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From YouTube: December 6, 2021 Planning Commission
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All
right
that
motion
passes
and
the
minutes
are
adopted.
Our
next
order
of
business
is
to
organize
the
agenda
for
the
evening,
which
again
is
available
at
limbs.minneapolismn.gov
I'll,
read
through
the
agenda
items
and
say
whether
they're
slated
for
consent
or
discussion,
consent
items
will
be
passed
without
discussion
and
we
will
approve
the
staff
recommendation
and
any
listed
conditions
along
with
it.
So
if
you
agree
with
stack
recommendation,
you
do
not
need
to
do
anything
and
we
will
pass
that
item
with
the
staff
recommendation.
B
If
you
disagree
with
the
staff
recommendation
and
would
like
to
speak
on
an
item
when
I
read
through
that
item,
please
indicate
that
you
would
like
to
speak
against
the
item
or
the
staff
recommendation,
and
we
will
add
that
item
to
our
discussion
agenda
and
to
unmute
yourself.
You
need
to
press
star
six
and
make
sure
that
your
phone
is
also
unmuted
all
right.
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So
item
number
four
is
407
15th
avenue,
southeast
1417
4th
avenue,
4th
street
southeast
1413
4th
street
southeast
1428
5th
street
southeast
1412,
5th
street
southeast
and
4
1
6,
14th
avenue,
southeast
and
staff
is
recommending
this
item
for
consent.
Is
there
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
against
item
number?
Four
against
staff
recommendation
for
item
number
four.
B
B
B
B
B
B
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B
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B
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B
All
right
motion
passes
and
we've
approved
the
agenda
up.
Next
is
our
consent
agenda,
so
I
will
open
a
public
hearing
on
the
consent
agenda
and
then
we
will
vote
to
approve
or
adopt
staff
recommendation
on
those
items.
So
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
consent
agenda.
Is
there
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
on
items
4,
5,
7,
8,
9,
10,
12,
13,
14,
15
or
16.?
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C
F
G
H
G
G
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
convert
the
vacant
commercial
building
into
an
office
for
innovation.
The
applicant
has
indicated
that
the
building
will
be
renovated
both
inside
and
out.
The
existing
brick
on
the
outside
of
the
building
will
be
painted,
metal
and
wood.
Accents
will
be
added
to
the
exterior
of
the
building.
Overhead
garage
doors
will
be
added
to
the
south
and
west
sides
of
the
building,
and
two
small
storage
rooms
will
be
added
to
the
building.
G
In
1999,
the
site
was
on
c1
neighborhood
commercial
district
in
november
of
2010
larry
avenue
between
third
avenue
north
and
the
western
city
limits
underwent
a
rezoning
study.
After
the
rezoning
study
was
adopted,
the
site
was
down
zoned
to
the
r4,
multiple
family
district.
To
convert
the
building
for
commercial
purposes.
The
site
does
need
to
be
resound.
G
G
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
place
a
20
foot
long
by
8
foot
wide
by
9
foot
tall
shipping
container
between
the
building
and
the
front
property
line
along
upton
avenue.
North
the
shipping
container
would
be
oriented
nowhere
south
and
would
parallel
the
building.
The
shipping
container
would
be
used
for
storage.
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G
G
E
G
G
The
site
will
also
be
renovated
as
part
of
this
project.
There
are
two
curb
cuts
leading
to
the
site:
one
off
of
lowry,
avenue
north
and
one
off
of
upton
avenue
north
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
use
the
curb
cut
along
larry
of
the
north
for
access
purposes.
There
will
be
two
parking
spaces
located
along
the
east
property
line
of
the
site.
G
The
curb
cut
along
upton
afternoon
north
will
not
be
used.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
utilize
the
southwest
corner
of
the
site
as
an
outdoor
gathering
area,
landscape,
gravel
is
proposed
as
a
ground
cover
with
large
boulders
on
the
east
and
west
ends
of
it
to
define
it
along
a
portion
of
the
southwest
corner
of
the
property.
There
will
be
a
three-foot
avian
wall,
concrete
planters
and
fixed
benches.
Landscaping
would
be
planted
between
the
property
line
and
these
site
elements
along
larry
avenue
north
next
slide.
Please.
G
The
proposed
rezoning
is
in
the
public
interest.
The
site
is
guided
for
neighborhood
mixed
use
in
minneapolis
2040.
commercial
zoning
is
appropriate
in
this
future
land
use
category.
The
building
is
not
confirming
and
therefore
unable
to
be
reused
for
commercial
purposes.
As
all
rights
to
previous
land
uses
have
been
lost,
the
non-conformity
of
the
building
is
contributing
to
its
vacancy,
as
the
design
is
not
suitable
for
residential
uses.
G
G
There
is
also
low
density
housing
located
along
lowry,
avenue
north
these
properties
are
located
in
the
r4
district.
There
are
reasonable
uses
of
the
property
under
the
r4.
Multiple
family
district,
however,
uses
allowed
in
the
residential
zoning
districts
are
limited
to
housing
and
a
small
handful
of
low
impact
commercial
uses
in
1999
the
site
was
zoned
c1
again
in
november
of
2010,
a
lowry
avenue
rezoning
study
occurred
and
after
the
rezoning
study
was
adopted,
the
site
was
down
zoned
to
the
r4
district.
G
G
Next
slide,
please,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
place
a
20
foot
long
by
eight
foot
wide
by
nine
foot
tall
shipping
container
between
the
building
and
the
front
property
line.
The
shipping
container
would
be
oriented
north-south
and
would
parallel
the
building
again.
The
shipping
container
would
be
located
six
feet
from
the
front
property
line
and
just
over
six
and
a
half
feet
from
the
north
interior
side
property
line
next
slide.
