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B
Milson,
let
me
know
that
her
she's
froze
frozen
up
so
yeah.
Would
you
like
to
read
that.
A
Let
me
notice
members
of
the
bicycle
advisory
committee
may
participate
remotely
by
telephone
or
other
electronic
means
due
to
the
local
public
health
emergency
novel
coronavirus
pandemic.
Pursuant
to
the
statute,
provisions
of
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
point
zero.
Two
one.
A
That's
the
notice,
welcome
everybody,
so
let's
jump
right
into
introductions,
I
will
start
and
then
I
will
put
in
the
chat
of
the
the
prompts
that
I
shared
earlier,
which
is
name
pronouns.
If
you'd
like
what
your
seat
is,
how
long
you've
been
on
the
bac
and
then,
if
you
want
to
share
a
spot
that
you
like
to
bike,
so
my
name
is
alyssa
schuffman,
I
use
she
her
hers,
pronouns.
A
I
am
the
board
nine
representative
on
the
bicycle
advisory
committee
and,
as
I
mentioned,
the
outgoing
five
east
chair
I
this
is
the
beginning
of
my
third
term
on
the
bac
I've
been
on
the
bac
about
four
years.
I
love
the
bac
and
my
favorite
spot
to
bike
in
minneapolis
at
least,
is
over
to
moon
palace
books,
my
local
bookstore,
the
bookseller.
Will
there
is
the
human
I
have
seen
most
often
besides
the
person
I
live
with
throughout
the
pandemic.
A
C
Hi
there
folks,
I'm
dan
miller
and
I
represent
ward
one
in
northeast
minneapolis,
I'm
a
windham
park
resident
and,
let's
see
I've
been
on
the
bac
about
three
years
and
just
reappointed
and
my
favorite
place
to
ride.
I
seem
to
always
gravitate
to
getting
to
the
river
no
matter
what
route
I
go.
I
wind
up
down
by
the
river
and
running
the
river.
So
that's
it.
D
Okay,
I'm
deanna
newman
and
I
am
brand
new.
This
is
my
very
first
meeting
with
the
bac,
so
I
don't
have
too
much
more
to
share
there.
My
favorite
rides
always
include
food.
If
there's
food
in
it
in
it.
E
Dino,
what
do
you
represent?
Are
you
award
representatives.
D
A
Awesome
thanks
popcorn
to
matthew,
deardahl.
B
Hello,
everyone,
matthew,
doodle
bike
pet
coordinator
in
minneapolis,
public
works,
welcome
to
all
the
new
folks,
and
we
appreciate
the
returning
members
as
well.
I
also
love
the
bac
I've
been
with
the
city
for
five
and
a
half
years.
Something
like
that.
I
really
miss
some
of
my
really
long
weekend
rides
checking
out
projects.
B
A
Thanks
matthew,
samuel.
G
Hello,
my
name
is
samuel
ferg
representing
the
13th
ward.
This
is
my
first
bac
meeting
excited
to
be
a
part
of
this
group
and
I
would
have
to
say
one
of
my
favorite
rides
is.
I
normally
take
from
hopkins
to
eden.
Prairie
honestly,
the
trail
name
is
escaping
me,
but
that's
that's
one
of
my
favorite
ones
and
I'll
normally
the
that
depot
coffee.
I
would
grab
a
cup
of
coffee
on
that
show.
A
Awesome
thanks
millicent.
Do
you
want
to
introduce
yourself.
H
Hi,
I'm
melissa
flowers,
I'm
an
employee
of
minneapolis
public
works,
so
I'm
part
of
the
staff
that
administers
this
body.
I
guess-
and
I've
been
a
part
of
the
bicycle
advisory
committee,
since
I
think
2017.
so
three
years
just
about
I've
learned
a
lot
from
this
group.
This
is
a
great
group.
I
I
enjoy
these
meetings
all
the
time.
So
I
think
my
favorite
place
to
bike
in
minneapolis
now,
since
I
don't
live
in
minneapolis
anymore,
would
probably
be
on
the
midtown
ringway,
because
it's
the
big,
wonderful
straight
shot.
A
Thanks
millicent
janice
you're
up.
E
Okay,
my
name
is
janice
gaepner,
I'm
one
of
the
three
park
board.
Citizen
reps.
I
joined
the
bac.
It's
been
almost
exactly
10
years
ago,
when
so
before
that
I
think
the
bac
the
membership
had
been
more
informal
and
then
ten
years
ago
we
kind
of
tightened
up
the
membership,
one
member
from
every
ward,
three
park
board,
citizen,
reps
and
members
from
many
city
committees,
and
so
I
think
the
new
people
will
notice
that
so
about
half
the
membership.
E
I
think
slightly
over
half
the
membership
are
just
citizen
members
and
and
then
there's
another,
maybe
almost
a
dozen
members
who
are
from
different
city
organizations
and
then
actually,
if
we
were
meeting
in
person
from
their
name
tags,
you
could
tell
you
know
exactly
which
organization
people
were
from.
E
But
I
guess
the
other
thing
I'd
like
to
say
is
that
everybody
has
been
new
at
some
point
on
the
bac,
and
so
when
you
are
new,
you
have
to
make
sure
that
you
ask
questions
and
you're
not
afraid
to
ask
questions
when
the
when,
when
the
shorthand
terms
go,
fly
fast
and
furious,
you
have
to
stop
us
and
say
what
is
what
is
safe
routes
to
schools?
E
What
is
a
click,
and
things
like
that,
so
make
sure
you
ask
questions,
and
I
guess
my
favorite
place
to
ride
is
probably
I'd
have
to
say
the
chain
of
legs.
I
Hello,
everyone-
I
am
jenny
borden,
I
use
she
her
pronouns
and
I
represent
minneapolis
public
schools
on
the
bac
and
I
also
in
minneapolis
so
happy
to
see
my
friend
marty
grimes
here.
So
I
can't
wait
for
you.
I
That's
why
I
kept
my
car,
my
camera
on,
because
I'm
just
like
a
little
more
easier.
I
have
been
on
the
vac.
I
don't
know,
as
some
of
you
guys
were
saying,
I'm
like
well
I'm
longer
than
them.
So
it's
been
a.
I
guess
it's
been
a
while,
maybe
five
or
six
years.
I
just
now
am
feeling
that
I'm
not
new.
So
some
of
some
of.
I
Learning
curve
than
others
and
there's
there's
many
bike
rides.
I
love
I,
I
really
love
the
hiawatha
trail
heading
into
downtown.
I
I
just
think
it's
so
cool
the
train
and
when
the
train
makes
sounds
and
then
the
people
coming
off
and
then
oh,
it
looks
so
beautiful
at
cedar
riverside
and
just
I
think
it's
just
lovely.
I
mean
I
mean
the
downtown
won't
be
one
of
my
favs.
A
Thanks
jenny,
y'all
are
making
me
want
to
get
on
my
bike.
Next
up,
I
think,
is
joey.
K
Hi
I'm
joey
sancher,
I'm
I
use
he
him
pronouns.
I
I'm
brand
new.
I
represent
ward
3
and
my
favorite
bike
ride
is,
I
think,
like
which
I
really
like
the
triangle
of
like
starting
downtown,
going
down
the
river
coming
up
the
greenway
and
then
enjoying
downtown
on
the
cedar
lake
trail,
which
doesn't
you
know,
work
right
now
and
but
we'll
eventually
again
so
yeah.
A
Someday
thanks
joey
next
is
chris.
I
think.
F
Hi
I'm
chris
cartheiser,
I
am
minneapolis
public
works
staff
and
associate
transportation.
Planner
I've
been
here
three
months
or
three
years
this
month
and
working
with
the
bac
and
the
psu
the
whole
time
and
my
favorite
place
to
ride.
F
I
guess
I
have
a
few
different
ones,
but
I
I
like
just
going
out
I'm
not
from
the
twin
cities
originally,
so
I
still
like
kind
of
exploring
new
neighborhoods
and
just
like
if
it's
kind
of
a
leisurely
ride,
just
being
able
to
zig
and
zag
through
different
neighborhoods
and
look
at
new
houses,
neighborhoods
buildings,
things
like
that.
A
Thanks
chris,
let's
see
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
I
differentiate
between
our
presenting
city
staff
and
our
new
folks.
M
Sorry,
everyone
heather
gillick,
I'm
from
the
minneapolis
health
department.
I
have
been
with
the
city
about
two
years
and
a
little
over
a
year
on
the
bac.
I
still
feel
new
in
a
lot
of
spaces
here,
but
really
bringing
the
public
health
approach
and
public
health
perspective
to
this
work.
Around
active
transportation
and
biking
in
particular,
and
my
favorite
place
to
bike
right
now
is
on
my
fat
bike
in
the
woods.
M
If
you
can't
enjoy
fat
biking
in
minnesota,
where
can
you
enjoy
it?
It's
like
riding
a
monster
truck
and
I'm
super
into
it.
A
Thanks
heller
for
that
inspiration
marty,
I
think
you're
up
next.
Okay,.
L
Hi
everybody-
I
am
brand
new,
also
I
work
for
minneapolis
public
schools,
I'm
a
physical
education
teacher
and
I
teach
the
fourth
and
fifth
graders
how
to
bike.
I'm
a
big
fan
of
jim
gordon
and
she's,
someone
that
recruited
me
so
I'll
do
anything
for
her.
