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From YouTube: March 2, 2022 Public Health & Safety Committee
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B
B
Let
the
record
reflect
that
we
have
a
quorum
with
that.
The
agenda
for
today's
meeting
is
before
us.
There
are
three
items
on
today's
consent
agenda
item.
One
is
accepting
a
minnesota
department
of
health
grant
for
covet
19
vaccine
hesitancy
in
the
workplace
item
two
is
accepting
the
national
forensic
science
improvement
grant
for
supplies
for
police
department,
crime
lab
and
item
three
is
referring
to
staff
the
subject
matter
of
a
signatory
authority
on
centers
for
disease
control
and
prevention,
public
health
associate
program
host
agreements
with
the
minneapolis
health
department.
D
D
C
B
Are
six
eyes
that
carries
and
the
consent
agenda
is
approved?
Item
number:
four.
Is
the
first
item
on
today's
discussion
agenda
item
four
item
number
four
is
receiving
and
filing
a
presentation
on
the
minneapolis
police
department
buyback
program.
We
have
director
robin
mcpherson
here
to
kick
us
off
with
a
presentation.
E
Committee,
chair
council
members,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
this
afternoon,
there's
quite
a
few
people
from
the
police
department
who
are
here
this
afternoon
to
help
answer
some
of
these
questions
and
go
through
the
various
parts
of
this
program
and
so
I'll
wait.
I
won't
introduce
them
all
now,
but,
as
I
come
up,
we
can
I'll
introduce
them
if
we
can
start
with
the
first
slide.
The
next
slide,
please
thank
you.
E
I
wanted
to
start
with
just
kind
of
a
brief
explanation
of
buyback
because
I
think
maybe
there
is
a
little
bit
of
confusion
out
there
on
what
actually
buyback
means.
So
there
are
several
components
or
different
types
of
buyback
and
they're
listed
in
the
table
on
this
particular
and
slide
two,
but
in
general,
buyback
is
overtime.
Hours
worked
by
sworn
staff,
that's
beyond
the
regular
and
overtime
operations
of
the
department.
E
It
is
voluntary,
so
officers
sign
up
to
work
and
it
is
completely
voluntary.
We
do
not
guarantee
that
the
hours
worked
or
the
hours
that
are
posted
will
all
be
worked
and
they're
funded
by
entities
that
are
external
to
the
police
department,
but
they
are
paid
through
the
md
mpd
payroll.
So
in
essence,
we
invoice
with
the
exception
of
internal
departments,
to
the
city
which
we'll
get
into
later,
we've
invoiced
these
different
entities,
they're
primarily
a
contractual
arrangement.
E
If
the
requester
is
external
to
the
city
and
then
the
mpd
charges
are
based
purely
on
hours
worked.
So
there's
no
billing
for
non-worked
hours,
there's
no
profit
on
this.
The
revenue
that
comes
in
equals
the
expenses
that
go
out
so
the
types
of
of
of
buyback
that
there
are
and
we'll
get
into
these
more
in
a
couple
of
slides.
E
E
E
So
you
can
see
in
the
first
the
first
graph
here
on
the
left
that
our
buyback
has
actually
gone
down.
Pre-Pre-Pandemic
it
was
higher,
it
has
gone
down
and
it
has
not
gone
back
up
since
2019
and
2020
and
2021
have
been
relatively
consistent.
We
do
not
really
know
what
to
expect
for
2022.
E
I
think
it
may
go
up
a
little
bit,
but
I
don't
think
it
will
go
up
to
pre-pandemic
levels.
That's
just
my
estimate
and
then
again
on.
The
right
is
a
graph
of
the
different
types
of
buyback
hours
in
2020
21
as
a
pie
chart
and
the
total
hours
of
buyback
9600
is
4
of
our
total
overtime
hours
in
2021.
E
These
are
the
examples
of
buyback
over
the
last
10
years,
and
you
can
see
it's
quite
varied.
Our
buyback
actually
goes
back.
I
ran
a
report
for
20
years
ago
and
there
was
buy
back
in
there
all
right.
I'm
sorry.
I
didn't
run
a
report.
I
was
looking
through
some
old
contracts
and
there's
buy
back
in
there,
so
buyback
has
been
around
for
quite
a
period
of
time.
F
Good
afternoon,
everybody
thank
you
so
much
for
having
us
here
today,
so
I
am
here
to
talk
a
bit
about
the
buyback
grants
that
we
have
that
are
reflected
in
the
grant
work
done
with
our
federal
and
state
partners.
So
again,
the
primary
source
of
this
funding
is
through
the
federal
and
state
government.
F
It's
interesting
to
note
really
that
the
work
that
is
done
as
part
of
these
grants,
it's
very
complementary
to
the
work
that
we're
already
doing.
It's
very
specific
and
directed
to
detailed
work
that
people
are
doing.
It's
not
here's
over
time
and
use
it
as
you
need.
It
is
specific
to
the
work
that's
being
done.
For
example,
when
we
look
at
say
the
work
that
one
of
our
investigators
does
within
the
forensics
division.
It's
the
minnesota
exploitation
of
children.
F
The
task
force
work
that
he
does
it's
investigative
work
that
is
primarily
done
forensically
through
computers
and
the
work
that
he
does
with
the
state
is
state
funded
it's
on
overtime,
but
it
complements
the
work
that
he's
already
focused
on
on
his
day-to-day
with
his
day-to-day
work,
the
rate
of
the
work
that's
being
done.
The
cost
is
based
on
the
overtime,
with
some
minimal
restrictions
to
variable
fringe,
primarily
severance
and
variable
french
rate.
F
So
another
example
of
some
of
the
some
of
this
type
of
grant
work
that's
being
conducted
right
now
would
be
to
reflect
on
the
dwi
court
funding
that's
a
year
by
year,
grant
that's
paid
and
managed
through
hennepin
county
they're,
the
ones
that
manage
the
grant
and
direct
the
work.
F
It's
a
focus
on
restorative
justice
for
a
program
and
what
we
do
is
we've
got
staff
that'll
go
out
and
check
on
the
clients
that
are
associated
with
the
dwi
court
work
and
check
in
with
them
see
if
there's
anything
that
they
need
and
they've
actually
developed.
Some
really
nice
relationships
and
it's
been
a
very
fruitful
program
for
everybody.
So
I
think
that's
a
real
positive
for
everyone
involved.
F
Moving
on
then
to
the
other
city
departments
and
park
police.
This
is
a
source
of
funding
that
was
built
into
built
in
through
other
departments
and
park
budgets.
F
They
also
have
situations
where
we'll
assist
with
construction
and
traffic
and
with
events
and
security
when
it
comes
to
supporting
the
parks
and
large
events
that
they
might
host
the
rate
is
the
cost
for
overtime
and
is
charged
directly
from
one
city
department
to
the
other.
So
I'll
turn
it
back
to
you
director.
F
E
G
Thank
you,
director,
chair,
vita
and
other
members
of
the
council.
