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B
Good
afternoon,
everyone
for
good
mo
good
morning,
I
should
say
we
usually
have
our
meetings
in
the
afternoon,
but
today's
special
welcome
to
this
virtual
meeting
of
the
charter
commission's
redistricting
advisory
member
selection
work
group.
B
This
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statutes,
section
13d
.021,
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
The
city
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
to
the
meeting's
website
and
you
enter
its
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
public
access
and
transparency.
B
This
meeting
is
public
and
subject
to
the
minnesota
open
meeting
wall.
For
the
record,
my
name
is
andy
kozak
and
I
am
one
of
the
co-chairs
of
the
charter
commission's
redistricting
advisory
member
selection.
Work
group
I'll
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role
so
that
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum.
E
B
Lims.Minneapolismin.Gov
so,
first
of
all,
let's
let's
look
at
the
at
the
agenda
and
can
we
commissioners
it's
on
the
it's
before
us,
I'm
sure
you've
gotten
the
the
emails
with
the
agenda.
May
I
please
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda.
Is
there
a
second.
F
E
B
B
B
If
not
the
clerk
could
please
call
the
roll.
F
E
B
Good,
thank
you
very
much.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda,
I
believe,
is
the
chairs
report.
All
I
will
say
is
this
is
the
second
to
the
last.
This
is
the
penultimate,
the
second
to
the
last
meeting.
B
We
do
have
one
more
where
we
will
finalize
what
our
recommendations
are
and
conclude
the
work
at
least
conclude
the
work
of
this
section
of
of
our
of
our
job,
and
I
want
to
thank
a
number
of
people
carol,
bethune,
nicole,
certainly
nicole
weber
and
joe
garcia,
and
for
doing
the
lion's
share
of
the
work,
to
get
us
ready
for
this
meeting
and
to
prepare
the
materials
that
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
discuss
shortly
and
then
also,
I
want
to
welcome
our
old
friend,
our
legendary
clerk
peggy
menchik,
who
came
back
with
us
at
least
for
today.
G
Charlie,
would
you
be
able
to
share
your
screen
of
the
application?
I
just
posted
in
the
chat.
B
As
you
can
see,
this
is
a
a
reproduction
mainly
of
of
the
one
from
10
years
ago,
but
I
think
there
have
been
some
changes,
so
you
might
want
to
once
you
get
give
folks
another
minute,
maybe
to
read
to
read
that
tiny
text
and
then
scroll
start
scrolling
down.
B
Sure,
commissioner
clegg
thank.
E
You
I
just
note
that
on
page
two,
it
refers
to
those
who
are
employed
by
political
parties
or
the
city
are
excluded
from
advisory
group.
Membership
seems
to
me
we
ought
to
have
a
parenthetical
there.
That
says
service
as
an
election
judge
is
not
considered
employment
by
the
city.
B
G
D
Excuse
me,
it
is
in
the
last
question
in
the
yes
last
yes
or
no
question
okay
on
h2,
it's
in
the
very
last
one
as
well,
so
I'm
not!
I
support
repeating
it,
but
just
so
it's
far
enough
apart.
So
it's
not
repeated
in
too
close
of
succession.
Thank
you.
B
Good,
I
thought
I
remembered
it
from
our
discussions
and
yeah
it's
good
to
put
it
up
there
at
the
top,
because
otherwise,
if
people
an
election
judge,
former
election
judge
sees
that
they
might
say,
oh
I'm
ineligible
and
quit
so
good.
B
Anybody
else
have
any
any
suggestions
on
this.
F
This
is
commissioner
hawkins.
I
don't
have
a
suggestion,
but
on
that
same
page,
where
it
says,
do
you
plan
to
leave
your
minneapolis
your
permanent
residence
through
the
period
of
there's,
need
to
be
a
space
between
period
and
of.
B
G
Can
we
yes
thank
you?
Can
we
go
back
up
to
the
first
page,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
the
question
regarding
election
judge
work
in
that
final
box
there,
the
yes
or
no
section
it
does
say
during
the
period
have
you
been
or
will
you
be
and
there's
some
spacing
problems
there
as
well?
That
need
to
be
corrected,
but
that
bottom
question
does
say
an
employee
of
minneapolis
city
government
other
than
as
an
election
judge.
Does
that
suffice
or
do
we
need
do
chair
clegg?
Do
you
have
an
opinion?
E
E
Think
that
every
time
we
say
we
refer
to
the
fact
that
you're
ineligible,
if
you're,
an
employee
of
the
city,
we
should
include
something
that
says
other
than
as
an
election
judge,
because.
E
May
find
it
first
in
a
different
section
and
may
just
say
well,
I
should
stop
stop
right
now.
So.
G
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
just
to
be
clear.
I
am
making
these
edits,
charlie
is
sharing
his
screen
and
and
it's
a
pdf
version,
so
the
edits
are
being
made
you're,
just
not
seeing
them
happen
in
real
time
on
the
screen.
So.
A
Christina
kendrick
from
ncr
is
seeking
recognition
she's
our
partner
for
community
outreach,
so.
B
H
The
few
suggestions
that
I
had
is,
I
I
think
would
be
important
to
if,
if
these
are
going
to
be
posted
online,
which
I'm
hearing
that
they
are
is
to
have
reference
links
to
each
other,
such
as
a
link
to
the
job
description
or
the
committee
description,
if
you
will
in
the
application
and
vice
versa,
you
know
in
the
once
we
go
through
the
job
description,
we
should
have
a
link
to
the
application
as
well.
