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B
The
city
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
on
the
city's
website
and
youtube
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
public
access
and
transparency.
This
meeting
is
public
and
subject
to
the
minnesota
open
meeting
law.
At
this
time,
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
please
call
the
role,
so
we
can
verify
quorum
for
the
meeting.
C
B
Great,
thank
you.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum
next,
we
will
proceed
to
our
agenda.
A
copy
of
the
agenda
has
been
posted
for
public
access
to
the
city's
legislative
information
management
system,
which
is
available
at
limbs.minneapolismn.gov.
E
C
C
B
B
All
right
the
motion
carries
and
the
agenda
is
adopted
and
minutes
for
the
january
11th
2022
meeting
are
accepted
all
right.
Let's
move
into
unfinished
business
first
item
of
unfinished
business
is
an
update
on
the
case
summary
process
that
we,
it
looks
like
we
adopted
this
at
our
october
2021
meeting,
and
the
item
was
postponed
from
january
11th
due
to
lack
of
time.
So
I
would
like
to
call
on
civil
rights
staff
to
provide
an
update
on
the
new
case
summary
process.
F
G
Hang
up
the
phone
yes
hi
good
evening,
carolina
amini
here
I
would
be
happy
to
provide
you
an
update.
Opcr
staff
has
randomly
select
well,
we
did
a
random
selection
of
60
cases
within
the
past
year
and
what
we
are
planning
on
doing
is
to
provide,
as
as
we
go
through
the
case,
summaries
to
post
them
all
online
where
they
are
available
to
the
public.
G
There
are
some
already
online
and
there
will
be
more
coming
as
soon
as
we
are
able
to
write
them,
and
I
do
plan
on
speaking
about
one
today
and
I
I
can
go
in
depth
for
reference.
It
will
be
case.
Summary
number
opcr-21-02.
G
B
Great
thanks,
I
don't
know
if
now
is
the
best
time
or
not
to
go
through
it,
maybe
I'll
open
it
up
to
our
commission
members
if
they
have
anything
they'd
like
to
say
or
if
they'd
like
to
discuss
it.
D
Yes,
thank
you.
I
mean,
I
appreciate
you,
you
coming
in
telling
us
that
it
is
online
and
I
I
agree
if
someone
can
provide
us
with
that
link.
I
I
know
it's
not
on
our
agenda.
I
mean
the
item
is
on
our
agenda,
but
there
is
no
link
connected
to
our
agenda
on
limbs.
It
would
be
great
to
take
a
look
at
it.
D
G
I
do
see
chris
band
and
nick
barkley
on
the
line
nick
and
chris,
if
you're
able
to
provide
that
link.
While
I'm
talking
about
the
case
that
that
that
could
work
as
well.
G
If
it
is
all
right
with
everyone,
I
I
could
proceed
with
just
describing
this
case,
and
we
should
be
able
to
get
that
link
out
to
you
in
a
few
minutes.
G
Okay,
so
again,
this
is
the
case
summary
number
opcr-21-02.
G
G
Thank
you
lisa
for
for
that
update.
So
this
the
summary
of
the
complaint
came
in
where
it
was
alleged
that
officers
deactivated
the
squads
lights
and
sirens
prior
to
arriving
to
an
unrelated
call
to
assist
another
agency
a
few
blocks
away.
G
So
this
is
what
we
would
call
like.
A
squad
accident
incident.
The
squad
entered
an
intersection
against
a
posted,
stop
sign
and
did
not
stop
for
that,
stop
sign.
At
the
same
time,
a
civilian
vehicle
entered
the
intersection
and
stopped,
and
the
squad
struck
the
civilian,
the
civilian
vehicle
along
the
passenger
side
of
their
car.
Both
officers
in
the
squad
were
transported
to
the
hospital,
and
the
loan
occupant
in
the
civilian
suv
was
transported
to
another
hospital.
G
So
we
receive
this
complaint
through
the
opcr
portal
and
is
then
uploaded
in
our
database
and
then
placed
into
what
we
call
an
intake
queue.
We
have
two
intake
investigators
with
opcr.
Now
what
they
would
do
is
that
they
will
kind
of
alternate
and
figure
out
which
cases
to
to
investigate.
Sometimes
they
go
by
one
one:
investigator
picks
the
oldest
cases,
one
investigator
picks
the
newest
ones,
and
then
they
kind
of
meet
in
the
middle
or
they
do
one
does
even
cases.
G
One
does
our
cases,
it
kind
of
alternates
on
their
work
schedule
and
what
fits
best
for
them.
So
an
investigator
then
opens
the
case,
reviews
the
complaint
and
tries
to
pull
in
as
much
information
as
possible
in
in
this
case
there
was
a
vizzinet
report,
which
is
also
called
a
cad
call.
So
a
computer
aided
dispatch.
G
G
So,
in
this
case,
the
the
problem
or
the
type
of
how
the
case
was
classified
as
the
officers
were
responding
to
the
scene,
was
what
they
would
call
a
jumper
call.
So
it
was
assisting
another
agency
which
was
fire
into
a
potential
situation
where
it
was
an
individual
that
was
in
danger
of
falling
from
a
high
place
within
a
building.
G
So
as
they're
responding
to
that
call,
the
squad
a
or
the
squad
accident
occurred.
That
incident
was
then
changed
to
a
property
damage
accident
and
it
was
it
had
alerted
mpd
and
dispatch
that
there
was
an
accident
involving
a
squad
that
had
taken
place
while
assist
while,
while
in
route
to
assisting
fire
and
ems.
G
So
in
that
process,
when
they
pulled
in
that
vizzinet
report,
it
is
reviewed
and
added
to
the
case.
