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From YouTube: July 7, 2021 Pedestrian Advisory Committee
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A
But
hello,
everybody
and
welcome
to
the
july
7th
2021
full
pedestrian
advisory
committee
meeting,
and
I
just
want
to
notice
that
this
meeting
may
involve
the
remote
participation
by
members,
either
by
telephone
or
other
electronic
means
due
to
the
local
public
health
emergency
of
the
novel
corona
fires
rona
virus
pandemic.
Pursuant
to
the
provisions
of
minnesota
statute,
section
13d,
o21,
okay,
great
first
thing
is
roll
call.
B
C
D
B
E
B
F
B
J
K
A
Thank
you
and
I
think
somebody
seconded
it.
I
know
that
was
something
that
I
also
missed.
Maybe
anyway
again,
if
you
are
not
speaking
as
you
lovingly
mute
yourself,
I
don't
have
that
power.
Next
up
is
the
discussion
where
we
do
introductions
and
we
have
orientation
so
matthew.
L
L
This
is
something
that
we
do
regularly
when
we
have
a
newly
appointed
membership.
It's
an
opportunity
to
get
to
know
each
other.
A
little
bit
understand
how
the
pack
works
and
welcome
new
folks
and
and
the
orientation
is
sort
of
iterative,
and
a
lot
of
it
will
be
sort
of
learning.
As
you
go
for
the
new
members
specifically,
so
I
am
going
to
advance
the
slide
over
the
next.
I
think,
probably
hour.
Maybe
a
little
less
we'll
go
over
these
items.
We're
gonna
have
committee
elections
at
the
end
of
this
process.
L
Hopefully
the
introductions
and
some
of
the
other
other
items
will
give
you
a
little
bit
of
a
chance
to
your
final
thoughts.
If
you
want
to
nominate
yourself
or
others
for
different
officers,
so
let's
get
into
it
with
introductions.
L
So,
the
last
time
we
did
this,
we
we
found
that
lengthy
introductions
took
a
very
long
time
and
was
hard
to,
I
think,
frankly,
hard
for
everyone
to
to
follow
and
stay
energized
for,
and
so
what
we
thought
we
would
do
is
have
the
new
members
take
plenty
of
time
as
much
as
you
want.
That
could
be
a
lot
or
little
but
feel
free
to
take
time
to
introduce
yourself
and
answer
the
questions
on
the
screen,
whichever
all
of
them
or
whichever
one
speaks
to
you.
L
But
what
are
you
looking
forward
to
most
on
the
pack?
What
would
you
like
to
help
achieve?
What
brought
you
to
the
pedestrian
advisory
committee
and
then
favorite
or
least
favorite
place
to
walk
in
minneapolis,
and
why
and
then
returning
members,
maybe
just
more
of
a
traditional
introduction,
share
your
name.
You
know
affiliation,
whether
you're
an
agency
member
or
just
a
in
that
large
pac
member
and
we'll
have
plenty
of
opportunities
for
the
new
folks
to
get
to
know
the
returning
members
as
we
go
as
well.
L
G
F
Okay,
donna
ham,
fourth,
ward:
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
pack
being
able
to
get
back
together
right
now.
That's
my
big
thing.
F
L
Thanks
donna
abigail,
a
chair,
current
chair.
L
C
Hello,
everybody,
my
name
is
austin.
I
live
at
in
the
southeast,
como
neighborhood.
Actually
I
live
in
the
graduate
student
housing.
My
partner
is
in
graduate
school
at
the
university
of
minnesota.
So
that's
why
I'm
here
in
minneapolis,
I'm
looking
forward
the
most
to
just
to
being
more
civically,
involved
and
participating
in
this
group.
I
am
really
into
I
guess:
cities
and
urban
planning
and
development,
and
you
know
being
outside
and
getting
to
know
my
neighborhood.
C
L
Question:
okay,
sorry,
yep,
okay,
I'm
gonna
interrupt
for
just
a
second,
then
I'm
gonna
share
the
screen
again
and
then
new
folks.
If,
if
you
wanna
like
just
jot
down
what
the
questions
are,
then
I'll
get
rid
of
the
screen,
so
we
can
just
see
everybody.
I
think
that
might
be
more
fun.
So
I'll
put
it
up
for
through
the
rest
of
austin's.
C
L
L
M
C
Me
to
the
pack
is,
I
actually
got
an
email,
I
subscribed
to
the
city
of
minneapolis
emails,
and
I
saw
something
mentioned
about
this.
There
were
a
few
different
committees
that
were
looking
for
folks
to
volunteer
on,
and
so
I
signed
up
for
this
one,
because
this
one's
the
most
interested
to
me,
my
favorite
place
to
walk
around
in
the
city
is
definitely
my
neighborhood.
C
C
Least,
favorite
places
to
walk
in
the
city
are
anywhere
like
near
highways,
where
cars
are
going
really
fast
or
things
are
really
noisy.
They
just
are
not
very
pleasant
for
pedestrians
and
so
yeah.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
all
for
having
me
here
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
getting
involved.
L
Thank
you,
austin
barb,
olson,.
I
L
O
L
Great,
thank
you
and
I'll,
just
I'll.
Just
make
a
note
for
the
new
folks
when
sony
said
she's
a
non-voting
member,
so
all
of
the
agency
members
for
the
pack
are
non-voting,
and
so
the
the
appointed
residents,
the
15
appointed
residents,
those
are
the
that
makes
up
the
voting
membership
of
the
pack.
L
D
G
L
I
Hi,
I'm
eric
bauer,
I'm
the
non-voting
representative
for
the
university
of
minnesota.
L
Okay-
and
I
think
we
might
have
some
additional
guests-
which
is
totally
great,
but
sarah
greta.
P
Q
Harmony,
I'm
harmony,
anderson,
I'm
looking
forward
to
participating
in
something
that
I've
never
done
before.
I've
never
done
any
sort
of
civic
type
stuff,
and
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
that.
I'm
a
visually
impaired,
resident
of
minneapolis.
So
I
walk
a
lot
and
I
utilize
the
sidewalks
and
getting
to
and
from
bus
stops
and
train
stations.
Q
Navigating
in
the
winter
is
always
a
challenge
with
a
cni
cane,
so
I
thought
this
would
be
a
great
place
to
maybe
put
some
ideas
to
help
other
people
who
struggle
with
mobility
in
the
city,
and
I
found
the
facebook.
I
found
you
guys
on
facebook,
so
I
got
the
city
of
minneapolis
like
join
a
board,
so
I'm
in
the
in
the
pac
one
spoke
to
me.
My
favorite
place
to
walk
is
my
new
neighborhood.
Q
I
moved
here
last
year
right
at
the
start
of
kovid,
so
doing
getting
a
lot
of
walking
walking
to
lake
hiawatha
and
then
around
nakomis
and
back
to
my
house
least
favorite
is
I
don't
know
anywhere
where
cars
go
too
fast
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
crossing
like
stop
lights
for
crossing
and
stuff,
so
because
I
don't
like
to
cross
without
a
light,
since
I
don't
see
very
well.
So
that's
that's
me
happy
to
be
here.
S
Hello,
I
am
jordan
kosak.
I
am
the
pac
rep
from
hennepin
county,
I'm
also
hennepin
county's,
pedestrian
and
bicycle
coordinator,
and
I
think
I
missed
the
beginning.
Was
it
your
least,
and
most
favorite
places
to
walk
yeah.
S
I
S
L
J
Hi
chris
cartheizer,
he
him
minneapolis
public
works
staff.
I
pay
a
little
extra
attention
to
the
subcommittee,
so
you'll
see
me
around
those
a
little
bit
more
matt.
L
R
M
Muted,
I'm
sorry
suzanne
murphy.
She
her
pac
member
non-voting
on
behalf
of
city
council.
G
I
I've
been
a
returning
pac
member
for
about
10
years,
and
I'm
that's
why
I
don't
know
what
else
I
I
live
in
more.
Where
do
I
live
in
eight
down
by
floyd
square,
and
what
else
do
I
want
to
share
about
myself?
Nothing
because
that's
a
I'm.
A
voting
member.
U
Hi
everybody,
I'm
rayna
urton,
I'm
one
of
the
newbies,
so
I'll
take
a
little
bit
more
of
your
time.
What
I'm
looking
forward
to
most
I
live
and
work.
I
live
in
the
north
loop
and
work
downtown,
so
I
walk
to
work
usually
in
a
non-pandemic
year,
and
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
keeping
the
city
or
making
it
more
walkable
and
friendly
for
our
walkers
and
our
bikers
and
everybody
else
who
moves
throughout
it.
What
brought
me
to
honestly,
because
again,
I
walk
so
much.
U
This
was
like
harmony.
The
committee
that
sort
of
spoke
to
me.
I
really
just
wanted
to
contribute
in
some
way
to
the
city.
I
love
it
here,
I'm
sure
all
of
you
do
too.
So
that
is
what
brought
me
my
favorite
place
to
walk
along.
The
river
is
pretty
much
where
I
am
every
day
and
my
least
favorite
place
to
walk
is
very
specific.
U
It
is
crossing
hennepin
avenue
at
first
street,
I've
been
nearly
hit
by
a
couple
vehicles
so
that
that
was
a
traumatic
experience
but
excited
to
work
with
all
of
you,
thanks
for
having
me.
