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From YouTube: January 13, 2022 Housing Advisory Committee
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A
22
meeting
of
this
committee,
we
will
start
with
a
roll
call
katie.
Would
you
mind
taking
that
role,
press.
B
I
will
do
that
karina
buller
here
bruce
brunner.
C
C
C
C
B
B
B
I
guess
we
know
that
others
didn't
join
rose,
tang.
F
E
C
A
E
G
C
C
A
You
very
much
thanks
everyone.
Our
agenda
is
our
committee's
public
comment
opportunity.
The
advisory
committee
on
housing
sets
aside
10
minutes
on
each
of
our
agendas
to
hear
public
comments
from
non-committee
members.
We
ask
that
each
person
making
a
comment
keep
their
remarks
to
one
minute
or
less.
All
comments
should
be
related
to
housing
issues
in
the
city
of
minneapolis
and
when
possible,
related
to
items
on
the
committee's
agenda
for
this
meeting
today
we
do
take
notes
on
all
the
public
comments
and
we
discuss
them
as
they
relate
to
our
other
agenda
items.
A
City
staff
or
committee
leadership
will
follow
up
with
any
person
who
made
a
comment
if
there's
a
need
for
a
reply.
So
if
anyone
is
present
today
to
make
a
public
comment,
please
unmute
yourself
by
pressing
star
six
and
state
your
name
now,
we'll
then
call
on
individuals
to
make
their
one
minute
comment.
I
Okay,
as
I
said,
this
is
andrea
palumbo,
I'm
a
housing
attorney
at
homeline
and
we
have
already
had
some
questions
come
to
us
about
the
city
of
minneapolis's,
mask
mandate,
and
we
advise
rental,
tenants
and
specifically
they're
wondering
if
this
mandate
applies
to
common
areas
of
apartments.
I
Individual
units
and
when
a
landlord
or
maintenance
comes
into
an
individual
unit,
and
I
know
the
mandate
is
brand
new,
but
we
are.
We
are
concerned
because
it
seems
that
there's
been
some
some
uncertainty
about
exactly
whether
whether
these
situations
are
covered
so
just
wanted
to
bring
that
forward
and
see.
If
there's
any
clarification
on
that.
D
I'm
still
actually
trying
to
get
a
final
answer
on
that,
because
I
so
I
reached
out
to
our
city,
attorney's
office
and
they're
at
least
tentatively,
and
I
will
confirm
this
again
there.
They
believe
that
it
this
particular
recent
emergency
declaration,
does
not
extend
to
private
common
areas
in
like
a
private
residential.
D
I
D
C
D
D
We
really
want
to
support
it,
but
it's
not
required
and
then
I'm
still
waiting
to
hear
on
whether
or
not
that
and
and
again
we
could
talk
to
our
attorneys
or
as
well
about
whether
or
not
maintenance
people
are
required
to
wear
masks
if
they're
entering
a
private
property.
D
My
guess
is
that
you
could
refuse
right
to
say:
hey.
You
can't
come
in
my
house
if
you're
don't
have
a
mask.
Yes,
yes,
but
it's
not
something
that
we're
requiring.
D
A
D
D
You
find
it
we
can
post
it,
we
can
post
it
on
the
committee
website
and
also
we'll
make
sure
that
we've
got
information
on
our
own
website.
Once
we
get
a
final
sort
of
answer
right
and.
J
B
B
A
A
Not
hearing
anyone
else
so
I'll
give
one
last
final
chance.
Take
it
off
mute
star
six,
if
you'd
like
to
make
a
public
comment.
A
All
right,
I
think
that
is
everyone,
so
we
are
next
in
our
on.
Our
agenda
is
to
move
to
the
committee
leadership
election,
neither
joey
or
I
are
going
to
be
standing
for
re-election
for
for
leadership
and
in
fact,
on
that
note,
katie
tepinka
has
some
news
to
share
related
to
joey.
B
Thanks
colleen
and
yes,
you'll
notice,
joey
is
not
here
today.
She
is
actually
no
longer
on
the
committee
because
she
left
her
role
at
legal
aid
and
will
be
joining
the
city
as
a
the
housing
and
equitable
development
policy
coordinator
with
cped,
so
she'll
be
working
with
me
in
cped,
and
so
you
will
still
be
interacting
with
her
because
she
will
work
with
this
committee
in
her
new
role
as
a
city
staff
person,
but
she'll
be
on
the
staff
side
and
not
as
a
committee
member.
B
So
we're
very
excited
to
have
her
on
board
as
a
city
staff
person
starting
next
week,
and
so
you
will
all
still
get
to
see
and
interact
with
joey
but
it'll
be
she'll,
be
in
a
different
role
as
a
staff
person
for
the
city,
so
her
seat
on
the
committee
is
vacant
and
we
are
working
sorting
through
right
now
how
to
fill
both
her
seat,
the
mpha
vacancy
and
the
vacancy
from
brenda's
seat.
B
And
so
hopefully
it
may
not
happen
by
february,
but
hopefully,
certainly
by
march,
we'll
have
those
roles
filled,
and
we
do,
I
know,
have
somebody
here
from
legal
aid
alexander
as
a
guest
today,
since
joey
is
not
on
the
committee
anymore
and
I'm
helping
to
observe
on
their
behalf
today.
So
anyway,
that's
the
that's
the
announcement
and
so
you'll.
You
will
certainly
be
working
with
and
seeing
joey
soon,
but
just
in
a
different
capacity.
A
So
on
that
note,
our
first
order
of
business
today
and
for
the
beginning
of
this
new
calendar
year
is
to
elect
new
new
leadership
for
the
company.
So
traditionally
we
have
had
two
co-chairs
and
then
we've
had
a
secretary
role.
There's
some
flexibility
around
that
and
then
we've
all
sort
of
had
their
co-leaders.
So
we
are,
I
think
we
have
some
flexibility
and
openness
to
how
we
want
to
do
that.
A
But
I
would
encourage
anyone
who
is
interested
right
now
in
stepping
forward
into
a
leadership
position
to
say
your
name
and
and
volunteer
yourself
or,
if
you'd
like
to
nominate
someone
else.
You're
welcome
to
do
that
as
well.
F
Hi,
I'm
scott
I'd
be
interested
in
the
co-chair.
One
of
the
co-chair
positions
is
that
all
I
need
to
say
or
do
I
need
to
talk
about
myself
at
all.
A
I
I
would
say
I
think
it's
probably
helpful
to
say
a
little
bit
about
yourself
and
and
the
role
you've
played
on
the
committee
up
until
now
and
you're
interested
in
housing.
Why?
You
would
be
interested
in
this
role.
F
Yeah
so
I
joined
the
committee
when
it
started.
When
was
that,
like
about
three
almost
three
years
ago
now
and.
C
Yeah
I
helped,
as
the
secretary.
F
For
the
first
term
and
worked
with
colleen
joey
and
katie
and
the
others
to
help
set
the
agenda
items
and
and
yeah
kind
of
execute
the
meetings
and
yeah,
it's
yeah,
I've
enjoyed
it
and
I
would
like
to
step
back
into
a
leadership
position
and
yeah.
So
I
have
a
master's
degree
in
urban
planning
from
the
university
of
minnesota.
I
work
as
a
transportation
planner
and
have
been
paying
attention
to
and
writing
about
housing
policy
for
a
while
in
minneapolis.
G
Good
afternoon
this
is
queen
kimmons.
My
I
would
like
to
nominate
myself.
I
have
been
with
a
boards
and
commissions
for
about
five
six
years.
I
do
understand
that
this
is
about
policy
and
how
we
can
best
put
policies
together
for
people
to
have
some
some
of
these
housing
issues
brought
to
us
and
I'd
be
more
than
willing
to
take
on
a
different
role.
Currently,
I
am
doing
some
secretarial
work
for
this
committee,
but
I
will
be,
I
would
be
happy
to
take
on
any
other
responsibilities.
K
This
is
karina.
