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A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
maria.
That
was
a
very
lawyerly
thing
for
you
to
do
yeah.
I
I
am
on
board
with
us
moving
forward,
especially
because
maria
was
supposed
to
be
in
the
last
one
as
well,
and
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
her
time
as
well,
because
she's,
my
friend
and
she'll
kick
my
butt.
If
I
waste
too
much
of
her
time.
A
Absolutely
absolutely
well,
so
I
just
know
the
one
I
know
maria
and
just
so
that
you
all
know
I
kind
of
double
booked.
I
am
at
just
a
block
away
from
the
george
floyd
memorial
and
gonna
be
doing
I'm
meeting.
A
Great,
I
will
I'll
come
find
you
all.
We've
got
all
of
our
crazies,
all
five
of
us,
but
so
maria
is
kindly
giving
her
time.
A
Maria
has
helped
to
found
just
eats,
which
is
I'm
gonna,
let
her
explain
but
has
to
do
with
housing,
covenants
and
working
with
various
municipalities
and
in
the
different
cities
in
the
twin
cities,
suburbs,
and
because
of
things
that
we
have
talked
about,
and
I
thought
this
was
a
great
opportunity
to
get
an
introduction
to
the
work
that
she's
doing
how
they're
currently
partnering
with
the
city
and
then
also
maybe
how
we,
as
the
civil
rights
commission,
could
better
get
the
word
out
and
partner
with
her.
A
B
Yeah,
that's
a
great
introduction
and
I
asked
amy
to
join
me
because
amy
works
with
the
minneapolis
city
attorney's
office
and
amy
is
the
one
who
helped
get
minneapolis
on
board
with
just
deeds.
So
she
can
talk
more
specifically
about
the
city
of
minneapolis's
involvement,
amy,
and
I
also
have
a
little
presentation
that
we
put
together.
B
We
don't
have
to
do
the
whole
presentation
depending
on
how
much
you
all
know
about
this
already,
but
a
lot
of
this
is
really
minneapolis
focus,
because
one
huge
benefit
that
you
all
have
over.
All
of
the
other
participating
cities
is
that
minneapolis
has
hordes
of
data
to
talk
about
what
are
the
problems
and
how
are
we
going
to
solve
them?
B
B
Is
that,
okay
with
everyone,
I
need
to
figure
out
then
how
to
share
my
screen.
D
B
B
Why
is
this
not
advancing
here
we
go
so
just
deeds
is
we're
not
a
non-profit,
we're
not
handling
any
money.
We're
not
really
even
anything
super
formally
organized
we're
a
coalition.
We
are
just
a
bunch
of
people
who
were
like
this
is
ridiculous.
B
We
all
we
need
to
work
together
to
try
to
figure
out
how
we're
how
we're
working
on
systemic
racism
in
housing-
and
you
know
me
being
a
city
employee
that
when
I
think
about
housing
that
bleeds
into
a
lot
of
other
things
in
my
work
but
but
we're
focusing
on
housing,
that's
kind
of
the
entry
point,
so
I'm
the
city
attorney
in
golden
valley
and
I
live
in
golden
valley.
I've
lived
in
you
know
in
minneapolis
and
robinsdale
kind
of
inner
ring
and
core
city.
B
My
whole
life,
I'm
also
on
the
board
of
the
minnesota
association
of
city
attorneys
and
we're
getting
feedback
so
so
last
summer.
Well,
in
late
2019
I
went
to
the
golden
valley,
human
rights
commission
as
a
resident
in
golden
valley
and
told
them
about
a
new
law
to
discharge
racially
restrictive
covenants
and
we'll
get
more
into
the
background
of
racially
restrictive
covenants
in
a
minute.
But
we
decided
with
the
human
rights
commission
that
we
would
start
a
project
where
I
would
just.
B
I
was
like
I'll
just
recruit
some
of
my
attorney
friends
and
we
will
give
free
legal
services
to
residents
of
golden
valley
to
go
through
this
kind
of
short
process
to
discharge
these
covenants-
it's
not
very
hard,
but
it's
it
is
difficult
to
have.
If
you
don't
have
access
to
certain
systems
which
lawyers
have
access
to,
so
we
decided.
B
We
would
do
that
and
as
we'll
talk
more
about
discharging,
the
covenant
doesn't
erase
it
from
the
property
record,
but
it
kind
of
adds
a
statement
to
the
record
about
the
covenant
and
and
rejecting
the
covenant,
and
we
also
realize
the
more
we
talk
to
people
about
this.
B
The
goal
is
to
have
the
discharge
process,
be
an
educational
experience
and
an
engagement
opportunity,
and
that's
why
it's
important
to
do
it
as
a
coalition
to
involve
the
community
to
involve
the
government
and
to
involve
private
companies.
So
that's
what
we're
doing
and
you
can
see
on
the
screen
there.
The
founding
members
are
the
minnesota
association
of
city
attorneys,
minneapolis
area,
realtors,
mapping
prejudice,
which
is
part
of
the
borchert
library
system
at
the
university
of
minnesota
and
they're,
the
ones
who
mapped
all
of
the
covenants
in
hennepin
county.
B
They
went
through
all
of
the
deeds
with
volunteer,
help
and
found
all
of
the
restrictive
covenants
in
hennepin
county
and
gave
us
that
map
and
then
the
city
of
golden
valley
and
a
diner
realty
title
and
right
now
we
have
11
participating
cities.
We
have
a
couple
more
that
are
coming
on
soon
and
mapping
prejudice
is
about
to
publish
their
map
of
ramsey
county
and
so
then
we'll
start
expanding
into
ramsey
county.
We
also
have
members
from
private
industry.
B
We
have
a
whole
arm
of
our
of
our
group
that
is
realtors
and
we've
been.
For
example,
the
department
of
commerce
has
asked
us
to
help
put
together
some
education
classes.
It's
going
to
be
a
required
component
of
realtor
licensing
for
realtors,
to
learn
about
mapping,
prejudice
and
just
deeds,
so
we're
working
on
things
in
a
lot
of
projects
in
a
lot
of
different
industries.
B
I
tend
to
focus
most
of
my
time
on
how
we're
engaging
with
cities
and
with
community
through
cities,
but
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
kind
of
engage
across
industry.
So
here's
just
a
kind
of
a.
I
already
have
kind
of
told
you
all
this.
Just
a
kind
of
a
summary
of
our
mission:
if
you
go
to
our
webpage
justdeeds.org,
you
can
read
all
about
the
mission
and
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
educational
resources.
B
B
Is
we
when
I
was
talking
about
this
really
last
summer,
with
the
city
attorneys
association,
we
came
to
the
conclusion
that
there's
a
lack
of
honest
acknowledgement
about
a
lot
of
systemic
racism,
not
just
in
housing
but
across
all
all
parts
of
government
and
and
private
industry,
and
so
there's
no
fee
for
anyone
to
be
involved
in
justice.
B
There's
no
you're
not
required
to
do
anything
specific,
but
everyone
is
required
to
to
really
be
honest
about
what
is
the
role
that
our
industries
or
our
our
organization
are
playing
in
this
problem
and
have
and
historically
what
have
we
done
and
then
we
have
to
commit
some
resources
to
take
action
so,
like
minneapolis,
has
committed
amy's
time
the
city
attorney's
office
and
they
have
a
team
of
people
in
the
city
attorney's
office,
who
are
volunteering
and
helping
homeowners
individually
discharge
these
covenants-
and
I
hope
that
you
know
in
golden
valley-
we've
been
also
doing
a
lot
of
community
engagement.
B
I
hope
that
other
cities
will
also
do
more
of
that
and
that
you
know
the
the
realtors
that
we
have
and,
as
part
of
our
coalition
will
actually
do
things
differently.
You
know
we're
talking
to
appraiser
appraisers.
Can
we
do
appraisals
differently?
Can
we
talk
about
zoning
laws
differently?
So
it's
pretty
wide
open,
but
you
have
to
be
honest.
You
have
to
really
admit
your
wrongdoing
and
you
have
to
dedicate
some
some
resources
to
do
something
differently
to
actually
take
action.
B
So
here
is
an
example
of
a
discriminatory
covenant.
This
is
actually
the
covenant
on
my
house
in
golden
valley,
which
this
was
kind
of,
so
I
discovered
this
covenant
just
being
a
nerd
and
reading
my
title
documents
when
we
bought
our
house
about
five
years
ago,
and
my
husband
is
mixed
race
latino,
my
kids
are
latino,
so
it
was-
and
I
grew
up
in
this
area
and
I'm
white,
and
so
I
came
to
this
realization
like
holy
crap.
B
My
family
would
not
have
been
able
to
live
here,
even
though
my
dad
grew
up
a
mile
away
like.
So
what
would
that
have
meant
for
my
kids
and
how
all
of
the
different
kinds
of
benefits
that
my
dad
had
and,
by
extension
I
had
growing
up
in
this
area.
B
None
of
that
would
have
been
available
to
my
kids.
It
was
not
available
to
people
so
and
based
solely
on
race,
and
then,
when
I
found
mapping
prejudice,
I
realized
like
okay,
so
this
is.
This
would
have
been
a
terrible
thing
for
my
individual
family
and
for
the
families
that
it
affected
individually.
But
even
more
than
that,
this
was
this
was
a
system
that
was
purposely
put
in
place
and
government
participated
and
realtors
participated
and
developers
participated
and
individual
property
owners
participated.
B
So
it
was
this
really
widespread
thing
that
we
don't
really
talk
about,
and
why
don't
we
talk
about
it
and
if
we
do
start
talking
about
it,
what
kind
of
change
will
it
lead
to?
I
think
about
this,
a
lot
in
terms
of
how
people
approach,
planning
and
zoning,
because
I
hear
a
lot
of
the
things
that
are
highlighted
in
the
research
around
restrictive
covenants.
The
same
kinds
of
themes
appear
when
people
give
either
elected
officials
or
pub
or
the
members
of
the
public
comments
on
proposed
policies
in
that
realm.
B
It's
a
lot
of
the
same
kinds
of
arguments
that
historians,
like
our
friends
at
mapping,
prejudice,
show
those
arguments
are
all
very
much
related
to
this
practice
of
racially
restrictive
covenants,
they're
things
that
were
in
the
fha
underwriting
manual
at
the
time
that
these
practice
practices
were
happening.
A
B
B
C
Email
this
this
thank
you
powerpoint
to
us
yeah.
Absolutely
it's
been.
B
A
long
time,
okay,
yeah,
so
this
covenant
and
again
this
is
just
one
example.
The
language
is
different
in
and
you'll
see
over
time,
the
way
that
people
talked
about
race
and
our
understandings
or
our
made-up
categories
of
race
changed
over
time
and
but
anyway,
this
one
is
kind
of
a
later
one,
and
it
says
no
persons
of
any
race
other.
B
Oh,
I
can't
I
went
out
and
came
back.
Can
you
hear
me
now
there
you
go
yeah
you're
back,
okay,
okay,
I'll
go
back
to
the
beginning,
so
it
says
no
persons
of
any
race
other
than
the
caucasian
race
shall
use
or
occupy
any
building
or
any
lot,
except
that
this
covenant
shall
not
prevent
occupancy
by
domestic
servants
of
a
different
race
domiciled
with
an
owner
or
tenant.
B
I
actually
attended
a
presentation
where
there
were
some.
I
was
in
a
group
from
plymouth
and
waizetta
and
a
woman
who
has
a
house
in
waizetta
shared
that
she
had
a
similar
covenant
on
her
house
and
that
when
she
saw
it,
what
it
reminded
her
of
was
that
in
her
kitchen
she
has
a
back
stairway
that
leads
directly
from
the
kitchen
to
a
third
floor
servants
quarters,
and
so
the
covenant
was
just.
