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A
Good
afternoon,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
regular
meeting
of
the
City
Planning
Commission
today
is
Monday
May
22nd.
My
name
is
Alyssa
Olson
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Planning
Commission,
the
city
will
be
recording
and
posting
this
meeting
to
the
city's
website
and
YouTube
channel
channel
as
a
means
of
increasing
Public,
Access
and
transparency.
This
meeting
is
public
and
subject
to
the
Minnesota
open
meeting
law.
At
this
time,
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
please
call
the
roll
to
verify
a
quorum.
B
A
All
right
we
have
a
quorum
so
with
that
we'll
proceed
to
the
agenda,
a
copy
of
which
was
posted
for
Public
public
access
to
the
city's
legislative
information
management
system,
which
is
available
at
limbs.nn.gov,
as
well
as
on
the
counter
by
the
clerk.
Over
there.
We
will
begin
with
acceptance
of
the
minutes
from
May
22nd
2023.
A
A
Is
that
what
you
have
I'm,
just
I'm
on
the
script
that
in
that?
Oh,
my
apologies,
all
right,
we
will
begin
with
acceptance
of
the
minutes
from
May,
8th
and
May.
11Th
could
I
have
a
motion
to
accept
those
minutes.
Those
approval
their
second.
C
A
A
All
right
that
motion
passes
the
minutes
are
adopted.
Our
next
order
of
business
is
to
organize
the
public
hearing
agenda.
I'll
read
through
the
agenda
items
and
numbers
and
state
whether
they're
slated
for
consent
or
discussion
consent
items
will
be
passed
by
the
board
without
discussion,
we'll
be
adopting
the
staff
recommendation
on
those
items.
A
Discussion
items
will
be
discussed
by
the
board
and
we'll
take
public
testimony
before
deliberating
on
those.
So
if
you
agree
with
staff
recommendation,
you
don't
need
to
do
anything
and
we'll
adopt
staff
recommendation.
If
you
disagree
with
the
staff
recommendation,
you
can
indicate
that
you
would
like
to
speak
on
the
item
by
just
raising
your
hand
and
we'll
put
that
item
on
our
discussion
agenda.
A
A
A
Seeing
none
we'll
put
item
number
four
on
consent.
Item
number
five
is
10
11
and
1025
Portland
Ave.
We
will
be
discussing
this
item
so
put
item
number
five
on
discussion
and
item
number.
Six
is
2800-2804
2808
and
2812
27th
Avenue
South
staff
is
recommending
this
item
for
consent.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
against
staff?
Recommendation
for
item
number?
Six
right,
we'll
put
item
number
six
on
our
discussion
agenda.
C
A
A
All
right
that
motion
passes
and
the
agenda
has
been
adopted.
We
will
handle
our
public
hearing
agenda
in
this
order.
First
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
for
our
consent
items
and
we'll
approve
those
items.
After
we've
dealt
with
those
items,
we
can
proceed
to
our
two
discussion
items
so
now,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
consent
item,
which
is
item
number
four.
A
A
The
consent
agenda
do
I.
Have
a
motion
to
adopt
item
number
four.
D
A
Moved
all
right,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second.
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
all
opposed
any
abstentions,
all
right
that
motion
passes.
So,
if
you're
here
for
item
number
four,
that
item
has
been
approved.
A
All
right,
we'll
now
move
on
to
our
two
discussion
items.
We
will
take
public
testimony
deliberate
on
and
then
make
decision
on
these
items
after
the
public.
Testimony
has
been
heard
for
each
discussion.
Item
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
for
that
item.
Once
I
close
the
public
hearing
for
an
item,
no
additional
public
testimony
can
be
taken.
However,
staff
may
still
be
asked
to
address
board
questions
and
again
we'll
be
limiting
public
comments
to
two
minutes.
A
E
So
this
subject
site
is
10
11,
10
25,
Portland
Avenue,
and
this
is
a
project
that
you've
seen
before
the
Planning
Commission.
Just
a
few
months
ago,
in
February,
you
approved
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
Board
and
Care
home
to
allow
the
conversion
of
10
of
their
bedrooms
to
allow
for
a
clinically
monitored
withdrawal,
Management
Facility.
E
So
so
they're
they
are
proposing
a
site
plan.
Oh
sorry,
let
me
just
show
you
this.
This
is
the
area
where
the
trash
bins
are
facing.
Grant
Street.
The
site
plan
here
shows
that
they
would
be
improving
upon
existing
site
conditions.
They
would
have
an
enclosure
on
the
three
sides
and
they'd
tuck,
one
of
them
back
so
it'd
be
behind
the
alley,
but
it
would
still
be
open
to
Grant
Street
to
allow
the
trash
hauler
to
enter
from
that
side.
E
Staff
is
recommending
denial
of
the
variance
application
to
reduce
the
screening
requirements
for
the
trash
receptacles.
We
wish
to
see
it
fully
enclosed
on
all
four
sides
and
the
findings
are
found
in
your
packets.
In
summary,
there
are
other
options
available
to
accommodate
the
garbage.
Haulers
maneuvering
needs
considering
the
large
size
of
the
site,
because
it
does
include
that
surface
parking
area
and
it
also
does
not
meet
the
intent
of
the
ordinance.
E
A
Any
questions,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mailing
Commissioners,
any
questions
for
staff
I'm,
not
seeing
any.
Thank
you
so
now
we
will
open
the
public
hearing
as
the
applicant
here
to
speak
on
this
item.
A
You
can
come
forward
now
and
go
ahead.
F
Hi
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
Caroline
hood
and
I'm
president
and
CEO
of
RS
Eden.
As
a
staff
indicated
in
February,
this
commission
approved
the
conditional
use
permit
for
the
clinically
monitor
withdrawal
for
our
59
bed
residential
facility.
The
need
for
the
withdrawal
management
programs
in
Minneapolis
and
across
the
nation
is
Dyer.
