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From YouTube: December 5, 2022 Policy & Government Oversight Committee
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B
C
B
Five
present
let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum,
we'll
first
begin
with
our
consent
agenda,
which
has
34
items
and
I'm
just
going
to
double
check
this,
because
we
I
got
into
a
bit
of
confusion.
Last
time
cross
reference,
the
two
things:
that's
what
we
got
all
right,
so
I'll
read
them
into
the
record
item.
B
One
passage
of
resolution
related
to
appointed
position
in
the
3-1-1
service
center
Department
311
service
center
director
two
past
of
a
resolution
for
the
2023
polling,
place
designation,
three
passage
of
resolution
for
the
gift
acceptance
from
out
front
Minnesota
for
tickets
to
the
out
front,
Gala
four
approving
the
2023
appointed
non-represented
and
politically
appointed
employee
salary
schedule,
five,
approving
transgender
transgender
Equity
Council
appointments,
six
approving
Capital
long-range
Improvement
committee
click;
appointments
I'll
note
that
there
has
there's
an
additional
appointment
to
number
six
on
our
agenda
that
wasn't
ready
for
for
the
agenda
Publications,
which
is
a
council
appointment
to
seat
20
in
Ward,
10
and
I'll,
be
amending
the
item
to
include
this
and
move
approval
of
it.
B
Alongside
our
consent
agenda,
seven
is
authorizing
collective
bargaining
agreement,
Minneapolis
professional
employees,
Association
2023
through
2025
Aid,
is
authorizing
collective
bargaining
agreements.
International
Brotherhood
of
electric
Workers
Local
number
292,
which
is
from
2020
through
2021
and
through
2022,
from
2022
through
2024.
B
B
12
authorizing
contract
with
Tetra
Tech
Inc
to
provide
an
emergency
management
exercise
after
action
reporting,
an
improvement
planning
services,
13
authorizing
contract
with
Wyland
Associates
LLC
to
provide
incident
command
system
and
Incident
Management
team
training
services.
14
is
authorizing
contract
with
n
Harris
computer
Corporation
for
a
Utility,
Billing
System
and
authorizing
contract
with
stand.
Tech
Consulting,
Services
Inc
for
engineering
and
design
services
for
Pershing
Fulton
residential
neighborhood
reconstruction
project
16
is
authorizing
agreement
with
axon
Enterprise
Inc
for
a
field
trial
of
body,
worn
cameras
for
regulatory
services.
B
17
is
authorizing
contract
Amendment
with
axon
Enterprise
Inc
for
body,
worn
cameras
for
the
police
department
and
we're
about
halfway
through
I
hope,
everybody's
still,
awake
18
authorizing
contract
Amendment,
with
Paragon
restoration,
Restorations
to
Inc
for
the
11th
and
Marquette
ramp.
Epoxy
overlay
of
hellysis
project
19
authorizing
contract
Amendment
with
Messinger
construction
for
Hall
e
door
replacement
project
in
the
Minneapolis
Convention
Center
20
is
authorizing.
Contract
Amendment
with
Empire
house
Inc
for
additional
interior
glazing
and
metal
panels
for
the
public
service
building
project
21
is
authorizing.
B
Contract
Amendment
with
Eagan
company
for
Fridley
campus
electrical
Construction
22
is
authorizing
contract
Amendment
with
West
Yost
Associates
Inc
to
provide
secure
integration
and
Communications
alarming
for
Minneapolis
Water
Works
23
authorizing
contract
Amendment,
with
hlp
Inc
for
pet
licensing.
Software
24
authorizing
contract
Amendment
with
fuses
Inc
to
provide
a
virtual
safety
Network
for
Crime
investigations,
25
authorizing
contract
Amendment
with
B2B
technology
Inc
for
PeopleSoft
database
administrator
administrator
services.
B
27
authorizing
contract
Amendment
with
a
ball
Software
Corporations
for
project
docs
upgrade
28
authorizing
contract
Amendment
with
variant
America's
Inc
for
Professional
Services
to
upgrade
3-1-1's
Lagan
system.
B
Item
30
is
authorizing
contract
amendments
for
the
city's
computer,
aided
dispatch
system
for
911
support
31
is
authorizing
contract
Amendment
with
cost
planning
and
Management
International
Inc
for
owner's
project
representative
services
for
City
Hall
office
space
renovation
project
32
is
authorizing
contract
Amendment
with
world
World
Architects
and
Engineering
for
architectural
and
Engineering
Services.
For
the
city
hall
office,
space
renovation
project,
33
is
approving
a
legal
settlement.
Scott
Meyer
versus
Minneapolis
at
all
and
34
is
approving
a
legal
settlement
workers
compensation
claim
of
Stephen
lodig.
D
B
I
believe
possibly
the
attorneys
could
speak
to
33
and
and
yeah.
We
have
Laura
Johnson
here
for
34.
if
to
answer
to
it,
to
the
extent
that
they
can
okay.
D
Awesome
I'll
just
start
with
item
34
either
for
our
city,
attorneys
or
director
Johnson.
So
I
just
want
to
highlight
under
item
33
the
legal
settlement
of
Scott
Meyer
versus
the
City
of
Minneapolis
I
know
this
settlement
was
related
to
an
MPD
officer
who
threw
a
resident
cell
phone
off
a
bridge
when
the
resident
attempted
to
film
that
officer
during
the
summer
of
2020
I
just
want
to
know.
If
anyone
could
update
us
on
disciplinary
actions
that
the
officer
was
subjected
to
internally,
especially
if
it's
made
to
the
public
stage.
