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B
Good
evening,
welcome
to
the
regular
virtual
meeting
of
the
city
planning
commission
committee
of
the
whole
today
is
thursday
march
10th
2022
for
the
record.
My
name
is
anisha
marwa
and
I'm
acting
vice
president
of
the
planning
commission
right
now.
This
includes
the
remote
participation
of
board
members
and
staff
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
0.021
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic,
the
city
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
to
the
city's
website
and
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
public
access
and
transparency.
B
This
meeting
is
public
and
subject
to
the
minnesota
open
meeting
law.
At
this
time
I
will
have
the
clerk.
Please
call
the
role.
Oh,
I
will
call
the
meeting
to
order.
Please
clerk
call
the
world
to
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum.
C
A
D
A
E
B
Great,
let
the
record
reflect
a
quorum
is
present,
and
now
we
will
move
on
to
adopt
the
agenda
for
tonight,
a
copy
of
which
was
posted
for
public
access
to
the
city's
legislative
information
management
systems,
which
is
available
at
limbs.minneapolismn.gov,
may
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda.
F
G
D
A
B
H
A
For
the
confusion
with
that,
commissioner
rainville.
B
Great,
we
have
four
discussion
items
on
our
agenda
this
evening.
First
up
is
lake
and
nicolette
phase
one
thirty.
Thirty
nicolette
staff
is
mailing
smith.
K
Okay,
so
this
is
located
very
close
to
the
intersection
of
lake
street
and
nicolette.
It's
the
southern
half
of
that
block
near
the
southwest
corner
of
that
intersection.
It
occupies
about
2.6
acres
in
size.
K
Currently
it
is
pretty
much
considered
vacant,
but
it's
been
operating
as
kind
of
a
makeshift
drive-through,
since
the
uprising
in
may
2020
when
the
wells,
fargo
branch
burned
down
at
this
location,
and
so
now
this
is
coming
in
as
a
phase
one
of
a
multi-phase
planned
unit
development.
K
So
this
development
would
be
concentrated
along
the
east
side
of
or
of
the
site
facing
nicolette
avenue.
It
would
have
two
curb
cut
entry
points,
one
in
the
northeast
corner.
That's
intended
mostly
for
the
bank
and
then
the
the
other
corporate
is
on
31st
street.
So
the
bulk
of
the
building
is
here,
there's
also
an
open
kind
of
plaza
seating
area
along
31st
street,
I'm
going
to
zoom
in
a
little
bit
here,
so
you
can
see
so
wells
fargo
would
relocate
to
a
much
smaller
building
at
the
northeast
corner
of
this
site.
K
There
would
also
be
residential
amenity
areas,
office,
community
center
retail
spaces
restaurant.
There
would
be
a
drive
through
that
is
retained
in
a
new
location
on
this
site.
It
would
include
it's
like
three
drive-thru
lanes
and
one
drive
up
the
atm
and
then
there's
also
surface
parking
here.
There
is
also
surface
parking
proposed
off-site,
so
you
see
this
row
of
parking.
This
is
actually
on
the
parcel
to
the
north,
but
they
have
an
agreement
and
an
easement
between
the
two
properties.
K
So
and
then
this
is
the
rooftop
here,
so
it's
a
six-story
building
and
then
because
of
the
height
of
the
roof
structure,
it'd
be
considered
a
seven-story
building
in
the
corridor
for
built
form
district,
which
this
is
located
in
this
would
be
allowed.
It's
the
4
to
15
stories
is
the
requirement
in
transit.
15.,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry,
it
says
quarter
4
I
meant
transit
15.
K
K
Here's
a
rendering
of
the
site.
Looking
southwest.
You
can
see
the
new
wells
fargo
and
then
overall
the
building
would
contain
110
dwelling
units.
I
believe
about
77
of
those
units
would
contain
between
two
and
four
bedrooms
and
all
of
them
would
be
considered
affordable,
and
I
will
probably
leave
it
at
that.
K
I'm
going
to
ask
the
applicant
if
they
would
like
to
add
anything,
and
I
know
that
there
are
many
people
from
the
applicant
team
tonight
that
are
present,
which
is
great,
I'm
not
sure,
commissioner
marwell,
how
long
you'd
like
to
a
lot
for
them
to
speak.
Just
given
that
it's
a
longer
agenda
tonight.
So
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody's
cognizant
of
time,
because
we
have
a
long
agenda
so
I'll
leave
it
there.
Thank.
B
L
Okay,
thank
you,
so
I'm
just
gonna
go
quickly
through
this.
Just
a
quick
history
of
the
sites,
as
you
as
mainly
mentioned,
this
building,
like
the
former
building,
was
burned
down
during
the
uprising.
M
Demolition
started
shortly
after
and
in
about
a
year
later,
in
june
of
21,
we
we
started
a
very
through
community
engagement
process
with
the
community.
We
had
a
total
of
8
meetings.
A
lot
of
this.
As
you
can
see,
it
was
way
outside
of
the
build
the
building
itself
and
the
material
materials
and
looks
but
a
lot
about
long-term
impact
in
the
community.
M
We
received
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
community
that
informed
program
that
then
informed
the
building
design
and
nothing
was
really
directly
stated
about
the
building
or
the
looks
or
the
heights
or
the
colors,
but
definitely
a
lot
of
program,
the
desire
for
programmatic
items
and
even
some
long-term
partnerships
with
entities
that
would
better
the
community
as
a
whole.
M
We
had
a
two
on-site
meetings,
we
called
design
matters
and
we
really
shared
some
basic
information
about
what
is
in
the
minds
of
a
designer
when
we
are
doing
all
those
things
and
why
things
are
the
way
they
are
and
why
why
the
efficiencies
and
how
the
code
and
zoning
plays
a
role,
and
we
had
some
some
groups
divided
up
and
really
coming
up
with
some
aspirations.
That
was
mostly,
it
showed
up
in
the
in
the
form,
but
a
lot
of
it
again.
We're
kept
going
back
to
programs.
M
We
minerals,
share
this
space
cycling,
but
we're
really
thinking
about
such
a
big
block.
So
it
is
large,
a
long
200
some
feet
in
almost
every
direction
and
we're
really
working
from
the
perspective
of
the
pedestrian.
So
how
do
you
break
this,
and
also,
how
do
we
provide
opportunities
for
or
for
for
comfort,
for
familiarity
and
for
a
scale
that
feels
like
a
human
scale?
M
And
we
provide,
we
propose
that
we
shift
the
building
down.
We
have
the
accessible
parking
right
here,
so
they
can
easily
walk
safely,
walk
through
and
into
the
door,
especially
with
this
entrance
here
we
went
through
also
some
conversations
about
how
do
we
buffer
and
provide
some
some
really
layers
of
separation
between
the
speed
and
fast
cars.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
know
this
corner
well,
but
it
is
a
very
fast
corner.
M
M
So
we're
really
thinking
on
I'm
coming
efforts
here
to
separate
and
also
provide
a
second
layer
of
buffer
between
fast
cars
and
folks
that
are
likely
going
to
be
walking
here
sitting
in
the
retail
and
even
kids
using
the
park
the
park,
the
pocket
park
was
really
something
that
came
back
from
the
community
engagement
a
lot
and
and
they
desire
to
have
a
place
the
kids
could
play
and
all
ages
could
really
hang
out
here
sitting
place.
You
can
grab
food
and
come
over
here.
M
We
could
have
performance
happening
in
for
the
whole
community,
so
this
is
really
a
community
amenity.
It's
not
a
residence
amenity
and
the
idea
was
to
put
in
a
place
where
most
eyes
could
see
it
from
the
communities
from
the
resident
side,
but
also
that
would
be
accessible
without
breaking
the
streetscape
from
nicolette
and
really
making
it
wide
enough
of
an
entrance.
That
is
very
clear.
This
is
not
a
resident
I
mean
it
is.
This
is
not
community.
I
mean
anybody
is
welcome
to
come
and
play
here.
M
Another
thing
we
did
was
to
do
our
best
efforts
to
hide
all
these
lanes
for
the
for
the
atm
for
the
drive
drive
to
do
so.
We
we
worked
on.
There
was
25
variations
of
this
just
me,
but
and
we
were
really
always
looking
for
this.
How
do
we
first
provide
a
space
that
welcomes
humans,
but
then
still
has
all
this
crossing
in
all
these
circulation.
So
we
ended
up
zoning
up
the
cars
and
the
really
the
busy
lanes
over
here,
and
then
we
have
a
buffer
again
with
some
paved
area.
M
Green
area
parked
cars
and
then
the
humans
area
right
here,
the
little
people
in
everybody's
hangout
area
down
here
so
we're
and
also
the
way
the
building
shapes
it
really
hides
the
not
so
pleasant
part
of
the
of
the
drive
tool.
If
you're
looking
from
corner
of
lake
and
nick,
for
instance,
the
tractor
is
right
here,
so
you
barely
see
it
it's
behind
behind
all
this
mass
in
here.
M
We
shifted
this
this
this
this
wing
down
a
little
bit
to
also
break
that
big
mass,
that
we
are
finding
here,
220
feet,
long
mass,
we
shift
it
down,
put
a
light
color
in
the
corner,
really
to
try
to
play
with
composition
and
release
the
visual
sense
of
things
it's
still
a
long
building,
but
it
feels
smaller
feels
more
down
down-to-earth
scale
because
of
the
colors
and
the
way
we
we
broke
it
up.
M
This
is
a
view
from
the
south
looking
looking
into
the
beauty,
so
those
are
the
retails
the
31st,
and
this
is
what
we're
saying
we
are
looking
to
create
this
some
kind
of
buffer
here.
So
then,
this
area
is
more
pleasant
for
folks,
there
are
easier
they
retail.
It's
going
to
be
likely
a
restaurant
here
to
be
able
to
sit
down
and
feel
comfortable
and
feel
safe.
M
This
is
the
view
on
31st
looking
at
the
building
the
pocket
park
right
here
again
even
from
here,
you
don't
see
much
of
the
drive
true.
We
really
try
to
wrap
it
around
and
have
green
between
this
space
and
the
car.
