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B
C
Time
is
4
31.
I'll
call
to
order
the
city
of
minneapolis
planning
commission
hearing
the
first
of
2021
on
january
11th
here
to
get
us
started,
make
sure
that
we
have
quorum
on
clerk
to
please.
D
E
H
C
Very
good
we
have
quorum.
Thank
you
very
much.
Our
next
order
of
business
is
to
item
number
three
except
the
minutes.
From
both
november
16
2020
planning,
commission
hearing
and
the
december
7th
2020
planning
commission
hearing.
Do
I
have
a
motion.
I
H
This
is
commissioner
meyer.
Can
we
get
an
update
on
what
what
what
our
policy
with
the
minutes
is
gonna
be
because
they
were
unchanged
as
far
as
I
could
tell
for
the
november
minutes,.
C
J
And
that's
why
you
didn't
see
a
change
with
the
december
minute.
So
I
don't
know
if
rachel
or
jackie
wants
to
speak
to
that
about
how
minutes
will
be
handled
in
the
future.
But
that
is
something
that
we
are
aware
of
and
have
discussed
internally.
F
H
J
Yes,
in
an
email,
I
had
asked
for
some
patience
as
we
work
through
these
transitions.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
being
prioritized
in
terms
of
process
improvements,
and
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
is
on
the
table,
but
I
again
because
cped
is
no
longer
clerking.
These
meetings
cannot
answer
that
question
at
this
time.
I
H
C
Very
good:
we
have
a
motion
on
the
table
to
pass
the
december
minutes
and
continue
the
the
november
minutes.
Commissioners
matters.
C
Just
commissioner
meyer
first
and
then
and
the
commissioner
sorry,
commissioner,
you
said
you'd
speak
to
that.
H
Yeah
yeah
thank
you
yeah
and
for
those
listening
in
I'm
on
my
phone
because
the
power
is
out
in
the
mercy
holds
neighborhood.
So
I
I
don't
recall
any
failed
motions
on
the
december
minutes
from
the
december
meeting,
but
there
were
for
november,
and
you
know
I
I'm
happy
to
be
patient
as
the
changes
are
resolved,
but
I
think
you
know
we
have
some
minutes
on
on
the
table
to
vote
on
that.
I
would
like
to
see
you
know
fully
include
all
the
motions
that
happened.
C
Very
good
commissioner
luke
here.
K
Yeah,
I
guess
my
commissioner
myers
somewhat
addressed
my
question.
I
was
just
wondering
why
why
we
were
not
approving
the
minutes,
given
that
it
was
common
practice
for
as
far
back
as
anyone
can
remember,
if
there
was
anything
in
particular
that
he
wanted
noted
and
whether
it
would
like
I
guess,
what
what's
the
what's
the
purpose
and
goal
and
and
are
we
bound
to
approve
things,
and
this
is
a
question
for
staff
by
a
certain
time
frame,
or
is
it
okay
just
to
leave
it
floating
out
there?
I
C
Also
believe,
maybe
the
clerk
is
on
the
line
at
this
point,
I'm
not
sure.
J
So
we
again
had
had
an
internal
conversation
about
updating
the
minutes
going
forward.
I
do
not
know
that
there
was
a
specific
direction
given
to
update
the
november
minutes.
I
know
it
was
a
conversation
that
the
commission
wanted
to
have
and
we
discussed
it
briefly
at
committee
of
the
whole
that
going
forward
failed
actions
would
be
reflected
in
the
minutes.
J
So
you
know
with
that.
I
guess
I
can't
say
what
the
timeline
would
be.
I
know
lisa
did
attempt
to
go
back
into
limbs
and
revisit
those
on
november
minutes
and
was
having
issues
with
some
technology
in
doing
so.
So
you
know,
I
think
you
can
see
in
the
chat
city
clerk
casey
carl
has
noted
that
yes,
going
forward,
all
actions
failed
and
approved
will
be
noted
in
the
minutes.
C
All
right,
so
I
think
if
I
may
offer
a
suggestion,
I
think
that
we
should
either
pass
both
the
minutes
from
november
and
december
now,
or
we
should
include
in
the
motion
direction
to
include
all
motions,
whether
failed
or
passed
in
the
november
minutes,
which
were
not
was
not
kimberly's,
note
actually
requested
previously,
and
and-
and
so
I
think
that
that
would
be
appropriate.
Otherwise
we're
just
kind
of
continuing
without
any
actual
directions
to
those
november.
C
All
right,
the
the
latter
suggestion.
C
Right,
do
we
have
okay,
very
good
commissioners,
you
care.
K
Yeah,
I
was
just
wondering
if
casey
carl
could
just
elaborate
on
his
comments.
Just
because
I'm
curious
one
one
thing
seemed
to
read
one
way,
but
then
the
roberts
ruled
commenting
to
read
another.
So
I
just
want
some
clarity
on
what
that
direction
is.
C
J
K
Can
you
just
discern
but
what
he
wrote
the
last
two
paragraphs.
Basically,
the
one
thing
seems
to
indicate
that
we
should
show
the
full
business
in
showing
any
substantive
motion,
but
this
last
paragraph
seems
to
indicate
that
robert's
rules
only
requires
motions
that
are
passed
so
so
I'm
sorry
can
I
just
get
clarity
on
what
his
recommendation
is.
C
All
right,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
table,
the
motion
being
to
continue
the
approval
of
november's
minutes
with
a
direction
staff
direction
to.
I
guess
at
this
point
the
clerk's
office
to
include
the
all
motions
failed
and
passed
at
that
meeting
and
a
motion
to
approve
within
the
motion
to
approve
the
meetings
from
the
december
meeting.
Commissioner.
M
Yeah,
thank
you,
president
rockwell.
I'm
going
to
be
voting
no
on
the
motion
because
it
contains
two
parts
to
it
and
I
can't
support
the
part
about
amending
the
november
minutes.
The
the
situation
in
november
was
what
it
was.
It
seems
to
me
that
we
have
clear
guidance.
This
is
january.
This
is
the
first
meeting
of
the
year,
we're
all
on
the
same
page
about
what
the
minutes
look
like
going
forward,
but
I
don't
see
any
reason
to
change
the
practice
we
were
in
in
november.
M
Considering
for
the
five
or
six
years
I've
been
on
the
commission,
it
had
always
been
that
way
and
I
and
I
haven't
heard
any
particular
showing
why
november
of
20
2020
should
have
been
different.
I
understand
what
we're
doing
going
forward,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear
when
I
vote
no
on
the
motion,
I'm
fine
with
the
december
minutes,
but
I
can't
agree
to
calling
out
this
one
month,
especially
for
reasons
that
haven't
been
made
clear.
C
C
Off
all
right,
very
good
and
folks
who
are
not
speaking,
please
mutual
line.
There's
some
background
noise
on
this
meeting
so
far
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
G
D
O
M
C
C
C
G
A
C
One
righty
that
motion
carries
next
up.
Item
number
four:
the
consent
agenda
from
our
committee
of
the
whole
meeting
on
december
10
2020
recommending
a
approval
of
a
land
sale
on
west
broadway
avenue.
Commissioners,
do
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
committee
of
the
whole
consent
agenda.
Q
H
C
All
right
that
motion
carries
our
next
order
of
business.
Item
number
two
is
to
organize
and
adopt
the
agenda
for
tonight's
hearing.
For
folks
who
are
on
the
telephone
line,
I
am
going
to
walk
through
our
agenda
by
item.
If
there
is
something
you
wish
to
testify
about
against
staff's
recommendation
or
to
modify
staff
recommendation,
please
make
yourself
known
when
I
get
to
that
that
item
on
the
agenda
and
otherwise
we'll
be
placing
most
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
C
If
you
were
to
speak
in
favor
of
an
item,
you
can
speak
on
the
consent
agenda,
hearing
we'll
open
public
hearing
briefly
on
the
consent
agenda.
So
our
first
item
on
our
public
hearing
agenda
is
item
number
five
utility
easement
vacation
at
1701
6th
street,
southeastern
ward,
2
application
by
that
university
of
minnesota's.
Anybody
wishing
to
speak
on
item
number
five
utility
easement
vacation,
unmute
yourself
by
hitting
star
six.
Please.
C
I
assume
that
please
mute
your
line
if
you're
tuned
into
this
assume.
That
was
not
somebody
wanting
to
speak
to
the
utility
using
the
vacation.
All
right,
we're
gonna
place.
Item
number
five
on
consent.
Item
number:
six
is
2014
washington
avenue
north
board
five,
allowing
for
some
commercial
spaces
in
that
buildings
item
here.
Anybody
here
wishing
to
speak
to
item
number
six
star:
six
unmutes
your
line.
C
C
Here
known,
we'll
place,
item
number
seven
on
our
consent.
Agenda.
Item
number
eight.
I
believe
there
are
a
number
of
folks
here
to
testify
on
item
number
eight
and
so
we'll
place.
Item
number
eight
on
the
discussion
agenda.
Item
number
nine:
it's
winona
elementary
edition
and
remodeling
at
23rd
avenue
south
in
ward
11..
C
Nine,
you
know
we'll
place
out
number
nine
on
our
consent
agenda
item
number
ten
301
to
311
lake
street
east
in
ward
9.
Is
anybody
here
to
speak
to
item
number
10.
C
C
Hearing
no
one
place
item
number
11
on
our
consent
agenda
item
number
12
is
636
22nd
avenue
northeast
in
ward,
1,
town
home
development.
Is
anybody
wishing
to
speak
against
staff
recommendations
on
item
number
12.
C
Here
no
one
will
place
item
number
12
on
our
consent:
agenda
item
number
13,
that's
410,
13th
avenue,
southeast
1309,
4th
street
southeast
and
1315
fourth
street
south
east
of
ward
2.
I'll
note
that
item
number
13
is
listed
for
a
continuance
on
the
agenda
but
is
actually
being
withdrawn
by
the
applicant.
So
item
number
13
will
be
withdrawn.
C
Item
number
14
is
112
lake
street
east
and
more
ted.
Is
anybody
here?
We'll
discuss?
Item
number
14.
item
number
15
is
5621
woodlawn
boulevard
in
ward
11.?
Is
anybody
wishing
to
speak
against
staff
recommendation
on
item
number
15
star
6
unmute
yourself,
hi
yours
to
speak
on.
C
C
If
you
wanna
so
we're
not
we're
actually
just
organizing
the
agenda
right
now,.
B
C
You
wish
to
testify
against
the
staff
recommendation
we'll
put
this
on
the
discussion
agenda.
I
C
So
so
you
do
not
wish
to
testify
against
the
staff
recommendation.
C
No
okay,
and
if
you
wish
to
make
a
point
on
it
number
15,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
shortly
for
the
consent
agenda
and
you
can
you
can
make
that
point
during
that
public
hearing.
If
you
wish.
C
You
got
it
all
right,
so
how
do
I
so
I'll
I'll
I'll
open
the
the
public
hearing
on
the
consent
agenda
go
home,
hear
me
open
the
public
hearing
and
then
you
can
unmute
your
line
and
and
go
ahead
and
and
make
a
point.
C
Thank
you
all
right
item
number
16
is
4601
4621
minnehaha
avenue
in
ward
12..
Is
anybody
wishing
to
speak
on
item
number
16.
C
All
right
place,
item
number
16
on
consent
and
item
number
17
is
200
central
avenue,
northeast
and
113
second
street
southeast
in
ward
3,
and
we
will
be
continuing
item
number
17
to
the
january
25th
minneapolis
planning
commission
here
all
right.
So
commissioners,
our
agenda
as
amended,
is
as
follows:
we'll
discuss
items
eight
and
fourteen
items-
number
five:
six,
seven,
nine
11,
12,
15
and
16
will
be
on
consent.
C
N
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
can
you
hear
me,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
did
item
number
eight
make
it
into
the
consent.
Consent
agenda
the
touchstone?
No,
it
didn't.
No,
that's!
Okay!
N
You!
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
was
distracted
for
a
moment
and
didn't
hear
that
thanks.
F
Good
with
that
I'll
continue
to
call
the
roll
caprini.
O
F
A
F
C
All
right
the
agenda
is
adopted
next
up.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
continue?
C
Let
me
next
up
I'll
yeah.
Could
I
get
a
motion
to
continue
on
number
17
to
the
january
25th
meeting.
E
E
F
S
C
No,
that
is
how
we
that's
the
true
addition
we've
been
going
in,
so
that
is
true.
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
I
would
have.
C
All
right,
very
good
that
motion
carries
next
briefly
before
the
next
call.
For
the
next
motion
is
anybody
on
the
line
to
to
testify
on
item
number
17,
the
200
central
avenue
northeast?
I
just
want
to
double
check
here.
C
All
right,
very
good
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
we
didn't
have
folks
show
up.
Okay,
then,
could
I
get
a
motion
to
withdraw
item
number
13.
E
F
A
C
All
right
that
motion
passes
next
I'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
our
consent
agenda.
Does
anybody
wish
to
testify
to
any
of
the
items
5
6
7,
9,
10,
11,
12,
15
or
16
in
favor
of
those
agendas
on
the
consent
agenda?
I
know
there's
somebody
potentially
interested
in
testifying
on
item
number.
C
Yes,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
then
go
ahead.
C
Oh
yep,
your
we
can
hear
you
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Let
us
know
which
project
you're
speaking
to
and
go
ahead.
I
And
and
please.
C
Take
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
here.
R
I'm
the
owner
of
the
property,
my
name
is
todd.
Ladoo,
l-e-b-o-u-s
and
my
address
is
81
49
telegraph
road,
but
the
property
we're
talking
about
is
5621,
woodlawn,
boulevard,
sure.
R
C
I
would
ask
staff
either
shanna,
if
you're
on
the
line
or
kimberley,
to
speak
to
that.
My
understanding
is
that
the
personal
fee
for
the
property
and
personal
be
from
reading
the
staff
report
was
actually
not
permitted
correctly
when
it
was
built,
so
probably
needs
to
come
to
conformance.
T
That
is
correct,
president
rockwell,
so
this
is
shannon
sether,
the
staff
planner
for
the
proposed
project
through
permit
record
research.
We
found
that
the
structure
was
permitted
first
for
construction,
as
originally
as
a
detached
garage
and
then
the
subsequent
year
in
1977.
A
second
story
edition
permit
was
authorized
for
a
recreation
room.
So
it's
not
a
full
dwelling
unit.
T
So
when
we
do
a
minor
subdivision,
the
the
new
property
has
to
have
a
conforming
use,
so
we
could
have
a
vacant
parcel
that
would
be
allowed
or
it
could
be
residential,
but
we
cannot
allow
a
detached
accessory
structure,
which
is
what
the
structure
currently
has
rights
to
to
be
on
its
own
separate
parcel
and
be
owned
separately.
The
applicant
and
property
owner,
mr
ledoux,
has
applied
for
the
building
permit
necessary
in
order
to
legally
convert
the
structure,
so
we're
in
the
process.
T
R
C
It
sounds
a
little
bit
like
like
a
timing,
chicken
and
egg
thing
where
you
can't
actually
get
get
the
other
permit,
get
the
structure
permitted
correctly
until
it's
subdivided.
You
can't
get
subdivision
until
affirmative.
R
C
E
H
C
All
right
that
motion
carries
next
up,
we'll
move
to
our
discussion
agenda
first
step
is
item
number
eight
touchdown
on
mental
health
crf
at
3251,
14th
avenue
south
in
ward
9.
lindsay
is
staff
lindsay
torres.
Yours.
U
Good
evening,
commissioners,
this
project
is
located
at
3251,
14th
avenue
south
it's
located
across
the
street
from
powderhorn
park
and
is
in
the
r5
zoning
district.
Much
of
the
surrounding
area,
as
you
can
see
from
the
zoning
map,
is
r2b,
but
there
are
pockets
of
r5
throughout
the
area.