That's
legal
and
that's
all
I'm
gonna
say:
oh
my
favorite
place
to
bike.
I
like
going
from
victory
all
the
way
down
to
the
day
mccaska
and
coming
back
so
it's
kind
of
like
my
little
route
and
you
represent
ward
4.
A
It's
amazing
we're
all
big
fans
of
jenny.
Catherine,
I
think,
is.
N
Next,
oh
sorry,
you're
asking
guests
too
right.
I
I
don't
usually
go
by
captain.
I
don't
I
didn't
know
that
was
me.
N
I
didn't
look
at
that
closely,
so
I
didn't
realize
that's
what
it
said.
I'm
kate
maymarsha,
I'm
a
landscape
architect
with
the
minneapolis
park
board.
So
I'm
part
of
the
planning
department
and
I'm
here
tonight,
specifically
kind
of
with
nathan
koster
to
answer
any
questions,
particularly
around
the
upper
house.
A
Awesome
thanks,
let's
see,
I
think,
alex
is
also
here
to
present
and
then
who
else
am
I
missing?
Hillary
is
here
to
present
maya.
J
Oh
yeah
hi
everyone,
I'm
maya
shaikh,
I
represent
ward
11.,
I'm
brand
new
and
I
grew
up
riding
around
nakomis
and
the
lakes.
So
that's
my
favorite
for
like
sentimental
reasons
and
it's
pretty.
A
Awesome
and
then
I
think
our
last
body
member
is
phillip.
O
Oh
yeah
hi
everyone,
philip
music,
representing
ward,
2,
recently
appointed
and
gosh.
You
know
for
probably
25
years.
I
was
commuting
over
along
summit
avenue,
so
that
truly
is
my
favorite.
I'd,
usually
stop
for
a
little
espresso
in
the
morning
at
victoria
and
grand,
but
in
the
last
year
I've
sort
of
left
my
a
position
where
I
really
was
focused
on
complete
streets,
work,
land
use
and
active
transportation.
O
So
I
would
say
now
it's
going,
I'm
just
a
block
and
a
half
from
the
bracket
tunnel,
so
I
I
think,
jumping
on
the
greenway
going
over
to
bryant
avenue
and
then
going
down.
Bryant
meet
up
with
friends
at
50th.
Is
that's
been
my
favorite
ride
recently
last
last
year,.
O
Oh
my
gosh
yeah,
I
mean
I
remember
when
the
greenway
yeah,
it's
been
bubbling
for
many
a
year,
so
it's
really
good.
A
P
Sorry
I
I
snuck
out
of
the
meeting
for
a
second,
because
I
had
to
take
a
call.
There
was
just
a
thing
that
had
to
happen
quickly,
but
my
name
is
wester.
I'm
he
him.
P
P
I've
been
with
the
city
for
five
and
a
half
years
and
on
the
bac
for
four,
and
one
of
my
favorite
biking
spots
is
especially
like
on
a
nice
cool
summer
night,
so
I
live
in
northeast
and
if
I'm
like,
coming
home
from
something,
if
I'm
in
a
hurry,
if
I'm
rushed,
if
biking
is
like
just
utilitarian
transportation,
I'll
like
take
hennepin
or
I'll,
take
third
or
something
just
like
the
quickest
route.
P
But
if
I,
if
I
like,
am
not
in
a
rush,
I'm
just
like
enjoying
biking,
I
always
love
to
just
take
the
slightly
longer
route
across
the
stone
arch
bridge,
just
because
it's
very
picturesque
and
all.
A
Awesome
thanks
wes,
I
think
matthew.
You
have
a
hand
raised.
B
Yeah,
so
real,
quick,
just
a
technical
thing,
there's
another
member
that
will
be
joining
us
very
soon
from
ward
12,
bree
witcraft,
very
excited
for
brie
folks.
I
saw
some
positive
reactions
for
those
that
have
that
know
brie.
So
I'm
excited
for
that
and
then
there's
just
a
technicality.
We
need
to
bring
through
brie
and
and
marty
for
the
formal
process
of
getting
council
approval
in
in
january.
B
Wait,
I
think,
yeah,
I
think
yeah,
I
think
january
still
so,
but
there,
the
council
member,
has
approved
them
on
the
committee.
So
that's
why
they're
joining
us
now,
but
I
just
want
to
give
that
heads
up
that
we
filled
two
more
seats
and
now
we
just
have
ward
10
to
go.
A
A
Okay,
not
hearing
anybody
and
not
seeing
any
raised
hands
except
for
matthews
which
just
went
down
so
thanks
everybody
for
spending
a
few
minutes
introducing
yourself,
I'm
really
excited
to
work
with
you
to
continue
to
make
minneapolis
a
great
place
to
walk
and
bike,
and
at
5es
we
do
things
generally,
pretty
informally,
we'll
have
our
presenters
go
through
a
project
and
then
we'll
have
some
discussion
afterward
about
what
do
we
think?
Do
we
wanna
pass
a
motion
or
comment
on
the
project
in
some
way
formally
as
a
body?
A
If
we
decide
we
wanna
do
that,
we
would
then
bring
a
motion
to
the
full
committee
meeting
at
the
end
of
the
month,
but
typically
we're
a
little
more
discussion
based
at
the
subcommittees.
This
is
a
pretty
big
group
today,
which
is
really
exciting,
so
it
might
make
discussion
a
little
unwieldy,
but
luckily
we
only
have
one
formal
thing
on
the
agenda
today.
Q
Hey
everyone
I'll,
kick
it
off
thanks!
So
much
for
the
introduction.
My
name
is
alexander
kato.
I'm
a
transportation
planner
in
public
works.
I
use
heat
him
pronouns,
so
we
have
about
30
minutes
to
talk
to
you
all
about
upper
harbor.
It's
just
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping
there's.
Actually
two
parts
to
this
presentation.
Q
Hillary
holmes
is
gonna,
go
first
she's
gonna
talk
about
the
overall
coordinated
plan,
which
is,
I
would
say,
a
much
more
comprehensive
effort
by
the
city
that
she's
been
very
involved
within,
leading
that
talks
about
land
use
touches
on
infrastructure
touches
on
the
park
touches
on
a
lot
of
pieces.
Q
That
piece
is
up
for
public
comment
right
now.
We
actually
have
an
open
house
later
on
tonight.
So
hillary's
going
to
be
on
for
about
15
minutes.
She's
going
to
talk
about
that
piece.
She's
going
to
answer
questions
and
she's
going
to
hop
off
to
go
lead
the
open
house,
then
me
and
nathan
are
going
to
talk
about
the
public
realm
and
infrastructure
piece.
We're
not
asking
for
motions
at
this
meeting,
we're
just
kind
of
giving
you
a
high
level
overview.
Q
We
are
coming
back
to
the
pac
and
bac
in
about
two
weeks
to
the
engineered
subcommittees
to
talk
about
the
more
nuanced
bike
and
pad
design
infrastructure
pieces,
but
we
still
wanted
to
come
to
this
larger
body
and
just
give
you
a
high
level
overview
of
what's
going
on
for
this
really
large
project
I'll
transition
to
hillary,
to
let
her
speak
because
she
has
a
really
tight
window
before
going
to
leave
the
open
house
hillary.
Take
it
away.
Please.
R
Good
evening
everybody
it's
nice
to
see
you
all
and
virtually
meet
most
of
you.
I
have
a
presentation
to
share.
So
if
that's
okay,
I
have
it
queued
up
and
I
can
start
sharing
it.
If
that's
if
I
can
get
a
thumbs
up,
maybe
for
matt
or
someone
else,
okay,
thanks.
R
Okay,
I
have
a
pdf,
and
so
it
is
relatively
brief.
It's
again
just
to
give
you
an
overview
of
where
we've
been
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
R
Since
the
city
council
approved
the
concept
plan
for
the
upper
harbor
redevelopment,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what
what
a
concept
plan
is,
what
a
coordinated
plan
is
what's
out
right
now
and
what's
happening
so
for
those
of
you
who
may
not
be
familiar,
the
upper
harbor
terminal
is
a
city-owned
site
that
totals
about
48
acres
in
north
minneapolis
on
the
mississippi
river,
it's
generally
between
dowling
avenue
and
north
of
lowry
avenue.
R
R
Over
the
past
five
years,
this
redevelopment
planning
effort
has
been
underway.
The,
as
you
may
recall,
or
know,
the
lock
was
closed
to
barge
traffic,
and
I
believe
that
closure
was
effective
in
2015,
with
barging
operations
ceasing
in
2014,
so
the
upper
harbor
terminal
site
had
operated
as
a
barge
shipping
terminal.
R
It
is
still
an
active
site
with
outdoor
uses,
but
the
barge
operations
are
no
longer
on
site,
so
in
2015
that
kicked
off
the
first
phase
of
engagement
around
redevelopment
planning,
and
that
was-
and
I
also
want
to
note,
since
we
have
kate
on
the
call
and
part
of
the
presentation
that
in
2015,
the
city
and
the
park
board
began
working
together
on
redevelopment
planning
and
engagement
around
the
future
of
the
upper
harvard
terminal
site.
R
So
the
first
couple
of
years
were
spent
to
engagement
around
visioning
and
issuing
a
request
for
qualifications
for
a
master
developer,
that
selection
of
the
master
developer,
and
then
that
led
us
into
2018
and
2019,
where
engagement
was
focused
on
land
uses
and
the
concept
plan.
