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A
All
right,
we've
got
transcription,
has
started,
recording
and
transcription
has
started
okay.
Here
we
go
hello.
Everyone
this
meeting
first
off
this
meeting,
may
involve
the
remote
participation
by
members,
either
by
telephone
or
other
electronic
means
due
to
the
local
public
health,
emergency,
novel
coronavirus
pandemic
and
that's
pursuant
to
the
provisions
of
minnesota
statute,
sections
13d.021,
hello,
hello,
again,
everyone.
This
is
the
minneapolis
pedestrian
advisory
committee
subcommittee
for
program
and
policies
for
february,
and
it's
good
to
see
everyone.
A
We've
got
a
four-item
agenda
today
and
we
have
welcoming
amy
barnster
from
minneapolis
public
works.
Who
is
here
so
we'll
we
can
start
off
with
amy
and
we'll,
as
is
returning
with
the
ada
transition
plan
for
public
works,
was
here
in
november
or
october,
and
we
we
sent
a
resolution
after
that
and
resolutions.
Last
memo.
A
E
A
D
Perfect
so,
as
peter
mentioned,
I
was
here,
I
believe
back
in
november,
just
to
provide
kind
of
an
update
just
mentioning
that
we
are
doing
a
biennial
update
to
the
ada
transition
plan.
Since
we
last
spoke,
there's
been
some
more
work
done
on
this,
so
just
want
to
provide
kind
of
a
final
update
on
this
work
before
we
bring
it
through
counsel
this
later
this
week.
Actually,
so
some
of
this
might
be
a
bit
of
a
repeat
but
hoping
to
kind
of
answer.
Some
of
the
previous
questions
that
you
all
had.
D
So
the
ada
transition
plan
was
adopted
by
city
council
in
february
of
2020.,
within
that
there
are
20
recommendations
to
help
improve
access
in
the
public
right-of-way.
Within
those
20
recommendations,
there
are
36
total
milestones
in
order
to
help
us
reach
those
recommendations,
and
each
of
those
milestones
has
a
timeline
associated
with
it.
D
As
part
of
the
transportation
action
plan,
public
works
has
committed
to
conducting
a
review
of
the
aea
transition
plan
on
a
biennial
basis.
That
is
what
we're
working
on
right
now
and
really.
The
point
of
it
is
to
evaluate
our
progress
and
suggest
any
planned
updates
continuing
to
pursue
improved
compliance
across
the
city.
D
D
We
are
also
looking
to
update
the
language
within
the
ada
plan
to
be
reflective
of
our
most
recent
policy
documents
so,
for
example,
the
tap
and
the
street
design
guide.
Those
were
adopted
after
the
ada
transition
plan,
so
just
updating
the
language
within
this
to
be
consistent
throughout
all
of
our
policy
documents,
and
the
last
point
here
is
really
to
report
this
update
out
to
the
public
and
to
city
council,
taking
a
look
at
our
current
status
in
terms
of
progress,
you
can
see
here,
we've
completed
20
of
the
36
milestones
to
date.
D
One
thing
I
want
to
note
is
that
this
second
column
here
ongoing
and
successfully
completed
to
date.
This
is
a
new
category
that
we
included
just
to
kind
of
better
articulate
what
what's
going
on
within
these
different
recommendations
and
milestones
so
that
column
right.
There
is
really
representative
of
items
that
are
like
essentially
perpetually
ongoing.
They
don't
have
end
dates.
They're
annual
things
that
we
do
and
so
taking
a
snapshot
in
time,
look
at
our
progress
right
now.
We
have
done
those
for
the
last
two
years
and
we
do
anticipate
doing
those
moving
forward.
D
So
we've
completed
20
of
the
36
milestones
thus
far.
We
have
three
currently
in
progress.
Four
identified
as
up
next
and
nine
have
not
yet
been
started,
so
you
can
see
we
have
made
significant
progress,
but
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
that
is
ongoing
and
to
come
with
this
plan,
something
else
I
want
to
note
just
with
these
last
two
items
here:
the
up
next
and
not
started.
D
E
D
D
We
have
now
wrapped
up
the
pilot
project
and
our
staff
is
in
the
process
of
really
evaluating
the
six
different
data
collection
methods
that
they
used
or
tested
out
to
understand
how?
How
do
we
scale
this?
What
are
basically,
the
scalability,
the
cost
effectiveness
and
the
efficiency
of
doing
each
of
these
different
methods
and
applying
that
to?
How
can
we
do
this
on
a
city-wide
base
basis,
and
so
this
work
really
is
is
one
of
those
items
that
impacts
a
lot
of
other
recommendations
within
the
plan,
and
you
can
see
those
here
at
the
bottom.
D
D
D
D
We
have
an
estimated
timeline
of
18
to
28
years
to
reach
full
compliance
between
those
infrastructure
types
with
a
cost
estimate
of
430
million
dollars
to
reach
it,
and
so
these
estimates
are
really
based
on
our
current
funding
levels
and
our
current
material
costs
that
exist
today,
taking
a
step
at
the
very
bottom
here
looking
at
sidewalks.
So
we
do
have
a
program
that
looks
to
fill
our
sidewalk
gaps
across
the
city.
So
in
2019
and
2020
we
filled
1.72
miles
of
sidewalk
gaps
across
the
city.
D
You
can
see
in
this
center
graph
here
about
870
miles
of
our
streets
include
sidewalks
on
both
sides.
155
miles
with
sidewalks
on
one
side
and
208
miles
are
either
missing
sidewalks
or
we
just
don't
it's
missing
data.