I
would
like
to
nominate
queen.
A
Anyone
else
anyone
else,
and
so
we've
got
two
two
people
and
you
know
really
room
for
three
two.
So
if
there's
anyone
else
who's
interested,
I
encourage
you
to
step
forward.
D
A
Yep
so
the
way
that
joey
and
I
have
worked-
you
know
the
last
couple
years
and
then
also
with
scott
and
also
with
queen
over
the
years
as
those
they've
both
held.
Those
positions
is
that
we've
had
meetings
in
between.
You
know
each
of
our
monthly
committee
meetings,
so
we
meet
up
usually
the
week
or
two
weeks,
depending
on
the
calendar,
either
the
next
the
following
week
or
two
weeks
after
that,
we'll
meet
up
again
to
talk
through
kind
of
debrief.
A
The
previous
meeting
figure
out
what
we
pulled
from
that
meeting.
What
we
need
to
talk
about
the
next
meeting
and
then
create
the
agenda
so
that
time
is,
you
know
about
45
minutes
to
an
hour
meeting
time
and
then
in
between
that
there's
often,
you
know
a
little
bit
of
outreach
to
certain
people.
For
example,
you
know
recruiting
some
people
to
work
on
the
budget
and
do
the
analysis
on
the
budget
or
to
talk
about
the
sro
ordinance
right.
C
A
Sometimes,
as
you
know,
you
all
know
when
we
put
together
a
some
sort
of
statement
or
we
take
a
vote
on
something
and
we
have
to
just
put
that
into
final
writing.
Send
it
along
to
the
city
leadership.
A
It
doesn't
take
a
lot
of
time.
So
it's
it's
not
a
huge
time
commitment,
but
it
you
know,
certainly
attendance
and
just
committing
to
doing
being
at
the
meetings
is
an
important
part
of
the
role.
D
A
K
What
I
was
going
to
say
this
karina
again,
I
would
like
to
if
rose
is
available,
I
think
rose,
would
be
a
good
fit,
and
I
would
like
to
nominate
her
as
well.
L
This
is
rose,
thank
you
so
much
that
is
so
kind.
I
I'm
not
really
in
a
place
right
now,
or
I
think
I
could
take
that
on
just
having
moved
to
a
new
job,
and
I
have
some
kind
of
like
strict
requirements
with
in
my
new
role
in
terms
of
conflict
of
interest,
which
I
personally
do
not
think
this
is
a
conflict
of
interest,
but
where
I
feel
a
little
bit
tied
to
that
tied
by
it.
L
I
guess-
and
so
I
super
appreciate
that
and
would
politely
decline.
A
So,
and
so
queen
and
scott
are,
are
you
both
interested
in
a
co-chair
role
or
is
it?
Is
that
what
you're
looking
for,
or
are
you
having
yourselves
your
co-chair
or
for
secretary
or
any
of
people?
So
we
know
what
we
might
be
voting
in.
G
B
Right
so
colleen,
I
think
you
may
I'm
not
sure
that
enough.
I
know
there's
been
kind
of
some
motions,
but
we
may
need
a
motion
and
a
second
to
nominate
the
leadership
candidates
here.
I
guess
I
think,
and
then.
K
Say
the
same
thing:
can
we
clarify
what
the
roles
will
actually
be
for
both
because
I
know
queen
said
sounds
like
whatever
she's
she's
willing
to
do
but
yeah?
I
would
like
to
know
what
so
I
know
how
to
nominate.
D
A
Queen
does
that
work
for
you
it
co-chair
as
in
we
still.
I
know
we
still
need
the
formal
nomination,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
good
with
that.
A
A
I
am
okay
sounded
like
it.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
signing
you
up
for
anything
that
you're
not
agreeing
to
so
okay,
so
I
think
we
need
let's
just
go
back
and
we
need
formal
nominations
for
our
two
volunteers
and
and
carina.
I
think
you
kind
of
made
a
formal
nomination.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
let's
go
ahead
and
just
make
it
for
the
co-chair
role.
Specifically.
K
Karina
committee
member
karina
nominates
queen
for
co-chair.
N
I
will
second
both
queen
and
scott
for
co-chair.
This
is
cleaner,
connor
tober,
and
I
really
appreciate
both
of
them.
Volunteering.
A
B
E
Is
bruce
I'd
like
to
amend
the
motion
to
include
both
scott
and
queen,
as
co-chairs
of
the
committee.
A
Katie,
would
you
mind
taking
a
vote
for
us.
Please.
B
Yes,
so
we're
taking
the
role
on
both
scott
and
queen,
as
co-chairs
of
the
committee
carina
bowler,.
B
C
A
A
I'm
really
excited
for
conversations
that
we'll
get
to
have
with
our
various
department
heads
so
we'll
have
the
director
of
housing
and
regulatory
services
and
the
interim
commissioner
of
health
all
really
timely
topics
right
now,
as
we
start
2022
in
a
place
that
I
think
all
of
us
hopefully
wouldn't
be,
but
we
are
so
we'll
get
a
chance
to
hear
more
about
all
of
their
roles
in
the
city
and
how
that
relates
to
our
housing
committee.
So
katie,
would
you
mind
doing
their
introductions
and
getting
us
off
therapies.
B
Yes,
so
thank
you.
Our
housing
director,
relatively
new
housing
director
elfric
port,
is
here
our
well.
Actually.
All
of
our
directors
are
relatively
new
to
their
roles,
survey,
garnett
huhule
from
regulatory
services
and
then
our
interim
health
commissioner,
heidi
ritchie,
are
all
here
to
talk
about
the
housing
work
in
each
of
the
departments
that
they're
representing
health,
cpat
and
regulatory
services.
B
So
this
is
meant
to
be
an
introduction
and
opportunity
for
you
to
get
to
know
all
of
the
directors
and
understand
the
roles
that
each
department
plays
in
in
housing
policy
and
programs
in
the
city.
B
And
for
you
to
be
able
to
ask
questions,
I
think
we
have
elfrick
listed
on
the
agenda
first,
I
know
elfric,
you
have
a
few
slides,
so
I
think
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
to
start
and
then
we
can
just
go
right
into
soray
and
then
heidi
and
then
I
think
maybe
we'll
just
do
questions
all
at
the
very
end
as
sort
of
a
panel
type
discussion.
B
O
Great,
thank
you
very
much
katie
for
the
introduction.
My
name
is
alfred
port
I've
been
with
the
city
for
a
little
over
18
years,
most
recently
prior
to
my
appointment
to
this
position
as
the
director
of
housing
at
cpit.
I
was
the
manager
for
our
residential
and
real
estate
development
team.
O
A
O
So,
within
our
within
our
housing
division,
there
are
first
of
all
housing.
The
housing
policy
and
development
division
is
one
of
four
divisions
within
our
our
community
planning
academic
development
department
within
our
division.
There
are
two
work
units,
the
residential
finance
team
and
the
residential
and
real
estate
development
team,
and
there
is
a
lot
of
collaboration
that
goes
on
within
our
within
our
work,
particularly
with
within
our
cpad
department,
katie's
team
and
my
team
work
closely
together
and
then
there
are
internal
and
external
stakeholders.
O
The
two
others
that
are
on
the
panel
today
are
also
key
partners
in
the
work
that
we
do
from
the
housing
delivery
system
perspective.
C
B
O
Okay,
so
there
are
seven
seven
strategies
within
our
housing
work,
increasing
housing,
supply
diversity
and
affordability,
producing
more
affordable
rental
housing
and
preserve
subsidized,
affordable
rental
housing
preserve
unsubsidized,
naturally
occurring
housing,
improve
and
sustain
access
to
home
ownership,
especially
in
the
bypa
community,
support
renters
and
prevent
in
homelessness
and
then
maximize
potential
of
property,
publicly
owned
land
to
meet
city
housing.
O
Goals,
the
within
the
residential
finance
team.
