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D
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E
B
The
record
that
reflect
that
we
do
have
a
quorum
and
again
councilmember
mike,
is
expected
to
join
shortly.
Colleagues,
today
we
have
five
items
on
our
consent
agenda
I'll
go
ahead
and
read
those
for
the
record
item.
Sorry,
we
have
11
items
on
the
consent
agenda,
starting
with
item
five
passage
of
a
resolution
requiring
requesting
municipal
state
aid
system
revisions.
B
Eight
is
authorizing
a
contract
with
the
university
of
new
mexico
for
stormwater
asset
management,
expert
facilitation
services
item
9
authorizing
a
contract
with
an
agreement
with
the
university
of
minnesota
for
the
reconstruction
of
8th
street
southeast
10
is
authorizing
an
agreement
with
the
city
of
st
paul
for
the
twin
cities.
Electric
vehicle
mobility
network
item,
11
passage
of
resolutions
amending
the
2021
street
resurfacing
program
to
add
three
additional
projects:
west
54th
street
franklin
avenue,
west
and
53rd
avenue
north
to
the
program
and
setting
public
hearings
for
those
projects
on
june.
B
9
2021
in
this
committee
and
12
is
approving
small
wireless
collection
agreement,
form
revisions
for
the
regulation
of
infrastructure
and
attachments
within
city
managed
public
right-of-way,
approving
the
appointments
of
frank,
magua
and
steve
havoc
to
the
lowry
hill
special
service
district
advisory
board
item
14,
accepting
the
low
bid
of
all
phase
contracting
incorporated
for
catch
basin
and
manhole
repair
and
item
15.
Accepting
the
low
bid
of
states
manufacturing
corporation
for
the
fridley
campus
electrical
rehab
switch
gear
project
and
move
the
consent
agenda.
G
G
B
B
B
Over
to
director
jelly
to
or
staff
to
start
off
with
this
presentation.
D
Thank
you,
council
president
bender
bill
fellowes,
our
senior
professional
engineer
with
transportation,
engineering
and
design
will
introduce
this
item.
H
H
H
H
All
affected
property
owners
have
now
been
notified
in
a
second
informational
meeting
was
held
on
april
15th
last
week.
Today.
Public
works
is
asking
city
council
to
pass
the
revised
resolutions,
ordering
the
work
to
proceed,
adopting
the
special
assessments
authorizing
sale
of
the
assessment
bonds
and
authorizing
the
abandonment
and
removal
of
any
area
ways
in
conflict
with
the
project.
B
I
Thank
you.
Council
president.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
city
staff
for
really
excellent
outreach
work
on
this
project.
The
reason
that
there's
no
buddy
and
queue-
I
think
for
public
hearing
is
that
people
feel
very
heard
on
this
project
and
a
lot
of
good
outreach
happened
to
all
the
stakeholders
around
this
couple
of
blocks.
It's
an
exciting
project.
It's
going
to
open
up
some
nice
access
in
a
place
that
could
use
some
attention.
So
I
appreciate
the
work
and
I'm
happy
to
move
approval
of
this
item.
B
B
G
G
B
A
Thank
you,
director,
jelly
and
members
of
the
committee
mike
kennedy.
I'm
the
director
of
transportation,
maintenance,
repair
for
minneapolis
public
works,
we're
here
for
the
26th
and
28th
street
resurfacing
projects
which
are
part
of
the
2021
resurfacing
program
on
december
18
2020,
the
city
council
designated
the
location
streets
and
improvements
proposed.
We
made
in
this
program
26
and
28th
street
resurfacing.
A
The
purpose
of
the
asphalt
pavement
resurfacing
program
is
to
extend
the
life
of
some
city
streets
which
are
not
scheduled
for
any
preventative
maintenance,
renovation
or
reconstruction
in
the
foreseeable
future.
This
resurfacing
program
is
addressing
city
streets,
which
includes
some
municipal
state
aid
streets
that
are
at
a
point
and
their
life
cycle,
where
a
new
surface
will
extend
the
street's
life,
improve
ride,
quality
and
neighborhood
livability
and
help
slow
the
overall
deterioration
of
our
city
street
system.
A
This
proposed
street
resurfacing
special
assessments
were
determined
by
applying
a
2021
uniform
assessment
rate
to
the
land
area
of
the
benefited
parcels
located
within
the
street
influence
zone
along
the
improved
streets.
These
assessments
are
not
calculated
based
on
city
project
cost
alone.
The
city
uses
a
formula
that
combines
influence
area
with
the
with
an
annually
established
uniform
assessment
rate.
This
formula
is
carefully
considered
and
applied
by
city
staff,
and
it
is
intended
to
account
for
and
reflect
each
project's
value
to
the
benefited
properties.
A
A
There
was
a
neighborhood
meeting
scheduled
and
held
on
april
14th,
the
virtual
meeting
there
were
197
invitations
sent
out
and
zero
people
attended.
The
meeting
so
therefore,
I'm
here
today
to
recommend
passage
of
resolution
ordering
the
work
to
proceed
and
adopting
the
special
assessments
in
the
amount
they
were
enumerated
earlier
for
this
project
and
passage
of
resolution
requesting
the
board
of
estimate,
taxation
to
authorize
the
city's
issuance
and
sale
of
assessments,
bonds,
assessment
bonds
in
the
same
amount.
A
That
concludes
my
presentation.
We
did
have
one
letter
sent
in
with
comments
from
a
resident
it
didn't
address.
The
the
paving
program
or
assessments
did
make
comments
on
that.
They
would
like
to
see
some
improvements
and
changes
in
the
barrier,
type
and
geometric
changes
in
the
road
which
are
well
beyond
the
scope
of
this
project,
so
they
are
not
included,
but
those
comments
did
come
in
from
one
one
person
again.
I
can
be
here
for
questions
if
needed,.
B
Thanks
dr
kennedy,
I'll
note
for
the
record
that
we've
been
joined
by
chair
reich,
I
can
go
ahead
and
wrap
up
this
item
and
then
turn
the
chair
back
over
for
the
next
item,
which
will
be
item
three
on
the
agenda
for
the
chair.
I
do
have
this.
B
This
project
is
in
ward
10,
so
I
do
just
have
either
a
question
or
a
comment
back
in
I
don't
remember
2016-17
or
so
there
was
a
stand-alone
safety
project,
maybe
even
started
as
early
as
2015
in
the
eastern
section
that
was
really
seeking
to
address
the
particularly
pedestrian
safety
issues
in
this
corridor.
B
There
have
been
some
crashes,
particularly
in
the
east
side
and
that
included
a
protected
bikeway
in
this
corridor
and
at
the
time
there
was
some
discussion
about
this
project,
then
that
was
four
or
five
years
away,
the
resurfacing
project
being
an
opportunity
to
revisit
the
road
and
look
at
potentially
adding
some
more
permanent
improvements
for
bicycle
and
pedestrian
safety
in
the
corridor.
