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From YouTube: November 17, 2021 Bicycle Advisory Committee
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A
Welcome
everyone
to
the
november
17th
meeting
of
the
minneapolis
bicycle
advisory
committee.
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A
This
meeting
may
involve
the
remote
participation
by
members,
either
by
telephone
or
other
electronic
means
due
to
the
local
public
health
emergency
novel
coronavirus
pandemic.
Pursuant
to
the
provisions
of
minnesota
state
statutes,
section
13d
.021
welcome
everybody
glad
to
have
you
here
today.
We
will
start
off
with
having
millicent
call
the
roll.
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A
Thanks
melissa,
anybody
else
who
missed
their
name
when
role
was
called
or
was
not
called
and
would
like
to
introduce
themselves.
A
Okay,
I
think
that's
everybody
then
thanks.
I
would
entertain
a
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda
and
accept
the
october
27th
full
bac
minutes.
A
Being
none
and
hearing
none,
I
will
have
nelson
call
the
roll
okay.
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Okay
janice,
I
jennifer.
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A
Thank
you,
millicent.
We
have
sort
of
a
short
agenda
today.
There
are
a
lot
of
actions
under
the
engineering
subcommittee
report,
but
because
we
didn't
have
a
5e
subcommittee
meeting
this
month,
we
hopefully
will
get
to
end
a
little
early.
Today,
marty
is
going
to
be
leading
us
through
the
engineering
subcommittee
report
and
marty.
Is
this
your
your
first
time
going
at
solo?
A
Yes?
Well,
you
have
me
and
philip
as
back
up
on
procedural
stuff
if
you
need
support,
but
I
am
very
excited
that
you
are
going
to
be
doing
our
engineering
subcommittee
report
today.
N
All
right,
hey
everybody,
engineering,
committee,
members
here
and
hey-
I
just
wanted
to
say
real,
quick
anybody.
That's
on
the
engineering
committee,
if
you
feel
like
you
want
to
chime
in
you,
can
we
have
like
four
different
projects
that
were
coming
up
and
three
have
motions
so
alyssa?
Should
I
do
the
motions
first,
or
should
I
go
through
a
little
explanation
of
each
one.
A
N
N
It
was
led
by
ross
tillman
and
at
their
last
presentation
we
told
them
as
a
committee
that
we
wanted
a
one-way
bike
lane
to
be
a
two-way
lane,
and
so
they
shared
two
concepts
with
us
that
we
took
a
look
at
this
is
a
fairly
funded
deal
and
the
concept
one
would
have
three
travel
lanes
concept,
two
had
two
travelings
and
basically,
we
had
already
agreed
to,
and
can
somebody
in
the
engineering
committee
help
me
with
this?
Did
we
decide
on
concept
two.
N
Yes,
all
right,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
so
yeah
we
did
matthew
h,
gave
us
a
motion
for
that.
I
don't
know
if
people
need
any
more
information
about
it,
it
has
been
pushed
back
to
construction
from
2023
to
2024
because
of
the
e-line
brt
project,
so
should.
J
I
read
them.
I
just
had
a
a
quick
question.
I
noticed
that
the
with
the
bus,
the
bus
lane
is
marked
as
it
is
on
hennepin
with
red
paint.
Does
that
imply
it's
a
bus
only
from
you
know
morning
and
evening
commute
it
wasn't
at
the
meeting
so.
L
As
far
as
I
understand
it,
it
would
be
all
the
time.
J
Oh
okay,
okay,
so
it's
different
than
hennepin
avenue
or
at
least
currently
hempen
avenue.
L
I
guess
maybe
the
other
thing
I'll
say
is
that
I
think
it
still
is
ongoing
the
coordination
with
metro
transit
so
possibly
once
they
actually
arrive
on
the
preferred
concept,
then
they
might
get
more
specific
about
that
kind
of
detail
as
well.
O
Maybe
just
think
for
some
additional
context.
In
case
you
know,
bus
lanes
are
fairly
new,
so
typically
bus
lanes
will
either
be
you
know,
24
7,
full
time
or
in
the
peak
time,
which
would
be
like
a
rush
hour.
You
know
a
couple
hour
period
and
then
other
times
of
the
day
it
could
be
used
for
parking
or
travel.
General
purpose
travel
that
type
of
thing.
O
N
Okay,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
go
with
the
motion.
Then
the
bac
recommends
that
the
hennepin
avenue
first
avenue
northeast
modern
model
improvement
team
pursue
concept
two
because
it
includes
a
curved
protected
bikeway
and
a
dedicated
transit
line.
Our
lane
we
also
put
in
there
that
concept
one
lacks
both
of
the
features
and
by
taking
a
very
minimalist
approach
to
any
of
these
changes
from
existing
conditions.
N
It
fails
to
fulfill
the
promise
of
a
major
project
as
far
as
safety
goes,
but
we
do
commend
the
team
on
a
proposal
for
improving
and
simplifying
the
intersection
of
fifth
street
with
hennepin
central
all
right.
