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A
B
A
A
D
C
B
Record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum.
The
agenda
for
today's
meeting
is
in
front
of
us
I'll
begin
with
the
consent
agenda,
which
includes
items
15
through
18
on
the
agenda
item.
5
are
the
liquor
license
approvals
and
item
6?
Are
the
liquor
license
renewals
item?
Seven?
Are
the
gambling
license
approvals
and
item
number?
Eight?
B
Item
number
12
are
the
tod
applications
for
hennepin
county
item
number
13
is
setting
a
public
hearing
for
the
regulation
of
rooming
units
and
congregate
living
facilities.
Ordinance
item
number
14
are
appointments
to
the
minneapolis
workforce
development
board.
Item
number
15
are
the
grant
applications
in
the
summer
round
of
the
met
councils?
B
Livable
communities
demonstration
account
program
as
well
as
the
tod
pre-development
grant
programs
item
number
16
is
reinstatement
of
a
rental
dwelling
license
for
a
former
property
owned
by
steve
friends
and
item
17
is
approving
a
reinstatement
of
a
rental
license
for
a
property
formerly
owned
by
mahmoud
khan,
both
with
new
owners.
Item
number
18
is
rezoning
on
behalf
of
install
this
at
4800
lindale
avenue
north.
Is
there
any
discussion
or
items
that
anyone
would
like
to
pull
from
the
consent
agenda
today
seeing
none?
E
Yes,
I
will
remove
approval.
Thank
you.
B
A
A
C
B
F
This
report
was
prepared
by
inspector
christina
steester,
located
at
501
30th
avenue
southeast
in
ward
2.
The
market
at
malcolm
yards
requests
an
on
sale,
liquor
limited
to
entertainment
with
sunday
sales
license.
The
proposed
hours
of
operation
are
monday
through
thursday,
from
11
am
to
10
pm
friday
from
11
a.m,
to
11
p.m,
saturday
from
11
a.m,
to
11
p.m
and
sunday
from
10
a.m,
to
10
p.m.
F
F
Notices
were
also
sent
to
the
prospect
park,
neighborhood
association,
the
northeast
chamber
of
commerce
and
council
member
gordon.
We
have
not
received
any
comments
from
the
community
in
response
to
the
public
hearing
announcement.
The
market
at
malcolm
yards
will
be
the
only
tenant
to
hold
an
on
sale.
Liquor
license
in
this
nine
tenant.
Sixteen
thousand
square
foot
food
hall
space.
The
common
area
will
be
part
of
the
licensed
on
sale,
liquor
premises
with
construction
recently
completed.
There
are
no
police
calls
for
service
and
no
311
cases
that
can
be
attributed
to
this
business.
F
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
mr
velasquez
I'll
see
if
there
are
any
questions
for
you
on
item
number
one
seeing
none.
I
appreciate
that
report
and
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
number
one.
I
know
there
are
two
speakers
in
queue.
We'll
begin
with
speaker
number
one
which
is
jeff
ellard.
Mr
ellard
welcome,
please
press
star
six
to
unmute.
G
G
After
a
long
construction,
project,
project
and
process,
we're
excited
to
get
open
to
the
public
and
add
our
add
our
project
to
prospect
park
I'll,
leave
it
at
that
and
make
myself
available
to
any
questions,
and
I
also
I
have
patricia
wall
with
me.
So
if
you
have
questions
for
her
from
the
ownership
side,
she
could
answer
as
well.
B
H
B
It
the
public
hearing,
is
no
close,
saying
that
there
were
no
further
speakers,
and
I
would
call
on
you,
sir,
to
make
a
motion.
H
All
right,
well
I'll
do
so.
I
want
to
approve
this
and
also
just
commend
everybody
for
all
their
work
in
getting
this
done.
This
is
a
fantastic
opportunity,
an
area
that
hasn't
seen
development
like
this
for
a
long
time-
and
I
know
that
people
in
the
in
the
ward
and
throughout
the
area
are
very
excited
about
seeing
this
market
and
malcolm
yards
open
as
soon
as
possible
and
get
active.
B
A
A
G
I
Good
afternoon,
chair
goodman,
it's
been
a
while
chair,
goodman
and
members
of
the
committee.
This
is
a
land
sale
for
1511
22nd
avenue,
north
the
sale
of
which
is
through
minneapolis
homes
financings.
The
policies
were
first
approved
and
established
by
the
city
council
on
december
11,
2015
and
then
updated
on
february
february,
10
2017,
with
the
most
recent
revision
on
august
8
2020.
I
This
property
was
acquired
on
november
29
2010
from
a
private
party,
and
the
dilapidated
structure
on
the
site
was
immediately
demolished.
Staff
has
continuously
marketed
this
property
to
now
a
list
serve
of
over
three
thousand
persons,
and
this
is
only
application
received.
The
purchaser
intends
to
invest
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
move
an
existing
two-story
single-family
home
with
four
bedrooms
and
two
bathrooms
from
the
site.
I
That's
actually
adjacent
to
the
next
item
on
the
agenda:
the
satori
boutique
apartment
site
onto
a
new
foundation
to
be
built
at
15,
11,
26
avenue
north.
That
will
have
two
bedrooms
and
one
bathroom
a
unit
in
the
basement.
Creating
a
new
3196
square
foot
duplex
finish
development
with
the
new
detached
three-car
garage.
The
developer
will
sell
this
home
to
an
approved
household,
not
to
exceed
80
ami.
The
newly
created
rental
unit
would
be
leased
to
a
house
so
not
to
exceed
60
ami
or
area
median
income.
I
Cpes
construction
management
staff
reviewed
the
plans
and
estimates
submitted
by
the
applicants
and
confirmed
they
are
sufficient
to
meet
the
minimum
new
construction
standards
of
the
program.
Notification
was
provided
to
the
jordan
area
community
council
on
march
26
2021,
the
neighborhood
notified
staff
on
april
16
2021
of
their
support
for
the
riverfront
development
partners.
Llc
proposal,
the
developer
ian
alexander
of
riverfront
development
partners
was
notified
of
today's
meeting
and
I
believe
he
may
be
in
queue
for
also
answering
questions
or
any
comments.
Are
there
any
questions
of
me.
B
Are
there
any
questions
for
mr
ramadan
on
his
report
on
item
number?
Two
seeing
none.
Thank
you,
mr
ramadan,
for
your
report.
We
don't
see
any
registered
speakers
for
items
number
two
or
three.
I
just
want
to
note
that
for
staff,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing
and
confirm
with
the
clerk
that
there
are
no
speakers
in
queue
for
this
item.
B
B
A
A
F
B
That
carries
and
the
motion
is
approved,
mr
ramadan.
Thank
you.
We'll
move
to
item
number
three,
which
is
a
land
sale
for
satori
boutique
apartments,
I'll
note
that
we
have
the
financing
in
front
of
this,
the
last
cycle
or
the
cycle
before
this
is
at
8
17
and
a
half
west
broadway
813
and
1832
bryant.
I
will
call
on
ms
glasper
to
give
this
report.
