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B
All
right
good
afternoon
welcome
to
the
regular
meeting
of
the
police
conduct
oversight,
commission
audit
subcommittee
for
december
27th
2021.
B
I
am
jordan
crockett
and
I
am
the
one
of
the
commissioners
on
the
subcommittee
as
we
begin
I'll
know,
for
the
record
that
this
meeting
has
remote
participation
by
members
and
city
staff
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13b
021
due
to
the
declared
local
public
health
emergency.
B
This
meeting
will
be
recorded
and
posted
to
the
city's
website
and
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
public
access
and
transparency.
This
meeting
is
public
and
subject
to
the
minnesota
open
meeting
law
at
this
time.
I'll
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role,
so
we
can
verify
quorum
for
this
meeting.
C
B
All
right,
let
the
record
reflect
we
have
a
quorum
cool
and
I'm
gonna
kind
of
stumble
through
a
lot
of
this
here.
So,
commissioner,
sparks
will
have
to
kind
of.
E
D
I'll
I'll
do
my
best,
I
think,
hopefully
we
can
get
through
it.
You
know
runs
with
that
ship.
B
Yeah,
I
know
right
well,
well,
cool,
so
next
on
to
the
adoption
adoption
of
the
agenda
and
acceptance
of
minutes
next
we'll
proceed
to
our
agenda,
a
copy
of
which
has
been
posted
for
public
access
to
the
city's
legislative
information
management
system,
which
is
available
at
limbs.minneapolislimsmn.gov.
B
The
first
motion
is
the
adoption
of
the
agenda
and
acceptance
of
minutes
from
the
meeting
of.
If
it
was
november,
22nd
may
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda
and
accept
the
november
minutes.
B
All
right
well,
will
the
clerk
please
follow
the
role.
A
Commissioner
crockett
hi
commissioner
sparks
hi.
There
are
two
eyes.
B
All
right
motion
carries
and
agenda
is
adopted
in
the
november
minutes,
accepted
all
right
now.
Next
order
of
business
is
the
acceptance
of
public
comments,
I'll
open
the
floor
and
invite
comments
from
the
community
will
limit
the
public
comment
period
to
no
more
than
two
minutes
per
speaker
with
that.
Are
there
any
community
members
on
the
line
who
would
wish
to
address
the
commission?
F
C
F
C
I'm
here
for
my
my
my
meeting.
B
It's
it
might,
it
might
be
the
wrong
wrong
call
there.
The
last
eight
four
digits,
eight
four,
unless,
unless
you're
looking
for
the
police
conduct
oversight,
commission
subcommittee
meeting.
C
F
D
Yeah
so
the
the
subcommittee-
the
audits
I
can
answer-
that's,
commissioner,
sparks
the
audit
subcommittee
is
a
three-person
subcommittee,
so
we
just
need
two
of
three
for
a
quorum
on
the
on
the
subcommittee.
D
B
All
right
all
right!
Well,
I
want
to
thank,
I
think,
all
of
our
speakers
for
their
comments
today.
B
Next
up,
we
will
go
ahead
here
to
unfinished
business
items
from
our
november
meeting.
B
And
we
have,
we
have
a
few,
a
few
items
from
our
november
meeting.
The
first
is
the
no
knock
warrants.
G
So
I
can
speak
to
speak
to
that
update.
If
you
would
like
me
to
perfect,
so
the
legal
analyst
has
continued
to
compile
the
data
on
on
that
that
we
had
talked
about
to
address
those
questions
the
subcommittee
proposed.
G
G
G
The
the
issues
we
identified
was
the
the
data
collection
that
some
of
the
items
were
collecting
arms
in
one
place
and
then,
if
the
subcommittee
had
any
other
additional
recommendations
based
on
the
presentations
that
you've
received
or
the
comparison
that
was
made
between
the
say,
like
no
knock
minnesota
suggestions
and
and
the
current
police
policy
that
you
could
write
that
into
the
report
and
then
it
could
be
presented
so
the
as
far
as
the
timeline
goes.
G
B
B
Do
you
have
any
comments
sparks
or
questions,
commissioner
sparks.