What
are
we
thinking.
A
I
will
just
jump
in
marty.
There
was
a
sentence
you
omitted
and
because
we
have
someone
calling
in
and
they
can't
see
the
screen,
you
do
that.
If
it's
going
to
be
part
of
the
motion,
if
you're
proposing
that
it
be
stricken
from
the
motion,
then
you
don't
have
to,
but
otherwise
that
second
to
last
sentence
would
be
needed
to
be
read.
N
We
recommend
that
any
further
pursuit
of
concept
1
be
discontinued
and
that
further
community
engagement
focus
on
variations
of
concept.
Two.
A
Any
discussion
I
see
matthew
hendricks's,
coming
off
mute.
F
I
yeah-
I
was
just
gonna,
give
a
little
bit
of
kind
of
long-range
background
on
this,
where
this
motion
came
from
from
my
perspective.
So
it's
really
an
interesting
situation,
because
for
many
years
not
that
long
ago,
getting
any
kind
of
a
bike
lane
would
have
been
considered
a
win,
and
you
know
not.
F
That
long
ago
we
were
just
looking
at
bike
lane
miles
and
and
bike
lanes
were
considered
sort
of
the
peak
of
what
could
be
accomplished,
especially
on
a
busy
street
like
this,
and
when
I
say
not
that
long
ago
I
mean,
in
the
scope
of
you,
know
decades
of
looking
at
streets.
So
it's
not
it's
not
without
precedent
to
see
a
street
proposed
with
a
bike
lane
just
put
it
that
way.
F
However,
about
I
want
to
say
six
or
seven
years
ago,
things
started
to
shift
towards
protected
bike
lanes
as
being
recognized
as
a
lot
more
effective.
Some
of
the
issues
with
standard
or
what
were
previously
standard
bike
lanes
are
that
it.
It
provides
no
more
protection
to
a
bicyclist
than
just
the
line
of
paint
on
the
on
the
ground,
and
so
there's
really
nothing
preventing
motor
vehicles
from
from
you
know,
sweeping
over
to
the
bike
lane,
there's
nothing,
no
kind
of
physical
barrier
separating
the
bike
lane
from
fast
moving
traffic.
F
Other
issues
with
just
a
painted
bike
lane
with
no
physical
protection,
include
the
fact
that
the
bike
lane
often
gets
used
as
de
facto
snore
snow
storage
space
for
much
of
the
winter,
and
if
the
snow
isn't
stored
directly
in
the
bike
lane
oftentimes
snow
is
stored
in
the
parking
lane
and
then
the
parking
parked
cars
encroach
on
the
bike
lane
significantly
sometimes
entirely
so.
There's
there's
challenges
with
winter
maintenance
on
standard
bike
lanes
that
haven't
been
really
adequately
addressed
over
the
years
and
there
are
a
number
of
other
issues.
F
I
think
the
quickest
way
to
summarize
it
all
would
be
to
say,
especially
for
the
population
of
more
cautious
or
new
bicyclists
bike
lanes
on
busy
streets,
aren't
necessarily
enough
of
an
infrastructure
change
to
make
people
comfortable
switching
over
to
biking
or
to
biking
on
those
routes.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
the
background
to
why.
F
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
motion
and
I
think
it's
really
important
important
that
for
these
corridors,
which
are
quite
busy
but
also
have
many
destinations
that
are,
you
know,
within
reach
of
a
lot
of
people
in
terms
of
distance,
that
you
know
they're,
perfect
destinations
to
bike
to
getting
really
the
best
possible
bike.
Infrastructure
makes
sense
here
and
I
think
matthew
deardoll
might
be
up
for
sharing
a
little
more
detail
on
like
on
the
technical
side
of
what
I
was
sharing.
O
Yeah,
you
know,
I
think
there
was
there's
some
interesting
conversation
at
the
at
the
subcommittee
about
the
the
two
options
and
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
agree
with
the
way
matthew
framed
kind
of
the
difference
between
the
two.
You
know
I
started
in
this
job
in
2015
when
the
the
we
were
updating
or
we
were
adding
like
an
addendum
basically
to
the
2011
bicycle
master
plan,
because
we
were
hearing
from
more
and
more
people
that
that
they
just
simply
do
not
feel
comfortable
without
some
physical
or
vertical
separation
from
cars.
O
And
so
we,
you
know,
passed
the
2015
protective
bikeway
plan
and
have
been
building
those
and
then,
when
we
went
to
to
develop
the
transportation
action
plan,
the
biking
component
had,
I
think,
by
a
fair
margin,
the
most
comments
on
any
of
the
topics
and
the
one
of
the
central
themes.
I
think
the
main
theme
from
that
is
even
bollards
aren't
enough
and
we
should
really.
We
should
really
be
providing.
You
know
concrete.
O
You
know
in
our
in
our
protective
bikeways
and
so
there's
more
more
of
an
emphasis
on
that
physical
separation.
