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From YouTube: November 17, 2021 Charter Commission
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A
C
Good
afternoon
welcome
to
this
live
broadcast
of
our
virtual
meeting.
This
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statutes,
section
13
d
.021
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
The
city
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
to
the
city's
website
and
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
public
access
and
transparency.
C
D
C
F
G
C
G
D
F
C
C
C
If,
if
the
discussion
is
centering
on
wards
or
park
districts,
and
if
you
are
a
commenter
and
would
like
mr
munson
to
focus
in
on
an
area
he
can
zoom
in
as
well
while
you're
talking,
I
would
encourage
commenters
not
only
to
tell
us
what
you
want
to
change,
but
how
you
think
that
would
affect
the
broader
picture.
In
other
words,
don't
just
say:
move
my
neighborhood
into
word
x,
because
if
that
happens
then
word
y,
where
you're
coming
from
is
going
to
have
to
get
bigger
somewhere
else.
C
And
we
do
all
members
of
the
redistricting
group
do
look
at
those
comments
and
those
submitted
maps
when
you
are
called
on.
Please
tell
us
your
name,
your
neighborhood.
You
don't
have
to
give
us
your
physical
address,
but
your
neighborhood
and
if
you're,
representing
somebody
other
than
yourself
who
you're
representing
we
have
20
speakers
signed
up
today,
so
we'll
be
taking
speakers
in
the
order
that
they
are
registered.
C
We
have
a
timer
to
help
speakers
monitor
their
use
of
time
and
you
will
hear
a
buzzer
when
your
time
is
up
now
when
you're
called
on
to
speak,
press
star
6
to
unmute
your
phone
and
then
after
you
press,
star,
6,
wait
a
minute
or
a
moment
for
recorded
messages
that
says
you're
unmuted
before
you
begin
speaking.
Also,
please
make
sure
your
phone
is
not
on
viewed
so
I'll.
First
call
on
brian
rice.
H
H
Thank
you,
chair
clegan,
for
accommodating
a
request,
the
park
boards
meeting
at
five
o'clock
today.
My
name
is
brian
rice,
I'm
the
attorney
for
the
park
board
and
we
have
the
park
board.
Last
earlier.
This
month
past
the
resolution
2021
343
that
I
believe
the
charter
commission
members
have
received.
H
We
just
want
to
emphasize
three
points
to
call
to
your
attention.
The
first
one
was
laws,
1992
chapter
362,
section
2..
This
is
a
bit
of
a
unique
law.
The
charter
section
referring
to
park
board
redistricting
directly
references
special
laws
that
might
apply
there
is
this
special
law
that
applies
to
the
park
board
and
mr
chair,
you
were
a
good
friend
of
representative
richard
jefferson,
who
just
passed
away
this
year.
H
Mr
jefferson
representative,
jefferson
and
senator
pogue
miller
authored
this
bill.
It
had
an
interesting
path
to
its
enactment
governor
carlson,
originally
vetoed
it.
They
worked
with
him
to
craft
these
principles
and
there's
one
key
provision
in
that
paragraph:
that's
pretty
unique
to
minnesota
law,
and
that's
paragraph
four
that
requires
or
directs
that
districts
must
not
dilute
the
voting
strength
of
a
racial
or
language
minority
populations
where
a
concentration
of
racial
or
language
minority
makes
it
possible.
The
districts
must
increase
the
probability
that
members
of
the
minority
will
be
elected.
H
I
submit
to
the
commission
that
you're
not
going
to
find
that
language
in
any
statute.
There
is
a
lot
of
discussion
in
case
law
about
dilution
and
concentration
of
minority
populations.
Quite
frankly,
this
language
goes
back
to
1992,
but
it's
still
valid.
If
you
looked
at
the
arc
of
reapportionment
law
in
the
last
30
years,
you'd
find
that
republican
courts
have
greatly
eroded
those
notions,
but
it
is
in
the
law
when
it
comes
to
your
drawing
of
these
districts,
so
the
park
board
respectfully
calls
your
attention
to
that.
