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A
Good,
the
regular
meeting
of
the
dinky
town
special
service
district
advisory
board
will
now
begin
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
mike
mclaughlin
and
I
will
be
facilitating
this
meeting
of
the
dinky
town
special
service
district
advisory
board.
Before
we
begin
I'd
like
to
note
that
this
meeting
includes
the
remote
participation
of
members
as
authorized
under
me,
so
the
statute
section
13d
0.021,
due
to
the
declared
local
health
pandemic.
I
will
now
call
this
meeting
to
order
and
call
the
roll
so
that
we
may
verify
the
presence
of
a
forum
board
members.
A
A
Good,
I
also
also
note
I'm
joined
by
carlson
and
david
bauer,
both
with
the
city
minneapolis
department
of
public
works
there
being
a
forum
of
board
members
present.
We
can
proceed
with
the
meeting.
The
first
item
and
again
the
packet
was
distributed
in
advance
of
the
meeting
is
the
adoption
of
the
agenda.
A
draft
agenda
was
included
and,
if
desired,
we
can
also
in
one
motion
except
the
minutes
of
the
last
meeting,
which
was
july
13
2021.
A
I
didn't
think
I
heard
you
first
any
further
discussion
on
the
the
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
and
the
giraffe
minutes
to
the
july
meeting
last
year.
Hearing
none,
I
will
call
the
role
boy.
Remember
when
I
say
your
name,
please
indicate
how
you'd
like
to
be
reported
as
voted
jeff
ashland.
A
B
C
A
Good
that
motion
of
the
agenda
and
the
the
minutes
to
the
prior
meeting
have
been
approved
as
distributed
next
on
the
agenda
is
the
public
comment
period?
I
will
note
that
as
of
right
now,
we
have
not
been
joined
by
any
members
of
the
public,
but
we
can
table
that
until
the
end
of
the
meeting
should
someone
join
us
and
otherwise
we'll
keep
going
and
keep
moving
here.
The
next
item
is
a
very
brief
discussion
item
on
the
2021
annual
report.
A
I
am
going
to
share
my
screen,
so
included
in
the
packet
was
the
2021
in
report.
This
has
been
previously
distributed
to
the
advisory
board.
It
also
recently
went
to
city
council
and
was
approved
by
the
the
accepted
and
received
and
filed
by
the
city
council.
A
Again
this
is
the
bookend
document
on
the
the
beginning
before
the
year
starts,
there's
an
operating
plan
that
says
what
the
advisory
board
plans
to
do
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
year
we
do
a
brief
annual
report
to
encapsulate
what
the
group
did
so
there's
an
overview
at
the
beginning.
There's
members
mark
edwards.
I
will
notice
no
longer
on
the
board
and
the
role
of
the
board
and
then
books,
I'm
gonna
zoom
in
here.
A
There
we
go,
we
do
a
real,
quick
summary
of
services
to
again
just
try
to
capture
everything
that
the
group
did
and
the
advisory
board
with
the
advisory
board
accomplished.
So
we
did
have
almost
41
inches
of
snow
last
calendar
year.
We
of
course,
did
the
tree
lighting.
A
A
As
part
of
your
2022
work
plan,
litter
management
there
were
almost
11
000
bags
of
trash
removed
from
the
district's
60
district
maintained
trash
receptacles
over
the
course
of
the
year
painted
broom,
so
sidewalk
litter
removal
was
completed,
performed
36
times
over
the
course
of
the
year,
so
about
an
average
of
three
times
a
month.
But
it
was
actually
more
in
the
summer
and
less
frequently
in
the
in
the
winter,
based
on
prior
conversations
with
the
advisory
board,
which
removed
an
additional
161
bags
of
trash
as
part
of
those
services.
A
And
then
there
were
spring
and
fall
cleanups
that
were
also
performed
in
in
april
and
november
of
last
year,
too
far
as
street
pool
banners
again,
you
have
a
placeholder
in
your
budget,
but
that
was
not
something
the
board
had
recommended
last
year
and
then
quickly
on
streetscape
maintenance
and
repair
graffiti
abatement
was
performed
as
needed
just
january
through
december.
Again,
this
is
graffiti
abatement
of
elements
in
the
public
right-of-way,
not
on
private
property,
so
we
removed
over
1300
instances
of
graffiti
over
the
course
of
the
year.
A
We
watered
some
young
trees
throughout
the
growing
season
and
there
were
also
some
minor
streetscape
fixtures,
including
removal
of
some
abandoned
bicycles,
which
we
do
every
year
and
replace
some
trash,
receptacle,
lids
and
lanyards,
and
things
like
that.
So
again,
real
high
level
wanted
to
just
capture
what
what
the
group
accomplished
financially
I'm
on
the
next
page.