H
The
other
thing
too,
when
we
are
asking,
what
do
you
bring
to
the
diversity
of
this
group?
For
me
personally
sounds
clunky.
H
B
Okay,
could
you
suggest,
can
we
go
back
to
where
to
where
that
is
on
the
it's
on
the
second
page,
on
the
second
page.
H
B
B
B
I
I
I
just
noticed
that,
just
with
the
track
changes,
there's
two
questions
see
where
there's
a
at
the
very
top
there's
a
lot
of
a
small
print
and
at
the
very
end
of
that
small
print,
it
says:
are
you
able
to
devote
the
time
required
for
participation
on
the
advisory
group?
That's
a
separate
question
that
should
be
in
a
separate
box.
I
think
just
with
the
track
changes
that
just
came
out
that
way.
So
that's
intended
to
be
a
separate
question
with
a
yes
or
no.
B
F
G
J
H
That
might
be
the
spot
due
to
the
ambiguity
of
that
question,
where
you
would
put
a
link
to
the
job
description,
which
I
believe
gives
more
detail
as
to
what
time
commitment,
they're,
actually
signing
up
for.
H
Just
to
ensure
you
know,
it's
just
kind
of
covering
bases.
Just
so
folks
have
an
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
they're
reviewing
what
they're
being
asked
to
commit
to.
Okay.
H
And
this
this
particular
question,
which
I
also
agree,
needs
to
be
separate
due
to
the
time
commitment,
which
is
pretty
extensive
for
a
volunteer
committee.
So
they
just
have
an
opportunity
to
review
what
they're
being
asked
to
commit
to.
B
I
I
that
sounds
that
sounds
reasonable.
What
about
anybody
else
have
a
comment?
I'm
not
I'm
sorry,
but
I
don't
know
so
I
think
whoever
is
964,
I
think
blinked
but
nobody's
linking
now.
Anybody
have
any
comments
on
what
ms
kendrick
is
suggesting,
suggesting,
if
not
we'll
ask
that
that
without
objection,
we'll
ask
that
be
put
in.
B
G
B
Yeah
specif
specifying
duties
as
I
recall
our
discussion
is,
is
you
know
it's
hard
to
get
real
specific?
So,
but
if
anybody
has
any
suggestions,
they're
they're
certainly
welcome
to
to
offer
them
up.
D
Chair
click,
cheer,
click!
I'm
sorry!
Yes,
I
would
like
to
provide
for
miss
kendrick.
I
believe
the
seventh
bullet
point
is
the
way
we
referenced
diversity
right
now,
just
to
see
how
that
sounds
to
you.
B
We
spent
some
time
that
was
that
we
spent
some
time
on
that.
As
I
recall.
H
H
H
B
B
Okay,
we
can
go
on.
I
will
say
that
I
think
the
first
draft
of
this
did
not
have
demonstrate
understanding
what
we
did
not
want
to
do.
B
Suggest
reply,
however,
strongly
that
you
have
to
be
one
of
the
diverse
groups
in
order
to
be
seriously
considered
for
for
for
the
for
the
group,
and
so
that's
what
we,
but
we
wanted
to
express
some
way
of
saying
that
we
wanted
to
understand
the
the
screening
process
we
wanted
to
be
through
the
screening
process.
We
wanted
to
be
able
to
to
discern
that
people
did
have
breadth
and
depth
of
understanding
of
diversity
and
and
how
important
it
was
to
the
process,
but
take
a
look
at
it.
B
Let's,
let's
move
on
and
we'll
come
back
before
we
before
we
end
the
discussion
on
this
piece
and
see
if
you've
got
any
suggestions
for
us.
F
F
Is
there
this
is
commissioner
hawkins?
Is
there
definition
or
descriptions
between
excuse
and
unexcused
absence
that
they
would
have
I'll.
B
Defer
to
commissioner
clegg
or
to
or
to
casey,
I
think
excuse
means
you
called
in
and
you
don't
have
to
tell
what
the
excuse
is.
I
mean
unexcused
means
you
nev,
you
just
didn't
call
in
and
nobody
knew
nobody
heard
from
you
and
that's
so
that
goes
down
is.
Is
that
correct,
casey.
A
Mr
chair,
I'm
sorry
I
wasn't
immediately
responsive
I'm
looking
up
in
the
commission's
rules
itself
for
definitions,
but
the
general
description
you
gave
is
correct.
An
excused
absence
is
where
a
member
has
given
advanced
notice
prior
to
the
meeting
that
they
cannot
attend
versus
an
unexcused
absence
where
there
was
no
such
contact.
B
Okay,
and
what
about
does
anyone
have
any
suggestions
about
putting
in
their
what
what
the
process
is
for
for
getting
excused?
Is
this
the
right
place
for
it
or
is
it?
Is
it
necessary
that
we
even
do
that?
Chair,
kozak
yep,
commissioner.
E
Clegg,
our
rules
provide
for
regular
charter
commissioners
that
each
commissioner
will
provide
the
charter
commission
coordinator
with
notice
of
inability
to
attend
at
least
24
hours
prior
to
the
time
of
a
scheduled
meeting
and
excused
absences
may
be
granted
by
the
chair
or
his
or
her
designee.
B
Okay,
is
that
something
we
should
put
in
the
application
at
this
point
or
the
description
of
the
duties,
so
that
people
knows
what
people
know?
What
other
the
difference
between
excused
and
unexcused
is.
I
Commissioner
kozak,
this
is
a
carol
bushoon.
I
think
it's
only
fair.