There
is
a
lot
of
information
on
the
project
website.
I
also
want
to
note
around
previous
and
current
engagement
project
website.
R
Just
went
under
a
big
well
a
bit.
I
mean
a
relatively
sizable,
let's
say,
update
around
the
release
of
the
draft
coordinated
plan.
So
it's
a
good
resource
has
a
lot
of
information
on
it.
So
again,
this
kind
of
a
concept
plan
being
general
land
uses
boundaries,
helping
determine
what,
where
future
roadways
would
be,
because
there's
a
parkway
involved,
a
new
parkway,
also
where
the
development
parcels
would
be
where
the
park
boundaries
would
be
and
general
land
uses.
R
The
city
council
approved
that
concept
plan
in
march
of
2019
around
that
time
may
have
been
what
maybe
the
last
time
that
cped
was
in
front
of
either
the
bac
or
the
pac
around
this
project.
Then
that
was
when
the
concept
plan
was
out
for
public
comment
and
engagement.
R
My
colleague,
ann
calvert
in
cped,
had
been
working
or
has
been
working
on
the
site
for
many
years
on
this
project
for
many
years,
and
so
she
was
in
the
lead
at
that
time,
and
I
also
just
wanted
to
note
that
I've
been
with
the
city
for
two
years
and
working
on
this
project
and
I
also
serve
as
staff
to
the
city's
advisory
committee.
The
upper
harbour
terminal
clever
planning
committee,
which
was
formed
when
the
concept
or
the
council
approved
the
concept
plan
in
march
2019..
R
The
reason
the
cpc
was
created.
Sorry,
the
cpc
never
to
get
confused
with
the
city
planning
commission
is
that
we
really
needed
to
do
a
deeper
work
to
refine
the
concept
plan
into
the
coordinated
plan.
There
were
revisions
made
to
the
concept
plan
through
community
process
and
input
and
council
as
well,
and
so
throughout
the
last
year
and
a
half
the
uhg
cpc,
the
city
team,
the
development
team,
the
park
board
have
worked
together
to
refine
the
create
and
refine
the
coordinated
plan.
R
There's
also
been
concurrent
community
engagement,
events,
convened
by
the
public
policy
project
and
environmental
justice
coordinating
council
with
support
from
pillsbury
united
communities
called
the
learning
tables
and
so
kind
of
together.
The
npr
vcac,
the
uhdcpc
and
the
learning
tables
have
helped
create
this
plan
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
as
you're
probably
familiar
we're
all
meeting
online
these
days
and
transition
to
that
over
the
summer-
and
you
know,
there's
been
any
number
of
meetings
multiple
a
month
for
the
uhcbc.
R
R
I
won't
spend
time
on
this
slide,
discussing
it
I'll
make
sure
that
you
have
access
to
the
pre
this
presentation.
This
is
a
snapshot
of
what
we've
heard
from
the
learning
tables
and
upper
harbor
turmoil,
clever
planning
committee.
R
This
was
an
early
kind
of
compilation
of
some
of
the
things
we've
been
hearing
through
the
community
engagement
and
work
at
the
cpc
and
helped
continue
to
build
a
foundation
for
the
coordinated
plan.
Again,
I
had
mentioned
the
difference
between
these
two
plans.
These
aren't
typical
planning
documents
that
we
have
in
the
city
due
to
the
size,
scope,
nature
of
complexity
of
this
project.
R
They
were
outlined
in
the
exclusive
negotiating
rights
agreement
between
the
city
and
united
properties,
who's,
a
master
developer
and
nprb
as
kind
of
milestones
or
check-in
points,
and
so
this
will
be
yet
another
important
milestone
in
the
planning
process
when
it
goes
to
council
early
this
year.
Now
that
we're
in
2021.
R
here
is
a
snapshot
of
some
updated
renderings
they're
illustrative
renderings,
but
I
think
it's
it's
been
very
helpful
to
provide
some
new
visions
for
the
site
from
its
current
and
existing
functions,
and
especially
since
it
had
been
a
while
that
renderings
had
been
released
closer
to
the
concept
plan
and
some
things
have
changed.
A
number
of
things
has
changed,
and
so
is
nice
to
have
something
fresh
to
look
at
that's
more
reflective
of
where
the
plan
is
at.
R
This
is
a
a
brief
description
of
what's
proposed
in
the
plan.
I
would
like
to
note
that
you
know
again
the
the
new
park
space
riverfront
park
and
trails
that
has
remained
and
that's
a
very
important
part
of
the
plan.
I
also
wanted
to
note
that
one
major
change
has
been
the
proposal
to
retain
public
ownership
of
the
majority
of
the
land,
the
exception
being
land.
That's
underneath
the
community
performing
arts
center
and
there's
more
information
about
that
in
the
draft
plan.
R
So
this
would
be
conveyed
through
grant
long-term
financial
ground
leases
for
private
development.
The
park
land
will
still
go
be
conveyed
to
the
park
board.
The
city
would
retain
public
ownership
of
the
land,
the
majority
of
sorry,
the
rest
of
the
private
development
parcels
and
then
the
city
would
retain,
of
course,
ownership
of
the
right-of-way.
R
There
is
a
mix
of
uses
proposed
in
the
plan,
which
is
similar
to
the
concept
plan,
but
a
lot
more
refinement
to
what
those
uses
are.
The
programming
for
those
the
phasing
as
well,
and
so
we
can
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
phasing
as
we
continue.
This
is
an
overview
of
both
phases
of
proposed
development,
and
this
is
from
the
draft
concept
plan.
R
Sorry
draft
coordinator
plan
and
as
you'll
see,
dowling
avenue,
I'll
kind
of
gesture
with
my
my
arrow
or
cursor
dowling
avenue,
dowling
bridge
is
ends
up
close
more
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
screen
and
so
you'll
be
that's
kind
of
north
is
oriented
down
towards
the
bottom
right
hand.
Side
of
the
screen
with
the
proposed
parkway
alignment,
the
consolidated
park
space,
the
different
private
development
extending
to
the
south
and
again
the
southern
border
of
the
site,
is
actually
33rd
avenue,
north
and
so
the
public
works.
R
Colleagues
will
be
speaking
more
about
infrastructure
improvements.
What
they
are,
what
the
phasing
is,
so
this
is
again
just
kind
of
a
snapshot
of
what's
proposed.
We
are,
of
course,
at
a
massing
stage,
there's
a
bit
more
process
to
go
through
for
each
individual
development
beyond
the
coordinated
plan,
the
site
plan,
approvals,
land
use
approvals
and
design.
So
again,
this
is
hopefully
a
good
snapshot
for
you.
R
R
There
is
or
actually
sorry
about
that.
Oh
we
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
actual
events
on
the
next
page,
but
this
is
more
about
kind
of
a
look
at
next
year:
kind
of
high
level
look
at
next
year.
R
R
Assuming
that
the
city
council
approves
the
draft
coordinate
plan
to
make
it
the
coordinated
plan,
what
is
also
be
happening
in
2021
and
starting
this
month
is
the
environmental
review
process,
which
is
an
alternate
alternative
urban
area-wide
review
and
then
also
the
coordinated
plan.
The
next
steps,
after
that
also
include
term
sheets
and
redevelopment
agreements
for
the
individual
phase.
One
developments
phase
two
would
also
be
addressed
through
exclusive
negotiating
rights
and
then
engagement,
of
course,
on
public
realm
and
again
I'll
defer
to
alexander
and
nathan.
R
If
nathan
is
going
to
participate
in
more
information
about
that,
this
is
a
glimpse
at
what
we've
been
doing
over
the
last
couple
of
months
and
through
the
rest
of
the
public
comment
period
in
january,
around
ways
we've
been
getting.
The
word
out,
I
just
gonna.
Take
a
quick
glance
down
here,
looks
like
a
couple
of
events
are
not
specified
on
this
list,
and
so
I
would
like
to
refer
you
to
the
project
website
events
calendar
that
has
everything
on
it.
R
There
are
a
couple
of
things
happening
this
week
and
next
week
on
here
we
note
the
mckinley
community
is
hosting
its
third
online
conversation
on
sunday
january
10th,
city,
open
house,
of
course
again
being
tonight
at
five,
and
then
you
rock
and
the
public
policy
project
in
the
city
are
co-hosting
an
online
conversation
this
saturday
at
11am,
and
then
there
are
a
couple
of
other
events.
R
Next
week,
or
maybe
just
one
we're
doing
a
update
kind
of
project
update
as
very
similar
to
this
at
the
marshall
terrace
neighborhood,
so
we've
been
doing
those
types
of
updates
as
well.
R
A
Questions
thanks
hilary
for
that
overview.
Folks,
if
you
have
questions,
feel
free
to
use
the
raised
hand
function
or
if
that
doesn't
appear
on
your
screen.
You're
welcome
to
just
take
yourself
off
mute
dan
miller.
I
think
I
saw
a
raised
hand
for
you.
C
Yeah
hello:
are
there
any
dates
when
actually
there'll
be
ground
proposed
dates
for
breaking
ground.
R
The
phase
one,
oh
I
see
alexander,
was
gonna
pop
in
phase.