H
Secondly,
the
park
board
recognizes
that
your
commission
is
the
authority
to
deviate
five
percent
either
way.
We
know
that's
your
prerogative,
but
we
would
hope
that
you
would
try
to
reach
the
more
ideal
population.
As
much
as
possible-
and
the
board
also
recognizes
that
it's
your
job
to
redraw
these
districts,
not
the
park
board,
we
do
not
have
any
specific
recommendations,
because
we
think
that
would
cross
the
line
in
terms
of
your
work
and
also
that
we're
commenting
pursuant
to
state
law
in
the
charter
that
allows
the
board
to
do
it.
H
But
we
recognize
that
elected
officials,
drawing
these
lines
per
se
was
was
removed
in
the
charter
amendment
and
the
one
that
created
your
redistricting
advisory
committee.
So
I
think
we
would
that
the
board
decided
at
a
much
higher
level
to
just
express
these
principles
to
you
and
to
leave
in
your
good
hands
the
the
decision
as
to
the
particulars
of
redistricting.
C
E
J
That
yeah,
mr
chair,
I
apologize.
I
was
just
speaking,
and
apparently
I
was
not
speaking
in
the
into
my
microphone
so
there
there
it
does
seem,
there's
an
issue
with
some
folks,
not
getting
the
number.
There
are
about
20
people
who
signed
up
and
many
of
them
aren't
in
the
meeting.
So
our
t
staff
is
going
to
send
out
the
invites
again
if
you
are
getting
any
direct
messages
from
individuals.
C
C
C
B
A
B
The
draft
board
map
that
was
proposed,
so
I
know
in
this
ward
map,
like
in
the
board
map
that
was
official
for
the
last
10
years
and
really
the
map
before
that.
The
easter
harriet
neighborhood
was
split.
That
is
split
between
ward
10
and
ward
13,
the
line
of
demarcation
being
42nd
street.
I
think
that
all
of
the
east
harris
neighborhood
should
be
in
the
13th
ward.
B
I
I
think,
given
that
east
harriet
is
a
majority
home
owner,
it
doesn't
really
fit
in
with
the
rest
of
ward
10,
which
is
centered
around
the
uptown
air
area
and
around
the
river
area,
with
lots
of
runners,
it's
the
only
neighborhood
or
10,
that
is
majority
homeowner,
and
if
you
moved
it
into
ward
13,
you
have
to
take
some
population
away
from
ward
13..
So
so
you
could
then
move
the
west
calhoun
neighborhood
into
ward
7.
B
I
think
west
calhoun
matches
what
ward
77
is
it's
just
the
other
side
of
lake
street,
so
the
other
side
of
whitney
street
from
cidna
and
ward
7
has
a
mix
of
both
homeowners
and
renters,
both
in
the
sierras
dean
area.
Also
in
the
loring
park
area,
so
I
think
that
if
you
move
east
area
completely
in
the
world
war,
13
shifted
west
calhoun
into
ward
seven.
You
would
still
be
under
the
five
percent
the
deviation
threshold.
B
It
would
actually
help
some
of
the
make
ward
47
a
bit
bigger
than
it
is
and
make
its
awards
send.
Ten
seven
and
thirteen
would
all
be
under
that
five
percent
threshold,
and
it
would
mean
that
it
is
no
longer
split,
and
I
think
it
also
means
that
all
the
neighborhoods
are
in
an
area
that
represents
what
the
other
neighborhoods
are
within
the
ward.
So
that
is
all.
C
F
K
K
So
then,
that
way,
we
can
also
accommodate
the
fact
that
in
the
next
10
years,
we're
going
to
be
seeing
the
other
park.
Districts
continue
to
grow
in
population
and
5
and
6
are
going
to
be
likely
the
least
likely
to
grow
in
the
same
sort
of
that
population.
Difference
and
then,
therefore,
the
disparities,
the
disparity
in
which
the
representation
exists,
is
going
to
just
keep
growing.
L
L
Sounds
good.