Members
of
our
community
are
overdosing
and
dying,
and
never
before
seen
rates.
Overdoses
that
do
not
result
in
deaths
are
exceptionally
expensive,
draining
our
Health
Care
system
and
mentally
and
emotionally
traumatic
to
all
parties.
These
overdoses
are
preventable.
F
Screening
I
want
to
remind
the
commission
that
no
internal
structural
sites
had
to
be
changed
for
the
facility,
and
at
this
point
we
are
turning
away
about
60
percent
of
the
referrals
who
come
to
us
because
their
medical
complexity
is
higher
than
our
level
of
care
allows
us
to
provide
these
folks
are
going
into
the
emergency
rooms
or
back
to
the
streets.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Tiffany
our
colleagues
at
lhb,
who
is
going
to
dive
into
the
Practical
difficulty.
G
Thank
You
Caroline,
yes,
my
name
is
Tiffany
navratil
I'm,
a
professional
landscape
architect
with
lhb
and
an
adjunct
faculty
member
at
the
U
of
M.
This
slide
here
is
just
summarizing
and
reiterating
what
mailing
has
already
presented
the
location
of
the
site
and
the
issue
here
with
trash
bin
location
really
boils
down
to
three
buckets
of
how
we
approach
the
site.
So
you
can
approach
it
off
of
Grant
Street.
G
If
you
look
at
how
a
front
loading
trash
truck
Works,
they
need
a
good
amount
of
maneuvering
space
in
order
to
approach
a
really
really
large
trash
bin
like
this
head
on,
so
they
can
insert
their
Forks,
lift
it
up
over
its
head
and
then
set
it
back
down
again
and
then,
because
the
site
requires
two
bins:
an
eight
cubic
yard
trash
bin
and
a
four
cubic
yard
recycling
bin.
It
has
to
back
up
and
reposition
itself
in
order
to
get
at
that
second
bin
right
now.
G
All
of
those
trash
truck
maneuverings
are
happening
on
Grant
Street,
which
is
a
very
low
traffic
Corridor,
and
it
is
very
visible
from
Grant
Street.
As
of
right
now
you
can
see
the
alleyway
is
presenting
a
particular
challenge
here,
where
this
entire
site
was
developed
before
modern
zoning
requirements
were
written.
So
the
alley
is
narrower
than
typical
right-of-way
alley,
there's
existing
electric
poles
and
then
even
more
limiting
is
the
existing
overhead
power
line.
The
same
condition
applies
to
the
Elder
alley.
That's
on
the
east
side
of
614
East,
Grant
Street.
G
The
trash
hauler
has
emphatically
stated
that
they
will
not
allow
their
trash
trucks
to
drive
underneath
these
overhead
Alleyways,
and
you
can
see
the
dashed
lines
on
either
side
of
the
auto
turd
representation
of
how
much
space
that
the
truck
takes
up.
There's
the
truck
itself
in
solid
black
lines,
there's
the
mirrors
one
foot
away
on
either
side
and
then
there's
that
extra
wiggle
room.
That
I
think
we
all
learned
this
past
winter
is
really
necessary
in
Minnesota
to
plan.
G
If
you
access
something
within
the
parking
area
off
of
Portland,
here's
two
different
iterations
of
where
those
trash
bins
could
be
located.
You
end
up
having
to
do
all
of
your
truck
maneuvering
on
Portland
Avenue,
which
is
a
very
high
traffic
Corridor,
creating
a
particularly
unsafe
condition
and
vehicular
collections
become
very
likely.
G
Finally,
access
off
of
Grant
Street
to
fully
enclose
it
on
all
four
sides
also
presents
challenges
in
order
to
make
it
so
that
there
is
a
gate
it
has
to
be
facing
Grant
Street.
Otherwise
the
trash
hauler
will
not
actually
be
able
to
get
the
trash
bins
out
of
the
enclosure.
However,
a
gate
facing
Grant
Street
is
not
allowed
in
current
zoning
code
in
order
to
make
sure
that
the
residents
can
open
the
gate,
it
makes
the
size
of
the
enclosure
so
large
that
it's
now
needs
to
encroach
upon
the
right-of-way.
G
When
I
spoke
to
Paul
Miller
with
Public
Works,
he
said
that
a
small
amount
of
encroachment
would
be
accepted
to
the
city,
but
if
the
gate
needed
to
swing
across
the
sidewalk,
that
would
be
unacceptable.
That
is
the
only
condition
in
which
the
scenario
on
the
left
would
work.
We
could
also
explore
the
option
of
having
a
sliding
door,
which
would
end
up
being
a
permanent
construction
that
is
approximately
35
feet
long.
That
would
be
very
fence
like
and
at
least
six
feet
tall,
which
would
violate
a
different
part
of
the
zoning
code.
G
H
G
We
also
looked
at
a
scenario
in
which
we're
using
the
ramp
space
and
the
614
East
Grant
Street
Building,
to
put
in
a
trash
enclosure,
and
it
also
creates
a
lot
of
issues
with
whether
or
not
we're
limiting
access
to
the
Ada
egress
on
that
building
and
or
whether
or
not
it's
even
viable
to
waterproof
the
building,
which
is
unknown
and
also
unlikely,
given
the
age
of
the
building.
So
our
proposed
solution
is
to
screen
the
trash
bin
and
its
existing
location
on
three
sides
rather
than
four.
G
So
we
are
using
Grant
Street,
which
is
still
the
lowest
traffic
Corridor
available
to
us
to
complete
our
truck
Maneuvers,
as
is
the
current
existing
condition,
we're
eliminating
any
permanent
or
temporary
encroachments
into
the
right-of-way.
We're
eliminating
any
safety
conflicts
with
the
traffic
on
Portland
Avenue,
with
utility
infrastructure
and
with
parked
cars
we're
eliminating
any
Ada
conflicts.