D
Don't
know
I
could
find
that
out
and
get
back
to
you,
you
and
then
item
34
the
legal
settlement
and
regards
to
a
worker
compensation
claim
from
Stephen
low
dig
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
clarification
on
one
first,
the
name
and
doing
my
research
I
know
that
there
was
the
MPD
officer
that
had
the
name
of
Stephen
Stephen
Loden
like
d-I-n-g,
though
the
one
on
this
one
shows
up
as
d-I-g
and
Stephen
loding
with
the
N
was
reported
in
2012
in
the
Pioneer
press
as
being
under
internal
Pro
for
threatening
some
Mali
residents.
D
Specifically
this
officer
loading
posted
on
Facebook
that
he
saw
a
American
flag
hanging
upside
down
in
the
Somali
hangout
spot
and
told
them
that
if
he
found
that
flag
upside
down
the
next
time,
that
s-h-I-t
would
hit
the
fan
and
there
will
be
trouble.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
if
this
is
a
different
officer
or
the
same
off
officer.
D
F
D
F
Charleston
councilmember
wansley
happy
to
look
at.
That
also
would
just
reiterate
that
our
work
claims
have
to
stand
alone
and
and
can't
take
that
into
consideration,
but
certainly
happy
to
clarify
that
with
you.
D
Awesome
and
just
some
kind
of
lasting
comments,
I
definitely
look
forward
to
the
the
follow-up
on
that.
Thank
you.
Director,
Johnson,
for
coming
up
I
do
want
to
know
as
we're
closing
out
the
year
that
you
know
we're
getting
these
settlement
cases
from
MPD
officers,
and
it's
just
it's
a
reminder
again
as
we're
still
in
this
phase
of
especially
revisiting
the
ccpo
ordinance
around.
You
know
the
direction
that
we're
going
to
take
police
accountability.
D
Just
even
with
these
settlements
like
just
like
I,
did
a
simple
search.
We
you,
you
know
people
anyone
can
search
these
names.
You
can
rightfully
wonder
you
know
why
are
officers
with
violent
histories
and
racist
Behavior
are
not
only
being
held
accountable,
but
also
are
able
to
move
forward
with
collecting
settlements.
High
sediments
I
mean
some
that
we
consider
upwards
to
150
000
of
taxpayer
dollars
and
I
want
to
name.
You
know
while
I'm,
for
you
know,
workers,
rights
and
believe
PTSD
claims
are
serious
conditions.
D
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
also
upholding
the
seriousness
of
accountability
that
our
residents
are
asking
us
to,
and
tomorrow
during
Cal
I
know,
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
discussions
around
again.
The
ccpo
proposal
I
really
hope.
My
colleagues
see
that
as
an
opportunity
to
correct
some
of
the
harms
around
around
our
accountability
practices,
especially
since
this
is
in
the
well
House
of
this
legislative
body.
So
I
didn't
want
to
note
that,
as
worse
again
coming
across
more
settlements,
as
we
close
out
the
year.
B
Thank
you,
Vice
chair.
Is
there
any
other
discussion
on
the
consent
agenda,
seeing
no
further
discussion,
I'll
move
approval
of
the
consent
agenda
with
the
amendment
to
item
six,
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye,
aye
aye.
Oh,
oh
sure,
let's
do
a
roll
call
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
G
C
Councilmember
excuse
me
Vice,
chair
wansley,.
C
And
chair
Olson
all
right,
we
have
five
eyes
on
items
one
through
32
and
excuse
me:
we
have
six
eyes
on.
You
know
five
eyes
on
items,
one
through
thirty,
two
Four
Eyes
on
item
33
and
three
eyes
on
item
34
and
two
minutes
and
two
names.
B
Great
and
I
believe
that
the
the
entire
consent
agenda
carries
and
I'll
ask
the
clerks
to
file
that
we
have
two
receiving
file
items
items.
35
is
the
2022
staff
purchasing
and
Joint
purchase
report.
B
We
won't
have
a
presentation,
but
if
my
colleagues
have
any
questions
we
have
staff
here
for
to
answer
questions
item
36
is
2022
quarterly
financial
status
report
on
select
City
funds.
Similarly,
no
presentation,
but
we
can
but
staff
is
available
for
any
discussion
or
questions
from
colleagues.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
items
35
and
36
all
right?
Seeing
no
discussion
on
these
items,
I
will
I
will
ask.
We
don't
have
to
actually
take
a
vote
on
a
receiving
file.
B
Then
I
will
ask
the
clerks
to
receive
those
and
file.
Those.
Thank
you
and
our
next
item
is
a
brief
presentation
related
to
a
staff
direction
from
our
June
13th
meeting.
This
was
an
item
that
was
added
to
our
agenda
in
response
to
an
item
for
the
acquisition
of
property
for
the
first
Precinct
Police
Station
I'll
now
introduce
Brian
Smith
director
of
the
Performance
Management
Innovation
Department,
to
present
on
this
item
director
Smith.
Thank
you.
So
much.
E
Good
afternoon,
chair
Ellison
committee
members,
my
name
is
Brian
Smith
I
am
the
director
of
the
Department
of
Performance,
Management
and
Innovation
and
I'm
here
to
give
a
quick
update,
hopefully
on
the
staff
Direction
regarding
the
public
safety
property
use
in
the
City
of
Minneapolis.
I
also
wanted
to
before
I
start
say
that
the
the
staff
direction
we
were
able
to
get
quite
a
bit
of
information
about
it.
E
There's
some
additional
information
that
we're
still
trying
to
get
and
when
you
hear
the
presentation
today,
there's
some
Nuance
as
a
person
who
work
with
the
department
to
get
the
information
that
I
just
wouldn't
be
able
to
answer.
