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A
A
Before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
note
that
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
minnesota
statute,
section
13d
0.021
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
order
and
call
the
role
so
that
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
quorum
advisory
board
members.
When
I
call
your
name,
please
indicate
if
you
are
present
tom
fletcher.
A
We're
good
frank
in
amagua
do
not
appear
to
be
present
yet.
I
will
also
note
that
I
am
joined
by
andrew
carlson
with
the
special
service
district
team
at
public
works
along
with
david
bauer,
and
I
will
note
that
we
do
have
a
number
of
guests
from
the
city,
the
the
city
staff
team,
for
the
hennepin
avenue
reconstruction
project.
We
will
turn
this
meeting
two
over
to
in
just
a
couple
of
minutes,
along
with
other
public
guests.
A
A
B
A
C
A
D
Good
morning,
great
thanks
again
for
having
us,
it's
been
a
while,
since
we've
seen
you
but
we're
happy
to
be
back,
I'm
again,
becca
hughes,
with
transportation,
planning
and
programming,
I'm
joined
by
several
other
members
of
the
project
team
this
morning,
so
alan
klebman
from
traffic
and
parking
services,
I'm
also
jeanette
counail,
with
kimberly
horn,
I'm
adam
hale
from
transportation,
engineering
and
design,
as
well
as
amy
barnstar
from
transportation,
planning
and
programming.
So
I
know
a
couple
of
you
at
least
were
at
the
meeting
that
we
had
yesterday.
D
A
D
So
just
to
share
a
quick
agenda
in
terms
of
topics
that
we
intend
to
cover
we'll
start
with
a
quick
project
overview
we'll
share
the
recommended
design
for
the
corridor
and
discuss
some
of
the
technical
analysis
and
support
that
led
to
that
decision.
We'll
conclude
with
project
schedule
and
questions.
D
So
I
know
that
most
of
you
are
well
familiar
with
us,
but
just
to
recap:
it's
about
a
1.3
mile
segment
on
hennepin
avenue,
it's
a
reconstruction
project
with
douglas
avenue
on
the
north
and
lake
street.
On
the
south.
There
are
three
neighborhood
groups
that
we've
been
working
with
throughout
this
process,
as
well
as
two
special
service
district
groups
and
the
uptown
business
association.
D
In
terms
of
feedback,
as
I
noted
again,
this
is
a
very
broad
brush,
but
we
received
many
many
comments.
Many
of
them
were
competing,
and
I
think
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we've
shared
from
the
very
beginning
is
that
we
do
have
a
finite
amount
of
space,
there's
a
limited
amount
of
right-of-way
and
there
are
a
lot
of
competing
interests
and
what
we
heard
throughout
this
process
in
terms
of
competing
comments.
D
We
heard
concerns
about
traffic
congestion
on
hennepin
avenue
and
what
it
would
mean
for
traffic
flow,
with
a
reduction
in
through
lanes
for
motor
vehicles
and
then
also
the
implications
for
circulation
on
neighborhood
streets.
We
heard
interest
in
having
more
greening
for
the
corridor,
not
just
green
infrastructure,
but
also
different
elements
that
could
allow
for
sidewalk,
cafes
and
other
sort
of
street
activation
measures.
D
The
street
itself
is
nearly
65
years
old,
so
it
was
last
constructed
in
1957
and
there
were
numerous
issues
that
we
needed
to
address
when
we
first
started
looking
at
this
corridor
I'll
get
into
the
details
of
those
later.
But
this
is
basically
a
summary
chart
of
all
of
the
different
issues
that
we
were
trying
to
deal
with
within
again
a
confined
amount
of
space
and
how
well
that
we've
been
able
to
address
them
with
the
proposed
layout.
D
So
this
is
basically
a
summary,
and
I
should
also
note
that
there's
a
much
longer
presentation
that
has
more
slides,
more
detailed
information
that
is
available
on
the
public
website.
Now
but
again,
this
is
just
an
abbreviated
version
for
a
stakeholder
group
so
that
you
don't
have
to
listen
to
the
entire
thing
and
instead
we
can
get
to
questions
and
answers.
E
The
key
elements
of
the
layout
are
summarized
on
this
slide,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
trying
to
accomplish
is
to
have
consistent,
sidewalk
space
through
the
corridor.
There
are
some
really
constrained,
sidewalks
and
pinch
points
along
the
corridor.
Today,
the
recommended
design
does
have
a
two-way
sidewalk
level,
bikeway.
So
behind
the
curb
on
the
east
side
of
hennepin
avenue,
there
are
two
full-time
transit
lanes
which
are
shown
in
red
on
the
snip
on
this
slide.
E
There
are
two
vehicle
lanes.
One
in
each
direction
with
left
turns
at
key
intersections,
which
is
something
that
doesn't
exist
today
is
the
left
turn
lanes
at
the
north
end
of
the
corridor
in
the
south
end
of
the
corridor,
so
near
franklin
avenue,
and
then
between
lagoon
and
lake,
the
traffic
really
showed
that
there
was
a
need
for
additional
capacity.
E
So
the
previous
slide
kind
of
gave
you
a
bird's
eye
view
of
a
snip
of
the
layout.
This
is
giving
just
a
slightly
different
view,
which
is
really
more
looking
down
the
street,
so
you
can
see
each
of
those
elements
that
I
talked
about
and
how
that
space
is
allocated
along
the
corridor.
So
this
is
a
typical
section
sort
of
mid
block.
You
can
see
a
couple
things
I'll
just
point
out
here
there
there
is
proposed
to
be
a
median
along
most
of
hennepin
avenue
and
we'll
talk
more
about
that.
