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From YouTube: April 13, 2022 Capital Long-Range Improvement Committee
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B
As
a
reminder,
this
meeting
will
be
recorded.
Please
limit
use
of
the
chat,
as
those
comments
are
not
visible
the
public
and
we
do
not
want
a
conversation
going
on
separate
from
what
is
verbalized
in
the
meeting.
If
you
get
disconnected
or
have
tech
issues,
please
use
the
dialing
feature
with
that.
The
clerk
will
begin
the
meeting
once
the
recording
begins.
A
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
jeffrey
strand,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
capital,
long
range
improvement
committee.
Before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
note
that
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13
d
.021
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
E
C
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D
A
G
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H
F
20
total
present.
A
A
A
Which
will
include
the
roll
call
adoption
of
the
agenda
acceptance
of
minutes
of
april
6
capital
budget
requests,
q,
a
for
art
in
public
places,
minneapolis
park
and
rec
board
and
then
followed
by
task
force,
breakout
sessions
and
adjournment,
noting
that
I
have
a
conflict
at
1
pm,
so
vice
chair
bridges
will
manage
the
meeting
at
that
point.
Is
there
any
discussion.
J
K
J
L
F
Jones
hi
matt
kozinka
hi
richard
loro.
M
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G
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N
This
is
scott
engel
I'm
here
now
and
I
vote.
I.
J
A
A
So
just
reminder
that
the
city
staff
sent
out
a
reminder
of
for
the
q
a
session
in
terms
of
process
guidance
and
then
also
that
back
on
april,
11th
members
were
sent
the
notice
about
the
ethics
training.
So
there
was
a
link
provided
to
check
the
status
of
your
ethics
training
and
the
homepage
to
public
works.
Presentations
and
cvrs
was
updated.
O
Good
morning,
mr
chair
members
of
the
capital
long-range
improvement
committee,
I'm
mary
altman,
I
am
the
supervisor
the
public
arts
supervisor
and
for
community
planning
and
economic
development.
We've
submitted
two
cbrs
to
you,
which
is
unusual.
O
The
first
cbr01
has
been
submitted
for
many
decades
in
one
form
or
another
to
the
capital,
long
range
improvement
committee
for
an
annual
dedication
of
the
net
dead
bond
to
public
art,
permanent
public
art
projects
and,
and
then
the
second
one
is
for
a
special
project
for
public
public
art,
for
the
upper
harbor
terminal
felt
that
this
is
such
a
large
project.
O
You
know
many
many
many
40,
almost
50
acres
and
you
know
we
are
really
creating
an
entirely
new
place
in
the
city
and
in
an
area
of
the
city
where
we
have
traditionally
under
invested
and-
and
so
we
felt
that
was
really
important
for
this
project,
not
unlike
nicolette
mall
or
the
new
public
service
building
to
have
its
own
significant
public
art
budget.
K
O
Also
like
to
share
that
community
engagement
is
a
really
important
part
of
the
process
for
us
on
these
projects.
O
You
know
we're
developing
pieces
that
will
be
in
the
community
for
generations
and
engaging
the
community
and
engaging
each
community
in
the
way
they
need
to
be
engaged
is
really
important
to
us,
and
so
we
tailor
community
engagement
to
every
single
project,
and
I
gave
some
examples
in
both
the
proposal
and
in
the
presentation.
O
But
I'm
happy
to
talk
more
about
that
too.
I'd
also
just
like
to
add
that
you
know
we
have
not
been
perfect
over
the
years
in
community
engagement
and
we
are
not
perfect.
Now
we're
continuing
to
learn
and
grow
all
the
time,
but
but
I
am
pretty
proud
of
where
we're
at
to
date,
although
I
do
continue
to
look
forward
to
learning
more
and
more
from
the
community
about
the
best
way
to
approach
working
with
communities.
So
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
answer
questions
today.
A
Vice
chair
bridges
can
help.
Here's
john,
I
see
john
bernstein
hand
raised.
J
E
Top
of
that
form,
it
says
that
the
outstanding
bond
authors
unused
remaining
bond
authorizations
are
862,
000
and
change,
which
is
basically
the
amount
that
was
allocated
for
2022,
but
at
the
bottom
of
that
cbr
you
have
a
chart
that
shows
a
bunch
of
projects
that
are
underway
and
that
holds
3.4
million
dollars
in
remaining
authorizations.
E
O
Yeah,
that's
a
mistake.
I
apologize
for
that.
E
So
I'll
just
pick
one
on
here,
upper
harbor
terminal,
it
says:
plan
completion
is
2025
and
it's
300
000.
O
So
so
a
couple
of
ways
I'm
going
to
answer
that
question
one
is,
is
that
we
do
spend
the
money
over
a
number
of
years.
You
know
we
each
project
from
beginning
to
end
the
timeline
for
it
is
approximately
three
years,
but
it's
also
dependent
on
the
infrastructure
project
that
we're
connected
to
right.
E
O
So
and
so
so,
each
project's
timeline
is
really
individual,
and
so
it
is.
O
So
so
it
does
take
several
years
to
spend
the
bonds
and,
but
you
know
I
recognize
we're
actually
sitting
on
a
lot
of
bonds
right
now.
The
other
thing
is
is
that
you
are
not
off
in
ardo
one.
O
You
are
not
authorizing
individual
projects
like
upper
harbor,
you
authorize
ardo
one
and
you
fund
it
every
year,
according
to
the
ordinance,
and
then
the
minneapolis
arts
commission
selects
the
projects,
and
so
I
don't
know
how
to
answer
the
second
part
of
your
question,
because
I
don't
know
how
that
would
work
according
to
the
policy
and
the
process
that
both
finance
and
cpad
are
implementing
in
terms
of
funding
our
projects.
You
know
what
I
mean.
I
do.
E
E
You
know
you've
explained
over
many
years
that
part
of
this
is
just
the
nature
of
these
kind
of
projects
they
take
a
while
to
complete
and,
as
you
just
pointed
out,
there
are
some
things
that
are
beyond
your
control,
where
you
know,
as
it
relates
to
other
infrastructure
that
needs
to
be
in
place
before
you
can
do
certain
things
right,
so
I'm
just
suggesting
that
maybe
finance
and
you
think
about
a
a
better
feedback
loop.
So
we
could
try
to
not.
G
O
We
we
are,
we
are,
to
be
honest,
pretty
we
we're
catching
up,
but
we
are
pretty
behind,
because
we
ended
up
with
17
new
projects
as
part
of
the
new
public
service
building
that
were
outside
of
our
work
plan
and
so
over
the
last
two
years,
we've
our
our
workload
has
been
enormous.
O
You
know
we
are
normally
managing
like
about
nine
or
ten
projects
a
year
and
we
over
the
last
three
years,
we've
been
managing
managing
three
times
that
and
so
we're
playing
catch-up,
but
we've
contracted
with
some
additional
project
managers
and
we're
trying
to
get
these
projects
out
the
door.
A
Let's,
let's,
let's
ask
finance
if
they
have
any
clarity
for
the
issue,
so
am
I
understanding
the
question
was
putting
things
into
the
six-year
capital
improvement
program
versus
my
understanding
has
always
been.
The
council
and
mayor
actually
approved
the
appropriation
for
the
next
year,
but
did
finance
have
any
comment
on
this
last
discussion
just
to
clarify
for
members.
B
So
if
it's,
if
it's
for
the-
I
guess
for
ardo
one
the
I
mean
the
amount
is
determined.
It's
one
point:
five
percent
of
total
net
debt
bond
a
month
so,
like
the
the
future,
your
dollar
amounts
are
just
planned
and
like
well.
This
is
adopted
as
part
of
a
part
of
the
whole
picture
of
last
year,
but
this
number
does
adjust
throughout
the
year
when
we're
moving
into
the
next
year.
Yeah.
H
Yes,
sorry
I'd
like
to
begin
by
thanking
mary
for
years
and
years
of
dedicated
work
to
to
bring
such
great
art
to
the
city.
I've
been
on
some
of
your
tours
and
really
enjoy
seeing.
What's
there.
My
question
is
specific
to
the
upper
harbor
terminal,
so
that
that's
an
interesting
situation
where
the
park
board
has
a
large
segment
of
property
there
and
they've
engaged
with
juxtaposition.
H
Arts
as
their
consultant
for
art,
they've
been
doing
public
outreach
to
gather
the
public's
sentiments
about
what
art
looks
like
there,
and
you
mentioned
something
earlier
regarding
a
a
long-term
type
of
art
as
a
which
is
a
little
different
from
what
juxtaposition
was
talking
about
in
that
they're
they're
talking
about
art
that
changes
over
time
in.
H
It
adapts
to
the
the
changes
in
society
and
and
our
cultural
taste.
So
the
first
question
is:
are
you
going
to
be
working
with
the
park
board
on
developing
this?
This
plan
for
art
in
that
in
the
apartment
terminal
and
the
second
question
is
oftentimes
developers
will
provide
set-asides
and
I
believe
it's
mandated
in
in
some
cases
in
many
cases
that
a
certain
amount
be
set
aside
for
art?
H
Is
that
included
in
your
planning
for
their
proper
terminal
and
do
the
developers
have
the
developers
committed
to
providing
funding
for
public
art
in
that
development
area?.
O
Thank
you
for
your
questions.
They're,
really
good
questions.
So,
first
of
all,
both
public
works
and
the
park
board
had
juxta
on
their
team
and,
yes,
we
would
be
working
with.
If
this
is
funded,
we
would
be
working
with
both
public
works
and
the
park
board
to
implement
projects
into
their
capital
improvement
projects
at
the
upper
harbor
in
terms
of
the
percent
for
private
development.
We,
actually
there
is
no
mandate,
there
are
what
are
called
of
far
bonuses
for
developers
that
kick
in
sometimes
for
public
art.
O
I
might
my
understanding
of
those
is
not
really
complicate
complex.
I
don't
I
I'm
not
not
a
zoning
administrator,
but
I
I
believe
that
the
far
bonuses
would
likely
not
kick
in
on
this
site.
Just
because
it's
it's
about
density
and
I
don't
think
we're
building
at
the
density
where
those
would
kick
in,
but
also-
and
sometimes
we
encourage
developers-
and
I
think
in
this
case
the
developer
is
very
interested
in
integrating
public
art.
O
And
one
of
our
hopes
or
thoughts
is
that,
if
we're
investing
in
public
art
in
the
public
realms
and
in
the
park
that
the
developer,
that
the
developer
will
be
encouraged
to
kind
of
carry
that
into
their
own
work
and
to
build
on
the
planning
and
community
engagement
that
we've
been
doing,
and
so
there's
not
a
requirement.
But
we
do
hope
that
the
developer
will
do
that.
Did
I
answer
all
your
questions.
H
H
Yeah,
if
mr
chair,
if
I
could
follow
up
and
follow.