Here
again,
you
have
this
in
your
packet,
the
the
budget.
The
amendment
budget
was
217
282,
the
actual
spend
was
155
000
604.
A
So
there
was
a
a
carry
forward
surplus
of
a
little
over
62
000
that
has
been
incorporated
and
carried
forward
into
your
2022
budget.
That
you'll
see
yeah,
amended
or
adjusted
in
just
a
moment,
and
the
final
page
of
this
is
just
the
service
area
plan
of
where
the
the
particularly
the
snow
and
the
pain
and
room
services
are
performed,
not
necessarily
where
the
lighting
is
performed.
A
A
Moving
on
to
2022
so
again,
the
first
column
is
the
budget
that
the
group
had
recommended
and
went
to
council.
This
is
the
budget
you
recommended
last
summer
for
this
year.
The
adjustments
reflect
that
those
carry
forward.
Dollar
amounts
that
I
was
just
talking
about.
A
So
your
surplus
run
funds
from
2022
consistent
with
what
we've
done
in
the
past,
we've
allocated
those,
at
least
for
placeholder
purposes,
to
your
sidewalk
snow
line
item
and
your
tree
line
item,
but
know
that
we
do
have
flexibility
to
to
spend
those
dollars
under
any
of
these
budget
line
items
if
desire.
A
So
your
amended
budget
is
262
678
and
again,
I
will
note
the
service
charge
amount
did
not
change
the
surplus
funds
or
prior
surplus
funds,
so
the
service
charge
revenue
that
will
be
collected
this
calendar
year
is
still
the
the
dollar
amount
recommended
by
the
advisory
board
last
summer,
which
is
and
one
thousand
dollars.
A
A
So
again
that
was
a
recommendation
that
the
advisory
board
had
made
was
last
summer,
so
we
implemented
that
two
weeks
ago
and
that
will
continue
through
november
30th,
the
so
again
that's
weekly,
pin
and
broom
of
the
district
and
then
over
the
winter,
we'll
switch
back
to
every
other
week.
So
there's
a
little
bit
lower
frequency
when
the
pet
volumes
are
a
little
lower
in
the
district
graffiti
abatement.
A
We're
currently
also
doing
that
once
a
week
in
the
summer,
which
is
what
the
frequency
that
we
had
in
place
for
the
last
summer,
so
that'll
be
in
place
for
this
summer,
and
that
has
already
started
at
that
higher
frequency.
We
were
doing
it
twice
a
month
prior
to
that
moving
on
streetscape
maintenance
contract.
We
wanted
you
to
know
that
that
was
rebid
last
summer
and
went
into
effect
january
1st.
A
The
contractor
ended
up
being
the
same,
and
the
pricing
pretty
much
stayed
flat,
and
this
might
surprise
you,
but
we
actually
saw
some
unit
prices
go
down
slightly
so
there
with
everything
going
on
with
inflation
in
the
economy
in
terms
of
re-bidding
it
we
expect
the
service
costs
to
be
very
similar
to
the
last
calendar
year.
A
I
will
note
that
if
we
do
extend
that
contract
going
into
next
year,
there
is
a
consumer
price
index,
not
automatic,
but
there
is
an
ability
to
increase
those
prices
to
reflect
and
reflect
cpi
increases
moving
on.
So
I'm
doing
this
quick
just
because
I
know
everyone's
got
time,
but
please
stop
me
if
you
have
questions
snow
contract.
That
was
also
rebid
pricing,
for
that
also
stayed
pretty
pretty
similar
to
prior
years
of
the
so,
and
you
did
end
up
with
the
same
contractor
again.
A
That
was
following
a
competitive
bid
process.
The
the
contractor
that
had
your
work
ended
up
being
the
lowest
responsive
and
response
computer.
So
they
continued
that
work
for
this
last
winter
season,
which
I
will
note,
is
continuing
as
we
speak
very
lightly.
The
any
feedback
on
the
the
snow
contract
we
do
build
that
in
so
that
their
the
city
has
the
option
to
extend
that
for
an
additional
second
or
third
winter
season,
any
feedback.
C
A
D
C
I
think
they're
going
crazy
on
the
salt
and
they
even
salted
like
a
week
ago
and
just
mountains
of
salt,
and
I
was
catering
at
the
varsity
theater,
and
there
was
just
this
huge
trail
of
salt
going
down
the
middle
of
the
sidewalk
last
saturday
of
the
night,
and
I
think
they're
very
careless
with
the
salt
and
I
think
in
the
in
the
interest
of
saving
money
on
salt.
I
think
they
should
be
less
careless.
