrapping
up
on
some
of
these
visuals.
This
is
just
a
really
quick
comparison
of
1995
bloodlet
levels
at
10
micrograms.
That's
going
to
be
on
your
left,
so
each
one
of
these
houses
represents
a
property
that
we
worked
at
and
you
can
see
the
number
there
is
11.
just
over
1100
of
them
and
that's
at
10
micrograms.
So,
like
I
said
at
five
micrograms
in
2020,
we
had
70
cases
in
2019.
It
was
at
80
cases.
P
You
can
still
see
that
concentration
happening
in
in
pockets
of
the
city,
but
the
overall
prevalence
is
significantly
less
than
what
we've
seen
in
the
past,
and
so
that's
that's,
that's
really
good
and
then
one
more
lisa
just
and
just
our
last.
My
my
last
piece
here
is
that
I
wanted
to
say
that
you
know
finding
an
edl
is
really
difficult
and
these
numbers
only
represent
diagnosed
patients.
Typically,
kids
will
go
to
the
doctor.
They'll
get
a.
P
While
lead
is
a
cumulative
toxin,
it
only
stays
in
your
blood
for
a
short
period
of
time,
so
we
also
have
to
catch
the
kids
shortly
after
their
exposure.
Most
kids
are
getting
tested
right
around
their
birthdays
for
their
annual
checkups.
So
it's
a
very
narrow
window
when
we
can
actually
know
that
there's
a
diagnosed
bloodline
level,
so
just
because
you
know
a
test
comes
back
negative
doesn't
mean
that
there
has
been
no
exposure.
P
So
what
we
really
want
to
be
doing
is
shifting
our
focus
to
more
of
these
prevention
strategies,
as
opposed
to
the
reactive
strategies
that
we've
used
in
the
past
and
that
you
know
comes
with
lowering
the
the
rate
of
intervention
as
well
as
just
reaching
out
to
kids,
who
haven't
actually
had
the
diagnosis
yet,
but
we
want
to
get
into
these
properties
before
the
children
are
harmed,
as
displayed
in
the
maps
that
we
had
up
there
is
we.
E
P
P
So
that's
that
last
slide
that
we
wanted
to
show
you
is
that
you
know
when,
when
paint
isn't
maintained,
you
know
these
are
the
types
of
consequences
that
will
happen,
and
particularly
with
like
windows
in
old
houses,
is
that
kids
are
very
attracted
to
the
outside
they're
curious,
they're
excited
and
they
want
to
be
experienced
in
the
world
and
they
get
their
hands
and
they
get
their
mouse
into
a
lot
of
different
places.
P
They
also
get
their
toys
and
their
and
their
food
and
all
sorts
of
things
caught
up
in
these
in
these
items.
So.
E
P
Q
Sorry
about
that,
thank
you
for
having
us
today
and
allowing
us
to
share
with
you
on
the
work
we
are
doing
in
the
city.
My
name
is
ferdoza
omar.
I
manage
the
lat
hazard
reduction
grant
lisa.
I
managed
a
lot
has
a
reduction
of
grads.
We
got
these
funds
from
housing
and
urban
development.
As
alex
has
stated,
we've
got
two
grants
currently,
one
that
we
got
awarded
in
2017
and
another
one
that
we
got
awarded
in
2020.
Q
Q
Part
of
it
is
preventative
measures,
people
that
we've
meeting
in
the
community
and
enrolling
in
our
grant
program
that
way,
referrals
that
we
get
from
housing
as
well
as
fizz,
the
other
400
thousand
dollars
of
the
2.9
million
dollars,
is
used
for
strictly
used
for
other
safety
and
and
health
hazards
in
the
home.
Q
Some
of
those
include
radon
mitigation,
mold
and
mildew,
installing
handrails,
putting
in
new
vinyl
flooring,
doing
integrated
pest
management,
doing
any
energy
audits
and
weatherization
work,
replacing
furnaces
and
replacing
hot
water
heaters,
especially
that
last
bit
within
the
weatherization.
It's
a
program
that
we've
just
started
building
and
we're
hoping
to
expand
that
into
our
new
in
our
new
grant.
In
the
current
grant,
we've
made
193
properties.
Let's
save
these
properties
include
both
single-family
dwellings,
duplexes
and
multi-units.
Q
We've
educated
over
3000
people
by
both
doing
in-home
education
one-on-one
with
clients
during
our
inspections,
or
do
during
some
of
our
site
visits
as
well
as
outreach
events
before
covet.
We
were
having
about
six
to
seven
events
per
year.
Some
of
these
are
tabling
events
we
table
at
events
that
are
happening
in
the
community.
Q
Some
of
them
is
because
we
partner
with
other
agencies
to
do
block
by
block
let
testing
events
we
choose
blocks
that
have
higher
rental
properties
with
possibly
more
deteriorated,
lead
paint,
we
block
out
those
on
our
map
and
then
we
go
out
and
then
make
sure
we
take
the
the
van
and
test
kits
on
site
and
also
in
this
current
grant,
we've
trained
over
200
about
200
property
owners
on
how
to
work
less
safely.
Q
This
training
comes
in
two
formats,
both
the
rrp
repair,
renovate
and
painting
course,
which
is
an
eight-hour
class
which
is
targeted
towards
rental
property
owners,
and
then
we've
got
a
four-hour
training
course
that
we
partner
with
with
sustainable
resource
on,
and
that
is
strictly
meant
for
homeowners
and
then
in
these
trainings.
Q
They
learn
how
to
work
with,
let's
safely,
how
to
set
up
containment
in
their
home,
while
they're
doing
the
lead
work,
how
to
do
the
work
properly
and
how
to
clean
up
afterwards,
so
they
don't
poison
themselves
and
their
families
or
if
it's
a
contractor,
so
they're
not
poisoning
the
people
that
are
in
the
homes
that
they're
working
in
next
slide
lisa.
Q
These
are
some
pictures
of
recent
jobs
that
we've
done
generally.
When
we
go
into
the
home
property,
that's
enrolled
in
the
grant.
We
do
a
lot
assessment.
We
test
all
painted
surfaces
inside
and
outside
the
house.
We
go
to
basement
addicts
exterior
of
the
home.
We
assess
the
garage
we
compile.
All
of
that,
we
send
the
reports
to
the
the
property
owner
outlining
some
of
the
hazards.
Q
Most
of
the
sources
of
exposure
for
lead
are
generally
in
older,
leaded
windows.
You
know
you've
got
lead
paint
on
the
outside
inside
of
the
window,
as
well
as
the
back
sash
every
time
that
family
opens
and
closes
that
window
they're
creating
lead
dust
lead
is
heavy.
So
when
you
open
the
window,
air
blows
in
that
lead
dust
is
settling
right
underneath
the
window.
It's
on
the
floor.
Q
Kids
are
crawling
on
the
floor
and
that's
how
they're
ingesting
it
and
it
is
getting
into
their
body
also
window
sills
are
another
it's
another
component
that
has
a
higher
exposure
level
for
kids.
The
first
picture
that
you
see
it's
like
a
windowsill
that
has
the
paint
tube
out
that
photo
was
taken
from
a
home
where
it
was
a
child
with
elevated
blood
blood.
You
know,
window
sills
are
perfect.
Height.
Q
Kids
are
right
there
holding
onto
that
still
trying
to
see
what's
happening
outside
once
they
you
know,
get
that
lead
into
their
bodies.
Let
paint
sweet,
so
they'll
go
right
back
to
it
again.
Q
So
for
components
like
these,
like
windows
will
replace
them
windowsills,
we
replace
them.
