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B
Good
afternoon,
everyone,
my
name,
is
cam,
gordon
and
I'll
call
to
order
this
council
study
session
for
june
29
2021.
I'll
note
for
the
record
that
this
meeting
has
remote
participation
by
council
members
and
city
staff
as
authorized
under
minnesota,
open
meeting
law,
section
13
d
.021
due
to
the
declared
state
of
local
public
health
emergency.
B
B
B
B
B
This
session
is
on
homeless
encampments.
This
has
certainly
been
a
challenging
and
persistent
problem
in
minneapolis
in
recent
years
we
get
weekly
reports
on
it
now
from
our
health
department.
Some
local
experts
and
people
from
other
cities
are
exploring
and
pursuing
pursuing
innovative
approaches
and
ideas
that
might
be
useful
for
us
to
learn
about
today.
F
Thank
you,
councilmember,
gordon.
Before
we
get
started,
I
want
to
share
how
we've
been
framing
this
issue,
as
we've
been
setting
up
the
study
session
until
there
are
enough
housing
and
shelter
options
available
that
are
dignified
and
culturally
appropriate
people
will
reside
in
informal
shelters,
shelter
situations
in
our
community.
F
Opioid
epidemic
mean
many
of
our
neighbors
will
become
and
remain
unhoused
in
the
coming
years.
So
it
is
not
a
matter
of
if
people
reside
in
places
unfit
for
human
habitation
in
our
community,
but
how
they
will
be
supported
until
we
resolve
homelessness
in
a
comprehensive
manner
and
how
we
support
them
in
a
reflection
on
the
and
how
we
support
them
is
a
reflection
on
the
values
we
choose
to
uphold
in
response
to
this
reality,
I'm
being
told
my
connection
is
bad.
F
F
Okay,
okay,
thank
you.
City
staff
has
been
working
hard
to
address
homelessness
and
encampments
for
some
time
now,
and
I
want
to
share
just
a
few
highlights
of
the
amazing
work
that
we've
been
able
to
accomplish
that
they've
been
able
to
accomplish.
Last
year,
we
joined
our
partners
to
invest
55
million
in
homelessness
response
to
expand
emergency
shelter,
low
barrier,
housing
and
protective
housing
for
people
experiencing
homelessness,
as
well
as
enhance
existing
shelters
and
expand
support
services,
rapid
rehousing
and
street
outreach.
The
city's
share
of
these
investments
were
around
13.4
million
dollars.
F
These
partnerships
resulted
in
three
new
emergency
shelters
that
opened
in
late
2020
and
another
36
bed
facility
facilities
under
construction.
We
have
200
more
shelter
beds,
including
low
barrier
culturally
specific
shelter
available.
Today,
then,
we
did
have
a
year
ago.
At
this
time
the
city
continues
to
make
investments
in
new
permanent
supportive
housing
and
that
investment
has
increased
by
a
factor
of
six.
F
Two
in
the
health
and
one
in
cped
specifically
focused
on
responding
to
unsheltered
homelessness,
which
staff
will
discuss
in
more
detail
during
the
background
part
of
this
study
session,
and
if
we
were
able
to
meet
in
person,
I
would
be
forcing
us
all
to
give
staff
a
round
of
applause
for
the
work
that
they've
done
in
the
in
the
last
couple
of
years
to
address
homelessness,
and
I
also
want
to
yes.
Thank
you.
I
see
a
couple
of
folks
hopping
on
to
applaud
staff.
F
It's
incredible
work,
especially
here
in
minneapolis,
where
you
know
we
as
a
city
weren't,
what
we
weren't
taking
on
homelessness
in
in
in
this
kind
of
significant
way
prior
to
staff's
work
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
and
so
it's
a
huge
achievement.
And
yet
I
also
think
it's
important
for
us
to
acknowledge
that
we
haven't
filled
every
gap
right
and
and
and
we're
not
we're,
never
going
to
into
two
to
three
years,
and
so
that's
what
this
study
session
is
about.
F
F
With
that.
I
want
to
start
us
off
by
asking
our
staff
experts
from
the
city
enterprise
and
from
hennepin
county,
to
share
some
background
information
and
local
context
to
set
the
stage,
and
I
just
want
to.
I
want
to
thank
david
hewitt,
director
of
housing,
stability
at
hennepin,
county
stephanie,
abel
director
department
administrator
at
hennepin,
county
public
health,
noya,
woodridge,
deputy
commissioner
minneapolis
public
health
department,
katie
tupinka
policy
research
and
outreach
manager
with
with
cped
minneapolis,
community
planning
and
economic
development
department.
F
A
Thank
you,
council
member
council,
president
council
members,
david
hewitt,
director
of
housing,
stability
with
hennepin
county
and
I've
been
asked
to
kick
off
this
session
with
some
local
context.
Along
with
colleagues,
I
do
have
to
apologize
and
I'll
have
to
leave
shortly
after
these
remarks,
but
I
hope
that
I
can
give
you
some
some
grounding
and
some
information
that
will
be
helpful
in
the
discussions
that
follow,
starting
with
the
caveat
that
all
data
is
flawed.
But
some
is
useful.
A
I
want
to
draw
on
a
couple
of
different
sources,
starting
with
the
annual
points
in
time
count
that
all
communities
around
the
country
complete
for
hud
to
kind
of
illustrate
where
we
are
right
now
in
four
of
the
last
five
annual
points
in
time
counts.
The
number
of
individuals
identified
as
experiencing
homelessness
in
our
community
has
been
just
over
three
thousand
between
three
thousand
and
ten
and
3060,
and
this
is
a
one-night
count
takes
place
in
january,
includes
people
who
are
unsheltered.
A
A
Firstly,
family
homeless
numbers
reduced
by
more
than
40
percent
from
2014
to
2020
and
have
reduced
even
more
dramatically
since
the
onset
of
the
pandemic.
At
this
point,
in
2014
there
were
242
families
with
children
in
shelter.
At
this
point,
in
2019
there
were
94
families
with
children
in
shelter,
and
today
the
number
of
families
in
shelter
is
39..
A
In
the
point
in
time
count
january
2020.,
our
community
was
unable
to
carry
out
a
full
unsheltered
count
in
21
during
the
pandemic,
for
obvious
reasons,
but
of
course
we
all
saw
the
exponential
growth
of
encampments
in
2020.
this
time.
Last
year
there
was
the
powderhorn
park
encampment,
which
alone
accounted
for
nearly
300
people
when
census
and
at
the
same
time
there
were
several
other
large
and
many
many
smaller
encampments
around
the
city.
A
A
It
should
also
be
noted
that
many
of
those
experienced
young
childs
at
homelessness
are
not
in
encounters,
but
in
other
settings
not
fit
for
human
habitation,
such
as
sleeping
on
transit.
All
of
that
said,
the
estimate
I
have
seen
of
the
number
of
people
staying
in
the
currently
identified
encampments
is
between
250
and
300
in
total,
something
that
both
the
point
in
time
figure
and
this
encampment
specific
figure
also
masks
is
the
amount
of
daily
movement
that
occurs
across
all
of
2020.
A
As
you
just
heard,
the
total
number
of
people
who
exited
homelessness
to
a
permanent
destination-
and
this
is
across
all
the
programs
operated
by
non-profits,
some
of
whom
are
on
the
panel
today.
That
number
was
2165.,
so
that's
almost
six
people
a
day
every
single
day
for
365
days
straight
during
a
pandemic,
who
ended
their
experience
of
homelessness
and
moved
into
a
permanent
home.
Thousands
more
people
stayed
in
shelter
or
unsheltered
situations
and
left
that
situation,
but
without
a
known
destination.
