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From YouTube: April 20, 2022 Local Board of Appeal and Equalization
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C
Good
morning,
welcome
to
this
live
broadcast
of
our
virtual
meeting.
This
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
is
authorized
under
minnesota
statutes,
section
13d
0.021,
due
to
the
declared
health
pandemic,
the
city
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
to
the
city's
website
and
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
public
awareness
and
transparency.
C
C
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
to
order.
The
open
meeting
law
requires
a
roll
call
be
conducted
during
a
virtual
meeting
and
a
certification
form
will
be
completed
for
each
local
board.
Meeting.
This
initial
roll
call
will
allow
the
city
assessor
to
complete
the
certification
form
on
behalf
of
the
board
members
with
a
verbal
signature.
E
C
C
It
okay:
it
has
been
moved
by
palmer
and
seconded
by
amba
to
adopt
the
agenda
with
that
I'll
ask
the
clip
to
call
the
role.
C
C
First,
we
will
call
on
the
applicant
who
will
be
given
five
minutes
to
present
their
appeal
when
your
case
is
called,
you
will
need
to
press
star
six
on
your
phone
to
activate
your
microphone
and
wait
to
hear
the
pre-recorded
message
before
speaking.
We
ask
that
you
state
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
and
then
present
your
appeal
to
the
board.
C
Next,
the
board
will
have
five
minutes
for
questions.
You
will
consider
and
take
action
at
the
end
of
each
hourly
grouping
property
owners
will
be
notified
of
the
decision
by
mail
after
the
board
has
adjourned
with
that,
let's
begin
with
the
appeal
scheduled
for
the
9
to
10
o'clock.
Time
frame,
the
appeal
application
for
4316
chicago
avenue,
case
number,
22-0411.
I
Good
morning,
thank
you
for
hearing
my
kids.
My
name
is
belle
wilson
and
I'm
the
owner
of
the
property
located
at
4316
chicago
avenue,
the
property
that
I
own.
It
is
located
in
front
of
the
walgreens
in
front
directly
in
front
of
the
loading
dock,
there's
a
fair
amount
of
noise
and
trash
that
is
going
from
the
direction
and
has
ended
up
in
our
backyard.
I
The
heavy
traffic
in
the
parking
lot
of
the
walgreens
is
also
contributing
to
the
noise
pollution.
Generally
speaking
chicago
avenue,
it's
a
really
busy
street.
We
get
vibrations
all
over
the
house
every
time,
there's
heavy
traffic,
including
the
buses,
something
that
I
anticipate
to
intensify
with
introduction
of
the
d-line
in
the
near
future.
I
The
location
is
also
just
five
blocks
away
from
george
ford
square
38
in
chicago
in
2020.
I
During
the
demonstrations
we
could
hear
the
chance
at
the
square
inside
the
house
pretty
much
throughout
throughout
the
days
in
last
year,
and
this
year
there
was
less
of
this,
but
is
you
know
this
theory
begins
begin
synaptic
and
crime
with
two
homicides
in
that
area?
Just
lost
upon
to
continue
the
theme
of
the
crime.
In
this
area,
in
2020
and
august,
the
walgreens
in
front
of
the
house
was
set
on
fire
in
the
middle
of
the
night
this
year.
I
It's
sorry
last
year
it's
been
a
bit
more
quiet,
but
there
were
two
instances
of
theft
directly
affecting
our
property.
One
was
the
breaking
attempt
in
the
garage
followed
by
a
better
theft
and
in
other
case
of
a
person,
stealing
the
prescription,
medication
from
the
porch.
I
So
these
are
the
these
are
the
reasons
why
I
believe
that
the
tax
value
of
that
was
that
was
the
best
should
be
decreased.
Thank
you.
H
Madam
chair
there,
the
applicant,
is
not
on
the
line
for
this
item.
Okay,.
C
Going
to
the
next
one
appeal:
application
for
2707
humboldt
avenue
south
case
number
22-0414.
C
Yeah
our
next
case
is
the
field
application
for
4034
washburn
avenue
north
case
number,
22-0417.
H
J
Yeah,
okay,
yeah
we've
moved
in
just
a
little
over
a
year
ago
in
march
2021
to
the
address,
and
we
paid
three.
It
says
it
said
then
I
know
like
if
you
go
on
the
internet
says
390
000
for
the
house.
We
actually
paid
386
500
because
we
got
some
money
off
of
the
closing
closing
costs
due
to
some
of
the
older
finances,
and
so
it
was
that
let's
set
350
for
2022
and
then
for
2023
350,
8
000.
and
I
didn't
catch
the
350
000.
J
Otherwise
I
couldn't
feel
before
before
for
that
too,
and
I
know
it's
worth
more
than
the
386
that
we
bought
for
just
because
the
market
has
gone
up
in
the
last
year.
I
talked
to
my
realtor
friend
and
you
can
see
the
market
went
up
like
9
or
10
since
then.
So
you
know
that's,
you
know,
let's
say
nine
percent-
that
you're
about
35
000
more
and
we
did
do
some
improvements,
as
I
put
in
the
writing.
J
We
put
in
like
eight
to
ten
thousand
for,
like
vinyl
flooring
painted
and
a
kitchen
countertop.
We
did
some.
You
know
some
of
those
good
changes.
Minor
changes,
but
we
did
replace
the
furnace,
which
is
like
25
years
old
or
28
years
old.
They
hate
air
conditioning.
J
We
had
to
get
that
repaired
because
that's
super
old,
the
water
heater
is
super
old
and
the
roof
is
very
old,
and
you
know
I
think,
in
the
next
five
or
ten
years.
All
four
of
these
things
are
through
appliances
as
well
as
redoing.
The
roof
will
have
to
be
done,
and
still
you
know
when
we
do
that
yeah,
then
we
feel
it's
worth
458
000.
But
now
I
think
it's
you
know
from
the
move.
I
don't.
J
I
estimate
it's
like
425,
430
000.,
and
so
I
know
that's
not
a
huge
difference
from
the
350
hates,
but
anything
helps
and
there's
already
a
stretch
for
us
to
buy
at
that
kind
of
price,
but
then
to
pay
the
property
tax
at
that
higher
amount.
Well,
just
just
bites
a
little
more
than
when
I
think
it
is
not
worth
quite
that
I
know
the
neighborhood
average
house
is
worth
that,
but
because
of
appliances
and
the
roof,
I
think
our
price
should
come
down
a
little
bit.
That's
all
all.
C
Okay
board
members:
do
you
have
any
questions
for
this
applicant.
F
Yes,
I
I
have
one
board
member
bertha,
just
a
quick
question.
I
was
just
wondering
you
mentioned:
you
replaced
the
countertop
since
the
sale
is
that
what
type
of
counter
top
was
it
the
materials.
J
That
was
a
granite
one
and
we
paid
like
one
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
for
it.
Okay,
thank
you.
Mom
well,.
K
J
No,
I
I
have
to
apologize.
We
have
not
done
the
roof,
we
have
not
changed.
We
have.
We
haven't
done
the
appliances,
we
have
not
done
the
furnace,
you
know
which
is
going
to
cost
the
six
or
seven
thousand.
We
haven't
changed
the
ac.
We
did
fix
the
ac
because
it
wasn't
working.
We
paid
about
200
for
a
guy
to
come
out
and
get
the
ac
operating
last
spring
and
the
water
heater
is
also
old
and
we
haven't
changed
that
either.
J
So
we
we're
just
kind
of
waiting
till
they
just
don't
work
anymore
and
then
we're
going
to
replace
those
things.
We
did
okay
and
then
there's
a
little
bit
more
flooring
over
the
wood,
which
was
in
rough
shape,
and
then
we
fixed
up
the
two
bedroom
floors.
We
put
a
laminate
flooring
and
one
my
brother-in-law
put
that
in
one
bedroom,
because
it
was
just
like
the
base
floor,
there
wasn't
taken
out
the
carpeting
or
whatever
kind
of
laminate
or
wood
was
over
it
and
then
in
the
other
bedroom.
J
On
the
main
floor,
we
had
to
get
a
guy
to
sand
the
floor
because
it
was
in
rough
shape
and
then
we
put
some
polyurethane
over
it
and
we
did
paints
like
the
basement
wall
was
in
rough
shape,
so
we
spruced
that
up
painting,
okay,
good!
Thank
you.
C
J
Well,
I
see
like
when
I
go
to
zillow
or
when
I
pulled
up
our
the
price
of
the
house
that
was
sold
out.
It
says
390.,
and
that
was
what
we
offered
at
and
you
know
negotiated
it
and
then,
after
our
inspection,
our
inspector
found
all
these
problems
and
talked
about
the
old
cold
utilities,
and
so
we're
especially
nervous
about
you
know
having
the
problem
and
the
ac
wasn't
working.
So
we
thought
we
would
have
to
get
a
new
ac,
but
luckily
we
were
able
to
get
that
fixed
for
200.
J
So
we
negotiated
the
price
down.
I
forget
that
time
period,
and
so
we
actually.
J
C
For
this
applicant,
hey,
mr
berger,
did
you
have
a
question.
C
H
Madam
chair,
that
is
a
write-in
case,
so
no
applicant
on
the
line
the
applicant
is
on
the
line
for
the
next
case,
item
nine,
which
is
two
two.
Oh
four,
three
seven.
If
you'd
like
to
introduce
that
case,
and
I
would
invite
the
applicant
to
unmute
their
phone
so
they'll
be
ready
to
present
to
the
board.
C
And
I'm
going
to
ask
the
applicant
to
join
us
now
and
I
apologize
about
not
knowing
how
to
pronounce
your
name.
So
please
go
ahead
and
tell
us
your
name
and
your
address.
C
B
B
Good
morning
my
name
is
jimmy
q.
My
address
is
10
15
16th
avenue
north
minneapolis.
This
is
a
rental
property.
I
bought
back
in
2019,
and
so
I
I
and
then
the
current
evaluation
prices
by
city
is
254
000..
So
I
think
this
value
is
way
too
high.
I
have
a
couple
points
to
stay
out.
B
First
of
all,
I
bought
this
property
in
2019
and
at
that
time
the
purchase
price
is
only
165,
and
that
is
the
fair
market
price
at
that
time,
and
we
also
did
the
appraisal
through
the
refinance
refinancing
process
in
january
2020,
and
I
also
submitted
appraisal
report
by
the
mortgage
company
and
the
price
value
is
also
165,
so
I
don't
think
from
2020
to
2022.
B
B
So
I
don't
expect
that
market
value
to
be
hot
that
high,
so
my
suggested
value
would
be
around
190
000
to
200
000,
and
the
second
point
is:
if
I
look
through
the
history
of
the
exclusion
of
the
evaluation
history
of
these
poverty,
I
think
I
just
never
have
a
chance
to
appeal
it.
B
B
So
I
think
this
is
way
too
high
and
third
point
is,
I
think
the
neighborhood
and
communities
should
also
be
part
of
the
consideration
of
this
evaluation
process,
because
because
the
turnover
rate
for
my
10
years
is
really
high
for
this
house,
my
downstairs
tennis.
She
decided
to
move
out
last
month
due
to
the
safety
research
in
the
neighborhood.
B
Recently
we
just
have
two
gunshots
are
happening
in
front
of
the
house
and
they
have
a
kid
and
have
to
send
to
school.
They
are
not
afraid
to
let
a
kid
go
to
school
bus
by
themselves
in
the
morning
so
and
I
and
they
I
put
this
house
into
the
market
for
sale
today.
I
don't
think
I
can
sell
it
for
the
250
for
a
thousand
dollars
price.
B
B
I
think
this
is
all
I
want
to
say.
I
suggest
the
the
ball
could
see
the
reduce
the
price
to
be
190
to
190
000
to
200
000
range.
Thank
you.
K
Yes,
this
is
board
member
palmer.
I
have
a
couple
questions.
Mr
q
sure
there
was
a
improvement
added
by
the
assessor
in
2022,
and
I
see
there
was
a
fire
damage.
So
so
could
you
just
repeat
that
did
the
only
thing
you
repaired
in
the
fire
was
exterior
siding?
Was
there
anything
done
on
the
inside
of
the
house.
B
Nothing
if
you,
if
you
send
someone
to
the
houses,
everything
inside
nothing,
changes
the
fire.
Damage
has
been
happening
on
the
back
side
of
the
houses
and
because
the
the
fireman
comes
and
they
have
to
break
through
so
there's
a
war
there
and
do
basically
damage
the
sightings.
So
we
went
through
this
insurance
company.
They
they
have
some
country
that
coming
in
and
basically
repair
the
back
side
of
the
sightings
and
affect
the
vector
and
that's
it.
I
don't
think,
there's
a
improvement
you're,
basically
just
a
repair.
K
Okay,
thank
you
so,
and
did
you
state
the
rent
was
2
000.
So
is
it
a
thousand
dollars
per
month
for
each
unit.
B
Yes,
but
I
mean
you
also
need
to
consider
the
turnover
rate
my
downfall
unit
has
been
weighted
for
about
two
months
now
and
it
hasn't
been
rent
out
and
over
the
past
two
years
we
have
changed
about
four
ten
years
already
they
because
the
neighborhood,
currently
the
violence
in
the
neighborhood,
is
really
high.
So,
okay.
K
B
No
originally,
it
was
like
1800
and
we
increased
that
to
over
the
last
two
years
we
increased
50
to
50
and
50
times
for
each
unit,
so
they
become
2001.
C
C
Our
next
case
is
the
field
application
for
317
groveland
avenue
number
117.
case
number
22-0440.
H
C
Will
read
this?
One
is
not
on
the
line.
Okay,
so
the
next
is
the
you
feel
application
for
two
five.