We
have
the
that
team
focuses
on
affordable
rental
housing
and
we
define
affordable
rental
housing
as
at
least
as
it
relates
to
the
the
work
that
we
do
here
in
cped,
in
three
categories:
households
at
or
below
30,
ami
50,
ami
60,
ami
and
just
for
reference.
The
income
levels
are
at
31
about
31,
000,
50,
000
and
60
thousand
in
both
in
in
those
three
categories.
O
On
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund
side,
where
we
provide
financing
to
support
the
development
and
rehab
of
of
10
to
20,
I
mean
10
or
more
units
of
of
multi-family
rental
housing.
O
O
From
a
housing
production
perspective,
the
med
council
identifies
a
goal
of
producing
442
units
annually.
If
you
see
this
chart
the
last
three
years,
2018
through
2020,
we
exceeded
that
and
in
the
2021
numbers
that
will
be
coming
out
shortly.
We
anticipate
that
those
numbers
will
be
significantly
higher
than
than
what
the
goals
are
set
by
med
council.
O
Then
we
also
in
the
residential
finance
space.
We
also
do
support
for
preservations
projects.
O
We
we
partner
with
with
existing
owners
and
landlords
to
commit
to
allowing
10
60
percent
of
the
I
mean
their
units
serving
households
at
60
percent
to
be
provided
at
a
10-year
affordability
period
in
exchange
for
that
we
provide,
we
afford
them
the
opportunity
for
lower
property
taxes
on
the
residential
and
real
estate
development
side.
O
We
provide
affordable
and
sustainable
ownership
housing,
and
we
do
that
in
three
categories:
providing
access
to
home
ownership,
creating
affordable
home
ownership
units
and
then
sustaining
and
preserving
home
ownership.
Those
individuals
that
are
already
in
that
that
are
already
homeowners
minneapolis
has
one
of
the
worst
home
ownership
disparity
gaps
in
the
country,
and
this
chart
shows
that,
in
order
for
us
to
close
that
gap,
we
need
to
provide
thirteen
thousand
units
of
ownership
opportunities
to
buy
renters.
O
Looking
at
this
chart,
the
black
and
indigenous
communities
are
the
ones
with
the
highest
disparity
gaps
in
in
our
cities
or
in
our
city,
and
then
we
also
do
in
our
name.
We
talk
about
policy,
we
also
do
policies
and
what
you,
what
I
show
you
are
four
recently
a
recently
approved
policies:
inclusionary
zoning
preference
policy,
sustaining
policy
sustainability
policy
for
one
to
three
unit
rental.
I
mean
residential
ownership
buildings
and
then
the
preference
policy
we
asked
when
I
was
asked
to
come
here
today.
O
You
you
committed,
we
committed
10
minutes,
so
I'm
going
to
end
here
and
just
say
that
there
are,
if
there,
if
there's
a
need
for
us
to
come
back
to
give
you
a
little
bit
more
detailed
approach
on
how
we
approach
our
work
and
the
different
programs
that
we
use
to
to
address
the
housing
needs
in
our
city,
I'll,
be
free,
I'll,
be
more
than
willing
to
come
back
and
and
support
that
effort.
O
And
then.
Lastly,
on
my
on
my
on
the
document,
I
I
share
with
you
that
there
in
our
work,
we
have
a
lot
of
community
engagement
efforts
that
allows
us
to
to
year
what
the
community
wants
in
our
program
design
as
well
as
well
as
our
policy
making
decisions
and
then,
lastly,
I
have
contact
information
for
the
managers
in
our
in
our
work
unit,
as
well
as
as
mine,
so
feel.
Free
and
I'll
stand
for
questions
after
the
other
two
presenters
complete
their
presentation.
N
I
guess
I'm
next
right,
so
my
name
is
sergey
garnett
hojuli.
I
am
new
to
the
position
of
director
of
regulatory
services.
As
you
know,
regulatory
services
has
minneapolis
animal
care
control,
traffic
control.
We
also
have
inspection
services
and
then
operations
falls
under
my
purview
today.
Obviously,
you
want
to
know
about
housing
and
kelly
rose.
N
Jones
is
our
director,
so
inspection
services
that
really
falls
under
their
umbrella
and
their
responsibility,
and
the
thing
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
is
we
we
inspect
to
make
sure
our
housing
stock
and
our
buildings
are
meeting
the
standards
of
the
city.
Are
they
safe?
Are
they
healthy
places
to
live
for
residents
that
are
renters,
regardless
of
how
you
occupy
a
space?
And
so
what
we
really
do
is
we
follow
ordinances?
N
So
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
done
to
adapt
to
the
needs
of,
as
you
saw
alfred
slide,
we
have
noticed
that
the
majority
of
our
our
housing
population
is
now
renters
versus
home
ownership.
What
does
that
really
mean
so
kelly's
group
we
and
operations
we
have
over
25
000
rental
license
that
we
review
every
year.
The
group
also
does
tiering.
N
We
want
to
understand
what
is
our
housing
stock
look
like?
Who
are
the
owners?
We
really
try
and
be
proactive
on
who
are
poor,
folks
that
are
taking
care
of
a
property
and
need
to
help.
We
educate
our
property
owners
and
we
also
educate
our
renters
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we've
done
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
Around
renters
first
policies
is
again
making
sure
that
everybody
understands
what's
what
their
rights
are
as
a
property
owner
as
well
as
a
renter.
Do
you
have
access?
Are
you
treated?
Are
you
being?
Are
you
treated?
N
Well?
Do
you
understand
what
your
rights
are?
We've
also
created
in
the
last
two
years.
We
have
an
alternative
enforcement
team
where,
when
people
come
into
crisis,
if
there's
an
emergency
repair
board,
we
rather
than
displacing
or
condemning
a
house,
we
want
to
keep
people
in
place
and
work
with
folks
to
either
repair
their
boiler
or
furnace.
N
So
we
can
keep
residents
renters
or
residents
in
their
home,
but
also
help
out
that
property
owner
the
other
newer
thing
that
we
did
and
I
and
kelly
can
fill
in
all
the
gaps.
If
I
missed
anything,
we've
also
created
our
well.
N
It's
a
couple
years
into
the
program
we
have
renter
and
homeowner
navigators
or
liaisons
again,
when
we
come
in
to
enforce,
we
are
approaching
people
from
a
human-centric
approach
to
understand
the
why
we
are
enforcing
and
to
understand
how
can
we
assist
and
help
people
age
or
live
in
place,
and
we
also
are
and-
and
I
will
say
that
we
work
with
lots
of
other
departments-
we
work
very
closely
with
cped.
We
work
very
closely
with
health.
We
are
doing
some
lead
lead-based
prevention
with
our
inspectors.
They
are
being
trained.
N
So
when
they
go
into
homes,
they
can
look
for
these
and
we
can
be
again.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
be
proactive
in
our
approach.
We
don't
want
to
wait
for
a
child
to
be
sick.
We
want
to
prevent
that
right.
We
also
understand
that
housing
stability
is
extremely
important
and
and
when
we
look
and
create
policies,
we
always
keep
that
in
mind.
N
One
of
the
other
things
is
is
is
we're
also,
unfortunately,
homelessness
is
impacting
us
and
reg
services
is
in
that
as
well.
So
when
we
talk
about
housing,
it's
not
just
the
brick
and
mortar.
It's
those
things
around
that
we
also
create
policy
as
well
as
alfred
indicated.
We
were
heavily
part
of
the
short-term
rental
conversation
on
regulating
that
that
was
not
something
that
was
regulated
and
that
impact
our
housing
ability.
How
did
how
does
that
impact
our
housing
stock
and
the
affordability
on
that?
N
So
those
are
the
things
that
regulatory
services
works
on
and
I
just
realized
I
forgot
to
introduce
myself
in
the
background.
I
just
got
right
into
the
work,
so
my
name
is
soray
garnett
and
I've
been
with
the
city
for
six
years.
I've
been
in
regulatory
services
for
the
last
two
years
and
two
years
before
that
I
was
within
in
the
assessor's
office.