I
did
have
the
chance
to
check
in
with
mr
koster,
so
I'm
happy
to
say
what
I
heard
there
or,
if
it'd
be
better
to
just
ask
staff.
B
If
you
could
talk
about
the
sort
of
future
opportunities
in
this
quarter
again
I'll
just
I'll
just
ask
and
then,
if
it's
better
for
me
to
just
kind
of
relay
for
the
public
record
which
what
I
heard
from
mr
koster
I'm
happy
to
do.
That
too.
D
Council
president
bender,
I
can
jenny,
hager
is
on
the
call
director
of
transportation,
planning
and
programming,
and
I
think
she
should
be
able
to
answer
that
question.
J
Thank
you
console
president
bender
and
director
jelly
jenny,
hager,
director
of
transportation,
planning
and
programming,
and
I'm
happy
to
address
the
question
or
comment.
That's
on
the
table.
We
we
are
aware
that
there
is
desire
and
we
have
desire
as
well
to
upgrade
the
protected
bikeway
facility
design.
We
opted
to
not
do
that
in
conjunction
with
the
resurfacing
of
26th
and
28th
streets
this
year,
because
of
some
projects
in
the
area
that
we
want
to
be
aware
of
and
ensure
that
we
are
fully
coordinated
with
when
we
do
finalize
an
upgraded
design.
J
So
there's
the
hennepin
avenue
reconstruction
project
that
is
in
the
pipeline
and
and
being
worked
on
now
from
a
community
engagement
and
pre-design
phase,
there's
also
going
to
be
a
hcip,
a
highway
safety
improvement
project
along
the
corridor
between
emerson
and
dumont
dupont
in
the
to
2024-2025
time
frame.
So
we
want
to
be
fully
informed
with
those
projects
and
what
their
designs
are
and
what
the
potential
needs
might
be
for
design
alterations
to
accommodate
what
happens
with
both
of
those
projects.
So
we
will
look
for
a
future
upgrade
on
the
quarter.
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
appreciate
that
because,
as
as
you
know,
and
as
you
hear
frequently,
I
I
know
that
folks
are
often
hearing.
You
know
we'll
do
that
in
the
future.
We'll
do
that
in
the
future
and
especially
the
public
works
projects.
They're
often
you
know,
funds
are
coming
through
different
sources
or
part
of
different
kinds
of
projects.
B
We
are
going
to
have
a
meeting
soon
with
the
chair
just
to
talk
through
what
are
some
good
next
steps
to
make
sure
that
if
we
are
altering
the
bike
master
plan
in
ward,
10
bordering
ward
7
in
this
part
of
town
that
we're
understanding
the
system
impacts
of
that.
Of
course,
that
was
just
recently
kind
of
re-blasted
or
re-adopted
as
part
of
the
transportation
action
plan.
B
Not
too
long
ago
and
again,
removing
the
hennepin
quarter
from
the
bike
master
plan
would
have
pretty
significant
impacts
that
have
added
delay
for
31st
street
pedestrian
projects
are
informing
the
timing
of
the
26th
and
28th
streets
safety
improvements.
So
I
think
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
that
we
understand
the
system
plan
for
this
part
of
town
and
and
are
able
to
proceed
so
thanks
to
staff.
B
I
appreciate
just
having
that
in
the
record,
especially
as
these
projects
kind
of
tend
to
be
multi-year,
it
will
be
a
decade
from
start
to
finish
of
of
the
26th
and
28th
street
corridor,
any
other
questions
or
comments
before
we
open
the
public
hearing.
B
B
G
F
J
K
Thank
you,
president.
Bender
yeah.
We
have
some
good
news
coming
from
met
council
in
terms
of
some
of
our
infrastructure,
but
I
will
save
that
for
another
time
and
go
to
item
three
and
yield
the
florida
staff.
D
A
Thank
you
again,
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee.
This
is
the
second
project
in
the
2021
resurfacing
program.
The
public
hearing
today.
This
again
is
for
the
aldrich
avenue
and
ontario
avenue
north
street
resurfacing
project.
A
On
december
18
2020,
the
city
council
designated
the
location
streets.
An
improvement
proposed
be
made
in
this
program.
This
project
includes
aldrich
avenue
north
in
ontario
avenue
north
aldrich.
A
These
streets
are
bounded
by
I-394
and
dunwoody
boulevard
and
lindale
avenue.
As
shown
on
the
map,
that's
up
they're
residential
streets.
They
were
constructed
in
1931
and
1968
respectively
and
have
pci's
of
46
to
74..
A
I
won't
go
into,
I
won't
repeat
the
the
purpose
of
the
program.
I
think
we
heard
that
earlier
the
proposed
streets,
research
and
special
assessments
again
were
determined
by
the
applying
the
2021
uniform
assessment
rates
for
the
same
reasons
before
same
rates:
66
cents
per
square
foot
for
non-residential
and
22
cents
per
square
foot
for
residential.
A
The
proposed
total
assessment
for
amount
for
this
project
is
one
hundred
and
twenty
nine
thousand
one
hundred
seventy
six
dollars
and
fifty
five
cents.
We
did
not
hold
a
neighborhood
meeting
for
this.
There
were
two
property
owners
staff
simply
reached
out
to
them
and
talked
to
them.
Both
were
supportive
of
the
project
and
assessments.
A
K
E
K
That
is
approved
and
removed
full
council.
I
believe
we
now
can
move
into
our
public
hearing
number.
Four
again,
I
will
give
the
floor
to
the
staff.
H
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
chairman
wright
and
members
of
that
committee.
Again,
my
name
is
phil
tells
I'm
a
senior
professional
engineer
with
transportation,
engineering
and
design
division
of
public
works
and
I'm
presenting
for
the
public
hearing
for
the
2021
concrete
streets,
rehabilitation
program.
H
It
includes
portions
of
46th,
street
east
and
34th
avenue
south
the
repair
of
concrete,
consists
of
removing
and
replacing
deteriorated
areas
of
the
pavement.
Other
improvements
include
upgrades
to
select
pedestrian
ramps,
replacement
of
select
curb
and
gutter,
and
a
diamond
grind
resurfacing
of
the
street
pavement.
H
H
K
C
K
K
Not
seeing
or
hearing
that
I
will
close
this
public
hearing
thanks
staff
for
the
report,
and
I
think
this
is
a
you
know-
a
really
good
example
of
how
we're
stretching
our
dollars
to
in
the
name
of
our
system,
and
that
allows
us
to
do
the
more
ambitious
work
we
have
more
resources.
Otherwise
this
would
have
been
a
full
reconstruct
at
this
location
and
obviously
this
is
a
less
expensive
but
treatment.