L
Welcome
heidi.
M
L
W
Hi
mackenzie
turner
bargain.
I
work
for
mndot
in
our
multimodal
planning
group
and
I
won't
be
your
long-term
person
but
filling
in
for
today,
and
then
you
will
hopefully
have
someone
from
our
group
in
the
next.
W
L
E
E
F
F
I
would
just
like
to
make
an
fyi
to
one
of
the
new.
Ladies,
that's
on
the
board.
I
am
totally
blind,
so
you
there's
somebody
along
with
you
there.
This
is
donna
hamp.
L
Great
all
right,
I
will
move
along
in
the
powerpoint,
then
pull
it
back
up
for
everyone.
L
Okay,
so
a
little
bit
about
minneapolis
public
works
again
through
the
introductions.
We
noted
that
the
staff
team
for
the
pac
and
the
bac
or
bicycle
advisory
committee
is
me
milson
and
chris,
and
so
I
sort
of
manage
it
at
a
high
level.
I
guess
and
then
help
run
the
the
full
committee
and
then
millison
is
our
administrative
rock
star.
L
So
she
will
be
the
the
main
point
of
communication
for
for
most
of
of
this,
both
emails
and
setting
the
agenda
sending
that
out
in
a
whole
variety
of
other
things
with
the
clerk's
office
and
then
chris,
like
he
mentioned,
sort
of
runs
the
the
subcommittees
and
coordinates
with
those
co-chairs
and
helps
manage
all
those
details,
and
you
know
like
nelson,
just
a
ton
of
work.
L
So
we
appreciate
that
team,
fun
facts
I'll
just
pull
this
up
real
quick,
but
there
is
a
public
works
website
that
you
can
find
online
through
our
limbs
system.
So
legislative
information,
information
management
system
and
there's
is
it
still
on
there?
So
we
we,
we
changed
our
our
website
recently
and
there's
all
these
fun
facts
like
how
many
traffic
signals
we
had
and
but
that
has
changed
since
I
last
looked
at
it
all
right.
Well,
I
am
somewhat
embarrassed,
but
I
guess
not
too
much.
L
Okay,
we're
just
gonna
move
on
and
move
on
from
that
and
then
so
the
pedestrian
advisory
committee.
The
purpose
of
the
committee
is
to
advise
the
mayor
city
council
and
park
board
on
pedestrian
issues,
and
I
think
that
oh
and
and
public
works
as
a
department
as
well.
L
So
specifically,
the
committee
advises
elected
officials
and
those
organizations,
as
well
as
different
departments
within
the
organizations,
and
you
can
see
some
other
things
on
the
on
the
the
list
there.
One
thing
I
want
to
highlight
that
is
really
important
to
me.
L
I
think
passing
formal
resolutions
that
that
clearly
articulate
your
position
on
a
variety
of
issues
is
really
helpful,
because
it's
something
that
both
leadership
and
public
works
and
leadership
in
the
city
can
view
to
to
understand
what
you
all
are
thinking,
because
those
those
groups
that
I
mentioned
don't
attend
the
committees
don't
watch.
You
know
these.
L
These
recordings,
but
they
all
have
access
to
the
resolution,
so
that's
really
important
and
that's
partly
how
we
as
staff,
communicate
to
our
partners
about
what
you'd
like
to
see
for
walking
the
committee
structure,
as
I
mentioned
briefly.
Excuse
me,
as
I
mentioned
briefly
in
the
introductions,
is
made
up
of
voting
members
and
then
agency
members.
L
So
the
15
appointed
all
at
large
residents
of
the
city
make
up
the
voting
membership
and
when
I
say
at
large,
I'm
I'm.
I
guess,
I'm
specifically
noting
that
the
pedestrian
advisory
committee
doesn't
have
ward
specific
members.
L
We
try
to
have
geographic
balance
across
the
cities
and
across
the
city
in
the
different
sectors
to
the
best
of
our
ability,
but
we
have
a
few
awards
that
don't
have
a
representative
and
then
the
agency
partners.
You
know
they're
not
voting
members
and
their
role
is
to
help
provide
context
and
information
about
what's
going
on
in
the
respective
agencies,
and
I
think
that
has
proven
to
be
a
pretty
cool
and
unique
function
of
the
committee.
L
Not
all
of
the
city's
appointed
boards
and
commissions
have
agency
members,
and
I
just
think
it
adds
so
much
value
because
you
know
sometimes
a
lack
of
information
can
lead
to
like
in
you
know,
inaccurate
assumptions
and
things
like
that,
and
also
the
the
staff
as
you'll
get
to
know.
If
you
haven't
so
far,
they're
really
passionate
about
walking,
and
so
it's
fun
to
have
them
on
the
group
and
then
so.
L
L
There
are
two
and
the
first
one
is
programs
and
policies
and
that
basically
is
sort
of
a
catch-all
for
everything
that
isn't
sort
of
engineering
or
construction
related.
So
it's
policies,
programs,
any
issues
that
the
committee
itself
may
be
interested
in.
That
could
be
going
on
that
impact
walking.
So
it's
a
more
of
a
creative
subcommittee
and
then
infrastructure
engineering
that
is
pretty
specifically
responding
to
construction
projects
that
are
in
a
design
phase.
L
So,
a
few
years
before
streets
are
reconstructed,
they
enter
a
design,
a
conceptual
design
phase
and
we'll
talk
much
more
about
that
for
the
for
the
new
members.
But
basically
you
get
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
how
you
would
like
streets
and
intersections-
and
you
know
other
things
to
look
and
and
so
that's
basically
the
structure,
so
one
full
committee
each
month
and
two
subcommittees
so
for
the
website.
There
are
two
easy
options
to
find
information.
L
So
this
is
basically
the
official
place
for
the
public
to
sort
of
see
what's
going
on
with
all
of
the
different
bodies,
so
city,
council,
boards
and
commissions,
and
a
variety
of
other
things,
and
so
there's
a
calendar
and
the
way
you
find
information
about
the
pac
is
through
that
link
and
then
boards
and
commissions,
and
then
you
can
search
all
the
different
boards
and
commissions
and
we'll
go
down
to
pedestrian
advisory
committee.
And
then
you
can
find
find
the
meetings.
L
And
so
this
is
how
the
the
public
would
be
able
to
participate
in
this
meeting,
for
example,
if
they
would
like
and
then
another
way
is
I
just
google
minneapolis
pedestrian
advisory
committee
and
then
public
works
has
its
own
pedestrian
advisory
committee
page.
That
has
some
more
information
than
is
on
limbs
and
this
this
might
be
more
for
you
all
to
use.
You
can
see
if
there's
different
openings,
there's
packed
bylaws
that
the
committee
has
passed
that
just
you
know
talk
about
the
history,
the
membership,
some
other
things
that
we've
covered.
L
So
that's
another
option
to
to
find
information
and
then
attendance
expectations.
L
I
think
I
covered
this
with
each
of
the
new
members
and
this
may
be
changing
a
little
bit,
but
at
the
moment
we
we
generally
ask
members
to
attend
every
full
committee
that
they
can
and
then
try
to
attend
at
least
one
of
the
two
subcommittees
and
of
course
attendance
is
welcome
at
all
three
meetings.
L
So
just
wanted
to
make
that
note
and
then
finally
we're
going
to
start
getting
into
the
executive
committee
and
then
elections.
So
the
executive
committee
is
made
up
of
these
positions
chair.
Vice
chair
secretary
and
then
co-chairs
for
each
of
the
two
subcommittees
and
collectively
those
positions
I
just
described
plus
staff.
So
me
chris
and
millicent
make
up
the
executive
committee
and
the
main
purpose
of
the
executive
committee
is
to
set
the
agenda
for
the
full
committee,
and
that
is
a
that
is
typically
a
phone
call
or
a
teams.
L
Meeting
on
the
you
know
two
tuesdays
before
the
the
meeting
so
setting
the
agenda
is
an
important
purpose
of
that
and
then
also
just
dealing
with
any
strategic
issues
or,
or
you
know,
hot
topics
that
are
are
going
on
at
the
time.
L
I'm
going
to
go
a
little
further
into
each
of
the
roles,
so
the
chair
is
it
sort
of
broadly
represents
the
pack,
both
strategic
interests
and
the
first
point
of
contact.
That
person
will
take
a
lot
of
calls
from
me.
So
whenever
there's
anything
like
going
on
that,
we
need
to
like
wrestle
with.
I
will.
I
will
call
the
chair
and
we'll
sort
of
deal
with
those
issues.
The
chair
also
often
has
the
opportunity
or
ability
to
delegate
if
there's
different
opportunities
or
coordinate
with
the
executive
committee
on
issues.
L
So
it's
a
very
important
role.
They
all
are,
but
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
chairs,
probably
the
chair
probably
has
the
most
responsibility
outside
of
meetings.
I
would
just
say
that
the
vice
chair
has
two
main
responsibilities.
L
If
the
chair
is
absent
and
then
the
second
is
to
serve
on
the
executive
committee,
which
is
important
as
well
secretary
role
takes
minutes
at
the
full
committee,
saves
them
sends
them
to
staff,
and
then
there
are
again
two
co-chairs
for
each
of
the
subcommittees
and
they
coordinate
with
staff
to
set
the
agenda
of
their
respective
subcommittees
and
then
they
they
chair
the
meeting
as
well,
and
then
they
can
either
take
notes
or
find
somebody
else
to
to
take
the
minutes
I
mean,
and
then
they
provide,
as
you
see
in
a
few
minutes,
they'll
provide
a
verbal
report
to
the
full
committee
on
what
happened
at
their
subcommittee.