One
infrastructure
would
be
the
first
thing
to
break
ground,
and
that
was
is
anticipated
to
be
towards
the
end
of
2022..
C
A
You,
phillip,
phillip,
do
you
go
by
phillip
or
phil.
O
You
know
either,
but
philip
usually,
but
feels
good.
So
just
quick
question
are
there:
it
looks
like
there's
space
there
geometries
for
generous
planning
for
bike
ped
facilities,
but
are
there
any
sort
of
financial
constraints
or
sort
of
geometry
constraints?
Or
just
is
this
a?
O
Is
this
a
pretty
straightforward
integration
into
the
existing
bike?
Ped
route.
Q
Yeah,
phillip
or
phil,
I
can
answer
that
question
and
I'm
gonna
do
a
presentation
actually
right
when
hillary's
done
to
kind
of
highlight
some
of
that,
but
I
would
say
overall,
it
is
a
very
constrained
right
away.
There's
a
lot
of
competing
interests.
Q
So
I
think
you'll
be
excited
with
what
we
have,
but
it's
definitely
a
challenge
to
fit
it
all.
In.
Q
Does
anyone
have
any
non-infrastructure
questions
for
hillary?
I
know
she
has
to
leave
soon
and
asked.
We
still
have
a
another
presentation
to
share
with
you
all.
A
Thanks
alex
this
is
alyssa.
I
don't
have
a
question.
I've
read
through
a
large
portion
of
the
draft
coordinated
plan.
I
think
there's
a
lot
in
there
to
be
really
excited
about,
which
is
really
great.
Seeing
some
of
that
some
of
that
stuff
come
to
fruition.
There's
some
specific
things.
I
think
we
as
a
committee
would
be
very
supportive
of
in
terms
of
commitments
around
accessible
bike,
pad
connections,
the
work,
the
possibility
of
doing
a
non-motorized
bridge
across
I-94.
There's
there's
a
lot
of
really
great
stuff
in
there.
A
I
do
think
their
one
glaring
glaring
thing
in
the
plan
for
me
is
the
proposed
420
stall
parking
ramp.
So
we'll
probably
have
a
larger
discussion
later
as
a
committee
about
whether
or
not
we
want
to
comment
on
the
way
that
parking
will
incentivize
people
to
drive
to
the
site
rather
than
walk
bike
or
use
transit,
but
I
don't
think
we
need
to
have
that
before
hillary
leaves
so.
R
All
you
know,
city
staff,
of
course,
have
have
my
email
address,
but
I
can
drop
it
in
the
chat
too.
If
that's
helpful.
So
if
you
have
questions,
don't
be
afraid
to
reach
out.
A
Minute,
I'm
not
seeing
anything
hillary,
you
have
any
other
closing
thoughts
for
us,
otherwise
we
will
thank
you
for
your
your
time.
It
sounds
like
you
have
a
very
very
busy
day,
so
we
appreciate
you
squeezing
us
in
between
things
and
bringing
us
this
update.
I
think
this
was
really
great
comprehensive
overview,
especially
for
folks
who
are
just
getting
tuned
into
the
project
and
the
committee
right
now.
Q
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
thanks
again
hillary
I'm
gonna,
take
over
for
the
next
part
of
the
presentation
and
share
my
screen,
and
so
I
have
to
just
be
cognizant
that
this
is
for,
for
some
of
you
all
your
first
bic
meeting,
so
I
hope
I
hope
we
leave
a
good
impression
there's
a
lot
of
content
in
upper
harbor.
Q
I
feel
we
could
probably
spend
an
hour
on
each
slide
in
this
presentation,
so
this
is
just
really
high
level,
really
just
giving
you
some
context
for
for
what
we're
taking
on
from
an
infrastructure
standpoint.
Can
everyone
see
my
screen
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
actually
presenting
to
you
all?
Yes,.
Q
Okay,
so
I'm
just
going
to
start
running
through
these
slides,
like
I
said,
we
don't
have
much
time
so
I'll,
keep
it
as
succinct
as
possible
and
really
try
to
give
space
for
questions
at
the
end,
and
so
this
is
the
public
relevant
infrastructure
map.
Q
The
content
in
blue
is
for
phase
one,
and
as
I
go
through
these
things,
keep
in
mind.
My
colleague
nathan
is
on
the
call
as
well
and
then
kate
lammers
from
the
park
board
as
well,
who
we've
been
working
with
a
ton
for
a
lot
of
these
aspects,
so
you
can
ask
any
three
of
us
those
questions
once
I
get
done
with
this
presentation,
but
so
we
have
dalian
avenue
north
we
have
the
parkway
phase
one,
and
then
we
have
33rd
avenue
north,
so
that
in
total
is
about
a
mile
of
infrastructure.
Q
A
mile
doesn't
seem
like
a
lot,
but
if
you
were
to
walk
through
all
of
that
and
just
grasp
that
scale,
it
is
quite
a
bit
of
infrastructure
that
includes
utilities
as
well:
water
sewage.
We
have
electricity
coming
in,
there's,
there's
a
lot
going
on
with
this
project.
Some
of
the
goals
are
obviously
to
provide
transportation
to
within
and
out
of
the
site
and
really
with
the
high.
You
know
priority
on
providing
safe
and
convenient
connections
for
our
cyclists
and
pedestrians.
Q
There
is
obviously
going
to
be
roads.
There
will
be
some
parking,
but
we
really
want
to
prioritize
people
in
having
a
really
pleasant,
riverfront
experience
and
really
just
revitalizing-
or
I
don't
say,
revitalizing,
but
really
just
highlighting
this
section
of
north
minneapolis
along
the
river
and
just
allowing
people
to
really
kind
of
bask.
In
that
experience
with
a
lot
of
really
fun
land
use
amenities
as
well.
Q
So
the
first
part
is
upper
doweling,
that's
from
lindell
to
the
I-94
bridge.
Our
general
proposal
right
now
is
for
a
shared
use.
Path
on
the
south
side
of
the
street.
Dowling
right
now
has
two
bike
lanes,
one
in
each
direction
on
the
north
and
south
side
of
the
street.
They
are
literally
in
the
street
if
you've
walked
bike
or
driven
on
down.
You
know
it's
a
really
high
volume
vehicle
area,
some
folks
may
cycle
on
the
street,
but
I
think
for
the
most
part,
there's
a
bit
of
discomfort.
Q
Just
because
of
such
a
high
vehicle
volume,
so
our
proposal
right
now
is
to
have
a
shared
use
path
on
the
south
side
of
the
street.
That
would
be
with
cyclists
and
pedestrians.
Q
Ideally,
we
like
to
you,
know
separate
the
two,
but
in
a
situation
like
this,
where
we
have
a
very
constrained
right
of
way,
we
felt
that
this
was
the
best
option.
We
also
have
a
boulevard
on
the
north
side
of
the
street,
so
that's
at
a
high
level.
What
upper
darling
will
look
like
and
as
you
as
we
begin
to
transition
to
94
the
I-94
bridge,
a
potential
treatment
that
we're
exploring
would
be
like
this.
Q
This
is
26th
avenue
north,
which
is
about
a
mile
south
of
the
darling
avenue
bridge
for
right
now,
the
bridge
is
not
up
for
reconstruction,
it
has
very
limited
additional
load
capacity,
and
so
a
ballard
protection
like
this
is
something
that
we
could
implement
with
with
really
low
impact
to
the
bridge.
Q
In
the
long
term,
we
will
are
looking
to
explore
having
a
more
robust
option,
but
for
right
now
that
that
does
require
coordination
with
mndot
and
the
the
funds
just
aren't.
In
the
on
the
table
for
the
near
term,
for
that
enhancement,
transitioning
into
lower
dialing-
and
I
realize
I'm
going
through
these
fast-
but
I
just
want
to
give
everyone
a
kind
of
comprehensive
picture
for
lower
dowling.
This
is
a
visualization
visualization
of
how
it
would
look.
Q
This
would
be
a
a
two-way
protector,
two-way
off-street
bike
facility
here
with
a
boulevard
and
a
sidewalk
as
well.
It
would
really
serve
as
a
gateway
entrance
into
the
site,
really
activating
a
lot
of
the
adjacent
land
uses.
This
is
still
an
illustrative
example
of
what
this
space
could
look
like,
but
kind
of
gives
you
an
idea
of
how
the
entry
into
the
site
would
be,
and
if
you
remember
in
the
upper
darling
slides,
the
shared
juice
path
was
also
on
the
south
side
of
the
street.
Q
So
in
theory,
if
you're
on
darling
and
lindell,
I
mean
I'll
just
go
back
a
few
slides.
So
in
theory,
if
you're
up
here
on
your
bike,
you'd
be
able
to
travel
the
entire
way
into
the
site
on
that
side
of
the
street
without
having
to
cross
over.
Obviously,
you'd
have
to
cross
the
intersection
still,
but
you'd
have
a
off-road
bike
facility
for
this
entire
journey
into
the
site
and
the
same
for
a
pedestrian
as
well,
and
then,
when
you
get
into
the
site,
we
have
an
illustrative
example
of
the
parkway.
Q
Q
Also,
scooters
separate
pedestrian
facility,
some
really
nice
green
plantings,
and
this
would
stretch
north
and
south
along
the
parkway
connect
to
some
of
the
land,
uses
the
music
venue
and
then
further
up
north
to
some
of
the
apartment
buildings
and
such
and
and
really
just
like,
I
said,
really
focused
on
providing
that
riverfront
experience
really
focused
on
providing
a
transportation
system
for
those
folks,
biking,
walking,
scootering,
etc.
