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From YouTube: June 16, 2021 Arts Commission
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A
B
Thank
you
good
evening.
My
name
is
joan
vorderbergen
and
I
am
the
chair
of
the
minneapolis
arts
commission
before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
note
that
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statutes,
section
13d
.021,
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role
so
that
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum.
A
D
E
B
B
B
Okay,
so
we'll
adopt
the
agenda.
We
have
to
change
an
item
on
our
agenda.
Commissioner,
mansfield
has
asked
to
pull
item
number
nine
on
the
consent
agenda,
the
green
crescent
final
design
from
consent
to
discussion.
D
G
B
Thank
you,
and
can
you
call
the
role
tina
please.
H
C
A
B
H
I
D
B
That
motion
passes
thanks
everyone,
okay,
next
up
introductions
and
before
we
start
today,
I've
invited
commissioner
thompson
to
kick
off
our
introductions
just
by
taking
a
little
extra
minute
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
her
being
that
she's
new,
and
so
thank
you
for
offering
to
take
a
moment,
commissioner
thompson
to
introduce
yourself
and
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
you
and
then
I'll,
introduce
myself
and
then
we'll
start
with
tagging
each
other.
Okay.
C
F
Yeah,
thank
you
thanks.
Everybody
yeah,
I
just
felt
like
I
didn't
get
enough
chance
to
introduce
myself
last
time
so
I'll
just
take
a
minute
now,
so
most
of
my
career
has
been
spent
as
a
city
planner
with
the
city
of
st
paul,
and
that's
really
where
my
public
art
experience
comes
from.
I
worked
on
various
public
art
initiatives
for
the
city
of
st
paul.
We
updated
the
public
art
ordinance.
F
I
worked
on
a
kind
of
an
interdepartmental
committee
between
the
department
of
planning
and
economic
development,
public
works
and
parks
and
recreation
to
implement
the
public
art
ordinance.
So
a
great
a
great
thing
in
saint
paul
there's
a
lot
of
interdepartmental
cooperation
on
initiatives
and
we
updated
the
ordinance
under
a
mayor
that
really
wanted
all
of
these
departments
who
have
a
kind
of
touch
public
art
in
st
paul
to
work
together.
So
we
set
up
a
kind
of
an
interdepartmental
committee
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
is
implementing
the
ordinance
per
ordinance.
F
The
saint
paul
ordinance
actually
has
a
planning
requirement
where
you're
hiring
not
only
the
typical
percent
for
art
for
public
infrastructure
projects,
but
if
you're
doing
any
kind
of
master
planning
process,
any
consultant
team
has
to
have
a
public
artist
on
it.
And
so
we
I
oversaw
many
planning
projects
that
had
a
public
artist
on
the
team,
so
that
function
wasn't
really
to
decide
where
to
put
public
art.
But
it
was
to
have
a
broader
definition
of
public
art
as
a
community
engagement
tool.
F
F
So
I
think
that
was
really
useful
and
then
we
also
created
kind
of
a
manual
on
how
to
implement
the
public
art
ordinance
there,
which
is
kind
of
complicated.
F
But
it
helps
staff
in
each
of
the
departments
who
don't
work
with
public
artists,
all
the
time
to
figure
out
as
they're
doing
a
parks,
project
or
a
public
works
project.
How
to
solicit
interest
from
artists
for
city
work,
and
you
know
kind
of
various
calls
for
art
and
stuff
like
that.
So
so
I
have
a
lot
of
policy
background
in
public
art,
so
I'm
I'm
excited
right
now
to
get
involved
in
the
ordinance
work.
It's
been
really
interesting.
F
I
am
retired
now
I
retired
almost
two
years
ago,
so
this
has
been
now
a
fun
new
endeavor
for
me
to
kind
of
get
back
into
some
of
the
policy
work.
I
did
so
anyway,
thanks
for
the
opportunity-
and
I
just
really
happy
to
be
here
and
learn
from
all
of
you
and
I
look
forward
to
when
we
can
be
in
person
and
we
can
all
see
each
other
in
person.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
thompson.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
or
comments
or
anything?
You
can
raise
your
hand
if
you
do
I'm
trying
to
watch.
B
I
think
I'll
just
comment
that
that
that
experience
is
amazing
and
was
part
of
you
know,
obviously
why
we're
selected
to
join
us
and
join
our
group.
So
thank
you
for
sharing
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
your
incredible
work,
history
and
supporting
artists
in
the
city.
So
that's
great.
B
Okay,
so
moving
on
to
introductions
of
the
commissioners,
I
guess
I'm
just
gonna,
you
know
we're
gonna
do
what
we
normally
do,
introduce
ourselves
the
word
pronouns
and
and
if
you
want
to
just
give
a
quick
update
about
how
you're
doing
really
briefly,
that
would
be
awesome.
I
am
joan
vorderbruggen,
I'm
the
director
of
hennepin
theater
district
engagement
for
hennepin,
theater
trust.
I
represent
words
three
and
seven.
B
I
am
excited
for
our
conversation
tonight.
That's
how
I'm
doing
I'm
kind
of
anxious
about
it.
It's
a
lot,
but
I'm
I'm
excited
it's
nice
to
be
able
to
have
a
robust
conversation
about
big
decisions.
So
I
am
going
to
tag
commissioner
brinkman.
I
C
G
Swinton,
hello,
everyone,
my
name
is
jeff
swinton.
I
represent
ward,
seven
and,
like
joan
super
excited
for
the
meeting.
We
have
some
guests
that
they're
going
to
introduce
themselves
later,
but
super
excited
about
that
and
and
I'm
a
layperson
so
more
on
the
collecting
end
of
art
and
not
in
the
heart
administration,
but
a
lover
of
art
and
and
that's
where
my
passion
is
so
and
I'd
like
to
tag
commissioner
mansfield.
D
J
My
mute
button
is
still
on
a
four
second
delay.
Apologies
hi.
My
name
is
mandy
bedbury,
I'm
in
ward
10..
This
is
my
third
year
on
the
commission
as
an
artist.
I
am
an
improv
artist,
commercial
actor
in
the
city
and
I
also
teach
professional
development
using
improv
as
a
tool.
J
That's
kind
of
what
bodega
is.
I'm
super
excited
it's
so
fun
to
have
guests
and
so
fun
to
learn
about
new
organizations
so,
and
also
I'm
excited
about
the
ordinance
there's
just
a
lot
of
movement
happening,
hopefully
in
a
positive
direction.
So
that's
exciting,
so
more
work.
We
can
do
the
better
and
I'm
going
to
tag.
Commissioner
smith.
E
Hey
I'm,
commissioner,
david
smith,
I'm
one
of
the
late
persons.
I
represent
ward
one
yeah.
I'm
really
excited
to
kind
of
review
review
these
big
changes.
That
should
be
pretty
interesting.
I'm
looking
forward
to
hearing
what
everybody
has
to
say
and
what
the
ramifications
are
are
really
going
to
be,
and
I
will
tag
commissioner
midag.
K
Hey,
I
am
lisa
midday
I
am
in
ward
2..
I
also
work
like
joan
does
downtown
so
work
in
words,
3
and
ward
7..
I
believe
my
position
is
a
layperson,
but
this
is
my
final
year
of
six
years
on
the
commission,
so
I
might
have
transitioned
from
one
kind
to
another.
K
I
am
excited
to
be
back
to
work
downtown
full
time
and
we're
planning
the
downtown
street
art
festival
and
have
sort
of
relaunched
the
nicolette
makers,
in
conjunction
with
the
downtown
farmers
market,
which
has
been
a
lot
of
work.
But
it's
super
exciting
to
be
welcoming
people
back
downtown
who
have
this
extraordinary,
creative
output.
I
need
to
tag
somebody
and
I'm
looking
at
a
very
tiny
screen.
I.
H
A
Hi
I'm
tina
beech.
I
I
work
in
sorry.
I
just
look
like
I'm
sorry,
I'm
fine,
I'm
in
maryland,
so
just
trying
to
get
my
thoughts
together.
I
am
a
program
assistant
leader
minneapolis.
I
support
mission
and
looking
forward
to
this
meeting.
That's
why
I'm
here
I
wanted
to
say
so.
I'm
excited
for
everyone,
so
I'm.
L
M
Hey
everyone
gilgame
km
director
of
arts,
culture,
creative
economy,
workout
at
the
city,
coordinator's
office
and
boy.
I'm
excited
for
this
entire
meeting.
There's
a
lot
of
interesting
conversations
and
interesting
people,
so
yeah.
Thanks
for
for
doing
this.
N
Hello,
all
I'm
danielle
shelton-volchek.
N
I
am
the
director
of
strategic
initiatives
for
the
city
coordinator's
office
and
I'm
one
of
the
many
people
who
have
been
working
on
the
arts,
ordinance
work
in
the
enterprise
and
I'm
excited
to
hear
what
y'all
have
to
say,
but
also
just
the
the
rest
of
the
agenda,
too,
is
really
I'm
going
to
echo
gogoons
sentiment.
So
I
think
I'm
going
to
learn
something
here.
So
thanks
for
the
invite.
B
Thank
you
for
being
here
it's
great
and
then
we're
going
to
ask
our
guests
to
introduce
themselves,
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
have
a
little
bit
more
business
to
do
before
we
get
to
our
discussion
and
our
presentation
by
rojo.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
patience.
We
are
so
excited
clearly
for
you
to
be
here
but
I'll.
Ask
rojo
if
you
want
to
introduce
yourself.
O
Hi
everyone
thank
you
for
all
the
positive
words
that
you've
said
thus
far.
We're
excited
to
be
here
also.
My
name
is
kara
deans
and
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
rohawk.
P
Collective
and
my
name
is
christopher
aaron
deans.
I
am
the
director
for
rojo,
collective.
Yes,
we
we
are
very
excited
to
talk
with
you
all
a
lot
of
great
things.
We
have
happening
and
a
lot
of
great
things,
I'm
hearing
that
other
folks
have
happening
and
we're
very
interested
in
partnership.
B
Q
Yeah,
thank
you.
It's
a
joy
to
be
with
you
all,
I'm
kino
ival,
I'm
the
founder
and
director
of
the
black
people,
blind
people,
arts
cooperative
in
south
minneapolis,
where
I'll
pay.
What
you
can
our
co-op
for
black
folks
in
the
state
of
minnesota
in
the
state
of
minnesota,
doing
work
at
the
crossroads
of
art,
civic
engagement
and
community
organizing
I'm
glad
to
be
here.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
coming.
Are
there
any
other
guests
on
the
call
that
we
missed.
