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From YouTube: June 14, 2021 Animal Care and Control Advisory Board
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B
All
right,
so
we've
got
next
thing
on
our
agenda.
Here
is
the
update
on
the
animal
safety
net
program
rollout.
So
I
will
do
my
best
to
make
sure
I
cover
everything
I
know
caroline
wanted
to
cover.
I
was
going
to
talk
most
of
this
anyway,
so
we
have
again
continued
to
expand,
continue
to
research
and
do
different
things.
So
we've
been
doing
we
just
kind
of
started
last
month
or
so
a
found,
a
foster
program
so
folks
that
are
finding
animals
in
the
fields.
B
If
they're
willing
to
foster
said
animal,
we
will
we've
been
figured
out
a
way
to
put
it
into
chameleons.
So
we
can
track
that
that
animal
is
here
with
us
or
under
our
care.
So
to
speak,
it's
on
our
website
to
show
versus
just
a
found
report
on
pet
harbor
or
other
places,
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
stray
hold.
B
If
they
have
not
been
able
to
reconnect
with
an
owner,
they
can
have
first
rights
to
adoption,
and
then
we
set
up
an
appointment
for
them
to
drop
off
to
spay
neuter
or
whatever
one
one
was
already
actually
spayed.
So
we
just
get
all
that
taken
care
of
once
they're
ready
to
rock
and
roll
they
adopt
and
we
have
been
waiving
the
adoption
fee.
The
only
thing
that
they've
had
to
pay
for
is
a
license
at
the
time
of
the
adoption
been
successful.
So
far,
it's
been
a
little
more
labor
intensive.
B
It
was
little.
Staff
was
a
little
hesitant
when
we
first
rolled
this
out,
and
we
talked
about
why
you
know
other
groups
are
doing
this
type
of
program.
Why
it's
beneficial
to
staff.
In
general,
I
mean
from
everyone
from
field
staff
to
care
staff
we're
not
having
to
go
pick
up.
Animals
and
impound
them
they're,
not
in
the
shelter
less
animals
for
us
to
have
to
care
for
all
those
different
things.
B
People
are
a
little
worried
about
it,
but
when
it
came
down
to,
ultimately
people
are
already
doing
this
without
necessarily
telling
us
about
it.
You
know
they're,
finding
an
animal
I
mean
if
I
found
an
animal
could
hold
on
to
it.
I
sure
I
sure
would
you
know
and
no
one
would
be
worried
about
it
or
whatever
you
know,
and
so
we
finally
talked
to
people
about,
got
them
kind
of
go.
Okay
and
then
it
went
from
being.
Everyone
was
hesitant
to
holy
crap.
B
I
came
back
to
like
a
handful
of
animals
and
found
a
foster
and
had
to
do
follow-up
calls
and
get
appointments
set
up
and
follow
in
and
you
know,
have
you
found
an
owner
know:
okay,
you
want
to
adopt
the
app
cool
like
let's
get
all
this
set
up,
so
it
has
blossomed.
We
with
that
we
also
kind
of
simultaneously
rolled
out
more
expanded
our
like
foster
to
adopt.
So
it
was
done
on
a
very
rare
occasion
before
and
now
we've
had
multiple
instances
of
people
being
interested
in
a
particular
animal.
B
Maybe
they
weren't
the
finder.
But
we've
had
a
couple
since
we
now
have
9-1-1
dispatches
our
officers.
They
hear
about
a
lot
of
our
calls.
We
had
a
baby
chick
of
all
things
that
was
picked
up
by
its
lonesome
a
little
baby
chicken
and
this
gal
really
wanted
to
adopt
it
and
it
was
on
story
hold,
so
she
took
it
home
and
fostered
it
and
adopted
it
at
the
end
of
the
straight
hold.
We
didn't
have
to
have
it
in
the
shelter
she
had
the
equipment
to
care
for
it.
B
You
know,
and
it
was
a
foster
to
adopt
situation
and
same
with
another
gal
from
the
police
precinct.
She
works
in
the
I
think,
their
hr
or
something
she's
adopting
or
fostering
to
adopt
a
dog
from
us
right
now,
and
so
we've
expanded
that
and
gotten
animals.
You
know
either
out
during
stray
hold
or
even
post-surgery
or
whatever
the
case
is
and
really
have
been
flying
with
our
foster
stuff
more,
which
has
been
pretty
cool
but
time
consuming.
For
me
trying
to
think
and
we'll
say
we
have
right
now.
B
We
have
one
dog.
Excuse
me,
two
dogs,
in
our
safety
net
program
as
far
as
in
foster,
so
we
have
a
long-term
one.
That's
still
miss
josie
with
her
puppies
and
the
puppies
are
adopted.
The
veteran
that's
been
in
there
he's,
hopefully
getting
an
apartment
in
the
next
few
weeks
here,
so
hopefully,
after
about
eight
months,
we'll
be
able
to
reunite
him
with
his
dog.
B
But
we
have
another
gentleman.
That's
dog
is
in
foster
care
right
now
with
a
super
awesome
older
couple
that
signed
up
over
a
year
ago,
with
their
emergency
thing,
I've
just
been
plugging
in
people
and
filtering
out
what
they
said
they
could
foster
and
reaching
out
going
he's
still
interested
and
nine
times
out
of
ten
they've
said
yes,
and
if
it
fits,
we've
been
getting
them
set
up
with
a
foster
but
trying
to
work
on
getting
it
where
we
have
a
more
on
deck
type
system.
B
So
it's
not
individually,
each
animal
or
time
I'm
having
to
reach
out
and
go
okay.
You
said
you
could
do
kittens
like
all
right.
I
need
kitten,
fosters
where
it's
more
you've
now
all
had
kind
of
the
basic
orientation
or
whatever
you
know,
training
type
information,
at
least
provided
all
that,
and
you
know
we
can
get
paperwork
on
file.
We've
pared
it
down
to
it's
like
a
one-time
sign
for
a
foster
versus
every
time.
You
have
to
sign
your
life
away.
B
B
Get
them
you
know
what
do
they
have
to
offer,
so
we
already
know
about
it.
How
can
we
link
it
better
hi
chris
hi
there
we
have
been
having
her
also
go
through
like
looking
up
different.
What
other,
like
homeless,
shelters?
Do
we
have
in
this
city
what
or
in
the
county
what
other
programs
or
other
places
you
know,
are
there
and
trying
to
make
more
contacts
and
neighborhood
groups,
and
things
like
that?
B
Since
it's
migrated,
some
info
has
been
lost
or
put
in
a
different
place,
we're
trying
to
make
sure
it
makes
sense
and
really
is
user-friendly
and
really
helpful
to
folks
when
they're
trying
to
find
resources
or
different
things
like
that,
I
think
there's
we
are
still
doing
a
low
cost
vaccine
appointment,
so
that's
still
been
keeping
us
fairly
busy.