They
also
look
for
a
police
report
which
in
this
case
is
called
pims,
which
is
a
police
information
management
system.
We
have
access
to
that.
We
pull
that
pims
report.
We
get
all
that
information,
it
is
drawn
into
our
database.
G
So
in
this
instance
there
is
information
and
supplements
about
the
squad,
a
incident.
It
gives
information
about
what
officers
did
at
the
time
direct
involvement
or
responding
officers,
what
they
had
done
to
assist
the
three
injured
parties,
which
were
the
two
officers
and
the
civilian
and
there's
also
comments
about
any
injuries.
What
was
done,
how
how
the
incident
took
place
and
what
was
done
afterwards?
G
They
also
analyzed
that
and
add
that
to
every
single
case
that
we
get
so
for
this
case.
Specifically,
we
also
got
data
consistent
with
accident
reviews,
so
there's
a
minnesota
state
accident
report.
There
are
minnesota
cic
case
details,
bosch
cdr
data,
which
is
basically
a
computer
printout
of
what
happened
to
the
squad
moments
before
an
accident
and
during
an
accident.
So,
for
example,
where
the
were
the
brakes
applied,
how
fast
were
they
going?
G
What
where
exactly
were
they
in
a
geo
map,
just
standard
crash
data
that
you
would
expect
in
regards
to
a
squad?
So
all
of
that
was
taken
in
during
intake
the
intake,
investigator
analyzes.
All
of
that
sees
what
relevant
policy
violations
may
or
may
not
have
occurred,
and
then
it
is
added
to
what
we
call
a
3401,
which
is
just
a
document
that
is
then
aided
what
they
used
to
aid
during
their
presentations
to
the
joint
supervisors.
G
Another
aspect
is
the
body-worn
camera.
We
have
access
to
that
as
well.
We
are
able
to
pull
all
the
body-worn
camera
that
is
associated
to
each
individual
case
review
it
see
if
there
are
any
policy
violations
that
could
come
from
viewing
that
body-worn
camera
again
it
as
if,
if
there
were
questions
with
activations
that
could
be
addressed
or
anything
that
we
can
see
from
their
viewpoint,
that
could
aid
in
the
investigation
so
specifically
to
this
case
in
the
body-worn
camera
of
officer
1,
which
is
the
driver
of
the
squad.
G
So
officers
were
located
a
few
blocks
away
at
the
time
that
they
were
dispatched
officer,
one
buckled
their
seatbelt
began,
driving
to
the
dispatch
location
with
emergency
lights
and
sirens
on,
while
in
route
to
the
dispatch
location,
they
had
turned
on
the
audio
navigation
system
that
is
within
the
squad,
so
gps
to
help
them
get
to
to
that
location
faster.
G
G
At
some
point,
the
squad
sirens
were
deactivated,
the
officer
one
unfastened
their
seatbelt
and
in
in
officer
one's
bwc
one
can
see
the
stop
sign
pass
on
the
right
side
of
their
bwc.
Then
you
can
hear
yelling
and
then
right
before
the
the
squad
collided
with
the
civilian
vehicle,
so
you're
able
to
see
that
through
their
body-worn
camera,
there
is
bwc
footage
for
officer
2
as
well.
It
provides
relatively
the
same
information,
the
biggest
difference
for
that
for
officer,
2's
body,
one
camera.
G
You
could
see
with
with
better
clarity
at
what
point
officer
one's
decision
to
turn
off
the
lights
and
sirens,
and
you
can
see
more
of
officer
one's
driving
conduct,
just
by
the
way
that
he
was
that
they
were
sitting
in
the
passenger
side
of
the
squad.
G
You
can
hear
their
decision
to
divert
and
and
pick
a
different
direction
to
the
incident
and
again
you
hear
the
yelling
and
that
subsequent
collision
with
the
civilian
car,
both
officers
remained
on
the
scene
until
they
deactivated
their
bwc
and
then
opcr
had
archived
that
that
bwc
for
future
use,
if
needed.
G
G
G
There
is
a
brief,
a
small
window
to
the
left
that
provides
just
some
basic
information
if,
when
the
brakes
were
applied,
how
fast
they
may
or
may
not
have
been
going
and
and
gps
coordinates.
G
So
within
that
nvr
activation
specific
to
this
case,
we
were
able
to
see
again
from
another
viewpoint
the
the
contact
between
the
squad
and
the
in
the
civilian
vehicle.
We
were
also
able
to
confirm
that
there
was
activation
of
lights
and
sirens,
and
there
was
also
that
deactivation
of
lights
and
sirens.
G
So
we
generally
have
intake
meetings
once
a
week
where
the
joint
supervisors,
being
the
director
of
the
office
of
police
conduct,
review
and
the
commander
of
internal
affairs,
along
with
the
investigators,
meet
and
and
decide
on
how
a
case
should
be
routed.
We
currently
do
not
have
a
director
of
opcr,
so
I
am
participating
as
the
investigations
manager
in
this
in
deciding
on
where
those
how
those
cases
should
be
routed.
G
So
there
are
several
options:
there
there's
an
administrative
investigation
option,
a
preliminary
investigation
cases
could
be
dismissed
for
various
reasons.
It
could
be
routed
for
coaching.
It
could
be
sent
to
a
as
a
referral.
Of
course,
that
is
case
specific
for
this
case,
it
was
excuse
me
getting
ahead
of
myself.
It
was
warranted
as
an
administrative
investigation
to
further
assess.
You
know
why
the
act,
why
the
officers
deactivated
their
lights
and
sirens
prior
to
arriving
and
causing
that
accident.
