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B
Hello,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
regular
meeting
of
the
public
health
and
safety
committee
for
march
4th
2021..
My
name
is
philippe
cunningham
and
I
am
the
chair
of
this
committee.
As
we
begin,
I
will
note
for
the
record
that
this
meeting
has
remote
participation
by
members
of
the
minneapolis
city,
council
and
council
staff
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13d.02
due
to
the
declared
local
public
health
emergency.
B
The
city
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
to
the
city's
website
and
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
public
access
and
transparency.
This
meeting
is
public
and
subject
to
the
minnesota
open
meeting
law.
As
we
begin,
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role,
so
we
can
verify
a
quorum
for
this
meeting.
E
B
Thank
you
and
please
let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum.
I
know
that
council,
member
gordon,
will
be
joining
us
here
shortly
with
that
colleagues,
we
have
the
agenda
before
us
today
we
do
have
a
public
hearing
before
we
go
to
the
public
hearing,
though
I
would
like
to
first
have
us
discharge
the
consent
agenda,
which
we
have
items
number
two.
We
have
items
number
two
through
eight.
So
item
number
two
is
approving
a
council
appointment
of
anna
schmitz
to
the
minneapolis
workplace
advisory
committee.
B
Item
number:
two
is
accepting
a
grant
from
the
minnesota
department
of
health
in
the
amount
of
300
hundred
thousand
sixty
three
hundred
sixty
eight
thousand
six
hundred
twenty
one
dollars
to
work:
a
partnership
with
mdh
to
address
the
areas
of
public
health
responsibility
and
essential
public
health
services
to
be
used
for
cove
19
vaccination
implementation
item
number:
four:
is
accepting
a
grant
from
the
minnesota
water,
mississippi
watershed
management
organization,
the
amount
of
nineteen
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
to
hire
interns
to
assist
in
erosion
and
sediment
control
enforcement
item
number
five
is
contract
amendments
with
corcoran,
neighborhood
organization
and
central
area,
neighborhood
development
organization.
B
For
continued
violence,
interruption
services
item
number:
six
is
accepting
a
grant
from
the
minnesota
department
of
human
services,
dhs
washburn
center
for
children
in
the
amount
of
222
thousand
dollars
for
school-based
clinic
mental
health
services.
B
F
G
H
B
Those
items
carry
thank
you,
and
so
now
we
will
circle
back
to
item
number
one
which
is
a
public
hearing
related
to
the
passage
of
an
ordinance
amending
title,
2,
chapter
40
of
the
minneapolis
code
of
ordinances
relating
to
administration,
workplace
regulations,
adding
a
new
article,
7
entitled
hospit
hospitality
worker
right
to
recall
establishing
recall
rights
for
certain
employees.
B
I
Members
of
the
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
brian
walsh,
I'm
the
director
of
labor
standards
inside
of
our
civil
rights
department,
I'm
joined
today
by
andrea
neff
of
the
city
attorney's
office.
I
will
very
briefly
just
kind
of
set
some
of
the
context
and
background
and
then
turn
it
over
to
miss
neff
to
walk
through
the
specifics
of
the
ordinance
provisions
before
you
before.
We
then
pass
it
back
to
you
and
turn
and
turn
to
our
public
hearing
clerk.
If
you
could,
please
change
the
slide.
I
So
the
current
economic
situation
in
the
city
is
not
a
normal
recession,
in
the
sense
that
it
is
extremely
uneven
when
the
pandemic
first
hit
last
spring.
Different
industries
were
affected
very
differently.
I
So
in
part
due
to
the
industries
and
types
of
jobs
that
have
been
most
affected
by
shutdowns
and
slowdowns,
and
travel
and
hospitality
bypac,
especially
including
black
and
latino
workers
in
particular,
but
also
women
and
lower-wage
workers
have
suffered
many
more
job
losses
than
anyone
else
and
obviously
those
classifications.
Those
groups
are
not
mutually
exclusive.
I
I'll
run
through
a
couple
of
statistics
quickly.
Black
and
latino
workers
have
faced
one
to
one
point:
six
to
two
times
the
unemployment
rates
of
their
white
counterparts.
Households,
with
less
than
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
income,
have
faced
double
the
unemployment
rates
of
higher
income
households.
I
So
this
ordinance,
at
least
as
I
understand
it,
intends
to
follow
a
long
and
growing
list
of
other
cities
and
protecting
workers
who
are
most
vulnerable
to
disruptions
in
the
labor
market
and
giving
them
some
peace
of
mind
at
a
minimum.
They
should
know
that
the
city
is
paying
attention
to
their
stress
on
ease
and
current
economic
insecurity
and
taking
steps
to
provide
them.
Some
reassurance,
in
short,
the
the
ordinance
before
you
supports
the
idea
that
no
one
should
lose
their
job
permanently
because
of
kobit
19..
J
Yes,
I'm
here
good
afternoon,
chair
cunningham
and
council
members,
I
will
be
doing
just
a
short
overview
of
the
provisions
of
the
ordinance
that
are
before
you
right
now.
This
first
slide
outlines
the
two
kinds
of
covered
enterprises
that
would
be
affected
by
the
ordinance,
the
first
being
hotels
and
the
second
event.
Centers
hotels
would
be
affected
if
they
have
more
than
50.
J
Guest
rooms
are
located
in
the
city
and
the
definition
of
hotel
includes
premises
that
are
contracted,
leased
or
sublet
and
operated
in
conjunction
with
the
hotel,
for
example,
a
hotel
restaurant
as
to
event
centers.
The
ones
that
are
covered
are
those
that
are
offering
more
than
50
000
square
feet
of
rentable
space
or
2
000
fixed
seats
and
are
used
primarily
for
public
performances,
sporting
events,
conventions
or
similar
types
of
public
events.
J
J
J
Next
slide,
please,
oh!
Thank
you.
The
the
ordinance
also
sets
out
a
priority
system
for
which
employees
within
that
group
of
laid
off
employees
should
be
offered
jobs.
First,
the
employer
lawyer
would
then
offer
the
position
to
other
laid
off
employees
who
are
qualified
within
each
of
these
two
groups.
If
more
than
one
employee
is
entitled
to
the
offer,
the
employer
should
offer
the
position
to
the
laid
off
employee,
who
has
the
greatest
length
of
service
with
that
employer.
J
Employers
are
required
to
make
offers
to
these
employees
by
mail
and
then
also
by
email
and
text
message.
If
the
employer
has
that
information
available
any
employer
who
decides
not
to
offer
a
laid
off
employee,
a
position
on
the
grounds
that
the
employee
is
not
qualified
must
provide
a
notice
that
documents.
The
reason
for
that
decision
to
the
employee
and
employers
are
also
required
to
retain
records,
demonstrating
that
they've
complied
with
these
provisions
for
at
least
three
years.
J
The
ordinance,
of
course,
as
all
city
labor
standards,
ordinances,
do
prohibits
retaliation.
Very
specifically,
it
is
unlawful
for
any
employer
to
retaliate
against
any
of
their
employees
for
exercising
rights
under
this
ordinance,
and
as
we
take
this
very
seriously,
retaliation
can
result
in
damages
of
up
to
one
thousand
dollars
for
the
employee,
plus
the
fine
of
up
to
three
thousand
dollars.
J
This
ordinance
will
be
enforced
by
the
civil
rights
department.
Any
person
who
suspects
a
violation
can
report
a
violation
to
the
department
within
one
year
of
the
suspected
violation
occurring
and
the
process
set
out
in
the
ordinance
for
enforcement
is
similar
to
the
process
set
out
for
our
other
labor
standards.
Ordinances.
J
Okay,
employees,
who
demonstrate
that
they
have
been
wrongly
not
rehired
under
this
ordinance,
may
be
reinstated
and
or
recover
lost
wages
and
benefits.
Plus
penalties
and
the
city
also
can
impose
fines
upon
employers
that
do
not
comply.
J
Finally,
the
effective
date
of
this
ordinance
is
may
1st,
and
the
ordinance
will
continue
in
effect
until
one
year
after
the
termination
of
our
local
public
health
emergency
and
also
the
termination
of
the
state
of
minnesota
peacetime
emergency.
Whichever
occurs
later.
That
concludes
my
summary
of
the
ordinance
provision,
so
I
will
turn
it
back
over
to
brian.
I
Thank
you,
andrea,
chair,
cunningham,
andrea
neff,
and
I
are
available
for
questions
now
or,
of
course,
at
any
time,
and
I
think
we're
also
looking
forward
to
the
public
hearing.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
so
much
both
of
you
to
your
hard
work
as
well
as
this
presentation
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
folks
have
an
understanding
of
the
work
that
is
before
us
today.
Are
there
any
questions
or
comments
from
my
colleagues
related
to
the
presentation.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
not
specific
to
the
presentation
itself,
but
I
think
we
have
two
of
the
right
staff
to
help
us
answer
a
couple
of
questions.
I
want
to
point
out
that,
a
bit
ago,
our
council
implemented
a
requirement
of
for
ordinance
analyses
that
requires
a
fiscal
note
and
a
race
equity
impact
analysis.
K
I
want
to
point
out
it
it's
impressive
and
it
clearly
shows
the
need
that
this
has
a
race,
equity
impact,
and
so
I'm
open
and
and
in
general
you
know
feeling
supportive
of
this
having
not
yet
heard
the
public
hearing
today.
However,
I
want
to
point
you
to
the
fiscal
note
for
this.
K
It
specifically
states
this
new
ordinance
is
the
second
time
in
two
years
that
an
entirely
new
regulatory
responsibility
has
been
assigned
without
any
accompanying
financial
resources
to
the
labor
standards
enforcement
division
of
civil
rights,
which
is
a
work
group
of
four
ftes
enforcement
of
a
new
ordinance
affecting
thousands
of
employees,
can
be
accomplished
without
any
new
resources.
However,
its
efficacy
will
be
limited
and
it
will
require
shifting
resources
away
from
the
enforcement
of
things
like
our
city's
minimum
wage,
sick
and
safe
time,
freelance
worker
and
wage
theft
ordinances
during
a
pandemic.
K
So
I
want
to
just
point
out
to
my
colleagues
that
I'm
I'm
worried
about
the
ability
of
staff
to
enforce
this
new
ordinance
within
existing
capacity,
and
maybe
the
authors
have
a
proposal
for
that,
but
it
is.
It
does
seem
like
a
challenge
that
we
will
need
to
find
a
way
to
overcome.
So
thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
paul
masano.
Are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
before
we
open
the
public
hearing
all
right
with
that
one
moment
here
we
have
12
people
who
are
registered
for
our
public
hearing.
At
this
point,
I
will
open
up
the
public
hearing.
We
have
12
speakers
signed
up
to
speak
today
we
will
be
taking
speakers
in
the
order
they
are
registered.
B
Each
speaker
will
be
given
two
minutes
to
address
the
committee.
We
have
a
timer
set
up
to
help.
Speakers
monitor
the
use
of
their
time
and
you
will
hear
a
buzzer
when
your
time
is
up
when
you
are
called
on
to
speak.
Please
press
the
press
star
six
to
unmute
your
phone
and
wait
a
moment
for
the
recorded
message
that
says
that
you're
unmuted
before
you
begin
speaking
with
that
we
will
go
ahead
and
start
off
with
speaker
number
one
who
is
wade,
lundberg,
followed
by
steve
kramer,.
B
L
B
Thank
you.
So,
mr
lundberg,
if
you
were
there,
go
ahead
and
push
star
six
and
the
floor
is
yours
for
two
minutes.
M
Thank
you,
chair
cunningham
and
council
members.
My
name
is
wade
luneberg
political
director
of
unite
here,
local
17,
minnesota's,
hospitality
union.
We
represent
workers
in
the
twin
cities,
convention,
centers,
major
sports
facilities,
workers
at
msp,
international
and
concession
in
concessions
and
in
hotels
across
the
metro
and
rochester,
I'm
also
a
38-year
resident
of
minneapolis
living
in
the
downtown
third
ward.
M
Today
I
ask
you
to
consider
and
pass
this
important
piece
of
legislation
on
behalf
of
some
of
minneapolis's,
most
vulnerable
residents
and
workers
who
lost
their
livelihoods
through
no
fault
of
their
own.
During
the
scourge
of
covet
19.,
I
can
think
of
no
industry
of
workers.
That's
been
more
impacted
by
continued
joblessness
than
those
in
hospitality
since
the
onset
of
the
pandemic
and
that
those
job
losses
played
out
over
a
period
of
just
a
few
days
left
workers
dismayed
and
hopeless
one
in
ten
manapolitans
work
in
the
wide-ranging
sectors
of
hospitality.
M
Most
workers
in
this
part
of
the
industry
are
women
and
people
of
color
at
minnesota's,
largest
hotel,
69
percent
of
full-time
employees,
who
were
furloughed
in
2020
are
people
of
color.
Without
policy
action.
Workers
who
lost
their
jobs
through
no
fault
of
their
own
could
be
left
to
face
a
challenging
labor
market
already
rife
with
racial
disparities
and
research
shows
maintaining
established
employer.
Employee
relationships
is
critical
to
the
speed
of
the
economic
recovery.
B
Thank
you,
mr
lunenburg.
I
would
recommend
for
you
to
please
submit
the
rest
of
your
comments
to
councilcomment
at
minneapolismn.gov,
so
that
we
are
able
to
have
your
full
testimony
on
the
record.
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
your
work.
Next
up,
we
have
steve
kramer,
followed
by
tamara
huston,
mr
kramer.
If
you're
there
please
push
star
six.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
committee.
I
think
you
will
hear,
or
have
heard
from
others
about
some
of
the
specific
challenges
associated
with
the
ordinance
I'd
like
to
make
two
more
general
points
that
you've
heard
me
make
before
about
other
council
initiatives
in
recent
years,
but
I'll
make
them
again,
because
individuals
and
companies
investing
in
the
city
and
creating
jobs
through
business
activity,
believe
these
points
to
be
true
and
important
for
you
as
policy
makers,
to
consider
in
your
deliberations.
G
G
We
are
an
important
part,
but
not
the
only
part
of
an
integrated
regional
economy
and
continuing
to
burden
business
activity
only
in
minneapolis
with
requirements
and
costs
competitors
across
our
boundaries
don't
face
is
detrimental
to
economic
growth.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
comment
today.
B
Thank
you,
mr
kramer.
Next
up
we
have
speaker
number
three
tamara
huston,
followed
by
cindy
morris
tamara.
If
you're
on
the
line,
please
push
star
six.
N
O
P
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
council
members.
For
listening
to
all
of
us.
I
worked
at
the
delta
hotel
by
marriott
for
five
years
and
in
my
last
meeting
that
I
was
involved
in
one
of
the
league
representatives
asked
the
question:
what
why
would
employers
not
recall
experienced
workers
rather
than
to
hire
new
people
that
aren't
experienced?
P
One
of
the
answers
to
that
question
is
vacation
time
that
people
have
earned
a
lot
of
people
where
I
worked
had
four
weeks
of
vacation.
If
you
hire
a
new
person,
you
don't
have
to
pay
that
so
that
cuts
out
a
lot
of
us
have
worked
hard
and
long
to
earn
the
benefits
that
we
have.
We
have
lost
our
insurance,
we
would
lose
our
our
weak
benefit.
P
B
B
All
right,
I'm
not
hearing
cindy
next
up,
then
we
will
move
on
to
maria
chinos
bonfill,
followed
by
kathy
bober
maria.
If
you
were
there,
please
push
star
six.
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
julio.
Perez
espinoza
and
maria
chinos
is
a
member
of
our
union,
and
she
asked
me
to
link
her
statement.
If
it's,
okay
with
you.
Q
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
council
members
on
behalf
of
maria
chino's
volunteer.
She
says
this.
I've
been
working
at
the
marquette
hotel
for
over
eight
years
in
the
housekeeping
department.
I
really
like
my
job.
I
take
care
of
guests,
I'm
getting
a
living
wage,
an
excellent
health
insurance
plus
my
retirement
plan.
Q
Q
Q
B
Thank
you
for
for
reading
her
statement.
Please
do
submit
the
rest
of
that
to
council
comment
at
minneapolismn.gov.
It
would
be
great
to
have
the
full
statement
on
the
record.
Thank
you
so
much
next
up
we
have
kathy
bober,
followed
by
jorge
chi
soup.
I
apologize
super
celia
so
kathy.
If
you're
there
please
push
star.
B
R
Thank
you,
chair,
cunningham
and
city
council
members
good
afternoon
to
everyone
participating.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
today.
My
name
is
kathy
bover.
I
have
worked
at
the
crowne
plaza
north
star
as
a
server
and
have
been
31
years.
As
a
union
member,
I
have
worked
there
for
27
years.
My
job
was
to
serve
food
in
the
cafe
north
star,
which
I
have
made,
which
I
do
help
make
guests
that
come
there
have
a
nice
day
and
stay
in
the
city
of
minneapolis.
R
I
have
missed
many
guests
at
the
cafe
and
the
hotel,
like
vikings
fans,
gopher
fans
and
many
sports
teams
and
as
well
as
concert
events,
my
hotel
has
been
closed
since
the
epidemic
started.
I
haven't
worked
since
it
has
been
long.
I
would
like
to
get
back
to
my
job,
but
I
don't
know
when
that
is.
I
can
tell
you.
I
really
miss
my
health
benefits
seniority
along
with
vacation
pay.
R
Yes,
we
are
getting
unemployment
benefits,
but
does
not
pay
enough
to
for
all
of
us
who
work
in
the
hotel
sustain
our
selves
and
pay
for
work
for
food,
rent
and
other
bills.
We
need
to
all
get
back
to
work
and
we
have
our
jobs
back,
miss
our
co-workers
and
guests
that
have
stayed
in
the
hotels
emotionally.
It
has
been
rough
on
me
having
lost
my
job
that
I've
had
for
27
years
at
this
hotel.
R
B
S
T
I
work
in
the
corinal
department
for
emma
and
I
cook
and
prepare
for
our
guests
and
employees,
and
since
I
got
your
friend
because
of
the
pandemic-
and
you
know
it's
helpful
for
me
to
to
pay
my
bills
and
and
plus
I
mean
work
in
the
I
mean
I
use
my
co-workers
and
I
don't
know
what's
going
to
happen
in
the
future,
because
I
know
I'm
getting
an
employment
but
like
it's
like
everybody
said
it's
not
enough
and
that
and
I
have
bills
to
pay
and
and
and
I
lose
my
insurance
and
and
I've
been
applying
other
places.
T
But
I
haven't
yet.
I
haven't
get
yeah,
so
they
haven't
called
me,
but
they
hired
me
so.
T
B
U
Hi
there
my
name
is
adam
schreifels.
Thank
you,
council
members
for
hearing
us.
Today.
I've
been
involved
in
hospitality
for
over
20
years
in
the
minneapolis
metro
area
and
prior
to
the
pandemic.
I
was
working
at
all
of
the
major
sports
stadiums,
the
hilton
the
high
at
the
marriott,
the
convention
center
and
the
doubletree
in
bloomington
and
intercontinental
and
saint
paul.
So
all
of
my
income
went
away,
went
like
so
many
others
in
this
industry
win
the
pandemic
hit,
and
I
have
to
be
honest.
U
I
wasn't
even
aware
that
I
wouldn't
have
a
job
to
go
back
to
with
some
of
these
union
jobs
that
I
have
and
when
I
was
told
that
by
my
my
union
rep,
I
was
absolutely
floored
and
it
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me
why
they
wouldn't
why
we
wouldn't
have
the
right
to
go
back,
especially
with
union
jobs,
because
we
worked
so
hard
to
for
the
rights
that
we
do
have
and
the
good
paying
jobs
that
we
did,
that
we
that
we
had
and
and
for
employers
to
have
the
ability
to
just
get
rid
of
experienced
people
or
more
than
likely.
U
So
they
could
pay
other
people
less
money.
It
just
doesn't
seem
right
to
me
and
I
I
don't
think
I
think
it'll
have
a
serious
impact
on
the
community.
Like
so
many
others,
and
I
believe
wade
was
talking
about
a
lot
of
people
of
color.
Women
are
employed
in
this
industry,
so
it
would
have
a
negative
impact.
U
I
know
for
myself
I've
taken
about
a
25
hit
on
my
income
monthly,
so
I
mean,
thankfully,
with
unemployment
and
it's
the
expanded
unemployment.
I've
been
able
to.
You
know,
pay
my
bills
and
such,
but
you
know
it
has
taken
a
financial
impact.
U
B
Thank
you
adam
next
up
we
have
jamelle
thomas,
followed
by
claudia
sandoval
mendoza
jamal.
If
you
are
there,
please
push
star
six
wait
a
moment
for
the
recording
and
then
the
floor
is
yours.
B
O
Six
hello,
my
name
is
claudia
sandoval.
Can
you
guys
hear
me.
O
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
chairman.
I'm
student
council
just
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
letting
me
speak.
We
are
coming
to
a
year
since
the
spedemic
hit
with
all
the
restaurants
and
hotels,
making
us
close
and
left
us
with
unknown.