Four
zero
humboldt
avenue
south
case
number:
two:
two
dash
zero.
Four,
four
seven,
the
applicant
is
not
on
the
line,
so
we
will
proceed
to
the
next
case,
which
is
the
teal
application
for
forty
four
hundred
upton
avenue
south
case
number.
Two
two
dash
zero
four
five
4
the
applicant
is
timothy
gibbons
and
mr
gibbons
is
on
the
phone.
Is
that
right.
H
L
I
thank
you.
It's
tim
gibbons
calling
from
44
hundred
upton
avenue
south
unit
101..
Can
everybody
hear
me?
Okay,.
L
Great,
so
my
my
appeal
is
pretty
straightforward:
it
is
based
upon
recent
sales
in
the
excuse
me,
it
is
based
on
recent
sales
in
our
building
and
the
the
history
in
our
building
is
that
our
the
sale
prices
have
continuing
continuing
to
be
going
down
over
the
past
few
years
versus
up
like
the
rest
of
the
market.
L
The
there
are
some
improvements
that
have
been
done
in
the
unit
I
had
rent
headed
out
previously
to
a
tenant,
and
there
was,
we
apparently
had
a
crack
in
the
in
the
bathtub
which
led
to
tile
damage
on
the
floor.
Obviously,
there
had
been
previous
tile
damage
there
that
had
been
been
patched,
so
we
we
did
end
up
taking
out
the
tub
and
the
cabinets
which
also
had
some
damage
in
the
floor.
L
L
L
My
daughter
and
grandson
live
there
now
and
they're
paying
14.50
a
month
for
rent
we've
had
two
units
sell
in
our
building
in
since
we've
owned
our
unit,
the
unit
208
sold
just
recently
in
january
again
same
size,
same
number
of
bathrooms.
L
L
and
again.
I
don't
know
how
the
the
board
considers
realtor
commissions
and
into
the
equation
for
with
the
actual
sale
price
in
the
dollars
to
the
owner
were,
but
after
six
percent
commission
that
would
have
been
about
183,
000
and
then
108
sold
in
june
of
again
same
size
and
that
one
sold
for
210
and
after
a
reduction
about
192
000..
L
And
so
the
again,
based
on
the
I
know,
the
market
conditions
have
been
going
up.
Ours
continue
to
go
down.
We,
our
building,
is
rather
ugly
from
the
exterior,
which
is
unfortunate.
L
The
inside
obviously
works
just
fine,
but
we've
had
our
building
has
has
no
amenities
to
speak
of,
and
so
it's
not
a
high
desirable,
a
building.
Apparently
our
unit
also
101.
We
face
the
bus
stop
on
44th
street,
and
so
we
get
a
fair
amount
of
bus
noise,
but
traffic
noise
we're
also
right
above
the
elevator
motor,
and
so
we
get
vibrations
and
motor
noise
along
with
the
the
street
noise
and
then
our
building
also
our
unit
also
abuts,
the
the
driveway
and
the
garage
door.
L
So
we
get
some
of
that
noise
as
well.
I
didn't
recognize
these
things
when
I
purchased
the
unit.
It
was
a
unit
that
my
wife
and
I
were
going
to
eventually
live
in
when
we
needed
single
floor
living,
but
in
the
meantime
it
was
going
to
be
a
rental
property,
which
is
what
it
is.
L
As
my
again,
my
daughter
and
grandson
are
living
there,
and
so
I
essentially
took
the
the
the
comparable
prices
averaged
them
and
figured
that
my
unit,
even
with
the
improvements
in
the
bathroom,
would
still
be
worth
probably
five
to
six
percent
less
than
these
other
units
and
just
an
estimate
on
my
parts
and
that's
where
I
arrived
at
the
190,
fair
market
value
price
and
again
that
was
based
on
the
actual
sale
price,
not
the
the
commission,
reduced
prices
and
I
sent
along,
I
think,
in
the
attachment.
L
Just
again
the
information
from
a
realty
website
for
the
sale
prices
they
didn't
seem
to
be
recorded.
Yet
in
the
hennepin
county
database.
C
Let
me
make
a
correction
on
this
property.
Let
me
reread
the
case
into
the
record.
There
was
no
unit
number
on
my
list
here,
so
the
application
is
for
40
400
upton
avenue
cell
unit
number
101
case
number
22-0454.
C
Six
22-0462
the
applicant
is,
applicants
are
kurt
anderson
and
kathleen
mccormick.
Do
we
have
them
on
the
line.
C
In
case
case,
I
think
we
can
move
to
taking
action
on
these
cases.
Everybody
is
ready.
Why?
Wouldn't
you
do?
Okay,.
K
I
in
this
data
you
provide
a
lot
of
sales
but
that
they
aren't
necessarily
comps.
I
know
you
don't
know
how
to
to
compare
them
to
his
unit.
He
does
mention
crime
and
location
as
a
problem.
It's
five
blocks
from
the
george
floyd
thing,
so
I
don't
think
that's
an
immediate
thing.
He's
like
right
on
the
same
block
or
within
a
block
of
that.
So
I
don't
know
how
much
that
really
comes
into
play,
so
it
he
had
an
increase
of
doing
my
math
here,
15
percent.
K
I
I
I
think,
we've
seen
most
of
the
other
properties.
We
had
a
few
others
in
just
general
areas.
They
went
up
10
or
11,
so
my
only
comment
would
be.
Maybe
it
shouldn't
deserve
a
15
increase,
but
the
data
he
provided
is.
Is
it
doesn't
really
tell
us
much
as
far
as
the
comps
they're,
not
really
comps
they're,
just
sales.
C
Yeah,
I
didn't
find
the
information
that
provided
particularly
helpful,
just
a
list
of
addresses
and
and
with
him
and
sure,
were
those
sale
prices
or
were
they
valuations
on?
I
guess
they
were
marketing
evaluations,
so
they
weren't
even
sale
prices.
So
you
know
it's
not
a
it's
not
really
helpful
information.
As
far
as
crime.
C
G
K
F
I'll
second,
that
and
make
a
remark
that,
while
he
hasn't
presented
anything
it
would
have
been
best
he
can
move
on
to
the
next
step,
and
possibly
he
can
cite
some
sales
within
the
five
or
eight
block,
whatever
area
that
there's
higher
crime,
and
maybe
there
will
be
some
evidence
for
him.
C
Okay,
so
discussion,
I
would
say
that
maybe
he
has
a
face
here,
but
he
hasn't
provided
us
with
any
information
that
would
help
us
make
a
decision.
So
we
really
can't
extrapolate
to
that
to
that
point.
So
he
wants
to
move
on
and
provide
some
better
information.
Maybe
he
would
get
some
satisfaction.
G
C
It's
been
moved
by
bodertha
and
seconded
by
amba
to
sustain
the
value
of
1815
taylor
street
northeast
clerk.
Would
you
please
call
the
role.
K
On
a
per
unit
basis,
that's
152
000,
a
unit
which
we
don't
have
any
basis.
That
seems
reasonable
to
me
and
just
note
that
the
address
27th
humboldt
is
very
good
address
for
apartments,
and
I
I
would
doubt
he's
ever
had
any
vacancy
problem
in
this
unit,
but
we
don't
know
from
what
he
says.
So
I
guess
I
would.
I
would
move
to
sustain
the
value
of
one
million
six
hundred.
Seventy
thousand
two
hundred.
C
G
G
K
His
only
evidence
was
his
line,
was
I'm
assuming
the
real
estate
broker
was
being
too
aggressive
with
his
estimate
of
200
000,
which
I
don't
know
what
it
tells
us
other
than
his
broker
is
trying
to
fleece
them
or
something
I
don't
know,
but
there
was
only
a
slight
increase
and
without
any
other
data
I
don't
see
any
reason
to
change
the
value
on
this
either.
C
C
G
G
C
He
didn't
have
this
applicant
was
on
the
line.
K
Yeah
and
now
you
read
that
wrong,
so
he
said
he's
gonna.
Do
those
improvements
in
the
next
five
to
seven
years.
He
hasn't
done
anything
yet,
except
for
what
some
granite
countertops
and
some
flooring
and
paint
or
whatever.
So
I
don't
think
it
was
real
extensive.
What
he
did
you
know
was
nice.
K
It
probably
improved
the
value
a
little
bit,
but
if
he
had
a
sale
price
of
390
091
it's
up
to
458
000
I
it
might
be
a
little
high,
but
like
it's
a
realtor
told
him
went
up
nine
or
ten
percent.
It's
it's
in
the
ballpark,
so
I
I
I
just
I
don't
have
any
reason
to
to
cut
it.
It
could
be,
might
be
a
little
less,
but
I
I'd
leave
that
to
anyone
else
to
come
in.
F
Comments,
I'd
like
to
say
too:
we
don't.
We
don't
see
those
improvements
to
know
what
the
market
a
year
later
would
say
how
much
more
does
it
mean
ten
thousand
more,
even
though
it
was
maybe
didn't
pay
that
much?
How
much
more
does
that
mean
to
the
house?
F
C
Yeah,
I
I
couldn't
put
a
lot
of
weight
on
what
he
bought
it
for
simply
because
we
don't
have
any
information
about
that
sale.
Was
it
a
distressed
sale?
You
know
what
was
the
situation?
What
what
was
the.
C
C
G
G
C
Okay,
our
next
case
is
1906
johnson
street
northeast
case
number.
220426.
F
I
was
gonna
say
I
noticed
the
had
an
appraisal,
and
you
know
just
adding
seven
or
eight
percent
to
that,
because
it
was
about
a
year
ago.
Now
you
know,
brings
it
up
closer
to
into
that
270
275
range.
Where
we're
only
on
a
277..
F
C
I
had
also
looked
at
the
possibility
of
a
about
a
seven
percent
increase
over
time,
which
again
puts
it
somewhere
in
the
270
range.
So
the
evaluation
is
not
that
far
off,
but
we
did
have
an
appraisal
in
april
21st
just
a
year
ago,
but
there
certainly
has
been
a
increase
since
then,.
K
I
I
think
she
has
some
points
there
and
it
just
mattered
between
us
and
and
how
much
it
went
up.
So
I
I
think
270
is
a
good
number.
It's
not
a
big
reduction,
but
it's
it.
It's
only
going
to
be
a
six
or
seven
percent
increase
from
the
appraisal
date,
which
was
was
it
may
may
5th.
So
I
move.
We
decrease
the
value
to
270
thousand.
H
C
All
right,
if
we
move
by
plumber
and
seconded
by
amba,
to
reduce
the
value
of
1906
johnson
street
northeast
to
270
000..
Where
could
you
please
call
the
loan.
G
G
C
Our
next
case
is
the
appeal
for
one
zero.
One:
five
sixteenth
avenue
north
case
number,
two,
two
zero
four,
three
seven
discussion.
K
K
Their
notes
are
say
they
looked
at
the
main
level
deck
upper
porch,
not
a
lot
of
stuff,
but
there
was
some
stuff
done
to
the
porcher
interior.
Don't
know
what
that
means
as
far
as
the
value,
but
in
keeping
with
some
of
those
other
duplexes,
we
had
the
other
day
if
the
rent's
2000
and
the
gross
rent
multiplier
from
when
I
get
somewhere
between
nine
and
ten.
K
If
it
was
nine
and
a
half,
you
would
get
to
about
230
000
on
this
property
for
a
market
value,
and
that
would
be
like
a
rental
value.
It's
still
an
increase.
I
know
it
went
from
175
to
254,
so
I
think
it
should
be
somewhat
a
little
less
than
the
254
just
based
on
the
rental
income.
C
The
comps
that
he
provided
weren't
very
helpful
either
it
took
them
a
while
to
sell,
did
have
an
appraisal,
but.
M
C
Yeah,
so
do
we
have
a
motion.
C
C
Promotion
is
adopted
next
case
is
317
groveland
avenue
number
117
case
number
22-0440.
K
Again,
he's
provided
an
appraisal
from
march
of
2021
and
I'm
just
trying
to
make
my
notes
on
it
appears
that
all
of
them,
I'm
sorry
the
first
three
cops
were
in
his
building,
but
even
though
that
was
a
21
appraisal,
all
the
comps,
the
sales
were
from
august
of
20
and
looks
like
october
of
20,
so
those
sales
are
getting
a
little
long
in
the
tooth
for
january
2022.
K
C
And
I
noticed
it
was
certainly
a
decrease
from
the
previous
year,
so
we
did
see
a
fall
up
in
the
downtown
area
after
a
george
floyd
situation
and
people
were
selling
that
had
to
sell,
often
had
to
take
a
loss
or
had
to
sell
for
less
than
others
had
been
selling
for
a
year
year
earlier.
So
I
think
that
is
somewhat
reflected
in
the
fact
that
it's
come
down
from
328
to
302..
C
This
is
a
nice
building.
It
was
built
several
years
ago.
I
think
in
that,
when
the
frenzy
for
building
condos,
you
know
before
the
recession,
some
of
these
units
look
out
over
the
freeway.
This
one
is
on
the
first
floor,
so
I
don't
know
what
kind
of
a
what
kind
of
a
view
they
have.
C
It
is
a
nice
building
and
they
are
nice
units.
Now
I
do
believe
they've
come
down
and
I
think
that
is
reflected
in
the
value.
Is
it
reflected
as
much
it
should
be?
I
don't
know.
F
Yes,
I
was
looking
over
the
appraisal
and
I
think
one
of
the
comps
that
I
liked
best
result
in
a
value
of
290
000..
So
I'm
thinking
some
something
less
than
the
302
so
and
I
know
the
whole
appraisal
what
came
in
at
269.
so.