A
H
Okay,
the
the
there
there
is
a
community
benefits
agreement
that
is
in
development.
H
That's
where
I
would
recommend
the
city
in
requests
that
the
the
developers
include
funding
for
public
art
before
the
community
benefits
agreement
is
signed
and
and
delivered.
So
we
we
can
explore
that
later.
Yesterday,.
O
Just
in
terms
of
the
the
ability
to
do
more
temporary
pieces
that
change
over
time,
you
know
because
this
is
generally
funded
through
the
net
dead
bond.
We
have
to
have
a
longer
life
span,
and
so
we
we
are
unable
to
do
shorter
term
pieces.
O
That
doesn't
mean
that
the
park
board
can't
fund
those
through
its
programming
dollars.
You
know,
as
the
park
develops
it.
We
also
artists,
sometimes
are
capable
of
designing
permanent
pieces
that
have
some
ability
to
change
ability
to
change
in
terms
of
what
they
look
like
during
different
times
of
day.
O
The
incorporation
of
lighting
is
sometimes
able
to
create
kind
of
a
changing
element,
also
artworks
weather
differently,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
public
artists
really
are
challenged
to
do.
You
know
they
were
is
to
really
think
about
the
long
term,
how
people
will
experience
the
peace
in
the
long
term
and
when
people
created
work
for
the
new
building,
we
said
remember
the
audience
what
the
audience
is
going
to
look
like
in
25
years
for
this
project,
and
we
would
definitely
do
that
for
upper
harbor
too,
because
it
is.
O
It
is
a
community
that
first
of
all
we're
inventing
a
community
in
many
ways
or
or
inventing
a
place.
H
A
Thank
you
thanks
thanks
next
managing
the
stack
will
go
to
katie
jones,
then
dan
miller
and
then
back
to
john
bernstein.
Q
Yes,
thank
you.
I
had
to
step
away
for
a
second,
so
I
apologize
if
this
is
a
redundant
question,
but
to
clarify
you
say
in
the
project
description
that
art
02
is
beyond
the
the
ordinance
required
1.5,
essentially
mandate
for
art
investment,
correct,
correct!
Q
Okay,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
why
you
see
like
you,
you
mentioned
that
constrained
budgets.
Things
like
that.
Can
you
explain
why
there's
a
necessity
for
the
secondary,
essentially
secondary
project,
sure.
O
Oh,
first
of
all,
so,
for
example,
ardo
one
funds,
the
entire
city
upper
harbor
and
upper
harbor
has
been
submitted
the
last
few
years
to
the
public
art
advisory
panel
in
the
arts.
Commission,
then
upper
harper
is
competing
with
projects
across
the
city.
It's
unlikely
that
we
could
make
a
major
major
investment
that
the
arts,
commission
or
the
public
art
advisory
panel
would
say,
we'd
like
to
invest
like
three
years,
the
public
art
budget
in
this
one
area
of
the
city.
O
So,
but
I
think
we
feel
strongly
that
this
site
deserves
major
investment.
Just
like
nicolet
mall
deserved
a
major
investment.
Just
like
the
new
building
deserved
a
major
investment.
This
site
deserves
a
major
investment,
and
you
know
this.
This
site
has
is
a
is
a
blight
on
the
north
side
community
and
has
been
for
many
many
years,
and
this
is
really
an
opportunity
to
right
that
wrong
and
to
also
write.
O
You
know,
generations
and
generations
of
racism
and
structural
racism
in
this
community
and
environmental
racism,
and
so
we
believe
the
city
should
make
a
major
investment
there
to
create
a
new
place.
That
represents
the
communities
that
have
been
discriminated
against
for
so
long.
Q
If
I
can
ask
a
quick
follow-up
question,
so
can
you
confirm
that
there's
a
precedent
has
been
set
that
for
nicolette
mall
and
what
was
the
other
one,
the
new
public
service
center,
that
there
were
separate
budgets
projects.
O
R
Yes,
hello,
can
you
hear
me
okay?
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation,
mary.
My
question
is
about
arc
o2
and
the
upper
harbor
terminal,
and
I
was
wondering
if
there
are
some
plans
about
the
94
overpass
about
softening
that
exterior
or
softening
that
length.
O
O
And
and
yeah,
so
I
think
the
94
overpass
is
a
an
opportunity.
I
can't
over
promise
on
that,
because
right
now,
I'm
working
on
with
mndot
on
three
projects
and
two
one
of
them.
I've
had
a
permit
out
on
for
like
five
years
and
another
one.
I've
been
working
with
them
on
for
a
couple
of
years,
and
it's
just
it's
very,
very
difficult
to
do.
R
Partly
because
it
was
one
of
our
comments
on
page
40,
page
16
of
the
last
year's
quick
report,
but
collaborating
between
paving
projects
in
art,
101
or
in
this
case,
art,
102
and
part
of
that-
was
just
a
a
little
pitch.
That
94,
of
course
poses
a
lot
of
the
same
problems
as
rondo
does
in
st
paul
and
all
all
all
up
and
down
it
and
26th
avenue.
R
Yeah
did
a
wonderful
job,
getting
smart
work
connecting
farby
park
to
theaterworks
park,
but
nothing
from
farby
park
to
the
river,
which
now
has
the
new
river
overlook,
and
when
that
project
was
done,
I
think
they
faced
some
of
the
same
issues
of
mndot
and
but
it'll
be
certainly
nice
to
see
what
we
can
learn
on
on
the
upper
harbor.
If
it
could
be
applied
to
soften
that
awful
horrendous
overpass
as
well.
O
Also
one
of
the
three
permits
that
I'm
working
with
on
is
the
wilson
bridge
spanning
94.
I've
been
working
on
that
for
many
years.
I
think
we're
getting
close
to
an
agreement
with
mndot
and
and
apart
a
huge
part
of
that
work
is
already
fabricated,
I'm
hoping
to
install
it
this
fall,
but
I
am
again
running
into
hurdles
with
reviews
from
mndot.
So.
R
Thank
you.
Just
in
closing,
in
2023,
the
parks
board
will
be
connecting
the
river
overlook
to
holy
sable
south
to
west
river
road.
So
there'll
be
again
a
very
nice
connection.
There
and
it'd
be
great
to
bring
people.
A
Great
john
bernstein.
E
Thanks,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
one
thing
and
then
ask
a
second
question:
I'll
give
them
both
you
and
then
let
you
answer.
E
You
mentioned
that
too
many
dollars
spent
on
nicolette
mall
and
on
the
new
office
building
downtown,
I'm
wondering
if
there
was
anything
any
other
input
you
used
to
arrive
at
that
two
million
dollar
figure
for
upper
harbor.
That's
question
one
and
the
second
question
is
I've
been
on
the
committee
since
07
and
I
don't
recall
a
separate
art
project
coming
through
in
that
period
of
time.
E
O
O
I
think
that
staff
feel
that
the
upper
harbor
infrastructure
and
park
board
budgets
are
strapped
and
don't
have
the
capacity
to
fund
public
art
on
their
own
and
that's
why
we're
coming
to
you
with
a
separate
request
that
I,
I
think
the
two
million
dollar
figure
for
me
is
really
related
to
the
amount
of
physical
space
and
also
in
thinking
you
know.
O
So
but
if
I
was
going
to
like
say
what
it
would
cost
us
to
do
what
we
did
in
heritage
park
today,
I
would
estimate
that
that
would
be
about
2
million
in
investment,
and
so
given
the
amount
of
acreage
and
kind
of
what
it
would
look
like
to
do,
multiple
works
to
really
help
create
a
place
in
upper
harbor.
I
think
that
that's
that's
what
really,
what
would
be
required.
A
Okay,
well,
don't
want
to
discourage
questions,
but
if,
if
we
do
not
have,
then
if
mary
has
a
concluding
summary
and
then
we
I
know
have
quite
a
number
of
park
board
presentations
so.
J
O
What
I
would
like
to
first
of
all,
I
have
so
much
appreciation
for
the
work
that
click
does.
This
is
an
enormous
amount
of
work.
O
I
review
these
cbrs
on
a
regular
basis,
looking
for
art
opportunities,
and
I
just
know
how
much
paperwork
and
how
many
presentations
you're
going
through,
and
I
I
personally
just
really
appreciate
the
work
you're
doing
for
the
city,
but
I
I
do
hope
that
in
particular,
you
will
consider
this
special
request
this
year
to
fund
two
projects.
O
K
Thank
you
so
much
jeff
and
mary.
I
just
wanted
to
check
men
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done.
I
know
that
we,
my
staff,
have
given
a
lot
more
feedback
this
year,
as
we
try
to
implement
some
and
process
improvements
and
bring
some
things
like
a
racial
equity
lens
more
sharply
into
the
capital
project.
You've.
C
P
A
A
Okay,
let's
go
with
adam
welcome
and,
like
I
said
on
the
other,
probably
overview,
initial
high
points
presentation
and
then,
if
you're
doing
individual
projects,
we
try
to
break
for
questions
that,
after
each
project,
presentation
or
group.
P
Sure,
chair
strand
and
and
click
members,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
you
today,
I
I
will
admit
to
operating
a
little
bit
under
perhaps
the
pretense
of
last
year,
where
the
presentation
that
I
provided
by
video
in
advance
and
then
obviously
the
cbrs
go
into
some
detail
on
that.
So
I'm
not
going
to
represent
all
of
that
to
you
today
in
order
that
there's
a
lot
more
time
for
the
q,
a
which,
which
is
what
I
understood
this
to
be.
P
I
will
say,
though,
to
preface
the
park
board's
request
overall.
Is
that
there's
a
couple
of
differences
from
previous
years?
We
actually
are
submitting
a
larger
number
of
individual
projects
this
year
there
are
22
projects
that
have
come
before
you
and
as
in
years
past,
there
is
a
mix
of
projects
that
are
happening
in
a
single
park
and
then
also
projects
that
are
more
of
our
ongoing
programs,
and
we
also
do
have
one
special
assessment
bond
project.
It
has
to
do
with
forestry
of
those
ongoing
projects
that
we
do.
P
J
P
That's
park
rp
park.
Cp
is
the
project
that
captures
capital
improvements
in
parks
at
smaller
dollar
amounts.
The
reason
why
there
are
more
projects
this
year,
specifically
more
single
project
single
park
projects
this
year
there
are
16
of
those.
There
are
two
reasons
for
it.
Number
one
is
that
the
amount
of
the
mpp
20
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
park
board
did
increase
before
last
year's
cip
adoption.
P
So
the
park
board
is
is
requesting
more
funds
than
it
has
in
the
past,
under
that
revised
agreement
with
the
city
and
those
funds
are
escalating
year
over
year.
So
instead
of
the
previously
locked
in
10.5
million
in
bonds,
those
numbers
in
in
do
increase
year
over
year,
so
more
money
means
more
projects.
