►
Description
Additional information at:
https://lims.minneapolismn.gov
B
A
Start
now,
okay,
well
welcome
to
those
of
you
who
are
here.
This
is
the
pedestrian
advisory
committee
engineering
subcommittee
meeting
and
I
make
one
announcement.
Members
of
the
board
may
participate
remotely
by
telephone
or
other
electronic
means
due
to
the
local
public
health
emergency
novel
coronavirus
pandemic,
declared
on
march
16
2020
pursuant
to
the
provisions
of
minnesota's
section
statute,
section
13d
021,
so
we
have
one
presenter
today
with
two
two
different
one:
smaller
project
dan
edgerton.
C
Okay,
great
thank
you.
You're
welcome.
I
am
just
gonna
share
my
screen.
I've
got
a
short
powerpoint
slideshow
that
I'd
like
to
go
through
with
you
all
today
before
I
do
think.
Thank
you
all
for
having
me
it's.
It's
been
a
little
while,
since
I've
I've
been
before
you,
but
I
am
a
project
planner,
I'm
actually
a
contractor.
I
work
for
zan
associates,
but
I
work
a
lot
with
public
works
as
in
sort
of
an
extension
of
staff
capacity.
C
So
thanks
again
for
having
me
today,
I'd
like
to
talk
to
you
about
2nd
street
south,
which
is
downtown
kind
of
by
the
guthrie,
and
I've
got
a
project
which
goes
from
2nd
avenue
on
the
west
to
13th
avenue
on
the
east,
and
so
I've
got
maybe
10
slides
I'll
kind
of
go
through
them
quickly,
and
then
I
will
stop
for
for
any
discussion.
Clarifications
questions
things
of
that
nature
that
you
may
have
okay,
so
here's
the
project
overview.
This
is
a
bad
map.
C
C
C
Are
there
other
improvements
that
we
can
make
while
they're
going
in
and
doing
the
pavement
rehab,
so
that
will
include
upgrading
all
of
the
ada
ramps
where
needed,
and
we're
also
going
to
take
a
look
at
evaluating
options
to
do
a
protected,
bikeway,
probably
just
kind
of
paint
and
sticks
type
of
thing.
But
there
are
existing
bike
lanes
on
the
quarter
today.
C
I've
got
some
pictures,
I'll
show
you
and
you
know,
maybe
we
can
make
them
better
and
make
it
a
protected
bikeway
and
then
we're
looking
at
some
spot
intersection
improvements
which,
which
would
make
the
the
crossings
of
the
quarter
work
better
for
people
walking.
So
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
just
a
minute
here,
timeline
process,
stuff,
we're
really
just
kicking
this
thing
off
just
started
in
the
beginning
of
the
year.
C
Do
the
curb
ramp
first
springtime
ish,
then
they
would
come
in
and
do
the
mill
and
overlay
type
of
thing,
and
then
we
would
come
in
afterwards
and
do
striping
and
any
any
other
improvements
that
we
need
to
do
so
a
little
bit
on
existing
conditions.
Second
avenue
you
can
see
from
the
pictures
need
some
work
on
the
pavements
and,
as
I
mentioned,
that's
kind
of
the
impetus
of
the
project.
It
does
have
sidewalks
on
both
sides,
two
parking
lanes,
two
bike
lanes
and
then
two
vehicle
travel
lanes.
C
This
is
an
area
where
there's
been
a
lot
of
residential
development,
so
there
are
some
nicer
sidewalks
that
have
been
replaced.
There
are
some
older
sidewalks
that
are
in
okay
shape
and
then
there
are
some
spot
areas
where
we
need
to
maybe
look
at
some
improvements
where
we
can,
including
curb
ramps,
which
is
one
of
the
things
I
mentioned.
C
There
are
also
for
those
of
you
who've
been
down
there.
Maybe
maybe
you
recognize,
but
what
what
I
call
temporary
medians
in
in
a
couple
of
places
they
look
sort
of
like
this.
The
purpose
of
those
medians
they
were
put
in
a
few
years
ago
is
to
better
manage
traffic
speed
and
to
provide
a
shorter
pedestrian
crossing.
