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A
Do
it
for,
if
you
record
it
it
doesn't
matter
who
starts
it
perfect?
Somebody
did.
I
don't
know
why
it's
grayed
out.
For
me
that
happened
last
time,
but
we're
now
recording
so
charleston
go
ahead
and
start.
B
Alright
good
afternoon,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
regular
virtual
meeting
of
the
city
com
planning
commission
committee
of
the
whole
today
is
thursday
october
21st
2021.
My
name
is
alyssa
olson
and
I
am
the
vice
president
of
the
planning
commission.
B
This
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
board
members
and
staff
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statutes,
section
13d.021
due
to
the
declared
local
public
health
emergency.
The
city
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
to
the
city's
website
and
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
public
access
and
transparency.
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All
right,
we
have
a
quorum
with
that
we'll
proceed
to
the
agenda,
a
copy
of
which
was
posted
for
public
access
to
the
city's
legislative
information
management
system,
which
is
available
at
lims.mini.
B
Right,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
is
there
any
discussion.
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J
Hello
good
evening,
can
you
see
my
screen?
Okay
great,
so
this
project
is
located
at
1300,
west
broadway,
also
2018,
2011
and
2015
gerard
avenue.
North
the
site
is
at
the
corner.
The
northwest
corner
of
the
intersection
of
gerard
and
west
broadway
currently
contains
a
one-story
commercial
building.
J
J
The
existing
zoning
is
r5
for
the
residential
parcels
above
the
alley
and
then
or2
for
the
corner
parcel
all
of
them
are
located
in
the
corridor.
Six
belt
form
overlay
district.
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
seven
seven-story
mixed-use
building
with
71
dwelling
units
all
would
be
affordable
at
50
percent
ami.
J
The
bar
coffee
shop
in
hair
salon
would
all
be
located
oriented
toward
broadway,
whereas
the
daycare
would
be
oriented
toward
gerard
and
the
north
side
of
the
alley
and
then
there's
also
19
surface
parking
spaces
north
of
the
alley
as
well.
J
Here's
a
more
close
version
of
that.
So
you
can
see
there's
a
slight
gray
change
as
you
go
north
on
girard.
J
Here
are
the
two-story
commercial
spaces,
one
and
two-story
commercial
spaces,
and
then
the
top
floor
would
contain
an
outdoor
terrace.
The
the
base
of
the
building
is
brick
and
then
fiber
spun
is
proposed
for
the
upper
stories
and
then
here's
another
kind
of
detail
provided
by
the
applicant
gerard,
the
drawer
view.
So
you
can
see
here
where
the
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
cut
out
for
the
alley
they
would
be
proposing
to
vacate
the
air
rights
above
the
alley.
J
This
is
not.
This
does
not
yet
have
a
formal
green
light
from
public
works,
but
public
works
has
been
engaged
and
they
are
aware
of
it
right
now.
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
pushback
on
that,
but
I
don't
want
to
say
that
they've
approved
it
yet
or
they're.
Okay
with
that,
but
they're
in
the
process
process
of
looking
at
that.
J
Okay.
So
here's
just
more
views.
Here's
the
site
plan
landscape
plan,
I
should
say
so
the
broadway
side,
here's
the
alley.
The
commercial
spaces
would
be
here.
Here's
where
the
daycare
would
be
there's
an
outdoor
play
area
for
the
daycare
and
then
some
surface
parking
spaces
and
three
drop-off
spaces
as
well.
J
This
is
just
a
sense
of
the
first
floor
plan.
You
can
see
that
the
first
floor
plan
in
west
broadway
also
has
bicycle
parking
and
then
just
a
few
small
residential
amenity
spaces
like
the
mail
room
and
office
second
floor,
third
through
fifth,
sixth
and
seventh,
and
then
here's
some
of
the
elevations.
J
So
the
seven
story
building
is
only
allowed
in
quarter
six
through
the
administrative
height
increase,
and
for
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
satisfy
the
requirements
through
the
affordable
housing
premium
staff.
J
I
provided
some
notes
about
that
in
the
memo
about
whether
that's
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
right
now,
staff
does
feel
like
that
is
supportable.
The
the
two
items
that
we
wanted.
Your
feedback
on
tonight
are
the
variances
to
reduce
the
front
yard
requirement
along
gerard,
and
I
can
explain
that
a
little
bit
so
here
because
of
the
location
of
the
residential
property
to
the
north,
which
is
set
back
24
feet
that
24
setback
applies
to
the
first
25
feet
to
the
south
of
their
shared
property
line.