L
L
All
right,
no
questions
so
far,
so
this
is
an
opportunity,
then,
for
the
existing
executive
committee,
the
so
the
chair
subcommittee
chairs,
neil
our
secretary
in
our
in
our
vice
chair,
any
any
extra
thoughts
or
comments.
You
want
to
say
about
your
ex
experience
on
the
committee.
A
Sure
hi,
I'm
abigail,
I'm
current
chair
and
matthew.
Thank
you
for
covering
everything
so
well.
I
hope
that
that
was
understood
for
everyone
and
I
would
say
that
those
web
pages
that
matthew
highlighted
specifically
the
page.
That's
the
public
works
like
pac
webpage,
is
really
helpful
because
you
can
actually
go
back
and
read
all
of
our
past
resolutions.
A
For
maybe
like
the
last
year,
you
used
to
have
an
archive
where
they
were
like
three
years,
but
lims
is
different
and
new,
so
that
can
be
really
helpful
if
you're
new,
so
that
you
can
kind
of
know
like
where
we
stand
on
certain
topics,
things
that
we've
seen
and
then
hopefully
you
can
make
subcommittee
meetings.
A
But
if
you
cannot,
it's
really
helpful
to
you,
know
peek
at
the
agenda
and
then
also
when
you
get
the
full
committee
meeting
agenda
like
take
a
look
at
it
and
read
the
minutes
from
the
subcommittee
meetings
in
case
you
weren't
able
to
be
there
in
case
you're
interested
in
anything
just
so
that
when
it
comes
to
resolution
passing
you
kind
of
feel
in
the
know,
because
there
are
some
times
that
we
don't
have
time
to
like
fully
report
out
and
what
we
do
is
just
pass
resolutions.
A
I've
been
cheering
out
for
two
years
personally
and
I
love
working
with
the
exec
committee.
I
love
working
with
the
full
pack.
I
do
find
that,
even
though
I
like
run
the
meetings
here
and
I
talk
to
matthew
a
lot,
the
subcommittee
chairs
really
do
a
lot
of
the
work
and
subcommittees
is
where
the
work
gets
done.
A
So
being
you
know,
an
active
participant
in
the
subcommittee
is
extremely
helpful
and
then
I
would
say
if
you
have
any
questions,
you
can
always
email
me
if
you're
a
new
member
or
a
recently
new
member.
You
know
we
got
three
new
members
in
february.
A
N
Well
I'll
go
next,
I'm
the
I'm
barbara
olson
and
I'm
the
co-chair
of
in
infrastructure
and
engineering.
When
I
started
in
the
pack,
I
thought
this
would
be
the
hardest
committee
for
me,
but
I
actually
just
love
it.
I
love
seeing
about
all
the
new
projects
being
able
to
hear
the
questions
that
pac
members
ask
and
that
I'm
learning
to
ask
understanding
what
kinds
of
elements
go
into
the
design
and
what
limitations
there
are.
N
We
express
sometimes
our
frustrations
that
we
have
to
work
when
we're
building
streets
or
redoing
streets
or
all
the
different
engineering
tasks
that
that
are
presented
to
us
oftentimes.
There
are
several
people
involved:
hennepin
county,
the
department
of
transportation,
the
city
of
minneapolis,
public
works.
Hennepin,
you
know
lots
of
different
people
have
viewpoints
and
have
their
own
rules,
and
that
can
be
really
educational.
I
learn
a
lot
and
I
also
get
frustrated
sometimes
so
it's
I
think
it's
really
one
of
the
most
active
meetings.
We
do
a
lot
of
work.
N
E
If
you
are
interested
in
being
a
co-chair
of
the
committee,
I
should
say:
I'm
I'm
not
because
we're
expecting
a
child
in
october,
which
is
fantastic,
but
it
was
going
to
take
up
some
of
my
time
and
what
I
would
say
is
you
know
if
you
are
involved
in
co-chairing
that
committee,
your
co-chair
will
be
your
partner
in
everything
super
important,
it's
not
possible
to
for
one
person
to
be.
E
T
I
can
give
an
overview
of
pnp,
I'm
peter,
and
I
are
the
co-chairs
of
that
and
we
have
been
for
a
couple
of
years.
T
I
love
both
of
the
subcommittees,
so
I
don't
want
to
sway
you
towards
one
or
the
other,
but
the
nice
thing
about
pnp
is
it's
where
we
kind
of
look
at
some
of
the
bigger
patterns
and
bring
in
the
topics
that
we
were
sort
of
proactive
in
many
ways
while
ine
is
reactive
and
when
we
notice
the
same
kinds
of
problems
coming
up
on
street
design,
we
might
take
that
to
pnp
to
discuss
if
we
should
have
something
that
really
makes
clear
where
our
positions
are.
T
Some
of
the
things
that
we
go
through
are
the
we
do
some
of
recruiting
talking
about
how
to
onboard
new
members
procedural
things
like
helping
agency
presenters
know
what
it
is
important
to
share
and
getting
things
more
standardized.
So
we
can
have
solid
ine
meetings.
We
bring
forward
patterns
of
problems,
usually
sometimes
solutions
from
ind.
T
We
look
at
overarching
policies
like
the
transportation
action
plan,
minneapolis,
2040
and
draft
things
around
our
shared
values
around
what
walkability
looks
like.
We
also
talk
about
things
as
needed,
like
george
floyd
square
and
the
climate
emergency
social
cost
of
carbon,
all
of
those
come
through,
and
we
also
have
people
bringing
in
things
that
might
be
areas
that
they
know
a
lot
about
or
passionate
about
like
alleyways
or
talking
about
highway
on
off-ramps
and
how
those
impact
surrounding
areas
in
terms
of
driver
behavior.
T
So
that's
sort
of
the
overview
of
the
kinds
of
things
that
come
up
and
we
also
sometimes
bring
in
trail
mix
back
when
we
used
to
be
in
person
because
that's
the
free
parking
of
walking,
I
would
say
that
there's
a
little
bit
more
trying
to
foster
conversation
because
it
isn't
the
same
casing.
As
I
e
I
n
e
has
people
come
in
and
present.
T
We're
reacting,
whereas
pnp
we're
we're
trying
to
return
to
things
over
time
and
say:
hey
that
you
know:
we've
brought
up
signalization,
but
we're
still
not
seeing
what
we'd
like
to,
or
whatever
happened
to
this
getting
other
agencies
or
individuals
to
present
on
different
topics.
So
it's
it's
got
a
different
feel,
but
it's
definitely.
T
I
really
appreciate
being
able
to
be
part
of
both
committees
and
especially
pnp,
for
trying
to
shift
those
bigger
policy
pieces
that
are
so
important
in
this
in
terms
of
sharing
it,
I
feel
like
it's
fairly
standard.
It
tends
to
be
a
little
bit
more
laid
back
because
we
don't
have
the
same
number
of
presenters
in
general,
so
there
isn't
and
there
often
isn't
the
same
kind
of
time
crunch.
It's
a
little
bit
more
internal
work
that
goes
on.
T
So,
if
there's
any
questions,
I
don't
know
if
peter
you
have
more
to
add
to
this,
but
also
being
coaches
is
really
fun.
You
get
an
excuse
to
talk
more
about
all
this
with
people,
although
I'm
always
open
for
any
discussion
around
any
of
this.
At
any
point,
I
like
having
more
meetings
about
this.
H
H
Maybe
a
little
more
adverse
advocacy
advocacy
sided
versus
irony
yeah,
not
to
compare
the
two,
but
I
guess
oh
that's
like
the
maybe
the
the
work
that
goes
on
between
meetings
generally
or
frequently,
resolutions
will
come
out
of
either
but
in
terms
of
pnp,
we'll
have
something
in
draft
or
not
even
draft
form
that
needs
to
get
edited
redrafted,
and
you
know
for
proofread
before
it
gets
to
the
full
committee
and
that's
part
of
the
part
of
the
in-between
work.
H
So
it's
so
between
a
monthly
full
committee,
a
full
pack
meeting,
ine
subcommittee,
pmp
subcommittee,
there's
other
hours
that
go.
You
know
or
moments
that
go
in
between
to
to
finish
the
work
and
get
it
ready
for
them
for
the
monthly
meeting,
I'm
the
other,
I'm
the
co-chair
with
julia
pnp
up
to
today,
anyway
and
yeah.
It's
it's
it's
great
work
and
it's
great
it's
it's
always
a
we.
H
We
hear
we
are
great
things
at
those
meetings,
whether
whether
people
come
in
presenting
or
though
especially
when
we
get
more
and
more
pac
members
participating.
H
D
Matthew,
if
I
could
add
something
I
just
want
to
echo
and
underscore
what
has
already
been
said
and
and
state
that
the
development
that
changed
my
tenure
in
the
pack
to
be
the
most
favorable
was
when
I
started
regularly
attending
the
subcommittee
meetings,
both
subcommittee
meetings.