I
am
going
to
discuss
buyback
as
it
relates
to
neighborhoods
and
organizations.
G
As
director
mcpherson
pointed
out,
a
lot
of
our
numbers
have
decreased
some
of
the
neighborhoods
and
organizations
that
had
used
buyback
in
some
of
the
examples
you've
seen
over
the
past
10
years.
That
is
not
necessarily
the
case
any
any
further.
G
Much
of
what
you're
seeing
in
terms
of
this
category
is
buybacks
surrounding
d.I.d
in
downtown,
and
I
will
allow
inspector
peterson
away
in
a
bit
on
that,
essentially
allowing
us
to
facilitate
the
joint
beats
that
we
do
with
police
reserves,
smaller
events
or
venues.
G
Some
of
the
things
that
are
going
on
either
be
the
downtown
art.
Fair,
uptown,
special
service
district
is
a
is
another
one
that
is
utilized.
As
we
all
know,
the
uptown
area
is
somewhat
somewhat
on
par
at
times
with
our
downtown
entertainment
district,
and
this
affords
that
area
to
have
a
nighttime
safety
plan.
G
G
Jag
funds
are
discussed
on
this
and
I
don't
necessarily
know
how
they've
been
parsed
out
within
within
our
records,
but
the
justice
assistance
grants
afford
our
inspectors
the
ability
to
provide
overtime,
resources
to
areas
and
problems
being
brought
forth
by
the
community
and
that
also
which
data
shows
are
having
problems
in
the
area
such
as
violent
crime
hot
spots,
and
that
affords
our
inspectors
the
ability
to
bring
in
additional
resources
and
help
address
the
concerns
that
the
community
is
bringing
forward
inspector
peterson.
G
If
you
would
like
to
weigh
in
a
bit
on
how
buyback
is
utilized,
particularly
in
the
downtown,
which
is,
I
would
say,
an
important
utilizer
of
this
form
of
buyback.
H
Absolutely
thank
you
chief
good
afternoon.
Everyone
and
thank
you
for
having
me,
as
the
commander
of
the
first
precinct
buyback,
is
used
in
a
wide
variety
of
ways
within
the
first
first
precinct.
H
I
already
touched
on
tcf
bank
stadium,
the
theater
groups
target
center
timberwolves,
mainly
for
those
it's
event,
security,
external
vent
security,
and
it
is
a
force
multiplier
for
us.
So
one
of
the
main
buybacks
that's
been
in
use
for
us
downtown
is
associated
with,
did
putting
out
buyback
to
have
officers
working
in
coordination
with
our
police
reserves,
who
are
volunteers
on
nicolette
mall
during
our
busy
summer
months,
when
we
have
the
joint
beats
going.
H
The
joint
beans
joint
beats
are
a
collaboration
between
mpd
transit
pd
and
the
head
of
the
county
sheriff's
department,
but
the
the
beats
that
are
being
put
out
with
the
police
reserves.
It's
essentially
helping
to
fund
putting
out
two
police
officers
and
four
reserves
typically
four
days
a
week
and
it's
able
to
help
create
a
highly
visible
public
safety
presence
presence
along
nicolette,
mall,
ninth
and
nicklett
is
one
of
our
most
challenging
areas
within
the
entire
first
precinct.
Right
now
and
last
year
I
just
pulled
a
few
stats
having
those
reserves
out
there.
H
They,
with
our
officers
working
buyback
hours,
they
did
1263
citizen
contacts,
123
business
contacts.
They
worked
a
total
of
48
days
out
there
20,
I'm
sorry
36
traffic
enforcement
contacts,
and
then
they
assisted
all
of
these
other
efforts
that
we
have
out
there
with
12
medical
events,
but
they're
able
to
assist
with
behavior
health
concerns
that
we
have
out
there.
They
communicate
directly
with
our
safety
communication
center.
The
did
safety
communication
center
that
sells
out
to
the
first
precinct.
H
We
do
kick
those
off
during
the
same
kind
of
days
of
the
week
and
hours
that
our
joint
beats
are
going
and
we're
going
to
try
starting
those
earlier
this
year,
but
they're
working
closely
with
street
outreach
teams
and
did
ambassador
program
down
here.
So
all
of
the
buyback
that
I
I
touched
on
here-
we
basically
use
them
as
a
resource
multiplier
and
it's
a
huge
benefit,
especially
with
the
staffing
concerns
that
we
have
right
now
on
the
mpd.
So
it's
a
huge
benefit
for
the
mpd.
E
I'd
like
to
go
forward
then,
to
commander
kingsbury
who's
here
to
talk
about
the
stadium
and
public
venues
for
large
events.
I
Good
afternoon,
everybody
thank
you
director.
As
far
as
the
stadiums
and
public
venues
go,
the
source
of
funding
comes
from
the
venue
itself,
like
u.s
bank
stadium
or
the
management
company
asm
global.
Maybe
it's
a
specific
team
like
the
timberwolves,
so
by
them
contracting
with
the
city,
they
get
services
that
are
normally
not
available
to
just
general
off-duty
jobs.
These
are
such
things,
such
as
swat
bomber
canine,
which
are
very
specialized
areas
of
the
police
department,
and
with
that
oftentimes
comes
potential,
high
liability
and
or
high
risk.
I
I
I
One
important
thing
like
inspector
peterson,
elaborated
on
was
the
fact
that
it's
a
force
multiplier
downtown
having
these
officers
come
in
voluntarily
and
work.
These
high
liability,
high
risk
positions
is
very
important
to
not
only
the
safety
of
the
venue
itself
and
those
attending
the
venue
but
downtown
in
general
and
then
the
rest
of
the
city,
because
if
something
were
to
happen
somewhere
else
in
the
city,
we
can
pull
those
resources
and
they're
there
pretty
quick
versus.
I
If
something
were
to
happen,
we
might
be
calling
in
a
lot
of
officers
from
home,
which
would
create
a
lag
time
and
a
response.
So
that's
definitely
beneficial.
One
important
thing
to
note,
especially
for
the
stadiums,
is
the
safety
act.
So
that's
act
of
congress
which
provides
certification
or
designation
for
these
large
public
venues.
I
That
really
just
shows
that
they
plan
plan,
prepare
to
detect
and
mitigate
any
terrorist
types
attack,
type
attacks
and
one
of
the
ways
they
do,
that
is
by
staffing,
these
specialty
units
to
perform
those
services
such
as
bomber
canine,
eod
detection.
Last
bullet
point
there.
It's
important
to
note
that
officers,
sergeants
or
lieutenants
can
work
this.
E
E
E
For
most,
the
work
complements
the
operations
of
the
department.
A
certain
buyback
allows
the
office
or
inspectors
and
investigators
to
target
crime
trends
or
hot
spots.
This
is
used
in
all
precincts
and
all
year,
so
to
to
kind
of
add
a
little
bit.
What
do
c4
said
about
the
jag
grants?