We
don't
have
that
data
yet,
and
so
we
are
working
as
part
of
that
sidewalk
inventory
pilot
project
that
I
spoke
about
a
minute
ago.
Once
we
are
able
to
do
that
on
a
citywide
scale,
get
that
citywide
inventory.
D
D
So,
in
terms
of
the
items
that
are
up
next,
looking
at
2022
recommendation,
3.4
again,
that
goes
back
to
that
citywide
sidewalk
and
street
crossing
inventory,
our
staff,
since
the
pilot
project
has
wrapped
up.
We
are
working
to
evaluate
how
we
can
do
this
on
a
citywide
basis.
Once
we
figure
out
the
best
the
how
we
scale
it,
the
cost
effectiveness,
really
that
will
start
feeding
into
bigger
budget
conversations
about
doing
it
across
the
city
recommendation
3.3.
D
We
do
have
fully
digitized
aps
data
across
the
city
or
traffic
signal
data
across
the
city.
We
are
in
the
process
of
getting
2021
data
into
that
system.
We're
about
halfway
there,
if
not
a
little
bit
more
and
something
that
we're
doing
with
this
process
is
that
we
are
working
to
identify
data
collection,
improvements
to
make
sure
that
we
really
are
collecting
and
documenting
all
of
the
different
ada
requirements
specifically
for
aps
systems,
and
the
last
point
here
is
recommendation.
D
So,
in
terms
of
the
timeline
we
began
this
work
back
in
august,
we
have
been
working
over
the
last
several
months
to
develop
this
update.
We
provided
an
update
to
the
advisory
committees
who
are
part
of
the
development
of
the
2020
plan
back
in
november,
and
really
this
month.
We
are
providing
kind
of
this
final
update
to
the
advisory
committees
and
are
anticipating
bringing
this
to
pwi
or
the
public
works
and
infrastructure
committee
on
march
3rd
later
this
week,.
A
A
F
F
Okay,
I
have
two
specific
kind
of
questions,
I'm
wondering
when
the.
If
you
know
the
timeline
for
installing
aps
at
the
downtown
light
rail
intersections.
I
know
that's
been
a
concern
to
people
with
visual
impairments,
since
since
trains
can't
stop
quickly
and
then.
Secondly,
I'm
wondering
about
the
sidewalk
inventory.
D
Yep
absolutely
your
second
question
about
the
sidewalk
inventory,
so
I
will
say
the
the
team
looked
at
six
different
data
function,
methods
and
each
method
was
a
bit
different.
There
were
several,
however,
that
used
a
tool
varying
tools,
but
essentially
looking
at
it.
It
does
look
at
the
width
of
like
how
much
space
people
have
to
pass
through.
Some
of
the
equipment
was
actually
about
the
side
of
what
a
wheelchair
is
so
understanding.
D
It
will
look
at
both
like
vertical
deficiencies
as
well
as
with
as
well
as
kind
of
the
other
elements
like.
Are
there
cracks
or
other
deficiencies
within
the
sidewalk
or
missing
sidewalk?
Perhaps
so
all
that
will
be
looked
at
as
part
of
the
the
process.
It's
we're
still
evaluating,
which
method
will
be
used,
but
each
of
the
methods
did
look
at
that.
D
A
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up,
but
I'm
just
following
on
with
what
julia
was
asking
about,
where
pat
could
help?
Certainly
the
where
the
gap
where
the
where
there
are
measurements
and
specific
tools
involved,
is
one
thing
but
we're
to
the
extent
our
sidewalk
gap
map
is
missing.
It
does
not
show
sidewalk
gaps.
Is
there
you
know?
How
can
we
you
know?
How
would
we
report
those?
I
think
you
know
what
did
the
pac
people
are
out
there
walking?
A
D
D
They
tested
out
in
2021,
they
finished
testing
all
of
the
different
methods.
So
now
it's
just
a
matter
of
evaluating
it
and
working
through
kind
of
how
do
we
scale
it?
So
I
don't
have
an
exact
timeline
for
that.
I
anticipate
that
those
discussions
will
happen
throughout
this
year
with
bigger
budget
discussions
to
come.
D
C
A
F
Thank
you.
I
I
have
kind
of
a
bigger
picture,
question
hearing
what
you
were
going
through.
It
seems
like
some
of
it
it's
hard
for
me
to
see
exactly
how
this
relates
into
what
the
people
that
I
know
with
disabilities
and
limited
mobility
face
in
terms
of
barriers
and
some
of
the
the
seasonal
barriers,
but
just
ongoing
barriers
to
basic
accessibility,
and
I'm
wondering
it
seems
like
this
is
driven
by
the
ada.
D
D
A
G
Hello,
thank
you.
Julia's
question
made
me
think
of
another
follow-up
question
to
that.
I'm
curious.
If
you
have
an
answer
or
any
insight
of.
If
then,
are
there
any
plans
in
the
future,
to
you
know
kind
of
circle
back
with
the
community
do
some
additional
community
engagement
to
like
to
see
what
their
feedback
is
on
these
plant
updates.
I'm
curious
to
know,
if
that's
that's
part
of
the
plan
as
well.
D
Yeah
during
this
particular
update,
no,
but
that's
not
to
say
in
the
future,
updates
that
that
wouldn't
be
part
of
it.
So
I
think,
since
we're
only
about
two
years
out
and
we're
still
that
that
engagement
is
still
fairly
fresh,
we're
not
doing
it
at
this
time.
But
I
think
it
is
something
that
we
can
think
about
for
future
updates,
because
we
will.