G
So
then,
the
case
was
then
assigned
to
a
sworn
investigator,
and
it
talked
briefly
about
that.
There
is
an
option
within
the
the
complaint
form
whether
or
not
a
complainant
would
like
a
sworn
or
civilian
investigator.
G
So
they,
the
investigator,
did
a
complainant
statement.
There
was
a
witness
statement,
a
focus
officer
statement
where
they
are
then
bringing
in
the
focus
officers
which
in
this
case
was
officer,
1
and
officer,
2
involved
in
that
primary
squad
and
provided
interviews
as
to
what
happened
so
that
administrative
investigation
was
completed
and
then
it
was
forwarded
to
two
panel.
G
Panel
found
merit
on
the
three
different
allegations,
which
were
vehicle:
seat
belts,
normal
and
emergency
vehicle
operation
and
a
second
policy
violation
that
is
also
within
the
normal
and
emergency
vehicle
operation.
G
G
So
again,
I
just
I
just
want
to
reference
that
opcr
has
a
direct
involvement.
Up
until
a
case
is
sent
to
panel
panel
has
their
own
independent
recommendation
and
we
provide
that
data
and
those
administrative
reports
to
them
and
they
provide
their
own
independent
recommendation,
which
is
then
sent
to
the
chief.
Of
course.
G
I
know
that
was
a
lot
of
information,
I'm
open
to
to
questions
if
there
are
any,
but
I
thought
it
was
important
to
also
give
an
example
of
of
what
we
would
of
the
amount
of
research
and
investigation
typically
for
for
an
administrative
case.
B
Sure,
well,
thanks
for
walking
us
through
that
example,
we
really
appreciate
it.
Could
you
reiterate,
I
know
you
mentioned
it
a
couple
of
times,
but
what
was
the
the
case
number
assigned
to
this
one.
G
Yes,
yes,
it
should
be
if
they
haven't
already,
then
I
I
will
put
it
in
there
as
soon
as
I
find
it.
B
People
thank
you
yeah.
I
looked
at
that
and
I
there's
a
it
looks
like
it
goes
up
to
a
certain
point
and
then
not
so
much.
Thank
you
lisa.
I
appreciate
it.
Okay,
commissioner,.
D
Yeah,
thank
you.
Chair
sparks
miss
amini.
I
I
really
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
go
through
that
in
detail.
I
think
it's
safe
to
say
in
the
two
plus
years
that
I've
been
on
this
commission.
This
is
by
far
the
most
in-depth
and
detailed
walkthrough
of
a
a
case
that
we've
had,
and
normally
you
know,
I'm
one
of
those
people
who's
just
trying
to
ask
for
more
information
and
try
to
get
an
understanding.
D
What's
going
on,
and
it's
very
clear
through
this
change
in
the
process
that
that
has
been
well
received,
and
I
really
appreciate
it,
it
is,
I
mean
even
without
being
able
to
have
the
report.
You
walked
us
through
a
a
process
that
I
think
is
still
new
for
a
lot
of
commissioners
and
we're
able
to
wrap
our
minds
around
it.
For
and
for
that,
thank
you.
D
D
G
Sure
well,
the
panel
for
each
case
involves
two
civilian
individuals
and
then
two
sworn
officers
usually
lieutenant
or
higher,
so
the
the
four
usually
well
at
least
now
they
are
meeting
through
teams.
They
are
handed
all
this
information
beforehand.
They
see
everything
in
regards
to
the
busy
net
reports:
the
pins
reports
they
review
the
body-worn
camera.
They
also
have
the
administrative
reports
in
front
of
them.
G
They
all
sit
review
and
then
they
they
then
go
through
each
alleged
allegation
and
and
verify
whether
or
not
if
the-
if
it
has
merit
or
not,
no
mary
so
because
it
is
their
standard,
is
more
likely
than
not
did
this
incident
occur
or
at
and
did
these
policy
violations
did
in
fact
occur
during
the
incident,
so
that
that
is,
I
guess,
to
answer
your
question.
That
is
their
standard.
More
likely
than
not
did
did
these
allegations
actually
occur.
C
G
We
do
have
a
of
like
a
pre-filled
form
that
they
are
then
able
to
discuss
their
their
understanding
of
the
case
and
what
they
feel
how
they
came
to
their
decision
as
to
something
having
married
or
no
merit.
G
C
G
Not
provide
anything
verbally,
we
do
not
provide
any
individual
interpretation
and
we
do
not
provide
our
own
opinion
of
this
case
other
than
what
is
presented
through
the
administrative
review.
D
Okay,
just
and
to
get
very
nitpicky
about
the
the
portion,
I'm
particularly
interested
in
you
said
that
they
came
to
a
decision
of
recommending
20-day
suspension
10-day
suspension
respectively.
For
each
of
these
officers
did
they
pick
those
numbers
out
of
thin
air?
You
know
what
was
it
based
off
of
what
sort
of
standard
did
they
choose
those
numbers
to
be
the
appropriate
recommendation?
G
D
And
and
the
chief,
so
the
panel
just
says,
there's
merit
to
this
case:
we've
decided
that
these
have
merit
and
they
don't
give
any
recommendation
on
how
the
chief
should
respond.
The
chief
has
unilateral
decision
making
on
yes
and
and
the
chief's
standards,
where
are
they
coming
from?
Does
the
chief
pull
that
20-day
suspension
in
the
10-day
suspension
out
of
thin
air
or
is
that
coming
from
somewhere.
G
D
D
D
G
C
D
Thank
you
for
the
the
clarification
on
that
yeah.
