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From YouTube: July 28, 2021 Bicycle Advisory Committee
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A
Welcome
everybody
to
the
july
28th
meeting
of
the
minneapolis
bicycle
advisory
committee
notice.
This
meeting
may
involve
the
remote
participation
by
members,
either
by
telephone
or
other
electronic
means
due
to
the
local
public
health
emergency
novel
coronavirus
pandemic
personal
to
the
provisions
of
minnesota
statutes.
Section
13d
.021
welcome
everybody,
I'm
glad
you're
here,
I
hope
you're
staying
cool
today.
If
we
could
start
off
with
nelson
calling
the
role
before
we
do
approval
of
the
agenda
in
the
minutes.
C
C
D
C
E
B
B
B
F
B
F
B
E
B
G
H
Millicent
this
is
kyle,
I'm
here
as
well.
I
might
have
missed
it
when
you
said
my
name.
A
Thanks
nelson
anybody,
whose
name
did
not
get
called
for
the
role
that
should
be
added
to
the
roster.
I
This
is
tyler
pedersen.
I
just
joined
moments
ago
and
heard
you
say
that
so
please
add
me.
B
A
Great,
hopefully,
that
is
everybody
welcome
all.
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
our
agenda
and
the
june
23rd
minutes.
A
L
E
D
B
H
F
E
B
B
H
B
B
A
C
Hi
everyone,
so
our
last
5e
meeting
we
had
sasha
cotton
from
the
office
of
violence
prevention
come
in
thanks
to
heather
and
she
did
a
presentation
which
is
included
in
the
minutes
for
today's
meeting.
If
you
want
to
take
a
look
overall,
it's
a
small
but
mighty
department
that
has
a
lot
of
lofty
goals
and
not
enough
money
like
many
other
city
departments.
C
So
I
wish
the
best
for
them
and
they
big
key
takeaway
for
me
is
that
they're
planning
on
doing
a
city
of
minneapolis
wide
audit
and
it
seemed
like
based
on
equity
and
just
kind
of
to
see
where
everyone's
at
within
the
city.
So
looking
forward
to
that,
I
don't
remember
there
was
a
timeline,
but
I
don't
think
they
mentioned
that,
but
yeah
you
can
check
out
those
slides
and
then
it
says
on
our
agenda
that
we
talked
about
tap.
C
However,
we
were
not
able
to
get
to
that
in
the
last
meeting,
but
then
tom
and
ash
talked
about
the
walk
bike.
Rule
audit
and
the
slides
are
also
included
on
our
agenda
for
today
as
well.
If
you'd
like
to
peruse
those
anything
else
that
anyone
wants
to
touch
base
on
at
all.
A
It's
a
very
fast
five-year
sub
community
report.
Thank
you
all
for
those
continuing
discussions,
I'm
sure,
even
though
we
didn't
have
any
actions
today,
it
feels
like
there's
been
a
really
good
building
conversation
month
to
month
at
5e,
so
I'm
excited
to
see
where
those
conversations
keep
going
thanks
thanks
bri
with
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
dan
miller
and
marty
grimes
for
the
engineering
subcommittee
report.
J
We
had
four
projects
come
before
us
at
our
subcommittee
meeting
and
we'll
be
presenting
three
actions
of
those
four
projects,
so
I'll
go
through
a
little
bit
verbally
on
the
projects
in
the
limbs
agenda
you'll
find
both
the
resolutions,
as
well
as
the
documents
that
were
presented
during
these
meetings
and
as
we
go
through
each
of
them
marty
will
follow
it
up
by
reading
the
resolution
for
us.
J
So
the
first
project
that
was
presented
was
the
bryant
avenue
reconstruction
project.
This
is
now
at
30
percent
and
we'll
be
going
before
the
council,
fair
transportation
and
action
committee
fairly
quickly
for
approval.
I
was
presented
by
liz
heyman
and
trey
joyner
of
public
works,
and
this
will
continue
will
enter
into
or
is
in
detailed
design
in
2021
and
they're.
J
Looking
at
a
two-year
construction
period
of
22
and
23
in
two
different
phases,
I'm
not
sure
which
section
is
going
first
or
second
on
that
it
was
primarily
a
recap
of
what
was
presented
at
the
may
bac
engineering
meeting
and
has
been
through
a
well
over
a
year
of
significant
community
engagement
and
design
review
and
has
gone
back
and
forth
between
community
engagement
and
the
bac
and
we've
weighed
in
at
different
times.
J
J
We
also
had
two
other
resolutions,
one
in
january
2021
and
another
in
may
2021
supporting
this
project
and
the
text
of
that
was
included
in
the
engineering
minutes
so
marty.
If,
if
there
are
what
would
the
group
want
to
do?
Should
we
just
go
to
the
resolution
or
do
you
want
to
ask
some
questions?
First,.
D
Okay,
all
right
bryant
avenue
reconstruction,
which
is
at
30
percent.
The
bicycle
advisory
committee
supports
the
bryant
avenue
reconstruction
project
as
presented.
We
support
the
above,
curb
protected
bike,
weight,
greening
one-way
drive,
lane
reconfiguration
and
moving
most
of
transit
from
bryant
to
lindell
avenue.
D
We
appreciate
that
the
bikeway
design
will
consider
striping
consistent
color
and
materials
along
with
tabled
and
marked
intersections,
to
create
a
safe
and
continuous
route.
As
this
project
moves
into
its
detailed
design,
we
encourage
staff
to
continue
exploring
a
10
inch
or
10
foot
minimum
bikeway
to
accommodate
future
anticipated
growth
in
cycling
traffic.
This
project
has
required
balancing
competing
needs
and
the
project
team
deserves
special
acknowledgement
for
its
thoughtful
and
diligent
public
engagement
and
working
through
multiple
ideations.
B
This
is
janice,
you
know
hold
on.
B
Go
ahead,
we've
talked
about
brian
becoming
one
way.
Did
they
say
which
direction.
B
H
I
believe
it's
called
a
converging
one
way
at
46.,
so
I
think
that
what
that
means
is,
I
think,
it's
southbound
from
lake
to
46
and
then
northbound
one
way
from
50th
to
46.
J
That's
correct:
it
shows
up
on
the
second
page
of
the
document.
That's
on
our
limbs,
underneath
the
bryant
avenue
recommended
documents
so.
N
Yeah,
I
I
just
had
two:
maybe
a
language
changes
for
consideration.
The
first
is
where
you
call
it
an
above
curb
protected
bikeway.
I
wonder
if
you,
if
the
committee
would
consider
changing
that
to
either
sidewalk
level
or
back
of
curb.
I
think
that
just
is
a
little
more
self-explanatory,
a
little
more
easy
to
understand
so
just
put
put
forward
one
of
those
and
then
the
other
one
where
it
says,
accommodate
future
anticipated
growth.
N
H
Milson
just
say
raised
is
that
okay,
jordan,
I
I
think
I
saw
nelson.
N
J
O
Yep,
I
just
had
one
tiny
little
punctuation
comment
where
it
says
continue:
exploring
a
10
space
apostrophe.
I
would
just
maybe
adjust
like
how
that's
written
the
yeah
perfect.
Thank
you.
J
A
So
I
did
have
some
conversations
with
folks
living
on
the
corridor
and
was
wondering
if
folks
would
be
amenable
to
adding
a
sentence
around
ensuring
bike
parking
is
on
the
corridor
in
residential
areas.
One
of
the
things
that
we've
discussed
recently
in
other
meetings
is
the
need
to
put
more
bike
parking
in
residential
areas.
A
You
know,
and
brian
as
a
corridor
has
a
lot
of
business
nodes
and
one
of
the
challenges
right
now
is
there's
some
ada
pinch
points
where
people
can't
put
bike
racks
out
in
the
public
right
of
way
because
it
interferes
with
ada.
So
I
have
a
sentence
that
I
would
I
emailed
it
to
millicent
if
millicent
would
be
willing
to
copy
and
paste
it
in.
If
folks
agree
with
that
general
that
concept.