J
The
the
applicant
is
also
requesting
a
step
variance
just
for
the
reflective
set
setback
along
the
north
side,
so
that's
outlined
here
reducing
it
from
13
feet
to
10
feet.
We
are
support.
We
feel
that
we
could
support
the
side,
yard
setback
variants
along
the
west
side,
which
is
adjacent
to
commercial,
more
commercial
uses
along
west
broadway.
J
So
those
are
the
two
main
items
that
we
have
concerns
about
and
I
will
just
leave
it
at
that
and
turn
it
over
to
the
applicant
to
see
if
they
have
anything
they'd
like
to
add.
Thank
you.
K
I
would
like
to
speak
a
little
bit
on
the
on
the
setbacks
so,
for
I
I
believe
for
the
original
proposition,
we
had
come
with
a
five
feet
set
back
and
and
coming
also
from
a
prior
communication
with
the
owner
of
that
is.
Can
you
guys
hear
me?
I
just
got
a
message
there.
My
my
communication
is
bad
okay
and
then
we'll
also
be
potentially
working
with
the
owner
of
the
north
property.
K
Then,
once
we
we
established,
we
we
became
a
little
further
ahead
in
the
in
the
drawings
and
we
five
five
feet
was.
It
was
tight,
so
we
came
back
at
10
feet,
reducing
the
commercial
space
and
the
commercial
space
that
we
are
proposing
here
is
not
just
because
it's
first
floor,
it's
really
tied
to
the
community
needs
and
the
community
aspirations
for
this
project,
which
is
all
the
retail
that
we
are
proposing.
They
are
already
committed.
The
owners
are
committed
to
it
and
they
are
out
to
be
business
owners.
K
They
are
gonna,
be
owning
the
spaces.
There
is
condominium
doubt
for
their
business
to
to
own
it.
So
when
we
start
reducing
that
capability,
we
have
to
not
have
the
daycare
or
not
have
one
of
those
business
owners
that
are
really
trying
to
stay
in
the
community
stay
in
this
corner,
because,
if
you
think
about
north
minneapolis,
there's
nothing
like
this
being
offered
there
right
now.
K
So
when
we
come
to
the
table,
this
is
the
most
ready
project
in
this
area.
That
is
offering
a
inventory
that
nobody
else
is
offering.
They
got
really
excited
and
became
part
of
the
team,
and
that-
and
I
understand
the
language
on
the
variance-
is
these
practical
difficulties
and
not
only
associated
with
money
with
economics,
and
it
is
of
course,
there's
a
huge
economic
there
too.
If
you
reduce
the
beauty,
another
14
feet,
it's
going
to
play
a
huge
hotel
on
the
pro
farm.
K
What
the
potential
that
this
this
community
could
have
for
those
local
business
owners
all
north
side.
Folks,
they
have
their
business,
they
are
there,
they
are
established
business.
They
have
been
vetoed
by
media,
so
they're
ready
right
to
to
come
in
and
have
a
new
home
with
new
up
new
amenities
and
really
state-of-the-art
space.
So
we
we
understand.
K
We
understand
that
what
zoning
is
trying
to
protect
but
we're
trying
to
have
a
final
happy
medium
here,
especially
knowing
that
the
the
owner
of
the
north
property
is
planning
on
redeveloping
the
next
few
years.
I
know
that
doesn't
mean
anything
officially,
but
with
that
knowledge
and
knowing
what
the
community
is
looking
at
for
this
is
hoping
for
in
this
building.
B
B
Alright,
commissioner
marwa.
H
Hi,
I
just
had
a
question
for
the
applicant
about
what
I'm
confused.
Why
would
the
setback
affect
the
height
of
the
building
being
reduced?
If
you
don't
mind
clarifying
for
me
what
you
meant
by
that,
because
I
don't
think
we
have
an
issue
with
the
density
of
it.
As
far
as
the
setback
is
concerned,.
K
K
K
Now,
if
we
have
to
go
back
to
to
step
back
all
the
way
to
24
feet
to
to
24
feet
for
the
first
25
feet,
we
would
have
to
reduce
the
whole
building
that
way,
because
a
jog
in
a
com,
residential
building
just
doesn't
work,
and
so
that
will
cause
us
to
lose
about
10,
10
units
and
and
and
10
units
in
a
building
that
is
really
trying
to
to
do
a
lot
with
at
50.