Please.
G
The
applicant
is
also
proposing
a
700
square
foot
deck
between
the
building
and
the
front
property
line.
The
majority
of
the
deck
is
located
outside
of
the
required
front
yard.
Only
one
foot
of
the
deck
is
located
in
the
required
front
yard,
but
still
requires
the
variance
staff
finds
that
practical
difficulties
do
not
exist
and
comply
with
the
ordinance,
because,
because
of
circumstances
unique
to
the
property,
the
shipping
container
and
deck
would
only
need
to
be
shifted.
Nine
feet
to
the
west
to
be
located
outside
of
the
required
front
yard.
G
The
limited
size
of
the
building
footprint
allows
ample
opportunity
to
place
these
site
elements
outside
of
the
required
front
yard
next
slide.
Please
yard
controls
provide
for
the
orderly
development
and
use
of
land
and
to
minimize
conflicts
among
land
uses
by
regulating
the
dimension
and
use
of
yards
in
order
to
provide
adequate
light,
air
open
space
and
separation
of
uses
when
the
property
was
last
used
for
commercial
purposes,
there
was
a
dumpster
enclosure
and
a
six
foot
high
fence
located
in
the
required
front
yard.
G
G
The
applicant
has
indicated
that
the
shipping
container,
coupled
with
the
eight
foot
tall
fence,
is
meant
to
serve
the
same
function
as
the
previous
fence
and
dumpster
enclosure
staff
finds
that
the
request
is
reasonable.
In
that
regard,
locating
a
shipping
container
and
a
deck
in
the
required
front
yard
will
alter
the
essential
character
of
the
locality
and
would
be
injurious
to
the
use
and
enjoyment
of
other
property
in
the
vicinity.
G
G
The
building
is
oriented
towards
lowry
avenue
north.
Although
upton
avenue
north
is
the
established
front
yard
for
the
block,
when
the
site
was
used
as
a
gas
station,
there
was
a
dumpster
enclosure
located
between
the
building
and
the
front
property
line,
as
well
as
a
six
foot
high
fence
along
the
north
interior
side
property
line.
According
to
the
survey
that
was
submitted
dated
in
1989,
the
six
foot
high
fence
ran
from
the
front
property
line
to
almost
the
east
wall
of
the
subject.
G
G
Fences
located
in
the
required
frontier
shall
not
exceed
three
feet.
In
height,
the
maximum
fence
height
may
be
increased
by
one
foot
or
up
to
four
feet.
If
constructed
of
open
decorative
ornamental
fencing
materials
that
are
less
than
sixty
percent
opaque,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
construct
an
eight
foot
tall,
solid
wood
fence
between
the
shipping
container
and
the
existing
building.
G
The
fence
would
be
located,
14
feet,
4
inches
from
the
front
property
line
or
8
inches
into
the
required
front
yard.
The
fence
would
not
be
located
in
the
required
5
foot,
north
interior
side
yard
setback,
as
it
would
be
located
just
over
six
and
a
half
feet
from
the
north
interior
side.
Property
line.
G
Practical
difficulties
do
not
exist
in
complying
with
the
ordinance,
because
the
circumstance
is
unique
to
the
property.
The
fence
would
only
need
to
be
shifted.
Eight
inches
to
the
west
to
be
located
outside
of
the
required
front
yard
standards
governing
fences
are
established
to
promote
the
public
health
safety
and
welfare,
encourage
an
aesthetic
environment
and
law
for
privacy,
while
maintaining
access
to
light
and
air.
The
proposed
request
to
locate
the
fence
in
the
required
front
yard
is
not
reasonable
or
in
keeping
with
the
spirited
intent
of
the
ordinance.
G
It
is
reasonable
to
shift
the
location
of
the
fence.
Eight
inches
to
the
west,
to
comply
with
the
fence,
height
regulations,
building
top
fences
and
required
front
yards
can
alter
the
essential
character
of
a
locality
and
building
tall
fences
and
required
front
yards
can
be
injuries
to
the
use
and
enjoyment
of
other
property
in
the
vicinity.
G
B
H
B
H
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G
I
Hi,
I
have
a
question
for
stop.
I'm
sorry,
it
got
so
dark
while
I've
been
sitting
here
that
you
probably
can't
see
me,
but
my
camera
is
on.
Oh
my
gosh,
but
I
had
a
quick
question
for
you,
hillary.
So
what
does
the
city
recommend?
You
know
you're
kind
of
in
a
predicament
reading
through
this
this
packet
from
mr
weebly
about
you
know
wanting
to
have
a
privacy
fence
wanting
to
host
events
wanting
to
be
a
good
neighbor
wanting
it
to
be.
You
know
six
feet.
I
For
that
reason,
I'm
confused
kind
of
what
the
city
wants.
You
know
having
a
three-foot
fence
and
you're
gonna
have
complaints
from
residential
neighbors
nearby.
You
know:
what's
what's
the
best
option
for
him?
If
that's
the
you
know
like,
I
guess
I
don't
really
understand
why
the
city
is
denying
this
considering
what
the
use
would
be
for
for
this
space.
I
G
H
All
right,
excellent
first,
thank
you,
hillary
for
one
being
a
guide
through
this
land
use
application.
We
greatly
appreciate
all
your
work
and
thank
you
to
the
planning
commission
for
taking
time
today
to
hear
us
out
I'll,
be
brief
and
and
in
hopes
to
get
on,
I
know
we
have
some
technical
difficulties,
so
I'm
going
to
make
some
slight
modifications
to
our
presentations
just
in
the
essence
of
time.
So
again
my
name
is
chris
webley.
