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Members
present,
thank
you.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
we
do
have
quorum
with
that.
We
will
proceed
to
our
agenda,
a
copy
of
which
was
available
posted
for
public
access
to
the
city's
legislative
information
management
system,
which
is
available
at
lims.minneapolismn.gov.
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Our
first
order
of
business
is
to
adopt
the
agenda
for
this
meeting,
we'll
work
from
the
agendas
that
are
available
online
I'll,
go
through
the
agenda
and
sort
out
what
items
will
be
continued
to
a
future
meeting.
What
items
will
be
discussed
and
what
items
we
put
on
the
consent
agenda
to
be
approved,
as
recommended
by
staff
and
without
further
discussion.
B
So
item
number
four
is
4501,
hiawatha
avenue,
ward
12,
the
landmark
nomination.
This
item
will
be
discussed.
This
is
our
only
item
tonight
so
again:
item
four,
which
is
4501
hiawatha
avenue,
ward
12,
we'll
have
a
staff
presentation,
public
comment,
commission,
discussion
and
action.
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I
will
be
taking
the
speakers
in
the
order
that
they
pre-registered
speakers
will
be
limited
to
two
minutes
after
your
name
is
called
if
you
could
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
then
proceed
to
your
comments
after
we've
completed
the
list
of
pre-registered
speakers
we'll
see
if
there
are
any
other
speakers
in
the
queue
who
may
have
called
in
in
order
to
activate
your
microphone.
Our.
B
With
that,
our
first
item
is
item
number
four,
four,
five
zero
one
hiawatha
avenue
award
12.
This
landmark
nomination
will
be
presented
by
rob
scalecki.
K
K
Today,
I'm
presenting
a
landmark
nomination
for
4501
hiawatha
avenue,
historically
known
as
the
fire
station
number
24
building
the
property
has
been
nominated
by
council
member
andrew
johnson
for
ward
12,
and
the
nomination
is
also
supported
by
council.
Vice
president
andrea
jenkins
of
ward
8.
next
slide,
please.
K
The
city
of
minneapolis
has
since
considered
the
property
to
be
a
potential
historic
resource.
Next
slide,
please
built
in
1907
by
contractors,
hogland
bros
and
likely
designed
by
the
city's
engineering
staff
and
architect
the
two-story
cream,
brick
fire
station
number
24
building
was
said
to
be
one
of
the
finest
stations
in
the
city
at
the
time
near
its
completion.
K
K
Chief
canterbury
believed
that
the
solution
was
to
form
a
segregated
fire
crew
of
men
of
color
and
assign
them
to
the
station,
which
was
the
newest
and
most
remote
and
isolated
fire
station,
and
that
move
was
considered
to
be
a
compromise
at
the
time
to
quoting
him
here.
Keep
peace
in
the
family,
seemingly
referring
to
the
minneapolis
fire
department.
K
According
to
one
of
the
newspaper
articles
as
well,
it
seems
that
the
firehouse
began
to
become
integrated
around
1912,
but
currently
available.
Resources
can't
confirm
at
this
time
the
exact
events
that
led
to
the
subsequent
later
integration
of
the
station
crew.
So
this
topic
should
be
explored
through
a
designation
study
articles
within
star
tribune
records
detail.
The
fire
crew
had
experienced
discriminations
discrimination
and
of
in
their
objections.
K
I'm
sorry
discrimination
and
objections
in
their
formation
within
residential
minnehaha
and
hiawatha
residents,
which
appear
to
have
been
predominantly
white
at
the
time
currently
available.
Historic
newspapers
and
articles
portray
different
and
often
unclear
situations
of
reports
of
either
community
opposition
or
support
for
the
fire
station
number
24
crew
by
white
minneapolitans,
especially
in
1907
at
the
the
building's
construction
date.
K
Complexities
in
the
subjects
in
the
subject,
properties,
relation
to
integration
or
segregation
within
these
institutional
and
community
spaces,
with
greater
association
of
civil
rights
at
the
time
would
be
studied
further
as
part
of
a
designation
study.
Next
slide,
please
record
it
as
one
of
them.