But
in
talking
to
the
director
of
Property
Services
director
O'brien
I
know
that
any
detailed
questions
that
you
would
have
based
on
this
presentation
that
she
would
stand
ready
to
answer
those
not
today.
E
So
this
is
the
staff
Direction
which
has
me
presenting
today
on
and
I
won't
read
that,
but
he's
aware
of
what
that
staff
direction
is,
and
then
this
is
an
overview
so
we'll
go
over
the
facilities,
distribution,
the
operating
calls
facility,
conditions
and
assessment
as
well
as
future
updates.
E
So
what
you
see
before
you
on
this
slide-
and
you
have
the
presentations
in
front
of
you-
is
a
small
map
and
the
actual
entities.
So
we
have
a
disaggregated
you're
on
slide
four.
Yes,
we
have
a
disaggregated
map,
but
what
we
did
for
this
presentation
was
put
it
in
the
aggregate
so
that
you
could
know
how
many
in
facilities
are
associated
with
9-1-1,
Animal,
Control,
the
city
clerk
and
so
on.
E
But
we
have
that
in
the
disaggregate
too,
so
you
can
know
how
many
police
stations
there
are,
how
many
square
footage,
how
much
square
footage
each
police
station
is
how
much
each
police
fire
station
police
station
and
other
Public
Safety
facilities.
So
we
have
that
in
the
disaggregate,
but
we
aggregated
it
for
the
purposes
of
this
presentation,
and
so
you
can
see
the
total
number
of
workstations
in
each
one
of
those
facilities
and
the
total
square
footage.
E
The
workstations
are
not
equivalent
to
ftes.
Those
are
just
the
number
of
workstations
in
those
buildings
because
you
may
have.
Usually
you
have
more
people
using
a
building
than
you
actually
have
ftes
that
are
associated
with
that
building.
So,
for
instance,
the
fire
station
has,
it
says
it'll,
say
each
fire
station
will
say
one
Workstation,
but
there's
technically
anywhere
between
four
and
eight
people
in
that
fire
station,
depending
on
what
the
schedule
is
like.
E
Just
like
you
have
some
of
the
fired
up,
I
mean
I'm,
sorry,
police
departments
or
precincts
where
you
may
say
98
workstations,
but
we
know
we
have
Patrol.
Who
may
not
have
a
workstation.
We
have
some
investigators
who
may
not
have
a
workstation
in
that
place,
but
you
have
more
ft's
Associated
we're
going
to
try
to
get
as
much
more
of
that
much
more
information
regarding
the
ftes,
but
it
Ebbs
and
flows
with
hiring
and
people
retiring
or
people.
Relying
things
like
that,
so
that's
that's
a
little
more
difficult
to
nail
down.
B
You
have
quite
if
I
share
it
honestly.
Thank.
D
E
If
we're
getting
new
facilities
for
the
office
of
Community
safety
or
not
so
while
those
things
are
being
figured
out,
it's
kind
of
hard
for
us
to
nail
down
accurate
numbers
or
even
make
a
projection
about
what
the
space
would
look
like
that
they're
moving
to
and
it
hasn't
been
identified,
how
much
square
footage?
How
many
workstations?
We
just
don't
know
that
we'll
know
more
as
things
get
sorted
out
with
the
new
governance
structure
as
we
move
forward.
But
right
now,
some
of
those
things
are
just
still
unknowns.
E
These
are
the
the
total
operating
costs
again
all
of
the
numbers
that
you
see
here
today.
This
is
aggregate,
but
it's
disaggregated
in
a
report
that
I
can
also
give
to
you,
but
just
for
the
purposes
of
today's
meeting,
we
wanted
to
just
synthesize
it
as
much
as
we
could,
and
so,
as
you
can
see,
these
are
the
costs.
The
total
operating
costs
for
buildings
that
are
belonging
to
9-1-1,
Animal,
Control,
City
coordinators
office,
Emergency,
Management,
Police,
Department,
Health
Department.
Those
operating
costs
is
everything
from
lighting
heating
maintenance
costs.
E
Things
like
that,
so
everything
that
will
go
into
the
operation
of
a
building
is
a
part
of
it
and
one
of
the
things
that
director
O'brien
and
our
staff
also
helped
me
understand,
and
they
they've
got
a
lot
of
detail
about
this
stuff.
E
Is
that,
though,
the
third
precinct
isn't
being
used
now,
they're
still
operating
costs
to
you
know
to
make
sure
that
you
keep
the
heat
on
so
the
you
know,
the
pipes
don't
burst
and
still
maintenance
and
things
like
that,
and
so
they
do
a
really
good
job
of
explaining
what
goes
into
those
costs.
G
You
Carrollton
yeah
I,
just
had
a
quick
question
director
about
the
cost
discrepancy
between
the
fire
and
the
police
department.
Can
you
kind
of
help
me
understand
why
fire
which
I
know
has
I'm
not
sure
how
many
buildings
but
I,
think
we
have
more
than
the
police
department
and
the
police
departments
is
more
than
double
the
operating.
E
That
would
be
a
question
chair,
Ellison
councilmemberkowski,
that
level
of
detail
I'm
not
able
to
give
you
I'm,
not
sure
director
O'brien
would.
E
A
E
E
Lsn
council,
member
of
Utah,
that
cost
is
associated
with
the
BCR.
The
BCR
initially
had
space
in
our
new
Public
Service
building,
okay,
but
because
of
logistics
it
just
wasn't
working
and
so
working
with
director
O'brien.
