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B
C
All
right
welcome
to
the
ine
subcommittee
of
the
pedestrian
advisory
committee
for
the
city
of
minneapolis.
First
threshold
note,
members
of
the
board
may
participate
remotely
by
telephone
or
other
electronic
means
due
to
the
local
public
health
emergency
novel
coronavirus
pandemic,
declared
on
march
16
2020.
Pursuant
to
the
provisions
of
minnesota
statute,
section
13d.
C
D
C
F
F
So
all
of
our
material
should
be
on
our
website
already.
That's
like
past
open
houses
and
current
one-way
concept
and
the
the
glendale
transit
proposal
and
that's
relocation
of
transit
from
bryant
to
lindau
and
the
two
typical
cross
sections
here.
As
you
can
see,
two
six
foot
sidewalks
three
foot
bikeway
off
street
to
bi-directional
in
some
sections
we
have
double-sided
parking
with
a
10
through
the
10-foot
through
lane
and
in
other
sections
we
have
another
10-foot
through
lane.
F
We're
including
12
feet,
two
feet:
the
gutter
pan
there
and
two
other
six
foot
sidewalks
and
eight
foot
bikeway,
but
in
many
places
around
the
corner
that
exactly
a
10-foot
bikeway
and,
as
you
can
see,
we're
showing
clear
zones
here
and
about
seven
and
a
half
foot
boulevards
between
four
and
a
half
boulevards
for
those
cross.
Sections
bryant
will
be.
F
So
that's
just
generally
the
that's
the
gist
of
it.
We
can
also
kind
of
look
at
some
of
the
the
concepts
again
I'll
mention
that
those
haven't
changed
much
from
the
last
time
we
were
here,
but
if
you
guys
have
any
questions
about
that
about
the
bryant
concept.
Otherwise
I
can
move
on
to
the
lindell
concept.
C
E
E
C
F
H
F
That
yep,
okay
cool,
so
the
lindell
chance
proposal
as
a
reminder,
is
moving
six
bus
routes
from
bryant
to
lindell.
These
are
three
local
stops
and
three
limited
stop
routes.
The
only
exception,
as
you
can
see
here
on
this
graph.
This
map
here
is
between
38th
and
36th
street.
Here
we've
got
30th
and
36th
street,
where
we
have
a
contrapho
bus
lane
where
we're
looking
to
get
that
front
door
service
to
walker
methodist,
also
to
account
for
some
emergency
services
that
turn
on
to
brian
in
need
to
service.
F
Welcome
methodist,
just
because
of
the
nature
of
that
that
building,
but
otherwise
transit
surface
will
move
to
to
lindell
local
and
the
limited
stop
service.
In
addition
to
that,
we're
proposing
15,
consolidated,
stops
or
15
stops
along
along
window,
which
were
consolidated
from
what
they
were
on
bryant
and
at
three
of
those
stops
that
are
not
that
are
not
signalized
we're
adding
in
pedestrian
medians,
and
these
are
closed.
F
F
Sorry
about
that
guys.
You
think
I
would
understand
how
to
navigate
the
second.
Here.
We
go
right
here
that,
in
the
top
left
we're
moving
the
curb
back
on
the
northeast,
curb
line
to
accommodate
a
pullout
stop
to
allow
a
metro,
transit
bus
to
pull
out
of
the
traveling
at
a
busy
intersection
allowing
cars
to
kind
of
flow
flow
through.
F
F
E
So
these
two,
these
two
proposals
are,
are
completely
linked,
so
what
we're
proposing
on
bryant
is
not
possible
unless
we
move
forward
with
the
transit
proposal
on
lindale.
Given
you
know
the
really
narrow
one
way
that
we're
proposing
on
bryant
so
we'll
be
bringing
these
two
things.
This
is
one
project
we'll
be
bringing
both
of
them
through
layout
review
to
transportation.
Public
works
committee
together.
C
A
I
do
I
what
I
wanted
to
say
is
I
I
have
to
say
I
and
I
will
I
will
I'm
working
on
the
the
statement,
but
I
just
love
the
narrow,
one-way
convergent
street.
I
think
it's
so
much.
I
lived
on
bryant
not
very
far
from
46th
and
bryant,
and
it's
it's
a
great
design.
I
think
I
just
that's
my
opinion.
It's
not
a
pack
opinion,
although
I
am
a
pac
member.
A
E
C
J
J
Speaking
to
transit,
can
I
get
the
best
from
be
it
from
from
the
city,
presenters,
trailer,
liz
or
sony
who's
here
best
affirmative
case
for
the
movie
moving
transit.
This
way
for
the
people
who
are
using
transit
want
to
read
you
the
documents,
semi-curse,
really,
a
lot
of
talks
about
the
transit
section
talks
so
much
about
how
it
affects
vehicle
traffic,
and
but
when
I
see
out
when
I
look
at
when
I
look
at
brian
first
lindell,
I
see
a
lot
more
people
live
on.
J
Bryant
then
do
live
on
lindale
and,
potentially
you
know,
live
without
cars
more
on
brian
than
they
do
on
lindelof
and
need
that
transit
more.
They
do
on
lindell.
Now,
I'm
not
saying
placing
it
is
wrong,
but
what's
the
best
affirmative
case
for
moving
for
moving
transit
to
lindale
and
grand
here,
a
few
routes
in
exchange
for
the
you
know
for
the
you
know
accepted
improvements
on
on
bryant.
