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From YouTube: June 8, 2021 Heritage Preservation Commission
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B
Good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
this
live
broadcast
of
our
virtual
meeting
of
the
june
8
2021
regular
meeting
of
the
minneapolis
heritage
preservation
commission.
This
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
other
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
.021,
due
to
declared
local
health
pandemic
for
the
record.
My
name
is
madeleine
sundberg
and
I
serve
as
chair
of
the
minneapolis
heritage
preservation.
Commission.
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C
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B
Our
first
order
of
business
is
to
adopt
the
agenda
for
this
meeting,
we'll
work
from
the
agendas
that
are
available
online
I'll,
go
through
the
agenda
and
sort
out
what
items
will
be
continuing
to
a
future
meeting.
What
items
will
be
discussed
and
what
items
will
be
put
on
the
consent
agenda
to
be
approved,
as
recommended
by
staff
without
further
discussion.
B
B
B
E
D
B
D
C
B
Xeronas,
thank
you.
The
minutes
are
approved
before
I
open
the
hearing
to
public
comments.
Let
me
summarize
the
process
for
conducting
the
public
hearing
in
this
virtual
format.
We
will
first
go
through
the
items
in
order.
B
B
After
that
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
we
own
by
public
comment.
I
will
take
speakers
in
the
order
that
they
pre-registered.
If
there
are
any
speakers,
will
be
limited
to
two
minutes
after
your
name
is
called.
B
B
F
F
The
subject
property
is
a
contributing
resource
in
the
washburn,
fair
oaks.
Historic
district
available
records
indicate
that
the
building
was
likely
completed
around
1881
before
permits,
and
the
1882-1883
minneapolis
city
directory
is
currently
the
first
known
instance
of
the
property
appearing
in
public
record.
F
F
F
F
Additionally,
the
overall
integrity
of
the
washburn
fairways
historic
district
is
not
changed
by
the
proposed
project.
Next
slide.
Please
staff
found
that
the
alteration
is
consistent
with
the
applicable
design
guidelines
adopted
by
the
commission
with
conditions.
The
washburn,
ferrell's
historic
district
design
guidelines
specify
the
following
for
dimensions
and
scale.
The
scale
of
the
proposed
porch
alterations
is
consistent
with
the
character
and
the
pattern
of
the
neighborhood.
F
An
open,
porch
had
existed
at
this
entry
location
during
the
district's
period
of
significance,
and
the
proposed
porsche
location
will
be
of
contemporary
and
compatible
design
featuring
massive
patterns
that
are
consistent
with
portraits
that
are
seen
in
the
neighborhood
for
materials.
The
project
meets
the
guidelines
as
conditioned
wood.
Composite
windows,
like
the
proposed
anderson
fibrex
product,
can
generally
be
considered
by
staff
to
be
suitable
replacements
for
wood
sash,
given
their
ability
to
retain
similar
appearance
and
closely
match
the
profile
inoperability
of
historic
window
types.
F
What
is
proposed
for
the
porsche
constructions,
which
is
a
compatible
new
material
for
the
guidelines?
The
two
porches
are
constructed
mostly
of
wood.
However,
the
north
porch
and
stairway
does
include
a
fabricated
wire
railing,
which
is
presumably
made
of
metal
and
staff
has
condition
that
this
be
changed.
F
The
front
elevation
porch
is
proposed
to
shelter
the
main
entropy
door
and
will
be
constructed
with
simplified
wood
posts.
Balusters
steps
and
a
frame
shed
roof
with
shingles
photo
evidence
again
confirms
that
the
property
previously
had
an
enclosed,
hip,
roof
hip,
hip
roof
sun
porch
at
the
main
entry
which
was
removed
in
the
previous
decade.
F
The
1912
sanborn
map
of
this
section
of
the
city
does
show
that
the
building
had
a
open,
one-story
porch
at
this
location.
During
that
time,
which
is
during
the
period
of
significance
for
the
district,
the
proposed
two-story,
stairway
and
porch
on
the
side.
Elevation
are
not
proposed
to
replace
a
historic
area
or
feature
of
the
dwelling,
but
they
will
be
in
with
the
character
of
the
district
and
will
be
situated
so
that
the
porch
is
accessed
via
steps
descending
to
the
rear,
which
is
the
west
of
the
parcel,
and
it's
less
noticeable
from
the
public.
F
Right-Of-Way
next
slide,
please,
as
conditions
staff
found
that
the
alteration
is
consistent
with
the
applicable
recommendations
contained
in
the
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
for
the
treatment
of
historic
properties.
