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A
B
B
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B
A
Let
the
record
reflect.
We
have
a
quorum,
we'll
now
proceed
to
our
our
agenda.
Commissioners.
We
have
an
agenda
for
today's
meeting
before
us
and
could
I.
Please
have
a
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda
in
second,
okay.
We
have
a
proper
motion
before
us.
Is
there
any
discussion
before
the
clerk
calls
the
roll.
B
I
aye
Davis
Carter
aye,
demillo,
hi,
Gordy,
hi,
Hill,
Kozak,
all
right,
Sandberg,
aye,
Smith,
aye,
Rubenstein,
I.
B
A
10
eyes
that
motion
is
adopted.
The
next
item
is,
we
can
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
from
our
previous
meeting.
E
A
We
have
a
proper
motion
before
us.
Is
there
any
discussion
before
the
clerk
calls
the
roll
with
that
and
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed,
nay,
that
motion
passes
and
mints
are
accepted.
A
C
C
Hopefully
I'll
stay
here,
for
you
know
the
indefinite
future,
hopefully
to
start
a
family
here,
one
day
and
I
I
love
my
city,
I've
traveled,
a
lot
I've
seen
how
different
municipalities
do
things
and
I
strongly
believe
that
this
is
the
best
city
in
America.
So
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here.
I
have
a
legal
background,
graduated
in
Mitchell
Hamlin
from
2018
and
I've
done
so
many
different
things
in
that
since
that
time,
so
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
demell,
and
welcome
the
next
item.
As
far
as
the
chairs
report
is,
you
have
a
I
think
in
front
of
you
I
hope,
a
little
memorandum
prepared
by
the
city,
clerk
Mr,
Carl
I'm,
showing
the
terms
of
the
current
terms
of
all
of
the
Commissioners
and
when
those
term
ends
so
I
know
that
there
are
a
number
of
terms
ending
this
year
and
Mr
Carl.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
this
a
little
bit.
F
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
I,
just
wanted
to
for
especially
new
members,
but
the
public
watching
you'll
recall
that
early
last
year,
chief
judge
Barnett
took
an
action
to
restabilize
or
rebalance
the
appointments
of
seats
through
some
processing
errors
over
a
number
of
years
that
had
gone
unchecked.
It
got
to
the
point
where
two-thirds
of
this
body's
membership
were
all
up
for
appointment
or
for
reappointment
and
consideration
last
year.
F
The
statutes
anticipate
that
no
more
than
about
half
of
the
charter
commission's
membership
will
ever
be
up
for
appointment
at
one
time
to
provide
more
stability
in
the
body
between
terms,
and
so
the
chief
judge
took
an
action
to
provide
an
interim
plan
to
adjust
those
terms
on
the
memo
I've.
Provided
you.
It
shows
on
the
left
of
the
thicker
line,
the
adjusted
terms,
the
start
date
and
stop
date
of
those
in
the
interim
periods.
F
Some
of
the
seats
were
appointed
to
two-year
terms,
others
to
four-year
terms
to
create
that
stagger
that
is
anticipated
under
the
statutes
and
then
the
new
term
details
that
all
begin
in
20
24
or
in
2026
2029.
All
of
those
are
for
four
years
and
will
continue
thereafter
for
those
four-year
periods.
What
that
means
is
that
there
are
six
seats
terms
are
assigned
to
seats,
not
to
individuals.
F
So
as
a
primary
example,
commissioner
Demello,
who
is
recently
appointed,
is
filling
out
the
unexpired
term
associated
with
seat
one
seats,
one
three:
five,
seven,
eleven
and
fifteen
a
total
of
six
are
up
to
expire
at
the
end
of
this
year
and
would
create
new
terms.
Beginning
January,
1
2024.
I
have
listed
those
in
the
second
chart
on
that
memo.
For
you
and
put
in
bold,
both
the
individual
member
who
holds
that
seat
and
the
terms
expiration
on
the
back
you'll
see
information
about
the
appointment
process
which
begins
in
September
this
year.
F
Our
open
appointment
process
for
the
fall
cycle
will
be
September
15th
and
it
will
close
on
Tuesday
October
31st.