B
Awesome.
Okay.
The
next
item
is
an
announcement
about
the
creative
response
fund,
the
community
well-being
grant.
I
will
be
sending
this
group
more
information
that
golgoon
has
provided,
but
it
is,
there
is
an
open
call
right
now
and
the
there's
a
panel
opportunity
for
a
commissioner
to
participate
in
there's
a
250
dollar
stipend.
B
The
panel
meeting
date
is
on
july,
20th
from
nine
until
noon.
There
is
an
info
session
on
july
or
I'm
sorry
on
june,
28th
from
10
to
11.
So
there's
two
meetings
if
you
are
interested
in
participating
as
a
panelist
for
the
creative
response
fund,
community
well-being
grant
please
reach
out
to
me,
and
I
will
direct
you
to
where
you
need
to
go
and
thank
you
in
advance
for
anyone
who
might
be
interested
in
that
opportunity.
L
Hey,
madam
chair,
this
is
mary.
I
think
we
do
have
one
more
guest
mark
peterson
appears
to
be
in
the
meeting,
so
he
might
not
want
to
introduce
himself,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know.
B
Okay,
that's
that's!
Okay,
too,
all
right
any
other
additional
announcements
that
anyone
wants
to
share.
B
Okay,
so
we'll
move
on
to
a
consent
agenda.
We
are
recommending
approval
of
these
recommendations
as
amended
the
2021
recommendations
to
mac
artwork
to
maintenance
and
conservation
recommendations.
My
apologies,
the
mac
recommendation,
is.
B
I'm
sorry,
mary,
I
am
going
to
need
your
help
here
because
for
some
reason
this
is
not
transporting.
For
me,
the
2021
maintenance
and
conservation
recommendations
recommend
approval
of
the
recommendations,
as
amended.
B
B
B
May
I
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
consent,
agenda
items,
number
seven
and
eight
maintenance
and
conservation
and
curry
park
final
design.
D
I
A
G
S
E
B
R
B
Thank
you
to
tina
for
being
here,
while
you're
away.
Okay,
so
the
highlight
of
our
evening,
we
get
to
talk
to
robo
collective,
christopher
aaron
and.
L
B
It
is
pulled
for
discussion
and
I'd
like
to
do
it
last.
Oh
last,
okay,
okay,
thank
you!
Sorry,
christopher
aaron
and
kara
deans.
Could
you
go
ahead
and
thank
you
for
being
here
we're
all
super
excited
and
we've
been
wanting
to
meet
with
you
for
many
many
months.
So
I
also
want
to
just
thank
commissioner
swinton
for
the
great
outreach
that
he's
been
doing,
bringing
folks
to
the
to
the
meeting
tonight
so
go
ahead.
O
Well,
thank
you
so
much
yeah.
I
think
we
were
slotted
to
talk
to
you
all
sometime
before
the
new
year
and
then
things
happened
and.
O
It's
good
to
see
some
familiar
faces
on
on
the
call
and
yeah
thanks
for
having
us
so
we'll
just
kind
of
share
a
little
bit
about
rojo
and
what
we've
been
up
to
and
and
what
we're
doing.
Yeah.
P
So
I
was
pulling
up
my
little
bit
of
I
had
a
presentation
from
other
introductions
that
we
did
so.
The
rojo
collective
is
a
non-profit
organization,
nonprofit
arts
organization
that
started
in
2015,
and
it
is
an
organization
that
supports
brown
artists.
P
Those
are
the
artists
that
are
musicians,
visual
artists,
sculptors,
photographers
dancers,
actors,
you
name
it
so
we
have.
We
have
a
very
eclectic
group
of
visual
artists
that
we
support.
Rojo
is
swahili
for
spirit
and
soul,
and
it
is
our
our
network
and
what
we
do
is
we
support
artists
of
color
in
their
individual
businesses.
P
So,
for
example,
the
workshops
that
we've
offered
this
year
have
been
like
tax
preparation
workshops
for
those
businesses.
We've
done
grant
writing
workshops,
we
we're
doing
artist,
statement
and
artist
writing
workshops
and
identifying
and
talking
about
your
work
as
an
artist
and
as
a
professional
artist.
P
P
I
mean,
there's
a
lot
of
alongsides
with
our
projects,
but
we
have
public
art
partnerships
to
do
a
lot
of
that
work,
and
we
have.
We
have
organizations
that
we
partner
with
for
funding
for
individual
projects
for
artists.
We
do
workshops
in
the
community
that
are
specific
to
art,
heels,
events
that
have
really
taken
shape
after
the
murder
of
george
floyd.
P
So
we've
done,
I
believe
five
art
heels
events
at
this
time
where
we
would
go
out
into
the
community
and
have
our
artists
do
live
art
with
the
community,
where
the
community
is
able
to
do
work
and
kind
of
a
call
and
response
manner
to
create
small
canvas,
murals
dancing,
yoga,
free
food,
free
art
supplies
for
kids
and
families.
O
And
we
also
have
therapists
that
come
to
each
of
our
event
and
we
kind
of
have
a
little
network
if
you
will
of
folks
that
we
pull
from,
but
so
families
and
community
members
really
have
a
chance
to.
O
You
know
we're
either
doing
circle
conversations
or
just
having
information
available
for
folks
to
connect
with
which
I
also
think
is
a
really
beautiful
element
to
to
that
process,
and
so,
along
with
the
yeah,
along
with
the
business
development
aspect
of
the
rojo
collective,
we
also
work
to
partner,
connect
and
amplify
our
members,
and
so
how
we
do.
That
is
a
few
ways
if
you
go
to
our
website,
you'll
see
them
on
our
website.
O
So
that's
a
part,
and
then
we
really
work
to
create
partnerships
with
different
companies
and
organizations
around
that
put
artists
in
positions
to
be
able
to
work
or
apply.
Or
what
have
you
so
I
mean
just
today.
O
There
was
two
different
on
our
that
we
have
as
a
collective
there's,
two
different
job
positions,
opportunities
and
one
is
just
just
for
rojo,
and
so
we
really
work
hard
to
be
able
to
create
partnerships
that
are
exclusive
to
members
of
our
organization
so
that
they
have
opportunities
that
are
presented
only
to
them,
and
I
think
that's
one
thing:
that's
a
huge
benefit
to
membership
and
really
special
and
unique.
O
So
there's
one
for
a
summer
program
teaching
position
and
they
will
have
that
school
has
agreed
to
choose
from
artists
within
our
network,
we're
also
working
with
minneapolis
public
schools
on
a
artist's
residency
for
next
year,
and
it
could
hire
almost
up
to
seven
artists
from
all
kind
of
mediums
to
be
working
in
the
minneapolis
public
school
systems
and
with
teachers
we
have
a
contract
with
mortenson
construction.
O
As
you
know,
in
the
city
they
are
really
working
to
reface
a
lot
of
the
properties
that
they
have.
So
I
think
that
one
is
us
in
another
organization,
as
they
are
working
to
do
the
public
artwork.
They
are
looking
for
collective
members
that
are
already
within
our
network.
So
those
are
just
some
of
the
kind
of
examples
that
you
know
we're
offering
for
and
to
our
members.
What
is
really
cool
is
that
we
have
members
and
other
we
have
members
in
chicago.
O
We
have
members
in
new
york,
we
have
members
in
california
and
that's
kind
of
newer
as
of
this
year
that
they're
just
like.
Well,
I
live
here,
but
can
I
still,
you
know,
participate
and
be
a
part.
C
G
C
O
I'm
not,
you
know,
of
course,
we're
geared
towards
our
our
area
and
I
was
like-
and
I
can't
you
know,
promise
of
you
know
how,
how
I'll
be
able
to
help
and
serve
and
in
some
of
the
connections
piece,
but,
of
course,
the
business
development.
The
training
and
all
of
that
which
we
are
finding
is,
is
such
a
huge
piece
for
our
artists
and
our
and
our
collective
members.
Right
now.
I
think
we're
almost
up
to
maybe
40
members,
and
it's
really
just
our
artists
talking
to
their
artist
friends.
O
We
don't
really
do
a
push
or
anything
for
for
membership.
It's
really
just
kind
of
word
of
mouth
and
real
grassroots
right
now
and
we're
also
looking
at
space.
So
we
will
be
having
a
brick
and
mortar
space
soon.
So
I'm
really
excited
about
that.
We've
partnered
with
chameleon,
which
is
how
I
met
lisa,
and
so
we
will
be
getting
space
soon
and
so
to
have
a
fine
arts
gallery
in
the
heart
of
our
city.
That
represents
black
and
brown
artists.
B
Yeah,
thank
you.
That's
I
mean
that
last
detail
kind
of
makes
me
go
whoa
so
exciting.
Oh,
my
goodness,
awesome
does
anyone
have?
Oh,
I
would
well
if
it's
okay,
to
comment
that
also
you
know,
rojo
has
been
so
just
generous
in
the
different
ways
that
you
show
up
in
community
and
and
all
of
the
tentacles
that
the
creative
community
that
you
have,
that
I
was
helping
a
shelter
over
in
north
minneapolis,
haven,
housing
and
they
wanted
a
curatorial
panel.
B
So
that
was
another
way
that
we
were
able
to
reach
out
to
rojo
and
say:
hey
like
that,
would
be
really
cool
if
y'all
could
curate
and
and
for
you
know,
a
stipend
and,
of
course,
but
like
there's
just
so
many
ways
that
you're
talking
about
how
you
show
up
and
different
all
the
different
ways
in
community.
I'm
learning
a
lot
tonight
too.
I'm
curious.
If
anyone
has
any
questions
for
cara
or
christopher
aaron,.
G
Yeah
this
is
commissioner
swinton,
like
everyone
just
said
so
thrilled
for
you
guys.
You
know
to
be
here
to
to
learn
more
kind
of
talk
to
us.
How
do
you
think
I
know
you
guys
and
some
of
your
you
guys
and
some
of
your
artists
have
worked
with
the
city
talk
through
kind
of
that
process?
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
in
terms
of
you
know
how
we
could
do
better
as
a
commission
and
how
we
can
work
closer
together.
P
Yes,
so
there's
four
of
us
artists
in
the
collective
that
are
public
artists
and
I've
worked
with
the
city
in
different
capacities
before
or
mainly
as
public
artists.
Throughout
that
process,
there
there's
like
some
nuances
to
the
work
that
has,
I
would
say,
grown,
and
so
there
are
some
new
systems.
