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A
Go
ahead,
it's
recording
welcome
to
it's
february,
8th
2022,
and
this
is
the
bicycle
advisory
committee
engineering
subcommittee,
and
I
want
to
read
this
quick
message
for
you
and
notice.
This
meeting
may
involve
the
remote
participation
by
members,
either
by
telephone
or
other
electronic
means
due
to
the
local
public
health
emergency
novell.
I
think
that
says:
they'll
coronavirus
pandemic
pursue
it
to
the
provisions
of
minnesota
statute.
Section
13d
point
two:
one:
zero,
two
one
all
right,
so
we
have
kind
of
a
not
a
fool,
but
we
do
have
our
identification
items.
A
It
looks
like
we
have
one
two
looks
like
four
or
five:
five.
All
right
and
our
first
one
is
going
to
be
high
lake
is,
is
kelsey
here,
yeah
good
afternoon,
hi
kelsey.
Can
you
give
me
a
moment?
I
gotta
change
my
screen
here,
a
little
bit
all
right.
Do
you
need
any
help
with
videos
or
anything?
Are
you
set
the
domain.
C
B
All
right,
well,
maybe
just
a
quick
introduction
for
those
who
that
don't
know
me,
I'm
kelsey
fote,
I'm
a
transportation
planner
with
the
city
of
minneapolis.
I
have
a
couple
partner
agencies
on
the
line
that
are
also
working
on
the
high
lake
project,
jason,
aaron
and
stephanie.
E
I
guess
I'll
go
first,
aaron
tag
with
mndot.
I
am
a
west
area
engineer,
help
oversee
projects
in
henburn
county
and
in
the
and
am
the
mndot
project
manager
for
the
highlake
interchange
yeah
go
ahead,
lisa.
F
D
And
I
am
jason
stebel
with
hennepin
county
project
manager
for
the
county,
so
the
this
is
a
multi-agency
project.
I
don't
think
anyone
from
metro
transit
is
on
right
now,
but
they're
also
involved.
So
the
multi-agency
part
of
it
is
the
high
leg.
Interchange
is
being
designed
and
then
constructed
by
mndot.
D
Hennepin
county
is
the
owner
of
lake
street,
so
we
are
taking
the
lead
on
the
outreach
for
the
project,
and
this
is
all
in
the
city
of
minneapolis,
so
they
are
very
important
partner
in
this
and
then
metro
transit
has
the
light
rail
that
goes
parallel
to
hiawatha
and
then
the
future
bee
line
that
will
be
on
lake
street.
So
we
just
need
a
federal
government
agency
and
we
got
everybody
so
so
for
you.
Those
are
familiar.
D
This
is
the
hiawatha
lake
area
in
minneapolis,
so
let
me
get
get
going
so,
as
I
said,
the
partners
are
hennepin,
mndot,
minneapolis
and
metro
transit.
D
D
So
some
contacts-
this
is
kind
of
the
corner
of
couple
different
neighborhoods,
longfellow,
east
phillips
and
corcoran,
and
then
so
there's
also
little
micro
communities
within
all
these
neighborhoods.
And
so
there's
a
lot
of
destinations
for
people
in
these
neighborhoods
throughout
this
area
and
for
people
in
more
minneapolis
and
into
the
suburbs.
D
So
some
demographics
of
the
area,
it's
a
fairly
evenly
populated
neighborhoods,
different
levels
of
people
of
color
and
home
ownerships-
are
between
the
30
and
60
range.
D
D
There's
a
high
lake
shopping
center,
that's
to
the
north
west,
which
includes
some
apartment
buildings
and
some
grocery
stores,
and
then
there's
the
lift
garage
for
this
for
reference
and
there's
the
new
raising
canes
right.
There
too.
D
We
have
a
lot
of
walking
and
biking,
transit
and
vehicles,
so
high
levels
on
all
those
items,
and
so
it's
as
we
all
know,
this
is
a
community,
that's
rebuilding
and
so
we're
trying
to
be
very
sensitive
to
that
when
we're
doing
our
outreach
here
so
the
path
forward,
we
kind
of
talked
about
the
studies
and
now
we're
kind
of
getting
into
designing
the
space
under
the
bridge
we'll
get
into
the
details
here,
a
little
bit
more,
but
that's
in
2021
2022
years.
D
What
does
this
space
look
like
once?
We've
reconstructed,
the
interchange
and
then
in
2024
is
where
construction
would
start
late
2023
into
2024
is
where
when
construction
would
start
so
looking
at
the
intersection
redesign,
this
is
the
current
single
point
top
down
view.
We've
digitally
removed
the
the
bridges,
so
you
can
see
lake
street
below
it's
a
single
point,
interchange.
So
everything
comes
to
one
point,
as
you
can
see,
a
lot
of
different
ways
for
vehicle
traffic
to
take
high
speed
turns
and
a
little
different.
The
pedestrian
realm
is
not
ideal.
D
So
then,
we
kind
of
show
where
the
metro
transit
bee
line
stations
are
those
two
t's
that
are
on
the
left
side
of
the
screen.
Then
the
orange
that's
coming
down
the
one
ramp.
There
is
a
trail
bike
connection
we're
making
to
the
north
28th.
D
This
will
kind
of
continue
the
connection
there
right
now
it
pinches
down,
and
this
will
kind
of
give
a
little
bit
more
space
so
that
bicycle
connection
can
come
down
here
to
this
area.
D
D
So
back
to
this
image,
again
kind
of
just
kind
of
talking
about
adding
I've
already
kind
of
talked
about
this,
but
adding
traffic
signals
more.
Traditional
helps
to
slow
down
traffic,
making
those
left
and
right
turns
off
the
freeway.
D
D
Right
now,
under
the
bridge,
is
pretty
much
these
odd-shaped
areas
that
are
pretty
big
to
be
under
there,
but
they
will
be
expanding
greatly.
D
D
It
would
not
help
with
issues
that
might
be
out
there
today,
so
we're
kind
of
trying
to
get
outreach
and
thoughts
on
what
what
can
the
space
be
used
for
in
the
future,
we're
talking
75
to
50
feet
wide
areas
on
both
sides
we
kind
of
talked
about
you
know
how
do
these
fit
into
the
goals
of
climate
safety
and
and
compliance
with
needs
of
transportation.
D
They're
trying
to
find
that
you
know
that
perfect.
That
area,
where
everything
can
make
sense,
where
we
have
some
community
partners
committed
to
the
space,
public
priorities
and
values,
are
reflected
and
and
guidelines
for
using
space
under
the
bridge
can
be
met.
D
I
kind
of
give
the
extreme
picture
like
mndot
would
not
support,
not
that
we
would
do
that
storing
flammables
under
the
bridge.
That's
not
something
that
could
be
done.
So
that's
kind
of
the
guidelines
that'd
be
the
extreme
example
of
a
guideline
and
so
we're
trying
to
find
what
what
can
be
done
under
that
bridge.
D
So
stephanie
who's,
helping
with
the
outreach
has
collected,
made
this
powerpoint
for
us.
But
one
thing
is
this
kind
of
inspiring
thoughts
are
some.
D
H
D
Mndot
has
a
partnership
with
the
city
of
hopkins,
the
city
of
hopkins
and
has
a
a
partnership
with
third
layer
skate
shop,
and
this
is
just
an
example
of
some
space
that
non-transportation
use
of
space
under
in
a
min
dot
right
away.
D
Some
story
map
the
story
map
that
kind
of
goes
through
what
I
did
on
this
powerpoint
and
provides
a
link
to
the
survey
that
we
have,
and
so
a
lot
of
information
coming
out
there
now
for
the
public
to
get
back
to
us,
and-
and
hopefully
we
can
get
some
ideas
on
what
we
should
do
in
this
area.
G
No,
I
think
you
hit
on
some
key
points
with
the
engagement.
The
two
things
that
are
areas
for
people
to
take
action
is
number
one.
There's
the
survey
jason
mentioned.
That's
in
the
story
map.
We
will
be
giving
away
some
target
gift
cards
to
people
we'll
do
drawings
for
a
few
people
of
those
who
respond
to
this
survey,
just
to
encourage
response
so
feel
free
to
share
that
with
others,
and
then
there's
also
opportunities
to
register
for
the
open
houses
coming
up
at
the
end
of
the
month.
D
So
last
thing
is
the
the
website
is
hennepin.us
hi
lake
in
there
there's
the
link
to
the
story
map
that
stephanie
shared
in
the
chat
people
can
reach
out
to
myself
or
stephanie
on
outreach
items.
But
with
that
I
we're
open
to
questions
and
comments
and
anything
else.
I
Hi
this
is
kadence.
I
have
like
five
questions.
I
can
go
through
them
very
quickly.
First
question:
I
just
want
to
know
if
there's
like
any
specific
targeted
outreach
to
like
indigenous
communities,
whether
that's
like
nafta
or
east
phillips,
I
think
for
those
of
us
who
maybe
pass
through
here
a
lot
there's
oftentimes
people
who
are
using
this
for
shelter,
and
I
think
that
you're
going
to
hear
a
lot
of
feedback
that
any
type
of
like
hostile
architecture
or
design
is
not
going
to
be
well
received.
I
I
Second
question:
I'm
just
curious
too,
with
I
believe
lake
street
is
getting
brt
and
I'm
not
sure
if
a
station
is
planned
here.
I
just
don't
know
how
that's
going
to
integrate
with
that
yeah.
Okay,.