So
I
just
think
the
there's
a
lot
of
room
for
different
opinions
on
the
two
options
totally
and
I'll-
just
note
that
that
I
think
they're
very,
very
different.
So
I
support
this
motion
from
that
that
perspective.
P
P
You
know
my
experiences
with
the
narrow
lanes
have
not
been
very
good
in
terms
of
getting
them
cleaned
and
and
maintained,
and
that
kind
of
thing
six
feet
is
large.
I
went
to
the
I
had.
I
walked
over
to
the
tenth
avenue
opening
the
other
day
yesterday,
and
it
was,
I
was
just
like
wow,
isn't
that
beautiful?
P
O
Well
and
something
I
I
love
that
we're
talking
about
because
it
I
I
show
like
a
six
foot
bike,
lane
plus
five
foot
buffer
in
the
drawing,
and
then
you
know
within
that
buffer.
I
see
you
know
the
concrete,
which
is
typically
two
feet
wide
and
jordan.
O
I
don't
know
if
that's
how
that's
envisioned
so
I
mean
that
there
will
be
more
than
six
feet
of
space
from
the
curb
to
the
other
curb
if
that
makes
sense,
I
think,
because
the
you
know,
the
two
foot
buffer
will
probably
be
in
the
middle
or
sorry.
The
two
foot
concrete
will
be
within
the
middle
of
that
five
foot
buffer,
so
you'll
get
probably
an
extra
foot
and
a
half
or
something
like
that
two
feet.
O
Maybe
so
I
think
it'll
be
plenty
wide
to
clear
and
to
bike,
hopefully
side
by
side,
and
things
like
that.
Q
L
Say
that
the
where
the
curb
is
that
gutter
pan
is
typically
two
feet
wide
and
that
would
be
ex
not
included
in
the
six
foot
that
you
were
shown
likely
and
then
yeah
matthew
to
the
I
think,
you're
also
saying
to
the
concrete
curb
that
separates
bikes
from
moving
vehicles.
There
also
would,
I
think,
be
a
clear
space
there
of
at
least
a
foot,
if
not
two
feet.
Q
C
North
spikeway
hold
on
hold
on
marty.
Are
we
gonna
vote
on
all
the
actions
all
together.
A
I
think
today,
since
we
have
a
lighter
agenda
and
we're
not
crunched
for
time,
let's
vote
on
them
separately,
so
we
can.
If
anybody
has
to
drop
off
early,
that
we
can
wrap
some
things
up
so
milson.
Would
you
be
willing
to
call
the
roll
on
this
motion?
Yes,.
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N
N
N
N
The
plan
includes
a
seven
foot
bike
lane
with
a
1.5
foot
buffer
on
both
sides
of
the
road
from
penn
to
humboldt
and
one
13
feet.
Two-Way
roller
protected
bikeway
from
humboldt
to
lindo
at
our
last
meeting
janice
would
have
had
a
motion
just
to
support
that
project,
so
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
we
move
on
from
that.
N
J
Phillip,
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions
again.
I
wasn't
able
to
to
be
there
for
the
presentation.
I
looked
at
the
at
the
pdf
there's
at
fremont
there's
a
travel
lane
which
is
17
feet,
which
I
I
didn't.
I
didn't
quite
understand
why
traveling
would
balloon
out
to
being
that
wide,
so
that
was
sort
of
just
one
question
and
then
it
looked
like
there
were
only
two
two
blocks
where
parking
would
be
allowed.
J
I
think
I
think
it
was
on
the
north
side
and
that
in
looking
at
the
at
the
aerial
it's
like
well,
this
is
not
commercial.
I
was
just
sort
of.
I
was
just
sort
of
surprised
and
I,
the
questions
are
just
because
as
a
as
a
bikeless
as
a
bicyclist,
when
you,
when
you're
confronted
with
these
different,
I
mean
any
anything
other
than
just
sort
of
block
after
block
of
the
same
is
you
know,
can
be
a
little
disoriented
just
to
certainly
new
bicyclists.
J
O
Anyway,
maybe.
J
Okay,
that
would
certainly
make
more
sense,
and
it's
it's
certainly
great.
I
mean
it's
really.
It's
really
great
to
see
the
you
know
the
parking
which
is
just
underutilized
fewer
parking,
but
I
I
would
probably
just
take
those
two
blocks
and
skip
the
parking
there,
but
not
a
big
deal,
I'm
certainly
in
favor
of
the
motion.
We
should.
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J
Oh
and
that's
the
typical
existing,
I
think
so
my
error.
Okay,
thanks
for
checking
dan.
N
N
Crossing
of
121
will
have
some
protection
and
we,
as
a
bicycle,
we're
hoping
that
we
could
take
this
motion
as
we
support
it.
The
way
it
is
presented.
H
I
could
just
say
say
something
about
the
121
crossing.
I
was,
I
was
pretty
happy
given
their
restraints,
since
it's
not
city
owned
and
there's
no
change.