This
is
money
that
comes
in
through
a
grant
and
that's
put
aside
for
officers
to
say
I
need
you
know
x,
number
of
people
for
the
next
four
weekends,
because
we
have
increase
in
burglaries
and
precinct
x.
E
All
the
precincts
come
up
with
those
plans.
They
get
approval
for
those
plans,
then
that
money
is
available
for
buyback
for
those
particular
crime
suppression
areas
or
target
targeted
areas.
This,
just
in
general,
expands
the
pool
of
available
hours.
Buyback
can
allow
for
extra
patrols
or
security
for
areas
that
might
see
limited
policing
but
desire
the
additional
law
enforcement
services.
B
Thank
you,
director,
mcpherson
and
everyone
else
who
gave
us
this
presentation.
I
think
we
have
councilmember
payne
in
the
queue.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
yeah.
I
have
a
a
number
of
questions,
so
I'm
I'm
I'll
just
start
and
we'll
see
what
makes
the
most
sense.
In
terms
of
how
I
address
all
these
questions,
but
my
highest
level
question
is:
could
you
speak
more
to
the
difference
between
standard
overtime,
buyback
over
time
and
off-duty
work.
G
Yes,
director
mcpherson,
I
will
I'll
do
my
best
cherokee
council
member
payne.
Thank
you
for
the
questions.
A
standard
overtime
can
come
in
a
variety
of
ways.
It
could
be
officers
signing
up
to
work
a
shift
shortage
on
a
particular
shift
in
a
precinct.
It
could
be
an
officer
needing
to
work
late
on
a
case
that
could
be,
which
is
more.
The
more
common
would
be.
A
shift
hold
over.
That
supervisors
require
officers
to
have
to
stay
later
because
to
mitigate
a
certain,
a
certain
incident.
G
That's
going
on
or
or
you're
on
a
call
that
that
carries
you
beyond
your
normal
shift
hours
and-
and
that
would
be,
I
would
say-
standard
overtime,
it's
particular
to
the
person-
and,
I
would
say,
the
the
either
them
picking
up
an
extra
an
extra
shift
or
if
we
call
them
back
for
department
related
activities.
That's
a
that's
standard
over
time
buyback
over
time
and
also
I
I
should
place
that
standard
overtime
can
be
compulsory.
G
We
may
force
people
to
work
standard
over
time
we
may
and
and
have
and
do
call
people
back
to
duty.
We
can
tell
people
you,
you
have
to
stay
late
to
address,
departmental
needs,
so
standard
overtime
can
be
compulsory
and
we
can-
and
we
can
force
our
employees
to
to
to
utilize.
I
would
say
to
occur
that
in
the
in
the
needs
of
departmental
staffing,
buyback
overtime
is
again.
G
It's
and
also
standard
overtime
comes
out
of
the
department
budget,
where
no,
we
we
have
to
pay
for
that
in
terms
of
within
the
department
budget
buyback
over
time
again
is
this:
these
are
a
multitude
of
things
and
and
you
as
and
based
upon
a
lot
of
our
data,
a
lot
of
this
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
utilization
again
through
things
like
the
various
stadiums
and
event,
venues
that
require
a
lot
of.
G
They
require
additional
and
specific
police
duties
in
order
to
meet
their
security
requirements
to
operate
the
venue
and
but
there's
a
benefit
also
to
the
department,
because
these
are
also
high
volume
events
and
it's
good
to
have
additional
public
safety
presence
at
these
events
as
well.
The
the
benefit
to
the
city
is
that
the
venues
are
paying
for
this
and
and
they
their
contract
with
the
city,
and
then
we,
then
the
city
provides
these
services,
but
essentially
it's
not
at
the
cost
of
the
taxpayer.
G
However,
as
the
department
we,
these
are
again
are
voluntary,
so
people
are
signing
up
to
work
this,
whether
it
be
through
a
first
come
first
serve
basis
for
some
very
generalized
buyback
to
those
that
have
specific
skill
sets
that
can
obviously,
if
there's
a
buyback,
it
requires
a
bomb
sweep.
G
We
need
to
have
people
that
have
bomb
tech
certification,
do
that,
but
again
it's
voluntary
and,
as
pointed
out
by
commander
kingsbury,
that
this
is
this
affords
us
to
have
these
additional
resources
on
hand,
one
to
provide
that
presence
and
service
at
what
we
all
can
argue
is
a
place
that
needs
public
safety
presence,
but
two
in
in
regards
to
many
of
the
other
buy-back
opportunities.
These
are.
These:
are
resources
available
for
us
to
call
back
to
duty
or
in
through,
I
would
say,
the
standardized
overtime
or
compulsory.
G
We
have,
in
certain
circumstances,
compel
people
to
come
back
to
full
duty,
because
they're,
available
and
and
working
within
the
city
off-duty
work
this.
This
is
essentially
more
of
a
private
contract
between
the
officers
and
and
a
and
a
private
business
employer,
and
that
is
that
is
not
that
doesn't
go
through
the
same
process
that
buyback
does
in
terms
of
coming.
You
know
even
coming
before
the
council
to
review,
to
accept
the
buyback
funds.
G
E
No,
I
think
that
one
of
the
things-
maybe
I
would
say,
with
off
duty
as
well
as
that
you
know
we're
we're
charging
a
fixed
price
based
on
officer
the
officer
rates,
the
weighted
average
rate
in
most
cases
and
in
off
duty
again.
That
contract
is
really
between
a
business,
for
example,
and
the
officers
themselves,
so
there's
definitely
a
difference.
There.
G
Yes,
yes,
that's
a
very
good
point:
the
buyback
rate
is
is
is
very
much
predicated
on
what
what
the
the
rate
of
pay
is
and
then
a
a
very
discernible
scale
in
terms
of
fringe
and
equipment
fees.
So
it's
very,
I
would
say
transparent
in
the
sense
of
what
these
what
these
groups
are
being
charged
council.
Member
payne
did
that
answer
your
question,
sir.
J
Yeah,
that's
really
helpful.
A
follow-up
question
is
around
our
policies
around
overtime.
So,
like
this
distinction
between
compulsory
overtime
and
voluntary
overtime
is
really,
I
think
it's
a
really
meaningful
distinction.
G
Yes,
yes,
we
do,
and
there
are,
there
are
opportunities
where
we
had
we
had
when
we
received
some
fundings
and,
and
some
of
the
I
would
say,
the
funding
we
received
as
part
of
the
stimulus,
the
stimulus
of
money
and
we
utilized
it
for
for
violent
crime.
Hot
spots
details
that
was
that
was
voluntary
over
time,
and
so
we
may
designate
that
we
would
like
to.
G
We
would
like
officers
to
focus
on
a
particular
area
for
a
particular
crime
pattern,
and
we
will
post
it
and
say
you
know
we
would
like
people
to
sign
up
and
work
this
if,
if
it
doesn't
get
filled,
we're
not
going
to
force
people
into
doing
it,
there's
there's
that
kind
of
a
we
we're
we'd
like
to
keep
overtime
like
that
voluntary,
because
it
works
for
also
from
a
wellness
standpoint
and
a
staffing
standpoint.