It's
one
of
those
things
and
I
guess
I've
taken
up
a
lot
of
time
already.
I
will,
I
guess,
just
put
the
question
out
there
is
this:
you
know
20-day
resp
suspension
and
10-day
suspension
respectively,
comparable
to
similar
types
of
infractions
that
also
received
merit
from
the
panel
or
do
you
know,
and
how
do
you
know.
G
There
is
a
there
is
a
trend
there
are,
there
is
precedence
for
the
amount
of
hours
of
suspensions
or
different
types
of
discipline,
actions
the
house
precedent
two
similar
cases,
yes
again
where,
where
that
standard
comes
from
or
where
the
the
the
chief
or
the
front
office
has
in
terms
of
where
they
get
the
10
to
20
hours,
I
cannot
was
certain
that's
a
question
for
for
mpd,
okay,.
D
Perfect,
thank
you
so
much.
I
really
appreciate
you.
You
know
walking
me
through
the
questions
that
I
have.
H
Hey,
thank
you
so
much
zamini.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
tonight
and
thank
you
for
being
a
public
servant.
I
really
appreciate
that.
That's
a
big
deal
just
two
super
basic
questions
about
this
case
number
one
was
the
lights
and
sirens
activated
on
the
squad
car
when
they
entered
the
intersection
when
they
disobeyed
the
stop
sign.
G
H
G
B
And
commissioner
mcguire,
I
see
your
hands
up.
E
Thanks,
I
just
thank
you
so
much.
I
had
one
more
process
question
after
you,
your
office
has
finished
kind
of
their
review
and
their
investigation
has
been
passed
off.
Would
you
ever
be
called
back
in
by
the
chief's
office
or
if
it
were
to
go
to
arbitration?
For
any
reason
would
does
your
office
ever
touch
these
investigations
again
or
get
called
in?
For
any
reason?
B
All
right,
the
other
commissioner's
questions,
comments,
concerns.
B
All
right,
well
just
carolina
thanks
again,
for
you
know,
walking
us
through
everything.
It
sounds
like
it's,
it's
a
pretty
complex
process
and
echoing
mr
comments,
that
was
by
far
the
best
explanation,
I've
ever
heard
of
how
it
all
works.
So
thanks
again,
I
think,
can
we
look
forward
to
more
in
future
meetings,
more
presentations
like
this
and
more
case
summaries?
Is
that
going
to
be
coming
soon?
G
Yes,
there
there
should
be
at
the
very
least
five
and
then,
as
we
kind
of
have
the
time
to
write
more
of
these
case
summaries,
we
will
upload
them
as
we
finish
them,
but
it
should
be
a
total
of
of
60
60
cases
for
this
year.
C
B
Okay,
our
next
item
of
business
is
a
discussion.
I
guess
we
kind
of
wanted
to
have
about
the
city
attorney's
office
and
their
outside
counsel
process.
I
think
specifically,
this
was
in
reference
to
jones
day
helping
with
a
police
case
review.
B
We
did
get
an
update
from
opcr
just
very
shortly
before
the
the
our
meeting
tonight,
confirming
that
jones
day
is
actively
participating
in
case
review.
B
It's
just
kind
of
a
kind
of
a
strange
thing
because
it
hasn't
come
up
in
a
really
public
way,
and
I
know
that
chair
sarah
was
kind
of
concerned
about
it.
So
my
understanding
from
the
update
that
we
received
from
our
the
civil
rights
department
interim
director
was
that
jones
day
is
providing
investigative
support.
B
B
They're
sort
of
being
worked
in
a
hybrid
fashion,
so
they're
helping,
in
other
words
there
were
no
cases
being
solely
handled
by
jones
day.
It's
just
kind
of
a
one
of
those
strange
things
as
we
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
jones
day
involvement
and
the
contract
with
the
city
of
minneapolis,
their
their
involvement
seems
to
be
a
little
bit
far-reaching.
B
One
could
say
so.
I
guess
I'll
start
by
opening
up
the
floors.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
comments?
Anything
they
want
to
bring
up?
I
think
on
the
agenda.
There
was
some
supporting
information
for
that.
E
E
A
Commissioner
sparks
I
can
make
an
attempt
to
share
that
document.
D
D
Is
there
any
reason
to
believe
that
there's
you
know
that
the
you
know
outside
consultation
is
anything
other
than
just
a
you
know
a
crutch
for
capacity
trying
to
like
address
a
capacity
issue
within
the
city.
I
mean
this
this
that's
what
it
reads
like
to
me.
B
Yeah,
that's
one
of
many
possible
interpretations
and
I
think
that
would
be
the
balcony
approach
right,
that
they
are
having
staffing
issues
and
the
backlog
and
they
needed
help
going
through
it.
I
think
that
one
possible
interpretation
is
that
it
was
a
strange
way
to
get
help
being
that
it
was
lumped
into
general
legal
services
for
the
for
the
city.
B
D
And
so
the
concern
is
the
broadness
of
the
consultation
they're
not
being
consulted
about
a
specific
case.
That's
particularly
complex,
or
something
that
you
know
will
take
up
a
lot
of
like
city
staff
time,
but
they're
just
they're
generally
becoming
a
you
know,
an
advisor
in
these
legal
services
in
general
that
that
correct
what
you're
saying.
B
I
think
so,
and
then
sometimes
you
hear
concerns
about
the
expense
too.
It's
a
million,
I
believe
a
million
dollar
contract,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
what
the
cost
is
related
to
assisting
with
opcr
investigations,
but
one
has
to
wonder
right
if
that's
a
cost
effective
way
to
do
it.