Lake
street
is
two
blocks
to
the
north.
Next
slide,
please
the
existing
building
on
site.
Oh
sorry,
that
is
the
wrong
photo
there.
U
The
existing
building
on
site
has
11
dwelling
units
and
applicant
has
proposed
to
convert
the
building
into
a
community
residential
facility
with
16
beds.
No
exterior
changes
are
proposed
to
the
building
applicant
has
proposed
to
reconfigure
the
parking
area
and
add
landscaping
as
part
of
the
improvements
and
a
community
residential
facility
with
16
beds
is
a
conditional
use
in
the
r5
district,
and
so
the
applicant
has
applied
for
a
conditional
use.
Permit
next
slide,
please.
U
U
There's
a
couple
of
different
considerations
that
are
happening
with
this
project
and
some
of
them
are
in
the
purview
of
this
commission,
and
some
of
them
are
not
so
the
applicant
touchstone
mental
health
is
intending
to
buy
this
building
from
the
current
owner
and
propose
us
to
reconfigure
the
building
and
and
open
it
as
a
community
residential
facility
serving
people
for
90
days,
90
day
stays.
U
So
staff
was
informed
that
the
current
owner
did
not
comply
with
the
city's
new
notice
of
sale,
ordinance
and
compliance
with
that
ordinance
is
required
before
a
sale
can
be
finalized.
U
It
requires
a
60-day
notice
to
tenants
and
to
the
city
prior
to
the
sale
of
the
building
that
allows
for
other
bids
on
the
building
if
those
could
potentially
come
in.
It
also
triggers
tenant
protections
for
the
first
three
months
after
the
sale
of
the
building.
So
if
folks,
if
the
current
residents
leases
were
terminated
during
that
time,
it
triggers
requirements
for
relocation
assistance
that
sort
of
thing
this
is.
This
is
not
executed
through
the
planning,
the
planning
section
of
cped.
U
It
is
through
the
housing
section
of
cped,
and
that
is
something
that
is
going
to
happen.
It
is
required
by
city
ordinance,
because
the
current
owner
was
unaware
of
this
requirement.
They
have
not.
They
have
not
made
that
notification,
however,
because
touchstone
mental
health
has
authorization
of
the
current
owner
to
pursue
the
cup
on
their
behalf.
They
are
able
to
move
through
that
process.
U
However,
the
the
current
discussion
we're
having
today
is
about
the
conditional
use
permit
and
the
conditional
use
permit
is
asking
the
question
of
whether
a
community
residential
facility
of
16
beds
is
an
appropriate
land
use
in
the
sony
district
next
slide,
please.
U
U
And
those
are
the
findings.
The
staff
has
analyzed
in
the
staff
report
that
look
at
the
impact
on
the
surrounding
area,
impact
on
surrounding
properties,
whether
utilities
and
traffic
have
been
considered
and
accounted
for,
and
whether
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
the
zoning
code
staff
is
recommending
approval
and
finds
compliance
with
all
of
the
required
findings,
and
I
do
just
want
to
reiterate
that
this
the
city
can
require
compliance
with
the
advanced
notice
of
sale
ordinance
but
cannot
prevent
the
building
from
being
sold.
U
Nor
can
the
city
determine
who
the
building
is
sold
to
or
whether
the
current
tenants
are
retained,
and
I
will
let
the
applicant
speak
to
that.
A
little
more
because
they've
been
working
with
the
neighborhood
organization
to
determine
exactly
what
the
relocation
services
they're
going
to
offer.
The
current
tenants
are
going
to
look
like
the
ellie
skelton.
U
The
applicant
has
indicated
that
they're
going
to
have
at
least
a
90-day
notice
period
to
applicants
they're
going
to
offer
relocation
assistance,
it's
funds
and
technical
support,
and
they
are
also
going
to
provide
security
deposits
back
within
a
very
short
timeframe
of
move
out.
U
Just
anything
to
assist
those
tenants,
but
just
to
reiterate,
like
the,
even
even
with
the
advanced
notice
of
sale,
the
the
current
owner
is
still
able
to
sell
to
touch
their
mental
health,
if
that
is
what
they
choose
to
do,
and
there's
nothing
in
this
current
process
that
can
prevent
the
sale
or
can
determine
who
can
buy
the
building
or
that
can
require
that
the
current
tenants
stay
in
the
building
next
slide.
Please.
U
So
here's
the
site
plan
and
landscaping
plan
there
are
very
there
are
few
changes
to
the
building.
There's
an
existing
surface
parking
lot
at
the
rear.
Some
of
the
pavement
is
being
removed,
so
the
impervious
surfaces
are
being
reduced
because
they
are
taking
what
was
two
parking
spaces
and
reorienting
them
to
provide
an
accessible
space.
There's
also
a
patio
proposed
for
residents
and
landscaping
next
slide.
U
I
won't
go
too
in
detail
with
this,
since
I
know
it's
pretty
small
on
your
screens,
but
this
is
just
showing
the
demolition
plans
for
the
interior
of
the
building
and
the
reconfiguration
of
the
floors
to
accommodate
more
of
a
communal
living
facility
like
a
like,
what's
being
proposed
here
next
slide,.
U
And
then
here's
just
a
photo
of
the
front
of
the
building.
So
I,
without
a
conclude,
my
presentation
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
C
All
righty
see
none
at
this
time.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
ask
the
applicant
to
present
first
introduce
yourself
and
add
any
further
details
to
lindsey's
presentation
as
find
applicable.
C
Very
good
hello.
C
Yes,
one
person
at
a
time
please
and
we've
got
ellie
stone.
C
X
I
I
C
Names
so
scotland
go
ahead.
V
Sure
I
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
add.
We
are
relocating
a
facility
that
we've
been
operating
for
29
years
in
the
seward
neighborhood
and
we've
been
good
neighbors
there.
We
are
committed
to
making
sure
that
there
is
a
as
much
relocation
assistance
as
possible
in
working
with
the
powderhorn
park,
neighborhood
association
on
potentially
some
additional
funding
to
help
those
tenants
and
potentially
expanding
that
timeline.
Just
because
we
know
it's
a
challenging
time
to
find
housing.
V
These
are
there's
11,
one-bedroom
apartments
and
currently
10
are
occupied,
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
families
in
the
one-bedroom
apartments
and
we
hope
to
find
some
subsidized,
affordable
housing
that
those
families
would
be
able
to
relocate
with.
We
do
housing,
stabilization
and
housing
search
for
families
or
for
individuals.
V
So
we
have
some
staff
that
specialize
in
that.
If
the
tenants
are
interested
in
working
with
us,
it's
obviously
their
choice
and
we
think
we'll
be
a
good
neighbor.
We
know
there's
a
lot
of
trepidation
and
that
the
powderhorn
community
has
been
through
a
lot
and
we
operate
two
other
residential
treatment
programs
in
bloomington
and
fridley,
and
the
individuals
that
we
support
are
adults
with
serious
and
persistent
mental
illness,
and
they
certainly
do
have
a
number
of
symptoms.
V
And
that's
why
we're
on
site,
24,
7
and
we're
helping
people
make
those
next
steps
in
recovery
and
we're
often
seen
as
an
asset
in
the
community,
and
we
hope
that
would
happen
once
we
are
able
to
hopefully
move
into
this
neighborhood
and
start
working
with
our
neighbors.
And
so
they
get
to
know
us
and
get
to
know
the
people
we
serve
and
realize
that
we're
just
another
member
of
the
community.
C
Very
good,
thank
you,
commissioners.
Are
there
any
questions
for
the
applicant
at
this
time.
C
Okay,
see
none.
There
are
a
number
of
folks
who
wish
to
testify
so
we'll
start
out
with
a
leanne
set.
Is
there
a
lien
sit
on
the
line
and
also
I
know
I
believe
I
should
say
that
some
folks
made
it
a
translator
and
so
and
that
I
think,
there's
a
translator
on
the
line.
So
obviously
the
translator
should
I
mute
as
needed.
W
Y
W
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
all
right?
Okay,
so
I
am
just
a
contractor.
I'm
not
testifying!
I'm
just
interpreting
for
buy
requests
from
the
city
to
interpret
for
comment
to
item
number,
eight
that
was
just
covered
by
the
commission.
W
So,
and
let
me,
since
this
is
long
distance-
is
a
different
challenge
for
us,
so
I
will
request
a
little
bit
of
patience.
I
am
going
to
proceed
to
ask
and
see
if
there
are
people
that
are
here
that
want
to
make
a
comment
and
I'm
going
to
interpret
that
into
english.
C
Okay,
why
don't
we
work?
C
Okay?
What
why
don't
we
work
through
the
list
that
we
have?
I
think
we've
probably
got
some
folks,
so
we
can.
C
Each
yes,
I
can
hear
you,
I
think
we
can
ask
each
testifier,
so
I
have
a
list
of
names
of
folks
that
are
on
the
line
who
we
know
want
to
testify,
and
so
why
don't
we
ask
with
each
testifier
if
they
need
a
translator,
so.
I
C
List
out
the
names
and
then
we'll
kind
of
go
one
by
one
and
then
once
we
work
through
this
list,
I'll
ask
if
there's
anybody
else
on
the
line
wishing
to
testify,
and
you
can
also
ask
just
so
we're
making
sure
we're
understandable
by
everybody
and
so
what
we'll
maybe
cover
our
bases?
That
way.
Does
that
sound
like
does
that
sound,
like
that'll
work,.
W
I
C
Yep,
okay,
so
I
so
the
first
person
that
we
have,
I
think,
is
leon
sit
and
I
think
I
heard
things
that
say
that
they
did
not
need
a
translator.
So,
okay.
Y
Z
Y
C
Don't
we
go
ahead
and
and
then
we'll
again
we'll
work
through
each
person
and
thank
you
everybody
for
your
patience,
and
this
is
the
first
time
I'm
sharing
a
meeting
with
translator
as
well,
so
we'll
make
it
work
all
right.
Leanne
said:
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
then
go
ahead.
Y
You
thank
you
good
evening
planning,
commission
and
thank
you
lindsay
silas
for
the
summary
that
you
gave
ahead
of
time.
It
is
my
duty
as
a
neighbor
to
impress
upon
you
the
grave
consequences
of
this
proposal.
I
request
in
the
strongest
terms
that
you
please
deny
the
applicant
cup
the
neighbors
that
this
decision
will
displace
include
about
33
people,
most
of
whom
are
people
of
color,
including
children,
elderly
and
with
mobility
and
language
barriers.
Y
They
have
lived
in
their
homes
for
upwards
of
5
to
22
years
teenagers.
There
today
were
once
kindergartners
in
that
building.
Neighbors
know
that
their
kids
are
safe
because
they
take
care
of
each
other,
they
lend
a
helping
hand
and
they
have
created
a
village.
It
is
not
just
financial
and
relocation
services
that
they're
after
they
want
to
stay
together,
and
they
want
to
stay
here.
What's
more,
they
are
our
neighbors
and
they
are
our
people.
We
are
one
neighborhood
with
deep,
deep
roots.
Y
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Next
up
we
have
tao
so
kutao
on
the
line.
C
Tell
me
not
be
on
the
line.
Okay,
so
we'll
we'll
check
back
in.
A
AA
AA
Hi
this
is
okay,
so
I
just
want
to
point
out
there's
a
slight
delay
for
anyone
who's
watching
online
as
opposed
to
listening
by
phone.
So
if
somebody's
slow
to
kind
of
jump
back
on
for
their
speaking
moment,
you
may
have
to
loop
them
back
in
at
the
end.
AA
I
am
perfectly
happy
to
delay
my
comments
until
you've.
Given
the
tenants
of
this
building
a
chance
to
speak,
they
have
been
ignored
at
every
step
of
this
process.
I'm
really
concerned
about
that,
and
that
starts
with
the
neighborhood
group.
It
starts
with
the
buyers.
AA
There
are
at
least
six
folks
in
the
spanish
translation
meeting
right
now
that
you
could
hear
from
so
I
respectfully
ask
to
throw
me
in
the
back
of
the
line
and
let
the
tenants
most
impacted
speak
to
you
directly.
They
actually
were
shut
out
of
a
discussion
with
the
neighborhood
association
earlier
in
the
past
week.
No
one
has
heard
from
them
and
no
one
is
door
knocked
them.
C
Well,
why
don't
we
have?
Why
don't
we
take
your
testimony
now,
russ,
just
because
I
think
we've
got
folks
on
on
the
list
here
and
the
only
way
I
can
sort
of
keep
track
of
of
how
we're
working
through
people
is
is
working
off
a
list
of
folks.
We
know
who
are
on
the
line
so
and
it
will
certainly
get
to
everyone.
Everyone.
AA
I
appreciate
I
appreciate
that
mr
chair,
I
would
suggest
you
let
folks
know
how
many
people
are
on
the
list,
so
those
who
are
waiting
to
know
how
long
they
might
want
to
wait.
I'm
not
trying
to
tell
you
how
to
run
the
meeting.
Of
course,
I'm
perfectly
happy
to
summarize
the
letter
I
submitted.
You
can
see
my
full
comments.
It's
a
little
less
than
two
pages.
AA
I'm
pretty
concerned
about
the
disconnect
between
the
existing
city,
notice
of
sale
policy
and
the
ability
of
building
owners
and
building
buyers
to
come
in
and
short
circuit
that
that
process
with
conditional
use
permit
and
zoning
variance
request.
AA
One
is
a
rejection
of
the
cup,
so
my
letter
asks
you
to
deny
the
request
for
the
conditional
use.
Permit
short
of
that,
it
asks
that
you
delay
the
decision
for
120
days
to
give
all
concerned
parties
the
opportunity
to
rethink
this
whole
proposal
and
to
give
the
tenants
a
chance
to
get
their
building
purchased
by
a
non-profit
housing
developer.
Who
would
preserve
those
11
precious
units
forever,
with
all
due
respect
to
touchstone
the
relocation
money
that
they're
offering
is
charity
and
the
tenants
do
not
want
charity?
AA
They
want
justice
and
justice
would
be
to
give
them
a
chance
to
purchase
that
building
to
work
with
a
qualified
buyer
following
the
city's
own
policy
following
the
city's
own
laudable
equity
goals
and
2040
comp
plan
to
make
sure
that
we
preserve
as
many
naturally
for
occurring,
affordable
housing
units,
particularly
the
missing
middle
mid-sized
buildings,
as
we
can,
where
you're
about
you're
about
to
make
a
decision
that
is
going
to
do
great
harm,
and
I
understand
that
you
can
only
make
decisions
on
narrow
technical
grounds.
AA
But
if
there
was
ever
an
example
for
the
city's
planning
commission
to
take
a
stand
and
to
follow
the
loftier
larger
goals
of
the
city.
This
is
the
project
I
can
tell
you.
The
owner
has
been
in
touch
with
some
of
the
neighborhood
residents
and
he
said
that
he
would
consider
offers
from
non-profit
housing
developers
but
he's
under
contract.
AA
And
lastly,
I
do
want
to
urge
you
to
take
the
comments
of
the
tenants
very
seriously.
They
only
found
out
about
this
building
sale
about
a
week
ago.
No
one
has
gone
to
them
and
talked
to
them
about
the
relocation
package.
The
neighborhood
association
did
not
door
knock
them;
the
buyers
did
not
meet
with
them.
No
one
has
had
a
conversation.
These
are
latino
families
that
have
been
absolutely
ignored
by
this
process
and
that's
a
failure
that
reflects
badly
on
all
of
us.
Thank.
C
You
you
and
yes,
we
have
about
10
folks
on
the
line
and
I
will
just
list
off
the
night.
We
have
a
request
here
list
out
the
next
three
people,
so
that
folks
have
a
little
bit
of
no
no
they're
coming
up.