D
It's
there's
just
so
much
more
detail
and
the
option
to
go
back
and
forth
with
the
experts
that
come
in
just
to
to
present
to
us
and
it's
a
huge
opportunity
that
when
unfortunately,
I've
had
a
miss,
I
really
notice
at
the
next
pac
meeting,
because
I'm
just
not
tuned
in
and
and
up
to
speed
with
the
details.
D
R
G
Of
victories
a
lot
of
defeats,
I
will
not
defeat
just
we're
we're
our
job
is
to
push
the
push
the
rest
of
the
city,
especially
the
government,
and
way
further
than
they
want
to
go,
and
we
do
a
real
good
job
at
that,
and
and
they
actually
expect
us
to
be
who
trade,
because
that's
we've
got
lots,
bearing
in
mind
things
like
climate
change,
obviously,
but
just
in
general
I
mean
the
city's,
not
the
city
is
85
percent
car
ownership.
G
That
shows
the
per
the
the
the
way
it's
built
is
built
for
cars
first
pedestrians,
maybe
in
bikes,
who
knows
but
to
get
this
stadium
or
congenial
for
walking.
We
have
to
push
the
agenda
and
we're
expected
to
do
that
anything
outrageously,
nuts
that
you
can
think
of
to
make
pedestrian
better
better
for
pedestrians
is
they'll,
expect
it
so
by
all
means
pitch
in
and,
as
I
say,
we've
won
a
lot.
G
We've
run
a
lot
of
fights
that
we
wouldn't
have
thought
we
would
even
have
a
prayer
of
getting
public
works
to
adopt
and
so
and
it's
fun
to
watch
them
scratch
their
heads
and
see
what
they
can
do
with
some
of
our
outlandish
ideas
and
they
usually
could
naturally
adopt
them.
I'm
going
to
say
too
that
if
you
anything
about
the
pack
throws
you
for
a
loop
and
it
probably
will
next
year
either
I'm
yelling
myself.
I
mean
I
I
can
maybe
explain
stuff
as
well
as
anybody.
G
If
I
think
about
an
answer
long
enough,
but
drop
me
a
line
and
we'll
see
if
we
can
figure
out.
What's
puzzling
you
about
it.
G
Also,
if
you
need
copies
of
old
material
resolutions,
especially
I've
got
them
all
in
my
files,
and
I
can
pull
them
together
for
you
and
it's
interesting
to
see,
resolutions
that
have
been
sent
upstairs
over
and
over
again
on
the
same
issue
in
some
cases,
not
always
because
oftentimes
we
get
to
so
welcome
and
it's
great
to
see
new
people
always
because
it's
fun
to
see
who
actually
signs
up
for
this
gig.
L
Totally
all
right,
I'm
going
to
share
the
powerpoint
again
next,
the
last
part
of
you
know
these
two
items
is
the
will
be
the
actual
process
of
electing
the
officers
for
the
executive
committee
before
we
do
that
any
other.
Any
other
final
questions
or
thoughts
from
anyone,
not
on
the
executive
committee.
L
Alrighty,
so
I
will
kind
of
walk
us
through
this
process
to
start
what
we're
going
to
do
here
for
the
next
little
phases
might
take
a
little
bit
because
we
need
roll
call
votes
for
each
of
these,
but
we're
going
to
elect
an
executive
committee
I'll
do
the
chair
to
start
and
then
once
we
have
a
new
chair
elected
then
we'll
ask
that
chair
with
staff
assistance,
if
needed,
to
run
the
rest
of
the
elections.
L
A
couple
things
I
want
to
say
right
off.
The
start
is,
please
feel
equally
free
to
nominate
yourself
or
somebody
else.
There's
a
ton
of
value
in
people
like
just
simply
making
it
clear
that
you'd
be
interested
in
a
position
and
if
there
are
multiple
people,
you
know
for
a
particular
position.
L
Then
we'll
vote
on
that
and
it's
happened
in
the
past
and
and
I
think
it's
it's
okay,
so
please
again
feel
free
to
nominate
yourself
or
somebody
else.
If
you
think
somebody
else
would
be
good
and
then
also,
I
want
to
also
equally
encourage
folks
that
if
you
do
get
nominated
and
you
just
simply
aren't
interested
or
available
to
serve
in
that
capacity,
also,
please
let
us
know,
because
you
know
we.
I
think
the
group
wants
to
know
that
as
well.
L
Let's
see
is
there
anything
else,
I
think
that's
all
I
have
for
now,
so
I'm
gonna
jump
into
this
process.
So
why
don't
I
go
ahead
and
entertain
nominations
for
the
position
of
chair
and
for
the
new
folks.
The
way
you
would
do
that
is
simply
say
I'd
like
to
nominate
you
know
x
person
for
the
chair
position.
So
do
we
have
a
nomination.
L
B
L
Very
good,
so
we
have
a
nomination
and
a
second
for
abigail
for
chair
at
this
time,
also-
or
I
guess
I'll,
nominate
or
entertain
nominations
for
anybody
else
for
their
chair.
L
Last
chance
all
right,
so
I
will
close
nominations
for
chair.
We
have
one
person,
abigail
or
current
chair.
We
will
go
ahead
and
vote.
Then
milson.
Will
you
please
roll
call.
N
Barb
abigail.
D
B
F
R
P
K
L
Alrighty,
well,
congratulations!
Abigail!
On
another
term
for
yeah
for
a
chair
assuming
you
are,
I
I
you
you
have
the
materials
were
you
comfortable
taking
over
the
rest.
L
A
Great,
I'm
gonna
try
to
follow
robert's
rules
of
order,
as
best
as
I
can
so.
Anyone
please
correct
me
if
I
really
mess
it
up.
I
will
now
entertain
nominations
for
vice
chair.
D
I
am
actually
going
to
throw
my
hat
in
for
co-chair
of
the
engineering
subcommittee
with
aaron,
taking
a
a
familial
leave
of
absence
from
his
co-chair
position
there.
So
that's
what
I
plan
to
do
so
I
would
decline
the
nomination,
but
thank
you.
A
All
right,
we
now
have
a
motion
in
a
second
for
rayna
urton.
I
hope
you
did
you
nailed
it
great
I'll,
now,
close
nominations
for
vice
chair
and
we'll
follow
with
a
simple
voice.
Vote.
N
B
D
R
B
G
K
B
A
Right,
thank
you.
Everybody
yeah
welcome,
welcome,
it'll,
be
fun
for
you,
I
think.
Well,
at
least
I
have
fun
now
up
is
entertaining
nominations
for
secretary.
I
move
to
nominate
neil
baxter.
I
second.
G
Yeah
hold
on
I'm
right
in
the
minute
and
that's
the
only
drawback
if
it's
a
drawback.
No,
I
totally
accept
that,
of
course,.
A
All
right,
we
now
have
a
motion
and
a
second
for
neil
for
the
position
of
secretary
and
I'll
close
the
nominations.
So
we
can
go
voice,
vote,
okay,
erin.
B
K
A
G
D
Again,
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
respectfully
decline
because
I'm
going
to
throw
my
hat
in
for
the
engineering
subcommittee,
the
ine
subcommittee
gotcha.
A
D
D
A
B
A
D
E
A
All
right,
we
now
have
barb
and
christopher
hofer,
motioned
and
second
for
the
positions
of
co-chair
co-chairs.
Any
other
nominations.
R
B
G
K
A
All
right,
exciting
stuff,
we're
not
done
yet
so
now
that
we've
had
elections.
Welcome
everybody
next
up
are
the
subcommittee
reports,
especially
if
you're
new,
you
know
you
kind
of
get
a
glimpse
of
what
happened
in
the
subcommittees
over
june,
so
this
will
kind
of
be
fun
for
you
to
kind
of
see
what
we
did
as
well
as
we're
going
to
be
passing
motions.
I
know
some
of
the
new
members.
A
You
haven't
done
your
oath
yet
so
you
can't
vote
and
because
we're
here
instead
of
just
voice
votes,
we
have
to
do
roll
call
votes
and
so
again
to
remind
everybody.
You
do
the
app
you
have
the
option
of
saying
yes
or
I
no
or
nay,
or
you
can
abstain.
So
those
are
your
three
options
for
voting
based
on
robert's
rules
of
order,
and
we
just
wanted
to
cover
that
and
we
don't
really
follow
it
very
closely,
but
we
try
to
just
make
sure
everybody
that's
how
that
works.
A
We
do
our
best
to
follow
the
rules
of
order
or
whatever.
So
next
up
are
the
infrastructure
and
engineering
subcommittee
report.
Okay,.
N
We
had
three
presentations
for
ina
on
this
on
the
last
meeting
and
the
first
one
was
lindale
avenue
south
they
were
putting
medians
on
25th
avenue
and
27th
avenue,
and
this
one
thing
I
will
tell
you
is
things
come
to
us
at
various
percentage-wise
in
terms
of
their
design
and
readiness
to
build,
and
this
particular
one
was
at
30
percent,
so
it
means
we
probably
won't
see
them
again
unless
there's
some
major
change
once
in
a
while,
very
rarely
they
come
back,
but
generally
at
30
percent.
N
That's
the
last
time
we
see
them
and
we
talked
this
project
will
include
ada,
compliant
ramps,
enhanced
lighting
rrfbs
at
all
four
quadrants
standard
striping.