You
have
to
be
pretty.
G
There
has
to
be
a
very,
I
would
say
justifiable
and
discernible
public
safety
need
with
before
you're
compelling
people
to
to
come
to
work
or
to
stay
late
and
and
we're
very
judicious
about
how
we
do
that.
J
That's
really
helpful
because
one
of
the
distinctions
I'm
trying
to
make
is
the
operational
needs
that
you
need
to
be
able
to
make
decisions,
tactically
day-to-day
versus
kind
of
like
the
financing
mechanism
of
those
decisions,
and
this
is
very
much
a
financing
mechanism
more
so
I
filled
in
a
technical
decision-making
framework,
but
one
of
the
things
from
a
tactical
decision
making
framework
I'm
thinking
about
is
for
overtime,
whether
buyback
or
standard
overtime,.
J
Are
you
limited
from
a
policy
perspective
to
only
resource
officers
within
the
precinct,
or
can
you
make
those
requests
across
the
entire
city
across
all
precincts?
So
if
you
know
in
ward
one,
we
have
precinct
two,
which
is
one
of
the
slower
precincts.
J
G
No,
we
are
not
limited
by
precinct
and
our
precinct
commanders
and
supervisors
do,
I
think
they
they
have
a
system
in
which
they,
if
they
have
additional
resource,
needs
that
people
can
come
in
and
work.
They
offer
it
in-house
within
the
precinct
first
for
a
for
a
a
period
of
time
and
then,
if
it
doesn't
get
satisfied
with
an
in-house
ask
they
release
it
city-wide
for
for
other
other
people
within
the
other
precincts
or
even
in
investigative
units.
If
they
choose
to
to
take
that
on
the
thought
process
being.
G
Obviously
the
people
that
work,
the
neighborhoods
know
the
neighborhoods
the
best
and
would
probably
be
the
best
suited
to
fill
those
shifts.
However,
it
is
offered
for
for
everybody
and
and
buy
back
again
in
the
same
manner,
by
contract.
We
have
to
make
sure
it's
being
done
in
an
equitable
and
fair
manner,
so
it
is
open
for
everybody
unless
there
are
specific
skill
sets
that
are
required
to
fulfill
that
that
buyback
contract.
J
And
so,
when
again,
very
much
understand
various
hot
spots
in
the
city,
especially
over
the
last
couple
years.
Very
much
understand
that
you
understand
the
unique
circumstances
of
some
of
the
larger
events
that
we
hopefully
will
be
returning
to
with
some
of
our
mandates.
Shifting
and
you
know,
coveted
responsible,
allowing
people
to
gather
again.
How
much
does
the
source
of
the
funding
play
into
your
decision
making
when
it
comes
to
making
those
tactical
decisions
on
where
you
want
to
allocate
resources.
J
If
that
question
makes
sense,
like
is
it
in
your
mind
that
I
need
to
like
tap
into
buyback
dollars
for
this
overtime,
or
I
need
to
use
a
standard
over
time
and
it's
a
voluntary
standard
over
time
after
the
fact
decision,
I.
G
Think
that's
it's
that's
part
of
the
decision,
but
that
would
be
in
a
conversation
that
I
have
with
director
mcpherson
as
to
what
the
best
source
of
the
funds,
what
is
the
best,
the
best
mechanism
to
utilize
in
order
to
effectuate
what
we're
looking
to
have,
I
would
say,
the
source
of
the
funding
generally,
if
there's
a
discernible
need
and-
and
I
I,
when
I
come
to
director
mcpherson
with
a
discernible
need
for
for
additional
public
safety,
focus,
we
collaborate
and
come
up
with
what
is
the
best
source
of
that
and
a
director
if
there,
if
you'd
like
to
chime
in
on
that.
E
Yeah,
I
guess
just
one
comment
to
make
on
that
council
member-
is
that
the
source
of
the
funding
is
because
we
want
to
analyze
what
our
I
guess.
What
I
would
say
is
our
our
regular
overtime
versus
these
hot
spots.
I
will
try
to
use
things
like
grant
funds
to
cover
those
hot
spot
areas.
Just
because
then
I
can
segregate
those.
We
can
pull
those
out
and
say
exactly
what
that's
being
used
for.
J
E
When
it's
a
when
it's
a
special
and
dc
force
jump
in,
I
didn't
mean
to,
I
didn't
mean
to
cut
you
off
or
anything,
but
when
it
when
it's
a
special
request
like
that,
like
if
an
officer
comes
to
me
or
I'm
sorry,
an
inspector
comes
to
dc
force
and
myself
and
says
you
know
they
want
to
have
a
unit
or
group
that
does
three
weekends
in
a
row
to
address
some
particular
problem.
That's
done
up
front.
G
Yeah
that
way,
because
in
in
these
regards,
then
a
special
overtime
code
will
be
set
up
for
that
particular
task.
It
will
have
a
designated
approver
and
will
have
a
start
date
and
end
date
in
some
regards.
So
as
director
mcpherson
described
it's
easily
parsed
out
and
when
it
comes
to.
Where
did
that
money
go
in
for
what
purpose.
J
And
then
are
there
currently
budget
constraints
for
us
using
standard
overtime,
voluntary
standard
overtime
to
do
some
of
those
more
strategic
deployments
right
now,
and
we
need
this
buyback
dollars
to
to
make
up
a
budget
shortfall
or
is
the
buy
back
dollars
kind
of
a
nice
to
have
bonus?
On
top
of
our
our
current.
E
So
I,
if
you
don't
mind,
I'd,
love
to
answer
that
question.
So
if
you've
looked
at
and
yeah,
I
see
this
every
day
right.
So,
but
if
you
look
at
our
overtime
dollars
over
the
last
four
or
five
years,
you'll
notice
that
there's
been
a
significant
increase
in
overtime.
A
lot
of
that
over
the
last
couple
of
years
is
obviously
because
of
events
that
have
played
out
as
well
as
just
our
staffing
numbers,
but
our
overtime
for
2021
is
just
under
12
million
dollars.
E
It's
never
been
that
high
before
and
that's
just
our
regular.
You
know
this
is
what
we
need
to
be
able
to
do
the
mission
of
the
department.
E
So
from
that
standpoint,
these
other
items
allow
us
to
address
other
things
that
are
important
to
us,
but
are
not
necessarily
just
meeting
the
needs
or
basic
needs
of
public
safety
within
the
the
city
itself.
E
So
I
think
a
lot
of
things
you
know
we
would
not
be
able
to
do
some
of
the
things
that
we
do
right
now
without
those
extra
dollars.
Currently
now,
if
we,
our
staffing,
was
back
to
numbers,
you
know
better
numbers
and
things
that
may
change
in
the
future.
But
I
can't
recall
a
time
since
I've
been
here
where
we've
had
an
abundance
of
overtime
dollars
to
do
the
work.