It
was
physically
built
into
her
house
so
yeah.
This
is
a
pretty
common,
a
pretty
common
wording.
B
I
don't
know
if
I
should
show
the
video,
because
we're
you
guys
are
all
on
small
screens,
maybe
I'll
just
email,
you
a
link
to
the
video
it's
just
it
was.
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
jim
crow
of
the
north,
it's
a
seven
minute
version
of
jim
crow
of
the
north,
but
jim
crow.
The
north
is
a
tpt
video
about
mapping,
prejudice
highlighting
their
work,
and
it's
about
an
hour
long.
B
B
A
B
All
right:
well,
I'm
gonna
actually
still
try
to
share
it.
I'm
gonna
try
to
reshare,
I'm
not
gonna
toggle
around
like
I
was
so
amy.
Maybe
you
want
to
take
over
at
this
point,
or
should
I
just
keep
going
and
you
can
you
can
talk
when
we
get
to
the
exciting
part
hold
on
I'm
about
to
share.
D
Yeah,
if
you're
working
on
that,
oh
there,
you
go
okay.
Well,
so,
as
you
can
see
on
the
screen,
beginning
in
the
1940s
and
moving
throughout
the
late
1960s
in
both
state
and
federal
government,
in
both
the
legislature
and
the
judicial
branch,
racial
covenants
were
made
illegal
step
by
step
at
every
level
so
that
by
late
1968
they
had
been
outlawed
at
state
level
federal
level
by
courts
by
law.
You
were
not
allowed
to
make
new
racial
covenants.
You
are
not
allowed
to
enforce
racial
covenants.
You
weren't
allowed
to
discriminate
in
housing.
D
They
had
piecemeal,
tipped
away
at
the
ability
to
create
and
enforce
racial
covenant.
D
However,
as
you
can
see,
it
wasn't
until
2019
that
the
minnesota
legislature
passed
this
law,
allowing
property
owners
to
reject
racially
restrictive
covenants,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
note
note
that
difference
in
in
timing
between
1968
and
2019,
and
it's
especially
important
to
note
that
in
1968
or
leading
up
to
1968,
when
various
branches
of
government
made
these
covenants
illegal,
you
know
it
wasn't
it
wasn't
that
the
people
were
having
a
change
of
heart
and
deciding
that
the
covenants
were
wrong
for
themselves.
D
It
was
the
government
telling
them
they
couldn't
do
it
anymore
and
so
by
1968,
when
covenants
had
become
completely
illegal,
we
as
a
community
didn't
really
do
anything
with
them.
D
We
stopped
enforcing
them
because
we
as
a
community
had
to
stop
enforcing
them,
but
there
was
no
effort
to
redress
the
negative
impacts
of
racial
covenants
or
really
confront
what
occurred
and
what
continues
to
occur
because
of
them,
and
I
think
that
that
is
going
to
be
really
evident
in
the
next
slides
that
maria
is
going
to
show
you
about
the
impacts
of
housing.
Discrimination
like
racial
covenants
and
the
continuing
impacts
that
those
discriminatory
accents
have
even
after
they
are
no
longer.
D
B
So
here's
one-
and
this
is
not
going
to
be
a
surprising
slide
to
anybody-
it
shows
minnesota's
homeownership
gap
and
it
basically
confirms
what
we
have.
I
mean
we
even
hear
the
governor
talking
about
this
now
that
we
have
the
worst
home
ownership
gap
in
the
country
and
so
the
blue
line
on
the
bottom.
B
If,
for
those
of
you
on
small
screens,
is
bypack
home
ownership,
the
pink
line
in
the
middle
is
all
of
minnesotans
and
the
white
line
is
white
non-hispanic,
so
white
non-hispanic
home
ownership
is
up
around
75-80
percent
bipac
home
ownership
is
around
closer
to
the
45
percent
mark.
So
it's
hard.
D
And
when
you
start
to
break
out
a
little
bit
further
into
into
different
categories
of
race
by
homeownership,
you
see
even
further
the
correlation
in
those
disparities.
D
As
I
don't
remember,
if
we
pointed
out
that
racial
covenants,
while
they
the
language,
vary
by
racial
covenants
and
they
impacted
many
different
racial
minorities
within
minnesota,
predominantly
they
were
aimed
at
black
bulk
and
you
can
see
that
the
impacts
of
that
in
this
homeownership
gap
in
minnesota.
So
right
now,
it's
listed
by
all
people
of
color
being
categorized
together.
D
So
in
line
with
what
you
see
with
who
was
targeted
in
these
racial
covenants
and
similar
housing
discrimination
efforts,
you
see
the
the
disparate
impact
in
who,
who
is
impacted
by
them,
continue.
B
So
the
covenants
divided
the
community
by
race
and
the
covenants
went
hand
in
hand
with
another
practice
that
the
federal
government
used
that
called
redlining
and
redlining
was
part
of
the
federal
government's
lending
practices.
So,
basically,
the
federal
government
said
we're
not
going
to
give
a
mortgage
in
an
area
where
black
people
live.
B
We
will
only
give
mortgages
if
they
are
not
mixed
race
and
if
it's
a
white
neighborhood,
and
so
we
think
that
the
best
practices
are
for
developers
to
put
racially
restrictive
covenants
on
these
neighborhoods
and
then
that
will
make
our
lending
less
risky,
because
we'll
know
that
we're
only
lending
to
white
people
in
neighborhoods
with
only
white
people
and
the
idea
behind
this
I
mean
this
is
a.
B
This
is
something
that
is
to
me
is
still
connected
to
how
we
do
zoning
and
property
development
today,
because
what
really
was
happening
there
is
that
people
were
selling
exclusivity
cities
and
the
federal
government
were
creating
exclusive
communities
where
only
white
people
could
live,
and
then
private
actors
were
benefiting.
They
were
profiting
off
of
that
because
if
a
house
was
in
a
racially
restricted
neighborhood,
you
could
sell
it
for
more
and
there
was
money
available
in
the
form
of
a
mortgage
backed
by
the
federal
government
to
buy
those
properties.
B
So
there's
a
lot
of
money
being
made
off
of
this
and
when
I
think
about
planning
and
zoning
decisions
today,
I
I
think
about
is
what
we're
doing
perpetuating
this
idea.
That
exclusivity
is
desirable
and
creates
profit,
and
if
so,
we
probably
shouldn't
be
doing
that
because
it
perpetuates
the
segregated
housing
patterns
that
that
were
created
by
racially
restrictive
covenants,
and
so
what
you're
seeing
on
this
map
here
is
demographics
in
the
city
of
minneapolis,
and
this
looks
like
it's
from
2015.
B
and
you
can
see
so
the
green
areas
are
the
most
diverse
areas.
The
yellow
areas
are,
I
guess,
average,
I'm
not
really
sure
what
that
means,
but
the
red
areas
are
the
least
diverse
areas.
I
also
have
to
say:
whoever
made
this
map.
I
love
that
they
did
the
red.
The
red
is
the
least
diverse,
and
the
green
is
the
most
diverse.
That's
a
great
touch,
but
if
you
overlay
this
map
with
the
richly
restrictive
covenants
map,
you'll
see
that
these
patterns
were
created
by
racially
restrictive
covenants.
So
the
red.
D
B
That's
still
how
we're
living
and
a
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
value
and
accumulation
of
generational
wealth,
which
is,
I
think,
in
a
couple
of
these
next
slides
that
we
we
have
now
made
the
red
areas
so
exclusive
that
you
can't
afford
to
live
in
them.
Unless
you
have
access
to
generational
wealth,
which
you
would
not
if
you
were
targeted
by
racially
restrictive
covenants
in
the
past,.
D
There
was
a
study
done
in
2019
that
found
that
houses
in
minneapolis,
which
previously
had
racial
covenants,
had
an
average
of
four
to
15
percent
higher
present
day
home
values
than
homes
that
never
had
racial
covenants.
So
there
you
can
see
the
present
day
impact
of
racial
covenants
that
haven't
been
legal
for
60
plus
years.
B
B
B
Okay,
so
this
slide,
this
is
kind
of
a
new
idea,
but
I
love
this
slide
and
I
love
this
report
that
this
came
from.
This
came
from
a
report
from
the
met
council
called
rethinking
areas
of
concentrated
poverty.
B
What
you're
seeing
in
that
map,
which
is
probably
pretty
small
for
all
of
you,
the
pink
areas,
are
areas
of
concentrated
poverty,
according
to
the
met
council
and
the
yellow
areas
are
areas
of
concentrations
of
affluence,
and
so
the
met
council
has
decided
they're
going
to
start
studying
these
two
concepts
differently,
because
we
tend
to
focus
on
areas
of
concentrated
poverty,
and
then
we
create
this
dialogue
around
that
like
well,
these
people
and
these
problems.
These
are
problem
areas.
B
These
are
problem
people
living
in
these
problem
areas
and
what
we
really
need
to
be
acknowledging
through
talking
about
this
history
is
no.
These
areas
were
created
like
this
on
purpose
by
government
and
private
industry
and
that
the
decisions
were
made
and
continue
to
be
made
about
where
to
invest,
resources
and
where
to
under,
invest
in
what
areas,
and
so
we
can't
we
should.
B
We
can't
have
and-
and
they
did,
the
mech
council
also
did
a
series
of
listening
sessions
where
they
talked
about,
or
they
heard
from
community
how
damaging
it
is
to
have
the
conversation
use
words
that
diminish
and
narratives
that
diminish
people
living
in
areas
of
concentration
of
poverty
that
we
purposely
created.
B
And
so
we
need
to
change
how
we
talk
about
it,
and
one
way
to
do
that
is
to
acknowledge
the
history,
and
so
that's
so
I'll.
Send
you
a
link
to
that
report
too.
It's
a
really
great
report,
it's
just
kind
of
talking
about
how
they're
going
to
change,
how
they
study
these
things.
B
But
the
other
thing
to
think
about-
and
I
I
really
love
having
conversations
between
golden
valley
and
minneapolis
on
this
topic,
because
you
can
see
it's
kind
of
like
right
in
the
middle
there
there's
a
big
you
can
see
where
north
minneapolis
is
and
then
there's
you
know
a
southern
part
of
golden
valley
in
a
northern
part
of
st
louis
park
and
part
of
minneapolis.
B
And
so
we
have
to
start
talking
about
that
and
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
work
together
across
lines
to
acknowledge
that
and
to
fix
it.
So
then,
yeah.
C
Yeah
go
ahead.
We
just
had
a
question
sure
just
to
clarify.
I
think
what
you
were
saying
is
that,
because
of
these
covenants
and
the
way
that
the
city
was
designed
by
design
by
our
government,
that
they
over
invested
in
certain
areas
and
under
invested
in
some,
so
they
weren't
necessarily
taking
money
away
from
north
minneapolis.
B
Yeah,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
look
at
it,
but
that's
a
good
summary
of
how
I
look
at
it.
I
mean,
if
you
think
about
this-
probably
a
pretty
controversial
thing
to
say,
but
I'm
going
to
say
it
anyway,
because
it's
a
fact,
if
you
think
about
how
we
fund
schools,
for
example,
with
property
taxes,
and
then
we
set,
we
create
higher
values
by
creating
exclusivity.
B
It's
so
that
is,
that
is
by
design
going
to
end
up
with
a
system
where
golden
valley
residents,
who
pay
higher
property
taxes
and
have
higher
values.
However,
those
values
were
created
are
going
to
have
access
to
more
well-funded
schools
and
that's
part
of
the
design
that
we're
talking
about,
and
the
same
is
true
for
all
sorts
of
infrastructure
for
par
access
to
green
space.