D
G
So
I'll
address
the
specific
one
on
targeted
outreach
to
the
indigenous
communities,
so
we
first
presented
the
fact
that
this
project
was
coming
up
to
the
minneapolis
urban
indian
directors
in
november,
and
so
we
put
this
on
their
radar
at
that
time
and
actually
asked
for
input
on
recommending
individuals
to
serve
on
an
advisory
committee.
That's
going
to
help
us
really
take
in
the
public
feedback
we
receive
and
help
think
through
how
to
how
to
solve
the
puzzle
of
those
three
pillars.
G
Jason
mentioned
lisa
austin
who's
on
this
call
also
had
this
project
presented
to
the
tribal
consultation
group
at
mndot,
so
she
could
speak
to
that
and
then
east
phillips
improvement
coalition
is
involved
with
that
advisory
committee.
I
had
mentioned
and
they're
also
helping
us
with
some
of
that
outreach
locally,
and
then
they
have
appointed
a
community
member
to
serve
on
the
advisory
committee
representing
the
neighborhood
she's,
a
resident
of
little
earth
who
teaches
at
anishinabe.
G
I
Yeah,
just
from
like
a
user
perspective,
I
I
have
used
the
west
side
hiawatha
trail
quite
a
bit
and
connecting
like
from
28
headed
south,
like
there
have
been
times
in
the
winter,
where
I
am
carrying
my
bike
on
my
shoulder
and
like
need
a
knee
deep
snow.
I
So,
like
the
west
side
of
that
connection,
is
a
little
dicey
and
then,
when
you're
crossing
south
over
the
intersection,
it
also
gets
a
little
messy
with
like
how
you're
supposed
to
interact
with
people
who
are
pedestrians
on
that
on
that,
like
south
west
most
corner
yeah
it
just,
it
gets
a
little
tight.
There's
like
a
little
bit
of
a
weird
grade,
sloping
curve
and
so
like.
I
usually
try
to
like
get
into
the
street
there.
I
D
Okay,
clarifying
question
so
you're
coming
from
up
here
crossing
over
and
you're
continuing
down
off
the
screen
here,
that's
the
movement!
Okay,
the
width.
You
know
the
width
of
the
trail
on
this
side
is
going
to
be
in
excess
of
10
feet
wide.
So
the
number
of
lanes
on
that
ramp
will
go
from.
I
think
three
down
to
two,
so
we're
taking
up
that
extra
space
for
the
trail
haven't
had
much
discussion
about
on
this
side
of
lake
street.
D
Yet
I'm
connecting
that
further
south,
but
I
think
I
can
follow
up
with
kelsey
to
see
what
that
connection.
I
think
we're
open
to
it.
It's
just
knowing
what
what
we
need
to
do.
There.
I
Yeah,
I
mean
that's
been
a
long
time
route
of
mine
before
the
trail
was
constructed
on
the
on
the
east
side
and
I'm
usually
coming
from
west
of
hiawatha.
So
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
me
to
cross
hiawatha
twice
yeah
to
be
on
the
west
side
and
then
my
last
few
questions
I'm
just
curious
about
on
the
design
vehicle
with.
So
if
you
go
back
to
the
slide
with
the
proposed
change,
I'm
just
curious
if
there's
any
type
of
like
slimming
up
or
like
mountable
curb
for
people
who
are
walking
biking.
I
Some
of
these
are
still
kind
of
long
crossings
and
then
also
like,
if
you're
reducing
some
of
the
lanes
like
people
fly
like
people
who
are
driving
like
fly
off
of
the
off
ramps-
and
I
just
don't
want
them
to
like
get
even
more
impatient
and
like
cut
me
off.
If
I'm
walking
or
biking
when
they're
trying
to
turn
right.
So.
D
So
the
south
curb
line
by
the
hennepin
county
service
center,
the
brt.
B
D
Is
already
constructed
it's
already
out
there,
it's
not
really
being
used
as
a
brt
station's
use
being
used
as
a
just
a
regular
bus
stop
right
now.
D
So
the
thought
is
we
keep
that
south
curb
line,
as
is
through
the
project
and
we're
just
pulling
everything
from
the
north
to
the
south,
so
we're
using
10
and
a
half
foot
lanes
on
all
the
through
and
turning
movements
here,
so
we've
gone,
narrowing
down
lanes
and
then
we're
also
removing
a
lane
there's
a
dedicated.
I
think
you
can
see
it.
You
kind
of
see
this
left
this
right
turn
line.
Building
right
there,
we're
removing
that
and
so
from
hiawatha
to
its
22nd
is
we're
looking.
F
D
D
E
No,
I
I
think
you
yeah
sum
that
up
pretty
good
we've
been
going
through.
A
number
of
iterations
of
you
know,
trying
to
get
the
radiuses
tighter.
So
that's
kind
of
an
ongoing
thing,
and
I
think,
looking
at
the
truck
aprons
has
helped
us
also
reduce
some
of
the
radiuses,
which
is
probably
a
more
preferred
thing
not
to
have
the
have
to
use
the
truck
apron
and
just
have
a
good,
tight
radius
anyways.
So.
J
Sorry,
I
I
really
like
the
presentation
here:
it's
going
in
the
right
direction,
it'd
be
great
to
see
this
at
15
percent.
If
that's
your
plans-
and
it
looks
really-
I
remember
that
the
last
improvement
here-
the
bridge-
I
remember-
going
below
the
old
ones,
so
this
again
is
a
great
improvement.
Thank
you.
D
Yeah
the
plan
would
be
to
come
back
if
you
have
15
whatever
a
layout
with
a
more
detailed
layout.
I
would
say-
that's
probably
in
the
april
time
frame,
so
probably
not
in
march
but
april,
so
we'll
we'll
keep
working
with
kelsey
to
get
that
scheduled
and
I'd
see
aaron,
probably
leaving
that
one
it'll
be
more
of
a
detailed
layout.
F
K
B
K
K
Certainly
this
big
huge
space
is
what
an
opportunity
under
the
bridge-
and
I
you
know
it's
not
like
you
want
to
have-
you-
know-
sit
down
restaurants,
but
god
you've
got
so
much
space.
So
you
think
I
mean
what
comes
to
mind
is
sort
of
more
light.
Light
features,
art
plants,
you
know
the
midtown
greenway
has
a
bike
shop,
stop
which
I'm
sure
we've
all
used,
and
wouldn't
that
be.
K
Wouldn't
that
be
fun
because
you
know
sometimes
you
visit
other
businesses
after
seeing
my
friends
in
the
apartments
there
so,
but
you,
but
it's
not
like.
We
want
to
have
people
hanging
out
under
the
bridge,
but
it's
so
much
space
that
it
feels
sort
of
also
feels
like
a
great
opportunity
again
for
bikers
walkers
busters
to
do
something
and
enjoy
what
is
really
a
little
micro
community.
I
mean
it's
true
people
living
in
those
apartments.
K
A
Anybody
else
I'm
going
to
take
a
turn.
I'm
marty
grimes-
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
reaching
out
to
all
the
you
know
the
people
in
the
neighborhoods
that
live
there
like
it's,
not
just
one
group
you're
really
aggressively
trying
to
get
everybody's
opinion,
and
the
second
thing
I
was
going
to
tell
you,
I
think,
it'd
be
really
valuable.
A
Maybe
you
already
thought
about
this
is
if
you
could
get
an
artist
that
lives
in
that
community
to
come
up
with
whatever
image
it
would
have
so
much
more
power
or
a
group
of
people
that
got
together
and
painted
it
or
whatever
they.
You
know
you
decide
to
do
with
it.
That
gives
it
more
power
and
then
green
wise.
There
can't
be
any
green
stuff
down
there
right
like.
D
A
A
So
then
this
is
where
I'm
lost.
Do
we?
What
do
you
guys
need
from
us?
I
guess
dan
miller.
Can
you
help
me
out.
J
A
D
J
Yeah,
I
just
it's
not
so
much
a
question,
and
but
I
just
wanted
to
remind
the
rest
of
the
presentations
and
the
members
that
we've
got
four
more
and
if
we
divide
that
by
the
next
hour
and
a
half
we'll
have
to
limit
our
conversations
and
presentations
to
that
amount
of
time.
Thanks.
B
C
B
C
Reinforce
that
this
is
chris,
if
the
next
presentations
could
try
and
take
it
to
10
minutes
and
then
a
few
minutes
for
questioning
that'd
be
great.
A
M
M
There
are
a
few
of
us
here,
but
I'm
here
today
just
to
talk
about
our
2022
projects
that
are
coming
up
this
year
and
just
give
an
overview
of
the
program
for
those
who
may
not
be
familiar
where
to
anticipate
projects
this
year
and
then
kind
of
what
our
immediate
next
steps
are.
M
These
are
done
through
a
data-driven
approach
that
is
directly
informed
by
the
work
that
was
done
in
the
that
action
plan
in
2022
we
have
just
under
1.2
million
dollars
for
this
work.
The
goal
is
really
to
make
improvements
on
all
city-owned
high
injury
streets
over
the
next
few
years
of
which
there
are
24
of
them.
So
on
the
map,
on
the
right
hand,
side
you
can
see
here
anything
that
is
in
the
purple
color
and
the
darker
color.
M
Those
are
high
injury
streets
that
do
not
have
any
proposed
improvements
yet,
but
are
anticipated
for
the
future.
Anything
you
see
in
a
solid
blue
color
were
improvements
that
were
made
in
the
last
year
with
our
vision,
zero
program.
Anything
in
the
dashed
blue
color
is
what
is
coming
up
this
year.
There's
another
map
later.
That
is
more
clearly
outlined,
specifically
vision,
zero,
but
this
map
is
our
high
injury
street
map
and
then
anything
in
the
yellow,
color.
