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B
B
C
A
I'm
so
sorry
there
was
a
sound
over
light.
Was
that
a
you're
here,
commissioner,
ford.
D
A
A
Oh,
I
think,
commissioner
rainville,
I
think
your
mic
is
off.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
and
commissioner
sweezie
here.
B
A
Yes,
wonderful!
Sorry,
thank
you!
No,
that
I'm
glad
to
have
you
here.
So
if
I
can
count
which
is
a
question
that
is
a
member's
present,
thank
you.
B
All
right,
so
we
have
a
quorum
next,
we'll
proceed
to
the
agenda,
a
copy
of
which
was
posted
for
public
access
to
the
city's
legislative
information
management
system,
which
is
available
at
lims.minneapolismn.gov.
B
Commissioners
could
have
a
motion
to
actually
so
there's
been
one
item
removed
from
the
agenda
and
that
is
item
number
eight
land
acquisition
at
one
one:
zero,
one
third
avenue
south.
So
could
I
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda
with
item
number
eight
removed,
commissioner
ford.
H
I
C
F
B
All
right
that
motion
passes
so
we've
adopted
the
agenda.
Oh
looks
like
commissioner
smiley
is
here.
I
didn't
know
you're
expecting
her
all
right.
So
next
on
the
agenda
is
acceptance
of
the
minutes
of
the
regular
meeting
from
february
10th
2022
commissioners
could
have
a
motion
to
accept
those
minutes.
B
J
C
A
Commissioner
rainville
aye,
commissioner
sweezey
hi,
my
apologies
folks.
I
was
not
clear
either
about
commissioner
smiley.
So
if
you
would
like
to
be
here,
would
you
like
to
cast
about
on
the
minute
sure
hi?
B
Right
that
motion
passes
so
move
on
to
our
consent
agenda.
We
have
ten
items
on
the
consent
agenda
this
evening
and
each
one
has
the
same
action,
which
is
to
say
that
they
are
in
line
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
if
it's
okay
with
everyone,
I'm
going
to
say,
we
hear
all
of
the
presentations
and
then
vote
on
them
all
as
once
at
at
once,
rather
than
each
one
individually.
K
B
G
K
B
G
Yes,
I
will
amend
my
motion
to
be
adopting
the
items
on
the
consent
agenda
to
be
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
with
reiterating
staff
findings.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
commissioner
smiley.
J
L
B
M
M
This
is
located
at
1400,
10th
avenue
south.
In
the
elliott
park,
neighborhood
of
minneapolis
the
site
is
zoned
institutional
office,
residence
3,
it's
located
in
the
downtown
parking
overlay
district
and
also
the
quarter
6
built
form
overlay
district
and
the
site
is
located
on
east
14th
street
between
vacated
elliott,
avenue
and
10th
avenue.
South
the
pictures
on
the
right-hand
side
of
the
screen
show
you
what
is
currently
on
the
block.
M
There
is
the
tj
jones
library
and
then
there
are
two
parking
garages,
one
on
the
east
side
of
the
north,
half
of
the
block
and
one
on
the
west
side.
The
one
on
the
west
side
would
be
demolished,
which
is
this
parking
garage
right
here
and
you
can
see
the
library
in
the
background
and
then
the
building
here
to
the
south
and
also
in
this
picture.
M
So
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
demolish
that
parking
ramp,
that's
located
on
the
west
side
of
the
property
and
construct
a
new
four-story,
28
thousand
square
foot
building
the
building
the
proposed
building
would
be
connected
to
carlson
hall
on
both
the
first
and
second
floors.
M
Exterior
materials
of
the
building.
Sorry
include
cast
concrete
metal
panels
and
glass.
M
The
applicant
is
in
the
process
of
updating
the
campus
master
plan
and
the
campus-wide
travel
demand
management
plan
that
were
done
for
north
central
university
back
in
2019,
and
both
of
those
documents
are
currently
being
updated
and
they
will
need
to
achieve
six
points
worth
of
tdm
strategies.
We
have
met
with
public
works
and
discussed
the
tdm
and
the
tdm
strategies.
M
They
will
be
somewhat
unique
when
they
come
forward,
because
this
is
a
campus-wide
master
plan
and
campus-wide
tdm
plan
that
we're
that
they
are
updating.
So
it
may
be
a
little
bit
different,
but
when
we
get
to
that
step
in
the
process,
we'll
obviously
walk
you
through
the
strategies
that
they're
choosing
I'm
thinking
that
a
lot
of
these
strategies
may
be
more
unique
than
what
we
typically
see
in
a
residential
development
or
an
office
kind
of
development.
M
Colleges
and
universities
are
conditional
uses
in
the
office
residence
district,
so
they
do
need
a
conditional
use.
Permit
the
front
yard
setback
requirement
is
15
feet
that
is
off
of
14th
street.
M
In
the
front
yard,
they
do
have
a
walkway
that
is
wider
than
what
our
permitted
obstructions
allow.
So
they
will
need
a
variance
of
the
front
yard
to
allow
a
14
foot,
walkway
versus
a
12
foot,
walkway
interior
side
and
rear
yard
setback.
Requirements
for
the
site
is
11
feet
walkways
in
interior
side
and
rare
yards
are
limited
to
four
feet
in
width.
M
They
have
wider
walkways
and
staircases
located
in
those
interior
and
rear
yards
and
then
again,
the
connection
to
carlson
hall
will
also
require
variances
carlson
hall,
because
it
is
on
a
separate
property
will
also
need
to
the
the
college
will
need
to
apply
for
a
separate
variance
with
a
separate
address,
given
the
connection
on
that
property.
So
since
this
is
now
coming
into
that
required
yard
of
variance
on
both
properties
for
that
connection
will
be
required.
M
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
elevations
quickly
and
then
I'm
going
to
jump
back.
I'm
sorry!
I
don't
organize
these,
probably
as
well
as
I
should,
when
I
start
so,
these
are
the
elevations
of
the
building.
This
is
the
side
of
the
building
facing
vacated,
elliott
avenue,
and
these
are.
This
is
the
front
of
the
building
facing
14th,
and
then
this
is
the
rear
of
the
building
that
faces
carlson
hall,
and
then
this
is
the
side
of
the
building
that
will
face
the
library
on
the
property.
M
As
you
can
see
in
these
elevations,
they
are
proposing
some
signage
there's
a
wall
sign
here
and
then
two
and
then
a
wall
sign
here.
Both
of
these
signs
are
too
high
and
so
variances
would
be
needed
for
those
site.
Plan
review
is
also
required
because
the
building
is
over
the
20
000
square
feet,
and
then
we
will
be.
M
B
I'm
hearing
a
echo,
I
wonder
if
you
could
maybe
mute
something.
C
F
Want
to
apologize
ahead
of
time,
but
I
have
a
going
away
party
for
chief
eridando,
so
I
will
be
leaving
around
fiveish.
So
if
you
see
when
you
see
me
leave
thank
you.
B
C
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
this
is
tom
lincoln,
with
kimberly
horn.
We
had
a
little
trouble
getting
on
that
call,
so
we've
called
in.
C
N
N
N
I
want
to
thank
the
committee
of
the
whole
for
taking
an
opportunity
to
to
look
at
this
project,
we're
very
excited
at
north
central
to
move
forward
with
this
project
that
takes
opportunity
to
create
space
for
our
students
for
our
educational
experience,
programming
sciences
and
business
we've
already
met
and
had
a
verbal
endorsement
from
councilman
osman
as
well
as
ep,
and
I
board
taking
a
vote
of
approval
to
move
forward
with
this.
N
So
we
look
forward
for
the
opportunity
to
just
move
forward
with
you
find
out
what
kind
of
specific
interests
you
have
and
and
what
ways
we
can
make
this
project
happen
any
questions
you
would
have
to
that
effect.
I'm
happy
to
answer,
but
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
B
E
Sorry,
it
took
me
a
minute
to
unmute
and
get
the
camera
working
there.
Thank
you,
commissioner
olson.
I
may
be
the
only
member
of
the
planning
commission
who
was
here
when
this
came
through
in
2019,
but
I
was
excited
to
see
it
pop
up
on
the
agenda.
E
Again,
I
had
wondered
what
had
happened
to
it
when
I
had
been
when
I
drove
by
the
area
or
was
in
the
area
and
saw
that
I
thought
it
was
a
great
project,
then
I
think
it's
a
great
project
now
I
think
it's
going
to
be
great
for
the
neighborhood
and
great
for
the
university.
It
looks
to
me
substantially
the
same
as
it
did
in
2019,
at
least
for
the
things
that
I'm
interested
in,
and
I
would
urge
my
fellow
commissioners
to
to
kind
of
enthusiastically
get
behind
this
one.
E
I
I
can't
tell
you
how
much
I
think
in
all
my
years
on
the
commission,
this
was
one
of
my
favorite
projects
to
to
study
and
ultimately
look
to
see
built,
and
I
hope
that
you
all
are
going
to
get
a
chance
to
do
it
and,
like
I
said,
I'm
really
happy
to
see
it.
So
thanks.
D
Thank
you.
First
of
all,
I
I
would
also
say
that
it's
a
wonderful
project,
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
area.
I
I
often
visit
elliott
park
and
I
like
to
wander
around
the
university
there
and
removing
the
parking
ramp
will
be
a
vast
improvement.
D
N
M
D
Okay,
so
I
assume
we
can
look
forward
to
that
discussion
in
the
future
when
you
when
they,
when
they
provide
you
with
the
details
and
so
forth.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
we've
seen
various
variances
go
by
on
on
the
sign
height
and
that
question
keeps
occurring
to
me.
If,
presumably,
there
is
some
reason
for
whatever
the
height
limits
are
so
I'll
look
forward
to
it
in
the
future.
Otherwise
I
think
it's
a
great
project.
B
Hillary
just
to
be
clear,
the
variance
on
the
walkway
widths
is
because
the
walkways
are
wider
than
12
feet.
Right.
M
That's
correct
in
the
front
yard:
the
walkway
needs
to
be
reduced
two
feet
to
be
a
permitted
obstruction.
It's
allowed
to
be
twelve
feet
here,
but
only
four
feet
here.
I'm
sorry
eight
feet
and
this
one
is
twenty
and
a
half
feet.
I
believe
so
it
does
need
to.
They
would
need
variances
to
have
wider
walkways
sure.
B
Okay,
I
mean
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
to
have
wider
walkways,
especially
on
a
college
campus,
so
I
don't
see
any
problem
with
that.
Commissioners,
any
other
comments
or
questions.
L
L
That's
a
main
public
entrance
for
the
building,
but
I
see
it
called
out
just
as
broomed
concrete,
and
I
wonder
if
that
could
be
looked
at
to
be
something
more
pervious
if
we're
going
wider,
so
that
we're
allowing
a
little
bit
more
of
that
runoff
to
kind
of
soak
into
support,
as
opposed
to
kind
of
pour
off
into
the
sidewalk,
so
something
for
consideration.
Otherwise,
I
think
it's
pretty
handsome
project.
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
I'm
not
seeing
any.
So
thank
you
to
hillary
and
thank
you
from
the
project
team
for
sharing
your
project
with
us.
B
All
right
up
next
is
item
number
12..
It
is
the
redevelopment
of
the
south
portion
of
the
seven
points
mall
at
3001,
hennepin
avenue
and
staff
is
hillary
dvorak.
M
O
M
M
M
Development
and
there
have
been
many
modifications
in
the
last
17
years
so
just
to
bring
everybody
up
to
speed,
because
I
don't
think
most
of
the
commissioners
or
any
of
the
commissioners
were
with
us
for
these
past
developments
on
the
site,
but
seven
point
small
is
an
existing
planned
union
development
located
on
the
south
east
corner
of
west
lake
street
and
hennepin
avenue.
M
The
site
does
include
the
entire
block
bounded
by
lake
street
and
31st
and
then
hennepin
and
vacated
gerard.
It
also
includes
the
parking
garage
on
the
east
side
of
vacated
gerard
and
then
this
tiny
little
property
right
here,
which
is
1409
west
lake
street,
this
property
here
which
this
information
was
not
in
the
cow
memo.
This
site
was
part
of
the
original
planned
unit
development.
M
M
When
modifications
are
made
to
one
portion
of
a
planned
unit
development,
the
entire
site,
then,
is
analyzed
for
zoning
code.
Compliance
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
the
approvals,
but
you
can
see
starting
back
in
20.
2005.
Excuse
me
that
there
have
been
a
series
of
land
use
approvals
for
this
project.
Some
of
these
project
applications
have
come
to
fruition
and
others
have
not,
for
various
reasons.
M
And
if
anyone
wants
to
have
any
discussion
about
any
of
those,
we
can
go
into
more
detail,
but
it
is
laid
out
in
the
in
the
memo
planned
union
developments
require
conditional
use
permits
and,
in
addition
to
that,
non-residential
uses
that
require
a
conditional
use.
Permit
in
a
pud
also
have
to
apply
for
those.
M
Signs
that
require
conditional
use
permit
in
the
zoning
district
in
which
the
pet
is
located
is
not
required
to
submit
that
separate,
conditional
use
permit
but
is
considered
as
part
of
the
findings
and
review
of
the
planned
unit
development,
and
this
is
important
to
notice.
The
conditional
use
permits
that
have
been
approved
for
this
development
are
still
valid.