So
I
understand
housing
in
different
ways:
kind
of
a
360
and
previously
to
coming
into
the
city.
N
I
was
a
real
estate
appraiser,
so
I
understand
housing
and
and
the
economics
of
that
and
and
and
how
those
things
play
in
together
and
how
our
market
appreciates
and
how
important
good
housing
stock,
not
good
healthy
housing
and
housing
that
is
safe
for
everybody
is
an
asset
to
the
community
as
well
as
to
the
city.
So
previously,
like
I
said,
I've
been
in
the
assessment
or
valuation
space
for
a
long
time
nationwide.
N
I
was
responsible
for
40
percent
of
the
united
states
in
terms
of
risk
and
analysis
on
that,
and
then
the
funny
thing
is
I
come
full
circle.
My
degree
is
actually
in
housing
with
them
focus
on
community
development
policy.
So
I'm
in
my
dream
job.
N
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
do
and
I
and
I
also
operate
from
an
anti-racist
perspective
we
are
looking
at.
You
know
people
holistically
understanding
how
housing
demands
and
issues
change
and
evolve
over
time.
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
deal
with
and
not
deal
with,
I'm
related
to
and
I'm
passionate
about
and
kelly.
I'm
sure
I
missed
a
lot,
but
that's
just
a
basic
overview.
You
all
know
kelly
really
well,
so
that's
my
spiel,
heidi.
J
Thanks
siree
hi
alfred,
it's
been
a
while,
since
I've
seen
you
and
other
folks
on
the
call,
it's
nice
to
see
you
all.
So
my
name
is
heidi
ritchie
and
I
am
the
interim
health
commissioner
in
minneapolis,
I'm
just
finishing
my
second
week.
J
J
I
started
in
a
council
member
gary
schiff's
office,
who
represented
the
ninth
ward,
and
he
was
also
the
chair
of
the
zoning
planning
committee
and
on
the
city
planning
commission,
so
there's
some
policy
backgrounds
that
I
worked
on
with
that
also
worked
in
councilmember
fry's
office
when
he
represented
the
third
ward,
worked
on
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
and
then
also
then,
just
recently
spent
the
last
four
years
as
a
policy
and
budget
director
for
mayor
frye.
J
J
So,
like
suray
said,
I've
come
a
little
full
circle
as
well
as
and
I'm
kind
of
in
my
dream
job
right
now
so
into
the
work
in
the
health
department.
J
We
have
a
couple
different
buckets:
we've
got
the
sort
of
administration
piece
of
it,
which
is
headed
up
by
noya
woodridge
deputy
commissioner,
that's
kind
of
morphed
a
little
bit
as
we've
seen
some
issues
crop
up
that
the
health
department
really
has
had
to
put
more
rhesus
into
resources
into
serene
mentioned,
one
of
those
which
is
the
unsheltered
homeless
response,
that's
something
that
we've
recently
just
had
to
put
more
resources
into,
and
I
think,
as
a
city
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
centralize
that
and
how
we
sort
of
have
that
work.
J
J
Maternal
child
health
and
development
is
also
in
that
we've
got.
Let's
see
the
opioid
response,
I
think
that's
another
piece
where
it's
connected
with
stable
housing,
safe
housing,
sustainable
housing-
I
think
that's.
The
piece
too,
is
that
you
know
alfred
was
talking
about
providing
the
housing
and
providing
the
homeownership
opportunities
and
sere
talked
about
providing
safe
and
healthy
housing,
and
I
think
for
the
health
department
it's
also
providing
safe.
You
know,
we've
got
the
housing,
but
the
health
department,
our
job.
J
J
That's
our
food
lodging
and
pools,
and,
and
then
we
work,
do
some
community
outreach
with
our
businesses
around
that
our
environmental
programs
is
patrick
hanlon
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
one
of
the
biggest
connections
with
housing.
That's
our
lead
and
healthy
homes
and
our
environmental
services,
so
working
on
making
sure
that
we
can
eradicate
childhood
lead
poisoning,
and
so
we
don't
have
to
wait
until,
like
saray
said
a
child
is
poisoned
before
we
are
going
in
there
and
mitigating
the
issues.
Asthma
is
another.
One.
J
Radon
is
another
one
so
making
sure
that
the
the
housing
stock
that
we
have
is
healthy.
Then
we've
got
our
policy
and
community
programs,
that's
healthy,
living,
so
things
like
chronic
disease
management.
J
This
is
where
we've
got
some
of
our
visiting
nurses
again.
That
helps
keep
people
in
their
homes
if
the
nurses
can
come
out
and
and
visit
with
them
and
help
them
with
their
medications
and
whatever
they
need.
Homegrown
minneapolis
is
underneath
that
that's
you
know.
J
Obviously,
we've
got
lots
that
we're
trying
to
you
know
at
least
lease
for
for
community
gardens
and
we
intersect
with
cped
a
lot
on
that,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
leasing
the
right
types
of
spaces
to
the
and
there
we're
using
that
space
for
the
right
and
highest
use.
J
And
then
our
school-based
clinics
is
also
there
and
then
our
last
bucket
is
office
of
violence
prevention,
and
I
that
there's
quite
a
bit
that
goes
into
that
with
housing
too,
and
I
think
that's
just
make
taking
people
who
are
at
high
risk
for
for
losing
housing
or
not
having
housing
in
the
first
place
and
making
sure
that
we
can
help
and
provide
those
resources.
J
So
I
hope
that
I
hope
that
gives
you
a
little
bit
of
a
broad
look.
I
mean
there
are
specific
programs
that
we
work
on
like
the
4d
program,
which
you
know
it
provides
a
tax
incentive
for
folks
who
keep
some
of
their
units
affordable.
J
We
come
in,
and
we
say,
and
on
top
of
that
we
want
to
make
your
building
or
your
home
energy
efficient
and
we're
going
to
help
you
do
that
as
well.
Energy
efficient
and
lead
abated,
and
things
like
that.
So
working
sort
of
with
the
programs
that
we've
got
with
the
programs
that
fed
has
to
kind
of
layer
on
those
resources.
J
We
also
do
the
energy
benchmarking.
It's
only
been
a
couple
years
since
we've
been
doing
the
residential
energy
benchmarking,
but
I
saw
a
slide
yesterday
that
we're
at
81
reporting
for
our
residential
buildings
and
that's
really
good
our
multifamily,
which
we
have
been
doing
for
more.
I
think
we've
been
doing
that
for
six
years.
That's
at
about
88,
so
we're
really
pleased
with
how
how
that
program
is
working
out.
So
with
that,
I
think
my
10
minutes
are
up.
A
E
Hi
siree,
my
name
is
bruce
brunner,
I
own
and
I'm
a
house
and
I'm
a
housing
provider
and
I'm
also
a
general
contractor.
I
build
and
renovate
many
properties,
one
of
the
things
that
I
found
in
the
program.
I
was
brought
in
by
someone
that
owned
a
four
plex,
because
I'm
a
general
contractor
and
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
it.
E
He
had
an
inspection,
he
was
declared
a
tier
three
and
when
I
was
brought
in,
I
went
through
and
lots
of
the
things
that
the
inspector
was
having
us
do
were
really
ticky
tacky
and
when
we
talked
about
some
that
really
added
a
lot
of
expense,
his
attitude
was
well.
I
really
don't
care
right
and
I
try
to
explain
the
financial
piece
also
and
I'm
about
healthy,
safe
living.
E
But
you
know
I
just
want
to
say
it's:
it's
not
always
easy
to
to
do
the
things
that
that
some
of
the
inspectors
ask
us
to
do
right
and
one
of
the
things
I
come
back
to
is,
I
know,
knew
quite
a
few
of
the
city
councilmen
and
had
a
great
relationship
with
cam
gordon
one
of
my
questions
to
him
was
well.
You
know
if
I
come
in
and
I
fix
a
building
and
and
everything
passes
on
a
tier
three,
why
don't
you
let
us?