I
am
the
founder
and
ceo
of
new
rules.
H
H
H
H
So
a
lot
of
we
a
lot
of
black
and
brown
artists
and
creators
are
officing
out
of
it
much
different
from
any
co-working
space
that
you
might
label
us
with
our
space
functions
as
a
makerspace,
so
we're
focused
on
mobilizing
small
businesses
and
entrepreneurs
and
artists
who
need
equipment.
So,
if
you've
ever
been
to
our
facility,
you
know,
there's
industrial
sewing
machines.
There's
a
director
garment
screen,
printer,
a
commercial
kitchen,
that's
licensed
to
the
state
for
culinary
there's:
podcasting
equipment,
you
name
it.
We
have
it.
H
The
community
needs
and
how
they
need
to
use
the
space
to
show
up
whether
it
be
for
a
re-pass
for
breathing
or
for
birthday
parties.
We've
been
that
reflection
of
what
the
community
needs,
and
so
the
culmination
of
those
experiences
are
what
led
us
to
needing
to
expand
our
operations
right
now
we
have
a
lot
of
activities
happening
in
one
location
and
they
need
to
separate
out
now
that
we've
flushed
out
the
business
model.
What
works
for
community?
What
works
for
us
and
now
scaling
that
at
our
second
location,
which
will
be
new
rules.
Two.
H
So
we
have
a
hodgepodge.
What
we're
trying
to
build
is
a
network
of
properties
again
that
help
folks
get
to
freedom
and
in
our
network
of
properties,
we
have
our
flagship
location,
which
we
talked
about
on
larry.
Where
we
got
started,
we
have
the
speedway
site
where
it's
going
to
be
an
extension
of
our
current
activities
on
larry
and
an
extension
of
incubator
space.
H
E
H
Out
to
awh
architects,
they
are
some
drawing
killers.
They
they
did
an
amazing
job
with
this,
but
here
is
a
visual
rendering
of
how
we
visualize
the
space
being
activated.
So
you
can
see
the
depth
to
the
left.
You
know
all
of
our
we've
covered
in
the
environment
that
we're
operating
in
and
our
design
philosophies
as
an
organization
to
design
open
spaces
transparency
in
our
process,
but
also
to
in
our
design
process
as
physically.
How
we
design
spaces
is.
H
It
shows
up
in
all
of
our
spaces,
so
our
lowry
location
has
garage
doors
on
all
three
garage
door,
storefronts
to
create
that
openness
and
connection
to
community.
I
can't
spout
out
the
name
of
the
amount
of
people
and
connections
that
just
having
that
level
of
openness
has
created
for
curiosity,
for
people
who
are
walking
by
kids,
who
are
walking
by
curious
to
know
what's
going
on
in
the
space
and
coming
in
and
learning
more
and
being
present
in
that
moment.
H
So
a
lot
of
what
you.
What
we
will
talk
about
today
is
a
reflection
of
what
we
know
to
be
a
reality
to
creating
social
impact
in
neighborhoods
and
to
create
social
impact.
It
starts
with
design.
If
we
don't
design
this
space
right,
we
will
not
have
the
social
impact
that
we
that
we
must
have
to
create.
The
change
that
we
want
to
have
next
live
so
just
to
run
through
the
site.
I'll
be
brief.
H
H
The
shipping
container
being
isolated
to
where
it
is,
creates
that
connectivity
on
the
west
side
of
the
building
and
connects
it
to
the
front
public
sidewalk
and
plaza
that
we
have
planned
moving
the
shipping
container
as
we
get
into
some
of
the
later
slides.
We'll
you'll
see
some
of
the
practical
difficulties
that
exist
as
it
relates
to
our
ability
to
to
function
effectively
in
our
in
our
gift.
H
We
should
be
on
the
materials
slide.
I
won't
go
into
too
much
here
other
than
new
rules.
We
specialize
in
really
creating
really
high-end
products.
I
firmly
believe
that
we
have
to
rethink
design,
especially
in
black
and
brown
neighborhoods,
as
it
relates
to
creating
a
product
that
people
feel
a
sense
of
pride
and
I'll.
Give
you
a
quick
example
during
the
uprising.
H
We
did
not
board
up
our
lowry
location,
which
has
18
foot
garage
door,
storefronts
that
I
spent
60
grand
and
installed
with
my
own
two
hands,
and
I
was
like
I
just
I
installed
his
amount
of
two
hands.
I
will
be
darned
if
I
put
nails
holes
in
this
brake
metal
and
ruin
the
storefronts,
and
so
we
naturally,
how
do
we
counteract
this?
H
People
physically
in
the
community,
our
neighbors,
have
helped
build
our
location,
whether
it's
unloading,
materials
from
a
truck
or
helping
me
board
up
the
property
at
the
end
of
the
night,
because
we're
done
working
everybody's
been
a
part
of
it,
so
that
that
fabric
is
integral
into
how
we
design,
space
and
and
and
and
crucial
in
that
in
that
regards
next
slide,
we
should
be
on
the
variance
request
slide
so
again,
here
the
variance
for
the
shipping
container
f
sense
height
public
deck.
I
won't
next
slide
old
slide.
H
This
slide
should
show
the
original
super
america
survey
again
won't
be
the
dead
horse.
Hillary
already
notated
that
there
was
a
previously
in
its
original
glory.
A
oh,
I
shouldn't
say
glory
because
it
was
eyes
or
to
the
community,
but
the
trash
cans
as
well
as
the
fence
line.
You
can
clearly
see
annotated
and
the
red
markings
which
show
how
it
was
originally
designed
next
slide.