M
M
Vacated
gerard
avenue
south
was
envisioned
to
be
a
pedestrian
thoroughfare
that
connected
west
31st
street
up
to
the
midtown
greenway,
and
when
seven
points
was
redeveloped
back
in
2006,
they
did
make
changes
to
vacated
gerard
and
since
that
time,
gerard
between
lagoon
and
lake
state
has
been
redeveloped
and
then
on
the
mosaic
site
leading
into
the
art
park
with
the
bridge,
then
that
connects
down
it
was
known
in
small
area
plans
back
in
the
early
2000s
as
the
gerard
meander.
M
Moving
away
from
that
term,
however,
we
still
have
a
vacated
portion
of
a
street.
There
is
a
20-foot
fire
lane
that
goes
down
vacated
gerard
and
just
for
everyone
on
the
call.
This
is
vacated
gerard,
and
so
they
are
looking
to
make
modifications
to
this
area
on
the
site
as
part
of
this
project,
and
I
do
want
to
have
a
conversation
with
all
of
you
about
that
specifically
a
little
bit
later,
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
some
images.
M
This,
these
images
show
you
what
portion
of
the
existing
wall
will
come
down.
I
did
detail
this
out
in
the
in
the
report
the
main
entrance
off
of
hennepin
avenue
from
there
south
to
the
corner,
so
that
includes
the
kitchen
window,
space,
the
famous
dave
space
and
then
the
cb2
store
all
of
those
buildings.
If
you
will
will
be
coming
down
to
make
room
for
the
proposed
development.
M
M
M
M
The
entrance
is
to
the
grocery
store.
There's
one
entrance
located
here
on
the
corner
of
hennepin
and
31st,
and
then
there's
an
entrance
here
that
provides
access
from
the
existing
parking
garage
which
will
which
is
used
for
overflow
parking
that
will
also
connect.
M
Then
along
hennepin
avenue
there
is
a
residential
lobby
and
a
separate
restaurant
space
that
has
its
own
entrance,
also
to
hennepin
avenue
access
into
the
lower
level.
So
here's
the
lower
level
parking
garage
access
to
the
lower
level
is
up
here
on
the
corner
of
vacated,
gerard
and
31st,
and
these
parking
spaces
are
all
located
below
ground
and
they're
dedicated
for
the
grocery
store.
M
On
the
so
this
is
the
second
floor
and
then,
as
you
go
up,
three
through
seven
include
dwelling
units
and
then
also
amenity
spaces
for
the
residents
of
the
building.
M
The
applicant
is
going
to
be
making
streetscape
improvements
along
hennepin
avenue,
specifically
in
the
area
from
I
would
say,
midpoint
here,
down
to
the
new
the
new
portion
of
the
development,
adding
outdoor
seating
and
then
different
landscape
treatments
along
the
street.
M
The
image
on
the
top
is
the
hennepin
avenue
elevation
and
the
image
on
the
bottom
is
the
31st
street
elevation
and
then
I'll
just
show
you
the
other
two
sides,
and
then
the
north
elevation
is
or
the
top
elevation
is
the
north
elevation
of
the
building.
That
is
what
you
will
see
above
the
existing
seven
points,
mall
and
then
the
elevation
on
the
bottom
shows
the
east
elevation
of
the
building,
and
so
you
can
see
the
loading
functions
and
whatnot
in
that
space.
M
Here
are
some
images
of
what
this
new
edition
would
look
like.
So
this
from
this
point
over
this
is
all
new.
This
is
an
existing
edge
of
the
building
that
will
remain,
and
so
just
to
go
through
some
of
the
different
images
that
have
been
provided
in
the
packets-
and
I
think
my
adobe
just
froze
all
right.
So
here's
that
corner
image
and
here's
just
some
different
aerial
views
of
the
building.
M
Here
you
can
see
it's
discussed
in
the
memo.
This
is
the
wall
that
leads
to
the
underground
parking
garage
and
to
bring
interest
to
this
building.
They
are
proposing
a
mural
in
this
space
of
the
of
the
building,
and
I
will
be
getting
more
information
about
that
mural
as
the
project
progresses.
M
A
travel
demand
management
plan
is
required
for
the
development
they
need
to
achieve
six
points
worth
of
tdm
strategies.
We
have
met
with
public
works.
They
are
starting
to
draft
the
tdm
p,
so
there
will
be
more
information
coming
on
that
planned
unit.
Developments
and
shopping
centers
are
conditional
uses
in
the
c3a
community
activity
center
zoning
district.
M
The
proposed
changes
to
the
site
and
the
shopping
center
itself
will
require
amendments
to
those
previously
approved
conditional
use
permits,
I'm
in
the
pedestrian
oriented
overlay
district,
which
this
site
is
located,
the
maximum
building
setback
from
a
front
or
corner
side
property
line
is
eight
feet.
There
are
portions
of
the
building
that
are
located
more
than
eight
feet
and
so
variances,
a
variance
of
the
po
standards
would
be
required.
M
The
grocery
store
is
approximately
55
000
square
feet.
Commercial
retail
uses,
including
grocery
stores,
are
limited
to
in
this
case
they
would
be
allowed
up
to
20
000,
because
the
building
is
up
to
the
street.
It's
two
stories
and
the
building
itself
is
over
a
hundred
thousand
square
feet
again.
That
grocery
store
is
over
fifty
five
thousand,
so
they
do
need
a
variance
to
increase
the
size
of
a
retail
sales
and
service
use.
M
This
specific
variance
was
granted
back
in
2008
for
a
number
of
spaces
within
the
mall
I
mean
so
that
we'll
need
to
reevaluate
those
if
interior
changes
are
being
made
into
the
size
of
those
new
spaces
being
created.
So
more
information
will
have
to
be
presented
for
that
again,
the
zoning
requires
dwelling
units
and
efficiency
units
to
be
of
a
certain
size.
M
I'm
just
putting
this
in
there
as
a
note
to
the
applicant
that,
if
units
are
less
than
our
minimum
required,
variances
will
be
needed
there
will
be,
or
there
are
a
total
of
731
parking
spaces
in
the
existing
parking
garage.
The
proposed
development
would
add
an
additional
231
spaces
for
a
total
of
962
spaces.
M
M
Loading
spaces
are
required
for
the
development.
The
housing
requires
two
small
or
one
large
space,
and
the
grocery
store
requires
two
large
spaces
they're
proposing
to
have,
and
I'm
sorry,
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
a
plan.
They're
proposing
two
large
loading
spaces
in
the
grocery
store
area
of
the
building
and
then
in
what
in
vacated
gerard.
They
are
proposing
to
have
a
residential
loading
space
here
near
the
skyway
connection,
as
this
area
right
here
is
the
resident
move
in
so
for
proximity.
It
makes
sense.
M
M
Do
we
still
want
that
pedestrian
thoroughfare
feel
with
landscape
and
lighting
and
whatnot,
and
and
if
it's
both,
how
do
we
make
that
all
work,
because
it
clearly
is
becoming
more
of
a
service
drive
than
a
fire
lane
with
pedestrian
sidewalks
on
each
side?
So
that's
definitely
something
that
we
want
to
discuss
in
2008
and
then
in
2010.
M
Four
land
use
applications
that
would
be
required
to
are
amending
the
previously
approved
conditional
use
permits
one
for
the
planned
unit,
development
as
a
whole.
Second,
for
the
shopping
center,
we
know
that
there's
a
variance
needed
for
the
size
of
the
grocery
store,
possibly
other
spaces
within
the
mall.
M
If
new
spaces
over
that
20
000
are
being
created
and
then
site
plan
review,
and
then,
since
this
is
a
planned
unit,
development,
I'm
looking
at
what
zoning
code
requirements
need
alternatives
and
the
ones
that
have
been
identified
thus
far
are
building
placement,
maximum
parking,
bicycle
standards
and
then
minimum
loading
and
based
on
those.
We
would
say
that
20
points
worth
of
amenities
are
needed.
But
again
once
plans
have
been
more
developed
and
we
I
have
more
time
to
spend
with
them.
Other
applications
and
other
amenity
points
for
the
pud
be
required.
M
So,
just
to
conclude,
on
my
end,
the
one
thing
that
we
noted
in
the
in
the
memo
is
that
we
want
to
talk
about
the
pes.
How
could
the
pedestrian
experience
long
vacated
gerard
be
enhanced,
even
if
it
is
more
utilitarian
in
use,
and
so
just
wanting
to
get
thoughts
and
ideas
and
have
a
conversation
about
that
tonight?
B
All
right,
maybe
we
could
hear
from
the
development
team.
O
Actually,
I
think
I'm
fine.
For
now.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
thumbs
to
say
good
evening.
I'm
john
furrier
companies
also
on
the
call
is
sam
ankin
with
north
pond.
Cody
dietrich
is
with
dorn
development.
Ben
lindau
is
my
lead
designer
with
doran
architecture
and
also
our
civil
engineer.
Mitchell
kukis
from
kimberly
horn
is
on
the
call,
so
hillary
did
a
great
job
of
providing
a
project
overview,
but
I
wanted
to
just
say
a
couple
of
additional
things
about
the
design.
First
off
we're
extremely
excited
to
be
part
of
this
project.
O
O
O
The
masonry
base
of
the
mixed
use
edition
draws
inspiration
from
the
historic
seven
points,
building
and
also
the
historic
brownstones
of
the
neighborhood,
the
multi-family
residences
above
step
back,
and
this
helps
reduce
the
mass
of
the
building
at
the
street
level.
It
has
contrasting
materials
of
fiber
cement,
as,
as
hillary
said,
and
metal
panel
to
separately
define
the
residential
portion
of
the
building.
O
B
Thank
you
we'll
start
with
commissioner
alpert.
H
Thank
you
so
much
so
I'm
I'm
very
excited
to
see
this
amount
of
housing
here.
You
know
264
dwelling
units,
that's
really
exciting.
H
I
want
to,
I
know,
you're
doing
the
tdm
plan
and
I
just
want
to
throw
out
a
strategy
that
I
think
not
many
people
know
about,
and
I
want
to
keep
talking
about
it
so
that
it
happens
more
frequently
and
that
is
the
residential
transit
pass
program
which
costs
14
per
month
per
unit
and
it's
a
great
deal
in
comparison
with
regular
transit
pass,
which
costs
somewhere
between
80
to
120
a
month.
This
is
in
a
transit,
10
built
form
neighborhood.
So
you
know
a
lot
of
transit
here.
I
think
it
has
potential.
H
So
that's
something
I
want
to
just
bring
up
to
the
comment
that
I
have,
but
I
do.
I
do
have
a
few
questions,
one.
I
you
know
parking.
It
goes
over
the
maximum
amount
allowed
at
this
site,
and
I
I
guess
I'm
wondering
what
how
much
will
patrons
need
to
pay
to
park
at
the
grocery
store?
What
will
it
cost
them
to
park?
Q
It's
this
is
sam
ankin.
Some
of
those
details
will
be
ironed
out,
but
our
our
anticipation
is
that
if
you're
shopping
at
the
grocery
store,
it's
free.
Q
H
Okay,
thanks
for
that,
because
you
know
next
door,
I
guess
I'm
wondering
how
that
compares
with
the
price
to
park
at
the
adjacent.
I
believe
731
spaced
parking
ramp,
how
that
cost
compares
yeah.
Q
Parking
on
the
site,
yeah
there's
different
yeah
we
can
get
all
we
can
go
back
and
get
all
the
details
it's
different,
depending
on
if
you're
visiting
some
of
the
tenants
versus
short-term
parking
or
long-term
parking.
So
again,
if
you're
visiting
la
fitness
that
is
also
complimentary
parking.
Okay,.
C
Q
There's
a
there's,
a
strata
of
different
situations
and
different
validations,
and
you
know.
Q
Hourly
rates
for
the
garage
and
monthly
rates.
H
Great
thanks,
I'm
wondering
how
many
shoppers
you
anticipate
at
one
time
to
be
in
the
store
more
than
115.
Q
H
Q
We
finalize
those
details
and
how
it
works.
You
know
we'll.
Definitely
you
know
come
back
with
that
and
hopefully,
as
we
proceed,
we'll,
hopefully
have
more
commitments,
hopefully
from
a
grocer.
At
the
same
time,
based
on
residential
above
and
all
the
other
density
in
the
area,
we
we,
you
know,
hope
with
whether
it's
biking
or
pedestrian
activity.
You
know
people,
obviously
bike,
walk,
use,
different
means
of
transportation
bus.
You
know,
as
you
talked
about
with
the
new.
H
Great
great
thanks,
I
guess
that's
all
of
I
mean
I
think
other
people
might
have
comments
on
the
gerard
meander
that
they
want
to
bring
up.
H
But
I
and
just
a
comment
why
I'm
asking
about
the
parking
you
know,
because
the
application
does
exceed
the
maximum,
and
you
know
there
there
are
going
to
be
at
least
hopefully
264
people
who
are
living
above
this
grocery
store,
and
I
would
hope
that
we
could
make
good
use
of
our
existing
parking
infrastructure
on
site
you
know
and
that
we
would
have
it's
it's
uptown,
it's
a
pretty
dense
area
that
we
would
have
a
great
number
of
people
visiting
this
retail
establishment
on
foot
or
on
bike,
and
so
I
guess,
I'm
concerned
with
exceeding
the
maximum
amount
of
parking
at
this
site.
H
So,
like
that's,
why
I
ask,
and
especially
not
charging
for
parking
if
other
what
the
fact
free
has
this
great
allure
to
people
I
know
so
with
free
parking.
So
that's
why
I
bring
it
up.
So
thank
you.
I'll!
Stop
pause
there
for
now.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
alper
commissioner
mcguire.
G
Thanks,
I
don't
have
a
ton
of
comments.