P
We
also
did
take
the
step
this
year
to
lower
the
dollar
amount
threshold
for
a
project
becoming
a
stand-alone
park
project
rather
than
being
subsumed
into
the
park
cp
project
down
to
a
straight
million
dollars.
So
there
are
actually
projects
that
were
in
that
global
park
cp
last
year,
which
are
now
standalone
projects.
P
This
again
gives
the
opportunity
for
you
to
see
them
in
more
detail
individually.
As
a
standalone,
I
know,
that's
been
a
consistent
request
of
click
in
the
past,
so
some
projects
had
their
budgets
increased,
which
created
single
park
projects
and
then
also
lowering
that
threshold
created
a
few
more.
P
So
that's
that's
why
there
are
more
of
them
and
again
just
the
only
other
note
that
I
that
I'd
make
before
turning
it
back
over
to
you,
chair
strand,
for
questions,
is
that
I
was
really
thrilled
this
year
to
see
the
new
racial
equity
questions
and
and
also
in
addition,
some
of
the
very
specific
longevity
and
facility
quality
questions.
P
Since
the
inception
of
npv
20,
the
park
board
has
been
using
an
equity,
a
set
of
equity,
metrics
empirical
data
driven
equity
metrics
to
build
its
own
cip,
that's
required
under
the
npp,
20
ordinance,
and
actually
it
was
good
to,
as
I
think
you
saw
in
the
cbrs,
we
were
able
to
provide
quite
a
lot
of
detail
on
longevity
of
specific
facilities
as
well
as
quality,
as
well
as
equity
scoring
under
the
racial
equity
metric.
P
So
I
was.
I
was
proud
to
show
that
off.
I'm
glad
to
see
that
that
there's
a
lot
of
interest
among
click
and
having
some
of
those
specific
questions,
I'm
happy
to
dig
in
deeper
on
any
specifics
if
you
want
to,
but
with
that
I
think,
chair
stranded.
I'd
like
to
you
know,
I
want
to
thank
the
committee,
obviously
for
your
service,
I'd
like
to
turn
that
back
over
to
you
and
and
let
the
members
here
today
kind
of
drive
where
the
conversation
goes.
A
Thank
you
adam.
It's
a
pleasure,
and
I
know
the
park
board
always
does
excellent
detailed
presentations
so
I'll
take
point
of
personal
privilege
here
to
just
say
that
with
shingle
creek
park
coming
in
as
it
happens,
when
I
was
first
had
moved
from
south
minneapolis
to
north
minneapolis,
that
was
one
of
the
very
first
projects
as
a
neighborhood
organization
person,
circa
1992
that
I
got
involved
with
was
completing.
A
I
would
call
it
an
equity
project
for
making
the
park
trail
connection
between
hennepin,
county
and
minneapolis
park
and
rec
board
about
600
yards
of
wood
chip
trail
was
paved
so
that
people
living
and
experiencing
disabilities
could
utilize
that
connection.
So
that
was
one
of
the
very
first
things
working
with
your
predecessors
and
through
shingle
creek
neighborhood
association.
To
get
that
accomplished
that
really
reinforced
the
value
of
citizen
engagement
with
me.
So
we
will
go
to
amity
and
then
john.
S
Thank
you,
mr
chair
hi,
adam
I'm,
the
ward
three
one
of
the
award
three
reps
on
click,
so
I
have
a
question
under
the.
Let
me
make
sure
I
get
the
right
number
prko2
so,
under
the
racial
equity
impact
analysis
under
scrolling
up
and
down
what
data
is
available
or
missing,
and
how
can
you
obtain
additional
data?
S
P
Yeah
amity,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
So
park
user
data,
you
know
who
who
walks
into
the
park
and
plays
in
the
wading
pool
or
plays
on
the
playground,
I
think,
is
one
of
the
biggest
data
gaps
in
in
our
system.
So
in
the
regional
park
system,
which
the
park
board
also
manages,
we
have
a
system
of
sending
people
out
into
those
parks
every
summer
to
do
visit,
counts
and
that's
required
in
order
to
get
met.
Council
funding
for
those
parks,
because
visitorship
is
an
aspect
of
that
funding.
P
The
main
reason
is
that
in
the
regional
park
system,
what
we're
doing
is
we
put
people
to
to
stand
at
park
entries
and
count
entrances
to
the
park?
People
who
enter
the
park
are
counted,
and
then
we
can
statistically
look
at
the
entire
system
through
that.
Neighborhood
parks
are
inherently
permeable
like.
Where
would
be
the
entry
of
a
particular
park
right
so
and
then
you
have
the
risk
of.
P
P
There's
been
a
couple
of
tests
of
this
in
our
system,
one
by
an
outside
group,
the
rand
foundation,
which
did
a
national
neighborhood
park
survey.
We
are
continuing
to
look
for
internal
funding
to
roll
out
a
more
robust
neighborhood
park
count
system.
The
two
barriers
are
paying
for
people
to
be
in
the
parks
to
do
that,
and
the
systematization
that
we
have
across
our
system
in
order
to
collect
accurate
data.
P
We
piloted
last
summer
a
way
of
doing
that
using
recreation
staff
that
are
in
the
buildings
already
we're
testing
to
see
if
that's
a
viable
way
to
go
forward.
The
problem
with
it
is
that
if
the
rec
center
buildings
open
at
3
pm,
we
have
missed
the
entire
morning
and
in
often
cases
we've
missed
sunday
because
we're
closed
on
sunday.
P
I
E
E
E
You
may
have
addressed
this,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
it
up
here
at
some
point
during
this
process,
we'll
be
able
to
see
how
much
the
park
board
has
requested
for
each
of
the
coming
six
years
of
the
current
budget
capital
budget-
and
you
know,
as
I'm
sure,
you're
aware.
Our
comment
in
the
past
has
been
that
the
park
board
requests
are
too
close
to
the
actual
amount
of
money
that
you're
going
to
receive
so
effectively.
P
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
We
have
not
submitted
additional
funding
request
beyond
what
is
exactly
authorized
under
the
npp
20
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
park
board.
P
P
Are
that
there's
really
there's
really
three
things
that
prevent
us
from
doing
that,
prevent
me
in
large
part,
as
staff
from
over
submitting
for
projects
the
ordinance
language
in
the
npp,
20,
ordinance
and
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
park
board
to
set
the
limit
of
what
we're
going
to
receive
in
funding,
and
so
it
is
that
limit
that
leads
to
the
creation
of
the
park
board.
Cip
and
I
need
to
have
a
balanced
cip.
P
I
need
to
have
a
balanced
park
board,
cip,
so
those
are
the
numbers
that
I'm
working
from
and
then
that
that's
what
gets
submitted
to
click
in
addition
and
here's,
the
the
sort
of
weirdness
sometimes
of
the
relationship
between
the
park
board
and
the
city-
is
that
we
actually
are
on
a
different
cip
timeline
than
the
city
is
so
I
cannot
create
my
own
2023
to
2020,
cip
until
I
update
the
park
board's
equity,
metrics
and
much
of
that
data
is
not
available
until
july.
P
P
P
So
though
I
I
totally
appreciate-
and
I
understand
click's
desire
to
want-
to
weigh
in
and
look
at
these
projects
and
weigh
them
against
each
other
currently,
logistically,
I
simply
cannot
over
submit
financially
because
of
the
ordinance
and
because
of
the
timing,
and
because
my
board
of
commissioners
has
to
authorize
what
I
provide
to
you.
E
So
if
I
could
just
follow
up
quickly
on
that
and
then
I'll
done
here,
this
might
be
more
comment
than
question,
but
if
you
want
to
respond
to
it
feel
free,
I
guess
I
would
view
that
as
not
the
correct
interpretation
of
that
ordinance
streets
is
also
part
of
that
ordinance
and
public
works
gives
us
way
more
streets
projects
than
could
possibly
be
funded
in
a
given
year,
and
maybe
I
I
think
that
what
what
happens
is
we're
effectively
being
asked
to
be
a
rubber
stamp
and
I'm
not
suggesting
intention
there,
I'm
just
saying
effectively.
P
P
I'm
if
I
might
share
strand
the
other
item
that
you
know
that
I
should
add
that
I
should
add
to
the
mix.
Is
that
also
by
ordinance
the
projects
that
go
into
the
cip
for
the
park
board
are
selected
under
our
equity
metrics.
P
P
I
think
that
that
the
comment
about
changing
the
workflow
does
make
sense
so
that
the
click
becomes
advisory
in
the
development
of
the
park
board.
Cip
is
a
possibility,
but
I
think
there's
a
concern
that
projects
would
be
picked
that
actually
don't
follow.
Then
the
equity
metric,
because
I
sort
of
already
know
once
we
do
the
equity
metrics
update
every
year
that
pre-determines
what
projects
I'm
going
to
send
to
my
board
and
if
those
differ
from
from
clicks
recommendations,
then
it
it
doesn't.
P
It
still
doesn't
give
you
the
opportunity
to
to
advise
on
the
differences
between
those
projects
on
their
on
their
relative
merits,
so
that
the
equity
ordinance
is
another
piece
that
I
think
makes
makes
this
challenging.
But
but
I
think
the
the
workflow
and
the
timing
comment
is
a
is
a
good
one.
It's
something
that
I
I
will
take
to
heart
in
and
look
at
for
our
next
cycle.
I
appreciate
that
idea.
A
T
T
So
it
to
me
it's
kind
of
like
it
keeps
this
cycle
of
institutional
racism
going
because
you
already
have
these
assets
you
need
to
maintain
and
the
assets
were
never
in
one
place
now.
They're
being
put,
am
I
making
sense
so
part
of
the
equity?
Your
equity
lens
is
maintaining
assets
correct
so,
but
the
assets
weren't
up
here,
for
instance,
so
a
big
chunk
of
the
money
and
part
of
the
through
the
equity
lin
lens
is
being
used
to
maintain
assets.
Okay,
so
that's
just
okay,
so
help
me
with
that.
T
So,
for
instance,
this
year
this
is
what
I'm
thinking,
and
this
is
just
kind
of
an
extreme
example,
but
say,
for
instance,
because
of
the
last
hundred
years
of
minneapolis
history.
We
didn't
put
any
money
at
all
into
parks
where
there
were
medium
to
higher
level
incomes
and
so
for
the
next
20
years.
T
All
of
the
money
went
into
the
areas
where
there's
low
to
you
know
lower
incomes
and
then,
and
the
parks
in
south
minneapolis
that
had
those
assets
would
suffer
right,
but
take
it
think
about
using
the
whole
park
budget
for
the
next
10
years.
Just
doing
things
in
lower
income
neighborhoods
and
how
much
more
could
be
done
help
me
here.
P
Sure
so
maybe
there,
maybe
maybe
I'll
share
kind
of
a
couple
things,
and
if
I
don't
quite
get
to
what
you're
asking
then
then
chair
strand
can
perhaps
allow
a
follow-up.