A
A
A
It
is
those
challenges
and
barriers
that
the
homeless
response
system
seeks
to
address
primarily
through
two
overall
measures,
which
simply
put
I
describe
as
places
for
people
to
go
and
people
to
help
them
get
there
and
those
places
people
to
go,
maybe
shelter
for
some
as
a
short-term
emergency
option,
and
we've
seen
some
new
modalities
open
this
year
again
already
referenced
the
avivo
villages
model,
the
american
indian
community
development,
corporation's
homewood
bound
shelter,
and
they
were
specifically
designed
to
better
meet
the
needs
of
people.
Who've
gone
unsheltered.
A
A
That
was
open
at
the
end
of
the
last
year,
and
this
individual
used
to
sleep
in
the
park
opposite
the
building
they
now
live
in,
and
the
reason
that
I
highlight
those
examples
is
just
that
really.
We
believe
in
the
need
to
continually
and
urgently
seek
housing
for
all.
So
with
that,
I
will
hand
over
to
stephanie
abel
stephanie.
G
G
G
G
G
So
in
this
is
a
state
declared
outbreak
and
in
the
state
declared
outbreak
a
little
over
half
or
50
percent
are
people
that
are
associated
with
encampments
and
then
again,
the
disparities
in
this
that
we
see
in
homelessness
that
impact
health
and
are
now
also
impacting
this
outbreak
about
20
percent.
27
percent
of
the
individuals
associated
with
the
hiv
outbreak
are
native
american.
So
again,
it's
very
disproportional.
G
H
We
provided
some
gloves
some
boots
and
some
hand
and
feet
warmers
to
our
outreach
partners,
so
they
could
distribute
those
to
those
residing
in
the
encampments,
along
with
cped,
we've
been
able
to
provide
drinking
water
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
which
our
homeless
outreach
coordinators
hand
out
daily
when
they're
out
of
the
encampments
and
then
we've
also
provided
with
each
porta
potty
hand
washing
station
and
trash
receptacle.
We've
also
provided,
in
most
cases,
a
syringe
box
to
help
try
to
mitigate
the
syringe
litter
issues
that
tend
to
go
along
with
these
encampments.
H
H
H
So
we
hold
a
contract
with
the
aliveness
project
and
an
indigenous
people's
task
force
to
provide
outreach
to
the
encampments
specifically
around.
Promoting
the
testing
of,
and
treatment
of,
hiv
cpad
holds
three
contracts
for
service
for
outreach
services,
which
katie
will
talk
a
bit
more
about
and
then
not
encampment
specific
but
related
to
the
encampments.
Health
also
holds
contracts
with
native
american
community
clinics
outside
harm
reduction
services.
Human
and
metro
youth
diversion
to
distribute
naloxone
and
provide
education
on
the
administration
of.
I
Good
afternoon
I'm
katie
topinka,
I'm
the
policy,
research
and
outreach
manager
with
the
community
planning
and
economic
development
department
at
the
city,
and
some
of
this
has
already
been
touched
down.
But
cped's
role
in
this
work
is
there
are
several
things
that
we
do,
one
which
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
is
funding
our
street
outreach
teams.
I
Since
march
of
last
year,
as
council
member
ellison
mentioned,
we
have
invested
13.4
million
dollars
in
new
shelters
to
expand
street
outreach
and
in
rapid
rehousing,
and
we
do
have
new,
culturally
specific
and
low
barrier,
shelter
200
more
beds
now
than
we
did
last
year.
At
this
time,
as
david
mentioned,
there's
been
a
lot
of
changes
to
shelters
that
are
all
open,
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week
and
have
wraparound
services
that
help
people
transition
out
of
shelter
and
into
permanent
housing.
I
We,
the
city,
has
a
long-standing
street
outreach
contract
with
st
stevens
human
services,
and
I
know
you're
going
to
hear
from
st
steve
st
stevens
later
today
on
the
panel
discussion.
In
addition
to
that
contract,
we
added
two
new
street
auto
reach
contracts.
Last
year
with
avivo
and
aicdc,
that's
american
indian
community
development
corporation
and
the
city
is
partnering
with
these
organizations
and
providing
providing
funding
so
that
we
can
provide
important
connections
to
housing
and
services
for
people
who
are
experiencing
unsheltered
homelessness.
I
This
team
is
really
working
proactively
with
our
outreach
providers
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
connections
to
housing
and
services
when
new
encampments
are
identified.
Hennepin
county
has
also
hired
a
new
staff
person
who
specifically
focused
on
unsheltered
homelessness
and
together
the
city
and
county
staff
with
our
contracted.
F
B
Well,
thank
you,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
david
and
stephanie
and
noah
and
katie
as
well,
and
just
note
that
I
think
the
city's
response
to
unsheltered
homelessness
and
the
coordination
that
we're
seeing
this
year
compared
to
where
we
were
just
12
months
ago,
or
I
think,
18
months
ago.
It's
it's
amazing
and
also
coming
to
terms
with
the
encampment
and
that
issue
and
what
we've
got
going
and
and
just
hearing
about
the
added
staff
and
added
resources
is
really
significant.
B
B
She's
been
closely
involved
in
the
response
to
the
drake
hotel
fire
and
the
park
board's
refugee
space
ordinance
and
was
instrumental
in
the
creation
of
the
indoor
villages
concept,
which
now
we
have
up
and
running
in
aviva
village.
So
with
that
I'll
hand
it
over
to
you
sheila
to
give
us
five
minutes
on
the
national
perspective.
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
including
me
in
this.
What
I'd
like
to
focus
on
in
terms
of
giving
us
a
framework
for
what
we'll
be
hearing
we're
very
lucky.
We
have
guests
from
both
seattle
and
denver
who
are
willing
to
share
what
they
are
working
on.
We
have
chris
connor
who
will
give
us
the
local
government
perspective,
and
then
we
also
have
cinda
stenger
and
willow
fulton,
who
are
actually
community
advisory
committee
members,
two
tiny
house,
villages
in
seattle.
They
have
a
very
interesting
perspective.
J
I
know
that
as
elected
and
administrative
leaders,
it's
always
a
challenge
to
start
new
things
in
any
neighborhood,
and
I
I
think
we
can
learn
some
unique
lessons
from
their
experience.
Moving
on
just
wanting
to
share
that,
there's
a
lot
of
resources
that
I'm
sure
you're
aware
of
but
did
want
to
call
your
attention
to.
J
We
have
some
some
information
from
hud
that
provides
kind
of
a
typology
on
how
communities,
municipalities
counties
respond
to
encampments.
There
is
a
range
of
response
if
we
can
advance
when
you
have
a
chance,
that
would
be
great
and
we'll
talk
about
just
some
cautions.
If,
if
the
administrative
and
elected
leadership
would
like
to
move
forward,
there's
cautions
when
you
move
forward
on
considering
some
of
these
these
strategies
and
then
we'll
hear
from
our
guests.
J
So
we
can
advance
so
I
think
we're
somewhere
between
tacit
acceptance
and
just
sort
of
and
and
possibly
formal
sanctioning
to
in
some
cases.
But
again
this.
I
found
this
very
interesting.
It's
a
good
resource
for
all
of
you
and
we
can
advance
please-
and
this
is
some.
These
are
some
cautions
if
you're
going
to
consider
a
sanctioned
space
or
a
legitimate,
legitimized
space.
J
The
environments
are
very
difficult
to
challenging
to
operate
and
they
can
give
us
all
a
feeling
that
we're
we're
ending
homelessness
or
taking
significant
action.