Q
The
next
infrastructure
piece
is
33rd
avenue
north.
This
is
a
secondary
access
point
to
serve
a
lot
of
the
industrial
land
uses
here
this.
This
treatment
does
cross
several
our
rail
lines
as
well
as
bird
tracks,
so
we'll
have
some
rail
crossings
in
there
as
well,
and
it's
a
it's
a
critical
access
point
for
a
lot
of
those
southern
activities
and
will
connect
and
provide
a
bike
and
head
trail
system
as
well
for
those
familiar
with
33rd.
I
don't.
Q
I
don't,
have
an
existing
photo,
but
there
are
not
even
any
sidewalks
there.
The
road
condition
is
not
in
the
best
of
shape,
so
we
view
this
as
a
really
good
kind
of
secondary
access
point
and
opportunity
to
improve
those
connection
pieces.
Q
We
also
are
working
with
mwmo
the
mississippi
watershed
management
organization
on
providing
either
a
district
or
regional
storm
water
system
to
treat
store,
storm
water
runoff
within
the
set
of
upper
harbor
terminal
and
potentially
beyond
the
upper
upper
harbor
terminal
side.
But
that's
still
up
for
discussion,
but
we're
looking
at
a
variety
of
green
infrastructure,
treatments,
trenches,
trees,
rain
gardens,
etc
to
really
capture
and
treat
and
convey
a
stormwater
runoff
before
it
enters
into
the
mississippi
river.
Q
So
we
are
starting
our
engagement
process
this
week
and
then
moving
into
march.
I
have
a
calendar
on
the
next
page
that
I'll
highlight,
but
really
what
we've
heard
from
engagement-
and
I
think
our
slides
have
kind
of
highlighted
that
is
providing
public
spaces
that
are
inclusive
of
northside
residents,
connecting
the
site
to
the
north
side,
neighborhood,
providing
a
really
strong,
riverfront
oriented
experience
and
then
also
connecting
with
transit
services.
Q
So
I
realize
it
is
a
little
tricky
with
the
coordinated
plan
still
being
in
a
public
comment
period,
and
hillary
talked
about
that
quite
a
bit
as
of
this
month.
We
are
starting
our
engagement
process
on
the
infrastructure
as
well,
so
you
know
great
timing,
I
know
so
we
have
an
open
house,
that's
actually
going
to
be
on
the
26th,
and
then
we
have
another
one
on
march
16th.
So
this
open
house
on
the
26th
is
kind
of
where
we
share
our
10
high
level
designs.
J
Q
And
then
we'll
be
working
through
the
30
layout
and
council
approval
in
the
september
time
frame.
There's
a
lot
of
pieces
to
public
engagement.
We
have
a
website
that
I
can
share
the
link
for
there'll,
be
a
survey
there's
a
wiki
map
where
you
can
provide
commentary
on
the
existing
infrastructure
and
the
intersections
in
the
realm
of
this
project
and
give
us
some
feedback.
Q
S
Thanks
alexander
for
those
who
don't
know
me
nathan
koster
he
him
overall
project
manager
for
public
infrastructure.
The
only
thing
I
I
just
highlight
is
we
aren't.
We
don't
have
concepts
ready
at
this
time.
It's
more
meant
to
be
conceptual
visionary
concepts,
not
so
much
the
inches
and
feet
of
cross
sections
and
layouts.
We
will
be
back
in
two
weeks,
so
we'll
have
a
lot
more
information
to
share.
C
Hello,
alexander
and
nathan,
just
a
comment
about
26th
avenue,
the
overpass
there.
You
know
it's
been
there
about
three
years
and
it's
the
the
the
great
northern
greenway
that
that
whole
trail
system
basically
ends
at
4th
street
north
and
then
it
turns
into
the
overpass,
and
then
it
fades
at
washington.
C
And
second,
it's
it's
quite
a
difference,
and
it's
it
just
is
it
it's
not
continuous,
and
I
think
this
is
an
opportunity
on
dowling,
as
well
as
lowry
and
washington,
all
those
overpasses
to
really
look
at
what
potentially
could
be
done.
Inexpensively
and
you
know
just
taking
a
look
at
the
chain-
link
fence
and
being
able
to
add
a
little
bit
of
sculpture,
just
make
it
more
welcoming
and
more
of
a
of
a
promenade
down
to
these
different
sites.
I
know
up
on
57th
avenue,
which
is
the
twin
lakes
regional
trail.
C
They
widen
that
sidewalk
up
there
to
make
a
combined
a
bike
path
and
sidewalk
thing,
and
so
there
was,
you
know,
might
be
a
different
type
of
bridge
or
something
there
that's
stronger,
but
it
would
be
definitely
nice
to
see
what
could
be
done
with
mndot,
even
though
it's
not
in
the
process
of
doing
big
changes
like
they're
doing
on
35
w,
but
to
be
able
to
soften
those
elements.
The
the
bollards
on
26
have
been
torn
down
ripped
up
on
washington,
for
I
think
the
last
two
years.
C
I
don't
know
how
come
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
traffic
that
enters
into
going
up.
26
there.
That's
big
truck
stuff,
but
it's
you
know
it's
half
half
the
bridge
is
gone
and
it's
been
that
way
because
of
the
pandemic
and
just
haven't
been
able
to
get
things
fixed,
and
it
would
just
be
nice
to
see
what
could
be
done
to
really
improve
the
quality
of
that
experience
to
get
down
to
the
river.
Thank
you.
Q
J
Q
Hear
you
it's
a
great
comment
on
sidewalk
widening.
We
have
had
conversations
with
mndot
on
additional
load,
bearing
I
think
we
could
list
a
dozen
potential
improvements
on
the
dalit
avenue
bridge
and
we're
working
through
those
and
just
trying
to
see
what
can
we
get
right
now?
You
know
what
can
we
get
later
on
down
the
road
at
some
point,
that
bridge
will
be
redact
reconstructed
and
it's
more
a
question
of
until
then.
Q
What's
the
best
treatment
that
we
can
get,
but
I
totally
hear
you
and
in
regards
to
kind
of
adding
public
art
elements,
I
didn't
get
to
talk
about
this
in
my
presentation,
but
we
do
have
a
kind
of
additional
scope
around
public
art,
so
we're
working
with
our
design
team
and
some
local
artists
to
identify
pieces
in
the
infrastructure
where
we
can
do
permanent
art
installations
and
so
there's
definitely
a
potential
to
add
permanent
art
in
conjunction
with
the
design
and
really,
you
know
really
make
this
place
more
inclusive,
have
better
community
ownership
and
and
make
it
more
add
a
kind
of
a
sense
of
beauty
to
it.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
exciting
project
and
I,
like
the
thought
of
like
how
to
connect
north
minneapolis
with
that
barrier
of
94,
and
I
heard
you
talk
about
dowling
and-
and
I
thought
I
heard
alyssa
say
this,
but
maybe
I
misunderstood,
but
are
there
any
non-car
ways
to
get
across
94
like
pedestrian
bridges
or
pedestrian
bike
bridges
and
or
are
any
of
those
kind
of
talked
about
for
the
future?
I
Because
just
in
my
experience
it's
always
unpleasant
crossing
a
highway
and
then
with
the
cars
that
are
also
doing
the
same
thing.
Q
So
yeah
I
nathan,
do
you
want
to
talk
about
the
pedestrian
bridges?
I
know
we've
explored,
you
know
having
a
land,
bridge,
etc
and
yeah
I
hear
your
dowling
is:
is
tough
nathan?
Do
you
want
to
just
talk
at
a
greater
detail
about
some
of
that.
S
Yeah,
I
would
say
that's
some
of
the
biggest
things
we've
heard
from
the
neighborhood,
both
from
our
planning
workshops
with
the
collaborative
planning
committee
and
pillsbury
united
has
hosted
community
events,
and
that
consistently
is
a
theme,
and
one
thing
I
want
to
highlight
from
years
past
is
usu.
Previously
this
project
stopped
at
the
bridge,
but
our
recommendation
looking
at
vision,
zero
was
to
extend
it
to
lindale
because
it
is
on
the
vision,
zero
network,
and
it
is
a
priority
to
bridge
that
gap.
S
I-94
has
caused
long-standing
harms
to
this
neighborhood
and
we
have
picked
up
on
that
and
we're
trying
to
do
as
much
as
we
can,
and
I
guess
I
can
step
out
a
little
further
than
alexander
and
say
I
would
say,
we're
advocating
with
mndot
as
much
as
possible
to
improve
that
connection
until
such
time
that
we
can
either
get
a
new
bridge
or
a
secondary
bridge.
S
For
those
of
you
familiar
with
the
city's
resolutions
with
the
mndot's
highway
project
on
252
94,
we
did
make
pretty
strong
statements
about
not
expanding
the
freeway
and
also
mitigating
the
harms
of
the
freeway,
by
looking
at
other
additional
bridge
crossings.
Specifically
exclusively
for
walking
and
biking
so
we're
pushing
on
as
many
fronts
as
possible,
and
it's
good
to
hear
this
committee
would
like
to
see
us
do
that
as
well.