I
live
in
in
east
minneapolis,
which
is
the
portion
of
minneapolis
that
rests
on
the
east
side
of
the
mississippi
river
and
it
it's
a
distinct
community
that
has
a
population
of
over
81
000
people,
which
is
enough
for
two
complete
warts,
plus
the
remainder
of
another,
nearly
half
of
a
of
a
third
ward
and
the
practice
over
the
last
few
years
or
last.
L
Few
districting
cycles
has
been
to
split
two
of
the
wards
across
the
river
when,
in
fact
it
would
make
more
sense
and
be
more
fair
to
the
east
side
to
make
two
complete
east
side
wards
and
and
move
just
one
ward
across
the
river.
Have
it
shared
with
the
community
across
the
river
and
there's
basically
three
ways
to
do
this,
but
the
two
most
logical
ones
would
be
to
create
a
northern
ward,
a
middle
ward
in
its
entirety.
L
And
then
the
southern
portion
of
the
remaining
east
side
can
cross
the
river
right
about
right
about.
Where
franklin
avenue
is
it's
it's
much
more
easy
to
visualize.
If
you
have
the
diagram
that
I
sent
along
in
front
of
you,
the
second
option
would
be
to
create
a
what
used
to
happen
in
minneapolis
prior
to
recent
times
where
there
would
be
the
first
ward
and
then
a
complete
second
ward,
that
encompassed
the
university
community
and
then
the
third
ward
would
cross
the
river
and
one
thing
that
would
okay.
L
One
thing
that
would
be
helpful
in
that
regard
would
be
keeping
the
entire
university
together.
One
criticism
that
I
really
have
of
the
of
the
draft
map
of
the
third
ward
is
a
really
odd
cut
through
the
middle
of
dinkytown,
which
I
think
is,
is
pretty
unnecessary
and
quite
unfair
to
the
voting
population
over
there.
So
I
think
it
would
be
a
much
stronger
map
if
you
could
include
all
of
dinky
town
along
with
the
rest
of
the
university
community.
C
M
Go
ahead:
are
you
here,
okay,
good?
Okay!
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
This
is
ted
tucker.
I
live
at
319
5th
street
southeast,
which
has
been
my
home
for
the
past
45
years,
though,
in
that
time
I
have
lived
in
wards,
2,
5
and
now
3.
As
the
redistricting
commission
moves
my
precinct
around
to
make
its
map
work,
I
would
prefer
to
be
in
a
rationally
drawn
ward
rather
than
the
last
piece
to
be
fitted
in
the
puzzle.
M
There
are
three
criteria
of
what
you
will
keep
in
mind
as
you
solve
the
puzzle.
This
time,
first
keep
whole
neighborhoods
together
in
one
ward,
apologists
for
splitting
up
neighborhoods
claim
that
there
will
then
be
two
council
members
responding,
but
my
experience
is
we
just
get
two
council
members
ignoring
us.
M
M
M
And,
lastly,
the
east
side
of
minneapolis,
that
is
the
park
east
of
the
mighty
mississippi
river,
has
enough
population
for
two
full
lords
and
a
large
part
of
a
third.
It
would
make
more
sense
to
have
a
ward
cross
the
river
just
once
at
a
place
where
there
are
many
bridges
connecting
the
two
parts
of
the
ward,
and
there
is
a
community
of
interest
such
as
our
great
new
civic
amenity,
the
central
riverfront.
M
C
C
C
N
N
Name
is
I'm
carter
yost,
I
use
pronouns
like
he
him
and
his
I'm
a
second
year
student
at
the
university
of
minnesota
and
I'm
the
state
president
for
college
democrats
of
minnesota
members
of
the
commission
good
afternoon.
Thank
you
for
allowing
the
opportunity
for
me
to
speak
today
and
sorry
about
the
the
call-in
chaos
earlier.
I'm
testifying
today
in
favor
of
the
proposed
changes
to
the
northern
borders
of
ward
2's
district
boundaries.
N
However,
the
the
current
proposals
also
contain
a
concerning
split
between
segments
of
the
dingy
town
neighborhood
in
mercy
homes
between
wards
two
and
three,
which
unfairly
separates
a
densely
populated,
heavily
student
resident
community
between
district
lines
as
a
youth
organizer.
