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A
B
This
meeting
will
be
recorded
and
posted
to
the
city's
website
and
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
public
access
and
transparency.
This
meeting
is
public
and
subject
to
the
minnesota
open
meeting
law.
At
this
time,
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role,
so
we
can
verify
a
quorum
for
this
meeting.
B
B
Second,
all
right
will
the
clerk
please
call
the
roll.
C
B
B
That
motion
carries
both
today's
agenda
and
the
minutes
for
july
2021
meeting
are
accepted
next
order
of
business.
Is
the
acceptance
of
public
comments
I'll
open
the
floor
to
invite
comments
from
members
of
the
community
who
are
attending
this
meeting?
We'll
limit
public
comment
to
a
period
of
no
more
than
two
minutes
per
speaker,
and
with
that
in
mind,
are
there
any
members
of
the
community
present
to
address
the
commission.
B
All
right
hearing,
none,
we
will
move
on
to
our
next
item
of
business,
which
is
bringing
up
unfinished
business.
B
First,
no
knock
warrants,
then
a
discussion
on
coaching
we'll
first
bring
up
the
the
matter
of
no
knock
warrants,
and
with
that
I
would
like
to
invite
our
city
staff
christopher
brand,
to
speak
with
us
in
regards
to
a
no-knock
warrant
presentation
that
we
received
from
him
last
time
we
met
and
seeing
if
there
are
any
updates
in
regards
to
that
initial
presentation.
E
So
I
have
started
to
work
on
gathering
the
data
for
that
I
can
show
you
a
little
bit
of
it
right
now.
My
plan
is
to
have
this
into
a
more
presentable
format.
Before
the
main
main
meeting.
Am
I
able
to
show
my
screen.
B
E
So
I
I
looked
at
the
the
search
warrants
that
were
no
knock
search,
runs
that
were
conducted
in
the
first
quarter
of
2020
and
then
from
that
just
to
kind
of
make
the
data
more
manageable.
I
did
a
random
sampling
of
ten
of
those
search
warrants
and
then
I've
got
the
categories
which
I
believe
cover
the
questions
that
we
talked
about,
except
for
cost.
B
E
E
A
E
But
most
of
the
search
warrants
are
for
narcotics
and
firearms.
They
were
off
unannounced
entry
and
then
I
noticed
if
they
were
nightcaps
or
not,
because
that
was
one
of
the
questions
that
was
raised
before
so.
Nightcaps
would
be
outside
of
the
hours
of
7am
to
8pm.
E
And
then
I
noted
down
the
justification
for
swat
team
unannounced
entry
in
all
cases,
apart
from
one
it
was
listed
as
safety
and
preservation
of
evidence.
In
one
case,
it
was
safety
only
out
of
this
random
sampling.
There
was
only
one
instance
where
the
named
target
of
the
warrant
was
not
in
the
house
in
all
of
those
samplings
evidence
was
recovered
and
no
injuries
were
reported.
E
Okay.
So
I
wanted
to
to
make
sure
that
these
are
covering
the
questions
that
you
thought
were
important
in
the
study,
and
then
I
will
increase
the
sampling
based
on
the
dates
that
we
discussed
in
the
initial
proposal,
and
then
we
had
talked
about
gathering
capturing
some
of
this
information
going
forward
to
see
if
any
policy
changes
that
had
occurred
in
2020
are
making
a
difference.
B
B
Thank
you
for
this.
I
really
do
appreciate
being
able
to
like
start
to
see
some
of
this
data
coalesce,
I'm
interested
in
you
said
you
pulled
10
random
search
warrants
from
a
total
universe
that
you
have
so
that
way,
we're
refreshed
on
it,
the
the
exact
source
of
the
data,
if
it's
not
already
obvious,
but
also
is
there
a
way
we
can
get.
B
E
Okay,
yeah,
I
mean
like,
I
could
certainly
express
the
the
data
I
had
in
the
excel
sheet
by
by
precinct,
and
you
know
making
some
some
pie
charts
for
a
large
sampling
of
the
data.
I
think
that
could
be
done
as
well,
so
just
to
take
you
through
from
the
beginning
there,
the
I
initially
gathered
the
data
using
vizinet,
which
is
the
dispatch
system
yep.
So
the
swat
team
has
a
particular
unit
number.
E
You
can
then
search
through
a
date
range
for
the
deployments
of
that
squad
or
that
unit,
and
then,
from
that
I
broke
down
the
cases
that
had
there
were
search
warrant
entries.
You
know
there
are
times
that
deployed
elsewhere
and
then
the
the
kind
of
universe
of
data
was
31
cases
and
that
was
reduced
down
to
10
using
the
randomizer
yep.
We've
mentioned
that
website
before
and,
as
I
said,
this
is
this
is
just
for
the
first
quarter
of
2020.
A
E
I
also
read
the
police
reports,
because
some
of
the
information
is
not
contained
in
the
warrant,
so
the
warrant
has
they
call
it
page
five,
it's
not
always
page
five,
it's
just
what
they
call
it
that
that's
an
inventory
of
the
evidence
that
was
recovered,
so
the
items
taken
from
the
property,
that's
really
what
you
get
back,
so
you
get
the
basis
of
the
warrant
and
then,
within
10
days
of
the
court,
it's
filed
page
5,
which
says
what
was
recovered.