D
B
G
E
Hello,
joel
fussy
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
No,
I
I
was
invited
to
attend
this
meeting.
I
think,
to
address
a
question
that
might
have
arisen
regarding
a
different
item,
so
I
don't
have
any
information
regarding
coaching
or
I
don't
know
what
the
subcommittee's
work
is
on
that
I
do
know
that
I
think
has
been
spoken
to
before
the
city
remains
in
ongoing
litigation
with
regard
to
that
topic,
and
so
I
know
that
as
an
enterprise
we're
not
making
any
real
comment
regarding
that
practice.
D
This
is
commissioner
sparks.
So
mr
band
is
that
study
on
the
coaching
still
ongoing.
I
think
I
I
seem
to
recall
that
we
had
decided
we
were
going
to
still
try
to
pursue
the
study
using
the
data
that
we
had
available.
What
are
you
thinking
on
that.
G
Yes,
so
the
there
is
not
a
study
ongoing.
I
think
what
we
had
talked
about
was
the
the
data
portal
was
was
being
updated
for
some
of
the
old
data,
so
that
wouldn't
be
a
creation
of
of
new
coaching
data.
It
was
just
the
old
data
that
is
available
online.
G
C
B
B
All
right,
thank
you
for
that
that
clarification
and
update
mr
van
is
there.
Is
there
any
more
like
comments
or
anything
on
on
coaching.
D
D
G
D
Right
yeah,
I
understand
that
I
think
maybe
I
mis
interpreted
your
comments,
but
I
think
I
took
it
to
mean
that
what
you
said
initially
is
that
we're
well
we're
not
pursuing
that
anymore.
We're
just
waiting
for
the
portals
to
be
updated,
but
once
the
portals
are
updated
with
the
old
data
the
pre-17
pre-2017
data
are,
we
gonna
is
the
intent
to
pursue
that.
G
Yeah,
well
I
mean
once
the
data
is
updated,
then
it
would.
It
would
certainly
be
available
for
us
to
use
it.
As
a
basis
of
I
think,
what
we
talked
about
previously
was
a
comparison
of
of
different
incidents
which
were
coached.
G
You
know
we
would
have
to
go
through
the
process
with
the
subcommittee
about
setting
out
the
feasibility
of
a
study
and
what
questions
we
would
want
answered,
but
at
the
moment
that
is
kind
of
dependent
on
that
those
data
portals
being.
G
B
C
F
B
C
B
Yes,
yes,
we
we
heard
you,
I
think,
if
you'd
like
to-
and
we
appreciate
you
understand,
but
if
you'd
like
to
be
involved
directly
with,
I
think
some
of
the
the
stats
and
things
like
that
you'd
want
to
connect
with
the
I
think,
maybe
like
the
city
clerk
and
then
they'll
be
able
to
direct
you
to
you
know
any
involvement
with
the
commissions.
D
It
sounds
accurate.
I'd
have
to
defer
to
peggy,
though,
does
that
sound
right
to
you?
Peggy
can
reach
out
to
the
city
clerk
office.
If
they're
looking
to
have
some
involvement
and
you
can
direct
them
to
the
appropriate
resources.
D
D
F
A
C
B
All
right-
and
I
I
think,
we'll
move
on
to
the
are
we
real
good,
commissioner,
sparks.
B
Cool
next
we'll
talk
about
the
we'll
adjust
mr
fussy,
there
all
right,
deputy
attorney
fussy
and
thank
you
for
attending
and
just
about
the
arbitration,
research
and
study.
E
Sure
yeah,
I
was
I'm
happy
to
attend
and
receive
the
invitation.
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
the
questions
were.
E
I
think
I
got
a
little
bit
of
the
gist,
and
so
you
know
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
say
other
than
I
think
I
have
made
comments
in
the
last
couple:
full
police
conduct
oversight,
commission
meetings
regarding
just
a
caution
or
advice
to
be
wary
of
kind
of
mission
creep
and
to
make
sure
that
your,
I
guess
activities
are
aligning
with
the
authority
that
you're
given
in
the
ordinance,
and
when
I
speak
of
that,
I'm
speaking
of
section
172.80
that
list
under
sub
section
f,
I
think
10
different
things
are
enumerated
in
which
you
know
the
commission
and
the
these
committees
would
have
general
power
to
you
know
to
look
into
into
research
and
to
make
recommendations
regarding
and
certainly
discipline.