Why?
E
Don't
you
let
that
person
or
myself
come
back
to
a
tier
one?
He
said
well,
it
goes
back
10
or
20
years
when
the
person
that
was
in
charge
of
regulatory
kind
of
sought
as
his
job
to
raise
enough
funds
to
offset
the
cost
of
his
department
and
cam
at
that
said
time
said:
listen
if
you,
if
someone
fixes
everything,
that's
all
we're
trying
to
do,
but
there's
a
time
frame
of
two
years
that
you
inflate
from
like
140
dollars
a
year
to
well
over
900
a
year
to
collect
fees.
E
So
I
just
want
to
pose
that
out
that,
rather
than
being
punitive
once
you
know
a
landlord
or
someone
that
owns
it
in
general
contractors
fix
the
problem
completely.
You
know
we
would
like
to
see
that
piece
taken
off,
so
we're
not
continually
financially
penalized.
D
Did
you
want
a
response
bruce?
I
think
saray
actually
had
to
take
another
phone
call
and
I'd
be
happy
to
at
least
you
know,
take
a
crack
at
a
response.
I
don't
know
colleen.
If
that's
what
you
want-
or
this
is
just
a-
we
hear
you
and
you
know,
bruce
be
happy
to
talk
to
you
more
about
it.
What
I
can
tell
you,
maybe
I'll,
just
take
a
second
is
we
have
actually
recently
got
a
new
program
in
place
where
it's
an
accelerated.
D
It
basically
takes
into
account
what
you're
talking
about.
We
want
people
to
move
from
a
tier
three
to
a
tier
two
to
a
tier
one.
So
we
have
a
new
program
where
we're
offering
an
opportunity
for
folks
in
tier
two
and
tier
three
to
do
what
we're
calling
an
accelerated
inspection.
D
You
get
the
inspection
done
and
then
we
move
your
wood
down
the
tier
at
a
much
that
same
year,
so
that
so
that
you're
not
waiting
for
two
years
and
we
get
that
people
inherited
inherit
tears
and
put
a
lot
of
resources
into
them.
In
fact,
that's
something
that
a
lot
of
our
inspectors
have
shared
with
us
they're
like
hey.
We
think
this.
This
should
not
be
a
tier
three,
because
they've
invested
so
much
money,
and
so
we
do
recognize
that
and
our
fees
are
not
at
all
meant
to.
D
I
think
that
whatever
cam
was
alluding
to
is
a
director
that
hasn't
been
here
for
10
12
years.
Yes,
so,
and
that
is
really
no
longer
the
philosophy
of
the
department
and
it
hasn't
been
for
a
while,
so
where,
like
suray
said,
we're
about
partnering
about
making
sure
that
we
support
owners
and
in
doing
you
know
and
being
compliant
and
recognizing
that
there's
a
reasonable
reasonableness
standard
that
we
always
want
to
support
as
well,
because
housing,
stability
and
housing
quality
go.
You
know,
is
our
goal.
E
D
It's
actually
just
going
into
effect
now
we're
going
to
be
starting
the
the
project
this
year,
it's
been
in
the
planning
stages
for
a
while.
We
weren't
able
to
sort
of
pull
it
together
until
just
the
last
three
or
four
weeks,
but
now
we're
ready
to
launch
it
and
we'll
be
we'll
be
actually
sending
out
in
email
or
flyers
or
informational
to
those
properties
that
are
eligible
to
for
this
new
program.
D
C
H
I
do
so
my
question
relates
it's
for
heidi
hi,
heidi
sros,
the
city
broadened
its
policy
essentially
reopened
the
development
of
sros
that
has
traditionally
been
regulated,
overseen
by
the
health
department.
H
D
Okay,
thanks
cecil,
so
yeah,
so
we
did
recently
passed
the
single
room,
occupancy
ordinance
and
how
it's
going
to
work
is
that
there'll
be
a
special
sro
license
that
will
be
provided
through
the
inspection
services
we'll
be
working
closely
with
our?
If
there's,
if
there's
something
like
if
the
sro
is
providing
food
or
doing
something
else
which
is
more
similar
to
congregate,
living
than
the
board
and
lodging
folks
that
are
in
heidi
shop
will
manage
it,
but
if
it's
just
a
new
single
room
occupancy
either
a
conversion
or
a
new
property.
D
That's
literally
just
that
you're
there
you're
renting
a
room
in
a
in
a
affordable
space
in
in
cohabitating
with
people
who
are
also
in
that
same
situation,
then
the
license
is
going
through
will
be
inspected
and
regulated
through
us
through
inspection
services.
H
So
the
follow-up
to
that
is
is
curious.
So
so,
if
there's
no
communal
food
preparation,
then
it's
not
inspected
by
the
health
department.
D
D
D
C
D
H
Yeah,
I
I
think
that
needs
to
be
talked
about
because
most
people
assume
with
sros
that
that
have
been
at
least
in
the
housing
space,
assume
health
department,
regulation
of
shared
bathrooms
and
kitchens,
and
it's
a
much
tougher,
and
rightly
so,
because
of
food
safety
and
and
sanitation
issues
yeah
that
that's
a
bigger
lift
to
get
over
and-
and
I
think
some
people
just
assume
that
and
don't
even
think
about
that
space
for
development.
D
Yes,
but
yes,
and
so
we
do
have
some
some
frequently
asked
questions
that
are
being
developed
and
put
in
place,
we're
still
working
on
some
finalizing
the
application
process,
and
we
do
require
that
the
sros
have
a
management
plan
that
talks
about
that.
What's
your
strategy
for
ensuring
you
know
that
people
manage
you
know:
how
are
you
planning
on
managing
that
aspect
of
the
living
situation?
So
without
us
like
being
in
there?
You
know
checking
those
types
of
activities
so.
A
H
I'm
just
from
alfred
or
or
even
katie,
can
you
explain
the
role
of
the
inter
the
interaction
between
your
two
shops,
so
I
just
want
to
figure
out
how
that
works,
how
you
coordinate
with,
if
there's
a
housing
director
and
then
there's
a
policy
shop
or
or
this
overlap.
B
Sure
sure
I
can
take
it
so
thanks
cecil
yeah,
so
we
did,
I
think,
and
I
had
to
step
away
for
a
minute
while
alfred
was
talking.
So
I'm
sorry,
if
I'm
repeating
things
that
he
said
so
last
year
we
there
was
a
little
bit
of
reorganization
within
cped
and
a
team
that
I'm
now
managing
was
created.
It's
called
the
policy
research
and
outreach
team.
B
B
Yes,
there
we
go
and
then
operations,
and
so
so
my
previous
role
was
housing
policy
coordinator.
But
there
was
recognition
of
a
few
things,
one
that
there's
a
lot
of
policy
work
done
in
cped,
not
just
in
the
housing
division,
but
in
economic
development
in
other
areas
and
need
for
support
on
that
policy.
Work
and
then
also
that
we
wanted
to
bring
the
data
analysts,
who
were
kind
of
housed
within
each
individual
division
together
as
well,
because
a
lot
of
the
research
and
data
functions
across
the
divisions
are
really
shared.
B
A
lot
of
the
information
that
we
need
to
analyze
in
economic
development
and
housing
is
very
similar,
and
so
so
my
team
is,
is
pr
is
intended
to
provide
support
for
the
entire
department,
around
policy
data
analysis
and
in
research
and
outreach,
and
so
so
because
there's
been
so
much
housing
policy
work
and
will
continue
to
be
I'm
working
and
then,
as
as
joey,
comes
on
board
and
working
on
policy
as
well,
we'll
be
working
very
closely
with
elfric
and
the
housing
team
on
housing
policy.
B
The
will
be
often
sort
of
leading
a
lot
of
the
work
with
stakeholders
and
and
the
actual
policy
development
work
itself,
but
we'll
be
doing
it
in
concert
with
elfric
and
and
whoever
he
might
designate
from
his
team,
similar
with
economic
development,
as
there
may
be
changes
around
policies
related
to
economic
development
work.