G
G
It's
the
a
lot
of
the
the
overtime
has
been
to
address
circumstances
of
reduced
staffing
and
staffing
shortage,
but
also
over
the
last
two
years
of
of
you
know,
operating
a
24
7
organization
during
the
during
the
pandemic,
and
when,
when
you
would
see,
when
cases
of
covet
would
be
very
high
in
the
community,
they
were
very
high
amongst
our
workforce,
and
it
was
not
unheard
of
to
get
dozens
of
notifications
a
day
of
staff
that
essentially
could
not
come
to
work
for
10
days.
And
you
would.
G
You
would
be
no
way
to
prepare
for
that.
And
so
we
would
have
to
lean
a
lot
on
on
over
time
to
help
to
help
try
to
maintain.
You
know
safe
staffing
levels
in
light
of
kind
of
a
a
chaotic,
a
situation
where
you
don't
really
know
what
your
staffing
is
going
to
be.
J
Yeah,
no,
I
that
definitely
resonates
with
me,
and
I
can
only
imagine
given
the
staffing
realities,
how
much
we
need
to
utilize
over
time.
Are
there
restrictions
on
how
we
can
use
over
time
in
our
current
policies
that
are
barrier
to
be
to
meeting
those
needs.
G
Not
that
I'm
aware
of
a
director-
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
sort
of
I'm
not
aware
of,
I
mean
over
time.
I
think
that
I
would
have
to.
I
would
have
to
do
a
deep
dive
into
that,
but
not
that
I'm
overtly
aware
of.
E
Yeah,
I
I
would
agree,
I
don't
think
there
are
either,
but
I
guess
I've
never
really
been
asked
that
question
in
that
way.
So
I
would
have
to
think
about
that.
A
little
bit
too.
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
to
point
out
also
that
some
of
the
grant
work
that
we
do,
I
think,
is
while
it's
not
our
daily
operations.
It's
obviously
very
important
and
important
for
to
the
city
as
well.
E
We
have
grants
that
provide
extra
hours
for
child
exploitation
for
human
trafficking.
You
know
some
really
extremely
important
aspects
of
law
enforcement
and
for
city
and
city
safety
and
security,
those
dollars
and
and
that
work
may
not
be
available
very
readily
without
the
support
of
the
federal
and
state
funding
that
we
get
the
extra
federal
and
state
funding
that
we
get.
J
Yeah,
I
think
I
I
this
presentation
was
really
helpful
for
me,
because
I'd
certainly
make
a
distinction
between
federal
grant
dollars
and
private
organizations
making.
You
know
additional
requests
for
patrols,
and
I'm
I'm
trying
to
make
that
distinction,
because
the
the
buy-back
program
seems
to
be
the
financial
mechanism
by
which
we
accept
federal
dollars
to
do
some
of
this
supporting
work.
J
So
that
part
I'm
making
it
certainly
a
distinction
between
one
of
the
questions
that
I
had
when
the
last
time
we
had
a
buyback
program
come
up
in
front
of
this
body
was
around
officer
burnout
and
I
was
able
to,
and
I
just
wanted
to
do
more
homework
and
I
was
able
to
come
across
a
2019
audit
around
our
off-duty
time
and
in
that
report
I
did
see
that
we
do
limit
the
total
number
of
hours
that
an
offer
officer
can
work
in
a
seven
day
period.
J
I
think
that's
at
64
hours,
but
we
don't
restrict
the
amount
of
hours
you
can
work
in
a
day,
so
you
can
all
work
work
up
to
24
hours
in
a
day
which
there's
no
more
hours
left
in
a
day
to
work,
and
you
don't
there's
no
requirement
around
a
rest
period
between
those
hours
and
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
one
of
the
takeaways
from
that
audit
was
around
our
capacity
to
track
off-duty
hours
and
have
oversight
and
compliance
around
some
of
those
hours
worked
and
I'm
wondering
could
it
are
there
any
updates
from
the
mo
the
you
know,
the
audits
from
2019
the
before
times
before
you
know
covid
before
the
civil
unrest
before
you
know
the
the
huge
changes
in
our
staffing
levels
and
there
were
some
pretty
specific
recommendations
within
the
audit
around
improving
our
technology,
around
hours,
tracking
having
stronger
requirements
around
off-duty
work
requirements
and
the
compliance
to
those
requirements.
J
E
I'll,
be
a
council
member
I'll
be
happy
to
jump
in
a
little
bit,
but
I
will
probably
need
some
some
assistance
from
the
chiefs,
who
are
on
the
call
right
now
we
you're
right.
It
was
a
different
day
and
age.
A
few
years
ago,
in
2019
or
2020,
we
started
a
project.
We
have
a
proprietary
software
for
scheduling,
called
workforce
director
and
we
started
a
project
to
convert
that
to
another
system.
The
reason
being
is
that
it
was
out
of
date,
it's
all
about
a
20
year
old,
again
proprietary
software
program.
E
It
was
no
longer
upgraded
or
updated,
it
wasn't
supported
and
it
was
going
to
cost
millions
of
dollars
to
actually
update
at
that
point,
so
that
was
one
of
the
projects
for
2020.
Unfortunately,
with
the
pandemic,
that
was
one
of
the
items
that
was
cut
or
deferred.
I
should
say
that
was
put
back
in
the
budget
for
2022,
so
this
is
a
long
way
of
saying
that
we
really
don't
have
the
system
capacity
right
now
or
capability
for
off-duty
work
to
track
it.
However,
we
are
looking
at
software
to
purchase
specifically
for
off-duty.
E
We've
had
some
vendors
who
have
come
in
we're
in
the
process
right
now
of
writing
an
rfp
which
I
would
assume
would
be
out
probably
in
I'd,
say
three
weeks
something
around
that
time
period,
and
so
we
are
trying
to
address
the
ability
of
keeping
track
in
a
holistic
manner
of
the
number
of
hours
that
officers
are
working.
We
do
not
yet
have
that
capability
of
doing
that.
J
But
I
guess
the
follow-up
question
is
that
if
they
are
doing
either
standard
overtime
or
buyback
over
time,
we
we
are
tracking
those
hours.
That
is
correct.
G
No,
nothing,
nothing
substantial
beyond
what
you
said
robin.
I
know
the
the
interim
chief
wanted
people
to
know
that
she
is.
She
is
working
on
this
and
it
is
in
progress.
We
may
have
to
have
an
update
on
that
at
a
later
time.
K
Thank
you,
chair
vital.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions
regarding
you
know,
and
this
is
this
is
the
ongoing
conversation
I
mean.
We
just
had
this
last
week
around
ovp
of
just
crystallizing,
more
transparency
about
the
roles
of
of
all
of
our
public
safety
workers,
because
often
that
can
be
misinterpreted
by
the
public
and
one
aspect.
That's
kind
of
showing
up
in
this
conversation
is
around
when
officers
are
showing
up
on
an
off-duty
job
and
then
also
another
the
buy-back
side.
K
So
when
officers
are
showing
up
on
the
off-duty
job,
you
know
they're
bringing
their
uniform
the
gun,
often
a
squad
car
paid
for
by
minneapolis.