It
will
stop
about
we'll
we'll
add,
stops
bars,
20
feet
back
from
crossing,
which
is
also
where
buses
will
stop
and
they'll
be
adding
visual
space
for
people
trying
to
cross.
N
There
were
a
lot
of
questions
this
has
been.
This
is
a
really
unsafe
area.
It
has
been
a
really
unsafe
area
on
lindale
avenue,
because
cars
go
really
fast
and
there
weren't
any
reasonable,
is
easy
ways
to
cross.
It
isn't
a
signalized
crossing.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
questions.
Some
of
the
questions
were:
where
would
the
rrf
b's
be,
and
there
will
be
six
at
each
different
flashing
beacons
at
each
intersection,
so
each
intersection
will
have
six
flashing
beacons.
N
We
also
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
median
cuts
like
how
will
bikes
cross
and
they
will
be
going
through
the
pedestrian
walkway
when
they
come
to
the
medians
rather
than
going
into
the
streets,
so
they'll
use
the
pedestrian
walkway.
We
had
a
little
concern
about
that,
but
that
is
according
to
the
presentation,
a
standard
thing
we
also
they
also
met
had
previously
met
with
the
bac
and
bac
had
some
similar
questions
about
actuated
buttons
push
buttons
and
crossing
bicyclists
will
be
able
to
cross
on
the
marked
cross
block.
N
That's
what
I
said,
I'm
trying
to
think.
If
there
were
any
other
questions.
I
think
that's
about
it's
I
think
we're.
We
were
pleased
with
the
fact
that
there
are
medians
there,
because
it
is,
it
will
make
it
a
little
bit
safer,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
continue
to
ask
them
to
do
is
to
revisit
reducing
it
to
three
from
four
to
three
travel
lanes
and
also
doing
some
more
work
on
reducing
speeds.
N
Minneapolis
has
set
25
miles
per
hour
on
many
many
streets,
and
we
would
certainly
like
to
see
that
on
lindeau
we
do
have
a
resolution
and
abigail.
Do
you
want
me
to
read
the
resolution
now?
Okay,
here
it
is
okay.
N
The
pedestrian
advisory
committee
supports
the
proposed
medians
on
lindale
avenue,
south
at
west,
50th,
25th
and
west
and
27th
street,
to
particularly
to
partially
ameliorate
risks
to
pedestrians
crossing
this
wide
fast
street.
We
ask
that
a
solution
be
added
to
alert
right-turning
vehicles
from
side
streets
to
the
presence
of
sidewalk
users
to
their
right,
adding
medians
to
glendale
avenue
cells
is
a
stop
gap
measure
that
must
not
delay
or
impede
the
43
travel
lane
conversion
called
for
by
the
pack
and
many
others.
N
We
further
call
on
minneapolis
and
hennepin
county
to
establish
and
use
the
authority
to
design
county
roads
at
the
city-wide
design,
speed
of
not
more
than
25
miles
per
hour.
Are
we
wanting
to
vote
when
we're
all
done?
I
think
we
have
one
more
resolution
or
we
do.
We
want
to
vote
on
individual
resolutions.
R
L
If,
if
we
are
feeling
like
they'll
all
be
fairly
non-controversial
in
terms
of
you
know
you
all
yeah
take
them,
take
them
as
one.
A
N
So
your
second
anybody
who
has
any
edits
can
certainly
offer
them
now.
K
Yes,
I
have
a
suggestion,
so
the
last
sentence
says
we
further
call
on
minneapolis
and
henry
county
to
establish
and
use
the
authority
to
design
county
roads
at
the
city-wide
design.
Speed,
that's
great,
but
we
we'd
also
should
recommend
that
they
should
post
the
speed
at
25
miles
an
hour
also
because
design
speed
and
the
posted
speed
is
different.
N
H
If
we,
if
we
say
designed
and
established
counter
roads
to
the
city
at
so
and
so
forth,
does
that
not
as
much
as
say
that
we
are
posting
that
25
that
we're
establishing
with
25
miles
per
hour.
L
Can
I
can
I
add
context?
First
of
all,
you
could
say
authority
to
design
and
post
tony
rose
just
simply
there,
but
paul
as
a
as
an
engineer.
I
totally
appreciate
what
you're
saying,
and
I
think
it's
important,
because
design
design
speed
is
sort
of
like
is
functionally
different
than
posted.
I
guess
you
know,
you
know
designing
the
street
for
a
certain
speed
is
like
the
idea
of
like
trying
to
help.
L
You
know
just
inherently
make
or
inherently
have
drivers
go
a
certain
speed
using
design
techniques
and
maybe
paul
as
an
engineer
can
say
that
better
and
then
sometimes
what
you
actually
post,
the
street
doesn't
quite
match
up
to
to
the
observation
of
speed.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
say
that
better
paul,
but
they
are
different
things.
K
Right,
yeah,
matthew,
you're,
pretty
much
right
on
so
yeah
design.
A
design
speed
is
what
the
engineer
or
the
designing
authority
is
using
to
design
the
road,
but
the
posted
speed
is
a
separate
number
or
that
you
know
a
street
can
be
designed
for
30
miles
an
hour,
but
posted
for
25
miles
an
hour
for
example.
So
we
should
make
it
clear.
We
want
the
both
the
design
and
the
posted
speed
to
be
25
miles
an
hour.
N
H
T
My
understanding
is
that
the
design
speed
is
what
matters
the
most
and
that
there's
sometimes
restrictions
in
being
able
to
design
for
roads
where
the
speed
would
be
lower
than
the
posted
speed.
That's
come
up
on
forgetting
the
street
downtown
that
goes
by
the
target
center.
So
maybe
there's
clarification
on
on.
If
those
two
are
directly
like
what
the
relationship
is
between
posted
speed
and
design,
speed
legally.
I
R
L
I
I
just
this
is
important
context
that
was
brought
up
at
the
subcommittee,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
bring
up
here
too,
especially
for
the
newer
folks,
but
currently
the
the
county
does
not
have
the
authority
to
post
at
less
than
30
miles
an
hour.
So
a
part
of
what
may
be
assumed
in
here
whether
we
want
to
directly
say
it
or
not,
is
that
it
would
require
state
like
a
change
in
the
state
statute,
to
give
counties
the
authority
to
change
so
that
happened
with
cities
in
minnesota
in
the
past
year.
L
I
can't
remember
when
but
minneapolis
and
st
paul
and
all
the
cities,
I
guess
in
minnesota,
were
only
recently
given
the
authority
to
go
lower
than
30
miles
an
hour
on
our
streets,
and
so
that's
the
change
that
would
need
to
occur
in
order
for
counties
to
be
able
to
go
lower
as
well
and
then.
Finally,
what
I
want
to
say
is
we
definitely
care
about,
or
we
should
definitely
care
about
design
speed,
because
that
determines
how
wide
things
are
curves.
L
You
know
how
fast
like
curves,
basically
end
up
for
cars
based
on
calculations
of
design,
speed
and
then
really.
The
last
thing
I'll
say
is.
If
you
asked
a
county
or
mndot
to
to
look
at
the
posted
speed
on
the
county,
roads
or
the
minda
highways,
what
they
would
do
is
go
out
and
simply
measure
how
fast
cars
are
going
and
do
some
calculation
and
and
basically
post
at
roughly
how
fast
cars
are
going
right
now.
L
So,
in
a
way,
we
kind
of
care
more
about
design,
speed
than
posted,
and
I
see
mckinsey
posting
something
in
chat
which
I'll
say
shouldn't
do
that.
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
that
to
mackenzie?
If,
if
I
got
that.
W
So
that's,
I
think,
the
the
most
simple
way
to
put
it,
and
so
that
design
speed
is
sort
of
how
you're
you're
setting
the
expectation
with
that
speed
of
what
you
want
people
to
be
operating
at
which
then
influences
obviously
directly
how
safe
and
comfortable
a
space
is
for
people
walking
or
biking.
A
L
That's
a
good
question.
I
I
don't
necessarily
know
because,
like
the
county
staff
was
was
present,
for
that,
so
I
mean
the
the
actual
staff
that
they'll
know
it's
a
good
question.
Maybe
it's
something
that
we
want
to
take
up
in
pmp.
T
I
mean
the
city
like
the
city
of
minneapolis,
did
something
around
the
speed
limit
and
took
it
to
the
state,
along
with
other
entities,
in
order
to
get
that
change
to
allow
20
miles
per
hour
on
some
streets.
So
I
assume
this
would
be.
The
county
has
something
parallel,
and
is
there
a
timeline
for
that,
so
that
we
can
bring
it
up
in
p
and
p.
S
I
do
know
the
answer
to
that
question.
Okay,
right
now,
the
county
does
not
have
the
authority
to
set
speed
limits
on
the
county's
legislative
agenda.
S
I
I
don't
believe
it's
something
that
the
county
desires
at
this
time
there.
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
reasons
for
that,
and
I
don't
know
all
of
them,
but
I
think
part
of
it
is
you
know
we
want
to
be
in
alignment
with
our
other
county
partners
in
the
metro
and
across
the
state.
S
Not
every
county
is
maybe
has
the
same
needs
as
hennepin
county
might
for
wanting
to
lower
speed
limits,
and
I
think
there
are
also
just
other
general,
like
liability
issues,
it's
much
more
comfortable
just
to
say
somebody
else
told
us
to
do
this.