M
M
M
They
can
also
help
slow
vehicle
turns
at
an
intersection,
high
visibility.
Crosswalks.
These
there's
actually
a
study,
that's
being
done
in
conjunction
with
the?
U
of
m.
We
don't
have
the
results
yet,
but
over
the
last
year,
been
testing
out
high-vis
crosswalks
at
non-signalized
intersections
to
see
kind
of
what
that
yielding
rate
does
there.
M
That
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
tools
that
we've
used
in
various
locations:
slow,
turn
wedges
again
helping
slow
those
vehicle
turns
making
it
safer
for
people
that
are
crossing
the
roadway
delineator
medians.
These
are
both
to
help
kind
of
narrow
travel
lanes,
reduce
provide
kind
of
like
a
pet
refuge
median
in
the
center,
providing
just
in
safer
crossing
for
the
roadway,
hard
and
center
lines.
M
These
are
seen
as
on
the
bottom
left
here.
These
are
to
help
slow,
left
turning
vehicles,
reducing
conflicts
that
arise
between
people
walking
and
biking
there
various
locations.
We
will
do
bike
conflict
zone
striping,
the
green
striping
that
you
see
in
select
locations.
We
look
to
rapid
flashing
beacons,
which
are
the
overhead
signals.
M
These
are
generally
at
on
signalized,
intersections
mid-block
crossings
and
then
the
the
last
piece
of
this
is
retro,
reflective
backplates,
which
essentially
just
make
it
easier
to
see
the
the
signals
at
night
specifically.
M
However,
given
the
existing
kind
of
material
shortages
with
the
supply
chain,
we
were
unable
to
get
the
the
necessary
materials
by
the
end
of
last
year
to
install
them
so
those
projects,
the
top
four
listed
here-
dowling
monroe,
36
and
42nd.
Those
will
be
going
in
spring
of
this
year.
M
So
those
are
all
anticipated
projects
for
this
year.
These
will
likely
be
happening
summer
or
fall
implementation,
and
again,
these
types
of
improvements
would
be
kind
of
pulling
from
that
toolbox
from
what
we
in
the
last
slide
in
terms
of
timeline.
Just
some
history
of
kind
of
when
this
program
came
to
be
the
visions
air
action
plan
identified
the
high
injury
streets
in
2018..
M
M
There
was
a
ton
of
engagement
that
was
done
as
part
of
the
visitor
action
plan,
and
since
this
is
a
very
data
driven
approach,
our
work
is,
or
our
engagement
process
is
more
of
a
informing
people
of
the
improvements
that
are
coming.
I
will
note
that
we
do
have
an
interactive
map
setup
where
people
can
provide
feedback
on
high
injury
streets
of
any
traffic
safety,
concerns
or
comments
that
people
want
to
leave,
and
I
can
send
the
link
to
you
all
or
have
chris
send
it
out
as
well.
M
But
in
terms
of
the
timeline
we're
starting
that
engagement
process,
we
will
be
implementing
the
postponed
2021
projects
as
soon
as
possible,
this
spring
from
2022
and
then
the
2022
projects
to
follow
in
summer
of
this
year
and
then
moving
on
to
future
years.
Again.
Our
goal
is
to
make
safety
improvements
on
all
of
our
city-owned
high
injury
streets
as
quickly
as
possible.
M
A
lot
of
this
is
repetitive
again:
we
are
developing
those
concept
designs
and
beginning
that
engagement.
We
are
continuing
to
do
coordination
with
intersecting
and
overlapping
different
capital
projects
and
partners,
some
of
these
roadways
intersect
with
county
streets
or
mndot
right
away,
so
coordinating
with
them
where
needed,
and
yes
installation
this
spring
and
summer.
A
There
anyone
any
questions,
aaron.
L
Yeah
this,
this
all
looks
really
really
exciting,
so
many
changes.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
had
one
question.
Looking
at
the
42nd
street
plan,
it
looks
like
a
lot
of
great
improvements
from
nikola
east.
I
had
one
suggestion
because
I
personally
experienced
it
by
bike
or
on
foot.
L
Pretty
frequently
is
at
the
intersection,
and
I'm
sure
you
all
have
probably
heard
about
some
issues
with
this,
but
42nd
street
and
wentworth
avenue
has
a
a
stop
sign
for
folks
going
east
west
on
42nd,
but
it's
no
stop
sign
for
people
going
north
south
on
wentworth
and
it
because
of
the
fact
that
42nd
kind
of
is
a
de
facto
like
commuter
route
kind
of
cross
city
route.
L
People
tend
to
not
stop
at
that,
stop
sign
at
42nd
and
wentworth,
and
it's
kind
of
a
known
issue.
You
see
it
show
up
on
next
door
every
other
week
and
on
the
facebook
group
for
the
kingfield
neighborhood
every
other
week
talking
about
how
people
need
to
stop
blah
blah
blah,
but
I'm
curious,
if
maybe
for
pedestrian
safety,
at
least
at
that
intersection,
and
that
might
actually
help
people
stop
as
if
there
was
if
there
were
to
be
bump
outs
for
pedestrians
crossing
42nd.
L
I
don't
know
that
they're
needed
on
what
worth,
but
maybe
like
for
folks
crossing
north
or
south.
That
could
be
helpful.
M
M
Can
definitely
we
can
look
at
it
and
see
if
there
are
any
other
improvements
that
maybe
we
could
add
in
for
this
year?.
J
G
M
I
would
say:
there's
not
a
specific
time
frame
when
these
will
be
taken
down.
I
think
the
goal
is
really
putting
these
in
not
as
temporary
treatments
but
more
as
long-term
solutions
to
help
improve
safety
until
we're
able
to
get
out
there
with
kind
of
those
curb
improvements.
J
I
I
just
notice
a
number
of
these
places
that
go
up
with
these,
that,
with
the
bolar
treatment
they
get
beat
up
by
people
that
are
confused
by
them
and
whatever,
and
it
seems
to
take
an
inordinate
amount
of
time
to
get
replaced.
J
You
know
it's
pretty
much
if
you
call
3-1-1
or
get
on
it.
So
that's
a
concern
as
we're
moving
forward
that
we
have
some
kind
of
eye
on
the
on
these
improvements.
So
they
you
know,
because
if
you
have
half
the
bollards
up,
it's
it's
not
as
effective
right
and
the
second
question
regarded
engagement
and
community
and
stakeholders
was
that
done
on
the
2021
projects.
M
Yep,
so
for
each
of
the
different
quarters
for
the
2021
projects
we
met
with
both
we
met
with
all
the
different
neighborhood
associations
that
those
corridors
go
through,
also
chatted
with
the
bacpac
on
that
work
and
the
council
members
as
well.
J
J
I
don't
recall
these:
I
appreciated
getting
the
drawings
up
for
the
layouts
up
and
those
never
came
before
the
bac,
and
I
think
it
would
have
been
helpful
if
they
had,
particularly
for
pedestrian
and
bicycle
improvements.
I,
like
the
layouts
that
you
have
I'll,
say
I'm
very
disappointed
with
monroe
in
that
both
the
access
to
across
the
to
the
logan
park
and
beneath
the
two
railroad
passes
didn't
seem
to
get
addressed
and
those
are
two
very
dangerous
sections.
Thank
you
done.
A
Okay,
I
see
a
hand,
but
I
cannot
see
who
it
is.
Is
there
any
more
questions.
N
Yeah,
this
is
adrian
bach.
I
might
had
a
question
yeah
just
a
general
question
about
how
to
read
these
drawings.
I
see
in
some
of
them
like,
for
example,
the
dowling.
N
M
It
might
be
dependent
on
the
actual
intersection
that
you're
looking
at.
I
will
say:
we've
are
continuing
to
learn
about
how
to
represent
these
accurately
and
be
more
clear
in
our
our
graphics
here.
So
apologies,
if
that's
not
clear,
is
there
a
specific
intersection
you're
wondering
about.
M
Christian,
do
you
know
off
the
top
of
your
head?
I
know
this
is
one
that
you
were
working
on.
Generally
speaking,
the
bump
outs
along
with
dowling
whether
or
not
they
go
into
dowling
on
the
side
streets,
both.
O
Yeah
thanks
for
the
the
question
adrian,
so
I
managed
the
the
corridor
for
for
dialing
for
20
20
21,
without
seeing
the
the
drying
up
in
front
of
me,
I
can't
recall,
but
darling
is
a
little
unique
in
which
we
have
bike
lanes
that
alternate
on
and
off
of
the
curb.
So
we
also
have
some
bus
stops
so
at
certain
locations
we
are
able
to
do
a
bump
out
that
wraps
the
whole.
J
O
So
that
would
mean
like
dowling
and
then
the
side
street
other
times
we're
able
to
just
do
a
bump
out,
maybe
either
just
on
the
side
street
rather
than
on
dolling
and
oftentimes.
When
that's
occurring.
That's
typically
because
there's
there's
a
bus
stop
there
or
the
bike
lane
is
adjacent
to
the
curb
which
wouldn't
allow
us
to
to.
You
know,
extend
that
that
bump
out
around
the
corner-
and
I
think
that
might
be
what
you're
seeing
at
those
locations
that
you
mentioned.
P
Yes,
jesse
thornson
one
question
I
had.
I
didn't
necessarily
see
anything
about
signal
phasing
within
any
of
the
vision,
zero
improvements-
and
I
don't
know
if
those
that's
not
just
because
they're
not
like
hard
infrastructural
items,
but
I
know
that
there's
different
things
you
can
do
with
signal
phasing
like
leading
pedestrian
intervals
or
legging
protected
lefts
that
can
help
improve
pen
bike
safety.