What
are
we
telling
that?
What
are
we
telling
transit
writers
that
this
is?
This
is
better
for
them.
E
Really
good
question,
so
the
main
driving
factor
for
that
part
of
it
is
that
metro
transit
is
planning
an
arterial
bus,
rapid
transit
route
along
this
section.
So
it's
the
johnson
lindale
route
that
goes
all
the
way
up
through
northeast
minneapolis
and
when
you
think
about
the
amenities
and
the
stations
that
come
along
with
that
type
of
infrastructure,
bryant
avenue,
even
without
a
bikeway,
would
be
extremely
tight
to
try
and
get
in
those
stations.
E
We'd
be
looking
at
just
like
the
the
tightest
possible
design
for
an
abrt
platform
and
the
the
right
way
on
lindale
has
a
much
better,
a
much
wider
width
and
more
room
to
work.
So
the
other
things
that
we're
doing
is
we're
working
with
metro
transit
to
look
at
transit
signal
priority
as
an
option
along
this
corridor
before
even
arterial
bus,
rapid
transit
would
come
along
so
that
doing
that
as
part
of
this
project
and
looking
into
you
know,
what's
possible
with
that.
E
L
Jump
in
real
quick,
this
is
stony
brook
for
mental
transit.
This
is
an
interesting
question
and
when
I
first
moved
back
to
minneapolis
one
that
I
asked
our
service
planners
is
bryant
versus
lindale
service,
and
I
remember
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
destinations
on
lindale,
I
guess
closer
to
lake
street
and
south
of
there.
E
Yeah
thanks
sonia,
and
thanks
for
reminding
me
for
that.
The
second
part
of
the
question
is
that
so
the
distance
between
brian
and
lindale
is
approximately
like
600
feet,
so
it's
two
short
blocks
in
minneapolis,
so
well
within
the
quarter
mile
that
people
are
usually
willing
to
walk
to
local
and
express
service.
So,
yes,
there
are
some.
E
So
there
are
some
specific
blocks
on
bryant
that
have
denser
housing,
but
if
you
look
at
the
entire
quarter
as
a
whole
and
like
the
overlap
that
you're
picking
up
by
you
know,
if
you
think
about
a
quarter
mile
circle
around
each
of
these
stops
right.
You're
gonna
have
a
fair
amount
of
overlap,
given
that
the
blocks
are
very
close.
So
we
expect
that
this
line
to
be
able
to
be
as
attractive
to
people
on
not
as
attractive
as
a
little
bit
of
hyperbole.
Obviously
a
front
door.
C
A
L
Yeah,
this
is
sonya
bristop,
again,
metro
transit.
I
just
want
to
offer
one
additional
sentence
regarding
brt
on
that
route
for
johnson
lindell
corridor
through
the
network
next
planning,
which
was
the
20-year
vision,
metro
transit,
completed
earlier
this
year,
to
really
vision
all
of
the
brt
corridors.
L
K
C
If
I
could
just
interject
for
a
second,
you
know
barb
and
julia.
What
you
brought
up
is
really,
I
think,
interesting,
and
I
would
love
some
time
to
have
some
more
information
for
metro
transit
at
some
meeting
just
about
the
state
of
their
fleet
and
any
plans
that
might
exist
or
timetables
to
switch
from
the
diesel
pushers
to
maybe
the
hybrid
or
a
new
technology,
whether
it
be
hydrogen
or
battery
electric
or
whatever,
just
sometimes
down
the
road.
I
just
I
would
love
to
hear
that
sometime,
but
that.
K
N
My
only
thought
is,
I
just
I
agree
with
the
pack.
I
think
this
is
a
great
project
and
I
do
think
this
is
one
of
the
few
projects
that
we
ever
see
where
it's
like.
Oh,
this
actually
aligns
with
like
transportation
action
plan
goals
and
is
like
trying
to
move
us
in
the
direction
of
the
city's
policies.
So
I
just
wanted
to
thank
liz
and
trey
for
just
bringing
such
a
great
project
to
the
pack
overall.
K
G
One
second:
can
I
just
jump
in
real,
quick,
real,
quick
sure.
Another
thing
is
specifically
liz
and
trey
did
a
great
job,
so
I
know
you
asked
them
what
they
did,
but
I
think
liz
and
trey
were
very,
very
strategic
about
this
and
the
process
that
they
followed
to
help
make
some
of
these
things
happen,
because
none
of
it
was
easy.
G
So
I
agree
with
the
sentiment
the
pack
is
articulating
here.
This
project
is,
is
just
amazing
I
a
year
ago,
I
did
not
think
we
would
get
to
this
point
specifically
the
one
way
protected,
bikeway
separated
you
know,
so
I
just
want
to
say
there
was
some.
You
know
specific
skill
and
perseverance
by
those
two.
J
Yeah
thanks,
I
just
want
to
add
one
more
thing
on
the
on
the
on
the
transit
and
the
distance
too,
without
that.
Maybe
this
is
better
input
at
resolution
time,
but
if
the
pedestrian
priority
network
is
still
exist
or
will
exist,
it
needs
to
be,
it
has
to
attach
itself
to
any
brt
project
quarter
miles
a
quarter
mile,
but
a
quarter
mile
is
four.
It's
four
street
crossings
and
the
fourth
street
crossings.
J
Quarter.