E
You
know,
most
of
most
of
what
that
authority
lies
in
is
making
recommendations
and
researching
and
studying
police
policies
and
practices,
and
so
the
I
guess,
the
only
caution
I
would
have
with
this
arbitration
issue.
Is
you
know
to
ensure
that
any
any?
E
E
This
is
not,
you
know
a
lot
of
all
of
the
decisions
once
it
goes
to
a
grievance
or
an
arbitration
process.
That's
a
city
attorney
office
function
and
we
have
a
couple
hr,
attorneys,
labor
attorneys
in
my
office,
that
that's,
you
know
what
they
do
and
that's
their
kind
of
exclusive
jurisdiction.
So
to
speak,
and
so
I
I
would
just
caution
that
you
know
I.
I
don't
think
this
committee
or
this
commission
is
charged
with
reviewing.
E
You
know
the
legal
decisions
or
strategies
or
practices
that
the
city
attorney
the
later
attorneys
for
the
city
undertake
with
regard
to
arbitrations,
but
if
there
are
other
topics
that
are
kind
of
implicated
by
this,
this
topic
that
do
fit
within
your
general
authority,
which
is
to
look
at
police,
specific
policies
and
procedures.
Then
by
all
means
it
would
be
right
for
you
to.
You
know
to
try
to
do
whatever
you
might
want
to
in
terms
of
looking
into
it
or
making
any
recommendations.
E
So
that's
kind
of
the
only
the
the
general
you
know
advice
that
I've
been
giving
lately.
I
know
people
are
spread,
thin
and
resources
are
spread
then,
and
it
looks
like
the
commission
is
kind
of
ramping
up
and
and
starting
to
look
at
a
lot
of
different
topics
which
is
fantastic.
E
You
know,
of
course,
but
then
you
also
have
to
be
be
cognizant
of
making
sure
that
you're
sticking
within
your
authority
and
that
you
aren't
getting
spread
too
thin,
so
to
speak,
so
that
would
only
be
kind
of
the
general
advice
that
I
would
give.
But
if
there
are
other
specific
questions
that
you
have
you
know,
I
can
certainly
look
at
that
as
well.
D
That's
one
of
the
thanks
sister
fussy
for
talking
to
us
about
that.
I
I
did
have
two
specific
questions
that
I
remember
we
we
had
for
you.
If
that's
okay,.
D
So
I
don't
know
so.
These
are
arbitrations
I'll,
throw
a
link
in
the
team's
chat.
Our
previous
meeting
agenda
had
five
or
six
of
them.
I
think
there
were
10
total
that
we
were
asked
to
look
at
by
chair.
Sarah
there's,
you
know
there's
five
or
six
of
them
in
the
in
our
previous
meeting
agenda.
D
So
if
you
open
the
meeting
agenda
and
click
on
any
any
of
them,
you'll
notice
that
there's
a
fair
amount
of
redactions-
and
we
had
two
questions
about
the
redactions
was
one
can.
Is
it
possible
for
us
to
get
access
to
if
we
want
to
look
at
them
and
do
a
little
bit
of
a
study?
Is
it
possible
for
us
as
a
subcommittee,
to
get
access
to
unredacted
versions
of
the
documents.
E
The
way
that
you
know
that
the
city,
the
enterprise
has
interpreted
the
data
practices
act
and
our
responsibilities
is
that
you
are
entitled
only
to
you
know
the
summary
and
aggregate
data
that
members
of
the
public
would
be
entitled
to.
So
no,
I
don't
think
it
would
be
possible
to
get
private
data
based
on
the
committee
level
or
the
commission
level,
and
that's
been,
you
know
the
long-standing
practice
with
the
city.
A
couple
things,
however,
and
I
think
chair
sarah
probably
referenced
it.