Mi
is
a
big
deal.
K
I
K
Yeah,
because
if
we
yeah
because
they
need
the
spatial,
the
space
needs
for
daycare,
as
as
you
might
guys
might
know,
it's
is
dictated
by
the
certifications
and
access
to
outdoor
playground.
So
they
have
to
be
in
that
in
that
spot
and
that's
why
they
are
in
that
spot
too,
because
of
the
more
quiet
access.
Kids,
if
there's
a
you
know
safer,
so
they
they
reduce
that
by
another
14
feet
square
footers.
K
I
I
Well,
I
mean
whatever
you
wanted
to
highlight
for
that:
okay,
sure:
okay!
Yes,
it's
back
to
yeah
for
that
one.
So
the
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
the
issue
here.
So
if
that
building
to
the
north
happened
to
be
happened
to
have
no
setback,
then
what
would
be
the
requirement
for
this
building
like
what
so
right
now
it's
what
24
25
feet,
because
that
building
is
there.
If
it
wasn't
there,
what
would
what
would
the
setback
requirement
be?.
J
It
would
be
15
feet
because
it's
located
in
r5
so
right
now
it
has
a
little
bit
more
of
a
setback
because
of
it
hasn't
an
increased
setback
right
now,
but
they
still
have
to
comply
with
that.
But
if
it
was
a
zero
setback,
they'd
still
be
required
to
have
a
15
foot
setback
just
because
of
their
adjacency
to
the
residential
district.
I
Okay,
I
I
guess
my
thought
is:
I
I
definitely
feel
like
24
feet
seems
like
an
excessive
setback
requirement
in
particular,
because
this
is
on
a
commercial
corridor.
I
It
still
looks
to
me
like
that,
would
have
you
know
you
know
being
adjacent,
even
if
it's
you
know
close
to
residential,
it's
also
close
to
broadway,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
you
know
in
a
lot
of
commercial
spaces.
We
require
the
buildings
to
go
up
to
the
property
line
and
close
to
it
like
in
digital,
for
example,
there
was
a
requirement
that
you
had
to
go
close
to
the
the
sidewalk
to
make
it
have
that
commercial
feel.
I
So
it
feels
like
there's
kind
of
an
inconsistency
in
our
approach
decide
or
to
setbacks
when
we're
sometimes
like
requiring
people
to
go
up
to
the
proper
line
in
this
case,
forbidding
them
from
doing
it.
So
I
I
would
be
receptive
to
a
variance
on
on
the
basis
that
this
does
seem
to
be
in
a
commercial
setting
to
me.
G
Thank
you,
commissioner
meyer
kind
of
stole
a
couple
of
my
comments.
I
guess,
but
in
general,
I'd
be
open
to
the
reduced
setback
on
the
north
side
as
well,
and
just
I
guess
from
a
perspective
of
somebody
that
lives
a
few
blocks
away
from
here.
I
literally
was
by
here
like
five
minutes
ago,
on
my
way
home
from
work
this
it.
It
does
feel
like
a
very
commercial
corridor.
G
People
go
really
fast
down,
broadway
right
there
and
I
it
so
it
does
have
more
of
a
commercial
for
your
feel
versus
a
residential
feel.
So
I
think
that
the
the
first
floor,
retail
there
with
the
local
businesses
coming
in
is
gonna
be
a
really
great
amenity,
and
I
don't
think
that
it,
I
think
it's
gonna,
feel
more
commercial
on
the
ground
than
it
looks
on
the
site
plan,
especially
since
it's
next
to
popeyes,
which
is
really
busy
all
the
time.
G
So
I
think
I'm
just
really
impressed
to
see
this
project
coming
forward.
We're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
stuff
like
this
coming
to
our
neighborhood.
So
from
my
perspective,
I'm
yeah
I'm
just
really
supportive
of
it
and
like
that
they're
working
with
the
local
community
and
the
local
businesses
as
well.
So
that's
it
thanks.
K
Yeah
mailing,
we
might
move
in
the
portland
a
little
bit
to
the
north.
I
just
wanted
to
see
the
broader
you
guys
should
see
the
broadly
side,
so
the
setback
on
broadway
could
be
a
zero
lot
line,
but
because
we
we
have
been
talking
to
the
county
because
of
the
vacancy
of
the
alley
and
other
things
to,
and
they
asked
us
to
so
we
had
already
a
setback
of
10
feet
originally
because
we,
this
corner,
is
just
hostile
right.