K
That's
really
proven
itself
in
our
other
test
areas,
the
life
that
has
been
demonstrated
from
our
earliest
examples
of
our
pilots
they've
been
well,
quite
frankly,
solid.
So
I
appreciate
staff's
work
on
this
and
I
always
want
to
highlight
how
these
sort
of
treatments,
in
addition
to
our
20
million
dollar
additional
investments,
are
really
moving
our
agenda
forward
in
our
right-of-way
with
that.
Is
there
any
other
comments
from
committee
members
and
this
item's
been
moved
I'll?
Ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
role.
F
G
K
That
passes-
and
we
can
now
go
to
our
final
item,
which
is
a
discussion
item
item
16
on
the
agenda,
and
this
is
a
receiving
file.
It's
a
hiawatha
maintenance
facility.
Campus
sort
of
an
update
is
part
of
the
motivation
for
today's
presentation,
but
the
other
was
to
have
some
renewed
refresh
background
for
some
subsequent
discussions
that
will
be
happening
in
other
committees
in
terms
of
a
report,
an
eaw
report
and
other
related
conversations.
So
this
was
we
felt
timely
background
and
I
will
give
the
floor
to
director
jelly.
D
Thank
you,
council,
member
reich
and
committee
members.
I
am
brett
shelley
interim
director
of
public
works,
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
give
an
update
on
the
hiawatha
campus
maintenance
facility
expansion,
as
chair
reich
mentioned,
just
want
to
note.
The
the
eaw
or
environmental
assessment
worksheet
is
is
in
going
through
its
process,
and
this
will
be
a
presentation
where
I
will
I'll
cover
a
few
items
and
then
turn
it
over
to
bob
frittle
from
finance
and
property
services.
Who
will
give
an
update
on
the
project
itself?
D
So
if
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
please.
D
And
one
more,
thank
you
so
just
want
to
use
this
opportunity
to
do
a
quick
recap
of
why
why
this
project
has
been
proposed
and
is
in
process
a
little
bit
of
the
history
and
then
the
big
one
of
the
big
updates.
Just
since
the
last
time
this
was
presented
to
this
committee
is
the
work
that's
been
done
by
the
project
team
and
finance
and
property
services
with
our
with
our
architects
and
how
the
project
is
is
taking
shape
at
this
point.
D
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
there's
really,
as
I
described
kind
of
the
needs
of
this
project,
there's
three
large
operational
needs.
We
need
a
new
water
distribution
facility.
D
We
also
have
staff
in
our
surface
water
and
sewers
division
that
are
currently
at
a
temporary
location
and
we'd
like
to
consolidate
them
and
then
by
doing
that
and
utilizing
the
entire
campus,
we
have
some
opportunities
just
to
work,
smarter
and
more
efficiently
and
better
serve
the
residents
of
minneapolis
next
slide,
so
the
water
water
facility-
this
is
water,
treatment
and
distribution,
is
our
division.
This
is
specifically
the
distribution
function.
D
We
treat
over
55
million
gallons
a
day-
that's
almost
17
billion
gallons
of
water
on
an
annual
basis,
the
maintenance
kind
of
tasks
that
go
with
that
we
have
a
thousand
miles
plus
of
water
mains,
8,
000,
plus
fire
hydrants,
many
many
many
water
meters
and
valves.
So
these
are
the
types
of
things
that
this
group,
in
particular,
maintains
on
a
daily
basis.
Next
slide.
D
So
this
group
currently
works
out
of
a
facility
at
935
fifth
avenue
southeast
it's
most
commonly
known
as
the
water
yard.
The
facility
is
100
years
old.
It
sits
on
a
footprint,
that's
undersized
for
the
operation
at
two
and
a
half
acres.
We
have
about
a
hundred
full-time
equivalents
or
100
people
working
out
of
this
location,
and
it
is
also
noted,
as
a
as
a
future
location
for
a
new
fire
station.
11.
D
So
a
100
year
old
building
comes
with
some
some
challenges,
it's
it
needs
repairs
and
because
it
has
been
identified
and
we've
been
working
for
a
number
of
years
on
replacing
the
facility.
You
know
that
that
kind
of
impacts,
preventive
maintenance
schedule
and
what
large
investments
we
made
to
facility
that
we
won't
be
using
in
the
long
run.
So
you
can
see
in
the
first
picture,
just
top
left
corner.
You
can
see,
you
know
some
ceiling
and
wall
damage.
D
You
know
facilities
that
were
built
this
long
ago,
you're
kind
of
using
rooms
in
unique
ways.
So
this
is
a
lock
or
slash
conference
room
rather
than
kind
of
having
separate
facilities,
and
then
we
also
have
ada
compliance
issues
with
our.
D
Particularly
stairs
and
needing
to
both
enter
the
facility,
and
then
internally,
it's
not
ada
compliant.
So
that's
just
a
quick
overview
on
the
water
distribution
slide.
The
next
slide
will
kind
of
touch
on
surface
water
and
sewer,
so
there's
kind
of
two
components
to
this,
and
the
first
is
we
do,
as
I
mentioned,
have
30
plus
staff
working
out
of
a
temporary
location
at
the
public
service
center.
That's
a
it's
a
building
that
the
city
is
not
intending
to
keep
long-term.
D
The
plan
is
to
move
those
staff
to
hiawatha
to
join
over
a
hundred
members
of
the
same
division.
The
work
kind
of
a
daily
work
for
this
group
includes
our
ponds:
sanitary,
lift
stations,
storm
water
pump
stations.
D
We
also
do
a
lot
of
storm
water
education
and
protecting
the
water
quality
in
in
our
lakes,
rivers
and
streams,
and
you
can
sign,
there's
a
couple
of
pictures
that
just
kind
of
show
that
type
of
work
that
this
group
does
so
then,
on
the
third
item:
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
we
have
just
some
general
operational
improvements
that
are,
I
think,
are
something
that
are
worth
highlighting.
This
is
by
bringing
all
of
our
surface
water
and
sewer
staff
to
one
location.
D
They
really
are
able
to
have
coordination
between
the
planning
of
the
work,
the
modeling
of
their
work,
our
regulatory
aspects,
operations.
I
think,
in
my
experience.
Just
generally,
when
you
have
a
working
group
co-located
in
one
location,
it
helps
with
collaboration
and
communication.
So
that
is
one
of
one
of
the
benefits
from
an
operational
standpoint
with
our
water
treatment,
our
water
distribution
staff,
keeping
them
in
a
central
city
will
improve
their
response
times.
This
is
there
are
situations
where
they
have
emergency
response
to
water
main
breaks.
D
Sometimes
we
have
small
breaks,
but
we
can
have
very
significant
breaks
where
time
is
of
the
essence.
So
staying
in
a
central
location
in
the
city
is
beneficial
from
that
point
of
view,
when
I
improve
fleet
maintenance,
so
one
of
the
things
this
project
will
allow
is
us
to
move
some
of
our
fleet
staff
and
have
a
presence
at
this
facility
just
makes
it
more
convenient,
which
means
we're
we're
able
to
do
preventive
maintenance
when
needed.