B
You
know
decisions
about
where
landfills
and
and
refuse
centers
are
placed,
how
how
wide
are
the
streets
and
what
are
the
parking
rules
and
what
kinds
of
buildings
are
we
building?
And
you
know
all
sorts
of
things
kind
of
radiate
out
of
what
was
the
plan
for
how
this
area
was
going
to
be
developed?
B
I'm
sure
I'm
missing
things
we
can
throw
things
in
as
we
go
here.
There's
another
slide
about
health
impacts.
So
let
me
go
to
that
slide.
E
E
B
Right,
I
think
about
a
lot
lot
size
too
in
terms
of
density
deciding,
and
then
transportation
also
relates
to
that
so
like.
Where
are
we
deciding
to
put
our
transportation
and
then
who
has
access
to
it?
Where
do
they
have
access
to
go?
How
convenient
is
the
mode
of
transportation
that
we
put
in
these
different
places?
B
Transportation
also
is
another
one
that
can
be
used
as
a
barrier.
If
you
decide
not
to
put
a
lot
of
bus
lines
between
golden
valley
and
north
minneapolis,
that's
going
to
impact
the
flow
of
people
and
who
has
access
to
all
of
the
opportunities
that
have
been
built
in
north
minneapolis
or
in
golden
valley
or
in
south
minneapolis
so
like.
B
If
we
have
job
centers
in
golden
valley,
and
we
don't,
we
choose
not
to
have
transportation,
to
connect
people
living
in
north
minneapolis
with
a
job
center
in
golden
valley,
that's
going
to
impact
who
has
those
jobs
so
and
that
that's
true,
so
on
the
slide
in
front
of
you
can
see
it
also.
That's
true
for
health
impact.
B
So,
there's
a
lot
of
research
about
the
fact
that
your
zip
code
is
the
best
indicator
for
your
life
expectancy
and
all
sorts
of
other
things
like
incidence
of
asthma
and
obesity
and
diabetes,
and
they
can
tie
this
back
to
land
use
decisions.
B
So
if
you're
in
an
area
that
has
more
pavement,
it's
hotter-
and
that
is
true
in
port
parts
of
minneapolis
it's-
it
can
be
five
degrees
warmer
in
parts
of
minneapolis
than
it
is
in
my
house
two
miles
away
in
golden
valley
and
that's
all
because
of
how
much
pavement
and
how
much
green
space
there
is
and
how
many
trees
like
tree
cover.
So
those
are
all
decisions
that
were
made
the
same
with
being
you
know,
food
deserts.
How
close
are
you
to
a
grocery
store
where
you
can
get
healthy
food?
D
They're
used
to
industrial
industrial
pollution
in
the
air
that
might
cause
asthma
yeah.
B
And
I
think
I
might
one
of
my
co-workers,
kiara
zachary
she's,
our
equity
and
inclusion
manager
in
golden
valley.
She
lives
in
north
minneapolis,
so
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
thing
at
minneapolis
versus
golden
valley.
There's
there's
like
a
waste
transfer
station
right
near
her
house
kind
of
by
the
river.
All
of
those
things.
It's
not
a
coincidence
that
all
of
those
things
are
where
they
are
we've.
B
I
think
we
previously
talked
about
these
things
as
though
they
were
coincidence,
but
they're,
not
because
because
these
decisions
I
mean
all,
we
have
records
of
all
of
these
decisions
so
like
in
golden
valley,
we
have
planning
commission
and
go
and
city
council
minutes
approving
developments
with
racially
restrictive
covenants
in
the
minutes.
B
So
these
things
were
not
if
somebody
has
made
a
decision
about
all
of
these
things,
which
is
why
we
need
to
be
paying
attention,
because
we
do
continue
to
make
decisions
that
have
these
same
outcomes
and
impacts.
B
So
this
slide
talks
more
about
just
the
accumulation
of
wealth
factor
and
how
important
it
is
that
people
have
access
to
home
ownership
to
be
able
to
accumulate
generational
wealth
when
you,
if
you
watch
t
that
jim
crow
of
the
north
you'll
see
that
kirsten
delagard,
one
of
the
founders
of
mapping
prejudice
talks
about
how
she
owns
a
home
in
south
minneapolis
and
her
grandparents
were
swedish
immigrants
and
they
bought
a
home
in
south
minneapolis
and
then
when
they
died,
part
of
her
inheritance
she
used
to
buy
her
house
and
that
she
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
afford
her
house
if
it
hadn't
been
for
that
help
from
her
grandparents
from
her
inheritance
from
them.
B
And
so,
if
you
are
not
from
a
family
that
has
had
the
opportunity
over
time
to
accumulate
wealth,
then
you
won't
have
that
same
opportunity
that
she
had
to
buy
in
these
neighborhoods.
B
And
so
these
this
map
here
just
shows
home
appreciation
by
zip
code
across
the
city
and
again,
if
you
line
this
up
with
a
racially
restrictive
covenant,
map
you'll
see
just
what
amy
said
before.
If
a
house
had
a
racially
restrictive
covenant
on
it,
it's
more
likely
that
it's
accumulated
more
or
it's
appreciated
more
over
time,
and
so
that
wealth
has
then
been
transferred
to
those
families
that
had
the
opportunity
to
own
that
property.
B
It's
also
worth
saying
that,
even
though
so,
like
you
saw,
there
was
a
ring
of
racially
restrictive
covenants
kind
of
around,
exactly
where
you
would
expect,
and
but
even
though
so,
like
the
suburbs
had
this
ring
of
covenants
along
the
minneapolis
border,
the
city
of
golden
valley
doesn't
have
covenants
on
every
single
house.
So
if
you
move
west
from
the
border
with
minneapolis,
you
see
less
and
less
covenants,
you
do
see
them
pop
up
in
the
most
desirable
places
to
live
like
near
parks
and
around
the
gulf
club.
B
The
the
golden
valley
country
club
had
covenants
around
it.
A
near
medicine
lake,
but
the
whole
city
isn't
blanketed.
Nevertheless,
golden
valley
is
an
87
white
community
now
and
was
designed
to
be
that
way,
because
the
covenants
having
just
a
wall
of
covenants
is
enough
to
stop
people
from
moving
beyond
those
covenants.
And
that
was
a
pattern
that
you
see
across
the
united
states.
D
Yeah
so
so
we've
been
talking
about
a
lot
about
racial
covenants
and
the
impacts
of
virtual
covenants.
Obviously,
because
that's
what
the
project
is
centered
around,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
also
place
those
covenants
within
a
larger
context
of
housing,
discrimination
that
existed
at
the
time
and
that
continues
to
exist
to
this
day.
D
So
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
interplay
between
racial
covenants
and
redlining,
but
the
system
of
housing
discrimination
really
goes
back
as
far
as
white
people
have
existed
in
minnesota,
and
so
you
can
look
really
from
the
start
of
colonization
of
minnesota
by
white
settlers
and
the
exploitation
of
tribal
land
through
today.
To
continue
to
find
you
know,
like
we
discussed
with
racial
covenants
right,
it
was
the
government
telling
people
they
couldn't.
Do
it
not
people
having
a
change
of
heart,
so
it
doesn't.
D
It
shouldn't
surprise
us
then,
to
learn
that
when
racial
covenants
became
outlawed
discrimination
didn't
go
away,
it
just
morphed
into
something
new,
and
so
we
just
need
to
look
and
find
what
that
next
type
of
housing
discrimination
was
that
replaced
racial
covenants,
and
so
another
important
piece
of
this
project
for
me
is
educating
community
members
on
that
larger
system
of
housing,
inequality
and
the
myriad
of
different
types
of
housing,
inequality
that
exist
and
continue
to
exist,
and
so
there's
some
on
your
screen
here,
you
can
see
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen.
D
That
is
the
redlining
map
that
we
discussed
and
so
named
literally.
The
red
areas
were
the
areas
that
were
designated
by
the
banks
as
being
like
literally
called
hazardous
areas,
areas
that
they
wouldn't
give
federally
backed
mortgages
in
and
those
were,
you
know
most
definitely
areas
that
that
people
of
color
lived
in.
There
might
be
other
reasons
to
not
give
mortgages
in
an
area,
but
they
most
certainly
were
not
going
to
give
mortgages
in
an
area
with
a
high
concentration
of
people
of
color
living
there.
D
B
Yeah,
that's
the
highway
map
yeah,
the
so
there's
another
tpt
show
about
the
rondo
neighborhood
in
st
paul
that
you
should
also
check
out,
but
that
map
is
just
pointing
out
that
the
design
of
our
highway
system
in
the
metro
area
is
related
to
redlining
and
the
use
of
racially
restricted
covenants,
because
if
you
line
up
that
highway
map
with
the
most
diverse
neighborhoods
you'll
see
that
the
highways
run
through
what
are
the
most
diverse
neighborhoods
in
our
in
our
community
and
that
also
again
was
purposeful
decisions,
because
when
you
are
carving
out
a
big,
a
giant
highway
from
a
neighborhood,
you
have
to
use.
B
You
have
to
use
condemnation
and
you
have
to
take
out
properties,
and
so
they
just
thought
well.
This
will
be
the
best
we'll
just
destroy
all
of
the
bypass
neighborhoods,
and
then
it
won't
affect
the
white
people.
So
that's
what
that's
what
happened
and
if
you
watch
that
rondo
tpt
show
you'll
see
that,
and
so
you
know
we
have
to
think
about.
How
are
we
making
sure
we're
not
doing
stuff
like
that
today?
B
Because
you
know,
if
you
pay
attention
to
how
government
works,
that
we
have
a
lot
of
processes
where
there's
required
public
hearings-
and
I
think
it's
well
well-intentioned-
to
have
a
public
hearing
and
have
elected
officials
hear
from
the
public
before
they
make
a
decision,
but
a
lot
of
times
whoever's
the
most
organized
and
whoever
has
the
most
people
and
whoever
speaks
the
language
of
the
desires.
B
They
have
a
large
amount
of
influence
on
what
the
decision
is,
and
so
that
has
not
worked
in
the
advantage
of
diverse
communities
over
the
years
in
our
community.
So.
D
Yeah
and
I
think
like
if
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
I
think
this
is
just
the
perfect
example
of
that
because,
as
we
discussed
so
right
like
racial
covenants
in
the
late
1960s,
the
government
told
people
they
they
were
no
longer
allowed
to
enforce
them.
And
that's
really
around
the
time
when
modern
zoning
you
saw
that
start
to
really
pick
up
and
be
adopted.
D
Whole
scale
by
city
is
big
and
small,
and
if
you
look
in
in
the
language
that
you
see
in
front
of
you,
you're
not
going
to
see
like
a
restriction
that
labels.
No,
you
know
no
black
people
or
labels
like
people
based
on
race,
but
effectively.
B
This
is
the
one
from
golden
valley
actually
so
letter
g
says
that
the
premises
conveyed
shall
not
at
any
time
be
sold,
mortgaged
or
leased
to
any
person
or
persons
of
chinese,
japanese,
moorish,
mongolian
or
african
blood
or
descent,
but
and
this
so
this
again
is
from
city
council
minutes.
B
This
is
horrifying
and
it's
from
the
same
year
as
amy
was
saying
that
the
city
of
golden
valley
adopted
its
first
zoning
code,
and
so
when
I
was
looking
at
this
these
minutes
I
was
like
okay,
so
we
required
this
racial
restrictive
covenant
in
this
approval.
What
else
did
we
require
in
this
approval?