This
is
not
pedestrian
friendly.
K
Then
the
county
asked
us
to
set
back
a
little
further
because
of
the
potential
light
rail
coming
to
the
the
transits
coming
through
here,
the
blue
line
and
and-
and
I
think
we
once
the
topography
we
designed-
we
came
with
the
typography
conflicts,
two
constraints-
two,
we
set
back
even
further.
So
now
the
setback
is
on
that
side
of.
I
think
it's
about
18,
or
something
like
that.
So
we
are.
K
We
are
creating
that
pedestrian
friendly
environment
on
the
broadway
side,
because
because
it
is
a
very
fast
loud
road-
and
we
are
trying
to
maybe
hopefully
set
a
standards
for
anything
built
on
broadway
that
has
this
brief
breathing
way
and
the
buildings
offer
some
green
spaces
and
and
really
some
if
you're
trying
to
get
broadway
to
be
a
destination,
not
a
pass-through.
We
need
to
do
that
and
we
are
trying
to
set
the
standards
here.
B
Commissioner,
ford.
F
Thank
you.
I
have
a
number
of
questions
and
the
first
one
is:
what
is
the
the
19
parking
spaces?
What
is
that
intended
for?
What
are
they
intended
for.
K
This
could
be
a
mix
of
commercial
tenants
and
residents.
We
understand
there's
no
more
requirements
for
parking
in
minneapolis,
but
we
also
understand
the
marketability
of
it
right.
It's
you
minneapolis,
you
get
pretty
cold
people
still
drive
everywhere,
so
we
are
providing
as
many
as
we
can
without
going
underground,
because
that
would,
as
you
know,
bring
the
project
across
to
over
the
roof.
K
So
we
we
we
had
designed
for
the
with
the
playground
only
asking
for
a
variance
for
three
of
the
parking
styles
back
into
the
alley
and
whatever
we
had,
we
could
find
spots
there.
We
found
it-
and
I
I,
the
drop
off
spots
are-
are
very
strategically
placed
there
for
for
obvious
reasons,
but
then
the
back
on
16
other
spaces
would
be
a
share
between
residents
and
and
some
of
the
tenants.
F
Okay,
thank
you
next
question.
Can
you
can
you
explain
to
me
again
the
reason
for
the
setback
on
the
north
line
of
the
property.
K
K
Also,
we
don't
reduce
the
size
of
the
of
the
commercial
spaces,
which
would
mean
we're
likely
removing
one
of
the
local
business
owners
from
the
building
and
also,
of
course,
which,
which
is
a
very
strong
reason
too,
is
the
economics
of
the
affordable
housing
providing
affordable
housing
in
north
minneapolis
without
much
subsidy
it.
It's
almost
a
magic
here.
F
Okay
and
okay,
I
get
it
and
then
my
last
question
is
you.
This
is
not
a
zoning
issue,
I
understand,
but
you
have
raised
the
issue
of
the
proposed
tenants
and
identified
prose
tenant
proposed
tenants.
What
is
the,
can
you
tell
me
what
the
the
nature
of
those
tenants
are?
Are
they
minority
women,
women-owned
minority-owned
businesses
or
what.
K
You
can
speak
to
at
that
a
little
more,
but
yeah
they're
all
bipolar
two
women
on
it,
but
go
ahead.
Ian.
L
Oh
hello,
yes,
so
the
the
the
tenants
you
have
are
basically
all
the
time.
Well,
three
of
the
tenants
are
determined
at
this
time
we
have
moktob,
who
runs
a
small
little
bar
and
he
lives
in
north.
He
actually
lives
in
dorothy,
lundstrom's
old
house
in
north
minneapolis,
and
he
used
to
work
at
tilia
and
the
bachelor
farmer
in
the
marvel
bar
and
he
lives
in
north
and
so
he's
actually
going
to
be
owning
and
managing
his
own
spot,
which
is
a
great
thing
for
him.
L
We
have
and
then
in
the
front
of
the
building.
We
also
have
ebony
ebony,
actually
owns
a
currently
owns
a
beauty
supply
store,
well
she's
kind
of
virtual
now,
but
she's
good
she's
been
vetted
by
mita.