We
have
very
regular
requests
for
appointments
for
that
people
coming
in
and
getting
their
just
temporary
rabies
microchip
and
then
licensing
that's
been
ongoing
and
successful.
B
Yes,
not
really
change
so
much,
that's
still
part
of
it.
It's
still
the
only
thing
that,
with
some
of
the
forms
that
we've
gotten
from
other
groups
is
we've
kind
of
shifted
it
to
the
only
thing
that's
on
there
is
like
it's
like
a
72
hours
to
get
if
they're
not
already
in
a
program
which
was
before
they
had
to
be
in
a
program
already
they're,
not
already
in
a
program,
it
gives
them
like
72
hours
to
get
some
sort
of
resources.
B
You
know
that
to
help
them,
because
the
big
thing
is
making
sure
that
they
are
doing
things
to
obviously
help
themselves,
and
that
way
we
can
help
them
with
the
pet
peeves,
and
you
know,
get
them
and
the
pet
away
from
the
dangerous
situation
that
they
might
be
in.
So
I
think
that's
about
the
only
piece
I
mean
it's
still.
B
A
lot
of
the
situations
are
case
by
case,
as
far
as
like
what
it's
hard
to
define,
obviously
sometimes
what
someone
needs
or
how
we
can
help
them
and
how
it
fits
into
what
we're
doing
we
haven't
had
as
many
requests
for
I
mean
granted.
It
was
always
somewhat
few
and
far
between
I
felt
like
for
domestic
violence
type
requests.
B
We've
definitely
had
more
on
the
side
of
owners
in
the
hospital
or
or
this
gentleman
is
facing
homelessness
and
trying
to
find
it.
He
has
never
had
that
or
a
job
issue,
and
this
came
up
all
the
same
time
and
had
nowhere
to
live
and
keep
his
dog
safe,
and
things
like
that,
and
so
it's
kind
of
been
case
by
case
too.
Just
what
what
fits
you
know
are
they?
What
are
they
doing
to
get
themselves
in
a
better
situation,
and
can
we
then
support
the
pet
side
of
it?
B
And
you
know:
how
can
we
work
with
that?
You
know
animal
humane
society
has
opened
up
or
started
some
also
community-based
assistance,
different
things
like
they
have
their
clinic
and
some
other
stuff,
so
they're
doing
stuff
too.
So
that's
pretty
cool
they're
actually
listening.
I
think
to
what
people
have
said
as
far
as
is
really
needed
in
the
area
and
have
been
able
to
refer
some
folks
to
utilize
like
their
clinics
for
specialty
stuff,
because
they
do
it
on
a
sliding
fee
scale
now
and
have
full
vet
services
and
different
things.
B
We've
really
taken
more
into
the
as
they
call
it
now,
instead
of
return
owner
return
to
home
initiative
and
done
more
as
far
as
okay,
what
what
will
it
take
to
get
this
pet
back
in
the
home?
If
we
feel
it's
a
you
know,
obviously,
a
home
that
is
safe
for
the
animal
if
there's
not
a
concern
of
welfare
or
something
like
that,
I've
really
been
going
okay.
What
what
can
we
do
to
get
your
pet
back
with
you?
B
We
had
a
gentleman
who
had
just
had
major
brain
surgery
had
a
traumatic
brain
injury.
His
dog
had
someone
was
watching
it
for
him.
It
got
out.
He
had
a
hard
time.
Finally
figured
out,
you
know
connected
all
the
dots
got
about
and
he
couldn't
afford.
Hardly
anything.
So
he
was
able
to
we
cut
a
deal
and
literally
was
like
licensed
and
rabies.
We
had
him
pay
for,
and
otherwise
we
waved
all
the
kennel
fees
and
stuff
to
get
the
dog
home
and
he
was
so
happy
and
that
you
know
it
was
an
older
pity.
B
It
they've
been
with
him
his
whole
life
all
this
stuff
and
we,
I
think
he
had
some
minor
medical,
but
nothing.
You
know,
but
it
was
like
he
was
going
to
be
a
hard
replacement
for
us
also,
and
he
was
thriving
in
his
home
and
was
a
very
nice
dog.
You
know
so
different
things
like
that
has
been
really
the
push
that
we've
been
you
know.
Keeping
with
is
what
can
we
continue
to
keep
these
animals
in
their
home
and
continuing?
B
Also
with
the
managed
intake
with
summer
hitting
it's
gotten
a
little
busier
with
the
people
showing
up
at
the
door
with
different
stuff,
we
have
a
crazy
run
on
bunnies
right
now.
I
have
no
idea
why
people
are
dumping
their
domestic
bunnies
outside
we're
literally
at
five
right
now,
but
we've
been
able
to
have
more
conversations
with
folks
about
you
know.
Why
are
you
you
know,
surrendering
your
pet
or
do
you
feel
like
you
need
to?
D
D
About
the
about
the
programs
that
you
have
as
far
as
the
fostering
and
fostering
to
adopt
and
the
is
fostering,
I
think
that's
super
helpful
and
I
know
you
guys
are
like
buried
in
paperwork
right
now,
trying
to
figure
it
all
out,
but
once
you
get
into
the
groove,
I
think
hopefully
it'll
make
it
a
lot
easier
for
you,
and
I
know
it's
going
to
be
less
stressful
on
the
animals
and
more
helpful
for
the
city
too.
So
I
think
that's
really
good
awesome
job.
F
B
Experienced
too
much
of
that
in
my
sheltering
years
that
we
see
this
big
uptick
in
easter
and
it's
kind
of
honestly
a
little
past.
The
fact
you
tend
to
I
feel
like
when
groups
have
had
it.
It's
been
close
like
not
as
far
removed
from
easter.
I
think
it's
honestly,
maybe
just
resources.
The
last
ones
that
came
in
this
this
morning
that
I
took
in
were
apparently
dumped
in
a
carrier
in
the
park.
B
I
can't
remember
the
other
ones
where
yeah
we
literally
had,
I
think
two
pairs
and
then
one
singleton
and
we've
had
folks
that
have
just
let
them
they
think
they
are
they
just
let
them
out
thinking
all
rabbits
live
outside.
It's
fine,
but
it's
very
clearly
a
domestic.
They
look
very
different
then,
and
they
are
not
not
equipped
to
care
for
themselves
outside
so
yeah.
I
don't
really
know
why
the
heck,
but
it
seems
like
when
we
get
weird
things
they
do
come
in,
runs
it's
like.