So
our
next
three
people
are
sarah
bagwell,
sherry,
albers
and
kim
springer.
Sarah
bagwell,
please
unmute
and
go.
C
C
So
sherry
albert's
on
the
line
star
sticks
on
mutes.
V
V
I
wanted
to
mention
that
when
my
husband
and
I
bought
this
house-
and
I
saw
that
there
was
gang
activity
in
graffiti
since
my
husband
had
grown
up
in
this
neighborhood,
I
became
active
as
a
block
club
leader
and
it
was
kind
of
the
city's
movement
at
that
time
to
create
block
clubs
and
work
with
ccp
safe
and
that's
what
we
did
and
we
started
to
organize
neighbors
and
get
to
know
each
other.
V
V
V
The
person
who
told
all
these
people
that
this
was
going
to
happen
because
I
heard
about
it
from
someone
else
and-
and
I
think
it
was
a
failure
of
our
neighborhood
organization
to
let
people
properly
know
many
of
our
in
our
neighborhood
are
responding
to
this
displacement,
and
you
can
tell
because
so
many
people
are
testifying
and
have
sent
you
information
that
we
are
still
connected.
This
connection
is
not
dead
and
these
33
individuals,
I've
known
for
many
years.
V
V
I
ask
that
the
commissioners
not
grant
such
tone
mental
health
experience
for
another
reason
is
that
our
neighbors
will
be
replaced
by
new
people
who
rotate
in
and
out
every
90
days,
people
who
have
no
foothold
in
our
community.
The
efforts
we've
made
to
build
strong
connections
on
this
block
will
erode
the
police
reports
that
I
submitted.
They
should
be
in
your
packet,
come
from
touchstones,
fridley
and
bloomington
residences.
W
V
See
while
I'm
aware
of
the
safety
issues
in
my
neighborhood,
we've
been
dealing
with
them
all
these
years
and
with
the
homeless
encampment
this
summer,
which
was
panoramic
right
outside
our
front
door.
Here
I
stood
out
there
with
my
neighbors,
with
my
my
latino
neighbors,
as
we
watched
crime
after
crime
committed
we're
all
terrorized
by
what
happened
and
the
chaos
on
lake
street
two
blocks
away,
I'm
afraid
I
I
do
fear
having
this
business
next
door
to
me.
V
I
am
now
a
widow
and
I
live
alone
in
my
big
old
house,
and
actually
I'm
just
simply
afraid.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Next
three
are
tim
springer
robin
russell
and
lily
lamb,
tim
springer,
please
press
star
six
and.
C
AB
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
go
ahead,
hello,
okay,
good
evening,
commissioners,
thank
you
for
conducting
this
hearing.
My
name
is
kim
springer.
AB
I
own
the
property
on
the
other
side
of
the
building,
sherry,
the
woman
that
just
spoke
owns
the
property
immediately
north
of
the
subject:
property
eye
on
the
property
immediately
south
of
the
subject
property.
It's
a
four
plex
at
three
two:
five:
five
dash
five,
seven
fourteen.
Seventy
seven.
AB
So,
first,
the
it's
not
okay,
in
my
opinion,
for
the
city
of
minneapolis
to
say
it
was
another
arm
of
the
city
and
other
ordinance
related
to
the
advanced,
advanced
sale,
ordinance
that
wasn't
followed
and
for
the
to
say
it's
not
our
problem
that
somebody
else's
problem
is
not
okay,
there
may
have
been
different
outcomes
in
terms
of
who
came
forward
to
buy
that
building.
If
that
had
been
followed,
it's
also
not
okay,
to
ignore
the
advanced
notice
of
the
public
hearing
to
impacted
property
owners,
which
is
a
15-day
requirement.
AB
I
received
my
letter
less
than
one
week
before
today
and
the
postmark
on
it
was
less
than
the
15
days
required.
That
would
put
the
city,
I
believe,
in
legal
risk
of
approving
this
today
and
anything
that
happens
after
that
could
be
legally
challenged
because
that
was
not
followed.
It's
also
not
okay,
for
the
conditional
use
permit
report
from
staff
to
ignore
perhaps
the
most
important
issues
and
address
only
things
like
parking
number
of
units
and
whatnot
and
ignore
the
potential
of
screaming
people.
AB
It
does
not
address
these
things,
and
these
are
things
that
are
happening
at
the
other
touchstone
facilities
and
when
we
get
a
police
report
on
the
seward
facility,
which
we
have
not
gotten
yet
it
will
not
be
entirely
applicable
because
there
are
11
units
in
this
building
and
there
are
only
four
units
in
the
other
building.
AB
So
we
can
expect
whatever
happened
in
seward
to
be
at
least
double,
so
I
am
sympathetic
to
touchstone
needing
to
find
a
facility,
I'm
willing
to
continue
looking
at
this,
but
not
now
likely
I'm
going
to
side
with
everyone
and
say
you
know
I
don't
like
it,
but
I
haven't
come
to
that
conclusion
yet
because
there
hasn't
been
enough
time,
I
want
to
go
door,
knock
around
those
other
facilities
in
the
suburbs
and
talk
to
people
who
live
nearby
and
really
understand
what
happens.
AB
Haven't
had
the
chance
to
do
that.
So,
regarding
being
consistent
with
the
2040
plan
in
addressing
social
justice
issues,
you
would
have
a
big
f
on
this.
If
you're
you're
negatively
impacting
the
33
residents
in
favor
of
16
people
who
may
move
in
but
don't
live
there
now
the
impacts
that
happened
last
summer
when
there
was
a
tent
city
across
the
street
from
our
block
across
the
street.
From
this
building
frequent
gunfire,
people
are
screaming
at
each
other.
AB
All
hours
of
the
night,
speeding
cars,
excessive
litter,
used
drug
needles
on
the
street
sidewalk
and
our
lawns
mean
people
catcalling,
disrespectful
comments
and
threats,
unauthorized
use
of
my
garden
hose,
which
my
tenants
and
I
decided
we
would
allow
until
it
got
left
on
all
night
and
until
the
people
living
in
the
apartment.
Next
to
that
hose,
felt,
unsafe,
frequent
police
responses
to
fights
or
drug
overdoses
or
assaults
and
auto
thefts.
So
we
are
emotionally
raw,
don't
force
this
down
on
throats,
especially
when
you
haven't
followed
your
own
required
procedures
on
notifications.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Our
next
three
folks
are
robin
russell
lilly,
lamb
and
kathleen
sullivan
robin
russell.
Please
unmute
and
state
your
name
and
address
for
the.
Y
AD
Okay,
I
was
listening
to
tim
and
I
I
think
some
of
my
comments
might
have
might
be
a
repeat
of
his
and
I
I
apologize
for
that.
Oh,
I
should
say
I'm
robin
russell.
I
live
at
3201,
14th
avenue,
south
apartment,
104.,
okay,
I'm
going
to
put
this
at
the
top.
I
have
three
main
points,
but
I'm
going
to
put
this
one
at
the
top,
because
this
is,
I
might
put
it
at
the
bottom
again
too.
I
don't
know
the
information
that
the
the
staff
member
provided
to
you
about.
AD
The
ordinance
is
incorrect.
She
implied
that
the
60-day
notice
to
be
given
to
the
tenants
is
before
the
building
is
sold.
That
is
not
correct.
I'm
going
to
read
to
you
from
the
the
frequently
at
the
faq
document
on
the
city
website.
AD
It
says
the
affordable
housing,
building,
sale,
ordinance,
chapter
blah
blah
blah
requires
any
owner
who
intends
to
sell
an
affordable
housing
building
to
notify
the
city
of
minneapolis
and
residents
of
the
building
by
posting,
a
notice
conspicuously
in
the
building's
common
area.
Wait
for
it
at
least
60
days
prior
to
making
the
building
available
for
sale.
AD
This
is
the
second
time
since
this
ordinance
has
been
in
effect
that
the
affordable,
housing
building,
sale
ordinance
has
been
violated.
The
current
owner
purchased
this
building
in
january
of
2020
and
okay.
I
can't
be
for
positive,
but
I'm
strongly
suspecting.
We
haven't
had
time
to
do
all
our
research,
but
I'm
strongly
suspecting
that
there
was
no
notification
in
january
of
2020
in
under
the
ordinance
of
the
affordable
building.
Housing
sale,
ordinance.
AD
Okay,
so
I
hope
that's
really
clear
going
forward
in
terms
of
notification.
It's
we
have
been
working
like
what
do
you
say?
I
I
don't
know
chickens
with
their
heads
cut
off
to
to
try
to
prepare
for
this
public
hearing
today,
and
a
part
of
that
was
because
we
were
not
given
proper
notification
that
the
public
hearing
was
happening.
AD
The
I
think
this
is
probably
where
tim
went
over
some
of
this,
but
the
neighborhood
association
they
notice
shall
not
be
less
not
less
than
21
days.
The
neighborhood
association
gave
the
community
11
days
notice
notice
to
affected
property.
This
is
of
the
public
hearing
again
notice
to
the
affected
property
owner
shall
not
be
less
than
15
days.
Property
owner's
report
notices
received
six
to
nine
days
in
advance
of
the
public
hearing
posting
of
the
involved
building
that
would
be
3251.
AD
That
notice
should
have
been
10
days
not
not
later
than
10
days.
It
says
in
the
in
the
zoning
code,
notice
was
posted
seven
days
in
advance
in
english,
and
most
of
the
residents
are
are
spanish
speakers
so
anyway,
I'm
I'm
just
gonna,
try
to
stick
to
the
facts
and
move
forward
here.
AD
Well,
no.
I've
already
said
the
facts.
Now
I
get
to
say
my
opinion.
Okay,
while
I
I
I
I'm
okay
well,
I
do
think
their
clue
right,
location
for
touchdown
mental
health
somewhere
in
our
community.
I
am
concerned
that
our
densely
residential
part
of
the
neighborhood
is
not
optimal
for
touchstone.
AD
Reports
that
we
have
made
that
we
have
available
to
us
so
far
show
that
that
the
police
are
out
at
the
touchdown
facilities
two
to
three
times
a
month,
and
this
would
be
at
their
suburban
location
to
have
that
much
police
activity
on
a
block
in
a
community
that
has
such
a
complicated
relationship
with
police.
Given
our
recent
history,
it
would
be
stressful
and
traumatic
for
all
parties.
AD
My
thought
would
be
you
know
if
they,
if
a
location
could
be
found
for
them
on
a
you,
know,
more
of
a
commercial
corridor
and
not
not
in
such
a
it's.
It's
really.
It's
really
a
dense
dense,
all
residential
community.
It's
just
this
building
is
just
really
feet
from
from
a
dead
end,
a
cul-de-sac
that
goes
down
into
the
park.
So
I
don't
know
it's
it's
just
it
would
be.
AD
It
would
be
difficult
having
police
there
that
often
okay,
that
that's
all
I'm
going
to
say,
but
I
again
I
I
just
want
to.
I
want
to
really
emphasize
that
the
ordinance
be
understood
the
thing
is
is
if
this
ordinance
would
have
been
followed.
We
wouldn't
even
be
here
at
this
meeting
today
because
we're
powder
horn
and
we
believe
that
we
have
the
ability
to
solicit
it,
of
solicit
and
affordable
housing,
preservationist
to
preserve
this
property
and
and
that's
or
or
to
purchase
this
property.
And
that's
that's
our
goal.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Our
next
three
folks
on
the
list
are
lily,
lamb,
kathleen
sullivan
and
then
rosa
galicia,
so
lily
lamb,
please
unmute
and
stitch
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
AE
Oh
sorry
about
that,
my
name
is.
I
AE
AE
AE
But
I
would
ask
you
to
instead
delay
any
decision
on
this
until
there's
a
better
understanding
of
how
the
outcome
for
everyone
involved
can
be.
I
support
touchstone
mental
health
purposes
and
the
good
works
that
they
do
in
the
community
and
I'm
also
extremely
concerned
about
the
displacement
of
our
fellow
neighbors
and
hope
that
we
can
find
something
that
leads
to
a
better
outcome
for
everyone
around
thanks
for
your
time.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Our
next
three
folks
on
the
list
are
kathleen
sullivan,
rosa
galicia
and
bethany
brzezinski,
so
kathleen
sullivan
is
up
next,
please
press
star
six
to
unmute
state,
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
I
C
Very
good
and
very
good
and
recall
that
if
anyone
needs
translation
services,
we
have
a
translator
on
the
line.
Z
C
A
I
C
C
Okay
and
if
you
could
say
that
also
in
spanish
and
then
her
name
is.
AF
C
Anna
might
also
have
her
her
own
phone
muted.
A
C
There
was
somebody
else
with
anna,
but
I
don't
hear
any
anybody
on
the
line
right
now,
although
rit
folks
are
saying
that
anna
is,
he
is
on
the
line.
The
number
is
on
the.
I
C
The
person
who
is
with
anna
can
hear
me
as
well.
We
cannot
hear
you
if
you
can
hit
star
sex
to
try
to
unmute
or
also
check
to
mute
on
your
own
device.
I
think
it
sounds
like,
and
his
number
is
online
and
unmuted,
so
we
I
think
it
might
be
on
your
device
and.
AD
V
V
AF
AF
B
V
Oh,
I'm
sorry,
sir.
I'm
sorry,
okay,
now
we're
in
the
hallway,
so
it
won't
interfere
with
our
computer
and
I'm
going
to
pass
the
phone
to
anna
and
so
just
give
her
a
minute
to
catch
her
breath,
and
I
think
this
should
work
interpreter.
Can
you
hear
or
should
we
use
our
interpreter
right
next
to
us.
W
I
can
hear
everybody,
but
I
for
some
reason,
can
you
hear
me.
V
W
V
W
W
AH
Z
W
So
I
we
were
not
aware
now
we're
aware
that
he
wants
to
sell
our
place
and
we
are
asking
him
please
let
us
live
here.
W
Z
Z
Z
W
W
AH
V
W
W
AH
AH
W
AH
AH
AH
W
I
want
you
to
take
us
into
consideration
that
if
he
is
going
to
sell
this
place
because
he
doesn't
sell
this
place
to
a
company
that
wants
to
open
a
rehab
rehab
facility
could
be
other
buyers
that
could
buy
this
building.
That
can
perhaps
we
can
still
be
living
in
this
building.
W
So
I
also
know
pandemia
and
mostly
what
I'm
told
in
the
pandemic,
and
mostly.
W
AH
W
AH
W
C
Thank
you
very
much,
and,
and
thanks
spoke
to
rosa
and
hannah,
for
your
patience
as
we
sort
of
think.
C
I
W
Hi,
this
is
secretary.
V
I
am
currently
with
yolanda
augustine
and
gilberto
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
the
best
to
do
this
on
the
phone
or
via
zoom.
Just
tell
me.
W
AC
W
Of
the
older
people
that
understood
me,
we
here
in
this
place,
we
take
people,
take
care
of
each
other.
W
AC
W
Let's
say
someone
mentioned
in
in
this
testimony:
is
that
someone
there's
a
person
or
a
company
that
may
help
us
to
just
displace
us
to
leave
somewhere
else.
But
what's
going
to
happen
to
us.
C
Thank
you,
and
could
we
get
the
I'm
not
sure
if
we
got
that
testifier's
name
on
the
record.
W
Q
Y
O
W
AC
You
affordable,
affordable
living
at
this
time
can.
V
Oh
okay,
can
you
hear
me
now?
I'm
sorry.
X
C
As
a
former
paralegal,
if
you
can
state
your
name
and
and
then
go
ahead,.
V
Okay,
sorry,
my
name
is
angelina.
I
live
at
3303
14th
avenue,
so
I
just
want
to
just
emphasize
how
difficult
things
are
for
families
right
now.
I
work
in
education
as
an
interpreter,
especially
immigrant
families
are
just
trying
to
get
by
at
this
time.