The
historic
integrity
of
the
building
is
windows
and
entries
have
been
changed.
Complexities
and
science
has
been
added
transition,
the
subject
properties,
relationships,
integration
or
the.
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K
K
Determined
first
criteria,
one
of
the
properties
associated
with
significant
events
or
periods
that
exemplify
broad
patterns
of
cultural,
political,
economic
or
social
identity.
The
property
appears
to
hold
significance
in
the
area
of
civil
rights,
of
many
politicians,
of
color
and
advancement
for
employment
and
social
equity
within
institutional
spaces.
K
The
formation
of
an
all
african-american
fire
crew
in
the
early
1900s
to
serve
the
subject
location
appears
to
be
a
significant
event
that
illuminates
the
impact
of
segregation
and
discriminatory
practices
within
these
community
and
institutional
spaces.
This,
of
course,
in
contacts
with
the
events
of
ongoing
advancement
of
people
of
color
in
the
20th
century.
K
The
property
appears
to
be
among
the
best
identified
sites
to
interpret
this
significant
piece
of
minneapolis
history
and
should
be
studied
and
explored
further
in
a
designation
study.
The
property
also
appears
significant
under
criterion
two
for
being
associated
with
the
lives
of
significant
persons
or
groups.
K
Right
records
suggest
that
cheatham
rose
very
through
various
ranks
of
different
engine
companies
to
become
the
captain
of
engine
company
number
13
by
1899.,
cheatham
was
assigned
to
the
engine,
24
crew
and
the
subject
location
as
a
driver,
and
he
was
recorded
serving
here
in
1909
in
city
directories,
though,
it
appears
possible
that
he
was
one
of
the
original
three
members
of
the
fire
station
number
24
team
in
1907..
K
The
building
appears
to
be
the
best
example
of
an
accident
building
associated
with
the
life
and
career
of
john
w
cheatham.
The
property
may
also
hold
significance
for
association
to
other
individuals
of
the
original
fire
engine
company
number
24
team.
So
further
research
about
the
firemen
of
the
station
in
the
early
20th
century
would
be
conducted
in
a
study
and
be
undertaken
in
greater
capacity
through
designation
study.
K
B
I
don't
see
any
questions
at
this
time.
Thanks
rob
with
that,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
for
this
item.
It
sounds
like
councilmember
johnson
is
here
and
would
like
to
speak
as
the
applicant.
E
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
I'm
glad
to
be
here.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
this
and
really
want
to
thank
you
for
having
this
before
us
today.
My
name
is
andrew
johnson.
I'm
the
council,
member
for
ward
12,
the
area
where
fire
station
24
is
located
and
I'd
like
to
share
how
excited
I
am
about
the
opportunity
before
us
to
amplify
the
rich
black
history
of
this
neighborhood
and
our
city
with
my
colleague
council.
Vice
president,
andrea
jenkins.
E
We
are
honored
to
put
forward
the
nomination
for
this
location
for
consideration
as
a
local,
historic
landmark.
I
I
know
he
said,
keep
it
to
this
site,
but
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
mention
the
deep
roots
of
black
history
in
this
area
that
date
back
to
the
mid-1800s
just
blocks
away
at
3600.
Snelling
avenue
stands
the
st
james
ame
church,
which
is
the
first
african-american
congregation
in
not
just
minneapolis
but
minnesota.
E
The
dates
back
prior
to
1860,
and
I
want
to
thank
this
body
for
your
historic
designation
of
the
saint
james
ame
church,
while
st
james
amy
church
has
historic,
statewide
significance.
We
also
have
black
history
in
our
community
in
our
area.
E
It's
of
national
significance
from
1836
to
1840
dred
scott
lived
at
fort
snelling
as
an
enslaved,
african-american,
one
of
dozens
at
the
fort,
and
he
met
his
wife
harriet
there
and
their
two
children
were
pivotal
in
suing
for
their
freedom,
based
on
the
fact
that
they
were
held
as
slaves
in
free
territory
at
fort
snelling
and
other
locations,
and
that
dred
scott
decision
was
a
crystallizing
moment
in
the
abolition,
movement
and
one
that
played
a
key
role
in
the
eventual
abolition
of
slavery
and
then
there's
the
story
of
fire
station
24,
which
deserves
its
place
among
these
other
landmarks
in
our
area,
due
to
the
historic
contribution
of
black
employees
to
our
city
into
our
cities,
in
our
neighborhoods
public
safety
and
the
associated
struggle
for
civil
rights.