So
that's
the
vision
and
really
trying
to
bring
in
the
research
team
all
under
one
umbrella
to
help
inform
that
policy.
Work
as
well
is
the
goal
of
having
this
team
in
place.
B
So,
while
you
know
what
my
team
is
in
operations,
we're
working
really
closely
with
all
the
divisions
in
cped,
it's
still
pretty
new
and
we're
still
sorting
through
it
in
some
ways.
But
that's
that's
our
goal.
O
B
Right,
and
so
that's
part
of
the
goal
too,
is
making
sure
as
we're
doing
things
like
yeah
data
making
maps
making
dashboards
those
kinds
of
research
functions
that
it
all
doesn't
just
fall
on.
One
person
to
do
all
the
housing
stuff,
we're
kind
of
spreading
it
around
and
better
able
to
prioritize
that
work.
K
K
We
would
like,
as
renters
we'll
like
to
see
some
right
to
return
agreements
for
relocation
agreements
for
other
renters,
so
it
would
those
agreements
would
be.
You
know
whatever
the
relocation
meeting
is
whatever
the
plan
is
to
make
sure
that
the
renters
are
aware
of
the
relocation
process
and
that
they
are.
You
know
in
the
process
of
you
know
knowing
what's
going
on,
you
know
in
the
early
stages
and
then
that
relocation
right
to
return
agreement
would
definitely
you
know,
stop
some
confusion.
K
That
happens
a
lot
because
there's
no
communication,
you
know
from
the
property
owner
or
the
management
company
or
whoever
is
you
know,
being
a
spokesperson,
so
I
think
those
right
to
return
agreements
to
renters
doing
a
redevelopment
would
be
a
perfect
face
to
say:
hey
we're
listening
to
you
guys,
and
you
know
your
voice
is
heard
so
it
without
that
process
and
ranchers
do
become
displaced
under
these
remodels.
That's
been
happening
in
our
city.
That'll
help
stop
some
of
that
to
make
sure
that
renters
go
back
to
their
homes.
K
The
second
one
will
go
to
the
to
the
health
department
to
heidi,
healthy
housing
is
important
and
I'm
a
renter,
and
I
know
a
lot
that's
going
on
in
the
city
and
a
lot
of
these
houses
and
many
athletes
are
not
healthy.
The
asthma
rates
are
up
and
high,
I'm
not
sure
of
the
lead.
I
know
our
building
went
through
a
radon
testing
and
to
this
day
we
never
heard
the
results.
K
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
word
healthy
housing
is
really
reaching
the
right
ears
and
it's
a
really
important
topic,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
kids
and
adults
and
elders
who
have
cpod
from
non-healthy
substandard
living
housing.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
health
department
and
those
regulatory
you
know
are
staying
on
top
of
those.
K
You
know
serious
concerns
so
that
renters
are
not
living
in
substandard
housing,
so
that
will
fall
into
the
three-tier
with
the
regulatory
services,
and
I
know
kelly
me
and
you
spoke
a
lot
about
the
three-tier
program
and
I
think
that
the
three-tier
program
with
landlords
saying
that
you
know
that
they
bought
into
a
three-tier.
I
know
our
property
just
started
in
2016
and
the
owners
of
our
building
bought
it
in
2011.
C
K
So
with
the
three-tier
program,
if
you
have
a
multi-family
building
and
their
three-tier
program,
I'm
in
three-tier
property.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
agreement
stands
and
you've
got
tenants,
calling
you
know
and
complaining
about
all
kinds
of
issues
infestations
and
all
of
this,
but
the
landlord
is
telling
you
guys
the
city,
hey.
Everything
is
fine
over
there,
it's
all
butterflies
and
rainbows,
but
we
have
a
building
full
of
complaints
and
we're
calling
every
social
services
in
minneapolis.
K
We
want
to
make
sure
that
that
three-tier
program
also
goes
into
a
retaliatory
intimidation
enforcement
agreement
with
the
tier
program,
because
again
it
will
block
that
confusion,
so
that
would
also
be
when
they
do
a
license.
Inspection,
the
regulatory
services
and
the
health
department
can
come
out
there
and
reevaluate
that
three-tier
program
and
yes,
they'll
gradually
go
to
a
tier
one,
but
you
got
to
keep
it
up.
You
can't
just
fix
this
day
one
year
and
then
expect
for
the
city,
not
to
say
you
back
to
a
tip
two
tier
three.
K
And
that's
how
you
create
healthy
housing
to
also
to
the
regular
service
services
when
you
guys
are
doing
license
inspections
and
you're
in
hud.
Buildings
also
make
sure
you're
looking
out
for
the
pvc
a
which
is
the
performance-based
administration
for
hud
properties,
because,
according
to
hud,
those
are
supposed
to
be
listed
for
the
tenants
and
you
guys
to
see
that
they
are
performing.
And
they
are,
you
know,
living
upon
the
rights
and
the
laws
that
hud
said
that
they
would
do
so.
K
Those
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
discuss
and
it's
important
to
me
because
I
am
a
renter
and
I
know
what's
going
on
with
renters
in
minneapolis.
So
that's
my
time
and
you
can
answer
if
you
like.
O
I'm
going
to
say
that
this
is
this
is
all
freak
I'm
going
to.
I
would
love
to
follow
up
with
you
on
the
relocation
and
return
rights
to
return.
O
I
can
I
give
you
my
number,
and
so
we
can
connect
and
then
what
what
I
can
commit
to
is
after
she
and
I
have
communicated.
I
can
share
that
some
of
the
findings
and
results
with
katie
and
she
can
disseminate
that
information
to
this
group.
K
C
B
O
O
The
the
well
I
I
want
to
I
want
to
better
understand,
because,
just
as
from
a
from
a
relocation
perspective
or
from
cpec's
perspective,
where
we
provide
funding
to
projects
that
require
that
in
those
projects
necessitate
some
relocation
there,
there
there
are
hud
required
steps
that
need
to
be
employed.
So
I
need
to
just
better
understand
and
that's
why
I
wanted
to
take
it
offline.
O
So
I
don't
take
up
too
much
time
in
this
in
this
space,
but
wanted
to
better
understand
if
we're
talking
globally
or
just
the
cped
funded
projects,
and
that's
the
piece
that
I
wanted
to
just
see.
Clarification.
K
C
K
A
And
I
know
we're
we're
running
out
of
time
here.
We've
got
our
next
agenda,
but
we
do
have
quick
questions,
so
I
thought
scott
and
queen,
if
you
want
to
both,
ask
the
questions
of
fire,
shot
style
and
then
we'll
give
people
a
chance
to
answer
those
two
together.
F
Yeah
sure
hi,
this
is
scott,
so
we've
adopted
a
couple
housing
policies
over
the
last
few
years,
like
sro
and
inclusionary
zoning,
and
if
we
want
these
policies
to
have
to,
if
we
want
these,
we
want
the
best
housing
outcomes.
We
need
to
be
kind
of
monitoring
and
evaluating
these
policies,
and
I
just
wanted
to
know
who
needs
to
kind
of
order,
a
report
on
a
given
policy,
whether
that's
something
you
could
do
alfric
or
whether
that
needs
to
come
from
city
council
or
what.
F
Yeah,
who
would
need
to
kind
of
order?
A
report
on
you
know,
say
we
need
to
evaluate
you,
know
our
inclusionary
zoning
policy
to
see
if
it's
the
most
effective.
If
we
need
to
you,
know,
change
any
aspects
of
the
policy,
whether
that
needs
to
come
from
city
council
or
from
you
as
the
policy
housing
policy
director.
O
So
if
you
aren't,
if
you,
if
you
as
a
resident,
feel
the
need
for
information,
feel
free
and
reach
out
and
will
work
on
getting
you
that
information,
if,
if
that,
if
the,
if
the
evaluation
is
not
yet
complete
or
it's
not
on
the
way
we
can,
we
can
put
put
that
system
in
place
and
katie
wanted
to
add
at
a
few
points
as
well.