H
So
here
we're
at
3125
sheridan
avenue
north,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
shipping
container
and
what
I
would
consider
the
front
yard,
basically
for
what
I'm
hearing
today,
as
well
as
a
structure
for
kids
to
play
on
a
great
this
center.
I
know
the
owner
personally,
through
my
work
on
the
lowry
corridor,
great
institution
landmark
destination
in
the
in
the
location,
providing
adequate
child
care.
H
Is
a
a
blessing
to,
and
I
guess
a
testament
to
the
work
that
they're
doing
next
slide,
so
we
should
be
at
2610.
So
this
is
my
neighbor
directly
to
the
east
of
2618,
great
brothers.
The
owner
have
the
owner
of
this
shop
has
been
greatly
supportive
of
our
project
and
gone
immensely
out
of
his
way
from
signing
the
zoning
application
to
to
just
being
an
emotional
support.
Through
this
process
you
can
see
we
have
in
what
I
would
consider
again
the
front
yard
where
the
parking
lot
is.
H
You
can
see
cars
obviously
parked
up
to
the
fence,
which
I
know
to
be
a
brick
and
mortar
fence,
which
is
eight
foot
tall,
followed
by
the
house
behind
it
next
slide,
so
we
should
be
at
27.06
lowry,
the
home
of
2ds,
miss
lilly
and
nick
love
them
to
death.
Great
again,
another
institutional
landmark
in
the
neighborhood.
That's
been
there
for
years
models.
The
same
footprint
that
existed
at
the
previous
location
that
we
talked
about.
As
you
can
see,
there
is
a
fence.
H
So
we
should
be
at
the
variance
requests
so
again
just
recapping
sort
of
what
we
talked
about
today.
Under
current
conditions.
You
know
our
main
priority
for
everything
we
do
is
consideration
of
our
neighbors.
If
we
are
not
good
neighbors
to
our
neighbors,
we
we,
we
cannot
exist
in
this
realm
and
if
you
ask
any
of
my
neighbors
who
are
our
neighbors,
that
are
our
neighboring
neighbors
of
our
current
location.
E
H
H
Started
from
a
design
perspective,
conversation
with
awh
around
protecting
our
neighbors
and
making
sure
that
we're
being
the
best
neighbor
possible
the
design
so
also
two
current
conditions.
You
know
we're
at
a
point
in
our
design
process
where
missing
this
design
or
this
planning
commission
approval
really
inhibits
our
ability
to
stay
on
track
as
it
relates
to
a
project
managed
perspective.
I
know
that's
not
you
guys's
problem,
that's
our
problem
for
not
being
earlier,
but
in
terms
of
social
impact.
H
Our
plans
are
to
launch
this
space
next
spring
soft
launch
and
then
full
launch
in
the
summer
and,
as
you
guys
know,
from
the
first
brisk
winter
first
day
of
winter.
Today,
if
we
miss
that
summer
window,
we
miss
the
opportunity
to
really
have
a
successful
launch
and
thus
carrying
us
into
the
winter
months
to
give
us
some
cushion
the
cushion.
We
know
we
need
economically
to
stay
afloat
during
the
winter
months,
I
won't
beat
the
dead
horse
of
the
current
conditions.
H
H
H
I
would
argue
that
that
the
uniqueness
of
our
model
is
is
relative
to
how
we're
designing
this
space
from
a
programming
perspective,
and
so
I
hope
that
through
this
presentation,
we've
helped
address
some
of
those
practical
difficulties
and
if
I
haven't
drilled
it
home
enough
I'll
end
with
our
again
social
impact
of
the
broken
window
syndrome.
You
know
I
always
tell
folks
some
panels
and
business
owners
going
through
this
journey
that
we
are
on.
If
you
want
marginal
change,
you
do
something
marginally
different.
H
If
you
want
drastic
change
and
systemic
change,
you
do
something
drastically
different
as
an
engineer
by
trade,
I
I
think
we
can
all
attest
to
same
input,
equals
same
output
and
so
new
rules.
Our
name
was
centered
around
modeling,
a
new
set
of
behaviors
that
doesn't
exist,
and
so
I
think
we
all
agree
on
this,
call
that
we
care
about
our
neighbors,
our
neighbors,
being
those
who
are
on
the
north
side,
while
they
might
not
be
our
literal
neighbors.
H
It
ensures
that
we're
not
impacting
the
ability
that
we
currently
have
have
nurtured
to
nurture
creativity
and
innovation
in
this
space.
You
know
my
biggest
concern
as
a
as
the
brain
child
behind
this
organization
is
I'm
taking.
If
we
change
the
design
of
this
space,
it
changes
the
cash
flow
ability
of
the
site
which.
J
H
The
it's
already
a
million
dollars
tdc,
which
means
my
mortgage
payment,
is
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
six
grand
a
month,
which
is,
I
won't
even
say
how
much
more
it
is
more
than
our
current
location.
But
it
means
that
this
project
has
to
have
some
real
economics
and
so
changing
the
the
the
site
layout
will
inhibitly
change
our
business
model
of
how
we
currently
structure
this
site
to
cash
flow.
One
of
my
biggest
beliefs,
we're
not
a
non-profit.
We
are
a
for-profit
entity,
we're
benefit
corporation,
but.
E
H
H
And
providing
300
000
and
a
seat,
a
commercial
property
development
loan
fund
to
this
project.
Those
types
of
funds
allow
this
property
to
be
accessible
to
stay
accessible.
As
we
continue
to
change
the
layout,
it
increases
the
demand
for
cash
flow
because
we
don't
have
the
square
footage
to
program
the
space,
how
we
need
it
so
I'll
just
end
their
lat
next
slide.