So
if
we
talk
about
the
longevity
of
existence
of
assets
in
parks,
let's
say
there's
a
park
that
has
had
a
playground
for
a
hundred
years
versus
a
park
where
we
just
built
one
five
years
ago.
P
P
That
reality
doesn't
actually
correlate
to
race
or
income
in
the
city,
because
some
of
our
oldest
parks
and
oldest
assets
are
scattered
around
the
city
in
a
pretty
haphazard
way.
So,
for
instance,
though,
parks
some
of
our
smaller
north
side
parks
like
cleveland
and
willard,
did
come
online
later,
the
three
big
ones
on
the
north
side
falwell
far
view
and
north
commons
were
some
of
our
earliest
parks.
P
P
So,
on
the
north
side,
you
have
those
three
big
parks,
pretty
much,
maybe
harrison.
You
count
a
fourth,
but
all
the
other
parks
are
much
smaller
and
often
don't
occupy
entire
blocks.
It's
because
those
neighborhoods
at
that
time
could
not
afford
to
buy
those
entire
parks,
whereas
in
the
south
and
southwest.
When
you
look
at
pershing
and
linden
hills,
they're
all
nice
big
squares
right.
P
P
So
that's
just
that's
just
sort
of
curiosity
for
everyone's
sake-
and
this
is
this-
is
written
up
actually
in
our
comprehensive
plan.
So
so
you
can,
you
can
read
about
it
more.
I
will
say
in
our
equity
metrics.
We
are
looking
back
at
least
the
last
15
years,
which
is
what
we
can
reliably
track
and
we
are
investing
in
those
parks
that
have
not
had
investment
in
the
last
15
years.
P
T
No,
no,
I
think
that
that's
really
really
great
background.
That's
actually
really
interesting
and
answers
a
lot
of
questions
so
to
tag
on
to
what
amity
had
asked
the
community
engagement.
I
know
when
I
came,
you
know
I
live
in
the
fallen
neighborhood,
so
we
participated
a
lot
when
you
were
working
on
the
fallwell
park
and
and
then
we
went
when
you
had
all
the
parks
together
and
it
was
farther
down.
T
So
we
went
and-
and
so
this
is
kind
of
two
questions,
because
it
kind
of
surprised
me-
we
were
the
only
ones
representing
falwell
park.
I
didn't,
and
so
somebody
in
the
mix
in
the
room
thought
that
fall
war
park
shouldn't
have
the
tennis
courts,
I'm
sure
you
know
there
was
one
person
in
particular
in
the
neighborhood
that
fought
really
hard
for
those
tennis
courts,
and
so
this
is
kind
of
two-prong
is
that
people
involved.
I
mean
the
community
engagement.
T
I
know
how
difficult
it
is
in
my
neighborhood
to
engage
the
community
and
when
we
went
to
the
community
engagement
opportunities,
the
people
that
showed
up
did
not
look
like
my
neighbor
did
not
look
like
the
residents
in
fall.
Neighborhood
right
it
was.
There
were
a
higher
percentage
of
white
people
that
had
input
older
people
because
it's
not
like
we
have
anything
else
to
do.
But
how
do
you?
How
do
you
get
the
community
engagement
to
look
like
the
neighborhood
that
that
park
represents.
P
Yeah,
that's
a
it's
a
it's
a
good
question.
It
is
something
that
we
struggle
with,
and
we've
tried
to
improve
practices
over
time.
I
am.
I
am
certainly
not
going
to
claim
perfection
in
every
or
any
case,
but
a
couple
things
that
I'll
point
out
is
number
one
I
think
you
know
and
and
trina
I
do.
I
do
believe.
I
remember
you
from
the
north
service
area
master
plan.
I
think
we
had
some
conversations
about
falwell
and
other
parks.
P
So
it's
good
to
see
you
again,
those
organized
events,
the
kind
of
big
open
houses,
the
traditional
evening
meeting
that
you
may
have
attended.
That's
not
all
that
we
do
so.
There
was
other
engagement
taking
place
that
you
may
not
have
seen.
P
We
also
would
have
like
set
up
shop
for
an
afternoon
in
the
gym
at
falwell,
which
which
gives
us
a
demographic
that
definitely
skews
younger
for
starters
and
and
also
maybe
more
representative
racially
of
the
neighborhood
around
that
park.
So
we're
doing
a
broad
brush
effort
and
it's
not
just
those
open
houses
that
guide
our
decision,
making
we're
balancing
that
with
a
lot
of
other
events
that
we
we
do
a
lot
of
pop-ins.
P
So
we
put
the
project
on
hold.
That
was
opposed
by
the
nearby
community,
but
we
did
it
anyways
in
order
to
do
another
round
of
engagement,
because
when
we
did
that
assessment
that
mid
project
assessment,
we
hadn't
met
our
goals.
Yet
so
those
techniques
that
I'm
sharing
with
you
are
part
of
a
racial
equity
toolkit
that
we
have
customized
and
embedded
into
our
community
engagement
plans
that
we
write
for
every
project.
P
So
the
principles
of
a
racial
equity
toolkit
include
doing
a
demographic
analysis
on
the
front
end,
setting
up
milestones
on
the
back
end
where
you
evaluate
it
and
then
circling
back
around.
If
you
didn't
hit
your
goals,
and
so
we
we
do
that
for
basically
every
project.
We
write
a
community
engagement
plan
for
every
project
and
it
embeds
that
that
technique
again,
not
saying
that
we're
perfect.
P
It's
not
what
I'm
claiming,
but
I
I
think
we're
trying
to
continue
to
move
the
needle
and
if-
and
we
are
always
open
to
additional
ideas,
to
push
the
engagement
that
we
do.
T
No,
you
guys
did
a
really
good
job,
but
I'll
probably
send
you
an
email
on
something
else
that
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about,
but
thank
you
very
much.
It
was
really
helpful.
R
Okay
good
afternoon,
mr
evans,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
that
presentation
that
you
put
on
it
was
very
detailed
and
very
helpful
and
I'll
have
to
review
it
a
few
more
times.
R
I
have
three
questions,
but
I
thought
I
might
just
ask
one
question
and
then
let
it
go
back
to
the
group
and
as
it
cycles
through
other
people,
I'll
I'll,
ask
the
other
ones
when
there's
a
chance,
something
that's
come
up
periodically
within
click
is
looking
at
the
different
cbrs
and
taking
a
look
at
the
project
details
about
whoa.
R
You
know
the
level
of
need
the
department
of
priority.
It's
basically
the
first
paragraph
on
the
project,
details
thing
and
perhaps
some
as
to
on
the
project,
location
and
the
prior
to
year
of
bond
authorization
amounts.
R
And
I
guess
it's
come
up.
I've
thought
about
doing
this
for
myself,
but
I
think
other
people
brought
it
up
where,
if
we
had
just
a
simple
spreadsheet
that
just
you
know
had
the
project
name
and
the
you
know
start
date,
the
ongoing
whether
it's
an
ongoing
program,
yes
or
no
and
just
the
stuff-
that's
there.
But
it's
just
in
a
concise
sheet
that
we
could
go
through
and
just
skim.
It
would
be
helpful.
P
Yeah,
so
so
dan,
when
I,
when
I
build
all
these
cpr
requests,
I
kind
of
have
that
spreadsheet.
It's
not
exactly
that
simple,
but
but
in
order
you
know
I
have
a
prioritization
list
because
I
have
to
I
have
to
make
my
priorities
and
have
to
look
at
all
the
projects
together.
So
what
what
you're
asking
for
is
kind
of
what
I'm
using
in
order
to
then
split
it
up
into
all
these
different
projects.
P
If
that's
something
that
you'd
like
me
to
pull
together,
maybe
through
the
committee
or
through
neil
young
hens,
you
can
say
exactly
kind
of
what
data
points
you
want
to
see
like
what
columns
on
the
spreadsheet
and
I
can
pull
that
together.
But
but
of
course
you
know
operationally,
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
that
the
finance
staff,
I'm
I'm
gonna,
pause,
because
I'm
actually
I'm
actually
seeing
neil's
raising.
So
maybe.
B
Yeah,
I
was
gonna
say
I
think
we
could
put
together
something
like
that.
I
think
we
have
to
talk
more
details.
What
it
is
because
there
is
there
are,
I
think,
140
cbrs
this
year.
So
I
think
I
think
we'd.
If
we
wanted
to
put
something
together,
I
think
we'd
want
to
take
only
one
pass
at
putting
together
like
a
larger
spreadsheet.
So
I
think
I
have
to
get
some
more
details.
R
H
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
arvidsson,
so
I
I
have
an
easy
question
and
then
a
question
that
might
be
really
easy.
The
first
question
has
to
do
with
the
disease
trees
budget,
so
you
consistently
hold
that
flat
going
out
to
the
year
into
2028
is
is,
is,
is
that
just
would
that
clear?
The
I
this
sounds
awful
the
backlog
or
is:
is
there
anything
more
interesting
to
that
budget
than
simply
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
so
that
that's
an
easy
question?
H
The
the
other
question
which
you
can
run
on
your
other
processor
is
upper
harbor
terminal,
19.5,
acres
of
upper
harbor
terminal
work,
and
I
don't
know
where
to
find
it
in
your
cbrs
is.
Is
that
simply
not
going
to
be
part
of
your
your
budget
into
the
future
or
is?
Is
there?
Are
you
providing
for
that
project
elsewhere?.
P
Sure
yeah
both
thank
you
both
of
those
are
fairly
easy
questions,
but
important
ones.
The
the
we
actually
increased
the
park
dt
program
this
year
from
300
to
800..
So
you
are
you,
are
it
historically
has
been
300,
and
so
that
was
increased.
So
we
are,
we
are
recognizing
the
a
greater
need
with
regard
to
upper
harbor
terminal
upper
harbor
terminal
is
within
a
regional
park
area.
It
is
within
the
above.
P
P
However,
the
park
board
is
allocating
a
full
six
million
dollar
match
to
the
six
million
dollar
state
bond
for
parks
for
that
project.
For
the
first
phase
of
implementation,
it
just
doesn't
it's
not
local
money,
if
that
makes
sense,
and
the
big
reason
that
we
do
not
invest
local
tax
dollars
into
the
regional
park
system
is
because
the
state
consistently
underfunds
its
obligation
to
the
regional
park
system
and
has
done
so
since
1974..
P
It
is
not
on
the
local
taxpayers
of
minneapolis
to
make
up
a
statutory
failing
by
the
state.
The
state,
for
instance,
is
required
by
statute
to
fund
40
percent
of
the
maintenance
of
the
regional
park
system.
That
number
is
currently
at
about
a
10
percent
reimbursement.