B
B
I
So
one
of
the
things
that
we're
really
struggling
with
right
now,
I'm
sorry
I'm
actually
having
to
do
this
in
my
car.
So
one
of
the
things
you're
really
struggling
with
right
now
is
finding
a
consultant
to
help
us
flush
out
this
program.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
any
suggestions,
partly
because
I
feel
like
it
needs
to
be
somebody
that
is
familiar
with
the
animal
human
support
services
and
there's
just
not
it's
such
a
new
concept.
I
Haven't
we're
just
we
don't
even
know
where
to
post
we
we're
just
kind
of
at
a
loss.
To
be
honest,
I've
reached
out
to
tawny
hammond,
with
best
friends
just
and
trying
to
catch
up
with
her
to
get
some
feedback
best
friends
is
really
caught
up
in
this
animal
human
safety
services
or
I'm
sorry
support
services
and
to
see
if
they
can
help
us.
F
I
I
I
I
Oh,
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
so
that
that's
something
that
we
that's
something
we
could
use
some
help
with
is
figuring
out
that
piece
of
it-
and
I
I
think
this
is
something
the
board-
can
really
sink
their
teeth
into
this.
This
whole
program
really
and
personally,
but
hopefully
you
guys,
are
excited
about
it
too.
D
Yeah,
this
is
one
of
the
most
exciting
like
this
is.
This
is
a
huge
step
for
you
guys,
because
it
is
like
one
of
the
main
components
I
feel
like
mac,
you
know,
could
work
on.
Is
this
foster
component
and
how
to
interact
with
the
community?
You
guys
have
found
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
do
that
over
the
years,
and
I
feel
like
this
is
one
of
the
most
exciting,
like
initiatives
you've
had
so
nice.
F
F
B
F
D
G
E
D
So,
with
just
off
of
this
with
kula
or
I'm
sorry,
is
that
how
you
say
your
name?
Are
you
doing
a
you're
reaching
out
to
homeless,
shelters
and
kind
of
like
making
a
like
making
a
pact?
Or
I
don't
know
you
know
connection
with
them
so
that
they
know
if
they
have
a
person
that
has
an
animal
where
they
need
to
go?
It's
is
that
like?
Is
that
what
you're
doing
or
what's
that.
B
So
right
now,
she's
just
researching
so
far
as
far
as
where,
because
honestly,
I
couldn't
even
tell
you
what
shelters
we
have
in
the
city
as
as
someone
that
works
for
the
city,
I
couldn't
even
tell
you
what
shelters
are
where
they
are
and
my
my
goal
with
her
doing
this
research
piece
on
these
different
shelters
and
like
veterinary
partnerships
and
different
things
like
that,
like
getting
this
kind
of
all
together
and
being
able
to
go
okay,
these
are
the
people
we
need
to
contact.
Neither
a
can
we
support
them.
B
You
know
maybe
help
them
do
they
know
you
know.
Do
they
need
resources
for
people
that
are
utilizing
their
services
like
something
that
matt
can
do
to
help
them
with
their
clientele
and
or
you
know,
help
them
maybe
start
allowing
pets
in
or
you
know
what
I
mean
it's
very
baby
at
this
point,
but
it's
like,
I
don't
even
know
who
those
folks
are
that
might
be
even
contacting
us
or
might
need
to
utilize
our
services
that
go.
B
I
have
someone
that
you
know
it's
negative
30
out
and
they
can
have
a
bed
for
five
nights,
but
they
won't
because
of
their
dog
and
okay,
that's
something
we
can
help
with
like
they
may
not.
Obviously,
since
it's
kind
of
new
to
us
know
that
this
is
a
possibility
or
that
this
is
a
something
that
can
exist
or
that
we
can
make
some
sort
of
partnership
and
figure
out,
is
there
ways
we
can
work
with
each
other
on
and
or
on
the
flip
side?
For
folks
that
maybe
come
to
us
first?
B
Can
we
then
help
refer
them
to
other
places
that
might
have
resources
for
them
for
their
needs?
So
so
far,
it's
been
mostly
just
gathering
that
info
and
she's
only
been
with
us,
since
the
end
of
like
literally
what
the
day
after,
like
memorial
day
or
something
another
week
before
memorial
day
is
when
she
started.
B
So
we're
still
starting
to
gather
that
and
then
the
goal
hopefully
will
be
to
do
some
more
reach
out
as
far
as
okay,
here's
connections
or
here's
people
we
want
to
talk
to,
and
that
might
be
some
from
kula.
It
also
might
be
some
that
then
carolyn
and
I
or
somebody
takes
to
start
making
those
relationships.
Does
that
make
sense.
I
I
I
just
think
it's
going
swimmingly
well
considering
the
finite
resources,
and
I'm
not
talking
about
money,
I'm
talking
about
bodies
to
actually
manage
the
program.
I
think
we're
doing
pretty
good
and
we're
building
something
that's
sustainable
for
the
future.
I
think
just
gonna
take
time
and
the
community
is
embracing
it.
That's
really
that's.
B
B
I
mean
it
could
be
three
to
six
months
and
I'm
like,
even
if
it's
just
part
of
the
time
you
foster
that's
great,
but
they
were,
and
even
a
couple
folks
that
weren't
able
to
help,
but
I
reached
out
about
this
dog,
were
like
this-
is
so
amazing
that
you're
helping
with
us,
like
we've,
gotten
a
lot
of
really
positive
feedback
in
people
that
were
excited
about
this,
and
because
I
was
honestly,
it
was
a
little
hell
with
this
particular
dog.
You
know
I
mean
I
feel,
like
people
have
a
stigma
of
you
know.
B
Well,
why
was
it?
Why
does
a
homeless
person
have
a
dog?
You
know,
there's
people
that
still
think
that
way
and
it's
you
know
I
was
afraid
I
would
get
some
of
that
and
I
have
not
gotten
any.
It
was
just
been.
Oh
my
gosh,
thank
you
so
much
for
being
willing
to
help
this
person
and
their
pet
and
with
the
goal
of
reuniting
them.
So
that
was
that
was
nice,
because
I
was
a
little
worried.
I
I
I
love
love,
I
mean
it
keeps
the
animals
out
of
the
shelter
you
know
they
languish
in
the
system
for
five
to
seven
days
before
we
can
even
do
anything
with
them
supposed
to
put
them
in
our
system
track,
get
them
home,
their
owners,
keep
them
in
the
neighborhoods
they
were
found
in
and
if
that
doesn't
happen,
intensely
bring
them
back
to
the
shelter
sterilize
them
either
allow
the
foster
parent
to
to
adopt
or
put
them
on
our
adoption
floor
without
them
having
to
languish
for
five
to
seven
days.