E
But
that
really
is
a
key
safety
feature,
and
then
you
can
also
see
the
bikeway
on
the
east
side
on
the
two-way
bikeway,
with
typical
section
being
boulevard
between
sidewalk
and
bikeway
I'll
go
to
the
next
slide.
Where
you
can
see.
This
is
what
the
section
looks
like
with
a
left
turn
lane
and
just
illustrates
that
there
are
cases
where
the
bikeway
is
next
to
the
sidewalk.
E
D
As
you
also
know,
there
are
narrow,
sidewalks
in
some
blocks,
especially
in
the
northern
portion
of
the
corridor
and
with
the
newly
adopted
transportation
action
plan.
Hennepin
avenue
is
on
the
city's
pedestrian
priority
network
in
terms
of
the
overall
recommended
design.
We
are
reducing
the
overall
cross-section
on
hennepin
avenue.
D
D
In
terms
of
bicycle
design,
as
you
currently
know,
there's
no
dedicated
bicycle
facility
currently
on
the
hennepin
avenue
corridor,
but
similar
lee
to
the
pedestrian
design.
The
it's
on
the
city's
high
injury
network
as
it
relates
to
sorry.
I
can't
see
until
that
guest
is
admitted.
Sorry
hennepin
avenue
is
over.
The
bicycles
are
overrepresented
in
injury
crashes.
It's
on
the
all
ages
and
abilities.
Bicycle
network
is
identified
in
the
transportation
action
plan.
D
The
recommended
design
as
jeanette
touched
on
is
a
sidewalk
level
two-way
protected
facility
on
the
east
side
of
hennepin
avenue.
It's
typically
10
feet
wide.
However,
it
is
eight
feet
at
some
of
the
constrained
locations
and
that
design
does
allow
for
the
the
connection
with
future
protected
bikeways
on
those
cross
and
intersecting
streets,
especially
to
the
east,
currently
of
hennepin
avenue.
D
I
would
just
say
that
we
also
evaluated
bike
facilities
on
parallel
streets,
but
really
it
was
inconsistent
with
our
adopted
city
policies
and
goals,
and
there
were
also
a
lot
of
trade-offs
that
were
affiliated
with
doing
that
as
well,
and
we
also
evaluated
one-way
bike
ways.
So,
instead
of
having
a
two-way
bike
facility
on
the
east
side
of
the
corridor,
we
looked
at
separating
those
into
individual
bikeways
on
both
the
east
and
west
sides.
But
we
just
simply
didn't
have
enough
space.
D
The
existing
bus
only
lanes
that
were
put
out
that
are
dynamic
that
exist
on
the
quarter
today
that
were
fully
implemented
in
2019,
but
piloted
in
2018,
do
reduce
travel
times
15
to
18
and
have
improved
transit
reliability
by
50
to
75
percent.
So
they
have
been
working
very
well.
We
do
anticipate
that
with
the
implementation
of
the
eli
brt,
which
will
happen
in
conjunction
with
this
project,
so
we
will
be
building
those
stations
and
have
planned
for
those
station
locations.
D
In
addition,
the
transportation
action
plan
again
that
was
recently
adopted,
hennepin
avenue,
is
on
our
transit
priority
network
moving
forward
in
terms
of
recommended
design.
Again,
as
jonette
mentioned,
we're
proposing
24
7
full-time
dedicated
transit
lanes
from
douglas
avenue
to
the
uptown
transit
station.
They
don't
extend
all
the
way
to
lake
because
of
the
issues
that
we
had
mentioned
earlier
regarding
just
capacity
short
block
links,
etc.
D
There
will
be
three
brt
stations
on
the
corridor,
so
three
station
locations,
six
total
stations
in
the
east
are
in
the
north
south
direction,
specifically
at
franklin
and
25th
street
for
the
new
and
then
we'd
be
using
the
existing
facilities
at
the
uptown
transit
station.
That
would
be
accompanied
by
a
reduced
number
of
local
stops,
which
is
typical
for
upgrades
to
brt
service.
D
I
should
also
mention,
too-
and
this
is
just
sort
of
a
random
statistic-
that
we
checked
for
transit
on
regarding
brt
ridership
through
the
end
of
2020.
The
brt
service
retained
76
of
the
pre-pandemic
ridership.
So
what
that
is
showing
is
that,
despite
the
fact
that,
due
to
the
pandemic,
there's
been
overall
reductions
in
transit,
ridership,
specifically
on
the
brt
corridors,
they
have
performed
extremely
well
at
nearly
76
percent
of
those
pre-pandemic
levels.
E
So
then,
looking
at
the
vehicle
design
a
couple
of
the
issues
in
the
existing
conditions,
there
are
two
vehicle
lanes
in
each
direction.
Those
two
vehicle
lanes
don't
necessarily
operate
very
well,
there's
buses
pulling
in
and
out
of
traffic.
So
you
often
see
vehicles
sort
of
changing
lanes
to
move
around
a
bus.
Then
there
are
frequent
left
turners
kind
of
in
that
left
of
the
two
through
lanes,
and
so
there's
also
a
lot
of
lane
changing
going
around
left
turners.
E
E
E
In
terms
of
parking,
there
are
311
on-street
parking
spaces
between
douglas
avenue
and
lake
street.