H
P
P
Those
are
dollars
that
you
that
that
you
don't
see
they
I
can
make
the
I
mean
those
dollars
are
in
our
cip,
so
they're
they're
they're
visible
to
everyone,
but
they
don't
run
through
a
cbr
great.
E
Thank
you
so
with
my
last
question,
and
perhaps
some
of
these
I
know
I'm
asking
things
that
in
some
cases
you've
addressed
in
the
video,
and
so
I
appreciate
your
indulgence
on
that
part
of
that
is
because
I
think
some
of
these
issues
are
important
to
highlight
and
flesh
out
in
the
full
committee
meeting.
So
with
that,
there's
and
my
this
question
won't
surprise.
You
adam
from
my
history,
there's
a
couple
of
projects
that
have
some
fairly
large
outstanding
bond
authorizations.
So
I
was
hoping
you
could
quickly
address
them.
P
My
mouse
is
suddenly
acting
very
weird,
yes
I'll
start
with
prk
38,
which
is
sibley
park,
which
is
also
likely
to
undergo
a
name
change
for
those
of
you
who,
whose
skin
crawls
at
the
name
of
the
park
sibley
had
an
allocation
under
the
old
non-equity
cip,
and
that
allocation
was
large
enough
that
it
was
given
the
prk38
project.
P
So
now,
sibley
has
come
into
the
cip
again
as
an
equity
project,
so
we're
using
that
same
number
for
two
different
phases
of
implementation
of
sibley.
The
first
phase
will
be
under
construction
later
this
fall
and
that
will
expend
the
entirety
of
that
unspent
bond.
So
that's
where
that
project
is.
We
are
finishing
community
engagement
as
we
speak
and
we'll
be
under
construction
in
the
fall.
P
Prko2
is
the
playground
rehabilitation
program.
Again
we
tend
to
be
running
realistically,
and
this
is
the
case
of
the
the
prk
cp
also,
which
is
all
the
implementation
projects
that
aren't
as
high
as
a
million
dollars.
P
We
tend
to
be
running
basically
about
exactly
one
year
behind
at
the
moment,
and
the
reason
I
say
one
year
behind
is
that
you're,
seeing
a
lot
of
2021
money
that
has
not
been
expended
when
we
initiate
a
project
in
2021
under
the
best
case
scenario,
that
project
would
go
under
construction
in
2022,
largely
because
of
the
amount
of
community
engagement.
We
must
do
which
takes
the
better
part
of
a
year,
and
then
we
want
to
be
bidding
in
winter,
not
like
putting
things
out
for
bid
in
the
fall.
P
So
in
the
best
case
scenario,
those
those
monies
would
be
expended
in
2022.
So
if
you're
seeing
them
now
under
the
2023
request,
we're
basically
about
one
year
behind
and
there's
a
couple
of
outliers
that
that
sit
in
there
that
are
that
are
have
been
a
little
bit
problematic
for
us
that
are
sort
of
gumming
up
the
works,
shall
I
say
so,
for
instance,
in
the
park
cp
project
there's
a
splash
pad
at
victory
park,
which
we've
bid
that
project
multiple
times
and
have
not
been
able
to
get
competitive
bids.
P
P
We
also
are
simply
number
one
still
kind
of
recovering
from
the
pandemic
in
terms
of
community
engagement.
P
It
slowed
community
engagement
on
projects
way
down
and
made
them
take
longer,
and
then
the
other
piece
I
will
note
is
that
over
the
past
four
years,
the
number
of
planning
staff
in
the
planning
division
has
been
cut
for
budget
reasons,
and
so
we
have
fewer
people
to
implement
the
projects
and,
and
meanwhile
the
project
numbers
have
not
gone
down
in
terms
of
the
park.
Rp
the
rehabilitation
one.
Let
me
click
a
different
thing
here
and
and
give
some
insight
on
that.
P
The
question
is
that
we
do
have
some
older,
smaller
operations
facilities
that
we
may
decommission
so
spending
money
on
them
now,
wouldn't
wouldn't
be
responsible
once
that
operations
facilities
plan
is
done,
this
rehab
money
gets
spent
pretty
quickly
because
there's
not
there's
not
really
much
community
engagement.
We
do
some
inform
level
community
engagement
when
we're
replacing
those
things,
but
those
projects
roll
out
pretty
quickly.
So
that's
some
general
insight.
I
could
take
specific
questions
if
you
want.
E
So,
just
a
quick
follow-up
on
that.
Thank
you.
I
always
appreciate
that
you
give
you
know
substantive
answers
that
that
help
explain
this
stuff.
I
don't
think
we
wouldn't
be
doing
our
job
responsibly.
If
we
didn't
at
least
check
in
on
these
things,
you
know
some
of
it.
I
understand
it's
just
the
nature
of
how
this
this
stuff
works,
and
I
just
I
asked
this
of
art
an
hour
ago,
and
I
think
you
know
the
same
may
apply
here.
E
I
just
wonder
if
there's
no
way
that
click
can
work
with
you
in
finance
to
figure
out,
if
there's
a
better
way
to
do
the
actual
authorizing
of
this
stuff,
so
it
you're
not
at
risk
of
losing
any
of
your
funding.
You
still
get
the
allocations
you
need.
We
just
match
the
timing
of
the
need
better
to
the
authorizing
of
the
of
the
bonds.
P
Q
Yeah
thanks,
I
have
a
question
about
stemmed
actually
from
the
loring
park
project.
There
you
know
looked
at
the
master
plan
noted
that
there
was
like,
even
though
that
is
a
major
pass-through
for
cyclists
and
for
walkers
moving
for
pedestrians
moving
from
southwest
minneapolis
to
downtown.
Q
There
wasn't
a
lot
of
detail
on
like
how
do
you
assess
pavement
condition
for
non-roads
that
I
saw
in
there
that
you
have
expected
useful
life?
For
you
know,
buildings
play
areas,
courts
athletic
fields,
but
I
didn't
see
pavement
on
there.
Could
you
speak
to
that.
P
Sure,
I
I
sure
can
so
under
the
npp
20
ordinance
we're
required
to
look
at
asset
condition
and
longevity
and
value
of
five
major
assets
in
the
parks
and
those
are
courts,
athletic
fields,
buildings,
aquatics
and
play
areas.
P
However,
there
are
many
more
kinds
of
amenities
in
parks,
the
so-called
small
amenities
that
still
mean
a
lot
to
a
lot
of
people.
P
P
P
P
As
we
get
things
up
to
snuff,
that
pavement
rehabilitation
fund
is
starting
to
turn
toward
looking
at
our
courts,
which
is
also
an
amenity
that
is
in
pretty
that
are
in
pretty
bad
shape
across
our
system
overall.
So
that's
the
the
sort
of
neighborhood
park
pavement
condition
index
on
in
the
regional
park.
It
works
a
little
bit
differently,
but
I
guess
the
simple
answer
to
the
question:
is
you
know?
P
Yes,
we
we've
done
pavement
assessments
and
we
have
addressed
most
of
the
worst
facilities
in
most
of
the
worst
trail
and
sidewalk
segments
in
our
system.
Already.
Q
It
would
be
awesome
to,
and
I
like
I
don't-
want
to
go
down
a
rabbit,
hole
and
request
a
lot
of
data,
but
to
get
a
better
sense
of
that.
Prioritization.
Q
Just
reflecting
on
areas
that
I
I
see
of
need
and
I'm
kind
of
shocked
that
you're
saying
that
you're
almost
to
the
end
of
that
and
it's
kind
of
surprised
that
some
areas
haven't
been
addressed.
P
Yeah,
no,
let
me
let
me
ask
our
asset
management
group
about
the
ease
of
transmitting
that
payment
condition,
index
data,
and-
and
I
can
I
can
reconnect
on
that-
I'm
just
I
don't
deal
directly
with
that
data,
so
I
don't
know
the
exact
state
that
it's
in,
but
let
me
let
me
look
into
it
awesome.
Thank
you.
B
So
two
things
one
just
like
a
time
check
here,
as
I
know
we're
trying
to
do
a
breakout
session
for
the
human
development
task
force
soon,
but
also
I
was
just
holding
place
for
scott
engel
he's.
It
looks
like
he's
having
some
technical
difficulties.
N
Okay,
yeah
hello,
yeah
adam,
I'm,
I'm
very
interested
in
the
americans
with
disabilities
act,
ada
law
and
how
we
we've
seen
that
public
works,
for
example,
is
really
decades
and
decades
behind
and
implementing
it
and
the
their
capital
requests
are
at
the
pace.
They're
coming
to
us,
it's
going
to
be
30
40
years
or
more
before
they
address
these
issues.
N
I'm
curious
is
there
any
of
this
ada
data
that
gets
as
part
of
the
equity
measurements
and
it
seems
like
you
are-
the
park
board-
is
doing
a
reasonably
good
job
of
kind
of
catching
up
on
the
ada
stuff.
I
have
noticed
the
improved
trails,
for
example,
and
accessible
restrooms,
some
of
that
stuff
in
recent
years.
N
P
Yeah
fair
question:
I
couldn't
say
right
now
whether
we
have
a
date
for
catching
up
on
everything,
that's
considered
in
our
ada
transition
plan.
So
so
we
do
have
an
ada
transition
plan
that
does
itemize
every
ada
issue
across
our
system
for
parks.
P
It
can
be
a
little
weird
because
there's
technically
no
ada
requirements
for
trails
and
we
have
a
lot
of
trails,
so
we
we
try
to
still
deal
with
it,
even
though
there's
there's
technically
no
requirement,
but
we
do
have
one
of
our
10
rehabilitation
funds
in
the
park.
Rp
project
does
allocate
about
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
specifically
to
ada
only
projects.
P
In
addition,
I
think
you
can
assume
that
almost
every
single
one
of
our
capital
projects
across
the
cbr
is
going
to
make
an
ada
improvement.
So
if
we
replace
an
old
playground,
we
will
be
updating
that
playground
itself
to
current
or
exceeding
current
ada
guidelines.
P
In
addition
to
often
the
walkways
and
trails
and
pedestrian
ramps
that
provide
access
to
that
playground
same
with
wading
pools
every
time
we
do
a
wading
pool,
the
waiting
pool
will
have
a
zero
depth
entry,
which
makes
it
ada
compliant
and
frankly,
user
friendly
for
everybody.
P
So
we've
been
thinking
about
largely
the
accessible
route
from
a
parking
lot
all
the
way
into
the
building
and
to
the
restroom,
and
that
varies
in
each
building
that
we
look
at,
but
I
think
the
improvements
that
you've
seen
and
have
cited
in
your
question
specifically
with
regard
to
restrooms,
that's
been
a
particular
focus
for
us,
but
I'm
sorry,
I
can't
not
being
the
park
boards
ada
coordinator.
I
can't
tell
you
if
there
is
a
potential
timeline
for
when
things
would
be
so
and
so
so
to
speak.
Complete.