B
B
We
required
single
family
dwellings,
so
it
occurred
to
me
when
these
covenants
started
to
become
illegal
cities
were
like
okay,
we
won't
do
the
covenants,
but
we
know
there
are
all
of
these
other
things
that
we
do
in
conjunction
with
covenants
that
also
reinforce
the
system,
so
we're
just
going
to
take
all
those
things
and
make
those
into
laws,
and
you
have
now
they'll-
have
to
do
that
and
so
we'll
be
able
to
perp
perpetuate
the
system
without
actually
having
to
use
the
explicitly
racist
language,
which
is
why
minneapolis
is
24
day
plan
and
the
hugely
controversial
idea
of
not
having
single
family.
B
Zoning
is
really
a
bold
step
in
the
right
direction.
D
Yeah,
so
thanks
for
mentioning
that,
because
that
that
is
another
thing
that
I
talk
to
people
about
a
lot
about
in
this
project
is
like
it's
good
to
know
the
background
information
right,
but
like
what
do
we
do
with
this
background
information
today
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
tell
people
is
now
that
we
know
that
discriminatory
housing
is
so
pervasive,
it's
not
just
racial
covenants.
There
are
so
many
different
types
of
discriminatory
housing
practices.
They
continue
to
exist.
D
They
continue
to
morph
that
when
you
go
out
there
and
you
hear
about
a
new
initiative
related
to
housing,
your
first
question,
no
matter
what
it
is
and
no
matter
what
it
talks
about.
Your
first
question
to
yourself
could
really
be:
what
is
the
type
of
discrimination
that
exists
related
to
this
subject,
because
you
will
find
some,
you
know,
there's
so
much
housing
discrimination
that
whatever
new
program
or
initiative,
you're
hearing
about
it's
going
to
have
some
relation
to
some
kind
of
discriminatory
practices.
And
then
your
next
question
should
be.
D
Does
this
initiative
like
make
those
that
discrimination
worse
or
does
it
make
it
better
and
so
a
little
self-serving?
But
one
of
the
examples
I
use
because
everybody's
heard
of
it
as
minneapolis
2040
and
specifically
the
elimination
of
single-family
zoning.
So
I
I
don't
know
there
was
a
lot
of
conversations
around
elimination
of
single
family
zoning.
D
I
wasn't
a
privy
to
all
of
them,
but
I
do
think
that
it,
it
may
have
been
lost
on
some
people
that
the
elimination
of
single
family
zoning
was
an
act
that
can
remediate
some
of
the
discriminatory
housing
practices
that
occurred.
D
I
don't
think
that
connection
was
necessarily
made
for
for
everyone
and
I
think
if
people
start
to
examine
everyday
housing
practices
or
everyday
housing
policies
to
see
what
the
connection
to
discrimination
is
and
to
see
whether
it
can
eliminate
some
of
those
discrimination
harms
that
are
being
experienced,
that
we'll
start
to
see
more
engagement
in
those
types
of
initiatives
and
more
support
for
them.
So
that's
my
hope
is
that
people
will
start
to
ask
themselves
those
questions
critically
when
they
hear
about
new
things.
E
Amy
and
maria
just
a
question
kind
of
going
off
of
that
then,
as
we
kind
of
talked
about,
there's
a
lot
of
different
connections
to
discriminatory
practices
and
housing
that
affect
a
lot
of
other
aspects
of
life
and
one
of
them,
including
being
like
schools,
I
think,
was
brought
up.
And
so
has
there
been
any
work
that
your
team
has
done
or
just
any
connections
have
been
made
with.
E
I
know
there
was
that
kind
of
redistricting
plan
that
was
approved
last
year,
so
just
wondering
your
thoughts
on
like
the
connection
with
that
and
how
to
view
that
piece
of
policy
through
this
lens.
B
So
we
have
not
connected
with
the
school
districts
other
than
talking
about
how
do
we
educate
through
the
school
district's
channels
and
so
or,
for
instance,
the
justice
coalition
is
we've
participated
in,
like
the
the
I
don't
know.
I
can't
remember
what
they're
called
but
like
the
ecfe
of
robinson
school
districts,
of
like
for
parental
learning,
but
we
do
need
to
start
having
more
conversations
with
school
districts.
B
The
tricky
part
about
that
is
that
so
technically,
under
minnesota
law,
a
school
district
is
its
own
municipality,
so
they're,
basically
the
same
as
a
city
they're
their
own
city.
They
have
different
powers
and
they
do
different
things,
but
they
have
their
own
taxing
authority
and
they
make
their
own
rules
and
they
have
their
own
set
of
rules
that
they
have
to
follow.
B
That's
some
are
the
same,
but
a
lot
of
them
are
different
than
what
cities
have
to
follow,
and
so
I
think
it's
a
little
bit
more
complicated
question
about
how
we
engage
school
districts.
B
I
do
think,
though,
that
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
so
it's
really
important
what
the
narrative
is-
and
it's
also
really
important.
Who
is
asking?
Who,
for
what
you
know,
we
tend
to
a
lot
of
things
are
happening
in
bubbles
because
we
have
these
borders
and
we
know
that
there
are
students
that
live
in
minneapolis,
for
example,
that
open
enroll
into
hopkins
public
schools
and
go
to
meadowbrook,
because
it's
you
know
like
a
mile
across
the
border.
We
know
that
that's
happening.
B
We
have
to
be
talking
to
and
going
the
other
way
too.
You
know
there
there's
a
lot
of.
B
There
are
people
who
live
in
the
suburbs
and
drive
into
the
city
to
go
to
different
schools,
so
we
have
to
be
thinking
more
across
those
lines
and
not
allowing
ourselves,
I
think,
to
be
in
these
bubbles
so
much,
because
one
way
that
this
system
has
been
perpetuated
is
by
having
all
these
separate
buckets
and
not
allowing
people
to
hold
each
other
count
accountable
in
the
different
buckets
that
exist,
because
it's
really
easy
to
get
lost
in
the
system.
B
F
I'm
sorry:
how
can
the
civil
rights
commission
help
and
do
you
have
a
list
of
by
pick
friendly
lenders.
B
So
I'm
gonna
see
here's
my
slide
about
what
we
can
do
and
human
rights
condition
commissions
can
do
even
more,
maybe
I'll.
Let
amy
specifically
talk
about
that
since
she's
a
city
employee,
but
we
are
in
the
process
of
engaging
the
mortgage
community
and
I
think
that
idea
of
making
a
list
of
bipart
friendly
lenders
and
because
there
are
so
before
I
was
a
lawyer,
I
did
mortgages.
B
I
had
a
little
worked
at
this
little
shop
on
lake
street
and
worked
with
the
latino
community
and
a
lot
of
newly
arrived
immigrants.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
very
specific
changes
that
need
to
happen.
Industry
changes
in
real
estate
and
in
lending
mortgage
lending
to
support
all
of
the
things
that
we're
taught
the
change
that
we're
talking
about.
So,
yes,
that
is
part
of
the
coalition,
and
if
you
would
like
to
be
the
the
commissioner
would
like
to
be
involved
in
discussions
about
that.
B
I
think
one
thing
that
we
could
do
is
you
had.
The
coalition
could
be
a
sort
of
a
conduit
for
community
members
to
connect
with
industry
leaders
at
a
larger
scale.
So
not
just
one
one
lending
company
at
a
time,
but
maybe
maybe
talk
through
our
connections
with
the
department
of
commerce
and
that
regulates
that
that
industry
and
make
connections
with
leaders
in
that
industry
to
really
have
them
here.
These
are
the
barriers
that
people
are
experiencing
and
this
is
how
we
think
that
they
should
be
fixed.
B
D
Yeah
so
within
the
city
of
minneapolis,
we're
operating
our
justice
project
internally
and
what
we
are
doing
at
this
stage
is
we
put
out
city-wide
advertisements
to
people
offering
our
services?
We
have
a
website
available
and
an
online
application.
D
So
all
of
our
work,
we
don't
charge
for
the
work
in
preparing
those
documents
or
recording
those
documents
and
hennepin
county
has
waived
all
the
fees
associated
with
recording
legal
covenants
and
within
and
with
looking
up
documents
for
related
to
this
project.
D
So
it
is
free
of
charge
to
applicants
who
qualify
for
the
project
and
basically,
what
we
do
is
just
do
a
little
bit
of
education,
like
we
just
discussed
with
you
about
the
history
of
racial
covenants,
other
discriminatory
housing
practices,
how
that
lines
up
with
modern
practices
and
initiatives,
and
then
what
community
resources
or
community
initiatives
are
available
for
people
to
take
part
in
and
then
assist
folks
with
discharging
those
racial
governance
on
their
properties.
So
you
can
see
our
website
is
available
up
on
the
slide
there.
D
At
minneapolismn.gov
just
deeds
at
this
point
we
are
just
accepting
applications
through
the
website.
We
had
an
overwhelming
response
to
our
citywide
rollout
and
so
we're
looking
to
get
those
applications
underway,
and
then
we
will
move
to
doing
more
directed
conversations
with
various
neighborhood
groups,
both
neighborhood
groups
and
neighborhoods,
that
had
large
amounts
of
racial
covenants
targeted
at
discharge
of
those
covenants
and
education
of
the
community
and
neighborhood
groups
in
neighborhoods
that
were
redlined
that
have
populations
of
individuals
who
were
not
able
to
purchase
homes
because
of
the
racial
covenants.
D
And
those
conversations
will
target
more
about
the
types
of
government
initiatives.
City
initiatives
that
are
available
for
goals
related
to.
D
F
This
is
commissioner
devinish.
I
have
another
question,
I'm
sorry,
you
talked
about
the
economic
gap
and
the
wealth
that's
passed
down,
and
obviously
credit
is
entangled
with
that,
and
minnesota
is
big
on
that.
In
fact,
I've
had
problems
with
that
coming
to
minnesota,
where
you
know
you
have
to
have
good
credit
and
good
credit
means
like
a
credit
score
of
620,
you
have
to
make
three
times
the
rent
you
have
to.
You
know
have
a
deposit
first
month
last
month
you
know
and
current
rent.
F
So
it's
like
it's
so
many
ass.
That
minnesota
has
that
I
personally
had
a
hard
time
with,
and
so
with
that
my
ask,
is
you
know,
can
you
create
or
have
support
to
how
to
repair
your
credit,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
us
because
of
our
student
loan
debt,
which
is
also
a
problem
in
our
community?
F
F
So
I
you
know,
I
think,
of
credit
that
we
need
help
restoring
our
credit
and
also
within
your
organization,
if
you
guys
could
come
up
with
specific
ass,
because
I
think,
with
my
experience
with
the
civil
rights-
and
this
is
just
my
opinion,
commission-
is
that
you
have
to
be
very
specific
and
each
ask
you
know
has
to
be
basically,
in
my
opinion,
voted
on,
because
that's
just
my
personal
thoughts
but
as
a
subcommittee,
I
think
we
can,
you
know
meet.
F
E
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
say,
maybe
as
the
next
step
for
our
subcommittee
is,
we
can
take
this
information
that
was
shared
today,
which
was
so
helpful
and
maybe
come
up
with
a
few
ideas
of
how
we
can
maybe
engage
in
further.
Specifically
from
like
a
community
engagement
standpoint.
Knowing
that's
kind
of
community
engagement,
education
is
what
our
subcommittee
is
and
just
knowing
that
this
is
already
a
project
that
the
city
is
taking
on,
but
thinking
through.
E
Maybe
how
we
can
also
partner
with
your
team
and
help
further
engagement
in
the
community
as
it
sounds
like
the
more
engagement,
the
better
and
the
more
people
doing
the
outreach
the
better.
So
maybe
that
can
just
be
a
next
step
coming
out
of
this
meeting
that
we
can
discuss.
C
Am
I
muted,
can
you
hear
me
yep?