We
will,
when
we'll
be
back
to
work.
O
O
Most
of
us
haven't,
haven't
been
able
to
catch
up,
we
so
depend
on
inc
and
our
income.
It's
been
the
worst
and
the
hardest
times
for
myself
and
for
many
others
who
have
not
been
able
to
go
back
to
work.
This
whole
year
has
been
hard
enough
and
unknown.
When
we'll
go
back
to
our
jobs.
I
work
at
delta
by
mariette
as
a
banquet
cook
for
many
years.
I
love
my
job
and
unemployment
is
just
not
enough
to
support
my
family.
O
We
need
to
get
our
jobs
back.
We
lost
due
to
epidemic.
It
was
a
mandatory
for
us
to
leave
and
stay
home
to
keep
up
safe
and
to
keep
everyone
safe.
We
have
the
right
to
go
back
to
our
previous
job
and
pick
up
where
we
left
off
city
campus
members.
I'm
asking
you
to
support
the
recalls
arguments
once
we're
back
to
work
with
their
senior
rights,
we
can
have
a
better
and
stronger
city.
Minneapolis
needs
a
vibrant
and
strong
academy.
Please
vote!
Yes,
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
so
much
claudia.
I
do
see.
I
believe
that
we
have
jamel
thomas
online
on
on
the
call.
If
you're
there
please
push
star
six.
P
O
N
F
Since
2004.
I've
been
laid
off
since
march
17
2020
because
of
the
pandemic,
and
I
love
working
at
the
marquette
hotel,
I
started
out
as
a
dishwasher.
Then
I
became
a
pantry
cook.
Then
I
started
broilers,
sauteed
fries.
I
learned
how
to
do
it
all
in
the
kitchen.
I
was
cooking
for
banquets
and
room
service
and
rest.
F
The
restaurant
and
all
of
our
co-workers
was
like
family
there,
and
you
know
the
thing
about
this
pandemic
that
when
it
happened,
is
kind
of
shift
everybody
and
rock
the
whole
world,
and
I
was
hoping
my
main
concern-
is
that
we
get
back
to
our
job
and
be
able
to
hold
our
own
position
to
instead
of
new
people
coming
in
and
taking
over,
and
you
know
it's
really
stressful
out
here-
we're
losing
money,
I'm
spending
all
my
savings
up
and
and
then
my
medical
was
cut
off
and
I'm
using
my
my
savings
on
my
medicals
and
things
like
that.
F
B
B
B
Right,
I'm
not
hearing
jeff,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
rosalind
goldberg
rosalind.
If
you
were
there,
please
push
star
six.
B
B
V
Welcome,
okay,
okay,
so
my
name
is
rosalyn
goldberg
and
I've
worked
as
a
banquet
bartender
at
the
radisson
blue
for
34
years,
which
is
half
my
life.
I
actually
started
there
before
it
opened.
Officially.
I've
also
helped
out
in
many
other
departments.
For
years
I
worked
when
I
was
on
chemo
and
I'm
always
available
when
the
schedule
changes,
which
is
always
there
are
many
other
employees
that
are
also
lifers
with
20
and
30
years
of
service,
even
just
at
this
one
hotel.
V
So
it
is
a
no-brainer
to
recall
these
loyal
and
dedicated
employees
they've,
given
a
lot
of
years
to
this
hotel.
Furthermore,
we
should
be
recalled
with
the
same
seniority
and
pay,
because
we
paid
our
dues
now
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
am
totally
okay
with
the
hospitality
industry
playing
it
safe
during
this
pandemic,
but
when
things
open
up
the
employees
who
have
spent
half
their
lives
at
this
hotel
and
in
this
industry
should
be
the
first
to
be
recalled.
B
Thank
you
rosalind,
we'll
now
circle
back
to
jeff
jeff,
welcome.
W
So
my
name
is
jeff
barnhart
and
we
have
a
family
owned,
hampton
inn,
suites
in
southeast
minneapolis
and
I'm
the
manager-
and
I
think
we
all
know
both
employees
and
employers
how
devastating
this
has
been,
and
I
think
you
know,
as
somebody
said
it
earlier,
we
we
all
want
our
employees
back.
W
We
we,
as
managers,
have
not
been
able
to
figure
out
where
occupancy
levels
are
at
and
I
think
you
know
jobs
will
come
when
the
demand
comes
and
the
demand
will
come
when
we
open
up
again
and
one
of
the
problems
that
we're
having
is
because
we
can't
anticipate
when
occupancy
is
going
to
come.
We
we,
we
are
always
scrambling
to
get
the
help
we
need
when
we
need
the
help
based
on
you
know
when
occupancy
changes,
and
so
the
first
people
we
have
been
calling
is
our
employees
back.
W
But
I
feel
like
some
of
the
language
in
the
ordinance
could
be
restrictive
when
we're
trying
to
to
hire
people
back
and
potentially
it
could
be
13
days
from
when
the
employer
sends
out
the
notice
and
when
the
employee,
you
know
on
day
six
they
respond
and
then
seven
days
for
them
to
come
back,
and
I
guess
you
know
it's
tragic-
to
hear
some
of
the
testimonies
on
this
phone,
and
I
I
think,
as
you
know,
somebody
who
would
be
hiring
people
back
would
be
nice
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
the
labor
back
as
quickly
as
possible
and
that
people
like
I'm
hearing
on
the
phone
who
want
to
work
could
have
a
position
to
work.
W
You
know
for
us,
or
somebody
else
is
looking
for
that
labor.
So
the
other
thing
I
just
want
to
say
is
that
you
know
I
don't
feel
like
we've
gotten
much
help
from
the
city
and
we
talked
about
the
previous
recession.
This
one
is
different
and
I
hope
that
everybody
hires
back.
You
know
when
the
market
comes
back,
but
the
civil
rights
needs
funding.
You
know,
there's
there's
more
burden
burden
on
the
owners
here
and
I
wish
I
had
more
than
two
minutes.
W
B
Mr
barnhart,
I
do
recommend
for
you
to
submit
your
comments
to
counsel
comment
at
minneapolismn.gov,
because
we
definitely
would
like
to
make
sure
that
your
perspective
and
experience
is
on
the
record.
So
I
do
highly
recommend
for
you
to
submit
it
again.
It's
council
comment
at
minneapolismn.gov.
B
Six,
all
right,
so
I'm
not
hearing
her
so
not
seeing
any
additional
speakers.
I
will
just
check
one
last
time
to
see
if
there
are
any
more
speakers
on
the
line,
all
right,
seeing
none
I'll
now
close
today's
public
hearing
council
member
fletcher.
Would
you
like
to
go
ahead
and
make
the.
X
Motion
would
joe
cunningham
thank
you,
so
I
will
move
approval
of
this
ordinance
and
I
want
to
take
the
opportunity,
if
I
may,
to
to
thank
a
few
people
and
to
respond
to
a
little
bit
of
what
we
heard
so
first.
I
want
to
just
really
acknowledge
the
work
of
our
city
staff,
who
have
worked
on
this.
X
We
consulted
along
the
way
with
eric,
hanson
and
cped,
andrea
neff
in
the
city,
attorney's
office
and
brian
walsh,
and
and
many
people
in
the
civil
rights
department
and
really
wanna
recognize
the
civil
rights
department's.
You
know
commitment
to
this
work
into
this
premise
and
recognize
that
they
are
stretched
a
little
bit
and
that
they've
really
enthusiastically
embraced
moving
forward
with
this,
seeing
the
need
and
to
council
member
paulisano's
point,
which
is
absolutely
correct.
X
I
think
we
should
be
thinking
about
the
capacity
that
we
have
to
do
enforcement.
The
good
news
is
the
team
that
is
currently
a
four-person
team
has
had
a
position
that
was
held
up
by
the
hiring
freeze
that
director
corbell
never
requested
the
waiver,
but
they
have
now
gotten
approval
to
make
that
higher
and
they're
in
the
hiring
process.
So
this
is
gonna
come
online
right
at
a
time
that
they're
seeing
a
20
increase
in
capacity.
X
X
But
I
do
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
they
are
able
to
expand
from
a
four-person
team
to
a
five-person
team,
and
hopefully
that
will
cushion
the
additional
workload
that
comes
with
this,
and
hopefully
there
will
be
very
limited
additional
workload.
X
That
comes
with
this,
because
I
think,
as
we
heard
from
mr
barnhart,
who
just
testified
and
as
I've
heard
from
many
of
the
employers
I've
spoken
to
about
this,
most
employers
are
planning
to
hire
back
their
workers
that,
in
a
vast
majority
of
the
cases,
the
thing
that
people
are
more
worried
about
is
that
too
many
of
their
workers
who
they
haven't
seen
in
a
year,
will
have
moved
on
and
they'll
have
a
recruiting
challenge
ahead
of
them.
So
they're
more
worried
about
having
lost
people
than
about
hiring
people
back.
X
There
are
places
where
this
will
provide
some
security
for
workers
and
there
are
places
where
this
will
protect
people's
jobs,
and
so
it
is
worth
passing.
But
I
also
want
to
note
that
the
majority
of
employers
are
very
committed
to
their
workers,
just
as
the
majority
of
workers
are
very
committed
to
the
success
of
their
employers
and
that
we
really
are
all
in
this
together
in
the
recovery
of
this
economy.
X
I
think
we
heard
in
the
stories
from
workers
today
that
people
are
facing
real
challenges
and
people
are
facing
real
kind
of
compounding
challenges
of
issues
with
health
issues
in
the
economy
and
we're
not
solving
all
of
that
with
this,
but
we
are
providing
people
with
a
little
bit
of
security
and
stability.
That,
I
hope,
is
a
comfort,
as
everybody
waits
for
these
industries
to
reopen
and
I'm
enthusiastic
to
be
able
to
offer
this.
I'm
really
grateful
to
the
worker
advocates
who
brought
this
forward,
especially
to
unite
here.
X
Who's,
been
very
active
in
working
on
this
issue
and
really
want
to
thank
everybody.
Who's
engaged
with
this
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
this
become
law,
and
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
everybody
get
back
to
work.
B
B
D
F
F
B
B
There
that
item
carries
thank
you,
everyone
and
thank
you
to
everyone
for
taking
the
time
to
make
your
voice
heard
in
today's
public
hearing.
So
now
we
will
circle
back
to
consent
agenda.
What
was
previously
on
the
consent.
Agenda-
item
number
eight,
so
with
ida
with
this
item,
that
is
the
transforming
community
or
public
safety
charter
amendment.
I
will
note
that
we
held
a
public
hearing
on
the
amendments
to
both
articles
at
our
last
meeting,
but
article
7
was
held
over
in
committee.
B
While
the
amendment
to
article
8
was
properly
noticed,
introduced
and
referred
to
this
committee,
I
will
move
approval
of
this
item
along
with
a
direction
to
the
clerk's
office,
to
consolidate
these
two
ordinances
into
a
single
ordinance
for
consideration
at
the
next
meeting
of
the
city
council
on
march
12th.
I
will
also
note
that
the
draft
version
of
this
consolidated
ordinance
has
been
posted
in
limbs
for
public
access.
B
With
that
I
do
so.
I
have
made
that
motion
and
I
see
council
member
paul
masano
in
q.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
pull
this
off
the
consent
agenda.
We've
been
talking
at
a
really
high
level
about
this,
so
as
it
moves
forward,
I
feel
like
we
owe
the
residents
of
minneapolis
more
clarity
about
what
this
proposal
does,
and
I
have
a
few
questions
in
that
regard.
K
It's
been
my
experience
that
when
we
promise
an
engagement
process
and
then
we
get
ahead
of
ourselves,
I'm
making
policies
or
presenting
a
work
product
like
this
before
the
engagement
is
done
that
elicits
a
sense
of
promise
and
then
broken
trust
from
people
in
minneapolis
and
I'm
curious
for
the
authors
or
anybody
that
wants
to
support
this
proposal
today.
How
our
commitment
to
a
full
year
of
public
engagement
around
public
safety
is
honored
here
when
that
work
is
still
in
progress.
Doesn't
this
set
the
governance
question
in
stone,
as
you
have
it
outlined
here,.
B
Thank
you
for
the
question.
I
will
take
a
a
brief
moment
to
address
it
and
I
also
see
councilmember
fletcher's
in
queue,
so
he
probably
wants
to
respond
to
that
as
well.
You
know
actually
I'll
go
ahead
and
let
councilmember
fletcher
speak
first,
go
ahead
and
council
member.
X
Thank
you,
chuck
cunningham
and
thank
you
council,
member
palmisano,
for
the
question.
I
know
this
is
something
that
not
everybody
has
the
same
read
on,
and
I
think
that
we,
you
know,
we
we've
heard
a
phrase
bandied
about
quite
a
lot
from
motivational
books
about
the
speed
of
trust,
and
I
think
often,
that
phrase
has
been
used
to
suggest
that
we
need
to
slow
down
to
make
sure
that
we've
done
our
engagement.
X
But
I
want
to
point
out
that,
in
my
experience-
and
I
think
one
of
the
tensions
that
we
have
is
that
we
also
lose
trust
when
we
fail
to
act,
that
we
also
lose
trust
when
people
are
calling
for
action
and
calling
for
change,
and
then
we
allow
the
process
to
delay
so
far.
That
changes
take
years
or
entire
council
terms
to
enact,
and
I
think
it's
very
important
that
we
show
people
that
we're
following
through
and
what
I
like
about
passing
the
charter.
X
X
I
would
predict
that
this
department
on
day
one
is
going
to
look
an
awful
lot
like
a
police
department
and
the
office
of
violence
prevention,
as
as
both
as
they
currently
exist,
but
reporting
to
a
new
commissioner,
and
that
does
not
feel
like
a
such
a
significant
change
if
that's
functionally
how
the
city
is
operating
on
day,
one
that
that
we
would
be
betraying
some
trust
in
an
engagement
process.
In
the
meantime,
we
have
the
opportunity
to
engage
on
what
the
underlying
ordinance
is
going
to
look
like.
X
That
really
is
more
prescriptive,
and
that
really
will
start
to
tell
us
what
this
looks
like,
and
we
have
a
lot
longer
to
do
that
than
we
had
to
initiate
the
charter
commission
process,
and
so
I
think
it
would
have
been.
I
can
see
where
some
people
feel
rushed.
X
I
can
see
where
some
people
wonder
if
it
would
have
been
nicer
to
take
a
little
longer,
but
I
can
also
see
where
some
people
would
feel
very
let
down
if
we
continue
on
the
engagement
path
that
we're
on
and
the
work
that
the
office
of
violence
prevention
has
already
started
on
community
engagement
and
then
we
get
to
the
end
of
that
process
and
say
that's
great.
X
We've
got
some
good
ideas
here,
but
now
the
charter
won't
allow
any
of
these
changes
and
we
need
to
wait
another
year
until
we've
done
a
charter
change
in
2022
or
2023
or
whenever
we
get
around
to
it.
And
so
for
me,
I
think,
there's
a
betrayal
of
trust
and
delay,
often
as
much
as
there
is
a
betrayal
of
community
trust
in
moving
too
quickly,
and
we
have
to
balance
those
things.
X
I
think
we're
getting
it
right,
which
is
why
I'm
co-authoring
this
and
moving
it
forward
in
in
striking
that
balance
in
what
I'm
hearing
from,
admittedly,
a
mix
of
constituents,
some
of
whom
would
like
us
to
slow
down
and
some
of
whom
would
are
impatient
and
can't
believe
we
haven't
done
more.
Already-
and
I
I
think,
we're
striking
the
right
balance
moving
forward
thoughtfully,
moving
forward
with
the
broad
framework,
so
that
then
we
can
get
down
to
the
work
and
actually
implement
it.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
fletcher,
yes,
my
my
response
is
to
that
question
is
also
essentially
along
the
lines
of
we
are
hearing
feedback
in
the
process
as
we
are
moving
through
this
community
engagement
as
we
have
been
in
conversation-
and
it
is
not
a
matter
of
as
of
june
9th-
I'm
not
sure
what
day
marks
a
year,
then
suddenly
that's
when
we
are
able
to
make
decisions.
B
It
is
an
iterative
process
in
which
we
are
having
conversation,
getting
feedback,
adapting
having
conversation,
putting
work
out
there
getting
feedback,
it's
an
iterative
process
and-
and
that
is
how
we
get
a
better
result,
is
by
being
in
continuous
conversation
as
to
council
member
fletcher's
point:
this
is
pretty
bare
bones.
The
the
charter
amendment
is.
There
is
a
lot
of
space
for
work
to
be
dug
into
around
how
what
are
the
opera?
How
does
the
actual
department
operate?
B
What
are
the
various
divisions
that
get
moved
from
current
that
currently
exist
in
other
departments
that
would
live
in
this
new
department
what's
missing
and
what
what
new
divisions
need
to
be
created?
What
is
the
hierarchy
in
the
staffing
infrastructure
within
that?
All
of
that
goes
in
ordinance,
and
so
you
know
we
that
that
ordinance
process
we
have
the
ability
to
put
a
co-creation
process
in
place
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
that
is
our
intention
to
do
so.
B
You
know,
I
will
just
say
that
you
know
dr
king
did
a
lot
of
talking
about
the
request
to
slow
down
and
what
that
means
to
people
who
are
oppressed,
and
so
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
very
careful
around
the
idea
of
slowing
down
slowing
down
slowing
down,
particularly
when
there
has
been
a
lot
of
engagement.
Thus
far,
we've
been
in
conversation
and
we
are
continuing
to
be
in
conversation
by
the
time
this
goes
in
before
voters.
B
We
will
have
been
months
past
that
one
year
commitment,
so
I
mean
it's
obvious
that
we
are
still
going
to
be
engaging
and
really
the
residents
of
the
city
have
the
ultimate
final
say
in
in
what
is
the
future
of
the
structure
of
our
public
safety
system
here
in
our
city
and
the
year-long
commitment
does
not
actually
end
after
a
year
and
if
we
are
going
to
get
public
safety
right,
we
have
to
continue
to
remain
in
conversation,
council
member,
paul
masano,
followed
by
council
member
allison.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
you
know
from
my
perspective,
this
is
roughly
the
the
guts
of
the
charter.
Amendment
itself
is
roughly
the
same
proposal
as
last
year,
and
unfortunately,
this
takes
a
lot
of
energy
away
from
all
the
things
we
could
be
working
on
right
now
with
the
community.
K
It
feels
a
bit
like
a
false
narrative
in
what
we're
selling
about
what
this
is
and
what
this
isn't
and
I'm
curious,
because
I've
been
asked
many
times.
Where
did
the
graphic
portraying
this
new
department
is
as
a
tree
come
from?
I've
heard
authors
refer
to
it
as
they
talk
about
this
move
and
was
it
designed
by
city
staff.
B
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up,
so
that
actually
came
from
me
and
the
reason
why
that
is
the
way
that
it
is
is
because
it
is
proposed
showing
what
it
could
be.
So
what
it
could
be
is
including
all
of
those
different
divisions
as
an
example.
So
that's
what
it
is.
It
shows
what
is
possible.
It
is
possible
for
us
to
be
able
to
do
multiple
things.
B
There
is
no
false
narrative
here,
we're
talking
about
replicating,
essentially
what
the
state
has
for
its
department
of
public
safety,
so
that
we
can
have
a
similar
governing
structure
in
a
way
that
puts
policing
at
an
on
an
equal
footing,
as
the
other
particular
approaches
to
public
safety
that
we
have
in
our
city.
It
is
also
possible
for
us
to
do
other
bodies
of
work
at
the
same
time
as
this
charter
amendment
moves
through
the
process
which
we
have
been,
we
have
continued
to
expand
violence,
prevention
efforts.
We
have
operationalized
new
violence
prevention
efforts.
B
We
have.
We
are
in
the
process
of
beginning
a
mobile
mental
health
crisis
response.
The
rfp
was
just
released,
in
fact
we're
going
to
hear
more
about
it
later.
Today,
so
the
idea
that
we
have
not
actually
been
doing
any
other
work
or
that
this
is
taking
away
from
the
ability
to
do
other
work.
That
is
not
true,
and
this
is
also
not
the
same
proposal
as
it
was
last
year.
This
is
more
comprehensive.
B
This
requires
a
division
of
law
enforcement
services.
It
there
are
other
aspects
of
it
that
are
different.
I
don't
necessarily.
B
We
have
many
people
waiting
to
give
a
presentation,
so
I
won't
go
down
line
by
line
how
this
is
different,
but
it
is
different
and
it
was
because
we
took
the
feedback.
The
authors,
I
was
not
a
co-author
last
time
around
council
members
trader,
we
were
not
co-authors.
We
took
the
feedback
that
we've
heard
from
our
constituents
as
well
as
more
broadly
the
city
and
have
incorporated
that
feedback.
B
So
this
is
not
the
same,
and
I
very
strongly
push
back
on
any
idea
that
this
is
a
false
narrative
of
some
sort.
The
graphic
is
what
is
possible
once
we
operationalize
the
ordinance.