It
is
an
undue
burden
to
place
on
them
to
relocate
in
one
of
the
historically
worst
times
skyrocketing
rent
pandemic.
V
V
I
also
want
to
impress
upon
the
commission
that,
as
a
former
paralegal
working
for
an
immigration
attorney,
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
immigration
proceedings,
but
if
they
do,
it
can
be
extremely
dangerous
for
them
to
be
displaced.
It
takes
months
to
correspond
with
uscis,
which
is
immigration
and
customs
services.
V
If
a
letter
is
lost,
if
correspondence
is
lost,
somebody
can
get
put
into
proceedings,
removal
proceedings,
families
can
be
separated.
This
can
destroy
lives.
I
don't
think
it's
worth
possibly
destroying
the
lives
of
several
families
who
are
valued
in
this
community
when
there
are
open
buildings
in
this
area,
which
touchstone
could
find.
Thank
you
for
listening.
I.
C
Very
good,
thank
you.
Is
there
anybody
else
on
this
line
that
we
have
open
or
where
I
think,
there's
a
number
of
folks.
Otherwise
I
have
a
couple
other
people
on
my
queue
here.
C
All
right
is
bethany
berzinski
on
the
line.
C
Q
AD
Q
Thank
you,
mr
president,
and
members
of
the
planning
commission.
I
may
know
on
approval.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
allowing
me
to
testify
today.
My
name
is
jason
chavez.
My
pronouns,
are
he
him
his
and
I
am
a
resident
of
ward
9..
I've
been
working
with
community
members
around
the
plan
that
returned
this
residential
building
into
a
residential
treatment
service
for
rehabilitation
housing.
It
is
important
to
have
a
city
like
this
in
our
ward,
because
our
community
needs
it,
but
not
at
the
expense
of
one
another.
Q
We
need
to
understand
what
is
actually
happening
here.
The
owner
of
this
building
violated
an
ordinance
that
would
require
a
60-day
written
notice
prior
to
it
being
available
for
sale.
This
decision
will
leave
community
members
without
a
place
to
call
home.
We
know
that
this
pandemic
has
hit
our
bipod
communities
the
hardest,
and
today's
decision
will
begin
the
displacement
of
latinx
and
somali
families
who
are
already
struggling
as
they
read
through
the
documents
provided
today.
Relocation
services
are
not
enough.
Q
C
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
gonna
circle
back
is
kutau
back
on
the
line.
C
All
right,
it
sounds
like
no
is
there
anybody
else
on
the
line
wishing
to
testify?
If
so,
please,
press
star
sex,
that's
unmuted,.
AG
C
Yes,
then
go
ahead,
please
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
go
ahead.
AG
AG
there's
a
few
things.
I'd
like
to
bring
up,
I
am
very
disturbed.
I
still
haven't
got
noticed.
I
live
with
within
350
feet
of
that
building
and
I
did
not
get
notification
about
this
hearing.
The
tenants
did
not
get
their
necessary
60-day
notice
before
the
building
was
put
up
for
sale.
It's
already
has
an
agreement
on
it.
The
the
the
seller
or
the
owner
is
a
realtor
and
should
be
responsible
doing
the
right
thing.
I
know
if
I
did
something
like
this
there.
You
know
I.
AG
I
hope
you
don't
have
two
sets
of
rules.
If
you
know
making
this
thing,
ok,
that
someone
could
skip
steps
because
they're
dealing
with
a
non-profit
versus
just
another
private
seller.
I
I
think
that
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
bring
up
is
powderhorn
park
association
that
says
they've
been
working
with
the
neighborhood.
I
don't
think
they've
been
working
with
the
neighborhood.
They
might
be
working
with
the
group
that
wants
to
buy
the
building,
but
we
we
they
had
a
meeting.
AG
I
just
found
out
about
this
last
week
from
another
neighbor.
They
had
a
meeting
where
only
the
the
the
buyers.
Once
we
spoke,
we
were
not
allowed
to
talk,
not
ask
any
questions.
It
was
we've
not
been
part
of
the
conversation.
AG
AG
AG
We're
still
we're
I'm
trying
we're
still
trying
to
get
rid
of
the
increased
drug
dealers
in
the
neighborhood.
I
do
and
that
and
that's
the
other
thing
I
would.
How
does
this
help
someone
trying
to
recover
from
drugs
being
so
close
to
where
there's
people
selling
drugs
and
the
reason
they
want
to
be
in
minneapolis,
apparently
are
talking
about
the
clientele
that
would
be
there
is
so
that
they
could
be
close
to
their
friends,
I
doubt
with
other
non-profits
and
when
you're
dealing
with
someone
with
substance
abuse.
AG
AG
AG
You
know
shoestone
can
have,
has
other
choices.
They
said
they
had
other
choices
of
buildings,
but
they
wanted
to
be
in
minneapolis
so
because
the
people
wanted
to
be
close
to
their
friends.
But
I
say
to
you
these
people
here,
if
they're
displaced,
they're
likely
to
end
up
in
the
suburbs,
especially
if
they
want
to
try
to
stay
together,
because
there's
not
going
to
be
housing
for
them
where
they
can
stay
together.
That
many.
AG
You
know
that
many
units-
and
I
I
I
also
don't
see
how
this
is
helpful-
to
take
long-term
residents
and
turning
and
having
a
revolving
door
across
the
street
from
the
park
where
there,
where
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
could
go
wrong.
If
you
have
someone
that
has
has
issues-
and
you
know
I
I
think
we-
this
neighborhood
has
been
asked
to
take
to
we've-
we've
just
been
too
much.
There's
people
that
actually
have
post-traumatic
stress
syndrome
living
in
the
neighborhood
for
what's
already
happening.
AG
Okay,
I
I
I
am
so
disappointed.
I'm
just
so
disappointed
that
that
someone
could
do
everything
wrong,
and
it's
already
moved
to
this
point
and
and
and
no
one
stopped
it
stopped
it.
The
this
thing
should
we
started
all
over
again.
We
do
need
to
continue
this
to
a
later
date.
I
don't
think
it's
it's
right
to
even
vote
on
this
today,
especially
says
you
know
are
aware
now
that
the
the
policies
weren't
followed.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
X
C
There
it
sounded
like
there
may
have
been
another
person
on
the
line
wishing
to
testify.
C
Is
that
true?
If
so,
please
unmute
yourself,
star
sex
state,
your
name.
C
If
we
can
also
ask
in
spanish
just
to
double
check,
there's
no
one
else,
spanish
speaking
on
the
line
who
wishes
to
testify.
C
Anybody
else
wishing
to
testify
translators,
online
unmuted.
V
I'm
trying
to
assist
the
interpreter.
No
one
is
apparently
aware
to
hear
is
no
one
can
hear
her,
so
I'm
just
passing
that
along
trying
really
hard,
but
she
keeps
getting
muted
by
somehow.
C
Yes,
do
you
need
a
translator
or
no.
AF
No,
it's
fine
for
me.
I
know
live
in
minneapolis.
V
C
One
more
person:
okay,
we've
got
someone
testifying
right
now
and
then
we'll
we'll
jump
back
to
you.
Does
that
sound
good.
C
Yes,
thank
you.
So
we
have
someone
who
just
started
testifying
and
so
we'll
we'll
come
back
to
you
in
about
two
minutes.
AF
Okay,
I
can
continue.
AF
Thank
you.
My
name
is
antonia
alvarez.
I
live
in
columbia
heights
and
I
have
experience
about
laws,
the
houses
I
was
living
loading
up,
the
mobile
home
park
and
we're
trying
to
save
this
land
for
us
and
it's
a
lot
of
struggles
and
thankful
for
the
latino
immigrants.
In
this
situation,
I'm
organized
with
the
latino
community
for
abort,
affordable
houses,
and
I,
for
I
don't
know
the
commission.
That
is
please
listen
to
me.
This
is
not
justice.
AF
When
you're
trying
to
put
these
buildings
for
support
the
people
when
they
have
a
addiction,
but
you
you
plan
for
them
in
the
streets,
the
latino
immigrants,
especially
with
the
copyrighting.
I
think
it's
no
good
idea.
I
think
this
is
not
justice
and
it's
not
good
example
or
good
representation
from
from
minneapolis.
AF
AF
Stop
not
change
the
the
sunning
and
this
point
because
we
need
waiting
for
looking
for
another
opportunities
by
this
building.
For
save
the
houses
for
the
latino
immigrants,
they
don't
have
another
place
and
they
like
this
place
for
living.
I
I
hope
you
understand
they
can
make
a
decision
and
they
their
decision
for
the
latino
immigrants
is
live
in
this
building
and,
let's
not
put
on
your
decision,
make
it
what
they
need
living.
Thank
you
so
much,
and
I
appreciated
your
consideration,
my
petition,
please.
C
All
right
and
we'll
go
back
to
our
translation
services.
It
sounds
like
there's
another
personal
question
to
testify.
I
W
Thank
you,
I'm
gonna
ask.
W
W
W
And-
and
we
are
here
happy
living
here
with
my
children
and
so
far
for
us-
things
are
calm
here
in
this
area.
W
W
C
No,
no,
no,
no
it's
hard.
When
you
can't
see
everybody
or
it
was
for
me
at
least
all
right.
Is
there
anybody
else
on
the
line?
It
sounds
like
no
one
else
in
the
interpreter's
deck.
Is
there
anybody
else
in
the
line,
the
other?
The
other
call
online
wishing
to
testify.
If
so,
please
press
star
six
to.
C
C
All
right,
I
think
that
is
it
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
hearing,
and
I
know
we
have
a
couple
questions
by
commissioners.
Commissioner,
smiley
first.
I
E
Perfect,
I
guess
my
question
is
for
the
applicant
specifically
and
if
the
applicant
is
not
online,
maybe
staff
know
the
answer
to
that
question.
I'm
wondering
especially
after
all
the
testimonies,
which
I
appreciate
everyone's
time
and
effort
putting
into
it
and
all
the
that
you
know.
E
Being
so
honest,
I
appreciate
it.
I
wouldn't
I'm.
I
guess
my
I
want
to
know
whether
or
not
there
were
other
options
that
were
considered.
Is
this
really?
The
only
the
only
possible
option
that
can
happen
is
to
take
a
an
already
occupied
housing
that
is
working
and
is
full
to
take
that
and
replace
it
with
something
else,
as
opposed
to
maybe
another
site
close
by
that
can
be
rehab
that
maybe
is
even
vacant.
H
V
Yeah
touchstone
has
been
looking
for
a
new
building
for
over
a
year
and
we've
looked
at
so
many
buildings
and
we've
tried
churches,
we've
tried
old
restaurants,
we've
tried
commercial
spaces
and
I've
always
been
given
the
you
know.
The
know
that
it
was
part
of
the
2040
plan
that
it
couldn't.
You
know
that
it
wasn't
going
to
be
able
to
be
zoned.
V
We
found
other
apartment
buildings,
so
this
is
actually
the
first
building
that
came
anywhere
near
what
we
needed,
that
we
got
a
yes,
that
it
was
r5
that
it
could
be
a
conditional
use
permit,
and
so
it
you
know.
I
will
say
that
the
owner
of
the
building
did
not
do
the
due
diligence
that
put
us
in
a
negative
spot.
He
was
you
know
he.
He
just
was
very
unaware
of
this
affordable
housing
rule,
so
he
did
not
inform
the
city.
Actually
I
actually
did
inform
him.
V
I
think
a
number
of
people
did
on
the
same
day
when
we
all
found
out,
but
yeah
put
us
in
a
very
bad
spot
that
he
didn't
know
that
he
was
an
owner
of
natural,
affordable,
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing.
V
So
you
know
we
have
a
location
that
really
doesn't
meet
our
needs
because
of
covid19.
V
Tenants
are
sharing
bedrooms
and
it's
not
an
ideal
space
and
we've
been
there
29
years
and
we
really
need
to
have
a
good
healing
environment
for
the
people
that
we
serve
and
that's
our
mission
and
that's
what
we
our
desire
is
to
have
a
good
healing
location
to
have
single
bedrooms,
adequate
staff
space,
and
I
would
love
to
find
a
building
that
didn't
have
people
in
it
that
we
could
get
zoned.
So
we've
looked
and
looked
and
looked
so.
C
Very
good,
thank
you,
commissioner.
Wilson.
P
Thanks
my
question
is
for
staff:
I'm
just
wondering
how,
if
at
all,
would
the
commission
voting
on
this
application
change
or
influence
the
process
for
like
the
required
notice
of
advanced
sale?
You
could.
J
Just
kind
of
walk
us
through
that
sure.
Thank
you
for
the
question,
commissioner
olsen.
So
a
couple
of
things
here
and
I'll
hope
through
all
of
this
that
I
actually
do
answer
your
question,
but
the
advanced
notice
of
sale
ordinance
is
something
that
is
relevant
to
the
city,
it's
something
that
is
not
designing
code
and
is
actually
enforced,
interpreted
and
evaluated
by
our
cped
housing
team,
so
not
by
myself
or
by
any
of
the
planners
on
this
call.
J
Today,
the
city
does
not
have
any
involvement
in
or
access
to,
the
transaction
documents
related
to
private
property
sales
like
this
one.
Neither
does
the
city
have
the
authority
to
undo
a
real
estate
purchase
that
did
or
does
not
comply
with
the
advanced
notice
requirements,
our
only
remedy
of
well,
we
don't
have
a
remedy
of
reversion.
All
the
city
can
do
with
the
ordinance.
That's
on
the
books.
Right
now
is
to
impose
a
financial
penalty
with
an
administrative
citation
or
the
far
less
likely
option,
which
is
misdemeanor
criminal
prosecution.
J
So
what
we
can
and
have
done
in
this
particular
case,
and
when
I
say
we,
you
know
cped
as
a
whole.
This
came
from
our
housing
staff,
they
did
send
information
to
the
existing
property
owner
as
a
warning
that
the
city
believes
they
may
be
in
violating
requirements,
and
the
owner
may
wish
to
proceed
with
the
sale
on
their
current
timeline
or
schedule,
or
they
may
wish
to
provide
advanced
notice
to
the
city.
Hello
can.
J
S
W
J
Yep
and
any
advance
notice
given
again
would
require
a
60-day
waiting
period
before
they
complete
the
transaction,
and
during
that
time
the
owner
may
or
may
not
choose
to
entertain
additional
offers
either
way.
The
existing
tenants
would
be
eligible
for
financial
resources
to
help
with
relocation.
J
All
of
that
said,
the
advanced
notice
of
sale
requirements
again
are
outside
of
the
zoning
code
and
are
not
in
any
way
tied
to
the
conditional
use
permits
they
can.
We
have
findings
that
we
need
to
make
so
that
for
the
conditional
use
permit,
but
approving
the
conditional
use
permit
does
not
have
any
bearing
on
the
sale
or
vice
versa,
from
the
way
the
ordinance
is
written.
So
a
conditional
use
permit
is
granted
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
the
timeline
for
the
advanced
notice
of
sale
can't
be
met
again.
J
You
know,
the
sale
of
the
property
itself
is
not
directly
tied
to
the
conditional
use
permits,
and
so
the
applicant
or
the
owner
of
the
property
would
still
you
know
through.
The
summary
I
just
gave
have
the
options
on
the
table
to
revise
their
schedule,
regardless
of
how
the
commission
acts
on
the
conditional
use.
Permit
today,
so
I
know
that
was
a
really
long
answer
that
hopefully
addressed
your
question.
J
E
Yeah
and
thank
you,
commissioner,
luke
here
in
in
following
up
with
what
the
applicant
said
in
terms
of
not
having
been
able
to
find
a
site
that
would
have
been
possible
to
rezone
or
zone
appropriately
and
whatnot.
I
guess
I
just
want
to
follow
up
with
staff,
and
maybe
I
mean
ourselves
that
that's
something
that
we
should
look
into.