B
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
add
on
a
couple
of
the
high-profile
policies
you
mentioned
scott.
There
are
evaluation
plans
in
place
so
for
inclusionary
zoning,
for
example,
there's
a
dashboard
that
we
can
share
with
the
committee
and
a
report
that
went
to
council
last
year
that
will
be
updated
annually
and
then
for
for
minneapolis
2040.
B
The
federal
reserve
is
working
with
the
city
to
do
analysis
of
of
how
many
units
are
created
as
a
result
of
that
policy,
so
they
just
released
a
dashboard
as
well
that
they
worked
with
city
with
cpad
to
create
so
I
just
wanted
to,
since
those
are
two
pretty
high
profile.
Recent
things.
There
are
those
plans
in
place
for
those
specific
policies,
and
I
can
make
sure
that
the
committee
gets
the
links
to
those.
C
G
Anybody
can
anybody
from
those
one
of
those
departments
can
answer
this,
I'm
just
interested
in
knowing
who
still
has
the
listings
of
vacant
lots
in
the
city
and
how
many
vacant
lots.
We
have
we're
talking
about.
You
know,
doing
developments
and
and
creating
policy
on
these
houses.
That's
being
put
out
here
and
I
would
be
interested
in
knowing
how
many
vacant
lots
and
does
the
city
still
host
that
on
there
on
their
website
and
how?
How
how
can
we
navigate
that.
O
O
They
all
go
through
a
request
for
proposals,
process
and-
and
we
currently
have
no
for
notice
of
funding
availability
throughout
minneapolis
homes
program.
That's
out
right
now
and
and
that's
how
developers
like
yourselves,
could
take
a
look
and
and
submit
a
proposal.
O
If
you
were
talking
about
all
vacant
lots
within
the
city
structure
I
mean
within
the
city
boundaries,
then
the
we
can
work
with
other
city
departments
to
try
to
get
you
that
list,
whether
it's
working
with
katie
katie's
team
or
this,
the
assessor's
office
or
on
the
life.
O
But
if
you're,
if
you're
looking
for
for
vacant
parcels
for
development
purposes,
we
can
say
we
can
share
with
you
the
vacant
lots,
but
we
wouldn't
have.
If
it's
not
city-owned
parcels,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
help
you
meander
through
that
process
of
trying
to
engage
the
property
owner
and
and
negotiate
a
an
acquisition.
O
A
Sorry
I
was
having
a
trouble
getting
off
mute
for
the
course
great
well.
Thank
you.
Let's
all
thanks!
So
much
to
all
of
you
really
again
really
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
of
the
city
and
and
and
taking
the
time
to
be
here
with
us
today.
We
do
very
much
appreciate
it.
J
Thank
you
so
much.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
I
put
some
information
on
a
hud
grant
that
we
just
got
which
addresses
one
of
queen's
questions
about
the
safety
in
housing.
So
before
I
go,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
people
had
that
notification.
Thank
you
thanks.
Buddy.
A
Great,
so
the
last
item
on
our
agenda
today
is
to
talk
through
2022
planning
and
you'll.
Recall
we've
done
this.
You
know
each
year
in
the
past
talked
through
the
you
know,
try
to
prioritize
the
topics
that
are
the
highest
priorities
for
this
committee
and
then
started
mapping
those
out
for
the
year
as
agenda
items.
So
I'm
just
going
to
open
it
up
right
now
for
some
conversation
about
the
topics
that
you
think.
This
committee
should
ensure
that
we
focus
on
throughout
the
year.
A
E
How
do
we
weigh
in
on
letting
people
or
city
council
and-
or
I
guess
the
mayor
more
now,
because
that's
where
all
decisions
will
stem
from
you
know?
How
do
we
give
additional
information,
so
everyone's
represented.
A
G
Okay,
I
would
like
I
know
that
we
have
brought
this
up
in
the
past
about
tenants
having
some
ownership
in
these
properties.
You
know
those
individuals
that
can
hold
the
ownership.
I
would
like
to
keep
track
of
that
conversation
and
see
how
it
develops
with
new
council
that
is
coming
on
board.
I
forgot
the
name
of
it.
I
know
it
generated
somewhere
in
washington
dc
and
finally
landed
in
minnesota.
G
So
I
think
that
that
would
be
of
importance
to
see
you
know
how
is
that
fairly
mapped
out?
Thank
you.
I
think
you're.
K
Yeah,
I
think
our
rent
control,
the
right
to
council
update
the
tenant
empowerment
act
and
the
good
cause
eviction
bill
will
be
some
great
topics
to
discuss.
G
I
would
like
to
add
one
more
thing:
if
I
can,
this
is
queen,
I
have
been
tracking
information
coming
from
mf
h
a
and
it
is
in
regard
to
using
first-time
home
owners,
money
towards
contract
for
deeds,
and
they
are
saying
that
in
the
same
essence
of
using
you
know
that
policy
first-time
homeowners
owners,
you
could
also
have
used
that
for
housing
for
contract
for
deed,
and
I'm
wondering
how
we
could
get
information
about
that.
G
If
someone
from
this
committee
could
see
if
there's
any
policy
or
is
that
there
any
truth
to
that,
so
I
would
really
like
to
kind
of
get
to
a
deeper
dive
into
that.
A
G
Well,
I
think
it's
important
about
homeownership
since
we're
always
talking
about
you
know,
wealth
gap
and
housing
gap
with
homeowners
and
black
folks
that
are
having
their
lack
of
home
ownership.
So
I
do.
I
would
like
to
just
do
a
deeper
dive
to
see
if
this
is
something
that
mhfa
is
this
real.
I
mean
because
this
would
be
great
in
some
aspects
of
someone's
life
who
would
like
to
do
a
contract
for
d
home
ownership
and
if
they
can
use
first-time
homebuyers
money.
G
A
So
I
know
in
the
past,
we've
certainly
had
you
know,
talked
a
lot
about
interest
in
homelessness
and
homelessness
prevention
and
then
also
broadly
in
homeownership.
But
those
are
two
topics
that
have
been
ongoing
priorities.
Do
we
want
to
keep
those
I
mean?
I'm
hearing
queen
talk
both
in
in
topa
and
in
the
contract
for
d
and
homeownership
coming
up.
I
would
imagine
we'd
still
want
updates
related
to
homelessness
on
our
agenda
for
the
year.
G
Yes,
I
would
like
to
know
what's
going
on
with
these
encampments,
since
it's
been
below
zero.
A
And
then,
and
then
I
think
generally,
we
want
to
be
staying
staying
in
the
loop
and
with
updates
on
any
policies
in
addition
to
rent
control.
But
you
know
top
all
these
other
policies
and
opportunities
to
weigh
in
so
we
can
probably
create
a
you
know
larger
bucket
for
all
of
those,
as
kind
of
ongoing
updates
and
opportunities
for
feedback.
K
My
fault
keep
muted,
so
I
would
like
for
a
right
to
return
counsel
to
be
talked
about
on
rent
control.
K
I
would
like
to
talk,
keep
minnesota
on
top
of
the
tenant
empowerment
act
and
also
the
good
cause
eviction
bill
for
renters
to
get
their
day,
leases
renewed
by
the
landlords
and
what
else
and
the
homeless
you
know,
update
and
the
healthy
housing
for
sure.
M
P
This
is
a
little
bit
more
of
a
theme.
It
probably
encompasses
multiple
topics,
but
it
would
be
great
sometime
in
2022
to
maybe
have
a
pandemic
outcomes.
Discussion
which
you
know
would
probably
go
into
the
rental
assistance
programs
and
how
well
some
of
that,
you
know,
did
and
didn't
go
and
out
comes
from
that
as
well.
As
you
know,
it
touches
on
homelessness
and
and
other
areas,
but
yeah
just
pandemic
theme
and
impact
across
the
topics
that
this
committee
is
interested
in.