E
B
And
from
the
10
that
you
randomly
went
through
this
process
with
what
was
your
experience
on
being
able
to
associate
the
information
invisinet
with
the
police
reporting
system?
B
E
A
E
E
B
B
Stamps
help
and
stuff
like
that,
but
having
a
reference
number
is
nice
and
you
know
you.
You
said
that
the
original
sample
for
an
entire
quarter
for
2020
for
q1
was
31..
I
imagine.
E
B
Will
increase
when
we
get
to,
like
you
know,
q2
q3
sort
of
areas?
Do
you
have
a
sense
of
I'm
trying
to
think
of
you
know,
barriers
to
productivity
here
you
know
all
of
a
sudden
if
we
very
thousand
cases
that
we're
going
through
that's
going
to
be
harder.
You
know
yeah.
E
In
in
very
general
terms,
you
know
you're
you're
entirely
right
that
quarter,
one
has
less
search
warrants,
you
know,
being
in
minnesota.
Search
runs
often
based
on
trash
polls
and
investigations,
and
you
know
the
weather
doesn't
help
with
that.
E
Something
else
that
we
had
discussed
before
would
be
to
take
an
earlier
sampling
because,
as
we
get
as
we
get
beyond
the
quarter,
one
of
2020,
with
the
pandemic,
hitting
with
the
murder
of
george
floyd,
you
know
those
really
changed
the
police
response,
so
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
earlier
data
yeah
to
get
to
get
a
more
accurate
picture.
Q.
E
Yeah-
and
it
is
my
understanding,
the
warrants
there
are
more
warrants,
and
this
is
just
my
general
understanding
are
done
between
quarter
two
and
three.
You
know
when
the
when
the
weather
is
better
people
are,
people
are
outside,
they
can
be
observed.
B
Makes
sense,
and
so
far
those
are
the
two
data
sources
we're
not
skimming
over
anything
with
this
spreadsheet
that
you
showed
us
right.
E
So
we're
not
going
over
anything.
The
other
data
source
that
we
had
briefly
talked
about
is
the
is
getting
the
search
warrants
from
the
court
system.
Yep
talked
about
some
of
the
barriers
to
doing
that.
The
search
warrants
I
looked
at
here.
I
pulled
them
from
the
the
police
reporting
system,
which
is
why
I
can't
just
show
them
in
theory.
E
They
should
be
filed
with
the
court,
but
it's
not
the
public
copy,
so
I
wouldn't
want
to
just
pull
them
up,
but
yeah
they
are,
they
are
available
from
the
courts,
but
you
have
to
go.
We
touched
us
on
the
challenges
before,
but
you
have
to
go
in
person
and
print
them
out.
Yeah
yep.
E
Yeah
yeah,
the
way
in
which
they
ordered
is,
is
they
group
them
by
year
and
then
quarter
so
every
search
warrant
in
hennepin
county
is
listed
under
that
one
file
number
for
that
quarter,
which
you
know
that
includes
27
ish
agencies,
plus
search
warrants
for
duis
and
devices,
and
not
just
not
just
properties,
not
just
unannounced
entry,
yeah.
B
B
Do
you
have
concerns
or
questions
regarding
the
particular
you
know
way
in
which
that
spreadsheet
was
created,
the
methodology-
I
also
just
want
to
take
a
moment
afterwards
to
make
sure
that
we
are
addressing
the
the
five
goals
of
the
methodology
report
we
talked
about,
but
I
want
to
provide
space
for
you
to
ask
questions
before
we
get
to
those.
F
F
Oh
thanks
as
usual.
I
appreciate
it
so
much
seems
like
you're
being
really
thorough
and
and
really
really
dedicated.
So
thanks.
D
Yeah
chris
is
super
awesome
and
you're
definitely
good
at
what
you
do.
My
my
my
question
is
with
so
with
with
this
report.
D
It's
well
will
it
or
I
guess
the
you're
kind
of
saying
clarifying
question
would
be
you
you're
kind
of
saying
that
the
police
report
is
kind
of
where
we
get
the
correlation
on
like
the
human
piece
of
like
what
actually
happened
so
we'll
be
looking
at
both
like
this
data
and
the
single
police
reports
that
go
with
them.
Is
that
kind
of
what
we're.
E
E
So
that's
both
the
basis
for
the
search
warrant
to
before
a
judge
and
then
also
the
reasons
why
it
needs
to
be
either
unannounced
or
nightcapped
on
announcement
account,
so
that
that's
contained
in
the
search
for
an
application
and
then
the
the
inventory
sheet
colloquially
known
as
page
five,
has
the
inventory
of
what
is
taken
during
the
search
warrant.
E
The
the
the
additional
questions
that
I
think
the
the
committee
was
something
he
was
focused
on
was:
are
people
injured
during
this
because
often
the
you
know,
the
justification
is
safety,
so
is
that
panning
out
that
would
that
would
all
be
contained
in
the
police
report?
The
the
search
warrant
return
does
not
say
if
people
were
injured
during
the
search
warrant
or
what
kind
of
use
of
force
there
was.
B
All
right-
and
I
think
it's
probably
important
for
us
to
constantly
be
going
back
to
you-
know
those
goals
like
we
were
talking
about
and
just
making
sure
were.
You
know
the
types
of
information
that
were
being
presented
even
in
this.