C
You
mentioned
to
me
the
liability
issues
about
slipping
and
falling,
and
I
respect
that
and
I
get
it,
but
I
think
that
the
the
people
doing
it
need
to
be
called
out
on
this
salt
application,
because
they're
they're
throwing
a
lot
of
product
away
and
not
because
I'm
sweeping
it
up.
They're,
just
they're,
just
laying
it
on
so
heavy
that
it's
it's
mindless
and
I
don't
think
it
should
continue.
A
I
I
will
note
that
we
do
require
the
and
then
I
know
you
and
I
spoke
offline.
The
contractor
is
required
to
have
the
bin
dot
deicing
application
certification,
and
they
do
do
that
part
of
what
we
experience
and
I'm
just
describing,
and
we
did
go
out
and
look
at
things
after
you
had
reached
out
to
us,
as
we
would
with
anybody,
would
contact
us
with
any
concerns
like
this
there's
a
couple
of
things
that
are
happening,
one.
They
they're
live
their
response.
A
They
accept
the
liability
when
they
take
on
the
contract
for
slip
and
falls.
So
while
you,
the
district,
doesn't
pay
extra
for
like
on
a
per
time.
De-Icing
application
so
know
that
the
vendor
is
applying
the
chemical
that
they
feel
they
need,
and
we
have
talked
to
them
to
be
clear.
A
The
chemical
they
feel
is
appropriate
for
their
what
their
commensurate
with
their
liability.
That
they're
taking
on
part
of
what
happens
is
sometimes
they
proactively
apply
chemical
to
help,
keep
it
from
bonding
well
before
we
get
a
snowfall.
The
other
thing
that
can
happen
and
things
that
can
happen
are
snow,
sometimes
comes
off
of
awnings
and
or
buildings
and
parapets
and
other
things
that
come
that
falls
on
the
sidewalk.
A
A
They
stay
in
the
liability
loop,
so
that's
partly
why
they
apply
as
much
chemical
as
they
do
so
it
if,
but
we
please
know
that
we
do
talk
to
all
our
vendors
about
the
amount
of
chemical
that's
applied
and
again
we
do
require
the
contract
that
they
follow,
the
that
they
not
that
they
have
mndot
deicing
certification,
which
part
of
that
is
very
much
aimed
at
applying
enough
chemical
that
you
need
to,
but
not
more
than
you
need
to
other
feedback
on
the
snow
contract.
A
A
Moving
on
electrical
system
repairs,
I
wanted
to
talk
about.
As
I
mentioned,
we've
had
a
unique
year
with
a
seasonal
lighting
perspective
in
part
because
of
construction
projects
and
due
to
some
repair
issues.
So
there
are
a
couple
of
projects
that
we
weren't
able
to
complete
in
the
middle
of
winter
because
of
just
the
ground
being
frozen,
and
it's
not
real
conducive
to
trying
to
make
sure
conduit
is
clear,
and
things
like
that
that
we
are
going
to
take
on
this
spring
with
the
electrical
contractor.
A
One
of
them
is
on
the
north
side
of
the
marshall.
We've
got
an
electrical
issue
there
we're
able
to
get
it
powered,
but
it
isn't
quite
working
how
we
want
there's.
Also
another
location
on
floor
street
happens
to
be
in
front
of
a
lynn's
restaurant,
where
there
were
some
trees
that
we
couldn't
get
power
to
because
it's
broken
or
what
we
perceive
is
some
failed
conduit
underneath
the
sidewalk.
A
So
there
are
a
couple
of
places
where
we're
going
to
have
to
open
up
a
couple
of
sidewalk
panels
to
make
that
conduit,
repair
and
re-establish
those
electrical
connections
so
know
that
those
are
on
the
on
the
docket
for
this.
For
this
spring,
separate
from
that,
we
are
pleasing.
I
was
going
to
mention
this
in
a
minute,
but
we
are
working
with
the
the
ca
ventures
project
to
we'll
be
reinstalling
the
electrical
system.
As
part
of
that
redevelopment,
the
developer
will
pay
for
that
cost.
A
So
that's
not
an
ssd
cost,
but
know
that
it
will
be
reinstalled
so
that
there's
power
on
the
trees
just
like
there
was
prior
to
construction,
and
that
is
something
we're
working
with
with
that
contractor
with
that
developer.
Similarly,
with
the
with
with
the
other
project
on
on
tour
street
that
that's
underway,
we're
still
trying
to
get
line
of
sight
on
whether
how
much
on
in
the
right
of
way
they're
going
to
be
doing.
A
Obviously,
it's
blocked
away
block
right
now,
but
that'll
be
another
item
that
will
maybe
do
some
work
on
that
projects
may
have
and
there
there
are
a
couple
other
locations
where
there's
just
some
electrical
issues
that
we're
gonna
need
to
tend
to
that
could
be
done
in
the
middle
of
winter.