A
This
is
alyssa
I'll,
just
kind
of
jump.
In
with
a
follow-up
comment,
I'm
excited
to
hear
that
you
all
are
really
exploring.
What
can
you
do
in
terms
of
short-term
solutions
and
not
getting
totally
roadblocked
by
the
fact
that
mndot
isn't
going
to
be
redoing
the
bridge
anytime
soon?
I
think
I'm
really
interested
to
hear
from
you
all
about
how
you
see.
A
You
know
the
infrastructure
projects
around
that
bridge,
not
necessarily
today,
but
when
you're
coming
back.
How
do
you
see
those
pushing
mndot
even
further
than
they
would
typically
go?
I
think
we
often
run
into
situations
where
we
see
mndot
reconstructing
a
bridge,
and
it
is
the
weakest
point
in
the
in
the
facility
for
people
walking
and
biking.
A
So
really
wanting
to
hear
from
you
on
how
you
see
the
role
of
what
you're,
putting
on
either
side
of
that
bridge,
pushing
the
envelope
with
mndot,
and
then
I
think
the
other
thing
I'll
just
say
is.
I
would
love
to
see
some
conversation
and
exploration
about
turning
some
of
these
existing
car
bridges
into
walk
bike
bridges.
I
know
that
that's
a
hard
sell.
A
I
think
we
often
think
we
have
to
leave
what
is
there
and
then
just
add
something
else
for
people
walking
and
biking,
but
it
will
definitely
be
cheaper
to
take
an
existing
bridge
and
convert
that
for
people
walking
and
biking
and
just
remove
cars
from
the
bridge.
So
we'd
love
to
hear
some
conversation
about
that
from
you
all.
Q
I
could
take
a
quick,
stab
and
nathan
kind
of
fill
in
some
of
the
rest,
and
I
would
even
include
the
county
in
this
discussion
as
well,
because
washington
avenue
north
is
county
owned
nathan
and
I
in
in
public
works
in
general,
always
try
to
provide
a
whole
network
picture,
and
so
obviously
we
have
a
significant
opportunity
to
add
some
great
biped
infrastructure.
Here.
Q
We've
also
done
a
lot
of
conference
had
a
lot
of
conversations
with
hennepin
county
about
connecting
into
the
weber
camden
44
facilities
that
will
be
being
developed
to
the
north.
So,
and
this
is
a
great
opportunity
to
prove
that
north
south
connectivity
on
washington
avenue
I'm
also
traveling
south
on
washington
avenue.
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
the
map
up
but
connecting
to
lowry
as
well,
and
you
know
that
that
bike
bridge
that
exists
over
there.
Q
So
we've
had
those
conversations
with
hennepin
county
they're
ongoing
we're
starting
to
also
have
those
conversations
with
mndot,
and
it's
really
bringing
transparency
and
visibility
to
all
of
those
agencies
on
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
and
putting
and
making
them
understand
the
responsibility
that
they
have
to
influence
that.
Q
So
I
say:
network
transparency
and
and
timing
things
out.
So
you
know
maybe
a
said
agency
may
not
have
the
capacity
right
now
to
make
those
improvements,
but
getting
it
in
their
long-term
plans
or
short-term
plans
so
that
when
that
opportunity
does
happen,
it's
integrated
and
occurs
in
regards
and
hey
I'll
just
leave
it
there
and,
let
nathan
add
anything
additional
or
k2.
C
Yes,
yes,
thank
you
yeah
on
the
phase,
one
lower
dowling
avenue
illustration:
it
shows
a
bike
lane
and
a
separate
separated
by
a
boulevard
and
then
a
a
walk
path,
and
I
know
that
we're
a
little
bit
before
really
getting
into
materials
about
widths
and
everything
else.
But
I
just
wanted
to
assert
that
if
we
look
at
west
river,
road
going
south
from
plymouth
is
a
good
example
of
where
you
have
basically
parallel
walk
and
bike
paths,
but
oftentimes
they'll
just
get
you
know
the
runners.
C
Runners
prefer
the
bike
path
over
the
walking
path
and-
and
that's
never
gonna
change-
that's
just
gonna
happen.
I
just
hope
that
when
you're
looking
at
these
paths
like
this,
that
are
divided,
that
their
the
bikeway
is,
has
ample
width,
so
you
can
move
around
people
easily
yeah.
I
just
think
that
they
wind
up
being
mixed
use
depending
on
another
example,
would
be
westeros
road
north
of
north
of
plymouth,
where
you
have
a
walkway,
that's
down
by
the
river
and
a
bike
path.
C
C
Q
Absolutely
dan,
I
agree,
it's
it's
one.
You
know,
behavior
is
always.
Q
A
Q
S
It's
mainly
because
of
the
hill
we
we
had.
We
always
had
trouble
internally
talking
about
what
section
we
were
talking
about,
but
like
the
bridging
up,
it's
like
significantly
higher
up
like
you,
can
see
down
into
the
site
and
into
the
river.
It's
a
pretty
good,
pretty
cool
view
shed.
So
that's
just
how
we've
been
talking
about
it,
because
it's
also
like
two
different
types
of
cross
sections
and
what
we
have.
So
that's
the
nomenclature.
We
came
up
with
it's
not
quite
the
uptown
downtown
thing,
but
we
think
it
makes
sense.
A
Thank
you.
Anybody
else
have
any
questions
or
comments
for
the
project.
A
Team
all
right,
I'm
not
hearing
anything,
I'm
not
seeing
any
raised
hams.
So
I
think
we'll.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
it's
been
great
to
have
you
here
and
get
an
update
on
this
project.
I
think
we
can
maybe
spend
a
little
bit
of
time.
I
have
some
things
I
want
to
bring
forward
for
discussion.
Obviously,
staff
you're
welcome
to
stick
around,
but
I
know
you.
I
think
you
were
planning
to
be
done
at
five
o'clock.
S
So
one
piece
of
advice
for
the
committee
is:
we
will
be
back
in
two
weeks
to
talk
more
details,
infrastructure
and
take
more
resolutions
on
like
design
details
that
we'll
be
sharing.
But
if
you
are
wanting
to
talk
about
more
of
the
development,
I
think
you
had
highlighted
the
parking
garage.
I
think
it
would
be
in
your
best
interest
to
pass
resolution
sooner
rather
than
later,
because
that
will
be
going
to
city
council
for
a
vote
in
the
near
term.
A
So
I
think
we
we
still
have
a
half
hour
left
in
our
meeting
tonight.
I
wanted
to
bring
up
some
thoughts
and
see
how
the
group
would
feel
about,
as
nathan
mentioned,
potentially
passing
a
resolution
on
the
draft
coordinated
plan.
So
that's
the
the
portion
that
hillary
presented
on
before
she
left.
I
could
potentially
walk
us
through
the
plan,
but
otherwise
I
have
a
maybe
a
draft
motion
that
I
could
read
for
the
group
to
kind
of
share
my
thoughts.
A
So
I
I'm
just
going
to
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen.
Fingers
crossed
this
works.
Otherwise,
I'm
going
to
have
to
heavily
apologize
to
millicent
for
not
sending
things
in
advance.
A
Yeah,
but
that's
super
tiny,
okay,
so
matthew
would
you
be
able
to?
Let
me
know
if
anybody
raises
hands,
I
can't
see
anyone's
face
anymore.
B
Sure
and
I'll
just
note
too,
I
put
it
in
chat
but
individually
folks
can
manually
zoom
to
make
that
bigger
for
your
own
screen,
so
feel
free
to
do
that
as
well.
A
Cool
thanks
matthew.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
I
spent
a
little
bit
of
time
going
through
the
upper
harbor
terminal
draft
coordinated
plan.
It's
about
96
pages.
It
includes
some
of
the
visuals
that
hillary
shared
with
us
earlier
tonight,
as
well
as
a
lot
of
other
specific
things
she
didn't
really
get
into.
A
I
was
really
looking
at
it.
You
know
for
this
committee.
For
the
bicycling
perspective,
there
are
some
listed
strategies
in
the
plan
that
I
think
are
really
great
that
we
would
want
to
support.
A
They
are
listed
in
bullet
points
that
I
will
read
so
those
are
working
with
metro
transit
to
expand
transit
service
to
the
site,
trying
to
fund
some
of
those
bridge
improvements
that
alex
just
mentioned,
building
accessible,
pipe
and
bike
connections
between
north
side
neighborhoods
in
the
site,
upgrading
the
bike
lanes
to
off
street
trails
so
that
they're
separated
providing
wide
boulevards
that
offer
separation
from
vehicle
traffic
thumbs
up
on
that,
as
well
as
all
of
the
landscaping,
public
art,
pedestrian
street
level,
lighting
things
that
make
it
enjoyable
to
to
walk
and
bike
and
then
a
commitment
to
safe
streets.
A
So
I
think
those
are
some
things
in
the
plan
that
I
was
really
excited
to
see
and
wanted
to
to
pull
out
and
highlight
as
relevant
to
us
as
a
group,
and
then
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
pull
out
that
doesn't
seem
so
great
is
the
giant
parking
ramp
on
one
of
the
parcels.
So
they
talk
about.
I
think
there
are
seven
or
eight,
maybe
nine
parcels
and
there's
like
many
of
the
parcels,
have
an
a
and
a
b.