E
This
building
housing,
the
only
known
all
african
american
staff
in
the
city's
history
and
home
to
jean
cheatham
believed
to
be
the
first
black
firefighter
in
minneapolis,
is
of
critical
significance,
and
there
are
many
reasons
why
this
site
is
so
important
in
that
history
and
understanding
and
researching
that
history
further
would
really
benefit
all
of
us.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
time
and
for
your
consideration
of
this
nominee.
E
E
A
special
thank
you
as
well
to
judge
lang
for
her
work
and
advocacy
that
helped
bring
us
to
today's
meeting
to
john
bean
for
his
support
as
the
property
owner
in
this
process
and
to
our
incredible
city
staff
for
their
work
and
preparing
this
nomination
and
their
advocacy
as
well.
Thank
you
so
much
commissioners,
I'm
happy
to
stand
for
any
questions.
You
have.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
johnson.
Are
there
any
questions
for
the
council.
B
So
with
that,
I
will
open
this
up
for
anyone
wishing
to
speak
for
or
against
the
application
and
I'll
be
taking
the
list
of
pre-registered
speakers
in
order
and
then
opening
it
up
to
any
other
speakers
who
may
be
in
the
queue
again.
If
you
could
provide
your
name
and
address
before
making
your
comments,
and
when
I
call
your
name,
if
you
could
press
star
six
and
then
wait
to
hear
the
pre-recorded
message
so
that
it
activates
your
microphone
and
we
can
hear
you.
B
I'm
seeing
a
message:
the
first
person
on
the
list
might
not
be
on
the
line
yet
is
lejeune
thomas
lang
on
the
line
currently,
if
so,
if
you
could
press
star.
B
B
Okay,
I'll
move
on
to
the
second
name.
We
can
always
circle
back
is
john
bean
on
the
line.
A
Yeah
hello:
this
is
john
bean
property
owner
at
4501,
hiawatha.
D
A
Hi
there
yeah
just
thank
you
for
letting
me
to
call
in,
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
judge
lang
also
with
her
and
I've
had
some
great
conversations
on
the
history
of
the
building
and
shared
some
documentation,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
very
interesting
process.
A
That's
for
sure
and
and
I've
had
the
building
for
since
1992,
and
I
bought
it
from
the
owners
of
the
original
owners
of
flair
fountains
who
were
moved
in
the
building
in
67
and
they
bought
it
from
hayden
murphy
who
had
it
for
quite
a
few
years.
They
bought
it
from
gopher
equipment
and
I
think
coffee
equipment
bought
it
from
the
city.
So
there's
a
lot
of
history.
There.
A
I've
been
in
the
building
a
long
time
and
and
have
enjoyed
the
building
and-
and
you
know
I
had
my
business
in
there
for
a
long
time
and
I
sold
my
business
and
now
I
have
tenants
in
the
building
and
it's
been
a
really
good
building
and
the
tenants
in
there
really
love
the
building.
Right
now
and
talking
to
my
tenants
and
myself,
we've
discussed
this
and
it's
going
to
be
an
interesting
process
and
we're
all
about
finding
out
the
history
and
and
seeing
where
this
ends
up
and
how
it
goes
with.
A
The
history
of
the
fire
department
and
the
african-american
firefighters
and
with
the
ties
of
the
city,
and
I
know,
judge
lang-
has
expressed
the
interest.
The
fact
that
there's
the
original
horse
barn
is
still
there
and
being
able
to
have
some
ties
with
the
african-american,
firefighters
and
african-americans
in
general.
A
With
horses,
she
apparently
says:
there's
not
a
lot
of
history
of
of
that
in
the
north,
more
more
in
the
south,
so
that'll
be
an
interesting
tie
also
and
all
in
all,
I'm
really
interesting
just
to
see
how
the
process
goes.