She'll,
have
a
beauty,
supply
store
and
a
hair
salon
and
barber
shop,
and
the
great
thing
about
this
building
is
that
it's
a
really
the
first,
the
commercial
I
mean
damaris,
did
an
amazing
job
with
this
building.
I
just
can't
say
enough
great
things
about
her
abilities
and
the
this
building.
L
Has
this
beauty
supply
store
with
a
mezzanine
and
the
mezzanine
overlooks
the
rest
of
the
build?
The
rest
of
that
space
and
it's
it's
really
well
structured
for
what
it's
intended
so
you'll
have
a
barber
shop,
a
beauty,
supply
store
and
then
adjacent
to
that.
You
will
also
have
actually
on
will
also
be
a
very
small
coffee
shop
that
we
think
is
going
to
be
owned
at
this
point
by
the
commercial.
L
I
want
to
say
commercial
land,
trust
and
totally
botching
that,
but
it's
the
it's,
that
commercial,
commercial,
land
trust
they'll,
be
taking
that
small
little
coffee
shop
and
putting
it
into
affordable
structure
and
then
on.
The
other
side
of
the
alley
will
be
actually
ebony's.
Mother
sally,
who
runs
a
daycare,
and
so
she
is
currently
has
a
decent
size
daycare,
but
was
was
expanding.
Originally
she
wanted
a
much
larger
expansion
size,
but
we
convinced
her
to
make
it
a
bit
smaller,
so
we
could
fit
her
in
the
building,
so
she
agreed.
L
But
it's
a
it's
a
great
group
of
people
that
are
participating
in
this
and
we
structured
it
so
that
all
of
the
owners
all
of
the
bipark
owners
on
the
first
floor.
First
two
floors
of
this
building
will
own
their
own
space.
We're
conduing
them
out
through
media
media
structured,
the
overall
financing,
so
if
affordable
housing
structuring
is
more
is
fun
enough.
We're
adding
conduit
out
units
and
everything
else
into
this,
with
three
lenders
and
and
everything
else.
So
it's
a
really
fun
interesting,
creative
and
imaginative
project
and
I
live
the
whole.
L
I
live
a
whole,
you
know
four
and
a
half
blocks
away.
So
it's
a
it's
a
wonderful,
it's
a
wonderful
structure,
it's
a
wonderful
building
and
we
think
it
is.
It
works
well,
the
way
we've
structured
it
and-
and
we're
just
glad
we're
here
in
front
of
you
today
and
you're,
taking
a
look
at
it.
F
Thank
you.
I
just
one
comment.
I
I
share
commissioner
maya's
opinion
about
this.
I
think
the
particularly
the
setback
on
the
gerard
side.
I
understand
the
the
need
for
that
additional
space
for
for
affordable
housing,
and
I
think
this
is
a
a
great
project
and
I
will
be
supporting.
I
would
recommend
supporting
the
the
two
variances.
E
J
Do
you
mean
what
would
the
impact
be
if
they
were
to
not
comply
or
if
they
were
to
comply.
E
If
we
were
to
give
the
variance
as
requested,
what
would
that
mean
for
the
future
of
the
north,
the
property
on
the
north
side.
J
Yeah
I
see
so
the
whole
property
would
then
be
zoned
c2,
and
then
this
would
remain
r5,
so
there
wouldn't
really
be.
J
Like
it
wouldn't
hinder
the
development
of
that
property,
necessarily
because
it
would
r
it
would
already
be
r5,
so
it'd
be
subject
to
its
own
setback,
regulations
that
are
more
strenuous
than
the
c2,
but
we
feel
that
just
because
it's
currently
a
residentially
used
end
zone
property
but
not
complying
with
the
setback.
You
know
it.
You'd
have
a
very
large
wall
right
next
to
the
house
closer
than
it
would
have
to
be
for
the
zoning
code,
and
I
guess
one
thing
too.
I
didn't
bring
up.
J
Thank
you
for
mentioning
the
setback
on
broadway
damaris,
because
if
it's
set
back
18
feet,
that
would
actually
require
alternative
compliance
to
be
more
than
eight
feet.
J
So
that's
something
that
we
should
also
consider
too,
is
like
we'll
be
analyzing
that
at
the
same
time
as
the
setback
from
the
north,
so
I
I
wouldn't
say
that
it's
like
it's
more
of
the
physical
presence
of
the
building.
It
would
be
our
concern
as
opposed
to
hindering
future
development.