P
That's
been
put
in
place
in
the
last
few
years
for
artists
and
artist
calls
which
are
the
rfps
in
our
excuse,
and
it's
it's
a
little
difficult
to
navigate,
and
so
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
would
like
to
do
is
we
would
like
to
have
so
maybe
someone
on
your
commission
to
come
out
and
have
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
walk
our
artists
through
that
process.
P
P
We're
looking
to
try
to
connect
in
a
more
intentional
way
to
allow
us
as
artists
to
to
thrive
in
those
areas,
because
the
continuation
of
that
work
is
really
a
high
demand
like
here
I
say
we
have
a
partnership
with
mortensen
and
a
few
other
partners
that
are
doing
some
public
art
work
or
allowing
us
to
do
public
art
work
as
partnerships
with
them,
but
we're
definitely
interested
in
doing
public
art
work
with
the
cities
and
with
the
state
as
well.
P
So
if
that
bri,
if
that
gap,
can
be
bridged,
that
would
be
pretty
awesome.
O
I
think
too,
sometimes
the
language-
and
I
was
going
back
and
forth
with
email
today
with
somebody
we're
in
a
unique
position
as
an
organization,
because
we
are
a
like
a
legal
501c3.
Of
course
we're
able
to
apply
for
grants
and
things
like
that.
O
But
for
public
art,
it's
a
little
interesting
caveat
gap,
because
most
of
those
fundings
are
open
just
to
individual
artists
and
not
for
organizations
and
actually
like
say
if
your
organization
cannot
apply
but
we're
a
little
bit
different
and
unique
and
where
we
do
have
this
collective.
So
we
really
have
a
inner
workings
of
a
team
already
built
within
our
system.
O
O
You
know
have
that
kind
of
language,
but
a
lot
of
art
focused
rfps
and
fundings
are
for
individuals
as
opposed
to
organizations
and
then,
if
they
are
for
organizations
they
are
for,
like
the
walker
or
you
know,
really
large
museum
institutions,
and
so
there
is
this
kind
of
real
kind
of
gap
in
the
funding
world
for
art
organizations
that
lie
such
as
ourselves
with
not
like
a
million
dollar
plus
budget.
But
are
you
know
out
doing
the
work
in
the
community
and
and
for
our
collective
members?
So.
P
And
I'll
say
also
as
an
outlier,
the
language
in
particular
is
constructed
for
architectural
entities
and
not
necessarily
visual
or
fine
artists.
That's
that's
breaking
into
that
construct
of
public
art
realm.
So
in
some
facets.
Yes,
the
need
to
make
sure
that
that
those
languages
are
in
place
is
very
appropriate,
but
I
think
that
it
should
come
after
the
call
the
there
should
be
like
a
secondary,
secondary
documents
that,
after
you've
won
the
call.
P
These
are
some
stipulations
that
can
be
walked
through
to
understand,
but
on
as
a
tertiary,
but
as
the
first
step
it
should.
It
should,
on
its
face,
be
simple:
it
should
be
readable,
legible
for
the
approaching
of
the
artist
to
to
get
in
and
have
that
proposal
fulfilled
yeah.
I.
This
is
kind
of
where
we're
at
with
that.
P
S
O
Well,
I
would
say
that
the
first
is
that
they
would
be
available
for
organizations,
because
I've
seen
a
lot
of
those
come
through
and
they're
for
individual
artists
and
as
an
organization
we
can't
apply
and
it
gets
tricky
like
if
we
were
to
have
you
know
a
group
of
our
artists.
Of
course
they
can
apply
which
sometimes
they
do
on
the
on
the
you
know,
foundation
of
the
work
that
we're
already
doing
as
an
organization.
O
So
as
a
as
the
finance
and
grants
writer
person,
that's
what
that's
what
I
would
say.
I'm
sure
you
have
a
different
perspective
as
an
artist.
Well,
a
lot.
P
Yeah,
so
a
lot
of
those
proposals
are
specific
to
neighborhoods
and
areas
so
like
there
would
be
or
regions
right,
there's
some
there's
some
that
are
regional.
P
There
are
some
that
are
like
south
minneapolis
or
northeast
grant,
proposals
that
are
open,
but
as
an
organization
we
represent
artists
in
all
these
different
spaces,
and
so
the
proposal
can't
come
from
us
or
can
it
that
it's
it's
unclear
in
the
language,
and
so
that
that
that
is
definitely
some
conversation
that
we
need
to
have
maybe
bring
shed
some
light
on
those
pieces.
B
Thank
you.
I
think
I've
been
taking
some
notes
and
some
takeaways
here
that's
been.
It's
been
really
generous
thanks
for
those
comments
and
questions
and
the
authenticity
and
your
answers
of
what,
where
the
opportunities
could
be
for
ourselves
and
for
staff,
to
consider
how
we
might
close
some
gaps
in
accessibility
to
for
opportunities
that
are
forthcoming.
B
So
that's
always
really
appreciated
anything
else
in
closing,
you're
very
welcome
to
stay
on.
If
you
wish,
you
you're
welcome
to
continue
on
with
us
too
and
or
be
on
your
way
with
your
evening,
whichever
you
choose
so
just
know,
we
are
very
very
grateful
that
we
could
spend
some
time
with
you
tonight
and
learn
a
lot
about
rojo
and
and
hopefully
be
as
supportive
as
possible
moving
forward.
O
Oh,
I
was
just
thanking
you
guys
for
having
us
on.
We
really
appreciate
and
glad
we
were
able
to
make
it
work.
We
will
send.
I
was
supposed
to
send
jeff
some
information,
but
I
will
send
all
the
stuff
we
have
going
on
this
summer.
We'd
love
to
see
you
guys
out
in
the
community
rocking
with
us
so
yeah.
I
will
sing
that
along.
R
B
Thanks
all
right,
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
number
11,
which
is
the
update
on
art,
stabilization
process.
B
Let's
see
here,
I'm
sorry,
I
need
to
look
at
the
chat,
because
I
think
I
have
a
agenda
that
wasn't
amended
right.
My
apologies
for
a
moment,
okay,
general
updates,
timeline
and
status,
so
I'm
not
sure
danielle
or
golgoon,
which
one
of
you
would
like
to
just
give
us
an
update
about
where
this,
where
we're
at
and
with
the
timeline,
and
if
you
are
not
ready
to
provide
that
information,
I
do
have
some
that
I
can
as
well
would
either
of
you
like
to
speak
to
this.
M
N
All
right,
thank
you
all
for
the
invite
again
and
nice,
seeing
you
danielle
shelton
balchack,
like
I
said
the
director
of
the
strategic
initiatives
for
the
state
coordinator's
office,
she
her
and
hers.
So
the
update,
I'm
actually
really
excited
we
are.
I
don't
want
to
jinx
it,
but
we're
in
the
final
stretch
and
after
many
years
of
having
this
conversation,
and
so
the
update
on
the
timeline
is
as
follows.
N
So
today,
actually
this
afternoon
at
pogo
on
the
consent
agenda,
it
was
agreed
to
put
to
have
a
public
hearing
going
forward.
You
always
have
to
go
through
those,
you
know
incremental
steps,
and
so
that
was
approved
today,
and
we
have
two
public
hearing
dates
slated
one
for
june
30th
and
another
one
for
july
21st,
and
so
it's
actually
going
to
be
held
over
a
public
hearing
usually
ends
after
that
date.
N
We're
actually
going
to
have
two
dates
in
pogo
to
get
public
comment
from
individuals
who
want
to
sign
up
and
discuss
their
thoughts,
whether
they
approve
of
or
disapprove
of
forming
an
arts
department
they'll
be
able
to
do
that
on
june,
30th
and
july
21st,
and
the
reason
we
had
some
conversations
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
decided
to
have
the
public
hearing
extend
for
two
days
to
pogo
days
or
a
cycle
is
over.
N
Two
cycles
is
because
you
know
we
haven't
created
a
new
department
since
2008,
and
so
creating
a
department
is
a
big
deal
in
the
city
enterprise
and
then
also
you
know.
N
Part
of
this
is
that
we're
asking
for
this
department
to
be
funded
through
taxpayer
dollars
and
general
fund
monies
that
come
into
the
enterprise,
and
so
it's
really
important
for
us
to
hear
from
the
constituents
on
how
they
feel
about
it
and
to
give
people
enough
time
to
to
voice
their
their
opinions
about
the
creation
of
this
department,
and
so
if
an
individual
doesn't
want
to
sign
up
to
actually
speak
at
the
public
hearing,
comment
will
be
open,
like
would
be
a
letter
or
what
have
you
will
be
open
starting
on
june
30th
and
throughout
that
whole
entire
time,
closing
on
july
21st,
if
someone
wants
to
just
you
know,
put
in
a
comment
to
to
the
city
clerk's
office,
and
it
then
it
goes
into
the
actual
formal
record
for
the
creation
or
non-creation
of
the
department.
N
So
on
june
july
21st
the
public
hearing
will
close
and
then
the
art
staff
and
some
other
department,
other
departments
will
make
a
presentation
about
recommendations
regarding
what
financial
supports
for
the
department
and
that
presentation
will
come
come
at
the
end
of
the
public
hearing
and
essentially
we'll
just
outline
it's
intended.
N
But
it
has
not
been
solidified
by
any
stretch
of
the
imaginations,
but
it's
intended
that
we
will
give
recommendations,
having
worked
with
finance
about
potential
ways
that
we
can
fund
this
department
and
then
city
council
members
will
go
from
there
after
so
pogo
will
actually
have
to
vote
the
that
committee
will
actually
vote
on
july
21st
on
whether
or
not
to
create
the
arts
department
and
move
that
approval
to
the
city
council
meeting,
which
will
be
that
follow
that
next
friday,
let
me
look
at
it
friday.
N
N
So
that
is
where
we
are
at
the
the
proposed
the
proposed
I'm
sorry,
my
dog
is
the
proposed
ordinance
has
been
was
uploaded
in
limbs,
so
it's
open
for
public
viewing.
I
believe
that
you
all
have
gotten
a
link
to
it
and
so
yeah.
I
think
that's
the
that's
the
brief
update
that
we
have
right
now.
M
I
should
also
add
that
in
the
acc
newsletter
we
announce
the
opening
of
the
ordinance
and
a
link
to
it,
and
then
it's
also
posted
on
the
acc
website
and
I
think
mary
also
distributed
it
through
her
list
serves
so
it's
it's
out.
There.
B
Thank
you
so
much
so
we
are
going
to
have
a
broader
discussion
about
this,
but
does
anyone
at
the
moment
have
any
questions
about
the
process
and
the
timeline
and
the
points
of
you
know
anything
for
golgon
and
danielle
while
they're
here,
I
don't
see
anyone's
hands
up.