That
is
what
it's
meant
to
help
folks
understand
is
visually.
What
is
possible
with
this
new
system?
S
Thank
you,
mr
chair
I'll.
Keep
it
short,
I
feel,
like
you
and
councilmember
fletcher
really
covered
all
the
points
that
I
was
hoping
to
cover,
but
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
you
know
it
is
definitely
an
impulse
of
an
institution
like
the
city
to
you
know
give
in
to
what
I
call
the
cult
of
pragmatism,
which
is
not
real
pragmatism,
but
it
feels
like
pragmatism
and
I'd,
say
the
three
tenets
of
of
of
this
really
has
to
do
with
ask
for
less.
S
Do
it
slower
and
eventually
don't
do
it
at
all,
and
when
I
call
and
when
I
hear
sort
of
this
call
for
us
to
slow
down
or
for
us
to,
you
know
that
we
haven't
done
enough
outreach.
I
re
especially
when
we're
talking
about
a
proposal
that
will
go
directly
into
the
hands
of
voters,
a
proposal
that
will
go
directly
into
the
hands
of
voters.
I
just
want
that
to
be
said
again
really.
What
you're
hearing
is
those
tenants
at
work?
S
Do
less
ask
for
less,
do
it
slower
and
eventually
don't
do
it
at
all,
and
I
think
that
again
you
know
some
of
us
have
been
living
with
in
our
communities
the
type
of
violence
that
we've
seen
the
past
year
for
for
much
longer
than
just
one
year,
and
some
of
us
have
been
living
with
the
failures
of
of
the
police
department
as
it
currently
exists
in
our
wards
for
for
many
many
years
prior
to
just
this
past
year,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
urgency.
S
I
think
to
move
forward
and
as
councilmember
fletcher
said,
if
we
do
a
year
of
engagement
which
we've
already
begun
and
we
ca,
and
then
we
have
to
take
another
another
year,
two
years
three
years
to
then
have
this
fight,
and
we
know
the
entire
time
it'll
be
there's
not
enough
of
this
there's
not
enough
of
that
again.
We
are
executing
those
three
tenets
of
ask
for
less
to
do
with
slower
and
eventually
don't
do
it
at
all.
S
S
I
agree
that
it
is
not
the
same
proposal
and
I
was
one
of
the
authors
of
of
the
last
proposal
and
and
I
think
that
what
the
team
has
done
this
year
is
really
carry
over
that
work
from
last
year
and
and
we
we
got
a
ton
of
engagement.
You
know
nobody
can
say
whether
this
is
gonna
pass
on
the
ballot.
S
That's
why
we're
proposing
that
it
be
put
there,
but
but
but
I
think
we
got
so
much
engagement
last
year
that
it
is
obvious
and
evident
that
there's
a
huge
appetite
for
this
to
at
least
be
on
the
ballot
for
people
to
discuss,
to
take
the
the
rest
of
the
year
to
discuss
and
then
eventually
vote
on,
and
so
you
know,
I'm
not
a
proponent
of
of
any
of
this
kind
of
smoke
and
mirrors.
That
says
you
know.
S
Oh,
I've
got
a
legitimate
concern
when,
when
really
there's
no
legitimate
concern,
there's
just
disagreement
on
the
principal
issue.
S
Some
of
us
have
accepted
situations
like
jamar
clark
and
george
floyd
as
the
cost
of
doing
business
when
it
comes
to
public
safety,
and
some
of
us
have
not,
and
so
I
think
that
we
can
all
just
accept
that
we
sometimes
agree
on
the
principal
issue
and
not
hide
behind
you
know,
maybe
bureaucratic.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
think
that
this
is
actually
kind
of
the
epitome
of
a
bureaucratic
issue.
One
of
the
answers
that
I
heard
was
that
will
in
the
state
there's
a
commissioner
of
public
safety,
but
the
difference
here
remains
that
in
our
state,
today,
chief
harrington
reports
to
the
governor,
not
to
the
state
legislature,
there's
a
number
of
bold
claims
here
that
aren't
achieved
by
a
vote
on
this
and
essentially
from
my
own
perspective,
and
I
understand
it's
different
than
yours,
but
creates
more
bureaucracy.
K
I've
heard
one
of
the
authors
mention
that
this
proposal
would
improve
how
we
handle
discipline
within
the
department.
Can
you
explain
how
this
proposal
bypasses
the
hurdles
we
face
through
the
union
contract
and
arbitration
laws
at
the
state
level?
I
don't
think
you
can.
We
all
want
more
accountability.
K
The
authors
of
this
proposal
claim
that
these
changes
to
the
charter
increase
transparency
and
accountability,
and
I'm
just
really
curious
where,
in
this
proposal,
you
would
point
to
that
leads
to
these
outcomes.
How
would
city
council
collectively
be
able
to
enact
reform
with
an
mpd
more
effectively
than
the
current
structure.
K
No,
how
would
this
I,
this
is
a
question
for
the
authors,
it's
important
when
we
talk
about
accountability,
that
we
talk
about
accountability,
for
whom,
how
would
city
council
be
able
to
enact
reforms
within
mpd
more
effectively
than
the
current
structure?
Because
when
we
talk
about
accountability,
for
whom
are
we
talking
about
accountability
of
all
officers
or
are
we
talking
about
the
accountability
of
elected
officials
here?
And
that
is
a
real
question.
B
All
right
well
before
I
answer
that
I
will,
I
do
see
council
remember
gordon,
is
in
queue
so
council,
member.
B
D
D
It
was
really
clear
in
2006
that
we
needed
to
do
something
as
soon
as
I
got
on
the
council
and
realized
that
we
had
no
ability
to
set
any
policy
actually
over
the
police
department
and
that
that
was
all
done
by
executive
order
by
the
police
chief
and
really
by
the
mayor,
but
the
mayors
typically
transfer
that
to
the
police
chief
and
every
time
we
had
a
new
mayor
and
a
new
police
chief
or
every
time,
there's
a
big
publicity
event.
D
Policy
gets
changed
by
executive
order
quickly,
sometimes
not
transparently,
there's
not
a
hearing,
and
it
never
actually
becomes
city
policy.
It's
department
policy.
We
can't
even
impact
the
use
of
force
policy
of
the
most
critical
pieces
of
policy
for
the
department
that
should
probably
be
reviewed
in
a
very
public
way
and
should
be
voted
on
and
should
be
enshrined
as
city
policy.
So
when
it
gets
changed,
it
actually
has
to
come
back
up
to
the
council
and
have
city
policy,
so
there's
two
broken
pieces
of
the
charter.
D
The
big
one
is
that
all
of
the
oversight
is
given
to
one
individual
who
delegates
it
to
the
chief
and
there's
not
a
process.
There's
not
a
review,
there's
not
a
vote,
so
this
is
accountability
about
elected
officials
and
every
day
I
go
around
and
people
are
wondering
why
can't
you
manage
this
department,
like
you?
Do
public
safety,
the
fire
department,
the
health
department?
D
Where
is
some
something
that
you
can
do
to
actually
manage
this
and,
of
course,
with
all
of
those
other
departments
we
run
into
labor
contracts
and
unions.
We
run
into
state
laws
and
preemptions
like
that,
but
we
can
at
least
set
city
policy
through
open,
transparent
process
then
can
then
hold
ourselves
accountable
and
say
yep.
I
did
support
that.
I
would
welcome
the
day
when
council
members
could
say.
Yes,
I
carefully
reviewed
the
use
of
force
policy.
D
Yes,
I
took
all
the
advice
I
could
get
from
all
the
experts
and
that's
how
I
voted
and
to
change
it
and
I
won
or
lost,
and
I'm
going
to
defend
that
decision
publicly
with
you.
Instead,
we
can't
really
do
that
and
we
we
try
to
sometimes
manipulate
it
through
the
appointment
process
of
police
chiefs
and
through
the
budgets,
but
that's
not
appropriate.
It's
not
modern.
It's
not
professional.
It's
not
democratic.
B
All
right
so
councilmember
palmisano
we're
gonna,
go
ahead
and
we'll
we'll
wrap
up
here
with
you,
because
we
do
have
guest
speakers
here
today.
This
conversation
will
continue.
It's
okay
for
you
to
vote
no
on
it
today,
it's
okay
for
you,
we're
not
gonna,
give
you
an
answer
in
which
you
feel
satisfied
with.
So
I
think
we
will
continue
this
conversation.
If
it's
helpful,
we
can
prepare
a
presentation
in
the
future
for
a
future
public
health
and
safety
committee
meeting.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
wrap
it
up.
K
Thank
you.
You
know
I.
I
just
do
think
that
this
is
the
most
important
piece
on
our
agenda
today,
so
I
will
take
you
up
on
that
offer
to
have
a
future
presentation
about
what
this
proposal
has
in
it
or
not.
Council
member
ellison
just
said,
or
seemed
to
indicate
that
I
was
hiding
behind
bureaucracy.
K
To
me,
this
is
about
adding
bureaucracy.
The
way
that
I
read
this
charter
proposal.
It
adds
two
layers
of
overlapping
authority
onto
our
existing
structure.
Under
this
new
proposal,
the
chief
becomes
significantly
less
accountable.
You
are
eliminating
their
appointment
process
and
opportunities
for
public
comment
which
are
currently
required.
I
appreciate
and
agree
with
council
member
gordon's
concern
that
he
doesn't
have
that
there
doesn't
have
to
or
doesn't
need
to
be
daylight
on
things
like
some
policy
changes,
but
I
don't
see
how
this
adds
accountability
under
this
current
structure.
K
I'll
end
with
this
question
after
a
critical
or
high
profile
incident
under
the
current
structure,
the
mayor
is
accountable
to
the
public
in
one
important
practical
way.
We
see
that
responsibility
carried
out
is
by
briefing
the
press
corps,
getting
information
to
the
public
as
soon
as
possible.
It's
important,
but
it's
imperfect,
but
it's
about
building
and
maintaining
trust.
So
under
this
structure,
which
elected
official
would
be
accountable
to
the
public
during
times
of
crisis
like
that.
B
All
right
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
wrap
it
there.
I
will
just
say
that
you
were
not
reading
it
correctly
around
the
appointment
of
the
chief
and
that's
okay.
We
will
explain
that
further
in
the
presentation
and
like
in
any
other
crisis
or
emergency.
The
mayor
is
in
charge
with
any
other
department,
with
any
other
situation,
the
mayor's
in
charge
when
there's
a
crisis,
so
this
doesn't
magically
change
that,
in
fact,
it
makes
it
more
consistent
with
the
other
departments.
B
So
with
that,
I
will
again
move
approval
of
item
number
eight
and
call
call
upon
the
clerk
to
call
the
role.
Please.
K
L
B
B
That
item
carries,
and
so
now
we
will
move
on
to
our
discussion
items.
For
today
we
do
have
quite
a
few
discussion
items,
which
is
why
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
enough
time,
because
we
have
a
few
a
couple
of
folks
here
I
would
say
we
actually
have
some
pretty
important
discussion
items
that
we
need
to
that.
We
need
to
cover
today.
So
first
up,
I'm
sorry.
B
I
am
going
to
switch
this
around
so
that
we
can
have
the
first
presentation
be
the
study
of
injuries
from
less
lethal
weapons
during
the
george
floyd
protests.
B
We
do
have
presenters
here
from
the
university
of
minnesota
and
one
of
them
does
have
to
leave
here
shortly.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
get
to
the
that
presentation
first
and
then
we
will
move
back
to
our
evidence-based
violence
production
presentation.
B
Y
Okay,
great,
my
name
is
erica
cassie.
I
was
just
having
some
trouble
with
the
video,
so
I
will
just
be
using
the
dial-in
function.
C
B
E
Y
Y
Next
slide,
we
have
no
disclosures.
You
can
go
on
the
next
slide
after
that.
So
I
wanted
to
talk
about
this
poem
because
I
thought
it
was
applicable
to
our
discussion
today
the
inauguration
poem
from
amanda
gorman
and,
as
I
was
rereading
through
her
poem,
this
section
felt
especially
relevant
to
our
conversation.
Y
The
hill
we
climb,
if
only
we
dare
it's
because
being
american
is
more
than
a
pride.
We
inherit
this
past
we
step
into
and
how
we
repair
it
and,
as
we
step
back
to
discuss
the
injuries
from
the
george
floyd
protests,
I
want
to
think
about
how
we
can
play
a
role
in
this
repair,
so
we're
on
the
fifth
slide.
Now
here's
our
discussion
outline
our
presentation
will
be
about
15
minutes.
Y
First,
we'll
start
with
a
terminology
overview
we'll
go
over
two
cases
and
the
united
nations
guidelines
for
the
use
of
west
lepa
weapons.
Then
we'll
go
over
the
current
policy,
the
current
mpd
policy
and
some
recommendations.
We
have,
as
well
as
the
public
health
implications
of
our
findings
and
then
a
brief
q.
A
run
slide
six
now
terminology
overview
in
slide.
Seven,
so
kinetic
impact
projectiles
are
really
an
umbrella
term
for
rubber
bullets,
bean
bag
rounds
and
sponge
rounds.
Y
They're
composed
of
a
wide
range
of
materials
and
can
include
metal,
and
while
these
munitions
have
soft
sounding
descriptors,
they
can
really
cause
serious
harm,
even
fracture
patterns
similar
to
lethal
weapons.
A
recent
review
found
that
of
those
seeking
emergency
care
for
injuries
from
these
weapons.
Y
They
can
be
handheld
or
fired
in
a
similar
way
as
rubber
bullets.
From
a
modified
firearm
hand,
holes
are
larger
than
what
you
might
carry
for
personal
protection
too
they're
more
similar
to
like
a
bear
spray.
You
might
take
camping
worth
mentioning
these
weapons.
They
have
delicate
descriptors,
we
call
it
tear
gas,
but
symptoms
can
be
severe,
and
one
question
worth
considering
is:
why
are
these
called
chemical
irritants
when
used
on
protesters?
Y
The
chemical
weapons,
when
used
in
warfare
next
on
slide
nine,
we'll
discuss
our
study
findings
and
for
anyone
who
would
prefer
not
to
see
any
clinical
images
or
protest
photos.
I've
included
a
yellow
box
at
the
bottom
right
hand
of
the
screen
throughout
the
powerpoint.
To
give
you
a
heads
up
here
on
slide
10,
I
will
take
it
away
and
dr
darrell
will
discuss
this
case.
Z
So
our
first
case
was
a
young
black
boy
who
was
walking
in
his
neighborhood,
not
participating
for
report
in
protests
and
was
struck
in
the
head
with
rubber
bullet.
This
is
one
of
the
first
nights
of
the
protest.
There
was
no
curfew
in
place
and
this
was
very
early.
So
most
people
didn't
know
what
a
rubber
bullet
was.
Z
Rubber
bullets
are
not
intended
to
fracture.
The
skull
are
not
supposed
to
have
that
much
energy
and
unfortunately,
as
you
can
see
on
the
ct
scan
in
this
case,
you
can
see
the
skull
fractured
in
and
protruding
into
the
brain
parenchyma,
and
for
this
he
he
underwent
emergency
surgery
to
remove
those
these
pieces
from
his
brain,
which
invariably
causes
brain
damage.
But
what
these
images
do
not
show
are
the
percussion
wave
causing
damage
throughout
the
brain,
which
you
know
may
impact
him
in
the
long
run.
Z
He
did
well,
thankfully,
with
surgery
and
stayed
in
the
hospital
for
just
a
few
days,
but
you
know
is
likely
to
face
longer
term
consequences
from
traumatic
brain
injury
which
dramatically
increases
the
risk
of
psychiatric
and
cognitive
disorders,
and
this
is
sort
of
the
case
that
that
inspired
us
to
complete
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
hours
of
work
in
this
field,
with
many
many
physicians
and
and
medical
students
and
and
professors
here
at
the
university
to
make
sure
that
you
know
these
injuries
were
catalogued
appropriately.
Y
Let's
go
on
the
next
slide.
Thank
you,
dr
darrell.
So
this
case
is
one
of
just
many
treated
at
two
hospitals.
In
minneapolis
we
found
89
people
who
needed
emergency
medical
care
during
a
pandemic,
notably
for
injuries
related
to
crowd,
control
weapons
and
over
half
of
those
injuries
were
projectile
strikes
like
rubber
bullets,
and
when
we
looked
closer
when
we
looked
closer
at
the
data
40
of
those
were
hit
in
the
head.
Y
Moving
on
to
our
next
slide.
Here
we
see
the
guidelines
and
looking
at
these
guidelines,
this
was
concerning
to
us
the
united
nations
guidelines,
while
not
law
states
that
kinetic
impact
projectiles
should
not
be
targeted
at
the
head
face
or
neck,
and
these
these
strikes
the
head-facer
next
could
potentially
be
circumstances
for
unlawful
use
and
on
the
slide
13,
and
we
weren't
the
only
group
that
noticed
this
pattern
of
head
injuries.
Y
Researchers
from
the
physicians
for
human
rights
group
investigated
all
media
reports
from
injuries
for
the
from
the
george
floyd
protests
across
the
united
states
and
found
115
cases
of
head
injuries.
One
of
those
injuries
was
a
patient
in
austin
texas,
whose
ct
scan
of
a
penetrating
head
injury
from
the
bean
bag
can
be
seen
on
the
right
next
I'll
turn
it
over
to
dr
darrow
again
to
discuss
a
young
patient
with
a
blowout
fracture
in
minneapolis.
After
a
tear
gas,
canister
injury.
Z
Thank
you
eric
the
tear
grass
canisters
are
you
know
in
these,
in
many
cases
fired
from
essentially
a
firearm
and
are
not
completely
benign.
This
tear
gas
canister
struck
this
person
right
in
the
orbit
fracturing
multiple
portions
of
the
orbit,
and
this
person
was
reported
as
a
bystander
not
participating
in
the
protest,
but
at
a
clean
up
event.
Z
This
person
required
emergency
surgery
and
and
removal
of
the
eye.
You
know,
obviously
resulting
in
blindness
followed
by
multiple
reconstruction
surgeries
to
to
fix
the
the
orbit
and
the
structure
of
the
face.
Y
Y
We
were
concerned
when
we
heard
about
tear
gas
canister
injuries,
because
united
nations
guidelines
state
that
this
is
potentially
unlawful,
stating
that
irritant
projectiles
should
generally
not
be
fired
at
an
individual
and
in
any
event,
they
should
not
be
fired
at
the
head
of
their
face
owing
to
risk
of
death
and
serious
injury
from
impact
trauma
now
to
our
paper
conclusions,
although
the
unit,
all
together
with
with
the
united
nations
guidelines,
this
led
us
to
conclude
that
kinetic
impact
projectiles
like
rubber
bullets
like
tear
gas
canisters,
like
bean
bags,
they're,
not
appropriate
for
crowd
control,
and
while
we
present
two
cases
of
young
patients,
we
observed
injuries
from
the
very
young
to
the
very
old
and
despite
reports
of
out-of-state
participants,
the
majority
of
those
affected
by
these
weapons
in
our
study
were
minneapolis
residents.
Y
N
E
I'll
start
our
conversation
on
current
policy
and
policy
recommendations
and
then
erica
you
can
pick
up
wherever
I
have
to
leave
off
that
works
great.
So,
on
this
slide
you
see.
Can
we
move
to
the
next
slide?
Please
next
slide
after
that.
Thank
you.
So,
on
this
slide,
you
see
the
current
mpd
policy
regarding
less
lethal
weapons,
which
states
that
crowd
control
weapons
shall
not
be
authorized
for
peaceful
gatherings
or
assemblies.
E
E
So
many
of
the
patients
that
were
reviewed
in
our
in
our
study
were
bystanders
or
at
a
peaceful
protest,
yet
still
have
injuries
from
these
weapons
right,
and
so
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
civil
disturbances
and
demonstrations
and
can
co-occur
and
might
vary
from
one
block
to
another.
Essentially,
and
in
any
scenario,
however,
you,
the
united
nations
guidelines
and
manufacturer
guidelines
still
should
apply
that
being
that
no
one
should
should
be
shot
in
the
head
with
one
of
these
crowd
control
weapons.
E
So
from
an
evaluation
of
these
guidelines
from
a
medical,
as
well
as
from
a
public
health
perspective,
there's
a
quite
a
few
discrepancies
that
that
would
allow
the
events
that
occurred
this
summer
and
the
civil
unrest
after
george
george
floyd's
murder
to
happen
again,
and
I
think,
certainly
as
we
approach
the
trial
of
derek
chav,
and
we
need
to
be
thinking
very
carefully
and
very
critically
about
what
our
next
steps
are
and
how
to
keep
community
members
who
want
to
peacefully
protest
safe
next
slide,
please.
E
So
with
that,
we
have
a
few,
I
think,
about
three
policy
recommendations
that
we'll
share
share
with
you
all
today
before
jumping
into
some
questions
and
answers.
So
our
first
recommendation
is
to
consider
limiting
the
use
of
kinetic
impact
projectiles
like
rubber
bullets
and
foam
bullets
next
slide,
please.