So
I
don't
know
if
you'd
be
able
to
answer
that,
but
you
know
is.
Would
you
all
be
looking
at
signal?
M
Yeah
so
we've
been
having
kind
of
a
bigger
conversation
around
lpi,
the
leading
pedestrian
interval
and
implementing
those
along
these
corridors,
as
well
as
other
corridors
across
the
city.
So
that's
a
bigger
conversation
that
is
happening,
but
I
believe
has
yet
to
actually
be
implemented
along
these
corridors.
P
I,
like
the
the
traffic
signal,
phasing
the
red
lights
green
lights
and
then,
when
you
get
like
the
the
walk
signal,
don't
walk
signal
and
that
type
of
thing.
Okay,
thank.
A
M
This
is
really
just
to
provide
an
overview
of
what's
to
come.
We
will
likely
be
back
with
one
or
more
of
the
corridors
to
pre
since
there's
a
bit
more
kind
of
potential
striping
changes
with
those.
So
really,
this
is
just
to
write
an
update
to
you
all
and
if
people
have
any
questions
or
specific
comments
about
any
of
the
corridors,
just
feel
free
to
reach
out
and
happy
to
have
a
conversation
about
it.
A
Great
phil,
phillip
is
our
last
one.
If
you
can
grab
that
question.
K
Quick
sure,
just
quick
question:
is
there
an
annual
vision,
zero
report
that
reports
on?
We
hope
we
assume
decreased
injuries
after
these
interventions
are
made.
M
I
believe
there
is
an
annual
report
provision
zero.
I
am
not
you're,
not
100
specific
to
like
the
vision,
zero
capital
projects.
I
think
it's
more
big
picture
like
how
we're
doing
the
division
zero
action
plan.
I
can
talk
with
our
staff
member.
That
would
lead
that
and
provide
a
response
back
to
the
have
chris
email
back
out
to
the
all
of
you,
members
in
the
bac.
K
Yeah,
it
seems
like
every
every
year
that
new
new
projects
are
proposing.
It
would
be
super
useful
to
look
back
a
year
or
two
and
report
on
how
those
improvements
have
done
and
give
us
a
sense.
I
think,
also
intersection
by
intersection
which
specific
intervent
intervention,
our
most
physical
interventions,
are
most
effective.
K
M
You
definitely
thanks
for
that.
The
last
thing
I
know
we're
short
on
time.
I
just
want
to
say,
if
you're
interested
in
using
the
interactive
map,
it
is
linked
on
the
project
web
page
and
just
allows
you
to
come
on
here
and
you
can
see.
M
Other
comments
are
my
computers
being
a
bit
slow
here.
You
can
see
other
comments
that
people
have
made
and
click
right
here
on
the
map
on
any
of
the
high
injury
streets
to
add
a
comment,
and
so
we
will
use
this
mostly
data-driven
approach,
but
we
do
we'll
be
looking
to
this
as
we
plan
out
the
corridors.
A
Q
Q
Q
I
am
the
transportation
planner
leading
the
reconstruction
of
first
avenue,
south
I'll
zoom
out
a
little
bit,
so
we
can
see
the
full
even
more
the
full
extents
of
this
project,
so
first
avenue
south
here
on
the
south
end,
this
is
lake
street,
so
lake
street
kmart
is
here
in
the
north
west
corner
of
lake
and
first
avenue
south.
This
is
the
midtown
greenway
right
here
and
then
this
is
franklin
avenue
in
the
middle
and
the
extent
of
the
project
ends
at
grant
street
in
downtown
by
the
convention
center.
Q
Here
we're
looking
at
one
long
corridor.
This
is
about
a
mile
and
a
half
long,
and
this
is
being
broken
up
into
two
construction
years.
So
the
green
segment
from
lake
street
to
franklin
avenue
is
set
to
be
reconstructed
in
2024,
and
the
blue
segment
from
franklin
avenue
to
grant
street
is
set
to
be
reconstructed
in
2025..
Q
Obviously,
some
major
projects
happening
along
this
court
over
the
next
few
years
that
we
want
to
be
aware
of
the
kmart
project.
Here
the
reconnection
of
nicolet
from
north
to
south
is
going
to
be
a
big
conversation.
Q
We
are
also
including
the
reconstruction
of
the
first
avenue
south
midtown
greenway
bridge
in
our
project
for
reconstructing
the
street
as
well.
Oftentimes
bridges
are
standalone
projects
from
the
roads
itself,
but
in
this
case
we
have
bundled
them
together,
so
the
entire
bridge
will
be
reconstructed
here.
Q
Also,
I
want
to
point
out
franklin
avenue:
the
county
owns
this
segment
of
franklin
and
the
county
will
be
reconstructing
franklin
through
here
in
2025.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
big
coordination
effort
between
the
city
and
the
county.
In
an
interesting
coincidence,
one
of
the
consultants
on
our
first
avenue
south
project
is
also
one
of
the
consultants
on
the
prankly
of
the
project.
So
it's
going
to
be
good
coordination
there.
Q
Q
What's
interesting
about
this
project
is
that
for
those
of
you
who
are
aware
a
few
years
ago,
we
recon
we
put
sorry
a
few
years
ago.
We
did
a
study
called
the
woodyard
lindell
bikeway
project,
and
it
was
implemented
last
year
in
2021
and
for
first
avenue
south
that
meant
paint
and
ballard
treatments
to
act
as
an
interim
condition
until
we
could
bridge
over
to
the
full
reconstruction
in
2024
and
2025..
Q
Q
But
for
the
most
part,
what
we
did
last
year
in
2021
was
put
in
a
two-way
protected
bikeway
with
peyton
ballard
on
the
west
side
of
the
street,
and
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
through
the
reconstruction
of
this
road
is
to
make
that
permanent,
we're
going
to
put
the
two-way
bicycle
facility
behind
the
curb
on
the
west
side
of
the
street
and
and
make
it
official
and
more
permanent
and
more
safe
than
just
a
paint
and
baller
treatment.
Q
So
the
one
pager
that
chris
included
shows
the
different
segments
of
the
corridor.
You
know
not
all
first
avenue
looks
a
little
different
depending
on
where
you
are
on
the
corridor,
but
for
the
most
part,
what
we've
done
is
put
the
two-way
bike
facility
on
the
west
side
of
the
street.
Q
So
we
have
some
old
information
here
from
2020
2017,
which
is
well
before
the
bikeway
went
in,
but
pretty
high
pedestrian
and
bicycle
users
on
this
corridor
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
speeding
going
on
too
one
of
the
other
changes
that
was
made
last
year
and
the
temporary
condition
was
to
change
the
car
travel
to
one
way,
one
lane
northbound
and
we're
going
to
be
keeping
that
also
through
the
design.
So
it's
a
pretty
big
change
for
car
travel
in
the
area
too.
H
Q
Are
kicking
off
engagement
right
now?
The
timing
of
this
meeting
I
wanted
to
come
sooner
rather
than
in
march,
so
I'll
have
chris
send
out
the
information
when
we
have
it
we're
targeting
a
virtual
open
house,
probably
the
week
of
february,
28th
or
maybe
march
1st
or
march
3rd.
Q
I
think
on
the
dates
that
we're
looking
at
and
so
we'll
be
doing
an
online
open
house,
but
we're
also
going
to
be
deploying
sort
of
a
virtual
walking
tour
where
folks
we
recommend
who
are
in
the
neighborhood
will
see
a
sign,
use
a
qr
code
or
go
to
a
url
and
fill
out
a
brief
survey
about
the
intersection
and
what
people
want
to
see
on
the
corridor,
and
so
we
don't
have
that
link
for
you
today
again.
Q
I
wanted
to
get
to
you
sooner
and
have
you
thinking
about
this
project
sooner,
but
this
is
a
resource
that
we'll
be
sending
out
through
chris
and
those
and
once
we've
got
the
date
of
the
virtual
open
house,
and
once
we
have
the
link
to
the
resources
for
you
to
share
your
opinions
on
this
project.
So
that's
my
very
short
field
like
to
spend
more
time
answering
questions
about
this
potential
reconstruct.
If
folks
have
them
I'll
scroll
back
up
to
the
map.
A
Thank
you
very
much
questions
comments.
A
L
Hey
yeah
thanks
katie
for
this.
This
is
a
exciting
project
as
a
regular
user
of
the
whittier
window.
Like
way
as
it
stands
now,
this
will
be
a
huge
improvement.
I
have
some
a
couple
questions.
One
is
about
the
you
said.
I
think
you
may
have
answered
this
already.
Just
in
your
presentation
behind
the
curb
line
you
were
saying,
the
bike
way
would
be:
does
that
mean
it'd
be
at
sidewalk
level?
Yep?
L
Okay,
that's
what
I
figured
the
other
one
I
had
is,
as
this
is
farther
north,
obviously
than
I
live,
and
where
I
would
get
onto
the
woody
orlinda
bikeway.
But
I'm
curious
if,
as
part
of
this
reconstruction,
the
the
northbound
bike
lane
on
first
avenue
could
become
protected.
Also.
Q
Yes,
we
are
talking
about
putting
the
one-way
northbound
bike
facility,
that
is,
on
the
east
side
of
the
street,
between
lake
and
28th,
we're
talking
about
putting
that
outside
lock
height
as
well.
Yes,.
R
Yeah,
I'm
looking
at
the
existing
conditions
and
I'm
thinking
about
the
area.
Just
north
of
franklin
and
current
condition
has
parking
on
both
sides
with
one
car
lane.
Is
that
right.
R
Q
I
think
that
that's
up,
we
haven't
settled
that
yet
we're
going
to
see
what
the
designs
look
like.