C
C
And
what's
interesting
about
that
came
in
at
269
and
a
purchase
of
264.90,
so
there's
a
the
praiser
had
no
problem
appraising
it
higher
at
that
point,
but
I'm
I
would
be
open
to
something
less
than
the
302
does
anybody
else
have
opinions.
K
C
B
G
K
He
this
is
a
board
person
palmer.
He
talks
about
various
aspects
of
his
house
and,
frankly
I
I
they're
they're
minor
issues.
I'd
I'd
be
hard-pressed
to
put
thousands
of
dollars
of
adjustments
on
them.
They
need
to
be
replaced
but
cost
30.
000,
ac's
and
rooms
are
old,
for
instance,
no
ac
in
kitchen
living
room
attic.
K
Well,
we
have
that
they
have
that
in
the
data
for
the
assessor
washer
dryers
in
the
basement.
Well,
that's
pretty
common
for
an
older
home
to
begin
with.
House
needs
sprinklers.
That
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
value.
People
don't
have
sprinkler
systems
in
there.
So
I
I
didn't
see
a
lot
of
pertinent
data
that
would
want
me
to
change.
You
know
thousands
of
dollars
of
value
off
off
this.
C
The
value
stayed
the
same
from
the
previous
year
and
had
only
gone
up
a
scotch
from
the
coming
year
before
that,
there's
really
not
enough
information
here
to
make
any
determination
on
values,
and
then
we
have
zillow,
which
is
obviously
reliable.
C
So
like
entertain,
emotions.
N
G
C
Right
removed
by
and
seconded
by
amba
to
sustain
the
value
of
2540
humboldt
avenue
south
clerk.
Would
you
please
tell
the
role.
G
G
F
I
I
like
to
say
he
had
a
a
good
case,
but
there
isn't
much
difference
in
value
here,
but
he
talked
about
bus
noise
and
things
like
that
that
he
wasn't
aware
of
when
he
purchased
and
the
same
thing
will
happen
when
he
probably
when
he
sells
the
new
buyer,
won't,
maybe
know
all
the
ins
and
outs
or
intricacies
of
the
property.
So
I
I
don't
know
how
good
an
argument
that
is,
it's
only
it's
a
first
floor
unit
and
it's
not
a
very
tall
building.
So
you
know
the
views.
F
Aren't
I
don't
know
if
anybody
can
see
the
lake
from
up
on
that
hill
or
not
and
he
wouldn't
be
able
to,
but
there
didn't
seem
to
be
a
whole
lot.
There.
K
I
would
say
I'm
assuming
this
building
that
the
units,
as
he
says,
the
the
same
size
as
his
or
their
they're,
pretty
similar,
if
not
identical.
So
the
problem
is
I
I
don't
verify
that
those
sales
happened,
I'm
assuming
they
did
the
the
195
and
the
210.
The
thing
I
want
to
mention
is
he
wants
to
take
the
commission
off
and
that's
not
part
of
the
proper,
that's
an
expense
to
all
the
buyers
and
sellers.
So
it's
just
part
of
the
sale
process.
K
So
that's
not
something
you
take
off
the
value.
The
other
point
is
well,
then
it
was
vacant
a
while
and
then
it
gets
14.50
a
month.
Well,
that's
a
real,
obviously
a
relative
rent
and
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
a
market
rent.
So
I
I
think
it's
close,
but
I
would
agree
with
mr
girth
he's.
Gonna
have
the
same
problems
if,
if
they
sold
for
210,
I
I'd
be
willing
to
lower
to
that
210
the
same
as
that
last
sale
was
and
just
leave
it
at
that.
C
This
is
one
of
four
buildings
that
were
renovated
all
at
about
the
same
time.
By
the
same
outfit
they
did
a
nice
job.
I
mean
they.
You
know
we
did
kitchens
and
bathrooms
and
they
were
all
apartment
buildings
that
had
started
out
and
that's
a
really
prime
address
right
there
in
london.
Hills,
like
you,
know
the
downtown
many
hills.
If
you
will
of
the
four
buildings,
I
find
this
one,
the
least
appealing,
but
it
does
have
tend
to
have
larger
units
than
some
of
the
other
buildings.
C
One
bedroom,
one
bath
units
in
those
buildings
were
selling
a
couple
of
years
ago
for
185
190..
I
had
one
in
one
of
the
other
buildings
at
185
and
people
were
jumping
all
over
it
to
buy
it.
I
had
lots
of
people
who
wanted
it.
Whether
or
not
the
sales
in
those
areas
have
in
those
goings
have
come
down.
C
I
know
they
haven't
gone
up
by
a
great
deal,
but
you
can
start
at
180
190
for
the
one
bed
and
one
bath
getting
a
two
bedroom
and
a
second
bath
does
give
them
some
value.
I
wouldn't
certainly
think
of
doing
anything
less
than
210
and
it
will
be
maybe
so
that
would
be
my
comment.
F
And
I
think
we
also
have
to
recognize
a
little
bit
that
that
the
market
has
come
down
there
for
these
type
of
properties,
because
he
paid
195
000
three
years
ago
and
similar
properties
are
getting.
You
know,
you
know,
195
to
210,
really
hasn't
been
from
back
then
three
years
ago
there
hasn't
really
been
a
whole
lot
of
movement
and
we
don't
have
much.
We
don't
have
much
on
this
property
anyway,
so.
C
G
G
F
I
know
there
really
isn't
much
much
information
here,
so
I'm
going
to
go
forward
and
make
a
motion
if
I
can
to
sustain
the
value
at
422
thousand.
C
It's
been
moved
by
bedrica
and
seconded
by
plumbers
to
sustain
the
value
at
46,
18
pillsbury
avenue
south.
Where
could
the
police
call
the
roll.
C
The
motion
is
adopted,
we're
right
at
10
o'clock.
We
finished
our
9
to
10
cases,
I'm
going
to
propose
that
we
take
a
five
minute
break.
I
know
we
have
some
people
in
the
waiting
room,
but
I
think
we
need
a
brief
time
up.
H
D
H
C
C
Applicants
are
rick
and
sharon
cornejo.
Do
we
have
them
on
the
line.
H
P
Sharon
eidon
cornell
750
south
second
street
number
409,
I'm
calling
regarding
case
number
two:
two:
zero:
four,
seven:
nine
and
also
two
two
zero
four
eight
zero
that
is
next
on
the
docket.
Both
of
my
parking
spots
went
up.
Eighteen
percent,
eighteen
percent
is
higher
than
the
price
of
inflation.
The
two
stalls
are
extremely
tight.
P
Neither
parking
spot
has
had
any
improvements.
The
parking
rates
in
minneapolis
have
stayed
the
same
and
in
some
cases,
even
been
reduced.
The
valuation
is
a
total
of
over
eleven
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
for
both
spots.
I'm
requesting
that
the
parking
stalls
remain
at
their
2022
assess
value.
Thank
you.
E
C
Okay
board
members:
do
you
have
questions
from
this
cornell.
F
Yes,
I
have
one:
this
is
board.
Member
bedrtha
are
both
of
these
parking
stalls.
Are
they
next
to
each
other
near
each
other,
or
are
they
in
tandem.
F
And
also
you
said,
they're
tight.
What
is
what
is
the
proximate
size?
I
know
a
parking
space
is
supposed
to
be
eight
and
a
half
to
nine
feet,
wide,
probably
by
20
feet
to
22
feet
deep.
Is
that
similar
to
what
you
have
or
are
they
smaller.
P
I
didn't
measure
the
spots,
but
I
think
it's
a
little
tighter
than
that
because
they
have
columns
right
next
to
them.
So
if
I
were
to
try
to
get
in
an
suv,
it
would
be
very,
very
difficult.
K
I
have
a
couple
questions:
is
it
it's
kind
of
unique
and
usually
they
sell
with
the
with
the
units?
Did
you
buy
one
with
your
unit
or
did
both
of
those
come
when
you
purchased
your
unit
in
the
same
sale,
both.
K
P
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
We
will
make
our
decision
and
notify
you
by
mail
before
you
stop.
I
I
need
to
read
into
the
record
the
other
one
of
yours,
which
is
teal
four
five,
seven
zero
second
street
south
number,
14
c
case
number
220480.
C
Okay
next
is
appeal:
application
for
okay,
I'm
going
to
read
all
these
into
the
record
at
the
same
time
and
then
because
they're
all
from
the
same
applicant
and
then
we
will
take
a
we
will
proceed
from
there,
so
so
the
one
first
appeal
is
for
2825
cedar
lake
parkway
case
number,
22-04.
C
C
And
the
last
one
is
the
application
for
2770
xerxes
avenue
south
case
number,
two:
zero.
Four,
eight
five.
Do
we
have
the
applicant
on
the
line.
H
H
O
Good
morning
my
name
is
nelson
snyder.
I'm
calling
regarding
these
four
apartment
unit
buildings
that
we
recently
purchased.
We
purchased
these
buildings
in
september
of
2021
only
three
months
prior
to
the
assessment
valuation
process.
O
As
we
went
on
the
on
the
value
on
the
valuation
process
and
at
28
25
cedar
lake
parkway,
the
evaluation
notice
currently
has
the
building
at
1
million
20
000.
We
had
assigned
a
value
of
930
000
to
that
building
the
apartment.
Building
at
30,
20
28th
street
is
currently
being
valued
by
the
by
the
valuation
notice
at
988
000
we
had
assigned
a
value
of
eight
hundred
and
two
thousand
dollars.
O
We
had
the
property
at
27.75
xerxes,
which
was
assigned
a
value
by
the
notice
at
nine
hundred.
Ninety
four
thousand
two
200.
We
had
assigned
a
value
for
the
first
agreement
at
834
thousand
dollars
and
we
had
the
final
property
at
2770
xerxes,
which
was
the
notice
evaluation,
has
at
814
thousand
six
hundred.
We
had
assigned
a
value
of
seven
hundred
and
six
thousand
dollars.
O
O
So
there's
you
know
we
are
working
on
repairing
and
fixing
items,
but
the
rents
are
also
extremely
low
and
the
pursuing
to
minneapolis
code.
You
know
rents
cannot
be
changed
for
the
first
90
days
and
even
with
that,
it's
hard
to
change
rents
in
the
middle
of
winter,
so
we
haven't
even
changed
the
rents
for
the
winter,
so
we
are
looking
for
a
reduction
in
value
based
on
actual
sales
price
that
was
paid
for
these
assets,
along
with
the
fact
that
that
was
the
market
valuation.
C
Big
board
members
questions
for
this
applicant.
F
Yes,
this
is
board
member
bernice.
I
have
a
real
quick
question.
I
noted
on
the
field
card
that
the
sale
there
was
a
sale
price
of
four
million
202
and
adding
up
what
you
said
was
3
million
272.
K
I
yeah
I,
I
noted
that
same
thing,
so
it
looked
to
me
like
the
sale
price,
was
in
excess
of
what
what
you,
what
the
market
values
were,
but
you've
added
another
building.
So
to
be
very
honest,
it's
it's
going
to
be
very
hard
to
you've
got
a
sale
of
four
out
of
the
five
buildings
you
didn't
buy,
all
the
one.
K
You
know
it's
beyond
the
scope
of
us
at
this
point
to
really
make
any
determination
on
that.
I'm
familiar
with
some
of
those
buildings.
You
know,
xerxes
is
tucked
away
it's
a
nice
little
private
street
down
there
between
cedar
and
calhoun.
I
know
they're
old
buildings.
K
K
C
C
O
O
C
Really
nice
buildings,
and,
as
he
pointed
out,
is
that
a
really
nice
street
and
I
tucked
away
a
little
straight
there-
is
there
anything
further
you'd
like
to
add.
O
H
C
H
Q
Hello
good
morning
this
is
andre
trewick
here,
just
confirming
everyone
can
hear
me.
Q
All
right
thanks!
Thank
you.
Yes,
thanks
for
taking
the
time
to
listen
to
my
appeal
today,
I'm
coming
to
you
with
regard
to
5553
nicollet
avenue,
it's
a
double
bungalow
I've
owned
for
quite
some
time
now.
I
was
just
reviewing
present
value
for
the
unit
for
the
duplex
based
upon
rents
that
it
can
charge
at
this
time,
and
I
notice
that
the
based
upon
the
rent
that
we
pull
so
I'm
just
talking
total
rent
here.
Q
Q
Using
that
present
value
based
upon
like
known
expenses,
insurance,
property,
tax,
known
water
bill,
general
maintenance,
I
calculated
a
value
of
you
know
roughly
191
300,
I'm
presenting
the
case
to
bring
it
to
192
thousand
dollars,
primarily
just
because
with
the
rents
that
the
unit
can
pull
in
and
the
affordability
limits,
and
I
I
feel
at
192
000
would
be
more
accurate.
I
had
also
noticed
that
this
unit
is
valued
at
the
same
amount
as
the
neighboring
unit.
Q
However,
the
neighboring
bungalow,
but
the
key
difference
is,
is
that
the
neighboring
bungalow
is
a
two
bedroom
per
unit,
double
bungalow,
so
it
sold
in
2021
for
346
thousand
dollars,
which
is
the
same
amount
that
the
5553
nicolette
my
unit
is
currently
valued
at.
So
I'd
I'd
like
to
propose
that
be
reduced
from
that
346
to
192
based
upon
the
affordable
rents
that
it
can,
it
can
pull
at
this
time.
C
Thank
you.
The
question
of
the
board
members
of
this
applicant.
K
Hi
miss
track.
This
is
don
palmer,
a
couple
questions,
so
you
say
the
ami
is
that
average
monthly
income
for
that
area
is
that
what
you're
is
that?
What
that
rep.
Q
I'm
pulling
it
from
the
city
of
ownership
and
rent
affordability
limits
put
out
by
the
metropolitan
council.