Any
questions
on
the
electrical
system
repairs
anything.
A
Yeah
so
great
question,
so
we
were
able
we
worked
with
riverton
and
brian
and
his
team,
and
we
were
able
to
get
lights
on
one
of
the
trees
on
the
north
end
of
the
block
up
near
fifth
street
on
the
west
side
of
the
street.
There
we,
the
the
other
trees
we
either
were
too
small
or
we
weren't
able
to
give
power
to
them.
D
A
So
I
think
the
goal
would
be
over
time.
If
we
could
work
with,
you
know,
continue
to
work
with
riverton.
If
we
can
get
power
there
safely,
meaning
from
a
lot.
You
know
long
term
perspective,
all
the
the
lighting's
on
the
trees
we
we
we
will
certainly
try
to
do
that,
so
the
segwaying
a
little
bit.
We
wanted
to
ask
the
question
and
I'll
preface
this
by
saying:
we
don't
have
to
do
this,
but
we
wanted
to
ask
the
group
the
question.
A
We
did
a
pilot
prior
to
construction
in
front
of
in
front
of
the
the
liquor
store
on
fifth.
That's
now,
no
longer
there
we
did
a
pilot
with
led
stringers
on
the
trees,
so
we
wanted
it's
still
early
enough
in
the
year
that
if
the
group
wanted
to
recommend
converting
over
to
led
light
stringers
for
the
this
upcoming
lighting
season,
we
we
believe
we
still
would
have
an
opportunity
to
purchase
the
lighting
material
in
time
to
to
get
those
up.
This
fall
so
wanted
to
ask
the
group
again.
A
We
did
a
pilot.
We
talked
about
this
in
the
past.
We
did
a
pilot
on
a
couple
of
trees.
The
pilot
was
successful.
We
had
very
few
issues,
the
light
you
know
the
stringers
were
on
when
we
wanted
them
on
and
overall
the
the
aesthetic
was
was
consistent,
if
not
better
than
the
incandescents.
C
A
Yeah,
so
it
was
about
a
year
and
a
half
and
then
construction
happened
and
it
came
down.
So
so
I
think
that
that
is
how.
A
Yeah,
so
this
is
honestly
partly
why
we're
mentioning
this,
not
honestly,
because
we're
always
honest
with
you
guys,
but
we
have
had
two
districts
now
who
do
a
lot
of
tree
lighting
they've.
These
two
districts
went
converted
over
to
led
one
four
seasons
ago
and
one
one
season
ago,
and
both
have
had
very
good
success
with
converting
going
switching
over
to
leds
the
lights,
because
they're
solid
state
are
much
less
prone
to
water
intrusion
and
therefore
there
are
many
fewer
gfi
faults,
which
means
there
are.
A
You
know,
maybe
five
percent
a
year
for
the
last
couple
of
years
and
even
heading
into
their
fifth
season
this
year
we
will
not
have
to
do
a
hundred
percent
replacement,
we'll
we
will
need
to
buy
some
replacement,
so
it's
still
sort
of
an
ongoing
pilot.
But
right
now
our
it
is
very
clear
signs
that
we
can
get
at
least
four
seasons,
and
these
are
four
six
month
seasons
to
be
clear
because
the
other
districts
don't
have
put
them
up
in
the
fall
and
take
them
down
in
in
late
winter.
A
That
we've
had
good
success
with
the
leds
and
aesthetically
it's
equal
to,
if
not
better.
So
just
the
visual
representation,
the
bright
side,
the
lights
actually
have
are
a
little
bit
brighter.
So
there's
a
little
bit
better
aesthetic
benefit,
and
I
would
say
again
the
you
know
one
of
the
things
we
do
during
the
lighting
season,
at
least
the
core
lighting
winter
season
is.
A
We
have
the
contractor
go
through
once
a
week
and
reset
gfis
in
both
of
those
districts,
and
I
don't
want
to
overstate
this,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
I
can,
the
incidences
of
gfi
fault
is
dramatically
different.
I
mean
like
their
lights
are
just
on
when
they
want
them
on.
For
the
most
part,.
A
Yep,
it's
it's
effectively
based
on
recent
bidding
two
and
a
half
times
so
the
same
stringer
for
led
is
two
and
a
half
times
the
cost
of
an
incandescent.
A
So
in
the
case
of
those
districts
that
have
switched
over
the
break-even
point,
all
things
all
all
costs
in
you
know:
lower
electrical
costs,
but
lower
maintenance
cost.
Some
increased
storage
costs
things
like
that.
The
break-even
point
appears
to
be
the
third
season,
and
at
this
point
it
we
have
had.
We
can
say
that
the
stringers
make
it
for
the
most
part
at
least
three
seasons
so
financially
over
time.