I
think
another
recurring
theme
that
folks
say
in
their
presentations
to
this
group
and
other
groups
is
a
requirement
for
green
stormwater
infrastructure,
and
so
we
can
have
less
space
dedicated
to
concrete
and
asphalt
now
than
we
used
to
be
able
to
have
on
our
projects,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
how
much
parking
will
remain.
It's
too
soon
to
tell
on
that
segment.
R
Q
Yeah,
it's
a
little
narrow
there.
I
agree
it's
definitely.
I
love
those
little
department
buildings.
It
definitely
reflects
the
older
character
when
we
had
different
street
uses
users
and
it
feels
tighter
now
with
the
parking
on
both
sides
and
one
lane
of
travel.
I'm
not
sure
what
that's
going
to
look
like.
Yet,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
have
a
preference.
R
I
don't
know
I
mean
reducing
the
parking
would
make
it
feel
less
narrow
for
driving.
But
I'm
not
sure
that's
a
good
thing
and
I
don't
know
whether
people
who
park
there
would
do.
K
Thank
you
marty.
How
could
how
can
I
not
ask
the
question
about
parking,
so
I
noticed
this
80
plus
parking
utilization
rate.
I
I
can't
remember
there
are
no.
I
don't
think
there
are.
Any
meters
did.
Have
you
looked
at
meters
along
the
route
and
have
you
looked
at
yeah
availability
of
parking
on
side,
streets
and
number
of
spaces
that
might
be
eliminated.
Q
Yeah
the
there
was
a
parking
study
done
before
the
temporary
condition
went
in
so
it
was
a
couple
of
years
ago
now
and
we
aren't
planning
on
doing
another
one
because
conditions
haven't
changed
too
much.
I
don't
think
I'm
not
sure
what
triggers
the
threshold
for
a
meter
conversation.
Q
I
did
have
a
conversation
with
our
on
street
parking
manager
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
and
this
is
not
a
critical
parking
area
and
it's
not
I
mean
I
think
folks
know
that
people
use
the
parking
here,
but
it's
not
otherwise
targeted
as
an
area
of
concern,
but
we
know
the
parking
gets
used.
K
Q
Well,
after
the
snow
is
gone,
hopefully
before
june
I'll,
be
here
again
before
june,
to
show
some
concepts
what's
really
nice
about.
This
is
because
there
was
this
temporary
condition
that
went
in
and
because
the
bc
at
the
time
we
can
actually
sort
of
accelerate
this
first
planning
phase
and
get
a
concept
out
for
public
comment
and
review
faster,
because
we
know
so
many
things
like
we
know
the
bike
was
going
to
be
on
the
west
side
of
the
street.
We
know
it's
going
to
be
two
ways,
and
so
what
is
it
february?
B
Q
With
to
get
actions
on
our
first
pass,.
A
A
Okay,
let's
move
on
I'm
loving
these
presentations.
We
are
at
the
26th
avenue
north
to
olson.
Park
trail
is
tyler
here.
S
A
S
Thank
you
sorry
about
that.
So
yes,
we're
here
to
talk
about
26th
avenue
near
the
overlook
and
the
connection
to
ollie
olsen
park
and
west
river
parkway.
S
S
S
So
we
went
through
introductions
we'll
go
through
a
little
bit
of
background
and
goals.
The
project
scope,
some
site
photos,
it's
a
pretty
pretty
unique
spot
in
the
city
right
now
and
then
talk
a
little
bit
about
real
estate
considerations.
There's
a
couple
properties
that
we
need
to
kind
of
figure
out
before
we
can
actually
start
building
something,
and
then
we
have
a
little
bit
of
info
on
the
planning
and
design
considerations.
S
Looking
at
connections
and
trail
experiences
also
some
floodplain
and
riverbank
modifications,
and
then
we've
got
just
a
real,
simple
concept:
alignment
image
that
we'll
go
and
look
at
so
the
spot
that
we're
looking
at
here
is
over
in
north
minneapolis
and
it
is
kind
of
at
the
terminus.
What
is
at
the
terminus,
that
of
26th
avenue
bikeway
and
that's
the
east-west
segment?
S
Oh
shoot!
Sorry,
that's
the
east-west
street
here
in
in
pink
and
then
we
have
the
trail
along
west
river
road
along
the
river
and
then
there's
about
a
thousand
foot
trail
gap
here,
and
we
want
to
fill
that
the
project
builds
from
the
above.
The
falls
master
plan,
so
it
is
in
there
that's
what
enabled
us
to
seek
out
the
funding.
We've
got
about
three
million
dollars
lined
up
for
the
project.
S
We
want
to
expand
the
regional
trail
system
along
the
river.
We
want
to
connect
to
new
neighborhoods
that
we
are
not
really
connected
to
very
well
right
now
and
you
know,
expand
recreation.
You
know,
north
minneapolis
does
have
a
riverfront,
it's
it's
kind
of
disconnected
now
and
we
want
to
reconnect
it.
S
S
The
scope
of
the
project
right
now
we're
really
just
talking
to
people
we're
doing
public
engagement,
partner,
outreach
and
then
soon
we'll
be
kind
of
jumping
more
into
concept.
Development
refinement.
S
S
And
so
once
that,
once
that
information
is
really
coalesced,
we
start
to
actually
prepare
the
construction
documents
later
this
year
and
construction
will
begin
that
might
that
might
need
to
say
2023.,
not
2024..
I
think
we
want
to
end
by
june
of
2024..
S
So
here's
here's
a
few
photos,
so
we've
got
all
the
olsen
park
on
this
map.
North
is
to
the
to
the
right.
S
We
have
the
terminus
of
western
parkway
and
the
railroad
bridge,
and
then
this
image
is
just
number
one
here,
looking
sort
of
north
along
the
along
the
river,
it's
a
really
beautiful
spot
and
there's
also,
you
know
beauties
in
the
eye
of
the
beholder
here,
but
I
you
know,
I
think
most
of
us
would
agree
that
there's
some
beauty
in
some
of
the
steel
structures
and
and
some
of
the
the
structures
of
the
bridge
itself-
and
this
is
just
an
image
of
one
of
the
the
kind
of
pass-throughs
underneath
the
railroad
bridge.
S
This
is
kind
of
the
landscape.
That's
down
there
right!
Now!
It's
it's!
You
can
walk
through
there,
there's
really
kind
of
nice
spaces
down
there.
There's
a
flat
area
on
the
south
side
of
the
bridge,
which
we
want
to
kind
of
utilize
a
little
bit
and
create
an
amenity
of
rather
than
just
pass
through
the
space.
S
Here's
us
hanging
out
underneath
the
bridge
just
looking
at
the
structure
of
it,
the
the
peers
holding
the
bridge
up
and
just
kind
of
the
general
nature
of
kind
of
how
it
feels
down
there
and
it's
it's
a
pretty
cool
experience
and
then
looking
north
from
the
bridge
is
probably
our
our
hardest
spot
to
get
through,
there's,
there's
pretty
much
river
and
then
bluff
and
then
the
bluff
top.
You
can
see
kind
of
from
the
topography
here
on
the
on
the
aerial
photo.
S
It
is
a
very
steep
bluff
down
to
the
river.
So
there's
there's
some
engineering
that
we
need
to
figure
out
so
the
real
estate
considerations.
We
need
to
work
with
bnsf
to
get
a
license
to
go
under
that
bridge.
We
can't
just
kind
of
sneak
it
under
without
telling
them
we
gotta,
we
gotta
get
a
license
for
it.
S
So
we're
working
on
that
we've
had
a
couple
conversations
with
them
already
and
then
there's
private
property
between
between
the
bridge
and
and
not
26th
avenue
overlook
on
the
aerial
photo
there's.
This
is
all
continental
cement,
so
we'll
be
working
with
them
to
actually
create
an
easement
or
acquire
that
that
property
to
move
through
it.
S
So,
with
with
the
planning
and
design,
there's
several
considerations
that
we
just
need
to
take
taking
the
into
consideration
greg,
would
you
mind
running
through
these
real,
quick
and
then
jump
over
to
the
next
slide,
which
will
be
the
the
diagram.
H
Sure
so
we
really
want
to
look
at
the
trail.
Design
is
not
just
the
trail
but
kind
of
the
experience
it.
It
does
go
through
a
lot
of
interesting
topography
and
places
the
bridge
itself
underneath
and
coming
back
up,
and
it
makes
that
real
critical
connection
for
the
north
side,
26th
avenue
trail.
So
to
the
extent
we
can
incorporate
it
into
the
project,
things
like
fishing
connecting
to
the
river
walking
to
the
river
touching
the
water,
this
kind
of
the
natural
fuel
that
you
get
along
the
mississippi
throughout
the
city.
H
This
area
is
really
no
different,
we're
looking
at
maybe
incorporating
a
launch
for
kayaks
or
canoes
at
some
some
location
here
in
the
within
kind
of
the
footprint
of
the
project.
So
those
are
all
things
that
are
going
to
be
our
in
our
consciousness.
As
we
look
at
the
alignments
of
of
trails
and
and
maybe
vistas
as
you're
moving
along
the
trail
from
north
to
south
or
south
to
north
et
cetera.
We
also
want
this
to
appear
as
really
a
seamless
or
function,
I
should
say
as
a
seamless
extension
of
the
trail.
H
You
know
the
city,
of
course,
as
this
group
knows,
has
a
fantastic
river
front
trail
system,
it's
continuous
for
miles
and
miles.
So
we
want
this
extension
of
a
thousand
feet
to
really
be
continuous
from.