K
Okay,
so
you
feel
so
the
rents
are
20
through
25,
but
a
month
in
total
and
that's
fair,
but
is
it
possible
you
could
get
more
rents
and
still
not
have
vacancies?
Is
that
like
the
current
market
rent
for
that
area
or
might
the
market
rate.
K
Q
No,
I
mean
at
this
time
we
actually
first
listed
so
the
5553
unit.
There's
two
units.
I
call
them
5553
5555
for
clarity
5553.
I
recently
put
it
on
the
market
and
it
took
me
two
months
to
fill
it.
I
originally
started
it
at
1250
and
it
stayed
vacant
for
a
while.
I
had
to
reduce
it
to
1200
in
order
to
get
it
filled,
so
we
we
tried
higher
and
the
market
wouldn't
take
it.
So
I
had
to
lower
it.
K
Q
F
I
have
a
question:
this
is
a
board
member
bedritha.
I
noticed
it
on
your
spreadsheet,
mr
treywick,
that
that
you
cited
the
property
next
door.
5557
is
having
29.08
square
feet.
In
fact,
that's
with
the
with
the
basement.
They
both
have
the
both
have
yours
and
that
both
have
the
same
size
basement
a
thousand
three
eighty
four,
and
they
have
a
slightly
larger
first
floor,
which
gives
them
you
know
maybe
room
for
that
extra
bedroom,
but
the
the
two
properties
are
nearly
identical
in
a
sense.
F
Q
Q
They
actually
put
they
so
they
purchased
a
place
with
a
finished
basement,
finished
basement
on
both
sides,
so
they
even
have
an
egress
window
in
the
basement.
My
unit,
my
duplex,
does
not
have
a
finished
basement
and
the
space
is
primarily
used
for
laundry
and
storage.
So
it's
completely
unfinished
bare
floors.
Q
You
can
see
in
the
rafters
things
like
that,
so
it's
not
like
a
livable
space.
Another
thing
I'll
I'd
like
to
point
to
the
council
that
55-57
nikola.
If
you
look
in
its
history,
they
actually
were
required
by
the
city
to
put
an
addition
on
the
back
side
of
the
building.
So,
if
you're
looking
at
the
top
of
the
building,
it
would
be
like
it's
east
side,
the
rear
entrance
and
they
were
required
by
the
city
by
code
to
actually
make
turn
it
from
what
was
like
a
community
space.
Q
So
you
could
just
walk
in
and
then
walk
into
the
unit.
A
or
unit
b,
and
then
they
turn
it
into
like
a
separate
unit
that
you
actually
walked
into
for
I,
I
can't
recall
the
exact
reason
what
the
exact
code
was.
I
wasn't
the
owner.
I
just
spoke
with
the
owner,
as
he
was
kind
of
doing
the
work.
Q
Long
story
short
they
needed
to
finish
the
stairwells
and
have
them
be
separate
stairwells
because
he
had
a
common
area,
communicating
directly
into
a
bedroom
which
was
against
code,
so
they
they
had
to
do
a
significant
amount
of
work.
To
finish,
to
actually
add
more
square
footage
to
the
building
that
my
building
does
not
have,
and
the
figures
that
I
pulled
and
put
on
my
spreadsheet
are
ones
that
I
just
took
from
the
property
information
website.
Q
C
C
I
have
a
question,
mr
bland,
can
you
explain
what
prompted
you
to
use
poverty
at
1703
thomas
place,
north
as
a
comparable.
Q
Oh,
that's
a
fair
question.
I
I
I'm
not
a
professional.
This
was
actually
the
first
home
that
I
purchased,
so
I
don't
have
access
to
mls
or
anything
special.
I
use
zillow,
and
I
just
it
was
a
one
that
one
I
found
on
zillow
that
I
knew
like
just
by
looking
at
the
building
and
kind
of
understanding
how
double
bungalows
are
built
that
this
one,
that
one
was
one
bedroom
per
side
likely.
Also
that's
about
that.
That
was
the
only
one
where
I
really
felt
like
that
was.
Q
It
was
obvious
if
you
notice
how
you
search
on
zillow,
they
always
let
you
do
one
or
more
bedrooms
per
unit.
It
says
one
plus,
it
doesn't
say
exclusively
one.
So
it's
difficult
for
me
to
do.
Cert
do
like
for,
like
her
apple
sample
searches,
so
that
was
the
only
one.
I
had
any
confidence
in
beyond
using
the
square
footage
comparable
for
my
neighbor.
C
C
H
R
Good
morning
it
is
tip
reading
in
yes
presenting
the
case
for
the
3932
thomas
avenue
south.
I
bought
the
home
about
two
years
ago
and
I
think
the
tax
value
was.
You
know,
6
50,
something
like
that
before
I
bought
it.
It
went
up
to
when
I
bought
it.
I
purchased
it
for
7.50.
R
Didn't
complain
too
much
on
that,
even
though
I
thought
that
was
overvalued
too,
and
then
just
got
this
last
one
to
go
to
8.50
and
I
just
think
that's
very
high
priced
for
the
area.
I
mean
it's
such
an
eclectic
area.
I
mean
homes
are
all
over
the
board.
You
have
small
homes,
huge
homes,
it's
it's!
It's
all
over
the
board
and
I
just
took
my
valuation.
I
just
took
properties
all
over
the
place
that
sold
and
the
cost
per
square
foot
average
of
you
know
big
small,
whatever
it
might
be.
R
I
took
eight
homes
and
average
was
268.
When
you
take
that
valuation
per
per
square
foot
it
comes
in
at
645.
You
know
for
my
lot.
You
know
I
talked
to
assessor
and
they'd
kind
of
give
me
a
couple
properties
that
they
looked
at
and
their
lots
are
much
bigger.
You
know,
and
you
deem
you
know
my
lot
as
far
as
tax
wise.
You
guys
did
a
216.
R
another
ones
you
didn't
did
higher,
so
my
house
is,
is
actually
valued
way
more
than
the
other
two
homes
based
on
that
scenario,
but
even
just
taking
the
268.
When
I
take
the
averages
of
what's
been
sold
the
last
couple
years
in
the
area,
it
just
is
very
high,
so
you
know
I
was
trying
to
get
adjustment
back
down
to
700
000
of
doing
things,
and
certainly
not
this
850.
It
just
seems
you
know,
especially
with
what's
going
on
in
the
world,
with
inflation
and
everything
else
and
all
the
uncertainties
it
just.
R
What's
going
on,
and
even
comparing
the
two,
I
don't
know
where
those
two
got
there
comparison
to
mine
but
and
I
once
again
the
same
like
the
other
person,
I'm
not
an
expert
on
this
stuff
or
not,
but
you
know
I
just
deemed
that
that
is
just
something:
that's
not
not
appropriate.
So.
C
Hearing
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
you'll
be
notified
by
mail
once
we've
made
our
decision
and
convene
the
meeting.
Thank
you.
C
H
S
S
Well,
above
what
like
increases
have
been
with?
The
citywide
increase
has
been
what
my
ward
increase
has
been:
it's
clearly
an
outlier
on
a
both
absolute
dollar
basis
and
a
percentage
basis
for
a
home
even
compared
to
a
home
that
other
homes
in
the
black
that
are
actually
valued
and
new
construction
within
the
last
couple
of
year
years.
That
are
worth
twice
as
much
so
my
my
increase
is
conventionally
higher
than
that.
S
So
I
I
try
to
understand
kind
of
the
basis
why
mine
would
be
this
outlier
at
16
plus
percent,
when
the
average,
for
you
know
my
black,
both
the
street
I
am
on,
and
the
street
behind
are
roughly
3.1
percent
and
3.9,
and
when
I
compare
my
valuation,
which
I
think
related
to
other
like
properties,
particularly
a
neighbor
of
mine,
which
actually
is
a
larger
home
added
garage
space
with
a
three-car
garage,
etc.
S
You
know
I've
moved
from
a
position
where
I
was
valued
just
below
them
to
to
now
a
fair
amount
above
them.
So
I
just
I'm
not
arguing
that
the
home
is
increased
in
value
like
other
properties
in
the
neighborhood
and
on
the
block,
but
I
just
think
that
this
increase
is
is
out
of
line
and
thus
far,
it's
not
been
explained
to
me
why
my
property
is
so
different
and
unique
compared
to
other
properties
that
it
would
warrant
such
a
an
increase.
S
So
I
am
requesting
that
the
valuation
go
up
to
one
one.
Five
zero,
as
opposed
to
the
current
valuation,
is
which
has
gone
from
basically
one
one,
one,
four
to
one:
two:
nine
three.
K
Yeah,
this
is
board
member
palmer.
I'm
looking
at
your
comments.
It
says
I
have
a
1960s
home
renovated
in
2020
2013..
So
what
what
was
the
actual
year?
This
property
was
originally
built.
S
The
home
was
built
in
the
1960s
and
and
it
was
renovated
significantly
like.
I
said
in
2012-
into
2013.
one
of
the
unique
features
of
this
home,
which
I
I
think
is
very
important,
and
I
raised
this
set
an
earlier
appeal
after
the
construction
was
done.
You
know
my
first
level,
which
comprises
you,
know,
square
footage
and
you
know,
city
records,
etc.
My
first
level,
unlike
you,
know
most
of
the
homes
in
the
neighborhood
measures
about
seven
feet,
four
inches.
S
So
it's
not
kind
of
I
mean
it's
finished,
it's
nicely
finished,
but
it's
not
kind
of
your
typical
usable
space.
So
when
I
really
think
about
the
usable
square
footage
in
this
home,
while
it
includes
that
I
mean
my
more
kind
of
up-to-date
standard
living,
space
is
really
my
main
floor
and
a
small
addition
that
I
put
on
the
top.
So
you
know
again
when
it
gets
into
kind
of
comparisons.
S
You
know,
I
think,
that's
an
important
factor
but
yeah.
It
was
originally
built
in
the
1960s.
S
Yeah
and
first
floor
meaning
ground
level,
I
don't
have
a
a
sub
ground
basement.
So
the
first
floor
is,
you
know
where
the
garage
is.
I
mean
the
garage
is
a
you
know,
part
of
that
space,
not
the
square
footage
mounted.
But
yes,.
S
Yeah,
it
was
gutted,
it
was,
it
was
gutted
and
yeah
I
mean,
and
some
of
that
had
to
do
with
just
additional
damage
and
whatnot
found.
S
You
know
during
that
construction
process,
for
instance,
you
know
had
to
replace
actually
the
entire
roof
structure,
because
water,
which
wasn't
identified
during
an
inspection
prior
to
purchase,
was
identified
in
rots
and
mold,
and
things
like
that
were
uncovered,
so
the
renovation
actually
ended
up
being
more
extensive
than
originally
planned,
which
was
part
of
kind
of
the
cost
of
just
putting
it
back
to
you
know
what
it
needed
to
be
just
to
be.
You
know,
livable.
K
Okay,
so
you've
got
all
new
floors
and
sheetrock
walls
and
I'm
assuming
the
kitchen's
all
redone
and
the
baths
are
all
newer,
yep.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
Okay
hearing
none,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
you
will
be
notified
by
mail
after
our
meetings
are
finished
for
the
season.
Thank
you.
I
C
Okay,
next,
we
have
more
garage
spaces
now
we're
in
the
same
building.
There
are
four
of
them,
I'm
going
to
read
them
all
into
the
record,
and
I
believe,
if
I'm
not
a
mistaken,
that
these
are
all
being
appealed
by
the
property
manager
instead
of
the
individual
owners,
and
these
these,
perhaps
are
spaces
that
are
owned
by
the
association.
So
let
me
read
the
numbers
into
the
record
and
then
we'll
proceed.
C
The
first
one
is
the
application
for
seven
five
zero.
Second,
second
street
south
number
17
c
case
number,
two,
two
zero,
four,
nine
seven.
The
next
is
seven
five
zero
second
street
south
number
fifteen
b
case
number
two:
two
dash
zero:
five
zero
five,
the
next
one
is
750.
C
C
All
right,
thank
you.
We'll
move
on
to
the
next
case.
C
H
Madam
chair,
this
is
a
call-in
or
this
is
a
write-in
case,
not
a
call-in.
We
do
have
the
applicant
on
the
line
for
the
next
case
220501,
and
we
had
a
caller
that
I
just
admitted
oh,
never
mind.
I
recognize
the
phone
number
okay.
C
Thank
you,
okay.
Our
next,
then,
is
the
appeal
for
two
three
zero
one
colfax
avenue
so
page
number,
two,
two:
zero
five
zero
one.
The
applicant
is
alyssa
erickson
and
do
I
understand
that
ms
erickson
is
on
the
line.
H
Yes,
the
applicant
has
unmuted
their
phone,
and
so
please
proceed
and
address
your
case
to
the
board.
You'll
have
five
minutes.
N
Thank
you
very
much.
My
name
is
alyssa
erickson
2301
colfax
avenue
south,
and
we
recently
purchased
this
property.
The
closing
date
was
february
28th,
so
we
purchased
it
for
527
900
000,
and
that
was
the
appraisal
finding
as
well.
We
made
our
offer
in
january
and
the
current
valuation
is
803
000.
So
we
think
that
clearly,
the
market
did
not
support
that
price.
So
we'd
like
it
to
be
valued
at
the
527.9
that
we
paid
for
it.
C
Okay
board
members:
do
you
have
questions
for
this
equipment.
N
K
So
there
were
no
numerous
reductions
in
the
price
exactly
well
since
it
originally
okay,
so
I'm
just
curious
as
to
the
general
condition
of
the
building
accessories
it
good
and
average
plus,
but
it
I
just
note
that
it
was
it
sold
in
2004
for
525
000
that's
18
years
ago,
and
it
it
hasn't
changed
much
in
value.