So
we
are
using
an
online
application
through
our
legislative
information
management
system
for
the
appointment
process.
Members
of
the
public
or
members
who
currently
at
least
serve
and
wish
to
be
considered
for
reappointment
can
use
that
online
application
module
and
limbs
to
submit
their
application.
I
will
note
that
although
the
city
uses
the
open
appointments
process
and
has
for
many
years,
the
charter
commission,
as
you
well
know,
is
not
a
City
Board.
F
This
is
not
a
municipal
board
that
is
created
by
and
is
subject
to,
oversight
by
the
mayor
and
the
council.
The
charter
commission
is
a
board
or
a
body
created
by
State
Statute
and
is
appointed
by
The
District
Court
through
and
by
its
chief
judge,
so
it
is
much
different
than
any
of
the
other
boards.
However,
the
chief
judge
and
consultation
and
cooperation
with
my
office
uses
that
open
appointments
process
in
order
to
solicit
as
wide
a
variety
of
applications
as
possible.
F
So
we
do
work
very
closely
with
the
chief
judge
to
promote
awareness
of
that
application
period
in
that
process
and
when
the
application
period
closes
in
October,
we
will
review
all
of
the
applications
and
make
sure
that
they
are
eligible,
meaning
they
need
to
be
a
resident
of
Minneapolis
and
a
qualified
voter,
and
we
will
forward
those
on
to
the
chief
judge
for
his
consideration
and
he
takes
that
process
from
there
and
then,
as
all
of
you
know,
we'll
make
those
appointments.
The
appointments
are
made
to
those
four-year
terms.
F
A
I,
don't
really
have
a
question
I.
Think
it's
more
of
a
comment
as
I
would
note,
as
my
understanding
that
all
of
Commissioners
that
are
whose
term
ends
this
year
retain
those
seats
or
stay
in
that
position
until
their
successor
is
appointed
so
that
if
somebody
isn't
appointed
as
your
term
ends
in
December,
you
know
you
run
over
until
a
new
person.
If
it's
not,
you
is
appointed
to
that
position.
That's
correct,
Mr,
chair.
A
Next
item
on
the
agenda
today
is
is
a
presentation
regarding
the
government
structure,
implementation
and
Charter
amendments
Mr,
Carl,.
F
If
necessary,
I
know,
we
came
before
this
board
at
your
last
meeting,
the
regular
meeting
in
June
and
talked
about
the
anticipation
of
a
joint
meeting
between
this
body
with
the
mayor
and
the
city
council
to
discuss
the
implementation
of
our
new
form
of
government.
F
The
executive
mayor,
legislative
Council
system
that
was
approved
at
the
2021
Municipal
general
election
I
think
I
reported
at
that
time,
and
you
may
recall
that
the
council
spent
a
majority
of
its
time
in
2022
last
year,
working
on
implementation
of
that
new
form
of
government,
and
so
that
culminated
in
October
last
year
with
the
adoption
of
what
we
referred
to
as
the
government
structure,
Omnibus
ordinance,
it
was
a
very,
very
large
ordinance
which
took
the
structure.
The
voters
approved
for
this
body's
Amendment
to
the
Charter
and
detailed
in
the
executive
branch
of
government.
F
It
recreated
three
Executive
offices
that
report
to
the
mayor
and
create
the
mayor's
cabinet.
It
created
a
series
of
other
administrative
departments
that
make
up
the
city's
Administration
it
created
and
defined
the
legislative
branch
under
the
city,
council
and
other
types
of
activities.
There
were
at
that
time.
F
So
we're
talking
Personnel
actions
where
the
state
legislature
has
authorized
us
to
have
a
position
to
label
it
a
certain
title
and
to
provide
for
its
duties
as
a
charter
City
operating
under
a
Homeworld
Charter,
it's
necessary
for
us
to
go.
Ask
the
legislature
for
permission
to
create
positions.
We
have
that
inherent
authority
to
do
going
forward.
It's
a
matter
of
eliminating
the
special
laws
and
if
there
are
Provisions
in
the
special
laws
that
we
need
to
or
wish
to
retain,
putting
that
either
into
the
charter
or
the
code
of
ordinances
as
appropriate.