J
J
J
The
project
will
feature
a
mix
of
one
and
two
bedroom
units,
23
of
which
will
be
affordable
to
households
at
or
below
50
percent.
Ami,
the
project
will
also
include
underground
parking,
a
community
room,
a
fitness
center
bicycle
parking
and
storage,
outdoor
gathering,
space
and
green
spaces,
on-site
property
management
and
approximately
3
000
square
feet
of
commercial
retail
space.
On
the
ground
floor,
the
total
development
costs
for
the
project
are
currently
estimated
at
approximately
33
million
dollars.
J
The
developer
has
secured
all
of
the
financing
necessary
to
bring
the
project
to
fruition,
and
we
expect
to
close
the
project
sometime
in
august.
There
is
a
project
data
worksheet
attached
to
your
report
that
provides
details
on
the
project's
sources
and
uses
the
sale
of
the
parcels
is
in
compliance
with
the
city's
disposition
policy.
The
parcels
will
be
sold
for
redevelopment
for
twenty
three
thousand
two
hundred
dollars,
reflecting
the
full
fair
reuse
value.
J
The
northside
residence
redevelopment
council
has
been
afforded
opportunities
to
review
and
comment
on
this
project
throughout
the
process.
Staff
recommends
the
sale
of
these
parcels
to
satori
apartments,
one
llc
or
an
affiliate
for
twenty
three
thousand
two
hundred
dollars.
I'm
happy
to
field
questions.
If
you
have
any
are.
B
There
any
questions
for
miss
glasper
on
these
land
sales
to
facilitate
the
satori
apartments
project,
seeing
none.
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
your
work.
This
has
been
a
long
time
coming
and
we
really
appreciate
everything.
You've
done
with
this
been
a
pleasure,
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing.
I
don't
believe
there
are
any
speakers
in
queue
for
item
number
three,
but
I'd
like
to
confirm
that
with
the
clerk
please.
B
A
C
B
B
I
know
that
the
staff
has
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
anyone
on
the
committee
who
was
willing-
and
I
council
member
schroeder
and
I
did
join
a
presentation
last
week,
I'm
going
to
call
on
kevin
knies
who
is
going
to
give
a
report,
and
then
we
will
take
the
public
hearing
on
all
items
together
and
I
do
note
that
there
are
four
or
five
people
signed
up
for
the
public
hearing
and
we
will
take
them
after
the
report.
So
I
will
turn
this
over
to
staff
and
thank
you
very
much
for
giving
this
report.
K
K
Today,
I
will
give
an
overview
of
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
with
our
minneapolis
homes,
financing
program
and
touch
on
our
recent
programmatic
outcomes
and
components
before
presenting
the
recommendations
for
approval
next
slide.
Please
minneapolis
financing
program
goals
tied
to
our
minneapolis
2040
comp
plan
goals
to
eliminate
disparities,
grow
our
city
equitably,
provide
affordable
and
accessible
housing
throughout
the
city
and
achieve
climate
resilience.
K
K
K
A
programmatic
change
approved
by
city
council
in
july
of
this
previous
year,
was
reducing
the
income
limits
of
our
program
to
eighty
percent
of
area
median
income.
The
minneapolis
financing
program
has
three
income
year,
tiers
that
we
use.
They
are
sixty
one
percent,
the
eighty
percent
of
area
median
income,
forty
one
percent
to
60
of
area,
median
income
and
below
40
percent
ami.
K
So
an
example
would
be
if
we're
looking
at
a
developer,
that
is
building
a
three-bedroom
home
in
the
upper
right-hand
corner
of
the
slide
that
home
that's
affordable
to
a
61
to
80
ami
household
would
be
serving
a
household
with
a
maximum
income
of
seventy
eight
thousand
five
hundred
and
an
affordable
price
would
be
at
two
hundred
fifty
three
thousand
for
that
household.
The
city
would
then
be
providing
up
to
ninety
thousand
dollars
of
maximum
combined
subsidy
to
make
that
unit
be
constructed
and
sold
to
an
affordable
buyer.
K
Next
slide
staff
is
recommending
36
projects
in
total
that
will
produce
62
new
ownership
units
from
13
developers,
three
of
which
are
new
to
our
program.
The
proposal
types
are
varied
and
include
more
multi-unit
housing
units
than
single-family
housing
units,
which
is
a
first
for
our
program
and
also
connects
back
to
the
2040
plan.
Comp
plan
goals
of
producing
a
more
diverse
variety
of
housing
types
that
meet
different
community
needs.
K
K
This
application
round
included
a
sustainability
certification
pilot
that
provided
an
incentive
of
20
of
total
development
cost
not
to
exceed
90
000
per
unit
for
improvements
that
result
in
the
home
being
constructed
to
either
passive
home
or
net
zero
standards.
A
net
zero
home
is
one
that
has
increased
construction
requirements
such
as
wall
assembly
and
installation
that,
with
the
addition
of
solar
panels
on
the
roof
allow
for
the
utility
cost
to
be
offset,
there
are
seven
units
that
are
proposed
to
be
developed
to
this
standard.
K
A
passive
home
is
one
that
is
super
insulated,
among
other
substantial
improvements
that
result
in
an
ultra
efficient
home
with
extremely
low
energy
cost,
which
thus
increases
climate
resiliency
and
affordability
for
the
purchaser
13
units
are
proposed
to
be
passive
next
slide.
Please,
the
city
adopted
a
preference
policy
for
up
to
50
percent
of
units
developed
through
the
program,
and
that
would
apply
if
a
home
receives
multiple
offers.
K
Now
I
will
give
a
brief
overview
of
the
recommendations.
Amani
construction
and
renovations
is
recommended
to
build
four
duplexes
black
lives
of
unitarian,
universalism
or
blue
is
recommended
for
a
partial
funding.
Commitment
for
a
promising
new
housing
cooperative
model
that
is
finalizing
their
cooperative
legal
structure
and
design
and
build
wealth
of
minnesota
is
recommended
for
two
three-unit
row:
homes,
which
are
the
first
six
units
of
the
city's
new
perpetually
affordable
housing
model.
K
K
K
K
Next
slide,
please,
and
with
that,
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
that
you
may
have
and
know
that
there
are
a
number
of
applicants
that
are
here
to
share
with
a
couple
words,
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
express
that
I've
corresponded
with
a
number
of
the
applicants
that
were
not
able
to
make
it
today,
but
they
wanted
to
share
their
gratitude
and
excitement
for
the
recommendations
for
approval
before
you
today.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
mr
knace,
we'll
see
if
there's
anyone
on
the
council,
who
has
any
questions
for
staff
about
this
very
fulsome
report,
sing.
None
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
number
four,
and
I
see
that
we
have
four
people
who
are
scheduled
to
speak
and
before
they
speak.
I
just
want
to
say
to
each
of
you
thank
you
and
congratulations.
You
really
don't
not
need
to
be
thanking
the
city.
We
should
be
thanking
you
from
for
doing
this
incredible
work.