If
we're
going
to
say
you
can
be
removed,
I
mean
you
know
for
three
more
than
three
unexcused
absences.
I
Then
I
think
we
need
to
let
people
know
what
the
process
is
that
that's
my
legal
analysis
of
it.
So
they
know
in
advance
what
they
need
to
do
and
they
won't
be
removed
without
knowing
what
the
process
is.
Okay,
other
people
might
have
a
differing
opinion,
but
that's
mine.
I
B
Okay,
I
see
that
makes
that
that
makes
sense.
I,
but
I
see
a
couple
hands
up:
one
unidentified
nice
smile,
the
little
logo,
the
little
icon,
just
unmute
and
chime
in.
J
K
From
the
rules
work
group,
I
would
just
say
we
were
going
to
when
we
discussed
this
in
the
rules
work
group.
We
were
going
to
use
the
rule
for
unexcused
an
excuse
that
was
applicable
to
the
to
the
charter
commission
at
large,
and
so
I
think
the
suggestion
of
putting
in
inserting
rule
two
1.,
2.1.6
and
7
is
makes
sense
to
me.
B
B
If
nobody
else
miss
weber,
have
you
do
you
have
all
that?
Can
you
make
sense
of
all
that.
G
Yes,
I
have
notes
for
myself
I'll
make
sure
that
the
the
full
descriptions
are
inserted
into
our
next
draft
for
review.
Okay,.
B
Thank
you.
So
without
objection,
that'll
that'll
happen
any
other
discussion.
Any
other
changes
before
we
get
back
to
to
the
diversity.
B
J
B
Commissioner
sandberg
has
a
suggestion,
but
why
don't
you?
Why
don't
you
lay
yours
out
and
then
we'll
give
jan
a
chance
to
respond.
H
Okay
sure
I
just
before
I
respond,
I
want
to
understand
that
the
the
point
of
this
particular
bullet
is
the
goal
of
the
redistricting
is
to
minimize
the
redrawing
of
lines
as
much
as
possible
and
to
keep
geographic.
H
The
cur
like
current
geographic
specificity
intact.
Is
that
correct.
B
Yeah,
I
think
that's
fair.
The
general
rule
is
that
you
don't
make
changes
that
that
the
population
that
the
number
the
census
numbers
don't
don't
really
require
sure.
H
So
my
offer,
then,
is
this
rewording
and
I
can
send
it
to
nicole
and
I'll
read
it
slow
because
I
actually
wrote
it
out,
demonstrate
depth
and
breadth
of
understanding
of
the
importance
of
maintaining
the
city's
geographic
diversity
in
the
redistricting
process.
H
Because
I'm
thinking
more
about
the
job
description
of
the
individu,
of
who
who's
ever
applying,
what
they're
tasked
to
do
versus
who
who
they
are
as
a
person
as
far
you
know,
I
mean,
as
far
as
you
know,
age,
gender,
race,
ethnicity,
etc.
So,.
H
H
I
see
that
casey
did
post
the
my
thought
in
the
chat
room
for
folks
who
need
to
look
at
it
like
I
do,
but
I
will
say
it
again
demonstrate
depth
and
breadth
of
understanding
of
the
importance
of
maintaining
the
city's
geographic
diversity
in
the
redistricting
process,
which
is
more
of
a
task
versus
a
a
requirement
of
a
person
and
and
who
and
how
they
identify.
H
B
D
Oh,
this
is
jill
garcia.
I
just
wanted
to
just
further
add
that
I
think
our
intention
was
to
say
you're
on
this
group,
because
you
understand
the
importance
of
diversity
as
it
relates
to
the
city,
and
we
want
you
on
this
group
to
articulate
that
and
to
so
you
don't
have
to
be
a
member
of
a
diverse
community,
but
if
you
are
whatever
the
unique
array
of
diversity,
it
is
that
you
have
and
that
you
bring
that
we
want
on
this
group.
B
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
that's
what
we
tried
to
get
at
and
and
I'll
take
the
some
of
the
blame
for
it's
not
a
very
artful
way.
We
put
it
and
I
think,
but
I
think
commissioner
garcia
explains
exactly
what
we
were
trying
to
get
at.
You
don't
have
to
be
one
of
this
group,
but
you
have
to
be
able
to.
We
hope
you
can
demonstrate
that
the
concerns
that
she
outlined,
ms
kendrick,
how
does
that
square
with
what
you're
trying
to
do.
H
Absolutely
like,
like
I
said,
I
feel
that
I
understood
what,
throughout
this
whole
job
description,
you
know
you
were
trying
to
achieve.
H
I
just
to
ensure
that
it's
presented
appropriately
is
to
make
sure
that
the
language
we're
using
is
about
task
drivens,
especially
since
this
is
a
job
description
about
what
you're
expected
to
bring
and
do
versus
about
versus
language.
That
points
to
how
someone
identifies,
especially
since
we're
looking
for
folks
who
understand
across
the
board
how
important
it
is
to
really
take
into
consideration
all
of
the
domains
of
community
into
perspective.
When
they're
talking
about
redrawing.
H
You
know,
wards,
etc,
parks,
boundaries,
all
that,
so
I
was
just
wanting
to
re-frame
that
particular
bullet
to
make
it
more
about
an
action
item
versus
about
who
you
are
and
how
you
identify.
B
Right
and
that's
what
we
tried
to
do,
because
the
original
language
kind
of
implied
that
it
did
imply
that
you
should
be
a
member
of
one
of
these
one
of
the
groups,
the
enumerated
groups,
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
know
you
didn't
have
to
be
a
member
of
the
group
in
order
to
to
be
considered.