F
The
chair
had
asked
me
to
summarize
for
you
at
a
high
level
the
types
of
amendments
that
staff
would
bring
forward.
The
city
attorney's
office
is
working
on
completing
those
our
managing
attorney
Susan
Trammell.
Many
of
you
know
her
was
the
lead
on
the
drafting
of
the
government
structure,
Omnibus
ordinance
that
was
adopted
by
mayor
and
Council
in
October,
and
she
is
taking
the
lead
again
on
this
work
to
bring
closer
alignment
and
Clarity
between
the
revised
Charter
form
of
government
and
that
government
structure
ordinance.
F
So
on
this
memo,
you
can
see
I've
highlighted
on
the
bottom
part
of
the
front
page
and
carrying
over
to
page
two
amendments
that
were
proposed
in
certain
articles
and
so
I
I
ended.
My
brief
introduction
talking
about
special
laws
and
the
authority
of
a
Homeworld
Charter
City,
to
create
positions
that
it
needs
without
special
laws
from
the
state
legislature.
I
think
we're
looking
for
an
elegant
solution.
F
So
not
quite
sure
what
that
will
look
like
when
it's
fully
drafted.
But
that's
I
think
this
the
extent
of
any
amendments
in
article
one
really
dealing
with
expanding
and
clarifying
our
home
rule
Authority
and
that
we
don't
need
to
retain
special
laws
that
have
been
in
place
over
the
life
of
the
history.
Creating
specific
positions.
I
can
pause
and
see.
If
there
are
questions
on
this
specific
piece,
commissioner
Kozak.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
Mr
Carl.
Is
it
fair
to
say
that
these
are
well
they're
that
they
don't
appear
I
know
you'll
have
to
wait
till
the
final
draft,
but
from
what
I
can
see
there?
These
are
non-controversial
so
they're,
more
technical
than
than
really
substantive,
like
we've
hit,
like
other
things,
we've
seen
through.
F
The
chair
to
commissioner
kozak's
question
I
would
call
them
technical
clarifications.
I
would
also
say
they're
they're,
pretty
inside
baseball
if
I
can
use
that
term.
It's
it's
about
knowing
how
the
organization
is
structured
and
how
you
know:
responsibilities
flow
from
elected
officials
through
departments
and
and
Carry
Out
duties
of
the
municipal
government,
and
so,
although
any
Amendment
made
by
ordinances
certainly
subject
to
a
petition
and
if
that
petition
is
found
to
be
sufficient
would
have
to
be
referred
to.
Voters
in
the
primary
pathway.
F
D
Yes,
thank
you.
Mr,
chair,
Mr
Carl.
If
the
city
council
decides
that
they
don't
want
to
approve
all
of
them
unanimously,
presumably
they
can
be
severed
so
that
certain
ones
could
go
to
the
voters
if
needed
and
others
might
just
be
past.
His
ordinance.
F
Through
the
chair
again
to
commissioner
rubenstein's
question
that
would
be
our
hope
is
that
the
drafting
would
be
such
that
they
aren't
necessarily
dependent
on
them.
Some
of
them
could
be
a
little
bit
dependent
and
we'd
have
to
make
judgment.
Calls
at
that
point,
especially
and
I'll
get
to
this
later.
F
Article
8,
which
is
the
most
extensively
I,
think
referred
to
internally
by
staff
in
our
day-to-day
operations
and
creates
the
most
problems
for
us
and
just
in
terms
of
operations,
and
because
that's
where
I
would
expect
a
lot
of
attention
it.
It
sort
of,
has
strings
into
other
articles,
and
so
it
would
be
difficult
in
some
areas,
I
think
to
wholly
sever
them
and
in
others
like
this
one
in
article
one.
It
shouldn't
be.
Thank.
D
A
And
I
would
note
for
Commissioners
as
well
as
the
public
at
large.
There
are
literally
hundreds
of
these
special
laws
governing
the
city,
many
of
which
really
should
be
in
either
Ordnance
or
just
left
up
to
the
discretion
of,
for
example,
in
Personnel
field,
to
the
appointing
agency
appointing
agent
so
and
many
of
us
are
purely
outdated.