So
we're
really
trying
to
it's
there.
It's
needed
the
community
needs
it.
It's
very,
very
highly
used
by
the
community.
If
you
think
about
east
african
communities,
cash
business,
they
deposit
cash
every
day
every
day
and
they
go
in
a
car,
they
have
kids.
M
So
it
is
a
very
needed
amenity,
but
we're
trying
to
make
sure
it
was
not
on
the
like
a
sore
really
like
eyesore
for
the
project.
This
is
a
view
that,
from
the
retail
shop
across
the
street,
this
is
residence
entrance,
and
this
is
the
wells
fargo
brittaio
down.
Here
we
have
the
material
pilot.
The
million
already
mentioned
brick
metal,
fiber
cement,
two
tonnes
of
harbor
cement.
B
Thank
you
and
thank
you
mailing
and
the
applicant.
Is
there
any
discussion
or
comment
for
this
item.
N
Thanks
so
much
I'm
really
excited
about
this
project.
First
of
all,
can
you
hear
me?
I
have
this
fear.
Okay,
wonderful,
I
think
adding
110
units
with
a
bank
with
commercial
on
the
bottom
is
really
exciting.
In
this
area.
I
used
to
live
a
block
from
here
by
35w,
and
it's
also
really
exciting
to
see
this
park
space,
which
is
really
sorely
needed.
It's
a
it's
an
area
with
not
a
lot
of
kind
of,
I
would
say,
as
the
park
board
representative
to
the
planning
commission.
N
That's
I
would
say
what
is
one
of
our
park
deserts.
So
it's
wonderful
to
see
this
pocket
park.
I
have
two
concerns
that
I
would
just
like
to
raise
in
light
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
One
is
the
location
of
the
drive-through,
and
I
know
that
you've
been
had
many
many
iterations
of
this,
but
I
just
want
to
talk
about
that
briefly
and
then
also
the
amount
of
parking
provided
and
the
trade-off
with
that
too.
N
So
I
I
just
first
of
all
feel
that
this
pocket
park
is
so
important
to
this
community.
I
know
they're
going
to
be
lots
of
kids
living
in
this
development
and
I'd
love
to
see
that
that
the
people
who
live
in
this
new
development-
you
know
going
along
with
policy
nine
open
spaces
in
new
development
that
we
are
really
encouraging:
the
creation
of
equitably
publicly
accessible,
open,
plazas
spaces
and
plazas
that
connect.
N
You
know
that
and
to
me
this
means
that
these
that
these
residents
that
they
deserve
that,
they're
being
frankly,
I
I
think,
sort
of
shortchanged
on
their
quality
of
life
by
having
it
drive
through
lane
run
through
the
courtyard,
and
so,
if
there's
any
way
that
that
could
be
repositioned
along
the
northern
side.
N
I
really
like
to
push
back
on
that.
I
think
I
I
think
that
would
be.
You
know
very
important
to
have
that
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
and
part
of
why
I
bring
that
up
is
because,
if
nicolette
avenue
is
your
front
yard,
you
know
don't
you
deserve
a
less
trafficked
space
as
your
backyard.
I
think
I
think
the
answer
is
yes.
N
So
my
last
thing
that
I
just
was
talking
about
this
courtyard,
which
is
lovely,
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
parking
around
this
courtyard
and
it
really
shrinks
the
usable
space,
and
I
just
want
to
note
that
west
31st
street
contains
30
parking
spaces
and
nicolette
has
I
oh
I'm
seeing
a
head
shake,
but
I
thought
it
did
no.
I
It
actually
is
signed
for
no
parking
on
either
side.
That
is
one
of
the
discussions
that
we're
having
with
the
city
engineers,
because
right
now,
the
only
areas
where
on-state
parking
is
allowed
within
about
a
one
block
radius
is
on
our
side
of
niclip
and
on
blaisdell
both
sides,
but
right
now,
31st
has
no
parking
on
either
side.
The
opposite
side
of
nikla
has
no
parking
and
lake
street
on
either
side
has
no
parking.
So
it's
really.
N
Yeah
yeah,
I
mean
I
would
hope.
I
have
no
idea
what
my
role
is
in
this,
but
I
would
hope
that
our
city
engineers
would
work
with
the
development,
because
I
think
you
know
again
that
they're
going
to
be
a
lot
of
kids
in
this
development
and
I'd
love
to
see
our
on-street
parking
used
to
support
our
businesses
and
that's
that's
another
policy
in
the
comp
plan
policy
for
access
to
commercial
goods
and
services.
N
So
to
see
that
used
in
a
way,
so
that
the
this
development
could
could
have
that
at
least
that
internal
could
see
the
public
green
space
expanded.
So
those
are
my
thoughts.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
B
Great
commissioner
mcguire.
H
Thank
you,
I'd
echo
what
commissioner
elper
said
about
the
making
sure
the
courtyard
is
usable
and
then
the
only
other
comment
I
had
was
just
a
thanks
to
the
applicant
for
kind
of
flagging.
Why
the
bank
on
site
and
the
atm
is
so
important
to
this
community.
I
don't
use
cash
day
to
day
so
in
my
mind,
I'm
always
wondering
like.
H
Why
do
we
continue
to
need
these
banks
on
site,
because
I
do
everything
online
so
thanks
for
adding
that
cultural
note,
so
that
I
can
be
aware
of
that
moving
forward.
So
thank
you.
G
Hey
there
thanks
damaris
thanks
for
the
presentation,
thanks
also
for
we
don't
often
see
the
window
into
the
sort
of
community
engagement
and
process
piece
when
we
get
these
presentations.
So
I
I
think
thank
you
for
sharing
that,
and
I
I
do
it
is.
It
is
tough
to
see
all
that
drive
through.
It
circulate.
G
I'm
sure
you've
struggled
with
that
with
the
drive-through,
and
so,
if
it
has
to
be
there,
I'm
wondering
in
terms
of
those
surfaces
are
these
are:
are
they
pervious
or
you
know,
because
they're
are
they
multi-use
when
cars
aren't
there
can
kids
play
on
them?
If
we're
going
to
have
that
aspect
in
the
courtyard,
can
we
think
about
it?
Not.
G
Cars
other
things:
how
do
we
deal
with
rain
water?
Those
sorts
of
things
would
be
would
be
lovely
to
consider
as
part
of
that
terrific
space,
and
I'm
wondering
maybe
a
question
too,
when
phase
two
happens
does
does
any
of
this
circulation
or
parking
change,
or
is
there
more
of
that?
If
you
could
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
happens
in
phase
two
to
the
courtyard.
M
Sure
about
the
I
can
show
you
very
quickly
this
site,
so
we
do
have
a
intended
mix
or
muta
use
for
this
area
here
outside
of
the
the
tractor
lanes.
The
idea
is,
we
were
really
amazing
and
can
testify
to
this.
M
We
had
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
with
the
city,
because
the
idea
was
that
we
only
would
have
one
entrance
on
21st
nothing
on
nicolette,
so
this
would
be
our
main
entrance,
which
is
busy
and
always
cars
in
and
out
so
now,
with
the
bank
being
allowed
by
the
city
engineers
to
cut
through
here
in
the
city
planners,
then
we
are
hoping
that
these
reserves,
mostly
for
residents
coming
in
and
out,
which
is
sometimes
of
the
day,
not
all
day
long
and
also
folks,
for
the
retail
supporting
the
retail,
because,
like
faith
was
saying,
we
have
a
retail
here-
and
this
is
another
very
nice
asset
of
this
project,
which
is
is
really
local.
M
Businesses
are
actually
buying
the
side.
That's
the
slice
of
the
first
floor
as
as
condominium
is
being
contaminated
out,
so
they
can
actually
own
a
piece
of
the
building
that
has
other
something
else.
That
came
from
the
community
engagement
and-
and
we
can't
expect
them
to
succeed
without
parking,
so
we
are
struggling
with
this.
We
need
to
provide
parking
to
sustain
this.
We
also
need
to
provide
the
safety
in
a
safe
and
a
usable
space
for
the
kids
and
residents
and
the
community
so
yeah.
We
have
this
attempt
of
overlapping.
M
We
don't.
We
can't
tell
what
if
this
is
always
full,
because
there's
a
nice
restaurant
here
in
the
corner.
What
is
you
know?
So
that
is
a
desire,
and
I
think
we
between
the
developer
and
my
team.
We
we
wish
too,
that
we
did
not
have
to
have
parking
or
drive-throughs
or
entrances
for
cars
and
always
have
humans
being
having
happy
moments.
But
when
we
start
going
against
constraints
of
of
program
and
real
needs
right
to
make
retail
viable,
you
need
to
provide
parking.
M
As
far
as
second
phase
goes,
I
don't
think
we
saw
that
far
faith.
We
do
think
that
we
would
have
likely
another
ramp
access
somewhere
around
here
and
expand
the
ireland
here.
Sorry
on
the
side
for
the
residents
underground
somewhere
decide,
and
then
we
thought
we
talked
very
briefly
about
crossing
the
spark
over
and
having
traffic
calming
measures
here.
So
folks
can
really
slow
down
actually
down
here.
So
this
becomes
an
extension.
M
But
again,
then
we
need
to
be
very
careful
with
safety
to
make
sure
that
people
really
slow
down
so
there's
no
accidents
and
the
lack
of
safety
for
the
kids
crossing
here,
because
if
you
see
the
pavement
continue,
you
don't
pay
attention.
So
all
of
those
things
are
in
our
minds,
but
we
are.
We
have
a
strong
desire
of
extending
this
to
the
other
side.
M
Do
we
have
anything
else
face
that
I
left
out
yeah.
I
I
guess
I
would
just
note
that
you
know
if
we
do
mostly
residential
in
the
second
phase,
then
we
would
probably
need
wouldn't
need
any
more
parking
than
just
underground.
It's
really
when
we
start
adding
more
commercial
there
that,
then,
the
parking
demand
increases,
and
I
think,
frankly,
just
a
limited
amount
of
parking
there
might
might
end
up
with
mostly
residential,
because
of
that.