What
would
you
say?
The
general
condition
is
of
the
property.
N
C
C
Okay,
it's
about
a
quarter
to
11..
We
can
get
started
on
making
some
decisions
about
these
cases
and
see
how
many
we
can
get
through.
So,
let's
go
back
to
the
beginning.
C
C
This
is
ernest
cornell
was
on
the
phone
talking
to
you
about
okay,
so
there
are
diagrams
in
our
packet
of
these
spaces
and
they
are
nine
feet
wide.
One
is
much
deeper
than
the
other
one
comments.
K
Is
it
can
I
ask
questions
of
the
assessor's
office
at
this
point.
K
C
K
I
noticed
we
have
a
lot
of
these
condo
stalls
and
all
of
them
had
been
flat
for
a
while,
and
then
there
were
some
increases
across
the
board
on
these
condo
garage
dolls
for
2022,
and
I
they
don't
have
any
much
information
on
them
and
I
know
it's
a
mass
appraisal
process,
but
you
know
I
I
I'd
be
hard-pressed
to
say
that
the
they've
all
gone
up,
15
like
they
did
unless
you
have
a
a
number
of
sales,
independent
sales
of
these
garage
stalls
that
are
saying
that
they
sell
for
that
now
or
something
of
that
nature.
K
I'm
just
it's
it's
hard,
I'm
hard-pressed
to
say
they
all
went
up
from
28
to
36,
000
or
whatever,
when
the
I'm
seeing
these
condo
values
in
a
lot
of
these,
that
you've
lowered
a
little
bit
and
they're
and
they're
not
that
strong.
U
Airbland
board
member
palmer.
We
did
take
a
closer
look
at
the
parking
stalls
this
year
and
looked
at
some
historical
data
with
respect
to
sales,
and
that's
why
you
saw
the
updated
sale
prices
as
far
as
this
year
compared
to
you
know
the
last
couple
years,
which
remained
flat.
So
it
was
taking
a
look
at
sales.
You
know
in
and
around
you
know,
downtown
to
come
up
with
the
updated
estimated
market
values
for
2022.
U
Chair
bland
board
member
palmer,
yes,
you
know-
and
I
don't
have
that
actual
sales
list
in
front
of
me,
but
there
were
private
sales
that
we
did
consider.
Okay,.
F
And
I'd
like
to
ask
a
quick
question
of
mr
alban.
Also
in
the
with
the
city,
are
these
parking
spaces?
And
I
don't
know
the
building
I
see
the
address,
but
I'm
not
sure
which
building
it
is,
but
are
they
pretty
typical
they're
going
to
have
columns
on
either
side
because
they're
concrete
constructed
there's
going
to
be
columns
every
once
in
a
while,
which
makes
them
a
little
narrower?
So
these
aren't
any
different
than
some
of
the
other
buildings.
You
have
downtown.
U
Here,
bland
board
member
bedertha-
I
am
not
familiar
with
this
building
and
I
cannot
I.
I
can't
make
an
educated
comment
on
that
due
to
the
fact
that
I
have
not
inspected
nor
have
I,
you
know
really
taken
a
look
at
the
pictures
for
this
particular
building.
T
Chair
land
and
board
members,
I
would
just
add
that,
for
those
that
are
unaware,
it's
not
uncommon
that
we
will
have
certain
complexes
that
are
developed
where
the
garage
dolls
are
included
with
the
unit
on
one
single
property
id
number
and
then
in
other
buildings
and
developments.
There'll
be
separate
property
id
numbers
for
each
garage
dollar
each
storage
unit.
T
So
we
do
have
to
look
at
the
market
of
sales
that
have
happened
across
on
the
city
and
across
those
specific
neighborhoods
and,
like
tim
said,
they
did
a
close
review
of
all
the
parking
sales
that
had
occurred
and
the
values
had
been
fairly
flat
for
a
few
years.
But
we
did
see
some
increases
to
garage
doll
units
and
to
the
question
about
the
columns
in
the
cases
497
505
those
cases.
There
are
some
pictures
and
you
can
see
within
that
building
that
there
are
columns
throughout
that
parking
structure.
F
One
of
my
concerns
is
there's
many
there's
many
parking
spaces,
not
only
in
this
building
but
other
buildings.
In
that
general
area
and
reducing
the
you
know,
the
city
assessor
has
equalized
meaning
trying
to
get
everything
as
normal
and
comparable
to
each
other
by
reducing
some.
It
throws
things
out
of
equalization
and
I'm
not
sure
that's
our
charge
to
be
equalizing
anything,
but
that's
just
a
concern
of
mine.
C
I
guess
my
comment
would
be
yeah
I've
shown
and
sold
in
a
lot
of
the
buildings
downtown,
and
there
are
those
that
have
very
generous
parking
spaces,
and
there
are
those
like
this
one
where
it
might
be
a
squeeze
to
get
to
get
your
vehicle
into
the
spot,
and
what
I
don't
have
in
front
of
me
is
information
about
what
other
buildings
are
valued
at,
where
the
pid
is
separate
from
the
unit.
C
Given
that
my
first
reaction
was,
this
seemed
like
a
bit
of
a
leak
and
these
particular
parking
spaces
didn't
seem
to
be
real
premium
parking
spaces.
C
K
Well,
this
is
a
really
tough
one
for
me.
For
that
reason,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is
according
to
instructions.
They
don't
have
a
lot
of
good
information
on
to
to
contest
that
evaluation
wise.
It's
just
you
know,
I'm
a
little
tighter
or
whatever.
So
based
on
that,
I
I
can't
see
that
we
can
change
that.
I
do
have
some
reservations
about
the
value
going
up
like
that.
K
But
it's
mr
modertha's
point:
if
we
start
lowering
five
six
ten
units
and
you've
got
garages
that
are
all
over
the
place
and
I'd
rather
that
the
assessor
take
a
look
at
and
go
well,
if
they're
all
too
high,
then
we
should
lower
all
of
them
type
of
thing.
So
I
guess
I
would
move
that
we
sustain
the
value
on
on
number
18
a
and
what
was
the
next
one
14
c,
the
next
two
cases
the
first
value
was
36
000
and
the
next
value
was
28
000.
F
C
C
That's
just
fine,
so
let
me
take
the
first
one.
First,
the
appeal
for
750
second
street
south
number
18a
case
number
22-0479.
C
C
B
G
C
K
Again,
you
know
we
discussed
both
of
us
promote
these
units,
but
I
I
thought,
as
mr
bertha
pointed
out:
oh,
is
there
another
sale
in
this
because
it
looked
like
the
their
value
was
below
the
sale
price,
but
without
throwing
that
fifth
building
and
they
didn't
file
on
it
and
then
no
income
expense
data
or
that
type
of
thing
I
I
just.
I
don't
think
we
have
enough
to
edit
to
change
and
they
can
move
on
to
the
county
or
file
in
tax
court.
At
this
point,.
C
I
would
agree
the
other
thing
that
I
asked
them
at
the
bottom
as
a
package,
or
they
were
available
separately.
Often
when
you
buy
as
a
package,
the
seller
is
willing
to
reduce
values
rather
than
go
through
selling
five
separate
units
to
five
separate
buyers,
so
that
might
have
contributed
to
the
overall
sale
price.
But
I
would
agree
with
you
and
I
think
we
can
dispatch
these
with
some
speed.
So
let
me
begin
with
2825
cedar
lake
parkway
case
number
220482.
C
C
F
G
C
G
C
C
G
K
I
move,
we
sustain
the
value
at
814
hundred.
C
G
G
C
Carries
next
is
the
appeal
for
5553
niklet
avenue
case
number
22-0490.
C
K
The
only
difference
between
the
one,
his
and
the
one
next
door
that
he
wanted
to
use
was
the
finished
basement,
but
the
bedrooms
and
all
the
living
areas
were
still
on
the
first
floor.
So
I
I
wouldn't
put
as
much
weight
on
finished
basement
space
as
added
value,
but
his
does
not
have
that
so
and
I'm
looking
at
his
rents.
They
seem
fair
if
I'm
using
a
a
little
better
grm
in
this
area
than
some
of
the
ones
I
used
in
the
near
north
or
south
side.
K
C
Yeah,
I
I
did
ask
the
question
about
the
top
that
you
came
up
with.
If
you
know
it's
not
even
supposed
to
be
a
cop
regardless,
no,
why
you
thought
it
might
be
any
other
comments.
C
Okay
hearing
none,
I
would
call
for
a
motion.
C
G
G
F
My
only
comment
is
that
it
looks
like
they
bought
it
in
the
middle
of
2020
and
simple.
I
don't
know
I
put
12
increase.
They
asked
for
nothing,
I'm
up
to
almost
I'm
at
8
39,
so
up
close
to
the
value
we're
on
for.
K
C
C
G
G
C
Is
adopted,
we
are
now
at
10
o'clock.
We
have
one
two
three
four
five
cases
to
make
a
decision
on.
However,
we
do
have
people
in
the
waiting
room
shall
we
do
what
we
did
last
time
and
take
a
five
minute
break
and
recess
and
come
back
with
five
minutes
everybody
in
agreement
with
that?
Yes,
all
right
callers,
please
remain
on
the
line.
We
will
be
back
in
five
minutes.
C
Could
you
please
tell
me
where
we
start
we
have
closed
on.
The
line
is
that
right.
C
H
We'll
start
with
case
or
item
number
29
on
the
agenda
case,
220503.
D
C
Okay,
that's.
The
record
is
like
that.
We
have
a
quorum
now
we
will
proceed
with.
We
have
some
callers
on
the
line
and
we'll
proceed
with
case
number
or
application
for
this.
These
are
garage
spaces
again
750
second
street
south
number,
20
c
case
number
22-0503.
H
H
Applicant
is
unmuted,
so
you
may
proceed
and
address
the
board.
You'll
be
given
five
minutes.
A
They
are
tandem
spaces,
so
each
space,
certainly
the
the
20
c
space
cannot
be
accessed
without
going
through
phase
12c.
A
A
So
at
this
point,
we're
just
questioning
the
market
valuation
and
requesting
that
there
be
no
change
from
the
current
valuation,
which
also
does
seem
to
be
high
but
consistent
with
some
of
my
neighbors,
which
is
the
29
700
for
each
space.
So
that
is
our
request
today,.
F
Yes,
I
have,
I
have
a
quick
one,
this
board
member
bertha.
You
said
it's
in
tandem,
so
what
what
we're
looking
at
is
a
space.
It's
about
nine
feet
wide
by
about
40
feet
deep!
Is
that
correct.
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
We
will
be
acting
on
this
deal
later
today,.
A
H
Madam
chair,
I
am
uncertain.
There
is
one
caller
ending
in
two
three
four
six
that
I
suspect
may
be
here
for
this
case.
Could
you
please
unmute
your
microphone
and
let
us
know
what
case
you're
present
for.
V
Good
morning,
thank
you
for
hearing
my
case
in
2021.
My
assessed
value
on
this
property
was
725
000.
in
2022.
It
went
up
to
879
000
and
I
unfortunately
missed
my
opportunity
to
appeal
for
2023.
It's
now
up
to
905
000.
V
V
I
spoke
with
the
assessor
connie
ferguson
last
week
and
she
stated
that
she
used
single-family
sales
comps
to
determine
my
assessed
value
and
as
a
residential,
two
unit
property.
She
should
have
used
duplex
or
two
unit
sales
to
establish
the
value.
She
did
state
that
she
would
need
to
take
a
look
at
comps
with
adus,
but
the
city
website
only
provides
searches
for
single-family
or
duplex
sales,
with
no
mention
of
properties
with
adus,
and
it
should
be
noted
that
the
single-family
sales
comps
that
I
found
were
consistently
higher
than
the
duplex
sales
comps.
V
I
did
provide
a
document
with
attached
comparable
e-styles
two-unit
sales
from
119
to
410
of
22
with
a
range
to
eight
fifty
thousand,
but
it
should
be
noted
here
also
that
in
a
typical
duplex
situation,
the
units
are
very
comparable
in
size,
from
side
to
side
or
up
up
and
down,
and
in
my
case
I've
got
a
2
600
square
foot
main
house
with
an
800
square
foot
adu.
So
the
valuations
I
think,
on
a
duplex
would
be
considerably
higher
than
what
mine
should
actually
be
count
at.
V
I
did
enclose
copies
of
a
comp
of
a
house
that
I
previously
owned
at
1605
west
31st
street,
which
is
a
residential
two-unit
house.
That
house
has
got
a
main
house
of
2800
square
feet,
so
it's
larger
than
mine,
with
a
1200
square
foot
apartment
and
versus
my
800
square
foot.
The
lot
on
that
house
is
a
7
000
square
foot.
7
000
one
square
foot
lot
versus
my
50
148
square
foot
lot.
V
I
did
a
renovation
on
this
property
back
in
2006
at
1605,
west
31st,
for
six
hundred
thousand
and
that
property
is
currently
assessed
at
seven
hundred
and
seven
thousand.
If
you
look
at
the
pictures
of
the
two
properties,
you
can
see
that
there's
a
substantial
difference
in
terms
of
size.
V
That's
a
corner
lot
there
versus
my
very
narrow
lot
and
the
property
is
much
larger
on
the
exterior
than
what
mine
is
so
even
though
that
property
at
31st
has
a
larger
lot,
a
larger
main
house,
a
larger
apartment
and
a
view
of
lake
bidet
mccoska
from
the
front
porch.
I
feel
that
that
property
is
probably
more
accurate
in
terms
of
copping,
my
property.
So
I'd
like
to
see
my
value
reversed
back
to
the
725,
because
I
feel
that's
much
more
accurate
in
terms
of
what
the
value
for
a
two
unit
would
have
been.