A
It
is,
it
is
the
same,
if
not
to
some
degree
a
lower
cost
to
the
district,
but
it's
not
more
over
time
is
what
I
think
we're
comfortable.
A
A
Yes,
more
than
enough,
in
fact,
we
did
a
rough
estimate
because
we
figured
the
question
of
all
what
kind
of
money
are
we
talking
if
we
lit
so
this
the
season
that
we
just
concluded
the
we
lit
about
59
trees?
Now
I
so
there
are
more
trees
in
the
district
than
that
to
be
clear,
but
at
the
end
of
the
season,
that's
what
we
removed,
because
a
lot
of
that
was
due
to
construction.
As
I
was
mentioning
a
little
while
ago,
rough
costs
to
buy
leds.
A
D
A
E
Yeah
yeah
I'd
like
to
get
her
feedback
on
this.
Let's
come
back
to
this
then,
hopefully
she
can
rejoin
us,
but
I
mean
I
mean
you'd
have
a
majority
to
go
forward,
but
let's
maybe
just
come
back
to
the
to
that
topic
when
she
returns.
D
Yeah,
I
mean
the
one
thing
I
remember:
the
people
were
sensitive
last
year
was
businesses
were
hurting,
and
lynne
can
probably
speak
to
that.
She
can
speak
to
that
better
than
I
can.
She
talks
to
more
of
those
people
that
owned.
You
know
one
store
if
we're
not.
If
we're
gonna
have
to
increase
the
dues,
it
probably
would
change
my
mind,
but
if
we
can
use
our
surplus
to
do
it
not
have
to
raise
people's
rate
for
this
year
and
buy
the
lights
I'd
like
to.
A
There
that
there's
no
question,
that's
a
true
statement
at
this
point,
meaning
we
can
absolutely
utilize
some
of
that
surplus.
In
fact,
the
the
surplus
on
almost
by
itself,
without
dipping
into
the
you
know,
the
original
22
000
we
had
in
the
budget
by
almost
buying
the
lights
by
bye,
almost
all
of
the
lights.
A
So
all
right,
we
will
proceed
with
that.
I
should
know
because
of
the
failure
issues
we
were
having
with
the
incandescents.
We
have
removed
all
the
lights.
At
this
point
we
did
a
couple
weeks
ago,
we
were
just
having
too
high
a
failure
rate
with
the
incandescent
stringers,
so
you
do
not
have
lights
on
the
trees.
A
At
this
point,
so
typically,
we
put
them
up
in
september
kind
of
as
school
returns
so
based
on
this
feedback,
we'll
go
ahead,
get
the
order
in
and
then
we'll
kind
of
plan
on
reinstalling
the
lights
in
in
august
that
in
sort
of
late
august,
so
that
they're
in
place
where
for
the
upcoming
school
year.
So
any
further
questions
on
that.
I
am.
A
Okay,
great,
let's
see
we
mentioned
in
the
development
projects,
anything
else
on
the
2022
work
plan.
Otherwise
we
can
move
on
to
discuss
the
draft
2023
word
plan.
A
Other
than
you
know,
I've
described
all
the
other
services.
Everything
else
is,
you
know,
described
in
terms
of
streetscape
maintenance
and
the
graffiti
abatement,
frequency
and
so
forth.
So
please
know
that,
though,
if
we're
not
going
into
detail
now,
please
know
it's
it's
already
in
motion
and
the
contractor
has
already
been
given
the
instructions-
and
I
think
we've
said
this
in
the
past,
but
just
to
say
it
again.
We
do
meet
with
the
district's
streetscape
maintenance
contractor
every
week
and
oftentimes
we're
talking
to
them
much
more
frequently
than
that.
A
So
just
so,
you
know
that
we
we're
in
very
close
contact
with
the
vendors
and
similar.
That
is
true.
In
the
winter
we
meet
with
the
snow
contractor
once
a
week
as
well
at
least
once
a
week,
and
certainly
before
so
moving
on
2023
budget,
a
draft
budget
was
included
in
the
in
the
packet
as
we
do
each
year
I
went
through
and
compared
to
where
we
ended
the
year
most
recently
completed,
which
is
2021
to
see.
A
If
there's
anything
that
needs
to
be
adjusted
either
up
or
down,
based
on
that
analysis,
recognizing
that
you
know
if
we
don't
need
to
go
in
with
an
increased
service
charge,
we
certainly
we
don't
automatically
do
that
so,
based
on
all
of
that,
the
draft
recommended
budget
is
is
flat
in
terms
of
the
service
charge
revenue,
so
there'll
be
no
increasing
service
charges
in
this
budget
as
drafted,
and
the
the
work
plan
as
described
and
is
understood
by
the
board,
can
still
be
funded
through
the
these
resources
and
I'm
happy
to
go
through.