A
At
the
end,
here
at
the
end
of
the
first
paragraph
and
I'll,
read
it
out
loud
once,
you've
got
it
in
there,
okay,
so
the
sentence
reads:
this
reconstruction
project
should
plan
for
and
include
ample
space
for
bark
bike
parking
throughout
residential
areas
along
the
corridor
parentheses
in
its
present
state.
Many
areas
of
bryant
cannot
have
bike
parking
added
in
the
right
of
way,
because
so
much
space
is
given
to
cars
that
bike
parking
would
interfere
with
ada.
J
Requirements
is
there
any
disagreement
with
adding
that.
J
Well,
I
think
we
could
add
it
and
about
any
other
comments
before
we
take
this
to
a
vote.
A
I
have
one
more
comment:
that's
not
on
the
resolution
itself,
but
just
some
information
sharing
for
the
group
that
there
does
appear
to
be
an
additional,
concerted,
organizing
effort
to
get
this
project
stopped.
There's
somebody
who's
been
distributing
flyers
along
bryant
that
are
in
opposition
to
all
the
things
that
we
are
supporting
in
this
resolution.
A
So,
if
folks
can
continue
to,
you
know,
advocate
for
this
project,
I'm
really
glad
that
we're
speaking
up
as
the
bac
to
support
it,
but
any
outreach
that
you
would
want
to
do
on
your
own
to
support
the
project
is
also
welcome
and
could
not
hurt.
J
Okay,
seeing
no
more
comments,
I
think
we'll
take
this
to
a
vote.
Okay,
aaron.
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B
C
C
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N
E
B
L
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B
E
B
D
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D
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B
J
Okay,
the
next
project
that
came
before
us
was
the
cedar
lake
road,
north
bridge
replacement
project.
It's
at
zero
percent,
starting
up.
It
was
presented
by
alexander
cato
abdullahi,
abukar
and
mazaret
mwana
of
minneapolis
public
works.
J
This
is
one
of
two
bridges
on
cedar
lake
road
between
morgan-
and
I
can't
remember
the
other
street,
but
on
one
side
is
the
entrance
to
the
cedar
lake
north
trail.
That
starts
in
burn
mall
park
and
heads
over
to
the
cedar
lake
trail
and
on
the
other
side,
is
the
loose
line
trail
that
goes
through
creek
park.
J
There's
two
bridges:
there's
only
one
being
replaced,
they
looked
at
both
of
them,
but
this
bridge
happens
to
be
a
timber
and
beam
bridge.
You
wouldn't
know
it
by
looking
at
it,
but
it
looks
older
than
the
other
planning
is
happening
now,
design
will
happen
in
2022
and
construction,
2023
they're,
just
beginning
community
engagement
and
hope
to
be
back
to
us
and
once
they've
heard
more
about
this.
J
So
it's
one
of
the
two
bridges
it's
overlooks.
It
goes
over
the
bnsf
trail,
railroad
tracks
and
bassett
creek
itself
between
these
two
bridges
they're
proposing
when
they
do
this
bridge,
remodel,
to
or
bridge
replacement,
to
include
pedestrian
and
bike
access
over
the
bridge
and
the
adjacent
trail
at
morgan.
This
is
on
the
triple
a
network.
We
don't
know
when
future
asphalt.
Resurfing
thing
will
happen.
J
There
have
been
some
improvements
that
have
been
done
near
glenwood,
where
which
was
redone
a
few
years
ago,
while
we're
having
this
conversation,
matthew,
hendricks
brought
up
some
interesting
questions
as
to
whether
there's
analysis
of
possibly
closing
this
bridge
completely
and
just
making
it
a
ped
bike
facility,
and
if
there
are
some
cost
benefits
to
doing
that
over
the
other.
J
So
we
we
talked
about
that.
A
bit
talent,
tyler
pettis
pettison,
noted
that
there
are
bike
pad
improvements
along
bassett
creek,
planned
in
the
bassett
creek
and
north
master
plans,
and
so
that's
exciting
and
at
our
executive
call.
It
was
decided
that,
although
this
is
zero
percent
that
it
might
be
worth
putting
in
a
resolution
that
kind
of
addressed
some
of
the
things
which
matthew
had
raised.
J
So
I'm
going
to
leave
it
at
that
and
ask
if
matthew
would
you
like
to
or
phil
who
basically
drafted
this
do
either
of
you
want
to
add
anything
before
we
read.
E
Matthew,
I'm
happy
to
read
it,
but
do
you
want
to
jump
in
with
a
couple
of
you
were
the
initial
person
who
pointed
this
out
and
I
I
think
a
couple
of
us:
it
sort
of
struck
a
nerve
and
then
we
talked
about
an
executive
committee
and
it
didn't
die.
So
here's
the
the
wording
but
but
maybe
matthew.
You
have
a
initial.
F
The
current
bridge
is
about
or
existing
bridge
is
about
48
or
50
feet
wide,
and
if
it
became
redesigned
and
reconstructed
as
a
pedestrian
bridge,
it
could
maybe
be
about
half
that
width
give
or
take,
and
so
presumably
there'd
be
some
amount
of
cost
savings.
By
doing
that,
and
when
we
asked
public
works,
if
they
had
looked
at
the
two
alternatives,
they
said
essentially
that
they
had
not
analyzed
whether
a
bike
ped
bridge
only
would
work
in
that
location
and
had
not
done
any
costing
on
that
alternative.
F
And
so
the
intent
of
the
resolution
is
to
have
public
works
staff
come
back
to
the
bac
with
what
it
would
cost
to
do,
a
full
reconstruction
and
comparatively
what
it
would
cost
to
do.
A
bike
ped
bridge
instead
and
then
after
that,
I
think
you
know
that
would
open
it
up
to
a
more
informed
discussion
of
whether
it's
worth
the
extra
cost
to
have
motor
vehicles
in
this
location
and
to
retain
that
ability.
F
By
way
of
additional
background.
This
used
to
be
one
of
the
only
ways
to
get
across
the
railroads
and
the
the
creek
in
this
location,
but
some
time
ago
the
van
white
memorial
bridge
was
constructed,
and
so
that
provided
a
better
route
for
folks
who
are
closer
to
downtown,
or,
I
should
say,
a
more
direct
route
for
accessing
everything
south
of
the
railroad
and
creek
there.
F
So,
in
light
of
that
new
bridge
and
the
fact
that
this
bridge
is,
you
know,
being
replaced,
it
just
made
sense
to
ask
the
question
of
you
know:
what's
the
cost.
E
Great,
I
think
we
also
observed
that
average
daily
vehicles
are
around
1500,
which
is
relatively
low
into
a
triangle
defined
by
glenwood,
penn
and
cedar
lake
road-
that's
shifted
over
the
years,
but
it
it
has
more
industrial,
low
density
use,
low
employment
per
acre
usage
and
also
matthew.
You
did
a
little
analysis
of
it
would
take
fewer
than
five
minutes
to
do
the
alternative
pen
to
glenwood
back
and
forth,
as
opposed
to
the
diagonals
syria
lake
road.
E
So
the
so
the
thought
was
to
simply
ask
the
question
see
if
their
cost
savings,
wouldn't
it
be
kind
of
fantastic
to
work
on
a
project
where
money
got
shaken
loose.
Although
funding
streams
we
well
maybe
we'll
learn
about
that,
and-
and
I
think
these
suggestion
from
staff
was
that
the
abutments
work
is
most
of
the
money
and
even
if
you
have
a
narrower,
smaller,
lighter
bridge,
it
might
be
the
same
cost,
but
it
seemed
wise
to
ask
the
question
so
so
that's
where
we're
at
so.
Why
don't?
E
I
read
the
resolution
and
then
any
comments,
questions
amendments
and
then
we
can
vote
so
so
the
motion
is
cedar.
Lake
road
bridge
replacement
at
zero
percent.
The
bicycle
advisory
committee
supports
better
inclusion
of
pedestrian
and
bicycle
access
over
the
bridge
and
to
the
adjacent
morgan
avenue,
loose
line
and
cedar
lake
trails.