So
that's,
I
think,
we're
we're
getting
close,
but
I
have
who
is
cb.
I'm
sorry!
That's
mr.
J
L
That
that's
okay,
you're,
fine!
I
I
understand
what
ms
kendrick
is
saying,
but
I
think
what
the
purpose,
what
you
are
trying
to
get
at
is
to
demonstrate
the
depth
and
breadth
of
understanding
the
importance
of
the
city's
diversity
in
the
redistricting
process.
It's
not
just
geographic,
that's
just
a
tiny
part
of
it
and,
in
fact
it's
more
true
for
wards,
I
believe
than
it
for
park
districts
than
is
for
wards,
but
and
again,
you're.
Absolutely
right,
though,
this
was
never
about
this,
a
person's
specific
characteristics.
L
B
L
I
would
drop
the
maintaining
the
and
geographics
I
say,
demonstrate
depth
and
breadth
of
understanding
the
importance
of
the
city's
diversity
and
the
redistricting
process,
and
maybe
that's
not
good
either,
but
definitely
not
just
geographic.
H
Yeah,
well,
that
would
be
the
original
statement.
I'm
only
I'm
not
married
to
anything,
so
I'm
only
making
suggestions
and
I
will
be
completely
transparent
when
it
comes
to
the
whole
redistricting
process.
I'm
I'm
just
I'm
still
myself
understanding
what
that
whole
process
is
so
if
it's
not
specific
to
the
city's
as
we're
drawing
boundary
lines
and
thinking
about
what
that
particular
community
is,
which
is
why
I
inserted
geographic
if
you're.
H
B
L
Oh
that
was
before
I
would.
I
made
an
early
suggestion
that
I
just
that's
fine,
I
think
on
this
one.
It
was
there's
a
slight
language
shift,
that's
a
little
bit
different
and
it
may
be
important
or
not,
but
it
was
demonstrate
depth
and
breadth
of
understanding
the
importance
of
the
city's
diversity
in
the
redistricting
process.
It's
a
little
bit
different
than
what
the
original
language
above
and
maybe
it's
not
an
improvement.
L
I
I
leave
that
to
your
committee
members,
but
but
the
idea
was
that
the
whole
range
of
diversity
again,
not
who
you
are,
but
what
you
understand
your
experiences
and
so
forth
are
important
and
that
we
acknowledge
the
importance
of
diversity
of
many
different
whatevers
right.
I'm
not.
I
am
not
articulate
today.
I'm
sorry.
B
That's
because
it's
the
morning,
commissioner,
garcia.
D
Yes,
thank
you.
I
was
gonna,
let
miss
kendrick
know
and
invite
her
miss
bashoon
does
a
wonderful
orientation
too
about
redistricting
and
what
the
legal
requirements
are
in
terms
of
geography
and
community
of
interests.
What
what
shapes
are
and
are
not
acceptable.
D
So
I
would
invite
you
to
attend
that,
if
anything,
because
I
found
it
very
fascinating,
it
was
very,
very
interesting
and
as
the
redistricting
process
goes
on,
one
thing
that
I
found
last
time
is
that
those
members
of
the
redistricting
group
or
city
staff,
if
there's
anything
that
looks
like
it,
may
creep
up
on
violating
any
of
those
essential
required
elements,
we're
really
good
at
kind
of
saying,
wait
a
minute.
D
B
I
I
think
maybe
mr
garcia
might
have
put-
maybe
you
put
your
finger
on.
Miss
kendrick
talked
about
geography
and
it's.
This
is
this
is
about
more
than
geography,
but
you
added
community
of
interest
right.
B
Maybe
we
could
work
with
that.
Geography
and
community
of
interest
are,
are
the
factors
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
diversity
is
a
ingredient,
as
we
make
decisions
on
the
basis
of
community
of
interest
in
geography,
because
you
know
that's
really
what
we
as
a
practical
matter.
That's
really
what
we
do.
We
look
at
the
geography,
the
demography
and
the
community,
and
community
of
interest
was
always
a.
B
D
I
would
add
that
people
at
this
stage
reading
through
the
application,
don't
know
what
community
of
interest
means
it's
only
afterwards.
D
B
I
Yes,
chair
kozak,
I
do
like
jan's
revision
to
the
language.
I
think
that
it
is
getting
too
detailed
when
we
start
talking
about
geography
and
community
of
interest.
We
also
have
to
look
at
neighborhood
groups.
We
also
have
to
look
at
any
kind
of
illegality.
I
E
I
Want
to
we
have
to
watch
things
like
we
don't
want
to
pack
them
so
that
they
lose
more
voter
power
or
crack
them
so
that
they
don't
have
any
voting
power.
So
there
are
so
many
things
that
we
have
to
look
at,
so
I
don't
think
we
should
get
too
detailed.
I
did
like
what
jan
said.
The
other
thing
we
could
do
is
we
could
follow
what
we,
the
change,
that
we
made
in
the
application
and
say
just
help,
bring
a
diverse
perspective
when
engaging
in
the
work
of
the
redistricting
group.
H
I
did,
and
I
was
gonna
offer
a
rewrite,
but
casey
carl
put
in
the
chat
an
option
that
I
also
fully
support.
H
And
I
can,
I
can
read
it:
go
ahead,
demonstrate
deep
personal
awareness
and
appreciation
for
the
importance
that
the
city's
diversity
plays
in
the
redistricting
process.
B
Any
comment
on
that
miss
web,
ms
weber,.