You
know
one
in
perfect.
You
know
decades
ago
that
really
don't
have
any
impact
anymore
or
are
actually
probably
not
in
in
step
with
what
current
law
would
be.
A
Your
current
thing
would
be
on
particular
issues,
so
it's
been
an
ongoing
problem
for
a
number
of
years
that
the
city
has
created
Itself
by
continuing
going
to
the
legislature
for
things
that
it
could
have
done
itself.
E
Oh
Mr,
chairman
Mr
Carl,
just
one
quick
question:
I
assume.
If
the
council
you
couldn't
get
13
votes,
we'd
have
to
wait
until
the
24
election
to
bring
this
to
the
ballot
right.
F
After
article
one,
there
is,
you
may
recall,
I
mentioned
this
at
the
meeting
in
June.
There's
a
small
I
would
call
it
a
scrivener
error,
so
highly
technical.
As
we
went
about
creating
the
government
structure
proposal,
this
body
created
or
elevated
and
recreated
the
office
of
City
auditor,
we
had
an
internal
auditor.
As
you
know,
that
office
was
elevated
to
a
city
auditor
position
and
it
was
codified
for
the
first
time
in
the
charter.
It
was
a
point
of
much
discussion
by
this
body
that
the
auditor
would
need
to
be
protected.
F
It
was
subject
to
appointment
by
an
independent
audit
committee.
The
audit
committee
itself
is
established
and
appointed
by
the
council.
The
auditor
serves
in
a
variety
of
capacities,
all
largely
classify
them
in
two
groups:
one
they
do:
the
internal
auditing
of
the
city,
so
programmatic,
auditing
and
financial
auditing
things
like
that.
That's
the
traditional
function
of
the
auditor
that
was
reserved
and
preserved
through
that
government
structure.
F
There
was
a
need
to
provide
some
protection
so
that
an
auditor
was
not
removed
for
political,
falling
out
of
political
favor,
and
you
may
recall
that
we
put
into
the
charter
a
provision
that
said
how
the
auditor
could
be
removed
and,
unfortunately,
I
again
I-
think
it's
an
oversight.
There
is
what
appears
to
be,
in
my
opinion,
a
scrivener's
Heir.
It
says
that
the
auditor
can
only
be
removed
by
the
council
pursuant
to
section
8.2
G3
for
cause
by
a
majority
vote
by
a
majority
vote.
F
Those
last
words
are
the
problem,
because
under
Section
8.2
G3
that
it
points
to
within
the
charter
that
says,
removal
is
a
two-thirds
vote.
Clearly,
this
body
I
think
by
referencing.
That
point
said.
Removal
should
be
two-thirds,
not
a
simple
majority,
and
so
this
would
need
to
be
clarified,
or
else
there
is
a
conflict
between
the
section
it
references
and
the
concluding
words
of
the
section
that
deals
with
the
auditor's
removal.
F
So
I
think
that
one
is
clearly
a
very
technical
correction
and
could
easily
be
made
by
ordinance
again,
assuming
that
the
13,
this
body
concurs,
you
were
the
author
of
The
ordinance
so
should
know,
and
then
the
unanimous
approval
of
the
Council
on
the
mayor
concurring.
F
That's
the
only
change
within
Article
4
that
we
have
identified
at
this
point,
the
major
substantive
changes
that
staff
would
like
to
bring
forward
deal
with
article
eight
and
as
I
alluded
to
this
is
one
of
the
Articles
we
deal
with
the
most
in
the
charter
in
our
day-to-day
work.
This
article
deals
with
it's
titled
officers
and
other
employees.
F
But
then,
here
again,
we've
repeated
those
articles,
but
sometimes
they're,
not
exactly
the
same,
and
so
for
us
article
8
is
one
that
has
to
be,
and
the
lawyers
among
you
will
appreciate
this,
perhaps
more
than
I
it
has
to
be
read
in
total.
It
has
to
be
referred
to
the
other
articles
and
then
there
has
to
be
a
consultation
to
go.
What
what
do?
We
think?