I
think
the
project
generally
looks
pretty
good.
My
main
concern
was
I'm.
Actually
the
wall
along
west
31st,
where
that
mural
was
planned
to
be
seems,
like
a
large
stretch
of
I
mean
it's
like
half
a
block,
long
building
that
didn't
have
any
articulation,
so
I
know
we
were
talking
about
doing
a
mural
there,
so
I
really
would
like
to
see
that
continue
throughout
the
project.
If
the
parking
entrance
has
to
be
there,
that
parking
entrance
seems
really
close
to
that
pedestrian
area.
G
So
that
would
not
be
my
preference
if
it
could
get
moved
backwards
like
more
internal
into
the
alley.
I
think
that
would
be
better.
G
I
don't
know
if
that's
possible
with
alignments
and
everything,
so
if
it's
not
possible,
just
try
to
make
it
as
good
as
possible.
Besides
that
yeah
I'm
generally
supportive
of
the
project
and
that's.
B
All
right,
commissioner
mcguire
is
frozen,
but
I
think
she
was
done
so,
let's
go
to
commissioner
ford.
D
Thank
you,
hillary.
I'm,
I'm
actually
old
enough
to
have
known
all
the
iterations
of
this
project
and
and
lived
close
by
it
for
quite
a
while,
and
it
was
in
fact
in
my
war
that
for
a
while,
but
so
I
I
am
familiar
with
it
the,
but
I
have
a
I
guess.
I
share
the
concern
about
whether
or
not
the
vacated
gerard
is
ever
going
to
be
a
real
pedestrian
parkway.
D
Looking
at
the
plane,
there's
something
called
a
trash
compactor
area.
D
There's
two
loading
docks
for,
I
assume
for
the
grocery
store
and
then
there's
three
trash
receptacles
are
those
trash
receptacles
serving
the
apartments
or
and
are
those
the
only
ones
serving
the
apartments,
because
I
live
in
a
building
with
300
units
and
we
have
about,
I
think,
about
12
trash
compactors
or
12
trash
receptacles
and
they're,
always
full
or
they
they
get
full
every
week.
D
R
To
respond
quick
on
the
trash,
this
is
cody
with
the
development
team.
The
trash
and
the
residential
portion
of
the
building
will
be
housed
in
the
level
two
garage
and
it'll
be
actually
wheeled
down
the
ramp
and
placed
near
those
other
trash
receptacles
for
pickup
on
pickup
day.
Those
trash
receptacles
are
for
the
grocer
itself
and
are
tied
into
the
trash
compactor
to
minimize
how
much
trash
area
they
need.
D
Okay,
I
appreciate
that,
but
then
you
know
the
the
wheeling
down
of
the
the
apartment
trash
receptacles.
D
I
live
in
loring
park
now
and
I
you
know,
I
see
that
occurring
every
day
out
my
window
with
trucks
blocking
the
sidewalks
as
they
wheel
out
the
garbage
trucks
blocking
sidewalks
or
extended
out
into
the
street
as
they
try
to
do
this.
So
I
I
you
know,
I
don't
have
a
solution
for
you.
D
I
just
think
that
I
it
it
looks
like
it's
be
very
difficult
to
retain
any
kind
of
pedestrian,
any
kind
of
decent
pedestrian
activity
along
that
that
it's
gonna,
be,
I
think,
become
an
alley
and
be
an
alley.
But
I
look
forward
to
you
what
you
can
do
with
it.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
ford
commissioners,
any
other
comments
or
discussion.
L
Thank
you,
commissioner.
I
I
think
I
echo
commissioner
ford's
concern
about
sort
of
vitality
that
I
think
you
know.
I
think
it's
going
to
work
really
well
as
a
service.
That's
probably
where
that
should
go.
I
think
we
need
to
maybe
reassess.
Maybe
it's
just
fine
like
that,
or
maybe
it's
sort
of
halfway,
I
think,
to
kind
of
believe
it's
going
to
be
something
else.
L
C
L
One
question
I
had
was
the
orientation
of
the
housing
and
I'm
sure
the
development
team
will
study
this,
but
the
the
kind
of
courtyard
you
do
have
a
wonderful
deuce
south
opportunity
to
face
that
courtyard
to
the
south
to
let
light
fill
it
for
most
of
the
day,
as
opposed
to
you've
got
a
turn
now
opening
to
hennepin,
and
I
think
that
one
wall
I
know
you'll,
do
some
sun
studies
but
kind
of
make
sure
that
that
courtyard,
I
know
you're
opening
it
to
hennepin,
but
I
think,
as
a
vital
space
that
really
is
filled
with
with
light
heavy
oriented
south
might
might
be
better.
L
L
I
think
also
the
the
comment
about
the
mural.
You
know
I
think
murals
can
be
fun,
but
I
think
there's
actually
a
potential
really
interesting
opportunity,
given
the
depths
how
the
ramps
were
to
make
that
something
more
than
just
surface
painted
that
it's
porous,
that
we
see
that
activity
that
can
be
sort
of
part
of
that
street
in
a
really
dynamic
way.
That
could
be
a
lot
of
fun
and
not
just
a
a
painted
wall
surface,
and
I
I
guess.
L
Lastly,
I
think
there's
there's
a
lot
going
on
on
those
upper
apartments,
materials,
changing
ins
and
outs
that
I
did
appreciate
the
understanding
of
base
and
and
top,
but
maybe
maybe
not
so
many
material
changes.
I
do
like
the
sort
of
registration
of
the
context,
but
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
kind
of
keep
changing,
colors
and
and
little
parapets
and
things
or
actually
adding
to
the
project.
L
I
think
maybe
there's
a
bit
of
editing
that
could
happen
and
it
could
be
a
little
bit
stronger,
but
I
think
getting
the
units.
There
is
great.
I
think
that
activation
on
the
corner
is
going
to
be
terrific.
I
think
sort
of
revitalizing
that
mall
entrance
on
hennepin.
You
know
it's
been
pretty
tough
to
watch
over
the
last
couple
years,
as
that
has
really
sort
of
dropped
down.
So
I
look
forward
to
this.
I
think
it's
a
really
wonderful
opportunity
and
know
the
development
team
will
will
take
that
seriously.
So,
thanks.
B
B
S
Okay,
great
so
the
first
project
that
we're
going
to
look
at
for
me
is
a
addition
to
the
abbot
northwestern
hospital
campus
in
the
midtown
phillips
neighborhood
of
minneapolis
folks,
who
have
been
on
the
commission
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
We'll
remember
that
we've
seen
actually
several
projects
implemented
and
proposed
on
the
abbott
northwestern
hospital
campus
and
neighboring
a
line
of
properties
that
are
a
part
of
an
ongoing
master
plan
for
the
atlanta
campus.
S
Most
recently.
This
is
an
ariel
showing
the
campus.
In
its
context,
we
approved
a
new
central
utility
plant
for
the
campus
located
at
26th
and
chicago
on
the
northwestern
corner
of
the
site
and
then
a
new
transportation
hub
and
parking
garage
on
the
south
end
of
the
site
adjacent
to
the
greenway
along
chicago
there.
S
So
as
a
part
of
that
ongoing
development
and
following
from
the
addition
of
that
new
parking
facility
along
28th
in
chicago,
the
hospital
is
proposing
to
remove
an
existing
parking
ramp
here
on
the
east
side
of
the
campus
adjacent
to
anderson
school.
In
order
to
facilitate
the
implementation
of
a
new
hospital
care
pavilion
that
will
provide
patient
care
services
and
other
hospital
amenities
space
on
the
campus,
this
is
an
aerial
put
together
by
the
applicant
showing
the
location
of
that
edition
and
again,
the
removal
of
that
existing
parking
ramp
on
the
site.
S
S
Here
at
the
intersection
of
27th,
there
is
a
vehicle
drop-off
lane,
but
no
connection
to
the
internal
circulation
in
the
hospital,
so
they're
proposing
a
new
access
point
at
27th
there,
a
new
intersection
with
their
internal
vehicle
circulation
and
then,
additionally,
a
new
connection
point
at
what's
called
anderson
lane
on
the
interior
of
the
campus
out
to
10th
avenue
on
the
east
side
of
the
campus,
so
that
will
significantly
add
to
the
porosity
of
the
campus
for
for
all
users
and
would
change
how
vehicles
in
particular,
move
in
and
through
the
site
and
then
inter
intersect
and
interact
with
this
new
proposed
edition.
S
These
are
some
floor
plans
showing
just
the
sort
of
internal
organization
of
the
space,
the
main
focus
and
main
entry
and
lobby
space.
Would
be
on
the
internal
vehicle
turnaround
here,
that's
similar
to
how
the
campus
functions
today,
I
believe,
and
then
at
the
ground
floor
along
10th
avenue
would
be
the
entrance
to
the
emergency
department
and
then
some
surface
parking
for
associated
adjacent
uses.
S
The
applicant
is
undergoing
an
environmental
assessment
worksheet
process
through
the
city
council,
so
that
will
need
to
be
concluded
prior
to
pursuing
any
formal
land
use
approvals
and
as
a
part
of
that,
they
would
be
required
to
complete
a
traffic
study
and
major
travel
demand
management
plan.
So
those
things
are
going
to
be
worked
out
before
any
applications
come
before
you
for
the
actual
project
itself.
S
S
They
are
proposing
a
rooftop
amenity
space,
a
long
tenth
there
on
top
of
that
portion
of
the
building.
So
as
far
as
application
goes,
there
are
a
couple
of
different
things
that
we
wanted
to
discuss
tonight.
So
one
item
concerns
the
campus
as
a
whole
and
I'm
gonna
call
up
the
2040
plan
here
just
for
context
with
this
discussion.
S
So
the
abbott
northwestern
hospital
campus
itself
is
about
two
standard
city
blocks
and
it's
currently
guided
for
the
public
office
and
institutional
land
use
category
which
is
consistent
with
the
hospital
use,
and
then
it's
also
guided
for
the
corridor.
6
built
form
overlay
district
and
that
district
obviously
has
a
maximum
height
limit
of
six
stories,
with
the
ability
to
increase
that
through
premiums.
S
And
so
what
we're
proposing
is
that
the
applicant
seek
a
comprehensive
plan,
amendment
to
re-guide
the
site
to
the
transit
10
district,
the
transit
10
built
form
overlay
district,
which
is
consistent
with
properties
immediately
to
the
south,
including
the
transportation
hub
that
was
recently
approved,
as
well
as
the
midtown
exchange,
complex
and
properties
along
the
south
side
of
the
greenway.
S
So
that's
one
question
is
the
appropriateness
and
compatibility
of
that
transit
10
built
form
overlay
district
with
the
campus
as
a
whole
and
with
the
comprehensive
plan
that
application
would
would
come
to
you
as
a
comprehensive
plan
amendment
prior
to
any
land
use
approvals
as
well.
So
you
would
be
evaluating
that
question
before
you
actually
evaluated
this
proposal.
S
So
that's
one
question
and
then
beyond
that
and
when
the
project
itself
is
ready
to
move
forward
towards
entitlement,
the
applications
that
we
would
be
required
would
be
a
rezoning
to
add
the
transit
10
built
form
overlay
district
and
then
the
applicant
is
likely
to
pursue
a
planned
unit
development
for
the
entire
hospital
campus.
S
So
we
would
be
proposing
to
consolidate
those
seven
parcels
into
basically
one
large
parcel
and
then
evaluate
the
project
in
relationship
to
the
site
as
a
whole.
That
would
give
us
some
significant
flexibility
in
terms
of
the
existing
zoning,
which
is
or
zoning
and
has
some
yard
requirements
which
are
not
consistent
with
the
existing
character
of
the
site,
and
then
it
would
allow
the
applicant
to
implement
amenities
to
to
seek
exceptions
to
those
zoning
requirements.
S
So
the
other
question
that
I
didn't
want
to
draw
the
commission's
attention
to
concerns
the
site
plan
review
application.
So,
in
general
the
the
proposal
is
well
aligned,
I
think,
with
city
policy
and
land
use
policy
with
regard
to
particularly
the
site
plan
review
requirements,
the
one
exception,
and
this
would
require
alternative
compliance
under
the
site
plan
review
application.
Is
this
10th
avenue
frontage
which,
under
the
current
proposal,
is
covered
surface
parking
per
site
plan
review
standards?
S
Any
above
grade
parking
structure
is
required
to
provide
at
least
70
active
uses
along
a
street
facing
elevation,
so
this
elevation
would
not
meet
with
the
ground
floor,
active
use,
requirements
in
that
location.
So
looking
for
feedback
on
that
issue
and
then
general
feedback
on
the
design
and
again
that
question
regarding
the
comprehensive
plan,
amendment
application,
so
I
will
pause
there.
S
I
know
that
I'm
the
applicant
team
is
on
the
call,
and
I
guess
I
will
ask
if
they
have
another
presentation
that
they
wanted
to
share
or
if
we
want
to
just
use
the
presentation
that
I
have
open
but
I'll
I'll
take
direction
from
them
in
that
regard,
and
I
can
take
questions
from
the
commission.
P
Okay,
great
hi,
everybody,
I'm
tony
lacroix
lou
and
I'm
the
vice
president
of
facilities,
planning
for
alliant
health,
and
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here,
beginning
to
discuss
this
latest
phase
and
our
in
our
transformation
of
our
campus,
to
be
able
to
provide
quantitative
care.
Quantitative
cure,
isn't
a
term
that
a
lot
of
people
know
it's
a
kind
of
classification
of
hospital
care
at
the
highest
level,
and
we've
been
working
for
several
years
to
make
sure
that
our
campus
is
ready
to
provide
quantitative
care
well
into
the
future.