Crossings
in
february
can
be
treacherous
frequently
are
frequently
treacherous,
so
in
moving
transit
off
this
off
the
up
off
this
density
really
dense
corridor.
We
really
need
we.
I
think
we
should
call,
for
you
know
enough,
an
affirmative
management
of
the
the
paths
the
where
people
will
go
to
the
go
to
have
to
go
to
find
transit
and
that's
coming
from
the
from
the
bryan
side
and
the
and
the
grand
side.
For
that
matter.
C
O
D
M
P
P
P
This
bridge
here,
which
I'm
circling,
is
still
in
a
relatively
good
condition
and
has
not
exceeded
its
useful
life
and
will
not
be
re
replaced,
but
this
bridge
here
will
be
replaced.
Just
a
little
bit
of
characteristics
about
the
bridge,
you
can
see
a
cross
section
here,
I'll
zoom,
into
a
google
street
view.
Currently
there
are
two
12-foot
drive
lanes,
two
six
foot
bike
lanes
and
then
a
six
to
seven
foot
sidewalk
on
each
side.
P
We
don't
have
any
actual
biker
pet
counts
on
the
bridge,
but
we
do
have
track
accounts
from
2017
from
pen,
so
just
a
little
bit
over
here,
alpha
pen
and
cedar
and
there's
about
450
pedestrians
and
160
cyclists.
Like
I
said,
that's,
you
know
actually
for
pen,
but
I'm
just
doing
a
little
bit
of
analysis
and
assuming
that
some
of
that
traffic
is
going
across
this
area,
vehicle
volume
on
this
bridge
we
actually
do
have.
We
do
keep
vehicle
accounts
for
all
of
our
bridges
in
the
city.
P
1500
vehicles
a
day,
so
a
very
low
volume
street.
From
from
a
vehicle
standpoint,
especially
in
comparison
to
a
lot
of
our
other
streets
in
the
city,
there
was
no
reported
crashes
along
this
corridor.
In
the
last
10
years
with
mndot
there
was
a
few
crashes
reported
a
little
bit
further
north
within
the
general
vicinity
of
the
bridge.
There
was
not
any
reported
biped
or
vehicle
crashes,
I'm
going
to
go
into
street
view
now
and
just
show
you
kind
of
where
the
bridge
is
at
I'm
sure.
P
Most
of
the
folks
on
this
call
are
probably
well
familiar
with
the
area,
but
still
it's
definitely
worth
it
worth
observing
you
can
see
here.
This
is
the
kind
of
southern
extents
of
the
project.
This
is
morgan
avenue
south.
We
have
not
determined
how
far
to
the
intersection
this
this
project
will
go,
but
we
likely
will
be
reconstructing
a
good
chunk
of
this
intersection.
P
We
have
the
loose
land
trail
here
which
extends
into
bryn
mawr
park,
so
you
can
see
the
loose
line
trail
and
this
map
connects
into
brymar
park
and
also
the
loose
line
trail
on
the
northern
end
as
well.
So
the
this
reconstruction
will
be
maintaining
that
connection
point
we've.
I've
had
a
few
conversations
with
the
park
board
staff
around
this,
and
you
know
it's
definitely
a
critical
connection,
so
we
will
be
maintaining
that
connection
point
and
you
can
see
where
the
bridge
kind
of
formally
ends
with
this
bridge
abutment
here.
P
So
that's
the
southern
side
of
the
bridge
on
the
northern
side.
This
is
where
the
bridge
technically
ends.
We
haven't
defined
exactly
where
our
project
will
conclude,
but
likely
you
know
some
10
or
20
feet
from
here
will
be
concluding
the
project,
and
so
that
means
this
existing
roadway
will
continue.
That
bridge
you
can
see
over.
There
is
not
in
the
scope.
This
existing
area
was
resurfaced
in
about
2010,
2012
and
typically
for
resurfacings,
we
like
to
get
15
to
20
years
out
of
them.
P
So
when
you
look
at
you
know,
cedar
lake
road
as
a
whole,
probably
around
20
30-
is
when
it
will
be
up
for
reconstruction.
It's
not
in
the
six-year
cip
right
now,
so
I
can't
commit
to
any
day
in
terms
of
when
that
will
happen.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
analysis
that
goes
into
our
reconstructions,
but
we
do
know
at
some
time
in
the
future.
P
Cedar
lake
road
will
be
resurfaced
when
it's
reconstructed,
there's
probably
quite
a
bit
out,
and
so
the
treatment
that
we
do
here
will
factor
in
kind
of
and
I'll
honestly,
just
kind
of
set
the
tone
for
that
bridge
and
the
rest
of
the
roadway.
Generally,
it's
on
our
all
ages,
all
abilities
network.
As
a
near-term,
low-stress
bikeway,
you
can
see
the
loose
line.
Connection
point
here.
P
I
think
I've
covered
most
of
the
things
at
a
high
level.
We're
going
to
be
doing
like
I
said,
engagement
in
roughly
october.
We
where
we
would
have
actually
cross-section
concepts
to
share
we'd,
be
coming
back
to
this
group
before
then
to
to
to
get
more
feedback,
abdullahi
and
measure
it.
Do
you
have
any
other
comments
to
add
about
the
bridge
project.
Q
K
G
H
Yes,
so
what
what's
the
condition
or
plans
for
the
other
bridge
on
cedar
lake
road?