Okay,
I
I'm
just
like
floored
by
this
presentation,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
commissioner
herkman,
for
you
know
inviting
miss
maria
here
and
then
maria
reaching
out
to
you
amy.
I
really
commend
the
work
that
you
do
and
I'm
just
like
it's
a
it's
a
heavy
day,
but
like
I'm,
I'm
fueled
up.
So
in
any
way
we
can
help.
You
know,
educate
and
engage
the
community.
C
I'm
ready
to
do
that
because
it's
just
it's
out
it's
astounding
to
me
that
we
have
all
of
the
data
we
have
all
of
the
information
we
have
one
of
the
largest
well,
the
largest
excuse
me
education
gap
in
the
country.
We
have
the
largest
what
I
just
learned
today:
home
ownership
and
those
things
are
interlinked.
A
C
Can't
fix
it,
we
are
you
kidding,
so
I'm
floored,
I'm
fueled
up
and
let
us
know
how
how
we
can
engage
and
educate.
If
you
have
events,
I
think
we're
happy
to
come
out
and
volunteer
and
talk
to
people.
You
know
once
we
get
this
slideshow
that
you
guys
put
together
so
beautifully,
I'm
happy
to
read
over
it
and
just
you
know,
go
over
talking
points
with
folks.
I
love
doing.
D
C
C
Is
it
possible
because
people
are
profiting
off
of,
like
you
said,
they're
under
investing
they're
over
investing
they're
private
actors
that
are
profiting
off
of
this,
and
I
guess
I'm
just
curious.
You
know
what
your
what
your
thoughts
are
on
that
and
also
I
want
to
open
it
up
to
any
other
commissioners
who
have
questions
or
statements
and
all
that.
B
So
I'll
try
to
answer
that
question.
I
think
the
best
we
can
do
is
everything
we
can
do
and
we
have
to
do
everything
we
can
do.
B
We
have
and
it
starts
with
the
community
engagement
because,
like
I
said
the
narratives
really
matter,
it
feels
sometimes
I'm
a
person
of
action
like
and
I'm
in
a
position
where
I
can
take
action
and
give
advice
that
causes
other
people
to
take
action,
which
is
awesome,
but
you
can't
you
those
things,
don't
actually
gain
momentum
or
make
change
unless
the
narratives
also
change
along
with
that
and
the
community
attitudes,
change
and
people
have
real
commitment
to
it,
and
so
we
have
to
really
focus
on
this
community
engagement
if
we
want
meaningful
action
to
follow
and
the
idea
with
the
coalition
is
that
we
don't,
we
can't
be
prescriptive
because
every
sorry
about
my
dogs
there's
something
very
exciting
happening
at.
B
Every
community
has
been
impacted
by
this
differently,
so
it
is
it's
different
how
we
engage
and
talk
to
golden
valley,
residents
versus
minneapolis
residents,
and
so
that's
you
know
kind
of
to
the
question
about
what
is
the
ask,
and
what
can
we
all
do
I
love
the
idea
of
you
all
having
a
conversation
about
well.
B
How
can
we
take
this
information
and
start
to
bring
it
to
our
community
in
a
way
that's
meaningful
and-
and
I
think
you
already
even
pointed
out-
it's
going
to
be
different,
how
you
talk
about
it
and
what
the
outcome
of
those
conversations
is
depending
on
what
part
of
your
city
you're
having
that
discussion
in,
but
I
think
we
just
we
just
need
to.
We
need
to
start
the
conversation,
keep
the
conversation
going
and
then
what
that
will
lead
to
is
more
policy
change,
which
is
ultimately
as
a
city
attorney.
B
That's
where
I
am
like.
That's
what
I
want
to
be
doing,
but
I
can't
you
know
the
elected
officials
make
those
decisions
and
the
elected
officials
listen
to
what
the
community
says.
So
we
all
have
to
have
the
same
base
before
we
can
get
to
that.
To
that
point,
and
I
love
talking
to
minneapolis,
because
you
all
are
leaders
on
this-
you
do
a
lot
of
things
that
other
cities
don't
do
and
set
an
example
that
other
cities
follow.
B
D
It's
true
it's
true
yeah,
so
I
will
I'll
leave
my
personal
thoughts
on
your
question
aside
and
say
from
a
professional
perspective.
I
understand
why
why
you
framed
the
question
in
terms
of
the
capitalist
society.
D
I
I
get
the
nuances
of
why
you
asked
that
specifically,
but
I
think
I
would
agree
with
maria
to
go
a
step
further,
that,
like
even
outside
of
that
framework,
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
like
culture
in
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
different
contexts
related
to
equity
and
inclusion
work,
and
I
think
that
this
is
issue
also
of
a
culture
of
some
people's
culture
and
what
they
have
been
internalizing
as
how
the
world
should
work
for
many
many
years,
and
I
and
I
think
that's
above
and
beyond,
like
any
like
actual
structural
system
and
so
so
to
kind
of
play
off
what
maria
was
saying.
D
I
do
think
that
that
needs
to
be
like
a
a
culture
shift
for
some
members
of
the
community,
that's
necessary
in
order
for
for
actual
change
to
be
lasting,
and
so
I
agree
that,
like,
while
I'm
happy
to
assist
people
in
the
removal
of
their
racial
covenants
as
as
part
of
this
program.
For
me,
the
value
the
larger
value
I
see
in
it
is
having
those
community
conversations
and
the
potential
for
a
culture
shift
around
these
ideas
of
discriminate,
discriminatory
impacts
in
housing.
E
So
to
going
off
of
that,
what
I
I
know
it
you
briefly
overviewed
when
you
were
talking
about
all
the
different
things
your
committee
is
working
on,
but
I
I
think
I
heard
one
specific
thing
regarding
like
outreach
with
specific
neighborhood
groups
and
neighbor
neighborhoods.
I
actually,
I
think
I
I
used
to
live
in
tangle
town
and
I
believe
we
had
a
mapping
prejudice
meeting
like
with
our
racial
equity
task
force.
E
So
I
think
I've
seen
the
presentation,
everything
but
just
wondering
how
you're
thinking
about
that
specifically
from
an
education
lens
like
what
materials
have
you
maybe
not
materials,
but
like
what?
What
kind
of
tactics
have
you
guys
thought
through
of
you
know,
really
educating
the
community
and
changing
that
cultural
graph?
Because
I
really
I
I
agree
with
you.
E
I
think
if
you
look
at
it,
there
was
a
lot
of
systemic
things
in
play,
but
obviously
you
had
to
have
people
who
were
the
actors
who
were
the
ones
that
didn't
buy
houses
in
specific
neighborhoods
and
didn't
want
to
go
to
specific
neighborhoods
because
they
were
quote
unquote,
bad
and
so
at
the
end
of
it
even
outside
of
the
systemic
structures.
There
is
like
a
cultural
people,
education
lens,
that's
really
important
to
change,
so
just
wondering
how
you
guys
are
thinking
about
that.
Specifically.
D
Yeah,
that's
like
I
mean
so
so
it's
happening
already
in
the
conversations
that
I'm
happy
having
one-on-one
with
people
who
have
applied
so,
like
I
said
as
as
part
of
the
program,
I
sit
down
with
them
when
we're
working
on
their
documents
and
the
first
part
of
that
meeting
is
the
kind
of
like
the
discussion
that
we
just
had
right.
D
So
it's
me
in
a
zoom
call
with
one
or
two
people
who
have
applied
to
the
program
talking
through
all
the
things
that
you
and
I
just
discussed
and
having
a
conversation
about
them,
and
so
it
will
be
a
larger
scale
of
that
in
a
neighborhood
organization
meeting
you
know
it's
going
to
vary.
D
We've
heard
I've
spoken
to
our
ncr
neighborhood
and
community
community
relations
department
about
this
project
and
they've
they've
really
specified
that,
like
there's,
no
one-size-fits-all
approach
to
how
you
talk
to
community,
and
so
it
might
be
a
neighborhood
meeting,
it
might
be,
it
might
be
like
a
formal
community
meeting,
it
might
be
a
we're
sitting
down
in
a
living
room
with
a
group
of
people
meeting.
It
really
just
depends
on
what
the
community
that
we're
talking
to
like
how
how
that
community
responds
and
and
takes
information
and
and
gathers.
B
Yeah
so,
and
we
have
on
the
justice
webpa
webpage,
there's
a
get
involved,
tab
and
there's
a
section
for
community
members,
so
we
have
a
bunch
of
educational
resources
for
people
and
then
kiara.
My
colleague
here
at
the
city
golden
valley
made
a
tool
kit.
So
it's
a
neighborhood
toolkit
and
it
just
basically
is
a
guide
to
have
people
help.
B
People
go
through
the
process
to
try
to
start
facilitating
community
conversations
on
their
own
on
a
one-to-one
basis,
or
you
know
if
it
weren't
coveted,
and
I
wanted
to
invite
all
my
or
maybe
I'll,
just
invite
all
my
vaccinated
neighbors
over
and
we
can
watch
jim
crow
of
the
north
on
my
garage
and
then
have
a
glass
of
wine
and
have
this
conversation
you
know
and
and
talk
about
what
are
we
gonna
do
as
a
neighborhood?
We
all
have
these
covenants
on
our
houses.
We
all
have
the
shared
history.
D
That's
a
great
point
because
there
are,
I
don't
want
to
say,
like
you
have
to
wait
for
me
right.
There
are
already
neighborhood
organizations
out
there.
There
are
a
couple
like
that
have
formally
organized
around
racial
covenants
that
are
not
this
project
they're
like
doing
their
own
thing
by
themselves
and
that's
awesome.
There
are
people
who
have
informally
organized
around
it.
D
Some
of
the
applicants
that
I've
talked
to
have
said
like
hey,
I'm
just
gonna
go
door
knock
because
I
live
in
one
of
these
neighborhoods,
where
everybody,
like
literally
every
house,
has
a
covenant.
I'm
just
gonna
go
door,
knock
my
neighbors
and
tell
them
to
sign
up.
You
know
it
doesn't
have
to
we.
We
have
plans,
but
it
does
not
have
to
be
through
me
that
these
things
are
accomplished.
E
B
E
Super
helpful
to
know
like
the
toolkit
and
the
resources,
and
I
think
that's
something
we
can
take
as
a
subcommittee
as
like
a
next
step
of
like
reviewing
that
and
talking
as
a
larger
commission
on
how
we
want
to
leverage
those
and
maybe
because
I
know
in
the
past,
I'm
relatively
new
to
the
commission
that
I
know
last
year
and
in
the
past
we've
done
things
where
we've
done
like
community.
I
know
last
year
was
like
digital,
but
it
was
a
community
meetings,
education
on
different
types
of
topics
and
we
had
guest
speakers.
E
So
you
know
there
could
be
a
potential
thing
we
hold
with
you
guys,
but
just
knowing
there's,
toolkits
and
stuff
out
there
that
we
can
even
leverage.
That's
super
helpful
to
know-
and
I
think,
if
you
have
any
additional
information,
just
like
you're
saying
there's
like
neighborhood
groups
that
are
already
kind
of
forming
and
doing
their
own
thing.
Even
information
like
that.
E
I
think
those
are
great
connections
that
we
should
be
making
as
a
engagement
and
education
like
subcommittee,
to
make
connections
with
the
people
who
are
already
doing
the
work
and
seeing
how
we
can
like
foster
that
partnership
and
strengthen
that.
F
Yeah,
excuse
me:
oh
okay,
excuse
me
this
is
commissioner
debnish.
So
I
hear
a
lot
of
the
problems
and
I
think
you
guys
are
doing
great
work,
but
at
the
same
time
I
want
to
hear
solutions.
So
once
again
I
talked
about
one
credit
and
finding
lenders
who
are
for
people
of
color.