As
far
as
the
structure
of
the.
D
H
If
you
take
a
look
at
the
cross
section,
it's
it's
just
kind
of
a
nice
kind
of
best.
We
can
do
approach,
but
the
city,
the
planner.
I
forget
the
name
of
the
person
who
presented,
but
they
talked
about
the
future
of
that
intersection
and
hopefully
making
it
something.
H
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D
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B
N
N
It's
going
to
be
the
city
is
going
to
repair
concrete
streets,
starting
in
2022,
there's
going
to
be
two
intersections
where
they
hope
to
improve
the
safety
of
the
geometry
at
the
minnehaha
avenue
at
east
franklin
avenue
and
minnehaha
at
21st
avenue
south.
This
christian
christian
is
going
to
be
bringing
this
project
this
proposal
back
to
us
in
mid
late
winter.
N
N
West
40th
street
bikeway,
presented
by
dan
edgerton
traffic,
extends
from
king's
highway
to
stevens
avenue.
The
plan
adds
bikeways
as
part
of
the
sealcoat
project,
replacing
two
existing
strike
bike
lanes
with
a
two-way
bowler
protected
bikeway
on
the
south
side
of
the
street.
The
timeline
is
going
to
be
installed
in
july
or
august
of
2022.
N
It's
at
30
percent
right
now.
They
plan
to
finalize
it
by
the
end
of
the
year.
They
do
not
have
any
plan
to
come
back
and
present
it
to
present
this
to
the
bac
aaron
s
said:
extra
protection
might
be
needed
since
cars
could
currently
park
in
the
bike
lane
after
coming
out
of
the
car
wash
on
the
north
side
of
nicolette.
A
I
think
that
was
good.
Would
anyone
like
the
motion
repeated.
A
Thanks
maya
discussion.
O
If
I
may,
I
I
think
an
aspect
of
this
might
have
been
a
little
bit
undersold
by
the
by
dan,
the
the
project
manager,
so
I
want
to
maybe
sell
it
a
little
more
too.
O
This
this
connection
was
on
our
aaa
network
map,
but
it
was
not
programmed
at
all,
and
so
it
to
me
it's
it's
fairly,
responsive
to
something
that
we've
heard
from
the
pedestrian
advisory
committee
and
bicycle
advisory
committee
for
years,
which
is
to
be
responsive
and
move
quickly
to
make
things
like
this
happen
and
with
you
know,
with
the
bryant
avenue
reconstruct
and
the
work
on
blazdale
and
grand
and
some
of
the
intersection
geometries
that
were
included
for
this
particular
route.
O
I
think
the
decision
to
just
go
ahead
and
design
it
and
install
it.
The
next
year
is
is
somewhat
unprecedented.
Maybe
in
this
way-
and
I
think
it's
very
responsive-
so
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
both
from
you
know
my
employer's
perspective,
but
also,
I
think
you
all
have
a
lot
to
do
with
that
type
of
response
to
an
opportunity
like
this.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
makes
sense,
but
I
think
this
is
a
very,
very
exciting
project.
A
Thank
you,
yeah
thanks
matthew.
I
would
agree.
I
it
it
feels
like
it
has,
has
been
a
long
time
coming
in
terms
of
getting
folks
to
be
able
to
just
do
some
good
stuff
and
not
have
it
take
four
or
five
years.
So
phillip.
J
Yeah,
I
really
wanted
to
commend
steph
for
having
the
the
parking
analysis.
I
think
this
is
the
most
thorough
data
we've
seen
in
one
of
these
presentations
and-
and
while
you
know
I
think,
parking
is
important
to
the
point
of
you
know
for
elderly,
for
you
know
small
business
people.
J
We
know
we
need
parking,
but
this
just
yet
again
shows
that
we
simply
have
too
much
parking
and
especially
parking
paid
for
by
the
public
for
private
vehicles,
so
I
think,
showing
the
data
and
showing
that
it's
not
a
problem
which
in
this
case
to
remove
move
parking
along
I.
So
I
think
this
was
just
great
great
to
see
the
data
really
really
appreciate
it.
A
D
D
D
G
C
I
J
C
H
C
L
N
N
The
project
is
adjacent
to
the
city
view
school
at
4th
street
north
and
34th
avenue
north
its
schedule
develops
concepts
now
by
50
by
january,
engagement
is
going
to
be
january
through
april
the
safe
routes
to
school
project
with
the
goal
of
enhancing
the
bike
network.
Currently
there
there's
a
lot
of
parent
congestion
there
at
the
drop-off
spot
and
accept
excessive
speeding
by
cars
on
4th
street
north
they're.
N
Looking
for
a
way
to
calm
traffic
treatments
for
the
next
for
the
next
term
or
near
term,
aaron
has
suggested
ways
to
make
fourth
street
north,
not
a
through
street
and
bria,
will
return
to
the
bac
in
a
few
months
with
more
concepts.
So
she'll
be
coming
back
to
give
us
more
details
so
alyssa,
that's
all.