Given
the
low
volume
of
vehicular
traffic,
the
quick
alternative
route
of
penn,
two
from
glenwood
avenue
and
the
cost
of
engineering
for
automobiles.
E
The
bac
questions,
whether
a
ped
bike,
only
bridge
replacement
and
the
alternate
auto
road
would
be
feasible
and
cheaper
cost
savings
could
go
toward
other
transportation
improvements
within
the
penn
glenwood
sierra
lake
road
triangle.
The
bac
would
like
to
see
a
rough
assessment
within
the
next
three
months,
including
any
cost
savings
of
a
pet
bike.
Only
bridge
replacement
so
moved
and
a
second.
H
I
can
I
go
comments
as
I
as
I
listen
to
that
when
you
say
the
bc
questions.
I
almost
feel
like
you're
skeptical
versus
oh,
like
raising
the
question
of
is
interested
like
in
the
question
of
what
I
don't
know
did
anybody
else.
Anybody
else
feel
that.
H
Is
interest
is
is
curious,
wants
to
know
would
like
would
be
interested
to
know
something
like
that.
I
don't
know.
What
do
you
all
think
would
like
to
see
an
analysis
of
whether
I
don't.
H
E
F
Consider
then
matthew
dierdell.
Do
you
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
add
a
requested
timeline
for
when
public
works
returns
like
requests?
They
come
back
october
or
november.
H
Thank
you.
I
have
generally
observed
that
adding
specific
timelines
like
that
isn't
isn't
always
maybe
received
as
well
or
whatever.
What
I
would
say
is
you
know,
they'll
come
back.
If,
if
you
want
to
post
30,
I
would
say
that
is
my
point
rather
than
a
specific
month.
F
H
I
agree
I
agree
and
that
and
that
big
that
makes
sense
to
me
to
say
that,
because
otherwise,
the
next
time
you
would
see
them
would
be
30.
So,
yes,
that
makes
sense.
E
Let's
see,
we
have
three
three
others
wesley
deanna,
oh
and.
K
P
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
jump
in
and
respond
a
little
bit
to
this.
I
I'm
struck
that,
like
asking
questioning
kind
of
the
the
cost
effectiveness
like
I
feel
like
we
already
know
the
answer
to
that,
to
build
a
bridge
that
doesn't
that
has
to
support
much
less
weight
is
going
to,
I
would
assume,
is
going
to
be
cheaper.
I
mean
I
could
be
wrong
on
that,
like
not
an
engineer,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
but
in
my
mind
I
don't
think
that's
the
question
that
public
works
should
be
asking
in
this
situation.
P
That
is
that,
so,
if,
if
I'm
getting
the
mapping
right,
this
bridge
is
bordering
two
neighborhoods
bryn
mawr
and
harrison
that
are
very
different
in
terms
of
racial
makeup
and
wealth,
and
all
of
these
different
things,
and
it
seems
problematic
to
me
to
ask
the
question
of
like
oh:
would
it
be
cheaper
to
like
close
off
this
bridge
to
cars
right
recognizing
that
we
like
in
general,
like
I,
want
it
to
be
easier
to
get
around
by
bike
and
walking
and
that
that
requires
trade-off
with
how
we
handle
auto
traffic
in
the
city?
P
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
saying
oh,
it's
cheaper
to
close
this
bridge
to
auto
traffic.
That
happens
to
be
on
one
of
the
most
stark
like
wealth
boundaries
in
the
city.
I
don't
think
that's
the
way
to
do
it,
so
I
would
just
say,
like
I
would
much
much
prefer
if
this
is
a
question
that
we're
interested
in
that
we
ask
public
works
to
actually
talk
to
the
community
about
it.
E
You
know
I
I
do
not
remember
what
the
public
engagement
process
was.
If
it's
even
that
zero
percent
been
mapped
out
again,
2023
was,
I
believe,
the
construction
timeline.
I
you
know
I
just
I
would
sort
of
assuming
there
would
be
that
standard
feedback.
I
think
it
was.
I
think
it
was
the
fact
of
the
the
changing
land
uses
in
the
1500
cars
per
day.
E
But
it's
a
good
point.
I
see
your
points.
P
Well,
and
just
to
add
a
little
bit
on
to
that,
it's
also
in
the
context
of
a
neighborhood
that
to
me
feels
relatively
constrained
in
terms
of
options
for
getting
around
there
already
aren't
like
recognizing
that
the
traffic
is
low,
and
everything
like
that.
I
used
to
have
friends
who
live
in
this
neighborhood.
I
would
visit
it
all
the
time
and
it
feels
like
that.
The
options
for
getting
into
bryn
mawr
in
particular
are
pretty
limited
and
so
like
that.
P
That
adds
to
my
concern
about
asking
that
question
in
this
way
that
and
whether
we
are
being
community
focused
here
or
not,.
J
Yeah
sorry
to
jump
ahead,
but
I
think
that
during
the
alexander's
presentation
that
the
next
step
was
to
be
engaging
with
the
community
and
that
they
would
be
reporting
back
once
they
have
some
of
that
information.
J
I
I
somewhat
took
from
that
that
that
was
going
to
happen
before
30
percent
and
that,
while
some
of
this
lang,
while
wes,
is
bringing
up
some
things
that
you
know
could
get
some
pushback
on
it.
I
think
the
intent
of
what
matthew
was
trying
to
get
at
was
to
you
know
whether
it
was
truly
needed
with
the
glenwood
pen
connection
and
and
whether
we
could
you
know,
strengthen
that.
That
trail
connection
between
that's
there
and
on
on
cedar
lake
north
or
ceiling
road
north.
For
that
matter,.
M
I
think
I
might
have
gotten
some
of
my
questions
answered.
What
we're
saying
is
that
we're
recommending
that
we
actually
close
the
cedar
lake
road
at
that
point
on
boat,
going
in
both
directions.
Correct
I
mean
we
would
close
that
road
to
cars
and
cars
would
have
to
go
and
find
another
way
across
the
tracks.
M
Correct-
and
I
guess
my
question
then
too
was
they're
suggesting
to
build
a
brand
new
bridge
that
would
have
the
kind
of
pedestrian
and
bike
lanes
and
access
that
we
are
requesting
in
every
other
location.
What
is
the
benefit
of
closing
the
road
as
well.
E
You
know
the
the
the
benefit,
I
think
primarily
is
1500
cars,
where
you
have
a
very
much
more
well-traveled
alternative
rate
route
for
cars
that
takes
less
than
five
minutes
and
you're
passing
through.
As
I
say,
this
changing
industrial
land
that
and
and
cost
savings
where
money
could
be
used
to
do
very
specific
things
within
the
the
triangle.
The
those
that's
the
the
thinking.
H
So
so,
let's
forget
about
the
bridge
context
for
a
second,
the
idea
of
restricting
volume
of
motor
vehicles
is
sort
of
an
element
of
optimizing
and
prioritizing
people
that
are
walking
and
biking.
So
that
could
be
like
to
me.
That
would
be
a
if
we
were
to
go
this
way.
That
would
be
a
primary
benefit
like
it
would
be.
H
It
would
become
known
as
a
route
that
is
a
through
route
for
ped
and
bike,
and
they
would
know
that
they
kind
of
have
that
option
and
then,
by
significantly
reducing
volume,
it
would
just
feel
a
lot
more
comfortable
for
those
modes.
So
that's
typically
typically
it's
in
a
bike
boulevard
context
that
we
think
about
volume
control
in
that
way,
but
that
to
me
could
be
a
benefit
that
I
could
articulate
if
we
went
down
this
road.
E
So
maybe
some
some
language
that
adds
that
and
it
seems
like
we
should
also
maybe
add
a
note
about.
You
know
us
assuming
we,
you
know
the
concept
is,
is
viewed
favorably
by
really
people
within
the
triangle.
I
mean
that's
what
we're
talking
about,
but
let's
see
tyler
tyler
who
wanted
to
jump
in.