I
So
staff
had
earlier
come
up
and
said
that,
or
maybe
it's
in
the
report,
I
can't
remember
where
I
read
it
or
heard
it,
but
that
there
that
you
have
not
exhausted
options
available
to
you
to
to
find
a
way
to
fit
within
the
code.
I'm
just
I'm
asking
the
question
as
to
whether
or
not
the
presentation
you've
given
us
includes
all
possibilities
for
trash
removal
or
if
there
are
others
that
are
maybe
too
expensive
or.
G
Great
question:
so
there
are
eight
exhibits
Illustrated
we
have
the
proposed
solution,
the
existing
condition
and
then
eight
iterations
of
what
we
could
do
in
order
to
resolve
this
issue
in
the
variance
application.
There's
also
a
narrative
included
that
whether
or
not
we
use
a
different
kind
of
bin
so
does
it
need
to
be
an
eight
yard
cubic
yard
bin?
Could
we
use
three
four
yard
cubic
yard
bins?
Could
we
use
90
gallon
bins
that
you
can
physically
roll
out
by
hand
out
to
the
street?
G
So
in
our
discussion
with
a
trash
hauler,
there
is
a
limited
amount
of
space
that
you
can
maneuver
a
four
cubic
yard
trash
bin
by
hand
until
it
becomes
impractical
to
do
so
within
a
Minnesotan
winter.
So
that
seems
understandable.
The
equivalent
volume
of
trash
that
would
need
to
be
included
in
90,
gallon
ones
that
you
can
move
just
as
a
person
would
triple
the
amount
of
space
needed
to
actually
store
all
those
bins.
G
It
would
require
24
90,
gallon
bins,
all
standing
outside,
and
then
somebody
would
have
to
take
24
bins
out
to
the
curb
twice
a
week
in
order
to
achieve
the
same
volume
of
trash
collection,
which
the
trash
hauler
also
pointed
out
that
no
trash
hauler
in
the
city
would
accept
that
contract.
So
we've
looked
at
how
we
could
approach
the
container
that
they're
being
set
in
in
all
of
those
Solutions
seem
non-viable.
G
It
really
boils
down
to
now.
The
next
step
would
be
making
a
major
investment
in
site
redesign
in
order
to
rearrange
the
existing
Utilities
in.
In
order
to
achieve
this
goal,
so
we
would
have
to
move
utility
poles.
We
would
have
to
potentially
bury
overhead
power
lines
and
instead
of
investing
what
is
amounting
to
approximately
seventy
thousand
dollars
for
the
landscape,
improvements
that
the
rsetan
has
already
committed
to
making
along
Portland.
G
We
are
looking
at
a
financial
commitment
of
closer
to
150
000
to
200
000
for
landscape
improvements
that
are
not
actually
supporting
the
intended
reuse
of
the
site
for
elevated
Medical.
Care
I
can
also
note
that
the
amount
of
time
and
energy
it's
taken
just
to
explore
these
options
has
amounted
into
the
thousands
of
dollars
of
range
for
consultancy
fees,
just
a
nurse
support
them
in
this
exploration
and
that
number
continues
to
grow.
As
this
conversation
continues,.
C
C
G
G
C
G
C
A
week
twice
a
week
twice
a
week,
I
I
was:
can
we
take
this
back
to
public
like
it's
just,
that's
that's
either
you
have
no
enclosure
or
you
accept
the
fact
that
we
have
a
unique
condition
here
and
you
want
closure,
put
a
gate
on
it
and
yes,.
G
So
you
can
see
in
this
image
that
the
building
is
set
back
only
eight
feet,
seven
inches
from
the
property
line,
so
there's
a
very
limited
amount
of
space
to
work
with
on
the
property
itself
before
we're,
creating
an
encroachment.
The
Swinging
of
the
gate
is
problematic
from
a
public
works
perspective,
as
I've
been
told.
Also,
if
we
have
a
fully
enclosed
four-sided
structure,
the
way
that
it's
engineered
becomes
very,
very
critical
to
make
sure
that
pedestrians
can
actually
access
it.
G
So
the
heavier
the
gate,
the
less
likely
it
is
a
person
can
just
open
it
and
throw
their
trash
in.
So
that
means
that
you
now
have
to
have
internal
circulation
space.
That's
at
least
three
feet
wide,
so
a
person
can
open
a
secondary
person-sized
door
go
inside
and
throw
their
trash
in
which
makes
the
enclosure
three
feet
deeper
than
it
used
to
be.
If
you
have
to
have
that
individual
person
access
door
which,
when
it's
drawn
this
way,
starts
to
now
permanently
encroach
into
the
existing
sidewalk.
G
G
And
it
would
have
to
be
electronically
operated.
Potentially
you
couldn't
just
let
anybody
go
in
and
out
of
there
and
everything
the
likelihood
of
the
structure
being
damaged
and
then
inoperable
and
then
creating
it.
So
the
trash
hauler
cannot
access.
Those
bins
at
all
becomes
much
more
likely
if
the
structure
becomes
damaged
so
the
more
moving
Parts
there
are,
the
more
likely
it
is
to
become
an
issue
long
term.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
to
maybe
pile
on
your
Vice
chairs
question.
Is
there
anybody
from
public
works
or
can
or
maybe
even
cped
could
help
us
understand?
If
we
have
this
type
of
encroachment
in
other
buildings
and
other
areas
across
the
city
right
now,
I
mean
I'm.
What
I'm
understanding
is
that?
What
we're
hearing
is
that
twice
a
week,
this
door
will
swing
open
the
garbage
trucks
come
they
leave.
Do
we
have
the
same
scenario
across
the
city
at
other
buildings.
E
Chair,
Olson
and
and
commissioner
Koski
I,
don't
know
of
other
I
can't
speak
to
other
properties,
but
it's
not
allowed
by
city
ordinance
to
have
the
outswinging
doors
across
the
public,
right-of-way,
so
I
think
the
just
to
clarify.