You
know
to
me
it's
kind
of
tough.
When
you
you
know,
you're
gonna
have
to
close
that
stretch
and
close
the
access
to
the
loose
line
trail
when
you
rebuild
that
and
then
sometime
in
the
future,
you're
gonna
have
to
rebuild
the
other
bridge
to
the
north
and
then
again
close
access
et
cetera.
So
I'm
just
curious
what
the
condition
is
of
the
other
bridge.
P
Q
Yes,
at
one
time,
the
the
plan
was
to
have
repair
work
on
both
bridge,
so
they
were
kind
of
combined
as
one
and
it's
gonna
be
repair
work.
But
after
looking
into
a
further
analysis,
the
the
bridge
that
we're
working
on
right
now
over
the
dnsf
is
in
a
more
poor
condition
than
the
other
one,
the
the
cp
over
the
cpu
rail,
the
northern
one.
Q
So
then
it
was
determined
that
we're
not
seeing
it
coming
up
anytime
soon
to
do
the
cp
rail,
the
northern
side
of
the
bridge.
So
right
now
it's
prudent
just
to
have
the
southern
bridge
over
the
bnsf
to
be
a
replacement
rather
than
being
a
repair
work.
So
we'll
look
into
that
in
the
future,
but
in
the
next
five
ten
years,
or
maybe
at
least
five
years,
we're
not
seeing
that
the
the
bridging
the
northern
part
is
part
of
a
replacement
at
this
time,
but
yeah.
Q
H
H
C
Let
me
just
interject,
I
think,
oftentimes
we
don't
weigh
in
on
something
with
a
zero
percent.
You
know,
particularly
because
there's
no
cross-sections
or
the
outreach
is
still
to
be
done,
but
just
amongst
the
pac
members
to
memorialize
paul's
comment.
I
think
it
would
be
worthwhile
to
put
it
into
a
brief
motion.
C
C
G
G
Yeah,
so
it's
like,
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
I
think
paul's
comment
makes
a
lot
of
sense
where
it's
like
two-way
just
for
that
section,
and
maybe
what
we
could
explore
is:
could
we
fit
in
a
two-way
just
for
that
part,
but
also
maintain
the
one-way
directional
on
the
book
ends,
so
does
that
make
sense
paul,
like
you
know,
we
want
to
accommodate
the
the
one-way
travel
along
the
whole
corridor
from
glenwood
to
penn,
but
just
in
that
cross
section
between
the
trail
does
that
does
that
make
sense
paul?
H
K
Yeah,
I'm
kind
of
curious
yep.
So
right
now
it's
a
it's
a
pretty
bridge,
especially
if
you
walk
under
it
and
I'm
a
bit
curious
about
what
kind
of
replacement
we're
looking
at,
and
I
also
feel
like
bridges
are
such
special
spaces,
regardless
of
whether
they're
over
railways
or
elsewhere,
and
I'm
wondering
the
pedestrian
space
feels
rather
tight.
K
Is
there
any
way
of
getting
back
lane
bike
lane
so
that
there's
right
now?
It
feels
like
a
car
bridge
and
it
would
be
great
to
have
something
that
feels
more
like
a
place
since
people
often
rest
at
the
crest
of
bridges
throw
in
a
bench
just
treat
it
as
with
the
unique
connection
that
it
has
in
some
way
in
this
full
reconstruct.
P
So
julia
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
the
request
asking.
So
you
know
we
are
definitely
going
to
be
looking
at
bike,
protect
facilities
that
are
definitely
an
improvement
over
just
a
lane
on
the
ground.
So
there'd
be
separation.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
different
treatments
out
there
that
are
starting
to
become
more
popular.
Are
you
talking
more
about
improving
the
bike
facilities
or
the
pedestrian
facilities?
Specifically,
you
mentioned
the
bench
I
just
just
kind
of
want
to
better
understand
what
what
your
question.
K
The
space
feels
very
car
and
it
doesn't
need
to
have
to
if
we
can
get
the
bike
lane
up
to
our
grade.
It
changes
the
perception
of
that
space,
even
if
it
doesn't
change
the
use,
so
it
also
might
help
slow
drivers,
and
since
I
know
that
lanes
tend
to
be
wider
on
bridges
as
well
and
then
separately,
a
bench
would
be
awesome.
I
would
love
to
see
benches
as
not
just
to
default
around
the
city,
but
particularly
on
bridges.
P
I
I
totally
hear
you
on
the
comment
about
keeping
the
bike
lane
and
pedestrian.
You
know
area
at
the
same
grade.
That's
definitely
something
we're
exploring
in
terms
of
the
bench
question.
I'm
actually
kind
of
curious
about
measured
measure
abdullahi's
perspective.
I
just
I've
not
been
involved
in
a
project
on
our
bench,
so
I
just
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
experience
around
that.
But
it's
it's
an
interesting
comment.
Q
Usually
it's
more
of
we
usually
get
that
with
a
landscaping
type
of
projects
to
to
have
some
bench,
but
the
idea
is
of
the
bridge.
I
would
assume
that
would
be
the
case
either
side
of
the
the
bridge.
I
guess,
but
no
I
haven't
had
any
other
bench
on
a
bridge,
but
something
that
we
could
look
into
it.
I
guess,
but.