H
Yeah
hi,
I
had
a
question
about
the
commercial
space
just
to
kind
of
understand
a
little
bit
more.
You
mentioned
that
I
think
the
city
of
lakes,
land
trust,
is
condoing
out
that
ground
floor
component,
I'm
more
just
curious
about
kind
of.
Is
that?
H
How
is
that?
How
would
that
I
mean
if
we
don't
improve
this
variance?
Obviously
they've
they're
intending
to
condo
out
this
space.
That
already
exists
where
this
daycare
is
going.
That
would
definitely,
you
know,
affect
the
pro
forma
to
make
that
space
work.
I
just
kind
of
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
the
dynamics
and
the
financing
behind
that.
L
Sure
the
financing
behind
this
project
is
really
fun.
The
that's
that
space
that
you
know
that
the
land
trust
has
never
condo'd
out
a
structure
before
they've
been
really
been
structured
to
do
you
know
small
buildings
here
and
there,
and
this
it's
really
kind
of
exciting.
I
had
a
long
conversation
with
them
about
it
and.
L
Yes,
so
dominique-
and
I
discussed
this
the
other
day-
sorry
I
should
have
missed
mentioned
her
by
name,
and
so
we
were
we
were
discussing
this
and-
and
you
know
the
the
issue
is
that
the
commercial
space
is
for
the
coffee
shop
is
so
small.
It's
you
know
it's
it's
it's
basically
less
than
it's.
It's
was
it
three
four
hundred
and
something
feet
to
mars.
L
I
can't
recall,
but
you
know
the
reality
is
the
space
is
so
small
that
they're
kind
of
trying
to
condo
this
structure
out
as
their
first
kind
of
condo
deal,
and
we
didn't
want
to
give
them
candidly
a
huge
project
to
take
on.
So
this
was
such
a
petite
little
project
that
it
just
kind
of
made
sense
for
them
to
you
know
to
try
it
and
I
think
it
would
work
fairly
well,
ironically,
I
wasn't
even
going
to
go
down
that
road.
L
I
was
looking
for
another
person
to
run
a
coffee
shop
and
we
had
a
long
conversation
with
patricia
fitzgerald
with
hennepin
county
and
she
recommended
it,
and
it
just
kind
of
was
a
great
collaboration
and
we
discussed
it
and
it
seemed
like
a
really
good
fit.
So
we're
very
excited
about
it.
We
think
it
works.
Well.
Coffee
shops,
as
you
know,
make
so
much
money.
So
it
actually
is
a
it's
a
really
good
fit.
We
think
as
much
I
love
sami.
Don't
get
me
wrong.
Sammy's
avenue!
L
L
L
I
mean
everyone,
rents
and
most
of
what
we
have
in
north
is
not
class
a
rental
already,
and
so
the
goal
was
to
provide
that
as
kind
of
the
new
standard
of
how
do
we
structure
these
deals
and
candidly
they're
not
they're,
not
easy
at
all
to
structure,
I
mean
I,
it's
been
so
hard
to
put
this
deal
together
because
everyone
we've
talked
to
doesn't
want
me
to
well
everyone,
a
lot
of
them.
Don't
want
me
to
do
this.
They
don't
want
our
team
to
do
this.
L
They
want
to
do
this
as
a
traditional
rental,
which
is
weird
because
we're
in
this
covid
world,
you
think
more
people
would
think
this
is
creative
to
get
rid
of
that
liability
potentially.
But
it's
been
not
that
way.
So
so
it's
it's
we're
very
excited
about
it.
We
think
it's
great.
The
owners
are
excited
about
it.
L
We're
excited
because
there
may
be
some
money
coming
through
the
main
street
program
which
I'm
not
supposed
to
know
about
yet,
and
that
would
be
wonderful
to
finance
the
finance
and
write
down
the
purchase
price
for
the
conduit
out
of
the
first
floor.
So
we're
very
excited.
H
Thank
you
for
that
clarification.
I
think
this
is
super
cool.
What
you
guys
are
doing.
I
really
applaud
you
for
for
really
coming
up
with
such
an
inventive
structure.
I
love
accessory
commercial
units
and
those
kind
of
smaller
spaces.
I
think
they
really
add
a
lot
of
vibrancy
to
have
more
of
those
those
types
of
spaces.
I
would
just
say
something
about
that.