F
I
think
we
need
solutions,
so
I
love
action,
I'm
all
about
action,
but
action
truly
cannot
occur
until
there
are
solutions
we
can
keep
on
having
this
conversation,
but
part
of
me
is
tired
of
having
conversations
par
me
wants
to
see
the
action
and
finding
solutions.
So
unless
we
can
find
identification
be
hard
to
find
lenders
who
are
people
color,
friendly
or
people
who
can
help?
You
restore
your
credit,
so
you
can
get
the
house
yeah
because
you
know
we
are.
You
know
we
do
have
jobs.
F
G
I'm
a
real
estate
agent
actually
and
I
work
with
a
lot
of
the
community,
especially
minorities,
and
I
work
with
some
great
companies
that
offer
all
those
programs
a
lot
of
the
people
that
I
encounter
are
just
misinformed
as
to
what
the
what
can
help
them.
I
meet
with
so
many
people
that
have
no
idea
where
they
need
to
go
and
who
they
need
to
connect
with.
G
So
I
might
take
them
away
from
the
bank
that
they're
connecting
with
and
take
them
with
a
broker,
that's
going
to
help
them
and
offer
them
a
lot
more
programs,
because
their
banks
can't
do
that
for
them.
Unfortunately,
they're
so
restricted,
so
anybody
who
has
run
into
that
works
with
actual
banks-
I
I
refer
them
to
other
options
and
ninety
percent
of
the
time
they
find
a
better
option
and
a
better
program
that
helps
them
out.
G
D
And
I
do
also
want
to
point
out
that
the
city
of
minneapolis
does
also
have
home
buyer
assistance
programs
for
down
payment
and
closing
costs
for
homebuyers
in
certain
neighborhoods
of
the
city,
it's
generally
north
minneapolis,
so
that
is
also
a
resource.
That's
available,
minneapolis
specific
as
well.
B
I'm
also
taking
notes
on
all
of
these
things,
because
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
realtors
and
other
lenders
that
we've
been
talking
to
to
see
if
we
can
create.
Maybe
we
can
put
up
a
part
of
our
web
page
dedicated
to
these
things
and
provide
people
with
resources
on
the
justice
web
page
and
I'll
also
talk
to
the
department
of
commerce
and
see
because
they
regulate
all
of
these
things,
what
ideas
they
have
for
addressing
those
problems.
G
And
then
I'm
sorry
I'll
say
definitely
look
into
naerab,
because
that's
a
very
very
I
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
them,
but
they
do
a
lot
of
different
things
and
they're,
not
just
in
minneapolis.
They
work
in
different
suburbs
and
different
areas
so
that
you
don't
not
restrict
it
in
just
minneapolis,
because
there's
so
many
you
can
piggyback
on
different
opportunities
and
stuff
like
that
too.
So
there's
so
many
things
out
there
for
people
that
they're
just
not
aware
of
or
informed
of.
G
N-A-R-E-B
there's
also
ppl,
which
is
another
program,
that's
really
great
for
and
they
do
stuff,
not
just
in
minneapolis
as
well.
They
do
a
lot
of
stuff
there,
especially
with
the
george
floyd
and
everything.
That's
transparent,
there's
been
a
lot
of
different
areas
in
minority
specific,
but
that
want
to
help
specific
minority
bases
families
things
like
that
to
invest
in
themselves.
G
So
I
found
some
really
great
programs
for
a
lot
of
the
people
that
I've
worked
with
to
help
them
get
towards
their
earnest
money
or
towards
their
down
payment
or
towards
their
closing
costs,
because
right
now
the
market's
been
super
crazy
to
even
get
offers.
So
you
need
to
have
some
of
this
extra
stuff.
So
that's
where
the
unfortunate
thing
for
new
home.
G
My
experience
they're
the
ones
that
are
missing
out
right
now,
because
they're,
the
ones
that
need
the
assistance,
but
all
these
people
that
are
selling
homes
are
just
looking
at
the
big
number
and
they
could
care
less
about
these
poor
people
that
are
trying
to
invest
in
trying
to
do
something
and
they're
stuck
because
they
cannot
they're
not
getting.
You
know
they
can't
offer
cash.
They
can't
offer
the
different
things
that
all
these
other
people
are
offering.
You
know
investors
or
whomever
it
might
be.
D
G
Inspections-
just
it's
all
just
crazy,
and
so
it's
like
I've
been
like
pulling
in
different
areas
to
trying
to
find
for
my
people,
so
they
can
get
their
offer
accepted
and
be
able
to
look
as
good
as
these
people
that
have
cash
to
just
buy
whatever
it's
been
really
tough
and
but
I've
been.
You
know,
thankfully,
come
up
with
some
really
great
opportunities
for
them,
so
they
can
actually
get
their
offers
accepted
because
it's
been
a
tough
one.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner
davis,
for
doing
the
work
and
sharing
that
with
us.
I
was
just
gonna
suggest.
It
sounds
like
there's
two
parts
to
this
right:
there's
the
engagement
and
education
piece
and
then
there's
the
solution.
Piece
right
and
it
seems
like
commissioner
davis
has
some
connections,
and
I'm
sure
you
know
maria
and
amy
can
connect
with
you
if
they
need
those
resources.
C
G
C
C
And
then
there's
also
a
feed
because
we
need
to
pay
for
porta
potties,
and
so
what
did
you
know
the
feet?
We
needed
150
from
each
table,
150
for
our
table
and
so
and
that
is
on
june
19th
saturday.
C
So
that
would
be
something
I
think
would
be
great
to
have
the
like
a
resource
sheet
for
folks
who
are
looking
to
buy
with.
Maybe
you
know,
credit
issues
or
whatever
and
then
also
resource
sheet
for
people
who
who
want
to
get
that
that
racist,
racial
covenant,
language
off
of
their
their
deed.
Commissioner,
vice
chair
folk,
you
have
your
hand
up
yeah,.
E
I
was
just
gonna
say
I
think
the
like
community
and
engagement
piece
is
like
intertwined
with,
I
guess
the
quote-unquote
solution
piece.
I
feel
like
it's
just
two
different
audiences
that
we're
trying
to
talk
to.
So
I
would
say
the
piece
that
is
more
solution
orientated,
like
commissioner
devenish
said,
is
probably
geared
to
the
community,
who
has
been
hurt
by
these
racial
covenants
and
who
are
currently
still
hurting,
and
so
how
can
we
give
them
immediate
information?
E
And
you
know
just
these
programs
that
are
available
and
give
them
immediate
assistant
and
helping
right
those
wrongs
and
something
that
is
more.
You
know
tangible
for
right
now
and
then
there's
probably
an
engagement
in
community
peace
with
people
who
have
racial
covenants
in
their
in
their
homes,
who
have
benefited
from
racial
covenants,
but
have
not
known
that
they've
benefited
from
it
and
are
likely
a
lot.
E
A
lot
of
the
people
who
do
have
the
power
to
you
know
either
change
whether
that's
through
voting
in
the
future
for
different
bills
and
and
voicing
public
support,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
think
there's
probably
two
two
channels
that
we
can.
D
E
Go
through
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
highlight
that,
as
maybe
two
buckets
of
support
that
we
can
think
through
as
a
subcommittee
as
we
engage
with
this
project.
C
C
I
just
want
to
thank
you
both
once
again.
This
was
really
an
unbelievable
presentation,
very
impactful,
and
I
don't
know
about
everyone
else,
but
I'm
feeling
very
inspired
and
thank
you,
commissioner,
herkman,
for
making
this
connection
so.
C
And
then
I
think
we're
gonna
just
go
to
our
agenda,
and
so
you
guys
can
go
enjoy
your
night,
it's
beautiful
outside,
but
yeah
we'll
make
it
quick,
because
I
know
we
all
do
do
some
things
outside,
especially
at
gfs
anyways.
Thank
you
again,
maria.
C
B
C
B
Will
send
an
email
to
you
with
the
powerpoint
and
the
video
link
and
all
of
that
stuff.
I'll,
probably.
D
C
Goodbye
bye
all
right,
great
great
okay,
so
I
know
that,
like
three
out
of
the
five
of
us
are
here
at
gfs,
I
know
that
we
had
all
right.
We
had
agenda
items.
I
want
to
kind
of
pass
it
to
my
vice
chair
folk,
because
I
know
we
chatted
about
agenda
items,
and
so,
if
you
just
want
to
take
the
floor
for
a
second
while
I
get
the
other
agenda
up,
yeah
yeah.
C
A
Oh
sorry,
am
I
unmuted
no.
E
C
C
A
A
E
E
F
Okay,
and
also
I
wanted
to
talk
about
our
nominations
for
awards,
because
we
have
to
agree
on
them
and
then
or
not
agree
whatever
and
then
bring
it
to
the
commission,
our
next
meeting
in
order
to
pass
them
out
to
the
community
members,
and
we
recently
received
an
email
from
this
city,
minneapolis
civil
rights
department
that
they
they
approve
it
and
that
it
should
be
ongoing
that
we
should
recognize
community
members.
So
if
we
forget
any
community
members
now
we
can
recognize
them
at
a
later
date.
F
I
wanted
to
recognize
them
at
juneteenth,
but
obviously
because
we
not
got
them
approved,
we'll
just
have
to
mail
them
or
maybe
because
the
coverage
restrictions
are
over.
Maybe
we
could
do
something
at
city
hall-
I
don't
know,
but
we
could
look
into
that
so
juneteents.
E
Sorry
just
a
question
for
the
awards,
and
so
is
this
something
that
we
would
be
giving
them
like
a
certificate
or
how
like
what
are
we
awarding
them
specifically
yeah?
I'm.
F
Trying
to
be
cost
effective.
Okay,
I'm
asking
I'm
asking
for
paper
certificates,
I'm
going
to
also
ask
that.
F
Maybe
we
spend
money
on
the
frame
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be,
you
know,
to
buy
them
like
amazon
or
something
and
you
know
save
cost,
and
then
I'm
going
ask
that
we
give
like
a
25
gift
card
because
the
last
meeting
he
mentioned,
we
have
like
three
thousand
dollars
and
obviously
we
can't
use
that
money
for
juneteenth,
because
now
that's
going
to
pass,
but
I'm
working
with
the
civil
rights
department
to
ask
if
they
can
pay.
F
You
know
150
for
a
table
because,
as
I
just
explained
to
be
honest,
you
may
not
want
to
hear
it.
The
biggest
cost
is
the
porta-potties,
but
I'm
being
completely
transparent.
E
Is
also
because
I
think
you
just
said
that
this
would
be
an
ongoing
award,
so
maybe
that's
something
we
can
discuss
too
of
like
do.
We
want
to
make
it
like
twice
a
year
or
like
first,
I
was
gonna,
say
monthly,
but
if
we're
gonna.
E
Stuff
that
might
not
be
possible,
so
just
thinking
about
how
we
would
how
frequent
we
would
want
to
give
out
these
awards,
and
then
that
would
go
into
the
total
amount
of
money
that
you
would
be
asking.
F
For
right,
okay,
well,
one
it's
a
process
because
each
person
we
have
to
you
know
nominate
and
we
gotta
decide
yay
or
nay,
then
so
it's
a
process
so
I'ma
hold
to
that
answer
and
say
I
don't
know
and
just
like
we
can
take
it
as
we
can
go
because
of
that
whole
process.
I
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
F
But
juneteenth
is
a
work
in
progress.
As
you
know,
kobe
restrictions
were
recently
lifted,
so
we're
moving
we're
moving
as
fast
as
we
can
given
what's
been
happening
and
we're
doing
the
best
we
can
with
that.
But
I
have
some
wonderful
guest
speakers,
mr
philippe
cunningham,
our
council
member
will
be
there.