But
I
think
that
there's
the
evidence
is
mixed
in
terms
of
how
effective
this
really
is,
and
that's
what
we're
here
to
begin
to
discuss
creating
these
environments
is
costly.
J
You
guys
all
know
that,
but
I
especially
want
to
point
out
if
we
can
advance
this
recommendation
to
be
very
specific
about
what
you're
trying
to
do
versus
thinking
globally
and
as
a
a
larger
approach,
but
being
very
specific,
perhaps
considering
smaller
projects
versus
like,
for
example,
aviva
village.
It's
wonderful
to
have
added
100
low
barrier
beds,
but
perhaps
we
need
to
be
looking
at
at
unique
needs
that
can
be
met,
so
we
can
advance
on
please
and
just
kind
of
fly
through
these
next
recommendations.
J
K
Yeah,
thank
you.
You
have
my
presentation
up,
so
I
don't
have
to
delay
with
sharing
slides,
I'm
so
glad
to
be
speaking
with
minneapolis.
There's
no
other
city
I'd
I'd
rather
be
speaking
with
it's.
Where
I
I
go
when
I
need
to
go
home,
a
graduate
of
winona
state
university
and
still
have
family
there
also
very
happy
to
be
speaking
on
this
challenging
topic.
I'm
chris
connor.
I
direct
homelessness
system
strategies
in
our
own
department
of
housing,
stability
which
I'm
happy
to
introduce
here
slide.
K
K
Thank
you.
So
we
serve
about
1800
people
in
rehousing
and
supportive
housing
programs,
and
we
identify
similar
inequities
that
cities
across
the
nation
are
identifying.
So
in
the
case
of
rehousing
and
supportive
housing
about
60
percent
of
those
house,
those
households
being
served,
there
are
our
black
indigenous
people
of
color
compared
to
46
of
our
population
here
in
denver,
also
leaning
high
on
women
that
we're
supporting,
as
well
as
as
folks
who
are
aging
by
rough
estimate,
minneapolis
and
denver
aren't
very
far
apart.
K
So
roughly
a
thousand
were
unsheltered
at
the
time
when
we're
approaching
unsheltered
people
experiencing
homelessness,
we're
serving
about
11,
000
or
more
annually
within
our
shelter
system,
not
necessarily
all
at
once,
but
when
we
look
and
and
identify
how
many
individuals
have
come
through
the
system,
it
crests
above
eleven
thousand
thirteen
hundred
plus
through
our
outreach
programs.
Our
outreach
looks
similar
to
folks.
We
have
a
street
outreach
collaborative
of
three
different
community
based
organizations,
but
we've
also
seen
a
proliferation
of
different
outreach
responses
during
the
pandemic.
K
We
also
see
inequities
within
who's
accessing
our
emergency
base,
levels
of
care,
so
53
percent
of
gusts
in
shelters,
57
percent
of
our
outreach
clients
are
black
indigenous
people
of
color
compared
to
that
same
46
percent
of
our
population,
overall,
which
we've
done
a
number
of
different
strategies
that
have
been
pandemic
related
and
I've
narrowed.
My
presentation
to
really
focus
on
our
safe
outdoor
space
model,
but
more
than
40
percent
of
our
our
point
in
time.
K
K
We
saw
four
times:
unemployment
rate,
270
percent
increase
in
rental
assistance,
applications,
just
flooding
the
gates
and,
more
importantly,
you
know
covet
came
around
and
it
essentially
cut
in
half
what
we
had
available
for
shelter
because
we
needed
to
meet
that
that
estimation
of
being
able
to
distance
people
six
feet
apart.
We
also
needed
to
be
able
to
ensure
that
people
could
stay
home
on
advisement,
so
we
needed
to
transform
shelters
into
24
7..
K
So
at
the
same
time
that
we
were
seeing
a
decrease
in
our
shelter
usage
slide,
we
saw
a
64
increase
in
people
arriving
to
access
shelter
and
we
responded
to
that
in
very
different
ways
than
safe
outdoor
space.
We
mobilized
motels,
like
many
other
communities
across
the
nation,
were
poised
to
do.
We
also
moved
into
larger
spaces
a
convention
hall
using
leveraging
staff
from
many
different
providers
to
to
operate
that
not
so
much
to
meet
more
people
but
to
meet
that
need
for
more
space
environments
and
operating
24
7..
K
This
created
the
opportunity
to
think
about
you
know
we're
making
all
these
pivots
and
changes
and
new
investments
for
the
people
that
we
are
serving
indoors.
What
are
we
doing
for
people
outdoors,
so
safe
outdoor
spaces
didn't
arrive
as
a
response
to
the
people
coming
to
us
for
shelter,
safe
outdoor
space
arrived
to
us
as
as
a
a
innovation
or
an
area
that
we
could
work
to
serve.
The
people
who
weren't
coming
to
us
for
shelter
who
were
remaining
outdoors.
K
The
dynamics
of
of
encampments
were
changing
in
denver
in
size
and
scale
of
what
we
were
seeing
in
unsanctioned
encampments.
Previously,
you
know
in
denver
a
12th
structure.
Encampment
would
have
been
considered
a
large
encampment,
but
in
the
summer
of
2020
we
started
seeing
these
encampments
developing
with
100
plus
people
in
them
80
plus
structures.
K
So
safe
outdoor
space
arrived
to
us
as
part
of
our
covid
strategy.
It
was
about
what
are
we
doing
for
individuals
to
make
sure
that
we're
protecting
the
folks
remaining
outside
for
a
pandemic,
because
the
the
strategies
and
tactics
for
folks
coming
into
our
facility
based
programs
were
pretty
rare,
pretty
clear.
K
So
we
reached
out
to
community
based
organizations,
we
had
heard
steady,
drum,
beat
for
stepping
into
this
model
and
we,
as
a
city
had
some
healthy
skepticism
about
what
stepping
in
would
mean,
but
we
we
seized
upon
it
within
the
frame
of
this
is
part
of
our
covid
response,
so
resources
that
were
applied
there
largely
were
about
basic
needs.
Services,
bathrooms
hand,
sinks,
the
trash,
the
drinking
water
heat
showers,
all
those
hygiene
stuff,
as
well
as
a
place
to
be
and
stay
put.
K
It
also
allowed
a
stabilizing
place
where
we
could
integrate
services
and
provide
24-hour
access
to
to
supports
there,
but
so
the
three
main
things
that
that
came
through
the
the
reasons
for
safe
outdoor
space-
and
this
was
very
important
to
to
bring
this
on
board
one.
Is
it
mitigated
the
impact
of
the
pandemic
among
unhoused
neighbors,
those
who
weren't
accessing
facility-based
program,
equitable
access
to
the
services,
such
as
health
care
and
ongoing
case
management,
that
we
were
investing
in
facility-based
services?
K
We
found
that
we
needed
to
to
find
something
to
augment
augment
our
outreach
efforts
and
it
was
to
relocate
the
people
who
were
camping
in
unsanctioned
public
spaces
into
safe,
managed
and
service
oriented
locations.
Indeed,
the
second
site
that
we
stood
up,
we
went
across
the
street
to
an
unsanctioned
encampment
and
we
filled
the
sanctioned
area
within
three
hours
and
and
mitigated
a
lot
of
the
the
community-based
issues
that
were
effervescing
in
the
unsanctioned
environment
by
just
providing
that
stable
environment
for
people
to
be
next
slide
thanks.
K
So
as
we're
bringing
this
on
board
one
of
the
hardest
things
that
we
found
was:
where
are
we
going
to
cite
these?
Where
are
we
going
to
locate
them?
When
I
started
talking
to
the
city
about
it,
the
consensus
was.