I
have.
A
Thank
you
so
much
marty
that
was
a
very,
very
efficient
engineering
subcommittee
report
for
having
four
motions
in
it.
So
I
appreciate
that
any
anybody
else
who
attended
engineering
subcommittee
have
anything
before
we
jump
onto
discussion.
I
see
jenny's
hand
this
up.
E
Thanks
alyssa,
I
just
was
going
to
make
a
comment
on
the
safe
routes
to
school
project.
At
city
view.
E
I
was
able
to
go
on
the
walk
audit
that
the
city
sponsored
and
there
were
some
school
staff,
including
a
school
board
member
there,
so
that
was
really
great
director
el
amin
was
there
as
a
resident
of
the
area.
You
know.
Public
safety,
as
I've
been
known
to
say,
is
a
big
concern
and
it
does
affect
us
in
safe
routes
to
school
like
walking
and
biking.
The
bike
fleet
was
to
be
at
city
view,
this
fall
and
because
there
were
so
many
incidents
what
what
happens
in
a
school?
E
If
there's
an
incident
outside
your
building
that
could
affect
your
safety,
you
get
put
on
a
cold
yellow
and
they
had
so
many
already
in
september
that
the
pe
teacher
just
wasn't
comfortable
biking
and
said:
can
we
wait
till
the
spring
so
just
to
have
that,
and
certainly
I
would
echo
echo
the
speeding
and
the
the
behavior
of
cars
and
a
lot
of
people
thinking
about
safe,
walking
and
safe
crossing
the
city
is
also
surveying
the
city.
E
The
city
is
surveying
the
city
view
school
community
and
that
survey
kind
of
bubbled
up
to
me
kind
of
through
the
channels,
and
I
was
just
really
so
glad
to
see
that
it's
zero
percent
and
just
engaging
you
know
just
working
really
hard
to
engage
the
school
community
this
early
in
the
project.
So
thanks
city
of
minneapolis,.
B
A
Jenny,
phillip.
J
Yeah
in
just
reading
over
the
or
maybe
it
was
the
the
pdf,
the
term
low
low
stress
bikeway
was
was
used.
Is
that
synonymous
with
triple
a
network.
J
No,
it
was
written
in
the
maybe
it
was
the
fact
sheet
for
the
city
view
safe
after
school.
O
Sure,
interestingly,
so
we
actually
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
whether
or
not
we
should
call
the
network,
low
stress,
bikeway
network
or
something
like
triple
a
all
ages
and
abilities,
and
we,
you
know
to
me
it's
to
me:
they're
synonymous,
they're
the
same
idea:
okay,
all
ages
and
abilities.
I
think
we
went
with
that
sounds
maybe
more
positive
and
inclusive
and
or
something
I
think
it's
good,
but
you
know,
low
stress,
is
kind
of
like
also,
I
think,
a
good
goal
for
right.
It's
like
standard
bike
lanes
are
high
stress
right.
O
You
don't
feel
comfortable,
there's
cars.
Next
to
you,
it's
like
you
kind
of
like
holding
the
handlebars
tight,
you
know,
and
then
you
know
if
you
have
a
protective
bikeway
or
a
neighborhood
greenway,
it's
less
stressful
and
you're,
just
comfortable
and
so
yeah.
I
think
and,
like
you
know,
I
think,
different
national
organizations
like
nafto
the
national
association
of
city
transportation
officials.
It's
a
group
of
cities
that
has
guidelines
for
cities
on
on
different
transportation
infrastructure.
O
A
A
good
reminder
for
us
all
that
not
all
the
terminology
in
this
field
is
as
intuitive
as
it
seems
once
you've
been
around
it
a
number
of
years
so
well.
Well,
we
will
close
out
the
engineering
subcommittee
report.
A
The
only
item
we
have
for
discussion
is
is
me,
is
bac
social
activities,
so
this
this
might
be
two
minutes
of
me
talking.
This
might
be
a
20
minute
discussion
if
people
have
thoughts
about
it,
but
I
just
wanted
to
check
in
with
the
committee
as
a
whole,
because
you
know
at
some
point
this
summer.
A
I
think
many
of
us
had
seen
a
potential
horizon
where
we
might
be
doing
in-person
things
again
sometime
soon,
including
the
bicycle
advisory
committee
meeting,
and
it
seems
pretty
clear
that
at
least
for
the
near
term
that
that
is
off
the
table
and
so
just
wanted
to
put
it
out
there.
I
know
that
folks
were
really
generally
pretty
excited
for
it.
A
For
those
of
you
who
could
make
the
august
bike
ride
to
have
some
in-person
interaction
in
a
way
that
felt
like
we
were,
you
know
mitigating
coped
risk
by
being
outside,
and
so
certainly
that's
more
challenging
going
into
winter.
Thinking
about
how
do
we
manage
covered
risks,
but
just
wanted
to
kind.