B
In
the
end,
the
city
is
a
facilitator
of
being
able
to
get
people
in
the
community
to
do
good
things
and
every
one
of
you
on
this
call
is
really
doing
some
amazing
work
to
help
with
home
ownership
in
our
community.
The
four
people
scheduled
to
speak
are
stacy
horowitz,
jeff,
washburn,
lena
gardner
and
paul
gates,
we'll
take
them
in
that
order
and
invite
stacy
to
speak.
Please
press
star
six
to
unmute.
M
N
Thank
you,
chair
goodman
members
of
the
committee.
I
didn't
know
if
I
was
gonna
be
on
the
call
today,
I'm
on
vacation
this
week,
but
I
really
wanted
to
thank
the
city.
This
is
something,
as
many
of
you
know
is-
is
a
passion
of
the
city
like
community
land,
trust,
long-term
affordability,
as
my
colleagues
shared
approval
of
our
our
two
unit
project
that
we're
proposing,
but
also
the
blue
project
properties
with
urban
homeworks.
N
The
the
actions
of
the
city
and
the
city
council
over
the
last
two
years
really
are
are
huge
steps
in
the
right
direction
toward
long-term
affordability,
not
only
creating
opportunities
for
for
households
to
get
in
home
ownership
in
a
city
that
continues
to
become
more
and
more
costly,
but
but
also
a
huge
opportunity
for
us
as
a
city
to
ensure
that
future
generations
of
low
and
moderate
income
buyers
can
be
able
to
have
home
ownership
well
into
the
future.
N
So,
thank
you
really
really
appreciative
and
really
looking
forward
to
partnering
with
the
city
and
and
other
partner
developers.
B
M
Hello,
hello,
hello,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
present
a
brief
comment.
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
black
lives
of
unitarian,
universalism
or
blue.
I
just
wanted
to
say
we
are
very
excited
to
be
working
on
the
cooperative
housing
initiative
and
I
had
two
quick
updates
too.
That
has
happened
since
our
application.
M
The
first
is
to
let
you
know:
we've
secured
legal
representation
with
simpson
law
firm
and
are
engaged
with
the
real
estate
council
to
determine
one
the
best
way
to
subdivide
our
building
into
three
units,
the
best
form
of
common
interest
community
form,
whether
that's
co-op,
condo
or
planned
community,
and
third,
the
legal
structure
for
transferring
the
property
to
the
city
of
lakes,
land
trust
and
subsequent
owners
of
the
units
which
just
already
mentioned.
We
are
inactive,
developing
our
partnership
with
with
them.
M
Really
grateful
for
that
partnership,
we're
also
working
on
our
formal
partnership
with
urban
homework,
to
recruit
the
families
and
help
families
to
get
into
the
cooperative.
And
lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
if
you
all
have
any
other
questions,
also
our
architect,
demars
hollingsworth,
is
on
the
call-
and
we
just
want
to
assure
everyone
that
we're
working
really
closely
to
be
in
compliance
with
all
of
the
city
ordinances
and
to
really
get
this
project
up
off
the
ground.
B
C
M
P
Not
here
here
goodman,
I
am
in
fact
I
am
on
the
line.
Sorry,
you
took
a
moment
there,
sir
goodman
and
council
members.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration
of
this
project
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
lakes,
land
trust
and
lindell
boulevard
development.
We
are
grateful
for
your
consideration
of
this
thanks
to
kevin
knies.
For
his
comments
to
his
comments.
I
will
simply
add
that
the
project
is
affordable
at
50
percent
ami,
so
we
think
that
it
is
deeply
affordable.
P
P
P
We
also
think
that
at
34
units
per
acre
that
we
are
achieving
density,
which
is
both
called
for
in
the
comprehensive
plan,
and
while
we
are
able
to
to
retain
the
two
and
three-story
building
height-
that's
prevalent
in
the
neighborhood.
For
that
reason,
the
neighborhood
has
welcomed
this
project.
B
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
am
happy
to
move
this
item
forward
and
just
excited
for
all
the
projects.
I'm
excited
to
see
so
many
familiar
names
coming
forward
with
with
awesome
projects.
B
B
It
is
a
massive
undertaking
by
our
staff,
and
I
want
to
thank
all
of
our
staff
for
the
work
that
they've
done
to
get
us
to
this
point,
to
take
the
feedback
of
all
of
the
council
members
who
have
very
passionate
opinions
about
how
we
move
forward
with
promoting
homeownership,
especially
as
it
pertains
to
our
bipod
communities
in
ways
that
don't
displace
and
gentrify
neighborhoods.
This
is
really
an
excellent
example
of
policy.
B
Turning
into
transactional
projects
that
will
affect
the
lives
of
people,
I'm
really
just
very
very
happy
to
see
all
this
work
move
forward
and
thank
all
of
our
partners
for
stepping
up,
and
hopefully
we'll
be
right
back
at
this
with
another
large
group
of
projects
like
this
within
the
year
as
we
are
recommending
using
some
of
the
federal
funding
to
continue
programs
like
this.
A
A
A
B
That
carries
and
the
motion
is
approved.
We'll
then
move
on
to
our
last
item,
which
is
item
number
19.
This
is
a
discussion
item.
This
is
the
local
historic,
designation
consideration
of
the
glendale
town
homes.
I
will
turn
this
over
to
our
staff
for
a
presentation
and
call
on
miss
burke
and
thank
you
for
being
here
today.
Q
Thank
you
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
andrea
burke
and
I'm
the
supervisor
for
the
historic
preservation
team
in
cped.
I
am
presenting
this
afternoon
the
historic
designation
study
for
the
glendale
townhouse's
historic
district,
which
is
proposed
in
the
prospect
park,
east
river,
road,
neighborhood
and
owned
by
the
minneapolis
public
housing
authority.
Next
slide,
please,
in
september
of
2018
cam
gordon
minneapolis
city
council,
member
from
the
second
ward,
submitted
the
nomination
to
cpad
for
the
glendale
townhouse's
historic
district.
It
was
placed
under
interim
protection
by
the
hpc
on
april
9
2019.
Q
The
study
evaluated
a
potential
historic
district
consisting
of
184
town
homes,
spread
across
28
buildings
on
14
and
a
half
acres
of
land
bounded
by
27th
avenue,
southeast
delaware
street
southeast
williams,
avenue
southeast
and
saint
mary's
place
next
slide.
Please
completed
in
1952,
the
complex
was
developed
by
the
minneapolis
housing
and
redevelopment
authority,
the
precursor
to
the
mpha
and
designed
by
architects
larsen
and
mclaren,
while
landscape
architect,
hugh
fenin,
designed
a
landscape
plan.
Q
Q
The
buildings
are
uniform
between
one
and
two
stories:
rectangular
and
plan
with
a
front
portico.
The
exteriors
retain
their
original
brick
on
the
first
floor,
but
composite
siding
added
in
1989
on
the
second
floor
has
replaced
the
original
cement
asbestos
siding
the
buildings
originally
had
flat
roofs
with
flat
roof
porticoes,
but
those
were
replaced
with
hip
roofs
and
gable
roofs
over
the
porticos
in
1972
and
1989
respectively.