E
So
all
the
reasons
for
the
large
number
of
head
injuries
is
certainly
multifactorial.
One
point
that
I
think
it's
important
to
highlight
is
the
inherent
inaccuracies
of
these
weapons
in
a
crowd
setting
and
we'll
show
you
a
few
different
examples
of
how
this
plays
out.
So
these
weapons
should
generally
be
fired
from
about
from
between
10
to
40
meters
away,
and
these
guidelines
are,
from
the
actual
manufacturer
instructions
for
each
each
weapon
type.
E
However,
these
distance
requirements
that
are
set
by
the
manufacturer
for
intended
use
is
not
always
possible
or
always
carried
out
right
in
a
crowd
setting,
and
so
often
these
weapons
are
shot
at
quite
a
bit
of
a
closer
range,
and
while
that
allows
for
the
shot
to
perhaps
be
more
accurate,
it
can
also
cause
serious
penetrating
injuries
that
are
similar
to
a
gunshot
wound,
and
you
know,
we've
certainly
showed
you
a
couple
of
examples
of
how
that
can
play
out
next
slide.
E
Please,
on
the
other
hand,
if
and
if
a
law
enforcement
officer
is
further
away,
they
might
have
a
less
accurate
shot.
So
this
diagram
shows
that
at
50
plus
meters,
you
know
so.
The
projectile
may
now
hit
the
thin
sort
of
vulnerable
structure
of
the
face,
which
requires
less
force
to
fracture
and
again
serious
injury
might
result
next
slide.
Please,
and
then
in
this
diagram
you
see
this
is
a
distance.
E
You
know
of
more
than
two
meters,
it's
problematic
in
a
protest
because
there's
likely
to
be
more
people,
there's
crowds
of
people
right
that
are
that
are
in
the
way,
and
so
it's
just
increasing
that
risk
of
folks
being
unintentionally
harmed
as
these
projectiles
are
being
sent
into
large
groups
of
people
next
slide.
Please-
and
actually
I
think,
maybe
erica.
This
probably
will
be
a
good
point
where
I
can't
I
should
have
you
jump
in
my
apologies.
E
I
I
have
to
get
to
another
commitment,
but
thank
you
for
your
time
and
for
considering
our
work
as
you
as
you
do
the
work
of
creating
policy.
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
Y
For
me
that
was
difficult
to
comprehend,
so
I
in
this
basketball
court
example
you'll
see
an
officer
that's
within
a
yellow
zone
and
a
protester
on
the
left
side.
Y
So
basically,
the
officer
should
be
in
the
yellow
zone
for
a
safe
shot
any
closer
than
that,
and
that
could
cause
a
penetrating
injury
similar
to
the
examples
we
showed
before.
Y
In
the
likelihood
the
likelihood
that,
in
a
crowd,
someone
would
be
between
an
officer
and
the
other
end
of
a
basketball
court
is
very
high,
meaning
that
it's
possible.
They
would
hit
an
unintended
person,
a
reminder
that
the
guidelines
in
shooting
in
the
yellow
zone
are
for
shots
to
the
lower
legs.
Only
if
you
hit
someone
in
the
face
in
the
yellow
range,
this
can
also
be
a
lethal
shot.
Y
Y
An
officer
might
aim
their
shot,
expecting
it
to
slope
downward,
but
if
the
weapon
is
faster,
the
bullet
might
fly
straighter
and
instead
of
sloping
downward
hit
the
lower
limb,
it
might
hit
an
unintended
body
region
like
the
face-
and
here
are
just
two
examples-
potential
shots
that
are
outside
of
this
yellow
zone.
I
just
described
making
sure
you're
on
slide
26..
Y
Y
So
overall,
I
really
hope
this
helps
explain
how
projectiles
like
rubber
bullets
are
inherently
inaccurate
and
how
inaccuracies
are
worsened
in
a
crowd,
control
setting
and
these
criticisms
aren't
just
my
own.
These
criticisms
have
been
in
place
for
years,
yet
their
use
has
continued
and
many
patients
are
still
being
harmed
in
our
study,
this
included
57
people,
40
of
which
were
shot
in
the
head.
Y
These
results
show
that,
even
while,
following
guidelines
and
training
protocols
like
that
were
in
place
for
mpd,
a
crowded
environment
doesn't
always
allow
for
these
weapons
to
use
how
they
are
intended.
Y
Our
second
recommendation,
which
from
the
next
slide,
is
of
a
similar
note,
and
that
is
to
consider
limiting
the
use
of
chemical
irritants
to
handheld
devices,
bringing
us
back
to
that
second
case.
We
went
over
and
I
tried
to
visualize
this
again
in
a
way
that's
easier
to
understand,
so
I'm
530,
so
I
tried
to
show
how
far
these
pure
gas
canisters
actually
travel
when
launched
from
a
firearm.
Y
They
they
also
travel
faster
and
further
than
a
rubber
bullet
to
approximately
a
50
yard
line
in
a
football
field
at
50
yards
it's
difficult
to
monitor
if
the
canister
will
hit
someone
they're.
Also,
these
tear
gas
canisters
are
also
traveling
in
an
arc
first
sloping
up
and
then
sloping
down
and
on
their
downward
descent.
They
can
hit
someone
in
the
head.
Y
Y
Our
study
only
looked
at
injuries
in
the
acute
setting.
We
didn't
investigate
long-term
health
consequences
and,
while
our
study
found
that
chemical
irritants
resulted
in
minor
injuries
reports
from
other
cities
like
portland
and
seattle,
where
individuals
were
repeatedly
exposed
suffered
long-term
health
consequences,
a
study
in
the
u.s
army
also
found
that
repeated
exposure
can
result
in
long-term
respiratory
health
consequences,
which
is
really
concerning
during
a
pandemic
and
as
many
cities
have
banned.
The
use
of
chemical
irritants
entirely.
Based
on
these
concerns,
council
may
also
want
to
consider
this
option
on
the
next
slide.
Y
Y
This
policy
in
place,
like
many
others,
banned
these
weapons
only
in
protests,
meaning
peaceful
protests,
which
seems
to
already
have
been
in
place
in
the
mpd
policy
during
the
summer
protest.
This
may
suggest
the
need
for
more
comprehensive
reform
and
quality
improvement
in
public
safety
and
next
slide,
and
this
is
exactly
what
the
united
nations
called
for
just
last
week.
Y
B
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
here
and
presenting
this
critical
information.
We
have
council,
member,
gordon
and
q.
D
Thank
you
very
much
yeah.
This
is
really
a
disturbing
report.
I
do
have
a
few
questions
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
was
done
for
this
and
it
I
I
think,
the
initiative.
It
really
shows
a
commitment
to
trying
to
make
a
difference
so
really
appreciate
that
and
having
a
partnership
with
this
kind
of
research
with
policymakers,
I
think,
is
really
one
major
strategy
that
we
can
use
to
improve
things.
So
this
is
very
useful.
D
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
any
demographic
information
in
terms
of
the
victims
who
were
hit
and
hit
in
the
head.
Do
we
know
how
many
were
male
and
female
black
or
white?
That
kind
of
thing.
Y
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
question.
Council.
Remember
gordon!
Yes,
we
do
have
that
information
and
that
information
was
filed.
I
believe
as
as
well
so
it's
available
on
the
city
website
in
our
appendix
and
so
demographics
are
fairly
representative
of
minneapolis
in
general.
I
hope
that
answers
your
questions
for
more
specific
demographics.
I
would
point
you
towards
our
table
in
our
appendix.
D
I'll
look
it
up
and
I
guess
we'll
point
the
public
towards
that
too.
So
you're
saying
it
was
a
majority
white
and
I
could
try
to
look
it
up
here,
but
now
I'm
asking
questions
so
maybe
I'll
look
it
up
later.
So
I
appreciate
that.
Do
you
happen
to
know
if
the
rubber
bullets
that
we're
using
are
the
kind
mentioned
in
the
presentation
that
have
metal
on
the
inside.
Y
I
did
try
to
look
up
this
information
and,
unfortunately,
from
my
investigation,
I
I
do
not
believe
that
the
type
of
rubber
bullets
were
made
available
to
the
public
by
mpd.
D
Okay,
maybe
we
can
find
out
later.
Hopefully
somebody
from
the
department
will
be
here
to
speak
to
I'm
also
wondering
if
you
found
anything
in
the
current
policy
that
provides
any
guidance
to
a
chief,
because
it
seems
like
ultimately
we're
even
saying
one
of
the
policies
is
that
the
chief
must
determine
when
they're
needed
and
when
they
can
be
used
and
authorize
them.
Is
there
any
guidance
in
the
policy
that
says
how
they're
supposed
to
make
that
determination.
Y
The
determination
that
I
have
found
and
granted
I'm
coming
at
this
from
a
public
health
perspective,
not
necessarily
a
policy
perspective.
So
there
may
be
someone
here
with
better
expertise
than
me,
but
I
looked
at
the
mpd
guidelines
and
the
they
do
have
definitions
for
civil
disturbances
and
demonstrations
and
from
my
understanding
they
make
the
determination
based
on
based
on
that.
Y
Y
However,
I
I
would
say
that
there
is
potentially
room
for
these
guidelines
to
be
elaborated
upon.
D
Yeah-
and
that
certainly
seems
pretty
vague
and
subjective,
whether
it's
a
civil
disturbance
or
a
peaceful
protest,
and
I
think
what
was
happening
at
the
third
precinct
is.
It
was
a
peaceful
protest,
but
then
individuals
were
being
identified
as
obstructing
traffic
or
and
if
you
watch
the
video
it's
pretty
clear,
some
of
what
was
going
on,
they
look.
I
think
there
were
even
grocery
carts
being
dragged
in
the
street
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
there'd
be
projectiles
shot
towards
the
people
who
were
putting
those
in
the
street,
so
it
was.
D
It
was
disturbing
to
watch
some
of
that
too.
Well,
I
really
appreciate
the
report
and
those
are
the
main
questions
that
I
have
right
now.
Thank
you.
Y
Yes,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
that
insight,
one
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
that,
even
during
a
civil
demonstration,
the
guidelines
from
the
manufacturers
into
united
nations
state
that
these
weapons
still
shouldn't
result
in
hits
of
head
face
or
neck.
D
Well-
and
it
appears
as
if
they
were
that's
well-
I
don't
know
a
majority
of
the
victims.
Correct
were
hit
in
the
head,
so
that
would
appear
that
maybe
that
was
actually
where
people
were
aiming.
B
B
Your
opinion,
yes,
thank
you
councilmember
gordon.
We
do
have
council
member
fletcher
in
queue.
X
The
university
of
minnesota
really
is
an
important
resource
for
our
community,
and
I
know
that
this
takes
a
lot
of
work
and
a
lot
of
time,
and
so
I
really
am
appreciative
that
you
brought
this
forward,
and
this
is
a
hard
report
to
read.
This
is
not
something.
X
This
is
not
a
view
of
our
city
that
makes
me
proud.
This
is
not
a
view
university
that
makes
me
comfortable.
It
is
something
that
I
think
we
we
have
to
confront
as
we
think
about
how
we
move
forward.
X
I
think
it
was
really
important
for
us
to
formally
receive
this
report
in
some
way
for
the
city
to
acknowledge
this
and
and
to
formally
receive
it
and
and
to
recognize
it,
and
I
want
to
thank
council
vice
president
jenkins
for
suggesting
it.
This
was
actually
a
conversation
that
that
she
initiated,
and
I
really
appreciate
her
suggestion
and
all
of
you
accepting
the
invitation
now
now
that
we
have
sort
of
formally
received
this
information.
X
We
can't
say
we
didn't
know,
we
can't
say
that
we're
surprised
and
we
now
have
to
sort
of
figure
out
how
to
act,
and
I
want
to
say
clearly
that
it
is
under
our
current
charter.
This
is
something
that
the
mayor
and
the
chief
can
act
on.
The
state
legislature
specifically
places
use
of
force
policy
in
departmental
policy,
and
the
charter
specifically
prevents
us
from
impacting
departmental
policy.
So
I
think
there
are
sort
of
two
paths
for
us
to
resolve
this,
or
maybe
three
paths
as
a
city.
X
The
mayor
and
the
chief
can
receive
and
respond
to
these
recommendations,
and
I
would
encourage
them
to
look
very
closely
at
this
report
and-
and
I
hope
that
they
will-
and
I
know
that
we
told
the
presenters
from
mpd
who
are
coming
up
later,
that
we
would
be
receiving
this
report
so
that
if
they
had
relevant
information
about
changes
that
they're
making,
they
could
bring
it
forward
and
I'll
look
forward
to
that
conversation.
X
This
is
something
the
way
that
we
made.
The
change
that
was
described
in
policy
was
actually
through
the.
X
Agreement
with
the
department
of
human
rights
that
that
we
all
approved,
and
so
that
ongoing
patterns
and
practices
investigation,
is
something
that
could
be
a
vehicle
for
bringing
this
kind
of
policy
change
forward.
And
I
will
make
sure
that
we
forward
this
report
to
the
department
of
human
rights.
Although
I'm
certain
they've
already
seen
it
as
well
and
then.
X
Finally,
I
think
as
a
last
resort-
and
maybe
the
least
effective
or
or
least
clear
path
would
be
for
us
as
a
council,
to
try
to
consider
through
budget
preventing
the
purchase
of
this
kind
of
equipment
which
is
really
kind
of
the
only
place
where
our
authority
starts
to
enter
into
this
conversation,
and
certainly,
if,
if
we're
not
seeing
policy
shift
in
a
way
that
acknowledges
the
very
important
human
rights
and
public
health
implications
of
this
report.
X
That
would
be
something
that
we
should
consider
as
well.
But
I
just
want
to
frame
up
for
everybody
that
cities
are
different
from
city
to
city
and
their
charters
and
their
legal
power,
and
what
philadelphia
can
do
might
not
be
something
that
minneapolis
can
do
at
least
in
the
same
way.
But
this
certainly
is
something
that
we
receive.
It's
knowledge
that
we
have
as
a
city
now
that
we've
presented
and
discussed
publicly
and
that
I
hope
we
are
able
to
act
on.
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
presentation.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
fletcher,
next
step
in
queue.
I
see
that
we
oh,
and
I
just
want
to
echo
the
gratitude
to
the
research
team,
as
well
as
to
council
vice
president
jenkins,
as
well
as
council
member
fletcher,
for
helping
facilitate
this
presentation.
B
I
do
think
it's
very
important
that
when
we
get
research
generated
in
this
kind
of
way,
when
we
get
analyses
generated
in
the
way
that
the
city
operates,
that
it's
very
important
for
us
to
take
that
information
and
digest
it
and
let
it
guide
policy
making
and
practices
for
the
city.
I
will
now
call
on
councilmember
gordon.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
think
it's
interesting
that
this
issue
has
come
up
now
after
we
were
talking
about.
Why
would
we
need
to
change
the
charter
and
isn't
it
great
that
we
have
one
person
who
just
can
set
the
policy
and
elected?
D
And
here
we
have
something
where
I
think
the
community
would
want
to
have
more
of
a
voice
in
how
that
policy
gets
set
and
the
community
would
expect
their
elected
representatives
to
maybe
have
some
input
on
that
and
we
are
finding
ourselves
that
we,
we
can't
necessarily
have
that,
except
through
some
contortions
because
of
the
charter.
D
I'll
also
note
that
the
budget
issue
didn't
work
with
tasers
very
well.
I
was
here
when
the
department
came
and
wanted
a
quarter
million
dollars
to
buy
tasers
and
we
were
able
to
hold
up
the
funding.
This
was
outside
the
regular
budget
process,
hold
up
the
funding
and
say
come
back
with
a
policy
and
we'll
consider
that
they
we
asked
them
to
work
with
our
oversight
committee.
It
was
a
longer
process
that
we
requested
that
they
do
and
they
did
it.
D
They
developed
a
policy,
they
came
and
presented
the
policy
to
us,
the
chief
at
the
time,
and
then
we
approved
the
funding
and
then
six
months
later,
with
no
notification
to
anyone.
The
policy
was
removed
from
the
policy
document
and
later
I
was
told,
well
we
incorporated
some
of
those
ideas
into
the
training,
so
they
so
that,
just
to
warn
you,
council,
member
fletcher
that
sometimes
even
the
power
of
the
purse
doesn't
work
out
that.
Well
necessarily,
I
would
actually
like
to
move
a
staff
direction.
D
I
understand
that
mpd
is
here
and
they
may
be
making
some
comments
on
this
for
the
other
report
that
they're
doing,
but
I
would
like
to
direct
the
department
to
return
to
the
public
health
and
safety
committee
no
later
than
april.
1St
2021,
with
a
description
of
policy
and
procedure,
changes
to
eliminate
the
kinds
of
injuries
caused
by
the
use
of
less
lethal
weapons
described
by
the
interdisciplinary
team
from
the
university
of
minnesota
to
us
today,
and
if,
if
they
are
actually
going
to
describe
that
today,
I
guess
they
might
accomplish
that
staff
direction.
D
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
gordon.
I
will
just
say,
as
the
chair
of
the
committee,
that
I
do
have
concerns
about
this
particular
staff
direction,
because
we
don't
have
the
authority
to
direct
mpd.
B
So
so
I
corresponded
with
the
chair,
I'm
sorry,
not
the
chair,
the
city,
clerk
and
and
and
he
recommended
changing
the
language
to
requesting
rather
than
directing,
because
that
is
actually
more
within
our
purview
per
the
charter.
B
I'm
sure
we
do
have
andrea
enough
on
the
line.
I
do
believe
who
can
help
us
with
with
this?
Hopefully
andrea.
Are
you
on
the
on
the
line.
J
I
am
here
chair
cunningham.
I
apologize
for
a
moment
there
councilmember
gordon
you
did
cut
out,
but
I'll
do
my
best
to
answer
the
question.
As
I
understand
it,
the
council
member
cunningham
correctly
notes
that
the
current
charter
gives
the
mayor
complete
control
over
the
police
department.
J
I
believe
that
the
requesting
language
would
be
more
consistent
with
that.
If
the
council
did
choose
to
direct
the
mpd
to
come
back
with
certain
information.
Of
course,
there
is
the
possibility
that
you
know
through
that
political
process.
The
mayor
would
say:
I'm
not
willing
to
comply
with
that
direction
and
then
there
would
be
you
know
that
would
have
to
be
worked
out
in
the
you
know.
The
political
sphere
between
the
mayor
and
the
council,
certainly
the
the
council,
can
ask
for
any
information.
J
D
I
appreciate
that
I
will
note
that
historically,
the
council
has
often
given
direction
to
the
police
chief,
although
I
have
also
heard
from
the
attendee
attorney
that
it
does
not
carry
the
same
weight.
So
I
agree
with
your
determination
chair.
It
often
is
taken
more
as
a
request,
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
clerk
wanted
to
add
something,
because
I
think
I
see
something
that
was
posted
in
the
chat.
D
Also
noting
that
if
we
use
the
word
request,
it
doesn't
mean
it
goes
to
the
full
council
for
approval.
Mr
carl,
are
you
available
our
chair
through
you?
Could
we
hear
from
mr
carl
to
clarify
that.
B
So
I'm
I'm
happy
to
pass
it
over
to
mr
carl.
I
will
just
say
that
what
the
points
is
is
well.
First,
he
put
the
suggested
language
change
in
the
chat
and
then
that
it
would,
if
passed,
go
before
the
full
city
council.
But
then
it's
an
act
of
the
city
council,
which
is
subject
to
the
approval
or
veto
of
the
mayor.
So
the
mayor
still
has
the
ability
to
veto
this
particular
direction.
B
I
I
will
say
that,
essentially,
we
have
made
requests
in
the
past
and
they
have
the
ability
to
comply
or
to
not
comply,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
very
important
for
us
to
be
clear
about
what
authority
we
actually
have
here
and
this
exceeds
our
authority,
so
we're
politely
requesting
essentially
that
they
that
they
do
this
particular
work.
So
are
you
willing
to
accept
that
alternative
language
that
says
request
instead
of
direct.
D
I'll
take
that
as
a
friendly
amendment,
and
it
is
a
strong
request
and
I
really
hope
that
we
hear
from
them.
You
don't
have
to
put
that
in
the
land.
B
My
pleasure,
all
right
so
council
over
gordon,
has
made
a
motion
requesting
the
minneapolis
police
department
to
provide
a
description
of
policy
and
procedure
changes.
Sorry
policy
and
procedure
changes
intended
to
eliminate
the
kinds
of
injuries
caused
by
the
quote:
use
of
quote
less
lethal
weapons
described
by
the
interdisciplinary
team
from
the
university
of
minnesota
and
to
provide
that
information
to
the
public
health
and
safety
committee
at
its
regular
meeting
on
april
1st
2021,
and
with
that,
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
please
call
the
roll.
D
T
X
B
B
That
item
carries
so
it
will
go
before
the
full
city
council
next
friday.
I
do
again
just
want
to
be
clear
that
what
we
just
passed
here
does
not
actually
reflect
the
full
authority
that
we
have.