This
is
a
lot
easier
to
to
get
done
if
we
have
community
based
support
if
a
parking
lot,
faith,
faith
groups
that
want
to
embrace
this
as
well-
and
we
tried
another
a
number
of
options
and
received
some
significant
community
pushback
along
the
way
in
our
public
meetings.
K
What
was
really
important
we
found
after
maybe
three
go-arounds
of
these
sessions,
was
to
give
a
vision,
actual
not
vision
in
words,
but
an
actual
representation
of
what
safe
outdoor
spaces
look
like
the
optics
are
important.
We
found
that
the
public
oftentimes
reading
the
headlines,
seating
photojournalism
of
what
encampment
means
it
doesn't
look
safe.
It
doesn't
look
healthy
right
in
the
news,
unsanctioned
encampments,
don't
so
one
of
the
things
we
did
is
we.
K
We
essentially
set
up
a
dollhouse
safe
outdoor
space
in
a
small
parking
lot
of
a
church
and
invited
neighborhood
stakeholders
to
come
and
tour
what
what
that
environment
would
look
like
without
guests
being
there,
so
they
could
see
some
of
that
infrastructure
and
that
started
changing
a
bit
of
how
the
public
was
was
seeing
and
appreciating
what
we
do.
You
could
please
cycle
through
the
next
few
slides
they're,
just
some
of
the
pictures
of
the
environments.
K
Next,
this
one
to
pause
just
a
moment
back.
This
is
a
reiteration
of
the
first
site.
They
are
temporary,
unlisted
use
permits,
so
we
do
need
to
move
them
kind
of
at
six
months
in
increments,
and
this
is
what
a
safe
outdoor
space
looks
like
when
you
start
getting
institutional
support.
So
in
the
background
there
that
is
regis
university,
a
private
jesuit
university
campus
that
had
invited
the
safe
outdoor
space
to
move
upon
its
land
to
integrate
into
its
own
mission
of
love
and
hospitality
in
the
community.
K
Next,
thanks-
and
this
is
this-
is
what
it
initially
looked
like
for
the
weather,
so
everything
is
uniform.
Everything
looks
similar.
These
are
ice
fishing
tents
that
may
be
very
familiar
to
minnesota.
So
it's
it's.
What
we
used
on
top
of
pallet
structures
that
raised
them
off
the
ground,
each
one
has
electricity
run
to
it.
So
there's
an
electric
panel
at
the
entrance
that
runs
electricity
to
one
one
outlet
to
each
one
of
those
tent
environments.
K
Those
tents
support
a
broad
diversity
of
groups
that
experience
unsheltered,
homeless
and
happy
to
say
that
the
safe
outdoor
spaces
was
the
first
program
in
denver
that
provided
emergency
shelter
to
couples.
That
was
one
of
the
largest
gaps
in
our
portfolio
of
shelter
options.
We
did
not
have
a
shelter
that
would
receive
couples.
K
K
So
these
are
the
rules
that
essentially,
that
that
apply
to
guests
of
the
safe
outdoor
space,
they're
they're,
not
too
granular.
You
know
it's
it's
very
much
a
harm
reduction
approach,
but
it
covers
the
basis
of
of
safety
and
behavior
at
a
pretty
high
high
level
and
allowing
this
embedding
this
within
a
good
neighbor
agreement
to
communicate
to
neighbors
is
essential
to
to
moving
these
forward
and
goodwill
with
with
neighbors
excited
thanks.
So
what
came
of
it?
Initially?
K
We
introduced
this
as
a
health
approach
right,
so
we
did
not
embed
in
contract
performance
measures
towards
housing
or
or
homelessness
resolution.
It
was
new
and
it
was
created
in
interest
of
health.
But
that
said
what
a
shame
it
would
have
been
if
we
had
done
this
entire
experience
and
not
looked
back
to
see
what
the
potential
is
for
for
re-housing
activity
and
homelessness
resolution.
So
we
did
ask
the
program
to
start
baselining
at
this
point.
This
shows
the
first
six
months
of
programming
for
about
57
guests.
K
K
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
it
part
of
your
record
in
case
there
was
follow-up
questions
at
the
program
level
about
the
program,
but
I
am
chris
connor
from
city
of
denver
and
unless
we're
moving
forward
in
the
agenda
in
different
ways
happy
to
take
any
questions,
if
there's
any
time
or
can
address
them
at
the
end.
Thank
you
so
much
happy
to
speak
with
you.
B
K
J
Thank
you
chris.
As
I
said
before,
we
have
cinda
and
willow
here
to
share
their
experience
as
neighbors
to
tiny
house
villages
in
seattle.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
not
only
would
would
this
conversation
relate
to
encampments.
It
definitely
relates
to
what
we're
so
excited
about
and
we
have
representatives
from
envision
community
on
the
call,
because
cinda
and
willow
are
great
involved
neighbors
to
these
villages.
So,
just
wanting
to
show
you
some
pictures
of
seattle,
I
chose
these
because
they
look
familiar.
Seattle
gets
winter
too.
J
I
guess-
and
it
looks
like
the
community
groups-
help
build
these
these
villages,
and
I
just
am
delighted
by
how
colorful
and
diverse
they
look.
If
you
could
advance
the
slide,
please.
I
took
some
of
the
slides
from
the
low
income
housing
institute.
Several
people
on
this
call
have
already
had
calls
with
them.
They
are
the
operator
and
cindy,
and
willow
will
talk
more
in
depth
about
what
they
do,
but
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
flavor
for
the
these
villages.
J
There
are,
I
understand,
10
currently
in
the
seattle
city,
limits
similar
to
what
we
have
tried
to
do.
There's
an
attempt
to
meet
people
where
they're
they
are,
and
that
also
means
in
some
cases
I
understand
villages
have
certain
codes
of
conduct
and
some
are
very
low
barriers,
so
willow
and
cinder
will
probably
speak
to
that.
We
can
slide
please,
and
I
shared
just
a
few
images
and
also
actually
a
code
of
conduct,
willa
and
cinda.
J
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
current
code
of
conduct,
but
it's
the
one
that
I
found
for
camp
second
chance
and
that's
the
camp
you're
going
to
focus
on,
but
wanting
to
make
sure
that,
among
the
varieties
of
villages
that
they
have
there
are
these
different
different
forms
of
governance,
different
forms
of
staffing
and
different
cultures
slide.
Please.
J
One
thing
I
noted
when
I
was
doing
a
little
research
is
that,
while
in
seattle,
prevention
is
the
most
effective
way
to
get
people
to
keep
people
in
permanent
housing
and
of
course,
then
after
that
is
transitional,
housing
and
rapid
rehousing.
The
villages
are
at
least
we're
trending
to
outperform
both
shelter
and
enhance
shelter
and
in
seattle
I
understand
enhanced
shelter
to
be
shelter
for
people
with
higher
needs
who
are
particularly
vulnerable.
So
I
thought
that
was
an
interesting
bit
of
data
slide.
J
Please,
and
these
community
advisor
committees
look
awfully
serious
to
me
and
we
want
to
hear
from
both
willow
and
cinda
about
how
they
work,
but
here's
some
examples.
The
application,
an
example
of
meeting
notes
slide.
Please
and
I
just
want
to
offer
to
have
cinderella,
take
it
away
and
again.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
first
cinda
talked
with
a
number
of
us
on
this
call
a
couple
months
ago
and
now
you're
back
again
and
brought
willow
and
we're
just
extremely
grateful
for
your
generosity.
So
take
it
away
thanks.