Q
The
study
completed
by
cpad
found
that
the
complex
had
significance
or
has
significance
under
two
local
criteria
in
the
preservation
ordinance
criterion,
1,
which
is
in
the
areas
of
social
history
and
community
planning
and
criterion
5
for
its
approach
to
public
housing
in
its
development
and
landscape
design
of
the
complex
next
slide.
Please.
Q
While
significant
the
complex
has
compromised
historic
integrity
due
to
the
large
renovations
in
the
1970s
and
1980s,
and
the
district
no
longer
resembles
a
post-world
war
ii
housing
complex
for
which
it
is
significant.
Both
the
state,
historic
preservation
office
and
the
city
planning
commission
concurred
with
the
findings
of
cped's
designation
study
next
slide.
Q
Please
cpad
also
prepared
a
racial
equity
impact
analysis
for
this
designation
as
the
racial
demographics
of
the
prospect
park.
Neighborhood
is
7.4
percent,
black
19.2
percent
asian
and
two
point:
eight
percent
hispanic
or
latino
point
five
percent,
american,
indian
and
sixty
five
point:
five
percent
white
and
four
point
three
percent:
two
or
more
races.
Q
Two,
the
district
is
significant
for
its
development
pattern,
inclusive
of
its
green
space
versus
hardscape
and
its
relationship
to
the
building
forms
and
three.
The
buildings
are
uniform
in
their
brick.
Veneer
exteriors
fenestration
pattern,
entryway
placement
and
overall
massing,
which
are
the
character
defining
features
of
the
buildings
in
this
historic
district
since
april
of
2020,
interim
protection
on
the
historic
district
has
expired
and
per
the
request
of
war
ii.
Q
Q
The
city's
preservation
ordinance
can
only
regulate
the
exterior
architecture
of
the
existing
buildings
and
any
new
construction
through
historic
design
guidelines
that
must
meet
the
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
for
rehabilitation.
Thank
you
and
this
concludes
my
presentation.
I
am
available
for
any
questions.
B
Go,
let's
see
we'll
hear
from
council
member
gordon,
followed
by
council
member
asman.
H
Well,
I'm
prepared
to
make
some
lengthier
comments
and
I
have
a
motion
prepared
too,
but
I
think
that
maybe
council
member
osman
I'd
appreciate
hearing
from
him
first
as
well.
I'll.
Just
maybe
note
that
I
was
pretty
surprised
to
see
that
analysis.
H
I
know
that
public
housing
also
has
it
seemed
like
there
was
an
assumption
that
if
we
did
a
historic
designation,
then
it
would
lose
its
public
housing.
That's
not
an
automatic
assumption
and
if
there
is
any
kind
of
declaration
of
trust
on
public
housing
like
there
generally
is
that
wouldn't
be
touched
by
this
action
or
anything
else
so,
and
I
noticed
there
wasn't
much
substantiation
in
that,
and
I
don't
really
have
a
question
about
that.
H
B
D
I'll
speak.
Thank
you,
chair
goodman,
and
the
staff
for
that
presentation.
I
will
not
support
this
item.
Glendale
housing,
public
housing
is
home
to
black
and
brown
families
in
prosper.
Park
neighborhood,
which
mainly
consists
of
a
white
rich
folks
in
that
area.
D
D
Also,
it
does
not.
It
does
not
help
close
to
ten
thousand
close
to
ten
thousand
waiting
lists
of
families,
mainly
minority
communities,
people
of
color.
I
believe,
eighty
percent
of
those
eight
thousand
waiting
list,
our
community
of
color.
D
The
staff-
does
not
support
us.
We
hear
this.
Their
presentation,
so
is
the
2040
plan
prosper
prosper.
Park
neighborhood
is
growing
with
many
high-scale
apartments.
I
plea.
I
believe
this
proposal
is
not
it's
not
for
good
intention,
but
to
keep
public
housing
development
away
from
this
neighborhood.
D
I
am
someone
who
grew
up
in
public
housing,
which
gave
me
and
my
family
opportunity
to
go
to
school
to
go
to
work.
I
do
believe
I
do
not
believe
stubborn
development
is
helpful
to
minority
communities
and
immigrant
communities
in
our
communities.
D
D
D
So,
in
the
name
of
historical
designation,
that
is
now
a
minority
community
wants-
and
let
me
say
this-
those
folks
at
prosper-
park
neighborhood
that
are
sending
out
emails,
saying
that
if
we
don't
approve
this,
we
are
somehow
a
racist.
D
Now
I
believe
what
is
racist
is
stopping
more
public
housing
development
in
your
neighborhood
and
keeping
out
black
and
brown
folks
in
in
moving
in
prosper
park.
Neighborhood,
it's
a
beautiful
neighborhood.
I
have
nothing
against
it.
There's
beautiful
high-rise,
upscale
apartments,
students,
folks
that
are
high
income
live
there,
and
I
believe
this
plan.
D
If
we
move
forward,
which
I
will
not
support,
will
will
create
more
a
lot
of
units
and
also
will
not
give
us
any
any
hopeful
for
our
20-40
plan
and
trying
to
create
more
dense
communities,
more
unities,
more
units,
as
we
hear
the
presentation
before
this,
that
is
what
we
want
to
see
more
units
in
our
in
our
communities.
D
So
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
again
I
will
not
be
supporting
this
item.
H
Thank
you
very
much
and
it's
always
helpful
to
hear
what
other
people
are
thinking
about
this,
it's
very
different
than
what
I've
been
hearing
from
residents
there
or
the
intentions
that
I
would
have
that
this
designation
could
help
provide.
I
first
heard
about
this
in
2015,
and
there
was
actually
a
study,
then
that
suggested
that
there
was
something
historic
about
this
and
also
that
there
was
even
integrity
even
in
the
buildings,
because
they
were
all
changed
together
in
the
same
amount
of
time.
H
So
I
actually
sent
a
survey
to
every
resident
that
lived
in
glendale.
We
held
a
meeting
there
that
city
staff
came
to
and
so
that
they
could
talk
about
what
his
historic,
designation
and
even
the
nomination
might
mean,
and
what
changes
could
be
made
and
improvements
could
be
made.
H
People
came
to
this
meeting
and
they
were
worried
and
concerned
because
they
had
just
come
off
of
seeing
plans
from
mpha
for
demolishing
all
the
properties
and
building
large-scale
apartments.
That
would
include
expensive
luxury
apartments
and
still
preserving
the
same
amount
of
public
housing,
and
they
didn't
want
to
lose
their
community
that
they
knew
and
loved.
So
they
were
supportive
of
moving
forward.
In
fact,
the
whole
neighborhood
group,
beyond
the
residents
of
glendale,
also
looked
into
it
and
sent
in
letters
of
support,
including
local
churches
and
those
things.
H
H
I
think
there
was
one
the
property
owner
came
and
spoke
opposed
everyone
else
who
spoke,
including
residents
and
of
the
of
glendale,
but
those
people
who
also
lived
in
the
broader
community
came
in
and
spoke
in
support
of
it.