To
me,
it's
a
win-win-win-win.
B
B
B
E
B
B
B
The
library
went
down
and
I
did
pull
up,
I
have
I
have
to
pull.
I
did
pull
up
some
of
the
info
on
that,
but
I'm
trying
to
remember
if
that
was
also
because
I'm
just
looking
at
our
for
some
of
the
months
we've
been
able
to
do.
You
know
more
adoptions
than
transfers,
but
the
last
few
months
at
least
two
were
flip-flopped.
The
other
way
was
april.
When
we
yes,
it
was.
B
Reasons
for
euthanasia
for
dogs
in
particular,
we
did
have
two
dogs
that
were
destruct
orders.
They
had
viciously
maimed
a
couple
children,
and
so
they
were
ordered
to
be
destroyed
and
we
proceeded
with
that.
So
we
had
those
two.
We
also
had
another
declared
animal.
That
was
not
one
we
felt
we
could
place
out
with
whatever
it
had
going
on.
So
that
was
one
of
the
euthanasias
I
know
in
that
month
and
then
we
did
have
an
owner
intended
that's
on
there
as
well.
B
H
B
And
never
easy,
no,
no
and
then
may
looks
like
we
got
back.
Then
we
start
we
got
a
little
lower
since
we
were
able
to
move
a
bunch
out
in
april
and
then
we
kind
of
started
slowly
going
back
up
in
may
here,
but
again
pulled
back
up
with
a
better
my
release
rates
for
those
months
and
looks
like
we
finally
got
our
adoptions
back
up
in
those
months
after
I
usually
look
at
that-
and
I
forgot
to
when
I
first
pulled
these,
so
it
looks
like
yeah.
D
I
I
D
I
know
that,
like
I
have
had
you
know,
we've
talked
in
the
past
about
like
trying
to
get
the
trying
to
get
the
whole
figure.
I
have
not
had
an
issue
with
it.
It
looks
like
you
guys
have
cleared
up
how
the
records
are,
but
I
can
certainly
look
over
these
ones
and
let
you
know
if
it
seems
as
streamlined
as.
I
I
Yeah,
that
would
be
very
beneficial.
That's
something
I've
been
really
trying
to
make.
Sure
is
right,
because
that's
that's
the
biggest
thing
I
got
out
of
that
whole
fiasco
was
the
disaster.
What
it
looked
like
you
got
us
the
perception.
You
know
what
I
mean
it's
like.
I
knew
I
could
sit
there
and
tell
you
the
story
of
each
animal,
because
I
understood
our
system,
but
if
you
didn't
understand
our
system
and
it
was
pulled,
it
looked
pretty
suspicious.
I
D
I
can
say
that
in
the
past,
like
these
past-
like
not
this,
obviously
not
from
march
on,
but
from
before
that
it's
been
a
lot
more
clear.
The
records
have
been
a
lot
more
clear
as
far
as
this
is
the
behavior
that
the
animal
exhibited.
This
is
why
you
know
we
ended
up
electing
euthanasia
or
having
to
euthanize,
so
it's
it
seems
very
reasonable
to
me.
H
D
B
All
right,
so
I
just
wanted
to
touch
base
on
working
on
the
rescue
meeting
in
a
survey
that
was
obviously
on
my
forefront
for
a
little
bit
there
and
got
a
little
derailed.
I
have
started
making,
or
I
have
made
up
a
smartsheet
survey
to
send
out
to
rescues.
I
didn't,
I
don't
think
I
got
much
feedback
from
you
guys
as
far
as
board
as
far
as
questions
and
things
to
put
on
there,
so
I
kind
of
put
together
what
I
had.
B
D
F
G
B
B
Your
current
pick,
pullers
who's,
the
director
I
mean
we
still
have
some
that,
even
though
I
have
people
to
contact
us
like
they
don't
have
a
director,
they
don't
give
it
back
to
me
or
I
you
know-
or
I
haven't
heard
from
them
in
three
years,
and
then
I
saw
they
get
an
email
and
it's
a
whole
new
person
that
I've
never
heard
of
so
we're
still
struggling
with
that.
That
was
a
big
piece
of
it.
We
definitely
only
had
a
partial
response
to
some
of
those.
B
The
other
piece
that
I
was
thinking
about,
adding
or
maybe
doing
in
a
separate
type
of
thing
would
be.
I
was,
I
have
to
get
a
little
more
info
dive
into
this
a
little
more,
but
I
was
told
that
due
to
our
work
with
the
board
and
train
that
there
are
groups
now
that
won't
pull
from
us
or
even
read
our
emails,
and
I
have
a
feeling
that
has
to
do
with
rescue
drama.
Yes,
but
I
didn't
know
if
that
was
maybe
a
bigger
thing
to
put
out
elsewhere
or
not,
but.
G
I
I'm
reading
the
the
survey
now
and
I
can
send
this
to
you
on
this
side
if
you
prefer,
but
we
did
get
into
a
little
bit
of
information
about
like
their
one
question
says:
how
can
mac
be
a
better
partner
to
you?
How
can
how
can
mac
make
it
easier
for
you
to
say
yes
to
more
mac
animals?
Is
there
certain.
G
B
G
B
G
B
G
Okay,
I
think
maybe
one
way
the
board
could
help
with
that
is.
I
guarantee
we're
not
gonna
get
a
ton
of
responses
via
email,
just
because
a
lot
of
rescue
people
are
already
overwhelmed
with
so
much
to
do.
Yada
yada.
So
I
think
one
helpful
thing
if
you
all
agree
that
it
wouldn't
be
too
intrusive,
is
if
we
could
also
take
the
extra
step
to
reach
out
via
phone
call
to
an
individual
like
either.
G
Start
with
the
email
and
then
maybe
send
a
second
email,
and
then,
if
there's
no
response
to
that,
then
maybe
we
could
make
a
couple
phone
calls
again
just
to
show
like
we
really
care
and
we
really
want
this
feedback
and
we
want
your
involvement
and
this
is
important
to
us.
So
I
know
as
an
intake
coordinator
of
a
rescue.
I
know
that
that
would
probably
get
my
attention.
So,
okay.
G
B
I
know
we
did
attempt
a
while
back
and
maybe
it's
because
it
was
coming
from
other.
It
was
not
karen
and
I
or
whatever
it
was
other
city,
and
we
were
trying
to
get
some
roundtable
discussions
set
up
with
some
of
our
groups
and
a
lot
of
them
either
wouldn't
respond
or
refused
to
talk
so
yeah.
I
was
yeah.
G
Yeah
again,
I'm
not
super
surprised
by
that.
Like
a
lot
of
these
people
are
volunteers,
so
they
already
feel
like
they're
at
their
max
yada
yada.