She
was
able
to
put
the
BCR,
give
them
space
in
our
old
Public,
Service
Center,
and
so
that
cost
is
associated
with
having
them
in
that
space.
E
That
is
a
great
question:
Council
chair,
Ellison
council
member
Vita.
We
have
in
the
in
the
disaggregated
version
of
this
report,
I
think
there's
more
than
just
one
building
for
emergency
management
and
so
and
I.
Don't
have
that
slide
right
in
front
of
me,
but
I
think
it's.
This
is
the
aggregate
of
those
and
not
just.
D
Thank
you,
chair
Ellison.
This
question
I
asked
to
be
for
director,
O'brien
and
just
thinking
of
the
first
question
around
neighborhood
safety
and
as
we're
trying
to
figure
out
plans
for
how
to
create
more
permanent
and
and
suitable
spacing
for
this
new
office
of
community
safety.
I
just
want
to
know
if
director
Brian,
if
you're,
also
having
conversations
with
commissioner
Alexander,
also
director
Josh
Peterson
around
space
scene,
that's
going
to
also
be
inclusive
through
workstations
for
some
of
our
violence.
D
Interrupters
just
I
think
that
was
also
a
piece
of
my
intentionality
with
this
staff
Direction.
It's
also
seeing
some
of
the
you
know:
Contract
Services,
that
we
use
for
Public
Safety
and
how
they
often
are
not
given
or
have
permanent.
You
know
locality
themselves
if
they're
also
going
to
be
factor
into
like
decisions
around
Property
Services
in
the
future.
H
E
So
slide
six
in
the
conversations
with
director
o'briener's
staff,
what
we
as
I,
was
trying
to
figure
out
another
part
of
the
staff
Direction
was
how
how
do
they
gauge?
What's
a
facility,
that's
in
good
condition,
what's
a
facility
that
may
be
considered
in
okay
condition
and
what's
like
not
great?
E
That's
when
the
staff
and
Property
Services
explained
to
me
that
they
have
a
facilities,
conditions
assessment,
which
is
a
wonderful
tool
that
takes
all
sorts
of
things
into
consideration,
about
a
particular
facility
from
everything
from
a
roof
to
a
boiler
to
different
appliances
electrical,
and
so
they
have
a
this
tool
which
helps
them
to
identify
whether
something
has
a
high
score
or
low
score,
and
that
tool
is
something
that
director
O'brien
said
that
she
would
be
willing
to
take
any
council
member
through
to
explain
how
we
get
things
in
the
condition
and
how
we
score
them.
E
E
E
E
Things
like
you
can
have
a
boiler,
that's
working
perfectly,
but
the
life
of
it
is
say
eight
years
and
you're
at
year,
seven,
but
it's
still
working
great,
but
that's
something
that
would
change
the
color
on
different
things
in
a
facility
like
elevators
boilers
and
things
like
that,
and
so
again,
director
O'brien
said
that
she
would
be
willing
to
go
through
this
facilities.
Conditions
assessment
with
anyone
who
had
questions
to
explain
it
and
to
show
them
how
the
tool
works
and.
D
Awesome,
thank
you,
chair
Allison.
Actually,
if
I
could
have
director
or
Brian
come
up
just
to
provide
some
clarification
on
some
of
the
what's
described
here,
one
would
love
if
you
could
share
a
little
bit
details
around
what
it
struck.
Is
it
basically
going
through
the
character,
basically
the
columns
and
just
giving
a
quick
synopsis
of
what
they
are,
and
a
more
specific
question
is
if
you
could
share
a
little
bit
of
the
differences
between
safety,
the
column,
Safety
and
Security
foreign.
H
This
snapshot,
we
is,
is
just
fat,
it's
just
a
snapshot
of
what
this
tool
can
do
for
us,
and
so
these
columns
are
not
necessarily,
you
know,
it's
sort
of
a
filter
and
I
think
this
was
used
as
an
example
or
a
demonstration
from
my
staff
members
to
Brian
to
show
basically
how
how
we
do
and
utilize
our
condition,
assessment
tool,
and
so
I
think
that
you
did.
You
ask
me
if.
H
Sure
I'm,
not
even
going
to
pretend
like
I,
can
read
this,
but
but
I
I
think
that
I
can
I
think
I'm
familiar
enough
with
it.
That
I
can
talk
about
some
of
these
categories
and
there
are
many
more
by
the
way.
This
was
just
a
a
filter
that
was
given.
B
H
Many
many
categories-
and
this
was
just
I-
think
given
as
a
a
filter,
so
that
we
could
demonstrate
some
of
the
things
that
we
look
at
I.
Think
you
asked
about
infrastructure
or
was
it
ffne
or
yes,.
H
So
ffne
is
finishes,
and
so
that
could
be
anything
from
like
in
this
room
finishes
would
be
considered
drapery,
but
most
of
our
facilities
don't
have
direct
Brewery.
We
have
blinds,
but
ffne
would
include
things
like
window
treatments.
It
would
include
carpeting,
it
would
include
systems
Furniture
in
some
of
our
fire
stations
that
would
include
wardrobes
and
even
mattresses
and
bedding,
because
people
stay
there
24
hours
a
day.
So
that's
an
example
of
epiphany
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
in
our
facility
condition.
H
H
We
replace
those
repeatedly
and
probably
a
lot
more
rapidly
than
you
would
in
your
home
naturally,
and
so
that
would
be
something
that
we
would
track,
and
so
that
would
fall
under
ffne
and
we
would
track
when
we
purchased
it
and
then,
when
what
the
expected
life
of
that
asset
would
be
at
the
time
that
we
purchase
it,
and
then
we
track
how
far
it
has
left
in
its
life
expectancy
and
it's
just
kind
of
a
cycle
throughout.