A
I
guess
one
thing
I
just
would
really
like
to
just
state
my
displeasure
in
how
this
how
the
city
goes
about
this,
while
I'm
on
board
for
finding
out
the
history
and
going
forward
with
the
with
the
designation
of
the
building
and
everything
the
city
and
and
council
really
has
done
a
poor
job
reaching
out
to
me.
I
had
to
call
them
when
I
found
out
about
this
through
a
reporter
through
a
private
business
owner
that
was
on
a
meeting
with
the
city
about
the
building
and
found
out.
A
I
wasn't
on
the
call
and
wanted
to
know
why
so
they
reached
out
to
me-
and
I
told
them
I
had
never
been
contacted
so
I
reached
out
to
andrew
johnson-
and
I
think
you
know
his
comments
saying
how
happy
he
has
had
me
on
board.
I
don't
know
how
he
knows
that,
because
the
only
conversation
I
had
with
him,
he
told
me
that
I
wasn't
that
the
rumors
were
that
I
wasn't
on
board.
So
I
think
the
process
could
be
you
know
kind
of
improved
upon,
and
the
communication
could
be
a
lot
better.
A
I
mean
andrew
you
live
in
the
neighborhood.
I've
lived
in
the
neighborhood
for
almost
my
whole
life
and
I
own
the
building
and
your
website
says
you
believe
in
transparency,
and
you
want
to
contact
and
have
dialogue
with
your
with
your
neighbors,
and
I
never
heard
from
you.
So
that
being
said,
I
just
had
to
state
that,
and
I
don't
know
how
the
city
could
do
a
better
job
about
that.
A
But
I'm
sure
there's
a
way,
because
I
think
it's
important
that
there's
dialogue
between
a
building
owner
and
when
somebody's
going
to
do
something
with
that
person's
building
and
that
could
be
handled
a
little
different.
I
guess,
but
other
than
that,
I'm
looking
forward
to
see
what
happens
and
where
the
report
goes
and
what
we
find
out
and
how
the
building
can
be
represented
in
the
history
of
minneapolis,
appreciate
your
time
and
hopefully
to
hear
more
soon.
B
The
next
person
on
the
list
is
joseph
waters.
If
you
can
press
star
sex
joseph.
L
Well,
good
afternoon,
I
hope
you
can
hear
me
yep,
oh
okay,
well
good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
commissioner
members,
my
name
is
joseph
waters.
I
live
at
2550
clarence
street
in
maplewood
minnesota,
I'm
with
the
dwayne
taraxa
memorial
memorial
library,
which
is
located
at
firefighters,
hall
of
museum
at
664,
22nd
avenue
northeast
in
2029
minneapolis.
The
minneapolis
fire
department
will
be
celebrating
its
150th
anniversary
and,
with
this
coming
anniversary
anniversary,
designating
this
location
as
a
as
an
historic
site
would
add
to
the
rich
history
of
the
minneapolis
fire
department
and.
L
The
strides
and
accomplishments
of
african-american
firefighters-
not
only
does
this
include
john
cheatham,
as
as
mentioned
earlier,
the
first
african-american
firefighter,
but
this
would
also
include
archie,
spence
james
cannon
and
oscar
clark,
three
african-american
firefighters
assigned
to
the
station
some
other
interesting
facts
about
fire
station
24
fire
station
24
was
the
last
fire
station
to
get
a
motorized
apparatus
within
the
fleet
of
the
minneapolis
fire
department
and
fire
station.
L
24
is
not
listed
in
any
of
the
minneapolis
fire
department
and
reports
dating
back
to
the
early
1900s,
with
station
24,
specifically
being
excluded,
which
kind
of
tells
you
to
the
testament
of
the
racism
at
that
time.
L
Finally,
station
24
would
be
a
great
location
with
this,
with
the
historic
designation
to
talk
about
the
1971
desegregation
order,
the
promotion
of
african-american
firefighters
to
the
various
ranks
within
the
department
and,
finally,
the
promotion
of
alex
jackson
as
the
city's
first
african-american
fire
chief
so
and
all
in
all
this
location
once
it
gets
to,
the
designation
would
really
highlight
many
of
the
accomplishments
of
african-american
firefighters
throughout
the
department's
history.