We
don't
even
say
paint
over
it.
We
just
replace
it
completely
port
floors.
The
last
two
photos
are
pictures
of
port
floors.
You
can
only
imagine
in
the
summer
if
it's
hot
families
don't
have
any
air
conditioning.
The
kids
are
in
the
porch
playing
with
their
toys
on
the
floor
and
that
whole
gray
paint
on
that
floor
is
all
lead.
Q
In
addition
to
doing
the
lead
assessment,
our
inspectors
assess
for
other
hazards.
In
the
home
now,
there's
29
hazards
we
assess
for
lead
is
included
in
the
29.
Some
of
the
other
hazards
that
we
asses
assess
for
is
diamond
mold
access,
cold,
excess
heat,
missing
seals,
smoke,
alarms
assessing
for
pest
trips
and
falls.
We
have
limited
fund
for
healthy
homes.
We
when
we
go
out,
we
identify
the
hazards
most
of
the
homes
we
go
into.
We
find
multiple
hazards.
These
are
houses
that
are
built
before
1978
with
deferred
maintenance.
Q
So
we
generally
broke
down
break
down
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done
with
what
we
can
cover
with
our
funds,
which
are
limited
and
then
with.
If
it's
a
rental
property,
we
give
the
landlord
a
list
of
other
things
that
are
immediate.
That
needs
to
be
taken
care
of.
If
it's
a
homeowner,
we
usually
send
them
to
connect
them
to
local
resources
that
could
help
them
address
some
of
those
additional
hazards
that
we've
identified
in
the
home
next
slide.
Q
Lisa
in
our
current
grant,
everybody
in
minneapolis
can
apply,
who
meets
the
requirement
can
apply
for
the
grant.
However,
there
are
two
areas
that
we
we're
mainly
focusing
on
north
and
south
minneapolis.
That's
what
you
see
the
map
on
the
right
hand,
side
the
current
award
amount
for
this
grant
is
5.7
million
dollars.
5
million
of
that
is
going
into
addressing
lead
hazards.
Q
700
000
is
going
into
healthy
homes,
repairs,
we're
gonna,
be
focusing
more
on
doing
weatherization
work.
Under
this
fund
we
went
from
having
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
grant.
That's
closing
now
to
having
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars,
which
is
great.
The
city
is
matching
that
with
is
providing
800
thousand
dollars
in
match
funds
into
this
grant.
Q
We
will
be
we're
hoping
to
make
225
homes
healthy
and
safe
for
families
we're
hoping
to
spend
on
average,
about
14,
000
dollars
per
home
and-
and
you
know,
address
any
light
hazards
that
are
found
in
the
home
in
addition
to
the
healthy
homes
money
that's
available.
Q
Also,
within
this
grant,
we
are
trying
to
train
contractors.
Currently,
we've
got
a
limited
pool
of
lead
abatement
contact
contractors
and
we've
had
that
for
a
while
in
the
city,
we've
got
additional
funds
in
this
grant
and
what
we're
hoping
to
do
is
find
people
that
are
interested
in
taking
this
training
and
hopefully
becoming
lead
abatement
contractors
in
in
the
city.
It's
a
five-day
training,
we're
willing
to
pay
for
the
training
as
well
as
possibly
partnering
them
up
with
contractors
that
have
been
in
the
field
for
a
while
for
mentorship.
Q
We
will
be
training,
also
220
individuals,
both
compromising
of
landlords,
homeowners
and
maintenance
staff.
The
reason
for
training
the
maintenance
staff
is
more
often
than
not
it's
the
property
managers
that
are
re,
maintaining
the
property
retouching
up
paint
and
the
the
property
owners
are
nowhere
in
sight.
So
our
hope
is
train
these
people,
so
they
know
how
to
work
less
safely.
They're
not
going
into
homes
causing
deaths,
hazards,
creating
death
hazards
and
a
child
is
led
poison
and
then
we're
showing
up
so
trying
to
be
really
preventative
in
that
aspect.
Q
In
addition
to
everything
else,
we've
got
165
thousand
dollars
slotted
in
this
current
grant
for
outreach
and
education.
We're
going
to
continue
to
obviously
table
at
events.
Q
Hopefully,
when
we
can
resume
those
tasks,
we're
also
will
be
doing
bloodlet
testing
in
the
in
the
neighborhoods,
as
well
as
developing
videos,
doing
advertising
newspaper
ads
facebook
posts,
bench,
bus,
stop
bench,
putting
advertisements
there
and
working
with
other
non-profits
in
both
north
and
south
and
see
if
we
can
do
outreach
education
outreach
through
those
agencies
as
well
next
slide,
lisa,
here's,
the
grand
flyer,
I
would
be
more
than
happy
through
lisa
to
email.
Q
You
guys
this
flyer,
if,
if
you
know
anybody
that
is
interested
or
have
other
partners
who
could
who
have
people
that
could
use
these
resources,
please
share
with
them.
Thank
you.
N
So
we're
trying
to
move
our
program
from
just
responding
to
lead,
poisoning,
to
actually
preventing
lead,
poisoning
and
to
show
what
this
means
on
a
block
level.
On
this
block
there
was
20,
there
were
26
houses,
a
minimum
of
18
children
were
poisoned
on
this
block
over
20
years
and
only
five
of
the
houses
were
repaired.
N
Why
only
five
houses?
That's
because
the
level
that
we
were
responding
to
was
much
much
higher
in
the
past.
So
all
these
houses
are
still
out
there.
The
repairs
haven't
been
made
and
we
want
to
get
back
into
these
houses
and
make
them
lead
safe.
So
we
don't
have
a
a
future
child
poisoned.
N
Our
motto
is:
we
need
to
stop
using
children
as
lead
detectors.
The
model
was
set
up
to
respond
to
children
after
they
were
poisoned.
We
need
to
get
ahead
of
that
and
so
to
do
that
over
the
last
two
years
we've
been
training,
I
think
we're
up
to
like
six
environmental
service
inspectors
now.
So
when
their
shop
is
a
little
slower
in
the
winter,
we
can
do
more
inspections
in
homes
to
identify
hazards.
N
We've
been
piloting,
integrated
inspections
with
regulatory
services
and
that's
been
of
great
benefit
to
both
programs.
The
housing
inspectors
are
learning
more
about
lead,
we're
learning
more
about
housing
code,
so
we
can
provide
better
services
to
the
residents
of
the
city
and
we're
offering
inspections
to
children
below
the
lead,
poisoning
rate.
So
again
we
get
in
we
intervene
and
that
child's
blood
level
does
not
continue
to
rise
and
we're
targeting
these
activities
into
the
neighborhoods
that
have
historically
had
the
higher
levels
of
lead
poisoning.
N
So
this
is
how
we
make
the
change.
We
know
the
ages
of
the
housing
and
we
know
the
neighborhoods
we
need
to
get
into.
We've
recently
received
a
city
council
directive
to
formulate
a
lead,
poisoning
prevention
plan
which
we'll
be
producing
and
writing
over
the
next
few
months.
But
what
role
can
this
committee
play?
So
this
committee
we're
going
to
ask
you
to
review
and
comment
on
ordinance
changes
and
proposed
policy
changes
that
would
be
included
in
our
poisoning
plan
and
I'd
be
happy
to
listen
to
any
suggestions.
N
People
have
about
how
they
would
like
to
see
those
things
developed,
but
we
will
come
to
you
when
we
do
when
we
are
working
on
future
ordinances
and
just
asking
budgetary
support
for
our
our
health
and
housing
coordinator
position,
so
that
we
can
continue
to
integrate
more
our
services
working
with
the
regulatory
services.