Jones
day
is
a
very
expensive
law
firm.
Maybe
there's
somebody
else
we
could
have
partnered
with
for
to
help
resolve
a
if
it's
a
short-term
staffing
issue.
D
It
would
be
interesting
to
do
a
cost-benefit
analysis
of
this,
but
my
my
I
mean
would
there
be
a
possibility
that
this
is
through?
D
I
mean
we
could
do
a
cost-benefit
analysis
of
this.
I
just
don't
know
to
what
end
that
would
you
know
be
possible
to
you
know,
get
that
financial
data
of
the
legal
services
rendered
through
this
firm
versus
you
know
quantifying
city
staff
hours
at
city
staff
rates
to
do
the
same
job
yeah.
That's
just
a
back
of
the
napkin
idea,
but
I
think
to
that
end
thinking
about
the
scope
of
our
responsibilities.
D
I'm
just
I'm
just
externalizing
the,
and
I
know
this
is
like
the
second
time
we've
brought
this
up,
because
I
ended
up
being
the
pro
temp
chair
at
our
last
meeting,
and
I
know
we
tabled
this
for
chair
sarah
to
to
kind
of
have
her
input
on
this
and,
unfortunately
she's
not
here
tonight.
So
this
is
kind
of
what's
just
been
ruminating
on
my
mind
regarding
this.
B
B
Anybody
else
have
any
comments,
questions
anything
they
want
to
share.
With
regard
to
mr
mcguire
thank.
E
You
I
have
just
one
comment
in
thinking
of
how
it
could
intersect
with
our
work,
and
I
still
don't
know
if
it's
the
most
direct
relation,
but
if
jones
day
is
participating
in
investigative
work.
That
means
they
are
handling,
maybe
to
some
extent,
city
data
or
important
data.
So
it
would
just
be
like
reassurances
that
that
remains
protected
or
stored,
the
correct
way
that
it
would
be
accessible
to
the
city
of
minneapolis
later.
E
I
think
there
could
be
some
information
concerns,
I
suppose,
but
I
I
mean
I
would
like
to
hear
chair
sarah's
at
some
points,
thoughts
on
it,
because
I
know
she
spent
a
lot
of
time.
Looking
into
this.
B
Yeah,
I
would
too,
and
that's
a
good
point.
I
know
that
she
was
able
to
get
a
copy
of
the
the
agreement
between
jones
day
and
the
city.
I
don't
have
it
handy
and
I
haven't
studied
it
closely
enough
to
know.
If
there's
I.
B
Something
in
there,
for
you,
know,
correct
handling
of
data
and
privileged
data,
but
it
makes
you
wonder
too.
I
mean
jones
day
provides
a
plethora
of
services
to
public
and
private
energy.
B
How
are
we
to
know
that
data
from
their
work
in
opcr
minneapolis
doesn't
wind
up
in
one
of
those
other
projects
or
in
a
pitch
meeting
or
in
a
spreadsheet
somewhere
that
they
use
for
one
of
those
other
services
that
they
provide
or
that
they've
a
study
that
they
do
in
the
future?
That
kind
of
thing-
and
it
does
make
you
concerned
what
they,
what
they
might
do
with
our
data.
B
All
right
lisa,
I
think,
could
we
table
this
one
for
the
next
meeting,
just
keep
it
on
the
agenda
for
next
time.
B
Thank
you.
Okay,
if
there's
nothing
else
on
them
sounds
like
there's
nothing
else
on
the
outside
console
process,
so
we
can
move
on
to
office
of
internal
auditor
okay,
so
we
have.
B
What
my
notes
on
this
one
here
so
there's
a
bunch
of
attachments
under
this
one
too,
but
I
think
the
gist
of
it
is
that
the
with
the
city
charter,
amendment
passing
on
the
city
council
is
supposed
to
be
setting
up
an
independent
auditor
office
that
independent
auditor.
B
All
kinds
of
roadblocks
that
we
run
into
here,
the
in
theory
that
office
of
the
auditor,
once
it's
created
and
staff
and
so
forth,
may
not
run
into
chair
sarah
and
I
authored
an
op-ed
to
the
star
tremune.
Basically,
in
a
nutshell,
it
expresses
that
we
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea
for
pcoc
to
be
moved
under
the
office
of
the
auditor.
B
In
theory,
if
we're
moved
under
that
office,
we
may
not
hit
the
same
roadblocks
that
we
keep
running
into
in
terms
of
access
to
data
operations
and
so
forth,
everything
having
to
be
public
and
so
forth.
This
commission
might
be
able
to
do
what
it's
been
tasked
with
more
effectively
and
be
able
to
dive
deeper,
dig
deeper
without
those
sorts
of
constraints,
so
open
that
up
for
discussion.
If
anybody
would
like
to
talk
about
it,.
D
D
One
of
one
of
the
great
things
about
our
commission's
charter
as
it
is,
is
that
we're
publicly
facing
right
and
sometimes
that's
a
barrier
to
us
getting
the
information
that
we
need,
but
that's
kind
of
the
deal
that
we
make
so
to
speak,
and
we've
talked
about
how
we
weigh
the
balance
of
those
two
things
public
facing
versus
access
to
data.
If
we're
under
an
independent
auditor,
would
we
necessarily
be
as
publicly
facing
or
do
you
know
the
answer
to
that.
B
I
don't
think
we
yeah.
I
don't
think
that
we
know.
I
think
that
my
assumption
what
I
hope
to
be
the
case
is
that
we
could
remain
as
public
facing.