B
If,
if
I
don't
see
your
hand,
you
are
welcome
to
speak
okay,
okay,
so
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
an
update
on
the
letter
that
we
sent
in
support
of
the
or
of
the
advancement
of
the
stabilization
effort
and
commissioner
ellsworth.
If
you
just
want
to
give
a
brief
update
for
us
about
what
what
transpired.
H
Sure
thing,
first
of
all,
just
a
big
thank
you
to
everyone
for
the
unanimous
support.
Last
month's
meeting
to
approve
sending
the
letter
over
in
support
of
art
stabilization
tino
is
very
gracious
to
make
sure
that
council,
members
and
staff
all
received
that,
and
I
think
it's
it's
really
nice
to
be
able
to
have
a
voice
for
mac
as
a
whole
to
be
able
to
be
in
support
of
that.
We're
continuing
that
work
here
and
we're
going
to
be
talking
a
little
bit
more.
How
each
commissioner
can
be
a
part
of
that
next.
H
I
would
like
to
note
that
we
didn't
get
any
direct
feedback.
I
didn't
receive
any
emails
or
hear
from
any
commissioners
who
got
direct
communication
from
their
council
members,
but
I
do
think
during
this
busy
time.
It
was
certainly
read
and
noted,
and
I
feel
really
good
about
the
communications
that
we've
been
moving
forward.
So
thanks
to
everyone
for
the
support.
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
efforts,
too,
for
in
the
policy
group's
efforts
as
well
to
coordinate
that
and
everyone
that
supported
it.
So,
thank
you
very
much
any
questions
for
commissioner
ellsworth
about
the
letter.
C
B
The
next
item
is
really
ordinance,
review
and
discussion,
so
we,
the
policy,
action,
learning
team
did
meet
and,
of
course,
there's
been
a
lot
of
information
exchanged
and
we
have
been
having
some
great
robust
conversations
about
the
ordinance
we
met
today
to
provide
some
framing
and
some
guidance
about
how
mac
can
support
the
ordinance,
and
you
know
also
what
our
positioning
could
be
and
commissioner
thompson
has
created
some
suggested
edits
for
the
language
just
to
start,
but
before
we
well.
B
Actually
let
me
I'm
going
to
share
this
in
the
chat
and
I'll
also
read
the
suggested
edits,
and
then
I
want
commissioner
thompson
to
just
explain
the
rationale.
So
the
first
one
is
suggested.
Language
would
be
leverage
investments
in
arts
and
culture
to
advance
the
city's
racial
equity,
equality
and
inclusion
goals.
And,
commissioner
thompson,
do
you
want
to
just
speak
to
this
suggested
language
change.
F
I
just
thought
that
a
phrase
like
leveraging
investments
was
just
a
lot
stronger
and
I
looked
at
the
work
group,
presentations
and
report
and
stuff
and
there,
the
language
that
I'm
recommending
here
is
is
more
consistent
with
that
those
documents
in
that
process
talk
about
racial
equity,
equality
and
inclusion.
So
I
just
thought
this
was
a
a
much
more
direct
and
action-oriented
statement
than
just
advance.
It
actually
talks
about
leveraging
investments,
so
I
just
think
it's
stronger
and
I
think
the
we
were
talking
earlier.
F
I
don't
I'm
not
sure
what
cultural
equity
means
in
the
city
of
minneapolis,
but
racial
equity
seems
to
be
a
phrase
that
is
a
lot
more
kind
of
understood
and
used
so
and
it
like.
I
said
it
was
in
the
work
group
presentation
and
in
their
report,
so
so
two
things
I'm
trying
to
strengthen
the
language,
so
this
would
replace.
We
would
be
recommending
this
to
replace
duty
number
three.
F
So
it's
I
think,
leverage
investments
is
stronger
and
use
of
the
word
racial
with
racial
equity,
equality
and
inclusion.
I
think,
is
just
a
lot
more
direct
and
relating
to
all
of
the
work
that
the
worker
put
in
before
this,
so
that
that's
some
recommended
language.
I,
I
guess,
I'm
recommending
for
the
commission's
consideration.
B
Thank
you
and
we
do
have
another
item
but
before
for
suggested
edit
before
we
move
on.
Did
anyone
have
any
questions
or
comments
about
that?
B
F
Yeah
so
a
couple
things
there:
the
there
are
some
duties
that
address
like
state
and
federal
funding
and
kind
of
suggest,
a
constant
revenue
stream,
but
I
just
I
thought
that
it
was
a
little
bit
roundabout
and
so
I
again
I'm
trying
to
just
be
really
more
direct
under
the
duties
thing
and
be
clear
and
in
the
worker
report
and
presentation
this
constant.
You
know
a
dedicated
revenue
stream
came
up
again
and
again
and
again
so
this
would
be.
F
This
would
not
replace
any
of
the
current
ones,
but
it
would
just
be
more
specific
to
local
revenue
stream,
and
I
guess,
goku
or
maybe
danielle
talking
earlier
about
the
general
fund
dedication.
It's
good
to.
I
didn't
know
that
that
was
part
of
the
conversation,
but
I
just
think
this
is,
and
this
would
be
a
duty
of
the
department
over
time.
So
it's
just
a
consistent
thing
that
the
department
would
be
doing
so.
F
N
Madam
chairman,
I'm
sorry
this
danielle
may
ask
a
question
so
I'm
clear
about
the
recommendation
sure
so
on
number,
so
on
number
10
you're
recommending
that
it
adds
into
all
of
that
also
a
dedicated
revenue
stream
in
that
in
that
list
of
items
and
in
in
bullet
10.
I'm
trying
to
I'm
trying
to
understand
commissioner
thomas.
F
Yeah
thanks
for
the
question
I
I
was,
I
was
suggesting
it
as
as
an
additional
duty-
oh
okay,
but
it
could
be
incorporated
in
that,
but
I
I
just
thought
it
was
important.
There's
a
lot
in
that
one
in
number
10,
so
I
I
was
recommending
it
as
a
separate
duty.
Okay,.
B
And
then,
before
I
move
on
with
some
more
key
pieces,
does
anyone
have
any
questions
about
that
specifically
or
comments
okay
and
then,
in
addition
to
the
the
suggested
language
edits
that
commissioner
thompson
generously
provided
and
that
we
discussed?
B
We
also
would
like
to
draft
a
letter
of
support
that
that
includes
this,
as
well
as
an
expectation
for
the
next
phase
of
the
development
of
the
department
to
so
that
the
minneapolis
arts
commission
has
a
continued
and
a
meaningful
role
in
shaping
this
department
and,
as
the
work
looks
to
chapter
36,
that
we
are
at
the
table
and
able
to
be
an
active
member
of
that
discussion
and
an
active
party
in
developing
the
department.
B
So
the
policy
committee
is
committed
to
drafting
that
letter
on
behalf
of
the
arts
commission.
But
this
evening
we
do
need
to
have
a
vote
on
the
two
suggested
edits,
as
well
as
the
the
key
point
of
us,
also
including
the
minneapolis
arts
commission,
as
a
key
partner
for
the
development
of
the
departments.
B
And
then
we
are
going
to
work
to
elect
a
speaker
and
we'll
talk
about
that
in
a
minute
too.
But
so
this
is
a
lot
of
information
for
you
all
to
process.
We
have
tried
to
synthesize
it
the
best
we
can,
but
I'd
like
to
just
open
it
up
to
the
rest
of
the
group
for
any
questions,
comments,
concerns
and
I
just
wanna.
I
want
to
support
everyone
that
you
know.
I
know
this
gets
said
and
it's
kind
of
cliche,
but
in
this
instance
it's
really
true.
B
There
is
no
stupid
question
for
a
lot
of
us.
This
is
our
first
time
really
intersecting
in
this
way,
with
policy
and
with
this
process,
and
so
a
lot
of
us
don't
have
a
lot
of
seasoned
experience
in
in
doing
this
work,
and
so
I
just
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
for
learning
alongside
each
other
and
for
being
supportive,
and
I
want
to
welcome
you
to
ask
questions
that
you
might
be
having.
So
I
want
to
open
it
up
to
everybody,
and
then
we
can
move
forward
towards
that
motion.
G
Lisa's
saying
commissioners,
thank
you.
K
I
was
curious,
as
the
the
new
language
was
crafted
if,
if
danielle
or
gagoon
had
in
their
minds
how
they
anticipated
working
with
the
commission
in
the
future,
I
you
know
similarly
to
everyone
else.
I
think
who's
here
was
eager
to
see
how
the
arts
commission
was
going
to
be.
K
You
know,
used
in
this
new
process
and
was
somewhat
concerned
to
not
see
that
really
made
more
clear,
and
so
I'm
really
curious
for
them
like
what
they
were,
what
they
were
seeing
or
reading
in
the
tea
leaves
of
the
information.
They
were
getting
back
from
leadership
about
what
the
role
for
the
commission
could
be
seen
to
be
in
the.
N
Yeah,
so
I,
if
so
a
couple
things
you
you
you
all
should
know
that
when
we
draft
these
ordinances,
we
work
with
legal
very
very
closely
and
you
all
the
commission
is
under
chapter
36,
I
believe,
and
so
when
we
create
ordinances,
we
make
very
the
city.
N
Well,
the
city,
the
city
attorney
has
a
lot
of
roles,
but
one
of
them
is
to
make
sure
that
we
are
not
butting
up
against
already
existing
ordinances
and-
and
I
will
say
contradicting
them
in
any
way,
and
I
think
amy
would
be
better
to
discuss
this,
but
so
we
did
think
about
the
the
role
of
mac,
and
I
think
that
I
said
to
my
my
very
very
first
conversation
with
you
all
is
that,
as
we
see
this
department
growing
or
being
created
right
that
we
see
that
at
some
point
when
we
think
about
the
mac,
we
see
that
for
potentially
that
ordinance
that
we'll
have
to
revisit
the
duties
and
scope
of
what
mac
does
in
terms
of
what
happens
in
the
in
their
influence
in
the
department
you
all's
influence
in
the
department.
N
I
have
intentionally
brought
you
in
and
tried
to.
You
know
repair
a
somewhat
fragmented
relationship
and
I'm
committed
to
doing
that,
and
so
we
were
very.
We
tried
to
be
very,
very
thoughtful
on
making
sure
that
we
weren't,
because
of
the
logistics
of
everything
that
we
weren't
actually
touching
your
ordinance.
At
this
point
we
are
really.
We
were
just
kind
of
very
singularly
focused
on,
let's
create
the
department
and
then
those
other
ordinances
that
that
you
know,
connect
or
will
connect
to
the
department.