F
Yeah
lisa,
thank
you,
lisa
for
your
presentation
and
the
other
two
people.
So
this
is
karina,
and
I
applaud
that.
That's
I.
I
think
it's
so
needed
for
us
to
have
these
healthy
homes
for
the
housing
that
you
know
go
year
after
year
being
expected
when
they
pass
these
inspections
and
families.
F
Are
you
know,
living
in
slum
conditions,
so
I
think
it's
most
needed
and
then
it
also
should
apply
to
you
know
you
guys
going
into
these
react
inspections
as
well,
so
that
homes
are
continuing
to
stay
healthy,
but
I
talked
to
andrea
the
other
day
had
a
meeting
with
her
in
the
mayor,
and
I
was
just
talking
about
my
healthy
homes
project
and
it's
something
kind
of
similar,
but
it
would
even
have
somebody
to
go
in
and
do
the
cleaning
for
the
families
so
that
the
most
times
that
they're,
you
know
continuing
to
be
reported,
the
my
organization
will
go
in
and
help
clean
up
the
you
know
the
properties
or
whatever,
but
I
think
it's
a
great
idea,
I
think
is,
is
it's
been
needed
and
more
people
should
be
aware
of
it.
F
N
F
C
Looks
like
melissa's
hand
is
up
first,
just
real
quick.
I
don't
think
that
this
presentation
was
linked
to
the
agenda
yet
will
it
be
circulated
and
shared
online.
N
Yes,
sorry,
our
intention
is
to
have
it
be
with
the
agenda,
so
people
can
address
the
can
access.
The
presentation
then.
H
Yeah
yeah
and
that's
melissa,
newman,
just
a
suggestion.
Lisa,
I
know
like
you
said
you
don't
want
to
have
to
be
finding
the
lead
within
the
children,
and
you
already
have
an
idea
of
the
neighborhoods
that
and
houses
that
have
the
lead
issues
and
some
of
them
that
have
been
cleaned
up.
Some
haven't.
Have
you
guys
thought
of
maybe
looking
on
the
list
and
sending
something
directly
to
the
landlords
as
well
as
informing
them?
H
At
the
same
time,
because
you
know
how
you
know,
I
told
everybody
now
I
was
on
the
northern
metals
committee
when
it
kind
of
first
started
and
the
decree
came,
but
one
of
the
big
big
issues
and
how
in
reaching
out
to
people,
was
the
fear
of
renters
being
retaliated
on
once
they've
opened.
This
can
of
worms
and
the
landlords
have
all
these
different
codes
and
things
that
they
need
to
come,
bring
up
to
speed
and
to
get
this
get
the
lead
and
the
mold
and
everything
up
out
of
there.
H
But
have
you
guys
thought
of
doing
it
the
opposite
way
and
sending
something
to
the
landlords
to
allow
you
to
have
access
to
the
house
and
then
at
the
same
time,
if
they
have
renters
to
test
the
children
accordingly,.
N
N
There
are
some
landlords
who
have
come
back
to
us
who
have
gone
through
the
program
and
have
come
back
after
they
purchased
new
properties
and
continue
to
enroll
their
properties
as
they
acquire
them
into
this
program.
So
I
I
like
to
think
that
we
have
good
relationships
with
landlords
in
our
program.
There
is
a
cost-sharing
element,
so,
but
it's
it's
it's
the
old
grant.
N
M
Okay,
here
I
go
all
right,
so
I
participated
when
it
was
the
something
stability
program.
There
was
a
stability
program
similar
to
what
the
city
is
doing,
found
out,
that
we
had
lead
here
in
our
unit
and
the
cost
was
eight
thousand
dollars.
M
I
I
was
not
able
to
do
that
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
all
have
something
that
is
more
cost
effective
for
tenants,
because
landlords
often
do
not
want
to
pay
to
get
those
windows
put
in
number
two
on
the
northern
metals,
when
I
was
working
with
the
people
with
northern
metals,
I
understood
that
there
was
some
money
available
to
get
kids
like
dehumidifiers
and
a
couple
other
different
things.
I'm
wondering,
will
the
city
be
able
to
pick
up
that
tab
and
get
children,
some
dehumidifier
or
whatever?
It
is.
N
Queen,
the
over
over
the
years
over
the
last
20
25
years,
there's
been
three
organizations
at
a
minimum
of
three
organizations
involved
in
less
lead,
housing,
control
funding
and
that's
been
hennepin
county,
sustainable
resource
center
and
the
minneapolis
health
department,
and
over
the
years
the
the
programs
have
varied
a
little
less
too.
How
how
much
matching
funds
need
to
go
into
it?
So
I'm
sorry
that
your
landlord
didn't
want
to
participate
and
wanted
to
pass
the
costs
on
to
you.
We
don't
think
that's
how
it
should
be
if
it's
a
rental
property.
N
I
think
the
program
is
very
generous
with
a
thousand
dollar
match
to
ten
thousand
dollars
worth
of
work,
that's
being
done
and
and
we're
actually
have
increased
the
amount
of
work
that
can
be
done
in
the
properties
now
as
far
as
the
so
so
I
would
encourage
anybody
who
is
interested
in
to
call
us
we're
very
upfront
with
all
the
costs
involved
and
can
give
costs
to
people
before
they
sign
on
the
dotted
line,
so
that
everybody
knows
what's
involved
in
in
going
through
one
of
these
rehab
projects
and
for
the
the
northern
metals
funding.
N
Yes,
that
still
exists,
and
in
fact
the
service
area
has
been
expanded
to
all
of
north
minneapolis
and
northeast
minneapolis
and
we'll
be
rolling
out
some
advertising
on
that.
So,
yes,
we
can
provide
children
with
usually
it's
hepa
air
cleaners
and
allergen
bedding
covers
and
whatever
they
need.
We
will
tailor
to
help
reduce
the
asthma
triggers
that
are
in
their
specific
home
to
coincide
with
their
specific.
F
Needs
hey
lisa,
oh
my
god,
hey
lisa
do
phs
still
does
it
still
exist.
N
I
believe
that
phs
is
no
longer
doing
and
that's
pediatric
home
service.
I
believe
they
are
not
doing
home
asthma
visits,
although
if
you
went
through
their
program
before
some
of
those
nurses
are
now
working
at
children's
hospital
and
we
do
still
stay
in
touch
with
them
and
accept
referrals
from
them.
F
Okay,
yeah
because
I
still
talk
to
barb
and
you
know:
okay,
all
right.
I
was
curious
of
that,
but
yeah.
I
think
it's
awesome
and
I
agree
with
queen
that
you
know
supplying
those
air
purifiers
and
those
materials
that
can
help
with
that
dust
and
mold
and
all
that
stuff.
That's
in
these
unhealthy
homes.
I
think
it
matters
so.
F
Yeah,
they
don't
know
exist.
So
one
thing
I
would
also
say
is,
I
know
I
talk
a
lot
about
this
to
kelly.
Maybe
you
should
also
make
sure
you're
reacting
to
the
three-tier
properties,
because
if
they're
three-tier
properties-
and
you
have
you
got
so
many
complaints,
then
that's
that'll
be
where
you
hit
home
at
too.
N
F
F
F
C
Yeah
thanks
just
really
briefly
a
comment
and
a
a
question
I
think,
maybe
for
alex
but
or
lisa.
