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B
A
Let
the
record
reflect
that
we
do
have
a
quorum
and
I
would
also
like
to
acknowledge
that
councilmember
Chuck
Tai
has
joined
us
for
this
meeting
as
well.
She
does
not
sit
on
this
committee,
but
wanted
to
be
president
in
in
today's
meeting
due
to
a
public
hearing
that
we
have
on
the
agenda.
Our
first
item
is
the
public
hearing,
considering
an
ordinance
amending
the
noise
violation
exemption
related
to
sounds
associated
with
the
religious
worship.
Kelly
mohmann
from
the
health
department
will
be
giving
the
presentation
is
I
didn't
see
Kevin.
Oh
there.
D
The
Amendments
for
the
ordinance
before
you
today
is
first
clarifying
the
enforcement
Authority
by
changing
the
enforcement
authority
to
the
commissioner
of
health
and
the
police
chief
or
their
designees.
The
health
department
is
currently
acting
as
the
enforcement
Authority,
so
this
is
purely
an
administrative
change.
D
Second,
aligning
the
noise
regulations
with
state
standards,
so
this
will
be
adding
Amplified
equipment
to
the
exemption
provision
for
religious
worship,
which
already
includes
Bells,
Chimes
and
carillans
and
then
as
well.
Reducing
the
duration
of
such
sounds
associated
with
religious
worship,
from
10
minutes
to
6
minutes
and
removing
the
restrictions
of
these
sounds
to
certain
hours
of
the
day.
A
You
thank
you
for
that
presentation.
I'm
going
to
put
proceed
to
the
public
hearing
and
I
do
see
that
we
have
people
signed
up
to
speak
and
if
you
have
joined
us
today
and
wish
to
speak
and
haven't
signed
up
with
the
clerk,
please
feel
free
to
sign
up
to
speak
when
you
step
up
after
I
call
your
name
and
please
forgive
me
in
advance.
If
I
mispronounce,
your
name,
what
I'll
ask
you
to
do
is
step
up
to
the
mic
state.
Your
name,
keep
your
comments
to
two
minutes.
A
E
Manager,
Commissioners
Chuck,
turchik,
Ward,
6.
I
have
three
questions
about
the
the
proposed
amendment.
First,
eliminating
the
time
restrictions,
The
Way,
section
C9
is
now
worded
by
eliminating
the
7
A.M
to
10
pm
time
restrictions.
It
seems
to
say
that,
under
this
exception,
I
can
use
amplifying
equipment
for
six
minutes
every
hour,
24
hours
a
day
to
deliver
any
message.
I
want
to
could
I
take
a
bullhorn
at
3am
and
deliver
a
six
minute
oration
outside
your
home.
E
E
What
sounds
does
amplifying
equipment
create
buzzes,
squelches,
interference,
noises,
Bells,
Chimes
and
Carolines
do
create,
sounds
I,
don't
think
you
meant
to
imply
that
amplifying
equipment
and
part
section
in
part
the
amplifying
equipment
part
of
section
9
to
be
referring
to
buzzes
and
squeals,
but
rather
The
Sounds
emanating
from
that
is
by
its
very
label
Amplified
by
such
equipment,
the
third,
the
the
unchanged
language
or
which
is
or
sounds
associated
with
religious
worship,
and
it
doesn't
say
or
other
sounds
so.
This
is
distinct
from
the
bells
Carolines
or
sounds
associated
with
religious
worship.
Why
you?
E
Why
do
you
need
that
language?
Does
it
mean
that
sounds
associated
with
non-religious
or
anti-religious?
Worship
is
not
Exempted
from
these
six
minutes
per
hour
periods.
If
so,
that
would
certainly
raise
the
issue
of
a
violation
of
The
Establishment
Clause
of
the
United
States
Constitution,
of
course,
that
language
was
there
previously.
So
I
am
surprised
that
no
one
has
challenged
it,
though,
through
a
very
quick
search,
I
couldn't
find
any
Supreme
Court
cases
on
sounds
associated
with
religious
worship.
I
did
find
lower
court
cases
on
Bells,
but
not
on
that
language.
Thank.
A
F
My
name
is
July
I'm,
the
executive
director
for
the
Council
of
American,
Islamic
relations,
chairwoman,
Vita,
council
members,
I'm
honored,
to
be
here
with
you
today
to
join
you
and
the
rest
of
the
people
who
are
here
today
and
our
residents
here
in
the
City
of
Minneapolis
and
obviously
the
state
of
Minnesota.
Today
we
are
asking
you
to
do
something
that
is
historic.
F
F
The
first
thing
that
you
notice,
whenever
you
are
in
a
community
where
Muslims
live,
is
that
called
to
prayer
and
I'm,
really
honored,
that
in
2020
mayor
fry
worked
with
us
to
allow
for
that,
and
it
was
sent
a
shock
wave
to
our
community
here
in
Minneapolis
to
our
country
in
the
United
States
and
all
over
the
world.
F
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Our
sister
ilham
to
be
the
first
lady
to
be
in
the
Congress
of
America.