I
think
that
chair
sarah
has
brought
up
the
idea
several
times
that
we
we
could
have
the
same
meetings
and
then
she
believes
under
our
current
the
current
rules.
Now
we
could
have
the
same
meetings
and
have
them
be
open,
except
for
closed
parts,
maybe
at
the
end
where
we
would
discuss
privileged
data
stuff,
that's
not
supposed
to
be
public.
B
I
know
that
the
city
attorney's
office
has
expressed
a
different
opinion
and
that's
been
the
prevailing
opinion,
but
it's
possible
that
we
would
have
more
latitude
to
do
that
if
we
were
moved
under
the
audit
office.
C
B
B
Thank
you
so
much.
Okay.
Moving
on
to
our
next
item.
Okay,
so
we
have
the
draft
2022
calendar,
our
meeting
calendar.
We
pretty
much,
have
all
the
dates
figured
out
except
for
november
2022.
That
meeting
date
happens
to
fall
on
an
election
day,
so
we'll
have
to
select
a
different
date.
B
The
calendar
that
has
already
been
prepared
suggests
tuesday
november
5th,
as
a
as
the
starting
point
for
that
meeting,
instead
of
tuesday
november
8th,
which
is
again
an
election
day,
we
always
strive
to
have
the
second
tuesday
of
the
month,
be
our
regular
meeting,
but
in
this
case
got
an
item
that
interferes
personally.
I
think
that
that's
a
fine
suggestion,
then
I'd
be
fine
taking
it.
I
can
open
up
open
it
up
for
discussion
or
we
can
just
we
can
move
on
to
about.
If
everybody
thinks
that's.
Okay,.
B
All
right:
well,
I
will,
I
guess
I'll,
make
a
motion.
I
will
make
a
motion
to
update
the
the
2022
meeting
calendar
for
the
november
meeting
to
be
november
tuesday
november
15th.
Could
I
have
a
second
for
that?
Please.
H
B
B
All
right,
let's
be
on
the
safe
side,
all
right
I'll
make
a
motion
to.
H
C
C
B
B
Okay,
we'll
move
on
to
our
next
item,
which
is
a
staff
update
on
commission
appointments,
as
I
think
we
know
that
we
have
a
few
open
seats
and
then
a
few
commissioners
whose
commission
has
expired
but
have
graciously
decided
to
stay
on.
For
the
time
being,
we're
hoping
somebody
from
city
staff
will
be
able
to
give
us
an
update
on
upcoming
commission
appointments,
three
appointments
interviews,
all
that
kind
of
thing,
and
I
see
that
carolina
amini
has
made
herself
visible.
Did
you
have
an
update
for
us.
G
Yes,
I
do
thank
you,
so
we
have
a
new
review
process
for
managing
appointments
to
the
boards
and
commissions.
The
goal
is
to
provide
a
consistent
approach
across
the
groups,
so
we
have
been
working.
Opcr
has
been
working
with
city
equity,
to
staff,
to
try
and
establish
a
criteria
for
evaluation
of
applicants
and
also
to
provide
an
increased
level
of
transparency
through
the
expanded
opportunities
when
the
requirement
for
the
applications
of
not
having
a
pending
complaint
was
removed.
G
We
are
still
confirming
the
date,
but
approximately
by
march
14th.
The
applications
portal
will
be
open
and
again
we
still
have
to
confirm,
but
we
are
anticipating
that
thursday
march
31st,
the
applications
portal
will
close
and
then,
from
march
28th
to
april
1st,
the
application
review
should
be
completed.
G
Candidates
will
be
notified
of
upcoming
interviews
and
then
a
formal
interview
schedule
will
be
sent
to
the
mayor
and
council
offices
by
or
between
april
4th
to
april
8th.
The
candidate
interviews
are
expected
to
be
held,
and
then
the
final
slate
of
candidates
is
identified
and
then
around
the
time
of
april
11th
they
will
request
for
council
action
is
and
is
submitted
to
the
clerk's
office
and
then
towards
the
end
of
april.
They
will
have
a
public
health
and
safety
committee
meeting.
There
will
be
a
an
excuse
me
april
28th.
G
B
G
B
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
Anybody
on
the
commission
have
any
questions
comments
for
carolina.
I
mean
about
this.
B
Okay,
next
item
is
the
chair
slash
vice
chair
report.
I
don't
really
have
much
of
an
update
on
anything
specific
to
the
chair
vice
chair.
We
did
make
that
chair
sarah
and
I
authored
that
op-ed
statement.
There's
a
link
in
the
meeting
agenda.
I'm
gonna
believe
that
went
to
the
star
tree.
B
That
was
about
the
auditor's
office.
Other
than
that.
I
don't
personally
think
I
have
any
other
updates
to
provide.
B
All
right
I'll
move
to
the
next
item,
which
is
the
audit
subcommittee
report.
It's
the
last
audit
subcommittee
meeting
that
we
had
was
january
24th.
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
updates
from
that
one
either.
It
was
kind
of
a
quick
meeting.
We
got
a
real
nice
update
from
chris
band
on
the
no
knock
warrant
study
and
he
was
able
to
kind
of
walk
us
through
some
of
the
data
that
he'd
been
gathering
and
some
of
the
preliminary
findings.
B
I
think
there
were
one
or
two
updates
we
were
hoping
for
for
from
city
staff
who
fortunately
were
not
able
to
attend,
and
then
I
think
we
just
ended
up
tabling
everything
for
the
for
the
next
meeting.
D
I
do
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
holding
the
meeting
while
I
was
absent
from
that,
and
I
was
happy
to
see
the
draft
for
that.