That
was
a
request
that
minneapolis
police
department
does
have
the
ability
to
fulfill
or
not
fulfill.
We
do
not
actually
have
the
authority
to
to
compel
them
to
to
to
fulfill
that
request,
so
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear
about
the
authority
delineation
there.
B
So
next
up,
thank
you,
everyone
and
thank
you
again
to
the
team
for
presenting
really
great
information
hard
to
hear
but
very
important.
Next
up,
we
will
be
receiving
and
filing
a
report
on
evidence-based
community-focused
approaches
to
reducing
violence
and
promoting
safe
communities.
This
is
an
exciting
presentation.
Today
we
have
some
guests
who
are
here,
and
so
we
will
kick
it
off
with
josh
peterson
from
the
office
of
violence
prevention
to
to
introduce
our
guests
on
the
topic.
Welcome
mr
peterson.
N
Thank
you,
chair,
cunningham
and
committee
members
happy
to
be
here
today,
so
I'm
josh
peterson
and
I'm
a
manager
with
the
office
of
violence
prevention
here
with
the
health
department
and
I'm
going
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
talking
about
one
of
the
city's
core
violence
prevention
initiatives,
which
is
the
next
step.
Hospital-Based
violence,
intervention
program-
and
we
wanted
to
do
that
for
a
couple
of
reasons
today.
N
N
One
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
is
that
it's
helpful
for
folks
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
what
the
city
is
already
doing,
and
so,
with
that
in
mind,
one
of
the
things
that
our
office
has
really
been
interested
in
doing
is
sharing
more
about
the
public
health
approach
to
violence
prevention,
and
particularly
some
of
the
initiatives
that
we're
doing
that
sort
of
make
up
that
approach.
So
we
wanted
to
take
that
opportunity.
N
And
then
we
may
be
able
to
have
a
chance
to
hear
from
kentrell
galloway
who's
part
of
the
next
step
program
at
hcmc2.
Depending
on
time,
so
if
I
could
have
the
next
slide,
please
and
actually
next
slide-
please
thank
you
so
just
very
briefly
to
set
the
stage
if
you
could
sorry
jump
back.
One
slide
now
very
briefly
to
set
the
stage
as
a
reminder.
Next
step
is
our
hospital-based
violence
intervention
program.
It
is
a
partnership
with
hennepin
healthcare,
north
memorial
and
now
abbott
northwestern
as
well.
N
N
discussions
with
north
memorial
then
started
in
2017,
and
we
launched
there
in
2018
recognizing
that,
in
order
to
serve
more
folks
in
minneapolis
who've
been
victims
of
violent
traumas.
We
really
needed
to
have
a
presence
at
both
hospitals
and
then
late
last
year
we
were
fortunate
to
start
some
conversations
with
abbott
northwestern
about
expanding
there
as
well,
and
we
will
be
looking
to
roll
out
there
in
this
spring
still.
B
Here
fatima,
if
you
are
on
the
line,
you
might
have
to
push
star
six,
if
you
are
muted.
AA
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
it's
really
an
honor
to
be
here
and
josh.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
invitation
and
your
introduction
again.
My
name
is
fatima
lauren
dreyer
executive
director
of
the
health
alliance
for
violence
intervention.
AA
I
am
here
by
phone
and
I
am
watching
the
screen,
but
there
is
a
delay
so
I'll
ask
for
the
next
slide
and
I'll
just
keep
I'll
keep
talking.
So
it
may
not
be
think,
but
next
slide
please.
AA
So
the
health
alliance
for
violence
intervention
was
founded
in
2009
and
we
support
roughly
85
cities,
build
hospital-based
and
hospital-linked
programs
in
the
united
states
and
beyond.
40
of
those
cities
are
hospital-based
programs
that
have
been
in
operation
and
are
existing
members.
We
are
membership
based
and
we
leverage
that
membership
to
ensure
model
fidelity.
We
administer
a
national
survey.
We
host
an
annual
conference
conference
that
brings
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
practitioners
across
the
country
to
learn
and
continue
to
gain
skills
of
learn
about
innovation
within
this
field.
AA
Oh
one
sidebar.
Thank
you.
An
additional
45
cities
have
requested
our
services
to
actually
stand
up,
hospital-based
violence,
intervention
programs
in
their
respective
cities.
So
the
growth
of
this
work
has
expanded
significantly
in
the
last
few
years,
and
I'm
really
honored
to
be
joined
by
anne
marx.
AA
Who
of
course
leads
a
youth
alive
there
of
that
organization's
program
caught
in
the
crossfire
is
the
first
hospital
linked
program
in
the
country
and
really
as
a
pioneer
in
this
in
this
effort,
and
we
thought
that
together,
we
could
share
about
this
incredible
work,
so
the
sex
slide
focuses
on
recognizing
that
hospital-based
violence.
Intervention
programs
are
part
of
a
suite
of
evidence-informed
violence
reduction
strategies,
and
so
I
know
that
the
city
of
minneapolis
is
currently
working
to
build
out
a
street
outreach
or
a
cure
violence
site.
AA
There
are
other
paddles
advance
peace
or
peace
fellowships.
They
may
be
called
if
you've
heard
of
those
focused
deterrence
or
a
gun
reduction
gun
violence.
Violence
is
a
gun.
AA
Violence
reduction
strategy,
which
was
leveraged
in
oakland,
is
another
strategy,
so
we
want
to
just
acknowledge
that
we
are
part
of
an
interconnected
set
of
approaches
that
really
represent
a
much
more
broad
basket
of
interventions
that
support
an
under
guiding
a
lot
of
guiding
principles
which,
essentially,
that
much
of
the
violence
that
we
see
peer-to-peer
interpersonal
violence
that
disproportionately
impacts
communities
of
color
has
certain
behavior
and
that
behavior
really
focuses
on
those
who
are
at
a
very
high
level
of
risk,
they're,
typically
connected
to
one
another.
AA
So
there's
a
network
effect
and
that
exposure
to
trauma
and
violence
increases,
one's
risk
factors
for
either
perpetration
or
harm
or
being
harmed
oneself,
and
so
these
models
focus
on
those
who
are
at
greatest
risk
to
really
direct
support,
resources
and
and
leverages
the
credibility
of
people
who
are
from
communities
who
are
leaders
who
have
the
ability
to
speak
directly
to
the
needs
of
those
who
might
be
at
great
risk.
And
so
these
are
the
baskets
of
interventions
beside
it.
AA
You
see
on
the
y-axis
strategy
and
coordination,
so
it's
incredibly
important
to
coordinate
those
efforts
and,
of
course,
on
the
bottom,
you
see
that
advocacy,
organizing
having
community
accountability
to
ensure
that
the
work
of
these
programs
continues
to
be
aligned
with
community
needs
is
incredibly
important
and
winning
approaches
that
many
cities
have
taken
on
next
slide.
Please
so
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
our
particular
model
and
again
it
begins
with
the
violent
injury.
AA
There's
been
a
number
of
studies
that
have
been
conducted
over
the
years
that
look
at
the
incredibly
high
rates
of
re-injury,
again
largely
in
communities
of
color
and
and
what
we
find
is
that
the
range
is
quite
extensive,
going
as
high
as
you
can
see
in
this
chart
to
you
know
60
70
percent,
and
what
that
means
is
that
someone
who's
been
shot
or
or
intentionally
wounded
and
enter
our
hospitals.
AA
The
chances
that
they
will
return
to
the
hospital
within
five
years
is
what
we
estimate
roughly
30
to
40
percent,
so
the
the
cost
not
only
the
the
trauma,
the
cost
to
communities,
but
also
the
medical
costs.
The
cost
to
other
systems
is
is
enormous,
and
this
is
something
that
hospital-based
violence.
Intervention
programs
are
particularly
aware
of
and
connected
to.
AA
We
want
to
ensure
that
we
are
supporting
those
who
have
been
injured,
who
are
entering
the
hospital
and
to
address
the
all
of
the
needs
they
have
so
that
they
are
not
harmed
again
or
potentially
retaliate
and
harm.
Others
next
slide
please.
AA
So
we
focus
particularly
on
the
role
of
again
credible
messengers
or
violence,
intervention
specialists.
They
are
mentors,
they
are
case.
Managers,
they're
called
many
things
peer
support
specialists,
they
have
many
many
names
across
the
country,
but
what
they
are
are
leveraged
to
do
is
to
support
clients
who
again
have
been
injured,
who
are
either
in
the
hospital
or
immediately
following
their
discharge
to
support
them
in
what's
considered
the
golden
moment.
AA
I
think
that
the
one
more
slide
back
this
golden
moment,
where
a
person
might
a
client
who's
been
injured,
might
consider
other
options
for
their
lives
may
be
more
receptive
to
thinking
about
resources.
The
trauma,
the
incredible
trauma
of
the
event
itself
might
conjure.
Other
fears
that
that,
if
we
can
address
in
the
short
term,
can
actually
generate
a
whole
new
set
of
decisions
and
supports,
I
want
to
just
acknowledge
that,
of
course,
interpersonal
violence
is
not
just
about
individual
behavior.
AA
We
acknowledge
that
structural
violence
is
a
really
important
component
of
what
leads
people
to
be
in
harm's
way
or
potentially
harm
others.
So
there's
an
acknowledgement
of
that
and
structural
racism.
But
of
course
there
is
an
opportunity
to
intervene
and
support
individuals
in
their
lives,
and
we
leverage
violence
prevention
specialists
to
do
so,
and
we've
been
instrumental
actually
in
violence.
AA
Intervention
specialists
receiving
the
the
the
a
designation
within
the
national
uniform
claims
committee
there's
a
taxonomy
that
allows
for
insurance
to
actually
reimburse
for
these
services,
and
this
isn't
particularly
important
for
sustainability
and
so
medicaid,
which
is
largely
what
many
of
our
patients
are
use
as
their
provider
is.
AA
We
are
really
advocating
that
states
consider
leveraging
medicaid
to
directly
reimburse
because
the
we
have
a
code
for
violence
prevention
services,
so
just
important
to
name
and
mention
you
so
some
of
the
services
that
we
have
here.
The
wraparound
services
include
housing,
victim
services,
compensation,
safety,
planning,
working
on
retaliation
and
crisis
support,
often
in
partnership
with
street
outreach
efforts,
educational
assistance,
job
placement
and
the
list
continues:
mental
health
and
counseling
services,
and
it's
so
critical
that
violence
intervention
specialists
are
part
of
this
interdisciplinary
team.
AA
Again,
not
only
at
the
bedside
within
the
hospital
should
there
be
severe
wounds
and
require
a
long-term
stay,
but
in
particular
post-discharge
right
so
looking
at
the
needs
of
patients
over
the
months
and
years
that
they
need
to
recover
and
continue
again
to
reimagine
their
goals
in
their
lives.
Next
slide,
please.
AA
So
there
are
a
number
of
different
structures
for
hospital-based
violence,
intervention
programs,
the
community
health
workers,
the
violence
prevention
professionals
that
are
a
part
of
the
staff
can
be
hired
by
the
hospital.
So
when
you
often
hear
folks
say,
hospital
based,
the
staff
are
employed
by
the
hospital
and
there
are
community
partners
that
are,
of
course,
involved
for
referrals
to
help
with
training.
But
but
again,
the
violence
prevention
professionals
are
are
hired
within
the
hospital
there's
hospital
linked
where
a
cbo
employs
the
hospital.
AA
Excuse
me,
the
violence,
prevention
professionals
and
there
is
a
partnership
with
the
hospital
and
so
those
staff
that
have
gained
access
to
the
hospital.
There's
a
clear
mou
or
a
agreement,
data
sharing
an
opportunity
for
staff
to
have
badges
and
and
and
access
to
the
trauma
rules
to
ensure
that
their
seamless
care.
AA
When
someone
comes
to
the
hospital
and
then
there's
hybrid,
a
hybrid,
might
include
a
mixture
of
both
where
there
might
be
violence,
prevention
professionals
who
are
hired
by
the
hospital,
as
well
as
a
partnership
with
the
cbo
and
we're
seeing
while
most
of
our
programs
sit
either
in
the
hospital-based
or
hospital-linked
approach.
We
are
seeing
a
over
the
years,
an
emergence
of
this
hybrid
model
and
they
all
have
pros
and
cons,
but
the
essential
work
of
an
interdisciplinary
team
that
supports
the
needs
of
violently
injured
patients
remains
next
slide.
AA
Please
I'm
going
to
talk
now
about
some
of
the
the
underlying
research
that
supports
this
work.
There
have
been
10
randomized,
controlled
trials
that
focus
on
hospital-based
violence
intervention.
AA
We
know
that
we
have
not
received
the
level
of
investment
that
we
need
as
a
field
for
understanding
all
the
different
ways
to
understand
violence.
Oh
I
see
there's
some
apologies.
There's
some
lag
in
the
in
the
slide.
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
we
so
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
a
few
of
the
randomized
control
trials.
AA
Just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
the
evidence
base,
but
I
think
there
is
always
room
for
more
and
I
invite
the
the
city
to
in
and
think
about
its
own
ways
of
evaluating
and
supporting
programs
understand
the
power
of
the
work
itself.
So
I'm
gonna
talk
about
a
few
studies,
one
that
was
one
what
very
well
known
and
cited
study
that
was
conducted
actually
by
a
board
member
that
focuses
on
baltimore.
AA
They
found
that
their
patients
were
four
times
less
likely
to
be
convicted
of
a
violent
crime
which
represents.
You
know
over
a
million
dollars
in
savings
looking
particularly
at
incarceration
costs
and
four
times
more
likely
to
be
employed
at
program
completion.
I
I'm
so
sorry.
I
see
that
there's
a
lag
just
continue
moving.
It
looks
like
there's
some
sort
of
discrepancy
in
the
slide
deck
in
chicago.
There
was
a
randomized
controlled
trial
that
found
a
reduction
in
repeat
injury.
AA
So
a
control
group
again
a
group
that
didn't
have
any
intervention.
They
saw
a
20
re-injury
rate,
whereas
those
who
participated
in
an
hvip
there
was
only
eight
percent,
a
re-injury
rate,
so
some
really
significant
work.
That's
been
done.
AA
I
am
going
to
pass
things
over
to
ann
marks
to
continue
talking
about
the
specific
work
in
oakland
and
the
role
hvips
play,
not
only
in
in
the
program
but
again
as
an
interconnected,
larger
violence
reduction
strategy
that
the
city
has
taken
on
for
many
years,
passing
things
over
and
just
continue
to
advance
slides.
I
think
you'll
you'll
see
and.
AB
Great
all
right
yeah.
Thank
you
appreciate
that.
So
thank
you
so
much
to
to
the
council
for
inviting
us
for
josh
being
such
a
great
partner
to
fatima
for
being
such
an
inspirational
leader.
I
am
thrilled
to
be
here,
particularly
you
know,
in
front
of
this
body.
AB
I
am
an
appointed
member
to
oakland's
reimagining
public
safety
task
force,
and
so
you
know
we
we
draw
a
lot
of
inspiration
and
give
a
lot
of
credit
to
to
the
way
that
you
are
considering
these
issues
and
so
that
that
means
a
lot
to
me
coming
from
oakland,
I
understand
a
little
bit
about
the
process
that
you've
been
in,
which
is
sort
of
learning
from
other
places
and
things
that
they've
done.
AB
So
I
thought
I'd
kind
of
lay
out
sort
of
you
know
what
I
call
a
tale
of
two
cities
right,
which
is
ceasefire
ceasefire.
You
know
meant
one
thing
in
boston:
it
meant
another
thing
in
chicago.
The
meetings
were
so
different
that
now
we
don't
even
use
the
term
ceasefire
right.
Boston
now
calls
it.
You
know
group
violence,
reduction
and,
or
you
know,
folks,
deterrence
and
chicago
ceasefire
now
says:
that's
cure
violence
and
and
they
are
different
models,
but
they
share
a
lot
of
similarities.
AB
It's
about
identifying
people
that
we
think
are
most
likely
to
be
involved
or
at
risk
and
using
you
know,
credible
messengers
from
the
community
and
I
would
say
the
the
difference
primarily
is
you
know.
One
model
is
very
aligned
and
coordinating
with
law
enforcement,
and
the
other
model
is
very
intentionally
completely
separated
from
law
enforcement.
And
so
I
think
those
are
two
approaches
and
they
seem
you
know
pretty
diametrically
opposed,
and
I
would
guess
from
the
the
conversations
that
I
heard
here
earlier
today.
AB
You
know
that
people
fall
very
starkly
on
both
sides
of
that.
But
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
I
just
kind
of
want
to
talk
about.
You
know
not
to
tell
these
two
cities,
but
the
tale
of
the
town,
which
is,
of
course,
what
we
call
oakland,
which
is
that
you
know
we're
open
to
doing
a
little
bit
of
everything,
and
it
sounds
like
you
might
be
too,
and
so
you
know
our
as
a
city.
AB
I
was
working
for
the
city
of
oakland
at
the
time
when
voters
passed
a
measure
that
was
a
basically
a
parcel
tax
and
a
parking
tax
to
fund
the
police
to
and
to
fund
violence
prevention,
and
just
a
little
bit
of
history
is
that
there
was
actually
a
an
all
police
measure
that
failed
and
there
was
an
all
services.
You
know,
prevention
and
services
measure
that
failed,
and
it
was
when
the
size
kind
of
came
together
right
that
we
got
to
something
that
was.
AB
You
know
that
passed
and
sort
of
set
the
tone
for
what
you
know.
Our
path
was
going
to
be,
which
was
a
little
bit
of
column,
a
and
a
little
bit
of
column
b.
AB
So
if
you
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
I
think
one
thing
that's
unique,
obviously
in
in
oakland
is
that
you
know
not
only
are
we
able
to
fund
a
lot
of
things,
but
we
actually
have
this
organization
youth
alive,
which
is
where
I
you
know
eagerly
jumped
to
when
I,
when
I
left
city
government
and
what's
unique
about
youth
alive,
is
that
we've
been
around
since
1991
so
for
30
years
and
have
been
an
anchor
organization
for
for
our
town,
providing
prevention,
intervention
and
healing
I'm
not
going
to
give
you
all
the
details
of
what
we
do,
and
I
think
you
heard
a
little
bit
that
you
know
one
of
the
things
we
do
is
we.
AB
We
we're
the
first
hospital-based
violence
intervention
program,
but
but
I
kind
of
want
to
give
you
a
sense
of
the
kinds
of
things
we
do,
so
you
can
get
a
sense
of
how
this
fits
into
a
strategy
for
for
a
city
so,
on
the
prevention
end,
our
first
prevention
program.
Our
first
program
was
based
up
with
a
group
of
young
people
in
a
high
school
class
at
a
high
school.
AB
That's
in
an
area
where
there
had
been
and
continued
to
be,
but
particularly
then,
a
great
number
of
shootings
involving
young
people,
and
so
those
young
people
said
what
can
we
do
to
basically
become
peacemakers?
How
do
we
talk
to
our
peers
about
that?
How
do
we,
you
know,
talk
to
you
know
the
government,
the
stakeholders,
the
elected
officials,
to
change
the
laws
that
are
impacting
and
bringing
guns
into
our
community.
How
do
we
help
people
resist
when
they're
being
recruited
into
a
gang?
AB
You
know
talk
to
our
peers
about
it,
so
that
became
what
we
call
teens
on
target.
That
became
our
first
prevention
program,
so
we're
still
investing
in
youth
leadership
and
and
violence
prevention
and
advocacy
work
on
the
intervention
end.
We
do
a
lot
of
things
related
to
intervention.
You
know
re-entry
case
management,
relocation
etc.
But
you
know
it
all
started
with
hospitals
and
it
started
with
this
gentleman
in
the
middle
sherman
spears.
AB
He
actually
ended
up
in
the
wheelchair.
You
see
there
as
a
result
of
being
shot
as
a
young
man,
and
it
was
a
turning
point
in
his
life,
where
he
decided
that,
rather
than
retaliate
or
sort
of
you
know,
give
information
to
people
that
they
cared
about
who
wanted
to
retaliate
on
his
behalf.
AB
He
wanted
to
stop
the
violence
with
him
and
and
became
you
know
what
we've
heard
called
a
credible
messenger
or
an
intervention
specialist,
and
so
he
actually
found
his
way
to
youth
alive
started
working
with
our
young
people
on
our
prevention
program
and
then
said:
I'm
just
gonna
start
visiting
people
in
the
hospital
and
so
from
his
own
experience
about
how
pivotal
that
moment
in
his
life
was
he
was
able
to
influence
others
who
were
at
that
same
critical
moment,
and
so
that's
how
hospital-based
violence
intervention
began.
AB
You
know
the
time
when
he
was
doing
this
in
the
early
90s.
There
wasn't
a
million
programs
in
oakland.
There
wasn't
a
bunch
of
funding
right,
so
you
know
he
was
the
counselor
and
the
case
manager
and
the
intervention
specialist
and
the
violence
interrupter
and
the
everything
right,
because
that's
that's
how
these
programs
start.