G
B
Well,
yeah
demonstrate
is,
is
not
a,
I
think.
You're
right
demonstrate
is
not
a
duty
if
we
could
come
up
with
a
different
word
than
demonstrate.
B
B
Exercise,
I
guess
awareness
is
not
something
you
exercise,
but
I
think
we're
getting
there.
Let
me
suggest
this,
commissioner.
Hawkins
is
correct
in
her
her
observation
that
we're
probably
overthinking
this,
but
if
ms
weber
and
commissioner
garcia
and
I
can
visit
before
the
next
meeting,
let
us,
let's
we'll,
come
up
with
something
that
I
think
maybe
everybody
can
go
along
with
and
we
can
deal
with
it
at
the
next
meeting.
Okay,
does
that
make
sense.
E
Mr
chair
yep,
this
is
barry
yeah.
Please
look
at
the
language
that
casey
just
suggested
and
that
nicole
is
entering
okay
right
now.
E
A
Comment,
the
only
comment,
mr
I'm
sorry,
mr
chair,
it's
casey.
The
only
comment
I
would
add
is
to
tie
back
to
what
your
attorney
ms
bashun
had
said
earlier,
and
I
think
ms
weber
had
noticed
this,
because
a
desired
qualification
or
quality
of
the
people
selected
is
to
demonstrate
that
deep
personal
awareness
and
appreciation
this
more
task-oriented
focus
connects
both
the
duty
of
the
member
and
the
qualifications
that
you're
seeking.
So
I
think
that
makes
a
nice
package
together.
B
I
I
like
it.
I
I
think
that
that's
what
we
wrestled
with
yesterday
and
so
with
without
objection,
let's
put
that
in
there
and
we'll
have
a
a
number
of
days
to
weigh
it
before
we
have
the
next
meeting
the
final
meeting.
H
Mr
chandler
yep,
this
is
christina.
I
completely
support
the
last
rewriting
that
casey
offered
and
then
to
nicole's
point
of
qualifications.
I
also
completely
agree
that
it's
a
nice
tie.
B
G
We
might
want
to
just
scroll
down
and
just
make
sure
there
are
no
other
comments
or
concerns
about
the
rest
of
this
document.
If
that's
okay,.
I
Oh,
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
one
thing
that
for
sure
we
have
to
look
at
is
the
whether
somebody
should
be
able
to
nominate
others
for
consideration
where
we
then
send
an
application
out
to
that
person.
So
you
can
continue
looking
at
the
rest,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you,
at
a
minimum
cover.
I
I
Commissioner
kozak,
I
have
one
other
thing
that
we
could
talk
about
in
the
time
commitment.
It's
just
a
typo
from
what
I
made
a
mistake
earlier.
Under
the
time
commitment
maps
will
likely
be
completed
by
april
1st.
I
think
the
deadline
is
like
march
29th,
so
I
think
that
okay.
J
I
Miscalculated
that
later
that
when
we
started
working
on
like
nicole
and
casey
and
I
started
working
on
or
nicole-
and
I
worked
on
this
document-
and
it's
actually
we
we
have
to
be
done
by
like
march
29th
unless
there's
some
other
weird
issues
that
come
up,
so
that
really
should
be
april.
First,
that's
my
mistake.
I
B
B
To
the
to
your
your
previous
issue,
I
think
you
know
that's
a
kind
of
a
serious
there's.
Some
serious
concerns
there
that
we
better
discuss.
Does
anybody
have
any
suggestions
and
a
call.
G
A
I'm
sorry
casey,
commissioner
sandberg
had
addressed
this
point,
mr
chair,
and
she
has
a
comment
in
the
chat
she
may
want
to
make
yeah.
I'm.
L
You
I
sorry
I
missed
this
point
before
I
absolutely
strongly
feel
that
it
should
people
have
to
nominate
themselves.
I,
if
they're
not
interested
enough
to
fill
out
an
application.
They
can
certainly
be
told
by
somebody
about
the
process,
but
they
should
fill
out
their
own
application.
If
that's
what
that
means.
Otherwise,
I
think
you
could
be
opening
up
a
world
of
hurt
for
the
advisory
group.
That's
just
what
I
think,
though,.
B
Yeah,
even
even
old-timers,
understand
what
fishing
is
so
I
would
have
no
objection
unless
there's
a
some
serious
concern
to
doing
exactly
what
what
you're
saying,
commissioner
jan,
what
about
other
folks,
any
other
any
other
opinions
or
perspectives.
B
G
Yes,
actually,
this
is
a
question
for
christina
carol
bashon
and
I
we
were
going
through
this
yesterday.
G
Carol
brought
it
to
my
attention
that
it
is
listed
in
here
that
applicants
could
contact
ncr
for
information
on
where
to
find
their
local
organization
where
they
could
obtain
copies
of
the
application,
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
okay.
To
put
because
I
part
of
me
is
afraid
I
don't
want
people
to
reach
out
with
questions
about
the
application
for
ncr.
G
H
Fine
and
that
it's
actually
accurate
our
website
and
our
neighborhood
staff
do
help
folks
find
out
who
their
neighborhood
organization
is.
So
I
I
don't
see
any
problem
with
this.
I
Yes,
commissioner
kozak,
this
is
carol
bushoon
again
yeah.
We
just
need
to
remove
see
my
suggestions
above
application
process
that
pic
and
that
paragraph
under
there.
I
think
that's
all
taken
care
of
above
okay
right,
I
mean
nicole,
can
I
mean
the
under
there's
another
section
that
says
application
process
and
it
lays
out
various
links
and
that's
the
one
that
nicole
just
talked
about
too.