E
Some
of
these
arbitration
decisions,
like
unredacted
versions,
are
out
there
on.
You
know
the
on
some
other
websites
or
on
the
arbitration,
the
state
arbitration
website,
and
that
can
be
for
a
couple
of
different
reasons.
It
could
be
that
the
officer's
counsel,
you
know,
released
it
voluntarily
to
the
media
or
for
some
other
purpose,
and
it's
just
gotten
out
there
into
the
into
the
world.
E
It
also
could
be
that
from
what
I
understand
is
for
a
while,
the
the
state
arbitration
office
actually
interpreted
the
data
practices
act
a
little
more
openly
or
broadly,
and
so
I
think
some
fuller
decisions
got
put
on
their
website
now
from
what
I
understand
from
our
data
people
and
our
responsible
authority
and
our
our
council
is
that
you
know,
although
we're
not
able
to
give
we're,
only
able
to
give
the
public
version
that
we
think
is
in
accord
with
the
law.
E
If
there
are
other
versions,
more
fuller
versions
out
there,
you
know
obviously
that's
there
and
that's
something
you
can
look
at
if
it's
in
the
public,
if
it's
in
the
public
realm
and
so-
and
I
don't
know
how
many
there
are.
But
I
know
that
on
some
of
those
I
think
there
are
more
public
versions
that
are
out
there,
so
it
might
be
that
you're
able
to
get
more
full
decisions
in
that
manner.
D
D
Certainly
seen
that,
so
I
appreciate
it.
The
related
question
that
I
had
was
does
opcr
have
the
ability
to
look
at
though
or
another
body
to
look
at
unredacted.
You
know
if
we,
as
a
committee
can't
does
another
department
have
the
ability
to
look
at
them
conduct
the
study
write
the
study
without
publicly
disclosing,
but
using
that
redacted
information.
E
Well,
I'd
say
in
general,
I
don't
think
at
least
the
way
that
it's
been
interpreted
consistently.
Is
that
the
way
the
ordinance
exists?
Right
now
is
that
the
commission
members
are
not
whether
it's
at
the
commission
as
a
whole
or
a
subcommittee
are
entitled
to
the
public
data
and
not
to
any
private
personnel
data.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
would
be
possible
in
another
guys
or
in
another
composition
of
commissioners.
D
Not
I
guess
I
mean
city
employees.
E
I
mean
I
don't
know
which
city
employees
and
then
they
wouldn't
be
able
to.
You
know
it'd
be
kind
of
a
odd
setup
because
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
speak
of
or
reference
any
of
the
actual
personal
personal
data
in
there.
So
I
don't
know.
If
that's
you
know,
I
guess
I'd
have
to
have
more
specifics
on
that,
but
I
don't
know
if
that's
even
really
a
possibility.
E
It
comes
down
to
whether
that
person
is
themselves
authorized
to
view
non-public
data,
and
certainly
there
are
many
individuals
within
the
enterprise
that
do
have
more
greater
access
to
data.
But
I
don't
think
that
they're
going
to
be
able
to
then
just
kind
of
use
that
status
to
create
a
report.
That's
going
to
be
available
in
a
more
public
sense,
it'd
be
really
what
walking
a
tightrope.
D
Yeah,
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
just
asking
what
I
what
the
questions
that
came
up,
but
I
I
think
I
see
what
you're
saying
so,
an
individual
with
opcr
or
human
rights
or
somebody
might
be
able
to
access
unredacted
information,
but
what
they
make
available
as
the
result
of
that
could
not
it
couldn't
be
in
conflict
right.
It
would
still
have
to
only
be.
E
Put
out
there,
as
I
mentioned,
my
office
employs
two
attorneys
who
are
labor
attorneys
and
they,
you
know,
have
extensive
experience
in
doing
these
arbitrations
and
grievance
arbitrations,
and
I
don't
know
what
their
comfortableness
would
be
in
terms
of
just
talking
to
you
as
a
committee
or
a
commission
with
regard,
probably
not
with
regard
to
specific
cases,
but
they
might
be
open
to
kind
of
speaking
to
their
experience
with
these
the
processes,
what
they
might
recommend.