F
Done
okay:
this
is
mr
bertha,
I'm
just
curious.
You
know
this
adu.
Was
that
an
addition.
It
was
built
as
a
single
family
and
then
this
second
unit
was
an
added
on
years
ago.
V
Well,
this
yeah
this
house
actually
has
a
history
of
being
a
boarding
house
back
in
the
1960s.
So
there
was
two
kitchens
in
here
when
I
bought
it
that
had
like
a
number
of
little
apartments
all
over.
So
I
remodeled
the
house
back
in
2018
and
then
added
the
so.
The
adu
was
kind
of
one
of
the
back
apartments
that
was
converted
into
a
legal
adu.
It
was
never
a
legal
property
prior
to
my
purchasing.
K
So
I
this
is
chair
board
member
palmer.
So
it's
it's!
You
have
a
it's
kind
of
a
single
family,
the
old
existing
house
and
then
there's
a
second
unit
or
I'm
kind
of
confused.
Or
is
there
a
duplex
two
units?
And
then
you
added
a
third
unit.
V
No,
it's
it's
a
single
family
with
one
of
the
back
units
that
had
previously
been
here
made
into
a
legal
edu
and
that
back
unit
has
its
own
separate
entrance.
It's
got
its
own
separate
heating
and
air
conditioning
units,
so
it's
similar
to
a
duplex
but
was
limited
to
800
square
feet
under
the
city.
Rules
for
accessory
dwelling
units.
K
Okay,
what
it's
kind
of
new
to
me?
What
what
kind
of
occupancy
do
you
have
use
it
is,
you
can
usually
fill
it
up
all
month
or
is
there
days
here
and
there
that
is,
it's
not
rented
out.
V
V
Well,
there
wouldn't
be
any
way
to
really
get
into
the
unit
where
the
hallway
was
in
the
old
house
that
used
to
go
into
the
back
unit
is
now
the
furnace
room
for
the
for
the
accessory
dwelling
units.
So
the
only
way
that
you
can
access
that
would
be
through
the
exterior
door
that
enters
into
the
adu.
So
it's
a
completely
separate
unit,
even
though
it's
attached
within
the
footprint
of
the
main
house.
C
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
kramer,
for
your
presentation,
you'll
be
making
the
decision
later
today
and
you'll
be
notified
by
mail.
C
Our
next
case
is
application
for
905
franklin
avenue
south
case
number,
22-0511.
H
E
E
It
is
a
excuse,
me,
apartment
building
and
my
kevin
mcmullan
purchased
it
in
2018
on
a
contract
for
deed
with
how
he
purchased
it
and
who
he
purchased
it
from
steve
and
friends.
E
So
it
is
still
in
the
process
and
it
is
extremely
longer
process
than
we
had
ever
imagined.
But
we
just
finished
up
with
a
refinance
and
in
part
of
our
agreement
with
the
city
was
that
we
had
to
refinance.
E
E
E
I
did
attach-
or
I
sent
you
guys-
income
and
expenses
and
also
a
current
rental
for
the
property.
I'm
not
sure
if
you
received
that
this
morning
or
not
so
I
apologize,
I
didn't
send
it
sooner,
but
if
you
were
able
to
see
that
you
could
see
on
the
reports
that
in
2021
we
had
to
make
some
adjustments
to
the
2020
taxes,
because
we
weren't
able,
with
covid
tenants,
not
paying
rent
and
all
the
expenses
we
weren't
able
to
afford
the
full
2020
taxes.
So
we
ended
up
paying
them
in
2021.
E
But
after
that
you
can
with
a
5.5
cap
rate.
We
we
personally
estimate
the
value
to
be
about
1.4.1,
so
between
4.1
and
4.6
is
with
what
great
southern
estimated
we
were
just
looking
for
the
opportunity
to
lower
that
a
little
bit
or
the
value
since
we
are
unable
to
occupy
the
units
and
we've
had
all
these
expenses
come.
C
Okay
through
you
for
your
presentation
on
board
members,
you
have
questions
for
this
applicant.
K
On
on
your
rent,
roll
that
it
was
68
occupied,
so
you
mentioned
now,
you've
explained
you're
you're
renovating
the
units,
so
as
of
january
2nd
this
assessment
date,
I'm
curious.
What
what's
left
in
your
budget,
I
mean:
how
much
have
you
budgeted
to
complete
this
project,
to
get
them
all
up
to
to
to
code
and
then
be
able
to
lease
them
out.
E
Sure
so,
with
great
southern,
we
had
to
go
through
a
detailed
list
of
everything
and
we
estimated
to
be
about
20
to
25
000
per
unit,
because
we
had
to
gut
it.
It's
obviously
with
trying
to
get
people
to
do
the
work.
It's
taken
a
lot
longer
because
we
hired
berno,
matic
and
they've
just
been
extremely
busy.
Obviously
with
everyone
has
but
we're
looking
at
the
20
to
25
range
and
it's
taking
roughly
two
to
three
months
to
complete
one
unit.
G
K
And
then
the
next
question
is,
it
looks
like
the
assessor
last
year
had
made
some
adjustments
based
on
the
problems
and
the
things
you
mentioned.
It
was
lower
to
six
million
five
hundred
thousand.
Do
you
have
any
comment
on
that?
Would
did
you
discuss
that
with
the
assessor
or
go
to
the
board
or
how
did
that
get
arrived
at.
E
We
did
not
go
to
the
board
with
that
one
that
one
would
have
happened.
I
guess
that
one
just
happened.
Naturally,
we
did
not
do
anything
with
that.
I
am
currently
in
the
talking
to
leo
montez
about
the
current
evaluation
for
the
2023,
but
no,
we
did
not
address
the
other.
The
6.5.
G
M
C
E
E
E
C
Okay,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
We
will
be
making
a
decision
and
you'll
be
notified
by
mail.
Great.
C
Okay,
let's
move
on
to
the
appeal
for
35
washburn
avenue
south
case
number,
22-0512.
C
And
also
31
washburn
avenue
south
case
number
220513.
H
H
W
My
name
is
well
thank
you
for
having
me
this
morning.
My
name
is
patrick
wadick.
I
live
at
39,
washburn
avenue
south.
I
own
these
properties
that
we're
talking
about
I'm
going
to
bring
up
two
points
on
these
properties.
They've
been
vacant
for
years
number,
one,
the
surrounding
bacon,
land
valuation
surrounding
the
site
and
then
number
two
is
the
history
of
the
land.
So
I'll
start
out
with
a
surrounding
vacant
land
around
the
property.
W
This
land
is
on
washburn
avenue,
which
is
has
a
street
the
other
one's
got
the
street
on
the
other,
the
other
side
on
vinson
avenue
and
two
other
properties
that
I
own,
the
two
other
properties
on
vincent
are
at
each.
The
ones
on
washburn
avenue
are
at
sixty
thousand
dollars
each
this
land
is
and
then
the
other
land
surrounding
it.
That's
vacant
is
probably
anywhere
from
six
to
seven
thousand
dollars
a
parcel.
W
W
The
city
didn't
require
him
to
do
soil,
boring
for
the
structural,
solar,
soil
boring.
So
the
contractor
attempted
to
build
the
house,
they
did
build
the
house,
but
they
went
broke
and
the
client
lost
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
it
was
basically
because
of
the
poor,
soil
and
debris
and
water
surrounding
it.
They
went
down
probably
50
60
feet
and
they're
digging.
W
So
looking
at
this
is
just
looking
at
and
now
with
that
land
is
this
poor
property?
It's
just
been
sitting
there
for
years
and
the
reason
is
it
because
it's
was
sitting
on
a
pond
and
there's
fill
in
there
and
there's
just
poor
soil,
so
we're
asking
for
the
property
to
bring
bring
down
to
the
adjacent
properties
of
25
000..
W
Thank
you
for
your
time.
This
is
the
presentation
I
hope
it
goes
through.
F
I
have
a
quick
question.
I
I
noticed
I've
seen
a
map
of
this
area.
I
looked
it
up
and
apparently
the
the
two
properties
that
you
mentioned,
that
are
25
000,
are
adjacent
to
your
60
000
properties,
but
they're
landlocked
they're
behind
and
to
the
would
be
to
the
east.
Is
that
correct.
W
F
I
guess
I'll
say
it
is
behind
your
washburn
avenue,
though
I
it
is
right
behind
it,
so
yeah,
okay,
thank
you.
K
This
is,
I
have
another
further
question,
so
all
these
they
look
like
standard
size
lots.
Are
they
all
about
the
same
size
it'll
be
like
53,
5400
square
feet.
K
W
K
K
W
Yes,
I
have
had,
I
did
do
soil
burns.
I
got
it
through
an
auction
through
through
hennepin
county,
and
I
did
do
soil
borings
and
that
area
that
we're
talking
about
right
now
on
the
two
lots
that
we're
going
on
to
are
really
bad.
I'm
an
architect
and-
and
we
have
a
structural
engineer
and
the
idea
is
that
it
was
just
it
would
be
very
costly
to
build
on
and
that's
the
reason
the
land
has
sat
for
so
many
years,
just
all
around
it.
It's
just.
K
C
Any
other
questions
of
this
applicant.
Okay,
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
We
will
be
making
a
decision
and
you'll
be
notified
by
mail.
C
Okay,
that's
those
two.
C
The
applicant
is
helen
kim.
I
believe
I
understand
that
miss
tim
is
going
to
be
a
calling
in.
Is
she
on
the
line.
C
C
The
next
case
is
the
appeal
for
4548
garfield
avenue
case
number
220517.
C
Okay
next
case
is
my
application
for
one
two:
zero
one
yale
place
unit
number
1906
case
number
two:
two
dash
zero
five
one,
eight,
the
applicants
are
blaine
and
lee
jones
have
they
called
in
this
morning.
Madam.
H
X
Okay,
my
name
is
blaine
jones.
My
address
is
54
lock
lake
road
northeast
in
fridley,
and
I'm
calling
about
a
condominium
that
we
purchased
in
january,
which
is
at
1201
yale
place
unit
1906,
and
I
am
my
wife
and
I
are
appealing
the
market
value
of
the
condo.
X
It
is
listed
on
the
on
the
document
on
a
document
that
is
for
the
the
2022
assessments
for
condos
payable
in
for
for
taxes
payable
in
2023.
X
It
is
the
assessment
is
seven
hundred
twelve
thousand
dollars
for
the
unit
and
we
are
asking
that
the
value
be
reassessed
on
to
588
thousand
again.
We
purchased
this
this
year
january,
14th
of
2022
made
the
offer
in.
I
think
it
was
november,
maybe
early
december,
I've
included
documents
within
this
that
parse
after
reading
the
the
the
information
and
at
the
request
of
the
assessor,
because
she
said
there
was
some
question:
it
wasn't
showing
up
on
city
records
that
my
wife
and
I
own
the
place.
X
So
I
included
a
copy
of
the
warranty
deed,
which
you
should
have
and
then
also
on
the
settlement
statement.
From
our
closing.
I
included
that
and
as
well
to
help
establish
the
value
of
what
we
paid
for
it
and
then
the
january
14,
2010
2022
ecrv
submission
that
I
believe,
is
made
by
the
closing
company
to
to
to
the
city
or
county
hennepin
county
to
value
the
property.
X
X
That
was
done,
I
think,
on
december
9th
so-
and
you
should
have
that
in
your
in
your
documents,
but
our
appraisal
came
out
at
610
000..
So
I
just
use
that
as
the
base
price.
I
looked
at
the
valuations
for
the
parking
spaces,
which
was
they
were
each
11
000.
I
subtracted
that
and
that's
how
I
ended
up
with
the
estimated
value
of
588
thousand.
K
Hi,
this
is
board
member
palmer,
so
this
property
was
for
sale,
you
mentioned
it
and
it's
it's
been
reduced.
A
couple
of
times
was
at
699
in
in
july
and
649..
K
And
are
the
I
know
it's
this
building
was
built
in
1981.
Is
it
still
the
original
kitchen
and
baths
and
those
or
have
there
been
any
updating.
X
The
the
kitchen
had
been
updated,
the
powder
room
had
been
updated,
but
the
the
there
was
another
bathroom
and
the
master
bath
has
not
been
updated.
Okay,.
C
Okay
hearing
none.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
We
will
be
making
a
decision
and
you
will
be
notified
by
mail.
Thank.
C
The
application
for
5148
washburn
avenue
south
case
number
22-0519.
H
C
The
applicant
is
joseph
palmutento
and
I
understand
he's
on
the
line.
Please
start
star,
6
and
I'll
meet.
Y
I
am
just
appealing
because
the
home
is
under
remodel
and
it's
the
the
main
level
is
currently
gutted
and
I'm
just
if
it
were
all
done.
I
would
not
have
any
questions
with
the
valuation,
but
knowing
that
it
would
not
sell
for
the
this
appraised
or
assessed
value
in
its
current
condition.
Y
I
believe
I
sent
some
photos
when
I
originally
filled
out
some
of
the
paperwork
online.
K
K
Y
Well,
what's
today,
last
week,
I
had.
M
Y
The
gal
you
know
when
I
got
the
original
paperwork,
the
valuation
notice
I
had
called.
I
believe
it
was
the.
What
was
the
deadline?
Bear
with
me?
I'm
sorry,
okay,
the
the
on
the
valuation.
It
said
the
meeting
was
the
18th,
so
I
had
talked
to
her
on
the
14th.
Y
C
C
C
So
we
can
move
to
making
some
decisions
here,
so
we
got
a
little
out
of
whack
here
because
we
didn't
finish
with
the
morning
ones
so
where
what?
Where
do
we
need
to
go
back
to?