It
also
reduces
vehicle
trips.
D
So
normally
these
these
vehicles
would
be
making
a
trip
to
our
royalston
or
curry,
facilities
for
maintenance,
and
we
could
avoid
that
improved
site,
circulation
and
flow.
Just
an
opportunity
to
connect
from
26th
to
28th
is
very
helpful.
You
know
it
showed
the
pictures
of
kind
of
the
current
working
facility
at
east
yard.
You
can
imagine
that
a
new
modern
facility
will
improve
working
conditions
for
employees.
D
You
know
these
are
items
that
I'll
touch
on
in
a
little
bit
around
the
types
of
jobs
that
we
bring
with
our
operations
and
the
benefits
of
having
a
very
high
quality
job
center
within
with
the
training
and
recruitment
facility
and
then
prioritizing
space
for
operations.
I've
had
to
talk
about
this
in
other
areas
where
you
know,
generally
speaking,
we're
shrinking
our
footprint.
D
As
far
as
how
much
property
we
are
on
to
operate
as
a
department-
and
that's
that's
required
us
to
use
space
more
efficiently-
and
you
know,
one
aspect
of
this
project
is
structured
parking
and
we
just
recently
opened
our
east
side
maintenance
facility
at
27th
and
university
in
northeast
and
that
that
included
structured
parking,
and
you
can
really
see
how
it
allows
us
to
be
on
a
smaller
piece
of
land
kind
of
shrink.
Our
overall
footprint
and
still
accomplish
our
goals
for
operating.
G
D
I
just
that's
a
little
background
on
the
three
kind
of
operational
things
we're
looking
to
accomplish
overview
of
the
project
history
next
slide,
30
years
this
this
idea
has
been
around.
So
this
is
a
very
early
1991,
comprehensive
facility
master
plan.
I
think
at
the
time
might
have
been
lands
and
buildings
division
that
was
in
public
works,
but,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
both
the
existing
campus
on
the
north
and
the
current
roof
depot
property
on
the
south.
D
D
So
that
master
plan
hung
around
for
a
little
while
and
then
in
2001,
the
council
authorized
discussions
for
roof
depot
acquisition
that
didn't
come
to
fruition,
but
the
city
did
make
a
decision
and
move
forward
with
a
phase.
One
consolidation
and
that's
in
2010.,
so
next
slide
will
show
the
one
of
the
elements
of
of
that
work.
So
the
phase
one
project
focused
on
really
had
a
heavy
focus
on
a
good
environmental
practices
that
achieved.
D
D
You
know
today
our
transportation,
maintenance
and
repair
kind
of
headquartered
out
of
this
location,
taking
care
of
thousand
plus
miles
of
streets
and
and
all
of
the
other
work.
And
then,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
portion
of
surface
water
and
sewers
is
there
in
the
next
slide
shows
when
this
is
an
aerial
view.
Pre-2000,
the
hiawatha
campus
had
a
asphalt
plant,
a
concrete
plant
on
site,
and
you
can
see
even
then
kind
of
a
change
in
operations.
We
decommissioned
those
two
operations
and
in
that
phase
one
consolidation.
D
We
had
a
facility
at
44th
and
snelling,
where
we
consolidated
those
operations
at
this
location
next
slide
and
now
actions
kind
of
picked
up
a
little
bit.
So
in
2015
there
was
an
approval
to
negotiate
the
acquisition
of
the
roof
depot
in
2016.
The
council
authorized
that
and
we
took
control
of
it
in
june
of
2016.
D
D
What
type
of
room
could
be
set
aside
if,
if
desired,
for
community
uses,
and
eventually
in
december
of
2018,
the
city
council
approved
a
master
plan
that
is
really
kind
of
one
of
the
key
actions
that
has
taken
us
to
today.
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
just
a
highlight
of
during
that
conversation,
one
of
the
things
that
was
really
important
is
the
training
and
outreach
facility.
D
So,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
have
a
lot
of
employees
working
out
of
that
facility,
and
these
are
good
good
jobs,
living
wage
with
benefits,
and
you
know
many
of
them
are
doing
focused
on
work.
That's
you
know,
keeping
our,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
lakes
and
streams
and
creeks
clean,
providing
clean
drinking
water
with
our
water
distribution
group
and
since
2012
we've
hired
over
200
employees
that
work
out
of
this
facility
or
what
is
envisioned
as
the
new
facility.
D
These
positions
can
range
from
being
a
public
works
trainee,
which
is
something
we've
developed
to
bring
people
in,
but
also
up
to
our
top
engineering,
technical
positions
and
supervisory
positions.
D
So,
as
we
look
to
the
future
on
the
next
slide,
you
can
just
see
this
is
recently
updated,
we're
still
planning
on
or
expecting
to
see
a
lot
of
turnover
over
the
next
10
years.
I.
D
If
you
look
at
that,
2021
bar
that
is
kind
of
the
backlog
of
people
who
were
were
eligible,
who
were
still
at
work,
and
we
just
got
through
the
process
of
early
retirement
incentive
at
the
city,
and
we
had
over
60
people
in
public
works.
Take
that
and
send
them
so
we're
kind
of
turbocharged
that
turnover
from
retirees.
So
we
are
in
the
process
right
now.
D
Over
the
past
three
weeks
have
have
met
and
welcomed
must
be
about
30
employees,
brand
new
employees
on
their
first
day
to
the
department.
D
D
So
we're
doing
this
work
today
and
we
think
that
the
hiawatha
campus
expansion
and
the
training
facility
in
particular
really
offer
any
tremendous
benefit
to
those
efforts.
And
you
know
when
we
talk
about
what
we're
doing.
We
have
pathway
programs,
that's
like
our
service
worker
one
and
our
water
distribution
operator
trainees,
where
we're
bringing
people
in
who
might
not
meet
our
normal
minimum
standards
for
experience,
but
we
we
support
them
in
that
process
and
and
they
graduate
into
regular
positions.
D
We
have
apprenticeship
programs,
we
do
a
lot
of
outreach
and
we
really,
you
know,
have
a
vision
where
this
facility
would
support
all
that
work.
We've
had
a
lot
of
good
partnerships
and
champions.
Really,
I
would
say
you
know
the
unions.
We
work
very
closely
with
like
local
363
and
the
laborers
and
local
49,
the
equipment
operators
and
the
building
trades
have
all
they.
They
recognize
the
same
challenges
we
do
and
are
very
excited
and
we've
also
been.
D
You
know,
working
with
community
planning,
economic
development,
the
park
board
and
others,
as
we
not
only
support
our
operations
but
provide
opportunities
to
people
who
live
in
minneapolis
and
really
I
just
coincidentally,
the
brooklyn
brookings
metropolitan
policy
program,
which
is
a
pretty
well
respected
policy
group,
released
their
their
vision
for
21st
century
infrastructure.