G
I
G
Their
constraint
and
I
think,
sort
of
territorializing
that
preserving
it
kind
of
really
reinforcing
that
would
be
fantastic
and
I
think
even
the
commercial
space
sort
of
leaking
into
that
outdoor
seating
mixing
with
that.
It's
all
about
activation
right,
and
so
I
I
do
see.
There's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
activity
in
that
courtyard,
which
will
be
wonderful.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Ford.
D
Thank
you.
I
two
comments
one
I
I
would
I
strongly
support
your
desire
to
change.
Have
the
parking
change
the
on-street
parking
change
on
on
31st,
I
think
the
the
the
no
parking
on
the
north
side
of
31st
is
really
really
a
vestige
of
the
old
design
that
was
there
and
there
was.
There
was
a
massive
drive-in
operation
coming
off
of
31st
for
the
bank,
and-
and
so
that's
you
know
that
I
think
that's
given
you
a
new
design.
D
I
don't
see
why
they
couldn't
make
that
30
the
north
side.
The
south
side
clearly
is
the
bus
garage
and
that's
not
going
to
not
going
to
change.
So
I
just
support
that
strongly
and
I
also
want
to
just
thank
you
for
it's
so
difficult
and
we
so
rarely
see
family-sized
housing
and
to
see
three
and
four-bedroom
units
is
just
it's
so
heartening.
I
think
it's
just
terrific.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner
ford,
a
question
from
commissioner
alper.
N
Yes,
real
quick,
I
guess
I'm
just
wondering
what
opportunities
exist
or
what
would
need
to
change
or
what
pushback
you've
had
from
preventing
you
from
putting
the
drive
through
in
a
like
on
the
periphery
of
the
development
on
the
north
side,
thanks.
M
The
placement
of
the
driver
defines
a
lot
of
where
the
window
can
be
you
know,
or
where
how
the
cars
have
to
circulate
on
the
sides.
We
would
need
to
have
access
access
and
exiting
onto
nicolette
for
that
to
be
all
in
the
north
side,
which
became
a
big
problem
because
again,
the
city
was
really
looking
into
removing
all
curb
cuts
on
nicolette
and
we
we
we
had.
M
We
tried
and
we
tried
all
kinds
of
ways
to
go
through
to
place
the,
but
still
creates
a
lot
of.
It
makes
the
the
area
where
cars
go
even
longer
and
even
more
intrusive
into
the
other
spaces
when
you
have
to
cross.
So
many
ways
also
makes
it
very
unsafe
for
for
cars
coming
in
just
to
park
underground
and
the
drive
troop
folks
crossing
over
so
to
separate,
that's
the
north,
then
we
have
to
have
access
in
and
out
from
nicolette,
which
was
not
advised.
M
The
city
would
like
to
see
mostly
exit
out
actually
just
exiting
out
there
and
we
are
still
allowing
for
entrance,
which
is
not
fully.
I
was
not
ideal
now,
if
you
all
can
help
us
with
the
politics
side
of
31st,
because
I
I
know
the
main
thing
they
pushed
back
was
not
that
they
don't
agree.
M
There's
20
34
is
going
to
be
revisited
for
street
for
for
a
public
realm
design,
and
that's
therefore
they
do
not
want
us
to
propose
or
spend
in
the
city,
spend
money
or
spend
money
on
something
that
might
be
totally
undone
in
two
three
years.
B
Does
that
answer
your
question?
Commission.
Opera.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
comments
on
my
own
to
add
to
this.
I
again
also
wanted
to
read
or
anything
this
commissioner
baxley
mentioned
about
your
process
around
incorporating
community
input
and
how
you're
actually
doing
that
kind
of
pocket
park
for
the
community.
B
I
think
that's
great,
that's
the
kind
of
stuff
that
we
keep
pushing
about,
wanting
to
see
kind
of
concessions
for
community
come
out
of
projects
build
environments
for
everyone,
not
just
you
know
the
people
living
in
that
exact
building,
but
people
who
will
be
walking
by
that
and
accessing
it.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
drive-through
or
the
parking.
I
think
I'm
sure
you
guys
had
to
work
on
a
very
big
puzzle
about
trying
to
fit
in
these
part
of
these
drive-through
lanes.
B
We've
seen
this
from
when
the
initial
plans
were
put
out,
and
you
know,
we've
gone
through
iterations.
I
think
this
is
you
guys
are
doing
the
best
you
can
with
given
those
circumstances
where
those
lanes
would
go,
and
you
know
I
totally
agree
with
you
know
the
reality
of
that
there
you
do
need
some
parking
for
those
commercial
spaces,
especially
in
a
condoed
out
a
way
that
people
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
there's
parking
for
them.
So,
but
my
more
my
comment
is
on
the
materials
used.
B
Did
you
go
back
to
the
community
yet
around?
What
the
facade
kind
of
looks
like
I
just
don't.
Personally,
you
know
have
a
I
don't
like
fiber
cement
and
the
hardy
board.
I
think
it.
You
know
the
community,
probably
I'm
just
curious
what
their
feedback
was
on
the
design
itself
of
the
building.
I
like
some
of
your
kind
of
ways
that
you've
broken
up
the
mess
of
that
building
and
the
scale,
but
just
personally,
I
think
that
the
design
falls
a
little
flat,
color
and
scheme
wise.
M
It
was
very
good
we
we
were.
I
think
we
were
all
very
nervous,
that
day
that
we
unveiled
the
design
proposition
to
the
community
after
hanging
out
for
eight
for
eight
meetings.
You
better
have
gotten
us
right,
and
so,
when
we
presented
it
was
very
well
received.
So
we
are
now
using
hardy
board.
We
are
using
the
fiber,
the
thick
fiber
cement
panel
and
then
break
two
types
of
brick
and
then
some
accents,
like
you
saw
with
the
whites
or
some
two
we
have.
M
Actually
we
didn't
mention
this,
but
there's
two
public
art
place
one
one
facing
lake
one
down
in
the
park.
We
are
thinking
about
rotations
of
art
pieces.
There
are
our
ensuing
words,
nothing
on
paper
or
or
guaranteed,
but
we
are
thinking
that
could
rotate
the
teams.
The
artists,
so
we
can
keep.
The
community
really
include
include
the
richness
of
the
diversity
in
the
community
right.
M
It's
not
just
one
story,
just
not
one
group
but
yeah,
the
community
loved
it
and
we
we
presented
on
the
last
two
meetings
with
the
presentation
back
and
we
also
show
them
some
kind
of
progress.
How
how
we
have
been
going
and
why
the
things
we
changed
and
why
we
changed
it,
so
it
was
ever
very
positive.
M
The
only
negative
comment
received
was
too
much
to
dance,
so
many
too
many
people,
too
big
of
a
building
too
many
people
was
not
even
was
more
alluring
to
have
made
too
many
a
big,
too
big,
building
for
affordable
housing
building
would
that
be
good,
and
but
that
we
kind
of
understand
that
concern.
But
we,
the
truth,
is
we
need.
B
Right
yeah,
I
think
those
design
panels
you
have
are
great.
You
know,
especially
if
you
can
make
sure
that
it's
neighborhood
artists
and
it
feels
very
connected
to
the
community
of
who
does
those
pieces
or
whether
or
not
they
rotate
at
least
that
they
feel
very
much
kind
of
reflective
of
who's
there,
and
it
can
be
something
really
cool
and
unique.
That's
a
big
proponent
of
making
sure
that
that
feels
connected
back
to
back
to
that
same
committee.
Those
are
all
my
comments.
Are
there
anything
else
on
this
agenda
item.
B
A
Yes,
absolutely
receiving
file
doesn't
require
any
further
action
and
we've
already
established
that
these
will
all
be
received
items
so
we're
all
set
to
go.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank.
B
You
all
and
we'll
move
on
to
discussion,
item
number
five.
So
next
up
is
the
production
mixed
use,
zoning
code
text,
amendment
staff
of
this
item
are
jason,
wittenberg,
jim
voll
and
amber
turn
quest.
O
Is
that
on
your
full
screen
now,
or
is
that
still?
Okay?
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
thank
you.
I'm
jason
wittenberg
the
manager
of
code
development
in
cped,
I'm
joined
by
amber
turnquest
and
jim
voll
from
our
community
planning
team.
We
are
working
on
zoning
code,
changes
that
would
implement
the
production
mixed
use,
policies
of
minneapolis
2040..
O
This
amendment
has
not
yet
been
formally
introduced
by
the
city
council,
but
we
have
had
conversations
with
a
couple
of
council
members,
including
councilmember
rainville,
and
we
expect
that
the
city
council
will
make
formal
introductions
soon
for
this
amendment
to
get
the
formal
process
moving
between
me
amber
and
jim
will
cover
what
production
mixed
use
is
what
research
and
outreach
has
been
done
and
what
we're
proposing
and
what
the
open
questions
are
that
we
have
for
commissioners.
P
My
name
is
amber
turnquest.
I
am
a
principal
city
planner,
with
community
planning
in
cped
the
map
to
your
right
depicts
the
production
mixed
use.
Areas
within
the
city
which
allow
both
production
and
non-production
uses
residential
uses
are
allowed
as
a
part
of
mixed-use
buildings
that
provide
production
space
and
must
incorporate
mitigation
strategies
to
address
potential
conflicts
between
existing
production
uses
and
new
residents.
P
The
adaptive
reuse
of
older
industrial
property
is
encouraged
in
april
2020.
A
focused
group
of
local
developers
met
on
this
topic
and
we
heard
the
following
feedback:
that
there
was
a
desire
to
locate
facilities
near
the
existing
workforce
and
easy
access
to
freeways
that
that
financing
may
present
a
challenge
due
to
the
mix
of
uses
that
nuisances
can
be
limited
through
market
principles
and
allowing
adjacent
buildings
rather
than
vertical.
Vertical
configuration
may
make
these
projects
more
feasible.
P
There
baltimore,
philadelphia
and
san
francisco
are
three
cities
that
have
implemented
this
type
of
mixed-use
zoning.
The
industrial
mixed-use
districts
were
introduced
into
the
baltimore
code
in
2017
to
encourage
the
use
of
industrial
buildings
for
light
industrial
use
in
philadelphia.