You
know,
taxpayers
and
the
public
sees
these
officers
in
uniforms
and
will
likely
assume
that
they're
on
duty,
but
if
they're
a
part
of
this
buy
back
program
or
if
they're
being
contracted
with
you
know
privately
with
the
business.
K
Yeah,
let
me
rephrase,
because
I
mean
even
in
the
buyback,
even
though
it's
private
organizations-
that's
you,
know,
contracting
these
services.
These
are
again
the
the
the
taxpayer
dollars
again
the
perception
of
officers
showing
up
either
in
uniform.
Are
they
wearing
different
uniforms?
Are
they
not
bringing
their
uniforms
when
they're
performing
these
buy-back?
You
know
services.
E
No
they're
wearing
their
uniforms
and
we
are
charging
the
venues
or
the
organization
for
the
cost
of
equipment.
That's
built
into
the
charge.
K
Okay-
and
I
think
some
of
this
too,
is
just
also
clarity
of-
why
aren't
private
contracts
like
these
buy
back?
You
know
contracts.
Why
are
those
not
coming
through
the
council
to
have
a
public
and
transparent
process.
F
K
That
I
think
I
think
creating
for
me,
because
we've
had
a
the
earlier
part
of
the
conversations
around
some
of
the
lack
of
clarity
of
when
officers
are
performing
off-duty
work.
Is
there
a
process
that
guides
that
that
is
different
than
the
buy-back,
because
from
the
public,
if
you're
off
duty
and
you're,
showing
up
in
uniform,
that's
not
known
that
you're
off
duty
through
the
buy
back
we're.
Thank
you
for
providing
that
clarifying.
You
know
response
that
we're
charging
that.
K
F
I'll
do
my
best,
so
if
someone
is
just
to
address
the
last
thing
you
had
mentioned,
if
someone
is
in
a
uniform
and
they're
involved
in
an
action
that
falls
under
question,
that
case
will
be
handled
by
internal
affairs,
it
doesn't
matter
what
that
officer
is
doing,
whether
they're
working
buyback,
whether
working
their
regular
assignment
regardless
it's
going
to
be
handled
through
on
the
internal
person
opcr
process.
F
F
So
some
of
the
buyback
is
really
focused
on
people
that
have
a
specific
skill
set
say,
for
example,
someone
that
has
a
canine
that
is
a
bomb
detector
dog,
and
so
they
are
working
a
very
specific
assignment
that
I
couldn't
work.
That
assignment,
because
I
don't
have
that
skill
set.
I
haven't
gone
through
that
training,
but
an
officer
that
is
currently
in
the
canine
unit
and
has
the
bomb
detector
dog
could
do
that
work.
So
it's
sometimes
very
dependent
on
skill
set
other
times,
as
dc
force
had
explained
and
inspector
peterson.
F
It
could
be
a
situation
where
there's
buyback
availa
available
because
there's
maybe
there's
a
need
in
the
precinct.
There's
the
jag
money
available.
There's
enhanced
patrol
efforts
in
a
specific
geographic
area
where
they're
experiencing
a
spike
in
a
criminal
activity
where
that
additional
buy-back
dollars
would
help
support
having
another
officer
on
patrol
in
that
area
to
address
that
specific
crime.
So
that
does
that
help
a
little
bit
with
that
piece
of
it.
K
Yeah,
I
think
you
know
overall
what
I'm
hearing
here.
I
know
this
presentation
today
was
to
highlight
you
know
the
buy
back
program,
but
I
also
know
with
some
of
the
comments
raised
by
councilmember
payne
that
there's
also
you
know,
how
are
we
comparing
the
process
or
around
the
buy-back
to
off-duty
police
work
and,
like
I
know,
noted
again
from
the
public
eyes?
You
know
you
just
see
an
officer
in
uniform.
K
You
don't
know
that
they're
doing
off-duty
work
or
that
they're
being
contracted
through
this
external
officer,
so
creating
more
transparency
around
that
and
creating
more
of
you
know
through
that
transparency
showing
the
distinctions
between
when
officers
are
showing
up
and
off
duty
and
when
they're
showing
up
performing.
You
know
the
specific
functions
of
the
buyback,
and
I
think,
if
anything,
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
have
a
presentation
on
the
off-duty
contracts
before
you
know,
phs
to
just
get
a
little
bit
more
clarity
about
that.
K
So
I
totally
get
that
part.
I
would
like
to
you
know:
have
that
presentation
done
in
the
future.
I
can
segue
to
the
next
question
that
I
had.
I
could.
F
Please
add
one
thing:
if
anybody
out
there
sees
someone
just
like
this
in
a
uniform,
they're
always
available
to
help
community,
it
doesn't
matter
if
they're
working
buy
back
or
they're
working
an
off-duty
job
or
they're
out
on
patrol.
If
you
see
a
uniform,
you
can
certainly
ask
them
for
help
and
they'll
be
more
than
happy
to
assist.
K
Thank
you
director.
If
they're
saying.
Oh
sorry,
not
my
person,
I'm
sorry
so
next
question
that
was
coming
up
for
me
is
around
the
the
staffing
concerns.
You
know
we've
heard.
Of
course
you
know
you
all
shared
that
today,
mpd
is
short
staff
and
last
month
this
committee
also
received
the
mpd
staffing
study,
and
you
know
wanting
to
highlight
just
based
off
of
that
report
that
you
know
under
the
current
model
of
ship
assignments.
K
That
report
says
that
the
mpd
current
staffing
levels
is
it's
been
identified
as
appropriate.
So,
under
this
assumption
you
know
that
patrol
officers
are
expected
to
spend
half
of
their
time
responding
to
calls
for
service,
I'm
still
a
little
confused
of
how
the
buy
back.
You
know,
programs
actually
adds
additional
capacity
to
our
staff.
It
seems
like
you're,
drawn
from
the
same
pool
of
already
like
constrained
tired
staff
of
a
short
staff,
so
I'm
also
very
much
interested
in.
How
does
this
impact?
K
You
know
the
widening
racial
inequities
around
how
we're
providing
public
safety
services.
So
I
also
noted
that
there
was
not
a
reia
on
this
rca,
so
I
would
love
to
know
has
have
you
all
done
analysis
of
the
racial
impacts
of
this
model.
E
So
this
is
robin
councilmember
thanks
for
the
question,
so
I'm
not.
If
I've
missed
something
like.
Let
me
know
the
racial
equity.
There
is
actually
one
in
the
the
three
that
were
rcas
that
were
put
in
for
this
particular
council.
I
believe
it
was
the
one
on
one
of
the
smg
ones,
and
the
reason
that
was
done
is
because
it
was
not
part
of
the
budget.
It's
it
was
extra
or
extra
money.
E
Our
buyback
is
part
of
the.