I
just
want
to
say
how
incredible
incredibly
helpful
it's
been
to
have
the
health
department's
work
on
this
for
legal
aid.
We've
partnered
and
the
folks
at
the
health
department
have,
you
know,
referred
cases
to
legal
aid
where
you
know
there
might
be
gaps
in
the
city
code
of
what
it
what
the
inspectors
can
or
can't
cite
for.
C
But
then
you
know
all
of
the
you
know
legally
under
state
law,
landlords
need
to
keep
their
state
laws.
Regulating
that
you
know,
landlords
need
to
keep
places
healthy
and
safe,
regardless
of
what
the
city
code
says,
but
it's
just
been
so
crucial
to
have
all
of
your
work
on
the
ground
and
really
focusing
on
these
health
hazards.
I
know
lead
gets
talked
about
a
lot.
I
think
I
just
want
to
underscore
just
how
frankly
terrifying
it
is
that
covid.
You
know
all
the
ways
that
you
know
the
coven
19
pandemic
is
exacerbating.
C
C
You
know,
maybe
you
know
in
a
place
where
they're
not
feeling
comfortable
complaining
to
the
city
about
an
issue
in
their
in
their
rental
property
based
on
rent
issues
or
something
else.
We
know.
311
complaints
have
been
significantly
down
since
the
pandemic
started.
So
this
any
sort
of
affirmative
work
that
your
team
is
doing,
I
think,
is
just
so
helpful,
not
only
for
you
know,
enforcing
people's
rights,
you
know
and
us
helping
enforce
their
rights
but
to
keep
them
healthy
and
frankly
alive.
C
So
I
just
want
to
really
underscore
the
importance
of
this
program.
From
my
perspective
as
a
legal
aid
attorney,
and
then
I
just
wanted
to,
I
know
we
talk
about
lead,
a
lot,
which
is
extremely
important.
I
do
just
want
to
see
if
either
alex
or
lisa
can
comment
on
or
kelly
on
sort
of
the
the
current
state
of
city
code
as
it
pertains
to
mold
and
where
you
might
see
opportunities
for
ways
that
mold
and
moisture
can
be
better
enforced
in
city
properties.
J
What
I
could
tell
you
is
that
we've
had
many
conversations
over
the
years
about
how
to
address
mold
and
moisture
issues
in
prop
is
resin
in
rental
properties.
We've
made
some
more
progress
recently
on
potential
ordinance
language
that
would
that
we're
with
legal
aid
and
the
health
department
on
possible
introduction
into
the
ordinance.
J
That's
very
that
specifically
says
that
we
can
at
least
address
visible
mold
and
some
other
obvious
moisture
issues.
So
we
are
in
the
process
of
doing
that
or
looking
at
that,
so
I
guess
that's.
What
I
could
say
is
that
we're
working
with
legal
aid
and
the
health
department
and
we're
on
what
what
we
might
do,
we're
looking
at
modeling,
some
of
the
language
after
partners
in
new
york
and
alex
fulmer,
did
a
terrific
job
of
looking
at
what
other
cities
do
and
how
other
cities
address
it.
J
It's
a
it's
a
really
difficult.
I
know
it
doesn't
it
doesn't
seem
that
way,
but
it
really
is
from
a
regulatory
perspective.
It's
one
of
the
most
difficult
things
for
us
to
regulate,
simply
because
lots
of
mold
is
not
visible.
J
Sometimes
the
moisture
is
hard
to
detect.
It
often
takes
specific
equipment
to
to
detect
and
to
monitor
so
we're
all
we're.
Looking
at
that
as
well
and
and
then
also
from
a
regulatory
perspective,
is
it
best
to
be
regulated
by
health
by
housing
or
some
combination
of
our
of
our
two
groups.
So
joey
did
that
answer
your
question
I
other
than
where
we're
looking
into
it,
and
I'm
hoping
that
we'll
have
some
something
to
show
in
the
next
month
or
two.
F
F
B
Yes,
is
this
a
member
of
the
committee?
No
I'm
not!
I
am
so
yeah
sorry.
This
conversation
right
now
is
for
the
committee
members.
We
had
a
public
comment
period
at
the
beginning
of
the
call
and
if
you
would
like
to
comment
in
the
future,
you're
welcome
tutoring
the
first
10
minutes
of
our
march
meeting.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
yeah
thanks
for
understanding,
so
we
are
about
at
our
time
for
it
for
this
discussion,
but
was
there
I'll
give
a
chance
melissa?
I
see
melissa,
you
had
your
hand
up
right.
Do
you
want
to
go.
E
E
B
H
No
worries,
thank
you,
lisa.
Were
you
guys
able
to?
I
know
you
guys
had
a
an
asthma
person
at
one
point
in
time,
then
they,
you
know
they
long
longer
work
with
the
city.
Were
you
able
to
hire
someone
to
focus
in
on
asthma
and
or
and
corporate
covid
as
well?
And
then,
if
you
did,
what
what
do
you?
N
I
am
very
pleased
to
announce
that
we
did
we're
able
to
hire
somebody
and
they've
been
going
through
our
training
process.
We
were
fortunate
and
we
were
able
to
acquire
vu
tran,
who
was
who
used
to
work
for
housing
and
he
is
going
to
be
our
asthma
coordinator
and
so
he's
very
experienced
in
things.
He
is
currently
this
week
in
let
in
lead
training
class,
and
so
I
expect
that
you
will
see
him
out
in
the
field
and
he
will
be
reinvigorating.
N
Our
northern
metals
outreach
as
well
as
running
the
epa
grant
for
the
so
you'll,
be
seeing
a
lot
more
on
asthma
and
lead
education
and
covid
and
outreach
happening
coming
soon.
C
R
If
you're
a
general
contractor
by
state
law,
you
have
to
be
lead
certified
within
the
first
cycle
of
being
a
general
contractor.
So
it
is
a
very,
very
extensive
process
of
going
doing
lead
abatement
and
I've
done
lead
abatement
numerous
times,
and
you
know
even
I
I
talked
to
landlord
groups
and
teach
them
because
I'm
a
landlord
also
how
to
do
lead
abatement
encapsulation
primarily.
So
there
are
other
avenues
that
are
kind
of
being
addressed,
and
it's
just
good
for
the
committee
to
be
aware
of
some
of
those
things.
Thanks.
B
S
Sorry
all
right,
hi,
everyone,
sorry,
I
missed
the
first
part
of
the
meeting
today,
but
glad
to
be
here
for
the
last
item.
S
So
I
am
just
going
to
cover
a
little
bit
more
a
little
bit
of
information
about
new
emergency
rental
assistance
program
that
is
still
under
development
and
hoping
we
can
have
a
little
bit
of
discussion
about
it
as
well.
So
I
think
this
came
up
at
our
last
meeting
that
at
the
end
of
the
year
last
year,
congress
passed
another
covid
relief
package.
S
It
included
25
billion
dollars
in
emergency
rental
assistance,
that's
for
the
whole
country.
So
of
that
amount,
minnesota
received
375
million
dollars
and
jurisdictions
with
populations
of
more
than
200
000
people
were
eligible
to
receive
a
direct
allocation
of
funding,
so
minneapolis
obviously
has
more
than
200
000
people,
and
so
we
were
eligible
for
that.
S
So
we
did
receive
a
direct
allocation
of
12.8
million
dollars,
and
so
we
are
currently
working
with
the
other
jurisdictions
that
also
receive
direct
allocations
of
funding,
as
well
as
with
the
minnesota
housing
finance
agency,
which
will
be
administering
the
statewide
funds
working
on
plans
for
implementation.