I
Yeah
yeah,
so
there's
there's
actually,
I
think,
a
really
good
opportunity
here
to
address
what
what
wesley
has
said
and
kind
of
what
we
are
all
kind
of
thinking
about
in
this
this
motion,
and
if
you
know
what
wesley
says
with
you
know,
the
the
the
divide
between
bryn,
mawr
and
harrison
is
is
very
true.
I've
done
several
park
projects
in
both
those
neighborhoods
and
it's
it's
pretty
stark.
The
differences
and
you
know,
does
a
street
actually
connect
neighborhoods.
I
I
would
probably
vote
no
on
that,
but
certainly
park
space.
Does
trails
do
sidewalks?
Do
you
know
those
those?
You
know?
Human
connections
really
do
connect
neighborhoods.
So
if
we
could
look
at
this
rather
than
just
you
know
a
narrow
bike
bridge
going
across
this
and
actually
look
at
a
wider
park,
lid
that
would
go
basically
about
the
same
width
as
a
as
a
as
a
vehicular
bridge
might
be
say:
40
feet,
something
like
that,
just
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
If
that
was
like
a
a
planted
bridge
lid
a
park,
you
might
say
with
with
a
trail
and
a
sidewalk
on
it
that
went
from
basically
the
end
of
bryn
mawr
meadows
park
and
the
loose
line
trail
a
few
blocks
northeast.
I
You
could
close
down
that
and
try
your
street
make
it
like
a
park
and
and
still
have
that
connection
there,
and
certainly
you
know
we'd
want
the
neighborhoods
to
weigh
in
on
it.
But
I
mean
to
me:
that's
that's!
That's
really!
Building
those
connections,
things
that
we're
looking
at
doing
already
across
our
freeways
that
have
divided
us.
You
know
in
past
years,
so
I
think
it's
a
really
great
idea,
this
this
whole
bridge
idea
and
limiting
vehicles.
I
E
B
Okay,
well,
I
was
actually
going
to
speak
to
that.
It
seems
to
me
that
I
was
moved
by
west
said
too,
because
I
don't
really
know
that
neighborhood
and
maybe
what
we're
suggesting
is
all
the
time
when
a
project
is
proposed,
there's
more
than
one
alternative
proposed.
P
E
Sure
so
recast,
as
a
would
like
this
option
to
be
explored
and
presented
as
an
option,
so
the
neighbors
can
compare.
Okay,
let's
see
matthew
and
then
diana.
A
A
H
I'm
not
gonna
be
the
one
to
add
specific
language,
but
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
like
what
I
appreciate
about.
The
combination
of
wes
and
tyler
is
sort
of
articulating
the
benefits
and
like
articulating
a
vision
of
why
it
would
be
helpful
and
kind
of
like
diana's
question
as
well,
so
you
know
whoever's
going
to
do
this
specific
language.
I
think
capturing
that
you
know
like
why
we
think
it
would
be
good
would
be
helpful.
E
M
M
E
That's
actually
my
question
now
matthew.
Do
you
can.
H
I
can
I
respond.
I
I
think
the
the
thing
that
I
find
so
interesting
about
where
we
are
right
now
is.
Is
that
there's
a
lot
of
interesting
ideas
and
nuance,
and
so
perhaps
we
don't
need
to
pass
a
resolution
tonight
because
of
that
I
can
articulate
what
what
we
talked
about
to
the
project
team
and
then,
if
you
know,
maybe
we
want
to
have
this
on
an
agenda
one
of
the
subcommittees
coming
up
to
come
back,
so
we
can
still
get
that,
but
I
think
there's
there's
a
lot
here.
E
And-
and
you
feel
like
the
timeline
would
be
sufficient
to
not
take
this
to
a
vote.
Yeah
yeah,
I
feel
like
we
shouldn't
because
we're
yeah
okay,
tyler
and
then
we
do
need
to
decide
move
on
so
tyler
yeah
you're
on
mute.
J
I
I
So
if
you
just
entertain
me
here
good,
if
it
could
be
the
first
sentence
stays
the
rest
goes
away
and
we
add,
except
for
the
last
sentence-
and
we
add
in
work
with
communities
to
explore
a
non-vehicular
park,
lid
replacement
over
the
railroad
tracks,
something
like
that
and
just
keep
it
super
simple
as
a
an
option
and
making
sure
that
we
we
call
it
a
park.
So
there's
green
space
on
it
non-vehicle.
So
there's
no
vehicles
and.
M
I
Okay,
sorry
work
with
communities
to
explore
a
non-vehicle
park.
Lid
replacement
option.
E
That
certainly
kicks
it
off
is
more
specific.
I
I
like
it
other.
Does
this
capture
the
I
mean
issues
of
engagement,
neighbors
connection.
I
think
that
that
work
works
for
me.
P
It
works
for
me
I'll
echo
that
I
like
this.
I
like
moving
away
from
the
cost
savings
portion,
particularly
because,
like
we
have
you
know
to
some
extent
like
we
have
the
money,
we're
gonna
do
the
things
that
we
do
and
we
like.
Wouldn't
we
wouldn't
go
into
southwest
or
something
like
that
and
say
you
know
down
that
way
like.
Oh,
let's
figure
out,
let's
do
something
different
as
a
cost
savings
measure.
So
I
like
that.
E
Yeah,
you
know
I
I
agree
with
you
wesley,
except
I
absolutely
would
go
into
any
neighborhood
and
talk
about
whether
cost
savings
for
one
project
can
enlarge
the
total
scope
of
what
gets
done
in
the
neighborhood.
So
it's
very
much
about
cost
savings
and
keeping
the
cost
savings
in
the
neighborhood,
because
it's
it
forces
people
to
sort
of
it
challenged
them
just
to
think
about.
Can
we
get
more
from
the
dollar
being
spent?
E
But
but
at
this
point
I
I
totally
agree
we
don't
we
don't
need
to,
but
it
really
is
an
issue,
it's
easier
for
me,
but
I
mean
yeah.
I
guess
I
think
I'm
more
used
to
working
at
at
the
gross
city
level,
with
cities
across
the
state
where
it's
always
about
the
money
and
if
you
can
find
the
savings
you
get
the
project
done
or
you
get
more
projects.
But
in
this
case
I
like
this.
A
Can
I
just
the
second
sentence
is
like
a
fragment?
Can
we
say
we
request
that
public
works
work
with
communities?
A
No,
no,
I'm
sorry!
That's
the
thing!
Yeah!
So
read
the
bicycle
advisory
committee,
sports,
better
inclusion
of
pedestrian
and
bicycle
access
over
the
bridge
and
to
the
adjacent
morgan,
ave,
loose
line
in
cedar
lake
trails
and
then
right
after
that,
we
request
that
public
works
work
with
communities
to
explore
a
non-vehicle
park.
Lid
replacement
option
over
the
railroad
tracks.
I
A
E
Okay,
well
thanks
everyone
for
sticking
with
us
here,
okay
hearing
know
the
comments.
I
think
we
should
move
on
to
the
votes.
Listen
call
the
role
you
ready.
L
M
B
I
C
F
F
N
L
K
F
J
Everyone,
okay,
the
next
one,
next
project
is
the
philips
traffic
safety
project
at
zero
percent.
It
was
presented
by
by
mike
samuelson
minneapolis
public
works,
and
this
is
going
to
begin
engagement
in
planning
and
will
happen
in
21
and
22,
with
the
expected
engineering
and
construction
to
happen
in
2023.
J
J
Safety
improvements,
safety
issues
with
the
24th
and
cedar
intersection
were
discussed
by
this
group,
and
this
may
be
addressed
by
meant
future
mndot.
Improvements
involved
for
hiawatha,
24th,
26th
and
28th
are
all
on
the
triple
a
network.
J
J
However,
again
at
the
executive
call,
we
discussed
a
resolution
and
one
was
prepared
for
that
and
marty
will
read
it
for
us.