Madam.
H
Madam
chair,
you
would
be
on
agenda
item
22,
which
would
be
case
number
220496
for
3736
zenith
avenue
south.
If
you
wanted
to
pick
up
from
where
you
last.
C
C
Okay,
I'm
going
to
assume
you
are,
since
I
hear
no
objections,
so
the
appeal
application
for
3736
zenith,
avenue
south
case
number,
220496.
F
I'd
like
to
say
that
this,
this
property
must
I'm
looking
at
past
assessments,
2019,
2020
and
then
a
small
increase
in
2021.
I
they
must
been
being
given
some
consideration
by
the
assessor's
office
through
reviews
or
been
to
the
board
of
equalization
prior
years
to
have
their
value
held.
It
sounds
like
it's
somewhat
of
a
unique
property
with
the
walk-in
level
or
the.
If
you
want
to
call
it
the
basement
level,
it's
the
walk-in.
It's
got
a
shorter
height,
so
it's
a
unique
building.
F
C
Did
you
look
at
the
value
of
the
the
edition
and
it
was
a
400
000
work
was
done
prior
to
this
order.
I
mean
it's
back
in
2012.
C
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
it,
because
I've
sold
on
that
block
a
nice
one,
you're
right
by
like
calhoun.
It
did
seem
like
kind
of
a
big
jump.
I
would
agree,
but
I
don't
know
how
much.
K
F
Okay,
well
I'll
I'll
move
to
reduce
the
value
to
1.2
million.
C
Right,
it's
been
moved
by
bedertha
seconded
by
emba
to
reduce
the
value
of
the
property
at
3736,
zenith
avenue
south
to
one
million
two
hundred
thousand
percent.
Please
call
the
roll.
G
G
C
T
T
If
I
understand
correctly
and
chose
not
to
attend
today,
appealed
another
garage
stall
that
our
staff
had
handled
earlier,
and
it
was
one
of
those
board
recommendations
that
you
would
approved
on
monday
sounds
like
they
are
opting
to
work
with
our
team
on
these
to
clarify
any
confusion
about
if
they're
actual,
true
parking
spaces
or
not.
I
just
wanted
you
to,
for
full
transparency.
Have
that
information,
knowing
that
we
are
trying
to
reconcile
this
with
the
association
as
well.
C
T
K
I
guess
I
would
it
looks
like
they
might
need
a
reduction
but
they're
working
with
them
toward
that
goal
and
to
keep
things
equalized
like
we
did
in
the
earlier
cases.
I
I
guess
we
should
just
sustain
them.
C
C
C
G
G
C
C
C
G
G
C
C
C
C
B
C
Yeah
jumping
ahead
here
I
see
that
all
right
so
case
number
two,
two:
zero,
five,
zero
seven
did.
I
get
a
motion.
M
C
You
know
by
paul
murray
and
seconded
by
bedurka
to
sustain
the
value
of
50
752nd
street
south
number
13b
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
C
It's
two
two:
zero
four,
nine
eight.
F
Nice,
they
supplied
a
appraisal.
I
don't
know
if
there
was
any
other
comps
or
anything.
The
appraisal
seemed
to
be
the
the
main
thing
I
I
would
just
suggest.
Maybe
we
it
was
a
2020
appraisal.
Maybe
we
had
some
some
appreciation
to
that
appraisal.
It
might
be
still
a
little
short
of
the
354
000
run
at
10,
more
it's
320
000..
C
G
F
I
looked
at
the
appraisal.
The
one
thing
I
was
concerned
about
on
the
appraisal.
There
was
three
of
the
comps
were
over
there,
laisdale
or
cameron
from
stevens
or
something,
but
there
was
no
adjustment
made
and
23.0.
F
Let's
see
what's
the
edges,
2301
colfax
is
certainly
a
better
location
than
those
that
were
brought
forward
in
the
blaisdell
area.
F
So
that's
that
was
my
only
concern
with
the
appraisal
that
I
thought
it
was
a
little
lacking
in
that
knowing
minneapolis
might
show
on
a
map
to
be
x
amount
of
blocks
away,
but
those
are
there
should
be
adjustment
for
those
number
of
blocks.
K
K
Yeah
I,
when
I
ask
that
question,
I
don't
know
how
to
resolve
that,
but
he
said
that
it's
a
big
house
with
nice
woodwork
but
deferred
maintenance.
So
I'm
assuming
everything
else
is
is
really
old
and
it
that
the
perhaps
the
bathroom,
the
kitchen
fixtures,
I'm
not
sure.
But.
C
It's
got
a
lot
of
charm,
it's
not
on
the
corner,
because
23
23rd
doesn't
go
through
there.
So
it's
in
the
middle
of
the
block.
I
think
there
might
be
an
apartment
building
next
to
it.
I'm
not
I'm
not
precisely
sure
about
that,
but
there
is.
But
I
think
my
concern
is
what
a
discrepancy
there
is
between
the
sale
price
just
a
couple
months
ago,
and
the
value
and
the
fact
that
they'd
been
on
the
market
for
quite
some
time
at
higher
prices
and
had
come
down
until
they
finally
bought
it.
C
For
you
know,
527.9,
so
between
the
end
and
803,
there
seems
to
need
to
be
some
some
room.
We
can
agree
on.
K
Yeah,
I
agree,
that's
a
head
scratcher,
I
don't
understand
and
maybe
can
help
me,
but
it
seems
like
a
nice
address,
like
you
say
I
think,
they're
in
with
a
lot
of
apartment
buildings,
it's
probably
a
very
busy
street,
but
to
be
reduced
three
times
and
then
no
other
offers
in
a
market
that
you
get
multiple
offers
for
on
properties.
Something
doesn't
compute
on
there.
C
Yeah
and
it
may
be
deferred
maintenance,
it's
a
historical
property.
It
was
one
that
was
built
by
an
architect
that
was
quite
well
known.
It
is
not
a
busy
street,
it's
very
quiet.
Bryant
would
be
the
a
little
busier
and
so
would
cultivate
somewhere
dupont,
but
kofax,
not
so
much
so
that
isn't
a
huge
issue.
Some
old
houses
have
been
taken
down.
C
You
know
back
in
the
day
when
the
baby
boomers
were
all
moving
out
and
they
put
up
all
those
apartment
buildings
that
are
ugly
as
sin,
so
there
might
be
one
next
door
to
it,
but
I'm
guessing
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
deferred
maintenance
and
probably
probably
pretty
dated.
So
I
just
can't.
I
can't
I
can't
agree
to
sustain
the
803.
I
guess
bottom
line.
K
The
other
point
I
would
make-
and
I'm
not
understanding
this-
I
I'm
sorry,
but
I
feel
like
the
appraiser
is
trying
to
get
down
to
the
sale
price
for
this
deal
on
those
two
good
comps
for
quality
of
construction,
he's
got
him
say:
q3,
whatever
his
measures
are
all
the
same,
and
yet
he
takes
40
000
off
the
first
one
and
20
000
off
the
second
one,
they're
the
same
aged
property.
So
I
don't
see
it.
I
don't
know,
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
here.
K
C
Second,
my
second
one:
oh
okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
reduce
the
value
to
500
and
we
say
575
000,.
F
K
It's
a
little
lower
than
I
go,
but
it's
it's
just
guesswork
at
this
point.
So
I'm
good
with
it.
C
Okay,
I
will
say
that
I
think
it
is
too
low.
I
will
be
voting
nay
on
this,
but
I
can
obviously
be
I'll
blank
tier.
It
all
depends.
I
think
it
needs
to
be
higher
than
that.
F
I'd
be,
I
threw
out
a
number,
I
can
accept
a
different
motion.
I
know
we
have
to
vote
on
the
one
motion,
but
I
just
wanted
to
start
by
throwing
out
a
number.
F
C
F
I
don't
want
to
make
something
that
makes
everybody
happy.
I'm
I
move
to
reduce
the
value
to
625
000.
C
E
C
All
right
clerk,
would
you
please
call
the
roll
on
the
motion.
B
G
C
That
carries
the
motion
is
adopted,
okay,
so
we're
at
noon,
and
this
is
where
we're
supposed
to
recess
for
until
next
week.
However,
there
are
several
cases
on
which
we
have
not
made
a
decision.
How
do
we
need?
How
do
we
want
to
proceed
on
that.
K
C
T
I
would
say,
as
long
as
the
clerk
is
willing
to
able
to
staff
it
that
we
should
move
ahead
and
reconcile
all
of
these
pick
board
action
as
swiftly
as
possible.
Madam.
T
C
C
Okay,
that's
fine,
we'll
still
have
a
quorum.
Just
let
us
know
all
right.
Thank
you.
So
would
you
help
me
figure
out
where
the
heck
we
need
to
go
now.
H
C
Okay,
surprisingly
enough
they're
right
on
top
here,
imagine
that
okay,
so
the
next
two
appeals
are
again
for
garage
spaces,
750
second
street
south
number,
20
c
case
number,
220503
and
also
750
second
street
south
number
12c
case
number
220504.
C
These
are
the
ones
that
are
the
tandem
spaces.
I
believe,
is
that
right,
yeah,
okay,
questions,
comments,
motions.
F
Are
these
going
to
be
worked
with
the
assessor?
Also,
is
this
part
of
the
working
with
the
assessor.
T
T
Tour
blend
and
board
member
vice
chair
bertha.
These
are
not
in
with
those
others
that
were
filed
with
the
association,
so
these
you
I
mean
they
did.
They
did
present
to
you.
So
I
would
say
that
you
should
take
action
on
them,
whether
you
sustain
the
value
and
our
staff
will
continue
working
with
them
or
a
reduction.
F
I
just
feel
that
if
it's
a
you
know
a
tandem,
the
one
one
spots
behind
the
other
that
one
should
be
should
be
less
and
should
be
considered.
As
you
know,
as
the
successors
go
forward,
it
seems
like
the
one
in
the
back
should
be
worth
less,
but
I'm
willing
to
sustain
the
value.
Also.
K
I
I
would
agree
steve,
but
why
don't
you
make
a
motion?
I
would
sustain
the
open
one
and
then
make
them
reduction
whatever
you
feel
necessary
in
the
second
one.
F
C
F
F
That's
true
yeah,
so
now
I'm
confused
because
one
is
yeah
they're.
Both
of
them
are
not
as
usable
as
a
regular
parking.
C
F
Well
I'll
I'll
make
a
motion
then,
to
reduce
the
value
on
these
to
thirty
two
thousand
dollars.
C
Okay:
okay;
okay,
since
a
move
by
the
girth
of
a
second
and
by
palmer
to
reduce
the
value
to
32
000
discussion.
C
F
Again,
my
number
was
arbitrary
and
I
don't
disagree
with
you
at
all
on
that
and
I
can
withdraw
my
my
previous
motion.
C
F
I
move
to
reduce
the
value
to
29
700.
C
C
G
G
F
C
G
C
Okay
and
for
the
record,
that
is
case,
number
two:
two:
zero:
five,
zero
four
and
the
motion
is
adopted
next
case
23
21
humbled
mine
has
gone
away.
Where
is
it
serious.
M
K
Yeah,
this
is
a
pretty
unique
situation,
so
I
he's
got
it:
it's
not
even
rented
a
monthly
basis
he's
using
it
as
a
vrbo,
so
the
potential
at
sixty
dollars
a
night
is
for
a
lot
of
income
on
that
thing.
But
I
don't
know
how
you
value
that
it's,
I
noticed
in
the
assessment
record.
They
added
some
value
and
he
redid
that
325
000
in
2019
and
that
went
to
725,
000
and
and
then
two
years
later
went
up
to
879.
K
So
it
has
had
quite
a
lot
of
increase
and
I'm
thinking,
maybe
it's
too
much
increase,
but
I
just
don't
have
a
good
handle
on
what
how
much
more
value
that
adu
gives
to
the
the
whole
property.
F
Yeah,
I
will
say
it's
it's
I
I
kind
of
disagree.
I
agree
with
the
assessor's
office
that
this
maybe
would
be
closer
to
a
single
family
home
because
that's
how
it
was
really
built.
It
was,
you
know,
transformed
into
some
rooming
units
over
the
years,
but
it
was
built
as
a
single-family
home.
Therefore
comps
can
be,
but
I
think
they
would
have
to
be
adjusted
downward
as
opposed
to
using
a
real
duplex
or
a
two
unit
building
and
and
making
adjustments
to
that
because
they're
two
dif
they're
different
animals.
C
I
would
agree,
I
think,
using
a
duplex
for
concert.
Comps
makes
it
quite
difficult
because
you've
got
such
different
split
four
footages
here,
plus
he's
not
using
it
as
a
regular
rental.
So
one
day
it's
occupied
the
next
day.
It
just
isn't
so
I
don't
know,
there's
certainly
some
upside
to
sixty
dollars
a
night
as
long
as
you've
got
somebody
in
there
late.
K
Right
so
if
he
got
it
every
night,
it'd
be
eighteen
hundred
dollars
a
month
and
for
a
new
year,
and
that
thing
that
might
be
close,
but
I
think
a
monthly
rent
would
be
a
little
less
than
that.
If
you
do
it
on
a
monthly
basis,
you
wouldn't
be
getting
1800
a
month,
but
that
still
doesn't
help
me
reconcile
the
value.
I
just
what
was
the
number
you
wanted?
I'm
trying
to
find
that
now.
C
F
K
I
would
entertain
something
maybe
close
to
last
year's
value.
I
don't
know-
and
just
say,
let's
I'll
make
a
motion
I'll
make
a
motion
reduce
it
to
879
thousand.
That
was
what
it
was
last
year.
C
D
C
Next
one
is
5215
france
avenue
south
case
number,
220510.