H
We
are
always
looking
for
thought
leaders,
partners,
stakeholders
in
this
work,
so
if
you
guys
are
interested
in
following
up
with
this
conversation,
we
are
our
doors,
are
literally
an
open
door,
as
you
heard
earlier,
with
our
design
with
garage
doors.
So
I
would
love
to
continue
to
build
this
relationship.
This
will
not
be
the
last
time
you
see
new.
E
B
F
I
have
yeah,
I
have
questions
for
both
both
staff
and
the
applicant,
so
I
guess
I'll
go
ahead
if
it's
okay
I'll
start
with
my
ones
from
for
staff
first,
so
you
know,
the
majority
of
this
commission
is
pretty
new
and
I
don't
recall
many
other
cases
where
we
had
requests
for
fence
approval
like
this.
So
I
think
we
would
all
benefit
from
having
a
more
expanded
primer
on
what
the
existing
policy
is
and
what
what
the
intent
is
and
and
precedence
about
what
variances
have
been
granted
in
the
past.
F
What
practical
difficulties
were
previously
found
so
like
if
someone
can
give
us
more
background
on
that,
like,
for
example,
if
I
had
a
large
dog
that
could
easily
jump
over
a
three-foot
fence,
would
that
be
a
valid
reason
for
me
to
come
to
the
planning
commission
and
say
like
I
need
a
five-foot
fence,
or
something
like
that
like?
Would
that
be
an
an
acceptable
practical
difficulty
like
that?
I
have
a
large
dog
or
like
can?
K
There's
allowances
for
fences
to
go
up
to
four
feet
in
height
between
you
know,
basically,
the
rear
wall
and
the
front
wall
as
long
as
you're
a
certain
distance
away
from
your
neighbor
and
then
in
the
required
front
yard.
Fences
can
be
up
to
three
feet
in
height,
it's
more
common
for
fences
to
be
located
in
the
rear
yard
than
in
the
front
yard.
In
cases
of
a
front
yard
fence.
It's
often
an
issue
with
sight
lines
for
a
fence
to
be
taller
than
three
feet
in
height.
K
We
do
allow
for
fences
to
go
up
to
four
feet
in
height
if
it's
what's
considered,
open
and
decorative.
In
this
case,
I
believe
the
portion
of
the
fence-
that's
six
feet
in
height,
is
a
foot
or
two
in
the
required
front
yard.
So,
in
order
for
them
to
comply
with
the
ordnance,
they
would
only
need
to
shorten
the
fence
by
that
amount.
K
F
Okay
and
then
you
said
six
feet,
but
the
request
is
for
eight
feet
right,
and
then
that
was
the
key
thing
for
me
is.
It
seems.
It
seems
to
me
that
the
precedent
for
the
six
foot
one
would
justify
a
six
foot
one
here
like
we
would
normally
grandfather
that
in
except
that
there
that
they
took
it
out
when
the
gas
station
was
removed.
F
G
Sure
I
mean
this
is
the
residential
front
yard,
for
the
adjacent
property
and
all
of
the
properties
on
upton
avenue
north
on
this
block
face
and
so
putting
a
shipping
container
in
an
eight
foot.
Tall
fence
would
be
injurious
to
that
adjacent
property
owner.
It
also
would
and
could
set
precedent
for
those
adjacent
properties
to
put
tall
things
in
their
front
yards,
and
so,
instead
of
walling
off
every
property,
we
are
recommending
denial
of
these
two
applications
so
as
to
not
create
a
wall
along
the
street.
F
G
G
F
Okay
and
then
one
more
question
for
you
and
then
I'll
I'll
alternate
over
staff.
So
so
the
conditions
are
different,
because
this
is
residential
but
we're
you're,
approving
rezoning
to
commercial
right
or
you're
recommending
approval
for
that.
So
so
I'm
confused
about
why
the
residential
restrictions
still
apply
if
you're
supporting
that.
F
F
H
To
as
the
community's
needs
evolve,
we
want
our
spaces
to
evolve
with
those
needs,
and
so
as
the
ideas
that
as
they're
building
self-sufficiency
and
resiliency,
that
our
spaces
can
now
matriculate
to
other
value-add
products.
And
then
I
guess
so.
In
that
vein,
I
guess
there.
There
is
an
element,
as
you
can
tell
from
the
design
and
the
other
pieces
that
we
don't
like
our
product
are
anything
that
we
designed
to
be
ice,
or
so
it
was
like
how
do
we?
H
How
do
we
juxtapose
a
traditional
container
ship
and
make
it
feel
like
art?
We're
a
bunch
of
design,
nerds
and
design,
kids
and
all
we
do
is
geek
out
over
art
and
really
cool
design,
and
so
it
was
like.
Well,
let's
not
put
a
shipping
container.
That's
an
eyesore
like
I
showed
earlier.
Let's
create
something
that
at
least
as
nice,
as
my
neighbor
again
in
consideration
of
them.
H
All
right
guys,
this
big-ass
shipping
container
in
in
this
front
yard,
but
it's
really
really
nice,
and
so
that
you
know
mitigates
people
spray
painting
on
it
and
graffiti
and
things
of
that
nature
and
the
slew
of
other
things,
and
also
too
gives
us
the
versatility
that
if
we
buy,
we
will
be
building
more
spaces.
And
so,
as
those
new
spaces
come
online.
The
need
for
this
storage
container
shifts
and.
F
E
H
Become
something
else
to
your
point,
and
so
yes
for
the
foreseeable
future.
You
know
we're
talking
several
years
before
we
make
that
transition
to
where
we
we
see
that
self-sufficiency,
but
yes,
you're.
You
are
spot
on
in
your
and
that
our
reference
to
seeing
the
future
within
how
we
are
designing
the
space.