We
will
be
updating
this
plan
every
two
years
and
things
change,
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
adapt
to
that.
F
Thank
you
I'm
following
up
with
that,
I'm
just
kind
of
curious.
I
think
the
piece
that
keeps
sticking
for
me
is
knowing
how
many
people
I
talk
to
who
use
the
street
rather
than
the
sidewalks,
because
the
sidewalks
are
just
not
accessible
for
a
decent
portion
of
the
year,
even
with
the
curb
ramp
clearance
not
done
to
the
standards
that
you
might
need.
F
Winter,
but
not
not
only
winter,
sometimes
it's
been
fine,
like
sign
storage
can
be
a
barrier.
People
keep
their
trash
bins
and
recycling
bins
blocking
the
sidewalk
at
times
it
just
if
you're
somebody
who's
using
a
wheelchair
or
a
walker
and
you're
going
through
minneapolis.
You
can't
necessarily
count
on
being
able
to
get
along
on
a
sidewalk
in
winter.
It's
like
don't
even
try,
but
even
in
summer
there's
there's
barriers.
F
You
may
not
anticipate
so
I
in
my
observation
of
usage,
people
with
disabilities
are
disproportionately
using
the
street
in
winter,
especially-
and
I
I
know
that
this
is
about
the
ada,
but
is
that
information
being
picked
up?
And
if
so,
how
is
it
being
understood
in
terms
of
what
the
city
is
deciding
to
do?.
D
Yeah
and
so
our
our
best
process
for
that
is
3-1-1,
that's
how
everything
gets
put
into
one
place
and
organized
and
disseminated
where
it
needs
to
go.
I
will
say
that
the
sidewalk
and
street
crossing
inventory
project
will
also
help
identify
some
of
those
barriers
and
be
able
to
prioritize
those
across
the
city
for
improvement
as
well.
F
I
some
of
them
seem
chronic
and
seem
to
be
so
fundamental
to
the
structure
of
the
sidewalks
and
how
we
like.
We
have
our
drainage
co-located,
with
our
curb
ramps,
which
creates
particularly
icy
or
slippery,
not
level
conditions
depending
on
what
the
storm
and
melt
situation
is.
So
some
of
it
seems
like
stuff
that
would
take
a
long
time
potentially
to
address.
F
C
E
E
Year
old
guy,
who
doesn't
refuses
to
walk
on
the
sidewalk
all
winter,
because
I'm
damned,
if
I'm
going
to
break
my
hip,
to
prove
that
I'm
a
law
abiding
citizen,
I
can
guarantee
it
and
I'm
not
angry,
I'm
just
saying,
but
it's
hilarious,
how
bad
the
clearing
still
is.
You
know
trouble
is
climate
change
enters
into
this
nonsense.
E
E
To
think
all
year,
how
the
heck
the
city
is
supposed
to
deal
with
that
for
less
than
10
million
a
day,
because
it
would
take
an
unbelievable
amount
of
money
to
actually
plow
the
streets,
so
they're
adequate
for
an
unable-bodied
person
to
get
from
one
block
to
the
next
I
mean
the
side.
Streets
are
absolute
garbage
but
of
course,
they're
up
to
the
standards
which
proves
the
standards
are
inadequate
anymore.
Not
your
problem,
but
it's
a
sort
of.
E
F
I
F
H
F
E
E
A
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
promise
showing
that
where
the
winner
maintenance
is
is
integrated
into
the
ada,
you
know
presentation
today
and
it's
certainly
with
a
separate,
a
separate
track.
We
talked
about
earlier
that
you've
got
a
winter
maintenance
surveys
going
on.
This
is
gives
me
some
some
hope,
I'm
not
promised
and
amy.
We
really
appreciate
you
being
here.
If
anybody
has
any
last
words,
let's
share
them.
Otherwise
we
will.
We
will
let
amy
go
with
our
with
our
thanks
for
being
here
and
coming
back
so
soon.
A
Connected
with
connected
with
elected
officials,
peter
vader
pack
member,
we
built
a
sign
up
sheet
in
google
docs
google
sheets
last
week.
Last
month
I
mean
we
shared
a
link
out,
I'm
looking
to
see
if
it's
worth
it
for
everybody,
I
assume
it
is.
I've
tried
it
with
different
ways.
Myself.
I've
had
one
entry,
that
is
my
own
emily
koski,
a
council
member
of
award
11.
A
My
word
has
as
a
as
agreed
and
being
invited
invited
me
to
be
a
way
to
hear
from
here
from
theirs
from
amy's
emily's
staff
on
that
has
anybody
else
had
any
luck
with
it,
either
with
the
elected
official
business
or
on
the
sign
up
sheet.
I
just
want
to
check
in
on
that
and,
if
and
hear
from
anybody
on
that.
B
A
E
B
A
B
A
And
my
feeling
is
that
not
everybody
is
going
to
want
to
do
it,
so
if
so
so
the
workouts
and
as
we're
as
you're
reminded
we're
not
you
know,
we
live
in
our.
We
live
in
our
wards,
but
we're
not
as
pac
members
we're
not
affixed
to
our
wards,
unlike
the
bac.
So
your
advice
would
be
your
please.
Your
freedom
would
really
see,
see
anybody.
You
anybody
you
like
anybody,
you
think
you
might
have
rapport
with
or
or
not,
and
the
last
go-round
we
went.
A
I
saw
my
council
member
and
then
ward
13s
as
well
and
all
right
it
is
I
we
also
have
a
probably
I
think
I
I
don't
know
what
to
agree.
A
bike
pad
coordinator
is
needed
to
as
part
of
this
process,
but
we
have
a
annual
report.