I,
don't
think
that
you
would
have
the
authority
to
override
public
works
on
that
aspect
of
it.
H
G
C
G
Are
you
to
plan
right
on
the
yeah?
Sorry,
okay,
so
there's
that
existing
light
pole
that
I
highlighted
in
yellow.
So
that's
something
that
if
we
leave
it
alone,
that
would
be
the
preferred
scenario.
If
we
have
to
impact
it
and
move
it,
that's
starting
to
increase
the
cost
of
the
project
dramatically.
What
you're,
seeing
between
the
two
sides
of
the
building
is
a
necessary
egress
Courtyard
for
the
entire
building,
so
to
scoot
it
further
to
the
right
starts
to
create
a
limitation.
It's
actually
not
one
of
the
scenarios
that
I
Illustrated.
K
G
E
G
So
in
this
scenario,
you
would
have
to
use
three
four
yard
bins.
Those
can
have
wheels
on
them.
They
can
be
rolled
a
very
limited
distance.
You
have
to
approach
the
big
eight
cubic
yard,
Bend
head-on,
it
cannot
be
wheeled.
So
that's
what
we're
seeing
in
this
scenario
right
here
is
the
big
one
on
the
left
does
not
have
wheels
and
the
truck
can
drive
right
up
to
it.
It
would
back
up
reposition
itself
ever
so
slightly
to
be
facing
the
alley
and
then
the
right
hand.
G
G
L
G
There
would
have
to
be
a
sliding
gate
across
all
three
of
them.
The
enclosure
would
cover
up
the
courtyard
about
halfway
across
and
then
because
it
would
have
a
sliding
gate
that
a
regular
person
would
not
be
able
to
just
open
up
and
throw
their
trash
away.
It
would
have
to
have
an
additional
person,
access
door
and
the
front
of
the
enclosure
would
come
out
into
the
middle
of
the
alley,
an
additional
three
and
a
half
feet,
or
so
so
it
would
make
the
alleyway
unnavigable
for
all
traffic
and
all
emergency
vehicles.
G
C
G
A
guy
wire
right
here,
I
think
I,
understand
what
you're
asking
me
now.
There's
a
guy
wire
right
here.
That's
tacking
this
existing
light
pole
to
the
ground
to
make
sure
it
doesn't
fall
over.
So
this
is
about
as
far
as
we
can
make
any
permanent
structures
without
impacting
the
structural
stability
of
this
pole.
G
Utility
company
is
a
challenge
to
collaborate
with.
It
is
something
that
we
can
continue
to
pursue
if
necessary.
M
Mailing,
can
you
expand
on
the
recommendation
that
you
made
for
denial
specifically
on
for
the
first
finding,
so
you
wrote
given
the
large
size
of
the
site
and
surface
parking
area,
there
are
other
options
available
to
the
applicant
and
waste
hauler
to
meet
their
maneuvering
needs,
while
also
satisfying
the
ordinance
requirements.
So
staff
does
not
recommend
a
practical
difficulty.
So
can
you
expand
on
what
the
alternative
ways
would
be
or
what
you.
E
M
And
would
that
be
able
to
be
located
so
I
mean
the
applicant
had
said
that
that
could
compete
with
Ada
accessible
spots?
Are
there?
Could
it
be
located
elsewhere
within
the
parking
lot?
I,
don't
know
where,
on
the
on
the
diagram
the
Ada
spots
are
or
where
the
alternative
locations
for
the
garbage
could
be
there
yeah.
E
Well,
the
extra
well,
the
exercise
is
just
you
know:
is
there
space
for
trash
enclosure
on
the
site
and
can
it
be
fully
screened?
And
so
that's
our
finding
is
just
to
be
consistent
with
you
know
our
February
recommendation
to
explore
the
options
in
the
on-site
parking
area,
so
we
haven't
come
up
with
a
design
that
would
accommodate
that.
But
you
know
we
encourage
applicants
to
provide
site
designs
for
us
to
react
to,
and
so
we
we
feel
that
that
would
probably
be
the
best
place
for
it.
Thank.
M
G
G
G
It's
not
an
issue
of
space,
it's
an
issue
of
access,
so
the
image
on
the
left
here
is
one
example
of
where
it
could
be
located
where
there's
plenty
of
space
for
it,
but
the
truck
can't
safely
get
to
it.
The
other
example
on
the
right
plenty
of
space
for
it,
but
it
starts
to
impact
the
spirit
of
the
code
of
ADA
accessibility
requirements,
as
well
as
the
landscape
improvements
that
we're
trying
to
make
along
Portland,
so
plenty
space,
very
challenging
access
issues.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
I'm!
Not
seeing
any
more
commissioner
questions
so
we're
going
to
continue
with
the
public
hearing.
Is
there
anyone
else
here
who
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item?
If
so,
you
can
come
forward
now
to
the
podium.
You
can
state
your
name
and
neighborhood
and
proceed
with
your
comments.
You'll
have
two
minutes.
I
So
I'll
start
by
saying
that
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
service
to
provide
our
community
I.
Think
RS
Eden
has
generally
done
amazing
work
in
providing
supporting
housing
for
people
in
need
and
I
think
this
is
a
project
that
is
willing
of
or
worthy
of
additional
eyes,
but
one
that
we
should
consider
in
the
vein
of
it
being
a
valued
service
for
those
in
need
in
our
community.
I
Secondly,
I
I'd
like
to
say
that
I
think
this
is
kind
of
one
of
those
perfect
examples
of
government
coming
in
conflict
with
itself,
and
that
can
happen
from
time
to
time
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
apply
what
I
like
to
call
a
human
lens
to
what
we
are
working
through
and
does
this
past
the
human
lens
test
and
to
me
this,
this
denial
of
the
variance
does
not
pass
that
test.