F
The
property
was
built
circa
1881
as
a
dwelling
with
single
family
design
origins,
but
quickly,
transitioned
to
a
multi-family
dwelling
during
the
period
of
significance
for
the
district,
and
it
retains
this
use,
and
these
changes
are
proposed
in
part
to
the
upper
level
to
aid
the
building's
use.
As
a
dwelling,
and
this
satisfies
standard
one,
the
project
also
meets
standard
two,
since
the
windows
are
shown
to
be
deteriorated
to
a
point
that
replacements
can
be
considered.
F
The
new
sash
inserts
are
proposed
for
replacements
where
necessary
and
will
be
replaced
with
a
design
that
matches
the
existing
and
all
visual
and
operable
qualities
to
meet
standard.
Six.
The
addition
of
the
porches
to
the
front
side
are
also
appropriate
as
new
construction
and
as
conditioned
they
satisfy
standard.
F
Two,
the
proposed
cable
barrier
balustered
system
on
the
north
elevation
port,
shall
instead
be
wood,
picket,
balusters
or
other
closely,
similar
suitable
material
and
also
with
standard
conditions
of
approval
with
that.
So
I'm
available
as
staff
for
any
questions.
But
I
do
understand
that
the
applicants
are
on
the
line
to
answer
questions
as
well,
but
I
don't
believe
they
plan
to
make
a
presentation.
B
Thank
you.
I
did
want
to
confirm
something.
Maybe
I
just
missed
this,
so
the
the
four
windows
you're
proposing
remain
the
primary
facade
windows.
Can
you
confirm
if
that's
windows,
10
11
and
12,
in
the
photos
that
we
were
given?
I
was
trying
to
make
sure
I
like
lined
up
the
right
photos
with
the
right
windows.
F
Definitely
yeah.
Let
me
check
one
second
here.
I
think
if
you
would
go
back,
I
believe
there's
shown
on
one
slide
here
yep,
so
it
does
look
like
the
applicant
labeled,
one
of
the
the
front
elevation
windows
as
a
single
window,
so
that
would
be
it
looks
like
11
there.
So
those
three
numbers
so
12
11
and
it
looks
like
eight.
I
believe
those
are
street
facing
they
face
first
avenue
south
and
those
are
the
four
that
staff
has
conditioned
to
be
repaired.
G
Thanks
for
confirming
those
numbers,
I
was
trying
to
figure
that
out
as
well
the
pdf
the
image
was
kind
of
over
the
number.
So
I
was
trying
to
go
by
elimination
as
to
what
they
were.
So
it
looks
to
me
like
eight
and
11,
and
I
think
12
as
well
I'll
have
that
frosted
chemical
treatment
is
your
intention
for
as
part
of
the
repair
for
that
to
be
returned
to
a
clear
glass
state.
F
If
possible,
I
believe
if
they
can
be
retained
as
such,
it's
it's
not
something
that
we
would
require,
but
retaining
definitely
the
sash.
But
that's
a
that's
a
good
question.
G
G
Is
it
consolidating
the
wood
and,
and
did
you
look
at
these
three
windows-
the
four
windows
in
comparison
to
the
others,
I'm
concerned,
because
you've
you've
stated
that
it
looks
like
things
can't
may
have
deteriorated
enough
to
allow
for
replacement
and
I'm
just
not
sure
how
these
front
windows
compare
to
the
others
are
are
all
of
the
other
windows,
the
ones
that
have
deteriorated
enough
or
are
you
seeing
deterioration
enough
on
these
as
well.
F
Yeah
thanks,
commissioner
howard,
that
was
steph's
recommendation
to
retain
windows
where
we
thought
possible.
In
this
case,
we
thought
the
sash
could
be
repaired
on
the
front
elevation,
which
is
street
facing
right
right.
That's
a
recommendation
that
we
feel
comfortable
making,
whereas
the
other
ones
there
was
deterioration,
shown
to
a
point
since
they're
on
non-primary
elevations,
a
recommendation
is
is
more
clear
where
we
can
recommend
approval
for
replacing
those
since
they're,
less
noticeable,
they're
less
character
defining
for
the
building.
F
If
you
know
they're
not
on
a
primary
elevation,
so
that
was
steph's
recommendation.
If
you.
H
G
G
Understand
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
where
your
perspective
was
when
you
mentioned
that
you
felt
that
everything
was
deter,
that
the
windows
were
deteriorated
enough.