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
P
I
always
just
like
to
stop
and
remind
people
that
we've
been
essentially
on
the
same
block
since
1882,
with
our
first
hospital
being
that
picture
right
there,
large
urban
campus,
as
peter
just
said,
we
consistently
ranked
number
one
in
the
twin
cities
number
two
in
the
state,
because
we
we
share
the
state
with
mayo
and
that's
hard,
so
being
number
two
is
kind
of
winning
in
minnesota,
but
that
diagram
on
the
side
shows
we
have
a
pretty
large
draw
area
that
represents
the
biggest
draw
of
our
patients
from
all
over
the
state.
P
I
would
say
it's
a
lot
more
than
a
parking
structure
in
that
it's
also
the
home
of
our
bike
center,
which
which
has
accommodations
for
200
bike
commuters,
we're
also
working
with
the
freewheel,
the
freewell
ownership,
to
bring
the
freewheel
bike
center
back
to
the
greenway
and
that
building
has
a
solar
array
on
the
on
the
ceiling
that
will
be
a
community
solar
car
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
really
great
things
for
those
two
projects.
P
But,
most
importantly,
those
two
projects
enable
us
to
tear
down
that
large
parking
ramp
right
in
the
middle
of
our
campus,
as
peter
said,
which
is
our,
which
is
then
the
building
site
for
our
new
pavilion,
and
this
project
is
a
really
important
one
in
that
it
allows
us
to
modernize
our
operating
rooms
and
move
a
lot
of
the
care.
That's
in
older
parts
of
our
building
that
just
aren't
able
to
keep
up
with
modern
care
needs
into
a
new
building.
T
The
building
materials
are
also
intended
to
relate
to
the
new
heart
pavilion
and
to
be
complementary
to
the
colors
and
textures
of
the
immediate
neighborhood.
You
know
we
mentioned
we
did
selective
demolition
and
we're
demolishing
the
parking
deck.
This
really
has
allowed
us
to
transform
the
site
to
improve
wayfinding
and
reduce
unnecessary
traffic
from
the
neighborhood
by
cleaning
up
vehicular
circulations
and
providing
more
points
of
access
to
the
campus
for
all
those
modes
of
transportation.
T
We
just
mentioned
vehicular
self-directed,
public
transportation
and
pedestrian
peter
mentioned
we
did
the
existing
main
drive
off
28th
streets,
maintained
and
enhanced
to
create
more
of
a
direct
access
to
the
new
main
entry.
The
entry
drives
off
10th
and
avenue
in
anderson,
as
well
as
from
chicago
avenue
that
will
align
the
one
on
chicago
aligns
with
27th
street.
They
provide
improved
access
and
they're
really
going
to
make
the
facility
and
the
campus
more
welcoming
and
accessible
on
the
next
slide.
We're
just
going
to
show
you
a
couple
of
views
more
expanded.
T
This
is
the
entry
view
from
the
28th
street
entry
with
a
view
of
the
tower
and
the
main
entry
along
with
the
skywalk
from
the
public
parking.
The
internet
internal
founders,
mall,
is
serving
as
a
landscape,
frontispiece
and
the
massing
internal
functions,
activate
the
space
and
reinforce
it
as
a
great
outdoor
space
for
public
visitors,
families
and
staff.
T
On
the
next
slide,
the
10th
avenue
and
anderson
entry
provide
a
new,
immediate
and
clear
access
to
the
existing
emergency
department
and
second
access
road
to
the
main
entry.
As
you
know,
in
the
community,
the
emergency
department
will
be
one
of
our
primary
connections
to
the
community
itself.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
have
a
welcoming
and
obvious
front
door
on
the
next
slide.
As
you
move
the
point
of
view
to
the
street
level.
T
You'll
see
the
profile
of
the
of
the
building
along
10th,
we've
activated
the
street
by
providing
streetscaping
that
screens
the
emergency
department
parking
through
architectural
detailing
and
landscaping
to
create.
In
essence,
these
mini
vest
pocket
garden
spaces
along
10th
avenue,
which
will
be
just
great
places
to
sit
for
a
moment
and
relax.
T
The
street
edge
is
further
activated
on
levels
three
and
four
through
the
introduction
of,
through
the
internal
planning,
high
traffic
staff
corridors
through
the
interventional
suites,
to
provide
staff
with
views
of
the
exterior
and
look
at
the
action.
That's
going
on
on
10th
street.
The
two-story
parking
area
below
is
transformed
into
a
canvas.
B
Commissioners
comments
questions
discussion,
commissioner
alper.
H
Thank
you
so
much.
I
would
just
like
to
say
thank
you
alaina
and
abbott
northwestern
for
your
commitment
to
the
neighborhood
and
for
sharing
those
the
design
concepts.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I'm
the
minneapolis
park
board
representative
to
the
planning
commission-
and
this
is
this-
is
my
area
which
goes
from
35w
to
the
river
and
cedar
riverside
down
to
36th
street
that
new
park.
I
saw
in
your
rendering
supersite
is
right
nearby,
and
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
I
know.
H
Alaina
is
doing
with
bicycles
for
kids,
which
brings
me
to
another
point:
10th
avenue
south.
It
is
a
proposed
bike
facility.
That's
been
identified
in
the
by
spike
master
plan.
It's
right
next
to
stewart
park.
Anderson
school
minneapolis
park
board
serves
a
lot
of
the
same
youth
as
that
attend
anderson,
a
lot
of
kids
bike
on
the
greenway
and
then
down
10th
to
the
school,
and
so
I
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention
that
part
of
the
transportation
action
plan,
which
of
course
comes
out
of
the
minneapolis
comprehensive
plan.
H
So
I
guess
my
hope
in
the
design-
and
this
doesn't
really
get
to
any
of
your
questions.
Peter
is
just
that
that
maybe
I'm
wondering
what
options
exist
for
potentially
eliminating
any
vehicle,
curb
cuts
onto
10th
avenue
and
part
of
why
I
bring
this
up
too,
is
that
the
bridge
the
10th
avenue
bridge
over
the
greenway
has
been
closed
to
vehicle
traffic.
H
P
Yeah
it's!
This
is
tony,
it's
it's
a
great
question
and
I
have
seen
that
project
proposed
before
and
you
know
we'll
take
it
into
consideration.
It's
a
you
know
it's
an
important
route
for
our
our
ambulance,
traffic
to
our
emergency
department
and
incoming
patients.
So
it's
a
really
important
thoroughfare
that
we'll
have
to
consider
carefully,
but
I
totally
appreciate
your
views
on
it
and
I
know
you've
had
a
lot
of
really
great
influence
on
the
the
biking
community
in
this
part
of
town.
So
it's
so
much
appreciated.
T
Yeah
and
I
think
tony,
I
would
just
say
that
we
have
aligned
the
entrance
to
the
campus
with
anderson
to
create
more
of
a
controlled
intersection,
and
then
we
have
also
now
separated
the
the
only
curb
cut
that
would
be
there
as
a
true
curb
cut
versus
an
intersection
would
be
that
ambulance
drive.
That
tony
just
mentioned.
T
L
Hey
thanks
a
lot
kurt
for
your
presentation.
I
I
I
do
think.
I
really
appreciate
the
opening
up
of
that
block
and
and
comments
around
porosity,
and
I
hope
that
was
you
focus
the
pedestrian
experience
a
lot
of
times
those
frontal
hospitals
a
lot
going
on
there,
cars
coming
and
going
it's
a
challenge
to
do
that.
L
But
it
is
such
an
interesting
neighborhood
connector
that
if
you
know
focusing
on
lighting
textures
materials
that
pedestrian
scale,
I
think
could
be
a
delightful
sort
of
reintroduction
of
the
hospital
back
into
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
So
I
I
think
I
really
applaud
that.
I
think
there's
a
wonderful
opportunity
to
make
it
even
more
integral
than
it
already
is.
L
I
think
the
move
to
consolidation
for
a
single
pud
makes
a
ton
of
sense
interesting
that
it
hasn't
happened
yet,
but
I
think
that'll
be
really
important
for
the
hospital
moving
forward
and
I
I
think
you
know
the
the
issue
of
the
activation
with
the
parking
use.
L
I
I
think,
there's
lots
of
ways
to
activate
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
be
a
storefront,
and
I
appreciate
the
kind
of
two-story
scale
and
taking
an
art
piece
that
we
would
traditionally
understand
as
a
wall
or
a
mural
and
and
putting
that
on
the
seeing
ceiling.
I
think
shirley
ryan's
a
terrific
example,
an
incredibly
successful
activation
of
that
and
something
I
expected,
I
think,
that'll
be
a
real
contributor
and
would
be
something
I
could
really
support.
That
would
check
the
box
for
activation
along
there.
L
I
think
too,
I
appreciate
the
you
know:
we're
adding
lots
of
buildings
there.
There
are
lots
of
roofs
and
and
where
we
can,
I'm
taking
really
important
positions
around
rainwater
and
how
we
can
both
harvest
that
use
it
and
tell
the
story
about
that
in
a
very
dense
area.
So
thank
you
for
continuing
to
look
at
that
and
to
be
good
stewards
there.
So
that's
it!
Thank
you.
P
You
know
one
of
the
pieces
of
feedback
we've
continuously
gotten
from
our
community
is
that
they
see
us
as
sort
of
a
concrete
canyon
where
all
the
everybody's
on
the
inside
and
they're
on
the
outside.
So
a
lot
of
this
design
was
opening
that
up
to
our
community
and
reestablishing
those
connections
that
were
cut
off
a
long
time
ago
and
need
to
come
back.
L
Yeah,
I
think
it's
great,
you
know
I
I
took
my
kids
to
the
wassi
pool
when
they
were
growing
up
and
it
was
this
wonderful
thing
you
sort
of
had
to
discover,
but
it
was
this
little
jewel
inside
that
campus.
So
I
really
look
forward
to
sort
of
turning
some
of
that
inside
out
and
taking
some
of
those
experiences
back
to
the
neighborhoods.
Terrific
thanks
tony.
U
Hi
everyone.
Thank
you.
I
also
just
wanted
to
echo
commissioner
baxley's
thoughts
about
that
art
piece
on
the
the
back
side,
where
the
biking
path
and
everything
is.
I
really
like
that.
I
think
that's
kind
of
the
stuff
that
I've
been
pushing
on
the
commission
to
see
developers
do.
I
think,
that's
kind
of
exactly
that
kind
of
activation.
U
I'd
love
to
make
sure
you
know
the
person
who's
getting
the
contract,
for
that
is
a
local
artist,
put
my
own
plug
in
there
of
people
for
our
own
community
here
to
to
get
to
get
to
actually
do
that
piece,
but
I
think
that's
an
important
kind
of
piece
of
how
you
can
use
art
to
activate
and
make
that
feel
like
a
safe
corridor
and
kind
of
you
know
a
behemoth
of
a
building,
but
also
feel
like
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
pedestrian
scale.
B
I'm
not
seeing
other
comments
so
I'll
go
ahead.
I
agree
with
what
the
other
commissioners
have
said
about
the
activation
that
you've
done.
It's
not
traditional
activation,
but
I
think
it
would
be
something
that
would
make
me
feel
safe,
walking
down
that
street,
despite
the
fact
that
there
aren't,
you
know
storefronts
and
as
far
as
the
comprehensive
plan
amendment,
I
think
I
would
absolutely
support
that.
B
All
right,
I'm
not
seeing
any.
So
thank
you
to
the
applicant
team
and
peter
for
your
presentation.
B
All
right
and
we
have
peter
back
again
for
item
number
15..
Oh
wait
item
number
14
right,
which
is
535
15th
avenue,
southeast
and
528
14th
avenue
southeast.
S
S
S
This
is
a
context
image
that
shows
you
that
half
block
development
site
in
relationship
to
some
of
the
surrounding
uses,
including
the
university
of
minnesota
east
bank
campus,
which
is
located
about
three
blocks
to
the
south
there
and
then
several
larger
scale,
housing
developments
that
are
geared
towards
students
at
the
university,
as
well
as
the
historic
dinky
town
commercial
district,
which
is
located
just
two
blocks
from
the
site.
S
S
The
site
is
currently
guided
for
the
built
form,
transit,
15
overlay
district,
so
it
would
allow
for
a
project
of
this
size
and
the
future
land
use
is
community.
Mixed
use,
15th
avenue
southeast,
which
is
located
immediately
to
the
east
of
the
site.
Here
is
a
goods
and
services
corridor
and
the
community
mixed
use.
Land
use
designation
would
typically
require
for
publicly
accessible
ground
floor
uses.
S
However,
the
site
is
currently
zoned
for
the
r5,
multiple
family
district,
so
it
would
require
rezoning
to
a
district
that
supports
commercial
uses
if
those
are
going
to
be
implemented
on
the
site.
The
applicant
is
not
proposing
a
rezoning
site,
so
we
are
looking
at
a
a
residential
use.
Only
building.
S
This
is
the
ground
floor
plan
that
shows
you
kind
of
the
organization
of
uses
and
relationship
to
the
public
realm
around
the
site.
The
applicant
is
proposing
the
main
entrance
lobby
and
leasing
space
at
the
corner
of
15th
avenue
and
6th
street
southeast,
so
that
would
be
the
most
publicly
accessible
part
of
the
program
and
then
they're,
proposing
walk-up
residential
units
along
6th
street
southeast
14th
avenue
southeast
and
then
facing
the
rear
property
line
and
those
adjacent
residential
uses
on
the
rest
of
the
block.