N
Then
we
have
to
look
at
in
different
phases,
and
that
was-
and
so
that's
what
we
did,
but
it's
not
as
if
we
created
the
department.
So
I
want
to
be
really
clear
here
because
you
all
have
been
so
supportive,
but
even
if
you
weren't
I
want
to
be.
I
also
want
to
be
clear
that
your
input
and
your
experiences
and
connection
with
community
is
also
important
to
us
too.
N
So
it's
not
that
we
created
the
ordinance
in
in
terms
of
we
were
ignoring
what
your,
what
your
influence
on
it
will
be.
We
were
creating
the
ordinance,
quite
frankly,
very
narrowly
and
singularly
about
let's,
let's
create
the
department
and
then
any
other
ordinances
that
we
might
have
to
adjust.
We
would
do
so
if
a
department
is
created
we're
still
in
the
if
phase.
Quite
frankly,
you
know
this
isn't
a
done
deal,
but
that's
how
we've
been
working.
K
Be
okay,
if
I
just
ask
a
quick
follow-up
on
that
sure
I
I
genuinely
appreciate
danielle
your
description
of
how
like
how
like
challenging
it
is
to
like
really
specifically
define
it,
and
I
get
why
that
makes
that
strategy
that
you
approach
to
try
and
make
it
narrow
make
sense.
So
I
guess
that's
why
I
was
asking
regardless
of
what
it
says,
what
is
your
intention
as
a
department
going
forward
and
how
you
would
like
to
use
the
mac?
Does
that
make
sense?
Oh.
N
Oh
yeah
yeah.
I
think
that
we
would,
as
we
build
and
create
programs
and
foundations
some
foundations.
We
have
solidly
in
place,
like
I
know,
with
mary
and
gogoon
and
their
work,
but
we,
you
know
part
of
this
arts
department-
is
creating
new
programming
to
really
affect
and
invest
in
community,
on
a
very
intentional
way
that
it
would.
It
would
be
it's
wonderful
to
get
and
hear
your
input
from
your
perspective
as
being
either
in
administration
or
individual
artists
or
in
organizations
to
know
those
potential
impacts.
N
As
we
are
developing
things,
I
mean,
I
think
it's
such
a
great.
You
know
it's
really
interesting,
because
I
think
the
example
of
the
we
just
heard
from
rojo-
and
they
were
talking
about
someone-
had
asked
the
question
and
I
apologize
for
not
remembering
who
did
but
about
the
neighborhood
investment
and
how
that
affected
them,
like
that's
only
through
a
conversation
here
and
with
that
organization
that
we
can
then
get.
Oh
here
is
a
gap
here
in
access
that
we
don't,
you
know
necessary.
N
We
don't
want
to
perpetuate,
and
so
I
see
the
mac
helping
us
in
understanding
those
things
because
we're
creating
the
department
to
be
more
inclusive,
to
be
more
intentional
investment
to
support
the
sector,
to
support
arts
internally
too
in
the
city
enterprise
to
make
the
arts
spend
and
our
accountability
more
transparent
to
people,
and
so
that's
how
I
I
see
the
mac
interacting.
F
Yeah,
so
that
was
great,
that
that
was
really
helpful.
Danielle
for
me
to
hear
what
you
just
said.
I
was
wondering
just
given,
though
the
the
first
part
of
the
answer
that
you
gave,
would
it
still
understanding
keeping
those
ordinances
chapter
36
separate
from
what
you
get
you
know
what
we're
proposing
right
now.
F
Would
it
still
be
appropriate,
though,
for
mac
to
say
in
our
comments
somewhere
just
say:
put
it
out
there
for
the
city
council
to
understand
that
we
want
to
continue
to
be
involved
in
discussions
as
the
department
is
created
and
as
it
gets
underway,
and
we
want
this
continued
and
meaningful
role?
Would
that
still
be
important
to
to
say
from
your
standpoint
absolutely
okay.
M
Okay,
okay,
good,
that's
critical,
because
because
the
council
has
been
hearing
from
staff
and
very
much
echoing
what
we
have
heard
again
from
rojo,
I
mean
a
lot
of
what
we
heard
was
is
really
reflected
in
our
recommendations
to
council.
In
terms
of
you
know,
we
don't.
The
city
doesn't
have
a
history
of
supporting
non-profit
organizations,
let
alone
non-profit
arts
organizations.
It
has
very
few
strategies
if
at
all,
so
we
have
made
those
recommendations,
but
I
think
the
council
wants
to
know
how
the
community
feels,
because
they
don't
get
a
sense.
M
These
are
new
council
members.
If
you
recall,
for
those
who
were
around
during
the
road
map
days
when
we
were
creating
the
cultural
plan,
we
heard
similar
things.
However,
these
are
new
council
members,
so
we've
got
a
we've
got
to
ensure
that
those
council
members
are
connecting
the
dots
and
you
are
the
community
in
this
work
for
us,
the
ones
that
paid
attention
and
continue
to
address
the
road
map
and
our
accountability
on
the
on
what
the
community
said
through
that
work
as
well.
M
So
I
feel
that
it's
really
critical,
that
your
voice
is
that
you
that
you
name
what
it
is
and
that
you
address
it,
because
that
we
get
asked
that
all
the
time
and
and
we
need.
We
need
community
to
speak
up.
B
Considerations:
okay,
okay,
so
we
may
be
ready
for
a
motion
to
recommend
approval
of
the
ordinance
with
the
following
key
considerations,
suggested
language
edits
that
we
reviewed
this
evening,
as
well
as
the
consideration
of
the
minneapolis
arts
commission's
meaningful
involvement
in
the
development
of
the
department.
A
Yes,
commissioner,
ailsworth.
H
D
K
B
Aye
that
motion
passes.
Thank
you
everyone.
I
really
appreciate
all
of
the
hard
work
that's
going
into
this
and
the
policy
action
learning
team
will
draft
our
letter
and
it
will
be
available
to
you.
We
are
going
to
be
meeting
about
that
so
before
some
of
these
key
meetings
and
opportunities
for
public
hearing,
which
that
is
the
next
item.
So,
commissioner
ellsworth,
if
you
don't
mind
just
giving
us
a
brief
update
about
that.
H
Sure
thing
thank
you
for
reviewing
the
dates
for
the
public
hearing,
just
to
reiterate
one
more
time,
we'll
also
send
some
email
information
just
to
keep
it
fresh
for
everyone,
but
june
30th
and
then
july
21st
on
june,
30th
being
the
most
important
date
coming
up
right
now,
being
that
after
the
july,
21st
that'll
be
the
close
of
public
comment.
They'll
be
voting
right
after
that.
So
one
item
that
we
were
talking
about
in
policy
is
how
math
wants
to
put
out
the
word
to
the
community
to
drum
up
some
additional
support.
H
You
know:
do
you
have
an
artist
who
you
have
in
mind
who
you
could
recruit
that
might
be
interested
in
speaking
at
a
public
hearing
or
drafting
a
letter?
We'd
also
like
to
open
it
up
to
commissioners.
If
anyone
you
know
would
like
to
throw
their
hat
in
the
ring
to
speak
and
present,
we'll
certainly
be
sharing
the
letter
that
we
draft
on
behalf
of
mac
and,
if
there's
additional
commentary,
that
would
be
very
open.
So
I'd
like
to
take
that
on.
H
If
anybody
wants
to
say
right
now,
yes,
I
would
love
to
be
one
of
the
speakers
or
throw
anyone.
You
know
we're
also
looking
for
a
discussion
around
how
to
best
get
the
word
out.
If
you
have
ideas
other
than
your
general
social
media
or
sending
your
friend
an
email.
This
would
be
a
great
time
to
continue
that
conversation.
L
M
Using
the
on
the
arts,
culture,
creative
economy
website,
it's
minneapoliscreates.org,
it's
posted
as
a
one
of
the
top
items,
news
items
with
links
to
the
ordinance,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
for
folks
with
a
link
to
where
people
can
submit
letters
and
then
sign
up
for
the
public
hearing.
So
just
look
at
that
for
links.
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
for
you
to
share
as
well.
There's
a
subject
heading,
that's
really
important
and
the
legislative
number.
B
K
B
B
I
think
that's
what
we
need
at
a
minimum,
but
if
we
wanted
to
have
more
than
one
individual
speak,
we
can
strategize
around
that
and
commissioner
ailsworth
and
the
policy
team
is
really
happy
to
figure
out
how
to
best
accomplish
that.
So
if
you
decide
later
that
hey,
I
want
a
chance
to
be
able
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
mac
to
the
city
council
that
we
will
support,
support
you.
B
So
I
hope
that
makes
sense
any
other
questions
comments.
Anyone
have
their
hand
up
that.
I'm
missing
okay,
great
job,
you
guys
awesome!
Thank
you
so
much.
The
next
item,
then,
is
vacancy
updates.
I'll,
take
this
first
item
that
commissioner
thompson
was
seated
to
the
executive
committee
and
the
policy
and
advocacy
action
learning
team.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
thompson
for
diving
right
in
we.
So
appreciate
you
so
thanks
and
then
I
would
like
to
pass
it
to
commissioner
bedbury
to
give
us
an
update
about
vacancy
yeah.
J
So
good
news,
we
thought
we
might
have
some
good
news.
The
last
time
we
had
a
meeting
and
we
have
good
news.
We've
decided
to
forward
one
application
further
to
the
confirmation
process
as
it
be.
It
will
be
somebody
who
will
represent
ward
12,
which
was
currently
not
award.
That
has
been
represented,
we're
asking
to
fill
the
admin
seat,
number
16,
which
is
a
a
spot
through
2023..
So
we
want
commitment.
J
No,
that's
not
true,
but
that's
that's
the
hope
and
plan
anyway.
So
it's
pretty
exciting.
So
here's
the
thing
I
don't
know.
If
you
guys
are
aware,
we
have
six
seats
left.
We
have
three
artist
seats,
two
lay
seats
and
one
admin
seat.
So
if
that
gets
your
juices
flown
in
your
brain
of
anybody
that
you
might
have
in
your
head
and
we're
really
really
really
really
really
focusing
on
bipac,
we
want
bipac
in
those
seats
right.
So
anybody
you
have
anybody.
You
can
recruit
it's
eight
hours
a
month
right
like
now.
J
I
feel
like
an
army
recruitment
like
only
eight
hours
a
month
and
you'll
gain
this
much
skill
and
you'll
have
all
of
this
stuff.
You
can
contribute
like.