B
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
I
want
to
check
one
more
time
to
see
if
lejeune
laying
is
on
the
line,
if
you
could
press
star.
B
B
Okay
sounds
like
they're,
not
online.
I
want
to
also
check
then
to
see
if
there
is
anybody
else
who
wished,
who
called
in
who
wished
to
speak
for
against
the
application.
If
there's
anyone
whose
name
I
haven't
called.
B
Okay,
well
with
that,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
start
the
commissioner
discussion.
I
am
really
excited
for
this
property
to
have
it
come
before
us.
I
live
in
ward
12,
so
I'm
particularly
excited
to
see
this
moving
forward
and
I
I
have
really
high
hopes
for
the
research
that
can
be
done
during
this
nomination
process.
B
I
think
there
are
some
really
important
topics
that
we
haven't
delved
into
nearly
enough
in
the
city's
history,
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
property
to
look
at
some
of
those
bigger
concepts,
but
you
know
in
a
specific
property,
so
I'm
very
excited
about
this
commissioners,
I'm
wondering
if
anybody
else
has
any
comments
or
concerns
about
this
application.
C
Hi,
no
concern
just
a
comment,
glad
to
see
that
the
city
is
dedicated
to
bringing
qualified
nominations
forward,
that
you
know
proudly
showcase
the
city's
bipark
history,
so
I
really
encourage
them
to
keep
coming.
I
know
it's
something
that
we
as
a
commissioner
talked
about
over
the
summer
and
it
sounds
like
it
looks
like
maybe
starting
to
trickle
out
and
it's
working
so
glad
to
see
you.
B
H
H
H
I
think
that's
all
going
to
be
part
of
the
study
and
part
of
what's
looked
at
as
what's
historic
to
your
building,
so
I
really
appreciate
your
openness
to
and
willingness
to
participate
and
be
interested
in
the
process,
and
we
hear
you
loud
and
clear
about
communications
we've.
Actually,
you
know,
there's
been
talk
from
the
city
about
how
we
keep
property
owners
of
potentially
historic
resources
more
informed.
H
B
F
Oh
now
you
can
hear
me.
Yes,
okay,
I've
been
having
some
technical
difficulties
with
my
computer,
so
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
what
my
fellow
commissioners
have
already
said.
I'm
really
excited
about
this
nomination.
F
I
think
it's
an
important
story
to
tell
and
learn
more
about.
I
know
some
people
might
have
some
concerns
about
integrity
of
the
building.
I
would
encourage
city
staff
to
really
think
about
whether
or
not
there
are
any
other
buildings
that
can
tell
this
story.
So
if
there
are
concerns
about
integrity
and
do
comparative
analysis
or
something
like
that,
because
I
I
do
believe
it's
an
important
story
to
tell-
and
this
building
seems
to
to
have
sufficient
integrity
to
tell
the
story.
F
K
City
of
minneapolis
by
19
cities
and
rank.
B
H
About
how
we
keep
property
owners
of
potentially
historic
resources,
more
informed,
so
we
hear
you
and
thank
you
for
making
those
comments
and
just
know
that
we
are
trying
to
improve
the
communication
regarding
these
potentially
historic
landscapes.
Thank
you.
Bye.
B
Thank
you
that
would
like
to
comment
on
this
application,
or
perhaps
somebody
who
would
like
to
make
sharing
items
for
this
evening.
Commissioner
howard,
madam
chair,.
L
Yes,
this
is
joe
waters,
sorry
to
interrupt,
even
though
you
just
took
the
vote.
No
now.
B
B
For
public
access
to
the
city's
legislative
information
management
system,
which
is
available
at
li,
I'm
wondering,
if
commissions
or
a
new
commission.
B
M
Receipts
and
wanted
to
discuss
that
with
you,
adam
chair
as
to
when
a.
D
D
M
Start
collecting
votes
for
positions
such
as
the
chair
vice
chair
and
secretary.
B
J
Vote,
please
perfectly
we'll
take
each
agenda
in
order
for
giving
me
their.