N
N
So
I'm
maybe
asking
you
to
go
back
to
it
and
ask
your
staff
at
the
park
board
to
go
back
to
it
and
compare
what
is
said
in
this
document.
That's
probably
gathering
dust
and
try
to
figure
that
out,
and
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
information
in
future
cbrs
to
say
you
know
we
are
actually
catching
up
on
this.
All
our
restrooms
are
are
accessible.
I
mean
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
relatively
easy
to
measure
right.
N
You
should
be
able
to
count
that
same
thing
with
if
you
can't
get
in
the
front
door
of
a
building,
which
I
know
of
a
couple-
recreation,
centers,
they're,
still
not
accessible
because
of
the
weird
doors
I
mean,
that's
if
you're
not
getting
to
that
for
20
years.
That
seems
ridiculous.
P
I
think
that's
a
fair,
that's
a
fair
point,
that's
something
I
can
look
into,
and
I
do
want
to
say
that
that
our
ada
transition
plan
isn't
gathering
dust
on
a
shelf
every
time
a
capital
project
launches.
So
if
we
look
at,
you
know
cbr,
you
know
prko42
when
that
project
launches
in
that
park.
The
project
manager
goes
and
pulls
all
the
ada
items
for
that
park
and
tries
to
figure
out
how
many
of
them
they
can
check
off
as
a
part
of
their
capital
project.
P
N
One
last
comment:
you
guys
are
always
or
your
presentations
are
always
just
amazing,
so
I
think
somebody
said
this:
you
guys
do
you're
the
gold
standards.
So
if
I'm
asking
a
tough
question,
it's
only
because
I
don't
think
even
public
works
is
prepared
to
answer
anything
this
complex.
So
thank
you.
M
Hello
adam,
so
I
watched
your
presentations
and
have
been
interested
in
the
issue
of
the
relationship
between
click
and
the
parks
board
for
the
funding.
I
pretty
much
can't
say
I
would
disagree
with
anything
that
I
saw
I
seem
to
feel
like.
I
understand
the
process
and
the
limitations
we're
working
with,
but
what
I
haven't
heard
anybody
really
say
today
is:
what
do
you
guys
want
from
click?
M
So
if
there's
you
know
anything
at
all,
you
can
ask
to
really
justify
giving
rankings
and
attention
if
everything's
said
and
done,
and
it's
all
wrapped
up
good
for
me,
I'm
happy
to
accept
that.
I
have
no
issues
with
any
of
the
details,
but
I
would
like
to
know
if
I'm
going
to
be
spending
time
on
this.
What
is
it
you
can
do
with
it?
What
is
it
you
want
out
of
it.
P
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
question,
rich
and-
and
I
I
hope
that
you
know
the
the
group
today
and
the
group
that
I've
been
speaking
to
for
for
a
bunch
of
years
now
can
both
see
that,
though
there
are
some
constraints
with
what
the
relationship
between
the
park
board
and
the
city
and
click
are
that
that
I
still
I
still
really
honor
and
appreciate
the
knowledge
and
the
ideas
that
this
group
brings
forward.
P
So,
in
the
past
things
that
the
park
board
does
as
standard
practice
now
came
directly
from
click
and
most
notably
the
way
that
we
sort
of
standardize
funding
in
parks
so
that
we're
not
picking
random
numbers
out
of
a
hat
so
that
similar
parks
are
getting
the
similar
allocations.
That
came
from
click
asking
me
questions
about.
P
So
what
I
appreciate
from
click-
and
I
guess
if
I
could,
if
I
if
I
could
be
so
bold-
what
I
would
like
from
click-
is
some
real
systems
change
thinking.
It
may
not
be
possible
in
this
context.
P
For
you
to
say,
we
want
project
a
over
project
b,
but
the
question
of
how
do
they
come
in
to
click?
How
do
they
come
into
the
cip?
What
are
the
numbers?
What
are
we
doing
right?
What
can
we
improve
on
the
system's
thinking
that
allows
me
to
change
practice
as
I
develop
my
cip
and
as
I
put
together,
my
cbrs,
that's
really
helpful,
and
today
I've
already
got.
J
P
Few
things
you
know
jeff
bernstein
talked
about
like
is
there
a
way
that
the
timing
that
I
can
think
differently
about
the
timing
so
that
it
is
maybe
a
little
more
advisory?
I'm
I'm
willing
to
look
at
that.
The
comment
that
just
came
in
about
having
a
clear
vision
for
when
are
we
going
to
get
through
all
of
the
restrooms
and
making
them
ada
accessible
and
if
it's
taking
too
long,
maybe
we
need
to
put
more
rehab
money
into
that
category.
P
That's
super
helpful,
so
I
think
there's
some
systems
change
things
that
if
you
have
that
stuff,
if
there's
still
an
open
question
about
how
exactly
we're
doing
something.
That's
that's
where
that's
where
I
want
to
answer
the
tough
questions
and
if
I
don't
have
an
answer
like
I
didn't,
have
an
answer
about
this
ada
question
earlier.
P
That
always
leaves
in
my
mind
like
how
do
we
get
that
answer
and
then
how
does
it
change
our
practice
so
that
that's
that's
kind
of
where
I
am
and
it's
and
it's
why
I
want
to
be
as
transparent
as
possible,
because
the
more
you
know
about
how
our
system
works?
R
Okay,
do
you
hear
me?
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
This
is
perhaps
a
little
bit
out
of
the
the
clicks
purview,
but
in
your
presentation,
adam,
you
had
mentioned
6.5
to
10.5
annually,
going
into
regional
parks
and
trails,
and
I
know.
K
J
R
Interesting
to
know
in
some
version
how
the
public
understands
what
is
getting
work
done
within
that
it
would
just
be
interesting
to
have
some
format
to
do
that,
and
I
just
wanted
to
complement
the
rehabilitation
program
or
that's
that
worked
on
the
rehabilitation
of
the
trails.
R
This
past
fall
that
took
care
of
much
of
the
victory
memorial
drive
and
down
by
the
lakes
down
by
cal
by
mcaska,
and
I
think
that
was
really
a
smart
thing
to
try
to
get
at
some
of
these
trails
before
they're,
just
totally
toast
and
to
be
able
to
develop
a
program
that
actually
the
city
this
year
is
implementing
something
similar
to
cpr.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that
and
the
question
is:
how
can
we
learn
more
about
how
what
is
getting
spent
annually
on
regional
parks
and
trails.
P
Yeah
I
I
can
give
I
can
give
a
real
quick
kind
of
a
regional
park
primer
and-
and
if
you
want
more,
we
we
we
can
have
a.
We
can
have
coffee
sometime.
So
the
the
capital
money
for
the
regional
parks
comes
from
the
state
and
the
met
council
through
three
basic
sources.
P
We
get
money
from
the
constitutional
amendment,
the
tax
constitutional
amendment
we
get
money
from
the
lottery
and
we
get
money
from
state
and
regional
bonding.
So
the
state
bonds
for
regional
parks
and
the
met
council
matches
that
every
other
year,
the
amount
we
get
is
determined
by
a
formula
written
into
state
statute.
P
That
decides
how
that
money
is
all
divvied
up
between
the
10
different
agencies
that
are
responsible
for
the
regional
park
system.
Those
10
so-called
implementing
agencies
are
basically
us
in
the
city
of
saint
paul
and
a
bunch
of
the
metro
counties
and
through
rivers
park
district.
So
we
get
divvied
up
depending
on
our
usership
the
amount
of
acreage
we
have
so
there's
a
whole
formula
once
we
know
how
much
money
we
have
the
park
board.
Actually,
still,
we
use
an
equity
metric
for
regional
parks
similar
to
but
different
than
the
one
for
neighborhood.
P
We
use
an
equity
metric
that
we've
written
into
our
own
ordinances
in
order
to
select
which
regional
parks
will
have
investment
and
then
once
a
park
is
in
our
cip.
We
do
a
very
similar
process
like
we
do
to
neighborhood
parks.
We
go
out.
We
engage
the
community,
we
first
ask
what
things
should
we
implement
based
on
the
master
plan,
and
then
we
implement
those
projects,
so
our
engagement
process
is
is
very
similar
to
to
what
we
do
in
the
neighborhood
parks.
P
P
P
I
Okay,
we
have
one
more
question
from
kdk
will
be
the
last
question
so
that
we
can
have
our
breakout
session
katie.
Q
Yeah,
I
have
a
question
about
the
parkway
paving
program
in
there.
It
in
the
map
indicates
that
essentially,
the
mall
in
uptown
is
scheduled
for
paving
in
in
2025
to
2028..
I
just
want
to
clarify
so
that
was
part
of
the
southwest
service
area
master
plan.
There
won't
just
be
a
repaving,
as
is
it
will
be
in
regard,
I
mean,
depending
upon
the
amount
of
funding,
of
course,
but
but
there
will
be
steps
taken
to
actually
implement
the
the
master
plan
correct
in
that
place.
P
Yeah,
that's
correct,
we're
actually
doing
it
now.
The
county
and
city
both
have
major
projects
in
the
mall,
some
utility
work
under
the
mall
and
the
county
is
going
to
be
underway.
Now
I
think
they've
gotta
forget
whether
I
think
they've
got
a
big
sanitary
under
there,
that
they're
redoing
and
the
county
will
be
restoring
the
condition
to
the
master
plan,
condition
not
rebuilding
the
road.
P
I
P
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
willie
thanks
everybody
for
your
for
your
time
for
your
ongoing
service.
You
know
mary
said
it
too,
but
you
you
have
a
big
job
and
a
hard
job,
and
I
and
I
and
I
know
the
relationship
with
the
park
board-
is
a
little
weird
it's
different
than
with
the
other
cities,
city
departments.
But
I
I
appreciate
all
the
thinking
that
comes
out
of
this
group.
I
I
really
do
and
we
take
it
to
heart
and
we
we
do
make
process
changes
as
we
go
along.
P
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
exploring
some
of
the
things
that
were
raised
up
today
as
possible
process
changes,
then
I
wish
you
all
the
best
of
luck
as
you
as
you
take
on
the
difficult
job
of
of
of
working
through
the
budget.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time
and
service.
I
Thank
you.
Okay,
with
that,
we
have
completed
all
items
on
the
agenda
for
this
meeting,
with
the
exception
of
the
task
force,
breakout
rooms,
members
of
the
human
development
task
force
remain
in
this
meeting,
and
members
of
the
transportation
task
force
should
be
automatically
redirected
to
a
breakup
room
on
teams.
If
you
get
disconnected
please
rejoin
the
main
meeting
and
staff
will
get
you
to
the
correct
breakup
room
last
members,
members
and
staff,
if
there
are
any
other
matters
to
come
before
this
meeting,.
I
H
H
Okay
task
force:
why
don't
we
wait
here
until
I
believe
neil
is
going
to
be
returning
to
you
join
us.
