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B
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
item
4,
which
is
considering
a
potential
amendment
to
eliminate
the
part
board,
which
was
submitted
by
jeremy,
bergerson
and
you'll
notice
on
the
agenda
that
came
out
that
there
is
a
link
to
or
an
attachment
of
that
proposal
to
amend
the
part
board
with
that.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
this
matter
at
this.
B
E
As
you
know,
we
last
looked
at
the
possibility
of
eliminating
the
park
board.
I
believe
in
2009.
E
And
that
is
literally
an
eye
blink
in
time
in
charter
time,
so
we've
considered
this
matter
very
recently
and
concluded
at
that
time,
not
to
put
it
on
the
ballot
after
extensive
testimony
was
received
from
the
public
absent
a
significant
change
or
overwhelming
community
demand
for
something
like
this.
I
think
it's
it's
premature
to
consider
this
without
additional
community
input
and
until
we
have
more
of
an
idea
about
what
the
community
wants,
rather
than
than
one
or
two
proposers,
so
I
I
would
not
support
recommending
public
hearings
on
this
matter.
B
Commissioner
kozak,
please
go
ahead.
B
Our
options
are,
we
could
move
forward
with
some
kind
of
exploration
of
this
idea,
which
would
could
include
holding
a
public
hearing.
It
could
include
directing
the
committee
to
do
further
evaluation
of
this.
We
could
table
it
indefinitely.
We
could
table
it
to
a
later
time,
for
example,
as
we
did,
we
had
the
amendment
for
the
board
of
them.
B
The
proposed
amendment
for
the
board
investment
taxation,
and
we
table
that
matter
until
after
the
the
election
and
beginning
of
next
year,
because
of
all
the
other
items
that
we
had
on
our
plate.
So
there
are
a
number
of
options
available
to
us.
F
Mr
chairman,
I
I
think
maybe
the
the
last
one
you
mentioned
might
be.
The
might
be
the
one
to
try,
because
I
agree
that
we
have
too
many
items
going
to
be
on
the
agenda
or
on
the
ballot.
It
appears
this
coming
november
and
this
is
obviously
a
hugely
important
issue
to
be
taken
seriously.
F
So
I
would,
I
would
move
to
table
it
and
maybe
not
I'm
trying
to
think
of
indefinitely
or
until
next
year,
but
I
would
move
to
table
it
and
if,
if
some
commissioners
want
to
take
it
from
the
table,
they
can
they're
free
to
make
that
motion
anytime
so
that
I
think
that's
what
I'll
I'll
leave
it
at.
I'm
I'll
I'll.
Just
move
the
table
to
table
this
item.
D
Thank
you.
I
agree
in
part
with
chair
clegg
that
we
did
look
at
this.
D
I
think
in
2009,
according
to
the
memo
we
received
from
commissioner
cowgill,
but
at
the
time
as
I
recall,
and
I
wanted
to
clarify
this,
the
we
did
have
extensive
hearings
on
the
proposal
to
eliminate
the
park
board,
but
at
the
same
time
there
are
two
other
pro
companion,
well,
not
companion,
but
two
other
proposals,
one
for
a
city
manager
and
one
to
eliminate
the
board
of
estimate
and
taxation
and
the
the
people
who
came
to
the
hearing
to
address
the
park
board
issue
seemed
to
be
under
the
impression
that
the
proposal
was
to
eliminate
the
parks.
D
D
In
addition,
I
would
think
that
mr
bergerson
should
have
a
chance
to
respond
to
the
memo
that
we
received.
I
think
yesterday
from
the
park
board
and
also
I
agree
with
commissioner
kozak-
that
we've
already
got
way
too
much
on
the
ballot
now
in
terms
of
the
charter
and
would
much
prefer
waiting
until
after
the
election.
B
I'm
not
seeing
any
so
I'm
just
going
to
talk
briefly.
I
too
agree
in
large
part
with
with
chair
clegg.
2009
is
relatively
recent
and
I
will-
or
I
will
note
that,
at
least
in
my
memory
the
bet
proposed
and
garnered
the
majority
of
the
tension,
and
that
was
viewed
by
a
number
of
people.
B
It's
an
it's
an
interesting
idea.
This
is,
as
miss
mr
roosevelt
indicated,
is
brought
to
us
by
a
solo
signator
and
again.
That
indicates
me
at
least
in
some
accord
with
chair
clegg
that
there's
not
at
least
a
ground
swell
of
support
for
this
at
this
moment.
B
So
that's
kind
of
my
comments.
I
at
some
point
there's
an
idea
in
there,
but
I
don't
know
that
it's
anything
that
I
would
recommend
spending
time
on
at
this
point.
F
C
E
E
B
Okay,
next
item
or
that
that
matter
passes
so
that
it
is
tabled.