I
am
requesting
the
mayor.
F
Naacp
is
on
board
and
I
have
some
other
great
people
coming
as
well.
So
I'm
just
excited
for
that.
So
I
will
share
more
updates,
as
I
find
out
as
it
progresses.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
about
that.
C
I
have
one
question:
would
we,
as
a
commission
or
subcommittee,
be
able
to
get
a
table
there
or
because
it's
like
we're
buying.
F
No,
no!
No!
No!
No
wait!
Let
me
answer
that
question.
I'm
sorry!
I'm
asking
that
the
civil
rights
department
bring
a
table
because
everyone
who
comes
they
need
to
bring
their
own
table
and
chairs.
If
they're
not
coming,
then
I'll
bring
the
table
in
the
chairs
and
once
again,
I'm
just
trying
to
fund
money
to
support
juneteenth.
F
That's
just
one
cost:
you
got,
you
know,
there's
entertainment!
You
got
to
pay,
for
you
know
the
stand
and
all
those
things
you
got
to
pay
for
so
an
event
like
this
does
cost,
but
it's
really
about
the
significance
of
juneteenth.
F
So
that
too
is
a
work
in
progress,
but
I'm
working
with
the
civil
rights
department
to
try
to
figure
out
the
logistics
on
how
that
would
work.
If
that
answers,
your
question.
Does
that.
C
Well,
I
just
I'm
wondering:
are
we
gonna
pay
the
150
for
the
like
we'll
break?
Let's
say
we
bring
a
table,
but
will
the
this
commission
and
subcommittee
be
able
to
table
there
or
does
that
go
against
any
like
commission?
I.
F
Well,
the
money,
the
money
is
not
going
to
be
funded
in
time
from
the
civil
rights.
Well,
I'm
trying
to
get
that
again.
This
is
why
I'm
working
with
the
civil
rights
department
as
a
whole
and
I'm
trying
to
say,
can
you
guys
pay
the
150,
because,
as
a
subcommittee,
that
has
to
be
voted
and
the
next
time
we
make
is
after
juneteenth
yeah.
So
that's
why
I'm
trying
to
work
with
them.
F
Right
exactly
and
then,
depending
on
how
long
the
day
is
you
know,
juneteenth
can
you
know
we
gotta
set
up
around
10
or
11
and
we
could
go
all
the
way
to
seven
so
between
all
of
us,
we
could
take
shifts
between
the
department,
and
so
we
can
share
responsibility
of
manning
that
table.
C
Oh
kayla
reached
out
about
having,
like
you
know,
gosh
literature.
C
What
am
I
trying
to
say
you
got
it
yeah
literature
to
hand
out,
and
I
told
her
that
you
know
we
were
gonna
be
down
here
today
and
she
said
I
won't
have
it
by
you
know
tuesday,
but
I'll
have
something
for
juneteenth.
So
I
don't
know
if
the
department
is
planning
on
coming,
but
I
mean
if
we
you
know
right
now
want
to
plan
on
attending.
C
E
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
that's
something
we
should
definitely
open
like
the
tabling
aspect
of
it.
Well,
I
guess
you
just
said
that
our
next
mission
meeting
is
after
june,
but
I,
but
if
we
maybe.
F
Right-
and
I
also
reached
out
to
the
chair
and
to
the
vice
chair
in
terms
of
them
to
them
speaking
yeah,
because
no,
no,
no
and
and
it's
okay
also
to
talk
about
the
civil
rights
department,
but
also
to
address
the
gun.
Violence.
That's
been
happening,
yeah,
I
recently
emailed
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair.
I
came
up
with
a
proclamation
I'm
requesting
that
the
s
s
p,
team,
review
it
and
I'm
requesting
a
gun
violence
day
and
a
gun,
violence,
accountability,
task
force.
F
Those
are
my
ask
and
I'm
gonna.
I
talked
to
mr
cunningham.
He
said
he
likes
the
idea
and
he
supports
idea
and
he'll
talk
about
the
gun,
violence
as
well.
But,
yes,
we
can
bring
up
tabling
ideas
to
the
commission,
because
I
think
we
do
this
opportunity
to
solve
what
they
said.
The
mdl
naacp
will
be
there
requested
the
mayor,
so
I
I
think
it
is
in
our
best
interest
to
show
up
and
support
in
whatever
ways
we
can.
Juneteenth
is
only
one
day.
C
Oh,
no,
I'm
saying
like
our
subcommittee
should
should
be
there.
You
know
or
just
like
people
can
sign
up,
and
I
think
vice
chair
commissioner
pope
and
I
can
like
you
know,
chat
about,
like
maybe
shifts
like
you
know,
12
to
two
or
you
know
whatever,
and
then
we
can
email
the
subcommittee
and
then
we
can
also
email.
We
can
send
out
an
email
to
all
the
commissioners
asking.
A
B
E
To
connect
yes,
the
two
of
us
and
then
we
can
just
map
out
like
what's
the
best
way,
to
disseminate
this
information
out
to
the
subcommittee
and
the
broader
commission
and
encourage
attendance
across
the
commission
because
they
want
to
make
sure
you
know
we
talked
about.
One
of
our
goals
is
just
getting
more
space
time
as
a
commission
as
a
whole,
so
I
think,
as
many
people
we
can
encourage
out
of
the
commission
to
attend
the
better.
So
yeah,
that's
my
my
perspective
on
it.
F
Also,
I
want
to
provide
an
update
city
minneapolis
public
health
will
be
in
attendance.
They
provided
me
with,
like
4
000,
face
masks
boxes
of
hand,
sanitizer
handy
wipes
tissues.
I
shared
that
information
with
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair
as
well.
C
I
think
that
for
our
like
tabling
purposes
and
once
vice
chair
folk
and
I
figure
out
like
shifts
and
stuff,
I
think
we
should
have
the
departments
like
flyers
and
information.
We
should
also
see-
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
interested
in
having
the
just
deeds
information,
also
having
ending
qualified
immunity,
and
then
we
could
maybe
do
voter
engagement
or
is
that
just
like
too
much
no.
F
And,
and-
and
this
is
why
I
say
that
the
work
in
juneteenth
is
ongoing
because
covet
restrictions
just
ended
and
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
space
we
can
have
because
it
just
ended.
So
it's
a
it's
a
work
in
progress
right
now
we
just
have
a
school
involved
and
we're
trying
to
get
more
space
within
that
community.
So
that's
why
I
work
in
progress.
E
And
I
know
this
is
just
one
idea
I
just
had,
and
this
might
help
with
your
need
to
have
more
people
have
tables
to
fund
the
over
the
porta
potties.
But
one
idea
is:
if
we,
you
just
brought
up
the
public
health
department,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
they
would
ever
want
to
have
a
table
there
and
they
could
hand
out
information.
F
Yeah
we
talked
about
that.
Okay,
we
talked
about
that.
We
talked
about
that
and
I
asked
them
if
they
could
do
vaccines
there
and
he
said
he'll
look
into
that.
Oh,
that
would
be.
E
Sweet
yeah
that
would
be
awesome,
yeah
and
then
and
then
one
other
option,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
would
want
to
open
up
to
that
many
people,
but
just
thinking
about
voter
education,
I'm
you
know
there.
People
are
already
campaigning,
there's
already
organizers
and
campaigns
up
and
running
and
doing
stuff
regarding
voting
specifically
for
the
candidates,
but
also
just
broadly
on
education.
E
So
I
wonder
if
there's
some
people
that
we
could
reach
out
for
that
that
they
might
also
want
to
have
booths
at
juneteenth,
and
I
don't
know
how
political
you
want
to
make
it.
So
maybe
that's
something
we
fear.
Maybe
there's
a
non-partisan
group
that
we
can
connect.
That
is
just
more
for
voter
education,
because
then
that
could
be
another
opportunity
to
have
those
materials
there
and
for
you
to
have
another
booth.
There.
F
C
Also,
we
are
we,
you
were
saying
something
about
black
boats
matter
and
they
are
non
non-um,
partisan,
but
yeah,
non-partisan
voting,
engagement
and
registration
group
yeah.
Oh
that's
great,
commissioner.
C
You
have
your
hand
up
well,
it's
also
because
I
I
work
for
anika
through
that
organization.
The
black
boats
matter,
so
I'm
like
yeah,
let's
get
our
team,
so
mr
herkman
is
that
an
accident
muted
non-music
all
right.
Well,
commissioner,
herkman
you're
here
you
have
your
hand
up,
and
I
want
to
honor
your
hand.
F
This
list,
yes,
so
I
have
a
list
of
community
members
I
sent
to
miss
commissioner
gold.
The
first
one
is
rakia
abdi.
She
works
in
the
somali
community
in
the
cedar
riverside
community.
I
did
provide
a
link
in
terms
of
her
work
that
she
does
in
the
community.
F
She's
also
works
at
hannibal
county
as
a
librarian.
She
came
up
with
she
published
her
own
book
about
parenting
and
dysport
dysphoria.
I
believe
next
we
have
eliza
wesley,
who
is
a
gatekeeper
at
george
floyd
square
she's,
been
recognized
for
her
ongoing
community
work.
Volunteering
unpaid.
F
He
does
prison
reform
and
restorative
justice
in
the
community.
Next
we
have
raheem
shabazz
l,
who
does
circles
of
discipline
who
is
also
working
on
juneteenth
and
various
ongoing
community
work
he's
always
involved
volunteering.
His
time
next
is
kellis
houston
who
came
to
the
commission
meeting
regarding
the
african
american
preservation
act,
mary,
jo
copeland.
She
is
sharing
caring
hands,
her
name.
I
hope
you
guys
know
who
she
is
and
the
work
that
she
does
in
the
community
for
people
in
need.
F
Shakira,
fraser
circles
of
discipline,
great
community
member
always
giving
to
those
in
need
community
needs
community,
michael.
What
is
michael's
last
name?
Why
am
I
blanking
on
it?
We'll.
D
F
We'll
get
back
to
you,
michael,
but
michael's
here
at
george
floyd,
he
gives
free
food
to
the
community.
So
if
you
don't
have
any
money,
it's
okay,
he
just
asks
for
donations.
They'll
share
perry,
she
does
work
and
be
their
voices
non-profit.
Her
son
was
killed
but
died
in
prison
nine
days
in
prison
and
she
turned
her
pain
into
a
restorative
prison
reform
act.
She
got
ramsey
county
correctional
officers
to
wear
cameras
in
the
facilities
and
she's,
doing
ongoing
work
to
educate
and
make
time
for
our
incarcerated
low-level
individuals.
F
And
that's
it
for
me.
Do
you
have
any
suggestions.
G
Please
let
me
know
where
you
need
some
assistance:
sam
carr,
who
does
the
circle
of
discipline,
is
my
cousin
actually
on
my
family
yeah,
like
my
my
father-in-law,
is
w
harry
davis.
If
you
know
who
he
is
so,
I
know.
G
Like
in
the
community
and
stuff
like
that,
so
and
sankar
is
a
family
member,
so
I
also
got
to
call
a
couple
people
if
we
want
them
to
do
any
more
or
any
less.
G
F
Okay,
thank
you,
so
I
I
guess
we
need
to
officially
vote
on
on
these
lists
of
nine
individuals.
Oh
so
ms
commissioner
davis
mentioned
she
proves
of
shankara
frazier
and
and
knows
her
very
well
and
also
for
work.
Raheem
works
with
her
in
the
circles
of
discipline.
I
worked
with
a
lot
of
them
at
hennepin
county
miss
vice
chair
folk.
You
have
your
hand
up.