D
Okay,
here
we
go
phillips
traffic
safety
project,
zero
percent,
the
minneapolis
bicycle
advisory
committee
supports
improving
bicycle
facilities
along
24th,
26th
and
28th
avenue
south
that
will
be
considered
for
this
project
as
well
as
expanding
green
space
along
28th.
J
And
any
discussion,
I
know
that
cadence
had
brought
up
the
concern
about
35w,
okay,
wesley.
P
K
Just
maybe
for
more
context,
the
28th
street
bridge
over
I-35
was
reconstructed
as
part
of
the
transit
access
project
and,
of
course,
like
engagement
happened
on
that
project
many
years
ago.
But
there
is
a
new
northbound
off
ramp
from
I-35
directly
to
28th
street,
and
I
personally
bike
west
on
28th
street
home
when
I,
when
I'm
in
the
office
and
the
bridge,
is
of
course
higher
deeper.
K
And
I
I
I'm
not
a
very
large
person
but
like
me,
not
even
pedaling,
with
like
a
backpack
with
you
know,
a
laptop
in
it
like
I
catch
a
lot
of
speed
on
the
downhill
when
I
reach
the
apex
of
that
bridge,
like
I
easily
hit
20
25,
sometimes
30
miles
without
even
trying,
and
I
am
terrified
that
I
am
going
to
be
t-boned
in
the
future
by
someone
trying
to
turn.
F
K
On
red
from
from
this
off-ramp,
because
when
you're
biking
or
walking
on
it,
the
bridge
has
grading
like
metal,
grading,
fencing
screening
for
the
pedestrian
experience,
and
you
can't
really
see
vehicles
if
you're
biking
or
walking
that
are
approaching
from
that
from
that
off-ramp.
So
I'm
personally
really
concerned
about
this
mixing
of
high
speed
traffic.
K
That's
going
to
be
then
expected
to
go
25
30
miles
per
hour
from
a
short
off
ramp
onto
28th
street
and
have
to
cross
a
protected
and
turning
across
that
it's
just.
It
doesn't
really
feel
all
that
safe
and
it's
not
open
right
now,
it's
just
being
constructed,
but
there's
also
just
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
gravel
and
debris
in
the
bike
lane
right
now
with
construction
activities.
So
it's
just
already
not
feeling
very
safe
before
it's
even
open.
K
E
K
E
C
B
J
I
B
Dennis
yes,
jennifer.
C
B
F
K
F
C
B
E
B
I
C
J
Okay,
our
last
project
at
the
engineering
subcommittee
meeting
was
the
b-line
recommended
corridor
plan.
It's
at
zero
percent,
adam
smith
from
metro
transit
was
and
jasna
hadzik
from
minneapolis
public
works
presented.
J
The
recommended
plan
is
pending
met
council
action
in
july.
2021.
engineering
will
happen
in
21,
22
and
construction
in
2033
and
24..
The
boundaries
are
from
west
lake
street
to
downtown
saint
paul
along
lake
street
and
marshall
and
selby
porter
plans
proposes
station
and
platform
locations
and
features
four
to
three
conversion:
conversions
and
single
direction.
J
Bus
only
lane
and
or
bike
lanes
are
being
reviewed
in
conjunction
with
the
county
and
city
jordan
said,
details
will
be
worked
out
separate
of
this
quarter,
plan
to
being
reviewed
by
met
council
for
possible
imp
for
improved
bike
facilities,
lake
street,
which
are
lake
street,
from
river
to
hiawatha
and
from
hennepin
avenue
to
east,
but.
N
J
N
Okay,
yeah,
so
there's
kind
of
two
things
happening:
one
is
metro,
transit
has
their
b-line
project
and
that's
a
funded
project
that
will,
you
know,
will
be
constructed
in
the
near
future.
N
Hennepin
county
acknowledged
this,
and
we
also
know
that
we
have
safety
concerns
a
lot
of
safety
issues
on
the
lake
street
corridor.
N
It's
a
four
lane,
undivided
roadway
in
a
lot
of
places
and
then,
like
dan,
also
mentioned,
there's
a
desire
for
bike
facilities
in
certain
areas,
and
so
essentially,
what
we
wanted
to
do
was
be
be
ready
when
opportunities
arise
for
us
the
county,
to
make
improvements
and
also
time
things
so
that
anything
that
happens
as
part
of
the
beeline
project
doesn't
preclude
future
improvements
that
the
county
might
want
to
make,
and
so
we're
working
closely
with
metro
transit
on
the
study,
they're,
a
partner
so
say
minneapolis,
and
so,
even
though
we
don't
necessarily
have
anything
programmed
right
now,
it's
very
likely
in
the
near
future.
N
Things
will
be
popping
up
whether
it's
a
pavement
maintenance
project
like
a
mill,
an
overlay
or
a
safety
specific
project.
Those
things
seem
like
they
could
be
on
the
table
in
the
near
future,
and
so
yeah
we're
just
wanting
to
be
ready
with
kind
of
a
comprehensive
vision
that
goes
beyond
metro
transits,
which
is
really
focused
on
the
station
locations.
J
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
I
don't
see
any
hands
up
and
so
stay
tuned
and
we're
done
with
the
engineering
report.
Thank
you.
A
Thanks
dan
thanks
marty
and
everyone,
I
am
up
for
the
next
item
on
our
agenda.
It's
a
fun
one.
It
is
the
august
bike
ride
for
folks
who
have
been
on
the
committee
for
more
than
more
than
2020
or
this
year,
because
we
didn't
have
a
bike
ride
in
2020.
We
typically
in
the
summer,
do
a
committee
bike
ride
which
is
really
fun.
A
It's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
usually
like
take
a
route
it'll,
be
a
pretty
at
a
conversational
pace
and
we'll
go
by
some
projects
that
have
been
constructed
recently
and
then
for
folks
who
are
interested
we'll
have
a
little
bit
of
like
a
social
gathering
somewhere
at
a
patio
afterwards.
So
just
wanted
to.
A
Let
folks
know
that
was
coming,
so
I
assume
that
all
of
your
bikes
are
tuned
up
because
it
is,
it
is
prime
summer
riding
season,
but
will
be
because
of
the
online
format
we'll
be
doing
something
a
little
different
for
the
meeting
portion
of
the
meeting.
A
So
in
past
years
we
have
just
set
the
meeting
place
as
the
plaza
right
by
the
light
rail
station
outside
city
hall
and
we've
just
had
our
you
know:
five
minutes
of
meeting
in
person,
but
because
of
the
online
meeting
format
the
fact
that
we
still
still
need
to
do
the
online
meetings.
A
A
The
business
portion
of
the
meeting
up
teams
really
trying
to
focus
on
keeping
things
tight
and
not
packing
our
agenda
with
too
many
resolutions
next
month,
because
we
will
have
to
you
know,
do
all
of
the
normal
things
that
we
do
on
teams
to
conclude
the
business
portion
of
the
meeting.
But
we'll
do
that
relatively
quickly
and
then
we
will
go
on
a
bike
ride
together.
So
just
wanted
to
give
folks
a
little
bit
of
a
heads
up.
A
So
we
will
still
plan
to
meet
in
that,
in
that
plaza
near
the
light
rail
station.
It's
usually
a
rain
or
shine
event.
What
matthew
girdle
calls
a
little
league
rule
so
unless
it's
lightning,
we'll,
probably
or
extremely
miserable,
we'll,
probably
still
go,
but
you
are
we'll,
let
folks
know
by
like
2
p.m.
The
day
of
so
this
this
ride
substitutes
for
a
normal
meeting.
It's
not
like
a
separate
thing.
You
don't
have
to
come
to
an
extra
meeting.
A
We're
just
gonna
turn
one
of
our
meetings
into
a
bike
ride,
matthew
dierdall
did
I
miss
anything.
H
I
don't
believe
so.
The
the
main
thing
is
thinking
about
a
route
and
I'm
sort
of
thinking.
South
minneapolis
feels
like
a
good,
a
good
spot,
largely
items
that
we
talked
about
today.
You
know
the
whittier
lindale
bikeway,
the
phillips.