Philadelphia
has
two
mixed-use
districts
that
incorporate
industrial
uses.
Of
course,
the
industrial
origin
of
the
city
meant
that
the
proximity
of
residential
uses
was
not
uncommon.
O
Thank
you
amber
so
for
commissioners,
who
have
been
here
for
a
little
while
since
minneapolis
2040
was
adopted.
You
are
aware
that
when,
when
new
residential
development
has
been
proposed
in
production,
mixed
use
areas,
that's
been
a
little
bit
messy
about.
You
know
how
much
production
space
is
required.
What
uses
should
be
in
that
production
space?
O
So
what
we're
proposing
is
that
the
industrial
living
overlay
district
would
be
the
mechanism
we'd
use
to
implement
this.
That
is
the
current
district
that
we
use
to
allow
residential
uses
in
in
industrial
zoning
districts.
O
O
And
just
to
be
clear,
the
production
space
could
be
in
a
separate
building.
We
have
an
example
where
that
was
recently
done
later.
In
this
presentation,
the
we
have
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
what
uses
would
qualify
as
production
and
jim
will
cover
that
momentarily.
O
We
are
proposing
that
these
spaces
be
required
to
open
directly
to
the
outdoors,
so
they're
not
just
kind
of
a
private
space
for
the
residents
of
the
building
and
along
those
lines.
We
envisioned
that
there
would
be
situations
where
there
might
be
an
artist
community,
for
example,
where
the
intent
of
the
production
space
is
for
residents
of
the
building.
Q
Thank
you
so,
as
jason
we'd
be
implementing
this
mainly
through
the
industrial
living
overlay
and
that's
applied
over
the
i1
and
i2,
and
so
we
went
through
the
code
and
looked
through
the
i1
and
i2
uses
and
tried
to
find
the
the
the
ones
in
the
use
table
that
would
most
closely
provide
or
allow
the
I
guess
allows
the
better
word
allow
the
production
type
uses
that
we
thought
would
would
be
the
best
for
meeting
the
intent
of
the
policy
in
the
comp
plan.
Q
Some
of
them
may
not
be
strictly
production
and
processing,
but
they
relate
to
some
of
the
things
like
the
arts
district
in
northeast
or
other
creative
type
uses
and
so
art
studio,
but
not
an
art
gallery.
So
we
didn't.
We
specifically
didn't
put
that
in
where
you
know
somebody
would
just
have
a
space
and
put
paintings
up
in
it
or
so
forth,
but
an
art
studio
where
art
is
being
made
catering
educational
arts
center.
Q
So
that
might
be
something
where
they're
not
maybe
necessarily
producing
an
actual
product,
but
but
they
are
producing
creativity
and
thought
around
arts,
film,
video,
the
food
and
beverage
products
and
the
green
milling
small
scale.
Grain
milling
isn't
like
a
huge
operation
like
you
see
on
hiawatha,
but
it's
it's.
These
are
types
of
uses
like
we
have
in
the
food
building
on
on
marshall
street
in
in
northeast
and
then
there's
a
section.
Q
That's
that's
really
a
description
called
light
industrial
uses
and
I
won't
go
through
the
whole
thing,
but
it's
basically
says
that
they're
low
impact
uses
that
have
little
or
no
noise
order,
vibration
or
glare
or
little
impact
on
surrounding
uses,
and
so
you
know
that
would
really
be
the
sort
of
catch-all
for
any
type
of
production
like
I
want
to
start
a
little
business
that
makes
candles
or
pictures
or
furniture
or
or
any
of
those
types
of
things,
that's
the
category
that
that
type
of
production
falls
under,
and
so
when
we
were
looking
at
the
lists
of
uses
and
so
forth,
there
probably
could
have
been
other
ones.
Q
We
could
have
added
to
this
category
one
that
we
debated
a
lot
was
offices.
You
know
you
can
think
of
a
fairly
creative
office
type
firm.
You
know
like
architectural
or
advertising,
or
something
that
that
maybe
is
producing
something,
but
then
maybe
that
space
would
just
end
up
being
leased
to
a
insurance
agent
and
not
there's
anything
wrong
with
that,
but
that's
not
really
what
we
were
trying
to
get
at
with
providing
production
in
creative
space.
Q
So
we
had
to
sort
of
balance
limiting
the
amount
of
uses
against
the
ability
to
also
have
leasable
spaces,
and
then
one
other
thing.
I
want
to
point
out
because
it's
confused
a
lot
of
people
on
staff
and
everywhere
else,
but
there
are
still
a
whole
slew
of
uses
like
offices
and
restaurants
and
so
forth
that
are
allowed
in
the
i1
and
i2
that
would
be
allowed
to
go
in
a
building
this.
This
list
isn't
meant
to
be
exclusive
of
allowing
those
things
to
happen.
They
certainly
can
happen.
Q
O
Thank
you.
So
I
mentioned
one
recent
example:
this
is
the
production
space
that
was
developed
at
the
timber
entire
project.
This
is
a
development
that
shaper
richardson
completed
last
summer
on
14th
avenue
northeast
between
like
central
and
quincy.
O
It
has
a
separate
building,
in
this
case,
with
a
little
over
5
000
square
feet
of
production
space.
This
is
exactly
the
kind
of
thing
that
we'd
be
looking
for
and
an
example
of
where
this
was
done.
O
Well,
we
met
with
shaffer
richardson
about
this
project
and
they
really
emphasized
to
us
that
while
people
really
are
interested
in
having
these
spaces,
they
are
quite
difficult
to
lease
and
they
they
felt
like
they
provided
a
space
that
was
quite
flexible
and
includes
the
types
of
things
that
that
would
be
helpful
to
facilitate
production
and
they
have
leased
about
half
of
the
space
now
to
a
couple
of
photographers,
so
they
are
making
progress
on
on
that
front.
O
Yeah,
I
believe
that
it
opened
last
august,
and
I
think
I
think
the
production
space
was
finished
at
the
same
time
as
the
residential
space.
Okay,
thank
you.
O
So
here
are
some
open
questions
that
we
have
for
commissioners.
You
know
most
of
the
things
that
we
indicated
are
our
components
of
the
of
the
proposed
ordinance
are
have
some
some
potential
flexibility
to
them.
There's
a
question
of:
should
this
apply
to
just
new
construction
or
to
reuse
of
existing
buildings
as
well?
We
think
it
probably
should
apply
to
all
of
the
above
when
you're
establishing
residential
uses,
either
in
a
new
building
or
in
an
adaptive,
reuse
situation.
O
One
thing
that
one
council
member
raised
for
with
us
is
whether
we
should
consider
a
replacement
component
that
is
stricter
when
somebody
is
removing
existing
sort
of
industrial
or
production
space
from
a
site
versus
perhaps
more
flexibility
when
developing
a
vacant
lot.
That's
not
something
that
we
have
in
our
proposal
right
now,
the
required
size
of
the
production
area.
O
I
mentioned
that
we're
looking
at
equivalent
to
15
percent
of
the
ground
floor,
we've
gone
a
little
bit
back
and
forth
on
number
smaller
than
that
and
a
number
larger
than
that
and
are
trying
to
land
at
a
spot
that
is
practical
and
meaningful
the
residential
unit
threshold
that
should
trigger
a
production
space
requirement.
As
I
mentioned,
we're
we're
proposing
20.
O
and
any
feedback
about
situations
where
the
applicant
is
seeking
to
provide
the
space
only
for
residents
of
the
building,
and
then
the
the
production
uses
that
that
jim
mentioned,
which
whether
you
have
any
feedback
about
the
list
of
uses
that
would
qualify
as
production
with
that.
I
think
we
can
open
it
up
for
commission
discussion,
questions.
E
Thank
you
very
much,
so
I
I
just
want
to
compliment
the
staff.
First
of
all,
I
think
you
really
thought
this
through.
I
just
have
a
couple
comments.
I
I
do
think
that
15
of
the
total
space
on
the
first
level
is
too
low.
E
I
I
used
to
serve
on
the
northeast
art
district
board,
and
the
concern
is
that
so
much
of
this
production
space
is
getting
converted
into
residential
and-
and
that's
you
know,
residential
is
good
we're
in
a
housing
crisis,
but
the
arts
district
succeeds
because
there
is
so
much
production
for
the
artists
to
go
close
by.
E
So
I
I
I'm
suggesting
this
might
be
a
little
higher,
perhaps
20
percent
not
too
much
higher,
but
but
make
it
make
it
work
and,
as
you
said,
that
schaefer
richardson
project,
although
they
thought
that
it
was
going
to
be
hard
to
lease
they've,
already
leased,
half
of
it
and
they've
only
been
open
since
august,
so
the
demand
is
going
to
be
there
for,
for
the
use,
the
other
I'm
going
to
just
look
at
my
notes
here.
The
other.
E
The
other
thought
I
had
was
the
the
list
of
uses
was
really
really
good.
I
I
believe
jim
voel
covered
that,
but
it
was
just
really
well
thought
out
and
I
think
moving
forward,
it's
good
to
not
have
offices
as
one
of
those
used
just
keep
it
in
that
production
mode.
Thank
you.
F
Thanks,
I
have
a
question
so
I'm
trying
to
remember,
but
when
we
were
talking
about
this
a
long
time
ago,
we
had
talked
about
how
industrial
space
was
disappearing
quickly
and
maybe
becoming
limited.
Is
that
something
that
is
still
true
or
what
do
we
think
about
that.
Q
Well,
you
know,
as
long
as
I've
I've
been
with
the
city
and
jason,
you
know
jason
I've
been
with
say
for
20
some
years.
It's
always
you
know
been.
Yes,
there's
a
concern
over
the
loss
of
industrial
space,
but
I
will
say
that
we
did
do
an
industrial
employment
study
and
designated
certain
areas
in
the
city
reserved
for
industrial
use
and
then
so,
when
we
did
minneapolis
2040
those
areas
were
designated
in
the
comp
plan
as
production
areas
and
then
the
areas
that
we're
talking
about
now
were
listed
as
production
mixed
use.