But
again
I
I
don't
know
if
maybe
we
frame
the
survey
as
coming
from
the
advisory
board
so
that
they
understand
like
hey,
we
wanna
we
want
to.
I
I
don't
know
what
the
better
option
would
be,
but
but
we
wanna.
I
B
Yeah
all
right.
Well,
I
will
send
that
out
then,
to
those
of
you
that
are
looking
at
that
and
then
yeah.
We
can
kind
of
figure
out
from
there.
What
we
think
would
be
the
best
tactics
to
proceed
with
that,
because
that
is
definitely
something
we
want
to
get
back
jump
back
into
and
try
to
continue
to
maintain
and
hopefully
at
some
point
continue
to
expand.
Some
of
our
rescue
partnerships
to
you
know,
get
more
animals
out
of
here
and
really
figure
out
and
leverage
leverage.
B
You
know
the
resources
we
do
have
because
I
feel
like
there's
times
that
maybe
we
are
missing
out,
because
maybe
we
haven't
taken
the
time
to
reach
out
to
a
particular
group
and
I've
been
trying.
You
know:
okay,
it's
a
whatever
type
of
dog,
I'm
gonna
reach
out
to
this
group
because
they
probably
don't
read
our
emails
every
week
because
they
don't
often
see
you
know
this
type
of
dog
or
whatever
you
know
so
trying
to
think
creatively.
But
that
also
takes
some
more
staff
time
in
other
things
too.
B
I
Oh
yeah,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
kept
missing
my
mute
button.
One
of
the
things
I
want
to
find
out
is
how
we
can
get
them
more
engaged
with
some
of
these
more
difficult
animals,
because
that's
what's
getting
that's
what's
languishing
at
the
shell
they're
nice
dogs,
but
maybe
they
have
a
little
bit
of
a
history
or
you
know
they
just
need
a
little
bit
more
work,
they're.
Just
not
this
perfectly
adoptable
dog
right
away.
G
Yeah-
and
I
think
those
will
be
really
interesting
conversations
because
in
the
survey
that
rachel
the
mac
volunteer
did
via
the
mac
play
groups
email.
I
noticed
because
I
also
have
access
to
that
email.
So
I
read
through
a
few
of
the
emails
or
the
responses
just
out
of
curiosity
and
every
single
person
that
response
that
I
saw
said
that
they
will
not
take
an
animal
with
bite
history
just
regardless
of
the
explanation.
G
But
with
that
said,
I
also
was
asked
to
be
on
a
panel
with
a
bigger
group
through
best
friends,
to
talk
about
kind
of
how
we
are
seeing
the
animal
rescue
industry
transform
into
better
live
release
rates.
But
as
a
result
of
that,
these
really
adoptable
animals
just
being
adopted
out
through
the
shelters
and
really
those
foster-based
partners
needed
for
the
quote-unquote,
difficult
animals
right
animals
with
bite
histories
or
or
that
are
a
higher
risk
of
a
bite.
And
I
think
this
is
a.
G
I
think,
it's
really
hard
for
foster-based
rescues
to
have
the
training
support
for
foster
homes
for
those
animals
and
we're
just
not
able
to
keep
up
with
how
fast
the
shelter
industry
is
changing.
So
it's
it's
in
a
way,
a
good
problem,
because
these
animals
are
getting
a
second
chance.
But
it's
also
an
issue
that
I
think
we're
seeing
around
the
us
right
now.
Yeah.
G
Not
I
that's
a
really
good
question,
not
that
I'm
aware
of
I
know
this
is
a
problem
that
we're
struggling
with
at
pet
haven
and
it's
not
it's
twofold
one.
It's
setting
up
a
training
program,
which
means
we
have
to
pick
a
lane
on
what
training
philosophies
we
believe
in
right.
So
we
have
half
of
the
team
who
is
like
nope.
We
only
want
to
do
fear
free
and
then
we
have
half
of
the
team.
That's
like!
G
No.
We
want
to
evaluate
on
the
individual,
dog
and
kind
of
be
open
to
different
methodologies,
so
we're
running
into
that,
but
then,
additionally,
and
the
harder
part
is
finding
foster
homes
who
are
willing
to
kind
of
take
on
the
risk
of
putting
the
work
and
time
into
these.
These
dogs
that
you
know
most
of
them
are
large
breed.
Most
of
them
are
you
know
a
little
difficult.
G
Right
right,
but
I'm
saying
most
foster's
coming
to
us
so
I'll,
give
you
one
example,
and
this
isn't
necessarily
a
normal,
a
normal
foster,
but
the
kinds
of
people
that
we're
seeing
we
had
a
dog
come
from
a
breeding
situation.
It
was
a
golden,
a
purebred
golden
retriever
and
the
foster
who
had
fostered
a
couple
dogs
with
us
said
is
the
dog
leash
trained.
G
My
dog
isn't,
and
I
want
to
foster
a
dog
who
will
leash
train
my
dog,
and
so
that's
what
I'm
working
with
to
some
extent
as
an
intake
coordinator
is,
I
can't
even
get
people
who
want
to
potty,
train
or
leash
train
a
dog
so
teaching
a
dog
to
not
bite.
People
is
like
completely
beyond
their
their
skills.
I
I
G
F
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
when
that
we
also
ran
into
legal
responsibilities
as
well,
what
what
are
the,
what
are
the
ramifications
if
we
place
a
dog
in
a
foster
home
and
then
that
dog
does
bite
someone
or
bites
another
dog
and
we've
had
to
pay
medical
bills
and
things
like
that.
Well,
what
what
happens
if
the
the
foster
home
then
sues
us,
do
you
know
what
I
mean?
F
H
F
B
There's
actually
something
now
that
just
jog
my
memory
kind
of
going
back
to
the
rescue
thing
is.
I
was
and
megan
you
might
be
a
good
one
to
help
me
with
this.
But
looking
I
wanted
to
kind
of
go
back
into
our
history.
You
know
our
archives
here
of
animals
that
we've
had
here
and
some
of
our
challenged
ones
and
do
some
follow-up
with
the
group
that
or
the
group
the
rest,
the
grocery
group
that
took
that
animal.
B
But
if
it
got
pulled
to
see
how
it's
doing,
because
I
have
heard
anecdotally,
some
have
done
fantastic
and
I've
also
heard
some
have
not
done
so
hot
yeah
and
have
bitten
after
they
left
us
or
had
issues
or
have
been
bouncing,
foster
homes
or
can't
be
adopted
or
been
returned
or-
and
you
know-
and
I
would
for
our
knowledge
I
feel
like
that-
would
be
maybe
helpful
on
some
of
these
that
I've
gone.