S
The
other
thing
to
note
on
this
plan
is
the
access
to
the
structured
parking.
The
applicant
is
proposing
one
level
of
underground
parking
and
then
two
stories
of
above-grade
structured
parking,
which
would
include
a
total
of
about
211
structured
parking
stalls.
S
There
are
two
entryways
to
that
structured
parking,
one
off
of
15th
avenue,
southeast
and
one
out
of
14th
avenue
southeast,
and
that
is
one
of
the
questions
that
I
wanted
to
focus.
The
commission's
attention
on
15th
avenue
southeast
is
an
extremely
busy
transit
corridor
for
university
of
minnesota
students
and
staff.
It's
the
busiest
bicycle
corridor
in
the
city
actually,
and
there
are
some
plans
for
a
more
intensive
bike
facility
on
that
corridor.
S
So
that's
one
question
that
that
staff
is
interested
in
discussing
a
landscaping
plan
shows
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
setbacks
along
all
building
frontages
that
would
comply
with
the
required
setbacks
under
the
r5
are
under
the
transit
15
in
combination
with
the
r5
zoning,
so
they're
not
seeking
any
exceptions
to
reduce
those
setback
requirements
and
then
the
structured
parking
as
you
move
up
the
first
two
levels
of
the
tower
and
then
the
tower
itself.
S
The
tower
footprint
is
this
kind
of
s-shape
that
creates
a
couple
of
internal
courtyards
to
the
structure.
We
did
look
at
this
project
a
couple
months
back.
If
commissioners
will
recall
at
that
time,
we
were
just
mainly
looking
at
the
massing
of
the
tower
and
again,
the
applicant
is
doing
some
things
to
try
to
mitigate
the
massing
impact
on
surrounding
properties.
S
Lobbying
leasing,
space
entrance
and
then
some
elevations,
so
at
the
base
and
then
on.
These
sort
of
massing
modules
above
the
base
on
the
tower
would
be
a
combination
of
brick
and
metal
panel
kind
of
framing
those
larger
building
masses
and
then
brick
at
the
base
of
the
project
as
well.
And
then
this
is
the
elevation
that
I
wanted
to
just
call
out
as
a
point
of
concern
along
15th
avenue
southeast
showing
that
loading
space
and
parking
entrance.
S
This
would
be
the
14th
avenue
parking
entrance,
showing
some
walk-up
units
along
that
portion
of
the
facade
as
well.
So
I'll
pause
there.
Given
that
we've
looked
at
this
project
a
little
bit
before
and
take
any
questions
from
the
commission
before
we
discuss.
S
Okay
and
there
may
be
constraints
there
with
the
applicant's
attempt
to
meet
the
parking
screening
in
terms
of
providing
active
uses
around
the
entire
above
grade
structure,
parking,
which
is
a
requirement
of
the
site
plan
review
chapter.
So
I'll,
ask
them
to
elaborate
on
that.
Just
in
terms
of
how
the
parking
circulation
is
organized
and
the
logic
there.
V
J
Yeah
jack,
we
can
go
ahead.
This
is
chase
powell
with
landmark.
Thank
you
guys
for
hearing
our
application
again
today.
You
know,
I
I
think
the
big
picture
here
is
we're
starting
to
advance
design
and
want
to
get
any
of
your
feedback
as
we
advance
the
project
further,
and
I
will
let
chris
and
jack
take
it
from
there
on
the
presentation
of
the
new
renderings.
V
Okay,
okay,
chris,
do
you
want
to
just
quickly
highlight
the
the
overall
program
for
the
project
and
the
side,
issues
that
we're
addressing.
W
Yeah
thanks
jack
hi,
chris
belkovic
dkb
group
architects,
as
I
I
think
peter
did
a
great
job
with
the
rundown
overall.
But
just
a
couple
areas
to
point
out
is
the
the
base.
Zoning
is
r5
and
we
are
maintaining
the
the
project
as
a
residential
use
throughout.
That
was
something
that
was
discussed
last
time
and
just
to
reiterate
we're
kind
of
a
a
block
block
and
a
half
from
where
the
commercial
district,
the
core
of
the
commercial
district
is.
W
We
we
are,
would
be
somewhat
adjacent
to
the
target,
but
not
at
the
the
same
main
entry
as
the
the
target
within
the
marshall
project.
So
we
we're
looking
at
that
we're
transitioning
more
into.
E
W
V
Okay,
just
very
quickly.
Obviously
this
is
a
great
mixed-use,
neighborhood
commercial
university,
fifth
15th,
a
very
active
bikeway,
14th,
more
the
commercial
street,
but
but
right
adjacent
to
us
is
the
marcy
holmes
neighborhood
and
to
the
north,
and
so
we're
kind
of
a
transition
project
at
the
street
level,
specifically
for
the
pedestrian
experience.
V
The
context
for
us
having
designed
several
projects
near
the
university
and
the
marshall,
is
a
perfect
example
right
across
the
street
of
working
to
develop
a
design
that
has
a
multiple
building
massing
facet
to
it
and
something
that
develops.
Even
though
this
is
a
tall
building.
I
think
architecturally
you'll
see
that
we've
made
efforts
to
develop
a
strong
base
and
pedestrian
residential
feeling
and
then
develop
the
overall
massing
of
the
building,
as
as
it
ascended
for
to
be
interesting
and
of
a
of
a
an
appropriate
scale.
So
next
slide.
V
Some
of
the
cues
of
stepping
the
massing
relating
to
this,
the
pedestrian
streetscape
along
sixth,
where
we
have
basically
residential
development.
The
marshall
at
the
ground
floor,
as
we
mentioned
at
our
last
presentation,
can
continue
the
concept
of
having
walk-up
town
homes
along
sixth,
and
then
we've
carried
that
through
to
the
residential
development
of
of
this
block.
By
having
a
very
strong
ground,
plane
residential
walk-up
experience,
we
have
a
15-foot
setback
on
all
three
streets,
plus
a
20-foot
setback
at
the
mid-block
connection.
V
So
this
illustrates,
I
think,
the
the
strong
use
of
the
residential
setback
at
15
feet
to
create
walk-up
terrace
entries
to
each
of
these
ground-level
townhouse
access
units,
and
then
that
is
along
14th
and
along
sixth
and
then
at
the
corner
of
seventh
and
fifth
sixth
and
fifteenth.
V
We
we
have
our
main
building
entrance
and
our
plaza
and
then
access
points
further
down
from
that
along
15th.
Most
importantly,
is
the
through
block
connector,
that's
a
20-foot
greenway
walkway
that
connects
14th
and
15th.
We
would
be
assuming
that
there
would
be
development
of
of
a
backyard
fence
along
our
neighbors.
So
that's
that
works
quite
well
for
us
and
then
also
smaller
fences
around
each
of
our.
V
You
know:
low
20,
30
inch
just
sort
of
patio
fences
at
to
help
accentuate
each
of
the
townhouse
entries
and
to
create
a
a
very
nice
connection,
pedestrian
wise
between
14th
and
15th.
V
So
that's
the
strength
of
our
residential
building
and
the
the
development
of
that
gra
of
the
ground
plane
to
strengthen
the
residential
experience
and
chris,
would
you
kind
of
walk
us
through
the
development
of
the
upper
portions
of
the
building
and
also
the
grade
level?
Townhouse
access,
facade.
W
Yeah
thanks
jack,
one
minor
point
of
clarification.
We
we
are
for
zoning
code
wise.
We
are
not
looking
at
this
being
a
plaza
but
enhanced
landscaping
on
that
corner.
So
but
note
that
peter
thank
you.
We
we've
done
supplies
on
some
other
ones
and
there's
some
extra
extra
layers
there
so
we'd
like
to
find
a
way
to
to
enhance
it
and
enhance
the
neighborhood.
At
the
same
time,
the
the
parking
scheme
and
the
the
layout
of
the
building
scheme
really
kind
of
worked
hand-in-hand
as
we
looked
at
integrating
the
parking
within
the
building.
W
What
what
our
scheme
is
to
to
minimize
the
the
parking
impacts
and
to
really
maximize
the
the
green
space
of
the
edges,
with
the
with
the
setbacks,
is
to
have
the
the
parking
coming
off
14th
and
that
going
down
to
a
level
below
grade
overall
and
the
parking
coming
off
15th
going
up
and
going
up
one
level
above
great.
So
the
the
ramps
are
are
crossing
one
another
and
those
that
parking
isn't
intermixing,
so
it
it
actually
just
puts
on
15th.
W
A
large
level
of
below
grade
parking
here.
This
is
the
first
floor.
The
second
floor,
then,
is
our
our
top
level
of
parking.
W
W
And
when
you
get
to
level
level
16,
we
we
stop
the
we
stop
the
mass
on
the
the
west
side
of
the
site
and
that
then
we
have
two
levels
on
16th
and
17th
continue
of
the
tower
portion.
But
we
we
created
an
amenity
deck
up
at
up
at
that
level
of
the
building.
But
where
that
also
we
felt
was
really
integral
into
the
design
was
that
it
really
created
stepping
and
breaking
down
the
massing
that
it
started
to
create
a
feeling
that
you'll
see
accentuated
on
the
exterior
of
of
a
collection
of
buildings.
W
Yes,
thank
you,
jack
yeah,
okay,
the
the
next
building
upon
jack's
point.
There
was,
we
created
street
sections
and
we
understand
there's
a
variation
of
context
around
this-
that
there's
the
biermann
complex
is
extremely
large
in
scale.
There's
the
the
biermann
apartments
across
the
street
that
are
rather
larger
in
scale,
but
then
there's
also
some
smaller
apartments
and
other
elements
that
we've
worked
with
and
understanding
and
working
with
the
neighborhood
along
14th
and
other
areas.
W
W
Looking
at
the
exterior,
this
is
from,
I
did
adjust
these
views
from
the
the
packet
peter
had
to
make
it
a
little
more
clean
for
the
discussion
here.
So
if
you're
looking
at
the
packet,
please
note
there's
a
little
variation
here
in
the
next
two
slides
of
which
views
are
being
shown,
so
both
both
of
these
that
the
view
here
is.
Oh,
it
looks
like
this
said.
My
apologies
that
this
is
the
this
is
the
original
slide.
The
the
update
did
not
save
so
I'll.
W
C
W
Our
integration
of
the
dark
brick
at
the
base
we're
we're
looking
at
carrying
out
some
of
the
data.
It's
not
just
of
this
building,
but
of
other
three
and
a
half
and
four-story
buildings
within
the
area
as
well.
And
then
we
further
look
at
breaking
down
the
mass
of
creating
two
tower
elements
on
this
corner
of
a
a
mid
brown,
brick
and
then
a
dark
charcoal,
brick
as
well,
and
those
becoming
a
bit
more
vertical
in.
W
In
contrast,
the
the
other
mid-block
image
on
15th,
where
we're
beginning
to
look
at
some
of
the
existing
three
and
a
half
story.
Buildings
as
well.
Here
that
we've
we've
brought
that
podium
down
to
two
stories
and
really
accentuated
the
height
a
little
bit
more
on
15
as
it's
as
it's
going
to
the
higher
scale.
Overall.
W
The
the
bottom
image
here
is
really
that
primary
corner
at
15th
and
6th
you're,
seeing
the
two-story
lobby
through
here
and
a
strong
articulation
of
being.
You
know
a
bit
more
massive
in
in
our
intentionality
of
that
feeling,
overall
of
that
side
and
then
you're,
seeing
that
the
breaking
down
of
the
building
into
different
elements
as
we're
working
through
the
site
as
well.
W
And
these
are
just
examples
of
what
the
the
street
front
we're
looking
at
very,
very
vibrant
street
landscaped,
highly
landscaping
visually
interesting
street
fronts
along
both
sides.
The
upper
image
is
at
the
main
entry
at
15th
and
the
lower
image
is
on
14th
and
here
you're
you're.
W
Seeing
that
that
step
into
the
podium
of
clearly
defined
through
here
to
just
further
further
change,
some
of
the
articulation
and
the
massing
overall
and
that's
really
going
to
be
the
primary
pedestrian
experience
at
that
height
and
then
the
building
stepping
back
and
then
having
the
tower
elements
coming
through.
But
the
changes
in
color
and
the
stepping
further
further
break
down
this
into
just
a
different
kind
of
a
more
feel
of
a
collection
of
buildings,
rather
than
a
larger
overall
building.
V
Of
as
you
go
further
down
14th,
you
can
begin
to
see
the
buildings
in
the
blocks
beyond
and
how
our
four-story
datum
line
really
begins
to
start
picking
up
on
that
scale,
plus
the
marshall
across
the
street.
So
we
felt
that
the
14th
avenue
massing
was
particularly
respective
of
respectful
of
the
adjacent
texture
and
scale.
W
The
gray
portion
is
metal
panel.
That
really
is
kind
of
the
connective
glue,
bringing
these
pieces
together
and
within
the
within
the
the
larger
frames.
We
do
have
some
precast
concrete
panels
that
we're
looking
at
a
you
know
a
light
tone
in
there,
and
then
we
do
have
some
metal
panel,
as
well
as
secondary
elements,
to
further
give
some
definition
and
visual
visual
appeal
as
we
break.
B
G
Thank
you.
Sorry.
My
office
is
cold,
so
I
apologize
for
the
winter
jacket.
In
the
middle
of
the
day,
I,
like
the
materials
that
you
guys
have
chosen.
The
only
question
I
had
is
on
one
of
the
elevations.