E
I
don't
understand
why
this
would
have
not
been
possible
anywhere
else
in
the
city,
but
in
this
one
location
I
don't
think
that
is
accurate
to
be
honest
and,
and
I'm
sure
there
are
lots
of
other
conditions
and
the
overlay
of
all
of
those
conditions
has
resulted
in
like
a
handful
of
sites
and
whatnot,
but
at
the
same
time
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
none
of
the
none
of
our
zoning
codes
and
ordinances
are
in
are
a
burden
to
to
begin
with.
E
J
So
on
that
note,
I
was
actually
on
the
receiving
ends
of
many
copied
on
the
receiving
end
of
many
of
the
emails
that
the
applicant
sent
to
zoning
administration
staff
as
they
inquired
about
various
sites
in
the
city
over
the
process.
You
know
maybe
a
year
to
18
months,
so
locating
a
community
residential
facility
with
32
people
can
be
very
difficult
in
the
city
of
minneapolis.
J
So
not
only
is
that
a
category
that
falls
under
our
congregate
living
uses,
it
is
a
community
residential
facility
with
32
people
is
only
allowed
in
our
highest
density
zoning
districts.
We
also
have
a
quarter
mile
spacing
requirements
for
all
of
our
congregate
living
facilities
that
they
have
to
be
spaced,
at
least
a
quarter
mile
from
one
another
that
really
really
limits
possible
locations
in
the
city
for
locating
new
community
residential
facilities.
J
That
is
something
that
is
definitely
on
our
radar
and
may
already
be
on
the
code.
Development
team's
work
plan
is
doing
a
complete
overhaul
of
the
way
we
regulate
all
of
our
congregate
living
uses.
It's
really
complicated
because
it
also
is
somewhat
dictated
by
the
way
uses
are
licensed
through
the
states,
but
I
can
say
that
it
is
indeed
very
difficult
and
we
are
aware
of
it
and
hope
to
address
that
with
our
co-development
team
through
a
text
amendment
sometime,
I
can't
give
a
timeline.
C
Thank
you
kimberly,
commissioner,.
K
Yes,
I
had
a
question
for
the
applicant.
My
question
is
just
I
know
we
just
talked
to
our
kimberly.
Just
talked
about
finding
a
facility
for
32
beds.
How
many
beds
does
your
current
facility
have
that
you
were
talking
about
how
people
share
bedrooms
and
whatnot.
V
So
we're
not
allowed
to
have
more
than
16
people
on
site,
and
so
that's
what
the
new
program
would
be
16
and
our
current
facility
that
we
have
in
the
sewage
neighborhood
has
14
can
be
up
to
14
people,
and
we
have
nine
bedrooms
in
that
facility.
Currently.
So
a
number
of
the
individuals
that
stay
at
our
residential
program
have
to
share
bedrooms.
K
J
Saying
I
apologize
for
the
confusion,
so
we
have
three
categories
of
congregate
living
uses
in
the
city.
One
goes
up
to
eight
beds.
One
goes
up
to
16.
One
goes
up
to
32
and
the
more
beds
the
higher
category
required
in
order
to
legally
establish
the
use.
K
J
J
K
Sounds
like
if
this
is
allowed
to
buy
a
cup
in
any
zoning
district
up
to
16
people.
In
theory.
It's
it's
a
spacing,
but
it's
probably
more
off
more
likely
land
pricing.
I
would
imagine
that
there's
plenty
of
open
space
in
certain
areas
of
our
city,
and
not
so
much
in
others-
is
that
at
least
that
would
be.
My
question
for
the
applicant
is:
is
that
in
fact,
the
case
since,
since
staff
has
determined
that
it
could
have
gone
in
any
zoning
de
classification
throughout
the
entire
city.
C
Are
there
other
questions?
Commissioners,
I've
got
one
while
we're
thinking
of
whether
there
are
other
questions
we
heard
a
number
of
folks
asking
for
this
to
get
delayed
for
various
amounts
of
time
could
either
lindsay
or
kimberly
won.
Both
tell
us
where
we
are
on
the
60-day
rule.
I
think
we're
still
in
the
initial
60
days
and
two
just
explain
for
listeners
what
the
60-day
rule
is,
because
I
believe,
if
we
don't
act
on
something
in
a
certain
amount
of
time.
Actually
the
application
is
just
approved.
U
That's
correct:
I
can
answer
this
one.
The
application
was
deemed
complete
on
december
8th,
which
means
the
end
of
the
60-day
decision
period
is
february.
6.,
the
60-day
rule
is
a
state
law
that
requires
that
all
land-use
applications
be
acted
on
within
60
days.
U
The
city
does
have
the
discretion
to
extend
that
by
another
60
days
for
a
total
of
120
days.
I
don't
have
the
exact
date,
but
that
would
push
it
forward
until
early
april.
However,
that
at
that
point
it's
a
hard
deadline
and
the
city
has
to
make
a
decision
and
determination
on
the
application.
Otherwise
it
does
automatically
become
approved
unless,
unless
it
were
to
be
withdrawn,.
C
Right
and
so,
and
the
city
has
to
make
a
final
determination
by
that
time,
which
means
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
that
that
the
final
determination
means
it
has
to
have
had
time
to
go
both
to
the
city,
planning,
commission
and
bake
in
time,
for
it
to
get
appealed
to
the
city
council
and
for
the
city
council
to
make
a
decision
so
the
city
council.
So
the
planning
commission
would
actually
have
to
make
a
decision
a
fair
amount
before
that
april
date.
In
order
to
account
for
that
process.
Is
that
right.
U
That's
correct,
so
we
would
have
to
ensure
that
the
application
was
acted
on
by
the
planning
commission
at
a
meeting
that,
if,
if
the
application
was
appealed,
would
go
to
a
zoning
and
planning
committee
meeting
and
city
council
meeting
that
would
still
comply
with
that
120
day
deadline.
That
also
has
to
account
for
mayor's
signature
and
publication.
U
So
you
know
it,
and
I
I
don't
have
the
formal,
the
formal
timeline
here,
but
I
mean
the
latest
would
be
sometime
in
february.
C
Right,
so
we
I
mean,
because
we
heard
a
few
folks
ask
for
a
delay
of
you
know
six
months
or
so,
but
if
we
were
to
do
that,
we
would
effectively
just
approve
the
application,
so
we
have
our
inside
a
little
bit
on
our
our
timing.
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
Muncie,
commissioner
meyer.
AI
Yeah
I'd
like
further
clarification
so
because
I
was
going
to
propose
to
continue
the
application
until
march
8th,
but
you
said
late
february
is
the
latest
that
you
could
extend
it
and
still
be
in
the
timeline.
If
we
continued
this
item
until
february
22nd,
would
that
still
be
within
the
timeline
that
it
wouldn't
be
automatically
approved.
U
I
can't
give
I
I
would
probably
need
about
a
few
minutes
to
calculate
exactly
when
that
would
expire
when
the
120
day
would
expire,
yes
march
for
sure
would
be
too
late
february.
22Nd
may
also
be
too
late,
because
I
don't,
I
don't
have
the
information
on
when
that
120
days
expires
and
then
when
it
would
finally
be
published,
which
is
when
the
ordinance
is
finally
approved
in
the
case
of
an
appeal,
but
I
can
do
that
quickly
here.
AI
Okay,
while
you're
doing
that
I'll
just
make
a
few
additional
comments,
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
make
some
changes
and
you
know
appeal
to
the
council
to
make
changes
to
enable
more
congregate
living
in
the
city.
This
is
something
that
we
certainly
need
more
of,
but
if
at
all
possible,
we
want
to
do
it
without
displacing
vulnerable
people.
AI
So
I
want
to
do
whatever
we
can
to
give
people
the
opportunity
to
purchase
this
property
on
their
own,
and
I
mean
it
seems
like
there
are
different
opinions
about
whether
the
law
was
complied
with
in
this
case,
but
I
think,
certainly,
I
think
it's
beyond
out
that
the
spirit
of
the
law
was
exactly
for
cases
like
this,
so
I
I
think
we
should
continue
this
for
as
long
as
we're
able
to
and
as
soon
as
lindsay
lets
us
know
how
that
how
long
that
would
be
I'll
make
a
motion
to
that
effect.
C
B
Good
commissioners,
are
there.
C
Other,
yes,
are
there
other
questions
or
thoughts.
C
I
I
did
want
to
note
a
couple
actually
well.
I
want
to
know
one
one
thing
based
on
comments
and
ask
one
other
question
one.
We
did
hear
from
a
few
folks.
You
know
that
the
kind
of
the
application
was
we
were
asking
the
wrong
questions.
I
will
say
that
the
questions
that
were
asked
in
the
staff
report
are
they're
in
the
code
and
several
of
them
are
in
state
law.
C
So
we
were
those
are
not
sort
of
questions
of
curiosity,
but
they
weren't
questions
of
law,
for
which
we
need
to
make
findings.
So
I
wanted
to
clarify
that
two
also
lindsay.
We
did
hear
a
fair
amount
about
notice
issues
as
well.
U
Yeah,
so
I
spoke
with
the
city
clerk
about
that,
since
that
was
raised
in
one
of
the
in
one
of
the
letters
we
received
and
the
city
clerk
did
confirm
that
all
the
360
day
notices
and
the
neighborhood
notice
were
conveyed
to
the
the
copy
center
on
the
appropriate
timeline.
U
She
said
that
she
did
not
have
a
way
to
confirm
exactly
what
day
they
went
out,
but
they
were,
you
know
given
to
the
copy
center
with
plenty
of
time
and
and
as
far
as
we
know,
they
would
have
been
sent
out
on
the
correct
timeline
and,
as
everyone
is
probably
familiar,
the
usps
is
experiencing
significant
delays.
U
The
city
ordinance
regarding
notice
has
a
provision
that,
as
long
as
a
bona
fide
attempt
to
comply
with
the
ordinance
was
made,
the
it
is
considered
that
the
appropriate
notice
was
given,
and
I
believe
that
that's
kind
of
what
is
happening
in
this
case,
where
the
city
sent
out
the
notice
with
you
know
more
than
15
days
or
at
least
on
the
15
day
deadline
to
send
out
the
notice.
U
So
then
the
requirement
is
that
the
the
notice
is
sent
out
15
days
for
the
neighbors
within
350
feet
and
21
days
for
the
neighborhood
group.
So
as
far
as
I'm
able
to
tell
those
deadlines
were
met,
the
delay
seems
to
have
been
in
transit.
C
All
right,
very
good,
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
V
Yes,
the
the
extension
so
we're
under
a
contract,
that's
contingent
on
a
conditional
use
permit,
so
extending
the
owner
owner
isn't
looking
at
other
buyers
while
we're
under
contract.
So
if
the
intent
is
to
have
the
owner
consider
other
buyers,
you
would
need
to
deny
our
conditional
use
permit.
V
V
That
that
is
how
it
would
have
to
go
right
and
we
and
we've
looked
so
hard
for
this
building,
but
I
I
do
understand
we're
a
non-profit
and
we
provide
a
life-saving
service.
We
help
people
leave
homelessness,
so
we
understand
we
certainly
never
want
to
make
anybody
else
homeless
as
well.
So
this
has
put
us
in
a
difficult
position
as
well.
C
Right,
I
understand
that,
thank
you
for
the
clarification
that
that's
how
your
birch
agreement
is
structured,
so
purchase
purchase,
condition
done
approval
conditional
use
permit
right.
So
I
think
that
that
clear,
you
know
clarifying
the
intent
behind
a
continuance.
If
that's
something
that
folks
want
to
move
and
approve,
is
important
and
and
the
intent
and
the
rationale
there.
Okay,
commissioners,
are
there
any
further
questions.
U
Yeah,
so
if
if
the
city
were
to
extend
the
deadline
to
120
days,
that
would
expire
on
april
7th
and
the
meeting,
the
latest
planning
commission
meeting
that
this
application
could
be
delayed
to
would
be
the
february
22nd
meeting.
And
then
we
would
be
able
to
request
early
mayoral
signature
and
still
get
in
under
the
deadline.
C
Thank
you
for
doing
the
math
all
right
commissioners,
or
is
there
further
discussion
any
further
questions
for
staff
or
the
applicant
or
someone
like
to
start
us
off
the
motion.
Commissioner
meyer.
AI
Yeah,
I'm
still
gonna
move
forward
with
the
motion
to
continue
this
item
until
february.
22Nd.
G
C
Commissioners,
eager
to
speak
here
all
right,
we've
got
a
notion
of
a
second
commissioner
meyer.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
that
motion
or
hear
from
all
the
commissioners?
C
AI
Oh
sorry
yeah.
I
I
want
to
just
confirm
the
legalities
of
this,
like
it
seems
that
there's
some
dispute
about
them
and
I
feel
like
a
delay-
is
appropriate.
J
President
rockwell
and
commissioner
meyer,
our
city
attorney
eric
nielsen,
has
opined
on
this
matter,
and
that
coincides
with
the
description
I
gave
earlier
on
the
ordinance
and
how
it
relates
to
this
particular
property.
In
that
the
applicant
does
still
have
the
option
to
revise
their
timeline
and
comply
or
proceed
on
their
current
schedule,
and
that
would
result
in
fines
from
the
city.
AI
Okay,
so
I
I'd
still
like
to
proceed
with
this,
so
that
we
can
have
a
chance
to
review
that,
because
if,
if
the
legal
staff
of
the
city
has
has
opined
on
that,
you
know
I
like
the
opportunity
for
commissioners
to
be
able
to
read
that.
AJ
Yes,
ty,
I
was
just
following
up
with
what
the
applicant
mentioned,
that
you
know
she
needed
a
decision.
It
seemed
like
today
to
go
forward
or
to
not
is
that
she
sent
her.
I
might
have
misheard
her,
so
I
just
wanted
to
understand.
If
delaying
this
would
in
fact
be
useful
to
this.
C
I
think
my
my
understanding
of
what
the
applicant
was
noting
is
that,
if
our
intent
is
to
try
to
provide
the
time
and
space
for
an
alternate
offer
from
an
affordable
housing
landlord
or
from
you
know,
community
coalition
or
any
other
buyer
that
delaying
the
approval
of
conditional
use
permit
does
not
allow
for
that,
because
the
contract
for
sale
for
purchase
and
sale
is
a
contract
based
but
conditioned
on
approval.
The
conditional
use
permit
until
we
actually
opined
one
way
or
another,
that
contract
for
sale
is
still
in
effect.
C
So
so,
if
we
wanted
to
open
this,
so
the
only
way
that
that
contract
ends
up
becoming
getting
out
of
that
country
the
parties
get
out
of
that
contract
is,
is,
I
suppose,
through
mutual
agreement,
but
or
through
us
denying
the
commission
of
this
permit.
If
the
ff
applicant
is
online
and
misstated,
please
jump
in.
C
Commissioner,
did
that
addressed
what
you
were
asking.
AJ
C
Okay,
thank
commissioner
olsen.
C
Okay,
commissioner,
smiley.
C
All
right,
commissioner,
sweesy.
M
Thank
you,
president
rockwell,
a
couple
things
on
on
the
continuance
thing,
specifically
with
respect
to
this
project.
The
the
applicant
has
complied
with
our
timelines
and
deadlines
that
concern
this
commission
and
this
commission's
work
I'll
speak
more
broadly
about
the
effect.
I
think
these
continuances
are
having
on
our
work
generally,
it's
coming
up
much
more
than
it
ever
used
to,
but
but
we
have
to,
I
think
we
have
to
be
realistic
about
this.
M
M
We've
we've
had
this
discussion
before
with
other
things
can
sell
it
to
whomever
they
want
to
giving
somebody
more
time
to
you
know
the
the
owner
of
the
property
doesn't
have
to
consider
other
offers.