You
know
for
people
going
back
and
forth
between
the
guthrie
or
the
mill
district
museum
and
the
residential
development
on
the
other
side
of
the
corner.
C
So
we've
got
those
temporary
median
configurations
in
two
places:
one
at
park
ave
and
one
at
10th
avenue.
It
kind
of
looks
like
this.
I
put
this
one
in
because
I
I
was
just
out
there
and
it's
kind
of
underwater
right
now,
and
I
thought
that
was
noteworthy,
because
one
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
with
this
project
is
evaluating
opportunities
to
upgrade
these
and
make
them
permanent.
C
You
know
that
could
be
a
floating
meeting
median
type
of
configuration,
but
I'm
going
to
talk
more
about
that
in
just
a
couple
of
slides,
then
there's
this
kind
of
what
I
consider
to
be
a
hairy
intersection
at
2nd
street
and
11th
avenue
about
three
years
ago
there
was
a
project
on
11th
avenue
that
came
and
added
protected
bike
lanes
there
as
part
of
that
project.
They
they
did
a
lot
of
work
on
this
intersection
and
ended
up
with
the
configuration
that
exists
today.
You
can
see
it
in
the
picture.
C
C
I
just
wanted
to
flash
this
one
up
there.
You
know
part
of
the
impetus
for
this
project
is.
This
is
a
one
of
the
few
continuous,
east-west
bikeway
connections
in
the
area.
You
might
you
might
say,
but
what
about
the
recent
washington
avenue
project,
which
has
a
great
bikeway
connection?
It
does,
but
it
doesn't
go
all
the
way
over
to
the
freeway
it
kind
of
stops
midway.
So
this
this
route
second
becomes
sort
of
the
de
facto
east-west
bikeway
connection.
C
Okay,
I
know
I'm
flying
here,
I'm
going
to
stop
talking
soon.
I
promise,
but
so
so
what
is
this
project
going
to
do?
First,
we've
got
to
do
the
pavement
rehabilitation
and
we
are
going
to
do
the
curb
rant
when
we're
out
there.
We've
got
limited
funding,
as
you
all
know
about.
Why
we're
there
we're
going
to
evaluate
opportunities
to
do
some
intersection
improvements
if
we
can
afford
them
frankly
so
park
avenue
and
10th
avenue
are
where
we
had
those
those
temporary
medians.
C
I
talked
about
there's
also
a
bump
out
crosswalk
at
the
guthrie
theater
that
will
stay
they
paid
for
that,
but
we'll
look
at
whether
or
not
we
can.
We
can
upgrade
that
and
then
we're
also
going
to
take
a
look
at
that
11th
avenue
intersection.
I
talked
about
and
then
we'll
evaluate
opportunities
for
a
protected
bikeway.
I
would
love
to
have
a
kind
of
a
floating
curb,
protected
bikeway
in
the
street
here.
C
But
the
honest
answer
is,
I
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
be
able
to
fit
that
in
this
project
or
not
due
to
the
the
constraints
that
we
have,
but
I'm
hoping
at
a
minimum,
we
can
make
improvements
to
the
existing
bikeway.
That's
out
there.
You
know
with
just
paint
and
sticks
type
of
thing,
but
but
this
is
all
kind
of
what
we're
going
to
evaluate
with
this
project.
C
So
just
some
pictures
intersection
improvements.
This
is
sort
of
how
it
could
look.
You
see
on
the
top
left
the
existing
condition
at
this
is
at
10th
street
and
on
the
the
bigger
picture.
This
is
a
a
flow
or
a
floating
media,
and
this
is
actually
a
little
bit
different
project,
but
this
is
a
center
median
type
of
type
of
treatment
that
could
be
installed
on
a
project
like
this
and
then
intersection
improvements.
C
My
pictures
aren't
good
because
I
was
just
out
there
today
and
there's
still
snow
and
the
trails
need
to
be
cleared,
but
we
can
look
at
doing
some
channelization
at
the
intersections
to
clean
things
up
and
and
making
it
what
we
would
call
a
a
protected
or
a
semi-protected
intersection.