B
H
Just
like
a
whole
lot
clustered
in
that
you
know
that
middle
part
of
south
minneapolis,
so
that
feels
like
it
makes
sense
to
me,
but
we'll
see,
I
guess,
we'll
plan
in
the
next
couple
weeks.
A
A
Anyone
have
any
questions
on
the
annual
bike
ride
or
the
teams
portion
where,
where
we'll
still
do
the
business
of
the
meeting.
K
B
I'll
probably
have
my
my
laptop
with
me.
So
a
few
people
can
look
over
my
shoulder.
C
F
A
Cool,
I
would
assume,
then
the
lobby
of
the
new
office
building
is
open.
I
haven't
really
been
in
there,
but
we
can
nail
that
down
as
a
main
option.
I
guess
the
other
thing
I
would,
if
you
are
not
gonna,
be
bringing
your
phone
and
wanting
to
like
look
over
somebody's
shoulder
and
lean
over
their
phone.
Just
to
request
that
you
please
bring
a
mask
if
you're,
if
you're
going
to
be
up
in
close
quarters
with
other
folks.
A
All
right,
I'm
not
seeing
any
other
raised
hands,
I'm
very
excited
to
go
on
a
bike
ride
with
all
of
you.
It
has
been
too
long,
even
though
we
had
something
earlier
this
summer
with
bree,
it
has
felt
like
we
haven't
gotten
very
many
chances
to
see
each
other.
So
I'm
pretty
excited
with
that.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
chris
for
a
long
overdue
agenda
item
and
then
we
might
even
get
out
of
this
meeting
early
today.
Everyone,
oh
my
goodness,.
G
Yeah
thanks
alyssa,
and
this
will
be
very
quick-
it's
kind
of
funny
that
it's
been
pushed
off
as
long
as
it
is
because
it's
going
to
be
maybe
a
little
anticlimactic,
because
I
think
it's
only
a
couple
or
a
few
minutes,
but
did
just
want
to
give
people
a
space
also
to
ask
questions
if
anyone
has
any
so
at
this
point
it's
sort
of
just
become
standard
practice
in
a
lot
of
what
we
do.
G
What
I'm
about
to
go
over,
but
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
do
that
and
like
I
said,
if
you
have
questions
just
let
me
know
so
as
far
as
the
materials
and
what
we
are
allowed
to
show
at
meetings
now,
we
send
out
our
gov
delivery
two-day
two
business
days
in
advance
and
have
to
have
our
agendas
up
on
limbs
as
well
in
that
timeline,
and
we
aren't
allowed
to
show
we
we've.
G
G
Transparency
is
one
so
that
people
who
aren't
members
or
and
for
members
can
see
all
those
materials
and
then
also
for
anyone
with
visual
impairments
that
may
need
some
extra
time
and
or
attention
to
some
of
those
materials
that
also
make
sure
that
they
have
that
time
and
then
the
only
exception
to
that
rule,
as
we've
been
doing,
is
our
resolutions
again
we'd
like
to
have
the
resolutions
up
in
advance
and
you've
all
done
a
really
good
job
of
doing
work
outside
of
meetings
to
put
those
together.
G
But
if
we
don't
have
them
because
anyone's
allowed
to
make
a
resolution
at
any
time,
the
way
that
we
handle.
That
is
that
if
there
is
a
resolution
that
wasn't
online,
we
just
make
sure
to
read
the
whole
thing
out
loud
and
also
to
read
any
changes
that
might
come
based
on
discussion
from
from
those
and.
G
I
guess
one
other
thing
that
I'll
mention,
so
we
this
is
sort
of
a
slightly
different
topic,
but
we
are
going
to
start
using
quorum
in
the
subcommittees,
probably
at
these
next
ones
here,
actually
which
we
need
to
follow
up
with
some
folks.
G
We
still
won't
like
formally
make
resolutions
at
the
subcommittees,
because
that
would
just
entail
needing
to
send
it
to
the
full
committee
anyways.
So
that's
one
other
process
piece
and
then
the
last
piece
is
just
use
of
the
chat
again
for
transparency
and
ada
reasons.
G
We're
not
allowed
to
use
the
chat
for
content
related
comments
during
meetings.
I'll
just
pick
on
the
comments
that
are
in
the
chat
from
today
like
I
think
all
of
these
are
are
fine
to
the
point
where
it's
not
like
really
trying
to
get
a
an
opinion
across
or
anything
like
that.
I'd
say
sorry
to
call
you
like
matthews
says
thanks
westiana
and
tyler.
I
like
the
direction
of
the
motion,
that's
like
starting
to
get
into
the
gray
area.
G
But
again
I
don't
think
a
big
issue
really
the
main
thing
there
is
like.
We
don't
want
someone
to
just
type
out
their
opinion,
as
opposed
to
saying
it
on
the
chat,
because
the
chat
essentially
doesn't
count
in
the
formal
record.
A
Oh,
can
I
just
add
one
one
thing
so,
in
addition
to
the
accessibility
reasons,
chris
mentioned,
you've
all
seen
emails
from
me
and
and
gotten
this
information
other
ways
kind
of
through
your
onboarding,
but
we
as
a
body
are
subject
to
the
state's
open
meeting
law
right.
That's
part
of
the
reason
I
read
that
notice
at
the
beginning
of
every
of
every
meeting
is
because
part
of
the
transition
to
online
was
figuring
out.
A
How
does
open
meeting
law
translate
to
an
online
context
and
open
meeting
law
is
really
about
making
sure
that
we,
as
a
committee,
are
operating
and
doing
our
business
in
public?
So
when
I
have
sent
out
emails,
reminding
folks
not
to,
for
example,
email
about
business
to
a
quorum
of
members
right
that
you
don't
want
to
be
circumventing
open
meeting
law,
it
is
totally
fine
and
great
that
we
are
doing
that.
Preparation
work
to
make
sure
that
our
conversations
at
the
committee
are
a
success
right.
A
It's
fine
to
have
a
subgroup
of
members
work
on
things,
but
we
don't
want
to
be
coming
to
decision
making
points
in
private
that
should
be
happening
in
public.
So
this
is,
this
is
all
sort
of
like
the
online
meeting.
Practices
are
all
sort
of
mixed
in
with
those
open
meeting
law
requirements.
A
So
I
would
say
when
in
doubt
think
about
the
public
transparency
piece
and
and
do
your
best
to
align
your
actions
with
the
spirit
of
what
needs
to
be
happening
there
and
then
we'll
also
just
offer
to
folks
one
of
the
things
I
did
earlier
this
year
was
I
just
called
up
the
clerk's
office
and
was
like.
A
Please
explain
to
me
how
open
meeting
law
applies
to
me,
because
they
have
issued
a
lot
of
guidance
over
the
last
year
about
what
things
we
should
and
should
not
be
doing,
and
you
know
things
have
evolved
as
the
technology
has
evolved
and
the
practices
have
evolved.
So
just
also
want
to
remind
folks
that,
like
the
clerk
is
they
the
clerk's
office
works
for
the
public.
A
They
they
work
for
you,
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
you
can
obviously
ask
our
team,
our
staff
team,
who
are
great,
but
they
are
also
an
available
resource
for
you.
G
Thanks
alyssa
and
you
sort
of
hinted
at
this,
but
just
so
folks
know
these
rules
will
remain
in
place
once
we
return
in
person
before
we
went
to
the
online
format.
The
agendas
and
all
that
stuff
is
a
lot
more
loose,
but
we
will
be
continuing
to
do
like
the
two-day
gov
delivery
and
sending
everything
out
electronically.
That
way.
H
This
is
nasty
I'll.
Just
I
want
to
remind
people
every
chance.
They
get
that
there's
a
there's,
a
very
strong
possibility
that
the
structure
of
the
meetings
will
change
dramatically
very
soon
as
well,
and
what
I
mean
is
that
in
person,
so
it
really
depends
on
what
happens
in
september
with
the
local
emergency
related
to
the
pandemic.