J
K
P
P
Think
of
like
the
franklin
avenue
bridge-
or
you
know
the
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
lake
mark
or
marshall
bridge
with
the
bridge
that
goes
over
the
mississippi
river
from
lake
street,
to
marshall
avenue
in
singapore,
and
they
have
these
kind
of
cut
out
spaces
that
are
really
nice.
So
yeah
we've
been
bringing
into
our
engineering
group
that's
working
with
us
on
yeah.
They
think
about.
Q
Yeah
well,
one
thing
to
consider
is
that
on
bench,
when
it's
a
longer
bridge-
maybe
for
a
view
purpose
or
to
rest,
but
this
is
like
140
feet
long
at
this
time
and
we
have
not
determined
how
the
span
will
be
this
time
we
could.
It
could
go
narrower
too,
so
we're
still
in
development
right
now.
So
it's
it
is
not
a
long
bridge,
just
a
140
right
now,
so
it
could
be
even
a
bit
less
path
too.
So
something
to
do
well.
K
P
M
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
to
the
branches
on
bridge
perspective,
one
of
my
favorite
bridges
in
the
twin
city
goes
over
35w
and
marcy
holmes
on
fifth
avenue
southeast.
It's
a
pedestrian
bridge,
it's
not
a
motor
vehicle
bridge,
but
they
actually
put
their
benches
on
the
side
of
the
bridge,
which
is
nice,
because
then
you
can
look
at
the
bridge
and
all
the
traffic
going
by
it's
kind
of
exciting.
So
I'm
all
for
benches.
On
bridges.
I
think
I
wanted
to
just
reiterate
the
point
of
pedestrian
safety
on
bridges.
M
I
think
one
of
the
places
I
feel
most
unsafe
as
a
pedestrian
and
as
a
cyclist
is
going
over
bridges,
and
I
think
drivers
have
a
tendency
to
speed
over
bridges
because
it's
easy
to
speed
over
bridges.
I
do
it
myself
too,
and
because
of
that,
it
just
feels
like
everything
gets
so
crammed
and
fast
on
a
bridge
so
again
just
trying
to
reiterate
that
safety
component
of
if
they're,
going
to
be
bicycle
lanes
and
more
pedestrian
friendly
design
on
bridges
such
as
these.
I
like
to
second
that
idea.
So
thank
you.
C
And
if
I
just
can
echo
that
you
know
bridges
with
the
different
temperatures
that
they
are
than
the
roadway,
I
think
they
present
a
unique
hazard
in
minnesota
during
winters.
They
freeze
easier.
Obviously
we
all
know
that
so
I
think
anything
to
really
diminish
car
speed
as
they're
going
over
something
that
is
possibly
more
frozen
than
the
road
they've
been
driving
on
for
40
minutes
or
something
is
warranted
just
from
a
safety
point
of
view.
When
you've
got
you
know,
even
in
winter
you're
going
to
have
cyclists
and
pedestrians.
A
C
C
O
Thank
you,
she's
gonna
be
me
today,
so
he
wasn't
able
to
make
it
good
good
evening.
Everyone,
my
name
is
mike
samuelson,
I'm
a
transportation
planner
with
quick
works.
Ceo
pronouns-
and
I
am
here
today
to
present
on
the
phillips
traffic
safety
project.
We
are
at
zero
percent,
so
kind
of
similar
to
the
last
project.
I've
got
a
very
short
presentation
and
then
just
looking
forward
to
conversation,
questions
comments
about
the
project.
O
So
the
the
area
that
we're
covering
here
is
across
four
different
city:
neighborhoods,
there's
three
three
that
bear
the
phillips
theme:
phillips,
west,
midtown,
phillips
and
east
phillips
and
then
also
the
ventura
village
neighborhood
and
we're
also
across
four
different
streets.
So
we've
got
24th
street
26th
street
and
28th
between
35w
and
hiawatha
avenue
and
then
a
short
part
of
chicago
avenue
as
well,
and
you
can
see
the
the
goals
listed
here.
O
This
project
is
primarily
focused
on
improving
traffic
safety
and
so
we're
focused
on
reducing
vehicle,
speeding
and
car
crashes
and
doing
so
looking
to
improve
traffic
safety
for
all
users,
but
particularly
those
who
are
walking
and
biking,
and
you
can
see
a
little
bit
on
the
schedule
here.
I'll
just
note
that
since
I
submitted
this,
we've
gotten
some
internal
comments
that
you
know,
construction
may
also
go
into
2024,
so
we're
just
starting
the
project
engagement.
Now
we've
got
our
first
couple.
O
So,
just
starting
engagement
now
and
kind
of
expecting
engagement
to
extend
through
probably
towards
the
end
of
next
year,
as
we
come
up
with
some
designs
and
concepts,
and
I'm
looking
to
do
some
of
that
more
detailed
engineering
later
in
2022
and
then
going
into
2023.,
so
just
a
little
bit
more
about
the
scope
of
the
project
itself.
So
this
is
actually
kind
of
a
combination
of
two
projects
or
two
funding
sources.
O
The
idea
is
to
kind
of
bundle
the
engagement
and
planning
for
these
projects
together
kind
of
look
at
these
streets
as
a
network
and
think
about
how
we
want
to
make
improvements
for
traffic
safety
across
all
these
streets.
Now
this
is
a
retropit
project,
so
it's
not
a
full
reconstruction
like
the
bryant
project.