I
there
was
red
flags
and
I
I
in
my
gut
said
this,
isn't
you
know
probably.
G
He
would
be
just
fine,
whereas
most
dogs
that
I've
seen
show
offensive
aggressive
aggression,
I
feel
like
are
kind
of
in
their
own
world
and
they
tend
not
to
be
rattled
as
easily
by
by
direction
from
a
human.
But
again
for
me,
it's
offensive
or
defensive.
So
if
you
corner
a
dog
and
they
and
they
bite,
you
well,
you
kind
of
you
kind
of
set
them
up
for
it
and
you
kind
of
set
yourself
up
for
it.
G
I
F
E
I
A
I
F
G
Know
for
sure
and
caroline
I
do
want
to
make.
One
final
note:
I
did
like
your
question
about
what
group
is
out
there
to
help
train
people.
I
did
think
of
one
thing
after
the
fact
follow.
If
you
don't
already
dogs
playing
for
life,
they
actually
opened
up
a
canine
center
in
florida
and
I
was
gonna
try
to
get
down
there
down
to
it.
G
So
these
dogs
are
going
from
florida
to
anywhere
else,
and
I
wonder
if
they
might
have
some
opportunities,
yeah
or
just
insights
or
I'm
sure
other
rescue
groups
are
pinging
them,
but
they
are
seeing
really
great
success.
Their
most
famous
one
is
hansel.
He
was
a
pit
bull
with
pretty
severe
bite
history
and
they
ended
up
working
with
him.
So
much
that
he's
now.
An
arson
detection,
dog
and
he's
like
super
famous
so
they've
had
a
lot
of
success.
G
They
are
not
a
fear
free
trainer,
which
some
groups
are
going
to
have
issues
with,
but
they
believe
with
those
more
difficult
dogs.
They
need
a
little
more
structure
and
a
little
more
direction
and
they
use
basically
techniques
on
a
case-by-case
basis
based
on
what
the
individual
dog
needs.
So
I
I
absolutely
love
their
program
and
if
we
could
get
them
up
here,.
I
G
B
B
I
I
It's
it's
a
weird
weird
thing
to
be
in
it's
a
good
place
for
us,
you
know,
but
it
it's
a
little
odd.
It
keeps
politics
out
of
it
and
that's
the
piece.
That's
why
I
want
to
maintain
that
control
technically
kim
appoints.
You
know
I
recommend
and
then
kim
appoints,
and
then
we
send
it
to
city
council
to
our
committee
and
they
you
know,
do
their
thing,
but
it's
not!
You
don't
have
somebody
putting
their
best
friend
on
our
backboard.
That
really
has
no
business
being
on
the
mac.
You
know
what
I'm
saying.
I
Yeah,
so
we
we
just
let
it
you
know,
let
sleeping
dogs
lie.
Sometimes
I
understand.
I
know
that
there's
a
few
people
that
aren't
interested
in
joining
the
board
returning
and
for
those
of
you
that
aren't
I'm
just
cannot
extend
the
amount
of
gratitude
that
we
have.
You
have
made
a
difference,
even
if
you
maybe
feel
like
through
covet.
It's
been
pretty
boring,
probably,
but
if
it
wasn't
for
this
board,
particularly
we
wouldn't
be
where
we
are
with
our
live
release
rate.
I
I
I
H
D
B
B
I
So
if
you
remember
when
we,
when
we
had
a
few
resignations,
we
were
in
the
middle
of
the
shelter
review,
which
I
think
we
probably
should
still
take
up
whenever
we
I
still
want
to
have
best
friends
come
in
and
do
do
that
you
know
physically
actually
be
in
the
building,
but
we
didn't
want
to
upset
the
apple
cart.
You
guys
were
working
so
well
together.
If
you
remember
so,
we
just
didn't
fill
those
positions,
which
is
you
know
fine.
H
I
I
really
know
I
had
moral
support
and
kind
of
held
me
up
when
I
was
about
to
collapse
under
some
of
the
stress,
but
also
I
know
that
probably
politically
a
few
of
you
have
have
jumped
in
the
ring
for
me,
so
I
really
really
really
appreciated
it,
and
hopefully
we
will
keep
reaping
this
reward
and
I
think
we've
we've
laid
the
foundation
for
something
provided.
The
city
doesn't
just
decide
to
get
out
of
the
world
of
animal
control
and
animal
sheltering,
but
I
think
we've
laid
the
groundwork
for
something:
that's
unstoppable.
I
I
My
first
dog
I
ever
picked
up
was
a
feral
and
I
had
her
for
19
years
so
that
dog
gave
me
she
gave
me
the
worst
run
for
my
money
getting
her
on
the
truck
than
any
animal
I've
ever
picked
up
in
the
25
years
that
I
was
out
there
and
daisy
I'll
show
you
all
pictures
and
we
get
there
in
person
bless
her
heart.
She
I
just
got
her
ashes
by
the
way
they
went
through
my
divorce
and
they
got
stuck
down
there
in
virginia
and
they
called
me
like.
I
Do
you
want
the
ashes
of
this
dog
we
cremated
for
you,
I'm
like?
Oh,
my
god,
you
still
have
them
and
I
paid
to
have
them
shipped
up
here
of
this
dog,
but
19
years
this
feral
dog
lived
with
me.
So
that
should
tell
you
so
this
was
a
dream.
Come
true
for
me
to
get
to
this
point,
and
I
don't
think
I
ever
thought
I'd
see
it
in
my
lifetime.
I
I
knew
we
were
building
the
foundation,
but
I
didn't
know
that
I'd
see
it
and
thank
you
guys
for
that
and-
and
I
think
my
staff-
I
don't
think
they'll
ever
gonna-
let
it
go
back
either
and
that's
that's.
What's
really
important.
Is
you
you've
left
a
legacy
behind
here?
You
really
have
really
amazing.
I
D
I
know
that
you
guys
have
some
long-term
like
keepers,
you,
like
you,
have
some
animals
that
stay
there
a
lot
longer
just
because
they
are
harder
to
place,
but
you've
done
an
excellent
job.
Networking
those
dogs
like-
I
can't
I
can't
remember
the
name
of
this
black
black
and
white
dog,
though
yes
monty.
I
I
H
I
B
I
Yeah
we've
even
had
a
few
dogs
that
really
aren't
necessarily
candidates
for
anybody,
but
they're
nice
dogs.
You
know
like
malawas
and
stuff
that
are
just
really
intense.
You
know
and
we've
tried
to
get
them
in
with
police
departments.
I
think
we've
had
some
success
with
that,
but
not
that
really
would
make.
I
mean
they've
got
some
special
talents,
but
there
may
be
a
little
bit
too
intense
for
the
general
public
and.