S
S
It
can
also
include
up
to
three
months
of
prospective
rent
and
the
eligibility
requirements
are
that
it's
for
households,
earning
80
percent
of
area,
median
income
or
less
currently
in
the
metro
area,
80
percent
of
area
median
income
is
eighty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
It's
but
there's
a
priority
for
households,
earning
fifty
percent
of
area,
median
income
or
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year
or
less.
S
In
addition
to
those
income
qualifications,
households
have
to
have
either
a
member
of
the
household
who
has
been
on
unemployment
for
90
days.
That's
the
priority,
but
the
other
way
to
qualify
is
that
to
have
a
a
reduction
in
household
income
or
and
have
incurred
significant
costs
or
other
financial
hardship
due
to
covet
19.,
and
then
households
have
to
demonstrate
a
risk
of
experience
of
a
risk
of
housing
instability,
so
those
are
kind
of
the
basic
requirements
of
the
program
there.
S
I
know
there
have
been
a
lot
of
we've
had
a
lot
of
discussion
in
this
committee
about
whether
people
receiving
housing,
choice,
vouchers
or
living
in
public
housing
are
have
been
so
they
have
not
largely
been
eligible
for
past
emergency
rental
assistance
programs.
S
I
think
jeff
put
something
in
the
chat
before
he
left
that
we
have
had
been
having
conversations
with
minneapolis
public
housing
authority
about
about
trying
to
partner
to
make
sure
that
we
can
serve
public
housing
and
housing
choice,
voucher
holders.
However,
we
are
still
waiting
on
some
guidance
from
treasury
about
the
rules
around
that
so
I'll
just
say
that
our
hope
is
that
we
can.
S
We
can
serve
people
living
in
public
housing
or
who
are
receiving
other
forms
of
rental
assistance.
The
legislation
itself
says
that
you
cannot
duplicate
federal
benefits,
so
we
hope
the
interpretation
will
be.
That
means
you
know
the
city's
emergency
rental
assistance
couldn't
pay
for
something
that
mpha
is
also
paying
for.
However,
hopefully
our
rental
assistants
could
pay
for
the
tenants
portion
of
the
rent
that
the
renter
is
responsible
for
so
we're
waiting
on
some
clarity
from
treasury
about
that.
But
that
is
our
hope
as
as
to
what
the
direction
is
there.
S
S
S
However,
there
is
a
provision
in
the
legislation
that
if
a
landlord
is
uncooperative,
then
the
payment
could
go
directly
to
a
renter
and
treasury
has
given
some
guidance
on
what
local
officials
are
supposed
to
do
or
administrators
are
supposed
to
do
to
determine
if
a
landlord
is
being
uncooperative.
S
S
One
thing
we
heard
have
heard
quite
a
bit
and
is
that
it
was
really
confusing
last
year
when
there
were
like
four
or
five
different
emergency
rental
assistance
programs
available
at
the
same
time
that
all
had
you
know
slightly
different
rules,
and
so
we
are
that's.
Why
we're
talking
so
frequently
with
the
other
jurisdictions
and
the
state
we're
trying
to
align
as
much
as
we
can
in
terms
of
how
the
application
process
works
and
the
guidelines
for
the
programs?
S
I
think
we
really
want
to
make
sure
that
that
the
requirements
are
kind
of
as
broad
as
possible
to
the
extent
that
we
can.
For
example,
I
mentioned
that
one
of
the
pieces
is
that
a
household
must
be
experiencing
financial
instability
due
to
covid
we're
hoping
that
the
guidance
we
receive
from
treasury
is
that
that
can
be
pretty
open-ended,
like
people
should
be
able
to
sort
of
attest
in
writing
that
they're
experiencing
financial
instability
due
to
covet,
and
that
should
be
hopefully
sufficient.
S
So
the
initial
gut,
so
treasury
issued
some
initial
guidance
right
before
the
shift
in
administrations
at
the
federal
level.
That
guidance
did
indicate
they'd
want
more
documentation
than
kind
of
what
we
were
hoping.
It
would
say.
However,
they
have
now
said:
they're
they're,
going
to
be
issuing
revised
guidance
they've
their
website
for
about
a
week
and
a
half
has
said
coming
soon.
S
So
I
don't
know
what
soon
means,
but
I
we
had
kind
of
thought:
we'd
have
it
last
week
we
still
don't
have
it
so
we're
waiting
on
that
a
little
bit
in
the
meantime,
the
city
is,
is
reaching
out
we're
trying
to
we've
issued
some
solicitations
to
find
administrators
for
programs.
One
is
in
partnership
with
other
metro
jurisdictions.
Looking
for
an
administrator
that
would
be
more
focused
on
help
getting
landlord
helping
landlords
through
the
application
process
and
then
we're
also
doing
the
same
thing
on
the
tenant
side.
S
So
it's
really
the
same
program.
It's
just
like
both
both
tenants
and
landlords
can
apply,
and
we
anticipate
we'll
have
different
administrators
who
will
be
focused
on
tenants
versus
not
landlords
and
again.
The
other
piece
is
we're,
hoping
there
will
be
sort
of
centralized
intake
and
application
systems
among
all
the
jurisdictions
that
have
received
allocations
of
funding.
S
So
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
we're
expecting
to
bring
some
requests
to
council
later
this
month
for
being
able
to
kind
of
start
to
put
pieces
of
the
program
in
place
and
we
hope
to
launch
in
march.
But
there
are
still
some
you
know
pieces.
We
need
to
just
work
out
among
all
the
different
partners,
but
I'd
like
to
hopefully
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
but
then
would
love
to
hear
from
the
committee.
S
You
know
I
know
many
of
you
have
worked
with
people
or
maybe
even
you
know
applied
yourself
to
some
of
these
programs
that
were
open
last
year
and
would
love
to
hear
from
you
what
you
think
some
of
the
biggest
barriers
were,
that
we
could
try
to
like
overcome
or
not
have
b
barriers
this
time
around.
S
As
we
have
this
new
money
and
just
as
an
fyi,
the
the
there
is
another
coveted
relief
package
that
congress
is
considering
right
now
and
the
current
proposal
is
that
there
would
be
another
19
billion
dollars
in
emergency
rental
assistance
in
addition
to
this
25
billion
that
they
passed
at
the
end
of
the
year
last
year.
S
So
again,
that's
still
being
debated,
but
it
is
possible
we're
going
to
have
even
more
money
than
what
we
have
right
now,
which
is
a
great
thing,
and
so
we
want
to
get
the
program
set
up
in
a
way
that
they're
serving
people
well
and
that
the
process
is
smooth
so
that
we
can
help
as
many
people
as
possible.
So
so
again,
I'd
love
to
just
kind
of
well.
F
F
I
know
I
recently
spoke
with
her
and
she
applied
for
three
other
programs
or
two
other
programs,
and
the
same
thing
happened
where
she
got
denied-
and
I
was
on
my
school
pta
meeting
day
before
yesterday
and
there
was
a
couple
of
parents
on
there
as
well,
that
reached
out
to
some
different
organizations
that
popped
up,
that's
doing
something
similar
to
the
rental
assistance
and
they
were
denied
as
well.
F
They
didn't
live
in
public
housing,
but
somehow
whatever
it
was,
that
they
had,
they
got
to
die
on
both
two
different
programs.
So
I
don't
know
the
other
ones,
that's
out
there,
but
it
sounds
like
it's
more
popping
up,
but
they
still
kind
of
have
that
same
cap
where
they're
denying
renters.