What's
exists
to
the
south,
and
in
addition
to
that
we
know
it's
going
to
continue
north
of
26th
and
tie
into
upper
harbor
and
basically
go
to
the
city
limits
and
beyond.
H
So
we
want
the
design
to
kind
of
emulate
that
and
not
just
be
kind
of
getting
from
a
to
b,
because
that
happens
to
be
where
we're
at
today.
Obviously,
we
want
to
look
at
slopes
to
be
accessible
and
and
envision
that
we
can.
H
We
can
achieve
that
less
than
five
percent
profile,
so
that's
certainly
a
big
goal
and
to
the
extent
we
can
have
a
separate
bike
and
ped
trail
we'll
be
exploring
that
and
and
we're
kind
of
cautiously
optimistic-
that
a
lot
of
this
could
could
be
separate
very
much
like
the
system
to
the
south
through
the
city.
So
again,
we
want
this
to
appear
or
to
function
much
like
the
rest
of
the
riverfront
riverfront
trail
system.
H
So
the
areas
that
we
do
disturb
we'll
restore
we'll
kind
of
look
at
that
landscape.
That's
out
there
and
create
a
new
or
embellished
landscape,
that's
respectful
of
the
riverfront
and
the
natural
ecology
of
the
of
the
river
bluff.
H
So
the
next
slide
kind
of
just
shows
a
little
bit
of
a
plan
view
of
of
what
we're
you
know,
kind
of
where
we're
at
and
what
we're
envisioning.
So
the
the
orange
trail,
if
you
will
around
ole
olsen
park,
is,
is
essentially
the
existing
loop
trail.
That's
also
the
terminus
of
the
existing
trail
systems.
It's
the
terminus
of
the
parkway
as
well
as
a
trail
today,
so
the
blue
dash
represents
the
existing
bike
trail
to
the
south.
H
H
Things
get
tight,
we're
just
in
the
beginning
phases,
so
we
haven't,
you
know
determined
if
we
can
keep
those
separate
or
if
they
need
to
be
merged
up
once
we
get
under
the
bridge
and
things
stay
relatively
tight
through
the
continental
cement
parcel
there.
When
we
tie
into
the
26th
avenue
bikeway
system
and
and
the
new
overlook
that
was
just
open
last
summer,.
H
Looking
at-
and
this
exhibit
shows
the
bike
trail
and
the
walking
trail
going
into
the
western
port
or
going
under
rather
the
western
portal
of
the
bridge,
there's
essentially
two
portals
that
are
options
and
tyler
had
walked
through
some
of
the
images.
The
eastern
portal
is
more
riverward.
H
It's
it's
a
little
bit
lower
in
topography,
but
it
has
some
of
the
issues
with
that
would
be
a
trail
at
that
grade
would
be
flooded.
You
know
when
high
water
comes
and
or
we
would
build
a
structure
and
need
a
structure,
and
that
has
some
ramifications
with
it
relative
to
cost
and
working
with
the
railroad
etc.
H
So
we'll
be
looking
at
that,
but
we
we're
thinking
if
we
can
go
in
the
western
portal
as
as
we're
showing
here,
we
might
be
able
to
limit
any
structure,
needs
and
reduce
any
filling
in
the
floodplain,
and
but
it's
it's
there's
just
some
things
that
are
in
our
our
consciousness.
Here
as
we
get
started,
and
I
think
bill
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
our
thoughts
relative
to
public
engagement,
outreach
in
the
early
phases
of
the
project.
T
Sorry
about
that,
we
are
interested
in
getting
out
and
talking
to
the
public
directly
and
importantly
to
the
neighborhood
organizations.
Hawthorne
and
you'll
recall
it
was
hawthorne
and
jordan
that
were
the
who
were
the
main
drivers
behind
the
development
of
the
26th
avenue
bikeway,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
getting
input
from
them.
T
If
you're
familiar
with
the
organization,
you
know
that
it
includes
well
the
neighborhood
organizations
in
north
minneapolis,
as
well
as
businesses
along
broadway
and
the
businesses
that
are
adjacent
to
the
river.
So
we
think
this
is
a
good
way
to
to
get
input
from
those
businesses
that
might
be
impacted.
T
We're
also
looking
at
the
major
taylor
bicycling
club.
As
you
know,
that's
an
african-american,
predominantly
african-american,
bicycle
club
in
the
twin
cities,
great
northern
greenway
coalition-
and
we
really
wanted
to
find
out
from
you
today.
If
there
are
other
organizations
who
you
feel
we
ought
to
be
talking
to.
You
can
make
those
kinds
of
suggestions
to
us.
T
We've
got
a
kickoff
meeting
coming
up
and
I
think
tyler
will
be
talking
about
that
in
the
next
slide.
So
before
we
end
today,
I'd
like
to
just
get
some
input
from
you
to
get
some
ideas
as
to
who
else
we
ought
to
be
talking
to
for
our
public
engagement.
I
S
Yeah,
so
thank
you,
greg
and
bill
appreciate
that
so
the
last
slide
here
just
some
next
steps.
We've
made
some
initial
contact
at
those
neighborhoods
a
few
months
ago.
S
Park
board
staff
myself
and
a
few
other
folks,
just
briefly
met
with
them
during
their
regular
meetings
and
said
hello
and
introduce
them
to
the
projects.
So
now
we're
kind
of
getting
more
deeper
into
the
public
engagement,
we're
talking
to
the
bac
in
the
pac
and
then
we're
holding
our
virtual,
our
our
first
virtual
public
meeting
on
february
24th
information
on
that
will
go
out
this
friday
and
then
we
start
to
develop
the
design
and
then
review
that
design.
S
Those
concept,
alternatives
with
the
public
and
partners
and
you
all
and
then
we
take
that
refine
it
again
and
bring
it
to
the
board
of
commissioners
for
concept.
Approval
and
beyond
that
is,
is
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
design
work.
So
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at.
J
Okay
marty
had
to
leave,
and
so
I'm
taking
over
for
trying
to
arrest
the
meeting.
So
thank
you
there's
a
great
presentation.
Are
there
any
questions,
comments.
L
Sure
yeah,
I
don't
have
any.
I
guess
I
don't
have
anything
groundbreaking,
but
I'm
just
really
excited
to
see
this
trail
gap
being
filled.
I've
dead
ended
at
that
park
so
many
times
or
even
before
that,
and
so
the
ability
to
actually
connect
to
something
else,
but
also
to
bring
like
I've
been
kind
of
studying
the
26th
avenue
bikeway
map.
Since
I
don't
live
in
north
minneapolis,
I'm
in
south
minneapolis,
so
I'm
not.
L
I
haven't
used
26th
avenue
bikeway,
but
just
looking
at
it
and
thinking
of
how
like
not
only
does
the
does
that
bike
way.
Connect
then
to
this
overlook
in
the
park
structure.
There
it'll
also
give
people
in
along
26
there
who
might
use
that
the
ability
to
get
downtown
in
a
safe,
comfortable
and
scenic
way,
and
so
for
that
I'm
really
excited.
So
thank
you
all
and
everyone
else
involved.
S
Yeah,
I
think
thank
you
for
that
comment.
Aaron,
you
know
it
you're
right,
you're,
right
on
this
is
this
is
a
huge
connection.
It's
one
of
the
only
east,
west
or
26th
avenue
is
the
only
east
west
off
street
bike
facility,
really
in
north
minneapolis.
Unless
you
go
all
the
way
up
to
shingle,
creek
or
weber,
or
all
the
way
down
to
cedar
ave
or
cedar
trail,
and
so
having
this
connection,
it
shoots
you
right
to
downtown
and
then
vice
versa.
You
go
downtown
to
to
north
minneapolis.
T
Yeah,
let
me
add
to
aaron
that
that
26th
avenue
bikeway
is
adjacent
to,
I
believe,
two
or
three
elementary
schools
and
being
able
then
to
have
access
to
the
overlook
and
the
ole
olsen
trail
could
even
be
like
a
an
enhanced
educational
experience
for
children
who
were
who
could
be
getting
interested
in
river
ecology,
etc.
So
this
really
does
have
a
a
lot
of
purposes
that
can
be
fulfilled.
L
J
K
Yeah
thanks
dan
well
bill.
I'm
just
responding
to
your
comment
about
like
like
who
else
you
who
other
stakeholders
and
though
I
know
it's
incredibly
difficult
to
work
with
railroads.
You
know
I've
had
some
good
experience
with
the
sioux
line,
and
so
I
was
thinking
of
being
this
f,
the
railroad
as
as
being
invited
to
be
a
stakeholder
in
what
and
jumping
off
of
aaron's
comment.
What
will
be
this?
K
This
beautiful
connection
pause
point
to
reflect
on
both
sort
of
industrial,
archaeology
and
ecology,
and
you
know
sometimes
you
can
find
someone
in
the
railroad
bureaucracies
who
might
be
interested
in
money.
Sharing.
History,
archaeology
displays,
I
don't
know,
so
that's
sort
of
what
what
came
to
me.
I
mean
you've
got
this
major
river
crossing,
so
just
a
suggestion,
but
I
know
it
can
be
incredibly
hard
to
even
get
railroad
people
to
answer
the
phone,
but
it
does
happen
sometimes
so.
J
I'll
stick
my
hand
up
quickly.
You
know
this
is
a
great
project
and
I'm
really
excited
about
developing
that
lower
area
underneath
the
bridge
and
that
sort
of
lowland
area
has
access
to
something
off.