Today
we
did
also
look
at
the
overall
parking
resources
within
one
block
of
hennepin
avenue,
meaning
on-street
spaces,
parking,
lots
and
parking
ramps,
and
the
total
along
the
corridor
is
3600
spaces,
so
the
recommended
layout
includes
20
spaces
provided
in
parking
and
loading
bays,
and
we
certainly
recognize
that
that
is
not
not
enough
spaces
to
meet
some
of
the
the
business
and
the
resident
needs,
and
so
the
recommendation
includes
district
parking
solutions.
E
E
On
both
hennepin
and
on
other
streets,
that's
shown
on
the
graphic
on
this
slide
in
the
yellow,
shaded
blacks.
Those
are
sort
of
the
areas
we've
targeted.
Certainly
there
may
be
other
blocks
identified,
but
that
that
was
our
starting
point
and
those
were
really
identified
based
on
the
existing
parking
resources,
so
there
where
there
were
fewer
parking
spaces
in
lots
or
ramps
or
adjacent
to
businesses.
We
looked
at
this
district
parking
solutions.
E
There
are
a
number
of
things
that
are
not
addressed
on
the
recommended
layout,
so
we're
we're
still,
although
we've
been
going
for
a
couple
of
years
now
we're
still
relatively
early
in
the
design
process.
So
some
of
the
things
that
are
addressed
during
final
design
include
what
happens
in
the
green
space
that
does
include
the
pocket
parks.
E
The
recommended
design
layout
largely
leaves
the
pocket
parks
as
they
exist
today,
but
that
certainly
is
something
to
be
explored
in
final
design,
as
well
as
any
desires
for
enhanced
streetscape,
stormwater
and
green
infrastructure
is
addressed
later
in
design.
Some
of
the
intersection
design
details
and
then
construction
staging
as
well.
E
E
E
C
C
I'm
11
a
foot
just
for
taxes
in
my
little
building
on
28th
and
hennepin,
and
how
are
we
going
to
pay
those
taxes
when
we
can't
rent
50
of
the
building
with
this
type
of
thing
and
I'm
sure
there's
going
to
be
some
sort
of
a
an
assessment?
So
I
guess
my
question
is:
are
you
taking
into
consideration
the
comments
from
the
from
the
business
owners
in
your
process,
or
are
you
just
going
to
move
forward
for
a
vote
in
the
hell
with
the
business
owners.
D
I'll
start
and
then
maybe
I'll
pass
it
off
to
either
jonette
or
alan
just
to
kind
of
break
up
the
speaking.
This
is
an
informed
part
of
the
engagement
process
right,
so
we've
we've
done
rounds
of
engagement.
We've
received
thousands
of
comments
and,
yes,
we
have
considered
feedback
from
business
owners,
and
now
we
have
a
recommended
design,
so
the
recommended
design
certainly
can
be
tweaked
and
adjusted,
but
the
primary
elements
that
are
included
in
the
design
is
what
public
works
is
going
to
be
advancing
as
a
department.
D
In
terms
of
addressing
business,
parking
concerns,
etc,
you
know
we
obviously
just
talked
about
that
in
the
presentation.
So
if
there
are
specific
questions
you
know,
I
know
I
don't
know
alan
or
jonah
if
you
want
to
address
things
more
generally
than
we
did
already
in
the
presentation.
But
if
you
have
specific
comments,
we're
happy
to
address
those.
C
Well,
let
me
just
let
me
just
interject
with
you
it
so.
The
feedback
that
I
got
was
that
there
are
comments,
and
you
are
now
in
the
design
period,
and
you
don't
really
care
about
the
comments,
because
you,
the
designs,
don't
have
parking
so
what's
going
to
happen,
is
you're
going
to
the
businesses
you're
going
to
the
building
owners
and
then
you're
going
to
force
parking
into
the
neighborhoods
so
where
we're
going
to
have
to
have
critical
parking.
C
I
I
sit
on
humboldt
and
lagoon,
and
I
watch
the
bike
path
and
I
haven't
seen
one
bike
go
by
yet,
and
I
see
maybe
five
a
day
so
killing
the
businesses
for
bikes
just
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
and
then
we
just
sold
the
other
side
at
28th
and
hennepin
the
frataloni
hardware
building
that
was
our
family
building.
And
when
you
said
you
made
the
comment,
one
of
you,
people
made
the
comment
of
we
have
been
in.
We
have
been
in
collaboration
with
with
property
owners
for
closing
parking
accesses.
C
We
were
told
without
exception
that
we,
it
absolutely
had
to
close
one
of
the
two
driveways.
That
was
not
a
collaboration.
It
was
a
mandate
and
it
was
like
the
gestapo
we
had
to
close
one
of
our
driveways,
so
this
is.
This
is
a
very,
very
sad
commentary
on
on
how
things
are
going
and
I'm
extremely
disappointed
with
the
people,
with
the
lack
of
statistics
on
25
below
zero
weather
in
the
bike
lanes
and
killing
businesses
and
killing
uptown
further,
you
guys
single-handedly
killed
an
apple
store,
so
you
did
not
collaborate.
C
You
mandated
driveways
and
hennepin
avenue
is
65
years
old,
but
they
just
resurfaced
it
within
the
last
20
years.
So
you
guys
are
your
guys
are
dealing
off
the
bottom
of
the
deck
and
I'm
I'm
a
business
owner,
I'm
a
I'm,
a
property
owner,
I'm
a
person.
That's
bought
like
a
dog
to
maintain
minneapolis
property
owners,
values
and
lifestyles.
I
live
right
by
lake
of
the
aisles
I
watch
the
bike
lanes.
I
am
so
disappointed
with
with
the
way
you
guys
are
handling
this.
C
D
Can
I
answer
one
of
those
questions
actually,
michael,
so
steve
thanks.