I
think
coming
up
would
be,
would
normally
be
coming
up
in
march
or
april
right
to
the
to
the
to
the
city
council
or
to
our
our
transportation
subcommittee.
Whoever
that
is
now
abigail
is
that
was
that
is
that
april
march
april.
J
H
No,
I
have
nothing
to
add
chris.
I
know
that
we'd
reach
out
and
talk
yeah
last
this
last
year.
It
was
the
end
of
march,
but
it's
really
anytime
in
the
first
quarter.
So
I
think
our
goal
is
to
do
it
later
as
late
as
possible
this
year,
so
that
everybody
can
kind
of
fall
into
their
position
and
then
with
matthew
leaving.
We
should
probably
have
some
more
logistics
to
work
out.
G
I
have
a
question
about.
I
guess
this.
I
think
this
is
a
fabulous
idea,
I'm
happy
to
talk
to
elected
officials.
My
question
is
like:
do
we
have
any
specific
like
talking
points
or
discussion
points
you
want
us
to
bring
up
or
like
what
exactly
am
I
like
supposed
to
be
asking?
Are
my
elected
officials
about.
C
A
Our
program,
our
our
you,
know
our
more
of
our
mission,
etc,
and
certainly
you
know
it
gives
us
a
chance
to
remind
people
what
we're,
what
what
we're
doing-
and
you
know
thank
them
and
thank
them
presumptively
for
for
the
support.
What
I'd
like?
Just
my
my?
What
I
imagine
is
that
we'd
have
people
sign
up
and
then
we
that
we
we
talk
about.
We
talk
about
that
ahead
of
we
talk
about
that
ahead
of
time.
A
G
A
G
Like
I'll
talk
to
elliot-
but
I
like-
I
don't
know
what
I'll
say,
except
I'm
part
of
the
pack
and
like
truthfully
too,
I
spend
this
might
be.
Another
question
too,
for
the
group
to
consider,
like
I
spend
quite
a
lot
of
time
in
ward
2
as
well,
because
I'm
by
the
university
all
the
time
so
like
would
it
make
sense
to
connect
to
board
2
as
well?
Would
they
be
willing
to
talk
to
me?
I
don't
know,
but
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
good
ideas
here.
So
it's
good
to
get
some
direction.
A
Right
and
part
of
that
yeah
I
appreciate
that
austin
the
and
I
don't
want
to
talk
over
anybody,
but
that
was
that
that
was
the
the
well.
We
took
these
meetings
last
time
with
with
bac
members
who
are
water
fixed
and
where,
and
in
both
cases
I
was
we
were
coming
with
our
you
know,
with
our
our
general
pac
zeitgeist
and
then
my
my
back
partner,
bac
partner
was
there
to
talk
about
here's.
A
We
had
sort
of
like
a
little
bit
of
cross
purposes
on
that
when
we're
trying
to
what
what
I
think
as
pac
members
we're
trying
to
get
an
idea
we're
trying
to
get
across
the
our
mission
and
goals
as
more
from
a
policy
and
mission
standpoint
than
for
a
particular
project.
You
know
here
to
watch
out
for
so
in
the
in
the
last
month.
A
I
did
reach
out
to
our
the
the
bac
chair,
who
responded
recently
and
is
inquiring
of
their
of
of
the
baca
membership
is
to
their
as
to
their
interest.
So
we'll
take
that
up.
We'll
take
that
up
too
but
yeah.
Definitely,
you
know
sign
up
for
anybody.
You
want
anybody.
You
think
you're
gonna
report
I
mean
cm.
Payne
is
a
great
idea,
because
they're
they're
new
and
you
know,
and
probably
has
a
lot
of
things
thrown
in
my
council
member-
is
new
for
so
that
same.
A
H
C
J
Austin,
just
to
add
one
more
thing:
it's
a
good
question
and,
like
this
year,
is
a
little
bit
different
in
that,
like,
obviously,
we
have
a
bunch
of
new
council
members,
so
a
little
bit
of
just
like
education
about
like
what
the
pack
is
and
does
is
probably
also
a
good
talking
point
to
bring
up
like
hey,
we
put
out
resolutions,
we
send
them
to
you
guys.
We
comment
and
all
the
projects
and
that
sort
of
thing
just
to
like
let
them
know
which
maybe
they
already
know
that.
F
A
C
A
C
A
F
E
A
I'm
going
to
move
on
in
the
agenda
we're
going
to
what's
the
next
step,
we're
gonna
talk
about
member
applications,
which
is
a
annual
process
for
at
least
half
seven
or
eight
us
or
eight
of
us.
Our
seats
are
open
every
every
year,
open
for
applications,
and
so
that
process
we
talk
about
every
year
in
possible
areas
of
focus
in
terms
of
recruitment
and
messaging,
and
we've
got
chris
and
julia
and
mead
are
leading
that
christian,
we're
gonna
start
us
off.
J
Yeah,
maybe
just
a
quick
word
and
then
you
all
can
take
it
and
strategize
as
as
you
wish,
but
main
point
is
just
that.
I
think
applications
open
something
like
march
18th
I'll,
send
out
an
email
with
the
exact
details
and
how
to
do
everything,
but
that's
coming
up
I'll,
make
sure
also
to
flag
all
the
members
who
are
up
for
needing
to
reapply
so
that
we
don't
have
anyone
fall
through
the
cracks.
If
you
want
to
continue
on
the
pack,
definitely
reapply
and
do
that
and
yeah.
J
This
is
my
first
time
matthew
used
to
handle
this.