A
It
is
the
all
the
line
items
proposed
are
the
same,
and
but
please
know
that
there
was
that
wasn't
just
change
the
year
in
terms
of
the
budget
and
includes
also
based
on
some
analysis.
A
So
one
question
we
had
these
again
wanted
to
ask
the
the
the
question
of
the
condition
of
the
pedestrian
lights
has
come
up
in
conversation
since
the
board
last
met
last
summer
and
this
the
maintenance
of
the
the
light
poles
very
much
falls
into
the
category
of
it
is
something
the
district
could
allocate
dollars
towards
if
the
advisory
board
wanted
to
recommend
it,
meaning
it's
an
eligible
use
of
your
service
district
costs.
A
However,
it
is
the
service
district
is
not
the
responsible
party,
so
the
responsible
party
for
the
light
poles
and
the
maintenance
of
the
light
bulbs
and
primarily
referring
to
the
aesthetic
so
the
the
paint
is
that,
given
the
age,
the
paint
is
is
chipping
on
a
lot
of
the
bases.
The
primary
responsible
party
is
the
traffic
division
within
public
works
and,
as
is
needed,
they
are
and
have
replaced
the
low-level
poles
with
the
new
city's
new
15-foot
pedestrian
light
standard.
A
That
so
thank
you.
A
No
worries
we
didn't.
There
was
no
action
item
taken
in
your
absence,
so
I
was.
We
were
just
reviewing
the
2023
budget.
A
Oh
tree
lighting,
the
recommendation
was
well
at
least
the
consensus
seemed
to
be
to
proceed
with
converting
over
to
leds
for
the
upcoming
lighting
season.
Any
comments
on.
A
C
A
C
A
Okay,
the
other
comment
I
had
made
was
because
of
the
failure
rate
of
the
incandescence.
We
did
remove
all
the
tree
lighting
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
so
normally
we,
that
is
something
the
district
has
left
up
year-round,
but
the
failure
rate
we
were
seeing
was
so
high.
A
We
just
removed
them
so
we'll
order
the
the
lights
and
the
plan
will
be
to
put
them
in
assuming
we
have
them
in
which
we
think
we
can,
at
this
point,
we'll
put
we'll
start
putting
them
up
in
august,
so
they're
there
for
the
the
new
the
start
of
the
new
school
year.
A
So
the
let's
see
I'm
back
on
2023
of
everybody's
comfortable,
jumping
back
to
that
we
were
just
discussing
lena
just
so
you
have
a
sense.
I
was
describing
that
overall,
this
is
a
flat
budget.
We
feel
we
can
accomplish
the
the
work
of
the
district,
at
least
as
the
current
work
of
the
district
in
the
existing
budget
and
that
their
at
least
in
draft
format.
There
would
not
be
a
reason
to
propose
increasing
the
service
charges.
A
One
item
in
the
context
of
the
2023
budget
that
I
was
just
discussing
and
again
falls
into
the
category
I
was
saying,
is
not
a
district
responsibility,
but
it's
something
that
is
an
eligible
use.
If
you,
if
the
group
wanted
to
allocate
dollars
to
refurbish
your
like
your
pedestrian
light
pole
bases,
which
has
been
an
item
that
has
been
raised
since
the
group
last
met
last
july
by
some
in
the
community.
A
So
we
wanted
to
ask
the
question-
and
you
know
at
least
have
a
conversation
if
it's
something
you
wanted
to
spend
some
dollars
on
either
refurbishing
them
or
beginning
a
process
of
replacement.
But
again
I'll
stress.
A
The
district
does
not
have
to
spend
dollars
on
this.
It
can.
The
the
traffic
division
within
public
works
is
the
primary
responsible
party
and
I
will
know
like
there's
a
look,
there's
a
hole
that
what
has
been
replaced.
I
think
in
the
last
12
months,
right
at
the
corner
in
front
of
your
restaurant,
for
example,
on
fourth
street,
that
that's
an
example
where,
as
needed,
the
traffic
division
is
replacing
pools.
A
C
A
Good
again
wanted
to
ask
the
question,
since
it
is
something
that
had
been,
I
mean.
Certainly,
we
were
aware
of
it
before
we've
actually
talked
about
this
before,
but
wanted
to
just
ask
the
question
again
any
other
discussion
on
the
2023
draft
budget.
A
Someone
like
is
there
a
motion
to
adopt
the
the
2023
budget
and
we're
planning,
as
drafted.
A
That
I
will
take
a
roll
called
vote.
Call
your
name.
Please
indicate
how
you'd
like
to
be
recorded.
As
voting
on
the
motion
to
approve
the
20
20
20
2023
budget
jeff.
C
A
Good
that
motion
is
adopted,
and
that
will
be
the
2023
budget
recommendation
like
in
all
past
years
of
the
district.