You
know
you
save
yourself
a
lot
of
liability
when
there's
another
authority,
that's
dictating
things
so
and
there's
probably
other
reasons
out
there
as
well,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
it's
not
something
that
the
county
is
pursuing
at
this
time.
N
Fine,
so
I'm
just
not
sure
the
wording
is
is
accurate
in
asking
for
that.
D
I
have
a
suggestion
regarding
that.
Okay,
great,
I
would
consider
changing
the
last
sentence.
It
reads
correctly.
I
think
we
further
call
on
minnesota
and
hennepin
county
and
then
I'd
insert
to
obtain
and
then
delete
to
establish
in
use.
So
it
reads
to
obtain
the
authority
to
design
and
post,
and
then
I
would
insert
for
this
project
at
the
citywide
limit,
if
not
more.
Now.
Obviously
we
wanted
the
length
of
lindale,
but
at
least
I
think
it's
important.
D
The
current
speed
limit
on
lindale
is
simply
too
fast
and
I
don't
think
sherburne
county
should
be
dictating
for
consistency's
sake.
What
a
minneapolis
street
like
lindale
has.
So
I
would
suggest
that
I
think
we
can
just
start
bringing
it
up.
Yeah,
it's
not
going
to
mean
anything
in
this,
but
I
think
it
it's
it's
as
good
as
places
they
need
to
start.
H
Yeah,
I
want
to
add
on
to
that,
if
it's
appropriate,
we
want
to
what
we're
asking
for
in
the
last
sentence
is
not
we
want
them
to.
We
would
like
them
to
obtain
the
authority
system-wide
right,
so
we're
for
city-wide.
You
know
we
don't
throughout
the
system
we
want.
We
want
county
roads
set
to
to
the
city-wide
speed
limit.
H
Is
that
right
for
the?
Are
we
not
would
that
be
appropriate
to
add
that
language
I'm
saying
for
this
project
throughout
throughout
throughout
minneapolis
throughout
their
system.
D
H
E
My
intent
when
drafting
the
language
was
to
be,
you
know,
to
establish
the
general
authority
because
it
comes
up
over
and
over
again
when
we
have
conversations
with
state
or
county
engineers.
A
So
if
we
changed
it
to
minneapolis
and
hennepin
county
to
obtain
the
general
authority
to
design
and
post
and
then
get
rid
of
for
this
project
at
the
city-wide
speed
limit
and
then
again,
it's
kind
of
vague
and
it's
just
kind
of
there
that
we're
like
hey.
Maybe
let's
take
up
this
fight
and
then
we
go
from
there
and
we
do.
We
do
have
multiple
things
we
need
to
get
through
on
this
agenda,
and
this
is
a
sentence
in
a
long
form,
long
discussion
that
probably
should
be
pulled
into
pnp.
A
Now
that
we
know
we
need
to
jumpstart
the
legislative
process
at
the
state
level,
with
hennepin,
county
and
stuff
involved.
Are
we
okay
with
this
particular
resolution
as
it
is
given
the
two
hands?
Just
went
up
and
again
we
have
multiple
things
to
get
throughout
this
thing,
two.
L
Seconds,
oh
sorry,
julia
real,
quick,
two
seconds.
The
reason
that
I
like
this
edition
is
sometimes
like.
It
shows
that
that
you
all
know
that
the
county
doesn't
have
that
authority
and
that's
really
helpful
because
they
might
just
bring
that
up
he's
like
well,
we
don't
even
have
the
authority
it's
like.
Well,
we
know
that
we
should
change
it.
T
T
The
state
request
would
be
for
us
to
be
able
to
set
our
own
lower
maximum
speed
limits,
so
I
assume
that
could
be
20
if
that's
shifted,
for
counties
to
be
able
to
do
just
that
way.
It's
uniform
for
streets
across
the
city,
it
isn't
creating
more
dangerous
streets
on
bus
routes
and
where
people
live.
A
We
are
just
calling
it
the
city-wide
speed
limit
of
not
more
than,
and
that
technically
is
25
miles
per
hour.
So
I
mean,
unless
we're
changing
the
entire
wording
of
that
sentence
to
design
at
post
at
a
new
city-wide
speed
limit
of
num
of
20
miles
per
hour.
Then,
like
that's
another
discussion,.
A
K
N
N
G
A
F
A
N
So
we'll
go
on
I'll,
read
the
rest
of
the
notes,
so
we'll
come
back
to
that
next.
N
The
next
presentation
was
the
mid-block
crossing
on
first
avenue
between
4th
avenue
and
8th
8th
street
before
yeah
4th
avenue
and
8th
avenue
they're
putting
it's
a
super
block.
So
it's
really
long
and
there
isn't
a
very
there.
There
was
no
other
marked
places
to
walk,
so
this
was
they're
providing
a
formal
crossing
along
a
super
block
of
first
avenue
north
without
an
existing
formal
crossing
to
reduce
the
distance
between
pedestrian
crossings
and
meet
vision,
zero
model,
priority
goals.
N
N
N
N
N
We
didn't
support
the
whole
project
at
all,
partly
because
of
the
three
lanes
of
traffic
one-way
traffic,
one
going
one
way
on
university
and
the
other
way
on
first
on
fourth-
and
we
were
very
concerned,
three
lanes
of
traffic
first
of
all
makes
the
streak
very
wide.
It
also
allows
traffic
to
go
very
fast
and
it's
such
a
good
area
for
pedestrian
and
bike
activity.
The
university
is
a
perfect
setting
for
people
to
be
walking
and
biking
and
not
having
to
deal
with
speeding
cars.
N
N
The
pedestrian
advisory
committee
prefers
option
a
that
was
the
option
with
the
two-way
bikeway
on
university
avenue,
but
does
not
approve
either
option
the
decision
to
maintain
three
travel
lanes
in
each
direction.
Contrary
to
pac
and
minneapolis
staff
recommendation
uses
right-of-way
that
could
be
reallocated
for
innovative
pedestrian
and
bike
solutions.
N
This
decision
is
not
suitable
for
a
dense
and
walkable
urban
corridor.
However,
given
the
alternatives,
a
two-way
protected
bikeway
reduces
the
need
for
bicycles,
bicyclists,
to
cross
multiple,
highly
traveled
streets
to
travel
west.
The
city
of
minneapolis
should
withhold
municipal
consent
for
any
design
with
three
travel
lanes.
N
P
L
Just
a
small
thing
that
that
I
think
about
it
before
and
the
committee
generally
agrees
with,
but
would
you
be
okay,
saying-
does
not
support
either
option
instead
of
approve
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
that
the
pac
doesn't
technically
approve
or
deny
things
it's
like.
So,
okay.
A
N
L
I
I
would,
I
would
hope
that
we
would
since
there's
two
options.
I
guess
I'll
ask
jordan
if
you
know,
and
if,
if
not,
could
you
maybe
bring
that
request,
or
you
know
that
that
issue
back
to
the
county
staff.
S
Yeah
yeah,
I
don't
know
100,
but
I
will
say
I
also
run
hennepin
county's
active
transportation
committee.
That's
a
brand
new
committee
name.
I
think
I
mentioned
this
last
time.
It
just
changed
so
now
it
used
to
be
the
bac.
Now,
both
biking,
biking,
walking
and
rolling
are
now
all
under
one
committee
at
hampton
county.
S
Anyway,
the
same
project
came
to
that
committee
and
my
understanding
at
that
meeting
and
my
request
to
the
project
managers
is
that
they
do
come
back
once
they've
selected
one
of
those
options,
so
I
will
carry
that
forward
and
I
think
if
they
come
to
the
hennepin
committee,
they
should
also
be
coming
to
the
minneapolis
ones.
So.
N
Are
we
ready
to
vote?
Those
are
the
three
resolutions
that
we
had
for.
B
B
T
B
N
All
right,
oh
we
had
you
know
what
we
had
one
last
presentation,
I'm
just
looking
down:
glendale
avenue,
media
lindale,
avenue
north
medians-
that
chris
clark
has
represented
so
I'll.
Read
about
that.
There
is
no
resolution
for
that.
However,
this
project
touches
seven
intersections
along
between
22nd
avenue,
north
and
40th
avenue
north
in
in
minneapolis.
This
is
a
project
update
the
design
vehicle
applied
to
the
design
required.
N
A
few
changes
to
the
curb
radar
and
widened
travel
lane
to
the
north
and
south
also
had
to
offset
the
crossing
a
bit
to
accommodate
median
noses.
Julia
curran
asked
the
question:
what
design
vehicle
did
they
use
and
they
used
a
single
unit?
30
foot
truck
a
ups
truck
turning
movement
speeds
are
not
very
fast.
These
these
all
have
stop
signs
on
cross
streets
and
adjustments
are
due
to
turns
from
side
streets
onto
lindale.
N
We
didn't,
I
don't
think
chris
wanted
a
resolution
at
that
time.
I
believe
I
think
he'll
be
back.
Is
that
right?
Chris
you'll
be
back
with
this.
J
No,
this
was
actually
I
had
already
done
a
30.
You
all
gave
a
resolution.
There
was
just.
I
know
the
group
likes
to
hear
about
changes,
posts,
post,
30,
so
came
to
report
back.