F
So
I
think,
with
those
programs
and
the
legislation
or
whoever
is
all
compiling
this
language
or
these
applications.
They
need
to
talk
to
the
renters
at
this
point
because
they
need
to
look
at
the
rental
circumstances
and
figure
out
what's
really
happening
if
people
are
being
denied
now
who
don't
even
live
in
public
housing
or
any
sort
of
hud
federal
housing,
or
anything
like
that.
So
we
need
to
probably
start
talking
to
the
renters.
B
O
Hi
katie
it's
charlotte.
First
of
all,
thank
you
for
all
your
work
on
this
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
found
was
if
there
was
any
sort
of
leg
like
it,
was
really
hard
to
track
what
was
happening.
O
So
we
found
a
number
of
people
who,
like
a
good
amount
of
time,
had
passed
since
they
had
applied,
and
it
was
really
hard
to
figure
out
who
to
contact
and
who
to
call,
and
so
I've
I've
heard
that
there's
potentially
going
to
be
some
kind
of
dashboard
to
track
status,
and
I
just
think
for
both
renters
to
do
themselves
and
then
also
for
advocates
to
help
guide
renters.
O
S
Thanks
charlotte,
that's
really
helpful
and
and
that's
definitely
feedback-
we've
heard
quite
a
bit
from
the
programs
last
year,
and
so
one
of
the
goals
is
to
have
a
centralized
application
tool
that,
ideally,
both
applicants
or
people
working
on
their
behalf
could
go
in
and
see
the
status
and
that
there'd
be
more
ongoing
communication
about
like
if
a
document's
needed
or
something
like
that.
So
so
that's
really
helpful,
and
that
is
a
goal
here.
So
we're
hopefully
we'll
get
to
that.
At
that
point,.
A
B
Queen,
are
you
able
are
you
anna,
green.
M
I
am,
I
am
okay,
so
I
was
one
of
the
people
that
had
an
issue
with
figuring
out.
How
does
this
thing
really
work
after
I've
applied?
Then
I
found
out
that
the
county
had,
I
guess,
assigned
catholic
charities
to
actually
do
the
questioning.
I
didn't
answer
a
question
right
and
automatically.
I
was
just
hung
up
on
it
out
of
the
queue
and
I
couldn't
take
advantage
of
any
of
that.
So
I
I
wasn't
behind
in
my
rent
at
the
time,
and
so
I
just
didn't
qualify.
M
What
I
would
like
is
to
have
more
information
given
out
to
residents
about
this,
because
I
think
that
when
people
aren't
engaged,
they
don't
understand
what's
going
on,
they
just
are
told
hey
there.
These
things
are
happening,
there's
something
that's
available,
but
things
get
to
moving
rather
quickly
when
money
is
involved
and
automatically
it
gets
allocated
somewhere
else
and
the
real
people
that
need
the
help,
don't
always
receive
the
benefits
or
the
the
impact
is
not
made
with
those
individuals.
M
So
I
would
like
to
see
if
we
could
do
an
engagement
with
more
residents
and
if
that
is
possible,
then
be
able
to
have
those
you
know
give
out
this
information
again,
because
I
think
that's
again,
that's
going
to
be
way
more
helpful
than
just
someone
within
us
who
are
engaged
all
the
time
yeah.
M
I
just
like
to
see
that
happen,
and
hopefully
we
have
some
type
of
tracking
that
will
allow
us
to
stay
on
top
of
who
really
gets
the
help
and
who
does
it
really
impact
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I'm
gonna
reduce
myself
from
that.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Yoga,
mike.
S
Thanks
queen
and
briefly
I'll
just
say
that
I
I
really
appreciate
that
comment.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
that
happened
last
year,
you
know
the
state
had
that
hundred
million
dollars
available
for
emergency
housing
assistance
they
at
the
toward
the
end.
When
the
money
was
going
to
be
available,
they
got
nervous
that
there
was
still
quite
a
bit
left
and
did
a
big
media
push
with
the
governor
and
others,
and
then
it
was
like
overwhelming.
S
In
terms
of
you
know,
there
were
these
non-profit
administrators
trying
to
process
things
and
they
got
kind
of
flooded,
and
so
I
think
I
think
one
of
the
lessons
from
that
is
that
there
needs
to
be
like
a
real,
coordinated
media
and
outreach
kind
of
strategy,
and
so
I
know
that's
one
thing
that
the
state
has
been
talking
about.
S
Another
thing
that
we
are
talking
about
for
minneapolis
and
hennepin
county
is
is
getting
some
funding
to
community
organization
organizations
who
can
do
concerted
outreach
to
the
communities
that
they
work
with
to
make
sure
they
know
this
is
available
and
help
them
through
the
application
process.
So
I
I
mentioned
that
90
of
the
money
has
to
be
used
for
direct
assistance.
10
can
be
used
for
administrative
costs.
S
We
are
going
to
have
to
use
some
of
that
to
pay
administrators
and
for
the
technology
and
other
pieces
of
this,
but
we
are
planning
to
either
use
some
of
those
administrative
costs
here
or
or
use
some
other
funding
through
the
community
development
block
grant
program
to
pay
community
organizations
as
well
to
do
outreach
and
and
and
hopefully
also
address
the
issue
of,
like
somebody,
maybe
just
misanswering
a
question
and
getting
kicked
out
of
the
process.
Like
that's
another
thing,
we're
trying
to
address
so
thank
you,
queen
curator.
M
T
T
By
far
and
away
the
program
that
that
earned
the
highest
marks
was
what
happened
with
hennepin
county
scott
dakota
county,
the
partnership
with
family
housing
fund
and
housing
link.
It
was
very
streamlined.
T
The
checks
arrived
in
about
a
month,
whereas
we're
still
waiting,
we've
got
owners
with
dozens
and
dozens
and
dozens
of
residents
and-
and
I
heard
of
one
case
today-
they're
still
waiting
for
a
75
000
check
for
a
portfolio
from
the
state
on
the
chat
money
which
was
november
and
december,
whereas
hennepin
county
got
their
money
out
in
very
short
order.
It
was
very
efficient.
There
was
some
missteps
at
the
beginning,
but
even
having
to
go
through
the
reapplication
process
was
very
streamlined
for
direct
landlord
assistance.
T
The
the
other
aspect
that
was
challenging
and
in
our
office
here
we
even
had
some
direct
experience
with
this
was
english
or
second
language
speakers.
It
was
very
demoralizing.
They
tried
and
tried
interpretation
services
weren't
available.
They
were
directed
to
the
internet,
they
don't
have.
They
tried
to
do
stuff
on
their
phone.
It
didn't
work,
they
didn't
have
internet
access,
the
libraries
here
and
phillips
were
very
hard
to
access,
so
they
were.
T
There
were
real
real
inequities
for
especially
some
of
our
immigrant
communities,
and
they
were
very
frustrated
because
they
were
told
there
is
this
money.
They
were
experiencing
real
hardship
as
service
workers,
which
we
know
have
been
one
of
the
highest
impact
groups
and
they
just
kept
feeling
like
they
were
trying
to
do
the
right
thing
and
they
just
met
roadblocks,
and
that
was
particularly
going
through
2-1-1
and
enter
the
chat
program.
T
S
I
think
cecil,
that's
all
very
helpful
input
and
I
think
part
of
what
I
mentioned.
Might
you
know
what
I
mentioned
in
response
to
queen's
comment
too?