As
a
college
democrat
and
just
as
a
young
person
as
a
student
at
the
university
and
a
resident
of
the
city,
it
is
to
undersell
it
entirely
consistently
to
the
detriment
of
our
campus
community
and
to
our
city,
to
separate
college
communities
between
wards
and
between
city
council
members.
N
As
the
process
of
registration
continues
in
minneapolis,
I,
along
with
campus
chapters
and
state
federation
for
the
college
democrats
of
minnesota,
encourage
the
members
of
the
charter
commission
to
place
an
intentional
focus
on
preserving
and
protecting
the
fair
representation
of
students
and
young
people
as
the
lines
get
drawn
and
the
maps
get
made.
I
hope
that
there
is
an
insurance
placed
to
college
campuses
and
the
communities
which
house
them
are
kept
complete
within
single
war
districts
as
much
as
possible.
N
A
Okay,
thank
you,
a
group
of
those
individuals,
I'm
with
the
citizens
for
fair
redistricting
sent
to
a
map
and
in
this
map
we
follow
making
sure
that
the
second
sixth
and
third
wards
are
done
correctly
and
we
redid
the
whole
city.
What's
really
important
is
that
the
sixth
ward
is
a
minority
opportunity,
ward
and
taking
it
down
to
the
river
and
putting
in
thousands
of
of
non-minority
students.
Minority
folks
is
a
real
problem.
A
A
In
the
ninth
ward,
we
were
able
to
increase
the
minority
percentage
to
25,
so
our
plan
is
there
and
I
hope
you
look
at
it.
We
are
real
concerned
that
the
riverfront
and
the
third
ward
be
kept
similar,
and
we're
also
very
concerned
that
the
minority
opportunity
wards,
which
will
be
six
and
nine,
be
kept.
I
live
in
southeast
minneapolis
and
I
think
the
student
area
said
student,
but
it's
actually
a
southeast
area
can
be
made
mostly
into
one
ward
without
taking
out
the
people
who
are
city
council
members.
A
A
Then
we
put
the
como
neighborhood
together
and
we
make
sure
that
no
council
member
is
taken
out
of
their
ward.
We
understand
some
people
believe
redistricting's
a
way
of
winning
an
election.
They
didn't
they
lost.
We
don't
believe
in
that.
So
what's
important
in
our
plan
is
the
minority
districts
are
kept
the
same
and
we
are
not
taking
council
members
out
of
the
awards
and
I'm
doing
the
election
and
again
the
six.
This
award
goes
to
46,
which
is
his
current
minority
population,
and
so
that's
where
we're
coming
from.
A
O
Well,
that's
because
I
didn't
know
about
this
meeting
until
just
about
a
half
hour
ago,
and
I
want
to
apologize
for
being
late.
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you've
done,
because
I'm
sure
it's
been
pretty
arduous,
but
I
want
to
just
quickly
re-reaffirm
what
tony
just
said.
I
haven't
seen
the
citizen
plan,
nor
have
I
seen
what
sources
seem
said,
but
I
did
hear
what
ted
tucker
said
and
I
agree
with
all
three
of
them
that
we
really
need
to
keep
the
river
has
a
natural
dividing
line.
O
I'm
very
concerned
that
the
third
ward,
just
because
looking
at
the
size,
you
are
making
us
the
most
dense
neighborhood
in
the
entire
city
and
that's
because
of
what's
been
happening
with
the
2040
plan.
That
being
said,
I'm
really
concerned
that
we
need
to
keep
the
river
has
a
natural
guiding
post
and
the
east
area
stay.
O
That
way-
and
I
wish
I
could
have
seen
tony's
map
as
well
as
vic
map,
and
I
would
urge
you
to
reconsider-
and
I
know
you
guys
have
done
just
a
ton
of
work
and
I'm
sure
that
this
is
very
hard
to
hear
this
criticism,
but
it
would
be
good
if
you
could
open
up
and
and
look
at
these
two
plans
and
maybe
see
some
differentials,
and
so
that's
all
I
need
to
say
so.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
work.