So
again,
this
is
just
a
a
filtered
demonstration
of
all
of
the
things
that
we
track.
H
You
asked
me
specifically
to
talk
about
the
difference
between
between
Safety
and
Security.
If
you
break
down
safety,
that
can
include
thorough,
Affairs
and
arrival
points,
so
that
could
be
the
condition
of
the
sidewalk.
For
example,
leading
up
to
a
building
or
Ada
accessibility
can
fall
under
that
anything
that
would
be
related
to
your
overall
physical
safety
in
approaching
or
being
in
the
building,
okay
and
then
Security.
H
In
our
case,
security
is
in
reference
to
things
like
cameras
and
things
that
are
like
dress
buttons
and
or
pull
cords
things
that
are
directly
related
to
our
ability
to
provide
security
to
our
facilities
and.
H
D
One
too,
are
we
also
now
I
know
this
is
relatively
new
around
well
pulse
2020,
the
fencing
around
some
of
our
police
briefings,
like
the
fourth
precinct,
for
instance,
that
is
that
also
being
factored
into
costs
related
to
security.
Sure
absolutely
it.
H
E
E
The
next
slide
just
talks
about
future
updates,
as
you
all
can
tell
today
that,
wherever
Performance,
Management
and
Innovation
is
asked
to
provide
some
information,
do
some
research
and
things
like
that.
We're
fully
capable
of
doing
that.
However,
the
heavy
lifting
is
done
by
you
know
in
this
instance
Property
Services
and
director
O'brien
and
her
team,
and
so
some
of
those
more
nuanced
and
detailed
questions.
If
asked
to
come
and
present
that
with
them,
we'd
be
more
than
happy
to
do
it.
E
But
we
think
that
in
most
instances
you
can
get
that
information
directly
from
director
O'brien
so
investigating
as
we
move
forward
investigating
the
projected
Staffing
levels
again.
A
lot
of
that
is
for
lack
of
a
better
term
and
flux
right
now,
because
you've
got
ftes
moving
from
some
places
to
other
places,
you've
got
new
departments
being
created
and
things
like
that,
and
we
don't
know
necessarily
what
people
will
be
housing.
D
So
of
a
comment
definitely
related
to
the
updates
I'm
really
interested
in
this,
and
knowing
that
we're
having
an
ongoing
conversation
around,
for
instance,
MPD
we
know
are
way
under
that
Charter
mandated
figure
of
you
know,
700
or
whatever
the
case
it
might
be
we're
currently
at
around
500
and
something
so
knowing
that
there
is
workstations
or
workspace
or
square
footage.
E
Great,
and
so
these
last
things
with
the
updates
as
I
State
them,
there's
also
a
few
questions
for
clarity.
That
would
be
helpful
for
me
and
my
staff,
as
we
move
forward
with
working
with
the
other
departments
around
the
city,
to
make
sure
that
we're
giving
this
body
exactly
what
they
need
and
so
identifying
program
delivery
outcomes.
I
know
every
department
is
responsible
for
doing
that
to
some
committee
anyway,
and
so
I
just
wanted
Clarity
around
if
we
were
going
to
do
future
updates.
E
Giving
these
that
they're
questions
but
they'll
have
to
be
answered
right
now,
just
things
to
think
about
and
I'll
also
write
them
and
and
send
them
back
to
council,
member
wansley
and
his
body,
which
the
staff
Direction
came
from
the
other
part.
D
From
if
I
share
absolutely
following
up
on
that
director
Brian-
and
this
might
be
something
good
to
also
Lupine
councilmember
Koski
I
know,
we
both
have
a
big
interest
in
strengthening
Performance
Management
goes
around.
You
know
our
program
delivery
so
that
we're
making
better
informed
policy
decisions
and
budgetary
decisions
around
some
of
the
key
aspects
of
our
you
know,
city
services
and
I
could
see.
D
This
is
probably
another
area
that
we
probably
work
with
your
office
and
Jonathan
who's,
leading
Up,
Performance
Management
to
start
identifying
more
clearly
like
what
you're
asking
for
here.
So
I
just
wanted
to
note,
like
I,
see
that
being
integrated
in
some
that
are
going
work
around
Performance
Management
too.
So
thank
you
for
naming
that
okay.
E
Thank
you
and
then
the
continue
public
input
process.
E
I
can
only
speak
to
certain
aspects
of
people's
how
they
get
public
input
and
that's
typically
related
to
the
relationship
that
Performance
Management
innovation
has
had
with
MPD
with
the
office
of
neighborhood
safety
formula,
ovp
and
others
will,
because
of
our
work.
We're
well
aware
of
what
they
do
to
engage
the
public.
But
the
question
that
we
have
is:
are
you
meaning
just
engage
the
public
in
general
around
what
they
do
or
do
you
mean?
B
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
chair
Allison.
Thank
you
for
raising
that
I
do
think.
There
is
a
point
of
clarification
and,
and
especially,
if
there's
going
to
be
merging
of
some
of
these,
you
know
departments
that
we've
newly
created
with
some
of
the
existing.
You
know,
infrastructures
that
we
have,
as
you
all,
are
having
these
conversations
again
around
like
spaces,
that's
not
being
used.
I
think
it
will
be
good
for
the
public
to
know
like
if
we're
about
to
have
a
mixed-use
approach
to
some
of
these
facilities.
D
So
everyone
is
on
board
on
like
what
they're
doing
like,
for
instance,
you
know
council,
member
Chavez
is
in
his
budget
amendment,
just
let
the
the
pathway
for
us
to
invest
in
a
public
safety
system
like
what
would
that
look
like
I
know,
people
are
even
asking
like.