It
sounds
to
me
as
though
you
think
the
ones
on
the
the
non-primary
elevations
are
deteriorated
sufficiently
for
to
allow
for
replacement
and
maybe
not
so
much
the
ones
on
the
front.
I
think
that's
what
I'm
understanding
correctly.
F
Correct,
yes,
okay
and
definitely
the
fact
that
they
are
non-primary
windows
on
non-street
facing
elevations,
where
we
felt
comfortable
making
that
recommendation.
I
I
F
Actually
I'll
go
to
your
second
one.
First,
I
don't
believe
there
are
other
conditions
placed
on
that.
You
know
what
is
in
front
of
you
is
the
final
design
for
that
product
or
for
that
project.
F
So,
as
far
as
you
know,
what
we're
looking
at
what
was
included
in
your
packet
was
what
was
approved,
and
I
think
you
could
see
that
as
well.
There
were
actually
the
approval
stamps
on
those.
It's
just
a
matter
of
that
those
the
approval
time
expired
for
those
to
be
able
to
complete
it
and
for
all
permits
to
be
applied.
For,
and
I
apologize
that
your
first
question
now,
I
I
just
skipped
over
it.
F
I
Was
there
originally
a
side
porch
in
that
location?
It
was.
It
was
a
little
unclear
to
me
if
there
was
originally
a
side
porch
there
and
if
the
size
proportion
in
general
configuration
of
this
proposed
porch
is
similar
to
the
original
okay.
F
Thank
you.
That's
thanks
for
the
clarification
staff
was
not
able
to
confirm
that.
Historically,
there
had
been
a
side
porch
there
within
maps
and
permit
records.
It
doesn't
appear
to
be
the
case.
It
seems
like
it
was
added
in
the
60s
based
on
permits
evidence.
I
know
the
applicant
did
mention
that
or
in
the
application
kind
of
suggests,
that
that
might
have
been
a
historic
entry,
but
staff
wasn't
able
to
confirm
that.
F
B
Don't
see
any
at
this
time,
I
will
now
open
the
public
hearing
for
this
item.
I
believe
the
applicant
is
here
and
would
like
to
speak.
If
you
could
press
star
six
on
your
phone,
wait
to
hear
the
pre-recorded
message
and
then
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
That
would
be
great.
K
Hi,
this
is
colin
gatling,
2512,
first
avenue
south.
B
Did
you
have
comments,
or
did
you
just
want
to
be
here
to
answer
any
questions?
Yeah,
I'm
just.
H
H
There
is
no
way
to
get
the
the
tinted
glass
back
to
its
original
clear
unless
they
are
replaced
the
and
you
can
see
in
the
photos.
Those
are
very,
very
rotted
and
beyond
repair
in
the
packet
there
are
photographs,
labeled
number
eight
number
they're
all
numbered
11
and
12
they're
numeric
there.
There
are
no
windows
on
the
second
floor
that
are
any
less
deteriorated
than
you
know,
they're
all
at
the
same
state
of
deterioration,
they're
they're
beyond
repair.
H
So
that's
why
we're
suggesting
replacing
all
the
windows
and
to
get
the
the
tinted
glass
back
to
its
original,
clear.
B
I
don't
see
any
thank
you
for
coming
to
be
available
for
questions.
I
appreciate
it
so
with
that
I'll
check
to
see
if
there
is
anyone
else
in
the
queue
who
wish
to
speak
on
this
application,
I
don't
have
anybody
else
pre-registered,
but
if
there's
anyone
else,
if
you
could
press
star
six-
and
let
me
know
that
you
are.
B
B
It
seems
like
these
front-facing
windows
are
kind
of
a
topic
of
internal
discussion.
Barbara,
it
sounds
like
you
maybe
have
some
questions
about
it,
as,
as
did
I
in
whether
or
not
retaining
these
windows
is
necessarily
the
best
choice.
B
I
think
if,
if
they
were
to
be
repaired,
it
would
probably
mean
replacement
of
the
glazing
within
the
sashes,
and
I
guess
from
the
photographs
I
don't
know,
I'm
waffling
back
and
forth
on
what
I
I
appreciate
staff's
desire
to
keep
the
windows
on
the
front
facade,
but
I'm
wondering
if
they
passed
their
lifespan.
G
Well
like
when
it
comes
to
windows,
I
usually
leave
it
to
the
architects,
the
full-blown
architects
on
the
board,
to
give
me
their
their
opinions
on
on
what
can
actually
be
saved.