I
It's
my
belief
that
their
practical,
practical
difficulties
do
exist
on
this
site
that
the
corridor
access
issues
on
Portland
are
is
a
practical
difficulty
that
exists,
that
the
existing
city
code
being
in
conflict
with
itself
I
think
specifically
of
the
Public
Works
encroachment
issue,
as
well
as
the
squeezing
out
of
the
the
ADA
Compliant
parking
stalls
and
making
an
accessible
City
for
all
of
our
residents.
I
I
When
I'm
saying
this
is
a
dramatic
improvement
from
what
we
have
seen
before
and
in
line
with
the
goal
number
three,
which
is
Affordable
and
accessible
housing
for
people
in
our
community,
I'd
add
that
I
think
this
is
specifically
also
in
line
with
policy
85,
which
is
access
and
health
for
social
and
emergency
services.
In
addition
to
policy
number
five,
which
is
visual
quality
of
new
development.
C
Just
because
I
agree
with
everything
my
fellow
commissioner
said
but
I'd
like
to
try
to
see
if
we
can
figure
this
out,
so
the
the
only
issue
with
the
parking
in
the
lot
on
where
the
Ada
accessible
stalls
are
I'd
say
the
client
has
agreed
that
that
works
great
there.
It's
actually
it's
only
the
issue
of
accessibility,
because
those
spots
might
have
to
move.
Is
that
correct.
C
G
So
one
of
the
issues
here
is
on
the
right
hand,
image
is
yes,
the
Ada
stalls
would
have
to
move
further
away
from
the
front
door,
but
also
we're
placing
the
the
smelliest
piece
of
this
site
right
up
front
next
to
the
front
door
and
along
the
high
traffic
Corridor,
where
the
vast
majority
of
pedestrians
will
be
walking
past.
So
it's
not
just
an
accessibility
issue,
it's
also
everybody
walking
past
the
building
will
be
experiencing
the
trash
bins
up,
close
and
personally.
G
C
G
Rs
Eden
is
currently
committed
to
spending
approximately
seventy
thousand
dollars
on
the
landscape
improvements
to
this
parking
lot
and
then
it
would
be
putting
a
trash
bin
right
next
to
a
very,
very
large
trash
bin
right.
Next
to
this
new
investment,
that's
supposed
to
be
improving
the
overall
character
of
the
streetscape.
G
A
M
Well,
I
had
a
procedural
question
for
the
motion
itself,
so
commissioner
Campbell's
motion
addresses
Item
B,
so
my
question
for
staff
is:
if
we
want
to
approve
Item
B,
then
for
item
a
word
with
the
recommendation,
be
then
be
to
approve
item
a
but
strike
condition.
Eight
or
or
would
it
be
a
modification
of
condition
eight
or
what
is
the
staff
recommendation
if
we
want
to
adopt
commissioner
Campbell's
motion
for
Item
B.
N
A
Variance
yeah,
you
I
think
you
can
withdraw
your
motion
and.
M
B
Through
the
chair,
I
believe
that's
my
fault
with
the
printing,
the
formatting
issue
that
we
frequently
have
transposing
from
limbs
to
Outlook
results
in
some
very
strange
numbering,
so
apologies
so.
M
N
N
I
Part
I
move
to
reject
staff
recommendation
and
approve
the
variance
of
the
refuse
screening
requirements
presented
today
to
the
Planning
Commission
by
the
applicant.
B
C
A
All
right
that
motion
passes
our
final
item
this
evening
is
item
number.
Six
and
staff
is
Erin
hanauer.
P
P
P
Just
a
block
or
two
east
of
the
Cub
Foods
and
Target
along
East
Lake
Street
that
proposal
again
50
emergency
shelter
with
54
beds,
22
single
room,
occupancy
units
and
23
residency
units.
The
Proposal,
is
to
have
the
11
space
surface
parking
lot
and
the
exterior
materials
being
the
brick
metal
panel
and
cement
board.
The
applications
that
were
are
required
for
the
project.
P
P
Also
note
that
historically,
there's
been
a
restaurant
at
this
intersection
at
this
corner
and
it's
in
its
typical
uncommon
to
see
buildings
proud
at
the
corner
and
then
the
interior
building
set
back
a
little
bit
more.
So
for
these
reasons,
staff
was
supportive
of
that
variance.
Request,
I
provided
a
correction
memo,
just
noting
the
typo
that
I
noted
that
the
condition
or
the
entitlements
being
were
meant
to
be
good
through
May
22nd,
2020
2025
and
not
2023
I'm.
P
A
A
R
Good
afternoon
Commissioners
I'm
Kyle
Hansen,
the
executive
director
at
Agate,
housing
and
services,
and
we
are
really
excited
to
be
bringing
this
project
to
you.
Today,
it's
taken
a
few
years
for
us
to
pull
together
financing
for
a
shelter
project
of
this
size
and
for
the
housing
component.
As
you
know,
our
city
continues
to
struggle
with
encampments
and
finding
a
safe
shelter,
especially
during
the
cold
winter
months,
for
those
people
who
are
living
outside.
So
this
project
is
an
important
step
in
that
direction.
A
Q
I
Am
David
Caniff
of
28
40,
27th,
Avenue,
South,
I,
lived
in
Minneapolis
I
mean
at
this
location
for
35
years,
and
this
neighborhood
has
had
to
suffer
through
the
George
Floyd
riots.
Q
I
had
to
save
my
house
from
being
burned
down
and
with
my
garden
hose
and
many
neighbors
have
already
left
the
area
here,
and
this
area
already
has
many
many
empty
lots
and
the
reputation
of
this
area
is
very
poor
right
now
and
putting
this
type
of
a
development
in
there
will
greatly
hinder
any
building
in
this
area,
and
we
have
a
reputation
for
this
area
here
could
be
made
like
it
was
before
made
whole
again.