Last
week
it's
called
rebuild
with
purpose,
there's
a
whole
chapter
on
on
employment,
and
we
it
just
validated.
D
I
think
our
approach
identified
challenges
such
as
kind
of
just
a
lack
of
awareness
about
the
work
in
this
area
in
in
infrastructure,
skill
development,
lack
of
diversity,
and
you
know
their
opportunities,
visibility
and
that's
that's
a
really,
I
think,
key
component
to
our
the
training
and
outreach
facility,
flexible
skill
development,
that's
something
we're
doing
and
certainly
could
and
and
that
kind
of
means
allowing
people
to
come
in
and
and
learn
kind
of
as
they're
working
and,
and
they
also
talk
about
accessible
skill
development
and
that's
something
where
you
know.
D
We
have
these
great
partnerships
and
we
use
training
facilities
like
local
49,
but
also
having
our
some
of
our
own
facilities
to
really
give
people
access
to
these
skill
opportunities
is
beneficial
and
my
final
slide
is
just
an
important
point
because
there's
some
a
little
bit
of
unique
aspect
to
the
project,
because
it
has
been
focused
on
a
water
distribution
group,
and
that,
of
course,
is
a
an
enterprise
fund.
D
All
water
treatment
and
distribution
work
is
funded
through
rates
that
users
and
consumers
of
minneapolis
water
pay,
and
so
we
purchased
the
land
in
the
building.
There
was
some
asbestos
abatement
in
the
building
in
2020
and
then,
since
the
2018
master
plan
vote,
there's
been
the
work
on
the
planning,
design,
documentation
and
environmental
work.
That
goes
with
getting
a
project
to
where
it
is
today
and
with
that
I'll,
introduce
bob
freda,
who
is
the
project
lead
and
is
the
director
of
facilities,
design
and
construction
with
finance
and
property
services.
L
Thanks
director,
jelly
I'll
go
ahead
and
proceed
and
then
we'll
both
be
available
to
answer
questions
when
I'm
done.
L
Chairman
reich
and
members
of
the
committee,
starting
with
this
slide
is
ideal
for
me,
because
I
think
this
is
a
very
exciting
opportunity
for
the
city
and
public
works.
The
rendering
on
the
right
is
the
proposed
design
for
the
recruitment
and
training
center,
and
it
includes
community
space
on
the
second
floor,
dedicated
community
space,
as
well
as
a
shared
classroom
space.
It
includes
opportunities
on
the
first
floor
for
some
community
business.
L
Perhaps
a
small
cafe
and
opportunities
on
the
third
floor
for
business
generating
space,
and
the
really
important
thing
about
this.
Recruiting
and
training
center
is
that
it
is
in
the
neighborhood
as
local
as
director
jelly
mentioned.
Public
works
works
with
local
labor
organizations,
but
their
training
facilities
are
in
hinckley
and
lino
lakes
and
they're
just
not
easy
to
get
to,
especially
for
people
who
have
trouble
with
transportation,
independent
public
transportation.
L
L
So
we're
looking
at
an
aerial
view
of
the
the
current
plan
of
the
site
and
we're
looking
from
the
northeast,
so
the
street
on
the
right
is
26th
street
the
street
on
the
left
is
28th
street
and
the
current
highway
hiawatha
maintenance
facility
site
is
the
half
that
is
on
the
right.
The
current
roof
depot
warehouse
site
is
the
half
that
is
on
the
left
and
so
starting
with
buildings.
A
in
this
rendering
there
are
the
two
existing
office
and
locker
buildings
and
a
small
addition.
Next
to
them.
That
will
support
the
additional
surface.
L
Building
c
is
the
existing
central
stores.
Building
and
building
d
is
a
new
water
vehicle
storage
building
for
a
number
of
primarily
water
division
vehicles
that
need
to
be
stored
inside
because
of
sensitive
equipment
that
they
carry
related
to
their
job.
Building
f
is
the
new
water
office
and
shops.
Building
building
h
at
the
top
of
the
screen
is
the
recruitment
training
center
and
building
e
is
a
new
central
stores
building.
L
So
what
this
is
demonstrating
is
the
opportunity
for
connection
of,
through
the
site,
from
26th
to
28th
and
relocation
of
the
central
stores
and
fuel
operations
out
of
the
middle
of
the
site,
where
they
have
made
a
a
congested
area
into
air
into
locations
that
will
be
easier
to
access
and
promote
safety
on
the
site
next
slide,
please,
the
new
project
allows
us
to
improve
stormwater
quality
on
the
site,
as
you
have
no
doubt
heard,
there
are
concerns
about
environmental
aspects
of
the
roof
deposit
site
and
so
we're
taking
great
care
with
our
architects
and
engineers
to
design
and
work
with
the
with
the
city
on
effectively
capturing
and
treating
storm
water
on
the
site.
L
We
have
a
50
50-foot,
wide
landscape
buffer
along
the
longfellow
avenue
side,
which
is
the
residential
side
west
of
the
existing
roof
depot
warehouse
building.
That's
the
same
set
book
as
the
setback.
L
Excuse
me,
as
the
house
is
on
the
other
side
of
the
street
and
will
allow
us
to
work
with
the
neighborhood
to
design
that
landscape
buffer
to
incorporate
a
variety
of
solutions
which
may
include
playgrounds,
picnic
areas,
gardening
areas,
and
we
do
hope
to
be
able
to
work
with
the
community
on
the
design
of
of
that
as
an
amenity
for
the
residential
area
and
a
buffer
for
our
operations.
L
I
start,
as
director
jelly
mentioned,
we're
pursuing
lead
gold
certification
with
this
larger
project
and
are
looking
at
buildings
that
will
be
solar,
ready
and
our
manager
of
energy
has
plans
for
over
a
hundred
thousand
square
feet
of
photovoltaic
panels
on
the
roofs
of
these
new
buildings
as
a
community
solar
resource,
we'll
also
be
looking
at
continuing
to
reuse
existing
materials
such
as
the
lowry
bridge
decking,
that
was
used
on
the
initial
project
as
a
fence
and
other
materials
that
we
can
reuse
next.
L
L
The
picture
on
the
lower
left
is
the
view
along
the
greenway
and
28th
looking
west
next
slide.
Please,
this
rendering
shows
the
two
existing
buildings
on
26th
in
the
center
and
on
the
right
and
a
new
edition
proposed
just
to
the
east
of
them
in
the
corner
of
26th
and
hiawatha
next
slide.
D
Thank
you,
mr
phil,
and
chair
reich.
We
are
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
B
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
know
you
were
friends
with
us
at
the
beginning
and
that
it's
that
there
is
currently
an
environmental
assessment
worksheet
being
undertaken.