Q
So
the
city's
decision,
I
guess
or
the
council's
decision,
our
decision
was
that
these
areas
could
be
transitional,
that
they
could
that
they
wouldn't
be
reserved
for
exclusively
industrial.
So
I
don't
know
if
I'm
totally
answering
your
question,
I
don't
have
the
numbers
on
how
much
we're
losing,
but
you
know
it
kind
of
depends
on
who
you
talk
to.
I
know
our
business
development
people
are
always
concerned
about
the
loss
of
industrial
land.
Other
people
think
it's.
Q
You
know
great
great
to
convert
these
areas,
but
we,
as
a
policy
matter,
tried
to
preserve
certain
areas
and
we
designated
those
production
and
then
the
ones
that
we
felt
could
could
transition
or
ever
mix
are
these
ones
that
are
on
this
map
in
purple
and
that
this
ordinance
would
apply
to
so
it
wouldn't
apply.
We,
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
this
in
the
areas
designated
as
production,
which
used
to
be
the
old
employment
districts.
F
Okay
yeah
that
answers
my
question
that
I
was
just
wondering
because
I
was
thinking
about
the
replacement
idea,
but
I
guess
other
than
that.
I
would
just
say
that
I
would
want
to
make
sure
that
you
keep
the
part
saying
that
the
doors
or
you
know
there
needs
to
be
exterior
access
to
the
space.
I
think
that's
important
and
I
think
it
should
apply
to
reuse
and
new
construction.
D
Thank
you.
I
I
just
want
to
add
that
I
agree
with
the
the
idea
of
requiring
an
outdoor
entrance
and
require
exterior
entrance
and
also
allowing
reuse
as
one
of
the
one
of
the
allowable
items.
My
question
is
you
mentioned
that
I
think
it
was
a
minimum
of
20
residential
units
in
to
be
to
be
fitting
into
this
category,
and
I
is
is:
would
there
be
a
process
to
make
an
exception
to
that?
D
If
you
know
something
came
along
and,
and
particularly
it
was
a
reuse,
it
came
along
and
you
know
it's
19
or
18,
but
it
still
makes
sense.
Would
that
would
it
be
a
procedure
that
would
allow
that.
O
O
O
You
know
deciding
how
much
to
to
pay
for
a
piece
of
property
and
and
making
it
clear
what
the
expectations
are
about,
whether
production
space
will
be
required,
so
we
always
will
run
into
the
situation
of
you
know
the
the
one
under
right.
Just
like
we
do
for
inclusionary
zoning
of
people
proposing
a
a
residential
project,
that's
one
below
what
wouldn't
would
trigger
inclusionary
zoning.
O
Q
Well
and
jason-
I
would
add,
though,
if
maybe
I'm
maybe
I
was
hearing
the
question
a
little
bit
differently,
so
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
your
mouth,
commissioner,
but
all
of
these
uses
that
we
are
saying
would
count
towards
production
are
permitted
uses
in
the
industrial
districts
in
the
island.
So
if
a
developer
wanted
to
put
these
uses
in
the
building,
there
would
be
nothing
that
would
prohibit
it.
D
So
if
so,
if
I'm
building
a
a
25-unit
housing
project
in
this
in
this
area,
this
district,
I
must
have
production
space.
That's.
R
Thanks
and
I'm
brand
new
to
the
commission
in
the
committee,
so
I
appreciate
your
patience
with
me.
While
I
ask
a
couple
of
questions.
First
of
all,
just
a
thank
you
to
the
staff
who
put
this
together.
I
think
it's
it's
great.
My
question
is,
I
heard
earlier
in
the
presentation
about
you,
know
external
entrances
and
making
this
truly
accessible
to
people
in
the
community,
but
then
I'm
also
seeing
in
the
question
below
I
think
it's
bullet
number
five
about
addressing
situations
where
applicants
want
the
space
for
residents
only.
O
Right
yeah,
our
our
sort
of
starting
point
is
that
we
prefer
that
this
definitely
be
space.
That's
that's
open
to
the
general
public
or
to
people
who
don't
live
on
the
site,
but
we
can
think
of
buildings
and
envision
buildings
that
are
perhaps
artist
communities,
for
example.
That
would
function
quite
well
with
with
the
having
production
space.
That's
used
just
for
that
community,
so
that
we
wanted
to
leave
open
the
opportunity
for
a
developer
to
request
that
that
be
used
only
for
on-site
residents.
O
But
I
think
they
would
really
have
to
show
us
what
kinds
of
features
they
intend
to
put
in
the
that
space.
That
would
again
ensure
it's,
not
the
the
community
party
room
and
that
it
actually
is
going
to
be
used
for
some
kind
of
production,
but
but
we're
recognizing
that
that
will
be
a
tricky
thing
to
to
figure
out.
R
I
wonder,
if
narrowly,
defining
to
the
extent
possible
what
those
possible
exceptions
might
be,
would
give
guidance
to
developers
so
that
the
the
city
is
not
overwhelmed
with
conditional
use
permits
that
fall
under
the
sun,
especially
for,
if
really,
what
we're,
considering
as
part
of
this
exception,
would
be
artist.
Communities.
B
I
had
a
quick
question:
sorry
before
we
jump
back
to
commercial
rainbow,
so
when
I
wanted
to
understand
kind
of
are
we
is
the
goal
of
this
tied
back
to
job
creation.
So
is
there
kind
of
economic
development
measurements
around?
B
You
know
a
number
of
in
that
percentage
of
floor
there
has
to
be
x,
number
of
employees
or
x
number
production
space,
like
I
guess,
kind
of
just
wanting
to
understand
when
people
come
up
like.
Why
do
we
have
to
do
the
space,
and
why
do
we
have
to
what
is
that
kind
of
that
comp
playing
goal?
Is
it
around
product
protection
of
job
creation
spaces?
I
mean
I
love.
Obviously
I
love
this
idea.
This
is
you
know,
bread
and
butter
of
what
I
do
day
and
day.
B
I
wrote
a
whole
action
plan
for
napa
around
production,
like
prevention
of
these
spaces
and
making
sure
they
don't
disappear,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
tying
it
to
how
are
we
saying
what
these
spaces
are
used
for
you
know
is,
it
is
one
art
studio,
that's
empty
all
day
long
and
never
used,
or
you
know
someone
who's
working
on
a
widget
in
a
huge
space,
the
same
thing
as
having
the
job
creation
space.
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to.
B
I
remember
we
struggled
with
that
with
a
one
of
the
developments
that
had
come
before
us,
so
I
just
want
to
hear
your
guys's
thoughts
on
that
question,
and
then
I
have
a
few
others.
Q
Yeah
I'll
try
it,
you
know,
I
mean
I
think
the
direction
was
to
to
create
to
create
space.
That
would
prevent
the
loss
of
these.
These
uses
and
jobs
in
space,
but
we
are
not
com.
So
the
the
solution
we're
coming
up
with
is
uses
in
space.
Not
not
employees,
not
not
a
metric.
That
would
be.
You
have
to
create
a
number
of
employees.
Q
I
think
you
can
sort
of
by
proxy.
Maybe
do
that
by
the
by
the
the
uses
that
we
we
pick
but
yeah.
There
is
always
the
concern
that
we'd
have
an
art
studio
where
I
lease
it.
You
know,
and
I
go
paint
there
once
a
week
or
whatever-
and
you
know
that's
not
the
same
as
somebody
putting
a
business
in
there.
That's
making.
Q
I
use
this
example
before,
but
it's
all
I
can
think
of
as
candles
or
whatever
you
know.
Maybe
there
would
be
five
people
in
there
working
all
the
time
doing
that.
One
thing,
I
think,
though,
is
it's
notoriously
difficult
to
come
up
with
a
standard
that
requires
a
certain
number
of
employees.
Q
I
know
that
from
my
my
work
several
years
ago
on
the
park
dedication
fee,
where
we
were
going
to
try
and
base
that
on
numbers
of
employees
and
what
uses
would
have
what
employees
and
we
just
really
found
that
it's
it's
from
a
regulatory
code
standpoint.
It's
it's
not
not
easily
done,
so
I
think
we're
focusing
more
on
the
the
uses
and
the
the
size
of
the
space.
B
B
Making
someone
who
makes
scandals
from
home
and
goes
into
a
small
studio
space
is
not
going
to
be
paying
market
rate
for
northeast
rents.
You
know
that
and
so
being
able
to
finance
this
type
of
space
for
a
developer.
That's
why
affordable
housing
with
this
type
of
space
didn't
work
for
that
developer.
Who
proposed
that
plan
is
that
you
can
either
you
know
if
you're
doing
market
rate
above
and
then
you're
using
those
offsets
to
to
offset
this.
B
But
it's
it's
a
very
complicated
way
to
finance
this,
and
I
feel
like,
if
there's
ways
that
this
can
better
tie
to
federal
financing
initiatives
around
this
kind
of
job
creation
or
small-scale
production
spaces
or
light
industrial
space
that
is
being
lost
in
cities
left
and
right
and
kind
of
these
movements
that
are
happening
around
it
or
maybe
there's
you
know
it's
it's
tied
to
the
same
goals
of
what
the
bid
is
for
the
northeast
arts
distributors.
B
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
love
this
idea,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
able
to
get
implemented
and
we
can
keep
seeing
this
happen
and
we
don't
just
have
developers
saying
you've
made
it
impossible
for
us
to
develop
in
the
saber
area
and
we're
not
going
to
do
it.
So
that's
and
I
feel
like
that's
what
happened
in
one
of
the
proposals
that
we
saw
last
year
was
that
they
just
couldn't
it
wasn't
working
out
right
and
that's
kind
of
why
this
confusion
keeps
happening.
B
Is
we're
basically
telling
them
they
have
to
put
below
market
rate
space
in
the
ground
floor,
to
keep
it
for
these
types
of
arts
and
creative
users,
which
I
we
build
every
day
at
my
in
my
day
job.
So
I
get
how
but
it
takes
philanthropy.
It
takes
a
ton
of
money
to
put
those
deals
together.
Most
developers
don't
come
with
that
knowledge
or
know
how
to
do
that.
So
how
do
you
implement
saying
that
we
want
the
space
to
be
there
to
your
market
rate
developer?