I
just
want
to
speak
about
that
property
that
you
recently
sold
at
freda
loans,
janette,
and
I
had
conversations-
I
don't
think
ever
with
you.
We
had
them
with
a
prospective
buyer.
We
did
tell
him
that
we
wanted
the
curb
cut
closed
and
in
fact
we
were
able
to
come
to
a
solution
in
which
there's
actually
more
parking
in
that
parking
lot
as
a
result
of
the
closure
of
the
curb
cut,
so
it.
C
I
talked
to
howard
burger
road,
five
or
ten
times
a
day,
and
it
was
a
mandate
and
it
had
to
be.
You
had
to
figure
it
out
because
you
were
gonna
close
one,
no
matter
what
so
thank
you
for
adding
spaces
in
there,
but
it
was.
It
was
not
a
back
and
forth.
It
was
a
mandate
from
the
public
works
and
you
guys
are
tough,
so
I'm
I'm.
I
have
to
stay
away
from
it,
but
I
am
in
the
middle
of
this,
and
you
guys
are,
are
gonna.
A
B
Okay,
so
I
have
a
bunch
of
questions.
Is
that
okay,
michael
I'm,
not
trying
to
leave
room
for
everybody
else
at
the
end?
For
any
audience,
you
know
people
other
participants,
okay,
first
of
all,
is
it
safe
to
assume
that
the
goal
is
a
win-win
for
a
project
like
this
for
trying
to
get
to
a
win-win
for
different
interests?
Generally.
D
We're
always
striving
to
try
and
meet
the
goals
and
objectives
of
all
of
the
different
stakeholder
groups,
which
we've
expressed
to
you
on
numerous
occasions,
is
very
complicated
and
again,
as
we
mentioned
in
the
presentation,
it's
impossible
to
address
all
of
the
conflicting
comments
in
one
layout.
So
yes,
that
is
always
the
hope,
and
we
know
that
that's
not
always
possible,
especially
in
this
circumstance.
B
D
B
D
B
And
in
terms
of
the
policy
guidance,
could
we
specifically
can
you
specifically
sort
of
say
you
have
these
guidance?
You
have
these
goals
specifically
how
the
pro,
how
the
project
meets
those
goals,
given
the
concerns
by
the
business
community
helps
to
know
what
are
the
positives?
What
are
you,
what
are
you
achieving?
Could
you
be
specific
on
that.
D
Well,
I
can
tell
you
tom-
and
you
know
this
because
we've
had
probably
at
least
20
interactions
throughout
this
entire
process-
that
we've
got
all
of
the
information
regarding
policy
bases,
not
all
of
the
information
but
snippets
from
the
different
policies
in
the
earlier
presentations
right.
So
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
every
single
policy
document
that
we
showed
on
that
slide
in
which
there
are
eight
and
try
and
share
every
nuance.
But
what
I
can
say
is
that,
through
the
transportation
action
plan,
we've
got
mode
split
goals.
We
have
vmt
reduction
goals.
D
This
plan
helps
to
achieve
that.
There
are
also
many
other
goals
related
to
equity
as
it
relates
to
transportation
and
we
have
complete
streets,
which
is
a
hierarchy
for
how
we
prioritize
use
of
space
within
the
public.
What
right?
Right
of
way,
I
mean
it's!
It's
endless
and-
and
we've
talked
about
this
at
length
before
and
you
know,
I
either
encourage
you
to
review.
You
know
some
of
the
earlier
presentations
that
we
did
that
have
some
of
that
specific
policy
language
identified,
but
we've
gone
over
this
several
times.
D
G
I'll
just
jump
in
for
a
moment
if
I
may,
on
the
policies-
and
I
have
little
to
add
to
becca
other
than
maybe
I'll
say
something
from
my
own
words.
My
own
frame
of
mind
is,
I
think,
our
proposed
design
and
again
it's
the
proposed
design
of
the
public
works
department,
strongly
meets
city
council
policy
goals.
I
mean
I'll
just
say
that
very
directly.
As
becca
noted,
this
project
is
highly
policy
driven.
G
We've
shared
that
with
you,
it's
obviously
inferring
with
our
technical
analysis
and
the
public
feedback,
but
you
know
it
starts
with
the
policy
goals
and
every
single
design
element
that
we
have
in
here
strongly
pegs
back
to
what
those
goals
and
direction
are,
and
those
are
the
goals
and
directions
set
by
the
city
council
and
the
mayor
that
we
work
for,
and
that's
really
guided
us
for
two
years
here
so
I
mean
to
for.
I
just
want
to
send
that
up
any
question
relative
to
policy
and
what
drives
their
work.
G
B
B
G
G
B
G
B
B
It's
page
31
of
their
draft
of
their
transportation
policy
plan
amendment,
as
shown
in
table
12
on-road
mobile
source
emissions,
are
projected
to
be
significantly
lower
than
2015
performers
under
each
scenario
and
scenarios
are
with
current
or
with
the
projected
brt,
so
the
brts
are
thrown
in.
They
then
say
it
is
due
to
an
increase
in
electric
vehicle
adoption
and
a
vehicle
fleet
featuring
automobiles
that
glue
less
than
existing
automobiles,
so
met
council,
which
is
not
transit,
unfriendly
they're,
the
ones
who
operate
the
system
are
basically
saying:
electric
vehicles
are
driving
our
decreases.
B
What
is
your
plan?
Many
of
the
buildings
I'll
ask
some
other
questions
later
later.
What
does
your
plan
do
to
provide
many
of
the
buildings
such
as
ones?