This
draft
form
are
reflecting
the
questions
that
we
want
answered
right,
so
I
am
going
to
copy
and
paste
the
exact
study
goals
from
the
draft
pcoc
research
and
study
proposal
that
we
had
submitted
in
our
agenda
from
last
week.
B
B
Three,
we
wanted
to
understand
the
health
and
safety
impacts
of
members
of
the
community
and
when
law
enforcement
are
executing,
no
knock
search,
warrants
use
of
force,
injuries,
for
example,
and
then
we
had
two
additional
points
that
I
have
written
down
here
for
essentially
being
comparing
the
financial
costs.
B
In
terms
of
police
resources
and
by
all
means,
stop
me
if
this
was
a
misinterpretation.
It's
going
off
of
my
notes
here
and
five
would
be
cost
to
a
property
owner.
A
E
So
the
law
enforcement
success
perspective,
I
think,
is
going
to
be
there's
a
few
different
ways
that
could
be
quantified,
one
of
which
kind
of
goes
beyond
what
we
were
looking
at.
What
we
are
looking
at,
but
I
just
think
it's
worth
mentioning.
You
know
there
are
times
where
search
warrants,
recover
items
which
would
be
illegal,
whether
that's
stolen
firearms
or
in
the
possession
of
someone
who
shouldn't
have
firearms
or
narcotics
that
doesn't
always
result
in
charges.
E
It
has
to
be
tied
to
an
individual
so
that
it's
just
something
to
be
aware
of
the
other
thing
is
that
there
are.
There
are
some
times
where
now
this
is
not
in
the
ones
that
I
found,
but
not
all
drug
crimes
are
necessarily
families,
so
you
know,
trace
amounts
of
certain
drugs
are
not
felonies.
Small
amounts
of
marijuana
or
not
drug
paraphernalia
is
not
so
there
is
there.
E
Is
that
kind
of
context
to
you
know
what
would
count
as
success
that
we
could
think
about
the
one
other
thing
is
that
for
cost
to
the
property
owner,
that
data
might
be
a
little
bit
more
difficult
to
to
gather
my
thought
process
there
is
that
the
the
city?
Probably
isn't
you
know
if
a
search
warrant
is
is
executed
where
it
should
be,
and
evidence
is
recovered.
E
The
property
owners
aren't
going
to
be
coming
to
the
city
with
a
bill.
Yeah,
that's
that's
the
one
other
thing
I
can
think
of
so
you
know
we
might
need
to
think
about
what
what
kind
of
damage
has
been
done
to
the
properties
and
what
the
average
cost
would
be,
rather
than
specific
examples.
B
Yeah,
I
agree
to
the
point
about
law
enforcement.
Success.
Correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong,
when
a
search
warrant
is
drafted
and
there
is
a
request
for
approval
of
a
search
warrant,
there
has
to
be
some
sort
of
intent.
You
know
articulated
intent.
B
The
reason
why
we're
even
entering
a
building-
or
you
know,
trying
to
execute
a
search
warrant.
Yeah,
that's
correct.
Would
that
be
narrow
enough
in
most
instances
to
be
able
to
say
the
achievement
of
success
is
whether
or
not
the
objective
of
the
the
purpose
of
the
search
warrant
has
been
achieved.
E
I
think
I
think
it's
possible.
There
might
be
some
examples
that
I
would
have
to
flag
for
further
discussion.
I'm
just
thinking
about
you
know
that
that
does
leave
a
little
bit
of
a
gray
area.
Sometimes
you
know
if
if
the
search
warrant
is
for
narcotics
and
only
drug
drug
paraphernalia
is
found,
that's
not
quite
quite
the
same
level,
but
it's
indicative
of
them.
You
know
the
war
and
being
correct.
Yeah
they're.
A
A
E
That
might
be
something
we
want
to
draw
attention
to,
at
least
that
yeah.
You
know
the
the
basis
of
the
warrant
was
based
on
firearms
and
narcotics,
and
only
narcotics
were
found.
So
I
think
I
think
we
can
certainly
find
a
way
to
display
that
data
yeah
I
mean.
B
E
B
Or
lack
of
an
arrest,
you
know,
but
not
often
not
all
the
time
is
there
arrest
there
might
be
detainment
and
no
arrest.
You
know
one.
E
If
that
person
wasn't
present-
and
I
think
on
the
on
the
list
I
had
that
was
happened
in
one
case-
yeah
yeah,
so
if
they,
if
they
named
a
specific
individual
in
the
search
run
and
they
weren't
there.
I
didn't
know
that.
E
B
Yeah
to
me,
I
see
that
as
lack
of
a
success,
you
know-
and
that
seems
fairly
clear
in
in
my
mind,
from
trying
to
view
the
law
enforcement
perspective
of
this.
If
we
want
to
go
and
get
this
person
and
d
at
least
detain,
if
not
arrest
this
person
and
then
that
person
is
not
there
that
to
me,
that's
a
clear,
you
know
not
able
you
were
not
able
to
achieve
the
intent
of
the
search
warrant.
F
Even
at
once,
even
if
we
found
extras
like
incidentals.
G
F
Like
yeah,
okay,
we
executed
a
search
warrant,
the
target
wasn't
there,
but
we
found
some.
You
know
something
I
I
have
a
hard
time
saying.
That
was
a
success
right,
but
I.