G
It
looked
like
there
was
potentially
a
longer
stretch
of
area
without
articulation
and
then
on
one
of
the
kind
of
zoomed
in
ones
it
looked
like.
There
was
an
awning
and
I
just
wanted
to
double
check
which
one
of
those
was
correct.
So
if
you
could
just
slide
back
up
to
the
like
3d
elevations,
like
renderings,
that
would
be
good.
G
G
Yeah,
that's
okay.
It
looks
like
commissioner
marwah
has
comments
too.
So
maybe,
while
you're
pulling
it
up,
commissioner
marwa
could
comment.
B
U
Hi,
sorry,
I
just
arrived
home
from
the
airport,
so
I'm
still
in
the
taxi,
because
there's
no
ubers
and
lifts
today,
it's
a
winter
storm
I
will
mention
so
I
you
know
it's,
it's
I'm
fine
with
the
materials
it's
a
very
standard.
Building
the
name
of
the
building
is
the
standard.
It
is
a
standard
building.
I
think
you
guys
have
you
know.
You've
just
talked
about
all
the
different
components.
I
think
there's
just
some
room
that
you
guys
can
make
it
more
interesting.
It's
a
student
building.
U
I
just
got
back
from
a
consulting
visit
where
we
saw
these
very
cool
aquarium
galleries
that
buildings
are
doing
where
they're
kind
of
using
some
of
that
side.
Frontage
like
what
commissioner
mcguire
just
mentioned,
where
there
was
nothing
and
using
it
as
kind
of
pop-out
spaces
where
you
could
program
it
or
have
you
know,
students
who
live
in
the
building,
use
that
as
rotating
pieces,
there's
so
much
interesting
things
that
people
are
doing,
especially
in
student
housing
markets.
U
I
was
just
in
ann
arbor
michigan,
it's
full
of
student
housing
projects
and
they're
doing
all
these
very
kind
of
interesting,
innovative
ways
to
make
projects
feel
more
part
of
their
community.
I
think
I'm
fine
with
your
materials,
I
like
kind
of
the
mix
of
different
elevations
and
pieces
that
you're
doing
and
all
of
that,
but
I
just
would
like
to
see
a
little
bit
more
integration
and
the
pedestrian
scale
of
what
people
are
walking
by.
Why
is
this
an
interesting
project?
U
Why
is
this
not
just
a
standard
another
building
in
dinky
town
that
sorry,
I'm
getting
my
receipt
that
people
are
walking
by?
So
I
think
that's
just
a
little
bit
of
my
comment
constantly
wanting
to
push
our
envelope
a
little
bit
on
what
our
built
environment
looks
like.
I
think
ann
arbor's
doing
a
little
bit
of
this.
I
think
there
could
be
more
of
it
here
too.
So
I
think
you
know
your
materials
are
great.
Some
of
that
kind
of
side,
step
stuff
is
fine.
U
G
Thanks
yeah
I'll
just
echo
what
commissioner
marwa
said,
and
I
think
the
elevation
you
pulled
up
as
long
as
that
3d
view
is
the
most
recent.
G
Actually,
no,
there
was
one
from
the
southwest
corner
before
this
that
looked
like
there
was
a
longer
wall
without
articulation
yeah
right
there
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
the
middle
center
of
really
architectural
terms.
Whatever
that,
like
longer
facade,
is
without
anything
breaking
it
up
next
to
those
windows,
if
you
could
just
add
some
extra
articulation,
I
think
that
would
be
nice.
W
D
Well,
I
I
was
just
I
will
that
I'll
have
a
comment
I
looking
at
the
the
15th
of
street
frontage,
as
I
understand
that
we
have
the
the
leasing
office
lobby
and
some
glass
there
on
that
corner.
15Th
avenue,
I'm
sorry
on
that
corner.
D
But
then
what
we
have
is
some
black
plain.
I
think
the
stairwell,
I
guess,
isn't
it
followed
by
a
the
parking
one
of
the
parking
entrances
followed
by
a
truck
entrance
or
a
loading
entrance
that
and
I'm
just
I'm
amazed
that
you're
proposing
that
for
the
main
street
in
in
this
neighborhood
you've
got
all
kinds
of
pedestrian.
D
W
Fair
comments.
What
what
we're
really
looking
at
was
trying
to
create
the
focusing
more
on
the
neighborhood
connectivity
along
6th
and
14th,
and
that's
where
we're
focusing
the
the
townhomes
a
bit
more
and
we
were
internally
weighing
that
which
side
an
area
for
this
to
go
upon,
and-
and
this
is
where
we
you
know.
This
is
where
we
landed,
but
we're
we're
hearing
the
comments.
D
W
Would,
as
a
follow-up
question
to
that,
if
we
were
to
move
the
the
loading
to
to
sixth,
how
do
how
do
commissioners
feel
about
us?
Maintaining
the
the
auto
entry
curb
cut
upon
15.
D
Well,
I
can
tell
you
that
I
mean
I
I
clearly
you've
got
to
have
an
auto
entrance
somewhere
and
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
tell
you
how
to
design
it.
But
it
just
seems
to
me
the
more
you
can
make
15th
less
of
a
automobile
and
truck
entrance
and
stairwell
the
more
you
can
do
along
15th
avenue
and
and
and
if
you
can
reduce
the
crossing
of
the
sidewalk.
B
B
All
right,
commissioners,
any
other
feedback
or
discussion
on
this
item.
L
Thanks,
commissioner,
thanks
jack
and
chris
for
your
presentation,
it's
nice
to
see
the
development
coming
along
in
the
articulation
of
the
towers.
Specifically,
I
think
they
were
a
lovely
proportion,
I'm
it's
the
light
material.
I
think
that
I'm
reacting
to
inside
of
those
you
know,
I
think
you
could
have
the
dark
tower.
Those
infill
panels
could
be
a
subtle
darker
version
of
that,
so
it
has
a
little
bit
more
monumentality
and
the
red
tower.
L
Maybe
it's
a
little
play
on
the
red,
so
it
isn't
the
same
sort
of
lightness,
so
that
becomes
a
little
bit
more
solid
and
less
spidery,
but
I
think
the
proportions
are
lovely.
I
think
I
think
that
works
really
well
and
the
light
material
is,
is
that's
the
sort
of
infill
the
recesses
is
that
precast
or
is
that
metal
panel?
Am
I.
L
W
On
the
I'll
point
out,
a
few
of
the
areas
here,
yeah
thanks
I'll
go
to
the
elevation
it'll
be
a
little
easier
flat.
So
if
we're
calling
out
for
just
a
smooth
sandblast
finish
on
the
precast
panels
and
on
the
metal
cell
itself,
we
haven't
necessarily
picked
the
final
pattern
of
what
that
may
be.
But
maybe
that
needs
a
little
bit
of
a
movement.
B
L
L
Then
I
think
all
the
joint
and
detailing
for
that
metal
panel
is
going
to
be
super
critical,
as
you
know,
to
sort
of
pull
off
those
stitches
in
a
way
that
it's
it's
it's
background
I
realize,
but
so
it
doesn't,
oil
can
and
appear
thin
and
and
sort
of
pasted
on
there.
L
Otherwise,
again,
I
think
the
townhouses
are
terrific.
I
do
struggle
with
those
three
giant
access
doors
on
15th
that
that
is
tough.
I
think
looking
sliding
that
around
or
really
finding
a
way
to
kind
of
treat
those
big
doors
as
something
interesting.
You
know
that's
a
you
know.
L
That
would
probably
be
we'll
look
at
that
first
and
then
see
if
we
couldn't
slide
the
bike
around
lounge
around
on
15th
make
that
more
present
and
find
that
access
tucked
around
the
corner
might
be
nice
to
think
about.
But
I
again
I
I
think
the
mass
of
the
building
has
come
along
really.
Well,
I'm
curious
on
the
amenity
deck.
Do
you
guys
still
have
views
back
to
downtown
from
there
or
does
the
higher
part
of
the
building
sort
of
screen?
W
C
B
B
Up
next
is
our
final
discussion
item
1901,
26th
street
east
and
1860
28th
street
east,
oh
and
peter
is
back
for
a
third
time.
S
E
C
S
S
S
So
this
is
a
aerial
view
showing
that
existing
site
that
runs
along
hiawatha
and
26th
street
east
and
then
that
south
roof
depot
site
that
would
occupy
the
expanded
public
works
facility,
and
then
another
important
note
would
be
that
a
portion
of
the
site
that
is
directly
adjacent
to
the
neighborhood
along
longfellow
avenue
and
28th
street
would
be
composed
as
a
future
outlot
for
some
future
development
scheme
that
has
yet
to
be
determined,
so
that
would
be
left
vacant
in
this
proposal.
S
These
are
some
images
showing
the
existing
public
works
facility.
So
this
is
that
26th,
the
26th
avenue
frontage
of
the
existing
campus
and
some
internal
views
of
how
the
campus
functions
today
and
then
some
views
of
that
existing
roof
depot
site
also
important
to
note
that
the
midtown
greenway
bicycle
access
ramp
to
the
sabo
bike
bridge
over
hiawatha
avenue,
runs
directly
adjacent
to
the
site
on
the
east
side
of
the
campus
and
then
along.
This
hiawatha
facing
and
26th
facing
elevation
is
currently
a
wall
which
incorporates
some
city
of
minneapolis
maintained,
public
art.
S
The
facility
would
include
several
new
buildings
and
several
new
uses
on
the
site.
I'm
just
going
to
outline
those
briefly
in
description
here
and
then
I'm
going
to
have
the
applicant
team
kind
of
take
us
on
a
tour
through
the
site
to
describe
in
more
detail
what's
happening,
but
they
are
proposing
a
new
parking
garage
on
the
site
located
here
next
to
hiawatha
avenue,
it's
a
new
three-story
parking
ramp
with
approximately
428
structured
vehicle
parking
stalls,
those
would
be
for
public
vehicles
and
for
our
public
employees
that
are
coming
to
the
site
for
work.
S
There's
a
new
70,
000
square
foot
tempered
vehicle
storage
building
that
would
be
here
in
the
center
of
the
site
and
that
would
include
a
solar
garden
on
the
roof,
16
000
square
foot
addition
to
the
existing
vehicle
maintenance
facility.
Here
that's
connected
to
that
26
avenue
facing
existing
office
structure.
S
S
The
applications
that
would
be
required
to
enable
this
expansion
would
be
a
rezoning
of
a
portion
of
the
site
from
the
I-1
light
industrial
district
to
the
i2
medium
industrial
district.
That
would
bring
the
whole
site
under
one
zoning
district
and
it
would
allow
for
the
conditional
uses
that
are
being
proposed
under
the
campus
expansion.
S
Those
include
an
expansion
to
an
existing
street
and
equipment
maintenance
facility
and
a
conditional
use
permit
for
the
new
public
vehicle
parking
garage
and
then
site
plan
review
for
approximately
320
000
new
square
feet
on
the
existing
maintenance
facility.
S
S
Additionally,
the
applicants
proposing
some
kind
of
unique
treatments
to
the
new
parking
garage
that
would
be
facing
hiawatha
avenue
I'll
go
to
those
images
just
to
show
briefly-
and
the
applicant
may
want
to
elaborate
on
that.
But
that's
going
to
be
highly
visible
from
that
bicycle
access
and
potentially
from
hiawatha
as
well
again,
I
think
we're
going
to
go
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
to
some
of
these
elevations,
but
this
is
the
elevation
of
that
proposed
parking
garage
along
hiawatha
they're,
proposing
a
perforated
metal
panel.
S
That
would
be
kind
of
modulated
in
this
pattern
here
to
add
visual
interest
to
that
public
facing
elevation,
that
parking
garage
and
then
additionally,
we'd
be
looking
at
a
screening
proposal
for
the
out
lot.
S
I
know
that
chris
backus
from
public
works
is
here,
and
I
think
that
they're
members
of
the
architectural
team
as
well
and
I
can
take
direction
from
them
in
terms
of
where
to
go
in
the
very
comprehensive
document
here
in
terms
of
how
to
best
outline
the
project.
But
I
can
also
take
questions
from
the
commission
if
they're
already
ahead
of
time.
I
Thank
you
peter
chris
bacchus,
finance
and
property
services,
and
I'm
kind
of
newer
to
this
project,
and
I'm
going
to
be
really
brief
and
I
believe,
because
I
believe
we've
got
our
our
design
team
with
us
tonight
and
a
little
limited
on
time.
So
again,
I'm
going
to
be
really
brief.
I
I
So
shortly
thereafter
we
looked
at
this
as
kind
of
a
phase
two
for
our
water
east
yards
location
purchased
the
roof
depot
in
2016..
I
After
a
pause
for
a
portion
of
last
year,
last
fall.
We
were
kind
of
given
direction
to
move
forward
with
this
project
again
and
create
the
outlet
that
we
see
here
today
in
the
upper
portion
of
this
screen,
and
so
that's
approximately
three
acres
that
we're
kind
of
leaving
out
and
peter
talked
about
this-
the
screening
to
that
site-
and
this
puts
us
on
a
track
for
approximate
demolition
of
the
existing
facility
and
sometime
in
2022
and
construction
moving
on
in
2023
and
beyond
for
this
project.
I
So
that's
all
I've
got
I'll
turn
it
over
to
terry,
with
rrsp
architects.
X
Thank
you
chris.
Thank
you
peter
thanks
for
that
summary
of
the
project
yeah.
This
is
a
obviously
a
very
large
complicated
project.
The
the
projects,
this
view
is
a
great
one
to
start
on,
so
peter.