You
mentioned
come
out
in
in
that
meeting
excited
to
dive
into
it
in
our
next
audit
subcommittee.
B
B
All
right
next
looks
like
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
public
comment
section,
oh
actually,
on
the
audit
sub
committee
report.
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
and
mention
with
commissioner
pinau-
that
that
no
knock
study
that
we've
been
working
on
and
and
trying
to
to
spin
up
is
probably
going
to
take
on
a
new
level
of
urgency
and
importance
with
recent
events.
Yeah.
B
All
right,
we'll
move
on
to
the
public
comment
section
of
our
meeting.
Members
of
the
public
can.
B
Have
their
chance
to
speak,
I
will
open
the
floor
and
invite
comments
from
the
community.
We
will
limit
the
public
comment
period
to
no
more
than
two
minutes
per
speaker.
F
Hello,
this
is
dave
bicking.
There
is
so
much
more
to
comment
on
this
meeting
that
I
can
possibly
do
in
two
minutes.
Some
just
jaw
dropping
items.
F
Really
caused
by
a
no
knock
warrant,
which
your
committee,
your
commission,
took
up
beginning
in
april
of
last
year,
and
you
had
an
excellent
presentation
from
no
knock
minnesota
and
referred
that
to
committee
and
because
of
a
variety
of
issues
that
has
languished,
which
is
most
most
unfortunate,
some
of
it's
a
capacity
issue
and,
of
course,
some
of
that's
on
the
city
for
not
appointing
people
and
we'll
get
to
that
later.
F
But
some
of
it
is
a
lack
of
the
city
cooperation
and
getting
data.
Some
of
it
seemed
to
be
an
issue
of
well.
We
don't
know
if
that's
really
in
your
wheelhouse
and
the
city
attorney
objecting
to
things
so,
but
all
in
all
your
efforts
on
that
which
were
really
started
out
with
great
intentions.
Your
efforts
on
that
were
frustrated,
and
you
know
that
is
directly
related
to
this
death
and
the
results
that
that's
going
to
have
in
our
community
going
forward
for
a
long
time.
F
I
looked
back
through
the
minutes.
It
was
in
april
that
you,
you
know,
had
that
presentation
in
the
audit
committee
in
april.
It
was
continued
in
may
in
may.
It
was
continued
in
june,
but
there
were
a
couple
of
links
in
june.
It
was
postponed
in
july.
F
You
directed
the
staff
to
draft
something
for
you
for
the
july
meeting,
but
in
july
it
was
postponed
again
in
august.
It
was
postponed
to
september
and
so
on
and
so
on.
Finally,
in
the
january
meeting,
you've
got
a
draft
exploratory
data
report
from
the
city,
but
the
because
of
your
lack
of
capacity
and
lack
of
city
cooperation.
F
That's
been
postponed
to
your
february
28th
audit
subcommittee
meeting,
which
is
needless
to
say
much
too
late.
So
this
is
a
little
bit
on
the
pcoc,
though
all
in
all
I'll
give
you
credit
for
having
initiated
this
and
tried,
whereas
the
city,
the
civil
rights
staff,
are
absolutely
responsible
for
frustrating
your
work
once
again
in
a
way
that
has
led
to
an
unjustified
killing.
F
I
want
to
quickly
say
on
other
topics
on
jones
day:
the
city
attorney's
office
jones
day
or
not
shouldn't
have
any
involvement
in
investigating
cases.
That
is
the
exact
opposite
of
having
a
firewall
between
you
know,
complaint
process
and
the
city
attorney's
office,
which
prosecutes
the
misdemeanors
that
are
often
go
along
with
the
police
interaction.
So
that's
terrible
42
on
the
appointments.
This
is
now
absolutely
outrageous.
You're
going
to
go
four
months
without
new
members
of
your
committee
you're
being
frustrated.
This
is
a
purposeful
thing
by
the
city.
F
The
people
who
applied
by
october
22nd
have
not
yet
received
any
mention
that
it's
now
going
to
be
another
two
or
three
months
before
any
action
is
taking
their
appointments.
It
is
going
to
be
literally
six
months
between
the
closing
of
the
applications
and
the
consideration
or
interviews
for
those
appointments.
F
I
just
hope
that
maybe
maybe
finally,
the
post
parliaments
and
delay
will
end
so
that
you
have
new
members
in
may,
but
this
is
something
I'm
going
to
take
to
the
city
council
and
let
people
know
the
absolutely
absolutely
outrageous
disappointment
process.
There
is
no
excuse
on
the
case
selection
thing.
F
I
guess
I
should
leave
that
on
over
my
two
minutes.
I
know
I
am,
but
I
would
have
several
comments
on
that.
Just
want
to
make
a
quick
note:
it
was
20
hours
and
10
hours
of
suspension,
not
20
days
or
10
days.
I
can
understand
the
mistake,
because
it's
hard
to
believe
it
would
be
only
that
small,
a
suspension,
the
amount
of
discipline
I'm
familiar
with
that
case.
It
was
in
the
news.
You
could
look
it
up,
but
you
know
running
a
red
light
without
lights
and
sirens
damaging
significant
damage.
F
Two
vehicles,
injuring
three
people-
and
you
know
two
days
and
one
day
of
lost
pay
for
that.
This
is
the
point
that
we
and
cuapb
have
been
trying
to
make
for
years
and
years
and
years.
The
discipline
is
absolutely
nothing
compared
to
what
it
needs
to
be
and
again
my
apologies
for
running
on,
but
it's
the
city's
actions
are
what
leads
to
people
being
killed,
and
this
is
extremely
serious.