B
Q
B
I
don't
mean
to
by
any
means,
I'm
sorry
not
to
feel
like
I'm
putting
you
guys
on
the
spot,
but
I
just
want
to
tell
you
that's
kind
of
my
perspective
of
I
want
to
see
this
happen,
and
I
just
want
to
understand
if
there's
like
the
examples
that
you
gave
from
baltimore
and
san
francisco,
how
are
like
what
are
other
examples
from
those
markets
of
how
are
they
being
financed?
How
are
these
things
really
happening,
because
I
don't
understand
how
that
model
is
working.
P
And
the
financing
we
didn't
really
get
too
down
the
road
on
that,
but
with
san
francisco
there's
a
replacement
requirement,
there's
a
definite
need
for
expanding,
or
at
least
preserving
their
industrial
properties.
After
the
dot-com
boom
they've,
they
did
a
production,
distribution
and
repair
areas
that
allowed
those
residential
uses,
but
for
the
financing
we
need
to
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail.
P
B
Determine
that
san
francisco
has
a
fund
that
developers
can
access.
If
there
is
something
like
that
because
of
the
you
have
to
replacement
fund
or
something
that
you
are
doing,
if
you're
removing
industrial
production
space,
then
you,
you
know,
put
money
into
a
fund
and
then
the
next
developer
who
comes
in
develops.
This
can
access
dollars
to
be
able
to
make
that
happen,
because
I
think
there's
something
in
here.
That's
missing
for
me
of
how
this
will
actually
work.
B
And
I
I
mean
I
feel
like
it.
Could
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
the
city
does
this,
but
like
have
a
small
focus
group
of
developers
of,
have
you
know
shaffer
richardson,
who
did
it
and
art
space
and
two
other
people
and
kind
of
sit
down
and
workshop
this
and
be
like?
We
really
want
this
to
happen.
What
do
we
need
to
do
to
strengthen
this?
Do
you
guys?
Did
you
guys
do
that,
or
is
that
something
that's
happened?
Yes,
we
did.
P
Have
a
focus
group,
including
schaefer,
richardson,
the
wellington,
and
I
believe
the
last
one
escapes
me,
but
we
did
have
a
focus
group
and
they
did
mention
that
financing
would
be
the
hardest
part
of
this
because
of
the
unusual
configuration
of
mixed
use,
as
opposed
to
the
usual
commercial
and
residential.
P
B
Yeah
yeah,
I
wonder
yeah
I
mean
I
feel
like
continuing
those
conversations
and
continuing
to
refine
this.
I
think
there's
if
there's
ways
that
they
can.
B
There's
not
an
arts
interest,
there's
a
okay,
a
job
we're
losing
out
of
these
kind
of
small
production
job
spaces.
And
so
I
just
wonder
if
there's
policy
we
can
be
bringing
in
from
minneapolis
that's
similar
to
to
that
or
if
there's
a
fund
of
replacement
reserves
fund
or
something
that,
if
you
are
removing
this
type
of
space,
you
have
to
don't.
You
know,
put
x
amount
of
money
into
this
fund
that
then
helps
offset
it
kind
of
like
an
affordable
housing,
trust
or
something.
You
know
something
like
that:
a
production
trust
fund.
B
Okay,
okay,
so,
commissioner,
rainbow.
E
Thank
you,
so
I
don't
have
a
degree
in
financing
and
I'm
not
proposing
anything
for
your
suggestions,
but
what
I
I
will
tell
you
is
I've
lived
in
northeast
minneapolis,
all
my
life.
I
knocked
on
thousands
of
doors
this
summer
and
the
demand
for
housing
is
incredible
over
there
developers.
If
we
give
them
clear,
concise
rules,
they
will
understand
how
to
make
it
work.
Just
like
shaffer
richardson
did
and
in
the
broader
context
of
things
we
are
in
a
great.
E
We're
at
a
loss
here
in
america
for
our
our
production
and
manufacturing
jobs,
moving
forward
to
deal
with
supply
chain
issues,
you're
going
to
see
this
industrial
land
become
way
more
valuable
for
for
industry,
as
was
its
original
intention,
and
to
have
this
compromise
where
it's
both
industry
production
manufacturing
as
well
as
housing,
is
a
way
forward
for
the
city
to
keep
its
tax
base
strong
and
to
have
the
job
creation
which
has
been
alluded
to.
So
that's
I
want
to
tell
you.
E
These
developers
covered
that
land
in
these
industrial
production
areas
that
will
not
be
a
problem.
Building
on
there.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
ryanville
any
other
questions
or
any
other
questions
from
staff
for
us,
and
thank
you
guys
again
for
working
on
this.
I
really
love
seeing
there's
so
many
cities
who
are
not
addressing
this
issue
or
not
thinking
about
it
or
not
putting
staff
people
behind
it.
So
really
really
thank
you
guys
for
really
drafting
this
up
and
really
working
on
this
and
making
sure
that
this
is
something
that
we
have.
B
C
Good
afternoon,
I
guess
good
evening,
commissioners,
at
this
point,
let
me
just
give
you
a
moment
here
to
get
the
materials
shared.
J
C
All
right,
so
I
see
a
lot
of
new
names
and
faces
here
on
the
planning
commission
today,
so
introduce
myself,
I'm
joe
bernard,
I'm
a
planner
and
code
development
team
here
in
cped,
where
we're
work
primarily
on
updating
the
zoning
ordinance.
C
C
However,
in
conversations
recently
with
our
state
building
officials
on
how
to
enforce
these
regulations,
we
it
was
determined
that
the
requirements
that
we
have
in
our
ordinance
are
in
conflict
with
the
state
building
code.
So,
generally
speaking,
municipalities
are
not
allowed
to
regulate
building
components
and
systems
in
a
manner
that's
more
strict
or
different
from
the
state
building
code
and
our
state
building
official
determined
that
that's
what
we
were
doing
here.
C
C
Let's
see
here
as
a
reminder
how
our
pud
chapter
works
is
to
satisfy
the
requirements
for
a
pud.
An
applicant
needs
to
choose
from
a
menu
of
options
and
accrue
a
certain
amount
of
points
to
get
approval
for
a
pd
call
those
items,
amenities
and
so
in
the
pud
chapter.
We're
suggesting
changing
the
standard
for
the
enclosed
parking
amenity
to
include
the
provision
of
ev
charging
infrastructure,
for
anyone
pursues
that
amenity.
C
Similarly,
in
the
built
form
chapter,
we
have
premiums
so
to
get
an
increase
in
our
your
floor
area
ratio,
you
can
pursue
a
series
of
premiums
that
are
listed
again.
The
enclosed
parking
element
is
there,
and
so
we're
suggesting
adding
the
requirement
that
eb
charging
be
included
in
the
projects
that
pursue
the
enclosed
parking
premium.
C
The
the
standard
that
we're
suggesting
is
that
applicants
that
that
supply
or
that
pursue
these
these
avenues
would
need
to
give
us
five
percent
of
the
spaces
in
their
project
would
need
to
have
level
two
chargers
or
greater
and
that
they
they
would
additionally
need
to
have
ten
percent
of
of
the
spaces
ev
ready,
so
meaning
they
have.
The
wiring
and
electrical
capacity
installed.
C
C
The
other
approach
would
be
just
to
introduce
a
new
standard
that
awards
a
point
for
supplying
an
l2
charger
anywhere
on
the
property
we
could
adopt.
Both
of
these,
I
think,
at
this
point,
staff
is,
is
leaning
towards
the
second
option
here
of
just
awarding
a
point
for
having
that
charger
anywhere
on
the
property.
C
The
last
element
I'll
cover
here
is
just
that:
we're
proposing
to
require
a
charging
station
capable
of
available
charging
level.
2
charging
excuse
me
again
for
parking
areas
of
20
or
more
spaces
or
in
parking
areas
that
that
add
that
add,
20
or
more
spaces
there's
a
fair
amount
of
policy
support
for
this
kind
of
thing
in
minneapolis
2040,
and
we
covered
that
last
year,
when
we
we
adopted
these
standards
as
part
of
the
broader
parking
and
tdm
text
amendment.
C
So
with
that,
I
welcome
your
thoughts.
I
think
in
particular
we're
curious
about
the
thoughts
on
the
site.
Planner
view
options
that
we're
considering
and
with
that
happy
to
support
your
discussion
as
needed.
J
R
Thanks
for
the
the
report,
could
you
go
back
to
the
two
options
that
you
guys
are
considering
the
slide
that
shows
those
two
yeah
this
one
here?
Can
you
talk
about
why
you
wouldn't
recommend
both.
C
I
think
we're
a
little
leery
of
so
I
don't
have
the
exact
percentage
for
you,
but
most
one
to
three
unit
projects
get
the
points
for
having
a
detached
garage,
so
we're
a
little
concerned
about
making
it
an
effectively
an
across-the-board
requirement
to
have
an
a
level
two
charger
in
these
types
of
projects,
and
I
think,
allowing
for
the
flexibility
to
put
a
charger
in
another
place
on
the
property
is
something
that
we're
interested
in
and
and
making
sure
that
we're
encouraging
folks
to
do
it,
whether
or
not
they
they
move
forward
with
a
detached
garage
as
part
of
it
too.
R
So
let
me
say
back
when
I
heard
him
make
sure
I
understand
it
correctly.
Yeah
is
that
you
don't
want
to
decentivize
people
from
putting
a
charging
station
in
if
they
do
not
receive
an
incentive
elsewhere.
Is
that
right?
That's
correct?
R
Okay,
I
just
I
my
personal
opinion
on
this
topic
is
the
more
incentives,
the
better
and
the
the
more
options
we
give
people
to
earn
incentives
to
put
in
charging
stations
the
the
better
off
we
are,
if
you
guys
have
data
or
studies
that
show
that
it
would
decentralize
people,
then
I
think
that
changes
the
conversation,
but
that
would
be
my
point
of
view
make
this
as
as
incentivizing
as
possible
for
people
to
want
to
partake
in
it.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
say:
I'm
just
curious:
do
you
have
any
provisions
at
all
if
a
building
is
remodeled
and
I'm
gonna
give
you
the
example,
I'm
thinking
of
the
old
north
star
hotel
is
going
through
this
massive
tens
and
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
remodel.