O
That
was
presented
earlier,
so
we're
looking
at
more
likely
spot
improvements
at
particular
intersections,
and
you
know,
maybe
we'll
have
some
some
sort
of
longer
quarter
long
improvements
in
terms
of
our
bikeways,
specifically
on
26-28,
but
just
want
to
know.
This
is
a
retrofit
project,
not
not
fully
construction
and
then
just
a
couple
other
pieces
to
kind
of
set
the
table
here.
O
So
all
four
of
these
streets
are
designated
as
high
injury
streets
in
the
vision,
zero
action
plan
and
all
four
of
the
streets
are
also
on
both
the
pedestrian
priority
network
and
the
all
ages
and
all
abilities
bikeway
network
in
the
town,
and
so
just
a
couple.
A
couple
slides
here
to
just
kind
of
note,
some
of
the
treatment
options
that
we've
used
on
similar
kinds
of
projects
in
the
past,
because
we
are
just
going
out
and
starting
our
engagement.
O
Now
you
know
we
are
looking
to
hear
from
residents
on
you
know
what
intersections
are
their
priorities
for
improvements
so
kind
of?
Where
should
we
be
focusing
and
then
also
kind
of,
what
are
the
issues
that
they're
seeing
or
what
are
the
treatments
that
they'd
like
to
see?
So
these
are
just
some
kind
of
examples
to
show
you
what
what
might
happen
so
bump
outs.
I
think
probably
most
folks
on
the
call
here
are
familiar
with
these.
We've
got.
You
know
them
in
many
locations
on
the
city.
O
We've
got
an
example
here
on
the
top
of
the
signal
and
on
the
bottom,
without
a
signal
we
also,
you
know,
medians
again
a
fairly
common
treatment
here,
spot
improvement.
This
one
is
is
shown
on
a
street
with
a
bikeway,
so
you
know
could
be
a
an
option
for
a
street
like
26
or
28,
to
both
short
and
crossings
for
pedestrians
and
also
potentially
provide
some
additional
buffer
between
vehicles
and
bikes,
and
then
we
have
our
kind
of
standard
bikeway
curb
and
again.
C
Thank
you
mike,
and
I'm
just
going
to
just
jump
in
and
ask
a
sort
of
a
threshold
question
before
we
get
specific,
you
mentioned,
there's
two
funding
sources:
does
the
receipt
of
the
federal
money
come
with
specific
requirements
or
limitations
that
you're
working
within?
I
sometimes
I
hear
that
you
know
it's
it's
very
specific,
but
I
don't
know
that.
Is
there
something
about
that
money
that
is
would
be
good
for
us
to
know.
O
Yeah,
so
without
getting
too
much
into
details,
essentially,
when
you
receive
federal
dollars,
there's
more
documentation
required,
and
so
you
have
to
kind
of
go
through
different
processes
to
show
that
you're
not
violating
certain
federal
laws
in
use
in
the
project.
So,
for
instance,
one
one
thing
I
know
you
have
to
do
is
you
have
to
look
at
connections
to
parks
and
make
sure
that
you're
not
like
destroying
park
land
or
infringing
on
parkland?
O
So
you
know
for
a
project
like
this
that
that
shouldn't
be
an
issue,
but
it's
still
something
you
have
to
document.
So
you
might
hear
you
know,
project
managers
talking
about
kind
of
not
wanting
to
get
federal
funds
involved
and
that's
because
it
does
make
it
more
expensive
and
can
lengthen
the
process
to
deliver
a
project.
So
we
kind
of
have
to
balance
that
out
with
the
fact
that
we're
also
getting
more
money.
A
Yeah
one
thing
that
I
looked
at
the
map
and
saw
and
see
on
the
map
that
you
have
a
number
of
places
highlighted
like
the
edison
school
and
the
children's
hospital,
and
I
wanted
to.
I
don't
know
if
you
probably
are
aware
of
this-
that
they're
also
two
early
learning
centers
on
18th
a
block
off
cedar.
A
One
is
on
right
on
the
corner
of
between
24th
and
25th,
the
early
learning
center
for
phillips,
and
there
are
lots
of
children
in
that
young
children
preschool
and
tyler
aged
children
and
then
at
the
corner
of
25th
and
18th
is
another
early
childhood
place.
Both
southside
family
nurturing
center,
which
I
used
to
work
at,
and
they
also
have
many
young
children.
So
there's
a
lot
of
school-age
kids
and
some
of
those
that
are
walking,
but
a
lot
of
those
early
learner.
A
Early
learning
centers
have
older
kids,
walking
kids
to
school
and
walking
kids
home
from
school.
I
know
south
side
transports,
but
there
are
some
kids
that
walk
home.
So
it's
just
something
to
be
aware
of
when
you're
planning
safety,
because
preschoolers
and
toddlers
and
young
kids
leading
those
kids.
We
have
to
really
be
aware
of
their
safety
in
that
neighborhood,
because
there's
so
many
young
children.
C
I
Hi,
I
just
want
to
say
I
was
a
resident.
I
I
still
own
property
there.
I
live
by
anderson
school
on
10th
and
if
you
could
focus
or
bring
up
that
intersection,
28th
and
10th,
a
lot
of
people
are
driving
to
the
hospital
and
they
don't
they're.
Turning
from
a
one-way
onto
a
two-way,
they
cut
the
corner,
they're
heading
down,
they're,
going
on
10th
in
the
wrong
lane,
it's
very
poorly
striped,
so
that
would
be
an
intersection.