So
this
is
my
first
time
doing
this,
but
I
think
we've
got
got
all
the
details
down,
but
if
you
have
any
questions
feel
free
to
reach
out,
and
I
can
help
you
through
the
application
process.
You've
all
done
it
at
least
once
so.
I
assume
you
probably
you
might
even
know
more
than
I
do
but
yeah
I
think
that's
all.
I
got
all
right.
J
J
A
And
ably
so
by
first
application,
I
followed
up
any
number
of
ways
and
they
I
I
got
a
response
within
20
minutes.
It's
like
you
know,
with
with
suggested
correct
corrections
and
clearing
up
formatting
errors,
and
things
like
that.
So
it
was
a
really
a
real
positive
experience
just
applying
in
the
first
place.
So
nice.
A
A
E
And
disabled
and
he
kept
blind,
but
also
from
the
north
side,
and
I
don't
know
who
else
is
from
the
north
side.
I
think
nobody
and
of
course
I
don't
know
that
she
permanently
dropped
out
either,
but
she
sure
expressed
zero
interest
in
continuous
zoom
meetings.
So
I
don't
know
if
she's
going
to
reapply,
we
should
look
into
replacing
her
if
we
need
to.
E
F
I
I'm
noticing
a
sort
of
a
widening
of
who's,
engaging
around
pedestrian
issues
on
our
local
twitter,
which
I
think
might
be
promising
for,
if
not
getting
some
of
the
individuals
who
are
you
know,
talking
more
about
winter
maintenance
and
different
things
to
apply
or
what
getting
more
people
to
share
with
their
networks
as
well
like
there's
a
lot
of
unfamiliar
avatars
and
names
and
just
more
conversation
than
I've
ever
seen
before.
So
I'm
hopeful
that
that
might
indicate
something
shifting
locally,
whether
that's
just
on
twitter
or
elsewhere.
B
I
have
a
friend
who
is
got
retinitis
pigmentosa,
so
she's
losing
her
vision
and
she's
connected
to
the
foundation
fighting
blindness.
So
I'm
wondering
I
could
talk
to
her
if
she
knows
anyone
that
lives
in
the
city
who's
interested
or
who
has
pretty
intense
feelings
about
how
we
deal
with
pedestrian
access
for
people
that
are
blind
I'll
see
if
she
has
any
suggestions.
G
G
Aside
from
that,
there's
other
community
organizations
that
we
could
partner
with
you
know
like.
If
we
wanted
to,
we
could
try
and
then
you
know,
go
from
there.
It's
always
an
opportunity
as
well,
but
I'm
all
for
social
media.
It's
like
so
quick
and
easy.
We
can
get
the
word
out
pretty
quick.
That
way.
A
A
F
It
won't
necessarily
have
that
aside
from
address-
and
we've
also
talked
in
the
past,
about
being
explicit
about
offering
to
help
people
with
applications
or
to
talk
through
what
being
on
the
pack
is
like,
we've
done
articles
to
share
kind
of
what
we've
found
meaningful
or
why
this
is
something
that
we
show
up
and
do
through
streets
of
men.
I've
made
little
social
squares
in
the
past
to
create
a
visual
to
go
along
with
information
being
shared
on.
F
F
G
A
And
chris,
if
I
can
ask
if
you
have
an
answer
or
any
opinion
of
what
what
would
be
this,
what
would
be
the
city's
posture
here
is
like
is
there?
Is
there
is
a?
Does
the
city
have?
What
are
the
city's
recruitment
methods
or
you
know
what
do
they
make?
How
are
those
these
are
these
availabilities
made
down
that
there's
that
there's
seats
to
apply
for?
I
think
it
ties
in
also
with
our
city
council
member
visits.
J
J
So
those
are
things
that
are
taken
into
account
when,
when
we
pick
you
all
like
like
who
the
members
are,
but
aside
from
that
in
terms
of
just
kind
of
putting
it
out
there,
you
know,
I
think
a
lot
of
that
comes
down
to
like
the
folks
on
the
committee
and
the
ideas.
You've
all
brought
up
so
far
are
good
ones
and
yeah.
F
Could
be,
it
could
be
a
chance
for
us
to
reach
out
to
some
parallel
committees
that
to
do
like
recruit
together
a
little
bit.
I'm
thinking
of
some
of
the
equity
committees
that
the
aging
committee
committee
for
people
with
disabilities,
where,
if
they
have
information
to
share,
we
could
work
to
share
a
cluster
of
them.
F
A
G
Well,
I
definitely
think,
at
least
from
like
sorry
forever
interrupted,
but
I
definitely
think
from
my
perspective,
it's
like
my
action
item
is
to
like
at
least
post
this
in
one
place
where
people
will
see
it
and
like
try
to
talk
to
at
least
one
organization
that
will
that
will
see
it.
I
mean
I
can
do
that.
I
feel
pretty
well
connected.
B
Our
own,
like
I
said
I
will
I
will
talk
to
my
friend,
who
is
visually
impaired
and
see
if
she
has
connections
and
then
follow
up
with
the
person
and
talk
to
them
through
the
foundation
for
fighting
blindness.
I
know
she's
been
to
meetings.
She
has
lots
of
friends
that
are
either
visually
impaired
or
totally
blind.
So
I
will
see
if
she
has
anyone
in
mind
and
follow
up
with
that.
F
E
E
A
A
I
C
E
F
E
F
That
and
I
for
those
of
you
who
didn't
get
to
meet
phil,
he
was
a
pac
member
who
lived
in
downtown
minneapolis
and
served
on
the
pack,
for
I
don't
know
how,
many
years
until
he
died
of
cancer,
I
think
maybe
the
fall
before
the
pandemic.