D
Could
we
have
a
model
like
that,
for
the
you
know,
formerly
third
precinct
building
so
I
think
some
of
that
too,
like
what
is
the
usage
of
these
buildings,
like
what
services
are
located,
even
with
the
amendment
that
I
brought
people
didn't
even
know,
we
had
a
community
Attorneys
at
our
precincts
and
it's
just
like
yeah,
that's
a
service
that
we
should
be
making
use,
or
even
now
the
social
workers
that
we
approve
through
this
committee
to
be
at
precinct.
D
So
I
think
it's
that
piece
of
that
educational
awareness
amongst
the
public
about
what
services
are
located
in
these
facilities,
but
something
else-
and
maybe
director
O'brien,
might
also
have
some
answers
or
clarifications
around
this
I
think
also
the
receptivity
levels
of
our
facilities.
I
named
earlier.
You
know
with
the
third
precinct
right
now,
the
fourth
precinct,
having
fencing
around
those
facilities.
D
I
know
my
office
get
contacted
pretty
regularly
about
how
unapproachable
the
the
level
of
intimidation
that
strikes
in
our
residence
of
having
literally
military
military
grenade,
military
militarized
facilities
in
our
communities
that
are
also
supposed
to
be
framed.
It's
like
these,
these
havens
of
safety,
so
even
I,
don't
know
if
there
is
a
current
category
or
marker
of
evaluation
right
now
around
our
facilities
of
just
the
level
of
receptivity
around
our
facilities
right
now
with
the
public.
D
Do
you
even
feel
like
this
building
or
facility
is
approachable
or
welcoming
for
you,
so
I
would
love
to
hear
that
input
as
we're
engaging
residents
around
our
current
facilities
too,
across
the
city.
E
A
A
E
So
chair
Ellison
council
member
Vita,
the
the
staff
Direction,
which
was
about
analyzing
the
buildings,
it
was
not
just
about
how
much
space
how
much
they
cost,
but
also
it
included
how
people
plan
to
use
the
buildings.
Could
they
be?
Could
there
be,
for
example,
mixed
use?
Could
there
be
one
of
the
examples
that
I
can
use
is
I
know
in
work
that
I
used
to
do
with
Brooklyn
Center?
They
also
had
space
dedicated
to
the
YMCA
and
their
staff
to
work
with
community
members
inside
of
their
police
station.
E
There's
also
examples
of
that.
You
know
in
other
places,
in
Minnesota
and
throughout
and
throughout
the
country,
how
we
were
engaging
people
about
the
use
of
that
space,
how
we
were
perceiving.
E
It
was
also
meant
the
way
I
received
it
and
the
way
we
interpreted
it
in
our
conversations
with
council
member
wansley
is
that
it
was
supposed
to
also
be
very,
very
comprehensive
in
getting
as
much
the
scope
may
seem,
Broad
and
wide,
but
just
to
invite
the
conversations
about
not
just
having
it
as
a
physical
building,
what
we
pay.
But
what
those
uses
could
be
how
internal
people
perceive
those
uses.
How
external
people
perceive
those
uses
as
we're
moving
to
a
new
model
of
more
comprehensive
Public
Safety.
E
To
make
sure
that
we
had
all
of
that
thinking
involved
as
we
move
forward,
so
that
you
all
as
a
body,
would
have
as
much
information
as
possible
about
this
new
reimagining
Public
Safety.
These
transformations
to
office
of
community
safety
and
neighborhood
safety,
that
all
of
those
thoughts
would
be
included.
And
then
you
would
have
a
at
least
a
more
comprehensive
picture
to
make
informed
policy
and
budget
decisions,
and
so
that's
seems
broad.
E
It
seems
like
Oh
I
thought
it
was
just
this
thing
and
I
thought
it
was
that
and
I
actually
struggled
with
the
same
thing
in
the
beginning,
Vice
chair,
Wesley,
can
tell
you
I
called
a
couple
of
times
like.
A
I'm
still
struggling
but
I'll
meet
with
you,
offline,
I,
I'm,
I'm,
just
being
completely
honest,
I'm
I,
don't
it's
not
connecting
for
me.
I
thought
it
was
going
to
be
like
an
analysis
of
our
existing
facilities
and
how
we
may
you
know,
use
them
in
the
future,
how
we
can
incorporate
some
of
the
existing
programs
like
BCR
or
like
ovp
into
these
buildings.
If
you
know
Community
wanted
them
and
I
guess
I'm,
not
hearing
how
we
are
going
to
do
that.
A
So
I'm
more
than
happy
to
talk
about
this
offline
and
I
may
also
have
just
had
a
different
understanding.
You
know
from
the
staff
direction
of
what
you
know
what
my
expectation
could
be
different
than
what
was
intended
today,
so
I'll
reach
out
and
set
up
something.
So
I
can
get
a
better
understanding
with
you
and
councilmember
wansley
was
the
author
of
this
right?
Okay,
thank.
B
You
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
add.
Really
quick
and
I
know
that
Vice
chair
Wesley
can
speak
on
her
on
behalf,
but
I
also
also
think
that
I
understood
earlier
that
this
analysis
isn't
quite
complete.