That
would
help
both
bicycles
and
pedestrians
by
better
managing
the
vehicle
speeds,
and
it
also
gives
you
that
sort
of
reference
refuge
space
when
you're
crossing
and
helps
to
sort
of
shorten
the
crossing
distance
up
so
again.
C
This
is
something
we
need
to
evaluate,
there's
a
lot
of
constraints
in
this
area,
but
it
is
something
and
I'm
at
zero
percent
now,
but
over
the
course
of
the
spring
and
into
the
summer
that
we're
going
to
be
taking
a
look
at
and
then
pictures
of
protected
bikeways,
I'm
sure
many
of
you
are
are
familiar
of
how
these
look
on
the
left
is
the
in
street.
The
linear,
protected
bikeway
and
just
kind
of
painting
sticks
the
one
on
the
right
is
the
industry
curb
protected?
This
is
a
higher
level
of
treatment.
C
C
So
with
that,
that
was
a
really
quick
and
dirty
introduction
to
this
project
and
I'd
like
to
just
pause
and
and
then
open
it
up
for
any
questions
or
discussion,
starting
with
any
clarifications
that
you
need.
But
I'd
also
like
to
hear
sort
of
your
thoughts
on
on
how
how
we
might
approach
this
thing
moving
forward.
So
with
that
back
to
you,
okay,.
A
I
think
I
have
one
question:
you're
at
zero
percent.
Will
you
be
coming
back
to
us
this
summer
or
late
spring
with
final
design?
30?
That's
my
intention.
Yes,
okay,
the
the
one
thing
I
have
to
ask,
and
I
I
really
like
some
of
the
ideas
I
mean
I
think
you're.
If
you
don't
have
much
money,
you're
going
to
have
to
do
a
lot
with
paint
and
bollocks,
but
when
you
do
that,
when
you
create
a
bike
lane
like
with
bollards
and
with
paint,
is
there
ever
any
textured
paint
put
on
it?
A
C
I
don't
know
that
minneapolis
has
done
a
whole
lot
of
that.
We
do
do
the
textured
treatment
as
you're
likely
aware
at
intersections,
where
we
have
curb
ramps
and
things
like
that
that
doesn't
help
the
person,
who's
kind
of
crossing,
mid
block
from
the
park
to
the
apartment
building
or
what
have
you?
There
are
sort
of
textured
treatments
that
you
can
do.
You
know,
for
instance,
when
you
do
you've
seen
these
around
the
city,
the
the
bikeway
symbol
that
that's
you
know
in
in
the
bike
lane.
Sometimes
you
can.
C
You
can
do
a
thermo
type
of
treatment
where
they
they
mail
that
in
and
it
has
a
little
bit
of
a
texture
on
it.
But
I
don't
know
that
the
city
has
done
a
whole
lot
with
just
the
kind
of
the
delineator
stripes.
So
that's
a
good
question
I'll.
Take
that
back.
I
can't
make
any
promises
there,
but
I'll
at
least
kind
of
evaluate
what
the
options
are.
D
C
C
D
C
Yeah
there's
two
levels
to
that:
the
allocation
to
the
the
fund
itself
gets
set
on
an
annual
basis
and
then
they
they
identify
within
that
here.
Here's
our
project
list,
but
the
specific
funding
for
this
project
will
be
allocated
at
that
council
approval
stage
and
the
honest
answer
is:
I'm
thinking,
that's
probably
fall-ish
and
I
it's
kind
of
a
moving
target
as
to
how
much
of
that
big
28
fund
is
going
to
be
left
for
this
project
at
that
point,
they're
they're
kind
of
still
working
on
what
this
year's
project
list
looks
like.
C
C
A
A
B
Had
to
mute
myself,
I
have
two
questions.
The
first
well
two
comments.
I
think
the
first
is
just
making
sure
that
all
legs
of
all
intersections
will
have
ramps.
I
know
that
that
is
that's
supposed
to
be
the
city's
default,
but
it
doesn't
always
show
up
when
we
see
designs
later
on.