I've
seen
many
windows
in
very
rough
shape
saved,
but
these
these
are
in
very
rough
shape,
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
I
I
I'm
very
much
torn
on
them
in
part
because
of
the.
G
I
know
that
the
chemical
frosting
process
can't
be
re
reversed
and
and
a
few
of
the
sashes
look
like
they
have
disintegrated
quite
a
bit,
but
you
know:
there's
always:
wood
consolidates
and
fillers,
and
things
like
that
that
can
be
used.
G
I'm
also
it's
very
common
for
us
to
to
look
at
those
front-facing
windows,
the
public,
facade
and
and
try
to
preserve
them,
but
then
I
also
wonder
why
the
ones
on
the
sides
of
of
that
top
section
aren't
included
in
that
because
they're
very
much
public
in
in
the
public
realm,
and
I
don't
know
which
numbers
those
are
I'd
have
to
go
back.
I'm
I
can't
tell
from
the
photos
in
some
cases
you
can
take.
You
know
if
you
have
a
sash,
that's
in
good
shape
on
another
portion
of
the
building.
G
You
could
pull
it
to
the
front
and
reuse
it.
I
don't
know
enough
from
what
we
have
in
front
of
us
if
that's
a
possibility
for
repair,
so
yeah,
I'm
kind
of
going
back
and
forth
on
these
madeleine.
I
guess
I
would
look
to
to
you
guys
who
are
dealing
with
this
on
a
regular
basis.
As
to
you
know
how
far
can
windows
go
before
they
truly
are
deteriorated
beyond
repair.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Howard
yeah,
I
think
that's
sort
of
the
debate
I'm
having.
B
I
think
it
really
depends
on
what
we
mean
by
repair,
because
if
I
look
at
windows
like
this,
I
would
be
thinking
a
full
rehabilitation
and
that
would
probably
be
selective
replacement
of
parts
of
the
wood
members
and
new
glass
and
it
looks
like
new
weight
systems
are
needed
and
new
hardware
on
some
of
them,
at
which
point
I
guess
in
my
mind,
I'm
wondering
how
much
historic
material
would
actually
be
maintained
in
a
rehabilitation
of
these
windows
and
understanding
the
applicant's
desire
to
just
replace.
B
I
I
think
we
would
lose
a
lot
of
our
historic
material
there,
because
I
think
we
would
have
that
there
would
have
to
be
some
wood
replacement
there.
Personally,
I
I
think
that
the
condition
of
the
windows
looks
to
be
bad
enough,
that
I
would
support
the
argument
for
replacing
all
of
the
windows.
On
the
second
floor,
as
the
applicant
proposed,
I
don't
see
a
substantial
difference
between
the
condition
of
the
windows
on
the
front
of
the
house
versus
the
other
facades,
and
I
think
the
goal
of
returning
the
glass
to
a
clear
glass
again.
I
Instead
of
the
frosted
might
outweigh
my
desire
to
keep
the
original
sash
and
glass,
and
so
then
I
would.
I
would
lean
towards
the
opinion
that
the
condition
of
them
is
enough
to
justify
the
replacement
and
they've
proposed
a
nice
window
material
to
replace
with
they're
replacing
in
the
same
profile
and
in
the
same
openings.
I,
I
think
all
of
those
things
meet
our
guidelines
very
clearly
and
very
directly.
I
I
Attempt
to
follow
in
the
character
of
the
neighborhood-
and
I
think
replacing
these
windows
is-
is
completely
justifiable.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
stan
bolt,
I'm
wondering
if
there
are
any
commissioners
who
feel
strongly
about
saving
these
for
front-facing
windows
versus
the
replacement,
because
I'm
looking
for
an
argument
for
why
we
think
these
windows
should
be
saved
beyond
just
keeping
historic
materials.
Do
we
really
think
that
these
are
more
vital
than
the
other
windows
on
the
second
floor
because
yeah,
I
guess
I'm
just
feeling
like
they,
they
look
a
little
worse
for
wear
and
I'm
all
for
keeping
historic
materials
normally.
B
So
I
feel
like
this
is
funny,
because
I'm
I'm
going
like
the
direction
I
wouldn't
normally
go
on.
One
of
these,
but
yeah
the
the
needing
to
replace
the
glass
is
kind
of.
I
guess
what
does
it
for
me,
knowing
that
they'd
have
to
it
looks
like
the
bottom
sash
of
two
of
the
windows
and
the
whole
of
window.
B
I
think
it's,
oh
maybe
it's
the
boss
ash,
but
that
that's
just
too
much
in
my
mind,
commissioner,
bjorn
berg.