Instead
of
putting
this
type
of
housing
in
this
area.
Q
With
all
these
code
variances
and
all
this
there,
it's
it's,
it's
going
to
be
a
big
detriment
to
any
further
development
around
this
area,
and
these
these,
my
neighbors,
already
had
to
suffer
through
homeless
people
living
right
in
the
same
spot
here
through
the
whole
winter,
and
some
of
them
are
here
and
there's
many
children
on
this
block.
There's
many
children,
there's
three
preschool
children
in
my
house.
Q
There
is
I,
I
took
a
picture
before
I
came
here,
there's
four
or
five
children
and
a
lot
across
right
across
the
street
from
there
there's
three
children
right
there
that
are
right
there
in
the
neighborhood
there
and
and
and
I
worry
about
their
safety.
I
worry
very
much
about
their
safety
and
it's
it's
a
bad
idea.
I
think
it
should
be
put
in
a
spot
that
has
less
other
types
of
housing,
especially
young
families
and
stuff,
like
that
there
and
I.
Q
I
I
believe
that
I
have
my
neighbors
here.
Yep.
Q
L
Hello,
my
name
is
James,
show
I'm
the
owner
of
the
2814
to
28
16
27th
Avenue
South,
now
I
had
some
really
good
renters
for
16
years.
On
the
first
floor,
they
actually
move
because
of
this
going
on
not
that
I'm
against
100.
This
could
be
a
great
thing.
The
problem
that
we're
having
right
now
is
it's
a
total
mess.
It's
become
a
dump
yard.
Now
now
we
were
promised
that
the
dumpster
was
going
to
come
in
there
I
was
going
to
clean
it
up.
L
Nothing's
happened
if
it's
still
exactly
the
same,
so
the
trust
really
gets
kind
of
stabbed
a
little
bit
when
somebody
tells
you
they're
going
to
do
something
and
they
don't
do
it
like
you're,
saying
fool
me
once
shame
on
me
and
she
gonna
be
twice
shame
on
I
mean
if
we
want
to
watch.
Shame
on
you
fool
me
twice.
Shame
on
me.
So
what
the
only
thing
I
can
say
is
that
there
has
to
be
some
trust
built
up
here.
If
that
doesn't
come,
this
will
never
make
it.
L
It
will
not
make
it
neighborhood
and
just
like
the
gentleman
was
saying,
there's
eight
or
nine
young
little
Somali
girls
at
the
corner
right
by
the
lot
they
say
hi
to
us
every
day
when
we
go
by,
they
call
us
by
name
it's.
It
was
it's
a
great
neighborhood,
but
again
there
has
to
be
some
trust,
because
it's
not
going
to
work.
If
we
don't
get
something
going
on.
Okay,
I
even
took
pictures
of
piles
and
needles
over
there.
L
It's
yes,
it's
bad!
Last
night
we
had
a
new
a
new
tenant
move
in
over
there.
So
I
went
to
confront
him
and
ask
what
he's
doing
there
and
he
told
me
to
buy
my
own
effing
business.
So
it's
not
like
it's
a
polite
way
of
saying
this,
but
it
in
everybody's
house
I've
owned
my
house
now
for
almost
20
years.
I,
absolutely
love
it,
but
I'm
scared
to
put
a
renter
in
again
now
because
I
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen.
So
where
do
you
start
from
here?
L
We
just
bite
our
lip
and
say:
okay,
everybody
has
to
stand
up
and
say
something
and
I
know
these
gentlemen.
Back
here
probably
want
to
say
something
too,
because
they're
right
across
the
alley
from
me,
so
I'll,
let
them
take
a
couple
seconds.
L
Let
me
speak
for
them
for
a
second,
their
English
just
a
little
broken,
but
they
would
just
like
to
say
they
have
their
children
right
across
that
lot
and
we
watched
pickup
trucks
come
in
and
dump
stuff
off
every
night
they
have
cameras,
taking
pictures
of
them
and
we'd
go
to
confront
them.
Thank
you.
Q
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
J
S
S
S
A
All
right
is
there
anyone
else
who
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item
before
I
close
the
public
hearing
all
right,
seeing
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
for
this
item
Commissioners.
Is
there
any
discussion,
or
would
anyone
like
to
make
a
motion,
commissioner?.
D
Conley,
thank
you.
I
actually
have
a
question
for
the
applicant
now
that
I've
heard
some
public
comments,
so
there
there's
a
there's
some
truth
to
the
fact
that
trust
is
really
important
in
this
community,
especially
this
part
of
South,
Minneapolis
and
so
I,
always
wonder
sometimes
how
developers
come
to
community
with
project
ideas
before
they
come
to
a
Planning,
Commission
or
visit
me
to
talk
about
I
know
that
Agate
has
a
really
strong
history
of
housing
people.
D
So
can
you
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
how
you're
establishing
trust
in
the
community,
because
you
and
I
know
that
this
type
of
housing
actually
reduces
crime?
It
makes
neighborhoods
safer.
It
increases
property
values,
it's
safe
for
kids
right,
but
you
have
to
be
able
to
explain
that
to
the
neighborhood
and
talk
about
how
that
works
so
have
have
there
been
neighborhood
meetings.
Have
there
been,
you
know,
Flyers
sent
to
go
around
the
neighborhood
like
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
about
how
you've
engaged
with
the
residents.
R
Please
yeah
certainly
chair
Olson,
commissioner
Conley.
We
did
work
with
the
neighborhood
group
to
do
engagement.
Over
the
last
couple
of
months
we
held
two
neighborhood
feedback
sessions
that
were
pretty
well
attended.
We
held
one
on
Zoom
for
people
for
convenience.
We
held
one
in
person
in
the
area
and
tried
to
host
and
field
questions.
We
did
yeah.
We
did
send
out
informational
Flyers
to
the
whole
surrounding
Community.