H
B
I
You,
but
you
know:
what's
amazing
is
minneapolis.
You
know
I've
worked
with
police
departments
that
would
take
they
walk
through
with
a
rag
rolled
up.
Have
you
ever
seen
this
and
you
run
it
past
the
kennels
and
any
dog
that
could
hold
it?
That
would
hold
its
attention
on
it
for
30
seconds.
They
would
take
them.
B
I
Okay
are
in
the
process;
no,
no,
who
are
we
hiring
right
now?
No
we're
opening
up
the
csr
position.
It
is
open,
yep,
that's
open
and
we're
replacing,
although
there's
going
to
be
some
information
that
we
do
need
to
talk
to
you
guys
about,
with
with
regards
to
opening
the
shelter
on
the
weekends
I'm
having
my
that's
my.
I
I
I
Oh
yeah,
I
forgot,
we
have
a
second
veterinarian.
Getting
ready
to
get
higher.
Her
name
is
jennifer
ashby.
Is
that
how
she
pronounced
her
last
name
super
nice
girl.
She
she
was
born
and
raised
in
minneapolis
and
north
minneapolis
and
she's
like
ready
to
give
back
to
the
community.
I'm
super
excited
about
her.
I
19Th,
I'm
sorry
danny
julie,
just
distracted
me
with
some
salmon,
but
let
me
just
be
honest
about
it,
but
and
then
my
the
shelter
supervisor
I've
got
I've
created
the
position
of
the
pet
case
coordinator,
but
I've
been
asked
to
hold
off
on
hiring
that
and,
like
I
said
they
want
us
to
do
a
court.
A
consultant
first.
B
I
I
Still
don't
have
enough
staff
as
far
as
keeping
up
you
know
we're
just
it's
hard
to
keep
up,
but
but
we're
getting
done
and
the
hardest.
The
biggest
problem
that
I
see
right
now
with
the
public
safety
initiative.
That's
going
on
mac
is
part
of
that
of
taking
off
some
of
the
calls
that
mpd
is
doing
and
they're
looking
at
expanding
us
to
a
midnight
shift.
I
Seven
days
a
week,
three
ships,
which
is
a
significant
amount
of
officers,
and
I'm
my
concern
is
the
shelter
being.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
those
officers
need
support
staff.
So
that's
the
piece
that
I'm
trying
to
figure
out.
I
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
happen,
but
it's
something
that
they're
talking
about,
because
currently
mpd
runs
about
7
000
calls
for
us
after
hours,
and
these
aren't
the
calls
that
we
we
go
out
on
these.
On
top
of
that,
so
it's
kind
of
a
waste
of
their
resources.
I
I
We
are
currently
in
a
very
stressful
situation.
Can
we
talk
about
stuff
offline,
danny,
no
okay,
so
so,
with
the
officers
being
dispatched
by
9-1-1,
there
isn't
any
officer
in
the
building
on
the
weekends
anymore,
and
it
means
that
there
may
be
just
one
csr
and
maybe
a
kennel
attendant
at
times.
That's
all
that's
in
the
building
trying
to
manage
through
a
saturday,
so
until
we
can
get
that
resolved
the
security
issue
that
we're
dealing
with.
I
We
are
not
going
to
reopen
on
the
weekends,
and
I
know
that's
not
conducive
to
where
we're
going,
but
that's
just
where
we're
at
we're.
Currently
in
a
situation
where
mac
is,
has
some
really
serious
security
threats
and
we're
looking
at
getting
security
guards,
possibly
armed
security
guards
at
mac
24
hours
a
day?
D
I
I
We're
in
a
climate
right
now,
that's
not
very
safe,
we're
in
an
area,
that's
not
very
safe.
There
was
two
homicides
right
across
the
street
from
us.
Just
like
a
couple
days
ago,
we've
been
people
have
tried
to
throw
bricks
through
our
windows.
We
had
somebody
rob
us
a
couple
of
fridays
ago
and
what
we
have.
We
have
two
individuals
that
are
of
serious
threat,
serious
enough
that
the
city
is
actually
considering
the
armed
guards.
D
Okay-
and
it's
like
that's
the-
I
guess,
that's
the
part
that
I'm
like
a
little
bit
surprised
on,
like
the
you're,
probably
more
closed
down
than
you
ever
have
been
before.
As
far
as
you
know,
just
random
people
being
able
to
come
in
and
do
you
know
if
there's
any
security
threat,
so
that's
just
surprising.
It's.
I
B
C
D
I
It
well,
you
guys
was
anyone
in
the
building
yeah,
it's
a
regular
business
hours.
They
had
been
in
there
earlier
in
the
day
and
they
came
back.
The
guy
comes
back
and
he
said
hey.
I
got
my
friend
with
me.
I'm
pretty
sure
his
dog
is
here
and
said
they
let
him
in
because
we're
really
not
turning
people
away
too
much
at
the
time
and
the
guy.
While
she
was
dealing
with
one,
the
other
one,
snatched
the
damn
thing
and
ran
out
the
door.
I
E
I'm
so
glad
that
you
guys
are
are
okay
in
that
situation,
especially
with
how
the
climate
has
been
in
where
your
your
offices
are
where
that
climate
is
that
that
was
the
worst,
that
that
happened,
and
I
definitely
think
armed
guards.
There
makes
so
much
sense,
especially
in
this
climate.
So
I
just
appreciate
you
guys
and
that
nothing
worse
happened,
because
it
is
constantly
in
that
area.
E
I
Is
constantly
we're
in
a
terrible
spot,
and
I
just
I
need
my
staff
to
be
safe.
I
need
them
to
feel
safe.
I
mean,
let's
face
it.
What
the
work
we
do
is
is
dangerous,
inherently
with
some
of
the
people
we
have
to
deal
with,
but
it's
gotten
a
lot
worse.
We
had
a
guy.
This
is
one
of
the
reasons
we're
having
problems.
We
had
a
guy
that
literally
released
his
dogs
on
my
officers
in
the
field.
D
I
It
does
but
one
of
the
things
we
really
do
like
about
it
that
we've
been
considering
anyways
we've
talked
about
it
even
without
this
stuff,
is
that
we
can
now
counsel
people
before
you
company,
you
open
the
door
at
one
o'clock
and
everybody
in
their
brother
shows
up
and
it's
it's
a
mad.
People
were
able
to
walk
out
the
door
dogs
in
their
arms.
Sometimes
I
mean
they've
had
dogs
stolen,
because
we
just
can't
watch
everything.
I
Now
you
don't
have
people
going
in
the
back
in
the
kennels.