A
I'm
not
gonna
give
a
alternate
perspective
here,
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
agree
with.
What's
already
been
said,
I
think
that
looking
at
the
sort
of
condition
of
those
four
windows
and
then
trying
to
think
about
what
would
need
to
get
replaced
or
repaired
through
that
process,
I
just
don't
feel
like
there
would
be
enough
material
left
over
after
that
to
really
justify
preserving
those
pieces.
So
I'm
I'm
fine
with
the
replacement
of
those.
D
Yeah,
I
also
wanted
to
echo
that
I
don't
have
a
strong
opinion
against
or
what
you
were
just
trying
to
procure,
but
I
also
wanna
I'm.
I
think
I
heard
correctly
that
there
were
no
one
of
the
word
I'm
looking
for.
There
are
no
conditions
attached
to
the
the
application
in
2015,
so
I
can
only
imagine
in
the
past
six
years
what
other
further
damage
has
gone
to
the
windows
if
they
were
going
to
be
replaced
that
time,
so
I
would
be
in
support
of
striking
that
condition.
B
F
Cheers
that's
correct.
The
windows
are
new
to
this
application.
The
porches
were
part
of
the
previous
application,
so
those
are
what's
in
front
of
the
hpc
again.
B
It's
a
little
confusing
when
parts
of
projects
overlap
and
stuff.
So
no
and
I
I
think
I
don't
have
any
problem
with
the
porches
and
it
doesn't
sound
like
there's
a
huge
issue
with
this
alternative
balustrade
system.
B
So
I
guess
I'm
wondering
if
somebody
would
like
to
make
a
motion
on
this
item
or
if
there's
further
discussion.
Commissioner
sandbolt.
I
I
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
replace
all
second
story
windows
and
install
two
porches
on
the
property,
with
all
of
the
conditions
listed
in
the
agenda
except
striking
condition.
Number
one.
The
four
historic
primary
elevation
windows
facing
first
avenue
south
shall
be
retained
and
repaired
that
can
be
struck,
keep
condition
two
through
four.
B
I
wanna
make
sure:
did
the
clerk
get
that
okay?
Did
that
make
sense?
D
E
C
H
B
F
F
The
subject
property
is
a
non-contributing
resource
in
the
warehouse,
historic
district
and
saint
anthony
falls
historic
district.
The
building
was
completed
in
1949
as
a
concrete
block
warehouse
for
the
lh
williams
hardware
company
and
therefore
does
not
fall
within
the
period
of
significance
for
the
districts
where
it
is
located.
F
F
Part
of
the
work
on
the
primary
elevation
has
already
been
completed
without
permit
approval
or
applicable
reviews
by
city
building
code,
zoning
or
other
departments.
The
zoning
inspector
has
issued
orders
to
correct
for
the
work
that
has
already
been
completed
and
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
is
required
for
preservation
review.
F
F
F
F
F
F
Additionally,
the
overall
integrity
of
the
warehouse,
historic
district
is
not
changed
by
the
proposed
project.
However,
the
introduction
of
calval
on
a
highly
visible
primary
elevation
is
not
appropriate
for
glazing
replacement
material
in
the
district.
This
is
even
true
for
a
non-contributing
building
next
slide.
Please
staff
found
that
the
alteration
is
not
consistent
with
the
applicable
design
guidelines
adopted
by
the
commission
under
the
minneapolis
warehouse,
historic
district
design,
guidelines,
changes
to
non-contributing
buildings
are
evaluated
under
the
guidelines
for
new
buildings
and
infill.
F
F
As
stated
in
the
fenestration
guidelines
for
building
envelope,
the
proposed
replacement
materials
are
not
classified
as
glazing
as
conditioned
by
staff.
The
project
could
meet
the
guidelines
by
removing
the
call
wall
panels
and
installing
a
window
design
consisting
of
appropriate
materials,
glazing
profile
and
operability
to
comply
with
the
warehouse,
historic
district
design
guidelines.
F
Next
slide,
please,
the
project
does
not
meet
the
specific
requirements
and
advisories
for
windows.
In
the
guidelines,
the
applicant
is
not
proposing
replacement
windows
at
the
location.
The
proposed
call
wall
material
is
not
compatible
as
fenestration
infill.
An
in-kind
replacement
of
glazing
that
can
be
semi-translucent
is
appropriate
for
the
building,
since
original
windows
are
of
this
style.