We
did
a
mailing
of.
R
And,
and
and
did
engage
with
the
neighborhood
group
to
do
that,
we
purchased
this
property
in
in
January
and
and
early
on
in
the
process,
we
did
have
a
small
encampment
that
was
there
and
we
worked
diligently
every
single
day
with
with
our
street
Outreach
team,
and
we
did
manage
to
find
and
clear
the
encampment
on
our
own.
Without
any
intervention,
we
found
housing
for
the
majority
of
folks
there
and
moved
them
on.
R
We
have
secured
the
area
now
with
the
fence
and
are
in
the
process
of
you,
know
the
post
winter
cleanup
and
everything,
but
I
certainly
would
be
happy
to
to
do
some
more
deeper
engagement
with
the
neighbors.
Clearly,
we
want
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
We
do
know
that
there
are.
You
know
they
spoke
of
needles
in
the
alley
and
those
things
our
feel
feeling
is
that,
by
having
a
24-hour
presence
there,
that
we
can
prevent
some
of
those
issues
from
happening
that
are
going
on
now.
R
Without
a
presence
of
a
building
there,
we
will
have
24-hour
staff
on
site
for
both
components
of
the
housing
portion
and
in
the
shelter
portion.
We
have
a
front
desk
person
that
will
be
there.
Screening
and
the
the
space
itself
was
really
designed
with
the
neighborhood
in
mind.
We
put
the
social
area
back
toward
the
back
of
the
building.
R
We
provided
some
entrance
areas
and
benches
and
things
for
people
to
hang
out
on
the
front
area,
but
a
much
smaller
area
for
people
to
congregate
out
front
to
try
to
keep
some
of
that
in
a
in
a
space
that
was
designed
for
that.
You
know
there
will
be
landscaped
areas
green
space
behind
there,
so
we
really
tried
to
address
the
neighborhood
concerns
and
issues,
but
I'm
happy
to
reach
back
out
to
the
neighborhood
again
to
do
deeper
engagement
as
we
move
forward.
D
I
certainly
appreciate
that
if
I
may,
just
a
follow-up
that
it
may
be
single
room
occupancy
is
relatively
new,
but
it's
something
that
the
City
of
Minneapolis
has
embraced.
It's
something
that
Hennepin
County
has
embraced.
These
are
people
who
are
working
right
who,
who
are
have
housing
that
is
Affordable
to
them
based
on
their
income.
I
think
that's
a
misconception
that
a
lot
of
people
don't
just
put
together
so
I
certainly
appreciate
the
way
that
you've
engaged
the
neighborhood
it
look
looking
at
it.
D
It
certainly
looks
like
a
great
addition
to,
as
opposed
to
what's
there
right
now,
and
so
maybe
a
deeper
engagement
as
things
continue
to
go
up
would
be
a
not
such
a
bad
idea.
Yeah.
R
Chair
Olson
our
commissioner
Conley.
If
I
could
so
this,
the
the
housing
units
really
are
not
meant
to
be
transitional
units,
they
are
meant
to
be
folks
who
are
living
there
in
provided
services
and
support
for
for
their
longevity.
There's
no
time
limit
on
how
long
folks
can
of
there
and
we're
really
hoping
that
this
can
be
a
place
that
can
become
community
for
them
as
well
as
part
of
the
neighborhood.
T
Yeah
hi
my
questions
for
the
applicant
as
well.
You
know
I
think
this
is
a
great
project
when
it
comes
to
fruition.
In
the
interim,
it
sounds
like
there's
a
lot
of
sight
issues
when
it
comes
to
dumping
and
needles,
and
why
not?
What
are
you
all
doing
currently
to
address
kind
of
current
site
conditions
and
what's
happening
there,
and
what
could
you
guys
maybe
be
doing
better
for
the
current
neighborhood.
U
Speak
to
that
a
little
bit,
my
name
is
Michelle
Perrin
I'm,
the
director
of
Outreach
and
shelter,
with
Agate
housing
and
services,
and
currently
our
street
Outreach
team
is
making
or
has
been
making
regular
rounds
to
the
location
and
also
responding
to
neighbor
reports
of
people
living
or
utilizing
that
space
and
so
and
I'm
happy
to
share
our
contact
information
with
any
residents
and
I
can
do
that
here
as
well,
so
that
we
can
be
made
aware,
because
we
know
that
that
is
something
that
can
change
daily
and
sometimes
multiple
times
throughout
the
day.
U
And
so
we're
happy
to
respond
to
those
specific
concerns
on
an
ongoing
basis
as
they
arise.
And
we
are
currently
in
the
process
of
addressing
the
accumulation
of
litter
that
did
accumulate
over
the
winter
with
folks
that
were
living
there,
and
so
that
is
in
process
and
yeah.
Any
other
questions
about
that.
Yeah.
T
U
U
The
entirety
of
the
property
and
we
will
look
into
getting
like
garbage
receptacles
on
site
with
our
developer,
and
we
can
commit
to
doing
routine,
like
intentional
Outreach
to
that
location,
to
check
on
it
on
an
on
a
routine
basis.
For.
T
Sure
is
there
safe.
This
is
my
big
question
for
staff.
Is
there
some
kind
of
safe
needle
receptacle
bins
that
exist?
That
communities
put
out
now
I
mean
I've
heard.
This
is
an
issue
in
many
neighborhoods
I,
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
exists,
that
no
no
I'm
talking
about
for
current,
for
it
being
a
vacant
lot
right
now,
where
there's
dumping
happening,
how
you
can
make
sure
that
those
are
just
not
in
the
street,
sir.
A
N
U
Okay,
yeah
there
were
some
receptacles
that
went
up
to
different
Community
locations,
a
while
back
and
I.
Don't
know
like
we
were
made
aware
of
them,
but
there's
nothing
that
like
we
can
place
there.