Although
it's
you
know,
it
starts
getting
really
blurry
and
with
just
a
really
awesome
contributor
and
member
of
of
the
pack
and
particularly
participating
in
pnp
meetings
when
he
could
count
on
being
able
to
get
here
and.
G
F
Wish
that
our
city
did
not
have
infrastructure
that
prevented
all
of
us
from
being
able
to
be
in
community
together
and
deny
each
other
that
those
little
those
little
meetings
where
you
get
to
know
people
where
you
find
out
that
maybe
you're
not
just
pack
members
serving
together,
but
you
have
things
in
common
and
enjoy
laughing
together.
So
I
think
millicent.
Maybe
we
can
just
kind
of
go
through
them
in
the
background,
while
there's
probably
30ish
of
them
so
yeah
the.
F
I
know
all
of
you
know
as
we
look
at
our
infrastructure
there's
patterns
in
the
ways
that
it
fails
us-
and
I
thought
peter's
suggestion
that
we
each
take
a
moment
to
share
an
example
of
sidewalk
conditions
or
winter
conditions
would
be
good
help
us
get
in
that
frame
of
mind.
So
if
people
want
to
share
anything,
they've
noticed
or
experiences,
they've
had
what's
been
getting
their
blood
boiling
or
surprise.
A
E
I
just
I
don't
even
bother
yeah
hold
his
brass,
I'm
damned
if
I'm
walking
on
the
sidewalks,
I'm
not
doing
it
and
if
the
city,
the
cops,
can
hope
come
up
to
me
I'll,
say:
yeah,
no
kidding
it's
dangerous,
tough,
yeah!
Well,
it's
equally
dangerous
to
walk
in
the
damn
sidewalk.
So
I
mean
what's
your
what's
your
what's
your
beef,
but
these
pictures
are
pretty
great.
E
I
have
thousands
of
them.
This
kills
me.
It
doesn't
do
any
good
to
live
on,
say,
38th
street
to
clean
the
sidewalk
down
to
the
bone
when
the
melt
at
the
curb
makes
anybody
think
four
or
four
and
a
half
times
about
crossing
through
there
anyhow,
because
they
can't
access
that
waste
every
night
all
the
way
through
march,
because,
of
course
that's
how
the
milk
works.
C
E
A
But
I
mean
I
mean
and
whenever
these
photos
came
from
I
mean
it
could
be
just
today
I
mean
you
know.
There's
I
mean
I
mean
I
was
off.
I
was
so
I
was
on
prime
house
today,
and
it
was
just
it
looks.
It
looks
just
like
this.
We
haven't
had
appreciable
snow
at
all
over
the
winter
other
than
some
accumulation
it
just,
but
it's
other
than
it.
Just
anything
you
see
in
these
photos
could
be.
You
could
have
taken.
You
could
have
taken
today,
so
so
yeah.
A
I
keep
pulling
you
austin,
I
know
forgive
me,
but
the.
What
is
your
like?
What
like
what
is
your
when
you've
got
to
go
out
during
the
day?
It's
like
what
is,
can
you
get
to
your
car
and
where
you
live,
is
that
or
you
get
to
the
the
corners?
What
is
your
what's
your
typical
experience
on
sidewalks
and
stuff
in
your
in
your
neighborhood.
G
I
think,
like
this
whole
experience
and
thanks
for
calling
me
into
the
conversation
because,
like
I
guess
the
first
thing
I
see
these
photos
is,
I
think
of,
like
my
privilege,
like
I
can
walk
on
ice
and
if
I
fall
I'll,
probably
be
okay,
but
I'm
able-bodied
and
I'm
young,
and
so
like.
I
think,
a
lot
of
like
what,
if
someone
doesn't
have
the
privileges
that
I
do
and
how
do
they
get
around
the
city?
You
know
if
it's
really
bad,
I
can
take
my
car,
I
own
my
own
car.
I
have
a
driver's
license.
G
Not
everybody
has
that,
and
so,
like
the
advocacy.
I
think
that
we
do
is
probably
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
we
do,
because
so
many
people
just
get
in
their
car
and
they
drive
off.
They
don't
think
about
the
other
people
and
and
we
need
to
try
to
educate
folks,
I'm
like
yes.
This
is
a
very
real
experience
and,
like
you
drive
past
this
every
day,
but
it
all
looks
the
same
to
you
to
someone
who
actually
has
to
navigate
sidewalks
like.
G
You
know
I
can,
I
can
afford
waterproof
boots,
so
I
can
walk
through
puddles
and
it's
fine,
but
not
everybody.
Has
that
experience
and
like
that's.
I
think
the
most
important
thing
I
have
to
say
is
like
when
educating
folks
on
this.
It's
it's
really
important
to
remember
the
voices
of
those
at
this
most
like
directly
impacts,
and
that's
that's
what
I
think
of
when
I
see
this
so.
D
G
B
The
other
thing
I
can
think
of
is
that
we
can,
I
mean
right
now.
I
can
see
all
this
and
it's
familiar
like
a
lot
of
people
have
said
and,
and
I'm
aware
of
it-
and
I
see
it
all
the
time
and
I
experience
it
all
the
time.
But
if
I
were
visually
impaired
it
would
be
terrifying
to
go
out
my
door
because
I
wouldn't
know
day
to
day
what
to
expect
and
there's
nothing.
B
We
can
do
about
the
fact
that
people's
front
steps
get
wet
and
and
get
slippery,
and
people
have
to
learn
how
to
deal
with
that,
because
that's
not
the
city's
problem,
but
this
is
the
city's
problem.