A
E
I
think
it
could
lead
to
a
wider
policy
discussion
once
we
have
the
full
data,
and
you
know
you
are
making
recommendations,
because
the
scenario
I'm
thinking
of
is,
if
the
reason
that
it
was
no
knock
is
because
of
the
criminal
history
or
behavior
of
this
particular
suspect
and
they're.
Not
there
did
it
have
to
be
no
knock
yeah
so
that
that
kind
of
situation
is
something.
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
know
how
much
data
we
have
that
supports.
That.
B
Could
we
break
these
variables
up
and
have
one
that
of
you
know
there
is
unintended
individual
and
then
success
of
detaining
or
apprehending
that
individual
and
then
one
about
intent
for
some
non?
You
know
human
related
intent
like
paraphernalia
drugs,
whatever
and
then
success
of
obtaining
those
tangible
items.
E
So
at
the
moment
I
have
it
as
a
column
for
target
of
warrant.
A
E
A
E
And
then
evidence
recovered,
you
know
if
if
they,
if
they're
inventorying
the
evidence,
then
I
think
about
that
as
a
yes
to
that
column
yeah.
So
there
is
in
the
example
I
had.
There
was
one
where
the
the
person
in
the
warrant
wasn't
there,
but
they
did
recover
narcotics.
B
First,
it's
person
or
thing
and
is
the
intent
to
find
a
person,
is
the
intent
to
get
a
thing,
the
success
of
that
and
then,
regardless
of
intent
executing
did
we
because
you
could
go
to
you
know
some
establishment
looking
for
narcotics
and
you
end
up
arresting
someone
there,
even
though
there
was
no
articulate
articulated
intent
to
arrest
an
individual
in
the
search
warrant,
an
arrest
is
made
through
the
execution
of
said
search.
E
C
E
Then
people
inside
are
found
in
there
and
you
know
constructive
possession
is
proven.
I'm
sure
there's
plenty
of
examples
of
that.
The
the
examples
I
was
thinking
of,
where
maybe
wouldn't
be
counted
so
much
as
success,
is,
you
know
we're
going
to
this
house
because
of
this
identified
individual
who,
we
believe
has
narcotics
or
firearms
they
go
to
the
address
and
then
that
person
isn't
there
and
maybe
they
find
some
stuff
but
yeah
yeah.
If
especially,
that
doesn't
especially
if
that
doesn't
result
in
in
that
named
person
being
arrested
later.
E
Yeah,
so
if
the,
if
the
warrant
names
in
the
individual
and
they're
they
are
there,
that's
a
I
put
that
down
as
a
yes
to
that
column.
If
the
warrant
says
you
know
we
we're
looking
for
contraband
at
the
moment,
I
have
it
down
as
evidence
it's
inventoried.
E
I
could
break
that
out
and
say
you
know
if
we're
looking
for
firearms,
where
firearms
found,
if
you're
looking
for
narcotics
when
our
codex
found
and
then
maybe
other,
although
I
I
don't
know
if
there
would
be
any
other
categories
there
aren't
in
the
pool
that
I
that
I
have
okay.
B
Yeah,
I
think
I
was
just
getting
tripped
up
with
the
idea
of
like.
Sometimes
the
intent
is
a
human.
Sometimes
the
intent
is
some
item.
Is
it
possible
or
do
you
think
it
would
be
useful
or
not
useful,
to
have
like
a
categorical
variable
to
just
simply
say
at
this
point?
The
target,
as
identified
in
the
search
warrant,
is
an
individual
or
is
an
item
so.
E
A
B
B
Do
you
guys
have
any
other
questions
regarding
this?
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
like
we
have
a
firm
understanding
of
you
know
one
the
differences
in
in
this
scenario,
because,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
creating
these
variables
to
have
chris
do
all
this
work
on
and
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
the
results
that
we
want
out
of
this.
F
I
I'm
following
okay,
I
don't
really
have
anything
to
add
it.
I
kind
of
figured
it
would
get
a
little
tricky
and
a
little
more
complex
than
we'd
hoped.
That's,
probably
true
of
everything.
So
I'm
I'm
all
right
with
it
and
then,
as
chris
gathers
more
data,
we
can
kind
of
process
that
and
think
about
how
how
we
want
to
define
success.
We
might.
G
F
Alter
that
a
little
bit,
certainly
to
make
the
report
the
end
report
more
digestible
by
by
most
people,
but
I
think
I'm
with
you
so
far.
It
makes
sense.
Okay,.
D
Yeah
yeah,
just
so
just
just
about
the
same
I'll.
Definitely
I'll
definitely
have
a
few
questions
here
there,
but
I
I
think
it's
been
a
really
good
kind
of
discussion,
navigating
what
success
looks
like
and
how
we
can
have
it
articulated
in
the
data.
So
it's
been,
it's
been
really
good.
Is
there
and
this
might
be
a
question.
D
I
guess
when
we
get
to
the
point
of
the
more
of
the
reports
part,
but
is
there
a
way
to
see
whether
you
know
what
what
happened
in
the
I
guess
not
see,
but
a
way
to
get
information
of?
You
know
whether
somebody
you
know
whether
somebody
did
get
hurt
while
doing
the
arrest
or
whatnot
would
that
be
in,
like
the
police
report
or.
B
B
And
and
while
you're
bringing
that
spreadsheet
up,
I
think
you
you
step.
You
mentioned
an
intricacy
that
I
really
didn't
think
about
before
and
I
feel
like.