I
just
wondered
director
jelly.
If
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
that,
I
know
that's
being
led
by
the
community
planning
and
economic
development
department,
so
it
would
just
asking
for
a
pretty
high
level
summary
of
kind
of
where
that's
at
and
yeah.
D
Chair
right,
council,
president
bender,
I
I
will
give
a
high
level
over
to
you.
So,
yes,
the
there
was
a
public
comment
period
that
closed
a
few
weeks
ago.
My
understanding
was
over
a
thousand
comments,
so
the
community
planning
and
economic
development
staff
has
been
working
with
the
project
team.
B
B
I
guess
maybe
it's
just
helpful
because
I
know
there
are
some
council
members
that
are
working
on
some
potential
actions
related
to
this
site.
You
walked
us
through
the
history.
B
I
think
I
might
have
been
in
fifth
grade
when
the
project
started
or
sixth,
I
was
doing
the
math
so
obviously
a
very
long
time
here
that
the
city
has
been
working
to
create
a
facility
for
the
for
the
workers,
our
city
employees,
who
are
doing
this
critical
work
of
ensuring
that
when
we
turn
on
the
top
clean
water
comes
out
that
our
water
system
is
not
causing
environmental
damage,
the
sewer
system
is
working,
and
you
know
I
think
sometimes
this
work
is
kind
of
behind
the
scenes.
B
Underground
literally,
therefore
may
be
sort
of
taken
for
granted
as
something
that
has
been
working
well
in
our
city,
but
of
course,
tragically
in
some
cities.
We
know
that
that
isn't
always
the
case
that
we
really
do
need
to
take
seriously
our
responsibility
to
provide
clean
and
healthy
water
and
to
keep
our
environment
clean
in
every
way.
You
know,
I
know
that
there
is
some
interest
in
talking
about
the
future
of
this
project.
B
As
you
mentioned,
this
city
council
and
this
mayor
did
unanimously
adopt
the
plan
for
this
project
in
2018.
I
know
there's
some
discussion
about
options
for
moving
forward.
I
think
you
know
one
option
is
to
move
forward
with
a
project
as
you've
described
that
followed
that
direction
from
2018.
B
That
latter
option,
I
know,
has
a
lot
of
considerations,
financial
considerations,
this
project
planning
and
the
land
acquisition
has
been
funded
through
water
fees
that
everyone
pays
for
our
system,
so
that
water
fund
would
need
to
be
repaid.
B
You
know,
certainly
if
we
were
to
start
over
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
the
staff
in
a
building,
that's
working
for
them.
That
is
updated
and
repaired,
as
you
said,
that
would
have
a
financial
consideration
and
cost.
B
Certainly
if
there
were
things
if
there
was
a
desire
to
propose
using
the
site
where
which
you
just
presented
to
us
for
a
different
use,
that
would
be
its
whole
whole
own
separate
process
that
would
require
staff,
time
and
resources.
B
So
these
are
some
of
the
things
that
I've
passed
along
to
our
colleagues
who
have
expressed
interest
in
revisiting
the
decision
from
2018,
and
I
just
think
as
we're
looking
at
all
of
this,
it's
just
under
it's
important
to
be
just
clear
and
understanding
those
different
trade-offs
about
the
decisions.
So
I
just
wanted
to
offer
that
I
don't
know
if
any
of
the
council
members
who
are
on
the
committee
url
so
part
of
those
discussions
want
to
wait
in
now
and
then,
as
you
mentioned,
this
environmental
assessment
worksheet
is
coming
forward.
B
B
In
many
ways
I
think
is
separate
from
this
that
analysis.
That's
been
underway
related
to
the
environmental
impacts
and
any
mitigation
that
might
happen,
certainly
we're
hearing
about
environmental
concerns
from
community
from
constituents
and
also
they
are
probably
separate
decisions
because
of
the
way
that
the
environmental
assessment
worksheet
is
laid
out
under
state
law.
So
I
hope
that's
helpful.
B
I
just
wanted
to
you
know
again
have
some
comment
on
the
record,
as
this
has
been
the
subject
of
a
lot
of
public
communications
lately
and
against
certainly
know
that
any
of
our
colleagues
can
weigh
in
as
well.
K
Thank
you,
council
president
you've.
I
think
added
some
very
important,
broader
context
to
the
project
as
presented
and
certainly
speaks
to
some
of
the
other
decision
points,
and
you
know
the
eaw
is
a
whole
separate
component
which
will
be
in
another
committee.
So
thank
you
for
making
those
connections
and
providing
that
that
overall,
comprehensive
context
and-
and
I
just
would
underscore
that
you're
correct
these
decisions.
K
Not
only
do
we
have
a
long
history,
but
they
have
large
implications
and
and
and
some
of
them
are
things
that
are
parameters
and
stipulations
that
are
statutory
and
not
necessarily
subject
to
the
flexible
discretion
that
other
smaller
conversations
might
might
generate
anyways.
Anyone
on
the
committee
wish
to
make
comment:
councilmember,
palmisano.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
I
want
to
point
out
that
we
have,
as
a
council
gosh,
probably
most
of
my
last
seven
years
here.
We've
gone
through
concerns
and
there
have
been
waves
of
concerns,
but
something
that
I
hear
recently
in
terms
of
public
attitudes
for
this
project
involve
two
things.
M
They
really
focus
on
the
environmental
concerns
around
demolition
of
the
existing
site
and
also
the
amount
of
truck
traffic
that
is
said
to
be
heavy
diesel,
polluting
kinds
of
trucks,
and
these
are
both
the
same
as
things
as
questions
that
have
been
asked
in
the
past,
and
yet
they
feel
unresolved
and
I'm
curious
if
public
works
could
be
willing
to
comment.
M
Something
that
I
had
always
heard
of
was
how
how
green
this
facility
would
be
in
comparison
to
any
other
industrial
type
use
in
terms
of
the
types
of
trucks.
So
I'm
just
inviting
comment
from
our
public
works
team
or
our
planning
team
about
this
to
help
clarify
the
the
conversation
that's
taking
shape
out
in
the
public
square
about
this.
D
Chair
right,
council,
member
palmisano,
I
there
will
be
responses.
You
know
so
part
of
the
the
environmental
assessment.
Worksheet
process
is
responding
specifically
to
comments,
and
I
know
that
that
was
brought
up
within
the
eaw
and
will
be
responded
to
within
that
eaw
process.
K
To
council
remember
pamasano's
point,
but
there
are
some
things
that
are
internal
to
how
we
operate.
That
might
be
instructed
to
the
question.
Specifically,
we
do
have
a
fleet
policy
that
that
has
an
environmental
imperative
built
into
it.
Do
you
think
that
speaks
to
issues
and
concerns
of
the
day.
D
K
Understood,
council,
member
johnson,
if
palmisano
is
complete.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
this.