K
My
only
comment
is
all
is
all
his
so-called
comps
or
whatever
are
our
zillow
zil
estimates
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
So
I
don't
know
I
I
it's
hard
to
make
comparisons,
and
how
good
is
that
zillow
can
be
good
and
it
can
be
bad.
It's
it's.
It's
not
real,
reliable.
C
Not
to
be
relied
on
exactly
so
this
property
by
the
well
first
of
all,
you
and
yeah
ewing's
going
to
carry
more
france
is
busy.
So
that's
certainly
true
about
the
france
versus
ewing
argument,
but
the
thing
we
don't
know
about
this
property
is:
how
does
it
actually
compare
to
the
other
properties
they're,
comparing
it
to?
C
It
turns
out
that
this
property
is
a
lot
larger
than
the
cops
he's
used
by
a
considerable
amount,
so
that
that
leaves
me
feeling
that
his
as
his
morning,
517
is,
is
too
low
and
so
he's
598
too
hot.
That's.
K
Right
and
the
other,
the
other
point
I
make
is
he
stuck
in,
I
think
by
mistake.
He
stuck
in
the
zillow
for
his
own
property,
it's
704
741
000,
so
that
doesn't
help
in
his
argument
at
all.
If
his
comps
are
using
zillow
so
yeah,
I
I
don't.
I
agree,
france
avenue
is
it's
crowder.
This
is
a
bigger
property,
it
seems
nice,
his
zillow
can.
Doesn't
you
know
help
him
at
all?
I
I
would
think
we
should
sustain
the
value.
C
Okay,
I'll
second,
it
all
right.
It's
been
moved
by
palmer
and
seconded
by
amba
to
sustain
the
value
at
598
000.
clerk.
Would
you
please
call
the
roll.
B
H
C
K
Right
so
I'll
make
some
comments
there.
So
I
know
that
many
years
ago,
when
I
worked
there,
that
steve
friends
was
an
owner
of
numerous
apartment
buildings
and
was
cited
for
problems
with
the
buildings
and
not
maintaining
them,
and
he
used
force
to
sell-
and
this
is
one
of
the
properties
he
did
sell
it's
actually
in
one
of
his
best
properties
as
far
as
location,
but
obviously
some
problems
in
the
building,
the
assessor
looked
at
it
and
reduced
it
to
6'5
last
year.
K
K
If
I
suggest-
and
I
don't
have
any
reason
to
disbelieve-
if
it
was
completely
finished-
that
the
assessor
value
of
728
is
that
far
off,
it
seems
reasonable
and
if
I
multiplied
out
the
worst
case,
25
000
a
unit
times
46
is
about
a
million
one
to
finish
this
project
off
I'm
coming
up
at
about
6.3
million
for
a
value
now,
do
we
want
to
go
below
the
six
five?
It
was
last
year
to
six
three.
F
Yeah
with,
and
the
fact
is
that
reducing
the
value
will
also,
the
assessor
will
catch
up
with
it
when,
when
all
the
repairs
are
done
and
it's
you
know,
it
has
to
take
a
step
back
but
another
little
piece
of
history
on
this.
This
was
a
zorb
zabalis.
Building
that
stephen
friends
got
and
every
building
that
he
sold
on
contract
for
deed
was
not
declared.
F
M
K
So
I
would
agree
with
steve
I
mean
when
they
do
all
the
work.
The
asses
can
go
and
say
it's
all
done
and
we'll
put
it.
We
should
put
the
crank
it
back
up
to
where
it
should
be
so
I'll
move
that
we
reduce
the
value
I'm
going
to
go
in
between
my
number
I'll.
Let's
reduce
I'll
move,
we
reduce
the
value
of
six
million.
Four
hundred
thousand
okay.
M
F
C
The
more
emotional
carries:
okay,
our
next
one,
the
next
two
actually
can
take
together.
That
would
be
we'll
have
separate
motions
but
they're
35,
washburn
avenue
south
case
number
220512
and
address
31
washburn
avenue
south
case
number.
22-0513.
K
My
only
discussion
was
mr
bergertha
brought
up
looking
at
the
map
and
he
thought
those
were
kind
of
landlocked
and
he
the
appellant
disagreed,
were
they
do
they
front
on
vincent
or
what's
this
mythical
street
that
he
says
exists
there?
I
don't
understand
that.
F
C
It
sounded
like
what
he
was
saying
is
they
are
working
on
that
and
are
bringing
a
sewer
line
through
there,
so
whether
they
started
the
worker
and
it
kind
of
sounded
like
they'd,
started
the
work,
which
would
explain
why
it
doesn't
show
up
on
the
map.
K
Yeah,
I
again
I
don't
this
is
in
that
kind
of
bryn
mawr
area
and
it's
not
not
a
terrible
address
but,
as
he
pointed
out,
there's
not
a
lot
of
demand
for
vacant
lots
around
here.
They
don't
sell
for
much,
but
the
other
hand
is.
It
is
front
on
washburn.
K
C
Yeah
a
couple
years
ago
it
was
valued
at
40
000..
Then
last
year
went
up
to
60
and
it
was
still
at
60..
So
I
would,
I
would
certainly
be
amenable
to
reducing
the
value
on
both
of
them
by
some
figure.
K
C
To
reduce
the
value
of
31
washburn
to
forty
thousand
quite
could
you
please
tell
the.
B
G
C
Adopted
and
I
think
we
took
those
backwards-
I
said
31
washburn
when
35
was
ahead
of
the
vest.
So
let's
go
back
to
35
washburn
case
number.
Two
is
zero.
Five
one
two.
C
Okay,
you
know
by
palmer
secondary
kadurpa,
who
used
to
value
to
forty
thousand
dollars
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
G
G
F
C
K
I
would
agree,
I
move
that
we
sustain
the
value
at
883
000.
C
All
right
been
moved
by
paul,
palmer
and
second
and
by
amba,
to
reduce
the
value
to
oh,
my
god.
What
did
you
say.
K
C
Thank
you
clerk.
Please
call
the
roll.
B
G
C
F
I
noted
the
one
comp
that
they
mentioned
was
in
actually
in
robinsdale
across
the
parkway,
and
so
I
I
don't
know
it
had
a
lot
smaller
lot.
The
the
petitioner
or
the
appellant
has
quite
a
large
lot
there
on
the
victory
memorial
drive
there
of
9
000
square
feet,
so
it's
larger
than
most
and
larger
than
the
one
that
was
in
robinsdale.
They
gave
as
a
comparable.
C
K
Yeah
it
looked
like
it
was
all
exterior,
brickwork
or
something
I
don't
think
the
the
the
actual
house
itself
was
seemed
to
be
in
these
pictures
so
well.
The
pictures
I
saw
the
house
didn't
look
that
bad
to
me
so,
and
it
is
a
big
lot.
So
I
I
we
had
these
other
xerxes
ones.
It's
a
nice
address.
I
don't
know
it
it
did
it
didn't
go
out.
It
went
up
a
decent
amount
from
last
year
from
417
to
498.
K
That's
19,
that's
my
only
worry.
Did
it
really
go
up
19
in
value,
but
I
haven't
seen.
I
don't
see
anything
that
they've
presented.
That
would
make
me.
You
know
come
to
some
other
conclusion.
F
Yeah,
well,
they
do
have
a
sale.
That's
right!
You
know,
I'm
just
you
know
looking
at
two
early
20s
so
two
years
ago,
sale
at
410
000.
is
there
evidence,
I
believe.
C
K
C
U
C
All
right,
it's
been
moved
by
a
follower
except
it's
seconded
by
amba,
to
sustain
the
value
at
498
thousand.
Or
could
you
please
call
the
law.
C
C
Motion
carries
board
member
amba
is
this
where
we
lose
you,
okay,
we'll
see
you
next
week.
C
H
C
Okay,
I
want
to
offer
some
opinions.
F
It's
a
duplex
in
in
the
kingfield
neighborhood,
it's
pretty
nice
a
fairly
nice
address
down
there,
but
really,
no,
I
don't
see
much
for
they
supplied
the
rents.
Maybe
you
can
help
me
with
that,
mr
palmer,
but
35
25
3525
a
month-
and
there
was
very
little
information
to
go
on.
The
person
said
that
that
there's
very
few
properties
sold
in
the
kingfield
neighborhood,
those
that
were
sold
are
under
six
hundred
and
ten
thousand,
which
is
their
value.
F
There
were.
There
are
one
at
five
sixty
hundred
sixty
five
thousand
last
year
and
went
to
six
ten,
which
was
a
large
increase
and
the
owner
is
requesting
585
somewhere
between,
but
again
without
much
information
to
support
that.
C
So
I
found
my
packet,
all
I
wrote
was
sustain,
so
I
whatever
he
provided
here,
didn't
convince
me
that
we
should
do
anything
different
yeah.
K
Yeah
she'd
the
cops
she
said
were
they.
They
are
kind
of
comparable,
but
the
largest
one.
Hers
is
three
bedroom
units,
the
2957
total
square
feet
and
this
one
on
49th
and
lindale
sold
for
634
000.
That
was
also
three
bedroom
units
2800
square
feet.
So
I
thought
it
was
a
little
high
on
the
grm.
It
looks
more
like
it
should
be
in
the
mid
to
500
000
range,
but
the
this
one
on
lindale
doesn't
seem
all
that
different
sold
for
634
000.
K
Okay,
yeah:
this
is
27.
This
was
built
in
24.
I
don't
know
I
I
they
have
some
information,
but
that
that
really
isn't
enough.
It
might
be
a
little
on
the
high
side,
but
I
don't
think
it's
terrible.
So
I
I
vote
to
sustain
the
value
of
six
hundred
ten
thousand.
C
Oh
I'm
sorry.
The
motion
was
by
paulson
and
seconded
by
boberta
to
sustain
the
value.
Now
the
clerk
of
all.
G
C
C
F
I
don't
think
we
have,
I
mean
we
have
the
sale
and
it
is
so
close
to
the
assessment
date
I
and
noticing
that
the
value
or
the
asking
prices
come
down
several
times.
I'm
not
so
sure
we
have
much
room
other
than
I
mean
to
lower
the
value
down
to
closer
to
the
sale
price.
K
K
I
remember
back
in
the
day
when
these
were
like
the
premier,
some
of
the
premier
condominiums
back
when
I
was
working
at
the
city
and
they're
just
they're,
just
getting
old
now
so
yeah
and-
and
I
noticed
that
we've
seen
this
on
some
other
condos-
I
I
think
the
market
is
soft
on
these
condos
and
the
city
has
been
reducing
these
values
for
two
years.
K
So
this
seems
like
a
real
stretch,
to
go
down
to
610,
but
I
don't
even
know
that
we
should
go
much
higher
than
that,
if
not
to
the
sale
price.
I
it's
it's.
It
is
what
it
is.
F
C
Okay,
it's
removed
by
palmer
and
seconded
by
boderta
to
reduce
the
value
on
1201
yale
place
number
1906
to
610
thousand
dollars.
Please
call
the
roll.
G
G
C
K
C
Good
promotion
has
been
made
by
palmer
and
seconded
by
boldurtha
that
we
sustain
the
value
at
474
thousand
dollars
clerk.
Please
call.
G
C
F
This
is
another
one
where
I
think
the
assessor
will
catch
up,
meaning
when
it
all
gets
finished.
I
think
we
should
be
giving
a
reduction,
possibly
even
close
to
where
it
was
last
year,
200,
the
that's.
What
happened
last
year
went
from
2020
to
2021,
with
no
movement
on
the
value
and
stayed
at
200
000..
F
G
G
K
Yeah
it's
another.
One
house
needs
a
lot
of
work.
There's
no
pictures,
nothing!
No
sales
doesn't
look
like.
It
went
up
all
that
much.
I
moved
that
we
sustained
the
value
at
146
000.
C
G
G
C
T
Chair
blind,
this
is
rebecca.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
update.
You
have
about
173
cases
still
for
you
to
hear
and
decide
on,
and
I
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
of
those
173.
T
Approximately
40
of
those
are
condo
units
or
units
that
are
part
of
the
calhoun
isles
condominium
complex
that
are
on
dean
court.
You
may
have
read
in
the
I've,
seen
news
about
the
problems
that
that
those
buildings
are
experiencing,
and
so
we
are
actually
meeting
with
the
department
of
revenue
tomorrow
to
have
a
conversation
and
get
some
guidance
from
them.
T
So
we
are
unsure
if
all
those
cases
are
going
to
be
presented
to
you
individually
or
if
we're
going
to
bring
a
recommendation
to
the
board
for
the
entire
complex
okay.
So
it's
unsure
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know,
that's
I'm
going
to
be
on
one
of
the
agendas,
but
again,
thank
you
for
your
service
this
week,
you've,
I
think,
done
a
phenomenal
job
been
very
transparent
and
fair
and
equitable
with
the
property
owner.
C
And
8
30
again
on
wednesday
right
first,
both
days,
okay,
all
right,
anything
else
that
we
want
to
clear
up.
I'm
just
wanted
to
comment
how
many
people
are
on
this
call.
C
But
so
I
mean
this
takes
up
a
lot
of
staff
time.
You
know,
but
you
guys
you
keep.
You
keep
us
right
on
track
and
I
really
appreciate
it
so
I'll
be
looking
forward
to
my
next
packet
of
materials.
It's
so
astonishingly
interesting
shall
we
say
so
far.
I
haven't
had
to
recuse
myself
from
anything.
So
we'll
see,
have
a
good
rest
of
the
week
have
a
nice
weekend.
I
understand
supposed
to
be
in
the
70s
on
saturday.
So
go
wild
I'll,
see
you
next
time.
C
Meeting
is
recessed
until
tuesday
8
30.