I
Also,
that's
a
highly
walked
intersection
for
kids
going
to
anderson
school
and
then
there's
a
ywca
inside
abbott
as
well,
so
to
go
along
with
barb's
point:
there's
tons
of
kids
little
kids
walking
around
in
that
area,
and
then
you
also
have
the
greenway.
So
you
have
a
lot
of
people
crossing
28th
to
access
the
greenway
and
that's
between
that's
like
in
the
alley
between
10th
and
11th.
So
just
some
heads
up
on
bikers
and
walkers
and
poor
traffic
turning
striping
on
the
road
from
28th
to
10th.
O
Great,
thank
you
yeah.
That's
that's!
Actually,
one
of
the
few
intersections
in
on
these
corridors
that
doesn't
have
kind
of
newer
signals
as
an
ada
compliant.
So
for
us,
that's
you
know,
anytime.
We
see
a
an
intersection
that
doesn't
have
ada
compliance,
that
kind
of
flags
for
us
so
definitely
a
priority
here
and
then
to
make
improvements.
Kind
of
beyond
just
upgrading
the
range
yeah.
I
I
O
H
H
O
We
did
get
some
counts
this
spring.
I
just
got
them
in
actually
earlier
this
week,
so
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
look
at
them
and
sort
of
see
what
the
latest
speed
numbers
are.
But
I
know
just
kind
of
anecdotally
that
we
have
seen
an
uptick
in
speeding
across
the
city
if
I'm
expecting
that
to
be
the
case
here,
but
I
don't
have
numbers
quite
yet.
As
far
as
another
percent
of
people
driving
above
the
steep
moment.
H
H
G
C
C
B
Yeah,
I
have
a
quick
question.
Paul's
question
kind
of
covered
some
of
it,
but
I
guess
what's
left
is
more
of
a
comment.
I
live
in
whittier,
so
on
24th
street,
on
the
other
side
of
35w
and
24th
26th
and
28th
of
all
had
work
and
changes
in
the
past
few
years,
and
I
just
know
that
24th
street
now
is
feels
much
less
safe
and
there's
more
traffic
and
higher
speeds.
B
B
Well,
none
of
the
treatments
that
you
have
laid
out
here
were
implemented
on
24th,
but
bike
lanes
were
added
and
it
was
resurfaced
so
I'm
I'm
just
you
know,
I
don't.
I
wasn't
on
the
pack
when
that
when
that
happened,
and
so
I
don't
know
what
the
goals
were
at
that
time,
but
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
you
know
24th
on
the
west
side
still
feels
very,
very
dangerous,
and
just
to
keep
that
in
mind
on
this
side.
N
Okay,
yeah
to
jump
in
this
is
abigail
on
that
part
of
24th.
I
live
on
25th
and
like
they
removed
parking
on
24th
and
just
put
in
like
like
single
stripe,
gutter
bike
lanes
and
in
doing
so
essentially
just
like
widened
the
lanes
on
24th,
because
not
many
people
biked
on
24th
and
so
removing
parking
was
like
removing
natural
bump
outs
like
natural
chicanes
of
the
random
parked
car.
N
You
know
in
and
out
and
so
yeah,
so
that
version
of
24th
like
actually
it
did
may
24th
worse
like
so,
and
the
bike
lanes
aren't
like
great
or
protected.
So
it
doesn't
help
anything
so
yeah.
Just
just
considering
that
when
you
do
24th
on
the
east
side
that,
like
that
version
of
24th,
wasn't
great
so
to
just
kind
of
learn
from
that
mistake.
C
J
Well
not
implemented,
yet
we
we
saw
a
north
lindell
safety
improvement
project
very
recently
that
we,
we
thought
a
whole
lot
of
and
to
the
extent
that
can
be.
You
know
that
there's
similarities
with
this
long
straight
stretch
of
24th
street.
You
know
if
it's
it's
it's
two
ways:
it's
a
long
stretch
a
few
interruptions
the
extent
you
know
we
there's
there,
there's
inspiration
there.
I'd
encourage
everybody.
O
O
K
Yep
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions
and
I'll
throw
them
all
out
there
in
any
order.
I'm
curious
about
returning
the
full
26th
and
28th
to
2a.
My
understanding
is
that
the
one
ways
were
initially
intended
to
be
temporary
and
it
definitely
seems
like
the
fact
that
it's
two
ways
contributes
a
lot
of
dangerous
issues
for
people
walking
and
biking,
and
specifically
one
of
the
ones
that
I
run
into
a
lot
on.
K
26
and
28
is
when
I
am
walking
against
the
flow
of
traffic
on
where
drivers
have
a
right
turn
to
turn
onto
the
streets.
They
do
not
look
back.
I've
had
a
lot
of
near
misses
there
when
I've
had
right-of-way,
regardless
of
what
I've
done.
It's
just
it
seems
to
without
better
drivers.
It
just
seems
to
set
people
up
for
not
being
considerate
of
other
people
around
and
it's
dangerous
and
delays
you
when
you're
trying
to
get
places
and
I've
had
I've
been
threatened
for
crossing
the
street.
K
I've
gotten
into
altercations
from
drivers
who
are
really
aggressive.
I've
called
out
to
drivers
they'd,
see
me
and
scared
them,
and
that
feels
awful
too.