You
know
wandering
aimlessly
through
you
talk
about
liability,
you
know
having
people
bringing
animals
out
on
their
own
and
stuff
is
insane
and
then
you
know
we're
able
to
sit
down
and
say
you
know,
let's
talk
about
family
life,
what
is
it
you
know,
you
said:
do
you
do
you
use
a
date?
Do
you
like
to
sit
on
the
couch
or
your
runner?
B
F
B
Z,
we
have
our
multiple
animal
permit.
People
come
in,
I
mean
some
of
them.
Have
you
know
20
cats,
they
need
to
license
and
they
bring
and
they
come
every
year
and
then
they're
got
all
the
people
angry
behind
them,
because
they
have
to
wait
a
half
hour
for
us
to
process
all
that
so
they're
like
we
hope
you
stay
with
this
for
this,
because
it
was
so
much
less
stressful
for
us
and
you
appointments.
B
We
can
call
and
do
some
counseling
ahead
of
time,
especially
with
some
of
the
ones
that
we
know
are
harder.
We
can
literally,
they
are
able
to
then
talk
about
okay.
This
is
what
we
know
like
do
you
have
kids
or
what
you
know
whatever,
where
concerns
might
be,
or
whatever
the
you
know
or
go
hey.
This
dog
is
needing
a
lot
of
training
and
exercising
when
they
go.
Oh,
no,
I
want
one,
that's
you
know
potty
trained
and
leash
train.
Well,
this
is
not
the
one.
B
Let's
talk
about
so
and
so
teal
has
been
doing
an
amazing
job
of
making
sure,
even
though
she
doesn't
get
to
necessarily
always
meet
all
of
them.
She
tries
to
read
up
and
know
about
them,
so
she
can
call
and
go
okay.
This
is
what
I
know
about
these
guys,
and
this
is
what
you're
telling
me,
and
sometimes
we're
able
to
do
that,
even
before
they
walk
in
the
door,
which
is
helpful
because
once
they've
seen
one
and
then
person
half
time
it's
I
love
it,
even
though
it
maybe
isn't
a
good
fit.
I
mean.
B
B
C
Oh
sorry,
I
I
didn't
want
to
cut
in,
but
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
share
some
feedback,
and
I
so
I
get
the
security
concerns.
I
get
the
appointments
and
the
ability
to
to
counsel
which
I
fully
support.
So
I
I
just
want
to
be
sure
I
preface
that
by
so
that
nobody
thinks
this
is
a
criticism,
but
it's
feedback
that
I've
shared
before
so
and
I'm
also
not
speaking
for
the
whole
rescue
community
and
speaking
strictly
for
the
rescue
crew
it.
C
It
is
harder
for
us
because
having
a
limited
amount
of
intake
people
with
being
volunteers
and
limited
hours
available,
I,
like
I
myself,
you
know
this
is
all
that
I
do,
but
my
schedule
is
such
a
nightmare
that
I'm
not
able
to
just
come
by.
I
haven't
assessed
a
dog
since
cove
had
started.
I
mean
I
hate
that
not
being
able
to
come
in
and
just
be
able
to
spend
some
time
in
the
volunteer
room
to
be
able
to
assess
dogs.
C
So
it's
much
more
harder
for
us
to
be
able
to
come
in
by
needing
to
make
an
appointment
like
our
intake
manager.
You
know
works
one
to
five,
so
she
was
able
to
get
there
today
to
pull
a
dog
before
you
guys
closed,
but
she's
she'll
only
tag
a
dog
that
she
feels
confident
that
she's
going
to
be
able
to
take
herself
her
place
because
she
can't
get
in
there
to
assess
the
dog
cats
were
able
to
pull,
because
you
know
again
what
I'm
pulling.
C
Unfortunately,
right
now
are
usually
the
adoptable
ones,
which
I
don't
like
doing,
but
it's
difficult
for
me
to
be
able
to
get
in
there
to
try
to
meet
the
ones
that
are
rescue
only
so
that's
just
feedback,
and
I
will
say-
and
maybe
it's
just
hypothetical,
but
it
does
seem
that
lately
you've
had
more
animals
in
need
from
a
rescue
perspective,
so
maybe
that
is
impacting
rescue's
ability
to
get
in
there
and
take
some.
I
don't
know,
that's
only
my
perspective.
C
I
B
I
B
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
we
can
probably
loosen
up
on
some
of
that
now
with
the
covid
stuff.
I
weekends,
though,
is
still
going
to
be,
I
think,
hard
because,
like
caroline
said,
we
literally
have
right
now
two
shelter
staff
in
the
building.
Maybe
an
officer
that's
bouncing
around
if
we're
lucky
and
they
can't
be
at
the
front
door,
they
can't
be
there
to
buzz
you
in
they
can't
we
just
we
don't
have
the
staff
and.
I
I
C
I
I
D
H
I
B
Yes,
but
if
we
have
batches
versus
one
at
time,
the
bigger
yeah
so
we're
trying
to
figure
that,
because
I
do
not
think
that
is
very
inclusive
the
way
it's
set
up
right
now.
As
far
as
the
badge
like
it's
great
once
you
have
it,
but
that
piece
is
a
big
piece
to
the
volunteer
access
and
it
is
not
an
easy
piece
to
do
for
a
lot
of
folks.
B
B
I
I
Yeah
we
were
lost,
we
didn't
know,
existed
and
people
could
get
in
and
out
of
that
building
and
the
week
all
of
those
were
cut
off
and
it's
been
much
more
secure
to
have
the
volunteers
have
their
own
badge.
That
says,
I'm
a
volunteer
with
a
picture
on
it
than
it
was
to
have
a
bunch
of
visitor
passes.
Now,
if
you
want
to
visit
or
pass
it
back,
you
have
to
give
them
your
first
born
child,
and
you
know
we
put
it
in
a
box.
I
I
I
just
you
know,
there's
just
a
lot
going
on
in
the
city
right
now,
we're
just
trying
to
make
keep
our
people
feeling
safe
and
be
safe
at
the
same
time
and
not
get
caught.
We've
had
a
couple
of
times
where
we've
almost
gotten
caught
in
the
middle
of
drive-bys,
while
the
officers
are
out
there
on
the
field-
and
I
mean
like
literally
they
pull
away
and
somebody
starts
shooting.
I
So
it's
been
just
it's
a
real
crazy
time
right
now,
we're
we're
working
through
it
and
the
city
is
going
to
be
better
for
it,
but
it's
just
a
little.
It's
a
little
difficult
to
maneuver
in
right
now
and
those
of
you
who
are
living
in
the
city
understand
what
I'm
talking
about
so
and
then
they're
wearing
badges
and
stuff,
so
it
just
makes
a
little
harder.
You
know.
Police
officers
aren't
well
liked
right
now
in
the
city.