I'm
involved
with
in
properties
do
not
have
places,
do
not
have
room
off
street
for
charging.
We
have
residents
80,
90
percent
of
our
residents
have
cars,
presumably,
hopefully
they're
going
to
convert
electric
cars
to
all
our
benefit.
Does
your
plan
allow
any
room
for
charging
stations
or
putting
something
on
the
thing
because
you've
overfilled
the
network?
G
B
Was
confused
yeah?
Potentially,
if
I
look
at
this
plan,
there's
no
room
to
add
that
in
the
future
and
you
have
a
whole
bunch
of
vintage
buildings
that
do
not
have
room
and
residents
who
do
need.
Cars
have
historically
had
cars.
We
surveyed
other
land
surveys,
80
to
90
percent
of
our
residents,
have
vehicles
or
buildings
what,
if
we're
thinking,
50
years
down
the
road,
what
provisions
thoughts
are
being
about
charging?
B
G
Yeah,
no,
I
I
think
you
appreciate,
I
think
I
better
understand
the
the
theme
of
your
questions.
Big
big
topic
here
right,
probably
could
be
all
to
our
discussion
itself.
Let
me
say
a
few
quick
things.
The
city
strongly
supports
electric
vehicles
and
charging
opportunities
for
those
vehicles.
I
think
you
may
be
aware
of
this.
We're
partnering
with
st
paul
that
was
part
of
the
federal
grant,
long
story,
but
we're
putting
in,
I
think
the
numbers
32
charging
stations
throughout
the
city.
I
might
be
wrong
with
that
number.
G
Please
don't
call
me,
but
it's
it's
in
the
tens
of
range,
it's
kind
of
phase,
one
we're
starting
to
roll
out
of
publicly
available
charging
stations.
Some
of
them
coexist
with
a
shared
car
system.
Some
of
them
are
for
fairly
private
use.
So
I
I
just
quick
point
here.
I
want
to
say
the
city
supports
electrification
and
to
the
degree
that
our
infrastructure
interacts
with
that.
You
know
we
support
that.
G
I
guess
where
maybe
question
part
of
your
assumption
is:
you
know,
we've
been
very
clear
in
terms
of
the
I'll
say
assignment
of
real
estate
along
hennepin
and
how
much
we
propose.
We
recommend
to
be
devoted
to
parking.
So
you
know
we
do
have
the
parking
bays
that
we're
proposing.
I
think
a
much
later
topic
would
be.
Do
they
or
do
they
knock
the
electrification,
but
I
don't
think
there's
any
momentum
to
say,
put
out
parking
along
hennepin
in
order
to
put
out
electric
charging
in
those
locations.
G
It
kind
of
goes
counter
to
our
our
use
of
curbs
based
on
real
estate
and
priority
of
modes
on
what
we
want
to
put
a
long
hand
up
on
so
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
a.
I
don't
know
what
I
said
just
kind
of
like
a
combination
of
issues
there
we
support
electrification
and
those
opportunities,
but
where
it
properly
fits
in
with
other
parking
resources.
I
think
that's
where
it
has
to
mesh.
B
Okay,
so
the
plan
really
yeah,
I
mean
what
I
just
heard
is
there's
no.
Despite
a
big
national
push
in
the
met
council.
Tell
me
if
I'm
wrong
push.
There
is
no
thought
giving
to
potential
along
this
busy
corridor
and
you
have
a
whole
bunch
of
residents
there.
What
do
we
do
for
in-
and
this
gets
to?
My
second
point
is
what
if
a
building
has
a
lot
of
parking
like
kowalski's
as
an
example,
they
were
on
the
call.
Yesterday
you
know
what
this
isn't
a
real
big
deal.
B
I
would
maintain
I'm
curious
if
you
agree
that
the
vintage
buildings,
the
ones
right
up
against
the
street,
provide
some
of
the
character
of
hennepin,
as
you
I'm
sure,
you're
well
familiar
with
the
project.
Is
that
a
fair
statement?
Am
I
totally
off
on
that
that
the
older
buildings
that
would
help
provide
the
character
of
the
city,
the
building,
steves
and
his
family?
Has
there
or
those
would
help
provide
the
character
of
the
street
and
keep
it
from
being
a
suburban
street.
G
B
B
E
B
Well,
the
point
is:
is
that
the
older
buildings
on
hennepin-
and
maybe
you
don't
want
to
acknowledge
that
or
recognize
that,
but
I
would
say
most
people
are
that's
what
gives
us
the
character
you
look
at
steve's
building
at
28th
and
hennepin,
it's
a
beautiful
building,
okay,
it's
what
gives
the
street
its
character.
I
mean
you
can.
If
you
want
strip
malls,
you
can
go
to
all
kinds
of
other
places.
Okay,
you
look
at
where
cafe.
B
G
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
for
jumping
in
time.
I
think
I
might
better
understand
your
question,
though,
and
I
think
one
thing
I
want
to
say-
and
I
know
this
came
up
in
the
call
yesterday.
I
think
it
bears
repeating
because
I
think
it
needs
to
be
said
is
that
you
know
we
do
want
to
work
with
the
businesses,
the
property
owners,
the
landlords,
the
tenants
and
we
want
to
preserve
the
businesses
and
work
with
them,
and
I
think,
let's
be
open
about
that.
Let's
be,
let's
be
partners.
G
I
think
there
needs
to
be
some
change
in
thinking.
If
the
parking
resources
change,
we're
not
saying
parking
is
going
away,
there's
going
to
be
a
change
in
operation,
a
change
in
opportunities
and
change
in
how
we
look
at
at
the
overall
corridor
into
joining
streets-
and
you
know
you
reference
cafe,
meow,
you
could
reference
many
others
steve,
I'm
just
not.