They
start
with
an
individual,
not
with
a
model.
AB
They
start
with
people,
you
know
and
then,
as
time
went
on,
we
developed
a
violence
interruption
program
it
within
our
in
our
work
as
well,
which
I
know
is
another
model
that
you've
looked
at
and
then
finally
the
healing
program.
So
we
think
that
part
of
doing
intervention
in
a
public
health
model
is
not
just
preventing
violence
before
it
happens
or
intervening
in
moments
of
crisis,
but
that
you
have
to
also
heal
the
trauma.
AB
The
violence
leaves
in
its
wake,
or
else
it
leads
to
further
violence,
and
I
think
fatsuma
did
a
really
compelling
job
of
pointing
out
right.
How
frequently
people
who
are
victims
of
violence
will
become
victims
of
violence
again,
because
of
the
of
the
way
that
trauma
sets
you
on
a
on
a
life
path.
That
can
be
dangerous
if
you
aren't
supported.
So
this
is
a
picture
of
of
miss
marilyn
washington
harris
holding
a
picture
of
her
son
qaddafi
washington.
AB
He
was
murdered
still
an
unsolved
homicide
in
august
of
2000
and
she
like
sherman's
and
said,
I'm
not
gonna.
This
was
a
horrible
experience.
AB
No
one
was
here
to
support
me,
and
so
I'm
gonna
take
this
experience
and
and
and
use
it
to
make
sure
no
one
else
has
this
experience
again,
so
she
began
visiting
people,
family
members
after
homicides,
and
so
this
is
an
example
of
of
some
work
that
we
do
that
actually
coordinates
pretty
closely
with
law
enforcement,
because
that's
how
we
get
next
of
kin,
information,
notifications
and
that
kind
of
thing.
AB
So
so
we
sort
of
thread
the
needle
of
you
know
communicating
and
working
with
law
enforcement,
as
well
as
providing
other
types
of
programs.
So
that's
sort
of
the
big
picture
about
who
we
are
and
all
the
different
ways
we
fit
into
the
city's
overall
strategies
when
it
comes
to
violence
intervention.
If
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide,
we
talked
about
results
a
little
bit.
AB
AB
So
we
didn't
have
the
ability
to
say
you
won't
get
the
services
and
you
will,
but
we
were
able
to
do
a
a
different
type
of
study
where
we
were
comparison
to
to
similar
populations,
and
so
we
were
able
to
find
that
people
were
unlikely
to
be
re-injured
if
they
were
in
the
program,
and
we
found
that
they
were
much
less
likely
much
less
likely
to
be
arrested
if
they
were
in
the
program
so
similar
to
the
studies
that
that
fatima
pointed
out.
AB
The
next
thing
next
slide,
please
I
I
know
fatsuma
talked
about
this
a
little
bit,
but
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
who
these
workers
are
so
in
every
community.
You
know-
and
I
heard
some
of
this
actually
here
today-
that
there
are
people
who
are
you
know
I
would
call
them
indigenous
healers
right.
AB
There
are
people
who
are,
you
know
like
miss
maryland,
like
sherman,
who
have
something
in
them
that
tells
them
that
they
can
make
a
change
and
they
can
help
other
people,
and
so
you
know,
I
think,
the
the
the
key
is
right.
How
do
we
take
advantage
of
people
with
these
natural
talents
and
with
this
natural
influence
and
and
and
plug
them
into
systems
and
programs
that
that
can
take
advantage
of
those
skills?
AB
And
I
think
you
know
josh
and,
and-
and
you
know,
their
team
has
done
an
incredible
job
right
with
next
up,
and
so
I
think
that
that's
an
example
of
it,
but
these
workers
are
paraprofessionals,
so
they're,
often
people
that
are
new
to
the
social
services,
maybe
their
first.
You
know
social
service,
job
or
they're
new
to
public
health,
but
but
they're
not
new
to
these
issues
right
they're,
not
new
to
violence
and
incarceration.
AB
These
are
things
that
that
have
been
in
their
lives,
and
so
that's
why
we
call
them
credible
messengers,
because
other
people
know
that
they
know
what
they're
talking
about
because
of
their
life
experience.
And
then
you
know
our
role
is
to
help
them
bring
those
relationships
and
that
expertise
and
formalize
it
a
little
bit.
So
you
know
in
the
health
field,
we
might
say
it's
something
like
a
case
manager,
it's
something
like
a
community
health
worker,
it's
something
like
a
peer
specialist,
but
it's
actually
something
different.
AB
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
fosuma
mentioned
this,
but
there's
actually
now
in
the
healthcare
taxonomy,
which
is
to
say
in
the
list
of
all
the
health
professions.
There
is
a
a
prevention
professional,
particularly
a
violence,
prevention,
professional,
which
is
you
know,
someone
who
has
this
this
natural
expertise
to
to
do
this
work.
So
that's
that's
who
these
workers
are.
So
I
know,
there's
gonna,
be
questions
and
I've
talked
quite
a
bit
and
probably
quite
fast,
so
I'll
just
go
to
my
last
slide.
AB
If
you
don't
mind
which
is
to
say
just
you
know,
these
are
some
humble
reflections
from
oakland
to
minneapolis.
I
I
want
to
stress
that
hospital-based
violence,
intervention
programs
work
they
they
are
effective.
They
keep
people
from
getting
injured
again,
they
keep
other
people
from
from
retaliating.
AB
They
they
work,
they
save
lives,
but
they
also
save
money,
and
so
there
is
really
a
path
to
to
financial
sustainability
for
hospital-based
violence.
Intervention
program-
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
most
unique
things,
because
many
things
save
money,
but
they
don't
save
money
for
the
for
the
entity
that
they
save
money.
You
know
that
right
that
that
is
investing
in
it,
but
when
you,
you
know,
are
responsible
for
for
the
health
and
safety
of
folks
and
you're
saving
your
hospitals,
money,
it
can
save
you
money.
AB
The
next
thing
is
that
outreach
strategies
are
complementary
to
hospital-linked
outreach.
So
I
didn't
go
in
great
detail
into
this,
but
if
you're
thinking
about
an
outreach
strategy,
there's
there's
a
component
for
both.
So
in
our
case
in
oakland,
you
might
have
a
shooting-
and
there
is
someone
who
goes
to
the
hospital-
and
maybe
our
first
take
is
we're
looking
at
immediate
safety
assessment,
retaliation
issues
and
we
bring
in
say
a
violence,
interruption
team
to
mediate.
Any
things
that's
rising
from
that.
AB
Second
thing
we
might
do
is
have
the
intervention
specialist
from
the
hospital-based
violence,
intervention
program,
kind
of
build,
a
long-term
relationship
and
support
the
victim
and
their
family
on
sort
of
recovery
at
a
path
to
sustainability
treatment.
A
third
thing
we
might
do
is
bring
in
a
mental
health
team
to
support
them
with
long-term
counseling.
So
there's
different
elements
right,
but
they're
they're
compatible
they're,
not
they're,
not
competitive,
because
they
it's
about
different
needs
along
the
pathway.
AB
You
know
between
prevention,
to
intervention
to
healing
the
third
thing
is
just
to
remind
you
that
you
know
the
reason
that
we're
able
to
do
some
things
we
can
do
in
oakland
is
because
we
have
a
dedicated
funding,
source
and,
and
then
the
last
thing
I
won't
belabor,
because
I
think
I
talked
about
it,
but
it's
really
important
to
to
recognize
and
then
create
a
pathway
to
employment
and
sustainable.
You
know
financial
sustainability
for
people
that
have
these
innate.
AB
You
know
these
incredible
talents
that
are
already
doing
this
work
in
the
community.
So
with
that
being
said,
just
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
I
really
appreciate
it.
N
N
So
since
2016
next
step
has
served
over
450
participants
at
hcmc
in
north
memorial
and
we've
got
some
numbers
on
sort
of
hospital
recidivism
or
returned
to
the
hospital
with
a
same
or
similar
injury
during
the
first
year
of
services.
Now,
obviously,
this
is
very
much
an
apples
to
oranges
comparison.
You
heard
some
recidivism
numbers
earlier
from
around
30
to
40
percent.
That
was
over
a
five-year
period.
N
This
is
just
one
year,
so
it's
not
a
direct
comparison
by
any
means,
but
just
for
some
reference
in
that
first
year,
only
three
percent
of
the
initial
participants
came
back
with
the
same
or
similar
injury
which
really
given
the
fact
that
we
understand
that
violence
is
cyclical
and
hurt.
People
tend
to
often
be
hurt
again.
N
We
really
see
as
a
really
sort
of
compelling
demonstration
of
the
impact
of
this
kind
of
work
and
the
other
piece
that
we
talk
about
a
lot
with
this
work
is
just
sort
of
the
idea
of
changing
people's
stories
and
changing
their
narratives.
The
actual
sort
of
the
tag
line
of
next
step
is
change.
Your
story
change
your
life
and
it's
really
built
on
this
framework
of
what
we
call
narrative
medicine.
AC
Hello,
everyone
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
welcome
control
yeah.
Thank
you
for
having
me
I'm
kentrell,
galloway,
I'm
the
program
manager
for
the
next
step
program.
First
of
all,
I'll
just
talk
about
a
little
bit
of
the
overall
impact
that
we've
had
especially
and
covet,
especially
from
september
to
december.
AC
We
were
able
to
help
29
families
with
rental
assistance
so
that
they
wouldn't
lose
their
housing.
They
were
also
able
to
help
62
families
with
food
served
for
food
needs
that
was
basically
taken
from
the
cub
foods
and
spending
around
250
on
each
family,
and
that
was
on
a
monthly
basis
from
that
september
to
the
december.
You
know
helping
them
out
with
foods,
because
again
they
were
lost
hours
or
didn't,
have
a
job
due
to
covet.
AC
Also
we're
able
to
help
69
families
with
you
know,
clothing
for
their
kids
during
that
time
period,
and
then
also
with
the
distance
learning
that
was
taking
place,
we
were
able
to
hand
out
laptops
to
at
least
28
families
so
that
their
kids
could
be
part
of
the
distant
learning
or
the
family
need
to
work
work
from
home.
AC
Young
man's
mindset
and
not
in
a
young
man,
built
a
relationship
with
larry
and
that
enabled
the
young
man
to
let
the
excuse
me
let
the
legal
process
take
place
and
start
focusing
on
hell
himself
and
figuring
out
the
next
steps
that
he
needed
to
do
so
that
he
could
move
on
in
his
life.
AC
N
N
We
so
appreciate
the
inspiration
from
youth
alive
and
from
ann
who's
been
really
just
a
leader
and
a
pioneer
in
this
field
for
so
long,
and
we
really
appreciate
the
work
of
control
and
control's
team
at
nextup
team
of
violence,
intervention
specialists
who
are
really
out
there
every
day
doing
this
work,
none
of
what
we
do
at
the
city
around
next
step
would
be
possible
with
without
any
of
those
folks.
So
we
really
appreciate
that
partnership
and
we
are
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
any
folks
on
the
committee
may
have
josh.
AC
And
then
the
other
thing
I
said,
the
impact
about
the
program
is
that
we
make
the
victims
who
come
to
the
hospital
feel
value
again
and
bring
that
human
humanoid
humanize
them,
because
you
know
when
they
come
into
the
hospital.
There's
a
lot
of
stigma
attached
to
people
who
are
victims
of
these
type
of
violent
crimes.
So
we
just
make
them
feel
valued
again
if
their
life
is
valued
and
you
bring
that
human
peace
back
to
them.
And
that
goes
a
long
way.
B
Thank
you
for
that
additional
information.
I
think
that
that's
a
very
important
point
to
make
and
thank
you
everybody
for
being
here
for
being
a
part
of
this
presentation.
B
This
is
really
critical
work
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
appreciate
is
being
able
to
visually
demonstrate
where
a
hospital-based
intervention
such
as
this
fits
into
a
broader
violence,
prevention
and
public
safety
ecosystem,
and-
and
I
think
that
it's
it's
important
for
us
to
be
able
to
understand
how
all
of
these
pieces
fit
together
and
that
there
is
an
overall
strategy
within
the
public
health
approach
to
public
safety
that
connects
these
different
strategies
that
moves
us
towards
a
fuller,
more
robust,
effective
public
safety
ecosystem.
B
So
I'm
very
grateful
for
the
expertise.
I
am
a
huge
nerd
for
data
and
I
appreciate
the
amount
of
evaluations
that
have
been
done
on
the
this
particular
approach.
That
has
helped
me
feel
far
more
comfortable
as
a
council
member
advocating
for
funding
related
to
this
program
not
only
to
permanently
fund
it,
but
then
also
to
scale
it
up
across
the
city.
It
has
helped
me
feel
much
more
confident
in
in
in
taking
that
stance
and
bringing
those
resources
to
this
work.
B
Right,
well,
I'm
not
seeing
any.
I
will
just
also
I'll
just
close
with
saying
that
I
really
appreciate
this
series
of
work
around
evidence-based
violence
reduction.
Much
to
josh's
point.
You
know
we're
looking
at
evidence-based
models
that
are
deeply
local
and
are
rooted
in
the
local
community
and
being
able
to
thread
that
needle
that
is
a
very
special
talent
and
skill
that
our
office
of
violence
prevention
brings
to
our
to
our
city
enterprise.
So
thank
you
to
sasha,
josh
and
the
team
for
being
able
to
do
that.
I'll.
B
Just
say
that
you
know
I
look
at
youth,
youth,
alive
and
javi,
and
just
really
am
I'm
inspired
by
the
work
that
you
all
do
and
and
hope
that
and
an
aspire
to
be
able
to
to
have
the
kind
of
impact
that
you
all
are
having
around
the
country
and
in
your
in
your
town.
I
do
have
council
member
gordon
in
queue.
D
Thank
you
and
sorry
for
jumping
in
a
little
bit
at
the
end
of
the
discussion,
but
I
really
appreciate
this
work
really
appreciate,
learning
more
about
it
and
really
appreciate
our
health
department's
leadership
in
bringing
this
forward
and
expanding
it.
D
I
think
we
actually
had
the
partnership
of
a
credible
emergency
room
doctor
at
hcmc
when
this
all
started
too,
and
I
wish
I
could
remember
his
name
as
well,
but
a
willingness
to
take
it
on
and
we've
expanded
our
next
step
program
to
north
memorial
too,
and
I
was
wondering
if
we
were
gonna
move
it
into
abbott
northwestern
soon
or
I
think
there
were
plans
to
expand
it
and
we'd
had
some,
and
I
may
have
missed
that
if
it
came
up
in
this
presentation.
But
that's
just
my
last
question.
D
I
mostly
just
want
to
thank
our
outside
experts
too,
for
coming
in
and
giving
us
a
better
picture
and
understanding
of
of
how
that
works
too.
N
Yeah,
chair
cunningham,
councilmember
gordon.
Yes,
I
appreciate
that
question.
We
are
on
track
to
expand
dab
at
northwestern.
Soon
we
were
fortunate
to
have
funding
included
in
the
2021
budget
to
allow
for
expansion,
and
we
are
actively
planning,
I
believe,
we're
actually
in
the
hiring
phase
right
now
for
the
violence
intervention
specialist
who
will
be
stationed
at
northwestern.
So
I
would
expect
that
we
will
have
services
on
the
ground
there
within
you
know
a
month
or
two
thanks.
So
much
you're
very
welcome.
B
Great,
thank
you
so
much
and
I
am
excited
to
see
that
expansion
we
we've
been
fighting
for
programs
like
this,
since
the
particularly
I,
since
I've
been
able
to
step
into
this
role.
I've
been
very
excited
to
be
a
champion
of
these
kind
of
efforts.
So
thank
you
so
much
josh
sasha
as
well
the
director
of
the
office
of
violence
prevention,
and
thank
you
to
fatima
and
anne
for
being
here.
B
B
I
will
direct
the
clerk
to
to
file
this
presentation,
as
well
as
the
presentation
related
to
what
was
the
study
of
injuries
from
the
less
lethal
weapons.
It's
been
a
long
long
day.
My
apologies
everybody,
so
I
will
be
having
us
delay
the
the
covet
19
update
to
next
cycle.
Mr
to
the
clerk,
do
we
need
to
have
a
motion
to
delay
that
presentation.
H
Chair
cunningham,
I
I
do
think
it
would.
It
would
make
most
sense
if
the
body
took
a
a
quick,
formal
action
to
postpone
that
item
to
the
meeting
on
march
18th.
B
Great
thank
you
for
that.
So
with
that
I'll
make
a
motion
to
delay
the
covet
19
update
to
the
public
health
and
safety
presentation
on
march
18th,
and
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the.
D
U
B
B
Thank
you
so
much,
and
thank
you
to
everybody
for
your
flexibility.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
some
more
folks
who
are
here
as
guest
presenters,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
that
space
for
us
to
be
able
to
get
into
the
conversation
with
our
guests
from
the
state
patrol
aviation.
B
So
next
up
we
have
receiving
and
filing
a
presentation
on
community
safety.
We
have
commander
jason
case
with
us,
as
well
as
representatives
from
the
state
patrol
aviation
who
who
will
give
us
updates
and
answer
some
questions
about
helicopter
usage
so
commander
the
floor
is
yours.
Welcome.
Thank
you
for
your
patience
today.
Good.
AD
Afternoon,
chair
cunningham
thanks,
you
can
go
ahead
and
flip
to
the
the
next
slide.
I
know
we're
kind
of
long
on
time
here
so
I'll
make
a
lot
of
my
comments
brief.
I
do
have
our
partners
here
from
the
state
patrol,
so
they'll
be
able
to
chime
in
with
any
of
the
technical
questions
that
may
come
up
related
to
aviation,
and
I,
as
in
past
presentations,
have
scott
wilfred
and
austin
rice,
our
crime
analyst,
to
go
over
the
specifics
on
crime,
transitions
and
data.
AD
So
with
that
said,
we'll
go
ahead
and
jump
right
into
the
next
slide
and
I'll
hand
this
over
to
scott
to
or
I'm
sorry
to
austin,
to
discuss
the
particulars
on
the
stats.
A
Thank
you
commander
next
slide.
Please
next
slide.
A
Okay,
so
looking
at
our
updated
metrics
for
crime
reported
to
the
minneapolis
police
department
through
march
1st,
homicide
is
up
37.5
percent
up
just
or
really
three
incidents
from
eight
at
this
time.
Last
year,
sitting
at
11
through
march
1st
2021
rape
is
down
14.6
percent
compared
to
the
same
time
frame
last
year.
A
A
However,
also
kind
of
within
this
category
is
our
shooting
victims,
which
are
up
as
my
colleague,
scott
wolford,
will
touch
on
here
in
a
minute
or
two
next
slide.
Please
looking
at
property
crime
burglary
is
up
five
point:
seven
percent
larceny
down
twenty
nine
eight
point:
nine
percent
subset
within
that
thefron
motor
vehicle,
which
includes
theft
of
motor
vehicle
parts
down
8.9
percent.
We
will
dive
into
that
more
in
detail
later,
to
show
some
of
the
differences
within
even
that
subset.
A
The
subsets,
within
the
subset
and
auto
theft
up
point
three
percent
from
this
time
in
2020,
it
should
be
noted
that
2020
we
saw
a
pretty
sharp
increase
from
our
previous
four
year
average
as
well,
so
2020
and
2021
are
remaining
anomalies
with
elevated,
auto
theft
levels,
an
arson
up
slightly
two
incidents
making
for
an
18.2
percent
increase
for
the
year
next
slide.
Please,
and
I
will
actually
turn
it
over
to
my
colleague,
scott
wolford,
to
discuss
violent
crimes.
AE
All
right
and
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide
and
next
slide.
Please
all
right!
This
slide
talks
to
shooting
victims.
On
the
left
hand,
side
of
the
table
is
the
updated
metrics
through
february
1st
through
march
1st,
and
that
basically
is
the
month
that
we're
looking
back
to
and
in
2021
we
had
28
victims
compared
to
in
the
same
time
frame
in
2020
15,
with
a
previous,
four-year
average
of
16
victims.
AE
Just
to
note
this
concludes
non-fatal
and
fatal
gunshot
wound
victims,
I'm
looking
for
the
whole
year
so
far,
we're
at
54
compared
to
26
with
a
four-year
average
of
32
and
that's
a
one-year
percent
change
of
108
victims.
AE
AE
So
far
this
year,
83
percent
have
been
male,
17
have
been
female,
81
have
been
black,
15
percent
have
been
white,
which
also
includes
hispanic
and
four
percent
are
unknown,
and
the
two
top
age
groups
that
we're
seeing
gunshot
wound
victims
for
are
the
age
groups
of
17
and
30
through
31,
which
is
22
of
the
total
and
then
also
17
to
21
years
old,
which
is
20
of
the
total
next
slide.
AE
Please-
and
this
is
kind
of
a
this-
is
new
since
the
last
time
we
presented
more
of
a
rolling
trend
graph
like
the
shot,
spotter
one-
I
think
council
member
fletcher
said
he
liked
this.