H
How
the
setback
kind
of
towards
gerard
will
feel
a
little
imposing,
maybe
there's
something
with
landscaping
that
can
be
done
to
make
that
feel
a
little
more
green
or
art
on
that
side
and
make
it
feel
a
little
bit
more
community
than
just
kind
of
that.
You
know
big
building
on
holding
the
corner
would
be
my
my
feedback
on
that,
but
I
know
how
difficult
the
financing
must
have
been
to
come
up
with
a
project.
H
That's
so
inventive
like
this,
and
I
give
you
guys
credit
for
already
having
commercial
tenants,
we've
seen
so
many
kids
come
through,
who
are
building
out
ground
for
retail
space
and
don't
have
tenants
lined
up
for
it
so
and
I
hate
seeing
vacant
retail
space.
So
I
think
the
fact
that
you
already
have
mouss
and
groups
that
are
coming
into
these
spaces
with
an
ownership
model
makes
me
want
to
support
the
variances
that
you've
set
forth.
So
thank
you
for
that.
D
Yeah,
so
I
think
this
is
a
fantastic
project.
I
love
it.
I
too
agree
this,
the
condoing
these
spaces
out
and
is
amazing.
It's
it
has
that
kind
of
co-op
feeling,
but
not
necessarily
because
it's
like
you
own
it-
and
I
guess
my
my
I'm
just
curious
and
first
of
all,
I'm
completely
supportive
of
it,
but
I'm
just
curious
about
the
maintenance
part
of
it.
So
because
people
have
ownership
of
their
own
space
is,
is
there?
D
Are
they
going
to
be
hiring
some
kind
of
maintenance
company
or
someone
to
like
adhere
to?
You
know
cleaning
the
sidewalks,
or
is
that
just
a
city
thing
or
how's
that
gonna
work,
and
I
know
that
may
not
play
a
part
in
whether
or
not
we
whatever
decision
we
make
in
this?
I
just
want
to
know
because
I'm
curious
and
then
the
other
thing
was
the
land.
Trust
absolutely
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
ownership
of
the
condos.
Those
are
literally
owned
by
outright
okay.
D
L
Well,
trellis
management
is
going
to
take
on
the
part
of
our
of
our
of
their
71
units
of
residential.
So
more
than
likely
we're
going
to
be
splitting
some
of
those
fees
between
the
owners
of
the
condo
units
and
the
management
company
that
manages
the
building.
But
candidly,
a
lot
of
that
is
going
to
be
taken
on
by
the
management
build
of
the
of
the
housing
units.
It's
just
it's
just
kind
of
the
way
we've
structured
it
I
mean
to
be.
L
I
don't
know
how
there's
really
no
good
way
of
saying
this,
but
we
we
live
in
a
very
difficult
world
right
now,
where
we've
had
a
lot
of
horrible
things
happen
and
as
a
result
of
that,
some
money
has
flown
into
north
minneapolis
and
other
parts
of
the
city
that
haven't
been
there
before
and
some
of
that
money
that
is
coming
through
the
state
that
is
coming
into
hopefully
into
our
project.
What
we're
really
doing
is
we're
writing
down
the
equity
portion
of
the
purchase
of
the
commercial
space
so,
for
example,
I'm
horrible
at
math.
L
That's
why
I
went
to
law
school
because
I
didn't
know
how
to
do.
Math
and
so
all
lawyers
are
terrible
math.
I
think
I
can't
count
anyway.
My
point
is
that
what
you
do
is,
when
you
add
these
things
up,
if
you
have
ten
thousand
square
feet
of
space
right
and
you're
you're
trying
to
figure
out
what
makes
sense,
you
have
x
dollars
per
square
foot.
So,
let's
just
say
we
were
taking
the
daycare.
These
aren't
the
numbers,
but
I'm
again
terrible
math.
L
If
you
have,
if,
if
sally
had
to
come
to
the
table
with
you
know,
10
percent
of
what
the
actual
build
out
of
the
building
commercial
space
would
be,
and
she
has
to
say
fifty
percent
of
the
building.
She
definitely
says
fifty
percent
of
the
city,
so
the
commercial
space
is
three
million
dollars.
They
are
six
million
dollars.
You
have
to
come
to
the
table
with
three
million
or
30
or
10
percent
of
that
with
an
sba
loan
of
300
000.
L
L
We
don't
know
what
that
will
be
yet,
but
it
won't
be
300
right,
so
so
we're
trying
to
also
take
on
the
cost
and
actually
do
something,
equitable
and
split
the
split
the
cost
between
the
residential
and
the
commercial.