The
way
the
streets
are.
It's,
it's
always
terrifying
to
me,
the
bus
things
I
know
they're
better,
but
they're,
just
awful
it's
I
see
so
many
people
I
mean
I'm
old,
but
I'm
not
I'm
not
in
a
walker.
I
have
moderate
capabilities
to
get
around.
F
That's
forced
across
the
sidewalk
and
the
sidewalks
aren't
built
to
the
slopes
that
the
streets
are
for
drainage
and
the
ground
in
the
boulevard
gets
frozen.
There's
just
like
this.
This
really
we're
silent
about
the
city
policies
that
are
actually
exacerbating
problems
with
walkability
in
winter,
and
that's
one
of
the
ones
that
I
don't.
F
I
Oh
sorry,
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
this
looks
like
in
theory.
It
would
work
in
the
summer
when
there's
grass
that
could
absorb
the
water
run
off
from
the
sidewalk,
but
it
doesn't
matter
because
in
the
wintertime
there's
a
foot
of
snow
in
the
in
the
boulevard.
So
where
would?
Where
would
the
the
melt
run
off
to
in
a
perfect
world?
Where
would
it
run
off
to
if
we
could
design
it
and
the
city
would
do
it?
F
F
H
B
I
mean
that's
the
problem,
it
would
work
in
march
and
april
and
may
and
all
the
way
through
the
end
of
october,
but
during
the
winter
months,
when
there's
a
freeze
and
a
melt
and
a
freezing
amount
you're
going
to
have
frozen
ground
underneath
a
little
bit
might
go
through,
but
not
not
enough
to
make
it
really
safe.
I
don't
think,
do
you
julia?
Do
you
think
it
would
be.
F
I
I
would
not
think
so,
but
I
think
the
city's
tested
in
pervious
pavers
or
has
been
peter
and
I
walked
and
looked
for
some-
that
we
couldn't
find
in
the
winter
on
the
far
west
side
of
minneapolis,
and
then
niels
also
showed
us
where
there
used
to
be
some
outside
the
first
precinct,
and
I
don't
believe
those
are
still
there
or
if
they
are,
we
couldn't
see
any
difference.
We
checked
them
like
at
least
twice.
I
think
neil
and
yeah,
I'm
I'm
not
aware
of
any
that
have
been
developed.
G
I
will
say
too:
the
one
thing
I
want
to
add
is
like
it,
depending
on
the
scope
of
this
of
this
presentation.
We
could
certainly
take
some
photos
of
some
metro
transit
stops
that
are
impossible
to
access
it's
just
like
the
other
day.
I
was
on
washington
downtown
and
this
is
like
downtown
minneapolis
and
there
was
a
pile
of
snow
in
front
of
a
bus
stop
and
the
bus
driver
motioned
for
me
to
walk
over
to
a
street
essentially
to
get
on
the
bus
which
is
unsafe.
It
probably
breaks
muscle,
transit's
protocol.
F
G
F
I
should
probably
give
more
context
this.
This
was
literally
just
something
to
send
out
so
that
we
could
have
some
visuals
to
to
get
ourselves
thinking.
It
was
it's
not
something
that
has
another
plan
to
use
at
this
point.
So
we've
had
conversations
with
the
city
periodically
about
winter
snow
maintenance
that
that
are
very
infrequent
and
that
have
so
far
not
included
things
like
do
sidewalks
strain
and
how
do
they
drain
and
really
do
they
drain,
because
that's
not
what
it
looks
like
when
you're
out
there.
F
So
I,
as
far
as
the
the
metro
transit,
the
other
thing,
I've
seen
happen
periodically,
including
one
time
downtown
and
at
the
19th
stop
specifically,
so
it
seemed
I
don't
know
I
was
if
it
had
been
a
different.
If
it
had
been
the
25,
I
would
have
had
different
feelings,
but
at
the
19
like
a
whole
over
six
feet,
tall
of
snow
piled
right
in
front
of
the
bus,
stop
sign.
We've.
F
A
I've
heard
a
little
bit
to
see
some
attention
being
paid
to
winter
maintenances
from
this
from
this,
the
city
side
that
were
being
surveyed
and
there
that
there's
some
action
on
that
on
that
on
that
on
that
score,
it's
you
know,
and
I
and
I
and
I
consider
myself
chief
among
the
people
who
was
like
as
a
city.
You
know
the
spring
comes
and
they're
like
you
know
like
winners
of
the
winners
in
the
rearview
mirror.
It
never
happened
and
that's
what,
but
what
happened.
The
result
of
that
is.
A
Is
that
there's
no,
that
we're
seeing
there's
nobody.
There
seems
to
be
no
body
of
knowledge.
That's
like
a
city
where
winter
hits
every
every
year
that
there's
no
accumulated
knowledge
as
to
how
to
how
to
alleviate
the
the
obstacles
to
people
getting
around.
I
bring
up
the
mac,
so
the
metric
at
the
bottom
airport's
gonna
be
msp
airport
snowfalls.
They
have
a
you
know.
They
have
a
manual
which
I
picture.
You
know
it's
this
thick
and
it's
like
they
have
a
playbook.
It's
like
what
how
much
fell?
A
What
kind
of
snow
was
it
so
they
have
a
they
have
a.
They
have
a
a
strategy
for
every
type
of
snow
that
they
can
recognize
in
terms
of
depth
or
you
know,
is
it
wet?
Is
it
dry?
Is
it
you
know?