Thank
you
for
starting
here
we're
we're
actually
looking
to
the
southwest
at
the
intersection
of
hiawatha
and
26.
X
the
main
access
points
and
are
currently
on
26
and
we'll
be
extending
that
axis
for
all
the
fleet,
vehicles
and
and
public
works
vehicles
will
all
be
connecting
and
using
26th
and
28th.
The
entry
point
on
28th
at
the
very
top
of
the
image
is
there's
currently
a
curb
cut
from
the
roof
depot
building.
That's
moving
about,
I
want
to
say
approximately
100
feet
to
the
east.
X
X
This
is
going
to
be
a
a
lead
project,
we're
providing
green
roofs
and
solar,
ready
roofs
on
all
the
new
construction,
as
well
as
the
parking
ramp
will
have
a
water
cistern
for
storm
water
retention
below
the
parking
ramp.
The
people
space
is
purposely
located
on
26th
and
28th
28th
to
intentionally
activate
the
streets.
X
X
Site
circulation
diagrams
can
be
found
on
pages
11
through
15.,
when
we
kind
of
look
at
the
campus
you'll
see
building
a
which
is
on
26
and
maybe
peter.
If
you
go
to
page
34
in
the
sequence,
this
building
is
very
much
of
the
the
scale
and
I'm
going
by
it
might
be.
Let's
see,
I'm
going
by
the
pdf
page
number,
not
our
page
number.
So
I'm
sorry!
X
So
if
you
can
go
back
a
couple
perfect,
maybe
back
one
more
so
it
shows
the
scale
of
of
the
building.
So
this
is
yeah
right
on
the
sidewalk.
This
is
looking
to
the
west.
You
see
the
new
building
there
to
your
left.
The
existing
building
is
in
the
background.
X
The
scale
of
this
is
intentionally
consistent
with
the
existing
buildings.
Utilizing
many
of
the
materials
again,
the
program
spaces,
the
people
spaces
office
spaces
are
all
located
on
the
street
level
to
help
activate
that
street
and
energize
that,
along
with
the
landscaping
and
green
space,
the
office
space
here
is
for
public
works,
sws,
tmnr
and
ted
spaces.
There's
also
some
training
spaces
on
the
second
level
in
future
expansion.
X
We
also
have
in
the
new
office
space
expansion
here
on
26,
a
green
roof
and
employee
patio.
If
you've
kind
of
flipping
a
couple
more
images,
peter
you'll
you'll
see
that
space
between
the
the
office
space
here
and
the
parking
ramp
to
the
left,
so
that
that
goes
to
the.
X
Gives
the
employees
some
outdoor
space
one
image
back
this
one
right
here
and
that's
you're,
also
looking
here
at
the
north
facade
and
starting
to
see
the
perforated
metal
screens
that
help
to
screen
any
headlights
and
the
vehicles
that
are
on
the
upper
two
levels
of
the
parking,
the
first
level
the
parking.
It
should
be
noted
that
that
first
level
of
parking
is
for
many
of
the
specialized
vehicles
that
public
works
has
and
those
that
need
to
be
protected
from
rain
and
snow.
X
There's
significant
investment
for
the
city,
the
public
facade
that
is
the
hiawatha
facade
peter,
talked
about
the
fact
that
we're
trying
to
much
more
highly
articulate
that
facade.
X
If
you
go
to,
I
think
page
44
peter
that
that's
that
image
from
the
greenway
bridge
and
the
hiawatha
side,
but
we
were
trying
to
provide
more
depth,
there's
a
precedent
image
with
that
as
well
and
there
you
are.
You
can
see
that
image.
We
we
wanted
to
provide
some
depth
some
articulation
and
activity.
X
Obviously,
it's
you're
gonna
be
mainly
seeing
this
both
from
the
greenway
bridge
and
then
also
from
the
driving
on
hiawatha
and
and
any
pedestrians
on
hiawatha
again,
there's
a
cistern
to
collect
storm
water
below
the
parking
ramp.
X
If
there's
also
an
existing
storage
building,
that's
denoted
as
building
c
on
the
plan,
it's
housing
existing,
it's
basically,
indoor
tempered
storage
for
vehicles
and
store
components,
go
in
that
space
as
well
on
page
49
peter.
If
we
go
to
the
vehicle
storage
building,
this
is
the
building
that
is
housing,
the
majority
of
of
vehicles
that
require
indoor
tempered
space.
X
So
this
facility
this
this
building,
it
has
clear
story,
high
lighting
to
provide
daylight
and
visual
connections
and
safety
within
the
building,
since
it's
mainly
a
parking
for
these
large
vehicles
and
especially
the
water
department,
which
has
to
have
tempered
vehicles
and
tempered
spaces.
You'll
also
see
on
the
south
side,
their
solar
wall
panels
to
help
help
with
the
heating
and
cooling
of
the
building
and
then
again
the
roof
is
designed
for
potential
future
solar
panels.
X
This
is
a
combination
of
brick
and
precast
burnished
block
as
well
as
glass
again,
the
office
space
is
purposely
fronting
and
helping
to
activate
28th
you'll,
also
see
in
the
slides
here
and
with
the
landscape
portion.
The
greenway
bike
path
is
extended
along
this
route.
There's
a
couple
sections
that
show
this
is
meant
to
be
a
companion
path
with
pedestrians
and
bikes,
and
the
greenway
crossing
obviously
goes
across
28.
X
There
you'll
also
see
green
screens
on
the
building
again
more
solar
walls
and
and
the
building
fronts
right
along
that
greenway,
similar
to
the
way
the
roof
depot
building
did
so
that's
kind
of
the
quick
summary
I
know,
there's
a
lot
to
absorb
with
this
project
and
happy
to
answer
questions.
H
Thanks,
yes,
I
have
a
few
questions
and
then
I
just
have
a
few
comments.
So
first
of
all,
I'm
wondering
is
a
tdm
plan
required
for
this
expansion.
This
project.
S
This
is,
this
is
peter,
it
is
required,
and
this
project
went
through
an
eaw
process
last
year
and
traffic
study
and
traffic
impacts
are
a
part
of
that.
So
all
of
that
information,
that's
gathered
from
that
process
would
be
included
in
our
review
once
we
get
to
land
use
entitlements,
so
we
would
be
looking
at
those
traffic
studies
as
well
as
the
points
that
the
applicant
would
be
proposing
as
a
part
of
their
required
tdm
compliance.
H
Great
thank
you
for
that
information.
I
appreciate
that
and
then
I'm
wondering
I
saw
in
policy
16
of
the
comprehensive
plan
which
moment
talks
about
environmental
impacts
of
transportation.
It
says
under
the
action
steps,
the
city
will
actually
step
k,
document
and
publish
the
anticipated
greenhouse
gas
impact
of
every
major
structure
project.
Is
that
happening?
Has
that
has
that
been
done
already.
S
Yeah,
so
the
eaw
process
looks
at
all
kinds
of
different
impacts,
and
I
know
that
traffic
was
a
big
focus
of
the
conversation
around
that
process.
I
don't
have
all
of
the
details
to
share
tonight
about
you
know
what
was
discovered
through
that,
but
all
of
that
is
public
information.
So
any
of
the
findings
of
fact
from
that
eaw
process
would
be
available
on
the
city
website
and
then
again
we
will
revisit
some
of
those
bigger
issues
in
the
actual
analysis
of
the
project.
Once
we
get
to
that
point,.
H
Great
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
So
I
guess
I
I
am
curious.
Okay,
so
on
page
68,
I
believe
of
the
packet
or
the.
H
C
X
Okay,
this
is
this
is
part
of
the
employee
patio
that
is
between
building
a
and
and
the
parking
ramp.
So
this
is
in
the
enclosed
area.
This
is
not
part
of
the
public
space
but
part
of
the
employee
patio.
X
If
you
go,
I
want
to
say
peter.
If
you
go
down,
there's
a
diagram
of
this
on
two
pages,
two
up
from
where
you
were.
X
If
you
see
that
the
series
of
tables
there,
this
was
looking
from
the
building
side
to
the
straight
to
the
east
there
and
there's
a
green
wall
that
you'll
see
that
fronts
and
separates
provides
some
separation
to
the
parking
ramp
that
is
located
at
the
south
edge.
So
this
is
part
of
the
enclosed
area
for
public
works.
Employees.
H
Okay,
thanks.
I'm
also
wondering
how
many
of
the
428
parking
stalls
are
for
personal
vehicles,
not
for
it
was
noted
in
the
I
believe
in
the
packet.
It
said
something
like
personnel,
but
I
wanted
to
confirm
this
is
for
employees
parking
their
own
cars,
the
people
commuting
and
I'm
curious.
The
proportion
was
it
something
like
247,
ish.
X
You
know
I
I
would
need
to
go
back
and
and
confirm
that
and
share
it
with
peter.
We
have
a.
I
know
when
we
went
through
with
public
works.
There
was
ride,
share
the
light
rail
transit
use
vacation
time.
That
was
all
part
of
that.
I
want
to
say
the
employee
portion
of
the
total
vehicle
count
is
probably
it
and
don't
quote
me,
but
I
think
it's
about
one-third.
So
this
page
yeah
the
counts
are
in
here.
X
H
Thanks
and
I
know
it's
late,
so
I'm
going
to
try
and
make
it
really
quick,
but
I
just
have
a
couple
other
quick
questions
and
you
know
maybe
they'll
be
part
of
the
tm
point
system
that
we'll
see
in
the
future.
But
I
guess
I'm
wondering
what
price
will
be.
Will
employees
be
charged
for
parking?
H
Will
they
parking
cash
out
program
be
offered?
Do
employees
currently
have
access
to
transit
passes
or
will.
C
H
Offered
in
the
future,
those
are
my
those
questions
and
then
I
have
a
few
comments.
I
H
Yeah,
thank
you,
so
I
just
will
finish
off
just
to
say
that.
Thank
you
for
those
comments
and
I
look
forward
to
the
answers.
I
am
the
minneapolis
park
board
representative
to
the
planning
commission.
This
is
my
area.
H
35
35w
to
the
river
cedar
riverside
down
36th
street
phillips
phillips.
The
neighborhood
is
a
green
zone
and
I
would
like
to
just
quick
say
a
couple
things,
one
of
which
I
I
do
have
major
concerns
about
this
parking
ramp
about
the
blank
space
facing
the
the
blank
wall
facing
hiawatha.
I
just
want
to
read
from
policy
eight
of
the
comp
plan.
Public
safety
through
environmental
design.
J
H
A
crime
prevention
through
environmental
design
and
that
the
city
of
minneapolis
requires
all
new
development
to
conform
to
these
principles,
including
development
projects
that
are
both
publicly
and
privately
owned,
and
I
have
concerns
about
this
because
crime
in
phillips
the
rates
there
are,
I
just
looked
quick
337
percent
higher
than
the
national
average,
and
I
I
think
we
owe
it
to
this
neighborhood
to
do
better
in
that
realm.
Also,
in
terms
of
thank
you
in
terms
of
environmental
justice,
the
city
and
policy.
H
That
was
policy,
I
believe
it's
61
6,
yes,
61.
it
states
the
city
strives
to
achieve
environmental
justice
for
its
residents
through
the
fair
treatment
of
all
people.
Fair
treatment
means
equitable
distribution
of
environmental
resources
burden,
and
so
I
I
ask-
I
I
feel
that
I'm
concerned,
because
I
don't
believe
that
a
428
stall
parking
ramp
with
interior
gardens
and
patio
equitably
distributes
environmental
resources
and
bird
to
this
neighborhood.
So
I'm
concerned
about
that.
I'm
concerned
about
this
black
wall.
H
I'm
also
concerned
that
if
you
don't
implement
paid
parking
and
parking
cash
out
programs
and
proven
tdm
strategies
that
we
are
not
going
to
meet
policy,
16
environmental
impacts
of
transportation,
you
know
even
with
evs
electric
vehicles,
we
still
need
to
reduce
38
percent
or
we
need
a
38
reduction
in
passenger
miles
traveled
to
reach
the
80
reduction
goal
in
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
2050,
and
this
is
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
that's
really
concerning
to
me.
I
know
another
project
got
taken
off
of
the
agenda.
H
Was
the
century
plaza
acquisition?
On
apologies?
It
was
at
1101
third
avenue
south,
which
included
lots
of
office
space
and
an
existing
parking
ramp,
and
I
just
urge
folks
at
the
city
to
take
a
a
hard
look
at
this
project.
In
light
of
both
of
these
things
happening
and
and
my
comments
tonight
so
thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
comment
on
these
projects.
U
Hi
everyone
I
have
made
it
home.
Finally
oof,
I
I
had
a
quick
question
about
this.
I
saw
staff's
comments
around
you
know
that
experience
for,
if
you're
on
the
greenway
and
that
connection
and
that
wall,
I
like
that,
if
there's
some
reuse
of,
I
think
in
your
materials,
it
says
the
lowry
bridge
or
lowry
components
of
a
reuse.
Could
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
X
Yeah
peter,
if
we
go
to
the
image
at
the
out
lot,
maybe
of
the
gate
and
there's
a
there's,
a
view
both
on
26th
and
here
you
can
see
kind
of
on
the
right
where
the
green
screen
occurs,
we're
using
bridge
deck
from
the
lowry
bridge
and
that's
consistent.
We're
interweaving
that
with
new
materials
as
well
other
metals
and
components
to
provide
visual
connections
to
the
site
and
then
to
repurpose
and
reuse,
those
there's
a
limited
supply,
so
we're
we've
scattered
them
out
throughout
the
site.