J
The
trail
like
you've
been
talking
about,
and
I
just
wanted
to
comment
to,
although
it's
out
of
the
scope
of
this
project,
it's
an
important
thing
for
the
bac
and
the
city
and
the
park
board
to
recognize
that
really
after
you
leave
fairview
park
and
head
to
the
river
you're,
going
through
a
very
industrial
area,
that's
very
unfriendly
and
and
quite
frankly,
unsafe
in
just
the
amount
of
traffic,
and
it
would
be
a
great
thing
to
push
both
the
city
and
the
park
board
to
think
about
that
stretch
between
actually
over
the
bridge
over
the
overpass
all
the
way
past
washington,
pash
second
and
past,
all
the
industry
that
gets
to
the
river
overlook
at
the
end.
J
You
know
the
boulevards
down.
There
have
not
been
maintained
very
well.
It
looks
like
a
natural
grass
structure,
but
it's
kind
of
just
weeds,
and
even
today
I
was
down
at
the
river
overlook
and
you
can't
access
it
because
of
the
snow
banks
and
it's
never
been
shuttled
back
there.
I
know
that's
not
your
your
thing
at
this
moment,
but
if
we're
going
to
make
this
open
for
the
public,
we've
got
to
kind
of
realize
that
that's
something
you
might
want
to
get
together,
rather
than
just
a
and
something
else.
J
The
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
over
in
ole
olsen
park
and
that
whole
stretch
of
west
river
road,
both
the
bike
and
the
what
called
the
bike
facility,
which
is
actually
a
multi-use
trail
and
the
pedestrian
facility,
are
used
inter
everybody
uses
both
of
them.
It
depends
if
you,
you
know,
runners
use
it
for
a
loop
people
that
feel
uncomfortable
being
down
by
the
river,
which
is
a
little
more
secluded
use
the
the
route
towards
the
road
and
bicyclists
that
want
to
see
the
river
go
down
the
pedestrian
trail.
J
So
it's
not.
I've
never
seen
it
being
a
problem,
but
we
just
need
to
realize
that
these
sort
of
these
vacated
areas
get
that
common
use.
And
lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
to
bill
something
that
I
have
tried
to
have
been
working
on
and
covet
really
put
a
blank
in
the
whole
deal
was
to
reach
out
to
the
faith
communities
along
26th.
J
In
that
you
know,
you've
got
a,
I
think,
there's
four
or
five
of
them,
and
they
do
have
some
kind
of
you
know
pastoral
get
together.
I
don't
know
how
active
they
are,
but
it
might
be
a
group
to
hook
up
to
as
well
as
I'm
not
sure,
what's
going
on
in
nelly
stewart
johnson
with
the
pandemic,
but
their
pt,
pto
or
you
know,
might
be
a
great
group
for
you
to
just
bounce
these
ideas
of
how
to
get
kids
down
to
the
river.
S
J
All
right
we've
got
one
more
project
upcoming
and
that
is
the
green,
richard
greene's
central,
safe
routes
to
school
at
zero
percent
with
christian
zimmerman
and
jazna
yasna
had
sick
stanek
from
public
works.
Thank
you.
O
Okay,
hi
everyone,
I'm
christian
zimmerman,
I'm
an
associate
transportation
planner
with
minneapolis
public
works,
I'm
also
joined
by
a
colleague,
yazna
hadjik,
stanik
who's
also
managing
this
project.
This
is
the
green
central,
safe
routes
to
school.
O
Zero
percent.
At
this
point
a
little
overview
for
for
this
evening,
some
project
introduction
existing
policies
and
plans,
our
existing
conditions,
the
green
central,
safe
routes
to
school
plan
that
was
developed
in
2021
and
then
just
our
next
steps
in
schedule.
O
O
The
overall
goal
of
safe
routes,
school
projects
such
as
this,
the
main
focus
here
is
to
make
it
easier
to
walk
and
bike
to
school.
With
that
you
know
to
meet
that
overall
goal,
we
also
need
to
improve
the
traffic
safety
for
people
walking
and
biking.
O
O
You
also
need
to
look
at
addressing
traffic
safety
at
documented,
high
injury
street
intersections
it's
going
to
include
park,
portland,
31st
and
lake
street
and,
lastly,
just
enhancing
the
comfort
and
the
predictability
for
all
of
our
different
users.
O
So
this
here
is,
is
a
map
just
kind
of
showing
the
project
area
you'll
see
that
green
central
elementary
is
down
here,
where
my
mouse
is
kind
of
in
this
lower
corner,
and
then
you'll
see
that
there's
two
colors
to
this
map.
There's
an
orange
and
a
blue.
O
O
So
through
this
process
we'll
be
engaging
with
the
community
and
using
our
internal,
you
know
tools
to
kind
of
figure
out.
What's
the
best
route
for
this
project,
whether
that's
10th
or
11th,
10th
avenue
would
utilize,
you
know,
10th
avenue.
Only
11th
would
utilize
a
you
know
a
route
through
potter,
powderhorn
park
and
then
transition
to
to
the
roadway.
Both
of
these
would
have
the
same
endpoint,
which
would
be
just
north
of
the
midtown
greenway
28th
street
bikeway
is
where
it
would
tie
in
there's
a
couple.
O
Other
project
characteristics
that
you'll
notice.
Here
you
know
where
this
project
would
overlap.
There's
you
know
the
existing
condition
of
the
midtown
greenway
there's
the
future
d-line
that's
being
constructed
right
now
on
chicago,
there's,
high
frequency
bus
route
on
fourth
and
there's
also
the
future
b-line
brt
for
lake
street.
So
a
lot
of
different
ways
in
which
this
project
would
interact
with
existing
and
future
transportation.
O
O
O
And
then
here
this
is
our
all
ages
and
abilities
network
introduced
with
our
transportation
action
plan.
So
much
newer,
the
star
indicates
the
school
location
and
then
this
brighter
kind
of
blue
line
that
you
see
so
that's
34th
and
then
you
can
see
the
10th
avenue
is
identified
in
the
all
ages
and
abilities
network
as
a
future.
Near-Term
low
stress,
bikeway.
O
So
our
reported
crashes,
the
the
top
chart
that
you
see
here.
This
is
11th
avenue.
That's
between
28th
and
powderhorn
park.
That's
going
to
be
outlined
here
in
the
the
purple
line,
so
we
have
relatively
low
recorded
crashes
from
pedestrians
and
bicyclists
one
pedestrian
and
three
bicyclists
over
a
10-year
time
frame
from
2011
to
2021.
O
The
percent
with
crash
injuries
is,
you
know,
pretty
high
with
a
hundred
percent
for
the
pedestrian
67
for
the
bicep
list.
We
do
have
74
motor
vehicle
crashes,
with
only
14
of
those
resulting
in
in
injuries
so
kind
of
seeing
you
know
our
most
vulnerable
road
users.
O
You
know
with
the
the
higher
percent
crashes
with
injuries
and
then
10th
avenue.
This
is
between
28th
and
34th
outlined
in
the
orange
line
a
little
bit
higher
here.
So
we
have
13
pedestrian
crashes,
resulting
still
in
a
pretty
high
rate
of
injury
at
92
percent,
a
little
bit
more
on
the
bicycle
route,
with
five
resulting
in
eighty
percent,
significantly
more
vehicle
crashes
at
112,
resulting
in
21
with
injuries
and
then
the
blue
line
that
runs
east
west
is
34th
street
that
runs
between
clinton
and
10th.
Avenue.
O
Clinton
kind
of
splits,
the
the
mid
block
of
green
central,
so
pedestrian,
wise,
there's
one
reported
crash
and
then
two
bicycle
crashes,
so
those
three
all
reported
injuries
and
then
motor
vehicles,
106
with
20
reporting,
injuries.
O
So
the
richard
green
park
elementary
safe
routes
to
school
plan.
It
is
a
vision
of
the
plan
that,
for
walking
and
biking
to
school
is
safe,
comfortable
and
fun
for
all
students.
The
plan
includes
a
variety
of
strategies
around
the
the
six
e's.
Those
are
equity,
engineering,
education,
encouragement,
engagement
and
evaluation.
O
Green
central
has
has
already
sorry
green
central
already
has
several
education
and
and
encouragement
activities
which
are
listed
here,
including
a
bike
train.
So
really
what
this
is
about
is
just
providing
that
safer
environment
for
them
in
order
to
apply.
So
I
will
note
when
yazna
and
I
were
in
person
and
had
done
a
site
visit
here-
there
had
a
program
at
the
school
and
they
were
teaching
kids
how
to
how
to
ride
bikes
so
very
active
at
the
school
here.
O
So
this
is
a
a
map
taken
out
of
green
central,
safe
routes
to
school
plan.
This
is
their
infrastructure
recommendations,
so
I'll
be
focusing
on
letters
a
through
through
g
here.
This
is
focusing
on
on
34.,
so
letter
a
is
just
access
across
35w.
O
O
This
is
an
area
in
which
they
would
like
to
have
improved
access
to
school,
for
students
who
live
north
of
the
campus
letter
c
is
essentially
talking
about
34th
street
and
10th
10th
avenue
together
they
are
recommending
to
formalize
and
enhance
the
low
stress
connection
to
school,
for
students
who
live
north
and
east
of
campus.
O
D
e,
f
and
g
are
very
similar
in
points.
They
are
talking
about
the
intersections
and
the
roadways
of
portland
avenue
and
then
also
park
avenue.
O
We
do
have
quite
a
bit
of
partner
agency
coordination
with
this
project,
we're
working
with
hennepin
county
and
we're
looking
at
park
and
portland
avenues
with
them,
the
midtown
greenway
and
then
the
park
board.
They
are
kicking
off
a
a
separate
project
for
part
powderhorn
park
improvements,
so
we're
working
with
them
and
then
also,
of
course,
the
minneapolis
schools.