M
My
name
is
willow
fulton
and
I
am
a
resident
of
unincorporated
king
county
about
300
feet
from
the
seattle
city
limit,
which
is
where
camp's
second
chance
is
located
so
and
within
500
feet
of
the
parcels
that
they're
located
on,
and
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
I'm
not
any
kind
of
a
professional
around
homelessness.
I
don't
work
with
any
of
the
agencies.
M
I
don't
know
what
my
story
would
be
today
or
if
I
would
even
have
one
so
that's
just
kind
of
my
own
personal
perspective
and
where
I
come
from
so
we
are.
Our
area
is
a
fairly
kind
of
we're
kind
of
on
the
fringes
like
I
said,
I'm
I'm
actually
just
on
the
other
side
in
an
unincorporated
area,
we're
on
the
very
outside
fringes
of
seattle.
M
The
neighborhood
is
called
white
center
and
we
have
a
really
diverse
community
here
and
tend
to
be
a
little
light
on
services
of
various
sorts
and
also
because
it's
kind
of
edge
of
the
city
a
little
bit
no
man's
land.
We
have
challenges
getting
support
either
from
city
or
from
county
when
we
have
stuff
going
on
here.
So
the
way
that
our
situation
started
is
on
meyer's
way,
just
a
block
down
the
street
from
my
house
two
blocks
down,
we
had
quite
a
lot
of
unsanctioned
camping.
M
We
have
a
wooded
green
belt
area
that
is
city,
light
property.
We
have
another
area,
that's
these
open
parcels
that
was
designated
for
something
but
decided
to
be
open,
saved
for
open
green
space.
The
city
is
maybe
going
to
make
a
park
out
of
it,
but
that
there's
no
money
in
the
budget
for
that
there's
no
identification
of
where
you
know
where
that
would
come
from
or
when
it
would
happen
and
as
a
result
of
this
being
kind
of
an
out
of
the
way
area.
M
M
Did
some
talking
to
people
and
a
little
while
later,
a
group
that
had
been
camped
on
church
property
for
a
while
had
to
move
their
agreement
with
the
church
was
up
and
they
moved
into
one
of
the
open
spaces
that
was
nearby
us
and
you
know
many
of
the
you
know
my
neighbors
had
been
talking
about
the
challenges
in
that
area
for
a
long
time,
the
biggest
complaints
that
were
there.
You
know
that
people
talked
about
was
the
garbage
and
you
know
it
not
being
hygienic
that
kind
of
thing.
M
M
So
one
day
somebody
posted
that
some
folks
in
tents
had
showed
up
in
the
area
and
oh
my
gosh.
They
even
had
a
porta
potty
in
a
kitchen
tent,
and
I
immediately
perked
up
and
was
like
this.
This
is
the
kind
of
thing
you
know.
Obviously,
whoever
this
is
is
trying
to
do
the
best
that
they
can
with
what
they've
got
and
create
something
better
than
what
we're
seeing
with
the
unmanaged
areas.
M
M
I
can
come
and
bring
formula
that
person
went
and
met
them
and
became
an
ongoing
supporter
of
the
village,
and
the
reason
that
I
want
to
highlight
that
is
that
one
of
the
things
that
these
managed
and
supported
villages
create
that,
I
think,
is
so
important.
That
often
gets
not
really
overlooked
right,
but
you
know
so
they
provide
food,
they
provide
shelter,
they
provide.
You
know,
hygiene
services,
you
all
have
great
information
about.
All
of
that.
M
You
know
so
my
experience,
you
know-
and
I
didn't
you
know-
I
wasn't
deeply
involved
with
advocacy
work
or
anything
like
that
before
this
started,
but
I
am
absolutely
dedicated
to
supporting
this
village
to
be.
You
know
supported
and
managed
well
functioning
and
and
to
last,
as
long
as
it
needs
to
last,
you
know.
M
The
the
other
thing
that's
challenging
is
having
a
having
a
temporary
situation,
where
the
folks
in
the
villages
know
that
they're
gonna
have
to
move
somewhere
every
three
months,
but
they
have
no
idea
where
there's
there's,
no
there's
no
ability
for
them
to
relax
and
just
get
stable
and
address
their
needs.
So
I'm
I
really
support
this
model.
I
don't
think
that
it's
the
ultimate
answer
to
homelessness.
That
answer
is
holmes.
M
You
know
it
is
kind
of
basic,
but
there's
so
many
aspects
that
need
to
be
addressed
in
order
to
get
people
stable
so
that
getting
into
a
home
is
is,
is
a
good
option
for
them,
but
folks
need
an
accessible
step
in
the
right
direction
and
just
the
ability
to
have
a
place
to
get
hygiene
a
place
to
get
fed,
be
stable
and
create
a
community
network.
I
think,
is
life-changing
in
a
really
significant
way,
and
I
think
the
numbers
that
have
happened
from
these
villages
show
that.
N
N
L
You
like
willow,
I'm
not
a
professional,
we're
just
going
to
speak
from
our
heart
and
our
personal
experiences
with
doing
this
kind
of
work,
so
my
name
is
cinda
stenger
and
I
am
the
social
justice
outreach
leader
at
al
qaeda
united
church
of
christ,
and
I
came
to
know
camp
second
chance
because
my
church
raised
a
significant
amount
of
money
to
build
tiny
houses
for
the
homeless.
But
we
had
no
idea
how
to
go
about
doing
that.
We
had
been
in
conversation
with
lehigh,
but
pretty
much
their
model
at
the
time
was
well.
L
You
need
to
go
figure
that
out
yourselves.
So
the
main
thing
we
needed
was
space.
We
learned
of
camp
second
chance
and
through
our
networks
and
decided
to
go
pay
them.
The
visit
and
the
first
thing
we
notice
upon
arrival
is
how
clean
and
tidy
and
respectful
and
welcoming
they
all
were
they
instantly
wanted
to
give
us
a
tour
they
want
to
show
they
want
to
educate.
They
want
to
have
everybody
know
openly
transparently
how
they
live
so
right
away.
L
L
Obviously
they
were
excited
and
then
we
set
about
not
only
building
setting
up
a
program
to
build
but
to
build
relationships.
We
had
raised
money
to
build
about
five
homes.
There
were
30
plus
tents
on
site.
We
knew
we
had
work
ahead
of
us,
but
we
went
ahead
and
got
started
and
something
really
interesting
started
to
happen.
L
People
people
who
were
donating
would
arrive
at
camp
and
drop
off
their
food
or
their
clothing
and
again
they're
they're
offered
a
tour
and
they
go
on
tour
and
they
come
back
and
they
see
what
we're
doing
they
go
home,
they
change
their
clothes,
they
grab
their
tools
and
they
come
back
and
they
join
us.
There's
something
really
magical
about
having
a
hands-on
program
that
directly
affects
people's
lives.
So
all
sorts
of
people
started
to
hear
about
this,
and
eventually
we
had.
We
had
an
architecture
firm
want
to
do.
L
L
It
immediately
disproved
and
broke
down
those
common
stereotypes
of
people
experiencing
homelessness
and
how
encampments
could
be
undesirable.
Absolute
opposite
happened.
These
volunteers
saw
how
rules
and
covenants
were
entered
into
by
the
campers
with
each
other
and
how
they
were
sustained.
They
saw
how
it
was
a
clean
and
sober
camp
that
practiced
harm
reduction,
compassion
and
it's
it's
not
a
coincidence.
They're
called
their
self-name
camp
second
chance.
They
give
themselves
second
chance.
L
They
they
kept
the
streets
clean
the
area
around
them.
They
would
go
into
the
green
belt
on
the
other
side
of
the
street
and
help
clean
up.