I
kind
of
wish
we
could
be
in
in
city
hall
today
and
see
how
many
people
would
be
sitting
there
in
chairs
in
the
room
supporting
this
designation
folks
from
glendale
and
elsewhere.
H
I
do
want
to
note
that
I
am
very
so
sorry
and
I
don't
think
it's
helpful
at
all
to
say,
disparaging
comments
about
council
members
in
these
regards
I
haven't
seen
all
the
emails,
I'm
sure
in
messages
that
have
come
in.
I
know
that
people
have
passionate
and
strong
feelings
about
this
and,
and
it
looks
like
we
could
turn
it
in
either
direction
of
this
argument
apparently
and
talk
about
who
is
the
concerned
most
about
by
folks
and
and
perhaps
we
are,
but
I
don't
think
any
well.
H
I
encourage
people
to
resist
that
and
recommend
that
they
do
so
once
the
designation
went
forward
and
I
was
willing
to
make
the
nomination
I
wanted
to
to
do
so
in
a
way
that
was
objective
and
I
sat
back
and
was
waiting
to
see
what
the
experts
would
have
to
say
about
this,
how
it
would
fare
in
our
city
process
and
when
it
came
back,
the
experts
had
completed
their
study
and
they
identified
that,
in
fact,
it
was
historically
significant
under
two
criteria,
I'll
quote
from
that
report.
H
In
that
study,
it
noticed
under
criteria
one
about
its
association
with
significant
events.
The
glendale
townhomes
historic
district
is
significant
under
criteria,
one
in
the
area
of
social
history
and
community
planning
for
its
role
in
the
development
of
affordable
housing
in
minneapolis
constructed
under
the
newly
formed
minneapolis
housing
redevelopment
authority.
Glendale
was
the
first
public
housing
complex
built
in
minneapolis,
and
this
was
in
response
to
the
housing
shortage
after
world
war
ii,
and
it's
still
there.
I
added
that
last
bit
myself.
H
It's
significant
under
five
for
its
approach
to
public
housing
and
its
development
and
landscape
design
in
a
departure
from
the
dense
urban
living
present
in
other
areas
of
the
city
in
the
late
1940s
and
1950s,
the
glendale
development
mirrored
the
quality
and
design
of
private
housing.
The
complex
was
planned
with
low-density
townhouses,
that
offered
light
space,
ventilation
and
playgrounds,
envisioned
with
a
community-centered
design,
with
open
lawns
and
shared
public
spaces.
H
A
new
approach
to
affordable
housing
for
low-income
families
by
allowing
them
to
occupy
quality
housing
and
family-friendly
community
spaces,
similar
to
the
private
developments
in
established
neighborhoods,
in
other
words,
in
wealthier
neighborhoods.
I'll,
also
say
that
when
we
wanted
to
build
some
new
public
housing
in
the
city
of
minneapolis-
and
we
did
so
not
a
few
years
ago
for
the
first
time
in
a
long
time,
there
were
also
town
homes
that
were
built
not
as
many,
but
it
followed
this
model.
H
But
most
of
them
haven't
been
this
family
oriented
housing
with
front
doors
and
back
doors
and
gardens
and
yards
like
we
see
in
most
of
our
neighborhoods.
But
this
was
the
first
public
housing
that
was
built,
and
it's
still
there
today
this
the
fact
that
it's
historic
was
also
echoed
by
other
experts
and
certainly
has
come
up
and
at
the
hpc
itself.
H
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
what
you
have
to
do
when
something
is
changed
or
modified,
and
many
of
the
commissioners
spoke
about
how
this
was
unique,
because
every
one
of
the
buildings
was
changed
in
the
same
way.
So
it
tells
the
same
story
and
even
at
different
time
periods,
and
it's
so
in
in
a
way
the
integrity
is
still
there.
Now.
I
also
was
curious
about
was
this
something
that
would
be
in
our
consistent
with
our
comp
plan?
H
And
I
know
people
have
talked
a
lot
about
the
density
in
the
area
and
what
we
want
there
and
the
comp
plan
does
call
for
four-story
buildings
there,
which
would
be
more
dense
than
these,
but
we
also
have
some
goals
in
our
comp
plan
that
call
out
history
and
culture
and
in
2040
we
say
in
the
comp
plan.
The
physical
attributes
of
minneapolis
will
reflect
the
city's
history
and
cultures,
and
it
elaborates
on
this
goal
and
says
to
achieve
the
goal
of
having
physical
attributes
that
reflect
its
history
and
culture.
H
The
city
of
minneapolis
will
broaden
its
understanding
of
important
places
through
engagement
with
cultural
communities,
communities
of
color
and
indigenous
communities.
The
city
will
use
the
feedback
from
this
engagement
to
help
identify
and
preserve
buildings,
landscapes
and
other
places
important
to
the
city's
heritage.
That
is
exactly
what
we've
done
in
this
process,
and
this
is
exactly
what
we've
identified
as
important
to
our
heritage.
The
stories
that
are
in
these
buildings,
the
association
with
the
university
of
minnesota,
how
many
people
have
used
this
as
their
stepping
stone
to
move
on
with
their
lives?
H
It
also
says,
in
our
plan
under
policy
92
that
we
will
identify
and
evaluate
historic
resources,
continue
to
identify
and
examine
and
evaluate
historic
contexts
and
resources,
with
a
focus
on
communities
that
have
been
traditionally
been
under
represented,
and
I
think
that
is
the
case
that
has
happened
with
glendale
and
people
talked
about
density
and
what
we
should
do
around
the
rail
station,
and
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
that
prospect
park
is
growing
in
density.
H
In
2018,
the
population
was
eight
thousand
four
hundred
some
and
now
it
is,
it
is
fourteen
thousand
two
hundred
and
eighty
three.
It
has
added
five
thousand
eight
hundred
and
one
residents
good
luck
with
that.
Redistricting
commission,
but
that's
a
68
increase
in
population
density
and
the
area
has
added
1
662
new
housing
units.
H
H
I'll
also
note
that
the
the
district
itself
doesn't
include
all
the
area,
that's
owned
by
a
public
housing,
and
I
would
like
to
point
out
an
opportunity
for
some
growth
and
development
and
and
if
we
could
clerk,
if
you
could
put
up
that
picture,
there's
just
four
quick
pictures
that
I
would
like
to
show.
H
I
don't
have
a
map
to
show
you
of
the
district,
but
if
you
look
back
you'll
see
there
was
a
area
that
was
carved
out
that
wasn't
part
of
the
historic
district,
and
it's
this
newer
building
right
here,
and
I
just
want
you
to
get
a
sense
for
the
size
of
this
building
and
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
which
shows
the
other
side
of
it
and
that
size.
This
is
a
large
piece
of
property,
it's
so
large.
In
fact,
there
we
can
see
the
back
of
the
building.
H
H
I
hope
if
you
can
switch
to
the
next
slide,
that
would
be
great.
Now.