They
don't
have
to
do
what
we
tell
them
to
do.
M
The
question
before
us
is
the
appropriateness
of
the
conditional
use
permit
and
we
have
criteria
for
that,
and
I
think
we
have
to
be
careful
about
following
what
we
are
supposed
to
do.
Ms
silas
began
her
presentation
by
talking
about
those
matters
that
are
within
our
purview
and
those
that
are
not,
and
I
think
we
need
to
get
back
to
that.
M
Despite
what
may
be
very,
very
compelling
testimony
that
we
all
want
to
honor
and
acknowledge,
but
it
is
a
right
of
property
owners
to
sell
their
property
consistent
with
the
laws
of
the
state
of
minnesota
and
the
ordinances
of
the
city.
So
there's
that.
Second
of
all,
this
is
the
second
or
third
time.
M
I
can
remember
in
very
recent
history
that
we
are
talking
about
continuing
applications
that
are
before
us
so
that
we
might
change
the
result
of
what
happens
here
based
on
some
other
kind
of
agenda,
and
I
think
that's
a
dangerous
path
for
us
to
go
down
when
the
applicants
have
complied
their
request
here
is
for
a
conditional
use.
Permit.
M
We
either
should
either
have
the
grounds
to
grant
it
or
we
don't
and
that's
what
we
should
do,
but
we
should
not
keep
kicking
these
things
down
the
line
when
the
people
have
complied,
and
the
applicants
have
shown
up
in
good
faith
to
do
what
they're
supposed
to
do
here.
Just
because
we
hope
the
outcome
will
be
different.
So
I
will
be
voting
against
the
motion
to
continue.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner,
commissioner
luke
here.
C
AI
It
was
a
little
unclear
to
me
whether
the
applicant
and
the
property
owner
have
complied
with
everything,
which
is
why
I
requested
the
convenience,
but
I
would
be
willing
to
withdraw
the
motion
if
they're,
if
commissioner
marwa
or
someone
else
can
please
first
articulate
what
the
legal
finding
would
be
for
denial.
C
All
right,
commissioner
luke
here.
K
Thank
you,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say.
I
also
will
not
be
supporting
the
motion
only
because
I
think
we
have
to
stick
with
what
is
in
our
purview,
which
is
the
conditional
use
permit
and
those
six
findings.
So
I
think
we
should
address
those.
I
do
have
concerns,
though
I
my
question
that
I
had
wanted
to
ask
staff
was
whether
we
were
even
legally
allowed
to
act
on
this
if
they,
if
their
previous
ordinance
had
been
broken
in
the
negotiation
of
the
landfill
the
first
place.
K
But
it
sounds
as
though
that's
been
kind
of
asked
and
answered
by
the
city
attorney
that
these
are
two
independent
things
that
can
happen
and
the
landowner
might
have
violated
an
ordinance,
but
likely
will
just
receive
a
fine,
and
if
it's
deemed
that,
in
fact
they
did
violate
it,
which
it
sounds
as
though
they
did.
I
do
just
want
to
say
that
I
feel
as
though
this
is
like
the
advanced
notice
requirement
is
like
an
ordinance
that
has
really
no
teeth.
K
I
mean
it
has
fines
and
that's
it,
and
it
gives
people
false
hope.
So
I
almost
am
more
disappointed
in
it.
As
an
ordinance,
because
I
feel
like
we're
going
to
be
seeing
a
lot
of
this
and
commissioner
sweesey
is
completely
right-
it
is
a
private
land
sale
they
can
sell
to
whoever
they
want
sounds
like
almost
whenever
they
want
and,
however
they
want-
and
unfortunately
that's
not
one
of
the
required
findings
in
front
of
us.
So
I
I
think
we
have
to
actually
just
vote
on
the
item
tonight.
In
my.
S
Thank
you,
sir
rockwell.
I
I
also
won't
be
supporting
the
motion.
I
think
that
I'm
too,
I
I
agree
with
commissioner
sweesy's
points
and
to
lucky's
peers
points
about
the
advance
notice
of
sales,
one
of
the
authors
of
that
ordinance.
S
It
is
a
first
step,
I
agree
and
said
at
the
time
it
does
not
have
the
teeth.
I
think
many
wanted,
but
it
is
something
that,
in
order
to
go
after
other
laws
such
as
the
tenant
opportunity
to
purchase
act
that
I'm
also
working
on
that
is
not
passed
yet
and
is
not
the
law
yet
that
you
need
to
have
some
type
of
notice
structure,
so
it
in
the
the
passing
of
that
it's.
S
It
is
not
going
to
get
us
to
the
to
the
full
area
where
we
have
that
we're
hoping
for
as
a
city,
but
it
is,
it
was
really
seen
as
a
first
step
and
a
way
to
really
enable
other
laws
that
are
coming
after
it
and
also
to
have
that
conversation.
It
was
not
as
after
I'm
saying
that
it
didn't
go
as
far
as
many
would
like
it.
It
also
was
hard
to
pass.
S
We
had
a
opposition,
we
had
a
lot
of
work
with
stakeholders
to
make
sure
that
advanced
notice
would
alleviate
some
of
the
concerns
and
also
go
forward
and
see
how
that
acted
within
the
city.
So
we're
we're
testing
that
out
a
couple
things
I
want
to
highlight
from
the
staff
on
the
fine,
like
some
of
that.
That's
as
far
as
that
ordinance
goes
for
advance
notice.
S
It
is
just
defined
it
does
not.
We,
it
is
very,
very
difficult
to
infringe
on
who
property
private
property
is
sold
in
between
the
city
can't
get
in
between
that.
We
have
no
kind
of
legal
area
to
do
that.
I
think
to
some
of
the
other
commissioners
points.
What's
persuasive
for
me
is
I.
I
cannot
think
of
a
reason
that
we
would
justify
being
able
to
delay
or
to
deny
this.
As
folks
have
mentioned
already,
you
know
they
they've
complied.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Schroeder.
Are
there
any
other
commissioners
wishing
to
comment,
commissioner
smiley.
E
I
unfortunately
am
on
the
same
boat
as
much
as
it
hurts
me
to
say
that,
and
I
understand
when
you
know
when
you
do
or
you
do
not
have
the
legal
perfute
to
act
on
on
something
that
you
wish
you
could
at
the
same
time,
I'm
I'm
hoping
that
one
thing
that
we
can
at
some
point
look
at
is
additional
protections
for
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
in
terms
of
proposals
that
could
potentially
endanger
any
units
that
are
naturally
occurring,
affordable,
housing.
We
have
seen
those
in
well.
E
I
have
seen
those
in
other
cities
as
well
that
have
happened,
that
many
many
residents
have
been
displaced
with
with
projects
or
buildings
being
bought
by
someone
else
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
being
upgraded
or
whatever.
What
have
you
in
the
building
and
the
rents
went
up
and
therefore
they
were
not
affordable,
anymore
and
some
were
displaced.
In
that
sense,
some
are
being
displaced
in
a
sense
of
the
project
that
are
in
front
of
us
right
now.
E
So
I
guess
maybe
there
is
already,
and
if
there
is,
I
would
like
staff
to
maybe
inform
you
of
that,
but
basically,
what?
How
can
we,
additionally,
with
additional
incentives
or
disincentives,
however,
we
can
protect
these
units.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner,
smiley
commissioner.
AJ
I
wanted
to
to
ask
staff
if
it
was,
you
know
sorry
I
can
put
my
camera
on.
If
there
was,
you
know
a
way
that
we
could.
You
know,
study
the
the
limitations
that
are,
you
know
hindering
this
kind
of
housing
from
being
able
to
be
somewhere
else.
I
mean
getting
getting
rid
of
affordable
housing
for
for
different
types
of
you
know.
AJ
I
mean
where
I
think,
all
the
com,
all
the
comments
said
it
better
than
I
can
about
why
this
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
be
in
this
location,
but
you
said
that
there
are
there's
limiting
factors
that
are
you
know.
Can
we
study
that
about?
Maybe
it's
reducing
that
25
or
I
forget
exactly
the
number
that
you
said
the
rule
around
it.
That
could
be
a
way
to
continue
this.
Maybe
so
that
is,
the
study
looks
at
that,
so
that
the
so
that
the
applicant
can
have
more
sites
and
more
availability.
AJ
J
J
Yes,
as
previously
noted,
staff
is
already
adding
a
text
amendment
to
the
work
plan
related
to
our
congregate
living
facilities
and
how
those
are
regulated
in
the
zoning
code.
So
that's
something
that
is
being
worked
on
by
our
co-development
team.
You
know
also.
We
have
spent
many
as
council
member
schrader
can
attest
to
you
know,
hours
and
months
and
years
on
looking
at
tools
for
preserving,
naturally
occurring,
affordable
housing.
None
of
those
tools
are
in
the
zoning
code.
J
You
know
there
is
some
language
that
was
adopted
as
part
of
the
inclusionary
zoning
work,
and
you
know
the
rules
that
we
have
in
place
right
now
again
are,
I
think,
as
councilmember
member
schrader
said,
you
know
really
kind
of
seen
as
a
first
step.
It's
something
that
the
city
will
continue
to
prioritize
and
work
on,
but
that
work
likely
would
not
be
in
the
zoning
code.
AJ
When
do
you
and
intend
for
that
work
that
the
city
is
working
on
right
now
for
the
text
amendment
to
go
through.
J
Like
I
said
that
is
on
jason
wittenberg's
co-development
team
work
plan,
so
we
don't
have
an
actual
timeline
right
now.
They
just
finished
the
adoption
of
all
the
built
form
text,
amendment
work
and
have
a
couple
other
text,
amendments
that
would
be
next
in
line.
So
I
I
can't
give
an
exact
timeline
on
that,
but
it
is
on
the
work
plan.
I
don't
know
if
it's
introduced.
I
would
have
to
verify
that
with
him.
AJ
I
mean
with
that
in
mind.
I
would
just
implore
the
applicant
to
you
know,
take
take
the
idea
that
there's
so
many
other
vacant
sites
and
new
and
commercial
spaces
that
are
empty
right
now
and
that
you
know
this
is
being
studied
on
the
horizon.
To
look
if
they
can.
You
know,
look
at
other
sites,
but
that's
just
me.
Thank
you.
N
N
It's
it's
a
tough
space
to
be
in
knowing
that
this
commission,
I
think
I
referred
to
it
one
day
as
a
yellow
light
and
just
knowing
that
people
are
going
to
be
displaced
so
that
people
can
be
placed
it's
it
hurts,
and
I
I
understand
what
what
we
have
to
do.
I
understand
because
we're
the
planning
commission,
we
don't
yeah.
N
I
guess
we
do
make
up
some
of
the
rules,
but
it's
a
really
difficult
position
to
be
in,
and
I
hope
that
the
owner
of
the
building
actually
follows
through
and
allows
folks
to
be
able
to
have
enough
time
to
find
some
place
to
live
and
whatever
financial
supports.
I
don't
re.
I
don't
recall
what
the
term
was
used,
but
can
you
hear
me.
N
I'm
sorry
I'm
getting
some
echoing.
I
hope
that
they
they
follow
through
with
that,
and
I
understand
that
there's
no
way
for
us
to
actually
have
any
oversight
of
that
either
as
well
as
they
mentioned
something
about
damage
deposits
being
given
to
the
residents
at
a
fairly
quickly
time.
C
All
right,
commissioners,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
table
to
continue
this
item
to
the
february
22nd
meeting
or
any
other
any
other
discussion
on
the
motion.
I
If
not,
please
call
the.
G
C
All
right
that
motion
fails
and
I'll
just
say
you
know
before
we
see
if
we
have
another
motion,
you
know
I
I
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
what
my
fellow
commissioners
have
said.
You
know.
I
think
this
is
a
really
this
is.
This
is
a
really
difficult
situation
right.
This
is
sort
of
from
a
human
standpoint,
not
not
a
place.
Anybody
wants
to
be
making
a
decision.
C
I
think
that
that
on
one
hand,
it
can
seem
very
technocratic
for
the
planning
commission
to
make
a
decision
kind
of
based
on
our
authority,
and
you
know,
sort
of
purely
based
on
the
findings
and
not
look
for
loopholes.
And
you
know
we
do-
and
I
certainly
have
had
a
lot
of
I'm
trying
to
be
more
expansive
in
reading
of
those
findings
but
at
times,
but
I
think
you
know
we're
also
a
policy
making
body
and
we
influence
policy.
C
And
if
we
want
to
have
the
policies
that
we
write
and
suggest
be
implemented,
and
we
want
to
have
them
carried
out
to
to
the
the
extent
of
their
intent.
Then
we
need
to
implement
the
existing
costs.
Right
I
mean
if
we
we
either
have
a
city
in
a
system
that
is
able
to
implement
policies
and
laws
or
not.
And
if,
if
they're
not
working
right,
then
we
need
to
change
them
and-
and
we
have
a
some
some
corner
of
the
ability
to
do
that.
C
And
so
I
you
know,
I
think
we've
heard
a
lot
about
what
staff
is
already
working
on,
both
in
terms
of
code
development
and
what
your
trader
is
working
on,
and
here
as
well
as
city
council,
member
and
and
of
course,
we
hope
that,
when
those
better
policies
are
put
in
place
that
they
are
enforcement
implemented,
and
that's
a
little
bit
of
reflection
on
on
this
difficult
decision,
so
that
motion
failed.
We
still
have
a
conditional
use
permit
application
on
the
table.
C
Pardon
my
children
in
the
background
we
have
conditional
use
permit
on
the
table.
Anybody
have
a
motion.
C
All
right,
very
good:
okay,
we
got
all
right
okay,
so
we've
got
a
motion
to
approve
conditional
use
permit
with
one
state
of
conditioning
commissioner
olsen.
P
C
Motion
and
a
second
any
further
discussion.
K
Sorry
everyone-
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
I
think,
for
the
most
part,
the
findings
sent
to
indicate
this
is
something
that
we
would
allow
in
this
neighborhood.
It
seems
totally
we
allowed
anywhere
as
it's
allowed
in
any
zoning
designation
as
we
talked
about
with
staff
earlier,
I
do
want
to
say
I'll,
be
voting
against
approval.
However,
just
based
on
finding
number
five
that
the
conditional
use
is
consistent
with
the
applicable
policies.
Excuse
me
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan
I
do
want
to
say.
K
I
had
a
little
bit
of
a
issue
with
saying
that
it
applies
to
goal
three
that
affordable
and
accessible
housing
in
2040
all
minneapolis
presidents
residents
will
be
able
to
afford
an
excess
of
quality
housing
throughout
the
city.
K
You
know,
as
we
all
know,
we
have
to
take
what's
relevant
to
the
required
findings,
but
I
think
that
most
of
what
they
said
in
my
mind
spoke
to
this
one
specific
condition
which
is
number
five,
and
I
do
think
it's
a
little
unfortunate
that
the
applicant
in
in
the
search
for
finding
a
facility-
that's
perfect,
for
their
needs.
K
It's
going
to
be
creating
a
just,
pushing
the
thing
down
the
road
and
we
just
are
going
to
create
a
whole
new
need,
but
but
of
people
who've
put
down
roots
in
a
community
and
are
are
part
of
a
larger
social
infrastructure
and
relying
on
one
another.
So
I
I
can't
support
it.
K
I
do
want
to
say
that,
as
we
move
forward,
regardless
of
how
this
vote
goes
and
we
think
about
you
know
how
we
do
congregate
living
and
these
kind
of
facilities,
we
can't
just
keep
looking
at
the
space
and
requirement
as
being
the
answer.
K
We
have
to
look
at
how
all
these
different
things
where
they're
located
and
you
should
see
a
map
in
the
city,
because
I'm
gonna
guess
that
there
are
large
areas
of
the
city
that
these
are
not
totally
clustered
together
in
so
before
we
decide
to
concentrate
people
on
one
area.