I've
had
one
driver
turning
right
onto
26,
from
whichever
one
south
bound
park
or
portland.
Whichever
is
the
street
there
who
almost
hit
me.
She
was
so
terrified.
I
was
so
terrified
and
I
had
full
right
of
way.
She
was
turning
right
on
red
when
I
made
it,
you
know
when
we
both
apologized
we're
both
very
very
alarmed
and
then
suddenly.
K
I
was
in
the
middle
of
the
street.
I
had
it's
huge
swaths.
There
were
cars
coming
at
me
and
I
no
longer
had
the
light
and
it
was
nighttime.
So
there's
just
like
it
just
feels
like
the
whole
stretch
of
one
way,
and
one
ways
to
one
way
is
asking
for
trouble.
Second
question
point
thing
is
each
of
those
streets
where
they
intersect
with
park
in
portland
are
awful.
K
I
I
hate
crossing
those
all
the
time,
they're,
just
a
high
stress,
like
less
likely
to
go
to
anything
the
more
I
have
to
cross
them
and
then
specifically,
the
28
signal,
there's
a
new
highway
exit
from
northbound,
whatever
35w
or
whatever
it
is
on
to
28th
and
the
way
that
it's
the
last
time
I
looked.
It's
unclear
that
there's
going
to
be
any
pedestrian
crossing,
let
alone
on
both
legs.
It's
a
t
intersection.
There
should
be
both
leg
crossing.
K
The
way
that
it's
set
up,
it
looks
like
there
may
be,
neither
even
though
it's
a
one
way
on
to
one
way,
so
there's
one
leg
that
will
never
have
conflict
for
a
pedestrian
crossing
there.
So
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
take
a
look
at
that
and
make
sure
that
we're
getting
our
all
legs
of
every
intersection
crossing
and
maybe
make
mndot
pay
for
that
if
they
messed
up.
So
those
are
my
three
questions
comments.
O
Great
thank
you
yeah.
I
I'll
start
with
the
last
one
and
just
say
I'll,
look
into
the
the
new
intersection
at
28th
and
kind
of
the
the
off-ramp
leg
to
see
what
the
the
final
plane
is.
There
it's
a
little
unclear
to
me
with
the
larger
I-35w
project
if
that
project
is
complete.
Yet
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
work,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
that
phase
is
complete,
so
I'll
look
into
that
there.
K
H
O
Okay
and
then
yeah
definitely
no
noted
the
the
concerns
around
park
and
portland.
I
think
probably
a
lot
of
folks
know
that
those
are
county
intersections
and
we
have
approached
the
county
about
trying
to
make
upgrades
to
those
intersections
at
the
same
time
and
and
try
and
do
it
in
a
way
where
we're
both
partnering
on
funding.
So
we'll
we'll
continue
those
conversations
and
then
also
just
noted
the
comment
about
returning
these
to
two-way
streets.
O
If
that
could
be
part
of
the
project-
and
I
guess
that
this
also
just
kind
of
reminds
me
there's
a
similar
question
for
the
the
bridge
project
that
this
happened
in
terms
of,
if
you
wanted
to
write
a
resolution-
and
you
know
my
thought
on
that
is
we
certainly
don't
need
one
at
this
point.
If
you
want
to
kind
of
like
memorialize
any
of
these
comments
in
a
resolution,
you
know
we'd
be
happy
to
accept
that.
So
just.
K
O
Would
a
resolution
be
helpful
for
approaching
the
county?
Is
that
what
you're
asking
yeah
it
certainly
wouldn't
hurt?
I
don't
think
it's
necessarily
going
to
move
the
needle
a
whole
lot,
but
I
think
it's
more
just
in
terms
of
if
the
committee
or
the
subcommittee
as
a
whole
just
wants
to
kind
of
put
all
these
comments
down.
In
writing.
I
mean
I've
been
taking
notes,
but
you
know
make
sure
that
you've
kind
of
got
everything
clearly
expressed.
Then
a
resolution
is
the.
I
would
say
the
clearest
way
to
do
that.
C
I'm
going
to
ask
a
question:
you
know
that
that
last
comment
regarding
the
the
county
intersections
and
I'm,
if
I'm
reading
you
correctly
at
least
there's
not
a
lot
of
enthusiasm
from
the
county
to
do
anything
about
it.
At
least
at
this
point,
do
you
have
an
opinion
on
whether
that
is
just
purely
a
financial
decision
on
behalf
of
the
county
that
that's
in
city
minneapolis
they're
not
going
to
spend
any
money
on
it
or
is
there
something?
C
O
C
A
C
C
C
A
All
right,
I
will
be
working
on
the
resolutions
for
these
three
things
that
the
memorializing
some
of
these
comments
and
the
resolution
for
the
bryant,
so
julia.
If
you,
if
you
you
were
really
clear-
and
I
was
writing
as
fast
as
I
could.
But
if
you
could
email
me
your
concerns
about
this
last
project,
that
would
be
really
helpful
and
then.
C
Well,
obviously,
barbara
is
carrying
all
the
water
on
this
as
I'm
sort
of
getting
my
feet
wet
as
a
co-chair.
So
thank
you,
barbara
and
thank
you
everyone
else
for
coming.
I
think
we
don't
need
a
motion
to
adjourn
when
we
complete
the
agenda
items
so
with
that
I
wish
everybody
a
a
good
evening
or
afternoon.