F
F
Uncharacteristic
flashing
was
also
installed
over
the
sill
at
already
installed
locations
on
the
primary
elevation
to
meet
the
guidelines.
Staff
has
conditioned
that
the
project
removed
the
call
wall
panels
and
install
window
designs,
consisting
of
appropriate
materials,
glazing
profile
and
operability
to
comply
with
the
warehouse,
historic
district
design
guidelines
next
slide.
Please
staff
also
finds
that
the
alteration
is
not
consistent
with
the
applicable
recommendations
contained
in
the
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
for
the
treatment
of
historic
properties.
F
The
property
was
completed
in
1949
as
a
warehouse
and
storage
building,
while
the
current
institutional
museum
use
is
compatible
for
the
building
which
meets
standard
one.
The
applicant
states
that
the
proposed
replacements
are
needed
to
provide
protection
to
the
museum
collections
but
has
not
submitted
evidence
that
any
other
interior
mitigation
efforts
or
glazing
replacement
options
were
considered
as
possibilities
in
the
project.
F
The
building
will
be
noticeably
altered
at
the
primary
elevation
and
the
project
does
not
meet
standard.
Two.
As
the
proposed
call
wall,
product
changes,
the
character
of
the
building
and,
to
a
degree,
the
historic
district
and
the
product
is
now
compatible
for
replacement
of
primary
elevation
glazing
within
this
district.
The
project
also
does
not
need
standard.
Six,
since
deteriorated
and
or
damaged
features
are
not
proposed
for
repair.
F
F
Three
the
previously
removed
steel
windows
on
the
western
northwest
elevation
shall
be
replaced
with
a
window
design
consisting
of
appropriate
material
materials,
glazing
profile
and
operability
to
comply
with
the
warehouse,
historic
district
design
guidelines,
as
well
as
standard
conditions
of
approval
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
with
that
I'm
available
as
staff
for
any
questions.
But
I
do
understand
that
the
applicant
is
here
to
speak
as
well
thanks.
E
Nystrom
I
took
a
quick
question
when
I
was
reading
through
the
documents
over
the
weekend.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
it's
only
about
the
windows
we're
discussing
so
going
through
some
of
their
later
documents,
they're
also
talking
about
doors
and
replacing
some
of
the
doors.
If
I
remember
correctly,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
it's
only
the
windows
we're
discussing
for
this
property.
F
Thanks,
commissioner,
nice
job,
that's
correct,
the
applicant
did
not
submit
additional
materials
for
any
other
changes
as
part
of
this
application.
I
they
have.
Let
staff
know
that
they,
they
do
have
other
projects
planned
for
the
property,
but
it
was
not
submitted
as
part
of
this
application
and
again,
this
application
is
required
per
orders
to
correct
by
the
zone
inspector
for
these
exterior
changes
that
have
been
made.
So
at
least
with
this
application,
there
are
no
other
changes
being
proposed.
Okay,
thanks.
B
I
don't
see
any
at
this
time.
Thanks
rob.
I
will
now
open
the
public
hearing
for
this
item.
I
believe
the
applicant
is
here
to
speak.
If
you
could
press
star
6
on
your
phone
and
wait
to
hear
the
recorded
message
to
activate
your
microphone,
so
we
can
hear
you
and
then
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
It
looks
like
I
have
craig
hall
listed
as
the
applicant.
L
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Well,
I'm
I'm
I'm
sorry
to
find
myself
before
you
in
this
situation.
I
just
would
like
to
give
you
a
little
background
of
how
I
came
to
be
here.
I
was
called
by
the
museum
because
they
were
concerned
about
problems.
They
were
having
with
their
windows
and
problems
they
had
with
vandalism
and
concerns
they
had.
You
know
with.
E
L
If
not
priceless
artifacts,
certainly
irreplaceable
items
inside
the
museum,
I
was
not
told
that
this
was
a
historic
building
and
I
had
talked
about
not
having
included
any
permits
in
my
proposal,
but
I
was
asked
to
proceed
with
the
window
replacement
and
I
had
assumed
incorrectly
that
the
museum
was
undergoing
other
renovations
and
was
in
the
process
of
of
seeking
permits
for
all
of
this
later
review,
understand
that
that
was
not
the
case.
The
museum.
D
L
E
L
On
a
product
that
I
can
tell
from
the
response
is,
is
not
what
people
were
anticipating
there
and
I'm
I'm
greatly.
Sorry,
you
know
apologetic
to
find
myself
in
this
situation.
It
was
handed
off
to
a
project
manager.