Does
it
freeze
under
it
or
freeze
over
that
sort
of
thing
so
and
that
that
us,
as
a
as
a
city,
have
nothing
like
that?
Just
as
every
winter
hits
every
year
we
just
start
over
from
scratch
is
a
is,
is
really
puzzling
so
to
see
the
winter
maintenance
they
kind
of.
A
I
don't
know
who
among
us
is
being
is
going
to
get
the
privilege
of
being
interviewed
or
surveyed
by
the
by
public
works
in
this
next
coming
period.
I
hope
it
can
keep
these
things
fresh
in
their
mind.
You
know
it's
like
the
you
know
the
the
the
drainage
issues
my
my
path
generally
is
to
if
I've
got
to
go
out
to
walk
at
this
time
of
year.
I
go
I
head
straight
for
richfield,
where
I
walk
on
the
streets.
A
You
know
where
they're,
where
it's
asphalt,
where
it's
plowed
and
it's
you
know
they
they
dry
out
and
everybody's
expected
on
the
streets,
but
they
have
a
few
sidewalks.
But
everybody
else
is
you
know,
but
as
otherwise
they
are
they're,
essentially
shared
streets
and
that's
the
least
stress
walking.
I
have
during
the
during
the
of
the
snowy
months.
B
I
will
say
that
I've
seen
improvements
since
they
started
sending
the
letters
out
about
clearing.
My
neighborhood
has
gotten
significantly
better
and
we
can
walk
in
our
name.
There's
a
couple
of
houses
where
it's
kind
of
iffy,
but
mostly
I'm
seeing
people
make
sure
that
they
get
their
streets,
their
sidewalks
in
front
of
their
home
shovel
down
to
the
cement.
B
B
A
A
J
H
J
G
J
E
F
When
I
was
it's,
it's
been
used
for
decades
and,
and
it
addresses
the
question
of
drainage,
frozen
ground
is
almost
impervious
and
if
a
warm
rain
should
fall,
while
the
ground
is
covered
with
snow,
the
runoff
from
the
rain
and
melted
snow
may
exceed
the
rainfall.
However,
this
condition
is
rare
and
is
not
generally
considered
in
the
design
of
sewers
and
basically
like
the
the
whole.
C
A
J
F
J
Well,
so
she
she,
she
wasn't
I
so.
This
was
like
the
update
that
was
planned,
which,
like
lisa
syrian,
was
not
in
charge
of
of
the
update
like
she
was
in
charge
of
like
the
pilot
program
or
like
kind
of
like
running
the
pilot
program,
which
was
something
that
happened
and
was
reported
back
on,
and
she
was
due
to
come
back
before
she
left
and
and
then
she
left
but
kind
of
like
a
separate
same
topic,
separate
sort
of
thing.
J
E
C
E
B
J
F
Okay,
so
here
would
be
my
suggestion
based
on
this.
We
are
talking
about
talking
to
city
council
members,
a
lot
of
whom
are
new
winter
maintenance
is
topical,
timely
and
the
update
from
the
city
is
unlikely
to
actually,
since
it's
an
update
to
a
really
insufficient
and
kind
of
terrible
study.
Initially,
it's
unlikely
to
be
great.
F
So
maybe
we
could
pass
a
resolution
that
calls
on
the
city
to
examine
its
role
and
its
policies
that
impact
sidewalk
or
clear
walking
routes
from
drainage
to
plowing
patterns.
And
if
we
pass
that
resolution
it
would
give
us
something
that
we
could
take
specifically
to
city
council
members
so
pass
it
mainly
with
the
city
council
members
in
mind
and
as
a
starting
point
for
the
conversations
that
we
want
to
have
before
winter
is
completely
over,
while
it's
still
in
their
minds.
E
C
A
G
F
Okay
and
if
it
seems
like
it's
just
not
right
for
the
meeting
like
that's
fine,
because
as
chris
said
this
isn't
probably
you
know,
public
works
is
doing
whatever
public
works
is
doing
around
this,
but
it
it
feels
like
it
could
be
something
that
helps
with
that
conversation
with
with
elected
officials
and
maybe
raises
some
of
the
issues
that
public
works
is
not
talking
about
with
us.
Even
when
we
ask.
J
I'll
I'll
just
add,
I
think
that's
a
good
approach
like
to
just
say
say
what
you
want
like.
I,
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I'm
like
we're.
We're
gonna
pick
this
up
as
as
soon
as
we
can
or
like
when
it
happens
and
like
taking
a
stance
and
like
putting
out
what
you
all
want
like
us
to
look
at
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
So
yeah.
E
F
E
E
J
E
A
Just
wanted
to
assure
julia
and
everybody
else,
so
we
we've
we've
done
a
really
good
job
on
like
we
got
a
good
team,
writing
resolutions,
writing
and
editing.
You
know,
I'm
glad
austin
is
contributing
last
in
the
recent
period
too,
I
think
we've
got
really
good
perspectives
that
bring
like,
through
a
sequence
of
drafts.
We
get
to
really
we've
been
getting
to
really
strong
resolutions
I
feel
like
so
so
you
know
anybody
can
have
at
it
julia
included,
right
and
we're
going
to
get
to
the.
A
I
think
we'll
get
to
get
to
a
good
place
with
the
finished
product.
So,
and
so,
like
my
audio,
was
a
little
sketchy
last
few
minutes,
so
I'm
taking
julia
is
going
to
take
a
first,
it's
gonna,
a
draft
something
we
can
get.
We
can
edit
and
be
have
ready
for
the
for
the
next
full
pack
meeting
a
week
from
westing
yeah.