What
are
the
hang-ups
that
they
see?
E
What
do
they
think
is
preventing
maybe
the
outcomes
that
they
want
to
see
in
all
cases.
You
know
there
are
questions
like
that
that
they
might
be
able
to
address.
I
can't
promise,
I
just
don't
know
you
know
what
they'd
be
able
to
share,
but
it's
it
certainly
might
be
worth
at
least
reaching
out
and
seeing
if
there's
that's
a
discussion,
they
they'd
be
able
to
have
with
you
on
any
level.
D
Okay,
I
appreciate
it,
that's
a
good
idea
and
yeah.
It's
like
you
said
it's
it's
tough
with
these
questions
too,
especially
if
somebody
and
I
can
see
that
we
have
different
interpretations,
but
it's
a
tough.
You
take
a
personal
risk.
You
know,
if
you
step
over
the
line,
the
way
these
things
are
written,
then
I
wouldn't
want
anybody
to
take
a
personal,
legal
or
professional
risk
just
so
we
have
a
little
more
information.
I
appreciate
that
yeah.
So,
okay,
so
I
appreciate
it.
D
I
I
don't
feel
the
need
to
reach
out
to
those
attorneys
at
the
moment,
but
it's,
but
it's
it's
a
nice
option
to
have.
If
we
sort.
D
B
All
right,
if
there's
no
more
discussion,
we
can
move
next
on
to
discipline,
research
and
and
study,
and
I
believe,
is
this
chris
as
well.
That
has
an
update.
G
I
don't
have
one
I
can
think
of
specifically
right
now.
Can
you
remind
me
of
what
the
what
the
question
is
about
discipline.
B
So
I
I
don't
have
a
specific
question
there,
commissioner
sparks
do.
You
have
any
notes
on
discipline
specifically.
D
G
So
if
there
is
a
a
study
that
you
wanted
to
propose,
then
then
we
can
put
that
on
the
list
to
go
through
the
process.
For
that
again,
you
know
all
the
questions
are
the
feasibility
of
the
study,
the
available
data.
G
If
discipline
is
imposed,
the
data
does
become
a
bit
more
public
so
that
that
would
be
helpful
in
that
I,
I
guess
you
know
the
the
conflicting
issue
would
be
where,
if,
if
the-
because
I've
heard
this
question
raised
before
where,
if
some,
if
something
is
coaching,
then
it's
not
discipline,
and
I
think
it's
been
mentioned
before
that
part
of
that
would
be
looking
at.
You
know
what
gets
coach
versus
what
is
discipline.
G
There
will
be
a
difficulty
in
that
area,
but
as
far
as
the
discipline
goes,
I
I
believe
that
is
available
on
our
data
portals,
so
be
kind
of
what
the
study
wants
to
address.
D
I
I
seem
to
remember
that
we
had
some
discussion
about.
We
wanted
to
be,
maybe
maybe
focused
on
the
outcomes.
There
was
a
concern
that
there
might
be
disparate
outcomes
in
the
discipline
process.
Yeah.
I
don't
quite
remember
where
we
left
off
on
that.
It's
might
be
something
we
might
want
to
say
for
when
cherokee
now
is
back.
C
G
G
Look
out
for
that
for
any
any
future
of
study
proposals.
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
chris
er,
oh
mr
band,
all
right!
Well,
we
have.
We
have
actually
we've
made
it
through.
So
if
you
reach
the
end
there
is
there
any
other
discussion
there,
commissioner,
commissioner,
sparks.
B
A
Do
you
want
me
to
put
in
the
minutes
that
the
discussion
on
these
items
has
continued
to
your
next
meeting
or
just.
D
I
think
we
I
I
almost
sort
of
feel
like
we
should.
We
should
mark
them
all
as
continued.
The
next
meeting,
they're
gonna
have
to
come
up
again,
anyways
for
sure.
B
All
right
and
with
that
pet
peggy,
do
you
do
you
have
any
other
comments
or
questions
or
anything.
B
Sounds
good
all
right!
Well,
happy
new
year,
everyone
or
happy
holidays.