H
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
who
the
technical
specialty
is
to
validate
if
the
location
of
it
is
an
impedance
from
a
traffic
perspective
and
safety
and
violence
perspective.
But
those
are
my
two
priorities
as
we
think
organizationally
about
design,
and
so
there
are
those
don't
exist,
and
so
I
thought
it
was
key
to
mention
that
there
are
no
impedance
to
the
stop
sign
and
things
of
that
nature
that
would
inhibit
or
create
a
car
wreck
or
or
promote
violence.
H
H
Yard
to
it
now
being
my
front
yard,
and
so
I
think
me
doing
something
different
honestly
sticks
makes
our
site
stick
out
like
an
eyesore
and
that
it
doesn't
honor
the
current
fabric
that
exists.
You
know
we
designed
into
that,
but
then
it
looks
a
little
bit
more
seamless,
whereas
opposed
if
we
do
something
different
and
relocate
it
to
a
different
part
of
the
site.
H
But
then
it
just
looks
like
it
doesn't
feel
natural
with
the
fabric
and
from
a
design
perspective,
and
I'm
sure
everybody
on
the
commission
can
attest
to
the
understanding
of
keeping
things
in
sync.
So
and
then
the
last
piece
that
I
mentioned
with
the
storage
unit
is
that
again
everything
we
do
is
art
based,
so
everything
that
we
do
is
always
going
to
be
over.
H
K
F
K
It's
very
rare
that
they
approve
offense
height
variants.
I
don't
know
of
any
that
have
been
approved
recently.
I
know
staff
nearly
always
recommends
denial
and
the
board
of
adjustment.
I
think
rarely
overturns
that
you
know
you
could
go
into
limbs
and
go
through
some
agendas,
but
I'm
not
aware
of
any
recent
examples.
K
H
L
G
Okay,
I
think
the
variance
for
the
shipping
container
and
the
deck
still
stand
because
they're
still
located
in
the
front
yard.
So
if
you
took
the
site
plan
and
you
if
you
approve
the
vent,
the
fence
variants
well,
if
you
denied
it,
they'd
have
to
move
it
eight
inches
and
then
everything
else
would
shift.
So
the
variance
for
the
shipping
container
is
still
needed
because
it's
still
in
the
front
yard,
gotcha.
L
G
L
Perfect,
thank
you.
Those
are
my
questions
for
staff.
I
do
have
a
couple
comments.
Do
you
want
me
to
wait
until
we're
done
with
questions
for
staff
chair?
You
can
go
ahead
if
you
want
okay,
I
guess
my
comments
are.
I
I
probably
have
a
unique
perspective
on
this,
because
I
had
the
privilege
of
living
one
block
away
from
their
existing
location
for
four
years.
L
This
is
kind
of
what
we've
been
looking
for.
It
meets
a
lot
of
the
comprehensive
plan
goals
of
like
creative
amenities
that
support
like
bipod
communities.
So
to
me,
like
it
kind
of
takes
all
of
those
boxes
and
in
terms
of
the
shipping
container
variants,
I
would
also
be
supportive
of
that.
I
think
they
are
trying
to
activate
that
space
and
it's
kind
of
what
commissioner
marwan
the
applicant
said
of
like.
L
I
guess-
maybe
commissioner
didn't
say
this-
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
your
mouth
like
if
you're
going
to
do
what
you
always
did
you're
going
to
get
what
you
always
got.
I
think
they're
trying
to
do
something
really
unique
and
inventive
in
a
place
that
has
not
seen
investment
in
a
really
long
time.
L
So
as
like
a
neighbor,
a
neighbor
and
somebody
again
who
lived
right
there,
I
live
on
upton
right
now,
I'm
very
supportive
of
both
of
the
variances
in
the
project
in
general
and
just
like
really
want
to
see
this
investment
take
place.
I
do
think
in
terms
of
like
the
practical
difficulty,
for
a
variance
consideration.
I
do
think
it's
reasonable.
I
think
the
property
is
very
unique
and
I
think
north
minneapolis
is
a
unique
situation.
I
My
comments
are
somewhere
in
vain
with
commissioner
mcguire
I
also
I
was
looking
trying
to
be
better
about
making
sure
there's
a
comp
plan
goal
to
support
what
I
my
comments
and
you
know,
there's
an
entire
goal
on
helping
entrepreneurs
on
the
north
side
specifically
do
creative
projects
and
build
wealth
in
that
community,
and
I
think
my
standing
on
wanting
to
approve
this
variance
is
based
on
that
I've
seen
chris's
space
the
neural
space
a
number
of
times.
It
is
absolutely
amazing.
Their
design,
aesthetic
is
on
point.
They
are
so
creative.
I
They
have
such
nice
kind
of
artistic
goals.
When
it
comes
to
this,
I
have
no
doubt
that
whatever
the
space
they
create
with
that
shipping
container
will
be
in
that
vein.
I
think
this
is
the
exact
type
of
development
that
I
love
to
see
in
the
city.
It's
creative,
it's
interesting!
It's
different!
It's
unique!
I
M
I
have
a
question
and
then
I'm
not
done
with
my
comment.
So
the
fence
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
The
fences
is
directly
on
upton,
or
is
it
directly
on
lowry,
and
the
shipping
container
is
on
upton
on
the
side
of
the.
If
you
were
looking
at
the
building
to
the
left
of
the
building,
is
that
correct
or
is
it
the
wall
is
next
to
the
ship?
The
shipping
cart,
I'm
confused
on
that
part.
So
could
that
be
answered
for
me
quickly.
G
So
you
can't
see
my
mouse,
so
you
can
see
the
shipping
container
in
the
front
yard
and
then
the
deck
is
the
striped
area.