There
was
one
night
this
winter,
that
a
a
tree
came
down
the
middle
of
the
road
and
because
there
are
security,
24
7,
they
roused
other
campers
and
went
out
on
that
street
directed
traffic,
kept
the
community
safe
and
went
about
trying
to
move
that
tree.
They
are
excellent.
Neighbors.
L
These
volunteers
saw
how
participation
in
the
camp
is
priority.
Everyone
has
to
do
security,
parts
of
clean
up,
cleaning,
bathrooms
kitchen
management,
donation
management.
Everyone
is
required
to
be
a
part
of
the
community.
They
also
because
of
our
presence
there
in
building
developed
a
kind
of
habitat
for
humanity
model
that
they
said.
L
So
what
this
created
building
on
site,
with
the
campers
side
by
side,
it's
what
we
called
a
transformation
on
both
sides
of
the
chop
saw
so
not
only
is
the
camper
lifted
up
and
is
and
has
an
opportunity
to
tell
their
story
or
you
know,
communicate
at
whatever
level
they
would
like
relationships
were
built.
So
not
only
was
the
volunteer
transformed
in
that
relationship
with
the
camper
we
all
were.
The
whole
community
was
lifted
up.
My
personal
story,
I
I
painted
soffits
on
the
top
of
a
ladder.
L
John
was
on
the
tiny
house.
Next
to
me
on
the
top
of
his
ladder,
I
asked
him
hey.
You
know
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
I
learned
that
he
his
family
fled
cambodia.
He
was
two
years
old.
He
was
on
the
back
of
his
grandfather
crossing
the
killing
fields,
to
leave
cambodia
and
then
to
become
refugees
down
in
l.a
and-
and
I
and
I
could
just
see
the
trauma
that
he
and
his
community
had
been
through.
L
You
know
that
breaks
open
people's
hearts,
so
we
set
about
raising
money
which
basically
flowed
in
because
of
just
people
learning
about
what
we
were
doing.
The
community
was
so
generous.
We
probably
raised
over
80
000
and
we
were
able
to
move
every
single
person
out
of
a
tent
and
into
a
tiny
house
and-
and
I
and
I
can't
even
begin
to
express
the
joy
that
it
is
so
get
choked
up
about.
N
N
L
So
we
had
the
privilege
of
volunteers
becoming
leaders
that
came
up
in
the
program
and
volunteers
and
those
leaders
become
advocates.
They
become
activists
it.
You
just
have
this
natural
community
of
people
who
will
gather
together
and
rally,
and
we
willow-
and
I,
with
other
community
leaders,
had
to
I
don't
know
every
six
months
we
had
to
meet
with
the
city
in
order
to
have
camp
second
chance
have
their
lease
extended.
We
we,
it
wasn't
a
huge
fight.
L
The
cc
acts
as
a
like
liaison
between
the
neighborhoods
and
the
village
in
the
city,
so
willow
and
I
and
our
team
we
become
strong
advocates,
but
we
also
hear
out
the
public
and
the
neighborhoods
and
the
biggest
pushback
in
in
the
neighborhoods.
Beyond
what
willard
described.
There's
some
equity
issues
in
the
city
with
west
seattle.
L
We
have,
like-
I
don't
know,
100
000
people
living
on
this
peninsula,
we're
almost
like
our
own
little
city
and
there's
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
fairness
between
the
different
neighborhoods
and
and
we
miss
out
on
a
lot
of
different
things,
and
their
main
thing
was:
why
do
homeless
encampments
keep
happening
in
our
neighborhood?
Why
aren't
they
happening
in
other,
wealthier
neighborhoods?
So,
as
you
consider
your
sighting,
you
need
to
make
sure
that
all
different
types
of
neighborhoods
are
receiving
what
we
see
as
a
benefit
of
a
sanctioned,
tiny
house
village.
L
B
Wonderful
well,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
powerful
and
amazing
story,
and
I
think
it's
been
just
so
fortunate
for
us
to
be
able
to
hear
from
people
from
outside
from
denver
and
also
your
story
from
seattle.
So
I
think
that
a
great
deal
we're
running
a
little
bit
behind.
I
just
want
everybody
to
know.
We
have
two
sections
left
that
we
wanted
to
get
to
which
was
a
response
from
our
panel.
B
So
we
have
some
local
folks
here
who
are
experts
in
homelessness,
encampments,
shelters,
and
then
we
want
to
have
a
little
time
for
questions
and
answered.
We
have
10
minutes
we
set
aside
for
the
panelists,
which
is
going
to
get
us
awfully
close
to
3
o'clock,
so
people
can
stay
a
few
minutes
later
and
remember
to
be
concise.
B
I
think
I'm
going
to
let
you
know
that
I
had
three
questions
in
mind
or
we
had
three
questions
in
mind
to
ask
of
this
fabulous
group
of
panelists
that
we
have
local
experts
and
I'm
going
to.
Let
you
maybe
introduce
yourselves
when
you
answer
this,
and
the
idea
is
that,
if
you
feel
like
you
have
a
response,
you
can
make
it
I'll,
let
you
know
the
three
questions
and
then
I'll
ask
one.
B
I
want
to
hear
about
maybe
highest
priorities
for
encampments
that
you
have,
as
in
your
organization,
hear
about
your,
you
think,
are
the
biggest
challenges
that
encampments
pose
to
the
community.
But,
first
of
all,
I
think
I'll
just
ask
you:
where
do
you
see
opportunities
to
implement
programs
like
we've
seen
in
denver
and
seattle?
Do
you
think,
there's
opportunities
to
do
that?
If
so,
where
how?
How
does
it
fit
with
what
you're
doing
now?
Anybody
want
to
respond
to
that
on
our
fabulous
panel.
B
O
Sorry,
sorry,
I've
gotta
I've
got
some
audio
running
on
mine,
so
the
oh,
it's
super
distracting
hang
on,
I'm
sorry
there
we
go.
So
I
think
that
there's
some
interesting
elements
to
the
to
the
the
projects
that
were
presented.
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
I
mean
our
community,
as
I
was
already
has
already
been
alluded
to.
O
We
are
in
a
state
of
flux
in
terms
of
what
this
crisis
response
looks
like
on
the
front
end
of
for
folks
who
are
experiencing
homelessness,
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
that
it's
what
the
service
offerings
today
are
radically
different
than
they
were
two
years
ago
to
be
able
to
have,
or
if
we
go
back
four
years
ago,
then
we
can
say
that
from
that
point
forward,
what
we
did
is
we
specialized.
You
know
in
terms
of
long-term
versus
cri
versus
short-term
shelter
opportunities.
O
We
added
the
hotels
we.
We
have
these
exciting
pilots
going
on
around
the
cultural,
culturally
specific
aicdc
shelter
program,
as
well
as
the
the
indoor
tiny
villages
model
which
might
be
more
appropriate
for
a
minnesota
climate
and
see
how
so
there's
there's
it's
a
little
bit
challenging
to
be
thinking
about
what
new
to
bring
in
while
we
are
in
the
midst
of
what
I
consider.
What
feels
to
me
like
a
pilot
stage,
so
that's
one
just
kind
of
a
lay
of
the
land
sort
of
thing
I
do
have
to.
O
I
do
have
to
qualify
that
that
simpson,
we
are
not
doing
any
active
sort
of
street
outreach.
You
know
we
are
operating
shelter.
We
are
moving
people
into
permanent
housing,
so
so
I
do
need
to
qualify
things
a
bit
in
fairness
to
some
of
my
peers,
who
are
doing
some
of
that
heavy
lifting
out
in
in
in
encampments
and
so
forth.