B
A
Check
in
and
see
if
there
was
interest
in
some
sort
of
bac
social
get
together
either
over
the
winter
or
in
the
spring,
because
we
won't
have
any
opportunities
to
be
meeting
together
in
person
for
the
foreseeable
future,
so
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
as
a
question.
If
folks
have
comments
about
that,
they'd
like
to
share
right
now,
you
certainly
can.
M
I
don't
know
if
this
would
be
a
good
activity,
but
just
thinking
about
like,
what's
on
the
calendar
in
the
city
of
minneapolis,
I
know
that
the
luminary
lap
it's
a
really
popular
thing
to
do,
and
we
could
also
be
pedestrians
for
a
day
as
well.
If
we
wanted
to
bike
there
and
then
walk
through
as
a
group,
I
doubt
the
city
would
subsidize
the
cost
of
our
participation
for
those
tickets.
But
technically
it's
a
service
right
that
we're
promoting.
A
Q
Yeah
I
like
that
idea,
just
because
I
know
like
I'm,
I'm
trying
out
winter
biking
for
the
first
time,
but
I
know
not.
Everybody
feels
comfortable
with
that
or
doesn't
have
the
gear.
So
that
might
be
a
nice
sort
of
midway
point
where,
like,
if
folks
want
to
bike
there
or
after
or
something
like
that,
but
we
could
still
meet
up
and
go
look
at
sculptures
or
what
have
you?
That
seems
like
a
cool
idea.
I,
like
that
thought
process.
K
K
That
would
be
something
to
probably
organize
soon,
because
those
tickets
do
like
the
time
slots
fill
up
and
it
can
be
hard
to
get
them
as
you
get
closer,
but
I
would
also
be
in
favor
of
any
sort
of
winter
biking
or
social
activity
that
was
really
fun
this
summer,
when
we
did
that
it
was
great
to
see
everybody
and
talk
to
everybody.
So
definitely
would
be
into
that.
A
Cool,
I
don't
see
any
other
folks
jumping
off
of
mute.
So
I
think
what
I
would
ask
is
if
anybody
is
interested
in
being
part
of
the
what
I
will
loosely
call.
The
planning
committee,
which
is
probably
gonna,
be
like
two
or
three
people,
but
if
you
would
be
interested
in
helping
figure
out
what
our
winter
social
thing
might
be,
where
we
might
start
and
end
and
if
there's
an
activity,
you
can
either
raise
your
hand
using
the
teams
function
now
or
if
you
want
to
send
me
an
email
after
the
meeting.
A
I
imagine
we're
probably
not
going
to
be
doing
something.
I
don't
even
know
when
the
luminary
loppet
starts
happening
or
ends
date
wise.
Is
that
like
before
the
end
of
the
year
or
is
it
in
january
february?
A
Okay
january
february
feels
like
probably
a
more
feasible
time
frame,
and
that
will
be.
You
know
nice,
because
it's
six
months
out
from
our
august
ride,
so
so
not
urgent.
But
I
would
like
to
get
started
on
planning
that
at
some
point
in
december
or
january.
So
if
you
are
interested
in
being
part
of
the
planning
team
would
love
to
have
at
least
one
or
two
folks
jump
in
on
that
you
see
kaden,
says
hand
up
and
jessie
yes,
okay
and
maya
and
natalie
cadence.
A
A
I
won't
have
to
go
a
whole
year
before
seeing
all
of
you
in
person
again,
if
you
have
thoughts
or
ideas
on
anything,
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
any
of
the
folks
who
just
volunteered,
if
you
you
know,
have
an
idea,
but
you
aren't
really
the
person
to
don't
want
to
be
part
of
the
logistics
of
making
things
happen,
but
otherwise
look
for
an
update
from
that
group
sometime
in
january
february,
frame
cool
and
then
I
will
just
close
by
saying
if
there
are
other
social
activities
that
folks
would
like
to
propose,
certainly
like
we
could
do
things
that
are
more
formal
like
this,
but
we
definitely
used
to
have
when
we
met
in
person.
A
People
would
just
like
organize
a
happy
hour
after
a
meeting,
and
it
wasn't
as
though
the
chair
or
matthew
or
anyone
was
like
involved
in
formally
planning
that
people
would
just
invite
people
at
the
meeting
and
people
would
go
or
not
go
as
they
were
available.
So
if
other
folks
would
like
to
continue
to
organize
social
things
outside
of
this
sort
of
more
planned
structure,
you
certainly
are
welcome
to
say:
like
does
anybody
wanna,
you
know,
go
grab
a
beer
someplace
at
some
point
and
organize
social
activities
yourselves,
I'm
I'm
not
the!
A
I
don't
want
to
be
a
gatekeeper
of
that.
So
just
a
reminder:
cadence
do
you
have
something
else
to
add.
M
I
mean
if
people
are
interested
in
a
bike
related
social
event:
that's
geared
towards
spectating
at
state
cyber
cross
championships
this
weekend
up
in
bassett,
creek
park
lines,
valley,
they're.