I
know.
Council
president
bender
mentioned
that
some
of
us
are
looking
at
a
staff
direction
around
this,
and
I
just
wanted
to
speak
for
a
moment
to
provide
some
different
thoughts
on
this
and
hopefully
some
reassurances
as
well
for
staff.
E
E
The
building
in
the
rendering
looks
beautiful.
I
appreciate
the
work
the
staff
are
doing
and
it
is
valued
work,
as
some
of
my
colleagues
mentioned
around
the
environmental
concerns
you
know
to
me.
That
is
not
the
issue
here
to
me,
the
issue
is
that
we
have
a
community
that
is
always
told
what
will
happen
to
them,
not
with
them.
This
is
an
incredible
transit
oriented
development
site
right
along
the
greenway.
It
is
only
a
few
minutes
walk
away
from
the
light
rail
station
at
lake
street.
E
We
should
be
working
with
the
community
to
help
develop
their
vision
rather
than
forcing
ours
onto
them.
In
this
case,
it
is
forcing
you
have
a
council
member
that
opposes
opposes
this
project
in
their
ward.
You
have
a
state
rep
that
opposes
it,
a
state
senator
that
opposes
it,
a
neighborhood
association
that
opposes
it,
a
coalition
of
community
organizations
that
oppose
it
in
many
residents
that
oppose
it.
E
That's
not
staff's
fault.
This
is
what
the
council
asked
them
to
do
is
to
look
into
this
particular
site,
but
times
have
changed,
and
I
know
some
of
my
colleagues
feel
differently
about
this
project
and
want
to
revisit
it.
Yes,
there's
a
cost
of
changing
our
mind,
but
there's
also
a
cost
to
institutional
racism,
and
yes,
it's
institutional
racism.
E
When
we
continually
tell
one
of
the
most
racially
diverse
communities,
with
a
lengthy
history
of
disinvestment
in
their
community
to
just
wait
their
turn
a
little
longer
before
we
help
them
develop
out
their
vision
for
an
incredible
location
and
incredible
site.
I
also
don't
think
that
a
lot
of
the
work
done
today
is
throwaway.
E
It
shouldn't
take
another
few
decades
to
get
staff.
The
needed
location
at
this
site,
let's
expedite
and
find
another
site
that
will
work
for
this.
I
want
to
see
that
happen
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
I
want
to
see
these
buildings
get
built.
I've
also
offered
in
the
past
to
work
with
public
works
on
sites
that
could
potentially
be
suitable
in
my
ward,
and
I
extend
that
offer
once
again
and
know
that
I
have
an
upcoming
meeting
with
our
staff
around
that.
K
Members,
council,
member
fletcher.
I
I
I
do
think
it's
important
that
we
be
very
honest
with
people
about
what
we're
talking
about,
because
there's
a
very
significant
cost
like,
let's,
let's
not,
let's
not
downplay,
you
know
what
what
we're
talking
about
doing
for
a
vision
that
is
not
clear
and
I
I
I
frankly
just
think
that
we
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
clearer
about
what
we're
talking
about
and
and
about
the
the
dollar
figures,
because
this
is
going
to
be
like
10
million
dollars
to
back
away
from
this
project
without
even
getting
to
the
place
where
we
start.
I
You
know
working
on
on.
You
know
the
next
location
and
the
delay
to
employees.
I'll
just
tell
you
right
now.
These
employees
are
in
ward
3
and
I
love
having
them
in
ward
3..
I
wish
that
I
could
have
the
water
yard
in
ward
3
forever
and
I'll
tell
you
that
I
don't
get
complaints
about
air
quality
or
noise
or
any
of
the
other
things
that
people
are
worried
about
at
this
site.
I
But
the
site
is
too
small
and
for
all
the
reasons
that
we
were
just
shown,
it's
not
the
best
way
to
honor
our
employees
to
have
them
continue
working
at
that
site
indefinitely,
and
so
I
I'm
I'm
very
concerned
about
framing
this
as
environmental
justice,
without
real
clarity
about
what
we're
actually
doing
about
how
we're
going
to
actually
have
the
capacity
to
do
any
of
that
and
with
a
real
recognition
that
you
know
providing
reasonable
working
facilities
for
our
staff
is
something
that
needs
to
be
a
priority
as
well,
that
we
have
real
responsibilities
to
the
water
fund,
that
that
paid
for
this
site
and
that
we
have
real
responsibilities
to
make
investments
in
clean
water.
I
It's
it's
important
that
we're
clear
about
what
the
costs
are
and
we
need
to
ask
ourselves
if
we're
going
to
make
the
kind
of
substantial
you
know
eight-figure
investment
in
environmental
justice
that
is
being
proposed
here,
and
it's
not
even
clear
that
it
would
have
an
environmental
justice
outcome,
because
the
alternative
is
so
unclear.
I
I
wanna
just
name
that
if
we're
going
to
make
that
investment,
we
have
to
hold
that
against
all
the
other
environmental
justice
investments
that
we
could
make
at
that
scale,
that
we
have
not
pursued
making
and
and
not
just
focus
it
on
that
site
and
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
the
place
that
we
would
prioritize
making
that
investment
if
it
comes
down
to
that
conversation.
So
let's
have
that
conversation
if
we're
really
going
to
have
it,
but
we
can't
just
say
we're
with
community
because
we
got
some
emails
about
it.
I
You
know
this
is
going
to
be
something
where
we've
actually
got
to
really
be
accountable
for
we're
talking
about
spending
10
million
bucks,
and
if,
if,
if
we're
talking
about
that
kind
of
resource,
there
are
places
that
we
definitely
need
to
make
environmental
justice
investments
and
that
we
need.
You
know
to
be
open
to
doing
that.
I
Kind
of
in
the
taking
advantage
of
this
project
in
some
way
you
know
to
make
this
point.
I
I
I'm
not
sure
that
that
that's
the
right
approach,
so
you
know
looking
forward
to
the
aw
conversation
and
and
getting
to
more
clarity
about
what
people
are
actually
wanting
about
the
clarity
of
their
proposals,
moving
forward
about
what
they
actually
want
to
see
happen
and
how
they,
how
they
propose
to
pay
for
it
and
why
they
think
this
is
the
absolute
highest
priority
for
where
we
should
be
making
environmental
justice
and
investments
in
the
city.
K
Thank
you
for
those
comments.
Councilman
fletcher.
I
was
going
to
make
some
comment,
but
I
see
councilmember
gordon
is
in
queue.
You
deplored.
G
G
Things
have
certainly
changed
dramatically
since
1991
in
our
city
and
even
since
2010
this
area
wasn't
designated
as
a
green
zone,
and
we
had
we.