K
B
Descriptions
of
the
different
positions
in
the
bylaws,
but
I
think
we
sometimes
send
out
a
link.
D
G
Who
have
worked
on
the
nominations
too
so
that
has
happened.
If
people
are,
you
know
running
again,
but
would
be
able
to
help
that
works
too.
As
far
as
that,
his
past
practice
goes.
Thank
you.
B
That
would
be
great,
and
perhaps
if
we
could
do
a
first
call
for
nominations
by
our
next
meeting
on
march
2nd-
and
we
can
chat
at
that
one
and
make
sure
we
have
enough
nominations
to
move
forward
with
tentatively
voting
on
march
16th.
Does
that
seem
like
enough
time?
Does
anybody
have
a
problem
with
nominating
by
the
second
and
voting
on
the
16th?
What's
that
seem
acceptable.
B
I'm
not
seeing
any
objections
to
that.
So
if
we
could
proceed
with
that
tentative
plan,
like
commissioner
sandbolt
no
and
then
commissioner
vanderag,
what
was
your
announcement.
I
Sorry
I
busted
in
there
in
the
middle
of
a
different
conversation.
I
I
wanted
to
ask
two
questions
of
staff.
Member
burke,
I
think
I
saw
that
we
were
appealed
on
the
mid-century
building
as
well
the
that
came
before
us
a
couple
weeks
back,
and
I
thought
I
saw
a
star
trip
article
that
said
that
the
council
went
back
on
us
on
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
double
check
if
that
was
accurate
and
then
similar
to
that,
I
wanted
to
check
and
see.
I
M
No
thank
you,
commissioner
vanderek.
Thank
you.
I
for
did
forget
to
update
you
on
the
21
washington
avenue
north
or
I
thought
maybe
I
did
but
anyways.
Yes,
the
business
inspections,
housing
and
zoning
committee
did
overturn
hbc's
decision
on
the
21
washington
avenue
north
and
that
didn't
get
approved
for
demolition
at
the
council
level.
So.
I
I
Information
yeah,
so
our
hpc
or
retreat
any
thoughts
on
that
or
have
we
scheduled
that
I.
M
Haven't
scheduled
that
I
know
I
thought
generally
we've
had
kind
of
a
spring
or
we
did.
M
Last
year
we
had
proposed
a
spring
retreat
and
then
everything
got
skewed
due
to
covet
and
nobody
really
knowing
what
was
going
to
happen
in
the
world,
but
I
think
our
last
retreat
was
in
august
and
I
think
we're
yeah.
I
can
work
on
getting
a
time
scheduled
for
a
spring
retreat,
I'm
probably
looking
at
april.
M
I
guess
other
commissioners.
If
you
would
comment
if
something
in
that
range
would
would
work
for
a
spring
retreat
time.
I
Yeah
I
just
I
bring
it
up
simply
because
schedules
are
hard
and-
and
you
know
the
retreat
can
be
a
several
hour
event,
and
so
I
would
per
my
preference
would
be
to
get
it
on
my
calendar.
Have
it
there
and
I
could
plan
around
it.
I
think
the
first
couple
of
years
that
I
was
on
the
commission
it
occurred
in,
may
I
don't
have
a
strong
preference
to
when
it
occurs.
I
More
that
you
know
it's
mid-february
now
makes
sense
to
me
to
try
to
get
it
on
calendars
and
plan
around
it.
So
that
was
my
purpose
in
getting
around
it.
So
I
think
we
can
say
if
you
know,
maybe
we
can
handle
it
via
a
different
conversation,
but
just
to
say
that,
let's
not
forget
about
it,.
B
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
start
flushing
out
some
tentative
dates
for
that.
Commissioner
sandbolt,
you
had
some
announcements
about
the
preservation
awards.
H
H
So
award
winners
will
probably
be
announced
late
this
week
early
next
week
and
then
the
virtual
awards
ceremony
is
thursday
march
18th
at
5
30
pm.
So
please
mark
your
calendars
and
it's
a
free
event,
but
you
need
to
pre-register
so
pre-register
either
on
the
aia,
minnesota
or
the
preserve
minneapolis
website.