I
should
have
a
slideshow
behind
me
to
try
to
recruit
people,
but
so
that's
that's
kind
of
what
we're
working
on
right
now.
Also
just
so
everybody
is
aware.
The
application
extension
is
till
june
30th.
However,
we're
just
going
to
keep
asking
to
extend
the
application
as
long
as
it
takes
to
fill
those
six
seats
with
amazing,
bi-pac
talent
and
then
any
yeah.
J
I
guess
I
guess
what
our
what
our
hopes
and
our
dreams
are
is
that
we
can
the
faster
we
can
get
people
to
fill
their
application
and
turn
it
in
the
faster.
We
can
interview
them
with
our
selective
committee
and
we
can
get
them
in
our
meeting
and
that's
kind
of
the
goal,
and
then
they
can
have
a
voice
in
what
we're
going
to
be
voting
on
and
moving
forward
with
and
hopefully
come
to
the
public
hearing
and
and
have
something
to
say
about
everything.
So
I
think
I
got
everything
did
I
forget
anything.
B
You
does
anybody
have
any
questions.
We
we
continue
to
extend
the
application
deadline.
Thank
you.
So
much
tina
you've
been
really
awesome.
It
and
I
know
that
there
was
some
challenges
with
the
link
to
apply.
So
I
think
that's
another
takeaway
that
will
just
with
with
all
of
our
communications,
we'll
continue
to
send
the
link
to
apply.
So
does
anyone
have
their
hand
up
right
now.
B
Okay,
okay,
thank
you.
So
much
for
those
updates
and
we're
gonna
be
really
excited
to
announce
our
new
commissioner.
Should
they
accept
and
everything
goes
well,
but
yeah.
It
was
nice
to
be
able
to
to
interview
someone
that
we
think
will
be
a
good
fit,
so
that
was
exciting.
Thank
you
very
much.
All
right
item
number
13
are
work
plan
updates
the
first
one
just
for
executive
that
we
do
have
open
seats
on
exec
if
anyone's
interested.
B
We
continue
to
have
a
vice
chair
position
open
and
we
have
one
at
large
position.
So
if
you
are
interested
you
know,
let
me
know
if
you
are.
I
said
this
at
our
last
meeting.
That
made
me
laugh,
so
it
might
make
you
laugh,
but
if
you're
exact
curious
you
can
anyone
is
welcome
to
come
to
any
of
our
executive
meetings.
B
You
are
very
welcome
to
just
sit
in
and
see
kind
of
how
it
goes
our
main
priority
and
our
main
function
is
to
really
make
sure
that
we
approve
our
agenda
and
that
we
set
our
agenda.
So
it
actually
is
a
very
important
group
because
you
know
agenda
setting
is
very
that's
some
heavy
decision
making.
B
So
that's
a
lot
of
what
we
do
and
then
we
also,
of
course,
try
to
support
the
rest
of
our
subcommittees
and
being
successful
and
on
finding
out
what
everyone
is
working
on
and
and
if
they
need
any
support.
So
that's
my
executive
update
commissioner
bedbury,
I
didn't
know
if
it
was
you
or
commissioner
swinton
that
was
going
to
give
an
access
and
engagement
update,
quick
just
from
a
learning
action
team
perspective.
I
know
there
was
some
work
that
had
happened.
Yeah.
G
Yeah
and
I
think,
there's
a
hand
up
also,
commissioner.
K
I
just
wanted
to
do
a
plug,
having
served
on
executive
committee
for
most
of
my
time
when
I
was
with
the
council
that
for
any
of
you
who
are
maybe
newer
to
the
council
and
thinking
like
well,
that's
not
me.
Yet
the
answer
is
it's
absolutely
you
and
you
should
volunteer,
because
it's
a
great
way
to
kind
of
dive
in
and
find
out
exactly
what
we
do
and
how
we
do
it
and
be
able
to
help
set
the
agenda
for
it.
G
Yeah,
so
if
you
think
about
access
and
engagement,
the
aelt,
what
we're
trying
to
to
really
kind
of
focus
on
two
areas
right:
the
new
commissioners,
which
the
exact
committee
and
commission
commissioner
bedbury,
has
already
kind
of
gone
over
and
the
second
area
is
really
engaging
the
community.
So
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
kind
of
how
we're
thinking
about
that.
G
So
we
we're
thinking,
there's
two
areas
right
and
you
guys
guys
got
to
witness
one
today
right,
bringing
folks
in
to
you
know
kind
of
talk
to
us,
and
you
know
just
kind
of
talk
about
what
they're
trying
to
do
and
how
we
can
interact
with
the
community,
and
I
think
rojo
did
a
you
know
excellent
job
right.
G
So
we
want
to
continue
to
do
that
and
we
think
about,
and
the
other
thing
we
want
to
do-
and
this
is
you
know
a
little
bit
of
optimism
right-
that
we'll
be
able
to
meet
in
person.
Is
that
go-to
places
right?
So
what
we've
tentatively
started
to
set
up
is
every
other
month
doing
you
know
one
of
those
things
right
either
having
somebody
come
in
or
us
going
to.
You
know
a
particular
location,
and
so
you
know
and
going
to
a
particular
location.
G
You
know
the
idea
is
around
really
engaging
in
the
community
right
getting
in
the
community
and
actually
the
group
that
we're
that
that
were
that's
hosting
us
being
able
to
have
their
members,
be
participants
and
their
constituents.
So
that's
the
kind
of
idea.
G
We
have
a
a
tentative
schedule
and
it
is
very
tentative,
but
you
know
we're
working
hard
to
kind
of
you
know
tick
and
tie
and
and
probably
in
the
next
couple
of
months
we
might
have
a
little
bit
of
holes,
but
I
mean
we're
focused
on
trying
to
fill
them
all
so
june.
This
month
was
rojo
still
working
on
july.
G
I
know
the
timing's
tight,
so
there
might
be
opportunity
not
to
have
you
know
we
might
not
get
one
in
july,
but
we're
trying
to
get
somebody
to
come
and
speak
in
july
august.
We
are
going
to
try
to
have
an
in
person
if
we
can
have
it
at
black
table
arts.
I
still
I've
talked
in
general
with
kino
about
it,
but
we
haven't
locked
it
down
right,
but
that
you
know
he's
expressed
interest
in
having
us
come
september.
G
Speakers
still
to
be
determined
october
in
person
with
all
my
relations,
and
you
know
getting
getting
out
to
them
november,
would
be
an
arts
panel
that
we've
talked
about.
I
think
for
a
couple
of
years.
Let's
try
to
lock
that
down.
G
It
gives
us
a
little
bit
of
time
what
we'd
like
to
do,
that
is,
do
it
in
the
new
city
building
and
use
that
as
an
opportunity
to
get
people
to
see
the
public
art
that
was,
you
know
just
approved
by
the
by
the
folks
and
have
the
arts
panel,
so
we
think
that
could
be
fun
in
terms
of
having
an
arts
panel
and
potentially
having
a
tour.
Now
that
would
be
these
rest
of
the
ones
that
we're
saying
is
would
be
in
conjunction
with
our
normal
meeting.
This
would
be
a
little
bit.
G
This
would
be
to
give
the
arts
panel
and
the
tour
it's
now
time.
We
think
this
needs
to
be
a
separate
timing,
an
event.
So
those
are
the
initial
thoughts
love
to
hear
kind
of
comment.
If
you,
if
you
have
a
differing
opinion
and
then
december,
have
our
public
meeting,
we
are
required,
you
know
to
have
a
public
meeting
and
the
thought
is
to
have
it
at
the
hennepin
theater
trust-
and
you
know,
obviously
we
have
a
great
in
there.
G
Hopefully
we
can,
you
know,
get
it
for
a
good
rate,
not
just
kidding,
but
but
we
you
know,
we
we
love
to,
have
it
there
and
then
in
that
one
invite
multiple
organizations
right.
So
you
know
and
really
try
to
make
this
that
one,
the
kind
of
big
kind
of
you
know
celebration
of
the
year
you
know
in
in
december.
So
those
are
our
kind
of
initial
thoughts
you
know.
Did
I
miss
any
anything?
Commissioner?
Brinkman,
hey
barry,
anything
okay.
So
that's
my
report,
maybe.
J
G
Yeah
and
what
all
I
did
was
you
know,
did
the
invite
and
then
just
had
a
quick
like
a
30-minute
meeting
beforehand
with
rojo,
and
just
you
know,
talk
to
them
about
hey,
just
introduce
yourself
be
prepared
to
answer
questions
about
how
we
can
you
know,
connect,
and
you
know
just
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
organization.
So
very
you
know
quick.
You
know
easy
agenda,
you
know
they
asked
if
they
needed
a
slide
presentation.
I
said
no,
you
guys
can
talk
off
the
cuff
or
if
you
need
a
slide
piece
presentation.
G
You
know
we'd
work
through
that
too,
but
it's
make
it
real
cash
and
you
know
and
relax,
and
we
just
really
want
to
hear
from
them.
They
don't
they
don't
have
to
be
you
know,
professional
or
to
you
know,
to
speak
to
the
group.
G
Oh
yeah,
I
do
that
all
the
time,
commissioner
thompson,
you
have
to
click
it
again,
to
take
your
hand
down
it'll
stay
up.
That
was
from
your
earlier
yep.
B
It
okay,
I
was
gonna,
suggest
that
it
might
be
interesting
to
see
if
the
organizers
from
save
the
boards
might
be
able
to
come
and
talk
to
us
being
that
that
initiative
is
happening
to
memorialize.
The
movement
is
the
other
title.
There
kind
of
two
coalitions
working
together.
I
might
I
can
make
that
invitation
and
see
if
anyone
has
any
other
ideas.
The
other
thing
that
we
could
do
also
is
we
could
invite
an
individual
artist
too
to
come,
and
just
tell
us
if
that
july,
spot
stays
open.
B
So
I'm
assuming
that
if
people
have
ideas
they
can
forward
that
to
who
is
the
best
point
of
contact
for
the
july
opportunity.
G
You
imported
to
me,
I
mean,
or
you
know,
commissioner
brinkman
or
whoever
you
know
you
know
the
the
people
on
the
committee
or
lisa
crystal
mandy
and
myself.
So
you
know
we
have
a
whatsapp
that
will
keep
each
other
informed
if
we
get
a
request.
G
Excellent.
Actually
one
last
thing
I
did
want
to
say
is
that
the
other
thing
is
we're
trying
to
do
with.