We've
just
been
running
with
the
assumption
of
search
warrants
and
not
arrest
warrants,
and
now
that
we've
we've
talked
about
the
distinction
between
the
two
are
the
sample
of
warrants
that
you've
looked
at
all
search
warrants.
E
They
so
by
their
very
nature,
you
know,
and
a
restaurant
is
different-
is
very
different
to
a
search
warrant.
Yes,
I
think,
if
we
wanted
to
explore
that
as
a
possibility,
then
I
would
have
to
research
more
into
how
often
that's
done
you
know.
What
I'm
thinking
in
my
mind
is
that
quite
often,
arrests
are
done
on
a
what
it's
called
a
pc
pickup,
not
not
a
warrant
to
reach
a
specific
place.
E
I
think
that-
and
you
know
I
I
would
have
to
look
at
the
data
more
to
know
this,
but
I'm
also
thinking
that
a
lot
of
the
time
warrants
are
kind
of
go
to
a
fugitive
task
force
and
those
are
often
collaborations
between
federal
and
state
agencies.
You
know
it's
not
a
minneapolis,
it's
not
minneapolis
police,
so
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
that
data
would
be
reflected
of
what
was
available
to
us.
B
And
I-
and
I
just
know,
if
we're
asking
the
question
eventually,
someone
will
ask
the
question
as
well.
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
if,
if
it
is
opening
up
a
can
of
worms,
that
is
not
within
our
scope
of
what
we're
interested
in,
we
label
that
appropriately
of
making
sure
that
people
will
will
have
the
same
concern
of
well.
What
about
what
about
when
you're
going
to
you
know,
go
arrest,
somebody
and
that
sort
of
explanation
definitely
needs
to
be
part
of
our
limiting
our
scope
down
to
just
search
warrants.
I'm
fine!
B
Makes
it
a
completely
different
animal
for
us
to
be
able
to?
You
know,
wrap
our
data
heads
around.
E
I
think
we
should
we
should
look
to
see
what
data
might
be
available
on
that
I'll.
I
can
look
into
that,
but
I
completely
agree
with
you
that
that
yeah,
that's
you
know
it's
been
raised
at
this
point.
If
the
report
is
published
and
doesn't
even
say
we
have
not,
you
know
we
are
only
looking
at
search
warrants
or
you
know
it
doesn't
specify
that,
and
that
is
a
question.
That's
going
to
come
up
so
yeah.
E
B
E
Yeah
and
andrew
was
going
to
look
into
setting
up
a
meeting
with
mpd
about
the
costs
part.
You
know
the
basis
of
going
through
getting
a
search
warrant
and
then
I
think
that
is
also
a
good
time
where,
where
we
could,
you
know
pose
that
question
of
people
who
probably
know
more
about
how
the
search
warrant
process
well.
Yeah.
Sorry,
the
arrest
warrant
process
works.
F
B
I'm
just
looking
through
the
goals
that
we
put
into
the
chat,
making
sure
that
each
of
those
sorry
to
have
you
do
it
again,
I'm
just
I
want
to
be
able
to
compare
them
visually.
Do
you
mind,
throwing
that
spreadsheet
up
there
again,
one
more
time,
just
seeing
that
each
variable
has
a
reason
for
being
there.
You
know
obviously
unannounced
entry
and
night
capped
those
are
self-explanatory.
B
The
justification
clearly
speaks
to
the
the
reason
that
first
point
of
our
goal.
B
Target
of
war
at
home,
we
were
talking
about
that
in
terms
of
effectiveness
and
then
civilian
and
law
enforcement
injuries
definitely
touches
on
health
and
safety
aspects,
and
I
know
you
don't
have
that
data
right
now,
but
just
so
that
way
we
can
have
a
conversation
about
it.
Should
we
add
in
a
variable
here
and
just
leave
it
blank
of
like?
B
Are
you
thinking,
dollar
values
in
terms
of
ideals?
Here
I
know
we
haven't,
had
the
practical
conversations,
but
a
variable
of
dollar
values,
of
average
dollar
values
in
terms
of
impact
by
the
owner
that
number
five
financially
and
then
more
itemized
fiscal
costs.
I
think.
E
I
would
defer
to
commissioner
sparks
who
had
raised
that
as
an
idea.
You
know
my
my
thought
process
was
in
these
search
warrants.
You
know.
A
battering
ram
is
often
used
on
a
door.
E
You
know
that
would
be
like
property
costs.
I
can
think
of
is
looking
at
those,
but
then,
if
it
was
like
the
the
deployment
of
you
know,
unannounced
requires
a
swat
team.
Swat
team
has
x
number
of
officers
earning
so
much
per
hour
with
equipment,
and
you
know
there
could
also
be
a
financial
cost
of
deploying
the
swat
team
calculated.
B
I'm
just
thinking
each
of
them.
You
know
in
my
head
that
spreadsheet
should
have
a
variable
that
says
you
know
public
or
taxpayer
cost
if
we
want
to
say
it
like
in
a
and
a
more
sleek
way.
But
you
know
public
public
costs
such
as
deployment
and
then
you
would
have
property
costs,
but
obviously
again
that
starts
to
get
a
little
bit
more
gray.
We
have
to
think
about
what
the
average
cost
of
a
door
frame
is
essentially
and
then.