I
I
J
I
H
Okay,
who
just
spoke.
I
D
U
V
H
W
J
W
V
Okay,
one
more
time,
please
sorry.
U
V
So
I
don't
see
anything
on
my
screen
that
says
that
I
can
do
that
or
should
do
that.
I'm
looking
through
the
settings.
V
Okay,
I
did
not
get
that
prompt
unless
it,
if
there's
somewhere,
special,
that
it
would
show
up
I'll
I'll
look.
But
I
just
see
like
right
now.
I
just
see
all
of
the
folks
lined
up
at
the
bottom
of
this
screen,
and
you
know
folks
faces.
V
U
H
Yeah,
why
don't
we
get
started
here
so
welcome
everyone
back
if
you're
in
the
wrong
room,
just
set
okay,
great
we're
we
we're
able
to
get
started
here.
So
our
task
and
again
I
want
to
recognize
willie
bridges
is
with
us.
He
is
the
vice
chair
of
the
entire
click.
So
we're
glad
to
have
him
with
us
to
provide
us
with
insights
if
we
need
extra
help
here.
H
So
our
first
test
is
going
to
be,
as
we
did
last
year
to
to
describe
the
ranges
of
scoring
that
we
want
to
use
on
the
various
cbds
before
we
go
there,
I'm
sorry
cbrs
before
we
go
there
did
everyone
have
an
opportunity,
even
if
you
haven't
read
them
in
great
depth
to
to
look
at
the
the
requests,
the
cbrs,
if
you've
had
trouble
accessing
them
or
have
not
had
a
chance
to
try
that
link?
J
H
Great
great,
so
I'm
gonna
follow
the
instructions
that
I
I
got
from
neil
so
that
we
are
working
at
the
same
pace
and
the
same
direction
that
that
john
is
working.
H
Okay,
we
don't
have
much
time
justin.
What
what
do
we
want
to
get
done
today
to
stay
on
track.
U
Yep
the
goal
is,
as
we've
seen,
art
in
public
places
and
park
board.
Cbr
is
presented,
you've
reviewed
their
presentations
and
then
have
this
q
a
session.
The
focus
of
human
development
task
force
is
to
look
at
the
two
art
cpr
that
are
on
your
screen
and
then
we'll
go
through
park
board
and
to
give
a
recommended
range
from
this
task
force
directing
all
members
of
click
on
your
suggestions
for
where
they
should
score
the
project.
U
So,
ultimately,
we'll
look
at
project
priority,
the
level
of
need
and
the
contribution
to
city
goals
and
from
this
task
force
you'll
say
we
recommend
that
members
rate
within
this
point
range
members
are
still
allowed
to
score
outside
of
that
range.
It's
just
strongly
recommended
by
the
task
force
that
you
stick
within
that
recommendation.
U
So
what
I
have
on
the
screen
is
r01
was
previously
submitted.
So
an
x
is
marked
on
where
this
task
force
recommended
last
year
that
click
members
put
a
rating
and
then
our
go
2
is
new,
so
we
don't
have
last
year's
as
a
guide,
and
our
recommendation
to
the
task
force
chairs
was
to
facilitate
open
conversation
about.
Do
you
want
to
start
with
last
year's
as
a
benchmark
and
possibly
modify
it
see
what
that
discussion
is
and
if
it's
pretty
much
consensus
amongst
the
group
to
just
indicate?
That
is
what
you
want.
U
H
H
Great
and
okay,
so
so
I'm
gonna
make
a
recommendation,
not
necessarily
on
this,
but
on
our
review
today
we
have
probably
three
times
as
many
cbrs
as
we
did
last
year
because
of
the
way
they
split
it
up.
So
what
I
I
I
I'd
like
to.
H
Let's
see
I'd
like
to
make
a
suggestion.
This
is
not
emotion,
we'll
open
up
for
motion
later.
I
would
suggest
that
we
take
art
zero
one
and
unless
anyone
would
like
to
discuss
it,
we
we
can
continue
to
use
the
scoring
that
we
did
last
year.
Are
there
any?
Does
anyone
want
to
discuss
art,
101,
art,
01
katrina,.
T
Yeah,
you
know
after
I
last
year
doing
all
of
the
investigation
on
where
it
came
from
and
how
it's
going.
Minneapolis
is
quite
behind
in
art
and
public
places,
because
the
mandatory
well
the
budget
anyway
we're
we're
way
behind
minneapolis
likes
to
be
in
the
top
ten
of
everything
and
aren't
in
public
places.
T
We
are
not
also
the
harvard
business
school
did
a
review
on
why
companies
move
to
different
cities
and
art
and
public
places
happens
to
be
an
a
significant
determination
because
it
has
a
lot
to
do
with
culture,
so
I
think
we
should
move
it
up
to
significant.
T
H
Okay,
and
would
you
like
to
talk
to
contributions
to
city
goals
at
the
same
time,.
T
Yeah,
well,
you
know
that
minneapolis
says
it's
like
one
of
the
leading
cities
in
the
country
and
I
mean
aren't
public
places,
we're
not
if
you
just
look
at
the
city
statement.
This
is
one
area
where
I
think
minneapolis
kind
of
falls
down.
H
W
So
I
wouldn't
disagree
about
moving
the
project
priority
to
significant,
but
I
would
put
the
caveat
that
yes,
minnesota
in
minneapolis
likes
to
be
at
the
top
of
all
of
the
ranking,
but
it's
top
of
all
the
ranking
for
those
that
for
white
folks,
I'm
not
sure
sugarcoat
this
year.
So
so
it's
not
so
when
it
comes
to
every
other
representation,
it
minnesota
falls
short
on
a
lot
of
things.
W
I
believe
that
art
is
important
and
is
is
definitely
a
a
boon,
but
I
would
also
say
in,
as
we
go
further
into
conversation
that
there
may
be
other
things
that
may
be
even
more
significant
and
that
should
be
a
priority.
L
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
to
kind
of
also
agree
with
what
jocelyn
said
of
just
being
careful
to
to
realize
that
we're
looking
at
these
things
with
a
closed
universe
of
the
amount
of
funds
and
resources
that
we're
able
to
distribute-
and
I
do
think
public
art
is
important.
But
I
do
think
that
there's
other
things
that
we
should
consider
that
maybe
can
move
the
needle
towards
greater
equity
and
greater
influence
people's
lives
in
other
areas
too.
L
So
just
kind
of
keeping
that
holistic
understanding
and
I
wouldn't
oppose
moving
it
to
significant,
but
also
would
just
want
to
kind
of
keep
that
understanding
in
place.
H
T
Yeah,
if
it's
okay,
you
know
mary
does
a
really
good
job
of
I.
T
I
think,
and
understanding
that
disparity
issue,
by
the
way
that
she
understands
on
really
promoting
the
bipod
community
in
the
arts
and
that
making
sure
that
they
get
the
majority
of
the
funding
going
forward,
and
I
think
because
she
has
an
understanding
of
what
has
happened
in
the
past
in
minneapolis,
that
she
does
a
really
great
job
of
making
sure
that,
from
what
I've
seen,
the
majority
of
the
funding
going
forward
is
for
the
bipod
community
and
then
I'll
shut
up.
After
now,.
H
Okay,
james.
X
Thanks,
I
have
my
video
off
here,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
was
really
helpful
for
me
last
year,
being
my
first
year
on
on
click
last
year.
You
know
the
thinking
about
these
projects
in
relation
to
each
other
is
my
understanding
of
the
rankings.
You
know
how
do
they
relate
to
each
other
and
how
does
that
relate
to
the
whole
budget,
but
I
felt
like
we
did
a
good
job
last
year
with
the
comments
and
to
me
that
really
stood
out.
X
H
So
I
would
like
to
agree
with
james
here
taking
that
off
the
the
chair
hat.
I
I
believe
a
comment
is
an
order
here
that
expresses
more
than
that
places
and
contacts
the
art
as
what
katrina
was
discussing.
H
Art
is
a
vehicle
for
accomplishing
some
of
the
equity
goals
we
may
have
in
the
city
that
correct
some
of
the
historical
as
well
as
cultural
inequities
that
have
evolved
over
time.
So
could
we
have
a
couple
of
volunteers
to
prepare
a
comment
to
that
effect
and
we'll
take
this
to
the
the
larger
body
when
we
reconvene
as
the
click
of
the
hole,
but
if
you'd
like
to
start
on
some
language
here,
or
at
least
some
thoughts,
I
think
would
be
a
good
time
to
make
a
note
to
yourself.
H
Okay,
we
don't
need
volunteers
here.
I
think
we
can
move
on
to
the
upper
harbor
public
art
so
as
as
mary
was
explaining,
the
the
upper
harbor
public
art
effort
is
an
effort.
It
includes
an
effort
to
more
widely
address
the
the
inequity.
H
The
the
equity
issues
that
are
our
city
faces,
that's
partially
historical,
but
also
a
product
of
our
current
activities.
So
I
I
believe
this
gets
a
very
high
score
on
equity.
Is
there
any
discussion
rich?
Please
go
ahead.
M
Just
a
quick
question:
I
missed
it
in
the
presentation
and
somebody
asked,
but
it
wasn't
clear:
does
the
funding
for
art
o2?
Is
that
included
in
the
guaranteed
funding
for
art
all
around?
Was
that
already
factored
in,
or
is
this
considered
a
new
project
that
is
competing
with
roads
and
buildings
and
other
other
other
projects.
B
Yeah
and
sorry
to
interject-
but
this
is
like
above
and
beyond
their
normal
1.5
per
percent
of
the
net
dead
bond,
so
this
is
this
would
be,
I
guess,
like
technically,
in
competition
with
those
other
investments.
M
Okay,
so
our
rankings
for
this
actually
will
make
a
difference.
A
high
ranking
will
assure
that
it
gets
funded
and
a
low
ranking
may
actually
exclude
it
for
for
later
years,
correct.
H
Thank
you,
yep,
okay.
So
what
any
any
further
discussion?
Otherwise,
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
proposal
on
project
priority.
W
L
Hi
yeah
I
just
kind
of
in
looking
at
the
universe
of
art
projects.
I
think
that
and
people
feel
free
to
who
have
better
understanding
of
this
project
contradict
me
here,
but
this
seems
like
kind
of
a
better
goal
of
accomplishing
those
equity
kind
of
things
that
we'd
like
to
accomplish
through
our
projects.
L
So
I
would
just
make
a
note
that
I
think
it
would
be
nice
to
have
this,
maybe
a
little
bit
higher
than
the
other
art
project
just
to
to
kind
of
express
that
priority
from
us.
H
Take
would
you
would
you
like
to
turn
that
into
a
proposal?
One
is
significant,
the
other
critical
one
important
the
other
significant.
How
would
you
like
to
couch
that
yeah.
L
H
Okay,
katrina.