A
A
It's
in
the
section
of
the
plan,
that's
2025
and
beyond
they
sort
of
have
a
part
one
which
is
like
between
now
and
2025,
and
then
a
part
two
which
is
2025
and
beyond,
and
so,
if
you
include
that
420
stall
parking
ramp,
there
are
at
least
586
parking
stalls
in
the
plan
overall,
as
well
as
several
other
spots
where
they
say
this
parcel
may
be
also.
A
I
don't
think
that's
a
good
idea.
I
think
it
doesn't
comply
with
the
complete
streets
policy.
We
know
that
parking
really
incentivizes
people
to
drive.
It
doesn't
really
comply
with
the
new
transportation
action
plan.
It
really
undercuts
the
city's
climate
action
plan
and
I
think,
thinking
about
the
lifespan
of
a
parking
ramp
parking
parking
ramps
are
their
typical
lifespan
is
30
to
40
years.
A
So
if
we
approve
this
parking
ramp
and
it
gets
built
in
2025,
we're
gonna,
be
it's
still
gonna,
be
there
in
2055,
which
feels
like
not
the
greatest
move
when
we're
trying
to
cut
driving
quite
a
lot
in
the
next
decade.
So
so
those
are
some
of
the
thoughts
that
appear
in
this
draft
motion.
I,
what
do
people
think
I
know
most
of
the
folks
have
probably
not
read
the
96
page
document,
but
would
love
to
get
thoughts.
B
On
right,
okay:
deanna,
why
don't
you
go
first
and
then
phil.
D
Okay,
I
I
haven't,
I
haven't,
had
an
opportunity
to
read
it,
and
I
haven't
really
even
thought
about
this.
In
a
couple
of
years,
I
did
notice
that
there
was
an
arts
center
on
there
on
the
plan.
D
A
Yeah,
so
the
that's
a
great
question,
so
they
have
sort
of
a
during
phase
one.
So
pre-2025,
there's
a
bunch
of
surface
parking
that
is
meant
to
serve
the
entertainment
structure.
The
performing
arts
structure,
because
this
parking
ramp
won't
be
in
operation.
Yet
so
they're
gonna
open
the
entertainment
center
before
this
parking
ramp
gets
built.
The
parking
ramp
has,
I
think,
it's
about
half
the
spaces
that
are.
A
I
can't
remember
the
specific
term,
it's
something
like
community
and
residential
parking
spaces,
because
there
is
going
to
be
a
fair
amount
of
housing
on
the
site,
but
they,
I
think,
I
think,
for
me.
The
juxtaposition
is
they're
re
they're,
ready
to
commit
to
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
parking
stalls,
but
they're,
not,
as
you
know,
they're
going
to
continue
to
work
with
metro
transit
to
try
to
get
transit
expanded.
But
there's
no
firm
commitment
to
saying
we
want
transit
biking
walking
to
be
primary
ways
that
people
access
the
site.
A
I
think
we
see
that
even
in
the
initial
discussions
we're
having
about
the
public
right-of-way
and
how
it
is
you
know
it
is
constrained
and
lots
of
things
are
competing
for
that
space.
We
know
that
that
means
cars
are
competing
for
that
space
and
driving
is
competing
for
that
space.
A
So
I
don't
know
if
that
totally
answered
your
question.
I
think
it's
unclear
to
me
because
they're
going
to
open
the
venue
without
this
parking
ramp,
which
to
me
says
you
don't
need
the
parking
ramp
and
then
later
they
say,
but
after
we
open
it
and
have
been
operating
it
for
a
couple
of
years,
then
we're
going
to
need
the
parking
ramp,
which
is
in
the
time
frame
where
the
city
is
supposed
to
be
shifting
people
away
from
driving.
D
Yeah,
it
does
seem
a
little
backwards.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
them
answer
that
question
before
we
kind
of
refine
that
paragraph.
D
Primarily
because
I
think
that
if
there
is
a
performance
venue
there,
they
need
they
and
it
has
seating
for
800
seats
or
a
thousand
seats.
They
would
need
some
kind
of
parking
associated.
Just
with
that.
B
D
D
B
O
Yeah
thanks
matthew,
yeah,
a
couple
of
things
come
to
mind.
Certainly
I
mean
the
biggest
issue
without
kind
of
knowing
the
you
know.
The
financial
projections
under
the
mix
of
businesses
are
going
to
be
there.
I
I
think
the
biggest
issue
is
if,
if
the
site
is
going
to
be
opening
through
2025
without
the
parking
wrap,
yet
why
would
this
plan
to
build
a
420
stall
ramp?
O
O
One
is
you
know:
there's
no
talk
about
sort
of
parking
pricing,
I
mean
it's
it's
just
essential
to
and
we
we
all
think
about
free
parking,
but
we
absolutely
need
to
talk
about
the
pricing
and
variable
pricing
of
of
any
sort
of
parking,
and
but
also
you
know
we,
if
you
look
back,
I
don't
know
70
90
years
in
downtown
minneapolis,
you
had
you
had
structures
that
were
flexible,
and
so
they
started
out
with
maybe
parking
on
the
second
floor
and
maybe
they
added
to
the
third
floor
or
they
added
the
first
floor.
O
So
having
a
structure
that
at
least
is
if
there's
any
parking
it's
it's
got
to
be
a
flexible
structure
that
can
shift
from
parking
adding
to
or
from
so
that's
one
comment
on
the
parking,
the
other
just
a
small
little
point,
yeah
small
little
point
about
the
use
of
landscaping.
O
I
think
better
to
use
green
infrastructure
because
I
think
the
transportation
people
tend
to
think
about
landscaping
as
amenity,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
emphasizing
that
we're
we're
thinking
about
multifunctional
biologic,
greenery
so
more
than
landscaping.
So
if
green
infrastructure
feels
like
a
term
that
would
be
better
kind
of
spark
thinking
better
I'd,
I
would
use
that.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that's
a
great
suggestion,
at
least
for
this
list.
I
tried
to
take
them
pretty
directly
verbatim
from
the
plan,
so,
but
I'll
refer
back
to
that,
because
I
think
your
point
is
well
taken
that
green
green
infrastructure
means
more
than
just
pretty
sidewalks.
A
Any
other
thoughts
or
comments-
I
I
should
say
for
new
folks
that,
just
with
things
being
online
being
what
they
are,
typically,
we
don't
at
the
subcommittee
level,
we
have
a
more
informal
discussion.
Often
we
will
send
out
after
the
subcommittee
a
draft
of
something
via
email
that
you
can
continue
to
comment
on
and
then
we'll
bring
sort
of
an
amended
document
to
the
full
committee
meeting
to
to
pass
matthew
deardahl.
Do
you
still
think
that
is
an
okay
thing
to
do
tonight?
B
Yes,
yes,
I
do,
and
so
I
think,
just
to
put
a
like
support
and
finer
point
on
it
too,
with
like.
I
think
I've
talked
to
most
of
the
new
members
and
in
one
of
the
one
of
the
like
the
main
purposes
or
the.
I
guess.
One
of
the
best
things
about
the
committees
is
when
you
pass
like
really
clear
strong
resolutions
and
and
like
alyssa,
was
saying
that
formally
happens
at
the
full
committee.
B
Also,
what
alyssa
did
here
is
a
really
good
example.
You
can
bring
resolutions
if
you
have
prepared
beforehand,
but
then
also
as
you'll
see
in
upcoming
meetings.
The
committee
can
also
sort
of
like
on
the
fly,
come
up
with
the
resolution
and
and
get
pretty
close
and
then
make
some.
You
know,
hopefully
small
changes
at
the
full
committee,
so
this
is
just
a
good
example
of
of
how
we
use
subcommittees
and
how
that
sort
of
translates
to
a
formal
resolution
at
the
full.
B
If
that
makes
sense,
and
then
finally,
yes
for
nathan's
comment,
I
think
passing
this
resolution
sooner
than
later
would
be
a
good
thing.
A
J
B
C
Yeah,
I
don't
know
quite
if
this
fits
or
not,
but
underneath
your
last
point
design
safe
streets
with
that
prioritize
and
encourages
safe
travel
behaviors.
I
is
it
worth,
maybe
matthew.
You
know
something
about
this
in
the
planning
state.
Is
anybody
looking
at
2nd
street
and
trying
to
upgrade
the
facilities
on
that
from
darling
to
lowry.
B
I
I
would
say
I
mean
multiple
people
like
I'm
thinking
about
2nd
street.
You
know
in
the
in
the
lifetime
of
tap,
you
know.
So
it's
it's!
It's
a
street.
That's
on
our!
You
know
what
we
call
our
all
ages
abilities
network
or
basically
we
want
that
to
be
protected,
a
protected
bikeway
over
the
next
10
years.
I
am
not.
Let's
bring
that
question
to
the
next
meeting
too.
B
I
I
don't
believe
there
are
immediate
plans
as
part
of
what
was
presented
today,
but
it's
definitely
something
that
that
we're
thinking
about
as
a
connector,
you
know
connected
or
a
complimentary
project.
C
That's
what
I
was
just
wondering
if
it
was
worth
pointing
it
out
as
a
a
project
that
maybe
should
be
looked
at
doing
in
conjunction
with
you
know
the
upper
harbor.
So
the
whole
thing
kind
of
ties
together.