O
There
was
a
lot
of
really
hard
days
in
terms
of
of
of
what
that
shared
trauma
looked
like
for
for
all
the
folks
that
we
were
working
with.
And
that
being
said,
the
reason
why
we
did.
It
was
very
simply
that
our
agency
holds
firm
to
the
belief
that
everyone
deserves
access
to
safe
and
sustainable
housing,
and
I
and
I
I
believe
that
a
lot
of
us
here
share
that
value
and
I
hope
that
there's
ways
to
move
some
of
this
stuff
forward.
So
thanks
for
letting
me
be
here,
cam.
B
P
Yep,
it's
excuse
me
john
trivette,
from
st
stephen's
human
services
associate
director
of
the
outreach
team
here,
and
you
know
I
just
first.
I
want
to
just
reiterate
what
other
people
have
spoken
about.
We've
made
some
really
strong
advances
in
our
community,
particularly
around
some
of
the
sheltering
options,
and
I
won't
go
through
them
other
than
to
just
say
you
know,
having
female
identified
culturally
specific
and
some
novel
approaches
are
really
some
critical
steps
forward.
P
I
would
I
will
say
that,
there's
an
issue
of
scale,
you
know
we,
we
don't
have
enough
of
those
kind
of
spaces.
Currently,
I'm
intrigued
by
a
lot
of
the
options
that
were
explored
by
the
group
from
both
denver
and
seattle,
and
just
thinking
about
the
possibility
of
one
piece
of
a
larger
puzzle.
Really,
a
mosaic
of
solutions
might
involve
some
form
of
safe
spaces
in
our
community.
It
could
be
safe
parking,
it
could
be
these
encampments,
it
could
be
tiny
homes
in
some
capacity.
P
I
think
the
biggest
challenge
that
we
see
facing
people
I
mean
there's
a
lot,
a
lot
of
challenges.
One
thing
is
the:
is
the
unpredictability
around
the
policy
for
addressing
encampments
in
in
the
city
of
minneapolis
and
the
county
at
large,
and
with
that
then,
the
disruption
and
the
trauma
inflicted
on
the
people
through
these
forced
displacements
that
are
repeated
again
and
again
in
an
unpredictable
manner.
P
But
what
I've
also
heard
throughout
all
these
presentations
is
that
a
sense
of
safety
and
predictability
around
encampments,
whether
it's
something
that's
stabilized
for
a
longer
period
of
time
or
if
it's
even
going
to
be
a
camp?
That's
ultimately
going
to
be
evicted
from
a
location,
providing
a
predictable
period
of
time
that
that
camp
can
be
in
place
a
90-day
120-day
60-day.
P
Whatever
it
is,
it's
something
predictable
so
that
adequate
service
supports
can
be
brought
in,
which
also
brings
up
the
issue
of
capacity
and
whether
or
not
we
actually
have
the
boots
on
the
ground
and
able
to
to
do
the
level
of
work
that
that
we
need
to
do
and
really
all
this
just
is
undergirded
by
the
reality
of
just.
How
do
we
want
to
respond
because
the
trajectory
you
know
five
years
ago,
I
heard
the
scale
denver's
popped
up
five
years
ago.
B
Well,
thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
that,
and
maybe
what
we
could
do
is
just
give
each
one
of
our
panelists
an
opportunity
to
respond,
and
you
can
try
to
keep
it
to
a
minute
or
two
and
just
you
can
respond
generally
with
what
reactions
you
have
and
even
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
current
situation
and
the
challenges
and
opportunities
and
your
priorities.
B
Q
Hello:
everyone,
I'm
jack,
martin,
I'm
the
executive
director
of
south
side,
harm
reduction
services.
Thank
you
for
having
me
and
thank
you
willow
and
cinda.
That
was
really
really
great.
I
really
want
to
say
that
I
think
any
solution
going
forward
really
does
need
to
have
that
the
camper
and
like
participant
involvement
and
the
whole
community
aspect
is
something
that
is
often
overlooked
and
is
really
important
at
through
southside.
Q
We
are,
we
primarily
operate
a
mobile,
syringe
exchange,
offering
syringes,
naloxone
linkage,
disk
linkage
to
care
and
hiv
testing
among
other
other
services,
and
some
of
the
the
biggest
things
that
we
are.
The
most
important
issues
that
come
up
at
encampments
are
overdose
overdoses.
In
the
last
year,
there's
a
27
increase
in
fatal
overdoses.
Q
There's
an
hiv
outbreak,
like
many
people,
have
said,
and
it's
there
are
not
very
many
people
going
into
care,
there's
also
syphilis
and
hepatitis
c.
Hepatitis,
a
outbreak
among
and
covid
and
those
are
those
are
all
issues
that
are
just
happening
right
now
and
need
to
be
addressed
fairly
immediately,
and
I
think
that
the
way
that
the
current
evictions
are
happening,
like
john
said,
are
incredibly
traumatic
for
people,
and
we
have
participants,
say
things
like
they
could
be
engaging
with
services.
Q
They
could
be
going
after
and
trying
to
accomplish
these
different
goals
that
they
have
related
to
housing
or
health
care,
and
they
could
be
at
square
450
and
as
soon
as
an
eviction
happens,
they
go
back
to
square
one,
and
so
I
I
I
really
like
the
the
tiny
homes
I
love
our
participants
repeatedly
say
that
they
just
want
safe
spaces
and
really
want
to
have
have
ownership
over
their
space
and
yeah.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
having
me
again.
I
don't
want
to
take
up
too
much
time.
B
R
R
We
can't
continue
this
conversation
unless
we're
talking
about
addressing
some
of
those
systemic
changes
that
are
needed,
and
so,
as
far
as
like
opportunities
to
implement
like
the
tiny
house,
things
sound
so
great.
How
amazing
would
it
be
if
we
could
actually
like
hire
and
pay
people
who
are
living
in
these
encampments
to
build
these,
instead
of
being
a
volunteer
based
activity
right?
You
know
a
lot
of
the
folks
that
I
come
in
contact
with.
They
want
to
make
money.
R
They
want
to
have
their
own
money
that
they
can
spend
in
any
way
they
want
to.
When
we
think
about
the
don't
things
that
are
donated,
they
might
not
want
that
food.
They
might
not
want
that
hair
care
product,
so
we
just
need
to
be
mindful
of
the
that
we
don't
always
have
the
right
answers
for
what
they
need,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
putting
as
much
into
the
community
as
we
can
so
that
they're,
the
ones
benefiting
from
whatever
change
is
happening.
D
D
I
think
they
both
said
that
they
borrowed
drug
and
alcohol
use,
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
there
have
been
a
discussion
in
those
two
cities
or,
if
there's
a
discussion
here
about
making
safe
spaces
for
substance,
use
part
of
the
conversation
for
these
tiny
homes
or
for
these
camp
communities,
because
it
feels
like,
without
addressing
that
part
of
the
harm
reduction
without
applying
that
part,
that
harm
reduction
model.
To
these,
it's
really
hard
for
me
to
imagine
people
choosing
some
people
choosing
to
live
in
these
spots.
B
M
Yeah,
I
can
speak
to
that
real
quickly
and
thanks
so
much
for
asking
that
question.
I
also
think
that
it's
very
important
that
there
be
a
mixture
of
solutions
and
we
do
have
a
mixture
here
in
seattle.
Camp
second
chance
is
a
particular
camp.
That's
the
one
that
cinna
and
I
happen
to
work
closely
with.
They
came
to
our
area
with
their
own
rules
already
that
they
had
decided
within
their
camp,
and
that
was
one
of
that
was
one
of
their
decisions
that
they
made.