So
I
think
that
paragraph
should
be
removed
unless
somebody
else
has
an
issue
with
that.
I
Yeah
I
just
I
just
noticed
that,
actually
you
can
get
them
in
person.
We
didn't
put
that
under
the
application
process.
Above
so
maybe
maybe
you
can
no,
no
the
paragraph
above
that
see
application
process.
It
doesn't
say
that
you
can
get
an
application
from
room,
304
city
hall.
I
just
suggest
that
you
know.
Maybe
you
can
work
with
the
two
chairs
and
just
make
sure
that
you
have
everything
in
one
place
that
includes
you
know
physically
going
into
room
304
city
hall,.
B
I
Yeah,
but
I
think
that
I
understand
the
office
is
open.
B
Right
yeah
that
day,
I
was
told
that
we
were
told
that
yesterday,
as
long
as
people
know,
they
have
options
and
that
it's
convenient
for
them
to
to
get
to
get
a
hold
of
this
application.
So.
B
B
Good
any
other
discussion
on
this
phase
of
the
of
the
of
the
agenda,
because
I
want
to
get
to
the
interview
process,
which,
which
maybe
has
may
be
problematic
and
take
some
time,
and
I
don't
want
to.
I
don't
want
to
have
us
run
too
long,
because
I
know
people
have
tight.
B
B
B
A
Christina
kendrick
was
seeking
recognition.
H
Thank
you,
casey,
chair
kozak,
I'm
I'm
just
wondering
on
the
interview.
It's
the
way
it
states
now
that,
even
though
they're
eligible
they
may
not
be
interviewed,
is
that
what
we're
trying
to
say.
D
Anticipating
don't
know,
say:
40
50
applications.
We
may
not
be
able
to
interview
everyone,
and
so
that's
that's
what
it
is
saying.
H
B
Yes,
I
think
jan
sandberg
has
her
name
her
hand
up.
L
Oh
yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
say,
I
think
what
you
mean
in
the
in
the
first
bullet
is
not
all
eligible.
Applicants
must
be
interviewed,
clearly
you're
not
going
to
interview
the
ineligible
ones
and
last
time
we
had
yes
because
of
the
election
judge
issue,
we
had
a
number
of
ineligible
applications,
but
it
sounds
like
what
you're
saying
is,
even
if
someone's
eligible
you
may
not
interview
all
of
them.
L
J
B
Do
we
have
to
specify
here
on
what
what
the
criteria
will
be
even
to
grant
an
app
an
interview
in
person
in
her
an
interview.
I
Carol,
I'm
sorry.
I
was
going
to
just
talk
about
one
other
one
other
issue.
I
I
suggest
that
the
chairs
and
nicole
just
go
over
in
a
the
eligibility
it
talks
about
when
you
answer
yes
or
no
to
different
questions
and
whether
it's
you're
no
longer
eligible,
I
would
suggest
that
you
look
at
those
I
was
looking
at.
I
think
that's
there's
some
errors
in
that
when
I'm
looking
at
the
application,
so
you
can
just
revise
that
when
you
two
meet
when
you
three
meet.
J
D
Yes,
thank
you.
I
would
like
to
provide
an
overview
as
to
what
our
intent
is
and
then
welcome
comment
on
how
well
and
how
number
one,
how
that
sounds
and
number
two.
If
there's
any
way
to
make
that
clear,
our
intent
is
undersea.
D
There's
the
competencies
and
the
interview,
questions,
and
one
thing
I
propose
is
literally
having
an
evaluation
score
sheet
that
I
have
a
draft
of,
and
I've
been
in
process
of
drafting
where
we
can.
Actually,
it
would
be
an
excel
spreadsheet,
where
we
would
actually
have
a
guide.
That
says
this
is
what
number
one
through
ten.
D
This
is
what
this
is.
What
needs
to
be
said,
if
you
score
number
ten,
and
then
this
is
what
would
qualify
as
a
number
two,
for
example,
and
then
we
have
a
excel
spreadsheet,
where
we
can
wait
the
questions,
perhaps
in
order
of
importance
and
then
assign
a
number
to
each
and
have
comments
at
the
bottom
and
this.
D
This
is
what
I
do
professionally
is
I
work
on
competitive
grant
reviews,
so
my
mindset
going
into
this-
and
maybe
we
need
to
be
transparent
and
say
we
will
have
a
scoring
process
that
will
score
these,
but
my
mindset
going
into
these
is:
if
someone
were
unhappy
with
the
process
and
they
file
the
freedom
of
information
requests
to
see.
D
You
know
the
what
we
did
as
part
of
our
process
that
we
should
be
able
to
provide
them
this
the
range
of
scores,
obviously
perhaps
not
with
the
individual
people
but
the
range
of
scores
and
where
they
fell
in
there
and
provide
some
kind
of.
B
I
think
let
me
give
our
our
our
city
attorney
carol.
Rashoon,
give
her
a
chance
to
think
about
what
you're
suggesting
to
see
what
kind
of
legal
implications
you
mentioned:
freedom
of
information
act,
but
any
kind
of
data,
privacy
or
any
kind
of
issues
that
having
a
scoresheet
a
documentation
of
how
we
decided,
if
that's
got
any
legal
implications.
B
In
the
meantime,
let
me
let
me
ask
turn
to
miss
kendrick.
You
had
a
comment
before
we
go
on.
H
I
just
want
to
say
I
fully
support
that,
and
it
was
a
recommendation
I
put
forward
whenever
we,
whenever
we
put
together.