B
B
Especially
real
quick,
especially
because
of
the
the
weber
44,
I
mean
that's
going
to
be
a
massive
improvement
just
to
the
north,
and
then
you
know,
lowry
has
that
has
a
pretty
nice
facility
across
the
river,
so
yeah
and
then
wes.
P
Yeah
just.
B
P
So
I
just
on
the
parking
question
and
the
question
of
this
ramp
in
relation
to
the
thing
that
pops
out
for
me
and
I'm
not
super
familiar
with
this
plan.
It's
just
not
it's
not
work
that
I've
been
involved
in
at
all.
Is
that
so
you
you
have
all
of
these
different
as
you
go
through
the
plan.
P
These
different
call
outs
of
the
different
parcels
and
what
they're
going
to
be
for
and
a
number
of
them
are
residential
properties,
and
my
reaction
here
is
that,
like
there's,
a
lot
of
ambiguity
around
parking
and
a
420
stall
is
very
different,
like
like
considering
the
scale
of
what's
happening
here.
A
420
ramp
stall
is
very
different,
depending
on
what
parking
ratios
are
provided
for
the
different
residential
projects
and
that's
the
kind
of
thing
where,
like
like.
P
I
saw
that
district
parking
is
referenced,
and
it
makes
me
really
like
it's
one
thing
to
say
like
we're
going
to
build
this
ramp
to
support.
You
know
people
who
are
driving
in
to
see
concerts
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
all
of
these
residential
projects
are
going
to
have
ratio
very
low
unit
to
parking
space
ratios,
and
we
will
encourage
people
to
have
fewer
vehicles
and
to
share
to
share
those
spaces
or,
however,
that
kind
of
gets
worked
out.
P
O
Yeah
yeah,
you
know
I
would
just
follow
up.
I'm
assuming
this
420
stall
ramp
is,
is
the
as
in
the
the
only
district
parking
for
all
commercial
entertainment
residential
parking.
But
you
know
not
not
having
looked
at
the
whole
plan
yeah.
That
would
be
really
disturbing
if
they
were
awesome.
If,
if
residential
property
developers
were
going
to
be
saddled
well,
certainly
settled
with,
you
know,
sort
of
old-fashioned
parking
ratios
for
housing,
and
then
we
also
have
a
parking
ramp.
That
would
be
really.
A
Bad
this
is
a
follow-up
question
for
staff,
so
for
new
members
we
saw
three
or
four
months
ago.
There
was,
I
think,
an
action
by
the
planning
commission
around
the
city,
exploring
removing
parking
minimums
do
staff
happen
to
know
where
that's
at.
Is
that
something?
I
should
look
into
outside
the
meeting
that
that
would
impact
this
project.
P
So
I
can
comment
on
that.
A
bit
that
fell
away
a
little
bit
as
staff
were
working
to
get
through
the
the
built
form
regulations
which
have
since
been
completed
and
when
and
I
believe,
gone
into
effect,
but
that
work
will
be
returning
on
that
relatively
soon.
I
don't
know
the
exact
timeline
of
when
it
might
pass,
but
it
is
on
the.
A
Docket
thanks
wes
all
right,
so
I
think
this
is
a
great
set
of
comments
to
start
since
we're
almost
at
the
end
of
our
meeting
time,
and
I
do
want
to
leave
a
few
minutes
for
announcements.
I
think
I
will
end
us
here,
but
I
will
send
this
out
to
the
group
and
I'm
matthew.
A
Maybe
moving
this
as
a
resolution
at
the
end
of
the
month
at
our
full
meeting,
hopefully
sending
that
out
in
advance
will
give
us
some
time
between
things
to
to
get
that
ready
to
go.
So
thanks
everybody
for
your
comments
and
your
questions,
I
think
they're
great
questions,
and
hopefully
we
can.
You
know
continue
to
make
this
plan,
though
the
best
it
has.
It
can
be.
It's
come
a
long
way,
so
it's
exciting
to
see
it
in
its
current
form.
A
H
I
have
an
announcement
real
quick
before
anybody
else
jumps
on
it's
about
our
2021
calendar.
So
there's
been
another
change.
Our
july
bac
engineering
subcommittee
meeting
is
scheduled
for
july
20th.
We
need
to
move
it
back
one
week
to
july
13th
the
city
isn't
having
any
meetings
on
july
20th
because
of
eid.
Is
that
the
correct
pronunciation?
B
Yeah,
so
I
want
to
give
an
announcement
or
an
update
that
ethan,
foley
and
lou
canton,
both
planners
in
in
our
team
in
public
works
working
on
the
street
design
guide.
Let
me
know
that
you
know
they've
been
working
hard
to
wrap
it
up.
This
has
come
before
the
bac.
B
I
think
several
months
ago,
they're
very
excited
about
it.
I'm
very
excited
about
it.
B
They
incorporated
a
lot
of
your
comments
and
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
it
should
be
they're
trying
to
wrap
it
up
fairly
soon
and
bring
it
to
city
council
as
well
as
the
bac
and
the
pac,
for
you
know
to
to
both,
let
you
know
what's
in
it,
but
also
because
of
what
I
think
is
your
special
role
with
the
street
design
guide,
which
I'll
just
call
holding
us
accountable
to
it
kind
of
want
to
like
share
it
with
you,
almost
in
a
way
trying
to
think
what
the
right
word
is
like
like
orient
orient
everyone
to,
let
you
know
what's
in
it
and
and
how
we
plan
to
use
it.
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
that
heads
up
we're
thinking,
probably
a
5e
subcommittee,
coming
up,
maybe
in
february.
So
if
there's
any
thoughts
on
that,
let
me
know
otherwise
that's
the
update
and
so
for
the
for
the
folks
who
may
not
know
about
this.
The
the
street
design
guide
is
is
like
it
sounds.
It's
a
it's.
A
guide
for
planners
and
engineers
in
public
works
to
design
streets
that
we're
reconstructing
so
it'll
have
a
ton
of
details.
B
It's
fairly
lengthy
and
and
really
really
nice,
graphics
and
things
like
that.
But
everything
from
you
know
how
wide
all
the
different
features
in
a
street
should
be.
You
know,
travel
lanes,
bike
lanes,
sidewalks
things
like
that
and
and
I'll
look
at
like
intersections
and
how
we'll
treat
you
know
busier
streets
and
and
calmer
streets,
and
things
like
that.
B
So
it's
it's
probably
one
of
the
most
important
documents
that
we
have
in
addition
to
the
you
know,
actual
policies
that
are
adopted
so
just
wanted
to
give
that
heads
up.
A
I
have
one
a
quick
announcement,
so,
in
addition
to
my
role
as
five
east
chair,
I'm,
the
outgoing
vice
chair
for
the
18
20
term
and
our
outgoing
chair,
nick
mason,
had
asked
me
in
that
role
to
represent
the
bicycle
advisory
committee
on
a
complete
streets.
Working
group.
That's
happening
right
now,
just
because
of
the
strange
timing
that
would
have
been
something
that
I
think
nick
typically
would
have
done,
but
because
of
the
endless
clerk
appointment
questions
about
when
when
service
was
going
to
be
over
nick
asked
me
to
do
that.
A
That
group
has
met
twice
now
and
is
going
to
have
a
third
meeting
at
the
end
of
january,
wherein
it
sounds
like
we're
going
to
see
a
revised,
complete
streets
policy
draft
kind
of,
depending
on
on
timing
of
that,
I
would
imagine
that
might
also
come
to
the
february
five
e's
meeting
for
review.
A
I
think
there's
some
folks
there
who
are
really
excited
about
tightening
that
policy
and
making
it
further
demonstrating
a
very
firm
commitment
to
walking
biking
and
transit,
and
there
are
some
folks
in
that
group
who
are
very
worried
about
driving
and
parking.
So
it'll,
be,
I
think,
important
for
us
to
weigh
in
on
as
a
group
when
that
comes
up,
but
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know
that
that
was
happening.
B
Actually,
I
guess
I'm
I
may
just
have
one
I
I
hadn't
thought
of
it
until
now,
but
maybe
it's
worthwhile
to
give
a
heads
up
that
at
the
full
committee
coming
up
on
the
fourth
wednesday,
we
will
have
elections
for
our
executive
team
and
so
we'll
we'll
explain
that
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
about
what
what
positions
are
are
open
and
how
we'll
do
that
process,
but
might
be
worth
thinking
about
that
in
the
next
couple
weeks,
and
so
those
positions
are
chair.
B
Vice
chair
secretary
and
then
committee
subcommittee
co-chairs
and
so
that
team,
combined
with
me,
mills
and
chris,
make
up
the
executive
committee
and
and
that
group
sets
the
agenda
for
the
full
committee.
A
Thanks
matthew,
I
see
janice
has
a
hand
up
as
well.
E
That's
that's
to
what
I
was
gonna
say.
I
was
just
gonna
so
since
we
have
so
many
new
members
at
this
meeting
just
to
as
a
heads
up
people
think
about
if
they
want
to
take
a
leadership
role.
A
A
All
right,
thank
you,
everybody
for
joining
us,
I'm
sad!
We
couldn't
meet
you
all
in
person
someday.
We
will
all
be
able
to
go
out
for
dinner
or
beer
or
something
after
a
meeting.
A
But
I
look
forward
to
getting
to
know
all
of
your
the
new
folks
in
the
virtual
environment.
As
best
we
can
and
working
alongside
you
online
and
offline.