B
There
were
certain
things
that
you
weren't
able
to
answer
there
was
there
were
certain
there
were
some
outstanding
questions
that
maybe
need
some
clarification,
and
so
I
also
just
wanted
to
say
that,
because
I
believe
one
of
the
slides
even
illustrates
like
you
know,
this
analysis
is
not
the
final
analysis
and
so
and
so
I
do
think
some
of
what
we're
supposed
to
what
some
of
the
things
that
will
come
out
of
this
are
exactly
some
of
the
things
that
you're
talking
about,
but
I
think
that,
given
the
time,
maybe
it's
the
time
frame
this
might
this?
B
Might
it
might
take
much
longer
to
compile
this
data
than
than
we
gave
in
the
original
staff
Direction,
which
I
think
can
be
and
I
I
don't
want
to
speak
on
your
behalf,
director
Smith,
but
some
of
those
things
might
be.
But
this
is
not
the
complete
analysis
of
my
understanding
by
Sheriff
wansley.
Thank.
D
You
chair,
Allison
I,
just
wanted
to
also
confirm
that
too
councilmember
Vita
I'm
really
excited
to
work
with
director
O'brien,
all
of
us
to
really
get
a
sense
of
how
we
can
secure
some
of
the
updates
that
you
name
that's
included
in
this
staff.
Direction
I
want
to
note.
When
we
passed
this,
we
didn't,
we
hadn't
even
formally
created
the
Office
of
community
safety.
D
So
knowing
now
that
property,
you
know
service
director
O'brien
is
going
to
be
meeting
with
them
to
also
get
an
assessment
of
what
their
needs
are,
so
that
you
know
violence
Interrupters
over
all
those
initiatives
in
there
they
could
be
factored
into
a
future
analysis
of
like
okay.
Now
we
got
a
sense
of
what
our
square
foot
or
operational
cost
is.
How
can
we
explore
mixed
use
with
some
of
these
new
programs?
So
I
do
want
to
know
like
thank
you
for
naming
I
do
see
this
as,
like.
D
You
know,
announces
that
still
on
ongoing
and
absolutely
if
there's
other
things,
that's
missing
as
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
have
this
be
reflective
of
our
new
safety
system.
Like
we'll
love
to
chop
it
up
with
you
about
that,
too,.
B
And
we've
got
councilman
burkowski,
but
councilmember
Vito
might
have
a
direct
question.
If
you
still.
A
Want
to
no
not
a
question
I
just
wanted
to.
Thank
you
all
for
that
clarification,
because
sometimes
you
know
you
don't
know
if
this
stuff
is
going
over
your
head
or
if
you
like,
are
just
lost
right
like
what.
So.
Thank
you
for
that
clarification.
Happy
to
hear
that
this
is
just
the
first
and
not
the
Complete,
because
I
did
come
in
thinking
that
this
was
going
to
be.
You
know
the
final
and
like
we
would
have
takeaways
where
we
could
start
beginning
the
process,
so
happy
to
know
that
this
is
just.
E
And
I
apologize
for
that
yeah.
Maybe
I
didn't
state
it
as
clearly
as
I
could
have
in
the
beginning,
which
was
we've
got
a
portion
of
the
staff
Direction
done,
and
this
slide
that
we're
on
now
slide
8
is
to
indicate
those
other
things
that
are
missing,
and
so
it
probably
seemed
like
we
would
so
I
apologize.
But
if
I
didn't
clarify
that
as
much
as
I
thought,
I
might
have
in
the
beginning,
because
I
know
sometimes
I
don't
do
that,
but
you're
absolutely
correct
and.
G
Thank
you,
chair
Olson,
yes,
I
have
the
same
confusion
or
question
and
I
think
the
thought
and
hope
of
what
was
today
and
then
I
think
now
I'm
understanding
what
we
will
be
getting
in
the
future,
so
just
so
that
I
can
be
clear
and
understand
what
might
be
a
deliverable
in
the
future
I'm
just
going
to
use
this
as
an
example
I'm
looking
at
these
little
dots
here,
but
so,
for
example,
I'm
looking
in
Ward
8,
there
is
a
red
dot,
so
I
think
that
is
a
fire
station
in
the
future
I'm
this
I'm
making
all
this
up
I'm
just,
but
would
this
be
a
deliverable
that
you
might
come
to
us
and
say
we
have
identified
that
fire
station
whatever
number
this
is
here
in
Ward
8
also
has
x
amount
of
square
feet
and
we
feel
that
there
could
be
some
violence
Interrupters.
G
E
Lsn
councilman
murkowski,
exactly
we
don't
know
if
that
will
be
the
case,
but
through
our
engagement
with
talking
with
you
know,
the
new
Office
of
Public
Safety
Office
of
neighborhood
safety.
We
have
contracts
with
a
lot
of
different
people
who
may
have
space
may
not
have
space
that
we
can
use,
and
so
there's
again
there's
so
many
moving
parts
right
now
that
we
hope
that
when
we
get
back
to
you,
we
will
be
able
to
answer
more
and
more
of
those
questions.
E
But
that
would
definitely
be
some
of
the
deliverables
and
I
see
this
more
as
a
ongoing
process,
as
opposed
to
we've
arrived
every
time
we
come
we'll
have
more
and
more
for
you,
but
if,
if
we're
doing
this,
the
way
that
we're
starting
to
become
accustomed
to
working,
which
is
understanding
that,
like
there's
not
always
this
Final
Destination,
but
if
we're
constantly
looking
at
stuff
that
there
will
be
different
iterations
of
it
and
it's
constantly
evolving
and
so
you'll
have
some
of
those
things
that
you
want
at
Council
memokowski
at
every
time
we
come
back,
but
we
just
know
that
it'll
probably
be
something
different.