The
budget
was
approved
through
the
budget
process,
so
that
was
included
within
the
equity
analysis
that
was
done
through
the
budget
process,
so
and
even
the
smg
ones
were
all
part
of
the
2022
budget
as
they've
been
in
past
years,
but
the
dollar
amounts
are
higher,
because
now
these
venues
are
thinking
that,
because
of
the
end
of
the
pandemic,
hopefully
that
those
numbers
will
will
increase.
So
that
has
been
done.
E
I
think
when
I
talk
about
the
the
increase
in
the
pool
and
inspector
peterson
may
have
more
to
talk
about
this
since
he's
out
in
the
precincts
themselves,
but
the
increase
is
because
these
officers
would
not
be
compelled
to
work
this
overtime.
E
E
K
K
Nope,
okay,
I
will
ask
my
next
question:
can
you
describe
the
contracting
vetting
process
that
is
used
for
organizations
outside
of
the
sports
sporting
events
that
you
all
identify?
You
know
that
participate
in
this
program.
You
know
how
does
it
compare
to
the
process
that
we
use
around
rfps.
E
So
the
rfps
that
the
police
department
uses
are
primarily
for
expenses
for
something
that
we're
trying
to
buy
so
or
or
contract
with
something
that
is
provided
to
us
where
these
are
the
opposite.
These
are
places
coming
to
us
and
saying
we
would
like
to
contract
with
you,
so
it
doesn't
go
through
an
rfp
process.
E
What
it
does
do
is
if
there
is
a
group
that
is
interested
in
having
the
police
department,
provide
buyback
or
security
services
safety
services
they
will
normally-
and
this
is
typical-
will
go
to
an
officer
or
the
inspector
of
the
precinct
and
ask
for
buyback.
They
will
they
will,
I
guess,
show
them
what
they're
looking
for
work
with
the
inspector.
The
inspector
then
would
approve
it.
The
inspector
would
then
work
with
the
deputy
chief
and
the
deputy
chief
would
come
to
my
group
and
say
I
approve
this.
E
We
want
to
do
this,
then
we
would
do
the
contracting.
I
would
do
the
contracting
side
of
it.
K
Also,
I
just
wanted
to
know
if
there
was
and
that
you've
laid,
that
out
like
a
vetting
process
in
place,
even
when
the
request
is
coming
through
to
mpd
just
based
off
of
what
is
in
included
in
that
request.
E
G
I've
seen
limited
numbers
of
these
come
through.
Most
of
the
the
buyback
contracts
in
my
experience
have
already
been
well
established
inspector
anything
that
that
you
have
seen
from
from
one
from
one
team.
H
No,
I
was
going
to
add
the
same
thing
chief.
If
you
look
at
the
list
that
director
mcpherson
has
provided
the
vast
majority
of
these
buyback
programs
that
are
on
here,
they've
been
established
for
quite
some
time.
I've
been
on
the
apartment
for
20
26
years
now,
and
I
can
remember
buyback
being
in
existence
when,
when
I
was
a
young
officer,
so
it
has
been
around
for
a
while
and
like
I
said,
if
I
look
through
this
list,
virtually
all
of
them
on
here
have
been
in
existence
for
quite
some
time.
H
I
personally
in
my
almost
two
and
a
half
years
as
an
inspector,
have
not
dealt
with
gaining
approval
for
a
new
buy
back
program.
K
Echo
there
and,
of
course
I
know
we're
having
a
continuous
conversation
around
accountability,
especially
in
relates
to
public
safety
workers
and
when
they
engage
in
misconduct,
was
the
process
for
that.
So
just
highlighting
kind
of
earlier
similar
to
the
off-duty
work.
If
an
officer
engages
in
misconduct
while
on
a
buyback
shift,
are
they
then
excluded
from
future
buyback
contracts?.
G
I
would
answer
on
that.
I
mean,
I
think
that
there
has
been
experience
in
the
inspectors,
have
the
capacity
to
exclude
people
from
from
working
discretionary
overtime
depending
upon.
If
there's
allegations
or
or
I
would
say,
substantiated
misconduct.
G
However,
all
allegations
of
misconduct
would
go
through
the
traditional
vetting
process,
either
through
opcr
internal
affairs,
as
as
it
would.
If
someone
was
on
duty.
L
L
You
know
essentially
the
public's
take
when
I'm
at
neighborhood
meetings
is
saying
you
know.
If
there
are
officers
to
buy
back,
then
why
aren't
we,
the
city,
buying
them
back
for
more
proactive
policing
and
hot
spots
in
areas
of
the
greatest
need?
I
think
the
answer
is.
We
are
already
doing
that.
But
could
you
just
help
me
to
smooth
that
out
and
add
some
context
around
it,
because
I
think
there's
great
confusion
in
the
community
about
these
buyback
programs
still.
E
E
The
the
primary
funding
within
buyback
for
hot
spots
is
through
the
jag
grants,
and
then
we
also
have
some
neighborhood
revitalization
program
funding
that
is
also
being
used
for
buyback
again,
though,
the
the
inspectors
clearly
have
the
discretion
to
use
regular
time
to
go
to
use
that
for
hot
spots
as
well.
This
just
provides
us
additional
funding
additional
monies
to
do
that.
Much
more.
H
Yeah-
and
I
I
can
jump
in
here
as
well,
so
the
I
mean
one
of
the
the
differences
is
that
with
off
duty
and
buy
back.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
attract
officers
who
are
are
essentially
off
duty
rather
than
spending
time
at
home,
with
families
and
and
doing
things
of
their
own
personal
interest,
to
get
them
to
come
into
the
city
to
put
on
the
uniform
and
anytime
that
they
are
in
this
uniform.
They
are
held
to
all
of
the
standards
of
our
policies
and
procedures.
H
It
doesn't
matter
whether
off
duty,
working
buyback,
regular
overtime
or
on
duty
any
time
they're
putting
this
uniform
on.
They
are
held
to
those
standards
and
then,
if
there
is
disciplinary
issues
like
dc4,
said
those
work
through
internal
affairs,
opcr
and
other
avenues.
But
anyway
I
look
at
it.
If
I
can
get
an
officer
into
the
city
to
be
working
off
duty,
if
I
can
get
them
into
the
city
to
be
working
buyback,
if
I
can
get
them
into
the
city
to
work,
just
the
standard
overtime
shifts
that
we
put
out
there.
H
It's
a
benefit
for
me
as
a
precinct
inspector
because
of
our
our
current
staffing
levels.
In
my
opinion,
that
staffing
study
you
know,
needs
to
be
challenged
because
I
feel
that
we're
drastically
understaffed.
As
a
pre-state
inspector,
I
am
being
drug
to
meeting
to
meeting
to
meeting
people
are
concerned
about
response
times,
concern
about
not
seeing
cops.
I
personally
downtown
I've
lost
community
response
team
members,
there's
three
precincts
within
the
city
that
don't
have
a
cert
teams.