It
has
a
huge
parking
ramp
in
there.
Is
there
any
incentives
or
do
you
think
about
having
them
add
additional
ev
charging
stations.
C
Councilmember
rainville,
I
think
we
we
clearly
would
would
love
to
see
projects
like
that
provide
ev
charging
infrastructure.
It's
been
a
huge
challenge
in
the
city
for
existing
buildings
to
be
able
to
do
that
kind
of
work.
It's
really
cost
prohibitive,
prohibitive
to
go
back
and
do
that
work
later,
which
is
why
we
were
so
focused
last
year
on
developing
requirements
for
new
construction.
C
You
know
what
we're,
based
on
our
conversations
with
the
state
building
official.
What
we're
working
with
here
is
is
is
that
we
really
have
to
rely
on
our
incentive
structures.
So
if,
in
the
case,
an
applicant
like
the
north
star
building
for
whatever
reason
found
that
their
best
path
forward
for
approval
for
doing
their
renovation
project
was
a
planned
unit
development.
C
Yes,
then
we
would
have
that
incentive
in
place,
but
at
this
point
we
we
don't
have
an
across-the-board
option
for
projects
like
that
to
to
consider
putting
ev
charging
in
they
have
to
be
would
have
to
be
part
of
one
of
these
existing
incentive
structures
that
we've
got.
C
It's
it
depends
so
if,
if
the
north
star,
using
that
as
an
example,
it's
the
north
star
building
if
their
path
to
approval,
if
the
best
way
to
get
approval
for
their
renovation
project,
was
to
do
a
pud.
We
would
have
that
this
amendment
is
suggesting
that
we
have
incentives
in
our
pud
ordinance.
C
If,
if
they
don't
need
a
pud,
we
have
very
limited
options
or
we
and
we're
not
proposing
anything
that
would
incentivize
ev
charging.
In
a
case
where
someone
just
comes
across
the
permit
desk
and
doesn't
need
any
special
approvals
from
the
city
to
do
their
project.
C
C
I
think
you
know
if
we
would
have,
but
to
be
completely
fair
and
honest
here.
Our
ordinance
that
was
in
place
last
year
that
we
adopted
would
not
have
triggered
ev
charging
requirements
for
renovations
either.
So
we're
we're
kind
of
limited
with
remodels
in
some
ways.
E
Okay,
great
so
maybe
down
the
road.
That's
just
a
comment
that
if
the
state
changed
their
laws,
that
would
help
you
here
in
minneapolis,
the
building.
C
Codes
yeah
and
I
think
we're
hopeful
that-
and
we've
talked
with
other
departments
in
the
city
about
this
issue
that
we're
facing,
and
I
think
everyone's
interested
in
working
with
the
state
to
come
up
with
a
solution
to
this
problem.
We're
not
the
only
city.
That's
in
this
situation,
so.
E
B
Not
seeing
any,
I
will
direct
the
staff
to
receive
and
file
that
item.
Thank
you
so
much
joe.
B
All
right
onwards
to
our
final
item
today,
it's
discussion
item
number
seven,
and
this
is
for
the
land
use
free
zoning
study
staff
for
this
item
is
jason,
woodenberg,
janelle
white
with
mere
and
joe
bernard
sorry,
janelle.
O
Thank
you,
I
think
joe
is
pulling
up
the
presentation
there.
We
go.
Thank
you,
joe
jason,
wittenberg,
again,
I'm
manager
of
code
development,
I'm
joined
by
joe
bernard
and
janelle
widmeyer.
Also
from
the
code
development
team.
We
are
the
team
focused
on
revising
the
zoning
code,
with
a
particular
emphasis
on
implementation
of
our
comprehensive
plan.
O
We
will,
of
course,
be
bringing
this
project
to
you
for
discussion
multiple
times
throughout
the
course
of
the
study.
The
regulatory
implementation
of
minneapolis
2040
is
going
to
be
a
multi-year
ongoing
process.
In
addition
to
the
the
two
other
zoning
code
changes
things
like
the
other
two
zoning
code
changes
that
were
presented
here
tonight.
There
are
two
major
rezoning
studies
that
are
part
of
the
implementation
of
the
comp
plan.
O
O
Just
as
with
previous
zoning
code
work,
we
are
required
to
bring
our
ordinances
into
alignment
with
our
plans
as
required
again
by
state
statute
and
in
the
process
we
are.
Of
course
I
was
hoping
to
make
the
zoning
code
easier
to
administer
with
every
change
that
we
make
and
for
the
code
to
be
more
accessible
to
everyone
who
utilizes
it
next
line,
so
we
still
have
misalignment
between
our
base,
zoning
and
future
land
use
map.
This
is
the
biggest
issue
that
we
want
to
address.
With
the
rezoning
study.
O
We
currently
have
proposed
projects
that
come
before
the
planning
commission
through
the
development
review
process
that
are
pursuing
applications.
That
would
be
a
lot
more
straightforward
if
ours
base
zoning
matched
our
future
land
use
map.
O
As
an
example,
we
have
entire
corridors
that
are
guided
quarter,
four,
allowing
four-story
buildings
by
right
and
put
into
potentially
up
to
six
story
buildings,
but
those
corridors
might
still
have
primary
zoning
that
allows
more
than
no
more
than
a
duplex
or
a
triplex.
O
O
Right
now
that
the
land
use
rezoning
study
will
will
try
to
rectify,
we
will
also
be
able
to
remove
the
barrier
that
exists
for
situations
where
the
future
land
use
map
calls
for
a
mix
of
uses,
including
commercial
uses,
but
the
existing
residential
zoning
on
this
on
a
property
proves
difficult
for
an
applicant
to
rezone
the
commercial,
because
the
state
requires
that,
when
rezoning
from
residential
to
commercial
district,
you
obtain
consent
signatures
from
a
percentage
of
nearby
property
owners.
O
So
that
can
be
a
big
challenge
right
now,
when
somebody
is
proposing
to
align
their
zoning
district
with
our
future.
What
our
future
land
use
map
calls
for
next
slide.
O
With
the
bill
form
rezoning
study,
we
had
fairly
specific
guidance
related
to
the
scale
of
buildings
that
were
appropriate
for
each
built
form
district.
So
there
was
a
degree
to
which
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
latitude
for
some
aspects
of
that
ordinance
with
the
land
use
policies.
O
How
big
should
they
be
similar
to
the
discussion
that
we
had
earlier
about
production
mixed
use,
so
part
of
this
project
will
require
that
we
create
those
kinds
of
standards.
So
in
this
case,
which
uses
will
be
a
allowed,
are
required
to
to
meet
those
standards
and
what
sizes
do
they
need
to
be
with
that?
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
joe
bernard
to
present
the
next
group
of
slides.
C
Thank
you,
jason,
the
rest
of
the
slides
we
have.
I
think
we
just
want
to
offer
everyone
a
sense
of
the
the
issues
and
the
questions
that
we're
thinking
about
and
intending
to
tackle
with
the
project,
and
I
think
the
maybe
the
biggest
one
that
we're
grappling
with
is
how
much
do
we
try
and
work
with
the
existing
framework
that
we
have
for
our
our
zoning
code
and
our
zoning
districts.
C
Do
we
start
from
scratch-
and
you
know
we're
probably
gonna
end
up
somewhere
in
between
keeping
everything,
we've
got
and
and
starting
from
scratch,
but
since
the
built
form
districts
as
an
example
here
now
play
the
role
of
defining
a
lot
of
the
standards
that
used
to
distinguish
the
primary
zoning
districts
from
one
another.
This
affords
us
some
flexibility
in
determining
how
we're
going
to
use
those
primary
districts
moving
forward.
We,
for
example,
could
have
an
outcome
here
where
we
have
something
like
nine
residential
districts.
C
As
we,
I
think,
jason
previously
mentioned,
minneapolis
2040
calls
for
some
performance
measures.
We
talked
about
required
commercial
space
and
the
production
space.
In
some
cases,
the
plan
also
calls
for
a
distinction
in
the
size
of
commercial
uses
that
are
established
that
are
allowed
by
each
district.
So
there's
there's
some
analysis.
Basically,
that
needs
to
be
done
here
to
land
on
the
right
numbers
and
we're
working
on
our
well
on
our
way
to
to
doing
that.
Work
and
we'll
be
sharing
that
with
you
over
the
next
few
months.
C
This
maybe
goes
without
saying,
but
a
major
element
of
this
work
will
require
rewriting
our
use
tables,
so
those
those
tables
determine
which
uses
are
allowed
in
which
districts
and
which
locations
and
situations
throughout
the
city,
some
kind
guidance
in
this
on
this
issue
can
be
found
in
minneapolis,
2040
and
as
outlined
here.
C
We
want
to
limit
that
we're
also
going
to
re-evaluate
the
role
of
heavy
industry
in
our
production
areas,
we'll
we'll
be
looking
for
the
right
mechanisms
for
how
to
do
that
and
we'll
also
be
looking
at
how
to,
for
example,
allow
existing
commercial
uses
in
our
residential
areas
to
re
re-tenant
without
much
process
or
difficulty,
and
I
think
the
the
last
thing
here
to
mention
is
just
that:
we're
looking
to
simplify
our
use
tables
in
the
code
currently
they're
in
several
different
districts.
You
have
to.
C
Similar
to
the
built
form
work
that
we've
already
been
through
this.
This
project
is
going
to
require
an
expansive
remapping
effort.
So
at
the
end
of
this
process,
one
thing
that
will
be
changed
is
that
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
more
commercially
zoned
property.
C
Another
challenge
we're
going
to
face
is
figuring
out
how
to
best
support
long-term
efforts
by
the
park
board
to
acquire
land
for
future
park
space.
This
is
stuff,
that's
already
reflected
in
the
future.
Land
use
map
in
minneapolis
2040,
but
the
the
mechanisms
for
putting
this
into
zoning
can
be
kind
of
tricky
and
it's
a
situation
where
we
we
don't
want
to
use
zoning
to
take
redevelopment
opportunity
away
from
all
part
all
property
guided
for
parks
in
the
future,
especially
if
there
isn't
a
public
entity.