There
will
be
a
the
notice
will
be
sent
to
all
of
the
property
owners
in
the
fall.
A
Typically,
that's
happened
in
september
that
will
that
notice
will
include
both
the
dollar
amount
for
the
property
owners
particular
parcel
or
parcels
if
they
own
more
than
one,
along
with
the
proposed
operating
plan
for
2023,
so
no
and
then
they're
that
included
in
that
is
the
notice
for
the
public
hearing
that
will
be
held
before
the
city
council.
A
I
will
also
note
just
a
one
final
board
administration
item,
although
subject
to
what
happens
in
the
world
and
with
the
with
the
pandemic,
we
are
switching
over
to
in-person
meetings
in
two
weeks
by
requirement
of
the
city
clerk's
office,
so
the
timing
of
when
you
get
your
meeting
was
on
the
schedule.
A
C
I
have
a
question
please.
I
would
have
voted
anyway
for
the
led,
but
when
you
you
remark
that
you've
taken
down
all
the
lights
is
that
we
don't
usually
have
all
the
lights
come
down
or
do
we
in
the
spring?
I
can't
remember
no.
A
You're
correct:
normally,
we
leave
them
up
until
till
august
until
we
we
take
them
down
unless
the
cardboard
is
doing
pruning,
in
which
case
we'll
remove.
For
that
reason,
because
we
don't
want
them
to
ruin
them.
What
we
found
this
year,
though,
is
one.
The
failure
rate
was
very
high
of
the
incandescent
stringers
and
two,
and
I
can
pull
up
a
map
if
it's
helpful,
we
we
have
due
to
construction
there,
that
we
just
weren't
able
we
aren't
able
to
get
as
many
trees
lit
as
we
have
in
the
past.
C
C
A
A
The
yellow
are
the
trees
that
we
have
power
to
currently
or
did
have
power
to
at
the
end
of
the
by
the
end
of
the
season,
so
the
yellow
or
lit
the
red
either
don't
have
there's
an
acute
issue
of
why
we
can't
give
power
to
them
or
there's
a
long-term
issue
of
why
we
can't
get
power
to
them
so
like
on
this
block
because
of
construction,
we
couldn't
get
it.
A
None
of
these
trees
could
be
lit
this
last
winter
season,
because
the
the
where
the
power
was
sped
from
from
this
block
was
on
the
other
this
block
over
here.
So
it
the
conduit,
connects
the
power
feed
got
removed
as
part
of
this
construction
similar
because
of
the
doyle
project.
We
had
issues
over
here
where
we
couldn't
just.
There
was
no
way
to
get
power
to
them
a
couple
of
these
locations
like
these
two
trees.
If
you
can
see
my
cursor,
these
are
the
ones
where
I
mentioned
where
we
do
have.
A
We
have
to
pop
open
some
sidewalk
panels
to
complete
some
conduit
repairs,
and
then
there
are
some
other
longer
term
issues
with
getting
the
lights
back
on
having
the
ability
to
have
trees
lights
on
the
trees
over
here
and
over
here,
and
then
this
is
a
sort
of
an
ongoing
issue.
It's
a
unique
circumstance.
These
trees
over
here
we
haven't
been
able
to
light
for
a
number
of
years,
because
the
power
supply
is
fed
from
the
private
development.
A
They
are
not
part
of
the
the
currently
part
of
the
ssd
costume
system,
so
we're
not
able
to
put
lights
on
those
trees.
Some
of
these
other
ones
again
are
just
due
to
construction
and
and
some
issues
that
couldn't
be
resolved
in
the
winter,
but
because
it
was,
we
were
seeing
the
failure
rate
that
we
were
coupled
with
that
there
just
wasn't
didn't,
seem
to
be
a
good
nucleus
of
being
able
to
light
the
trees.
A
As
you
know,
that
sort
of
core
of
the
district,
as
we
have
done
in
the
past,
it
seemed
to
be
financially
made
more
seem
to
financially
make
more
sense
just
to
pull
them
down.
Ask
the
question
about
going
leds
or
not,
and
then
we'll
just
go
with
leds.
So
on
the
question
on
the
leds
I
could
have
asked
this
before
was:
is
the
board
interested
in
leaving
them
up
and
seeing
how
long
we
can
get
out
of
them?
Or
do
you
want
to
take
them
down
in
in
march
of
next
year?
A
Store
them
and
then
put
them
back
up
to
try
to
get
the
full
three
seasons?
And
I
want
to
be
clear.
We
we
do
not
expect
that
we
will
get
three
full
years
out
of
out
of
the
stringers,
but
we
may
get
the
equivalent
of
which
would
be
a
a
year
and
a
half
if
it
follows
it
at
least
a
year
and
a
half.