So
just
keep
that
in
mind
in
the
coming
months
and
start
thinking
about
what
what
in-person
meetings
might
mean
for
your
for
you
and
your
schedule,
and
that
type
of
thing.
F
A
Not
seeing
any
other
hands
raised,
I
think
if
we
we've
talked
about
this
a
couple
times
if
there
are
things
that
we
like
or
don't
like
about
the
current
meeting
practices
and
want
to
make
a
resolution
about
that,
I
think
now
is
kind
of
our
moment
to
consider
whether
or
not
we
would
want
to
do
that
as
a
committee.
Knowing
that,
obviously,
a
lot
of
the
decision
making
is
happening
outside
of
the
scope
of
our
committee,
it's
happening
with
the
entire.
A
What
do
you
all
call
it
the
enterprise
of
the
city
at
large
and
and
also
is
really
influenced
by?
What's
you
know,
I
like
state
law,
so
folks
have
things
that
they
that
we
would
want
to
communicate.
As
a
committee
we
can,
we
can
do
that.
I
just
wanted
to
open
the
door
in
case
folks
do
otherwise
we
can
decide
to
be
done
early
today.
Agree.
C
Hi
is
there
an
option
to
do
hybrid,
so
online
is
still.
The
virtual
is
still
available
for
accessibility
issues.
G
So
there
will
be
a
way
of
doing
it,
but
it's
gonna
pose
some.
It's
just
kind
of
a
complicated
state
law
that
was
passed
just
a
couple
months
ago,
essentially
what
it
would
mean
for
all
members-
and
this
applies
to
like
elected
officials
than
anyone,
but
if
you're
gonna
participate
in
the
meeting
so
not
just
watching
but
actually
participate
and
be
allowed
to
vote,
your
camera
would
have
to
be
on.
G
You
would
have
to
be
in
a
publicly
accessible
place,
such
as,
like
a
library
or
like
somewhere,
that
has
like
ada,
accessible,
entryways
and
public
could
like
come
and
like
sit
with
you
or
buy
you.
So
that's
our
assumption
is
that
no
one's
going
to
want
to
do
that.
G
Correct
correct,
because
we
also
need
to
publish
the
location
of
where
you
will
be
doing
that
in
advance,
so
these
these
laws
apply
to
all
elected
officials
in
minnesota
and
they'd
include
commissions
and
boards,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
I
do
think
what
alyssa
says
like
if
this
group
wants
to
make
a
statement
and
like
give
that
to
the
clerk's
office
like
there
was
no
local
engagement
from
what
I
know
when
that
state
law
was
passed.
I
think
it
was
like.
Oh,
like
things
are
gonna
happen
soon.
G
H
Can
I
offer
like
a
potential
clarification
and
chris
and
melissa
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
so
chris
you,
you
just
articulated,
I
think,
accurately
what
the
state
law
says
if
there
was
a
hybrid
in-person
remote
option
in
order
to
do
that,
it
would
take
a
significant
amount
of
work.
I
think,
on
the
city's
part
to
to
create
that
system.
Some
of
it
could
be
technology.
Some
could
be
like
logistics
and
rules
and
different
things,
so
it
may
be.
H
I
think
that
we
that
we
just
have
an
in-person
option,
so
I
just
want
to
say
I
think
that
is
within
the
realm
of
options
that
that
may
even
be
likely
meaning
the
only
choice
will
be
in
person,
because
we
cannot
meet
the
hybrid
rules
because
there
are
some
technology
things
too.
So
I
just
want
to
note
that
that
could
be
a
possibility.
A
Yeah
hearing
is
the
state
law
allows
for
one
thing,
but
our
current
city,
practices
and
infrastructure
are
not
inclined
to
to
be
in
alignment
with
the
thing
that
the
state
is
allowing
as
far
as
hybrid
meetings.
E
B
H
Want
to
say
I'm
I'm
hesitant
to
say
I
think,
I'm
hesitant
to
say
too
much,
because
I
I
don't
know
that
I'm
like
saying
like
it's
the
city's
problem
or
the
state's
problem,
I'm
just
saying
like
in
order
to
do
a
hybrid
option
there
are,
there
are
significant
steps
involved,
I'm
not
saying
it's
all
on
the
city,
I'm
just
I'm
just
saying
like
it's,
not
it's
not
clear.
Yet
whether
we're
gonna
do
that.
That's
all
I
mean.
E
G
If
the
emergency
order
is
ended
by
then
which
it's
currently
set
up,
I
think
to
end
in
september,
but
it's
been
extended
basically
every
time
by,
like
a
couple
months
or
a
few
months.
Okay,.
B
G
Maybe
it
has
like
some
better
technology
that
we
can
use
and
even
if
you
can't
vote
and
participate
remotely
like,
maybe
it's
simple
enough
to
like
turn
on
audio
and
video
in
the
room,
so
that
like,
if
you're
out
of
town-
and
you
want
to
listen
in
to
know
what's
going
on
like
I,
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
like
options.
We
can
consider
as
we
move
forward
and
so
just
getting
back
to
what
alyssa
said
like
if
you
come
up
with
ideas
like
that
or
anything.
P
Okay,
just
to
add
chris,
I've
done
some
hybrid
meetings,
not
not
like
of
this
form,
but
just
like
general
staff
meetings
in
the
new
building,
and
it
is
depending
on
the
room
you
have.
It
is
very
doable
to
have
some
people
on
their
computers
and
some
people
in
person
and
everything
just
from
that
technology
perspective.
G
Cool
and
again
I
also
don't
want
to
like
over
promise
like.
I
have
no
idea
what
booking
rooms
is
going
to
be
like
in
the
new
building
which
rooms
we'll
get
if
we're
still
going
to
be
in
city
hall,
but
just
to
like,
let
you
know
we'll
be
trying
to
work
with
you
to
like
have
some
of
these
features
stay
on
if
possible,
but.
P
C
G
C
Okay,
well
I
mean,
I
think
I
don't
okay,
so
in
my
opinion,
it
doesn't
need
to
happen
like
right
away,
but
the
city
should
figure
out
a
hybrid
model
that
they
can
do
in
the
future
if
we
want
it
to
be
actually
accessible
to
everyone,
because
I
know
it's
like
oh
okay,
I
have
to
meet
on
my
sidewalk
and
tell
someone
the
address
doesn't
seem
very
logical
when
you
we
have
the
current
technology
that
is
available,
that
we
may
create
or
purchase
to
get
to
that
point.
C
Where
folks
that
maybe
you
know,
aren't
able
to
get
to
downtown
at
4
pm
and
yeah.
So
that's
my
opinion
and
just
kind
of
to
get
them
rolling.
G
O
I
would
just
like
to
this
is
natalie.
I
would
just
like
to
agree
that
that
it
would
be
nice
in
the
future
if
there
were
a
way
to
align
the
legal
language
and
what
have
you
to
make
it
work
to
have
a
hybrid
option
just
so
that
those
of
us
who,
for
instance,
typically
work
until
4
30,
could
more
easily
go
straight
from
you
know
not
have
to
take
as
much
time
off
of
work
and
things
like
that.
O
You
know.
I
recognize
that
we
all
have
made
a
commitment
here
to
participate
in
this,
but
there's
also
something
to
be
said
for
for
people
not
having
as
flexible
of
schedules
being
able
to
participate
in
this
particular
group
and
other
similar
committees.
So
just
putting
that
forth
as
a
consideration
as
as
you
all
who
have
more
power
for
such
things,
move
forward.
So
thanks.
A
Thanks
thanks
natalie.
One
thing
I
will
add
that
before
phillip
jumped
in
is
that
we
can
also
right.
A
We
set
the
bacpac
calendar
every
year
we
set
the
meeting
like
we
have
a
meeting
date
time,
but
that
can
also
be
something
that
we,
as
a
committee,
look
at
we've
done
sort
of
a
survey
in
the
past
asking
like
are
there
better
times
of
day
for
us
to
meet
or
better
particular
days
for
us
to
meet,
and
obviously
there
are
some
limitations
there
right
like
we
can't
schedule
over
the
pedestrian
advisory
committee
meeting
that
staff
are
already
at,
but
that's
in
terms
of
what
we
have
control
over.