Our
awareness
about
the
the
history
of
practices
and
environmental
injustice
was
not
nearly
as
clear
and
also
we
didn't
have
the
civil
unrest
and
we
didn't
have
the
destruction
of
properties
that
happened
after
the
killing
of
george
floyd,
which
were
right
near
this
area.
G
So
this
is
an
area
that
could
definitely
use
some
help.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
staff
have
done
into
this.
It's
really
difficult
to
think
that
we
might
change
direction
after
we
have
gone
so
far
down
this
road,
but
people
are
probably
aware
that
I'm
interested
in
keeping
to
evaluate
things.
We
actually
had
some
different
options
on
the
table
about
what
we
might
do
with
the
full
site
at
one
point,
and
I
preferred
some
of
those
alternatives,
and
yet
we
didn't
go
with
those
and
we
went
ahead
with
something
else.
G
I
will
note
that
I
think
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
the
comments
folks
have
made
here.
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
our
city
employees
have
an
outstanding
work
facility.
G
So
those
are
all
things
to
take
into
consideration
and
I
think
it
was
really
helpful
to
have
this
full
presentation
at
this
committee
outside
here.
So
the
the
public
and
others
can
kind
of
see
where
we
are
with
this.
This
project
would
certainly
look
like
it
was
it's
been
in
limbo
for
a
while,
but
obviously
work
has
been
done
and
people
have
been
focused
on
it.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
thought
I'd
weigh
in
thanks.
So.
K
B
Thanks,
mr
chair,
I
appreciate
the
council
members
chiming
in
who
who've
been
in
more
of
those
discussions
about
options.
You
know,
I
guess
I'll
just
sort
of
reiterate
what
others
have
said.
You
know
I'm
certainly
open-minded
to
hear
what
folks
might
be
interested
in
proposing
back
in
2018.
B
B
I
think
likely
would
would
be
in
place
of
the
training
facility,
but
you
know
I
do
think
I
guess.
I
think
the
worst
case
scenario
here
seems
to
be
that
we
end
up
with,
or
the
city
ends
up
with
no
water
yard
and
a
polluted
site
here
in
the
community.
That
is
not,
you
know,
moving
forward
with
a
positive
use-
and
this
is
you
know,
a
site
that
is
going
to
be.
I
think
very
expensive.
B
We've
been
talking
about
the
11
million
dollars
that
we
would
have
to
repay
for
the
water
yard.
The
expenses
that
have
already
been
spent,
but
that
would
be
just
the
tip
of
the
iceberg,
of
the
full
costs
of
redeveloping
a
site,
and
so
it
you
know
I,
as
we
hear
about
potential
proposals,
it
will
be
helpful
to
understand
the
full
costs
of
environmental
cleanup.
Of
of
what
folks
seem
you
know,
may
expect
from
the
city.
B
B
The
question
of
how
we,
how
we
get
there
is
important,
and
I
I
actually
do
think
that
the
very
unfortunate
situation
of
the
destruction
of
this
area
actually
raises
a
question
about
how
to
prioritize
city
funds,
and
I
guess
I'm
just
not
sure
how
business
owners
in
the
area
would
feel
if
they
saw
the
city
investing
on
this
city-owned
site.
Instead
of
to
help
support.
B
Folks
in
the
community
directly
who
have
had
impacts
from
the
pandemic
and
from
property
destruction,
so
those
trade-offs
aren't
always
direct.
I
don't
want
to
make
any
sort
of
false.
You
know.
I
don't
want
to
pit
things
against
each
other
in
a
false
way,
but
we
have
a
limited
amount
of
money
more
limited
than
ever.
We
have
extraordinary
need
in
the
community,
so
truly
understanding.
B
K
Thank
you
again
for
that
that
context,
and
I
think
another
one
other
way
to
maybe
express
it
is
not
only
just
the
full
ledger
of
the
direct
project
cost
and
as
you've
outlined
the
cost
associated
with
getting
anything
productive
for
any
given
area,
particularly
one
that's
been
stressed,
or
has
a
special
designation
like
a
green
zone,
there's
also
opportunity
cost.
I
do
recall
how
cpad
and
looking
at
you
know
alternatives
to
positively
invest
in
the
community,
even
in
certain
very
niche
areas,
such
as
urban
egg.
K
Where
would
be
the
best
opportunity
if
we
were
to
invest
and
how
much
would
those
investments
be
compared
to
the
cost
of
a
very
particular
proposal
at
a
very
particular
site
to
meet
those
same
goals,
and
so
I
think,
there's
project
cost
a
more
broader
range
of
calculations
that
are
cost
related
and
then
there's
opportunity
costs.
What
opportunities
are
you
not
investing
in
in
any
given
area?
And
I
just
wanted
to
comment
you
know
I'll
be
you
know
I
have
a
big
zoning
map
in
my
my
office.
K
I
don't
get
to
stare
at
as
much
of
late,
but
you
know
there
is
very
limited
if
there's
one
thing
that
has
changed
of
the
many
things
that
may
be
accounted
for
in
terms
of
change
in
the
recent
years
is
the
limited
availability
of
appropriately
sized,
let
alone
appropriately
located
sites
that
are
that
are
zoned
appropriately.
K
So,
if
there's
something
that's
just
sort
of
really
ripe
that
I'm
not
aware
of
that'd
be
really
intriguing,
but
that
would
be
news
to
me
and
then
the
other
thing
is
again
my
mental
map,
of
where
the
appropriate
zoning
and
opportunities
would
be
in
these
other
places,
99
they
will
be
in
another
green
zone
or
right
just
outside
of
the
green
zone,
thus
impacting
the
green
zone,
to
the
extent
that
we
all
agree
that
there
are
some
extraordinary
impacts,
and
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
the
impact
because
that's
the
eaw
part,
but
when
you
swap
out
assuming
we
have
the
magic,
10
plus
million
dollar
wand,
to
do
that
effectively
and
time
effectively.
K
That's
what
we're
really
looking
at
down
the
road
and
so
having
a
stretch
of
a
green
zone.
In
my
area,
but
looking
over
to
my
west
there's
two,
a
large
swath
of
green
zones
on
the
other
side
of
the
river
in
north
minneapolis,
where
there's
a
preponderance
of
these
opportunity
properties,
and
maybe
that's
a
good
thing,
but
we
are
having
this
meeting.
While
you
know
the
northern
metal
site
is
a
flame
in
polluting
our
river
neighborhoods
as
we
speak,
and
so
environmental
impacts
and
green
zones
are
not
particular
to
one
set
of
blocks.
K
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
sounds
a
little
provincial,
but
when
we
talk
about
relocating
it's
not
just
the
cost
and
efficacy
challenges
to
that.
But
we
really
are
talking
about
swapping
one
set
of
values
for
one
area
against
another
and
and
what
and
what
and
what
does
that
do
for
our
calculation
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there
having
a
green
zone
to
stick
up
for
in
a
our
cap
community
to
stick
up
for
as
well.