B
It
out
as
long
as
as
long
as
we
have
a
justification
as
to
why
we
come
up
with
the
number
that
we
come
up.
I
think
that's
fair
enough
and
obviously
it's.
It
is
an
element
to
the
understanding
of
where
we're
at
with
this.
It's
you
know,
the
entire
study
is
not
gonna,
be
based
off
of
you
know,
going
to
lowe's
or
other
home
supply
stores
and
understanding
the
cost
of
a
door
frame.
But
as
long
as
we
know
at
some
point,
those
types
of
variables
are
going
to
be
in
there.
A
F
B
B
Along
with
the
search
the
discussions
you
were
going
to
have
about
the
fiscal
impacts
from
the
city's
perspective,
also
looking
at
the
sample
size
that
we
have
you
mentioned
q1,
and
that
would
probably
be
better
if
we
wanted
to
expand
this
to
go
backwards
instead
of
forwards
and
I
think
getting
a
sense
of
what
q2
and
q3
would
look
like.
So
that
way
we
can
have
a
comparison
is
definitely
a
a
good
idea.
B
You
know
of
the
pre
covid
and
george
floyd,
post
covid
and
george
floyd
groups
would
definitely
make
sense
in
my
mind,
and
then
I
think
the
only
other
thing
that
we
need
to
have
a
conversation
about
at
some
point
in
the
future
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
be
now.
B
But
if
this
is
the
the
universe,
the
sample
of
no
knock
search
warrants
and
I'm
gonna
say
search
warrants
for
the
moment,
we
need
to
then
be
able
to
compare
that
to
announced
or
knocked
search
warrants
at
some
point,
and
so
we
need
to
be
able
to.
B
Further
along
the
process,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
this
side
of
the
the
no
knock
understanding
underway
and
we
get
some
like
summary
data
around
that
first
before
we
get
into
the
comparison
aspect
of
it.
But
that's
that's
the
pathway
that
I
see
us
going
down.
Does
that
make
sense
for
the
the
other
commissioners
as
well
as
for
chris.
B
Great
awesome
with
that,
I
will
table
this
discussion.
We
will
continue
to
hear
more
from
chris.
Thank
you
so
much
again
at
our
next
meeting
and
I
will
move
on
now
to.
G
Yeah
hello,
this
is
dave
picking
and
I'm
wondering
if
I
could
just
interject
briefly
on
this
project.
G
Sure,
communities,
united
against
police
brutality
has
been
suggesting
a
study
more
comprehensive
than
what
you're
doing
for
at
least
since
2014..
G
I'm
really
glad
you're
doing
this
with
the
no
knock
warrants
and
it's
probably
beyond
the
scope
of
the
pcoc
to
order
something
more
comprehensive,
but
we've
been
concerned
about
search
warrants
and
feel
that
the
police
department
needs
to
keep
probably
contemporaneous
records.
Rather
than
go
back
and
look
like
this
at
the
justifications
for
the
search
warrant.
How
often
the
search
warrants
are
approved
by
judges?
G
We
believe
it's
close
to
100
it's
a
rubber
stamp,
but
then
going
back
and
looking
and
at
what
is
found,
as
you
are
doing
there
because
and
if
things
aren't
found,
of
course,
there's
plenty
of
legitimate
reasons.
The
person
isn't
home,
but.
A
G
It
turns
out
the
person
hasn't
lived
there
for
five
years
or
that
they're
at
the
wrong
address,
or
that
there
is
no
evidence
that
these
people
ever
had
any
drugs
or
had
anything
to
do
with
this.
That's
important.
G
The
confidential
reliance
and
reliable
informants
are
not
the
confidential
informants
less
so,
and
the
officers
themselves
oftentimes,
we
believe,
are
not
entirely
truthful
in
applying
for
these
search
warrants.
It
would
be
good
to
know
how
often
the
search
warrants
don't
reveal
what
the
officer
said
they
had
probable
cause,
because
that's
the
standard
probable
cause
to
believe
that
was
there.
I
think
you
might
be
able
to
identify
some
problem
officers,
some
problem
units-
maybe
even
a
problem
precinct
in
that
way.
G
So
that's
something
we've
been
suggesting
for
a
long
time
after
you
do
this
with
just
the
no
knock
search
warrants.
Depending
on
what
you
find,
you
may
have
reason
to
contact
the
audit
committee,
which
has
done
some
excellent
audits
of
the
police
department,
and
this
is
an
area
we
feel
very
strongly
needs
to
be
audited.
G
Just
a
quick
note
on
the
cost.
Actually,
you
can
find
out
some
of
that
from
the
police
department
because
after
they
use
a
battering
ram
or
whatever
they
bring
in
a
locksmith
or
boarding
people
or
something
like
that
to
to
secure
the
property
and
the
property
owner
is
charged
for
that,
so
the
police
department
regularly
bills
people
for
the
damage
that
they
did,
which
you
know
may
be
legitimate
if
the
search
warrant
itself
is
legitimate,
but
those
figures
are
there,
at
least
as
a
minimum
cost
of
of
the
of
the
damage.
G
That's
done
in
terms
of
the
search
warrant,
sometimes
quite
unnecessarily
my
daughter's
house,
they
battered
through
a
door
that
was
unlocked,
you
know,
and
that
kind
of
stuff
that
goes
on
and
then
called
people
in
to
board
up
the
whole
house
at
you
know
exorbitant
costs.