F
B
B
Does
anybody
else
anybody
else
in
the
community
who
are
on
the
line
like
to
speak,
just
a
reminder?
It's
star
6,
to
unmute
yourself
and
if
you
can
state
your
name
for
the
record.
I
Hello,
this
has
been
henry.
Can
you
hear
me.
I
Hi,
this
is
ben
henry
reporter
with
kstp.
This
question
isn't
for
a
specific
commissioner,
but
to
the
commission
as
a
whole,
and
if
you
do
respond,
alas,
please
state
your
first,
your
name
and
title
with
the
commission.
Please
can
you
just
share
what
kind
of
work
is
being
done
to
address
the
department's
policy?
I
know
knock
warrants.
Please.
B
D
Yeah
sure
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
I'm
hearing
the
question
correctly
you're
saying
our
work
on
the
subject,
sir,
or
are
you
saying
that.
D
Okay,
yeah
so
hold
on.
Let
me
just
turn
on
my
camera
here.
D
As
was
mentioned
earlier
in
the
meeting,
we
had
a
presentation
by
a
third
party
organization
last
year
that
brought
the
current
status
from
their
perspective,
of
no
knock
warrants
or
unannounced
entry
warrants
to
our
attention.
This
commission
felt
that
that
presentation
was
compelling
enough
to
begin
our
own
exploratory
audit.
D
On
the
subject
that
was
referred
to
the
audit
subcommittee,
of
which
I
am
the
chair,
we
ended
up
beginning
that
audit
process
by
first
asking
the
question:
are
there
meaningful
differences
in
both
practices,
as
well
as
outcomes
between
announced
and
unannounced
entry
warrants,
and
we
we
ended
up
defining
that
on
a
myriad
of
factors
of
which
are
in
our
audit
subcommittee
minutes,
and
I
can
link
those
to
you
later
if
you'd
like
and
we're
just
starting
now
to
get
summary
data
back.
D
That
was
the
report
that
commissioner
sparks
and
I
referenced
earlier
in
this
meeting
and
I'll
I'll,
make
sure
that
you
can
have
a
link
to
that.
That
is
in
the
most
recent
audit
subcommittee
and
right
now,
the
most
up-to-date
version
of
what
we're
doing
is
going
to
be
taking
a
look
at
that
report
and
see
what
meaningful
differences
we
can
find
between
announced
and
unannounced
warrants
and
then
talk
to
you
know,
city,
council,
and
share
that
report
with
with
the
police
department.
B
B
C
I
Again,
exactly
if
I
can
have
a
follow-up,
since
no
one
else
is
chiming
in,
of
course,
it's
been
just
under
a
week
since
the
shooting
death
of
amir
lock
has
there
been
any
discussions
since
that
you
know
to
speed
up
that
process,
as
as
you
mentioned,
or
has,
or
has
anything
changed
essentially
in
this
week.
D
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
that
again,
commissioner,
sparks
if
you'd
like
yeah,
please
yeah,
I
mean
I
will
say.
Mr
henry,
I
can't
speak
for
the
entire
commission,
but
I
will
say
personally,
you
know
when
I
found
out
about
the
death
of
amir
lock.
D
I
immediately
saw
how
this
would
change
the
tone
of
our
investigation,
and
I
you
know
referenced
commissioner
sparks
in
that
conversation
about
this.
Just
before
we
had
public
comment
that
this
is
of
a
particular
sensitivity
to
our
subcommittee.
D
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
finding
an
appropriate
balance
between
expediency,
making
sure
that
we
have
information
coming
out
to
the
public
in
a
timely
manner,
but
also
accuracy
and
making
sure
that
we're
providing
a
reliable
and
legitimate
result
of
our
work
and
finding
the
appropriate
balance
between
that
is
one
of
the.
D
The
main
focuses
that
we
have
we're:
definitely
not
going
to
rush
information
and
risk
it
being
incorrect,
because
we
know
that
the
accuracy
of
that
information
is
really
important
to
the
public
and
their
understanding
of
no
knock
warrants
and
the
differences
between
that
and
announced
warrants.
I
B
So
I
believe
the
way
it
works
is
that
the
the
public
has
to
dial
in
via
phone,
and
then
the
commission
and
city
staff
are
on
zoom
and
then
the
zoom
is
made
available
later
via
the
city's
youtube
channel
for
review.
B
H
Not
a
problem.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
mr
bicking
again
for
his
comments.
I
always
learn
a
little
bit
from
mr
bicking
once
a
month
and
if
I'm
ever
as
engaged
as
mr
bicking
is
in
my
life,
I
think
I
will
be
successful,
so
I
I
deeply
appreciate
mr
bicking
and
mr
henry.
Please
thank
you
for
coming
tonight.
Thank
you
for
taking
an
interest
in
this
and
please
feel
free
to
come
back
in
the
future.
We
appreciate
your
work
and
please
feel
free
to
come
back.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
commissioner
sylvester
anybody
else
who
would
like
to
speak
star
six
to
unmute
and
if
you
could
state
your
name
for
the
record.
B
B
All
right,
I'm
not
hearing
anybody
else
so
I'll.
Just
thank
all
of
our
public
speakers
for
their
comments
tonight.
We
do
appreciate
the
the
comments
and
the
participation
and
the
questions.
So
thank
you
so
much.
B
Okay
with
that,
it
looks
like
we
have
concluded
all
items
on
our
agenda
for
this
meeting
I'll
see
everyone
back
here
next
month
for
the
march
8
2022
regular
meeting,
it
looks
like
we
have
no
further
business
before
us
and
without
objection.
I
will
declare
the
meeting
adjourned
thanks.
Everyone
and
good
night.