We
need
to
look
at
why
we
have
policies
like
that
in
the
first
place,
otherwise,
we're
just
gonna
constantly
be
paying
catch
up
with
the
intent
behind
the
policy,
instead
of
just
actually
making
meaningful
meaningful
change.
K
I
also
think
we
need
to
stop
looking
at
just
what's
in
front
of
us
and
start
looking
beyond
that
to
what's
not
in
front
of
us
in
order
to
cause
to
actually
solve
things.
So
I
just
want
to
say.
I
think
that
the
displacement
of
the
residents
is
counter
to
the
goals
of
the
comp
plan.
K
When
we
talked
about
affordable
housing,
we
can't
just
say
because
the
one
moving
in
is
affordable,
that
it's
okay
to
displace
people
that
are
living
in
affordable
housing
and
in
fact
we
talked
about
complete
communities
and
neighborhoods
and
neighborhood
stability,
and
this
seems
to
be
counter
to
that.
So
I
just
want
to
say
that
just
based
on
required
finding
number
five
I'll
be
voting
against
that.
However,
I
do
acknowledge
that
the
other
findings
are
met
and
this
it's
not
to
say
that
this
facility
does
not
belong
in
the
community.
M
Just
quickly
to
respond
to
commissioner
luke
keep
here
respectfully,
I
guess
I
want
to
point
out,
perhaps
for
everybody
else's
benefit,
that
if
we
deny
this
conditional
use
permit-
and
that
means
that
perhaps
this
organization
doesn't
go
in
and
reform
this
property
and
do
what
they
want.
It
doesn't
change
the
fact
that
the
seller
of
the
property
can
still
sell
it
to
whomever
they
want,
and
you
know
we
should
keep
in
mind.
M
I
have
no
idea
whether
this
property
is
for
sale,
otherwise
or
not,
but
stopping
this
organization
from
doing
what
it
wants
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
somebody
else
isn't
going
to
come
along,
who
doesn't
need
a
conditional
permit,
conditional
use
permit
for
anything,
and
we
wouldn't
even
know
about
it.
The
building
would
just
be
sold
and
they
could
do
whatever
they
want
with
it.
So
respectfully.
M
I
just
want
to
respond
and
say
that
what
you
know
denial
of
this
for
those
who
are
concerned
in
particular
about
that
goal
of
the
comprehensive
comprehensive
plan
could
end
up
in
an
even
you
know,
quote
unquote,
worse
situation.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Squeazy
any
further
comments.
C
Lots
of
questions
all
right.
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
the
conditional
use
permit
with
the
one
stated
condition
clerk.
Please
call
the
ball.
F
I
D
D
C
Abstain
all
right
that
motion
fails.
Commissioners
with
somebody
else
like
to
make
a
motion.
C
AI
E
C
All
right,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
just
to
build
out
the
or
articulate
the
rationale
here,
which
is
that
the
conditional
use
permit
does
not
beat
required
finding
number
five
and
that
the
conditioning
department
is
not
consistent
with
the
applicable
policies
and
comprehensive
plan,
because
it
does
not
meet
in
particular,
core
goals
around
affordable
housing,
including
goal
number
three
that
all
minneapolis
residents
will
be
able
to
afford
and
access
quality
housing
throughout
the
city
referencing.
C
C
All
right,
all
right,
we'll
we'll
call
it
commissioner
smiley.
E
I
think
commissioner
rockwell
president
well,
you
mentioned,
seemed
adequate
to
me
yeah.
What
do
you
see
a
set
seems
adequate
to
me.
I
would
also
add
that
for
emphasis
I
would
say
the
residents
of
this
current
build.
The
building
at
the
moment
are
current
residents
of
the
city
of
minneapolis,
whereas
I
can't
say
that
for
sure
for
the
future,
so
I
think
that's
another
point
to
support
support
that
I.
C
Think,
okay,
so
you're
looking
at
the
language
in
goal,
3,
which
is
all
minneapolis
residents,
and
you
are
articulating
that
that
includes
those
in
the
subject-
property
right
now
and
may
or
may
not
include
those
in
the
other
may
not
may
or
may
not
include
those
coming
in
under
the
nucleus
at
this
time.
Okay,
commissioner,.
P
I'm
just
wondering-
maybe
I
should
know
this,
but
if,
if
we
were
to
deny
this
application,
would
they
can
they
come
back
with
the
exact
same
application
to
us,
even
though
we've
denied
it
once
can.
P
C
They
could,
of
course,
appeal
to
the
city
council
right.
P
C
All
righty
very
good.
We
have
a
motion
and
seconds
to
deny
the
conditional
use
permit
and
on
the
basis
of
required,
finding
number
five
consistency
with
comprehensive
plan
for
the
rationale
statement.
AI
Yeah,
I
did
have
just
one
more
comment
because
I
mean
I'm
happy.
Commissioner.
Smiley
also
supports
the
motion
to
deny,
but
I
I
don't
like
the
added
reason
that
she
articulated
just
because
I
feel
like
we
should
also
seek
affordability
for
people
who,
who
move
here
and
to
me
it
kind
of
has
like
I
don't
know.
AI
C
AI
C
Is
as
strong
as
possible
for
the
for
the
decision,
so
I
I
just
want
to
remind
folks
of
that,
as
we
have
this
discussion,
commissioner
movement
in
the
chat.
All
right,
commissioner,
is
mike.
E
Yeah
I
I
wanna
thank
commissioner
meyer
for
mentioning
that
it
certainly
was
not
my
intent
to
to
infer
that.
That
is
the
case.
However,
I
would
want
to
say
that
that
was
my.
My
intent
was
to
say
that
part
of
the
goal
should
not
happen
at
the
expense
of
someone
else
that
the
same
goal
applies
to
so,
but
but
thank
you
for
the
clarification.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner,
smiley
commissioner
luke
olympia.
K
Yeah
just
to
clarify
that
a
little
bit
for
commissioner
meyer,
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
be
mindful
that
we
are
when
that's
brought
up.
It's
an
anti-displacement
policy
really
when
we
talk
about
giving
people
housing
choices.
K
If
people
want
to
stay,
that
should
be
a
choice
if
they
want
to
move,
they
should
also
have
that
choice.
But
I
think
commissioner
smiley's
point
in
highlighting
the
fact
that
it
does
say
in
the
verbiage
minneapolis
residents
that
it's
it's
giving
people
who
are
in
a
community
and
part
of
the
community
a
chance
to
stay
in
their
community,
and
I
think
that
that's
a
really
strong
backbone
of
equitable
housing
policy.
C
All
right,
commissioner,
mike.
AI
Yeah-
and
I
I
I
completely
agree
with
the
anti-displacement
position-
just
don't
want
it
to
have
the
the
effect
of
saying
that
people
in
minneapolis
matter
more
than
people
who
may
want
to
move
here.
But
that
said,
I
am
I'm
happy
with
the
motion
and
the
findings.
As
stated
all.
C
Right
very
good.
Any
further
comment
on
this
question.
All
right
see
none
other.
Please
call
the
roll.
G
G
C
AK
C
That
motion
carries
and
conditional
use
permit
is
denied,
and
that
concludes
our
business
with
whatever
item
this
is
item
number
eight.
Next
up
is
item
number
14,
which
is
andrew,
is
staff.
112
lake
street,
east
and
ward
10.
andrew
saw
you.
AL
Good
evening,
president
rockwell
and
commissioners
before
you
today
are
several
applications
for
a
new
four-story
mixed
use.
Project
at
112
east
lake
street.
This
proposed
building
would
contain
13
units
and
approximately
1
600
square
feet
of
retail
space.
The
subject
property
is
currently
vacant
and
was
previously
occupied
by
a
single-story
commercial
building,
which
was
destroyed
by
arson
in
the
unrest
this
past
may.
AL
This
project
was
continued
from
the
november
16th
planning
commission
meeting,
where
the
commission
encouraged
the
applicant
to
work
with
the
neighborhood
organization
to
revise
the
project.
Since
the
november
16th
hearing,
the
applicant
has
made
some
fairly
significant
revisions
which
I'll
go
through
here.
AL
In
a
moment,
the
applicant
is
seeking
all
of
the
same
applications
that
they
were
on
november
16th
variances,
to
increase
maximum
floor
area
ratio
and
to
decrease,
drive
aisle
width
as
well
as
site,
plane
review,
and
they
are
now
seeking
three
new
variances
to
the
sign
code
that
they
were
not
seeking
when
this
application
was
before
you
previously,
we've
received
three
comment:
letters
on
the
revised
plans.
AL
Since
the
november
16th
hearing,
one
of
those
was
attached
to
the
published
published
report
and
two
of
them
you
should
have
received
today,
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
in
each
of
these
slides
here,
the
revised
proposal
is
shown
above
and
the
previous
proposal
from
november
16th
is
shown
below
and
we'll
walk
through
the
changes,
the
big
changes
that
were
made
since
you
saw
this
in
november.
AL
One
of
the
most
significant
changes
here
that
was
requested
by
the
commission
in
the
neighborhood,
which
is
visible
here,
was
adding
ground
floor
windows
on
the
east.
Elevation.
AL
Also
visible
in
this
photo
is
a
proposed
internally
illuminated
wall
sign,
which
was
requested
by
the
neighborhood
and
would
function
as
district
signage,
rather
than
advertisement
for
a
specific
business
at
the
property.
This
sign
requires
variances,
to
allow
signage
on
a
non-primary
building
wall,
to
increase
maximum
sign
height
and
to
increase
the
maximum
size
of
an
individual
wall.
Sign
in
this
district
also
visible
here
are
new,
raised
planters
adjacent
to
the
sidewalk
again
added
in
response
to
some
feedback
from
the
neighborhood
and
planning
commission
in
november
next
slide.
AL
Please,
in
this
view,
you
can
again
see
the
additional
window
area
that
was
added
on
the
east
elevation,
the
applicant
also
increased
window
area
and
added
balconies
to
the
north
elevation.
Again,
those
balconies
were
an
item
that
was
discussed
with
the
neighborhood
organization
and
the
planning
commission
in
november
next
slide.
Please,
the
applicant
has
significantly
reworked
the
exterior
materials.
Since
you
last
saw
this
the
biggest
change
there
is
the
elimination,
well
not
complete,
elimination,
but
very
significant
reduction
in
the
amount
of
brick
utilized
on
the
project
on
the
east
elevation.
AL
There
is
a
new
request
for
alternative
compliance.
That's
needed
to
allow
more
than
30
percent
of
the
elevation
to
consist
of
fiber
cement
panels.
Less
than
5
8
of
an
inch
thick
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
this
request,
as
described
in
the
staff
report
and
our
response.
There
is
very
similar
to
what
we
had
previously
for
the
blank
wall.
Being
the
the
you
know,
future
expected
redevelopment
of
the
adjacent
property
to
the
west,
as
well
as
the
the
mural
mitigating
that
blank
wall
in
the
interim
next
slide.
AL
Please
here's
a
close-up
of
the
proposed
configuration
at
the
rear
of
the
property,
the
open
space
not
occupied
by
the
building.
The
current
proposal
is
on
the
left
and
what
you
saw
in
november
is
on
the
right.
The
applicant
chose
to
relocate
the
trash
and
recycling
from
an
exterior
enclosure
to
a
partially
enclosed
trash
room
in
the
building.
AL
The
revised
proposal
has
reworked
a
lot
of
the
landscaped
area,
but
remains
in
compliance
with
the
site
plan
review,
landscaping.
Standards
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
five
variance
applications
and
site
plan
review,
subject
to
the
basic
conditions
that
are
listed
in
the
staff
report
and
I'm
happy
to
address
any
questions.
Thank
you.
C
All
righty
seeing
none.
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
ask
the
applicant
to
introduce
themselves
and
add
anything
else
that
they
find
relevant.
C
C
A
C
Do
you
want
to
add
anything
else
to
andrew's
presentation
or
or
is
that
all
good?
I
have
nothing
else
to
add
very
good.
All
right,
we
will
move
into
our
public
testimony
queue
our
first
three
testifiers.
We
have
five
on
the
list
there
may
be
more
after
that
are
kaylee
brown
quinn,
hudson
and
george
maui
kaylee
brown
is
first,
please
unmute
yourself
hit
star
six.
If
you
name
an
address
for
the
record,
go
ahead.
AM
Hello,
this
is
kaylee
brown,
I'm
the
executive
director
for
the
whittier
alliance,
neighborhood
organization,
we're
located
at
10
east
25th
street
in
ward
10.,
as
andrew
noted.
Thank
you.
There's
a
letter
of
support
for
the
project
included
in
your
packets
from
our
organization,
endorsed
by
both
the
housing
issues
committee
and
our
board
of
directors.
So
I'll
just
say
a
few
very
brief
words
today.
AM
I
wanted
to
thank
this
body
for
the
opportunity
provided
in
november
for
the
organization
to
work
with
the
applicant
and
come
back
to
you
today
with
a
stronger,
more
collaborative
project.
We
did
definitely
did
not
take
that
for
granted,
and
I
believe
that
we
took
full
advantage
of
the
additional
time.
I
also
wanted
to
thank
mr
tindall
and
mr
barrowi
for
working
with
us
in
good
faith
and
perhaps
even
a
little
enthusiasm
at
times,
which
we
very
much
appreciate.
AM
We
recognize
that
we
cannot
reasonably
address
all
neighborhood
wants
and
needs
in
one
development,
particularly
one
of
this
relatively
small
size,
but
we
feel
that
the
changes
that
have
been
made
on
this
project
reflect
a
significant
step
in
the
direction
we
had
hoped
to
go.
So
we
asked
today
that
you
support
the
staff
recommendation
to
approve
all
required
variances
and
the
site
plan
review
for
this
project
at
112
east,
like
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
again
today,.
C
Very
good,
thank
you
very
much.
Next
up
is
quinn,
hudson,
followed
by
george
bush
maui
and
then
jacob
steen
quinn.
Hudson.
If
you
are
on
the
line,
please
press
star
six
numbers
when
hudson
may
not
be
on
the
line
says
our
idea.
A
Hello,
this
is
quinn,
hudson,
I'm
on
the
line,
and
but
I
would
actually
just
be
here
in
case.
There
are
architectural
questions
that
represent
the
adjacent
neighbor
business
michael
products,
but
jacob
steen,
who
is
on
the
line,
is
actually
the
ones
planning
to
address
the
planning
commissions.
C
All
right
very
good.
Well,
he
is
up
in
a
couple
folks.
So
thank
you.
Clinton
and
this
team
wants
to
loop.
You
in
great
next
up
is
george
rush
maui,
followed
by
jacob
steen,
then
peter
waldow,
george
rashford.
If
you're
on
the
line,
please
unmute
star,
sticks,
introduce
yourself
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
go
ahead.
AK
Hello,
everyone
is,
this:
is
george
rich
marie
I'm
at
2601
garfield
app
in
minneapolis
near
the
site,
and
thanks
for
taking
the
time
to
listen
to
us
again,
and
thank
you
for
recommending
that
the
owner
and
applicant
come
back
and
talk
with
whittier
alliance
and
discuss
this
project
within
our
community,
and
we
are
very
excited
about
this
opportunity
and
to
accept
this
project
and
listen
to
staff
decisions
and
improve
this
project.
Because,
after
working
with
us
in
the
community,
the
project
now
has
many
great
opportunities.
AK
The
with
working
with
the
community.
They
we
provided
outdoor
balconies
that
would
help
enhance
experiential
quality
of
the
users
within
the
space
provided
outdoor
space
in
the
back
back
area
that
could
be
used
by
retail.