H
I
lost
my
day,
beat
I
used
to
have
16
officers
in
a
sergeant
on
a
day,
beat
that
provided
a
foot
beat
presence
in
in
the
core
of
downtown
they're
gone,
so
I'm
putting
out
overtime
and
starting
it
earlier
and
earlier
every
year
because
of
the
staffing
shortages
to
provide
a
presence
on
nicolette
mall
on
hennepin
and
other
areas
of
downtown,
and
some
of
that
is
on
just
straight
over
time,
we're
putting
out
over
time
to
try
to
get
replacement
officers
for
those
that
are
that
are
missing
other.
H
You
know
other
events,
whether
it's
you
know
football
games,
baseball
games,
winter
classic
whatever
have
you
that
stuff
is
attracting
officers
to
come
in
and
buy
back
and
then
there's
plenty
of
venues
in
downtown
where
officers
are
coming
in
whether
it's
working
directly
at
target
walgreens,
you
know
different
different
bars
and
beats
and
stuff
in
the
downtown.
There
were
options
of
working
off
duty
anytime.
H
Those
offices
are
in
here
we
do
have
the
ability,
if
a
major
incident,
pops
off
to
put
them
on
duty
and
use
utilize,
those
resources
and
personnel
as
we
need
to
to
deal
with
any
number
of
incidents
that
are
that
arise.
So
I
hope
that
information
is
along
the
lines
of
what
you're
looking
for.
D
Thank
you,
chair
vita.
I
just
want
to
echo
for
the
public
record
that
I
did
to
read
the
staff
report
and
what
that
report
told
me
is
not
only
are
we
short
patrol
officers
we're
a
short
investigators,
probably
a
hundred.
We
do
not
have
a
traffic
unit,
we
do
not
have
b
cops.
We
do
not
have
any
community
policing
efforts.
No
more
bike
cops
for
kids.
So,
depending
on
how
you
read
that
report,
you
have
a
difference
of
opinion.
My
opinion
is
that
we
are
in
a
crisis
with
our
staffing.
M
Thank
you
and
yeah.
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
not
reversing
course
on.
You
know
taking
seriously
data-driven
approaches
to
to
how
we
understand
the
enterprise.
I
think
the
staffing
study
is
a
data-driven
approach
that
should
be
studied
and
respected
and
and
certainly
there's
a
lot
of
information
in
there.
I
I,
I
think,
yeah
you
can
cherry-pick
the
information
if
you
wanted
to,
but
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
full
report
really
complex
and
nuanced.
I
think
I
think
people
should
should
dive
into.
M
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
think
that
the
the
councilmember
payne
raised
a
question
back
when
we
were
discussing
this
issue
some
some
cycles
ago
around,
and
this
isn't
necessarily
for
the
police
department
staff,
but
around
whether
or
not
we
offer
a
similar
service
like
this
in
other
realms
of
the
city.
M
Or
is
this
incongruent
with
how
we
treat
other
departments
and-
and
I
think
it's
a
good
question
and
I
think
it's
it's
good
to
know
how
the
program
works
and-
and
it's
good
to
have
our
professional
staff
on
here
to
come
and
explain
to
us
how
the
program
works.
But
I
still
think
that
that
larger
question
that
that
question
of
zooming
out
and
asking
you
know
what
similar
in
what
similar
ways
does
our
institution
function
like
this
elsewhere
is
still
a
really
good
question.
M
I
don't
have
you
know,
answers
to
that,
and
I
wasn't
expecting
this
presentation
to
answer
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
lift
that
up,
as
as
as
as
a
really
compelling
sort
of
good
governance
discussion,
you
know
topic
that
councilmember
payne
brought
up.
Do
we
allow
the
rest
of
the
institution
to
function
in
this
way,
or
is
this
just
a
program
that
is
so
critically
unique
to
the
police
department?
M
I
think
it's
a
good
question,
and-
and
I
would
love
for
us
to
you-
know-
have
an
answer
to
that
question
at
some
point,
obviously
that
that
starts
with
gaining
an
understanding
of
the
bypass
buyback
program
itself.
So
just
wanted
to
note
that
for
the
record,
thank
you.
J
Yeah,
I
would
just
like
to
lift
up
what
inspector
peterson
peterson
was
raising
around
there's
just
a
need
in
the
city,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
as
policy
makers,
that
you
have
the
resources
necessary
to
meet
that
need,
and
that's
just
a
broad
statement,
and
I
think
that
we
should
certainly
use
the
staffing
study
in
that
data-driven
approach
to
make
sure
that
we're
validating
that
need
from
a
data-driven
perspective.
J
But
I
think
that
that
perspective
on
the
ground
is
really
important,
and
I
just
want
to
lift
up
what
vice
president
palmisano
had
to
say
of.
I
believe
it's
our
job
as
policy
makers
and
as
as
the
folks
who
need
to
approve
the
budget
that
you
have
the
resources.
You
need
to
deliver
the
safety
that
we
want
for
our
community
and
I'm
making
that
as
a
distinction
from
this
buyback
program.
J
I
heard
today
that
we
don't
have
restrictions
on
overtime,
and
so,
if
we
need
to
get
some
more
folks
on
the
ground
we
should
be.
I
think
we
should
be
using
city
dollars
to
do
that,
and
I
think
that
we
should
be
having
an
honest
conversation
with
our
constituents
about
where
their
tax
dollars
are
going
and
what
services
they're
delivering
and
that
if
our
constituents
want
more
uniformed
officers,
we
should
be
staffing
accordingly
with
our
tax
dollars
and
taxing
accordingly.
B
B
K
Thank
you,
my
apologies.
I
was
going
through
windows
trying
to
get
to
the
check.
Thank
you
so
much
chair
vital.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
questions
about
five.
Could
one
of
our
staff?
That's
on
the
call,
explain
the
relationship
between
the
city,
the
stadium
and
the
private
contractors?
Basically,
why?
Why
is
u.s
bank
contracting
with
a
private
company
through
the
city
like?
Is
there
a
law
that
does
not
allow
them
to
just
contract
with
these
directly
with
these,
these
private
companies,
without
the
city
as
an
intermediary.
E
Committee,
chair,
council
member,
so
this
contract
is
actually
with
between
the
police
department
or
the
city,
and
a
company
called
smg.
Smg
is
the
actual
manager
of
the
venue
and
for
the
vikings,
so
they
are
responsible
for
the
safety
and
security
and
for
running
the
safety
and
security,
which
is
why
we
contract
with
them.
K
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
and
just
to
follow
up
a
question.
Are
the
officers
that's
going
to
be,
you
know
providing
services?
Are
they
smg
employees
or
do
they
have
a
relationship
with
mpd.
D
D
L
B
N
Madam
chair,
that's
that's
correct.
The
the
motion
fails
so
at
this
point
a
new
motion
would
be
in
order
in
order
to
dispense
with
the
item.
So
someone
could
move
to
send
the
item
forward
without
recommendation,
move
to
recommend
denial
of
the
item
or
potentially
make
a
different
motion
altogether.
L
D
D
D
B
B
Or
I'm
getting
a
different
idea
of
potentially
just
forwarding
five,
six
and
seven
without
recommendation.