I
think
our
intention
would
be
to
partner
with
community-based
organizations
that
can
work,
not
that's
not
the
only
way
to
to
assist
those
who
maybe
not
be
native
english
speakers,
but
that
will
be
one
way:
we're
intending
to
have
applications
available
in
multiple
languages
and
hopefully
administrators
that
have
ability
to
serve
people
in
multiple
languages.
S
But
I
think
that's
a
really
important
point
and
one
that's
always
challenging
and
something
we
need
to
be
really.
Mindful
of
so
thank.
T
T
I
have
to
I
help
a
lot
of
residents
with
filling
out
forms
and
paperwork
because
that
it's
just
not
a
skill
that
they
have
and
we've
got
to
remove
those
barriers.
I
I
And
then,
if
that's
not
the
case,
then
they
need
to
reduce
income
or
incur
costs
or
they
need
to
demonstrate
risk
of
housing
instability.
If
someone
can
provide
proof
that
they're
behind
on
their
rent,
should
that
to
me
should
feel
sufficient
enough
that
these
people
need
help
and
then,
if
people
are
denied,
there
needs
to
be
some
type
of
appeal
process.
I
S
Around
thanks,
chloe,
that's
a
really
important
point.
So
thank
you
and
I
I
don't
know
if
I
know
we
had
an
appeal
process
like
for
the
gap,
funds
for
housing
program
with
the
city,
but
but
that
isn't
something
we've
talked
a
lot
about
yet
and
not
to
that's,
not
an
indication
that
there
won't
be
one
it's
just.
I
appreciate
you
raising
that
because
it's
a
really
important
process.
We
need
to
talk
through
and
then
I'll
just
say
on
the
qualifications.
S
You
know
what
I
think
the
balance
we're
trying.
Well,
we
there
are
certain
things
we're
gonna
have
to
do,
because
the
federal
legislation
says
that's
what
we
have
to
do,
but
beyond
that
we
are
really
trying
to
be
as
have
as
few
requirements
as
possible.
So
I
really
appreciate
you
raising
that
point,
because
I
think
it's
it's
really
important.
S
R
I
just
want
to
give
a
real
life
example.
I
had
a
tent
that
missed
her
september
rent.
She,
you
know,
I
I
with
all
my
tenants.
I
share
all
the
resources,
so
she
said:
okay,
I'm
gonna
apply.
So
there's
two
separate
issues
here,
so
we
we
got
the
application
in
for
the
coveted
relief
it
took
60
days
to
even
get
her
case
reviewed
and
then
she
gets
interviewed.
She
got
denied
because
and
I
what
this
is
kind
of
for
minneapolis.
R
She
ended
up
getting
denied
because
she
had
lost
hours
and
things,
but
they
they
said
her
lost
hours
were
because
of
the
riots
not
because
of
coven.
So
I'm
hearing
from
other
people
that
that
was
an
excuse
of
what
was
being
used.
So
we
didn't
end
up
finding
out
this
until
december
by
that
and
they
said
oh
well
just
you
know
you
just
apply
for
the
emergency
aid.
You
can
you'll
get
that
right
away.
Well,
if
we
would
have
known,
we
didn't
have
to
wait
60
to
90
days.
R
I
mean
it's
just
there's
that
juggling
right.
So
you
know
I
just
got
her
september
check
last
week.
So
the
second
piece
is,
I
ended
up
doing
in
a
my
county,
commissioner,
said
bruce.
You
have
to
realize
that
a
lot
of
people
who
are
struggling
are
just
barely
able
to
keep
their
head
above
water.
So
returning
phone
calls
filling
out
paperwork.
These
kind
of
things
don't
always
happen,
so
I'm
just
going
to
encourage
you.
I
mean
I
ended
up
pushing
this
through
the
process,
probably
80
right,
even
when
she
got
the
new
application.
R
I
I
I
stopped
back
over
and
said:
where
are
we
she
goes?
Oh,
I
have
this
form
right.
She
didn't
even
bother
to
fill
the
forms
back
out
right,
so
everyone's
different,
I'm
just
I
acknowledge
that
right,
but
if
you,
if
you
tell
a
landlord,
they
can
get
their
money,
I'm
gonna
tell
you
they're
going
to
push
this
through
right.
So
if
you
make
that
an
avenue
you
know
I'm
going
to
help
my
tenants
clear
their
debt
like
any
landlord.
R
A
B
All
right,
chloe
and
then
joey
has
a
comment
and
then
we've
got
a
couple
in
the
chat
that
either
people
can
read,
but
I
can
also
read
them:
make
sure
everyone
sees
that
so
chloe.
H
Bruce
was
saying,
but
there
should
be
some
sort
of
an
avenue.
H
Receiving
tax
breaks
for
allowing
more
income
housing
on
their
properties
and
keeping
housing
and
affordable,
so
it
hand
in
hand
with
the
tanks,
and
you
know,
there's
a
way
or
if
a
letter
can
be
written.
You
know
to
us
with
the
princess.
H
So
it's
so
that's
not
so
much
heavy
restrictions
but
that
everybody
is
able
to,
but
that
the
landlord
will
be
responsibility
on
both
paths,
the
landlords
and
the
tenants.
The
service
that
that
would
be
definitely
definitely
helpful
and
and
if
the
landlords
are
able
to
assist-
and
even
you
know,
let's
reducing
the
restrictions
not
to
let
it
be
so
difficult
and
they
can
prove
that
this
is
truly
a
hardship
for
and
then
I
don't
know
is
my
internet
going.
Can
you
guys
hear
me.
S
H
Okay,
I
try
to
switch
the
wi-fi
back
and
forth,
but
it's
like
freezing
up
and
it
looks
like
it
but
but
yeah
I
know
if
it
can
be
on
both
ends
the
landlord
and
the
tenants
to
be
able
to
help
each
other,
and
you
know
minimize
them,
probably
we'll
look
at
the
restrictions
and
see
what
it
is
and
why
people
are
getting
denied.
And
what
are
you
asking?
Are
you
just
asking
for
proof
that
they're
on
unemployment?
H
Are
you
asking
that
their
checking
account
is
negative
and
they
haven't
paid
their
landlord
rent
or
you
know
what
is
it
but
yeah?
The
landlord
should
be
help
helpful.
There
should
be
a
process
for
landlords
to
apply
for
their
attendance
as
well,
so
somebody
might
get
approved.
Maybe
the
landlord
gets
approved,
but
they
get
denied
on
their
own,
but
they
can
get
it
taken
care
of
and
so
nobody's
homeless.
S
B
So
I'm
just
going
to
read
these
two
comments
so
make
sure
everyone
can
hear
them
and
then
I'll
pass
to
joey
for
joe
your
comment
and
then
maybe
you
can
close
us
out.
As
I
know,
we're
almost
at
time
here
always
lots
of
discussion.
So
david
mcgee
said
last
round
provided
minnesota
home
ownership
center
and
habitat
a
huge
amount
of
the
resources,
10
million
dollars,
the
build
wealth
minnesota,
which
is
david's
organization,
applied
for
700
dollars
and
was
denied.
We
work
with
literally
hundreds
of
families
each
year.
B
Can
we
consider
having
grassroots
and
boots
on
the
ground,
community-based
organizations
be
administrators
and
official
conduits
to
get
the
funding
in
the
hands
of
those
that
are
most
needy?
Also
renter
education
should
be
additional
consideration
in
conjunction
with
landlord
education,
and
then
janine
said.
I
presume
that
a
major
barrier
for
many
renters
was
will
be
the
process
itself,
even
with
a
dashboard
which
sounds
like
a
great
improvement
and
even
when
landlords
can
apply
on
tenants
behalf,
which
also
sounds
great
due
to
literacy,
technology
hurdles,
etc.