E
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
confirm:
are
we
are
we
bringing
all
nine
to
the
broader
commission
to
vote
on
as
these
are
our
awardees,
or
are
we
trying
to
narrow
it
down
just
just
declare
what.
F
What
would
you
like
to
do?
What
would
you
like
to
do
vice
chair
folk.
E
E
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
them
to
understand
like
what
is
the
full
thing
that
we're
doing
and
and
exactly
what
is
the
cost
associated
with
that,
knowing
that
it
would
come
out
of
our
budget,
and
so
my
recommendation
is
maybe
we
if
we,
if
we're
trying
to
do
this
ongoing?
Maybe
we
start
with
a
couple
and
then
we
continue
the
continue
giving
out
different
awards.
E
I
I
also
just
don't
know,
because
it
sounds
like
it's
kind
of
up
in
the
air
of
when,
like
how
much
budget
we
have
or
how,
how
that
all
process
all
works,
but
I
think
just
knowing
how
the
commission
works.
It
might
be
more
easier
to
bring
a
few
people
in
first
versus
having
nine
people
and
that's.
E
F
C
Question,
ms
commissioner
davis,
you
are
a
realtor
you're
good
with
numbers.
What
is
nine
times
25.
Just
out
of
curiosity,
said
a
hundred
cause.
C
Yeah,
okay,
thank
you.
So
here's
kind
of
what
I'm
thinking,
because
I
like
the
I
because
in
my
mind
I
was
like
oh
yeah.
Let's
just
do
all
nine,
but
I
kind
of
like
vice
chair
folks
idea
of
doing
some.
You
know
what
I
mean
kind
of
trickling
it
out,
but
I
think
we
should
approve
all
nine
and
then
we
can,
you
know,
do
five
now
four
later
and
then
keep
adding.
Do
you
know
what
I
mean
because
this
process,
every
time
is
just
gonna,
be
like
hey.
C
You
know,
and
I
feel
like
I
entrust
in
all
of
us
to
make
decisions
for
the
body
for
the
subcommittee
and
for
the
larger
body
of
who
you
know
in
our
community
is,
is
doing
the
most
work
or
who
we
want
to.
You
know
give
a
little
shine
to
a
little
certificate
and
you
know
25
bucks.
So
I
feel
like
I
know
we
we
have
to
like
vote
on
this
and
we
have
to
agree
on
it
and
da
da
da
da,
but
I
where
I'm
at
is
like
I
fully
like.
C
C
E
Trying
to
think
of
what
would
be
most
effective
sitting
in
in
some
of
these
meetings
and
hearing
some
of
the
questions
that
do
come
up
so
yeah.
That's
where,
if
we
can
even
commissioner
definition,
I
don't
know
if
it's
like
putting
it
on
a
document
or
sending
it
before
the
agenda
for
the
next.
F
F
F
C
F
F
I
sent
the
list
yeah,
I
sent
the
list
to
you,
so
I
don't
know
I
guess
I
had
a
different
vision
and
and
different.
I
thought
this
information
would
be
shared,
but,
needless
to
say,
what
I
can
do
is
I'll
send
the
list.
I
can't
send
it
to
each
one
of
you
because
I'll
be
breaking
quorum
rules,
so
I
guess
I
have
to
send
this
list
to.
F
I
don't
know
how
to
do
this.
Now,
I'm
just
I
anyways
what
I
did.
What
I
did
is
I
I
sent
it
to
the
chair
and
the
vice
chair
and
added
it
to
our
agenda.
So
I
you
know
whatever
you
guys
want
to
do.
It's
fine
with
me.
C
C
F
F
So
if
you
guys
miss
question
folk,
I
don't
know
how
you
want
to
perceive
I'm
gonna
respect
the
the
hierarchy
and
I'm
just
gonna
take
a
step
back
and
I'm
gonna
leave
it
up
to
you
and
the
chair
to
make
your
decision
on
how
we
should
proceed.
E
So
I
I
I
personally
feel
like
we're
on
the
same
page,
so
I
don't
want
there
to
be.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
I
I'm
not
disagreeing
by
any
sense,
I'm
saying
I
think
we
should
bring
these
nine
to
the
commission
like
absolutely.
I
totally
am
agree
agreeing
with
that.
My
my
perspective
is
just.
E
We
should
give
information
to
the
commission
ahead
of
time
so
that
we
can
make
it
faster,
so
they
can
re.
You
know
they
send
out
these
agendas
48
hours
in
advance.
So
if
these
names
are
already
in
here
with
a
bullet
point
of
this
is
what
they've
done
in
the
community
and
etc.
I
think
that
will
make
it
easier
for
when
we
actually
have
the
discussion
as
a
commission,
and
it
would
move
that
conversation
faster,
so
we
can
actually
get
it
approved
faster.
That.
E
From
I've
no
disagreements
on
these
people
whatsoever
or
we're
bringing
it
or
we
can
approve
them
all
at
one
time,
I'm
alive,
like
I'm
agreement
with
all
of
that,
I
was
just
suggesting
ways
that
we
can
maybe
ensure
that
the
commission
moves
it
forward
and
we
can
have
a
shorter,
maybe
discussion
about
it
in
the
actual
commission
meeting.
That
was
where
I
was
coming
from.
C
C
Okay,
so
why
don't
we
just
vote
right
now
to
bring
this
to
the
next?
The
full
body
meeting.
C
Right
is
that
okay,
so
I'm
proposing
that
we
take
a
vote
to
bring
these
nine
nominees
to
that's
already
added
to
the
agenda
item,
but
we're
going
to
vote
on
giving
them
a
certificate
and
25
each
for
their
service.
Your
their
volunteer
service
in
our
community.
F
Well,
can
we
I
I
don't
know
if
the
25
would
be
separate
or
together
with
that
vote,
I
don't
know.
C
C
Yes
again?
Okay,
next,
okay,
vice
chair
folk,
yes,
commissioner,
davis.
F
C
And
the
chair
gold,
yes,
that
motion
passes
and
we
will
bring
the
nine
nominees
to
the
fuller
commission
on
monday
june
21st
and
now
we
I'm
going
to
motion
that
we
vote
on
giving
these
nine
nominees
25
gift
cards.
When
we
talk
to
the
commission,
the
the
full
body
just
saying
that
we
that's
what
we
voted
on
and
hopefully
they
will
do
the
same.
Do
I
have
a
second?
C
Yes
all
right,
let's
see,
commissioner
davis.
Yes,
last
year
folk,
yes,
commissioner,
yes,
commissioner,
gold,
yes,
emotion,
passes
and
we
will
bring
the
nine
plus
the
motion
to
allocate
25
each
to
the
full
body
commission
meeting
on
monday
june
21st
all
right.
C
E
C
E
Something
say
something:
do
something
stop
discrimination?
Do
we
want
to
discuss
that?
I
can
list
the
other
items
as
well.
It's
unqualified
immunity,
anniversary
remembrance
of
george
floyd
525
at
george.
C
Today,
so
that
was
this
was
also
the
agenda
for,
like
our
previous
meeting,
that
got
canceled.
So
I
was
going
to
invite
everybody
here
and
talk
about
that.
Do
we
want
to
talk
about
the
campaign?
C
The
say
if
you
see
something.
C
F
Discrimination,
the
local
artist
who's
designing
a
logo
is
still
working
on
that
needs
some
more
time.
F
I'm
hoping
that
by
maybe
the
commission
meeting,
I
can
provide
it
as
to
the
whole
commission
so
that
everyone
can
see
it,
and
I
did
put
it
on
the
request
to
add
it
on
the
agenda
for
next
meeting.
C
All
right,
oh
the
other
thing
that
I
don't
know
how
you
both
feel
about
this
but
meeting
in
person
for
our
next
subcommittee
meeting,
I'm
okay
with
that.
Okay,
I
used
to.
C
All
right
should
we
plan
on,
should
we
vote.
E
Yes,
oh
one
question
remind
me-
and
I
really
should
know
this,
but
who
are
the
other
members
of
this
subcommittee.
C
E
Yeah,
let
me
look,
I
can
walk
on
here:
okay,
yeah,
okay,
so
it
looks
like
we're
just
missing,
commissioner
herkman,
because
kate
stevens
is
no
longer
with
the
commissioner.
Oh
okay,
so
yeah.
C
I'm
sure
he'd
be
cool,
I
mean
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
him
all
right,
so
making
a
motion
to
meet
at
george
floyd
square
or
phelps
park.
We
can
figure
out
the
details
on
our
next
commission
meeting.
Our
subcommittee
excuse
me
meeting.
I'm
gonna
get
a
second
one.
C
I
think
yeah
so
because
we,
if
we
let
the
public,
know
in
advance,
you
know
that
we're.
E
C
Here-
and
this
is
the
date
and
time-
and
you
can
engage-
you
know
in
the
public
discussion
at
that
certain
time-
then
yes,
if
we
don't
let
them
know,
then
we're
like
violating
open
meeting
laws
but
yeah.
If
we
move
to
a
meeting
in
person
outside,
then
they
can
meet
us
there.
Otherwise
they'll
just
have
the
notes
or
meeting
minutes.
You
know:
okay
yeah,
that
sounds
good
yeah.
Okay,
commissioner
definish
meeting
in
person,
yes.
F
C
What's
your
fault
yes
and
commissioner
davis?
Yes,
commissioner,
gold
is
a
yes.
That
motion
passes
so
yeah.
Our
next
subcommittee
will
be
in
person
either
at
phelps
park
or
at
george
floyd
square
and
the
public
will
be
notified
and
they
can
attend
the
meeting
and
we'll
have
a
separate
little
time
set
aside
for
public
discussion.
E
C
Okay
and
the
unqualified
immunity
stuff
is
ongoing
and
we
got
the
update
about
the
stop
to
discrimination
campaign.
We
did
have
an
update
about
juneteenth.
Is
there
anything
else
you
two
would
like
to
this
or
excuse
me
three.
I
feel
like
we're
one,
because.
F
How
would
I,
oh
I'm
sorry,
oh
no
go
ahead,
I'm
just
wondering
how
would
you
like
the
civil
rights
commission
to
help
with
the
qualified
immunity.
C
It
would
just
be
like
volunteer
ships
like
I
know
we're
going
to
be
at
bancroft
bank
bancroft
on
thursday,
from
six
to
eight
at
their
annual
bancroft
meeting
or
whatever
so
just
stuff
like
that.
More
just.
E
I
don't
think
there's
anything
we
really
need
to
discuss,
but
I
just
want
to
like
list
off
the
other
stuff
that
was
on
the
agenda
in
case.
Do
you
feel
like
we
should
talk
about
these
items?
Yeah
were
dates,
so
I
think
we
had
voter
registration.
Food
pantry
community
need
community,
so.
B
C
C
Time
I
think
we
can
table
mutual
aid
drive
for
next
time,
but
I
do
think
that
I
want
to
find
a
way.
That's
convenient
for
all
commissioners
to
be
able
to
be
more
engaged
in
in
community
and
community
involvement,
so
like
food,
pantry,
stuff
and
volunteering
for,
like
michael's
organization,
community
needs
community
and
then
also
tabling
doing
voter
engagement
and
and
qualified
immunity
like
I
just
wish
there
was
a
google
drive
or
you
know,
google
form
we
could
share,
but
I
know
that
violates
open
meeting
laws,
so
maybe
I'll
just
send
out
emails.
C
E
Yeah
and
I
feel
like
we
can
ask
kayla
too,
if
there's
just
maybe
some
ways,
we
can
go
around
doing
that.
C
E
C
All
right
well
with
no
further
discussion.
I
call
this
meeting
adjourned
and
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
being
on
the
call
and
doing
all
the
hard
work
and
all
that.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you,
three
that
are
in
the
call
let's
go
enjoy
the
night.