A
A
B
D
D
A
No,
they
take
them
down
more
carefully.
Then
like
the
incandescent,
they
typically
kind
of
cut
out
because
they're,
just
being
you
know,
yeah
recycled
anyways,
but
the
leds
upon
removal.
They
they
take
them
out
more
carefully,
and
then
we
put
them
in
totes
and
store
them
in
a
conditioned
environment.
Okay,
so-
and
I
want
to
be
clear-
we
we
don't
know
that
they're
going
to
stop
working
in
18
months.
A
All
I'm
saying
is:
we've
had
three
at
least
well,
I
chances
are
they
probably
last
at
least
two
years,
except
for
like
damage
and
wind
damage
and
things
like
that,
but
we
always
have
some
of
those
replacements,
even
with
the
incandescents,
so
it
you
know
we
could
try
leaving
them
up.
I
just
I
wanted
to
ask
the
question
that
the
roof
had
a
preference
of
cleaning
them
up.
D
A
Well,
why
don't
we
do
this?
We
we'll
put
them
up
and
then,
as
we've
been
talking
about
and
we'll
leave
them
up
until
we
have
another
conversation
about
this,
which
most
likely,
unless
we
decide
to
have
another
meeting
in
between.
A
You
know
we'll
have
another
meeting
about
this
time
next
year
and
we,
the
group,
can
give
us
some
feedback.
We
won't
necessarily
need
to
pull
them
back
right
away
in
the
spring,
because
you
know
presumably
they'll
continue
to
stay
lit,
which
we
have
a
reason
to
believe
they
will
so
part
of
the
rationale
and
why
we
remove
them
this
year,
won't
necessarily
apply.
C
So,
essentially
this
time
next
year
we
can
decide
to
take
them
down
or
leave
them
up.
C
Okay-
and
I
have
a
question
now
that
we've
looked
at
the
map-
you
mentioned
that
the
work
needs
to
be
done
like
under
the
sidewalks
for
some
of
the
electrical.
So
is
it
for
certain
that
this
is
going
to
get
done
in
time
for
the
new
lights
in
august.
A
That
is
the
plan.
That
is
very
much
the
plan.
In
fact,
our
intent
is
to
start
this
work
really
now
that
the
weather
is
kind
of
broken,
we,
I
will
say
we
still
have
some
frozen
ground,
so
we
got
to
get
past
that,
but
our
goal
would
be
to
start
this
work
in
may
and
get
everything
buttoned
up.
So
we're
done
long
in
advance
of
putting
everything
back
up.
That's
the
that's!
The
intent.
B
I'm
a
little
confused
on
that
just
waiting
till
spring.
Are
you
saying
that
by
then
we'll
know
the
difference
between
what
it
would
cost
to
leave
them
up
and
what
it's
going
to
cost
the
storm?
Should
we
know
right
now
what
it
would
cost
to
have
the
vendors
pull
them
all
down
and
put
them
into
storage,
because
you're
saying
that's
the
cost
difference.
A
I,
if
you
gave
us
a
couple
of
minutes,
we'd,
be
able
to
give
you
the
answer.
Brian,
I'm
just
saying
like
extemporaneously,
I
don't
have
the
answer
to
what
that
cost
is
gonna,
be.
B
B
A
That's
that's
I
mean
partly
right
now.
We
know
we
want
to
put
them
up
and
since
we
won't
need
to
take
them
down
by
the
time
we
meet
next,
we
could
just
get
that
pull
that
information
together
and
be
able
to
give
you
more.
You
know
better
information
than
we
can
sort
of
very
quickly
here,
and
so
that
that's
my
sense
again.
A
No,
the
the
the
the
overtime
number
is
so
let
me
be
clear:
the
break-even
point
that
assumed
taking
them
down
and
storing
them.
So
if
that
cost
come
out
comes
out,
that
break-even
point
comes
even
faster.
C
A
A
Anything
else
the
group
would
like
to
discuss
okay.
Well,
I
will
just
note
we
are,
though
we
won't
meet
for
for
a
while.
Please
know
we're
always
available
email
text
call
any
of
the
three
of
us
all
of
the
three
of
us
again.
Well,
we
extend
our
offer
to
to
meet
with
any
business
owners.
If
you
do
get,
questions
about
the
service
district
do
not
hesitate
to
forward
those
questions
to
us.
A
Please
also
know
that
we
are
in
your
district
frequently,
so
we're
taking
a
look
at
stuff,
but
if
you
do
see
something,
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out
to
us
and
say
hey.
I
saw
this
that
can
be
as
simple
as
a
text.
A
quick
voicemail
message,
a
call
whatever
an
email
so
know
that
we
are
fully
accessible
between
meetings.