S
S
When
we
look
at
the
uses
that
are
allowed
than
our
existing
zoning,
it
was
noted
that
production
uses
in
some
cases
are
going
to
be
an
exception.
Certain
kinds
of
production
uses
that
don't
align
with
our
guidance
policy
items,
but
2040
doesn't
really
specifically
tell
us
which
users
should
go
in
which
land
use
districts.
So
there's
some
things
to
figure
out
there
and
even
for
types
of
uses
that
in
the
past
have
received
a
lot
of
attention
and
just
regulation.
S
We
don't
have
real
specific
guidance
for
that
example
being
pawn
shops
or
tobacco
stores.
So
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
treat
those
and
potentially
what
could
become
non-conforming
or,
conversely,
what
could
become
conforming
so
to
help
with
that
analysis,
we're
in
the
process
of
completing
an
extensive
survey
of
existing
uses
in
the
city,
and
this
information
is
going
to
help
us
in
figuring
out
how
to
write
our
use
tables
in
a
way
that
reflects
the
guidance
for
minneapolis
2040
and
also
not
create
a
lot
of
new
non-conforming
uses.
S
So
the
use-based
rezoning
study.
However,
we
know
that
there
are
going
to
be
some
new
non-conforming
uses
created,
but
we
do
want
to
just
be
aware
of
what
those
non-conformities
will
be
and
make
sure
that
we
are
not
creating
any
unintended
consequences.
Next
slide.
Please.
S
We
know
that
the
changes
to
our
use-based
regulations
are
going
to
result
in
the
need
to
change
other
elements
of
the
code
as
well.
In
some
cases,
other
city
ordinances
will
be
affected
as
well
that
are
outside
of
the
zoning
code.
S
So
some
examples
you
know
our
base
districts
are
cross-referenced
in
a
number
of
places,
so
we'll
have
to
update
those
as
needed
to
be
clear
where
regulations
are
going
to
apply.
S
We
expect
that
we're
going
to
be
making
updates
to
our
overlay
districts,
such
as
in
the
pedestrian
oriented
overlay
district,
where
some
elements
could
become
redundant,
and
this
might
even
be
an
opportunity
to
retire
some
of
our
overlay
districts
where
they
just
may
not
be
needed
anymore.
Additionally,
there
were
some
built
form
elements
that
we
temporarily
left
in
the
base
districts.
Just
at
the
time
we
worked
on
the
belt
form
regulations.
S
It
was
too
complicated
to
move
them.
So
now
we
will
be
looking
at
relocating
those
built
forum,
ordinances
into
the
built
form
overlaid
chapter,
so
those
all
reside
together.
Another
area
that
we'll
be
looking
at
is
our
sign
ordinance,
which
is
tied
to
our
base
districts,
so
that
will
require
attention
as
well.
So
those
are
just
some
examples.
Next
slide.
Please.
S
S
This
is
a
big
project
and
as
far
as
communications
and
engagement,
we
are
going
to
be
bringing
regular
updates
on
the
work
to
this
committee
and
we'll
be
bringing
forward
topics
and
questions
for
discussion
and
feedback.
There's
still
some
details
to
be
worked
out
for
our
public
engagement
that
we're
planning,
but
but
there
will
be
opportunities
for
people
to
weigh
in
on
the
new
regulations,
we'll
have
a
website
that
will
be
for
this
rezoning
study
and
we'll
be
hosting
virtual
public
meetings
or
surveys
as
needed.
S
So
with
the
timeline,
we
are
looking
towards
an
adoption
of
the
rezoning
study
in
the
first
quarter
of
next
year.
There's
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
We
have
started
the
groundwork
for
the
study
previously
mentioned.
The
existing
land
use,
inventory
and
communications
plans
that
are
being
worked
on.
We've
always
also
done
some
research
on
best
practices.
S
So
soon
we
expect
that
we'll
be
able
to
start
drafting
some
code
texts
and
use
tables
and
the
maps
for
this
reasoning,
study
that
will
follow
the
land
use
guidance
and
once
those
drafts
are
available,
then
we
are
expecting
that
that's
when
we
would
start
the
public
engagement,
so
I'm
sure
you've
noticed
this
is
going
to
be
a
big
undertaking.
S
S
We
didn't
have
any
specific
requests
for
feedback
this
time,
but
I'm
sure
we
could
take
some
if
anybody
had
comments.
F
Thanks
yeah,
just
thanks:
this
is
such
a
big
project.
It's
hard
to
imagine
you
know
looking
at
all
of
it
together
and
we
just
see
it
in
little
small
parts,
so
we
certainly
recognize
how
much
work
you're
doing,
but
I'm
very
excited
to
have
this
done.
So
it's
always
confusing.
You
know
when
we've
got
the
competing
in
guidance
that
we
have
to
consider.
So
I
think
this
will
be
great
to
finish
up.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner,
mcguire
with
a
comment.
H
Thanks
yeah,
I
would
echo
what
commissioner
olson
said.
I
think
it
is
confusing
sometimes
when
it
comes
to
planning
commission
and
it's
also
confusing
for
me
as
a
resident
and
I'm
a
planner
by
day
and
on
the
planning
commission.
So
I'm
really
excited
so
I
can
look
up
some
of
the
ordinances
myself,
so
I
guess
selfishly
like
as
a
resident
of
minneapolis.
I
would
ask
that
it's
like
as
layman
terms
as
possible
and
if
we
can
use
pictures
too
to
like
designate
yards
or
setbacks,
or
something
like
that.
H
I
really
like
when
codes
have
those
graphics
in
there
and
that
makes
it
more
accessible
to
more
people
too.
So,
but
I
don't
know
if
there's
other
issues
with
that.
So
if
that's
something
you
guys
or
you
all
could
look
into,
that
would
be
really
great
and
I'm
really
excited-
and
I
appreciate
you
all
doing
it
because
I
know
everyone
has
a
love-hate
relationship
with
writing
code.
So
I
appreciate
you
all
know
that,
like
this
is
a
huge
undertaking,
so
thank
you.
R
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
what
I
think
you
guys
have
already
heard.
This
just
seems
like
an
enormous
amount
of
work,
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
you've
got
the
support
of
us
as
you
work
through
it.
It
looks
remarkable.
I
think
what
you've
heard
from
people
so
far
is
exactly
what
I
would
say,
which
is
that
the
more
simple
we
can
make
this
for
the
residents
and
the
business
owners
in
the
city.
I
think
the
better
off
we
are
so
to
the
extent
that
that
includes
pictures,
interactive
graphics.
R
You
know
ways
that
the
public
can
interact
with
this
online.
I
think
people
know
a
lot
about
the
2040
plan
in
concept.
They
know
next
to
nothing
underneath
about
30
000
feet,
so
I
think
our
challenge
will
be.
How
do
we
bridge
that
gap
and
make
this
work
actionable
to
people
who
will
be
impacted
by
it,
but
just
probably
don't
know
about
it
yet.
So,
thanks
again
for
all
your
work.
B
I
I
have
a
question,
it's
kind
of
my,
maybe
my
just
knowledge
that
I
don't
have
that
you
guys
probably
know,
but
will
part
of
this
also
allow
a
little
bit
more
for
some
of
those
non-conforming
uses
like
we've
talked
about
how
it's
really
tough
in
the
city
to
have
food
trucks,
parked
places
or
kind
of
pop-up
commercial
spaces
and
kind
of
those
things.
B
Given
the
code
that
we
have
here
compared
to
other
cities
is,
there
is
just
kind
of
asking
I'm
not
really
sure
how
this
all
works
here,
but
will
some
of
that
kind
of
allow
for
more?
I
know
there's
a
lot
of.
Obviously
we
don't
want
punch-ups
and
certain
things,
but
also,
I
think,
there's
a
way
to
those
non-conforming
uses
can
also
be
very
cool
in
other
ways.
O
Yeah
a
couple
thoughts
about
that
commissioner.
Marwa
first,
is
that
during
the
minneapolis
2040
process,
the
staff
did
a
lot
of
work
to
identify
every
parcel.
That's
been
historically
used
as
commercial,
then
some
of
those
were
were
rezoned
to
residential
at
at
some
point
in
time.
I
think
I
remember.
O
So,
in
addition
to
that,
we
will
be
pretty
significantly
expanding
the
amount
of
commercial
space
as
guided
by
the
future
land
use
map,
and
then
it
is
our
intent
that
that
there
will
be
a
bit
more
flexibility
with
the
types
of
uses
that
perhaps
the
scale
of
of
a
use
is
regulated
a
little
bit
more
and
the
the
actual
enumerating
every
single
commercial
use
in
the
code
might
not
be
a
thing
anymore.
B
Okay,
thank
you
that's
great
to
hear,
because
exactly
it
can
be
cross
cost
prohibitive
to
build
a
commercial
space
fully,
but
maybe
that
vacant
corner
lot
could
be
activated
in
a
different
way.
That's
less
expensive
for
for
business
too,
given
those
ideas,
thank
you
all.
Are
there
any
other
comments
from
commissioners
on
this,
and
thank
you
all
again
for
undertaking
this.
This
is
such
a
such
a
huge
project.
I
can
only
imagine
that
the
puzzle
pieces
that
you're
working
on
so
to
get
it
all
together.
B
That
concludes
all
of
our
discussion
items
on
this
agenda
for
tonight.
Are
there
any
staff
updates
for
this
evening.
T
Yes,
just
very
quickly,
let
me
get
my
camera
on
here.
I
did
mention
at
planning
commission
on
monday
that
one
of
the
tasks
in
front
of
us
now
that
we
have
a
full
complement
of
commissioners
is
to
take
nominations
for
the
executive
committee.
So
we
are
going
to
add
that
to
the
agenda
for
your
next
regular
meeting.
So
the
bylaws
read
that
we
take
nominations
at
one
meeting
and
then
vote
at
the
next
meeting,
so
we
will
have
that
on
the
agenda
but
come
prepared
to
make
nominations.