We
do
provide
recept,
safe
receptacles
for
folks
who
need
them
to
dispose
of
their
like
needles
safely,
but
as
far
as
like
having
a
receptacle
on
site,
we
would
have
to
look
into
the
feasibility
of
that.
Okay.
Thank
you.
M
M
P
M
All
right,
I'll,
let
the
last
commenter
speak
and
then
I'll
have
a
motion
after
that.
J
Yeah
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
I
lived
near
here
for
a
long
time.
I
lived
at
28,
28
28th,
Avenue
South.
This
is
my
neighborhood
too.
Even
though
I
live
a
few
blocks
away
now
and
I
see
a
great
need
on
a
daily
basis
for
increased
options
for
housing,
so
I
I'm,
looking
forward
to
this
project
and
I
I
mean
I,
hear
the
neighbors
too,
because
this
this
neighborhood
especially
has
been,
could
use.
A
little
love
frankly,
has
been
hard
hit
in
the
last
few
years.
J
So
I
I
hope
that
you
know
this
thread
will
connect
you
all
and
we'll
keep
the
momentum
going
towards
a
better
future
for
the
long-term
Neighbors
in
this
neighborhood
and
the
future
neighbors
who
are
coming
into
I
did
want
to
mention
I
noticed
a
code
of
conduct
in
the
staff
report
and
maybe
that's
something
that
can
be
shared
with
neighbors
as
well.
M
So
I
I
support
the
staff
recommendation
on
this
I
think
it's
really
important
to
provide
this
type
of
housing.
As
commissioner
Conley
mentioned,
you
know,
and
the
city
has
embraced
single
room
occupancy
and
I
think
it's
much
better
for
people
to
be
housed
than
to
be
on
the
street,
so
I
I
think
this
is
something
that
you
want
to
encourage.
I
did
just
want
to
note
for
the
variants
I
mean
this
will
be
the
third
time.
M
I
mentioned
concern
about
eliminating
pedestrian
overlay
districts,
because
we're
citing
The
Pedestrian
overlay
District
to
justify
this
variance.
It's
not
the
only
reason
to
justify
the
variants,
but
it
does
complement
it,
and
that
gives
any
concern,
because
if
this
had
come
a
few
weeks
later,
then
that,
wouldn't
you
know
after
the
city
council
passes
the
the
changes
that
would
no
longer
be
applicable.
So
it
seems
to
me
like
maybe
we
should
revisit
the
setback
requirements
in
order
to
make
them
more
more
pedestrian
friendly
in
the
future.
M
A
M
A
All
right
that
motion
passes,
that
was
our
last
discussion
item
for
the
evening.
Are
there
any
announcements
from
staff.
N
Yes,
thank
you.
So
it's
been
a
little
while
a
few
Cycles,
since
the
land
use
rezoning
study
was
in
front
of
the
commission,
but
it
did
just
go
to
the
biz
Committee
of
the
city
council.
Last
week
and
I
know
there
were
a
series
of
amendments
that
came
out
of
the
Planning
Commission,
so
I
just
wanted
to
touch
on
those
I
did
send
out
the
actions
and
the
entire
limbs
file
from
the
biz
committee
meeting.
N
But
just
to
summarize
here
so
there
was
an
amendment
brought
forward
by
commissioner
marwa
related
to
I'll,
just
summarize,
because
it
touched
many
chapters,
But
Metal
working
related
to
Arts
uses
that
was
adopted
as
part
of
the
biz
committee's
recommendation
to
the
full
Council,
as
was
the
amendment
brought
forward
by
commissioner
Meyer
related
to
the
size
of
grocery
stores,
to
increase
them
to
20
000
square
feet.
So
that
was
also
adopted
as
part
of
the
biz
committee's
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
N
There
was
another
amendment
that
was
brought
forward
by
Marwan
Baxley,
that
I
believe
they
were
calling
the
corner
store,
Amendment
but
related
to
The
Limited
commercial
uses.
That
amendment
was
not
adopted
as
part
of
the
biz
committee's
recommendation
on
the
land
use
rezoning
study,
but
it
was
passed
as
part
of
a
legislative
directive,
basically
directing
staff,
to
study
that
and
bring
back
recommendations
in
2024.
N
I
So
I
followed
from
afar,
poorly
I'm
guessing
on
what
happened
with
that
and
I'm
wondering
I'm
I'm
thinking
that,
in
order
for
that
to
move
forward,
we
need
a
comprehensive
plan.
Amendment
is
that
your
understanding.
N
Think
we
would
wait
for
the
legislative
directive
and
of
course
this
is
my
daughter's
pediatrician.
That
I've
been
waiting
to
call
me
all
day
and
then
there's
a
letter
that
I
sent
you
and
that's
all
I
have.
K
Koski,
thank
you,
chair
Olson,
so
I
guess,
I
I
have
a
question
about,
but
I
don't
think
she's
not
here
now
to
answer
that
about
the
timing.
I
did
not
follow
that
piece
of
it,
though,
that
there
was
a
legislative
directive
in
2024.
So
that's
that's
12
months,
I,
don't
know
what
did
they
was
there
a
specific
date
that
they
gave
us.
K
L
K
S
A
Okay,
commissioner
Albert
did
you
have
something
nope,
okay,
well,
I!
Think
that
since
we
don't
have
any
staff,
is
there
anything
else
before
we
adjourn?
Maybe.
H
A
Maybe
I
think
unless
the
application
has
been
withdrawn,
we
would
still
see
it
back
to
the
date
we
continued
it
to,
but
that
would
be
on
the
city
to
choose
to
do
that.
Gotcha.
Thank
you
all
right.
Anything
else.
If
not
and
without
objection
I'll
declare
this
meeting
adjourned.
Our
next
meeting
will
be
Monday,
June,
12th
and
next
Committee
of
the
whole
will
be
Thursday.
May
25th.