F
This
really
means
in
this
specific
instance
and
then
try
and
be
consistent
from
there
going
forward,
and
so
we
actually
have
a
guide
to
how
appointments
are
made,
how
removals
are
done
that
tries
to
explain
this
Charter
the
code
of
ordinances
and
then
City
policies
that
all
are
affected
and
and
emanate
from
this
article.
So
our
proposal
is
that
this
is
our
chance
to
clarify
all
of
this.
Basically
through
a
complete
rewrite
of
article
8,
that
you
would
have
a
section
dealing
with
elected
officials
and
everything
dealing
with
elected
officials.
F
You
could
have
an
article
dealing
with
executive
officers
and
everything
having
to
do
with
executive
officers
their
appointment,
their
terms
when
they're
aligned
how
they
begin,
how
you
define
a
vacancy
and
how
they
can
be
removed.
The
same
thing
then
for
other
officials
and
then
a
section
on
employees
classified
service,
unclassified
service
and
then
the
Civil
Service
Commission.
Also
as
we're
talking
about
the
charter
in
its
constitutional
relationship
to
the
city,
there
is
a
significant
volume
of
detail
all
about
the
Civil
Service
Commission.
F
That
is
not
provided
for
any
of
the
other
boards
that
are
created
in
the
charter,
for
example
the
Civil
Rights
Commission
and
the
Planning
Commission.
They
are
created
they're,
given
a
purpose
and
they
talk
about
their
functions
with
the
Civil
Service
Commission,
we've
codified
the
rules
of
the
Civil
Service
Commission
into
the
charter.
F
So
there's,
in
our
opinion,
too
much
operational
detail
for
the
Civil
Service
Commission
and
the
charter
that
could
be
reserved
to
the
Civil
Service
commission's
rules
or
to
codes
which
are
easier
than
for
us
to
change
as
needs
change
over
the
years,
and
so
that
is
a
high
level
summary
of
the
most
changes
that
staff
would
recommend
through
amendments
for
the
purpose
of
clarifying
one
of
the
Articles
of
the
charter.
F
We
look
to
the
most
and
I've
provided
a
little
bit
of
that
detail
on
the
memo
for
you
and
again
to
align
also
with
the
government
structure
ordinance
that
council
did
adopt,
you
can
see
at
the
bottom
breaking
up
between
elected
officials
and
local
appointed
officials.
Local
appointed
officials
is
a
term
that
is
used
in
state
statutes
and
state
regulations.
So
it's
a
broader
term
for
us
and
we
would
Encompass
under
that
the
executive
officers
that
we
defined
in
the
government
structure,
ordinance.
F
That
includes
the
three
Executives
that
are
appointed
by
and
Report
directly
to
the
mayor,
which
includes
the
City
attorney
the
city
operations
officer,
the
community
safety
commissioner.
It
would
then
identify
the
administrative
officers
defined
in
our
code
now
with
the
mayor
and
council's
action
to
be
the
heads
of
all
of
our
operating
departments
and
then
there's
a
catch-all
other
category.
This
is
is
for
those
officers
that
are
officers
of
the
corporation,
the
city
as
a
government
organization,
but
not
officers
in
the
administration
under
the
mayor.
F
That
would
include
the
city,
clerk,
the
city,
auditor
and
the
officers
of
the
Park
and
Recreation
board,
so
their
superintendent
attorney
and
secretary,
and
also
the
secretary
for
the
board
of
estimate,
taxation,
I.
Think
that
summarizes
all
of
the
proposed
amendments
that
staff
has
identified
at
this
point
again
a
lot
more
detail
when
the
attorneys
have
fleshed
that
out
for
you.
But
this
is
the
scope
and
magnitude
of
those
and,
as
was
sort
of
alluded
to
earlier,
I,
think
the
vast
majority
of
these
are
technical,
they're,
highly
complex
and
deal
with
how
the
city
operates.