O
So
you
know
working
with
them
on
on
their
safe
routes
to
school
plan
that
they
just
developed
and
released
a
few
months
ago
for
community
engagement,
we'll
be
working
on
that
kicking
that
off
here
in
the
spring
of
22.
that'll
run
through
at
least
this
summer
and
then
we'll
be
getting
into
our
concept
development
this
summer
through
really
the
end
of
2022
and
we'll
use
that
kind
of
be
developing.
O
O
So
we'll
use
that
to
develop
that
concept
and
then
in
in
23
2023.
The
project
will
be
with
our
our
city
engineers
just
to
try
out
those
those
detailed
plans,
so
they
can
be
ready
for
construction
in
2024.
So
we
are
two
years
out
from
construction,
but
we
are
on
a
fairly.
You
know,
quick
moving
timeline
as
we're
really
looking
to
get
to
that
30
concept:
development
by
the
end
of
2022.
O
And
that's
all
I
have
for
you
today.
There
is
a
project
website
that
is
active
and
you
can
check
out
we'll
be
adding
more
information
to
that
website,
as
this
project
evolves
and
continues.
O
D
L
Hey
yeah,
thank
you
and
thanks
christian.
L
O
Yeah,
so
we
haven't
gotten
into
the
design
details
of
exactly
you
know
what
these
facilities
are.
Gonna
look
like
this
is.
We
do
have
two
million
dollars
in
funding
as
a
federal
project,
so
you
know
we'll
be
using
that
funding
and
honestly,
we'll
probably
have
to
look
at
this,
maybe
on
like
a
block
by
block
or
kind
of
area
by
area
to
determine
what
the
appropriate
conditions
are
for
the
bikeway.
O
Some
sections
may
need
to
shift
to
to
you
know
that
curb
level
and
get
to
off
street,
while
other
sections
may
be
able
to
utilize.
Maybe
a
commerce
trader
section
where
maybe
it's
something?
That's
that's
on
street,
so
I
think
there's
there's
definitely
going
to
be
a
combination
of
different
treatments
that
we'll
have
to
use
no.
L
L
Yeah
and
one
one
other
quick
question
too:
well,
I've
got
you
I'm
looking
at
the
map
of
portland
and
park,
and
I'm
I'm
curious.
I
guess
if,
if
hennepin
county
might
be
willing
to
allow
some
pretty
there's
some
pretty
gigantic
bump
out
opportunities
that
would
help
shorten
that
crossing
distance
for
kids,
like
at
34th
street
you
could
like.
Theoretically,
you
could
bump
it
all
the
way
out
past
the
bikeway
and
just
make
it
so
that
the
only
car
crossings
are
those
two.
O
So
we're
definitely
in
conversations
with
the
county
they're
aware
of
the
project,
and
so
we're
definitely
partnering
with
them
to
look
at
what
are
the
different
improvements
we
can
make
at
those
intersections,
and
the
county
is
definitely
wanting
to.
O
You
know,
help
improve
those
and
you
know
in
whatever
way,
shape
or
form
that
that
will
come
through
through
kind
of
our
engagement
in
our
concept
design.
So
I
I
I
would
say
everything
is
kind
of
on
the
board
at
this
point,
for
what
those
design
aspects
could
be.
Okay,
cool.
Thank
you.
T
Yeah
christian
curious:
what
with
I
know,
you're
you're
working
with
schools
in
south
minneapolis,
but
what
are
you
finding
in
terms
of
getting
to
the
school
district
and
working
with
them?
I'm
just
wondering
if
it
we
might
like
follow
up
on
what
dan
suggested
and
try
to
do.
Some
outreach
were
the
schools
in
north
minneapolis
along
the
26th
avenue
bikeway.
T
O
Yeah,
so
we're
we're
fairly
early
on
in
this
project,
so
we
haven't
gotten
into
the
thick
of
our
engagement
yet,
but
we
have
been
in
coordination
with
the
principal
and
also
I
forget
what
her
her
title
is,
but
but
we've
been
in
engagement
with
kind
of
like
their
safe
routes
to
school
coordinator
at
the
school
for
green
central.
O
So
you
know,
we've
been
outreaching
with
them
and
I
think
we're
going
to
to
definitely
want
to
leverage
those
aspects
within
the
school
in
those
contexts
just
to
to
kind
of
reach
out
and
determine
what
a
good
engagement
plan
looks
like
around
that
community.
If
that
means
going
to
a
to
a
larger
group
within
the
mps
system,
you
know,
I
think
we're
certainly
open
to
that.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
exclude
anything
at
this
point.
J
I'll
put
my
hand
up
dan
miller,
so
this
is
exciting
and
I
always
I've
dealt
with
some
situations
in
northeast
where
the
2014
safe
routes
to
school
routes,
sort
of
differentiate
from
the
aaa
network
and
where
we
can.
J
We've
talked
about
this
intersection
and
basically
that
lake
street
connection
there
there's
a
dead
end
there,
but
I
really
see
some
advantages
of
being
able
to
hook
up
to
the
midtown
greenway
and
I
think
most
of
your
fatalities
or
the
the
the
traffic
stuff
probably
happened
at
that
intersection
there,
but
being
if,
if,
if
we
could
actually
have
a
real
bike
way
that
you
could
well
that's
protected
or
you
know.
J
J
And
we've
got
cadence.
I
Yeah,
so
I
am
excited
to
see
this
project.
I
I
live
in
the
attendance
boundary.
This
is
where
my
neighborhoods
go,
and
I
also
lived
on
the
other
side
of
34th
like
just
a
block
away
from
there.
So
I've
seen
the
infrastructure
change
just
there
for
the
bi-directional
segment
of
28th
street
bikeway
to
eventually
connect
and
having
used
10th
street
quite
a
bit.
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
property
owner
stakeholders
there
that
you'll
you'll
need
to
directly
engage
with
the
section,
the
the
east
side
of
the
block.
I
That's
immediately
north
of
the
sepuro
green
space
entry,
the
the
parking
there
is
really
dicey
and
there's
almost
always
somebody
who
is
parking
in
front
of
the
trail
connection.
It's
it's
kind
of
hard
to
to
get
there,
especially
in
winter,
because
there's
a
perception
that
people
aren't
biking,
so
you
might
just
need
to
do
a
bit
more
hands-on,
like
door
knocking
with
those
folks.
I
Additionally,
some
of
the
sight
lines
are
are
not
super
great
when
you're
coming
down,
there's
the
street,
that's
section
29th
that
isn't
super
great
and
then.
I
Lastly,
like
really
coordinating
with
like
the
property
owners
and
like
the
parking
garage
there
for
midtown
global
market,
often
times
like
when
I'm
biking
or
walking
through
there,
like,
I,
I
feel,
even
though
it's
supposed
to
be
like
safe
and
and
calm
and
and
wide
people
don't
drive
around
me
very
safely,
and
so
I
I
would
be
a
little
bit
concerned
with
any
type
of
on-street
facility
there
for
youth,
especially
you
know
it
has
this
perception
of
being
like
a
slower
speed
calmer
stretch,
but,
like
my
experience,
is
that
people
still
drive
pretty
aggressively
around
me
on
this
what's
supposed
to
be
kind
of
a
calmer
street.
I
O
O
I
I
have
one
quick
follow-up
question
with
respect
to
the
lake
street
crossing
what
type
of
intersection
possibilities
there
might
be.
Could
we
see
something
like
a
protected
intersection
there?
It's
it's
a
little
dicey
crossing
on
foot
even
and
it's
a
very
busy
intersection
with
with
people
trying
to
get
to
that
parking
garage
east
of
the
market.
O
Yeah,
I
think,
there's
you
know
very
similar
to
the
conversations
for
brown
park
and
portland
all
design
options
will
be
on
the
table
as
we
approach,
especially
these
high
injury
streets
for
sure
that
those
will
those
will
be
a
a
big
talking
point
through
this
and
design
considerations
will
be
heavy
at
those
those
intersections
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
that
that
safe
crossing.
J
Thank
you.
I
see
no
more
hands
up.
Thank
you
christian
for
a
great
presentation.
This
is
an
exciting
project
and
we'll
look
forward
to
seeing
you
back.
O
Yeah,
we'll
we'll
come
back
closer
to
30,
so
it'll
it'll
probably
be
a
waste
off
before
we're
back,
but
yep
we'll
bring
back
when
we
have
a
design
recommendation.
J
I
think
it'd
be
interesting,
perhaps
to
consider
15
just
so
we
might
be
able
to
see
what
you're
kind
of
coming
up
with
to
maybe
help
out
maybe
offer
some
input
there.
J
All
righty,
so
that's
all
our
presentations,
we're
at
the
announcement
phase.
J
Hearing
once
hearing
twice,
this
is
a
great
meeting.
I
tell
you.
We
really
need
to
thank
both
staff
and
the
presenters
for
being
able
to
offer
some
really
really
good
information
on
the
agenda
and
again
I
can
just
encourage
everybody
to
be
able
to
read
up
ahead
of
time
it.
It
really
helps
me
at
least
to
to
take
a
look
at
that
stuff.
J
J
K
C
J
Well,
one
last
thing
I
might
say
is
that
we're
still
working
on
the
cip
help
me
out
chris,
what
whatever
we
call
cip
recommendations
and
and
that's
exists
as
a
google
form,
and
it
might
be
something
that,
if
you're
interested
in
reading
it
ahead
of
the
full
bac
meeting
and
commenting
on,
maybe
you
could
contact
chris
and
he
can
send
you
the
link
to
it.