We
say
20th
and
hennepin.
You
have
to
say
which
corner
you
are
you
know,
so
I
know
exactly
what
we're
talking
about,
but
I
mean
we
are
absolutely
committed
and
I've
said
this
many
times.
G
I'm
very
sincere
about
this.
We're
absolutely
committed
to
working
with
the
business
associations,
the
special
service
districts,
every
individual
property
owner
to
understand
what
the
parking
needs
are
and
how
they
can
be
accommodated
through
a
system.
It
may
not
be
at
your
front
door
anymore,
but
how
it
can
be
accommodated
through
a
system
and
the
resources
in
the
corridor,
so
we're
not
walking
away
from
these
buildings.
G
I
don't
think
that's
a
fair
impression
and
we've
been
very
open
and
saying
you
know
I
mean
we
showed
the
graphic
with
the
side
street
parking
and
then
the
notion
of
district
parking,
we're
working
on
I'd,
say,
opportunities
and
activities
to
to
help
support
the
businesses,
and
I
think
there
just
needs
to
be
an
acknowledgement
of
that.
There
needs
to
be
a
partnership
you're
moving
forward
because
we're
willing
to
do
our
part
and
we've
communicated-
and
I
just
I
love
that
knowledge.
A
Oh
I'm
going
to
do
it,
I'm
in
here
tom
just
one
second,
we're
I'm
just
noting
we're
at
about
15
minutes
left
of
our
meeting
time.
I
just
wanted
to
check
in
with
the
board
members,
we
can
continue
with
board
q
a
otherwise
we
do
have
a
public
comment
period
on
the
agenda.
I
don't
know
if
any
of
the
members
any
of
the
guests
joining
us
want
to
address
the
board,
but
I
wanted
to
just
ask
what
the
how
the
board
would
like
to
proceed.
C
Yes,
you
know
it's
you,
you
say
that
you
want
to
work
with
the
building
owners
and
you're
you're,
taking
into
consideration
the
comments,
but
yet
you're
you're,
not
having
any
other
proposal
to
the
city
or
to
us
other
than
what
you've
got.
You've
got
one
proposal
and
then
you've
got
two
versions
of
the
same
proposal
that
does
not
sound
like
compromise
and
and
all
of
our
businesses
and
all
of
our
transportation
needs,
etc,
etc.
Has
changed
in
the
last
two
years
with
pandemics,
so
you
know
the
city
council.
C
You
keep
falling
back
on
we're
working
for
the
city
council
and
our
mayor
that
you
know
it's.
Those
things
have
all
changed
from
from
two
years
ago.
So,
if
you're
working
on
a
mandate,
you
have
to
be
able
to
be
flexible
with
the
times
and
right
now
we
are
trying
to
be
flexible
and
I've
got
50
of
the
building
vacant.
So
pushing
pushing
more
parking
on
28th
street
and
into
the
neighborhoods
is
going
to
cause
a
critical
parking
shortage.
We'll
have
to
have
stickers
for
the
neighbors.
We
don't
have.
C
We
don't
have
parking
for
in
front
of
our
house
on
28th
and
humboldt
now,
because
we've
got
huge
buildings
on
the
other
side
of
the
mall,
so
all
you're
doing
is
you're,
squeezing
you're,
squeezing
frosting
out
of
it
out
of
the
deal
and
into
different
places.
Without
coming
up
with
a
second
or
a
third
option.
You
have
two
options
and
they're
different.
B
Steve
things
have
been
going
on
for
two
years.
If
there
was
a
plan,
it
would
have
been
if
there
was-
and
I
think
it's
tough.
I
think
the
problem
is-
and
you
probably
know
as
well
as
I
do
to
say-
that
to
go
and
do
district
parking
is
a
lot
tougher
to
make
work.
Then
it
sounds
great,
but
the
devil
is
in
the
details
and
I
have
not
seen
if
the
city
is
initiating
a
project
and
taking
the
parking
off
the
street.
B
It
would
behoove
the
city
to
then
have
also
at
the
same
time
said:
okay,
we
know
this
is
coming
to
have
started,
putting
the
things
in
and
had
those
discussions
and
seeing
if
they're
property
owners
who
are
willing
to
make
their
properties
available
on
a
long-term
50-year
basis.
This
is
a
50-year
project
to
do
that,
and
I
have
not
seen
that
at
all
it's
great
to
talk
about
it,
but
it
would
be.
B
You
know,
you're,
going
down
this
road
and
there's
this
huge
elephant
in
the
room
that
gets
said:
hey
we're
gonna.
We
have
a
solution,
but
we
haven't
seen
hayden
or
here
no
one
thing
of
the
solution
yet
and
by
the
way
steve's
is
the
isle
fun
building.
That's
steve,
I'm
correct
right.
The
building
with
house
bun,
everybody
knows
where
else
bun
is.
The
point
is
that
I
don't
know
you
know
I
mean
then,
okay,
what's
the
solution
for
that
building
is
an
example.
You
know
in
terms
of
something
that
actually
works.
B
E
E
When
we're
talking
about
district
parking
solutions,
I
don't
think
the
city
is
proposing
to
acquire
private
property
or
use
private
property.
There
certainly
are
on-street
strategies
and
the
city
through
cped
or
other
departments,
may
be
able
to
facilitate
cooperation
between
private
property
owners.
But
the
city
is
not
planning
to
acquire
property
for
parking
just
to
clarify
that.