So
that's
quite
in
quite
an
important
area
as
well.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
bicking.
I
I
I
appreciate
you
jumping
in
and
providing
a
little
bit
of
information
and
context
for
us
on
that.
Chris
I
see
your
hands
raised.
Do
you
do
you
want
to
say
something.
E
Yeah,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
that
spreadsheet
I
will.
I
will
turn
into
something
a
bit
more
presentable
to
send
you
this
this
week
in
advance
of
the
domain
committee
meeting
and
then
to
what
mr
mr
picking
touched
on.
You
know.
I
I
think
we
could
certainly
look
at
doing
a
data
request
to
the
courts
about
the
number
of
warrants
that
are
approved,
yeah
versus
not
approved.
E
I
think
that's
a
great
question
and
then,
as
far
as
the
cost
goes,
that
might
open
up
another
avenue
to
research
that
I
am
making
the
assumption
that
those
bills
go
onto
someone's
property
taxes
as
a
special
assessment.
I
could
be
wrong
there,
but
that
would
certainly
be
a
data
pool
that
we
could
access.
B
Yeah
I
mean,
let's
again,
if
it's
something
that
you
think
is
practical,
let's
look
into
it
and
see
if
it
can
be
helpful
in
building
up
this
data
set.
B
With
that
in
mind,
we're
going
to
move
on
to
our
second
discussion
item
on
coaching
and
I
do
believe
the
end
result
of
our
last
meeting
was
we
wanted
to
see
a
update
of
the
the
coaching
dashboard
or
a
dashboard
that
includes
coaching
as
a
response
to
complaints
against
officers,
and
I
was
wondering
either
chris.
I
don't
know
if
andrew's
on
chris
do
you
have
a
an
update
for
us
on
that
dashboard.
E
So
I
have
been
working
on
that
dashboard
with
with
andrew
andrew
is
not
not
here
today.
Part
of
that
is
a
meeting
about
doing
some
of
those
updates
to
the
website,
so
it
is,
it
has
been
created.
E
B
Okay-
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
I
wanna-
I
wanna-
pull
out
what
you
just
said
right
there
because
of
the
lawsuit.
B
Are
we
not
anticipating
a
update
in
terms
of
more
relevant
or
more
recent
data
than
2017.
E
B
B
On
that
note,
I
know:
we've
we've
said
that
the
dashboard
is
one
of
those
critical
tools
that
we
want
to
look
at
to
compare
between
intent
of
coaching,
which
we
definitely
have
talked
about
at
the
full
committee
level
through
that
presentation
earlier
in
the
year
and
then
practice
the
whole
point
of
the
dashboard
is
to
be
able
to
better
understand
the
practice.
B
Is
there
I
guess
I'll
open
the
floor
up
to
either
one
of
the
commissioners
talk
about,
given
the
the
conversation
that
we
just
heard
from
chris,
but
the
dashboard
is
that
it's
close
to
being
developed-
it's
obviously
not
here
yet,
but
even
when
it
is
presented,
it's
probably
not
going
to
be.
You
know
this
year's
information.
B
What
are
your
thoughts?
How
do
we
continue
to
move
this
forward
in
a
way
that
is
productive
and
I
will
yield
the
floor
to
either
of
you
to?
You
know,
share
ideas
about
that.
F
Yeah,
I
don't
know,
I
feel,
like
the
lawsuit
has
created
a
big
roadblock
for
that
I'm
having
a
hard
time.
Thinking
of
ways
to
it
almost
just
seems
like
a
non-starter
unless
I've
missed
something,
because
if
they
can't,
if
we
can't
disclose
to
the
public
that
data
between
I,
it
must
be
such
and
such
a
date
that
that's
kind
of
it
right
and
that's.
F
Because
data
from
say,
I
don't
know
what
the
cut-off
period
but
data
from
five
years
ago,
10
years
ago,
15
years
ago,
was
a
lot
less
interesting
to
me
than
something
contemporary
and
changes
in
leadership
and
practices.
B
Well,
I
think
it's
important
to
know
what
that
cutoff
date
is
right.
So
it's
definitely
a
big
question
that
we'll
have
for
for
andrew
when
he
is
available
to
speak
with
us
on
that
and
again,
I
can
only
see
the
reason
why
andrew
would
not
be
here
is
because
he's
having
that
meeting
right
now
on
our
behalf
to
make
sure
that
we
are
trying
to
get
that
data.
It's
been
very
clear,
he's
expressed
as
much
to
us
in
previous
meetings,
so.
B
What
that
cut-off
date
is,
and
ideally
the
sooner
the
better
obviously,
but
I
still
think
that
there
is
data
we'll
be
able
to
extrapolate.
I
know
if
it's
fresher
than
2017.
That's
only
a
benefit
right.
F
We'll
see
what
comes
from
it,
you
know,
because
it
could
be
interesting.
Let's
say
right:
if
2017
is
the
cut
off
okay,
maybe
we
can
get
some
data
leading
up
to
2017
and
then,
when
that
lawsuit
is
resolved
eventually,
that
data
will
be
available
available
for
public
consumption,
then
we
can
take
it
up
again
and
get
something
more
more
recent.
So
it's
not
like
a
lost
cause
or
anything.