This
is
kind
of
low-key
sell
for
the
commission
seats
right,
so
you
know
say:
hey
get
him
involved,
see
what
he's
doing
and
then
you
know,
because
I'll
I'll
I'll
talk
to
rojo
afterwards
to
see
if
they
have
some
interest
and
just
kind
of
you
know
that's
another
way
to
you,
know
kind
of
get
folks
involved.
G
You
know
by
seeing
what,
because
I
think,
that's
the
biggest
question.
What
do
you
guys
do,
and
you
know
you
know,
how
can
I
impact.
B
So
100
percent-
I
thank
you
access
so
much.
This
is
such
an
exciting
update
and
I
appreciate
all
of
you
getting
back
together
and
really
revving
the
engine
and
getting
people
to
come
and
getting
us
out
there.
This
is
a
tremendously
exciting
proposal
for
the
commission,
so
just
a
big
appreciation
for
the
work.
That's
going
into
this
effort
to
provide
access
and
engagement,
that's
just
excellent,
any
other
comments
or
questions
before
we
move
on.
D
Question
so
I'm
wondering
is
this
an
opportunity
that
we
can
ask
only
people
who
are
related
to
the
arts,
or
could
it
be
just
someone
or
a
group,
that's
very
centered
in
the
minneapolis
communities,
and
maybe
it's
an
opportunity
for
them
to
educate
us
about
a
sect
of
the
community.
We
don't
know
as
much
about
I
don't
know,
or
is
it
just
for
people
within
the
arts
sphere.
I
I
would
think
that
that
would
be
great
and-
and
also
I
just
wanted
to
add
to,
and-
and
I
don't
know
what
anybody
else
thinks
about
that,
but
you
know
the
especially
kind
of
like
the
december.
We
were
kind
of
calling
calling
it
a
gala.
I
We
really
want
to
just
bring
community
together
for
some
of
these.
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
that.
F
One
thing
I
thought-
and
I
know
this
would
be
a
longer
time-
commitment
for
us
but
and
being
new
to
the
work
of
the
commission
depending
on
the
group
or
where
we
go.
Would
there
be
an
opportunity
for
a
tour
of
sorts
of
projects,
or
you
know
just
getting
a
larger
like
an
in-person,
larger
feel
for
the
work
that
an
organization
is
doing.
I
would
just
throw
that
out
there
as
an
I'd.
F
I'd
love
to
stay
longer
come
earlier
and
do
a
little
tour
if
the
if
people
would
host
us
when
we're
out
in
the
community.
So
just
a
thought.
G
And
I
would
just
say
back
to
mari's
comment.
Is
that
yeah?
Let's?
Let's,
let's
think
through
that?
If
you
have
some
ideas
that
you
know
just
let's,
let's
discuss
that
because
I
think
it's
you
know
it's.
You
say
we
we
hadn't
thought
about
that,
like
like
you're,
saying
and
so,
but
we'd
definitely
be
interested
in
hearing
your
thoughts.
E
Yeah
I
had
one
consideration.
I
wonder
if
at
some
point
in
the
next
couple
months
we
could
do
a
group
walkthrough
of
the
new
office
space
downtown.
L
That
would
be,
it
takes
almost
an
hour
to
look
at
all
the
art
so
but
we
can
totally
do
it,
it's
not
all
quite
in
yet,
but
there's.
L
The
main
thing
I'm
trying
to
get
installed
is
the
skyway
vinyl
and
it's
all
heat
dependent
right
can't
be
too
hot,
can't
be
too
cold
gotcha.
So
I'm
trying
to
find
a
two
week
period
where
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
be
90
degrees.
J
Man
my
mute
buttons
like
six
seconds.
This
is
getting
slower,
it's
getting
tired.
Is
there
any
idea
of
when,
like
I
don't
know,
if
we're
are,
we
is
it
legally?
Can
we
get
together
in
august?
Is
that
a
thing
like?
Can
we
start
meeting
together
so
we
can
move
forward
in
our
august
plans,
we're
not
going
to
get
in
trouble.
B
I
mean
I'll
just
comment
that
the
mayor,
one
of
the
mayor's
meetings
that
I
attend
just
said
we're
meeting
in
person
next
time,
so
I'm
guessing
that
there
will
be
a
way
to
make
that
happen.
I
don't
want
to
assume-
and
I
think,
tina
if
it's
okay
with
you,
I
think
that's
just
a
takeaway-
is
to
get
that
updated.
I
believe
that
tina's
attending,
like.
R
K
I
just
want
to
mention
that
being
able
to
do
meetings
remotely
was
one
way
we
were
able
to
be
more
accessible
to
folks
who
weren't
able
to
attend
when
it
meant
driving
downtown
through
rush
hour
traffic.
K
And
while
that
wasn't
me,
I
knew
a
lot
of
people
who
couldn't
be
there
because
of
it.
So
I
would
be
interested
in
in
the
conversation
at
the
city
about
how,
as
a
means
to
continue
to
provide
adequate
access
for
all
people
to
these
commissions
if
they
can
sustain
the
online
option
rather
than
eliminating
it,
which
is
sort
of
what
had
happened
in
the
past.
So
I
just
would
not
want
to
trade
one
for
the
other.
If
that
makes
sense,.
B
Yeah
and
I
know
in
the
past,
we
were
able
to
call
him,
and
so
I
imagine
that
remote
video
participation,
I
I
imagine
we
won't
be
the
only
commission
you
know
wanting
to
advocate
for
that
so
tina.
I
think
if
you
don't
mind
bringing
that
forward
when
you
meet
with
other
assistants
to
say
that
the
minneapolis
commission
would
like
to
continue
to
have
a
remote
opportunity
to
participate
in
the
meeting.
B
For
the
reasons
lisa
mentioned,
for
accessibility
reasons
is
that
is
that
helpful?
B
Okay,
okay
and
I
apologize.
T
B
Okay,
thank
you
tina.
I
know
that
we
are
over
time
right
now,
but
we
knew
that
we
likely
would
be
so.
I
hope
that
everyone
can
stay
on.
We
have
two
more
items
on
our
agenda,
but
the
next
one
is:
unless
there's
any
other
questions
or
comments,
is
it
okay?
We
wanna
discuss
the
public
art
item
number
nine,
the
green
crescent
final
design
and
the
recommendation
is
to
approve
the
design.
Commissioner
mansfield,
would
you
like
to
start.
D
Yes,
thank
you
and
doja
travelers,
as
without
formal
invitation
from
the
different
people.
We
should
all
recognize
and
keep
in
mind
that
we
are
all
travelers
of
this
land
when
reviewing
the
green
crescent
design.
I
noticed
there
were
many
discrepancies
that
can
be
seen
as
offensive
to
native
american
people,
and
it's
so
at
the
east
of
time.
I
will
just
try
and
run
through
them
all
very
quickly
number
one
horses
were
brought
to
the
united
states
by
colonizers
during
the
period
of
colonization.
D
They
did
not
exist
in
this
land
before
a
couple
of
years
ago
to
use,
of
course,
as
a
symbol
for
native
americans
is
to
symbolically
erase
the
very
british
history
that
existed
on
this
land
for
tens
of
thousands
of
years
number
two
native
americans
are
not
a
monolith.
This
description
fails
to
identify
any
one
tribe
that
uses
the
horse
as
sacred
or
revered
in
their
society.
D
It
also
inaccurately
describes
forces
as
being
used
for
transportation
and
hunting,
which
is
inaccurate.
It
also
states
that
native
americans
in
general
revered
and
appreciated
the
horse.
This
ignores
all
of
the
very
individual
cultures
that
have
other
sacred
animals
number
three.
One
of
the
few
native
american
tribes
that
uses
the
horse
and
reveres
the
horse
in
their
society
is
the
apache.
D
So
putting
this
up
is
putting
up
a
symbol
of
an
animal
used
at
war
with
the
native
people
of
minnesota
and
number
four,
the
native
americans,
who
were
attempted
to
be
reached
out
in
concentrate
consultation
with
this
artwork,
we're
never
met
with,
and
therefore
there
are
no
opinions
of
native
american
people
from
the
dakota.
D
Tribes,
specifically
dakota,
who
are
from
this
area
of
minnesota,
all
of
these
issues
presented
in
one
project
as
well
as
other
issues
and
other
projects,
show
that
there
is
a
greater
issue
in
the
public
art
sphere.
P
D
Native
americans
are
treated
and
represented
in
artwork
throughout
city,
public
art
projects,
and
I
personally
I
don't
feel
that
it
would
be
ethical
or
appropriate
to
improve
this
piece
of
artwork
when
it
could
bring
so
much
pain
and
offense
to
the
dakota
people
of
this
land.
B
R
Not
happening
so
I
I
really
appreciate
how
generous
you're,
getting
with
your
feedback.
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
to
the
group
to
discuss
and
well.
L
First
of
all,
I
think
it
for
for
to
have
a
discussion
and
to
have
a
really
strong
reaction
to
the
artwork
without
giving
the
artist
a
chance
to
respond
is
is
really
is
really
unfair
and
I
should
have
commissioner
mansfield
was
unable
to
make
the
public
art
advisory
panel
meeting
where
the
artist
presented,
and
I
apologize
for
not
following
through
with
her
to
make
sure
you
know
she
was
comfortable
with
the
design,
even
though
she
was
unable
to
attend
the
meeting
before
putting
it
on
this
agenda,
but
tina
and
javier
were
selected
because
they
are
extremely
respected
artists
in
the
community
and
they
are
respected
by
artists
of
many
cultures,
and
they
have
collaborated
with
native
artists,
and
I
I
can
understand
how
their
some
of
their
language
might
be
misleading
about
this,
but
they
and
as
indigenous
artists
themselves.
L
I
also
just
want
to
point
out
that
we
have
a
work
by
marlena
miles,
who
is
lakota
and
dakota
in
the
new
building,
which
features
horses
strongly
and
what
both
tina
and
xavier
heard
from
native
folks,
what
they
told
me
they
heard
from
native
folks
that
they
were
talking
to
is
that,
even
though
the
horse
is
was
brought
here
by
european
americans,
that
it
was
an
important
part
of
their
culture,
and
I
think
that's
also
why
marlena
has
been
using
the
horse
and
as
an
image
in
a
number
of
her
works.
L
If,
if
the
commission
wants
to
postpone
the
approval
of
this
work
and
the
which
will
also
mean
postponed
moving
forward
on
the
artists
contract,
you
know
I
would
respect
respectfully,
arrange
that
or
you
know
again
arrange
an
opportunity
for
mari
to
talk
to
tina
and
javier.
But-
and
I
also
just
want
to
point
out
that
recently
tina
shared
some
literature
with
us.