A
H
I'm
taking
that
hello
all
this
is
from
programs
and
policies
report
for
our
meeting
in
june.
We
have
one
resolution
we'll
get
to.
In
the
meantime,
a
couple
things
we've
already
covered
new
member
orientation
has
been
dispensed
with
quorum.
We
had
a
quorum
discussion
that
has
been
tabled
for
a
moment.
There's
some.
H
The
the
issue
is
the
city
clerk,
defining
a
pro
dividing
the
number
of
or
describing
the
number
of
people
who
need
to
be
at
a
sub-committee
members
need
to
be
assigned
and
then
appear
at
the
meetings
for
it
to
be
an
official
meeting.
This
is
still
all
being
worked
out.
This
is
for
quorum
purposes
and
we'll
have
more
on
that,
since
we
didn't
have
matthew
at
the
last
meeting
for
the
next
one.
H
The
next
thing
was
new
member
orientation.
I
think
we've
covered
that
new
traffic
signs
on
sidewalks.
I
brought
that,
and
I
talked
about
bringing
a
resolution-
I'm
not
satisfied
that
we're
at
a
point
for
a
resolution,
because
I'm
we're
not
sure
yet
the
issue
being
temporary
signs
placed
during
our
road
construction
season
that
end
up
interfering
with
people
using
the
sidewalk
signs
that
are
too
large
that
belong
in
a
traffic
lane
are
placed
on
the
sidewalk
for
for
whatever
reason
anyway.
H
So
we
start
begin
the
session
of
like.
Why
are
they?
You
know
what?
What?
What
are
the?
What
are
the
rules?
Are
there
rules,
I'm
not
talking
necessarily
about
official
sidewalk
closings,
where
there's
fees
and
permits
and
all
that
stuff
we're
talking
about
the
the
the
advanced
notice
advisory
signs.
H
Construction
ahead
lane
closed
ahead,
this
kind
of
thing
that
that
end
up
end
up
with
people
in
the
way
of
people
using
the
sidewalk,
I'm
hoping
to
get
some
instead
of
a
resolution
where
I
could
just
be
saying-
or
we
could
just
be
saying,
you
know,
obey
the
rules
that
are
there,
we
don't.
We
need
to
we're
gonna
I'd
like
to
have
some
more
discussion
at
pnp.
Perhaps
a
relevant
public
works
person.
Talk
about
the
the
rules
and
the
and
the
remedies
for
for
that
kind
of
thing.
H
Election
of
officers
is
the
next
topic
and
that
has
been
covered
today,
and
so
finally,
we
will
get
to
the
update
from
from
from
george
floyd
square,
which
has
a
resolution
that
has
been
worked
on
in
the
in
the
in
the
in
sense
since
the
program's.
A
policy
subcommittee
meeting.
This
is
in
in
response
to
the
to
the
movement
on
the
part
of
the
city
to
move
cars,
return
cars,
motor
vehicles
to
the
to
that
intersection
and
their
their
approach.
H
We
have
so
we
learned
that
what
the
per
the
press
conference
there's
a
you
know,
it's
all
in
the
minutes,
but
there's
a
three-month
temporary
arrangement
is
what's
described
as
condition
now
or
the
condition
that
they
intended
to
leave
it
when
they
click
when
the
when
the
barriers
were
removed
on
on
june
3rd.
H
So
we're
what
the
the
situation
right
now
is
a
very
dangerous
confused
street
and
we
wrote
a
resolution
to
address
that
and
to
to
direct
back
to
the
city
and
to
city
council
and
the
city
and
public
works,
and
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
read
that
resolution,
and
that
is
for
george
flake
square
and
resolution
reads
as
follows.
H
The
pedestrian
advisory
committee
believes
that
the
city,
along
with
public
works,
acted
in
opposition
to
its
policies
when
it
removed
the
barriers
at
the
memorial
at
38th
in
chicago,
in
order
to
open
the
street
to
through
traffic
opening
the
street
to
traffic
without
including
any
safe
pedestrian
spaces
is
asking
for
a
pedestrian
injury
by
a
moving
car.
The
current
design
of
the
intersection
with
the
memorial
does
not
allow
people
to
safely
move
or
engage
with
this
historic
place.
This
action
defeats
the
policies
of
complete
streets
and
vision,
zero,
specifically
to
establish
and
respect
public
spaces.
H
Next
item:
vibrant
pedestrian
community
spaces
are
what
both
the
transportation
action
plan
and
minneapolis
2040
point
to
as
the
future
of
our
public
spaces.
Removing
our
community
space
in
this
way
is
antithetical
to
how
the
city
and
public
works
should
operate
based
on
its
policies
and
our
collective
future.
As
a
city
we
close.
There
are
many
ways
to
bring
safety,
harmony,
revenue
and
beauty
to
this
place.
That
has
been
a
healing
gathering
space
for
so
many.
H
D
T
I'd
thanks,
I
would
maybe
want
to
add
motorized
or
vehicle
in
the
before
traffic
in
the
first
sentence.
At
the
end,
just
to
clarify
I,
I
know
that
it
is
not
it's
a
space
where
people
are
not
generally
moving
through,
but
I
think
it's
been
one
where
people
can
accept
in
motor
vehicles
until
public
works
forcibly
in
the
dead
of
night
decided
to
prioritize.
T
All
right,
the
the
first
paragraph,
the
second
last
word
so
after
through
maybe
just
motor
vehicle
traffic,
it's
a
little
clunky,
but
I
think
it.
I
would
like
that
clarity,
if
others
are
okay
with
it.
L
A
So
motor
vehicle
through
traffic
yeah
only
because
yeah,
the
the
the
highlight
was
that
prior
to
this
vehicles
could
get
in
and
out
that,
were
you
know,
attending
businesses
like
fire
trucks
always
came
in
and
out,
every
things
could
go
in
and
out
is
just
through.
Traffic
was
not
something
that
occurred,
and,
and
so
that's
the
point,
but
thanks
julia.
I.
T
K
Yeah,
the
last
paragraph
where
the
sentence
where
it
talks
about
we
are
just
disheartened
with
our
colleagues
at
public
works
for
going
along
with
this
plan,
with
my
knowledge
of
working
for
a
city.
You
know
public
works
reports,
the
mayor,
so
I'm
sure
the
mayor
ordered
them
to
go
ahead
and
do
that
work.
K
So
I
hate
to
slam
public
works
folks
for
taking
orders
from
the
mayor
and
going
ahead
and
doing
that.
A
H
We're
discerned
with
the
with
the
actions
and
that
we
are
discerned
with
the
actions.
We
don't
really
know
enough
to
this
really
point
out
point
out
anybody
in
particular,
for
it
so
and.
T
I
think
the
ongoing
actions
is
a
little
clearer
because
the
engagement
they
did
is
part
of
the
problem.
The
continued
I
mean
it
isn't
a
one-time
and
done
thing
that
they're
doing
so.
A
K
How
about
we
just
we
had
the
ongoing
actions
of
the
city
and
public
works?
Okay,.
A
Yeah,
because
I
did
because,
as
we
are
the
pedestrian
advisor
committee,
I
think
the
goal
of
this
was
to
highlight
that
the
city
has
policies
for
transportation,
and
this
was
an
action
like
against
those
policies.
And
so
I
think
you're
right
and
it
wasn't.
Public
works
doesn't
get
to
like
decide
that
when
the
mayor
gets
to
the
silence.
X
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
helpful
to
call
out
whether
transit
is
included
or
not.
I
just
was
reading
this
and
wondering
that
myself.
A
A
Because
there
are
still
like
pinch
points,
I
guess
that's
what
you
like
you'd
say:
neil
right,
there's
still
pin
points
and,
and
so
the
bus
doesn't
go
through,
and
I
don't
know
because
what
we
think
we
know
so
far
is
that
right
now
this
was
like
a
three-month
plan
and
then
there'll
be
like
changes
slowly.
This
was
just
like
stage
one
of
a
phased
plan
and
we
don't
know
it's
so
opaque
that
we
don't
know
the
other
phases
of
the
plan.
X
F
X
Know
those
two
buses
are
still
detoured
as
I
understand,
but
just
whether
transit
is
included
as
like
a
through
motorized
vehicle
or
if
there's
another
way
to
imagine
transit
moving
through
that
space.
I
don't
know,
but
just
just
a
question.
I.
L
K
L
Because
I
understand
what
you're
saying
and
like
you
know
sonia
and
and
I
don't
know
that,
like
I'm,
I'm
wondering
if
the
pack
is
like
you
know,
ready
to
comment
on
the
transit
aspect
or
not.
You
know
but
yeah.
But
it's
a
good
point.
A
And
sony,
if
you
ever
hear
of
like
metro,
transit
stance
on
the
re-route
and
like
that,
has
been
going
for
a
year
and
what
level
of
complaints
have
they
gotten
and
how
is
ridership
changed
and,
like
you
know,
I
we'd
love
to
know
that
info.
If
you
do
have
any
of
it,
so
anytime,
you're
interested
in
having
yourself
or
a
colleague
come
and
talk,
and
also
just
give
our
general
metro
transit
update.
We
would
welcome
that
yeah
that.
X
Is
thank
you
for
that
invitation.