It's
slated
for
four
stories
right
now,
but
this
is
a
development
opportunity
and
I
think
that
the
city,
council
or
others
we
could
modify
the
comp
plan
and
we
could
look
at
how
high
it
could
be.
There's
the
potential
for
more
six
stories,
potentially
10
stories
if
you
build
into
the
hill
and
there
would
be
support
for
that
kind
of
density,
adding
that
kind
of
public
housing
there'd
actually
be
support.
H
Thanks
for
showing
us
those
slides-
and
I
am
I-
I
would
just
like
to
read
a
little
portion
of
the
letter
from
one
of
the
residents-
and
this
should
be-
and
I
know
there
were
lots
of
letters
that
came
in
lots
of
emails,
some
of
them
with
overly
strong
and
potentially
offensive
language,
but
almost
all
of
them
in
support
of
the
designation.
H
H
This
is
from
caha
who
lives
in
glendale
town
homes
and
was
raised
there
lived
there.
All
her
life
is
now
a
student
at
the
university
of
minnesota.
Preparing
to
graduate
glendale's
case
for
historic
designation
should
be
its
community
value,
not
opposition
from
its
owners
that
have
tried
to
privatize
it
in
the
past
and
plan
to
do
so
in
the
future.
Historical
designation
is
necessary
because
glendale
is
necessary.
Glendale
is
both
historically
valuable
and
is
an
active
and
vibrant
community.
H
It
has
existed
for
decades
to
serve
our
city's
most
vulnerable
families
and
should
continue
to
exist
to
serve
those
families
and
its
greater
community
for
decades
to
come.
The
residents
of
glendale
prospect
park
residents
in
the
larger
minneapolis
community
values
glendale
that
and
its
important
place
in
our
city's
history,
make
it
worthy
of
historic
designation,
and
I
think
I'll
close.
I
just
want
to
read
something
that
charlene
royce
is
from
hess
royce.
A
famous
historian
and
preservationist
in
the
city
wrote
recently
in
2021
catalyzed
by
the
events
of
the
past
year.
H
Preservationists
are
examining
the
preservation
infrastructure,
a
product
of
the
culture
that
has
dominated
our
country
since
the
colonial
era.
Not
surprisingly,
the
existing
system
has
led
to
a
preponderance
of
properties
considered
historically
significant
for
their
association
with
people
who
are
white,
male
christian,
straight
and
prosperous.
H
Likewise,
aesthetics
weigh
heavily
on
evaluations
of
significance,
favoring,
high
style
buildings
or
vernacular
properties
with
pristine
features.
These
biases
devalue
properties
that
have
like
the
people
associated
with
them
experience,
different
and
sometimes
difficult
realities
and
express
standards
of
beauty,
not
conforming
to
mainstream
parameters,
often
acknowledged
or
often
unacknowledged.
Rather,
these
people
and
properties
have
played
significant
roles
in
our
nation's
history.
H
With
thoughtful
adjustments
in
how
regulations
are
interpreted
and
programs
are
implemented,
the
preservation
infrastructure
seems
flexible
enough
to
accommodate
the
diversity
of
america's
history,
and
I'm
hoping
we
can
be
flexible
enough
to
accommodate
the
city's
history
in
all
its
variety
in
all
its
richness.
I
encourage
my
colleagues
to
read
all
the
correspondence
that
has
come
in.
We
also
heard
from
historic,
st
paul.
It
seems
like
you
know.
H
The
experts
in
historic
designation
are
willing
to
support
this
and
come
on
board
as
well
as
the
the
residents
or
you
know,
council
members
like
myself,
who
really
aren't
experts
and
really
don't
know
this.
I
realize
this
is
a
difficult
decision.
I
just
want
you
to
know
that.
H
I
want
to
and
wanted
to
bring
property
owners
on
board
and
mpha
and
have
reached
out.
I
think
there
are
things
that
we
can
think
about
and
that
we
can
talk
about
and
that
there
are
options
so
that
the
needs
could
be
met
all
the
way
around.
I
appreciate
right
now
that
the
funding
systems
are
complicated.
H
I
think
it's
absolutely
bizarre
that
it's
easier
to
tear
down
and
take
away
a
building
that
exists
because
of
how
to
get
the
funding.
So
it's
it's
there.
It's
we're,
saying
it's
easier
to
finance
building
a
much
more
expensive
new
building
than
it
is
to
just
renovate
and
at
much
lower
cost
and
upgrade
a
smaller
building.
So
that's
a
difficult
challenge
to
be
made.
H
H
I
came
in
here
hoping
that
I
could
move
this
forward
for
recommendation
and
in
typical
gordon
rose
colored
glasses
fashion.
Maybe
you
thought
we
could
do
it
unanimously
since
then.
I
believe
that
that's
not
going
to
be
the
case
and
if
I
moved
it
forward
for
recommendation
right
now,
it
would
have
a
big
risk
of
failing.
H
So
what
I'd
like
to
ask
you
to
allow
me
to
do
at
this
time?
Colleagues
is
unanimously
vote
to
move
it
forward
without
recommendation
providing
some
time
between
now
and
the
council
for
me
to
talk
to
you
to
talk
to
other
council
members
to
help.
If
you
want
read
from
other
correspondents,
we've
received
or
give
you
a
chance
to
meet
with
other
experts,
people
in
the
neighborhood
residents
there
and
maybe
see
if
there
can't
be
something
we
can
do
between
now
in
the
council
meeting
to
get
support
for
a
designation
of
some
kind.
B
A
D
H
H
Motion
so
just
to
be
clear
everyone
we
just
moved
not
to
move
it
forward
without
recommendation.
My
only
motion
I
would
like
to
make
then,
is
to
move
it
forward
with
recommendation.
R
A
R
Before
chair
goodman
in
in
order
to
do
this
is
ken
from
the
clerk's
office.
In
order
to
dispense
with
the
item,
we
would
need
to
have
a
successful
motion,
otherwise
it
would
remain
on
the
agenda,
so
a
new,
a
new
motion
would
still
be
in
order.
At
this
point.
B
B
Didn't
know
that,
but
guess
someone's
got
to
do
it,
so
I
will.
Is
there
further
discussion
seeing
none
I'll
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role.
E
Oh,
thank
you.
You
know
in
in
my
discussions
with
mpha
and
with
councilmember
gordon
I'm,
I'm
optimistic
that
there
could
be
some
kind
of
compromise
here.
I
think
that
I'm
councilmember
osman
made
some
some
great
points,
but
I
also
want
to
push
back
on
the
notion
that
count
that
councilmember
gordon
is
you
know
against
having
a
diverse
community
in
his
ward.
E
I
don't
think
that
that
is
his
motivation
at
all,
and
so,
and
so
I
think
just
with
that
being
said,
you
know
I'm
I'm
I'm
interested
in
in
understanding
what
what
could
be
worked
out
between
mpha
and
councilmember,
gordon.
What
will
allow
us
to
both
maybe
get
some
of
the
historic
designation
that
you're
that
you're
looking
for
a
council
member
without
totally
torpedoing
mpha's
ability
to
increase
this
vital,
affordable
housing
amenity.