Committees
such
as
this,
we
typically
do
have
a
pretty
transparent,
outlining
of
how
selection
is
made,
whether
it's
joining
an
advisory
committee
such
as
this,
or
whether
it's
who
gets
funding
or
other
support
through
the
city
etc.
So
I
I
highly
recommend
that
the
the
redistricting
group
or
the
charter
committee
here
consider
putting
together
criteria
on
how
they're
selecting
the
applicants.
B
Okay,
I
think
why
don't
I
don't
know
if
commissioner
garcia
has
accessed
any
of
some
examples
of
of
how
you
guys
have
done
it.
Commissioner,
garcia,
do
you
have
any
examples
from
the
city
already.
D
D
Answers
will
be
rated
on
a
scale
of
one
to
ten
and
if
we
do
weight
them
differently,
which
we
really
don't
have
to,
because
that
might
get
us
into
having
to
explain
why
we
weighted
things
differently,
have
a
little
chart
that
says
you
know.
This
is
how
many
questions
we
are.
We
have
if
we
give
x
number
of
points
to
each
one.
D
These
are
the
total
number
of
points
possible,
but
I
think
if,
if
we're
gonna
determine
any
kind
of
qualifications
and
how
suitable
they
are
to
serve
using
what's
listed
in
one
and
two
is,
is
the
way
to
go
and
just
making
making
it
more
clear
that
there
will
be
a
more
formal
evaluation.
I
Commissioner
kozak
we
we
do
have
an
hr
department
that
works
on
assisting
with
hiring
and
they
may
be
able
to
give
their
opinion
on
some
of
this
it.
It
does
make
sense
to
know
how
you're
going
to
score
as
far
as
the
data
practices
act.
There
are
statutes
that
deal
with
you
know,
what's
public
and
what
what's
not
public
when
you're
scoring
an
individual,
so
that's
under
minnesota
statutes,
13.43
and
13.34.
I
All
of
that
would
relate,
and
then
13.601
also
deals
with
these
individuals,
but.
G
I
So
that's,
I
don't
think
that's
a
real
real
problem,
but
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
find
to
determine
how
you're
going
to
score
applications
and-
and
I
think
hr
has
done
that
in
the
past
and
hr
has
also
set
up
interview,
questions
in
the
past,
and
then
they
have
like
what
are
some
of
the
good
answers
or
the
or
some
of
the
topics
that
people
should
discuss
in
their
answer.
I
So
that's
been
done
in
the
past,
so
if,
in
fact,
hr
can
help
help
with
some
of
these
issues,
that
might
be
a
really
good
thing
so
that
we
can
keep
things
uniform
between
applications
for
city
employees
and
these
advisory
group
members.
G
Yes,
thank
you,
ms
bishoon.
After
you
had
encouraged
me
to
reach
out
to
hr
for
this,
I
have
been
in
contact
with
them.
They
have
responded
to
me
to
say,
they'd,
be
happy
to
review
the
documents.
I've
sent
them
our
previous
drafts
and
I'm
going
to
be
sending
them
drafts
after
our
meeting
wraps
today,
and
they
are
planning
to
get
back
to
us
with
their
recommendations
and
opinion
by
next
tuesday.
D
Yes,
it's
it's
very
similar.
I
would
think
one
thing
I
want
to
mention,
as
we
go
further
in
this
process,
is.
D
D
The
group
of
interviewers
needs
to
be
unified.
They
need
to
have
the
message
they'll
go
through.
You
know
a
little
training
and
those
who
are
not
part
of
the
interview
team,
even
though
they
may
be
jumping
at
the
bid
to
participate
that
it
be
clear
that
they
are
observers,
and
then
we
also
don't
want
participants,
perhaps
seeing
their
name
or
seeing
their
picture
and
getting
the
impression
that
they
will
weigh
in
at
all.
D
B
Understood
we
have
a
comment
from
mr
sandberg.
L
I'm
sorry
I'm
talking
so
much
today,
so
I
just
want
to
make
it
be
clear
to
myself
so
you're
going
to
have
all
the
applications
will
go
through
casey's
office
to
clear
out
the
ones
who
are
clearly
ineligible,
okay,
and
there
will
be
a
few,
I'm
sure.
So
then,
will
you
have
a
set
of
criteria
to
decide
so
that
you
can
do
a
paper
review
on
the
applications
to
decide
who
to
interview
and
will
you
are
you
considering
having?
L
We
will
consider
interviewing
at
least
30
people
or
some
kind
of
number
out
there,
or
is
it
just
going
to
be
we're
going
to
go
through
and
pick
the
ones
that
kind
of
fit
our
set
and
I'm
not
sure
exactly
how
that
would
work?
Then
it
sounds
like
of
those
you
choose
to
interview
and
I
think
last
time
we
interviewed
21
people.
L
Would
you
have
a
refined
version
of
your
checklist
to
use
to
decide
how
to
rank
those
applicants
or
something
similar
for
your
final
committee
decision
and
I'm
no,
commissioner,
garcia,
has
that
idea.
My
second
question
is:
is
it
likely
that
there
will
still
be
a
remote
meeting
requirement
this
summer?
If
there
is,
there
could
be
actually
allow
some
in
person
but
with
a
limit
of
say,
15
or
20,
which
creates
a
whole
other
issue?
So
then,
would
you
have
teams
as
an
option
and
do
a
part
to
a
hybrid?