The
next
item
is
item.
Five,
which
is
contin,
is
considering
a
potential
amendment
to
allow
for
recall
of
the
election
of
public
officials,
and
I
would
just
notice
him
before
this
is
again
something
that
comes
in
front
of
us
from
it
appears
to
be
just
a
single
person
with
that.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
this
matter.
E
This
is
clegg.
I
have
a
question
chair
clegg.
If,
if
we
permitted
recall,
would
we
have
the
discretion
as
a
charter
city
to
require
any
percentage
of
signatures
that
we
wanted
to,
or
is
there
a
designated
statutory
level
of
signatures
that
would
be
required
to
initiate
a
recall
election.
B
Chair
clay,
my
understanding
of
this-
and
I
know
we
have
the
city
attorney-
is
listening
into
this,
but
my
understanding
of
this
that
we
would
be
free
to
set
the
parameters
of
the
what
would
constitute
a
recall
how
the
process
would
work.
So
I've
seen
a
few
of
the
recall
ordinances
or
charters
charter,
amendments
and
charter
sections,
as
well
as
the
ordinances
implementing
that
in
several
cities
and
they're
quite
varied.
B
G
The
recall
is
under
the
same
statute
for
10.20,
as
we
are
using
to
review
the
the
initiative,
the
voter
initiative
for
the
public
safety
department.
I've
done
some
research
on
that
there
is.
There
is
no
specific
provision
in
that
statute.
That
says
what
the
percentage
should
be.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
you
know
that's
one
thing
I
looked
at
when
when
I
was
helping
draft
the
language.
What
should
the
percentage
be
for
the
initiative?
It's
the
same
statute.
G
You
know
if
we
wanted
to
go
forward.
Definitely
I
could
look.
I
look
could
look
into
that
more,
but
it
seems
like
we
have
a
little
bit
of
leeway.
Like
commissioner
ginder
said.
E
While
this
has
been
proposed
by
one
one
voter,
I
I
think
it
is
also
too
early
and
too
ill
not
ill,
considered
but
unconsidered
to
put
on
the
ballot
this
year.
So
I
would
like
to.
I
won't
make
a
motion
to
table,
because
that
won't
be
debatable
at
all.
E
F
I
I
apologize
if
I
have
for
not
having
read
the
amendment,
but
first
of
all
I
would
ask
the
city
attorney
carol.
If,
if,
in
fact,
what
constraints
do
we
have
from
state
law,
I
remember
I
was
actually
remembered
the
debate
from.
I
don't
know.
10
15
years
ago,
when,
when
the
legislature
passed,
a
law
dealing
with
recounts
or
a
recall,
are
there
constraints
on
what
we're
allowed
to
do
for
grounds
and
so.
G
On
I
would
have,
I
would
have
to
look
into
that
question
probably
and
look
at
the
law
see
if
there's
any
specific
law
on
what
we
can
and
cannot
do,
based
on
that
statute
and
other
recall
legislation.
So
I
guess
I
I
would
have
to
look
at
that.
F
Okay,
well,
I
don't
think
it's
probably
that
can
wait,
and
I
guess
we
the
only
discussion.
I
know
we
had
a
discussion
when
we
when
we
talked
about
the
amendment
that
we
are
going
to,
I
think,
put
on
the
ballot
on
on
the
structure
of
city
government,
and
I
think
that
was
a.
There
was
a
discussion
about
it,
but
I
I
think
I
I
agree
with
commissioner
clegg
that
we
that
we
ought
not
to
do
this.
F
E
F
F
I
will
I
will
make
the
motion
to
table
this
item
and
then,
if
people
wanna
at
least
until
after
the
election,
the
2021
election.
If
someone
wants
to
bring
it
back
up
next
year,
they're
certainly
free
to
do
it,
and
we
can
have
a
longer
discussion.
B
I
don't
see
any
I'm
just
going
to
weigh
in
briefly
just.
I
would
just
note
that
there
there
was
no
proposed
language
offered
on
this.
It
was
just
simply
a
statement
that
came
in
camera
was
three
three
one,
one
that
somebody
would
like
to
see
recall
put
into
the
charter.
B
I
would
just
note
that
personally,
I'm
opposed
to
recall,
I
think
it's
it's
a
bad
idea.
It's
right
up
there.
I
was
initiative
and
referendum,
but
so
anyway,
I
would
really
certainly
support
the
motion
to
table
this.
C
E
B
That
matter
passes,
and
that
is
postponed
with
that.
We
have
conducted
all
the
business
that
is
to
come
before
this
amendment
review
committee
and
without
objection
we
will
stand
adjourned
and
everyone
please
stay
cool.
Thank
you
very
much
for
this.