Both
the
parks
are
like
next
to
each
other,
and
it's
very
likeable
if
you
were
biking
from
the
cities
there,
but
it's
the
last
event
of
the
year
on
the
calendar
for
that
discipline.
So
I'll
be
there.
If
anyone
else
is.
J
Alyssa
I
was
going
to
just
ask,
or
maybe
matthew,
ask
whatever
happened
to
the
the
state
legislation
that
was
constraining
commission
members
to
if
they
participated
remotely,
they
had
to
be
in
a
public
space,
yadda
yadda
thinking
that
maybe
eventually
well.
Of
course
we're
going
to
go
back
to
in
person,
but
in
person,
perhaps
with
hybrid,
depending
on
the
technology
city,
minneapolis
house.
So.
O
I'll
start
and
then
see
if
chris
or
milson
has
anything
to
add
or
correct.
All
of
that
is
still
underlying
as
a
as
a
future
near-term
issue,
meaning
that
the
state
law
is
a
thing,
but
since
the
city
has
extended
the
covid
emergency
at
the
local
level,
we
can
continue
doing
this
until
that
expires,
which
there's
no
evidence
or
or
thought
that
that'll
be
anytime
soon
that
I've
heard
so
at
some
point
in
2022.
I
imagine
we'll
totally
have
to
revisit
how
we
do
the
meetings
and
then
follow
the
law.
O
But
the
city,
the
coordinator
city,
clerk's
office,
will
give
us
guidance
on
that.
As
it
happens,
anything
to
add
or
clarify
correct.
Chris
nelson.
S
Yeah,
just
one
thing
you
asked
about
hybrid
scenario,
I
think
just
to
be
real
about
that
is
like
the
way
that
it's
structured
now
there
probably
won't
be
a
hybrid
scenario
unless
there's
a
change
in
that
state
law,
just
because
of
kind
of
the
barriers
that
that
state
law
puts
in
place
to
doing
that.
So
I
would
expect
that
once
the
emergency
order
ends,
it
would
just
be
a
fully
in
person
no
online,
no.
D
E
A
Cool
all
right,
I
think
I'm
going
to
close
out
discussion
on
bac
social
activities,
but
I'm
very
excited
to
start
planning
some
stuff
and
do
some
more
impromptu
things
that
folks
are
interested
in
that.
That
is
the
last
item
on
our
agenda.
So
with
that,
I
will
open
it
up
for
announcements.
J
Well,
I
would
jump
in
and
just
say
that
I've
been
in
contact
with
dan
miller
and
he
contacted
a
few
of
us,
so
his
mother
did
die
so
he's
not
here
today
and
so
certainly
thoughts
with
him
and
also
in
changes.
I
know
robin
robin.
I
don't
know
your
status
with
the
bac,
but
it
would
kill
me
if,
in
your
change
of
employment
with
the
city,
would
prevent
us
from
benefiting
from
your.
But
you
do
you
have
a
word
about
your
participation
on
bac,
going
forward.
T
Sure,
thanks
phil,
yes,
I
will
be
leaving
the
bac
after
the
next
meeting.
I
have
been
the
council's
representative
on
the
bac,
since
this
iteration
of
the
bac
was
was
created
back
in
2010.
I
want
to
say
I
don't
I
don't
actually
remember
so.
The
council
will
definitely
have
to,
I
think,
find
someone
new
to
put
into
this
role.
T
I
think
it's
a
pretty
good
idea
in
general
for
them
to
have
somebody
who
actually
works
for
a
council
member
it.
It's
actually,
I
think,
a
pretty
good
reminder
for
everybody
to
make
contact
with
your
appointing
authority,
especially
if
your
appointing
authority
is
new,
so
phil.
I
think
you
reaching
out
to
robin
wansley
and
just
everybody
who
is
is
appointed
by
a
particular
council
member,
especially
if
there
was
turnover
there
and
there
was
a
lot.
T
O
T
O
A
O
Thank
you.
Yes,
I
think
that's
why
it
felt
more
recent.
So,
yes,
it
sounds
like
in
about
the
march
april.
Time
frame
is
when
you
know
there'll
be
an
application
process
and
again
I
don't
know
a
lot
of
what's
gonna
happen
with
the
new
governing
structure,
and
all
of
that
one
thing
I
do
know
just
to
be
clear
is
like
is
your
everyone?
That's
appointed
now
will
stay
appointed.
You
know
with
the
change
until
until
the
new
application
process
runs
through.
O
So
there's
no
there's
no
change
with
that
until
until
there's
an
application
process,
if
that
makes
sense,
yeah
so
yeah
that'd
be
an
interesting
question.
T
In
in
addition
to
folks
individually,
having
conversations
with
whoever
that
the
person
is,
who
will
reappoint
you,
if
you
would
like
to
be
reappointed,
I
think
it
would
be
wise
for
the
body
to
make
contact
with
some
of
the
council
members
coming
in
who
who
might
be
inclined
to
be
supportive
of
non-motorized
transportation
ideas
to
see
if
they
think
that
it's
something
that
they
would
be
interested
in
having
their
staff
do
or
if
that
the
person
that
they're
looking
at
to
be
their
staff,
would
be
interested
in
in
doing
it.