B
Let
me
answer
the
second
question
first
or
give
give
it
a
try
and
then
I'll
refer
to
commissioner
garcia
as
to
whether
there'll
be
in-person
interviews
this
summer.
That's
up
to
the
governor.
Probably
in
other
words,
are
we
going
to
get
the
all
clear
to
do
more
stuff?
B
B
As
for
the
first
question,
I
think
when
we,
when
we
would
sit
down
to
decide
how
many
we're
going
to
interview,
maybe
come
up
with
a
a
provisional
target,
but
all
the
but
all
of
a
sudden.
If
we
have
a
bunch
of
applicants
that
we
kind
of
like
we
like
because
of
the
criteria,
we
might
be
we'll
be
flexible.
B
But
commissioner,
garcia
comment.
D
D
But
then
again
that
may
be
difficult
to
say.
I
would
suggest,
as
part
of
consulting
with
hr
hr
score
process
should
be
such
that
you
can
take
the
application
in
the
scoring
process.
Just
like
you
do
a
cover
letter
and
a
resume
in
the
scoring
process
and
compare
those
head-to-head,
and
we
can
do
that
as
a
way
to
identify
the
top
scores
and
then
conduct
the
interviews
with
those
folks
which
will
pretty
much
be
the
same
questions.
D
It's
just
a
matter
of
doing
that
in
person
interview
and
asking
simple
questions
such
as.
D
Will
you
serve
in
a
nonpartisan,
non-partisan
basis
and
what
which
there's
a
number
of
reasons
that
face
to
face,
or,
albeit
virtual
interviews,
take
place
so
that
that's
what
my
my
take
would
be
first
to
yes
or
no's,
and
determine
eligibility
on
that
then
take
what
they
submitted
in
writing
in
a
simple
score
sheet
in
writing.
Compare
those
and
then
from
those
take
people
to
interview.
D
B
Thank
you.
I
guess
we're
I've
been
informed,
we're
we're
up
against
the
clock
here
so,
but
I
want
to
get
give
miss
kendrick
a
chance.
You
have
your
hand
up.
H
H
The
other
thing
is,
it
might
be
worth
your
time
if
we're
going
to
provide
folks
with
technology,
so
they
can
participate
to
put
that
somewhere,
so
whether
it's
in
the
application
or
in
the
job
description,
if
we're
providing
technology
and
that's
something
to
think
about,
because
if
lack
of
technology
such
as
access
to
internet
or
access
to
a
laptop
or
both
that,
if
that's
a
barrier,
I
just
want
to
put
that
in
the
space.
B
Okay,
let
me
answer
your
first
question
or
give
me
a
tentative
answer
and
I'll
defer
to
our
clerk,
mr
carl,
or
to
carol
bashoon.
I
recall
back
in
1981,
getting
interviewed
by
the
charter.
Commission,
that's
how
I
got
on
the
the
original
reapportionment
commission
and
we
were
all
in
the
interviews-
were
live
down
at
city
hall
and
they
were
all
open
to
the
public
and
what
carol?
What
do
you.
I
Think,
commissioner,
kozak
typically
when
the
city
does
interview
individuals,
it
is
not
open
to
the
public
and
also
when
they're
they
are
scoring
sheets
or
discussing
applicants
to
determine
who
they
will
interview.
That
is
not
open
to
the
public,
and
so
I
would
suggest
that
maybe
those
are
issues
that
you
could
discuss
with
the
hr
staff
to
see.
If
that's
advisable,
I
mean
I
I
would,
I
think,
a
lot
of
information
that
is
not
public
would
be
discussed
in
the
interview
and
also
during
the
scoring
process.
I
So
I
don't
know
that
there's
a
statute
that
requires
these
to
be
open
to
the
public.
Therefore,
it
might
be
best
to
not
have
them
open
to
the
public,
but
I
think
that's
a
good.
Those
are
good
questions
for
the
hr
staff
that
could
assist
you
and
that
might
be
a
good
meeting
between
the
two
chairs
and
nicole
and
the
hr
staff.
B
J
D
Quickly
to
speak
to
what
miss
kendrick
said
about
technology,
it
may
gotten
may
have
gotten
lost
in
all
the
markups
and
back
and
forth,
but
we
did
have
a
spot
in
there
where
we
said
that
if
people
lack
technology
or
access
that
we
would
make
accommodation
for
them
to
fully
participate
in
meetings.
K
B
One
more
carol,
ms
bashoon,
you
had
your
hand
up
still.
B
Unless
there
are
any
significant
questions
about
the
rest
of
of
this
and
remember
we're
going
to
meet
next
week,
and
so
anybody
that's
got
a
question:
can
contact
either
myself
or
or
jill
or
have
us
contacted
through
nicole
or
casey,
but
we
have
one
more
item
on
the
agenda
and
that
is
item
number
six.
B
Reviewing
the
redistricting
rules
and
procedures
is
that
they
pertain
to
the
process
of
the
redis
redistricting
advisory
group
member
selection.
Do
we
have
anything
that
we
need
to
deal
with
on
item
number
six?
Anybody
have
any
comments.
B
B
I
think
there's
scrolling
the
the
item.
G
I
think
the
reason
this
was
listed
as
an
agenda
item
was
chair.
Garcia's
thought
that,
because
the
rules
and
procedures
do
have
elements
that
pertain
to
what
the
advisory
selection
work
group
is
doing,
it's
good
to
go
through
those
items
just
for
transparency
for
the
public
to
follow
and
connect
those
dots
if
they're
not
attending
both
or
viewing
both
both
types
of
meetings
between
the
rules
meetings
and
these
meetings.