I
know
this
is
not
a
lot
of
fun
but
appreciate
it.
Okay,.
C
F
Yes
hi,
so
my
name
is
brian
saponic
yeah.
I
think
part
of
the
reason
people
didn't
show
up
is.
I
just
got
the
email
with
the
information
for
the
meeting
about
10
minutes
ago,
so
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
with
the
email
system,
but
I
I
first
of
all
want
to
let
you
know
that
that
could
be
part
of
the
reason
people
aren't
showing
up
is
because
no
one
got
or
some
people
apparently
didn't
get
the
information
until
now.
So
that's
why
I'm
late?
F
I
actually
have
missed
most
of
the
meeting,
so
I'm
going
to
go
off
of
the
information
I
had
before
the
meeting
and
I'll
probably
go
back
and
watch
it
later.
I
currently
live
in
the
legacy
which
is
by
the
35
bridge,
so
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
be
moving
from
ward
3
to
ward
6.
Under
this
plan,
I
actually,
under
the
basics
of
the
plan,
do
support
moving
towards
six.
So
I
support
your
you
guys
moving
it
there,
just
because
I
know
myself
and
my
wife.
F
We
feel
much
more
connected
to
that
neighborhood
than
we
do
to
the
downtown
neighborhood.
We
spend
much
more
time
in
that
neighborhood,
and
so
my
wife
is
also
a
person
of
color,
so
she
feels
more
connected
to
that
neighborhood
as
well.
So
I
think
from
that
standpoint
we
definitely
feel
more
connected
to
that
neighborhood
and
we
would
support
it
from
that
standpoint.
The
one
thing
I'm
concerned
about
with
this
plan
is
that
it
looks
like
it
dilutes.
F
Oh
no,
I
feel
like
I'm
more
connected
to
the
middle
district
in
that
area.
I
actually
don't
feel
like
that.
So
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
there
are
people
that
that
live
in
this
area
that
are
going
to
be
going
to
work.
Six
that
don't
feel
that
way
as
well.
Not
everyone
is
saying,
oh
shoot,
I'm
going
to
be
cut
off
or
whatever
we
definitely
don't
feel
that
way.
C
P
Thank
you
so
much
yeah,
sorry,
I'm
just
getting
in
here
a
little
bit
late
here.
I
do
want
to
bring
up
the
issue
of
ward
3
precinct
1
in
13
remaining
with
ward
3
and
not
moving
toward
two.
I
think
it
may
be
better
to
take
a
very
hard
look
at
moving
those
two
precincts
to
ward
two
to
because
they
have
more.
P
In
common
with
ward,
two
than
ward
three
representation
that
dinky
town
area,
that
area
east
of
35
w
has
always
seen,
in
my
opinion,
to
have
been
a
stepchild
in
previous
council
member
representation
from
ward
3..
It
just
kind
of
sticks
out
there,
it's
all
it's
it.
It's
its
own
has
its
own
issues
and
residents
that
identify
more
with
ward
two.
P
So
I
would
like
you
to
take
a
very
hard
look
at
maybe
moving
those
two
precincts,
1
and
13
to
ward
through,
and
also
keeping
the
mill
district
with
the
riverfront
for
two
reasons:
one:
it's
unlikely
that
the
population
base
along
the
riverfront
there
is
going
to
change.
Everything
seems
to
be
built
up
already
and
the
cohesiveness
and
the
issues
that
affect
that
riverfront
downtown
area
of
ward
3
are
vastly
different
than
the
issues
that
affect
ward
6..
P
C
Q
C
R
Oh,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
and
greg.
Maybe
the
people
that
were
on
today's
list
that
we
did
not
hear
from
maybe
send
them
an
email
inviting
them
specifically
to
participate
in
the
in
the
15th
meet
in
the
december
15th
meeting,
so
that
everybody
that
wanted
to
get
in
today
will
have
ultimately
have
their
chance.