That
indicated
that
the
new
research
that's
comes
to
light
is
actually
shown
that
perhaps
indigenous
people
had
the
horse
here
in
north
america.
L
Prior
to
european
americans
bringing
the
course
over,
and
so
I
I
I
just
be
before,
there's
discussion,
I
think
I
would
request
that
the
discussion
be
about
whether
to
approve
the
item
today
or
whether
or
not
to
table
it
and
allow
tina
and
javier
a
chance
to
respond
to
it,
because
these
are
commissioner
mansfield's
raising
some
really
strong
concerns.
L
But,
given
my
own
knowledge
of
tina
and
xavier's
work
and
their
work
on
this
project
and
their
work
with
native
people
and
also
the
fact
that
native
people
are
including
the
horse
in
their
work
in
other
projects
that
we
have,
I
think
we
I
would.
I
would
request
that
a
decision
or
an
action
on
the
requested
item
not
happen
tonight.
If
the
commission
does
not
want
to
equip
it.
B
And
does
anyone
else
have.
T
F
To
me,
that's
a
really
reasonable
way
to
go
is
to
table
the
item
tonight
and
let
this
conversation
happen
so
mari.
Maybe
you
want
to
make
that
since
that's
your
concern,
but
I
would
certainly
be
supportive
of
that.
I
wouldn't
want
to
take
a
vote
on
it.
I
think
it
sounds
like
a
really
good
conversation
to
have
and
bring
it
back
to
us
when
you're
ready.
So
that's
that's
what
I
I
could
move
it
or
mar
you
can
move
it
whatever.
Whatever
you
like.
L
I
just
also
want
to
add
that
the
consequence
of
that
would
probably
they
were
hoping
for
a
fall
installation
and
that
postponing
it
a
month
will
likely
mean
that
it
would
be
a
spring
installation.
But
if
the
commission
feels
strongly
about
this,
I
think
you
should
make
this.
You
know
I
I'm
not
telling
you
what
to
decide,
but
it
will.
L
T
R
It's
okay,
but
I
think
what
you
were
saying,
commissioner
ellsworth,
is
that
we
could
call
a
special
meeting
that
we
needed
to
if
there
was
an
if
we
were
able
to
reach
resolution
about
our
content.
L
L
G
Okay,
and
can
you
remind
someone
to
remind
me
again
what
the
quorum
is
with
the
number.
G
Yeah
from
my
perspective,
I
I'd
I'd
be
willing
to
do
a
special
meeting
right.
I
think
it's
a
valid
concern
by
commissioner
mansfield
and
you
know-
and
I
think
mary
makes
a
good
point
that
we
you
know
we
can
hear
from
these
guys
and
if
we,
you
know
to
atlanta's
point,
if
we
can,
you
know
do
it
in
a
timely
manner
that
doesn't
affect
the
installation.
G
If,
if
passed
and
that's
a
key
word
if
passed,
I
think
that's
I'm
in
favor
of
that
solution.
B
R
The
artists,
if
you
would
prefer
that
we
we
speak
with
the
artist
as
a
group,
how
you?
Just
if
you,
if
you're
comfortable,
providing
feedback
about
what
you
would
feel
the
peace,
has
factored
moving
forward.
D
Sorry
meeting
individually
either
one
meeting
as
a
group
or
individually.
B
Is
it
okay
as
a
takeaway
for
mary
and
you
to
coordinate
a
time
with
tina
and
javier,
and
then
I
my
second
okay?
Yes,
that's
great,
and
then
my
second
question
is:
would
anybody
else
if
anyone
else
is
interested
in
attending
as
well?
I
I
would
like
for
it
to
be
open
to
any
of
the
other
commissioners
if
it's
possible
mary
to
fast
track
this.
B
I
think
that
that
I
hear
you
and
I
and
I
am
sensitive,
that
this
is
a
very
timely
consideration
and
if
we
could,
if
we
find
out
when
this
meeting
can
happen,
perhaps
we
tentatively
right
now
just
pick
a
time
to
host
a
special
meeting,
because
it's
difficult
to
coordinate
with
this
many
people
and
we're
all
in
the
room
right
now
could
we
could
we
meet
at
same
time
same
place
wednesday,
at
five
o'clock
to
and
try
to
get
that
meeting
between
the
artists
and
any
commissioners
that
want
to
participate,
including
commissioner
mansfield,
to
happen.
L
I
I
think
that
I
I
don't
think
we
should
have
a
special
meeting
with
commissioners
and
the
artists
and
then
meet.
I
think
the
full
commissions
to
see
the
full
presentation
I
just
like
the
full
panel
saw
the
full
presentation.
I
think
you
know
we're
already
putting
the
artist
in
a
really
defensive
position
and
I'm
uncomfortable
about
that,
because
I,
as
as
somebody
who's,
worked
on
this
project
for
two
years,
I
know
how
thorough
their
engagement
has
been.
I
know
how
deep
their
relationships
are
in
the
community
and.
L
L
I
also
feel
that
once
you
all
hear
them
present,
it
would
be
important
for
them
to
hear
your
gratitude
for
going
through
this
additional
process,
because
it
is.
L
C
L
Respect
what
commissioner
mansfield
has
to
say,
but
I
think
the
artists
deserve
the
utmost
respect
in
this
process,
and
I
think
we
should
put
him
through
as
few
hoops
as
possible.
B
Being
said,
then,
is
a
better
option
for
there
to
be
just
a
one-on-one
meeting
about,
or
you
know,
just
a
smaller
group
meeting
about
the
the
considerations
that
commissioner
mansfield
has
brought
forward
and
then
a
special
meeting
with
all
of
the
artists
to
discuss
and
approve
or
disagree.
L
I
I,
I
think,
yeah,
that's
what
I
think
and
I
think
the
artist
should
have
the
opportunity
to
address
the
full
commission.
I
think
that
would
be
the
most
respectful
thing
to
them.
B
I
I
guess,
I'm
kind
of
I'm
trying
to
think
about
the
fact
that
that
sounds
very
stressful
to
me
from
an
artist's
perspective
that
maybe
there
is
a
way
to
have
a
dialogue
of
you
know
to
address
these
specific
items,
one
through
three,
that
is
less
stressful
than
doing
a
full
presentation
for
the
full
commission.
B
L
L
B
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
and
I
I
also
want
to
endorse
the
the
tremendous
community
work
that
this
artist
team
does.
I
do
have
experience
working
with
both
of
them
and
they
do
an
incredible
job.
So
I
appreciate
I
appreciate
that
sentiment.
So,
commissioner,
minig.
P
K
K
L
I
think
the
other
thing
about
this
is,
is
that
so
this
is
about.
L
Culture
right-
and
this
is
about
people's
interpretation
of
culture,
and
we
have
multiple
indigenous
artists,
giving
us
different
interpretations
right
and
so.
L
C
L
Of
the
things
that
we
are
all
struggling
with
in
minneapolis
right,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
for
the
commission
to
take
this
up
as
a.
L
C
B
Commissioner
smith,
do
you
want
to
speak
to
this?
I
I
also
was
unable
to
attend
the
meeting,
which
is
a
very
rare
occurrence
and
it's
unfortunate
and
I
apologize
that
I
wasn't
able
to
attend,
and
I
regret
that
I
couldn't,
but
I,
commissioner
smith,
do
you
want
to
add
anything.
E
I
think
it's
it
is
kind
of
like
what
mary
said.
I
don't
really
want
to
speak
for
them.
I
guess
I
don't
necessarily
remember
them
addressing
any
of
these
particular
issues.
B
Well,
we
have
to
make
a
decision,
and
I
so
are
we
going
to
ask
the
artist
if
they
wish
to
present
to
the
coal
commission.
L
I
just
want
to
add
one
other
piece
of
information,
so
I
think
they
did
address
it.
They
met
with
this
group
of
people
called
pai,
which
is
the
phillips
indian
educators
and
talk
to
them
about
their
concept,
and
so
this
is
a
group
of
people
in
indian
education
in
the
phillips
neighborhood.
L
G
Yeah
I
I
would
just
say
that
I
think
there's
a
concern
right
and
there's
still
a
concern.
I
think
I
think
we're
we're
struggling
on
the
sensitivity
of
the
artists
to
be
able
to
explain
their
their
work
and
I
can
get
it,
but
it
sounds
like
they've
done
it
before
right.
It
sounds
like
they've
done
it
with
this.
The
group
that
you
just
referred
to
mary,
they
did
it
with
the
the
panel,
so
maybe
I'm
looking
at
it
wrong.
G
They
might
have
some
sensitivity
about
going
to
you
know
to
to
another
group
and
like
another
hurdle
to
mary's
point,
but
if
it
feels
like
these
guys
have
a
point
of
view
and
they
can
express
it
to
us,
so
I
I
guess,
I'm
a
little
bit
less
concerned
about
that
that
sensitivity
in
this
particular
case,
because
they
they've
shown
the
ability
to
talk
to
different
groups
about
hey.
This
is
why
I
thought
it.
This
is
why
I
did
it.
This
is
I'm
backing
it
up.
So
this
is
just
my
thoughts.
B
Thank
you.
I
would
love
to
propose
that
we
asked
the
artist
to
present
to
the
minneapolis
arts
commission
their
presentation
and
give
us
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions,
and
then
we
can
approve
or
disapprove
at
the
special
meeting
and
to
do
that
to
do
that
as
quickly
as
they're
available
availability
will
allow.
L
S
R
B
B
Depending
if
they
can
join
us,
does
that
sound
okay
with
everybody.
G
B
G
B
Okay,
so
we're
gonna
tentatively
schedule
for
wednesday
june
23rd
at
5
p.m,
to
receive
the
presentation
on
the
green
crescent
project.
Commissioner
mansfield
is
this.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
okay
you're
available
helpful
if
you
weren't
available
okay,
not
available.
That's
okay,
commissioner
griffin.
Thank
you
bill
all
right,
so
we
will
set
that
up.
So
the
takeaways
on
any
other
comments.
Considerations.
Thank
you
for
the
additional
time
this
evening
to
discuss
this.
L
C
J
S
B
That
motion
passes.
Thank
you,
everyone
and
with
that,
is
there
any
new
business
that
anyone
wants
to
bring
forward.
Okay.
With
that,
let's
see,
let
me
find
my
assortment
document
with
that.
We
have
completed
items
on
the
agenda
for
this
meeting.
I
will
ask
members
if
there
are
any
other
matters
to
come
before
meeting,
if
not
and
without
objection.
I
will
declare
this
meeting
adjourned.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
wednesday
june
23rd
at
5pm
thanks
everybody,
and
thank
you
for
the
additional
time
tonight.