B
It
might
help
to
include
the
grassroots
advocacy
groups
in
the
end-to-end
marketing
message
messaging.
For
example,
funds
are
available
and
here's
who
can
help
you
apply
for
them.
If
you
get
stuck
or
suggestions.
Also,
volunteers
who
understand
the
system
could
partner
with
tenants
for
the
application
process.
B
C
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
say
thank
you
to
katie
for
taking
the
time
to
get
this
kind
of
feedback
on
previous
programs
and
as
we're
thinking
about
future
programs,
and
I
think
that
it
was
the
will
of
this
committee
became
clear
last
month
that
people
were
really
interested
in
sharing
this,
and
then
we
I'm
really
glad
that
you
were
here
to
make
time
for
this
today.
C
I
think
this
is
a
good
example
of
all
the
different
perspectives
that
our
committee
brings
to
these
issues
and
I
just
then
want
to
say
to
transition.
I
know
we
only
have
six
minutes
left,
but
we
did
vote
to
have
a
brief
discussion
about
the
rent
stabilization
public
hearing
that
is
later
this
month,
so
robin
if
you're
still
on
the
line,
could
you
I
know
again.
C
We
only
have
a
few
minutes,
but
if
you
could
give
a
brief
overview
of
sort
of
the
state
of
where
things
are
at
and
what
is
and
isn't
being
voted
on,
and
then
the
committee
can
maybe
discuss
just
for
a
couple
minutes.
If
there's
anything,
we
want
to
say
or
do
otherwise,
it
will
be
information.
I
think
helpful
for
people
to
know
so
thanks
robin.
U
Sure,
very
briefly,
the
council
has
set
a
public
hearing
for
the
24th,
starting
at
1,
30
or
or
the
meeting
that
starts
at
1
30
at
the
policy
and
government
oversight
or
pogo
committee
on
two
proposed
charter
amendments
that
would
enable
the
city
to
consider
having
a
rent,
control
or
rent
stabilization
policy.
U
The
the
two
charter
amendments
would
the
the
first
one
would
give
the
council
the
authority
to
either
adopt
a
rent,
stabilization
ordinance
or
put
a
rent
stabilization
policy
on
a
future
ballot,
and
the
second
one
would
allow
the
people
of
minneapolis
by
petition
to
put
a
rent
stabilization
policy
before
people
voters
on
a
future
ballot.
U
The
idea
is
to
finish
the
work
on
this
at
the
full
council
meeting
on
the
26th
of
february
and
hand
it
to
the
charter.
Commission,
they
by
state
law,
have
150
days
to
review
proposed
charter
amendments.
That
would
give
them
the
time
that
they
need
to
to
look
at
that
and
get
something
back
to
the
council
by
august,
so
that
the
council
can
then
decide
in
a
final
way
whether
to
put
something
forward
to
put
on
the
ballot
this
november.
U
And
then
those
questions,
if
they
do
get
onto
the
ballot
in
november
would
have
you
know
we
would
have
a
robust
campaign
that
would
expect
both
for
and
against
would
be
doing.
A
lot
of
direct
contact
with
folks
has
to
get
51
of
the
vote
to
be
adopted,
and
then,
after
that,
we
could
have
a
conversation
based
on
what
the
result
is
about
whether
or
not
to
have
a
policy
very
quickly.
U
The
the
one
other
piece
that
folks
should
know
is
that
we
have
contracted
with
cura
the
center
for
urban
and
regional
affairs
at
the
university
of
minnesota
they're
doing
some
some
studying
on
rent
stabilization
policies
with
an
eye
to
the
local
economy
here,
and
they
will
be
giving
a
presentation
at
a
council
study
session
on
the
23rd.
C
Great
and
so
the
so
the
study
session
will
be
as
you
just
described,
and
then
the
public
hearing
will
be
about
whether
or
not
it's
like
there's
kind
of
a
few
steps
toward
there's,
not
a
rent,
control
or
rent
stabilization
policy
formed,
yet
that
there
are
steps
before
that
period
would
happen.
But
we
just
wanted
to
make
sure
folks
knew
about
the
public
hearing
opportunity
on
the
24th,
as
well
as
the
study
session
on
the
23rd
and
we're
almost
at
time.
C
But
you
know
maybe
at
our
next
meeting
we
can
talk
about
how
this
committee
wants
to
engage
with.
Some
of
these
other
ordinance
that'll
be
coming
down
the
spring,
whether
we
want
to
have
a
smaller
work
group
or
not,
but
we'll
save
that,
and
so
this
committee
will
have
an
opportunity
to
review
any
policies,
substantive
policies
as
they
get
developed
and
it
looks
like
rose.
Do
you
have
your
hand
up.
D
Hi
yeah,
I
did-
and
I
I
think
mostly
just
a
question
for
robin
because
obviously
we
won't
be
able
to
you
know,
have
a
full
discussion
and
weigh
in
on
the
20
by
the
24th.
As
a
committee.
Is
there
another
opportunity
for
us
to
weigh
in
as
a
committee
and
when
would
that
be.
U
U
So
the
council's
final
decision
on
this
is
not
made
in
february
it's
made
in
august,
so
so
even
on
the
question,
should
we
put
these
charter
amendments
on
the
ballot
and
even
maybe
like?
Are
these
phrased
the
right
way
or
should
we
should
they
be
phrased
differently?
There
will
be
some
opportunities
to
engage
both
with
the
charter
commission
in
that
in
their
process
and
then
between
now
and
and
august,
with
the
with
the
council
and
and
to
give
the
council
a
final.
U
Yes,
you
should
put
this
on
the
ballot
or
no,
you
shouldn't
put
this
on
the
back
this
year.
Does
that
make
sense.
C
D
Go
ahead.
Sorry-
and
I
guess
I
have
another
like
technical
question
about
this
committee
and
what
we're
able
to
to
do
like.
What's
within
our,
I
don't
know.
D
Like
are,
if
what
is
our
ability
to
like
make
a
public
statement,
or
you
know
like
actively
encourage
something
to
be
passed,
if
that
makes
sense,.
U
So
I
would
just
say
if
the
committee
votes
on
having
no
position
on
something
like
that.
That's
definitely
something
that
I
would
consider
appropriate
and
within
your
authority
to
do
to
recommend.
Yes,
you
should
put
this
on
the
ballot
or
no,
we
don't
think
that's
a
good
idea.
Don't
put
that
on
the
ballot.
I
don't
know
if
you
were
asking
this,
but
I'll
just
say
if
individuals
who
are
on
this
committee
want
to
speak
at
the
public
hearing,
you
could
definitely
refer
to
yourselves
as
a
member
of
this
committee.
U
I
would
just
shy
away
from
saying-
and
this
is
the
the
opinion
of
the
committee-
if
the
committee
hasn't
taken
a
full
vote
on
it,
yet.
C
Great,
so
the
leadership
committee
will
meet
after
this
meeting
and
we'll
kind
of
get
everything
that
we
promised
to
circulate
to
people
out
the
the
powerpoint
from
health
and
information
about
these
hearings.
So
we'll
send
a
substantive.
You
know:
kind
of
a
thorough
follow-up
email
to
members
for
some
more
links
to
information
about
all
the
things
we
talked
about
today.
So
it's
501.
We
had
a
jam-packed
but
lots
of
really
good
discussions.
Thank
you
everybody
for
your
time,
and
I
hope
you
have
a
really
nice
evening.
Stay
warm
and
safe.