M
Lehigh
does
support,
or
at
least
has
supported
other
lower
barrier
options
and
currently,
with
the
with
some
of
the
adjustments
on
providing
services
through
the
pandemic.
Some
of
that
is
sort
of
suspended
with
camp
second
chance.
I
think
that,
like
stacy
was
saying,
it's
really
important
to
make
sure
that
you
include
the
folks
that
are
being
served
with
making
the
decisions,
and
I
think
a
mix
is
really
important.
I
myself
am
a
clean
and
sober
person.
I
would,
I
would
not
be
comfortable
in
a
low
barrier
encampment.
M
I
think
that
a
lot
of
people
who
are
out
there,
you
might
think
you
know
a
lot
of
people-
think
everyone's
on
drugs.
Many
of
them
are
actually
trying
to
get
clean
and
sober
or
have
been
clean
and
sober
know
that
they
need
to
be
and
need
to
be
in
a
clean
and
sober
environment.
In
order
to
do
that,
so
it's
important
to
have
those
as
well
but
low
barriers
and
just
as
important.
B
K
Sure
yeah,
I
think
you
know,
for
our
safe
outdoor
spaces
on
that
kind
of
scale,
from
completely
dry.
No
substance
he's
allowed
to
wet.
You
know
it's
regarded
as
in
that
damp
space
where,
if
folks
are
under
the
influence
of
a
substance,
you
know
they're
certainly
welcome
in
the
environment,
but
the
the
active
use
on
site
is
is
an
issue
I
think
of
the
social
sustainability
and
the
creation
of
that
space
within
the
neighborhood
that
it
was
situated.
B
K
Yeah,
certainly
I
mean
we
are
nowhere
near
the
scale
of
of
being
able
to
replace
unsanctioned
camping
within
denver
with
with
safe
outdoor
space
models.
We're
only
we're
only
running
three
of
them
sort
of
as
a
demonstration
of
that
programming
within
the
health
environment.
So
there
certainly
is
a
lot
of
of
unsanctioned
encampments.
K
What
I
can
say
our
best
bearing
on
on
the
impact,
though,
was
really
in
that
case,
study
of
sighting
the
first
or
opening
the
second
safe
outdoor
space
directly
across
the
street,
from
an
unsanctioned
encampment
and
seeing
what
change
that
brought
to
that
dynamic
of
people.
So
all
the
the
the
sanctioned
encampment
was
completely
filled
by
connections
that
were
just
across
the
street
in
an
unsanctioned
environment
that
was
aggregating.
A
number
of
police
calls
a
number
of
messages,
my
way
from
the
immediate
neighbors.
K
B
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
all
right
co-convener
we
have
to
decide
if
we're
going
to
go
a
few
more
minutes,
and
I
don't
see
any
council
members
with
burning
questions
to
ask,
but
I
think
maybe
we
could
take
three
more
questions.
If
somebody
has
it
and
maybe
if
it
isn't
for
many
of
my
colleagues
it's
from
anybody,
what
do
you
think
jeremiah.
F
Yeah,
I
think
that'd
be
great.
We
I
want
to
acknowledge
first,
I
want
to
thank
everyone
and
acknowledge
that
we
are
two
minutes
over
time
and
if
folks
are
able
to
stay
on
and
ask
their
questions
and
hear
from
this
awesome
panel,
I
would
welcome
that,
and
so
I
see
council
president
bender
in
the
queue
please
council,
president.
E
Thank
you
both
yeah,
I
just
I
know
we
don't
have
a
ton
of
time
to
go
into
the
details.
I
think
at
some
point
it
would
be
great
to
hear
more
from
these
in
other
cities
about
you
know
how
many
people
have
been
served.
What's
the
cost?
What's
the
cost
per
person,
I
know
that
there
is
some
cold
weather,
but
you
know
just
the
question
about
the
seasonality
here
here
in
minneapolis.
Of
course,
we
went
with
that
more
indoor
navigation
center
model
in
the
past,
so
yeah.
E
I
think
it
would
be
if,
if
there
is
interest
in
continuing
this
conversation
from
a
more
policy
approach
around
next
steps,
I
think
some
of
those
detailed
questions
I
just
realized
my
camera
was
off.
Some
of
those
detailed
questions
about
costs
would
be
helpful
and
I
think
I
just
also
wanted
to
note
that
I
think
it
was
in
the
austin
presentation
for
the
arpa
funding
that
or
maybe
it
was
denver
or
seattle.
E
There
was
a
city
that
was
experimenting
with
direct
payments
to
folks
who
were
experiencing
homelessness,
and
so
I
I'm
just
curious
to
hear.
I
just
think
it's
really
beneficial
for
us
to
hear
about
the
experience
of
other
cities
and
to
really
keep
challenging
ourselves
to
you
know,
push
further
and
take
in
all
the
information
we
have
both
here
locally
from
all
the
great
panels
that
we
heard
from
here,
who
have
the
deep
experience
in
our
community
and
then
also
get
the
the
perspective
from
other
cities.
B
Q
F
F
We,
you
know,
we
know
the
state
legislature
is
helping
us
helping
folks
sort
of
slowly
ramp
off
of
the
eviction
moratorium,
but
at
some
point
it
will
end
and
and
and
we
are
likely
to
see
more
people
hitting
the
streets,
and
so
I
think
so.
I
think
it's
it's
it's
incredibly
important
for
us
to
get
all
these
perspectives,
and-
and
again
I
just
want
to
thank
all
of
our
presenters,
we're
so
lucky
to
have
folks
who
have
been
brave
enough
to
try
this
model
in
other
cities.
F
O
That
is
exactly
the
sort
of
scaled
response
that
might
put
us
in
a
place
when
we
house
2
thousand
people
in
hennepin
county
in
a
year
at
the
end
of
the
year,
we
actually
have
2
000
people
less
experiencing
homelessness
instead
of
managing
this
churn.
So
thinking
about
housing
stability
is
also
totally
relevant
to
this
conversation
on
resources.
Sorry.
F
S
O
If
I
may,
council
member
the
simple,
the
simple
answer
to
that
question
is
that
we
have
we
have
so
many
people
who
are
precariously
housed,
who
you
know
can
barely
afford
their
rent,
and
so
there
is
a
there.
It's
a
it's
a
paycheck
away
or
a
personal
crisis
away
or
something.
You
know
that
the
number
of
folks
who
are
who
are
precariously
housed,
meaning
that
they're
rent
burdened
is
much
much
higher
than
the
number
of
folks
who
are
currently
experiencing
homelessness.
O
K
I'd
just
add
that
anytime,
we're
looking
at
a
number
on
homelessness,
bear
in
mind
that
that's
that's,
not
a
static
number.
So
our
point
in
time
measures
you
know:
denver's
4,
100,
almost
4
200
people
who
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
are
are
experiencing
homelessness
at
at
a
point
in
time.
So
if
I
had
4
200
units
put
all
them
into
that
housing,
would
the
city
of
denver
be
stabilized?
K
Yes,
but
for
a
matter
of
time,
right
homelessness
would
would
eventually
befall
a
new
cast
of
folks
new
cohort
of
folks
that
we
would
need
to
to
respond
to
so
I'd.
Look
to
you,
there's
the
the
notion
of
a
functional
zero
measure
that
looks
at
balancing
the
the
amount
of
housing
opportunity
coming
in
with
the
the
pace
that
people
are
are
establishing
homelessness.
It's
always
always
important
to
remember
that
housing.
We
don't
talk
about
it
as
a
supply
side
issue,
but
it
really
is
it's
not
it's
not
the
demand.