AK
Tenants
on
the
ground
level
could
also
be
used
for
housing
as
an
outdoor
living
area,
and
it
is
great
to
work
with
the
designer
and
with
the
owner
of
the
property
to
create
planters
that
will
help
separate
the
public
zone
and
the
private
zone,
creating
more
of
a
sense
of
space
between
pedestrians
and
vehicular
access
in
the
back.
AK
It
also
creates
a
more
engaging
street
level
with
the
new
transit
hub
in
lake
street,
allowing
for
that
east
glazing
and
the
view
into
the
new
transit
hub
going
under
the
bridge,
and
it
also
provides
a
great
branding
and
placemaking
opportunity
for
our
neighborhood
by
creating
attractive
signage.
That
would
help
people
know
what
what
this
neighborhood
is
about
and
also
could
be
seen
from
the
freeway.
AK
As
a
reminder,
as
I
presented
in
my
previous
presentation
and
adding
a
mural
on
the
back,
stairwell
also
helps
enhance
that
experience
and
give
them
permanent
space
for
our
artistic
quality
and
for
artists
to
display
what
our
neighborhood
has
to
offer
and
that
space
will
won't
be
built
on,
since
it's
not
on
the
west
facade
it's
on
the
north
facade,
and
so,
if
you're,
if
there
is
a
new
development
next
door,
it
won't
cover
up
the
whole
mural
for
temporary
purposes.
AK
The
mural
would
look
great
on
that
blank
wall,
so
we
really
enjoyed
working
with
the
designer
also
to
simplify
the
design
as
a
community
to
allow
for
the
form
to
speak
for
itself
and
allowing
for
the
branding
and
the
placemaking
of
the
streetscape.
Allow
for
that
to
enhance
the
the
the
quality
of
the
neighborhood.
We
also
believe
this
is
a
a
great
first
precedent,
building
for
our
neighborhood
speaking
after
the
unrest
and
for
the
future
development
of
the
kmart
site.
AK
So
we
believe
that
this
is
a
great
renewal
for
our
neighborhood
and
I'm
very
excited
to
say
that
we
are
accepting
this
project
and
we
look
forward
to
you
listening
to
staff
recommendation
and
approving
this
project,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
giving
us
the
time
and
to
work
with
the
applicants
and
the
owner,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
owner
and
the
architect
for
working
with
whittier
alliance
and
the
entire
community
to
come
up
to
a
final,
great
solution
that
ultimately
helps
retain
tenants,
housing,
tenants
and
retail
tenants
for
the
clients
and
also
is
a
better
for
our
community.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Next
up
is
jacob
steen,
followed
by
peter
waldo,
jacob
steen.
If
you're
on
the
line,
please
press
star
six
to
unmute,
get
your
name
and
address
for
the.
AN
All
right,
president
rockwell,
can
you
hear
me?
I
mean
technical
difficulties
here
all
right.
Thank
you.
Yes,
president
rockwell
commissioners,
jacob
steen
with
larkin
hoffman
attorneys.
My
address
is
8300
norman
center
drive.
I
represent
national
properties,
one
llc
and
they
are
the
owner
of
the
property
immediately
to
the
north
of
this
project.
AN
AN
Niko
is
you
are
probably
familiar
with.
Is
an
industrial
building
located
on
the
north?
Probably
four
fifths
of
this
block-
and
it
is
a
very
successful
industrial
plating
facility
that
has
been
here
for
more
than
35
years,
has
operates
three
shifts
and
supports
more
than
100
living
wage
wage
jobs,
and
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
alley
here.
AN
I
also
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
both
during
construction
and
after
construction,
and
I
understand
that
the
right-of-way
is
public,
works's
purview
and
not
entirely
the
purview
of
the
planning
commission.
But
I
do
want
to
put
the
applicant
on
notice
of
our
concerns
and
put
this
on
the
record
as
proposed.
AN
And
that's
because
again,
there
are
no
alternative
access
routes
and,
of
course
this
will
be
unacceptable
to
niko.
So
we
we
have
reached
out
to
public
works,
we're
continuing
to
work
with
public
works,
but
we
also
think
it
is
important
to
consider
this
in
making
your
decision
with
respect
to
how
this
site
will
function
after
the
project
is
constructed.
We
do
have
some
concerns
as
well,
and
some
of
those
are
related
to
the
new
design,
as
it's
proposed.
AN
This
site
will
include
insufficient
snow
storage,
another
lack
of
loading
area,
very
limited
maneuvering
for
parking
spaces
on
site
and
the
newly
relocated
trash
enclosure
appears
to
be
operated
entirely
within
the
alleyway
for
maneuvering
and
again,
that's
very
concerning,
because
even
the
momentary
closure
of
the
alley
will
be
disruptive
along
the
north
side
of
the
property.
There
currently
aren't
parking
spaces
at
least
parking
spaces
that
maneuver
within
the
alley,
and
that's
one
of
our
major
concerns.
AN
The
other
issue
I
want
to
raise
is
a
lack
of
loading,
and
this
is
a
13
unit,
building
with
a
commercial
tenant
and
there's
no
designated
loading
on
site,
and
these
tenants
will
be
getting
food
deliveries.
Ups
fedex
all
sorts
of
deliveries,
they're
going
to
be
moving
in
moving
out
and
without
a
designated
loading
area.
You
have
serious
concerns
about
the
risk
to
niko's
productivity,
so
I
would
ask
that
the
planning
commission
taken
to
consider
these
impacts
for
the
applicant
for
the
future
tenants
at
a
minimum.
AN
I
think
there
could
be
a
reasonable
conditions
that
are
attached
to
this
project
that
would
mitigate
some
of
these,
including
a
required
loading
space,
a
policy
for
removing
illegally
parked
vehicles
that
project
into
the
alley
and
summer
snow
removal
policy.
So
with
that,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
and
I
do
also
have
quinn
hudson,
as
he
mentioned,
he's
our
architect,
and
he
can
answer
questions
about
a
report
and
peter
waldo
from
niko
is
available
to
answer
questions.
C
Very
good,
thank
you.
Peter
waldow
is
next
on
the
on
the
list
here,
peter
waldo.
Do
you
want
to
add
anything
further
or
not.
C
All
right,
well
peter
waldows,
trying
to
from
you
is
there
anybody
else
on
the
line
wishing
to
testify.
I
B
Hi,
can
you
hear
me.
I
B
I
don't
want
to
belabor
any
of
the
points
that
were
already
made,
but
the
rest
of
the
folks
who
live
in
the
neighborhood
just
wanted
to
add
another
voice
of
support
and
note
that
this
type
of
collaboration
between
property,
owner,
architect
and
and
our
beloved
neighborhood
is
one
that
we
don't
see
much
and
we
sincerely
appreciate
the
consideration,
redesign
and
reworking
of
the
facility
to
better
fit
with
the
neighborhood
and
what
we
hope
to
sort
of
rise
from
the
action
so
to
speak.
B
So
I
support
the
project
and
I
support
you
know
everything
that
the
architect
and
the
developers
need
in
this
situation
to
work
with
the
neighborhood
so
closely
appreciate
everybody's
time,
and
thank
you
thank.
C
You
very
much
is
there
anybody
else
on
the
line.
I
thought
I
heard
somebody
else
trying
to
speak
up
too.
I
L
This
is
bridget
higgins,
I'm
at
26,
26,
2nd
avenue
south
in
the
whittier
neighborhood,
also
with
swedia
alliance,
and
I
would
like
to
second
what
many
of
my
neighbors
have
shared
tonight
and
just
thank
both
the
property
owner
and
city
staff
for
facilitating
a
process
that
I
think
can
be
really
precedent
studying
as
far
as
property
owners,
cooperation
with
community
goals-
and
I
was
happy
to
be
a
part
of
that
process
and
I
look
forward
to
more
new
neighbors.
C
All
right
hearing,
no
one,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing.
Commissioners,
we
have
six
applications
before
us.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
items
for
discussion,
or
would
someone
like
to
start
us
off
with
a
motion.
C
C
E
AJ
Hi
yeah,
I
want
to
just
commend
the
developer
for
really
taking
what
we
talked
to
him
about
in
november
to
heart
and
really
working
with
the
neighborhood
organization.
I
think
this
is
really
a
model
of
the
type
of
planning
that
I
love
to
see
and
to
see
the
collaboration
between
you
guys.
I
think
this
proposal
got
stronger.
I
think
it's
more
interesting.
It
actually
has
like
a
dynamic
look
to
it.
AJ
If
you
were
able
to
accomplish
the
signage
that
you
want
for
your
neighborhood
in
a
private
development
which
is
kind
of
getting
to
blend
two
things
together
with
just
working
together.
So
I
I
commend
you
all
for
really
taking
taking
this.
I
know
it
was
challenging
time.
It
was
through
the
holidays,
lots
going
on
and
you
all
really
sitting
down
and
working
together,
I'm
really
impressed
and
I'm
happy
to
to
approve
these.
Thank
you.
C
I
will
just
very
briefly
agree
with
commissioner
marwa.
I
think
this
is
particular
when
we
see
the
side
by
side
and,
as
we
talked
about
last
time,
this
critical
gateway
to
a
lot
of
different
parts
of
the
city
and
a
key
piece
of
rebuilding
from
so
this
summer
and
the
panama
is
great
all
right.
Seeing
no
other
comments,
our
discussion,
quick,
please
call.
D
C
That
motion
carries,
and
that
concludes
our
business
with
item.
14.
concludes
our
discussion
agenda
for
the
evening
activity.
Are
there
any
staff
updates.
J
Yes,
staff
updates,
but
also
some
business
that
we
would
have
normally
taken
care
of
at
committee
of
the
whole
this
week,
but
it
was
cancelled
because
we
didn't
have
agenda
items.
J
We
are
going
to
have
a
vacant
president
position
and
vice
president
position
with
the
departure
of
commissioners,
rockwell
and
lupkeeper,
and
with
that
we
will
need
to
establish
a
nominating
committee
with
this
being
our
first
meeting
in
january,
so
that
we
can
have
a
vote
taken
and
new
officers
in
place
for
our
first
meeting
in
february.
C
Very
good:
well,
I
will
assign
a
nominating
committee
and,
as
has
been
a
case
in
the
past,
the
nominations
nominated
committee
may
nominate
members
on
the
on
the
committee
so
feel
free
to
stop
nominate.
Is
there
anybody
wishing
to
serve
on
the
nominated
committee?
Commissioner
lucky
peer?
Is
volunteering
in
the
chat
to
serve
on
the
nominating
committee?
Is
that
correct
commissioner
league
prepared
just
for
the
oral
record.
K
Yes,
I
will
help
serve
on
the
committee
if
no
one
else
wants
to
which
seems
to
historically
be
the
case.
C
To
on
the
nominated
committee
or
willing
to
serve
on
the
nominating
committee,
maybe
I
should
use
the
work
willing.
C
Very
good
commissioner
smiley
and
commissioner
and
I
see
commissioner,
smiling
as
well,
so
I
think
if
we
have
commissioner
olson.
Thank
you,
commissioner
smiley
and
commissioner
luke
I'll
sign
those
three
at
the
nominating
committee
kimberly.
If
you
could,
there
has
always
been
a
little
bit
of
confusion
about
who
is
eligible
to
serve
in
the
leadership
positions
on
the
planning
commission.
I
know
that
commissioner
schroeder
cannot
besides,
commissioner
schroeder
for
death.
C
If
commissioner
craney
and
commissioner
meyer
are
eligible
as
elected
officials,
but
if
we
could
make
sure
that
we
know
that,
I
don't
know
if
you
know
that
offhand.
J
You
know
I
have
the
bylaws
open
in
front
of
me,
so
I
don't
want
to
read
them
verbatim
to
you,
but
I'm
not
seeing
anything
jump
out
at
me.
That
would
lead
me
to
believe
that
park
board
school
board
or
hennepin
county
representatives
cannot
serve
in
those
officer
roles.
C
Great,
so
great,
so
anybody
except
commissioner,
is
eligible
for
the
officer
rules,
so
I
will
let
the
nominating
committee
handle
collecting
nominations.
C
I
can
provide
a
bit
of
assistance
on
that
as
well,
and
and
there
we
go,
is
there
any
other?
Are
there
any
other
staff
updates
or
permission
business.
J
I
was
just
going
to
provide
a
really
quick
update
on
the
process
for
bringing
forward
recommendations
for
new
appointees
to
the
commission,
so
the
public
hearing
on
our
three
recommended
appointees
is
on
it's
next
week,
tuesday,
the
19th
at
the
biz
committee
of
the
city
council
at
1
30..
J
So
you
can
go
to
limbs
to
see
all
the
details,
but
the
three
people
who
are
being
brought
forward
as
recommendations
by
the
mayor
for
his
appointees
are
keith
ford,
chloe,
mcguire,
briggle
and
bill
baxley,
and
that
public
hearing
again
will
be
at
the
committee
followed
by
the
fall
council,
and
they
would
have
some
onboarding
and
be
ready
to
go
for
our
first
meeting
in
february
and
we
will
send
our
departing
commissioners
off
at
our
next
meeting
with
a
little
bit
more
fanfare
and
resolutions.
J
To
thank
you
for
your
service.
We
also
have
commissioner
olsen,
as
the
mayor's
rep
is
being
reappointed
so
to
fill
the
fourth
spot,
the
fourth
vacancy-
and
that
is
all
right.
K
Yeah,
it
was
kind
of
a
comment
question
for
kimberly,
so
just
I
guess
I
comment
to
the
commissioners
to
forward
if
they
would
like
to
be
nominated
for
something
to
one
of
us
on
the
nominating
committee,
but
just
wanted
to
ask
kimberly
if
it
is
it
okay
for
us
to
send
email
to
the
remaining
commissioners
who
are
not
on
the
committee,
although
copying
the
committee,
I
don't
want
to
be
in
violation
of
open
meeting
laws
just
by
sending
an
email
saying:
hey
is
anyone
interested
so
can
I
can.
J
Yes,
please
do
it
that
way:
don't
engage
in
any
official
commission
business
over
email
quorum
of
commissioners.
But
yes,
thank
you,
okay,
so
let
us
know.
K
C
And
I
will
say
it
is
funny
to
not
have
our
time
to
gather
informally
after
our
meetings
and
be
constrained
by
open
meeting
law.
So
anyway.
I
suppose
this
serves
as
a
announcement
on
the
record
of
not
seeking
not
seeking
reappointment.
C
I
feel
awkward
about,
but
I
have
I
have
loved
being
on
this
commission
with
with
all
of.
I
C
And-
and
it's
just
I'm
now
editing
of
an
organization,
I'm
teaching
at
the
university
and
I
have
a
family
and
I
can't
do
it
so.
I
C
Recommend
the
leadership
positions
on
the
commission
too,
to
anyone
at
all
with
that
can.
J
I
say
one
more
thing
that
I
don't
want
to
be
that
guy,
but
I
forgot
this
january
does
mark
100
years
of
the
city
of
minneapolis
planning
commission,
so
it
was
established
not
100
years.
I'm
reading
50
50.
C
J
Or
is
it
100?
I've
been
on
this
meeting
way
too
long
anyway,
we're
working
on
some
letterhead
and
some
seals
and
some
swag
and
potentially
some
events.
It's
either
been
around
for
50
or
100
years.
It
is
100
years.
Sam's.
Look
of
surprise
made
me
think
I
was
wrong
and
it
is
100
years.
Thank
you,
casey
carl.
I
need
to
just
log
off
this
meeting,
but
we
are
gonna.
Maybe
have
some
events
this
year,
if
cobit.
J
And
yes,
we
will
hopefully
be
adding
something
either
to
the
agenda
or
to
some
templates
or
something
to
commemorate
the
event.
So
that
is.
C
All
I
have
very
good
well
fantastic.
We
can
all
claim
credit
for
all
hundred
years.
All
right,
commissioners,
it's
been
a
long
meeting,
good
debate.
Thank
you.
All
meetings.