E
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
name
that
and
just
say
that
you
know
I
felt
like
designating.
The
entire
thing
was
was
maybe
going
to
be
a
huge
hindrance
on
our
ability
to
provide
affordable
housing
to
the
neighborhood
in
the
in
the
future
and
that
it
seemed
like
both
yourself
and
the
folks
at
mpha
were
at
least
open
to
some
kind
of
compromise,
and
I'm
a
little
bit.
E
That's
not
really
a
question
in
there,
but
I
I
I
just
wanted
just
to
to
name
that
and
just
say
that
I
I
have
no
doubt
that
the
intention
from
councilmember
gordon
is,
is
not
to
restrict
who
can
live
in
his
community,
but
I
do
think
that
that
may
have
been
some
of
the
that
could
ultimately
be
the
unintended
consequence.
So
I
wanted
to
name
that
and
that
if
this
was
to
come
forward
in
some
other
capacity
that
I
I'd
I'd
be
open
to
supporting
that
in
the
future.
So.
B
Thank
you,
council,
member
ellison,
councilmember
gordon
did
you
want
to
reply
to
that?
Do
you
want
me
to
speak
about
our
visit
this
morning?
What
is
what
is
your
intent.
H
Well,
I
I
would,
I
always
like
to
hear
from
folks,
so
I
would
appreciate
you
speaking,
but
I
did
want
to
say
that
was
my
intent
about
moving
it
forward.
Without
recommendation
was
to
give
some
opportunity
between
now
and
the
council
meeting
to
have
some
discussions
and
see
if
there
could
be
a
compromise
found
right
along
the
lines
of
what
council
member
ellison
was
saying.
So
I'm
confused
why
he
voted
against
moving
it
forward
without
recommendation.
H
If
he
would
reconsider
that,
I
would
move
to
reconsider
the
question,
although
I
guess
I
was
on
the
losing
side
of
all
of
those
votes,
so
I
don't
know
if
I
could,
but
that
was
confusing,
I
would
say
an
option
beyond
voting
it
down
would
be
to
table
it
further.
I
really
was
looking
for
see
extending
the
time
of
working
on
this.
As
you
know,
it's
gone
on
a
very
long
time,
but
I
would
probably
prefer
tabling
it
in
committee
and
giving
a
full
cycle.
H
So
if
council,
member
ellison,
would
think
that
would
make
a
difference
beyond
you
know,
as
opposed
to
moving
forward
without
recommendation
saying,
we
don't
think
this
is
the
right
plan,
but
we're
sending
it
to
the
council
and
give
council
member
gordon
a
chance
to
see
if
he
could
come
up
with
a
better
plan
which
could
include
some
of
the
things
that
council
member
ellison
was
talking
about.
Maybe
the
district
is
too
large.
There
isn't
development
opportunities
that
he
would
like
to
see
or
we
could
see.
H
So
that
was
some
of
the
points
that
I
wanted
to
make
if
it
with
a
negative
recommendation
that
will
be
send
a
much
bigger
signal
to
everybody.
You
know
to
deny
this
and
turn
over
the
decision
of
our
hpc.
H
I
won't
be
supporting
that.
I
might
be
willing
to
support
the
tabling
of
it
and
I
would
certainly
support
moving
it
forward
again
without
recommendation,
and
I'd
also
appreciate,
since
you
mentioned
this
morning,
giving
folks
a
tour
over
there,
I
was
able
to
council
member
goodman
was
good
enough
to
come
over
and
look
at
over.
There
look
at
the
land.
Look
at
the
green
space.
Look
at
the
property
look
at
where
the
streets
are
look
at
that
building.
B
Okay,
I
guess.
E
I
think
I
first
I
I
think
that
one
cycle
I
would
want
to
see
something
really
comprehensive,
come
forward.
I
I
don't
think
one
delaying
this
one
cycle
would
is
is
my
intention,
but
I
did
want
to
just
sort
of
vocalize
my
openness
to
to
to
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish
here,
but
I
just
think
there
could
have
been
a
lot
more
due
diligence
done
within
the
year
that
I
had
between
now
and
when
I
got
briefed.
So
thank
you.
So
I
won't
be
changing
my
vote.
B
B
It
seems
to
me
as
though
there's
a
fear
about
what
would
potentially
be
redeveloped
if
the
site
isn't
designated
and
that's
what's
driving.
The
designation
is
not
necessarily
that
everyone
thinks
that
these
units
are
worthy
of
preserving,
but
that
public
housing
in
its
current
configuration
with
yards
and
community
gardens
and
stoop
front
stoops
two
stories.
B
It
is
a
missing
middle
piece
of
public
housing,
albeit
probably
a
very
expensive
piece
in
the
continuum
of
public
housing.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
either
high-rise
or
scattered
site,
and
so
I
think
that
there's
a
feeling
that
the
community
that's
been
created
here
by
virtue
of
the
layout
is
really
worthy
and
any
change
to
that
is
makes
people
afraid.
B
B
Everything
is
new.
I
mean
it's
crazy.
It's
along
the
green
line
and
the
site
is
surrounded
by
density.
So
it's
not
that
the
prospect
park
neighborhood
isn't
willing
to
take
density.
It's
just
that.
There
hasn't
been
really
affordable
density
in
this
location,
so
I
think
that
it's
worth
seeing
it
was
for
me.
B
I
do
think
it's
possible
to
get
to
a
win-win,
but
that
would
mean
that
council,
member
gordon,
would
have
to
agree
that
more
than
you
know,
all
of
the
townhomes
would
have
to
go
in
order
to
provide
for
additional
density
and
the
public
housing
authority
would
have
to
agree
that
some
of
the
hot
town
homes
would
stay
and
for
whatever
reason
they
haven't
gotten
to
a
consensus
on
that
over
time,
and
this
district
designation
is
hanging
over
everyone's
head
as
a
way
to
prevent
change,
rather
than
be
a
significant
historic
district,
designation
that
both
the
staff
and
the
planning
commission
rejected
and
the
even
the
hpc
didn't
vote
for
it
unanimously,
and
it's
very
infrequent
that
the
hpc
does
not
have
large
majorities.
B
So
I
am
certainly
willing
to
give
council
member
gordon
some
time
and
willing
to
participate
in
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
win-win
is.
B
But
I
feel,
like
there's
been
a
lot
of
anger
thrown
at
everyone
and
a
lot
of
unpleasant
assumptions
made
and
names
called
with
regard
to
this
by
the
correspondence
we've
received
in
the
community.
Everybody
is
trying
to
do
the
right
thing
and
the
right
thing
is
to
provide
for
deeply
affordable
units
to
have
more
of
them
without
any
displacement.
B
B
Maybe
there's
someone
else
on
the
committee
that
is
interested
in
working
with
council
member
gordon
to
try
to
figure
out
what
the
win-win
is.
I
see
that
councilman
bright
and
council
member
osman
rnq,
and
I
will
call
on
them
now-
go
ahead.