A
C
A
H
So
one
of
the
the
policies-
statewide-
that's
been
quite
effective
in
minneapolis,
who
has
been
in
hennepin,
county
and
partnership,
has
been
heavily
involved,
is
ending
veterans,
homelessness
and
it's
been
quite
successful
and
if
anything,
it's
potentially
a
model
for
helping
to
get
our
unsheltered
neighbors
into
housing.
H
And-
and
so
I'm
just
wondering,
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
explore
that
to
look
at
that
model
and
how
why
why
it's
worked
and
how
it's
working
to
understand
the
cost,
because
it
is
more
expensive
in
terms
of
the
initial
investment.
But
there's
some
pretty
big
returns
in
terms
of
helping
people
become
housed
and
often
there's
benefits
in
terms
of
their
health
care
outcomes
and
and.
H
Broad
spectrum
of
positive
things
that
happen
for
those
individuals,
so
I
I
I've
just
really
I've
watched
that
closely.
I've
even
participated
in
it
as
a
housing
provider
and
I
think,
there's
some
lessons
to
be
learned
that
might
inform
taking
something.
That's
been
particular
for
veterans
and
say:
does
this
ask
the
question:
does
this
at
a
greater
scale?
Could
this
be
effective
with
the
broader
and
sheltered
population.
A
Noted
as
well
thanks,
cecil
katie,
your
hand
is
up.
B
You
obviously
received
updates
last
year
on
the
american
rescue
plan,
funds
around
housing
and
homelessness,
but
we
are
still
very
actively
working
on
implementation
for
some
of
those
funds
and
there
will
be
additional
rounds
of
funding
announced
in
the
spring
and
so
and
then
there
are
going
to
be
other
implementation
measures
happening
this
year
around
sro
and
some
of
the
new
policies
that
have
been
adopted
in
recent
years.
So
I
just
think
I
know
we
often
focus
on
kind
of
the
newer
policies
or
or
things
that
haven't
been
adopted
yet.
B
But
I
do
think
there
will
likely
be
some
opportunity
for
this
committee
to
weigh
in
as
staff
are
working
on
implementation
of
things
that
the
council
has
already
approved,
and
certainly
obviously
we
work
with
the
co-chairs
to
help
identify
those
opportunities
for
for
the
committee
to
weigh
in
throughout
the
year.
But
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of
have
a
note
of
that.
I
think
especially
around
arp
funds.
There
will
be
opportunity
for
that.
A
A
Andrea
in
a
way
you
have
your
hand
up
and
then
lisa,
I
see
you
do
as
well.
Hi.
Q
Go
ahead
andrew!
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
offer,
as
in
the
past,
we've
done
I'm
happy
to
either
present
myself
or
facilitate
someone
from
the
budget
office
presenting
about
the
2023
budget,
as
we
start
to
think
about
2023
already,
as
well
as
there
will
be
a
second
round
of
arp
funding
recommendations
that
the
mayor
will
be
putting
out
later
this
spring.
So
I'm
happy
to
give
information
to
the
committee
and
get
feedback
on
those
as
well.
If
that's
of
interest.
A
M
Andrea
hi,
this
is
oh,
this
is
lisa.
I
just
wanted
to
put
on
people's
radar
in
line
with
what
katie
said
that,
with
the
council
adopting
the
lead
elimination
plan,
we
will
be
looking
at
bringing
forward
next
year.
Some
minor
ordinance
modifications
that
this
committee
might
want
to
look
at.
M
Saying
not
to
the
plan
but
to
city
ordinances,
as
that
were
outlined
in
the
plan.
A
As
always,
no
shortage
of
topics
related
to
housing
all
right.
Well,
that
is
giving
us
a
fairly
full
agenda.
But
if
there's
anyone
else
who
wants
to
still
add
anything
else,
we
can,
and
then
scott
and
queen
will
have
the
joy
of
getting
to
start
talking
about
it
and
figuring
out
what
we,
what
we
are
going
to
put
on
each
month
agenda.
B
One
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
mention
quickly:
it's
not
a
housing
agenda
topic,
but
just
obviously
the
city's
government
structure
is
changing.
We
also
have
a
new
council,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
to
flag
both
of
those
things.
B
We
weren't
quite
ready
to
be
able
to
talk
about
them
this
month,
the
the
new
government
structure,
because
there's
still
a
lot
going
on
in
terms
of
protocols
organize
you
know
how
it
all
kind
of
works
in
practice,
but
that
is
something
we
do
intend
to
bring
to
the
committee
in
the
next
month
or
two
just
to
give
a
little
bit
of
an
update
about
what
do
these
changes
really
mean
for
how
policy
is
adopted
in
the
city,
and
then
I
just
also
wanted
to
note.
B
Obviously
we
had
robin
garwood
and
council
member
gordon
very
closely
connected
to
this
committee
over
the
last
few
years,
and
so
we
will
be
trying
to
identify
with
the
new
council
starting
sorry,
something
just
fell
in
my
space
here,
but
anyway,
we'll
be
working
to
identify
somebody
from
the
council
to
be
working
closely
with
the
committee
as
well
in
the
in
the
months
ahead.
So
more
to
come
on
that.
A
Thanks
kitty,
and
thanks
thanks
to
all
of
the
space
staff
for,
saw
your
work.
As
I
said
earlier,
it
really
you
really
make
this
committee
work
smoothly
and
you
do
most
of
the
the
work
of
it.
So,
thanks
for
doing
all
the
coordination
with
getting
our
speakers
to
our
meeting
so
that
we
can
learn
more
about
what's
going
on
and
keep
updated,
really
appreciate,
it.
A
All
right:
well,
we
may
have
achieved
our
full
agenda
by
now.
It
looks
like
we
may
have
wrapped
up,
but
if
there's
anything
else
that
people
want
to
add
just
hold
open
for
another
moment
here
cecil,
when
I
give
another
moment,
it
looks
like
cecil
you're,
always
adding
one
more
thing.
H
As
someone
who
has
to
chair
meetings,
I
always
like
it
when
people
just
like:
let
it
go,
but
then,
when
you
open
the
door,
you
open
yourself
up
so
another
thing-
and
this
is
kind
of
big
picture-
is
just
looking
at
our
a
view
of
our
housing
stock.
H
H
What
inventory
do
we
have
available,
especially
for
at
entry
level,
especially
for
home
ownership,
and
what's
the
trends
being
like
and
that
we
offer
you
know,
we've
got
we're
trending
more
rental
housing,
but
they're.
Also
people
who
want
to
buy
homes,
but
the
average
cost
of
a
single-family
home
in
minneapolis
has
really
accelerated
over
the
last
10
years.
So
just
to
look
at,
where
are
the
gaps
in
inventory?
H
F
Yeah,
I
don't
have
any
other
agenda
items,
but
I
did
want
to
just
take
a
moment
to
express
my
appreciation
of
you
and
joey's
work
over
the
last
few
years,
and
you
know
just
that.
I
think
your
diligence
and
yeah
so
vision
have
really
taken
this
committee
off
the
ground
and
yeah
looking
forward
to
working
with
queen
to
continue
your
legacy.
So
thanks.
N
Doodles,
in
that
this
is
the
other
colleen.
Thank
you
colleen
and
joey
in
her
absence.
A
Like
I
said
it
makes
it
makes
it
easy
when
you've
got
katie
and
ellie
and
others
the
whole
the
whole
time
to
support
us.
So
they
really
again
don't
do
all
the
work.
Tina,
andrea.
A
A
Katie
looks
like
you
probably
haven't
too
so,
we'll
I'll
share
those
with
katie
so
that
we
can
get
the
minutes
out
and
then
I
think
that
we'll
hand
that,
off
to
queen
and
scott
to
start
making
a
plan
for
next
for
this
this
year,
not
next
year,
but
this
year,
2022,
which
we're
already
in
right
with
that.
I
officially
adjourn
our
january
meeting
of
the
housing
advisory
committee.