F
A
I
do
have
a
couple
of
comments
on
this
for
those
that
have
been
on
the
commission
for
a
while,
if
you
remember
back
in
2015,
when
we
did
the
plain
language
Charter,
which
we
took
our
Charter,
which
was
basically
a
compilation
of
special
laws,
so
that
120
page
document,
which
was
full
of
archaic
language,
which
was
this
compilation
going
back
to
the
1800s
of
special
laws
governing
the
city
that
in
itself
made
it
difficult,
for
example,
in
this
Personnel
area
that
Mr
Carl's
talked
about
how
to
put
this
all
together
from
what
was
in
the
charter,
as
well
as
all
the
other
existing
special
laws
that
the
legislature
had
passed
for
the
city.
A
When
we
passed
the
plain
language
Charter
in
2015
that
simplified
the
language,
it
didn't
necessarily
clarify
the
language.
So
when
we
got
through
the
2015
language
staff
in
the
city
still
struggled
with
with
the
meaning
of
the
language,
as
particular
examples
came
up.
So
even
though
we
only
had
a
paragraph
instead
of
pages,
we
still
struggled.
What
is
a
vacancy
mean?
A
A
Came
forward
to
Mayor
fry
with
here's,
some
possibilities
of
running
this
new
executive
mayor
legislative,
Council,
Charter
and
the
mayor
chose
this
system
which
has
been
implemented
now
so
it's
time
to
take
a
look
at
this
is:
do
we
not
want
to
embed
this
new
structure
in
Charter,
so
that
is
the
big
substantive
question
that
will
be
in
front
of
us
as
well
as
the
Council
on?
How
does
this
system
really
look
now?
We've
had
a
Year's
experience
with
it.
A
Is
this
the
model
that
we're
going
to
go
forward
with,
because
it
is,
has
been
the
major
change
and
would
be,
you
know
the
major
change
baked
into
our
Charter.
If
we
move
forward
with
this
and
it's
approved
by
the
voters
or
if,
if,
for
example,
the
council
wanted
to
do
it
on
a
unanimous
vote,
so
that's
another
way
of
thinking
what
Mr
Carl's
talked
about,
but
that's
that
will
be
the
big
issue
for
us
as
we
as
we
move
forward.
D
Chair
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
your
comment
about
the
rewrite
of
the
charter
back
about
eight
years
ago,
some
of
I
and
some
other
people
were
there
during
that
process
and
the
very
clear
intention
and
focus
at
that
time
was
to
preserve
the
substantive
Provisions
in
the
charter
and
just
reorganizing
it
so
that
it
made
sense-
and
that
was
a
good
idea
at
the
time,
but
I'm
glad
that
that
decision
has
come
back
to
haunt
us.
So
having
these
new
proposed
revisions
will
be
a
good
thing.
So
thank
you
for
that.
A
F
As
you
might
imagine,
it's
hard
to
get
calendars
aligned
between
15
members
on
the
charter,
commission,
13
city,
council,
members
and
one
mayor,
and
so
to
the
extent
that
we
can
get
a
majority
of
the
two
bodies
together.
It
would
be
our
hope
to
to
do
that
as
soon
as
possible.
You
also
are
aware
in
fulfillment
of
his
Charter
responsibility,
the
mayor
only
recently
proposed
the
supplemental
2024
budget
for
the
council.
So
council
is
now
in
the
midst
of
taking
up
its
consideration
of
the
mayor's
2024
budget
proposal
and
they're
up
for
election.
F
Just
the
13
council
members,
as
you
know,
unless
80
days,
and
so
the
council's
calendar
is
quite
full,
but
to
the
extent
that
we
can
find
a
date,
that's
good
for
a
majority
of
them
and
for
you
we
would
like
to
secure
that
right
away,
so
I'm
working
with
Michael,
who
is
your
clerk
to
find
a
date
that
will
work
with
the
majority
of
you?
Hopefully,
sometime
end
of
September
early
October,
we
can
get
that
scheduled
thanks.
A
Thank
you.
Finally,
we
have
the
receipt
of
public
comments
that
are
offered
at
the
end
of
each
of
our
meetings.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak,
anyone
to
speak
for
the
charter
commission
meeting,
seeing
no
one,
we've
concluded
all
the
business
that
comes
before
the
charter
commission
and
without
any
objection
we'll
stand
adjourned.
Thank
you.