So
that's
equitable
for
everyone.
Does
that
make
sense?
Oh.
D
No,
it
totally
makes
sense.
I
guess
my
only
concern
is
because
those
funds
that
are
coming
from
the
federal
government
are
are
grant
dollars
eventually,
they're,
not
gonna.
I
mean
it's
not.
You
know
what
I
mean.
It's
like
it's,
not
something
that's
gonna
be
regular,
and
so
I
guess
I
was
just
a
little
concerned
about
the
support
that
the
the
businesses
would
have
with
that
heavy
lift.
Maybe
in
the
future
for
maintenance
issues
I
mean
I'm
sure
they'll
be
thriving.
L
Media
has
gone
over
all
the
finances
of
the
of
the
three
other
tenants
of
mo
and
sally
and
ebony,
and
their
cash
flow
from
their
businesses
should
sustain
their
businesses,
particularly
if
they're
not
paying
a
ton
of
money
at
the
beginning
of
the
process
right.
So
we're
not
really
concerned
about
the
maintenance.
We've
we've
put
that
into
our
pro
form,
on
both
the
commercial
side
and
the
residential
side
and
we're
having
baker.
Tilly
crunch,
all
our
numbers
and
we're
working
with
another
group
to
crunch
our
numbers.
E
D
The
killing
of
george
floyd,
all
of
those
things
I
just
wanted
to
ask
the
question
about
other
maintenance
issues,
because
I
wanted
to
but
getting
to
the
materials
the
building
is
beautiful
and
I
really
appreciate
the
color
choices.
I
haven't
like
gotten
a
chance
to
look
super
close
to
see
like
the
texture
or
what
have
you?
D
Maybe
I'm
not
as
connected
to
a
lot
of
those
things,
as
my
other,
my
colleagues
are
because
more
some
of
them
are
better
well
educated
in
those
things,
but
I
love
the
colors
and
it
just
it's
a
it's
a
it's
refreshing
to
see
something
like
this.
It's
not
what
I
was
expecting.
D
K
B
I
like
that
the
bike
parking
is
through
the
alley
that
you
would
access
it
like
a
vehicle,
but
I
would
like
to
see
maybe
another
or
more
bike
racks
for
people
who
are
just
visitors
who
don't
have
access
to
that
bike
storage
facility
and
then
I'd
be
interested
in
what
it
might
look
like
if
you
were
to
take
away
some
parking
to
get
closer
to
those
setback
requirements-
and
those
are
my
only
comments-
oh
but
commissioner
mcguire
it
looks
like
has
one
more.
G
Sorry
thanks,
you
reminded
me
actually
of
what
I
was
thinking
about
when
you
were
talking
about
the
bike
parking
being
in
the
back
and
through
the
alley.
So
one
thing
that
I
hear
from
a
lot
of
women
and
younger
people
is
that
lighting
is
so
important,
especially
in
the
winter
as
it
gets
darker.
So
if
you
guys
could
just
take
a
really
close
look
at
the
lighting
just
to
make
sure
that
you
know
those
areas
that
might
be
behind
the
building
are
well
lit
so
again
like
a
single
mom
or
young
mom.
G
B
All
right
that
was
our
only
item
for
this
evening.
Are
there
any
staff
updates?
J
J
A
Yeah
sure
I'm
happy
to
kind
of
give
a
somewhat
non-answer,
but
hopefully
a
little
bit
more
information.
So
presently
it
is
still
november.
7Th
is
the
expiration
of
the
state
of
emergency.
I'm
the
council.
President
bender,
had
suggested
a
couple
weeks
ago
at
a
committee
the
whole
meeting
that
they
were
likely
to
extend
it
to
the
end
of
the
year.
A
That
hasn't
officially
happened
yet,
but
I'm
I'm
hearing
that
there's
discussion
of
potentially
bringing
something
up
at
tomorrow
morning's
council
meeting,
because
there's
only
two
council
meetings
left,
including
tomorrow's
before
before
that
expires
and
where
you
know
a
lot,
lots
of
departments
across
the
city
are
sending
out
various
public
notices
for
hearings
and
such
happening
before
the
end
of
the
year.
So
there's
some
desire
to
kind
of
get
that
resolved
as
soon
as
possible,
but
nothing
official
yet.
A
But
I
anticipate
it's
likely
to
be
extended
through
it
through
the
end
of
the
year.