B
So
we
have
a
problem
normally,
if
I
have
a
problem,
that's
created
by
taking
away
on
street
parking
normally
what
I
would
hope
is
the
city.
Would
it
then
give
me
the
plan
for
before
going
down
the
road
of
that?
This
thing
would
give
me
the
plan
for
the
solution
to
the
problem,
so
that
we
could
see
and
evaluate
that
decide
whether
this
option
makes
sense.
B
So
I've
asked
a
bunch
of
questions
about
goals
whatever
I
have
not
in
this
whole
thing
received
one
single,
concrete
answer
or
to
my
questions
it's
always
been
well.
We've
talked
about
that
we've
heard
about
that.
I
just
fyi.
I
have
not
really
received
a
concrete
answer
or
solution,
but
yeah.
Okay,
thank
you.
D
I
don't
understand
that
last
comment
at
all
tom,
but
I
just
want
to
say
that,
in
regard
to
the
district
parking
solutions,
I
think
you
know
we
mentioned
this
yesterday.
I
don't
think
we
mentioned
that
today
on
this
meeting
you
know:
district
parking
solutions
are
different
for
the
city
right.
This
project
is
making
us
think
differently
about
parking
resources.
There
are
ordinances
that
we
need
to
change.
There's
cooperation
with
businesses,
this
project
isn't
starting
for
two
years.
We
have
the
time
to
do
it.
D
There
is
a
commitment
from
public
works
to
do
that,
and
we
know
that
from
discussions
with
our
management
and
leadership.
So
while
we
don't
have
every
answer,
we
expect
that
the
next
two
years
are
going
to
be
about
fleshing
out
these
district
parking
solutions
adjacent
to
the
corridor,
and
that's
just
a
fact.
So
there
we
have
time
to
do
this.
That
is
an
intent
of
the
project
team
to
continue
to
work
with
business
owners
and
we've
been
very
transparent
about
that.
A
A
A
A
If
I'm
steve,
could
I
just
sorry
because
we've
entered
the
public
comment
period?
Are
there
any
other
guests
who
have
joined
us
while
jacqueline
is
looking
on
our
phone?
That
would
like
to
make
a
comment
to
the
advisor
board,
no
obligation.
I
want
to
ask
the
question:
I
don't
see
any
aaron
aaron
aaron.
I
I
saw
your
hand
go
up
first,
so
aaron,
if
you're
able
to
you,
were
able
to
unmute
so
aaron
for
our
rules.
You
have
up
to
three
minutes.
H
Okay-
I
just
also
I
wanted
to
point
out-
I
think
it's
maybe
been
alluded
to,
but
not
so
explicit.
I
think
you
know.
I
think
it's
just
worth
entering
into
the
record
that,
based
on
the
conversations
that
I've
you
know,
I've
been
part
of
these
meetings
for
the
last.
You
know
for
the
entire,
basically,
the
entire
engagement
period,
the
last
year
and
a
half-
and
you
know
the
just.
I
think
it
just
bears
going
on
the
record,
at
least
that
you
know,
because
this
is
a
public
works
driven
project.
H
The
goals
are
very
much
in
my
you
know,
from
what
I've
been
able
to
tell
very
much
public
works
goals.
The
policies
that
they're,
following
as
I
can
tell
them,
are
very
much
public
works
types
of
policies,
it's
related
to
basically
bodies
move
through
a
corridor
in
different
modes
of
transportation
as
efficiently
as
possible
or
kind
of
the.
You
know
summary
of
the
goals.
I
know
you
know,
there's
other
things
out
there
like
climate,
which
you
know
again.
H
We
haven't
really
heard
specifics
on,
but
it's
you
know
it's
part
of
part
of
a
framework,
but
you
know
in
terms
of
where
I'm
going
with.
This
is
just
in
terms
of
how
they're
measuring
goals
and
how
they're
assessing
what
what's
successful
or
not
in
this
project.
I
don't
you
know,
I
don't
believe
there
are
any
kind
of
economic
development
types
of
goals
or
any
types
of
you
know
business
health
types
of
goals
that
they
that
they've
really
been
trying
to
work.
For.
H
So
I
think
the
solutions
that
were
shown
in
this
proposed
in
this
proposal,
I
think,
are
very
much
transit
and
transportation.
Oriented
types
of
you
know,
solutions
that
have
been
presented
and
they
just
don't
take
into
account.
I
think
other
objectives
that
the
city
might
have
in
terms
of
you
know
sort
of
what
a
vibrant
community,
no
economic
node
means.
So
I
I
I
don't
really
have
a
question
I
think,
and
certainly
if
it
sparks
the
conversation
or
someone
wants
to
speak
on
that
they
can.
H
A
A
I
Yeah,
so
we
support
tom
and
steve.
We've
lived
on
hennepin
avenue
for
17
years.
You
aren't
listening.
No
one
is
listening.
We
attended
an
open
house
in
march
of
this
past
year
and
it
was
the
same
thing.
The
details
will
come.
No,
we
haven't
looked
at
the
impact
on
neighborhoods
surrounding
neighborhoods.
Details
will
come,
everything
is
being
pushed
off
until
it's
it's
too
late.
You
say
you're
following
policy
goals
of
the
city
council,
that
was
a
city
council
that
advanced
personal
interest
over
the
interest
of
constituents.
I
We
have
a
new
city
council
now
and
many
of
us
are
going
to
be
involved
with
our
city
council
members
in
opposing
this
project.
I'm
not
sure
what
our
options
are,
but
you
need
to
start
listening.
You
said
you've
gathered
thousands
of
comments
and
and
there's
no
response,
there's
no
response.