T
So
eamonn,
I'm
just
going
to
address
you
on
this
a
little
bit
so
what's
been
happening
with
the
upper
harper
terminal.
I
kind
of
haven't
been
paying
attention
the
last
six
months,
but
it
really
is
being
pushed
by
local
people,
people
that
live
really
really
close
to
this
area
and
the
neighborhoods
in
this
area
to
really
be
our
not
just
the
north
side,
but
like
lowering
above
there
out
slash
our
there
neighborhood
like
a
neighborhood
park.
T
I
know
it's
a
regional
park
and
it's
a
bigger
project,
but
eric
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
it's
it's
really
look.
People
are
really
looking
at
this
as
being
ours,
the
north
sides,
so
by
by
combining
it
or
making
it
more
important
than
the
art
10
r
one.
I
said,
oh
one,
why
am
I
saying
101,
because
it's
not
a
class,
so
the
ardo
one
is
basically
for
the
city
wide
I
upper
harbor
terminal.
T
H
Yeah,
I
I
think
there
are
various.
If
I
might
this
taken
off
the
chair
hat,
I
think
there
there
are
many
perspectives.
There
are
others
who
believe
that
this
is
a
regional.
This
is
intended
to
be
a
regional
destination,
a
a
place
where,
where
a
reflection
on
underserved
communities
is
broader
than
just
the
north
side,
so
I
yeah-
I
I
think
it's
where
you
stand
depends
on
where
you
sit
or
where
you
sit,
depending
where
you
stand
no
yeah,
you
know
I.
H
H
So
I
I
can
see
eamonn
your
your
perspective,
so
I'm
going
to
put
the
the
vice
chair
on
this.
Oh
she's
raised
her
hands.
You.
H
W
I
think
to
all
the
points
that
have
been
discussed,
that,
and
especially
after
mary,
gave
her
presentation,
it
is
it's
important
to
not,
as
as
katrina
said,
r01
is
city-wide
and
that
the
upper
harbor
terminal
is
important
enough
to
move
it
outside
of
being
collapsed
into
into
that,
and
so
I
think
to
ayman's
point
I
I
was
as
I
was
before
you
all
started
to
talk.
I
was
going
between
significant
and
critical
and
also
listening
to
the
argument
of
possibly
making
it
higher
than
0-1.
W
I
think
that,
because
there
are
already
funds-
and
we
are
that
this
is
a
conversation
that
I'm
fine
with
it
being
I'm
fine
with
it
being
significant.
I
would
argue
that
it
is
because
it
because
of
all
the
things
and,
as
you
said
where
you
sit
where
you
stand,
that
this
is
this-
is
critical.
This
is
go.
This
is
future
forward.
W
H
Okay,
thank
you,
jocelyn.
Any
further
discussion.
H
And
if
I
could
circle
back
eamonn
would
that
meet
your
your
needs.
H
Okay
katrina,
would
you
support
that
hell?
Yes,
okay,
then,
unless
I
hear
any
objections,
we'll
we'll
go
with
that,
so
critical
and
let's
see
justin,
the
art
01
goes
to
from
important
to
significant.
H
Okay,
I
I,
if
anyone
sees,
has
a
disagreement
with
this.
Otherwise
we're
gonna
move
on.
H
Okay,
let's
move
on
to
the
park
system
yeah
make
this
really
big
there
we
go.
So
we
did
not
do
the
budget
last
year
or
in
previous
years
to
such
great
detail,
you
may
have
to
flip
back
and
forth
to
the
cr
cbrs.
H
If
you
don't
know
the
specific
project
that's
being
called
up
here,
could
we
look
if
you
don't
mind,
justin,
just
scroll
right
across
and
look
at
the
project
priorities
for
across
the
board
from
last
year.
U
J
U
H
M
I
have
a
suggestion
here
included
in
this
spreadsheet.
Do
we
have
the
rankings,
as
provided
by
the
park
itself?
I
believe
they've
ranked
all
of
these,
including
the
new
ones.
M
Can
we
just
maybe,
as
a
proposal,
accept
their
rankings
as
they
propose
and
either
give
them
all
the
same,
or
you
know
put
the
top
one
significant
and
the
bottom
one
important
or
desirable,
and
just
sort
of
draw
the
line.
As
we
know
from
the
just
discussion,
we
just
had
these
all
get
funded
anyway.
There's
there's,
there's
no
ranking
we're
going
to
give
them
that's
going
to
make
a
difference,
and
I'm
happy
to
accept
the
proposal
as
presented
by
the
park
board
for
those
rankings.
H
So
I
kitty
katrina.
H
H
Okay,
let
let
me
come
at
this
getting
to
the
same
end
that
rich
and
katrina
proposed
are.
Does
anyone
have
any
strong
feelings
that
would
that
would
not
be
consistent
with
what
we
did
last
year
or
with
what
the
the
park
board
ranked
going
once.
G
Yep
eric,
I
just
want
to
add
in
yeah,
because
I
in
diving
into
what
might
I
didn't
look
at
all
the
details.
I
just
went
over
it.
If
there
possibly
is
one
that
needs
a
highlight,
then
maybe
some
comments
could
be
added.
I
would
agree
with
what
people
have
proposed
here
and
then
we
can
use
our
comments
section
if
there's
something
that
deals
with
equity,
that
we
can
highlight
a
park
and
say
please
make
sure
that
this
park
is
getting
the
proper
attention.
So
I
think
that
comes
up.
G
H
Great
idea,
so
I
have
a
a
proposal
here.
Thor
I'm
not
cornering
you
here,
but
would
you
would
you
be
interested
in
leading
the
development
of
that
comment?
H
It
dives
into
greater
detail
in
those
instances
where
both
generally
in
terms
of
the
equity
question,
but
also
if
anyone
in
this
call
or
in
the
human
development
task
force,
has
views
about
any
of
these
individual
projects
that
we
we
flesh
them
out
in
a
comment.
H
Lead
is
always
great,
okay,
so
john
justin,
I
think
we're
at
the
point
where
we
vote
this
all
up
or
down.
Is
that
correct.
U
Essentially,
if
you
want
to
determine
that
all
of
the
park
board
projects
are
going
to
be
at
a
certain
project
priority
and
contribution
stay
goals.
We
certainly
can
mark
that
up.
We
don't
need
to
vote
today,
if
you
don't
want
to.
If
you
want
to
wait
until
you
have
your
public
grounds
rankings
your
fleet
rankings
and
water
all
of
your
projects
and
do
a
single
vote,
we
certainly
can
do
that
if
you
want
to
do
a
roll
call
on
art
and
park
board,
we
can
facilitate
that
as
well.
We'll
defer
to
you.
H
So
we're
not
in
the
official
meeting
right
now,
so
we
don't
need
a
roll
call.
Were
there
any
of
these
projects
that
did
not
have
a
score
that
we
did
not
rate
in
previous
years.
We
we
need
to
cover
those
there.
You
go
sibley.
M
Yeah
eric.
F
So
I
have
updated
this,
and
since
new
projects
were
added
to
it,
the
ranking
might
actually
correspond
what
you
did
with
the
previous
year,
because
of
the
way
that
the
like,
when
you
insert
cells
or
like
you
know,
move
things
around.
I
can't
promise
that
it
was
the
same
from
last
year.
Okay,.
M
Yes,
the
each
cbr
in
it
contains
a
precise
ranking
that
the
park
board
presented.
Does
this
sheet
reflect
that
ranking.
U
Which
this
is
just
no,
it
does
not.
So
those
rankings
are
on
the
cbrs.
We
don't
incorporate
that
into
this
spreadsheet.
This
would
be
the
task
force
determining
what
your
recommended
range
is.
If
you
want
us
to
put
together
a
complete
list
of
how
the
park
board
ranked
their
projects,
what
my
recommendation
would
be
is
to
give
staff
time
to
prepare
that
for
our
next
meeting.
I
U
As
far
as
how
we
incorporate
that
into
the
spreadsheet,
or
if
we
just
provide
that
and
then
you
all
determine
if
you
want
to
modify
the
recommended
ranges,
we
can
walk
through
that
at
our
next
meeting.
It
is
very
transportation
heavy,
so
I
know
as
we're
already
a
little
bit
over
time.
We
certainly
could
take
our
task
force
time
to
come
back
and
discuss
the
park
further.
With
that
information.
M
Yeah,
I
think
that
was
the
ask
from
the
conversation
a
few
minutes
ago
that
we
take
the
park
board
ranks
and
we
basically
just
reflect
those
on
the
sheet
and
either
you
know
I
mean
we
can
give
a
high
and
low
sort
of
that
corresponds
to
their
own
recommended
rankings.
I
I
would
suggest
this
is
really.
I
would
suggest
to
you
to
do
what
justin
is
saying,
because
I
think
you
got
to
look
at
neighborhoods
and
I
think
they
they
do
look
at
what
we
are
recommending,
because
there
are
certain
neighborhoods
last
time
that
didn't
we
talked
about
that
didn't
get
service,
and
this
year
I
noticed
that
he
mentioned
it
a
little
bit.
So
I
think
it's.
What
justin
is
saying
makes
sense
to
come
back
and
look
at
the
park
board
right.
H
Take
that
okay,
why
don't
we
move
forward
with
that
justin?
Could
we
get
that
list
at
the
next
meeting.
H
Great
anything,
do
we
have
anything
more
to
do
today,
justin.
T
Hey
rich,
you
know
in
their
ranking
the
rankings
kind
of
get
go
along.
Well,
the
rankings
go
along
like
this.
The
sibley
one
was
19
out
of
22..
Well,
they
don't
have
it
planned
for
the
budget
until
2027.,
so
their
rankings
kind
of
go
along
with
where
they've
got
the
money
to
spend.
So
even
if
we
put
it
to
the
same
ranking
they're
not
going
to
be
doing
it
until
2027.
M
Make
sense
yeah
I
mean
that's
the
the
reality
is
the
rankings
are
really
not
going
to
make
a
large
effect
and
that
I
agreed
with
you
and
thor
to
say:
let's
just
you
know,
let's
just
make
this
easy
on
ourselves:
yeah
flat,
flatten
it
out
and
then
save
the
comments
for
highlighting
particular
projects
that
just
need
a
little
more
attention.
H
Okay,
do
we
have
consensus
around
that
any
objections.
H
Okay,
willie
and
justin,
I
believe,
we've
concluded.
What
we
needed
to
do
today
is
that
correct.
I
I
I
just
want
to
throw
a
thing
in
here.
Yes,
we
have
may
21st
that
we
need
people
to
sign
up
for
the
convention.
So
if
you
haven't
signed
up,
please
please
look
at
it
and
see.
If
you
can,
we
need
about
three
or
four
people
for
the
afternoon
of
this
may
21st
neighborhood
community
demand
our
table.
So
if
any
of
you
can
do
that,
that
would
be
much
appreciated.