X
They're
they're,
currently
north
of
the
existing
stores,
building
right
now
that
along
the
alleyway
beach
on
the
north
side
of
the
site,
kind
of
off
of
26th
and
and
whatnot
there's,
probably
a
couple
images:
yeah,
there's
the
existing
stores
building
and
if
you
go
further
up,
maybe
some
of
the
precedent
photos
at
the
very
beginning
yeah
here
go
here,
goes
around
so
you'll
see
existing
lowry
fencing
to
remain
in
the
upper
left
there
north
of
building
c
that,
okay,
that
is
already
there.
X
We're
gonna
use
some
as
well,
where
it's
designated
along
26th,
where
it's
designated
at
a
to
provide
some
visual
connections
to
the
green
space
and
then
we're
intermittently
using
it,
because
we've
got
a
limited
supply
where
we
can,
along
that
outlot
edge
down
at
the
lower
left
of
the
site.
U
Okay,
so
I
really
like
the
reusing
the
repurposing
of
that
you
know
that
fence.
I
think
it's
also
visually
more
interesting
than
most
fences
you
see,
so
I
really
appreciate
that.
I
think
you
could
intersperse
it
with
something
more
with
interesting
than
just
kind
of
new
fencing.
I
mean
you're
think
about
the
greenway
about
people
use
this
as
a
commuter
rail
like
commuter
riding
trail
every
day,
right,
you're
biking
by
it,
but
is
am
I
seeing
it
right?
That's
where
you
would
be
seeing
it
from
the
green
one.
X
From
the
greenway
you're
mainly
going
to
be
seeing
the
building
edge
and
we
are
going
to
be
using
it
also
along
between
that
building
and
up
to
the
bridge.
So
yes,
actually
that
plan
peter
you
were
just
on.
I
guess
we
don't
have
an
image
from
the
greenway
to
show
that
fencing,
but
we
were
trying
to
use
primarily
the
lowry
bridge
deck
that
we
have
along
that
edge.
U
Okay,
I
just
think
you
can.
I
mean
for
again
like
thinking
about
the
people
who
will
be
going
around
this
behemoth
of
this
space
every
day,
right,
you'll
be
taking
the
trail
you'll
be
walking
around
this
building.
Think
about
it
from
their
perspective
of
what
they're,
seeing
so
when
you're
thinking
about
this
plan
of
it
is
that
I
think
that
that
repurposed
fencing
is
a
great
idea,
but
I
also
think
interspersing
it.
U
You
could
do
more
like
decorative
elements,
so,
instead
of
just
a
different
type
of
fence
put
in
you
know,
panel
walls
where
artists
can
do
you
know
murals
or
storytelling
pieces
on
it.
If
you
think
about
more
of
that
connection
of
how
that
space
is
reconnected
back
to
the
community,
because
this
is
what
the
people
are
going
to
be
seeing,
it
doesn't
matt.
U
You
know,
I
think
repurposing
fencing
is
great
you're
using
an
element,
and
you
know
metal
and
all
this
stuff,
but
I
think,
rather
than
just
having
thinking
that
you
have
to
fill
it
with
other
fence,
there's
ways
to
look
around
that
that
doesn't
just
have
to
be
other
fencing,
especially
given
that
people
are
going
to
be
the
people
on
the
other
side
of
this
fence
that
they
look
at
of
this
building
every
day.
And
so
does
that
make
sense.
X
U
Yeah
and
then
my
other
question
was:
who
is
I
see
that
you
have
those
solar
gardens,
which
I
think
is
great
for
the
rooftops?
Who
is
the
programmer
of
those
who's
kind
of
your
partner?
I
imagine
it's
not.
Public
works
who's
taking
up
it's.
X
F
I
C
U
A
programmer
of
using
that
solar
power
as
gardening
on
the
rooftop,
which
also
happens
not
that
not
the
latter,
got
it.
Okay,
okay,
perfect
yeah,
I
mean
my
only
other
thought
is
kind
of
given
just
even
some
of
the
programmers
in
this
area
of
that
area.
Again
peter.
Can
you
go
back
to
that
slide
where
it
shows
the
green
space
by
the
greenway
and
the
wall.
U
It
just
kind
of
shows
the
wall
and
kind
of
the
the
curve
of
the
green
white
coming
through,
but
my
thought
on
that
is
that
again
there
can
be
some
really
interesting
cool
native
plantings.
There
could
be
a
good
landscape
plan
in
there.
I'm
not
what's
the
plan
for
all
of
that
space.
Is
it
just
going
to
be
plane,
cut
grass.
Y
Hi
this
is
jeff
mcminiman
with
damon
farber,
we're
the
landscape,
architects
on
the
design
team.
So
we
have
been
talking
about
native
materials
along
that
edge
and,
as
you
can
see
in
this
slide
here,
we're
also
looking
at
incorporating
vines
on
these
panels,
we're
calling
them
green
screens
so
that
there's
some
green
on
there
year-round.
Y
It's
also
difficult
to
see
in
this
slide
a
little
there's
a
couple
of
guys
there
against
the
brick
wall.
There
is
a
plan
view
probably
down
near
the
bottom
of
this
slide
deck
peter.
That
does
show
where
there's
a
small.
Maybe
there
you
go,
there's
a
small
patio
there
on
the
southeast
corner
of
the
project.
There's
a
bench
there's
a
there's,
a
kiosk
with
some
trail
signage
on
it
and
then
there's
a
bike
repair
station
there.
So
there
is
a
it's
a
gesture
to
folks
that
are
using
the
midtown
greenway
there.
Y
U
C
U
Public
will
utilize
these
components.
You
know
that's
nice,
I'm
glad
that
you
have
that
and
there's
one
bench
but
think
about
how
many
people
use
this
space.
If
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
reprieve
right
there
you're
rebuilding
all
of
this
space
right
now.
If
it
feels
a
little
bit
more
like
a
little
bit
of
a
park.
I
think
that
would
be
great.
Almost
at
this
corner,
you're
coming
off
the
bridge,
there's
a
nice
kind
of
place
to
sit,
relax,
take
a
breath.
U
Have
some
water
pump
up
your
tires,
like,
I
think,
if
you
think
about
that,
a
little
bit
more
of
an
interaction
with
the
people
who
are
using
this
space
every
day
coming
through.
There
would
be
great
because
you
do
have
this
space.
I
mean
there's
no
shortage
of
kind
of
from
your
photos,
at
least
of
kind
of
how
that
green
space
will
be
there.
U
You
know,
and
and
people
will
use
that
if
it's
available-
and
that
goes
to
what
commissioner
alfred
was
saying
about-
you
know
the
green
space
just
not
being
on
the
interior
for
the
employees,
and
I
understand
it
has
to
be
separate.
But
I
think
you
have
the
space
on
the
outside
to
think
about
how
this
is
also
part
of
your
site
plan
and
how
this
can
connect
to
the
larger
community.
Y
Yeah,
absolutely
terry
remind
me,
I
I'm
not
sure
if.
U
There's
anything
like
community,
you
know
you
know
like
if
you
have
a
community
partner,
if
you
guys
can
put
what
what
are
those
like
the
green
boxes
in
there
that
people
can
do
their
own
plantings
like,
I
feel,
like
that's
a
really
great
community
gesture
on
space,
like
that.
That
brings
back
the
community
into
knowing
that
this
space
is
also
this
green
space
has
been
made
available
for
for
something
more.
That's
it.
D
X
Have
more
conversations
with
the
greenway
and
the
county
on
that,
because
it's
we
would
need
to
do
that
in
conjunction
with
that
team.
U
Okay,
I
understand
that
but
yeah.
I
just
think
if
you
think
about
what
you're
redoing
all
this
anyway
kind
of
some
of
those
small
components
that
are
inexpensive,
that
can
mean
a
lot
to
the
people
who
will
be
near
the
site
every
day
who
don't
have
access
to
that
type
of
green
space,
or
anything
like
that
so,
especially
while
you're
already
redoing
it
okay.
I
think
that
wraps
up
my
comments
on
this.
Thank
you
guys.
L
All
right,
it's
getting
late
I'll,
be
I'll.
Be
brief,
but
terry
thanks
for
the
president.
Again,
I
think,
there's
you
know
the
the
beginning
of
this
project
years
ago.
It's
got
some
good
bones,
so
I
see
you're
kind
of
carrying
that
language
through
and
I
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
do
wonder:
building
f
really
is
your
sort
of
billboard
opportunity
on
the
greenway
and
it
feels
like
it's
it's
it's
not
taking
advantage
of
that
yet,
like
I
think
you
know,
it's
got
a
little
bit
of
a
green
screen.
L
It's
got
a
little
bit
of
kind
of
solar
wall.
It's
sort
of.
I
think
I
wonder
if
that
isn't
something
you
could
be
a
lot
more
bolder
about
and
more
billboard-like
and
and
and
that's
the
one
spot
where
we
could
say
look.
This
is
public
works,
that's
what
it
means
to
the
city.
We
recognize
the
greenway
presence
and
it
isn't
a
series
of
little
stories.
It's
kind
of
one,
one
amazing.
You
know
it
was
all
green,
for
example,
or
you
know,
really
take
advantage
of
a
billboard
opportunity.
L
There,
I
think,
would
be
terrific
and
I
think
since
jeff
is
on
too
I
know
you
mentioned,
there's
some
cistern
collection
system
for
the
for
the
new
parking
ram.
But
just
if
you
can
comment
quickly
on
the
approach
to
storm
water
on
the
site,
we
got
a
lot
of
pervious
service
there
for
good
reason-
and
I
know
we've
got
islands
and
things,
but
are
we,
you
know
really
driving
home
some
best
practice
around
rain
gardens
pre-processing.
L
I
think
you
are,
but
if
you
could
just
talk
about
that
a
little
bit.
Your
approach
to
the
landscape,
which
I
think
is,
is
really
important
to
this
project.
Y
Sure
I
mean
I
can
touch
on
it,
but
certainly
lean
in
terry,
the
the
south
portion
of
the
site,
which
is
the
new
portion
of
the
site.
There
is
it's
an
arsenic,
plume,
underneath
a
big
chunk
of
that
site,
so
we
can't
infiltrate
stormwater
into
that
whole
southern
portion
of
the
site
on
the
northern
portion
of
the
site.
We
do
have
in
the
areas
that
you
see
a
b
and
c
on
the
northern
portion
of
site.
We
have
rain
gardens
in
all
of
those
areas.
Y
In
the
parking
lots
we
do
have
another.
We
have
a
rain
garden
just
to
the
south
of
building
a
you
can
see
that
sort
of
green
and
yellowish
area
and
again
you
know
we're
trying
to
collect
as
much
storm
water
as
we
can
in
those
areas
and
trying
to
infiltrate
storm
water
in
those
areas.
But
it
is
a
as
you
mentioned,
it's
a
very
impermeable
site
in
a
lot
of
the
areas
here
and
this
and
the
plume
underneath
the
south
half
of
the
site
makes
it
impossible
to
infiltrate.
L
Great
great
thanks
for
that
clarification,
I
think
you
guys
were
looking
for
feedback
on
the
fence
as
well
too,
and
I
think
we
talked
about
that
a
little
bit
and
I,
if
I'm
understanding
that
right
jeff,
is
that
a
series
of
it's
weathered
steel,
but
is
it
sort
of
a
corrugated
panel?
Could
you
talk
about
that?
What
those
are
and
how
your.
Y
Yeah
that
that
is
the
idea
there.
It's
a
it's
a
corrugated
sort
of
corten
like
material
inter
intermixed
with
the
lowry
bridge
grate
pieces
and
we're
using
we're
seeing
those
lowry
bridge
gate
pieces
as
an
opportunity
for
to
those
to
again
to
host
vines
growing
up
those
yeah.
And
this.
Y
C
L
L
I
I
think
you
got
to
be
careful
with,
so
it
doesn't
look
like
whether
it's
the
edge
detail
or
how
it
meets
the
ground
or
kind
of
how
the
posting
works
or
how
the
seeming,
even
if
it
is
temporary,
to
kind
of
be
careful
with
a
sort
of
application
of
big
corrugated
sheet
metal.
If
it's
weathered
that's
great,
at
least
it's
changing
it's
kind
of
morphing
over
time,
but.
X
I
think
one
of
the
other
things
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we're
doing
with
this
any
of
the
fencing
is
creating
some
articulation
and
depth.
So
I
mean
we're
talking
about
layering
that
that
fencing
too,
so
I
think,
good
point
about
the
corrugated
metal
we
can.
We
can
also
look
at
some
other
options
with
that
yeah.
L
I
mean,
I
think
you
can
you
just
got
to
be
careful
about
how
and
take
maybe
take
advantage
of
how
it
seemed
or
or
how
yeah
and
and
create
that
some
additional
shadow
layers,
terry
or
some
articulation
to
kind
of
you
know,
take
advantage
of
of
of
the
sunshine
and
how
it
changes
over
time
as
it
passes
over
the
wall,
but
terrific
to
see
this
moving
ahead.
It's
great.
B
B
K
B
We
haven't
had
a
marathon
meeting
in
a
while.
We
can
still
do
it
all
right
anything
else
before
we
adjourn
from
anyone.
B
All
right,
seeing
none-
oh,
oh,
never,
mind!
That
was
just
a
thank
you
if
not
without
objection.
I'll,
just
click
declare
this
meeting
adjourned.
Our
next
planning
commission
meeting
will
be
monday
march
7th,
and
our
next
committee
of
the
whole
meeting
will
be
thursday
march
10th.
Thank
you.
Everybody.