We
proceeded
to
do
probably
40
percent
of
the
work.
L
The
museum
came
to
contact
the
city
about
other
questions
they
had
and
then
that's
when
they
were
notified
that
this
was
in
violation.
At
no
time
had
I
proposed
that
I
had
a
permit
or
anything
like
that.
Again,
it
was
the
understanding.
L
That
that
the
museum
was
was
undergoing
further
renovations
and
had
permitted
this
so.
L
The
only
thing
I
can
offer
I
know
we
looked
at
windows.
We
looked
at
replacing
these
windows
now
the.
I
L
Of
the
what
you're
calling
the
north
elevation
has
had
changes
inside
the
windows
which
the
the
building
had
been
furred
out,
the
interior
had
been
furred
out,
so
many
of
the
windows
were
kind
of
blocking
the
openings.
They
were
getting
a
lot
of
condensation
in
those
areas.
L
They
were
concerned
about
damage
they
were
getting
to
she-rock
and
even
to
some
of
the
artifacts
in
the
museum.
They'd
had
a
lot
of
cracking,
there's
a
lot
of
broken
lights
and
things
like
that
and
and
that's
how
this
product
was
ultimately
chosen,
the
idea
that
it
could
not
be
vandalized,
someone
could
not
smash
and
grab.
If
you
will,
these
artifacts
inside
an
attempt
was
certainly
made
to
mimic
what
was
there
and
also
mimic
the
changes
that
were
made
above
the
garage
door,
but
I
understand
that
it's
not
anywhere
close
to
what's
being
expected.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions
for
the.
B
Applicant,
I
don't
see
any
at
this
time.
The
second
person
I
have
listed
here
is
jeff
weeks.
If
you
could
press
star
six
and
give
us
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
B
J
All
right
yeah,
this
is
jeff
weeks
and
I'm
at
126,
north
first
street.
J
I
I
just
can't
I
represent
the
board
of
trustees
for
this,
for
the
nonprofit
and
I
just
you
know,
wanted
to
dial
in
to
just
kind
of
hear
what
was
going
on
and
just
participate
in
that
fashion.
I
don't
have
much
to
add:
I'm
not
a
window
expert.
B
Thank
you.
We
appreciate
you
coming,
I
guess
I'll
just
check
with
the
commissioners.
Are
there
any
questions
on
the
non-profit
end
of
things
about
this.
B
B
Don't
see
any
oh
so
with
that,
I
would
like
to
check
to
make
sure
if
there
are
any
other
speakers
who
may
be
in
the
queue
who
did
not
pre-register.
If
you
could
press
star
six,
and
let
me
know
that
you
are.
B
B
B
I
know
this
is
a
little
bit
of
a
tricky
one.
Just
in
that
we
we
don't
see
a
lot
of
projects
where,
with
permitting
issues,
it's
not
it's,
not
our
typical.
So
I
get.
This
is
a
little
out
of
out
of
the
ordinary
for
us,
commissioner.
Sandbolt.
I
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
say
you
know
it's
unfortunate
to
hear
when
owner
or
contractor,
aren't
aware
that
there
are
regulations
on
our
historic
districts,
and
I
think
it's
one
of
the
things
that
we
as
a
commission
struggle
with,
is
to
help
how
to
keep
people
that
are
owners
in
these
areas.
Informed,
obviously,
buildings,
chain
plans
and
realtors
are
not
necessarily
assigned
with
you
know,
informing
people
and
aren't
always
aware
as
well.
I
So
it's
pretty
cut
and
dried
on
that.
On
that
front,
I
understand
the
goals
of
the
cow
wall
system
and
you
know
would
recommend
that
that
thermally,
laminated
glass
can
accomplish
some
of
the
same
goals.
So
I
I
feel
like
this
is
a
pretty
cut
and
dried
issue.
Unfortunately,
you
know
it's
unfortunate
that
we
cut
it
this
late,
but
the
guidelines
are
pretty
clear
that
it
needs
to
be
glass
and
not
the
cow
wall
material.
So
those
are
my
opinions
happy
to
hear
other
commissioners.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
sandbolt.
I
agree.
This
is
just
like
an
unfortunate
situation
of
miscommunications,
but
things
happen
and
that
the
cow
wall
panels
yeah
seem
to
pretty
clearly
not
meet
the
guidelines.
I
understand
the
concerns
with
vandalism.