B
And
maybe
it's
worthwhile,
I
know
we
just
hit
over
the
hour
mark
or
we're
getting
close
to
it,
but
it
might
be
worthwhile
to
just
share
that
dashboard
again.
So
that
way,
we
can
take
a
bit
of
unstructured
time
to
look
at
the
dashboard
and
see
what's
beneficial.
What's
not
beneficial.
What
can
we?
B
What
would
we
like
to
see
in
it,
and
I
know
again,
the
the
updated
version
is
not
there
right
now,
but
then
it'll
be
fresh
in
our
heads
based
off
of
the
the
dashboard
update
that
we
will
get
hopefully
next
time
around
chris.
Do
you
have
a
quick
link
to
the
the
current
dashboard
of
where,
where
that's
available,
I
know
it's
somewhere
in
my
bookmarks,
but.
B
Okay,
I'm
gonna
quickly
try
to
find
that,
because
I
know
that's
pretty
much.
What
we're
down
to
right
now
is
you
know,
taking
a
look
at
the
the
current
dashboard.
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
those
of
you
who
do
not
have
access
to
the
chat
I'll,
just
quickly
read
off.
B
So
for
those
of
you
who
don't
have
access
to
that
chat,
this
is
the
office
of
police
conduct,
review
data
dashboard.
It
is
within
the
data
source
section
of
the
minneapolis.
B
B
And
as
we
can
see
and
we've
talked
about
this
in
previous
meetings,
there
is-
and
I
think
you
guys
are
seeing
the
same
thing-
I'm
saying,
there's
a
pie
chart
like
a
blue
and
orange
pie,
chart
off
on
the
right
and
then
there's
a
a
line
graph
of
total
cases
over
time
that
were
sent
to
coaching.
Are
you
guys,
seeing
the
same
thing
that
I
am.
B
Okay
cool,
as
far
as.
B
Use
of
data,
obviously,
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
a
little
bit
more
interaction
between
you
know.
The
specific
data
sources,
and
you
know
the
types
of
complaints
against
officers
you
know
being
able
to
say
you
know.
Is
this
a
a
vehicle
violation
that
ended
up
in
coaching?
B
Is
it
you
know
misuse
of
improper
language
that
goes
to
coaching,
that
sort
of
thing
and
being
able
to
see
that
displayed
in
either
some
sort
of
pie
chart
form,
or
you
know
some
other
visual
display,
I
think,
would
be
kind
of
helpful
to
get
a
sense
of
the
share
of
complaints
against
officers
that
end
up
going
to
coaching
as
well
as
I
think,
we've
talked
about
this
a
lot,
the
discipline
matrix
and
the
categorization
of
the
complaint
against
the
officer
and
where
that
would
lay
on
the
discipline
matrix
and
coaching
by
definition,
is
within
a
particular
area
of
the
discipline
matrix
so
see.
B
How
often
those
compare
I
think
is
those
are
probably
the
two
things
that
I
would
see
and
would
help
provide
a
little
bit
more
richness
of
the
data
set
here.
B
What
about
either
of
you
two
with
about
you
know
five
minutes
left
or
there.
There
are
other
areas
in
which
you
think
this
visual
could
be
improved
upon.
B
Oh
jordan,
I
think
you're,
muted,
sorry,
jordan,
crockett,
you're,
muted,
all.
D
B
To
my
understanding,
this
is
looking
at
complaints
coming
in
and
if
they
have
been
received
by
opcr,
then
within
the
status
of
the
officer
was
coached
or
not,
and
that
you
know
not
could
mean
there
is
some
other
discipline
that
is
happening,
and
it
could
mean
that
there
was
no
merit
and
therefore
did
not
even
need
coaching.
B
This
is
just
looking
at.
Is
there?
Was
there
coaching?
That
was
a
decision
that
was
rendered
through
this
complaint
process
and
the
officer
was
coached
chris.
Am
I
correct
in
that
interpretation
of
this
dashboard.
E
I
don't
know
for
sure,
so
I'm
not
sure
I
should
speak
to
that,
but
I
yeah
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
the
data
set
is
for
the
officer,
not
coached
section.
B
Yeah,
it
would
be
good
to
see.
I
think
another
point
in
that
is,
you
know
not
coached
is
vague,
and
so
you
know,
even
if
you
know,
given
the
terminology,
that
it
is
discipline,
you
know
like
how,
if,
if
discipline
is
within
that
pie,
chart
of
officer
not
coached,
I
would
love
to
see
a
share
that
is
disciplined.
You
know,
yeah.
E
And
I
I
think
that
is
something
that
should
be
better
reflected
in
any
new
dashboards
going
forwards
is
to
better
explain
that
you
know
this
is
one
where
a
problem
was
identified
and
it
was
cursed
or
it
wasn't
coached
or
you
know
this
th
this
pie
chart
here
doesn't
really
go
into
any
details.
As
you
say,.
B
And
unless
we
don't
have
any
other
recommendations
or
considerations
based
off
of
the
visuals
that
we
have
right
now,
I
think
the
only
thing
we
can
do
now
that
we're
one
minute
after
the
hour
is
table
this
discussion
for
next
time.
Now
that
we've
had
the
chance
to
look
at
the
the
current
visual
we'll
be
able
to
freshly,
compare
it
to
the
new
one
once
we're
looking
at
it
next
time.
This
audit
subcommittee
meets.
B
Any
final
points
on
coaching
before
we
close
this
agenda
item.