I
will
do
a
little
research
and
see
if
maybe
steve
wants
to
come
join,
but
at
a
high
level
I
know
the
detour
like
adds
minutes
as
most
detours
do,
which
translate
fits
into
dollars
and
operating
costs.
I
actually
don't
know
if,
like
riders,
have
been
complaining
or
or
prefer
the
detour,
so
I
will
find
out
more.
H
The
memo
we
saw
today
from
metro
transit
included
said
through
september.
I
don't
know
if
that's
final,
but
it
would
be
at
least
at
least
into
september.
G
Yeah,
the
message
on
the
the
buses
is
pretty
funny
because
it
does
say
it's
a
federal
mandate,
which
means
great
good
old
congress
has
to
unpass
it,
which
will
never
happen
because
they
don't
ride
our
buses.
But
it
sounds
like
they're
they're
they're,
proposing
that
the
federal
government
mandates
detours
on
all
metro
transit
lines,
which
is
not
what
they're
saying,
but.
Q
I
just
want
to
say
I'm
a
bus
rider
and
I
actually
live
on
38th,
so
I
ride
the
23..
Q
I
don't
mind
the
detour
by
the
way,
but
the
five
I
noticed
the
other
day
when
we
were
driving
around
they
are
already
starting
to
work
on
that
rapid
transit
line.
That's
going
to
be
running
through
so
I
don't
know
how
they
would
fit
the
detour
in
with
that.
So
my
guess
is
that
that
is
going
to
be
open
to
bus
traffic,
because
that
5
goes
right
through
right
down
chicago.
N
G
Say:
son:
here's
a
suggestion.
G
Of
course,
but
I
would
prefer
for
the
buses
that
only
people
who
take
the
bus
were
asked
their
opinion
about
the
bus,
for
the
obvious
reason
that
the
85
of
the
people
in
the
city
who
drive,
of
course,
don't
give
a
damn
one
way
or
the
other.
G
Exactly
they,
they
love
the
bus
when
they
have
to
wait
for
the
driver
to
put
a
wheelchair
under
instead.
But
it
would
be
great.
There's
been
all
kinds
of
surveys
in
the
neighborhood,
and
I
know
from
talking
to
my
fellow
activists
at
30th
floyd
square,
I'm
literally
the
only
one
who
hasn't
had
who
wants
to
see
buses
going
through
there
and
I'm
literally.
J
J
G
Q
G
H
V
B
B
Okay,
donna,
yes,
julia,
yes,
matthew.
R
B
R
G
H
H
Terrific,
okay
and
that
completes
pnp
business
for
our
june
meeting
thanks
one
and
all.
A
All
right
so
two
packed
meetings
last
month
next
up,
then,
is
announcements.
L
I
have
a
fairly
interesting
update,
a
general
update
that
so
the
city
council,
mayor
and
city
council
extended
the
local
declaration
of
public
health
emergency
through
september
30th
of
2021.
I
think
the
state
ended
theirs,
but
the
city
has
the
authority.
I
think
that's
how
it
works.
L
So
basically
that
extends
a
lot
of
the
same
emergency
regulations
that
were
enacted
over
the
past
year
due
to
kovid
and
one
of
those
is
you
know
everything
that
led
to
this
online
remote
platform
and
all
the
things
that
we've
been
dealing
with
are
related
to
it.
L
So
there's
a
general
heads
up
that
that
there's
sort
of
an
expectation
or
a
an
assumption,
or
maybe
a
plan
to
return
a
phased
return
to
in-person
meetings
sometime
fairly
soon
and
the
big
question
is
going
to
be:
will
there
be
a
a
hybrid
option
available,
meaning
we'll
definitely
have
the
in-person
piece
and
the
question
is:
will
it
be
a
100
like
in-person,
only
no
remote
option,
or
could
there
be
a
remote
option
and
it's
actually
very
complicated
based
on
state
statute?
L
What
is
required
for
that
and
I
believe
it
would.
It
would
just
require
the
city
to
invest
in
some
technology
and
training,
and
things
like
that
so
more
to
come,
but
I
would
imagine
just
just
maybe
start
thinking
that
you
know
sometime
after
labor
day,
we
may
be
transitioning,
we'll
probably
at
some
point
in
the
fall
be
transitioning
to
in
person
so
more
to
come
on.
That.
T
About
the
air
exchange
rates
within
the
rooms,
we're
in
so
that
we
know
what
the
what
precautions
are
being
taken
for
airborne
illnesses.
T
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to,
since
we
have
a
little
bit
of
time.
Let
people
know
that
especially
new
members
and
reminding
everyone
that
a
lot
of
the
work
that
we
do
comes
from
the
observations
that
you
have.
What
you
hear
from
people,
what
you
notice
on
your
walks,
the
patterns
you
see
and
so
feel
really
free
to
bring
up
to
any
of
us.
T
I
think
anything
that's
been
bothering
you
for
years
or
that
you
suddenly,
as
you
go
to
these
meetings,
notice
and
wonder
why
it's
a
certain
way,
because
that's
often
things
that
fall
through
the
cracks
and
especially
newer
members,
might
be
the
ones
most
able
to
still
sort
of
see
that
the
system
is
failing
us
in
certain
ways.
So
please
get
all
as
nerdy
and
as
into
this
as
you
want
and
share
it
with
us,
that's
often
where
it
ends
up
being
the
most
relevant
and
there's
nothing.
G
A
Or
if
you
just
ever
talk
to
neil,
do
you
have
an.
R
If
I
speak
one
thing
about
I'll
say
as
a
community.
A
Yeah
thanks
tamir
and
we're
really
happy
to
to
hear
from
you
and
and
see
you
here
and
we
hope
to
see
you
again
soon.
At
the
next
meeting
next
hand,
up
is
peter.
H
Just
real
quick
in
this
parklet
poor
city
lately
there's
a
beautiful
new
one
at
smoking.
The
pit
and
the
turkey
concession
there
at
38th
in
chicago
it's
I'll,
put
a
link
and
an
imager
link
in
the
chat.
Just
for
anybody
who
wants
to
see
it
or
I
can
share
it
on
the
screen.
But
it
looks
great.
It
looks
virtually
like
permanent.
It's
a
with
seating
tables
for
people
eating
there
when
there
was
a
temporary
one.
A
few
years
ago,
was
great
yeah,
so
good
to
see
that.
A
A
T
All
right
have
have
you
shared
information
for
new
members
or
newer
members
to
connect
with
us
if
there's
questions
or
anything.
A
Yes,
I
sent
out
an
email
just
following
matthew's:
welcome,
email
and
again
new
members.
The
slides
that
matthew
shared
at
the
start
of
this
with
orientation
is
available
via
the
lims
link
for
the
agenda.
A
If
you
haven't
gotten
meeting
invites
or
the
agenda
through
the
limbs
process
consult
with
millicent
about
that
and
she
can
walk
you
through
the
process
and
then
in
the
agenda.
You
can
find
all
that
information
which
then
again,
as
matthew,
had
has
links
to
everything
that
you
might
want
or
need,
and
then
I
think,
on
certain
emails,
you
get
you
get
all
of
our
email
addresses,
so
you
should
have
the
list
of
email
addresses
of
all
pac
members
and
pack
membership.
A
But
if
you
do
need
to
reach
out
to
someone
specific,
you
can
just
reach
out
to
anyone
on
public
works
staff
or
to
myself
and
just
ask
like
how
do
I
get
in
touch
with
julia
and
peter?
I
want
to
know
more
about
p
and
p
and
then
and
then
I'll
just
forward
that
on
to
them
and
make
sure
that
you
guys
can
have
your
chats
and
stuff.
L
I'll
note,
I'm
also
planning
on
sending
a
few
more
links
to
the
to
the
three
new
folks.
There's
a
bit
of
a
you
know,
drinking
from
a
fire
hose
thing
that
I
wanted
to
avoid
so
sort
of
like
easing
in,
but
you
know
things
like
the
transportation
action
plan
and
complete
streets
policy,
and
you
know
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
and
things
like
that.
Yeah,
you
know,
click
we'll
talk
about
what
that
means
later,
but
all
right.
A
And
then
one
more
announcement
is
we
don't
think
so
you
we
used
to
be
able
to
have.
A
In
september
we
had
a
full
committee
meeting
where
we
would
actually
just
like
meet
up
at
the
city
hall,
like
like
the
big
outside
space
outside
the
city
hall,
we'd
talk
for
like
10
or
15
minutes
and
pass
all
the
resolutions
in
one
big
swoop,
and
then
we'd
go
on
a
nice
long,
walk
and
go
see
a
construction
project
and
then
usually
we'd
go
out
for
afters
and
like
have
snacks
and
drinks
and
hang
out
together,
changes
to.
Obviously
this
format
changes
to
the
clerk's
office
and
the
things
that
they're
requiring
us.
A
We
don't
know
if
we're
gonna
be
able
to
have
like
an
actual
walking
meeting,
but
we're
gonna
be
figuring
that
out
so
just
stay
tuned
that
in
september,
even
maybe
prior
to
meeting
back
in
person.
We
might
have
some
other
form
of
like
social
time,
whether
it's
during
meeting
time
or
maybe
a
just
like
a
social
activity
just
for
fun
that
we'll
just
invite
everybody
to
for
a
given
evening
for
a
walk
outside
so
stay
tuned.
For
that
is
what
I
would
say.