B
I
would
suggest
potentially,
if
you
know,
especially
with
the
retaining
and
repairing
the
historic
windows,
there
are
clear
films
that
can
be
applied
to
historic
windows
that
they
may
not
reach
quite
the
same
level
as
a
modern
anti-vandalism
situation,
but
they
they
can
make
it
so
you
can
wash
graffiti
off
the
windows
really
easily
and
they're
also
ones
that
help
against
breakage.
B
So
there
are
products
you
can
apply
to
existing
windows
that
help
with
situations
like
this,
which
might
be
a
direction
of
interest
for
the
windows
that
would
be
retained
as
like
an
unofficial
suggestion
there,
and
I'm
wondering
if
any
other
commissioners
have
thoughts
on
this
because
yeah.
It
strikes
me
as
like
an
unfortunate
situation,
but
the
guidelines
seem
pretty
clear
to
me,
commissioner.
Howard.
G
Yeah,
I
agree
with
what
both
of
you
have
already
said
and,
and
I
it
is
an
unfortunate
situation.
It
looks
like
a
great
non-profit
with
a
really
interesting
collection,
something
for
me
to
make
a
note
of
to
to
come,
see
someday
when
everything
is
is
done
down
there.
The
the
staff
comments,
the
or
conditions
that
have
been
drafted
are
spot
on
with
our
guidelines
and,
unlike
the
the
past,
the
previous
application.
G
These
windows
look
like
they're
in
fairly
good
shape
and
can
be
rehabbed,
and
so
I'm
fully
supportive
of
the
recommended
motion,
as
written
so
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
replace
the
windows
at
the
property
located
at
93,
2nd
avenue
north
the
warehouse
historic
district
subject
to
the
conditions
as
written
in
the
agenda
conditions,
one
through
five.
B
B
C
C
And
chair
sunburn,
I
spent
eight
games
and
zero.
B
Nays,
thank
you.
The
motion
passes
applicant
may
talk
to
staff
tomorrow
about
next
steps.
That
concludes
our
public
hearing
items.
I
believe
staff
did
you.
Were
there
some
announcements,
andrea.
B
A
I
guess
the
I
one
announcement.
I
have
the
historic
waiver
text
amendment
that
was
discussed
at
hpc
on
the
may.
4Th
meeting
did
go
to
the
business
inspections,
housing
and
zoning
committee
today,
and
that
was
passed.
A
So
that
goes
on
to
the
next
city
council
meeting
before
final
adoption,
and
then
I
can
give
an
update
when
that
becomes
final
granted.
I
know
the
the
application,
it
was
administrative,
so
none
of
these
will
be
coming
before
you
in
a
public
hearing
setting,
but
I
wanted
to
give
the
update
to
that.
I
also
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
your
participation
in
the
retreat
at
the
end
of
may.
I
thought
that
was
they're,
usually
always
very
productive,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
good
discussion.
A
I
don't
think
they're
still
up
in
the
air
about
when
commissioners
and
elected
officials
may
be
going
back
into
city,
kahal
and
council
chambers
for
in-person
meetings,
we're
sort
of
waiting
to
hear
on
what
happens
at
the
state
level
before
city
officials
decide
on
what's
going
to
happen
at
that
level,
but
as
soon
as
I
hear
something
I
will
pass
it
along.
So
commissioners
can
plan
accordingly.
G
I
think
it
was
something
like
that
if
you
go
to
their
website
under
planning,
you
can
find
a
draft
plan
and
a
means
for
providing
comments,
and
my
question
for
staff
was:
what
is
the
process
for
clgs
are?
Are
you
as
staff
reading
that
and
preparing
comments
for
them
or
have
they?
Given
you
any
guidance
on
how
clgs
should
be
providing
comments?
I
mean
I'll
be
providing
comments
on
my
own
personal.
G
A
Commissioner
howard,
yes,
we
did
receive
that
from
the
state
office
that
the
draft
plan
was
available
for
comment
and
it
was
sent
out
to
clgs
for
comments,
so
we
do
have
it.
I
only
recently
received
it.
I
have
not
had
a
chance
to
dive
in,
but,
yes,
it
is
in
our
possession
for
for
comment.
G
A
A
G
B
B
I
see
the
message
from
commissioner
nystrom:
yes,
we
can
see
your
chat,
but
I
don't
know
why
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
see
other
people's
chats.
Maybe
after
this
we
could
talk
to
the
tech
people
and
see
if,
if
somebody
has
some
answers,
yeah
completely
unrelated.
E
B
Okay,
well,
we'll
have
to
figure
that
one
out
yeah
for
the
so
I
know
to
call
on
you
any
other
announcements.