If
you
will
between
the
shipping
container
and
then
the
existing
building,
you
can
see
that
the
eight
foot
fence
then
runs
between
the
shipping
container
and
the
corner
of
what
would
be
a
small
building
addition
on
that
northwest
corner
of
the
building.
M
Perhaps
this
particular
project
could
also
become
a
gateway
for
for
other
folks
to
consider
doing
some
kind
of
upkeep
on
their
own
existing
properties.
On
lowry,
and
again
I
speak
to
the
cultural
district
that
lowry
avenue
is
actually
going
to
become
there's
a
banana
blossom
that
closed
incredible
potential
for
commercial
space.
There's
the
oriental
market,
that's
probably
a
kitty
corner
from
the
the
original
new
rules.
So
as
much
as
I
hate
to
ask,
what
are
you
willing
to
compromise
in
order
to
make
this
happen.
H
J
H
The
time
we
start
designing
spaces
and
stuff,
we
don't
review
this
call
any
differently
than
we
would
view
asking
our
neighbor
hey.
How
should
we
design
this
space
and
so
I'm
open?
I
guess
I
am
so
I
think
in
hillary's
support.
It
recommends
a
nine
foot
container
ship.
How,
as
I
understand
it,
shipping
containers
come
in
10,
15
and
20
feet
and
longer
I
am
amenable
to
compromising
you
know.
Can
we
go
to
a
15
foot?
H
H
Also
too,
it
immediately
gives
us
the
need
to
store
more
storage,
so
part
of
how
we
backed
into
a
20-foot
container
ship
was
primarily
based
off
of
the
stuff
that
the
sheer
amount
of
stuff
we
have
now
that
needs
a
storage
home,
and
so,
while
it
doesn't
it
would,
it
would
be
great
to
centralize
it
at
one
location
from
an
operations
management
perspective.
You
know
if
I
got
to
have
a
guy
going
to
another
site
and
then
bringing
it
to
this
site.
H
It
just
increases
our
operational
cost,
which
increases
the
cost
to
the
folks
that
we're
looking
to
serve
so
again.
It
doesn't
make
it
impossible,
but
I
just
say
as
we're
talking
about
compromise
from
a
design
lens.
I
want
us
to
keep
in
mind
these
social
entrepreneurs
that
we're
supporting,
because
we're
also
too
asking
them
to
compromise
who
are
and
they're
not
on.
This
call
to
be
able
to
make
a
case
for
themselves
of
being
able
to
keep
a
roof
over
their
families
by
the
means
of
what
we're
creating.
M
M
J
Thank
you,
yeah
I'd
like
to
just
join
in
everybody's
comments
about
being
supportive
of
the
project.
Obviously,
I'm
also
familiar
with
the
location
there
at
lowry
that
has
been
sitting
far
too
long.
There's
no
question
that
that's
blight
on
you
know
the
city
generally
and
the
neighborhood
specifically,
and
that
putting
something
there
you
know
I'm.
I
was
really
happy
to
see
this
location
on
the
agenda.
J
You
know
the
site
that
you
get
is
the
site
that
you
get
and
there
are
rules
and
regulations
that
apply
that.
Sometimes
you
know
you
just
maybe
can't
do
exactly
what
you
want
on
it
and
I
guess
what
I'd
say
about
the
variance
request
is
that
the
requirements
for
that
to
override
staff
recommendation
would
be
that
we
would
have
to
make
specific
other
findings
about
those
factors
that
go
into
a
variance
which
is
separate
from
finding
that
there
are
comp
plan
goals
that
support
it.
J
I
will
say
that
I
the-
and
I
know
that
the
applicant
I'm
sure
knows
this-
that
the
concerns
about
the
economic
viability
of
the
project
and
all
that
really
can't
enter
into
our
discussion
here.
We
can't
we
can't
make
our
decisions
based
on
the
considerations,
unfortunately,
that
the
applicant
has
to
think
about,
which
is
how
to
make
this
work.
J
From
an
economic
point
of
view,
and-
and
so
too
I'm
hesitant
for
this
planning
commission
to
get
into
discussions
of
negotiations
about
how
what
the
trade-offs
might
be,
I
think
they're
good
questions
but,
as
the
applicant
has
said
himself,
all
the
stakeholders
who
he
would
have
to
answer
to
you
know
aren't
on
this
call,
and
I
and
I'm
quite
sure,
wouldn't
have
anticipated
some
of
those
questions.
So
I'm
hesitant
to
do
that
and
then
and
then.
J
M
M
J
It's
it's
not
what
I
thought,
commissioner
caprini.
It
was
just
a
comment
generally
because
it
was
coming
up
in
other
conversations
too
about
some
of
the
trade-offs.
So
no
it
wasn't.
It
wasn't
meant
to
be
pointed
that
way.
It
was
just
a
general
remark
about
these
things
that
we
get
into
as
well.
What
about
this,
or
if
you
cut
this
or
you
cut
that,
so
it
was
just
a
general
remark,
so
I
hope
no
offense
taken.
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
I'm
not
seeing
any
more
commissioner
comments
right
now,
so
we
do
still
have
the
public
hearing
open.
So
I
am
going
to
see
if
there
is
anyone
else
on
the
line
who
we
don't
have
any
registered
speakers.
But
if
there's
anyone
on
the
line
who
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item,
you
can
do
so
now.
You
would
press
star
6
to
unmute
yourself
and
then
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
proceed
with
your
comments.
D
Thank
you.
I
am
in
the
absence
of
any
discussion
or
any
other
motions.