We
rely
on
door
dash
shift
amazon
ups,
our
car
was
totaled
by
a
mill
cloud
last
year
and
we
decided
not
to
get
a
car,
so
we
rely
totally
on
uber
and
lyft.
I
We
need
parking
and
parking
in
front
of
our
building
and
I
I
don't
think
I
I
think
it
was
steve
who
said
you're,
you're,
crippling
uptown
for
the
sake
of
bicyclists,
and
I
know
bicyclists
who
don't
even
support
this
plan.
So
that's
all
I'll
say
we
will
continue
to
be
involved,
but
you
need
to
start
listening.
Thank
you.
A
F
Okay
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
say,
as
a
business
owner
hearing,
that
the
public
works
team
believes
that
they've
been
working
with
businesses
and
property
owners
is
laughable
to
me.
I
have
not
seen
that
at
all
and
I
don't
feel
that
when
you
said
business
needs
will
be
accommodated
by
the
system.
I
don't
see
that
either
and
I
think
tom
made
some
really
good
points
about
parking
as
well,
that
I
believe
the
team
of
public
works
needs
to
consider
for
my
business
and
the
business
is
my
building.
F
We
don't
have
a
back
door
and
it
was
basically
presented
that
dupont,
which
is
behind
our
building.
But
again
we
don't
have
a
back
door
or
access.
There
will
be
our
only
delivery
access
because
on
24th
and
on
hennepin
we
won't
have
any
ability
to
receive
deliveries
from
our
delivery
people.
For
my
business
cats.
F
You
know
we
get
cats
coming
in
they
every
single
day
and
they
won't
be
able
to
be
dropped
off
very
easily
or
picked
up,
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
walked
blocks
with
a
cat
in
a
carrier
in
the
cold
or
the
rain,
or
it
doesn't
make
for
a
good
job.
Sorry
a
good
time,
and
it
also
presents
issues
for
my
business
in
that
aspect
that
are
definitely
unique
to
me,
but
again
my
entire
building.
F
A
Any
we're
at
our
time,
but
I'll
just
ask
if
anybody
else
wants
to
any
other
guests.
Otherwise
we
can
close
the
public
comment
period
steve.
I
saw
you
raised
your
hand
and
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
the
team
member
project
team
members.
We
did
only
ask
you
to
be
here
till
10,
so
you
are
certainly
entitled
to
are
allowed
to
leave
the
advisory
board.
A
A
I
D
Just
as
a
reminder,
I
know-
jonat
mentioned
this
many
a
while
ago
in
the
presentation,
but
again
all
of
the
information
cross-sections
design
layout
the
details
of
the
recommendation.
All
of
those
things,
as
well
as
a
full
recording
of
the
presentation,
is
available
on
the
website.
So
if
you
can't
attend
or
don't
want
to
attend
and
prefer
to
share
your
comments
with
us
just
via
the
comment
form
that's
available
on
the
website,
you
can
also
do
that.
C
Okay,
yeah.
I
have
one
based
on
what
you
said:
the
recommendation
on
the
plan.
I
think
that
my
only
hope
is
that
it,
it
is
plural
instead
of
singular
right
now.
You
have,
in
my
opinion,
a
singular
plan
in
two
different
forms
and
not
a
third
or
a
fourth
option.
So
if
you
would
just
work
on
that,
instead
of
presenting
a
hard
and
fast
program
and
shutting
everything
down,
that
would
be
very
appreciative
to
me.
D
D
You
know
the
feedback
that
we've
heard
in
the
past
is
that
they
that
at
least
from
you
know
from
what
we've
heard
from
tom
is
that
he
wants
the
street
rebuilt
as
is,
and
that's
not
with
with
transit
improvements
as
part
of
the
brt,
but
essentially
the
same
cross
section,
and
that's
that's
not
that's,
never
been
on
the
table
and
it's
nothing
that
we've
been
able
to
move
forward
with
again.
This
is
a
project
that
has
much
newer
policy
guidance
than
when
this
was
constructed
65
years
ago.
D
B
B
Businesses
have
virtually
universally
expressed
displeasure
with
the
proposed
option
and
its
impact
on
them.
Despite
requests
for
from
the
city
from
public
works
for
details
of
how
the
proposed
project
supports
the
city's
goals,
they
have
not
been
able
to
provide
those
details,
and
we
would
therefore
respectively
request
that
another
more
business
friendly
resident
friendly
option
be
prepared.
A
C
C
B
J
Not
recommend
or
not
be
in
support
of
the
current
design,
with
a
desire
for
a
new
plan
to
be
brought
forward
by
public
works.
I
I'm
just
trying
to
think
yeah
in
terms
of
the
purview
of
this
board
where
your
jurisdiction
lies
and
clearly
you
can
make
a
motion
that
is
not
in
support
of
what
was
just
presented
with
the
ask
that
a
new
proposal
will
be
brought
before
the
city
council.
Michael
some
thoughts
on
that,
because.
J
A
J
A
A
A
C
A
A
Our
with
that,
we
have
concluded
our
agenda
and
we
are
10
minutes
over
our
time.
So
out
of
respect
for
everyone's
time,
I'll
I'll
ask
if
there's
a
motion
to
adjourn
and
other
than
to
add
that
we
are
finalizing
our
2022
meeting
schedule
and
we
will
be
sending
out
a
hold
the
date
for
the
spring
meeting
and
the
advisory
board
just
wanted
everybody
to
know
that
also
it
is
possible
but
unlikely
that
our
next
meeting
would
be
held
remotely.