So
we
added
a
few
more
of
these
in
here,
you
can
kind
of
see
as
you
go
from
left
to
right.
You
have
2018
2019,
2020
and
then
so
far
through
the
eighth
week
of
2021.
AE
You
can
see
the
average
number
of
victims
by
week
listed
there
in
the
chart
in
the
box.
2018
had
4.7
2019
at
5.2
and
2020
had
10.4
victims
of
gunshot
wound
per
week
and
so
far
for
the
first
eight
weeks
of
2021,
we
are
at
6.8,
so
we're
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
2019
and
2020
numbers.
So
far
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
AE
This
is
the
shot
spot
or
activation
trends,
as
we
kind
of
go
through
time
here
this.
In
order
to
have
it
detailed
enough
to
see
it
basically
runs
through
august
4th
through
march
1st.
AE
The
top
graph
is
the
activations,
and
the
bottom
graph
is
the
number
of
rounds
it
has
detected
for
the
same
time
period
and
then
on
the
bottom
there's
a
graph
or
a
chart.
I
should
say
that
talks
to
the
average
rounds
per
week,
the
average
activations
per
week
and
then
the
average
rounds
per
activation
by
week
for
2019,
2020
and
2021.
AE
So
you
get
a
more
comprehensive
approach
at
what
we're
looking
at
historically
and
what
we're
seeing
through
august,
up
up
until
march
1st
in
2019
I'll
just
touch
on
that
average
activation.
Just
as
an
example.
In
2019
we
saw
an
average
number
of
activations
of
35
per
week
in
2020.
It
was
up
to
98
and
so
far
in
2021,
we're
kind
of
again
back
down
to
the
middle
of
that
and
with
66..
AE
You
can
move
on
to
the
next
slide.
Please
talking
about
guns
recovered.
So
far
this
year
we've
the
mpd
has
recovered
128
guns
as
evidence
and
that's
a
35
decrease
from
2020
with
196
guns.
AE
So
that's
kind
of
started
off
with
right
away
from
the
beginning
of
the
year,
and
so
far
this
year
by
precinct
in
the
in
the
table
below
you
can
see
the
percent
of
the
total
on
the
number
of
guns,
the
for
the
fourth
precinct
being
the
highest
with
38
percent
of
the
guns
recovered
followed
by
the
third
precinct,
which
is
26,
and
then
there
were
10
guns
recovered
outside
of
the
city
limits
to
move
on
to
the
next
slide.
AE
Talking
about
robbery
updated
two
one,
two
three
one.
So
there
have
been
27
carjacking
incidents
with
a
year-to-date
total
of
71,
which
is
compared
to
the
same
time
frame
in
2020,
a
209
increase
and
kind
of
just
bumping
down
to
the
first
bullet
there,
just
as
a
reminder
that
we
started
tracking
carjacking
as
a
a
subset
of
robbery,
essentially
a
loss
of
a
vehicle
that
was
stolen
up
in
september
of
2020.,
going
back
up
to
the
robbery
of
businesses.
AE
In
the
time
frame
of
february
1st,
through
march
1st,
there
were
13
robberies
of
business
and
a
year-to-date
total
of
23
and
compared
to
2020
for
the
year-to-date
time
frame.
We're
have
a
44
increase
and
looking
across
all
robbery
categories,
there
were
113
in
the
since
february,
1
or
february
1st
to
march
1st.
AE
Year
to
date,
there
was
200
and
there's
been
290,
which
is
a
35
increase,
as
austin
mentioned,
a
couple
of
notes
about
the
the
robbery
increases.
67
percent
of
the
robberies
have
occurred
in
both
the
third
and
fifth
precincts
and
similarly
70
percent
of
all
the
carjacking
incidents
year-to-date
have
occurred
in
those
same
precincts.
AE
Talking
about
the
robberies
of
the
business,
there's
been
a
far
a
good
number
of
robberies
that
have
occurred
in
downtown
commercial
corridors
and
also
in
the
far
south
side
of
the
city
in
the
third
and
fifth
precincts
you
can
move
on
to
the
next
slide.
I.
AE
One
kind
of
a
longer
term
trend
you
can
to
put
in
perspective
what
we're
seeing
in
the
near
time
compared
to
years
past
in
2018,
2019,
2020
and
then
so
far
into
2021..
This
graph
definitely
shows
in
years
past
2018
2019,
especially
you
can
kind
of
see
a
very
seasonal
increase
in
the
summer
and
then
a
decrease
of
robberies
in
the
winter
months.
However,
moving
into
2020
into
2021
the
value
of
the
trough
of
the
seasonal
robbery
pattern
wasn't
as
pronounced.
AE
B
You
might
maybe
you
have
me
muted
scott.
I
want
to
jump
in
right,
quick
because
I
do
have
a
question
from
council
member
fletcher.
Oh.
B
X
No
problem,
can
we
go
back
a
few
slides.
I
actually
want
to
go
back
to
the
shot
spotter
graph.
X
There
we
go
yep
so.
AE
Last
week,
no,
I
don't
have
an
answer
for
that,
particularly
there
was
13
victims
of
gunshot
wound
last
week.
So
clearly
there
was,
you
know,
an
increase
in
both
shot,
spotter
and
shots
fired
and
gunshot
wound
victims.
But
beyond
that
I
there's
not.
I
would
have
to
look
into
that
more
and
kind
of
maybe
ask
a
few
other
people
that
know
a
little
bit
more
about
what
they're
seeing
out
on
the
street.
X
Yep
that
makes
sense,
and
then
I
think
I
might
have
been
even
on
the
previous
slide.
I
was
just
trying
to.
X
X
I
know
that
there's
a
reduction
in
staff
because
of
attrition,
so
that
might
be
an
explanation
for
it,
but
if
there's
more
shot,
spotter
activations,
if
there's
more
gun
activity
is,
is
more
of
that
going
unsolved
is
more
of
that
art.
Is
there
some
tactic
that
we're
not
doing
or
that
we've
changed
the
way,
we're
responding
to
gun
violence
in
a
way
that
the
occurrences
would
be
up,
but
the
guns
seized,
as
evidence
would
be
down.
AE
I
will
probably
defer
to
commander
case
regarding
that
question.
Just
just.
AD
Okay,
so,
okay,
I
think
the
answer
council
member
fletcher's
question
about
the
gun,
recoveries.
I
think,
there's
lots
of
different
variables
that
can
account
for
gun
recoveries
and,
for
example,
if
you
look
at
the
number
of
incidents
in
which
a
gun
was
recovered,
there
may
be
fewer
incidents,
but
we
had
maybe
an
incident
where
we
recovered
10
guns
as
as
part
of
a
search
warrant,
as
opposed
to
you
know
this
year.
Maybe
we
haven't
had
as
many
search
warrants
where
there
was
incidents
in
which
higher
numbers
of
guns
have
been
recovered.
AD
So
I
think
one
of
the
things
to
keep
in
mind
when
we
look
at
gun
recoveries.
It
is
something
that
we
monitor,
but
we
do
stretch
it
out,
so
we're
we're
more
interested
to
see
where
we
at
as
far
as
a
progression
throughout
the
year
and
then
kind
of
look
backwards.
As
far
as
are
we
doing
the
same
things
consistently
and
then
looking
at
the
types
of
stops
that
resulted
in
the
numbers
of
guns
being
recovered
or
the
types
of
activity
not
necessarily
a
stop.
So
does
that
make
sense?
AD
A
Okay,
we
will
jump
into
a
little
bit
more
of
a
fine-tuned.
Look
at
some
of
our
property
crime
trends
addressed
earlier,
looking
at
burglary.
So
when,
when
we
have
these,
especially
on
our
public
facing
dashboard,
we
have
the
category
of
burglary,
which
is,
of
course
a
ucr
part
one
crime
category,
but
there's
some
sub
sections
of
specific
offenses
within
those
categories,
and
one
of
the
important
things
to
look
at
in
burglary
is
while
we're
up
5.7
percent
total
for
this
category.
A
So
we've
actually
seen
a
slight
decrease
with
a
10
reduction
in
in
dwelling
burglaries,
so
residential
burglaries,
but
a
40.4
increase
in
business
burglaries
and
what
this
seems
to
be
targeting
actually
is
a
lot
of
our
restaurants
in
in
minneapolis,
in
all
areas
of
minneapolis
and
as
well
as
the
common
areas
or
communal
areas
of
apartment
buildings,
and
this
can
include
package
rooms,
common
parking
spaces,
especially
in
our
uptown
communities
and
downtown
communities,
as
well
as
within
the
burglary
of
dwelling
category.
A
Even
though
that's
down
10
an
interesting
emerging
trend
that
we're
definitely
keeping
a
close
eye
on
is
the
emerging
pattern
of
an
increase
in
burglaries
in
which
a
vehicle
is
stolen
and
it
seems
to
be
the
only
loss
listed
oftentimes
along
with
any
other
items
that
are
left
inside
the
car,
and
these
tend
to
be
actually
seeming
to
most
mostly
be
occurring
in
occupied
dwellings,
mostly
in
the
overnight
hours.
A
Offenders
are
taking
keys
that
are
left
in
in
common
areas
or
even
in
the
cars
themselves.
So,
just
worth
noting,
please
move
to
the
next
slide.
A
Another
category
I
wanted
to
dive
into
more
stuff
from
motor
vehicles,
and
this
has
certainly
been
in
the
news,
not
just
in
minneapolis
but
really
nationwide.
Regarding
catalytic
converter
thefts
so
far
this
year
we've
had
an
81.4
percent
increase
and
that's
actually,
even
on
top
of
the
fact
that
we
saw
in
2020.
A
This
trend
was
starting
to
emerge
to
be
more
problematic,
and
what
this
coincides
with
is
really
a
an
interesting
dynamic
with
the
market
value
of
the
precious
metals
found
inside
of
these
catalytic
converters
and
those
starting
to
increase
really
around
this
time
or
really
january
of
of
last
year.
2020
and
it
seems
to
really
be
opportunistic
and
it
really
emerged
even
pre
covid.
I've
seen
some
reports
suggest
that
covet
and
financial
stresses
have
driven
a
lot
of
this
increase.
A
But
it's
definitely
worth
noting
that
we
here
in
minneapolis
saw
this
increase
before
the
hardships
that
were
brought
on
by
the
pandemic
and
also
worth
noting
since
february
1st
or
not
february,
1st
january,
1st
of
2020
just
to
show
that
the
the
specificity
in
the
types
of
cars
that
offenders
are
targeting.
A
Since
the
first
of
2020,
we've
had
20
vehicles,
victimized,
two
or
more
times
through
mid-february
of
this
year,
and
when
we
look
at
this
from
just
the
financial
strain
as
well,
it's
it's
into
the
thousands
of
dollars
to
repair
a
lot
of
these
losses
to
people's
cars
and
we're
seeing
three
standout
makes
and
models
being
targeted
across
the
city
and
those
are
toyota
priuses,
honda,
crvs
and
honda
elements,
and
these
are
most
likely
based
on
the
makeup
of
the
precious
metals
that
are
inside,
of
the
catalytic
converters
and
and
also
worth
noting,
is
theft
of
license
plates.
A
A
So,
looking
at
auto
theft,
we
have
had
769,
auto
thefts
this
year
in
2021
versus
759
in
2020.
But
what's
most
notable
in
this
trend
is
the
prevalence
of
vehicles
that
are
stolen
while
left
running
unattended.
A
This
trend
is
primarily
being
driven
by
victims,
warming,
their
vehicles
in
front
of
their
residents
and
also
amongst
delivery
drivers,
leaving
their
vehicles
running
while
either
picking
up
orders
or
dropping
off
orders
to
people's
homes
or
businesses.
B
If
I
can
jump
in
right,
quick,
austin,
absolutely
so
if
we
could
go
back
to
slides
to
the
yes,
so
you
know
thinking
about
crime
prevention
from
like
an
environmental
criminological
perspective,
what
are
the
ways
to
be
able
to
harden
the
targets
around
catalytic
converters
in
particular
since
in
in
you
know,
license
plates.
That's
a
huge
issue
too,
like
what
are
ways
for
us
to
like
for
everyday
residents
to
be
able
to
actually
like
harden
that
target.
So
it's
not
because
you
know
it's
it's
a
crime
of
opportunity
right.
B
A
You
know
it's
really
a
tough,
a
tough
question,
especially
considering
the
mo
of
this
specific
crime.
There
are
opportunities
or
even
products
out
there
I
mean
a
lot
of
auto
body.
Shops
are
installing
skid
plates
or
protection
plates,
but
that's
obviously
at
the
cost
of
the
consumer
or
the
residents
and
really
what
what
people
can
mostly
do
to.
A
A
That's
not
normal
behavior
to
be
occurring
and
is
likely
indicative
of
somebody
looking
for
these
catalytic
converters
and
part
of
what's
so
troubling
about
this
is
there's
not
a
whole
lot
that
people
can
do
is
people
park
on
the
street
every
day,
people
own
these.
These
makes
and
models
in
in
very
large
quantities
and,
as
we
see
they're
so
desirable
that
many
people
have
been
victimized
twice
and
it's
just
it's
a
great
expense,
and
I
would
be
remiss
to
not
mention
that
I
do
know.
A
I
believe
there's
some
legislation
being
talked
about
at
the
state
level
to
regulate
the
ability
of
auto
bodies
or
not
auto
body
shops,
but
scrap
metal
yards
to
purchase
these
catalytic
converters,
but
other
other
than
that.
There's
not
much
that.
I
can
really
explain
further
to
you
to
to
harden
the
targets.
It's
criminals
are
exploiting
this
as
a
opportunistic
moneymaker.
B
A
Anywhere,
really
within
eyesight,
these,
these
offenders
are
specifically
looking
for.
These
makes
and
models
as
we're
seeing
with
the
data,
and
if
it's
with
an
eyesight
of
them
and
relatively
easy
to
access,
they
will,
they
will
try
to
access
that
converter.
B
Got
it
all
right
well,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
I
want
to
just
try
to
think
through
how
we
can
maybe
help
folks
try
to
harden
that
target
and
and
limit
the
opportunity.
So
what
you're
saying
is,
if
you
hear
something
weird,
take
a
look
and
give
a
call
it's
what
I'm
hearing.
So
that's
great.
Thank
you.
A
And
also
just
to
touch
on
the
license
plate
trend
we
just
with
the
the
large
numbers
of
vehicles
that
are
being
left
running.
We
typically
tend
to
see
theft
of
license
plates
decreased
because
that
oftentimes
requires
the
people
who
steal
cars
to
not
have
to
swap
plates
as
often
because
there
are
cars
being
left
running.
So
I
would
be
remiss
to
not
take
advantage
of
the
opportunity
to
anyone
listening
to
to
plead.
AD
Okay,
so
this
next
slide
is
a
little
bit
of
a
new
one.
What
I
did
is
I
communicated
with
all
the
different
precinct
inspectors
and
we
put
together
a
basic
overview
of
action
plans
that
they've
implemented
or
working
on
with
a
particular
crime
problem
in
mind,
so
one
of
the
most
and
we
kept
in
line
with
the
crimes
that
we've
discussed
so
far,
that's
going
to
be
robbery,
auto
theft
and
catalytic
converter
right.
AD
So
the
trends
are
that
we've
already
discussed
previously
and
the
last
column
there's
the
action
plans
or
the
types
of
strategies
that
that
are
going
to
be
used
by
the
different
precinct
inspectors,
and
none
of
these
are
necessarily
uncommon
to
you.
But
it
shows
some
level
of
intentionality
of
what
we're
doing
so,
of
course,
with
robberies.
AD
We're
going
to
continue
to
do
our
focused
enforcement
details,
we'll
do
crime
prevention
strategies
shared
with
residents
at
community
meetings
and
then
investigative
follow-up,
meaning
when
we
do
get
a
case
where
we
have
an
in
custody,
we'll
follow
up
with
that
and
seek
charges
with
the
county
when
the
threshold
is
met,
auto
theft,
again
we're
really
a
huge
component
of
that
is
messaging,
with
the
residents
and
being
diligent
and
smart
with.
AD
You
know
when,
when
you
leave
your
vehicle
unattended,
make
sure
you
have
the
v
the
the
keys
with
you
lock
your
vehicle,
a
good
component
that
we've
been
doing
now
and
austin
mentioned
it
a
couple
presentations
ago,
but
the
strategic
placement
of
bait
vehicles
and
all
precincts.
AD
I
think
it
was
last
year,
sometime
about
being
more
intentional
about
where
we're
placing
that
based
on
data
and
then
director
patrol
based
on
analytics
and
what
that
means
is
having
patrol
focus
in
areas
where
we
know
that
these
auto
thefts
are
occurring
to
act
as
a
visual
deterrent
and
or
catch
perpetrators.
In
the
act
and
the
catalytic
converters,
we
already
touched
on
a
little
bit
but
again
messaging
to
the
residents,
and
you
know
even
simple
things
like
strategically
parking.
Your
vehicle
may
be
helpful.
AD
Maybe
it's
in
a
better
line
site
of
your
neighbor's
window,
talking
to
your
neighbors
and
making
sure
if
you
do
see
something
strange
on
the
block,
it's
not
ever
a
bad
time
to
call
and
at
least
report
that
type
of
suspicious
activity,
so
yeah,
and
then
I
guess
the
last
one
is
a
collaborative
follow-up
between
the
precinct
property
crimes,
investigators.
So
our
department's
organized
with
the
property
crimes,
investigators
who
would
conduct
the
follow-up
investigations
on
these
types
of
thefts,
they're
housed
in
each
one
of
the
precincts.
AD
AD
So
let
me
go
to
the
next
slide
and
I
think
we're
going
to
move
forward
onto
the
helicopter
discussion.
Again.
I've
got
my
friends
from
the
state
patrol
here
and
I'll.
Let
them
make
introductions
on
their
own
and
commander.
B
See
if
my
colleagues
have
any
questions
or
comments
related
to
the
data
that
was
presented,
sure.
B
Well,
I'm
not
seeing
any
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
before
before
we
passed
it
off,
we
were
able
to
cover
that.
I
really
like
the
action
plans.
I
will
ask
if
there
is
something
similar
related
to
gun
violence.
Since
you
know
we,
we
are
seeing
some
trends
there
as
well.
I'm
just
curious,
you
know
if
we
have
anything
similar
to
that
to
what
we
just
saw
related
to
gun
violence.
AD
We
do
absolutely-
and
that's
actually
one
of
the
areas
that
I
oversee
is
our
gun,
violence,
response
team
and
our
gun
investigations
unit,
and
we
also
use
the
two
remaining
cert
teams
to
conduct
focused
enforcement
details.
There
was
another
one
last
night
in
specific
areas
of
the
north
side,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
best
strategies
that
we've
found
to
to
at
least
interrupt
or
impact
some
of
the
violence
that's
been
happening
and,
of
course
we
continue
to
do
follow-up
investigations.
AD
So
much
of
the
same
strategies
that
are
used
in
the
precincts
are
used
in
a
city-wide
capacity
to
address
gun
violence.
B
Thank
you
so
much,
sir
well
welcome
our
guests
here
from
from
the
state.
AD
So
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
just
set
set
up
here
as
far
as
the
the
use
of
the
helicopter
by
mpd.
This
is
it's
not
an
apples-to-apples
comparison
to
all
different
jurisdictions
across
the
country.
AD
So
we
we
ask
for
assistance
from
the
state
patrol
to
have
them,
participate
in
either
an
ongoing
incident.
That's
quickly
evolving
or
planned
details,
so
they're
not
in
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
the
right
language
to
use,
but
it's
not
passive
surveillance,
so
they
don't
operate
just
circling
above
and
there's
also.
You
know
they
act
at
our
request
and
if
they're
available
they
come,
and
I've
got
personal
experience
with
this.
Although
it's
been
a
few
years
since
I've
actually
been
on
the
street,
doing
you
know
the
work
that
is
being
done
now.
AD
I
can
tell
you
from
personal
experience:
it's
an
invaluable
tool
and
asset
that
we
have
in
this.
Partnership
is
incredibly
important,
which
you
know
I'll
discuss
a
little
bit
further
in
the
next
slide,
but
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
make
that
point
and
then
the
other
thing
is
is
there
are
other
aircraft
that
fly
low
in
the
over
the
jurisdiction
of
minneapolis
and
that's
the
medical
helicopters
that
fly
in
and
out
of
the
various
hospitals.
So
I
know
that
this
conversation
was
really
the
catalyst
was.
AD
I
think
there
were
some
questions
and
some
comments
concerns
to
the
various
council
members
as
far
as
the
use
of
the
low-flying
aircraft
and
helicopters
and
the
noise-
and
I
will
say
this:
although
there
is
a
temporary
disruption
to
people's
lively,
you
know
lives
with
the
noise
and
the
helicopters.
AD
If
you
see
that
helicopter,
if
you
see
that
state
patrol
helicopter,
if
you
see
that
medical
helicopter,
it
generally
means
that
somebody
else's
life
is
being
impacted
at
that
point.