So
that
means
on
t
intersections.
B
All
three
crossings
have
all
their
all
their
rounds
and
markings
awesome
and
then
the
other
question
is,
I
don't
know
where
we're
at
on
the
third
avenue
bridge
in
terms
of
getting
all
four
legs
of
that
intersection.
I
know
that
that
looks
to
be
outside
of
what
you're
discussing
in
this,
but
it
seems
like
that's
really
important
for
the
pedestrian
connections
and
I
don't
know,
what's
happening,
yeah
yeah.
C
C
Mill
and
overlay
that
they're
gonna
get
the
curb
ramps
in
everywhere
that
they're
needed
so
I'll.
Take
that
comments.
You
know
with
me
to
the
design
team
and
and
make
sure
that
that
does
include
sort
of
the
t
intersections
and
we
we
do
a
field
walk
and
we're
just
waiting
for
the
the
snow
to
melt.
So
it
could
be.
C
Yeah,
it's
a
good
comment
like
right
now,
for
instance,
I
bet
a
lot
of
them
are
underwater,
where
we're
in
low
spots
yeah
that
the
engineering
department
kind
of
leads,
though
I'll,
take
that
comp
leads
those
field
walks
I'll.
Take
that
comment
back
though
I
don't
have
a
great
answer
for
you,
but
they
yeah
point
noted.
C
C
C
B
It's
the
first
street
crossing
where,
on
the
bridge
side,
at
least
prior
to
the
redo,
we
did
not
have
a
crossing,
and
I
I
have
walked
it
and
timed
it.
And
if
you
want
to
go
from
being
on
the
side
of
the
river
to
staying
on
that
side,
you've
had
to
do
all
three
legs
and
it's
something
like
a
three
minute
delay
or
more.
So
I
don't
know
for
sure
if
what's
going
on
there,
but
I
would
love
if
you
could
use
whatever.
C
B
C
B
C
C
B
E
C
Yep
there
is
some
wayfinding
sign.
That's
out
there
signage
out
there
now
mainly
on
the
bikeways.
You
know
pointing
to
the
different
major
connections
that
exist
like,
for
instance,
when
you
get
over
to
the
guthrie
there's
a
couple
of
different
signs
on
on
that
few
blocks,
but
you
know
I'll
bring
that
up
again.
It's
it's!
C
It
gets
complicated
from
from
my
perspective
of
of
trying
to
run
the
project
because
it
they,
for,
I
was
gonna,
say
for
better
or
for
worse,
but
for
worse
we
have
different
sort
of
pots
of
money
for
all
of
these
types
of
programs.
So
it's
really
hard
for
us
to
stitch
things
together,
but
there
is
always
the
opportunity,
while
we're
out
there
to
sort
of
make
these
you
know
just
like
with
the
bikeway
on
the
rehab
project,
to
make
these
connections
and
try
to
line
things
up.
So
it's
definitely
a
great
comment.
A
B
D
D
B
D
C
B
D
B
D
D
A
B
D
A
B
There
might
be
stuff
that
is
starting
to
get.
There
might
be
things
that
are
reaching
the
end
of
their
life.
We
did
talk
about
flooding
in
the
area
and
that
the
path
the
existing
path
is
reaching
the
end
of
its
predicted
life
from
installation,
which
was,
after
the
94
flood,
at
least
the
walking
path,
and
so
that
there
might
be
some
other
things,
but
it
is
skewing
closer
to
like
the
20
to
30
years
out
because
of
the
equity
metrics.
I
think.
A
A
D
I'll
take
a
review
of
it.
The
one
thing
that
barb
would
you
remind
who
presented
the
minutes,
reflect
who
presented
to
us
yeah?
It
was
emma
pascuta
from
the
heart.
Would
you
feel
comfortable
in
sending
an
email
to
emma
just
saying
remind
the
pack,
please
of
the
timeline
of
this
project
that
they're
doing
community
engagement?
For
I
mean
it's
does,
is
it
starting
next
year
or
is
it
many
years
out?
I
mean.