Beyond
what
we've
seen
from
the
staff
report,
I've
got
to
say
that
I
agree
with
the
comments
of
commissioner
sweesy
much
as
I'd
love
to
see
this
work.
Somehow
we
have
not
been
presented
with
any
any
information
which
would
counter.
What's
in
the
staff
report
and
absent
that,
I
will
be
voting
no.
I
G
B
I
Understood,
I
think
I
mean
I
think
this
this
city
hasn't
made
to
me
a
very
compelling
argument
against
denying
the
setback
either
about.
Why
I
mean
it
seems
like
the
applicant
has
laid
out
why
it's
so
important
that
this
needs
to
exist
for
this
property
I
mean
the
shipping
container
in
essence,
is
its
extension
of
what
would
be
a
building
project
he's
it's
used
in
that
exact,
same
format.
I
K
So
for
the
variance
application
yeah,
you
would
need
to
make
the
first
finding,
which
is
that
there's
practical
difficulties
unique
to
the
property
here
that
results
in
the
need
for
a
variance.
So
that's
typically
the
first
hurdle.
You
know
the
staff
report
was
rather
matter-of-fact
in
that
case
and
that
we
did
not
find
any
practical
difficulty
here
in
complying
with
the
setback,
not
that
the
shipping
container
is
a
bad
idea,
but
in
this
location
it
would
need
a
variance
and
we
did
not
find
any
practical
difficulty.
K
I
F
F
B
C
B
F
Yeah
first
I'll
just
say
a
few
things
about
it.
You
know
I.
I
feel
that
this
is
in
an
area
that
has
a
commercial
character
and
that
commercial
character
could
very
plausibly
increase.
You
know
I'm
on
the
bot,
no
light
rail
planning
committee,
and
you
know
it's
possible
that
the
light
rail
could
go
on
on
this
route.
F
So
I
think
that's
one
thing
to
recognize
is
just
the
the
commercial
nature
of
the
space
consistent
with
the
rezoning
that
we
disproved,
and
you
know
this
would
be.
This
is
a
large
lot
for
residential
space,
but
it's
kind
of
a
small
lot
for
a
commercial
space.
So
I
would
identify
that
as
a
practical
difficulty,
just
a
small
lot
size
making
it
difficult
to
include
the
different
components
that
the
applicant
wants
to
see.
L
E
L
D
K
F
M
B
A
Good
evening,
vice
president
olson
and
commissioners,
my
name
is
matt
hannon.
I'm
with
public
works,
transportation,
engineering
and
design,
and
I'm
here
to
present
the
proposed
street
renaming
of
diet
avenue
public
works
received
a
request
from
council
member
andrew
johnson
on
september
29
2021
to
rename
dight
avenue
to
cheatham
avenue
between
34th
street
east
and
43rd
street
east
public
works
staff
reviewed
the
application
to
ensure
that
it
complied
with
the
city's
street,
naming
ordinance
and
policy.
A
A
A
A
A
B
N
N
Frankly,
and
in
this
case
we
had
somebody
that
led
to
the
forced
sterilization
of
hundreds
of
minnesotans,
who
was
not
only
essentially
the
chief
proponent
of
eugenics,
but
also
known
as
a
a
huge
supporter
of
adolf
hitler
and
whose
records
are
kept
in
correspondence
with
hitler
kept
by
the
the
minnesota
history
society
as
well.
So
I
think
this
is
an
overdue
change.
N
I
really
appreciate
your
consideration
of
this
matter
appreciate
all
the
residents
that
have
weighed
in
both
in
ward
12
and
the
folks
that
have
been
on
the
street
who've
engaged
around
this
issue,
and
I
know
this
is
a
welcome
change
for
many.
That
is
better
reflective
of
our
community
and
the
values
that
it
represents,
and
I'm
happy
to
stand
for
any
other
questions
as
well.
B
B
K
I
did
just
want
to
give
an
update
on
two
appeals
that
went
to
the
biz
committee
of
the
city
council
last
week.
I
think
that
was
last
week
already
on
november
30th,
so
we
had
two
appeals
for
the
project
at
49th
and
france,
the
france
50
project,
those
appeals
were
denied
by
the
biz
committee,
so
upholding
the
planning
commission's
decision
on
those
applications.
K
But
that's
the
update
there
and
the
appeal
for
the
signs
at
north
point
clinic.
We
had
an
appeal
for
sign
heights.
That
appeal
was
granted,
so
staff
had
recommended
denial
of
the
sign
height.
The
planning
commission
had
agreed
with
the
staff
recommendation
and
the
city
council
did
overturn
that
decision.
In
effect,
granting
the
sign
height
requested
by
the
applicant
and
granting
that
variance,
so
that
is
it
for
my
updates
this
evening.
Thank
you.
K
If
you
could
just
reply-
and
let
me
know
we're
trying
to
do
some
advance
work
to
find
out
if
we'll
have
a
quorum
for
that
meeting,
knowing
that
it's
pretty
close
to
the
holidays-
and
I
have
heard
from
several
of
you
so
thank
you
to
those
of
you
that
I've
heard
from
if
I
don't
hear
from
you
I'll,
just
assume
that
you'll
be
able
to
make
it.
So.
Thank
you.
M
I
just
have
a
quick
comment.
I
will
not
be.
I
will
be
at
the
january
third
meeting,
but
this
I
will
not
be
a
commissioner
for
the
next
cycle
of
commissioners.
I
have
had
an
amazing
time
on
this
commission.
I've
learned
so
much
and
this
last
vote
it
just
it
was
a
blessing
to
me
and
the
work
that
I've
been
able
to
learn
from
all
of
you.
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
and
that's
it
and
also
enjoy
the
rest
of
the
year.