E
Philip
well
I'm
just
thinking
I
mean.
Obviously
I
totally
love
in
person
meetings,
but
I'm
sure
we've
all
been
engaged
with
hybrid
meetings
and
I'm
just
thinking
about
the
excellent
lobbyists
city
of
minneapolis
has
we
clearly
need
to.
In
I
mean
now
having
been
blindsided
by
the
state
law.
We
we
clearly
need
to
be
able
to
allow
participation
voting
in
a
hybrid
fashion.
That's
just
I
mean
again,
probably
we've
all
done
it.
It's
been
excellent.
E
It's
been
a
wonderful
discovery
during
this,
especially
during
this
pandemic,
but
for
yeah
for
10
years
I
mean
I
was
running
a
board
that
we
always
had
some
people
in
person.
Some
people
participating
virtually.
It
works
wonderfully
so
yeah.
A
B
G
E
I
I'm
wondering
whether
matthew
and
chris
you
can
maybe
before
before
the
next
executive
committee,
meaning
look
at
the
actual
state
law
and
you'd,
maybe
be
in
a
better
position
to
respond
to
that
and
craft
a
resolution
that
we
could
bring
to
the
bac
next
time
to
pass.
But
it
seems,
like
the
resolution,
should
be
urging
the
city
of
minneapolis
lobbyists
to
get
to
work
at
over
in
st
paul
to
amend.
A
I
guess
I'll
just
jump
in
with
one
thing,
which
is
reminder
that
we're
trying
to
keep
a
minimum
of
resolutions
on
the
august
agenda
because
of
the
fact
that
we're
doing
the
bike
ride.
So
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
super
complicated
and
then
also,
I
would
just
say
like
if
we.
If
we
really
want
to
know
the
ins
and
outs
of
state
law,
we
may
want
a
resolution
that
asks
the
clerk's
office
to
come
present
to
us
at
a
subcommittee
meeting
about.
A
H
H
They
are,
they
have
an
immense
responsibility
with
the
impacts
of
all
this,
so
they
also
have.
Let
us
know
that
there
there
will
be
communication
to
you,
know
the
50,
plus
sports
and
commissions,
coming
up
so
on
this
particular
topic.
I
would
say
you
know
chris
and
I
and
nelson,
like
we
heard
you
here,
we
we
understand
and
agree
it
and
we'll
bring
if
it's
okay
with
you
we'll
bring
these
comments
to
the
clerk's
office
and
any
meetings
where
they
organize
us
good
good.
A
F
F
Hendricks
with
a
quick
question,
I'm
curious
if
there's
room
for
the
city
of
minneapolis
under
the
state
law,
to
draw
a
finer
distinction
between
the
kinds
of
boards
and
commissions
we
have
because
we
do
have
commissions
like
the
planning
commission,
that
makes
you
know
really
binding,
quasi-legal
decisions
about
development
in
the
city
and
then,
if
somebody
wants
to
appeal
that
decision,
that's
a
legal
process,
whereas
we
as
the
bac
are
making
recommendations
to
staff,
but
we're
not
we're
not
really
a
decision-making
body
in
the
sense
that
when
we
make
a
motion,
that's
that's
what
will
happen
unless
somebody
takes
some
legal
action
against
our
emotions.
F
So
from
that
standpoint
I
wonder
if
the
city
could,
I
guess,
be
more
refined
in
or
or
draw
some
distinctions
about
exactly
how
formal
we
have
to
be
compared
to
the
planning
commission,
for
example,.
H
I'll
respond
to
that
and
say
that
it
is
unambiguous,
in
my
opinion,
based
on
the
conversations
of
the
clerk's
office
that
that
the
bac
and
pec
fall
under
these
requirements.
Like
I
don't
think,
there's
a
gray
area
that
we
could
make
a
case
to
not
apply
based
on
what
I've
heard
from
the
clerk's
office
like
if
there's
like
they.
They
use
very
clear,
strong
language
about
the
legal
requirement
and.
G
These
types
of
things,
and
just
to
add
a
little
bit
on
to
that.
Basically,
this
new
law
is
instead
of
minnesota
statute,
section
13d,
.021
that
we
refer
to
every
meeting
at
the
beginning,
like
the
open
meeting
law,
there's
like
a
new
section
or
like
an
updated
section
of
of
that.
So
because
we
fall
under
that
for
kind
of
those
other
things.
I
think
that's
probably
why
we
would
be
considered
to
fall
under
for
this.
F
Imagine
that
every
city
in
the
state
has
50
boards
and
commissions
they're
all
functioning
at
like
a
planning
commission
level
as
far
as
legal
requirements,
and
so
it's
I
guess
it's
more
a
question
for
the
clerk's
office
than
for
public
works
staff.
But
it's
about
it's
about
that
and
you
know
I
should
say
too.
I
really
appreciate
a
lot
of
the
formality
and
the
the
process
that
has
come
with
the
changes
to
the
bac.
So
I
think
there's
benefit
to
some
of
it.
A
Vermont
and
then
then,
I
think
we'll
probably
call
it
for
this
discussion.
L
Yeah,
I
guess
I
just
have.
I
guess
I
had
a
question
like
five
minutes
ago,
but
I'm
just
curious
at
this
point.
So
with
all
like
the
barriers
to
doing
a
hybrid
meeting,
some
of
it
legal,
some
of
it
technological,
would
that
implication
still
hold
for
presenters
for
folks
who
are
coming
and
presenting
to
the
bac.
Would
they
also
be
obligated
to
be
there
in
person.
G
That's
a
very
good
question
that
I
think
that
one
will
probably
depend
most
on
the
technology
that's
available,
because
it
is
pretty
explicit.
As
far
as
I
I
remember
in
the
open
meeting
law
that
that
those
requirements
apply
to
to
the
members
not
like
to
attending
public
or
anything
like
that,
and
so
I
would
think
staff
could
potentially
present
remotely.
If
we're
able
to
like
have
the
audio
that
all
members
can
hear
correctly
and
like
they
can
all
see
what's
being
presented
yeah
but
but
it
it
could
be
an
option.
L
Okay,
just
wondering
because
I
I
mean
the
I
think
my
thought
process
would
go
to
that
it
would
make
it
easier
for
presenters
to
you
know.
I
think
using
teams
has
been
really
nice
for
folks
to
present
and
share
their
screen
and
be
able
to
jump
in
when
they
have
to
present
and
then
also
jump
out
and
not
have
to
sit
around
for
the
entire
bsc
meeting.
So
not
that
it's
not
super
fun,
but
that's
all.
Thank
you.
G
A
Well,
thank
you
chris
for
getting
us
started
on
this
discussion.
I
appreciate
everybody
sharing
their
thoughts
and
hopefully
we
can
figure
out
how
to
make
the
transition
as
good
as
it
can
be,
given
the
resources
and
the
constraints
we're
operating
under.
So
I
appreciate
you
all
if
you
have
any
additional
thoughts,
feel
free
to
email,
those
to
me
and
matthew
in
the
in
the
coming
weeks,
and
hopefully
we
will
know
more
about
what's
happening
sometime
in
september.
K
J
Yes,
just
a
reminder
to
everybody
that
this
past
month
we
started
the
new
date
for
the
engineering
subcommittee.
It
meets
on
the
second
tuesday
of
each
month,
so
a
week
after
the
5e
subcommittee
meeting.
So
if
you're
planning
on
attending
look
for
it
on
the
second
tuesday
of
each
month,
rather
than
the
third.
A
Thanks
dan
I'll
jump
in
with
an
announcement
which
many
of
you
probably
have
already
seen,
but
the
r
streets
announced
open
streets,
minneapolis,
2021,
dates
and
locations.
I
think
that
was
earlier
this
week,
so
we'll
have
three
open
streets
events
this
year,
which
will
be
very
exciting.
I
hope
to
see
all
of
you
outside
enjoying
biking
or
walking
or
rolling
around
the
street.