G
E
We
will
likely
come
in
quarterly
to
report
that
has
not
been
something
that
we've
discussed,
but
that's
typically
what
we
do,
but
if
the
if
this
body
decided
that
they
wanted
us
to
report
more
frequently
less
frequently
that
that's
the
decision
to
be
made
here
but
we'll
be
prepared
to
come
and
present
whenever
the
body
calls
us
yeah.
B
And
I
and
I
also
want
to
say
that
the
staff
Direction
directed
you
all
to
come
back
to
this
meeting
on
this
day,
and
so
some
of
what
we're
getting
from
this
update
is
a
timeline.
We
chose
not
necessarily
the
timeline
that
OPI
I
gotta
get
I
gotta
fix
all
my
acronyms
I
can't
remember
what
the
acronyms
are
anymore,
but
not
necessarily
the
timeline
that
you
all
chose
and
so
I
think
moving
forward,
we'll
be
able
to
now
that
some
of
this
work
has
been
underway.
B
D
You
future
Ellison
and
I
will
name
to
what
I'm
also
hearing
from
Council
Members,
especially
knowing
like
this
budget
cycle.
You
know,
could
council
member
Vita,
you
just
pass
this
one
around
supporting
Community
groups
in
your
area
to
do
more,
responsive
work
around
safety.
D
I
can
imagine
some
of
those
groups
also
might
would
have
some
say
or
want
to
know
like
how
they
can
be
factored
into
locality
and
having
permanent
residency
with
some
of
our
facilities
same
way
with,
like
our
violence,
Interrupters
and
many
of
the
workers
we
have
within
neighborhood
safety,
something
that
I
definitely
would
love
to
follow
up
with
director
Brian.
It's
like
maybe
doing
a
listening
session
or
study
session
from
Pogo,
where
we
can
even
dive
into
some
of
the
things
that
you're
raising
council
member
Koski
around
setting
some
of
the
performance.
D
You
know
metrics
that
we
would
like
to
see
around
some
of
this
work
and
have
that
also,
you
know,
be
kind
of
at
the
Forefront
of
of
January,
as
you
all
work
to
like
prepare
secondary
updates
for
that
next
quarter
report.
So
that's
something
that
I
also
will
commit
to
doing
like
working
with
you
all
to
figure
out
how
we
can
do
some
type
of
study
session
where
we
could
dig
in
deeper
and
even
have
some
of
our
community
members
be
able
to
share
how
they
would
like
to
be
part
of
this
process.
D
So
I
just
want
to
follow
up
on
that.
One.
B
Great
is
there
any
other
discussion
I
believe
we've
completed
the
presentation.
Yes,
one.
E
More
okay,
chair,
Ellison,
there's
one
more
and
council
member
Koski
had
already
gone
to
it's
on
the
back,
there's
a
legend
and
a
map
that
actually
that
director
O'brien
provided
us
with.
That
shows
you
all
of
the
facilities
that
we
have
throughout
the
city
what
war
they're
in,
and
so
you
have
that
and
the
other
thing
that
director,
O'brien
and
I
had
talked
about
that.
We
thought
would
be
extremely
helpful
for
the
councils
in
making
decisions.
E
Moving
forward
is
putting
together
a
tour
for
the
council
of
not
all
of
our
Public
Safety
facilities,
but
a
decent
mix
of
the
public
safety
facility,
so
that
you
can
get
an
idea
between
fire,
Emergency,
Management
police
stations
and
things
like
that.
Those
that
are
in
you
know-
and
we
give
you
a
mix
of
conditions,
those
who
those
that
are
have
been
around
and
maybe
not
as
updated
as
much
and
those
that
we
would
like
to
say.
Okay,
this
is
five
star.
If
there's
such
a
thing,
I
don't
want
to
speak
on
behalf.
F
E
Director
O'brien,
but
we
wanted
to
put
that
together
for
the
council
members
sometime
in
January,
and
so
you
should
be
expecting
some
information
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks
about
that,
but
other
than
that.
E
We're
done
and
I
I
could
not
remember
some
of
the
things
that
chair
Vice,
chair,
Wesley
was
saying:
I
couldn't
tell
if
he
was
saying
director
Brian
or
director
O'brien
because
of
the
Mask.
So
I
was
like
I,
don't
know
it
was
to.
D
B
Thank
you
and
I.
We
do
have
one
last
commenter
question
from
councilmember
Vita.
A
B
B
A
E
B
Got
Vice
chair,
wensley.
D
Oh
just
a
tag
in
to
council
member
Vitas
request:
I
I
have
glasses
and
I
still
struggled
with.
I
was
up
here
like
this,
with
the
facility
conditions
assessment.
So
if
that
one
also
can
get
an
enlarged
print
review
or
something
like.
B
Like
a
vector
file,
we
can
zoom
in
as
big
as
we
need
cool
great.
Thank
you.
So
much
just
want
to
real
quick
before
we
conclude
I
want
to
thank
all
of
I
want
to
thank
our
clerks.
This
is
our
last
meeting
of
the
year.
Is
my
understanding,
I
think
and
yeah.
Yes,
knock
on
wood
it'll
be
a
last
meeting
of
the
year.
It
was
a
big
agenda
and
all
year
I
know
the
staff
worked
really
hard.
B
Our
clerks
worked
really
hard
to
to
make
sure
that
we
stayed
on
track
and
that
we
got
everything
that
we
needed
through
and
obviously
our
attorney
and
so
and
and
yes,
today
was
a
really
big
agenda.
I'm
excited
to
read
it
two
more
times
and
and
and
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
everybody
next
year.
So
thank
you
guys
for
a
great
first
year
in
Pogo.
That's
all
oh
and
sorry,
seeing
no
further
business
before
us.
We
are
adjourned.