Council
member
right.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
concur
with
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
you
and
council
member
ellison
have
presented.
I
was
thinking
very
similarly
also
I'd
like
to
have
better
explanation
in
terms
of
historical
designation
as
it
means
to
ownership.
I
don't
think
there's
a
legal
parameter
to
say
that
this
has
to
be
once
designated
public
housing
at
all,
let
alone
affordable.
O
I'm
not
sure
that
that
level
of
historic
preservation
would
actually
be
a
surrogate
guarantee
for
those
outcomes,
not
to
say
that
that's
been
a
big
part
of
the
conversation,
but
it
seems
to
be
intimated
here
and
there
it's
a
it's
a
sort
of
a
pan,
protective
motion
that
I
don't
know
if
it
extends
that
far
also.
I
think
there
are
fiscal
parameters
that
need
to
be
further
investigated
when
historical
designations
are
thought
through
oftentimes.
O
It's
projected
what
are
some
of
the
benefits
financially
to
such
a
designation
and
what
sort
of
tax
credits
etc
would
be
associated.
I
don't
know
if
too
many
of
those
are
associated
with
local
designation.
Again
it'd
be
great
to
have
clarity
around
that.
So
we
don't
have
an
argument
of
unfunded
mandate
in
terms
of
a
very
fiscally
constrained,
high
deferred
maintenance
area.
O
Typically,
these
things
come
forward,
and
as
mentioned,
you
don't
have
the
luxury,
because
there's
an
eminent
project,
there's
reaction
to
that
project
and
then
there's
a
very,
very
constrained
conversation
conversational
space,
whereas
here
I
think
we
have
the
luxury
of
actually
going
through
the
different
competing
ideas
around
this
space
and
seeing
if
they
can
be
brought
together
in
a
consensus
forged
by
the
different
opinions,
debates,
different
design,
ideas
that
can
come
forward
and
find
that
win-win
or
the
compatible
reuse
that
have
historical
honorings
but
also
meet
some
of
the
other
needs
of
the
public
housing
authority
and
our
2040
plan.
D
Oh,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
I
do
not
think
a
customer
member
gordon
intention
was
to
stop
development
or
anything
like
that.
I
was
going
after
this
item,
which
could
result
loss
of
920
household
or
more
and
also
stopping
any
future
development,
and
I
would
like
you
know
that
now,
but
I
would
have
liked
to
hear
more
of
the
mpha
and
their
plan
and
how
could
this,
having
anything,
designated
historical
designation
on
this?
D
How
could
that
affect
them
right
now
on
the
future,
but
just
want
to
make
that
clear.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
councilmember
asman,
so
it
looks
like
we're,
probably
not
going
to
be
able
to
work
this
out
in
committee
today,
so
without
being
able
to
work
it
out
and
have
an
answer.
Perhaps
the
best
thing
to
do
would
be
to
table
this
and
keep
it
in
committee,
which
would
give
council
member
gordon
an
opportunity
to
work
with
mpha.
B
Now
that
hasn't
happened
up
until
now,
but
I
mean
the
questions
now
being
called
so
I
am
certainly
welcome
happy
to
help
participate
in
that.
I
believe
our
cped
director
is
as
well.
It's
either
that
or
it's
going
to
get
voted
down
so
I'll
turn
it
on
councilmember,
gordon
and
see.
If
you
I
would
support
tabling
it.
H
I
think
I
appreciate
this
conversation
and
it
really
helped
to
hear
from
all
of
you,
and
I
think
I'm
certainly
willing
to
sit
down
and
talk
and
take
you
up
in
your
offer
chair
and
bring
in
cpad
staff
curious
what
others
want
to
think
too.
So,
I'm
not
sure
if
one
cycle
makes
any
sense,
but
if
we
move
to
table
that's
indefinite
and
it
will
just
sit
on
the
agenda
for
a
while
and
we'll
be
reminded
it's
sitting
here,
so
we
won't
forget
about
it.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
councilmember
gordon
I'm
chuckling,
because
you
know
from
knowing
me
well
that
the
last
thing
I
like
is
to
have
postponed
items
indefinitely
on
my
agenda.
So,
as
you
know,
that
will
make
me
crazy,
which
will
be
an
ongoing
reminder
that
this
is
something
that
needs
to
get
resolved.
I
will
note
that
everyone,
a
negotiation,
mean
everyone
gives
a
lot.
B
Not
everyone
gives
a
little,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
and
it's
important
to
try
to
come
together.
That's
what
the
public
elected
us
to
do
is
to
try
to
come
to
a
consensus.
B
I
also
will
note
that
the
public
housing
authority
did
not
speak
in
this
meeting
and
probably
needs
to
have
a
conversation
with
council
member
gordon
and
I'm
happy
to
be
there
along
with
staff,
and
we
can
report
back
to
members
of
the
committee
where
we're
at
once
we've
met
so
council
member
gordon's
motion
is
to
table
it,
which
is
essentially
postponing
it
indefinitely
on
the
biz
agenda,
and
maybe
the
clerk
can
clarify
that.
That
is
what
would
be
happening
with
a
motion
to
table.
R
Chair
goodman,
with
with
a
motion
to
this,
would
essentially
be
a
motion
to
continue
the
item.
It
would
stay
on
the
agenda
indefinitely
until
until
the
committee
either
acts
on
it
or
postpones
it
to
a
a
date
certain.
Otherwise
it
will
continue
showing
up
on
on
this
committee's
agendas.
Until
action
is
taken.
B
Okay,
so
are
there
other
comments
or
questions
on
council
member
gordon's
motion
to
table
seeing
none?
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
please
call
the
role.
A
A
B
That
mo
that
item
has
been
tabled
and
definitely
on
our
agenda,
and
the
next
step
would
be
for
council
member
gordon
to
take
the
lead
in
pulling
together
the
public
housing
authority
as
well
as
others.
If
you're
on
the
committee
and
you're
interested
in
participating,
please
reach
out
to
council
member
gordon,
and
we
will
attempt
to
move
forward
in
that
way.
M
B
R
It
and
and
chair
goodman,
as
as
I
as
I
said
earlier,
the
the
clerk
will
take
the
intent
that
it
was
that
it
was
essentially
continued
to
the
next
meeting
and
will
stay
on
the
agenda
until
the
item
is
is
dealt
with,
as
I
suggested
earlier.
B
Okay,
because
I'm
I'm
trying
to
have
less
incendiary
words
used
so
suggesting
that
postponing
it
and
definitely
kills.
It
is
not
council,
member
gordon's
intent,
and
I
don't
want
it
coming
back
later,
that
that
was
anyone's
intent.
We
understand
that
we
need
to
take
it
up
and
I
believe
council,
member
gordon,
will
take
the
lead
on
that
for
further
comments
or
questions.
B
Yes,
it
was
a
motion
to
continue
by
the
way
not
postponed.
Okay.
Is
there
anything
anyone
else
would
like
to
add
seeing
no
further
business
before
us
and
without
objection.
I
will
declare
the
meeting
adjourned.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.