T
It
also,
I
mean
we
have
a
space
on
the
bac
for
representative
from
the
mayor's
office,
and
I
don't
remember
if
anybody
who's
on
right
now,
maybe
matthew
hendricks
remembers
back
when
peter
genius
worked
for
betsy
hodges,
he
didn't
make
every
meeting,
but
he
made
most
of
them
and
he
was
very
active
and
played
kind
of
sort
of
like
a
similar
role
to
the
to
the
role
that
I've
played,
maybe
a
little
bit
less
just
like
able
to
make
every
meeting.
T
But
we
under
the
current
mayor,
I
think
we
had
someone
come
from
the
mayor's
office
for
approximately
three
or
four
meetings
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
term
back
in
2018
to
try
to
get
some
like
attention
from
this
mayor
and
you
know
get
any
focus
at
all
on
issues
related
to
transportation
broadly,
but
non-motorized
and
active
transportation.
I
J
Yeah,
that's
the
way
it
goes.
I
I
feared
it's
been
really
a
joy
and
really
excellent
to
have
you
with
us
many
many
years.
Obviously
so
many
years
yeah.
M
A
Well,
I
will
wait
one
meeting
to
wax
poetic
about
robin's
departure.
So
you
all
don't
have
to
hear
me
talk
about
it
twice,
but
I
am
heartbroken
that
robin
you
will
be
leaving
the
bac.
It's
it's
gonna
be
a
rough
transition.
I
think
for
all
of
us
and
you've
done
a
lot
of
really
good
work
so,
and
I
will
be
in
touch
with
you
shortly
about
whether
whether
or
not
you
would
like
a
goodbye
party
if
you
are
really
leaving
so
yeah.
R
Any
other
any
other
announcements.
Well,
I
was
just
gonna,
I
had
my
hand
raised.
This
is
janice.
I
was
gonna
say
about
about
both
things
robin
has.
Actually,
he
was,
I
think,
on
the
bac,
even
before
this
iteration,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
he
was
very
important
when
we
first
established
our
bylaws
and
he's
actually
served.
Also
as
chair
before
we
elect
a
chair,
you
know
and
kind
of
you
know
when
the
when
the
terms
start
so
yeah.
R
I
guess
we
should
talk
more
about
robin
next
time,
but
I
was
going
to
say
he
was
too
generous
to
peter
wigginius.
Now,
no
one
likes
peter
guinness
more
than
I
do.
I
really
I
admire
all
that
he's
done
for
the
city
and
bicycling,
but
as
a
member
of
the
bac,
I
think
I
could
probably
count
on
one
hand
the
number
of
meetings
he
went
to
and
in
fact,
at
one
point
I
wrote
to
the
mayor
and
I
think
this
might
he
was.
R
He
was
a
representative
when
ryback
was
mayor
and
ryback
loved
biking,
so
it
made
no
sense
to
have
a
bac
representative
who
was
a
no-show
and
actually
wrote
to
ryback
and
said
you
know
we,
you
have
a
representative,
he
doesn't
come
to
meetings
and
I
think
then
he
went
to
one
meeting
then,
but
anyway,
so
I
think
I
just
was
thinking
robin
was
a
little
bit
and
then
the
cur
then,
and
the
current
mayor
actually
did
appoint
someone,
and
I
only
remember
I
was
taking
minutes
and
certainly
at
full
meetings.
R
I
don't
think
she
came
to
more
than
one
full
meeting
when
she
was
first
appointed,
but
so
it
would
be
great.
Maybe
we
should
all,
and
maybe
if
the
mayor
got
18
letters
asking
you
know
his
bac
representative
to
actually
be
someone
who
comes
to
meetings.
I
don't
know
if
that
would
make
a
difference,
but
it
would.
R
Oh,
I
don't
know
what
else
is
going
to
say
about
the
park
board,
so
the
park
board
has
been
out
of
sync
with
appointments
from
the
beginning.
They
make
their
appointments
in
january.
Everybody
else
gets
appointed
for
for
june,
and
so
our
appointments,
I
think,
will
be
there.
There
are
one
applications
by
december
and
I
think
an
appointment
will
be
made
at
the
first
park
board.
Meeting
in
january
would
be
my
guess,
and
we
could
reach
out
to
our
representatives,
because
everybody
has
a
representative
on
the
park
board.
A
All
right,
any
other
announcements.
A
All
right
seeing
none,
I
will
adjourn
us.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
joining
us,
I'm
glad
we
can
continue
to
have
a
couple
shorter
meetings
towards
the
end
of
the
year
to
balance
out
some
of
the
very,
very
long
ones
we
we
we've
had
previously
so
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
wednesday
night,
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
all
next
month.