So,
although
it's
a
temporary
discomfort
and
it's
can
be
noisy,
we
only
ask
for
their
help
when
we,
when
we
really
need
it
and
it's
it's
always
proven
to
be
a
great
mitigator
of
risk
to
the
to
the
general
public.
AD
When
we're
doing
some
of
these
details
and
even
more
more
prevalently
when
when
a
flea
may
be
occurring,
so
I
just
wanted
to
set
the
stage
a
little
bit
for
the
conversation.
AD
If
you
want
to
flip
to
the
next
slide,
please
so
in
general,
I
try
to
come
up
with
some
bullet
points
to
capture
how
minneapolis
uses
the
state
patrol
aviation
unit
and
pilots
act
as
close
aerial
support
for
officers
actively
engaged
in
planned,
detail
or
situation.
That
is
unfolding,
which
I
kind
of
touched
on
a
bit
there.
The
use
of
the
aircraft
provides
a
level
of
situational
awareness
that
is
not
attainable
by
officers
on
the
ground
or
involved
in
an
incident.
AD
Directly
and
again,
I
can
speak
to
personal
experience
with
they're.
Just
their
perspective
allows
us
to
know
things
that
that
we
wouldn't
otherwise
know
for
obvious
reasons:
they
they
have
an
elevation
perspective
that
we
don't
have
and
they
have
technology
that
we
don't
have.
That
can
help
us
locate
suspects
follow
vehicles
in
a
much
safer
manner
than
doing
so
otherwise,
they're
one
of
our
most
valued
partners
and
their
aviation
unit
does
most
definitely
act
as
a
lifeline
of
sorts
for
the
officers
during
details
and
these
evolving
incidents.
AD
I
already
mentioned
the
the
use
of
the
helicopter
and
aviation
unit
mitigates
risk
to
the
general
public
during
police
operations,
and
there
was
a
question
that
came
up
as
far
as
who
approves
the
use
of
the
helicopter
and
it's
really
on
a
case-by-case
basis
and
there's
no
formal
approval
of
it
per
se,
and
that's
maybe
something
that
state
patrol
can
speak
to.
AD
So
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
questions
on
the
specifics,
we
can
flip
to
the
next
slide,
because
I
think
that
was
yeah.
That's
it
in
a
nutshell.
From
me
from
you
know,
a
policing
perspective
from
minneapolis
the
technical
questions
that
may
be
there
from
any
of
the
council
members.
If
you
had
questions
from
your
constituents
regarding
low-level
flight
or
sound,
you
know,
we've
got
subject
matter.
Experts
online
that
can
that
can
answer
those
questions.
B
Great.
Thank
you
for
that
question
or
comment
from
councilmember
fletcher.
X
Thank
you,
cunningham.
Thank
you
commander
case.
Can
you
first
describe
on
the
last
slide?
You
said
that
it
mitigates
risk
for
the
general
public
to
use
helicopters,
and
I
just
wanna
understand
more
specifically
what
you
mean.
AD
Sure
so
I
can
use
an
example
of
if
we're
doing
a
stop,
and
in
fact
this
happened,
I
think
it
was
three
four
months
ago
of
a
suspect
vehicle
and
that
vehicle
doesn't
stop.
It
refuses
us
up,
or
you
know,
flees
or
evades
from
police.
We
can
use
the
helicopter
to
track
that
vehicle
so
that
we're
not
pursuing
it
in
a
traditional
sense,
and
so
the
idea
is-
and
we
can
do
the
same
thing
with
the
fleeing
suspect
on
foot.
AD
X
One
of
the
things
we
had
some
reporting
on
was
that
obviously
city
communications
put
out
a
number
of
arrests
from
the
from
the
three-day
period
of
in
intense
helicopter
use
last
month,
and
then,
when
news
media
followed
up
on
charges,
the
number
was
very
different
from
the
number
of
arrests
and
I
wonder
if
you
can
shed
any
light
on
why
those
numbers
are
different.
Was
there
a
miscommunication?
X
Did
we
end
up
making
arrests
that
actually
weren't
chargeable
and
how
relevant
were?
I
know
the
the
conversation
was
around
carjacking,
but
how
relevant?
How
relevant
were
the
arrests
to
that
kind
of
crime?
X
You
know
in
terms
of
our
ability
to
target
with
this
tool,
because
I
I've
certainly
heard
from
constituents
some
skepticism,
especially
in
light
of
those
media
reports,
that
this
was
actually
effective.
You
know
in
in
light
of
the
in
in
relationship
to
the
to
the
crimes
it's
supposed
to
be
targeting.
AD
Sure
I
can
try
to
answer
some
of
those
questions.
As
far
as
the
cases
go.
You
know,
the
criminal
justice
system
is
complex
and
convoluted
quite
honestly,
and
I'm
not
going
to
try
to
tap
dance
around
why
cases
do
or
don't
get
charged.
I
think
sometimes
we
can
say
we've
arrested,
so
many
people
and
several
of
those
I
know
from
that
that
time
frame
were
warrant
arrest,
so
they
wouldn't
have
been
charged
during
that
time,
because
they've
already
been
charged
with
a
crime.
AD
So
you
know
I
I'm
not
I'm
not
going
to
speak
to
the
comments
from
the
hamilton
county
attorney's
office.
I
haven't
spoken
to
them
about
what
they
used
as
far
as
a
reference
point
on
that,
but
I
can
tell
you
in
general
anytime,
we
arrest
somebody,
you
know
it's
based
on
probable
cause
and
then,
if
we
submit
that
case
to
the
county,
they
may
choose
not
to
charge
that
for
a
variety
of
different
reasons.
AD
Maybe
there's
other
cases
that
person
has
already
that
they
choose
to
envelope
into
an
already
existing
case
that
the
person
was
charged
out
on.
Maybe
there
isn't
enough
evidence
that
they
feel
is
there
to
present
the
case.
That
would
show
you
know
proof
beyond
reasonable
doubt
and
that
we
have
to
go
back
and
do
a
little
bit
more
work
to
try
to
bolster
that
evidence
and
meet
that
threshold
and
there's
others
that
are
still
open
and
under
investigation
and
so
we're
continuing.
AD
If
a
good
example
is
a
as
a
gun
investigation,
many
times
those
don't
get
charged
out
immediately.
Only
because
there's
dna
follow-up
involved
in
that,
so
there
may
be
some
lag
time
involved.
So
I
think
you
know,
especially
in
a
quick
follow-up
analysis
of
arrest
versus
charges,
there's
value
in
doing
that,
but
I
think
it
can
be.
AD
It
can
be
misleading
to
do
too
quickly
without
doing
a
more
an
extensive
follow-up
to
to
really
show
the
timeline
of
that
case
and
and
then
that
will
help
us
determine
if
that's
an
effective
strategy
or
not.
I
I
can
say
for
these
details.
They
were
in
the
areas
that
we
were
experiencing
carjacking
the
most,
and
you
know
the
stops
that
occurred
were
all
in
those
areas
being
affected
by
this.
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that
answers
your
question
for
sure
or
not
in
the
helicopter.
AD
X
Sure,
if
I
can
follow
up
mr
chair,
I'm
curious
how
you
end
up
making
warrant
stops
with
a
helicopter
surveillance
program
are,
do
we
have
warrants
to
follow
specific
people
and
so
they're
they're,
actually
intentionally
targeted
for
surveillance
through
a
warrant
process,
or
are
we
stopping
people
and
then
discovering
they
have
a
warrant
out
for
some
other
thing,
and
and
how
did
we
come
to
be
stopping
them
and
not
arresting
them
for
a
thing
we're
stopping
them
for,
but
just
making
a
warrant
arrest?
X
I
I
I
just
want
to
understand
and
make
sure
we're
not
just
casting
a
really
wide
surveillance
net.
That's
just
you
know,
grabbing
people
a
little
haphazardly.
AD
Yeah,
and
so
I
mean
even
the
phrasing
surveillance
net
in
the
same
sentence
as
the
aviation
helicopter,
that
is
not,
I
guess
that's.
Maybe
I
didn't
do
a
good
enough
job
of
explaining
that
at
the
onset,
that
is
not
how
we
use
the
state
patrol
helicopter
they're
meant
to
use
be
used
as
a
resource
for
us
once
we've
identified
somebody
that
we're
following
or
if
we're
in
the
area
and
we're
doing
a
traffic,
stop
that
we,
you
know,
for
whatever
reason
that
officer
decided
to
stop
there
in
the
area.
AD
They
may
be
circling
overhead,
you
know
as
a
officer
safety
type
thing
or
to
see
if
that
person
is
going
to
flee
or
or
you
know,
to
mitigate
risk
to
the
public
enter
the
officers,
but
we
don't
use
them
in
a
surveillance
capacity.
Unless
we
have
a
specific
individual
that
we're
watching
based
on
you
know
a
belief
that
they've
either
committed
a
crime
or
that
maybe
they
do
have
an
existing
warrant.
We're
following
them
to
you
know
pick
a
time,
whereas
the
it's
the
best
moment
to
affect
arrest.
X
AD
No,
when
they're,
when
we're
asking
for
their
help,
it's
at
the
request
of
our
action
so
we're
doing
something.
Then
they
respond
and
act
accordingly
to
our
requests.
You
know
and
I'll
let
them
respond
as
far
as
how
they
may
operate.
You
know
in
other
jurisdictions,
but
as
far
as
minneapolis
is
concerned,
that's
my
understanding
of
how
we
use
it
and
that's
my
personal
experience
as
not
only
an
officer
as
an
investigator
and
as
a
commander,
that's
how
we
use
their
their
services.
X
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
so.
The
the
idea
of
the
kind
of
three
days
of
consistent
presence
is
that
there's
a
concerted
ground
effort
where
you
think
you'll
be
calling
them
a
lot,
so
you
want
them
there
so
that
you
can
so
you
can
have
that
support.
That's
the
that's!
The
premise
of
the
prolonged
exposure
to
helicopters.
AD
Correct
it's
just
like
the
other
agencies
that
we
often
coordinate
with
in
a
mutual
aid
capacity.
Hennepin
county
sheriff's
office,
as
you
guys
know
from
previous
conversations,
is
one
of
our.
You
know
most
frequent
partners
and
we
use
them
quite
a
bit
in
the
same
way.
We
plan
on
things
ahead
of
time
so
that
they
can
get
things
on
the
schedule
and
know
that
that
resource
is
available.
X
And
if
you
weren't
using
the
helicopters,
since
all
of
this
is
happening
on
the
ground,
how
would
you
like
what
would
be
different
about
the
operation.
AD
Much
of
the
operation
would
be
the
same,
however.
We'd
lose
that
capability
to
perhaps
follow
a
vehicle
in
a
way
that
we
couldn't
do.
We
can't
do
it
without
the
the
helicopter.
You
know
heavy
traffic,
snow
conditions,
real
conditions,
unexpected
issues
that
come
up
just
not
being
able
to
maintain
visual
of
that
of
that
vehicle.
AD
B
I
I
would
just
just
to
be
clear
when,
when
we
talk
about
a
particular
kind
of
operation
that
has
taken
place,
what
what
is
like
the
chain
of
requests-
you
I
think
you
you
spoke
to,
but
if
you
could
just
clarify
it
a
little
bit
more,
so
you
don't
you
don't
have,
for
example,
I
think
what
most
folks
would
think
of
is
you
got
a
helicopter,
that's
swirling
over
my
overhead
and
then
then
they're
like
oh
there's,
a
car
there
that
looks
suspicious
and
then
they're
deploying
the
folks
on
the
ground.
B
But
what
you're
saying
is
that's
not
how
that
works.
So
can
you
explain
when
you
have
a
you
know
a
mutual
aid
part
like
a
joint
operation
that
includes
a
helicopter.
Can
you
explain
how
how
it
fits
in.
AD
Sure
so
the
order
of
operation
is
this:
we're
going
to
either
have
pre-planned
events
if
we're
doing
a
focused
enforcement
detail
where
we
know
a
location
where
we
might
be
going.
Perhaps
it's
a
pre-planned
warrant
or
perhaps
it's
an
area
that
we're
going
to
be
in
monitoring
with
marked
squads
or
with
unmarked
vehicles,
and
the
helicopter
is
a
known
asset,
that's
available
when
we
it
just
becomes
an
if
then
so.
The
decision
tree
becomes.
AD
If
we
see
something
we
everybody's
on
the
same
frequency
on
the
same
radio
channel
and
it
works
basically
just
as
a
team.
We
all
know
that
we're
in
this
area
focusing
on
a
certain
vehicle,
we'll
just
say
the
aviation
unit
would
be
aware
of
that
they
would
be
providing
support
in
a
visual
sense
and
relaying
whatever
they're.
Seeing
that
they
believe
is
helpful
for
the
current
incident
taking
place
on.
AD
Many
of
these
details
become
very
dynamic
and
fluid,
so
what
might
be
happening
in
one
place
may
shift
and
rapidly
change
to
another
place,
or
there
might
be
several
incidents
occurring
at
any
one
time,
depending
on
the
number
of
officers
that
we
have
participating
in
the
in
the
detail
or
the
different
organizations
that
might
be
involved.
So
it's
really
then
a
matter
of
the
aviation
unit
determining
from
a
triage
perspective
which
incident
they're
going
to
cover.
AD
B
Yeah
it
does
thank
you:
has
the
demand
for
using
helicopters
gone
up,
since
there
is
a
policy
around
chases
since
that
has
gone
into
place
like
it?
Has
that
gone
up?
Is
that
correlated
in
any
way?
I'm
just
I'm
curious
about
that,
because
it
seems
like
the
helicopters
are
being
used
more
frequently.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
understand.
B
I,
of
course
I
know
we
have
an
increase
in
carjackings
since
it's
been
tracked
so
yeah,
so
if
I
could
just
get
if
you
think
that
there's
a
connection
there
or
not,
I
don't.
AD
Know
that
there's
a
connection-
and
I
haven't
looked
at
that
data
point,
but
it's
certainly
something
that
I
could
look
at
as
far
as
our
cad
system
to
see
if
we
can
determine
when
the
aviation
resource
was
requested
and
then
present
and
see
if
there's
any
correlation
or
increase
sure.
B
I
that's
just
something
that
that
crossed
my
mind
around
when
you
had
talked
about
like
if
somebody
takes
off
like
so,
is
that
a
common
reason?
Why
so
that
that's
just
curious
something
I
was
curious
about,
so
I
would
be
interested
in
following
up
to
see
if
there
is
a
correlation
there
great
well.
Thank
you
so
much
are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
for
our
team?
B
All
right,
I'm
not
seeing
any.
Thank
you
so
much
commander.
Thank
you
to
the
team.
It's.
This
is
a
really
great
presentation,
and
I
really
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
be
able
to
dig
in
a
little
bit
more
about
our
with
our
questions
related
to
helicopter.
So,
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
It
is
much
much
appreciated.
B
We're
prompt
here
take
care,
have
a
good
one
and
last,
but
certainly
not
least,
on
our
agenda.
Today
we
have
I'm
receiving
on
filing
a
report
related
to
the
mobile
mental
health
response
rfp
process.
We
have
gina
allen
here
to
present
this
information,
I
felt
it
was
important
for
us
to
take
a
moment
to
to
get
this
information
out
on
the
public
record.
Have
a
conversation
about
it,
since
this
is
a
topic
that
many
are
following
in
our
city,
so
welcome.
Gina,.
AF
Thank
you,
chair
cunningham
and
council
members,
and
I
know
that
we
are
very
late
in
the
afternoon,
so
I
will
try
to
go
quickly.
AF
Next
slide,
please
the
request
for
proposal
or
rfp
was
opened
on
monday,
the
first
after
approval
on
consent
at
the
previous
phs
meeting,
and
I'm
here
today
to
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
it
and
let
providers
know
how
they
can
apply
next
slide.
AF
Here.
You
can
see
the
framework
for
transforming
public
safety
and
work
this
year
around
alternatives
to
police
response
is
largely
related
to
shifting
the
primary
response
for
behavioral
health
or
mental
health
crisis.
Calls
and
report
only
calls
to
someone
other
than
police
and
this
rfp
for
mobile
behavioral
health
crisis
services
is
one
of
many
tools
that
we're
piloting
or
implementing
within
this
alternative's
work.
AF
The
mobile
behavioral
health
crisis
teams
will
be
a
non-police
response,
dispatched
through
9-1-1
to
support
people
experiencing
a
crisis.
This
program
will
send
an
unarmed,
highly
trained
and
empathetic
team
to
properly
assess
their
needs
and
provide
appropriate
care
or
support
while
avoiding
unnecessary,
hospitalization
and
criminalization.
AF
We
are
taking
a
community-based
approach
to
this
pilot
as
we
recognize
that
our
community
part
that
our
community
organizations
in
minneapolis
are
really
close
points
of
contact
with
residents
and
have
worked
really
hard
to
grow
those
trusting
relationships
and
to
support
to
further
support
this.
The
teens
will
need
to
be
diverse
in
race
and
gender
and
provide
culturally
responsive
care.
AF
I
do
really
want
to
highlight
that
we
invite
collaboration
between
community
organizations
when
applying
to
this
opportunity
to
better
need
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
rich
cultural
diversity
in
our
city.
We
recognize
that
organizations
at
central
bypak
may
not
have
the
resources
or
capacity
to
provide
the
disservice
to
the
entire
city
on
their
own,
so
we
support
using
existing
relationships
with
other
providers
or
developing
new
relationships
to
co-create
a
plan.
AF
This
pilot
is
a
huge
and
exciting
undertaking,
so
I
want
to
thank
the
many
internal
and
external
partners
who
helped
shape
the
rfp,
including
community
members,
911,
the
city
attorney's
office,
the
clerk's
office,
mpd,
hennepin,
county
hennepin,
healthcare,
hennepin
ems
jurisdictions,
who
are
doing
similar
programming
such
as
scott
county
here
in
minnesota,
and
the
denver
star
program
and
also
council
next
slide.
Please.
AF
AF
A
primary
goal
of
the
mobile
crisis
response
teams
will
be
to
deliver
crisis
support
in
a
way
that
respects
the
culture
and
language
of
the
person
in
crisis,
and
when
I'm
talking
about
culture
here,
I'm
speaking
broadly
about
the
various
cultures
our
residents
belong
to
from
racial
and
ethnic
culture,
to
transgender,
non-conforming,
folks
to
various
abilities
ages
and
beyond.
AF
Lastly,
and
just
as
important
is
performance
management
and
accountability,
ongoing
program
evaluation
is
necessary
for
ensuring
effective
service
delivery,
making
improvements
to
the
pilot
along
the
way
and
demonstrating
its
impact.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
this
response
is
aligned
with
community
needs
and
how
we
do.
This
will
be
developed
in
partnership
with
the
selected
providers.
AF
This
brings
us
to
our
rfp
timeline
and
I
want
to
highlight
a
few
important
dates.
Coming
up
this
month
on
march
11th,
we
will
be
hosting
a
virtual
meeting
where
interested
providers
may
ask
our
team
questions
about
the
rfp,
the
process
and
the
program,
and
we
know
that
women
in
bipod
tend
not
to
apply
if
they
don't
meet
every
criteria.
AF
Written
questions
to
the
rp
are
due
by
4
pm
on
march
18th
and
will
be
collecting
these
questions
and
posting
the
answers
so
that
interested
organizations
can
view
them
with
the
rfp
march
31st.
The
proposal
are
the
rfp
closes,
and
those
proposals
are
due
by
4.
Pm
interviews
will
then
take
place
from
april
7th
through
9th,
and
then
we
plan
to
select
providers
by
april
14th
next
slide.
Please.
AF
To
apply
organizations
must
be
registered
in
the
city's
esupplier
portal.
The
link
shown
here
has
instructions
for
how
to
do
that,
along
with
faqs
and
videos,
to
make
that
easier
to
view
and
apply
to
rfp
go
to
this
link
and
click
on
the
web
and
click
on
the
link
that
says,
use
the
portal
and
then
click
on
contracting
opportunities,
and
that
will
take
you
a
list
to
all
the
our
open
rfps
in
the
city.
AF
If
you
have
any
questions
about
that
supplier
system,
please
email,
our
procurement
department
at
the
email
shown
here
and
the
second
email
address
is
to
send
any
questions
you
have
about
the
rfp
itself
or
the
program
next
slide.
Please,
and
that's
everything.
Thank
you
so
much
committee
chair,
cunningham
and
council
members
for
bearing
with
me
as
I
wrap
this
up
and
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
B
B
Are
there
any
questions
or
comments
for
gina
all
right?
I'm
not
saying
any
well.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
and
I
will
direct
the
clerk
to
file
the
reports
from
the
community
safety
report,
as
well
as
the
mobile
mental
health
response
rfp
process.
Thank
you
everybody.
For
sticking
with
us.
It
was
a
long
meeting
today,
but
full
of
really
important
good
information.
B
Our
next
meeting
for
the
public
health
and
safety
committee
will
take
place
on
march
18th
and
20
2021
at
1
30,
and
seeing
no
further
business
before
us
and
without
objection.
I
will
declare
this
meeting
adjourned
thanks.