Why
not
to
be
so
unique
to
be
also
the
first
major
city
in
Minnesota,
in
the
state
or
in
in
the
states
of
the
United
States
of
America
and
the
United
States
of
America,
to
be
the
first
to
approve
that?
Yes,
we
have
it
five
times
a
day.
Yes,
we
have
it
35
times
a
week.
Yes,
we
have
it
150
times
a
month.
Yes,
we
have
it
1825
times
a
year.
Why
is
that?
So
we
would
love
to
be
unique.
G
Who
would
love
to
have
that
wonderful
opportunity
to
be
psychologically
emotionally
and
mentally
relaxing
once
we
hear
this
Adan
all
of
us
each
and
every
single
one
of
us
in
his
home
being
unique
as
well.
Maybe
you
do
not
miss
no
word.
The
first
we're
the
first
state
having
the
first
Muslim
Student
Association
at
the
University
of
Minnesota
back
to
1947.
Again
and
again,
we
would
love
to
be
unique.
To
have
your
blessing
to
allow
us
to
have
the
colon
of
the
Adan
may
Allah
bless.
All
of
you.
G
I
greet
all
of
you
with
the
greeting
of
Islam
assalamu
alaikum.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
H
Thank
you
for
offering
us
this
opportunity.
My
name
is
Dr
Imam,
Hassan
Muhammad,
a
scholar
of
Islam
and
Imam
of
one
of
the
mosques
in
Minnesota
I
will
answer
for
the
benefit
of
the
committee.
A
couple
questions
that
maybe
you
have
in
your
mind:
what
is
the
Azan
azin
where
it
will
be
established
and
why
so
quickly,
as
an
is
an
Arabic
word,
which
means
an
Islamic
call
delivered
by
who
mazim
is
the
person
who
recites
the
other?
What
you
just
heard
was
the
other
the
person
who
recite
was
Dr
Hamdi.
H
He
was
in
today
and
what
we
heard
was
Azan.
It
has
to
be
in
Arabic,
then.
The
next
question
is
where
it
it
takes
place
in
the
mosques,
and
we
have
the
United
States
I
mean
like
in
Minnesota.
We
have
about
more
than
50
mosques
in
Twin
Cities,
more
than
Teddy
mosques,
so
that
itself
makes
a
case
to
have
the
other
the
purpose
of
the
Azan.
H
The
purpose
of
the
Azan
is
to
invite
Muslims
to
come
obligatory
prayer.
So
in
Islam
we
have
two
type
of
the
prayers.
One
is
obligatory,
the
other
one
is
recommended
so
to
make
it
the
last
point:
it's
a
five
daily
obligatory
prayers,
so
Muslims
need,
as
a
part
of
the
other
Faith,
a
reminder
to
call
them
to
come
to
the
prayer.
That's
why
it's
necessary
to
to
be
part
of
the
unique
system
of
America
in
general,
in
Minnesota
and
in
Minneapolis.
Thank
you.
Thank.
I
Thank
you
for
giving
us
this
time.
I'm
Jane
Buckley
Farley
lead
pastor
at
Trinity
Lutheran
congregation
in
the
Cedar
Riverside
Neighborhood
we've
been
there
since
1868,
and
we
are
now
the
only
Christian
Church
left
in
a
neighborhood
of
8
500
people
we're
there
not
to
convert
anyone,
but
to
help
each
other.
I
The
best
we
can
be
Trinity's
goal
and
hope
is
to
help
the
Muslims
and
others
in
the
neighborhood
be
the
best
Muslims
they
can
be,
and
our
Muslim
friends
wish
the
same
for
us
that
we
can
be
the
best
Christians
we
can
be
when
I.
When
I
first
heard
about
this.
My
thoughts
went
right
back
to
that
first
Muslim
travel
ban
and
the
neighborhood
was
helpably.
Scared.
I
I
J
Good
afternoon,
I'm,
Rabbi,
Marcia,
Zimmerman
and
I
want
to
say
that
I
was
so
proud
of
the
City
of
Minneapolis
during
covid,
when
the
call
to
prayer
was
resounding
all
around
us.
The
freedom
of
religion
is
essential
to
Temple
Israel
and
to
our
city.
We
have
a
Forefront
or
our
steps
lead
up
to
pillars
and
Five
Doors.
J
In
order
for
us
to
make
sure
look
like
in
the
year,
it
was
built
in
1929
that
it
looked
like
the
Lincoln
Memorial,
where
it
was
the
religious
freedom.
The
City
of
Minneapolis
doesn't
have
a
great
history
on
many
ways
and
many
levels,
but
it
was
known
as
the
anti-semitic
capital
of
the
United
States
before
1930,
and
we
built
that
building
in
order
to
say
religious
freedom
is
here
to
stay.
J
The
Jewish
Community
is
here
to
stay,
and
it
is
in
this
moment
that
we
ask
to
expand
the
ordinance
in
order
to
hear
the
full
five
calls
of
prayer
during
Ramadan,
so
that
our
Muslim
brothers
and
sisters
can
also
resoundly
say.
This
is
a
city
that
believes
in
religious
freedom,
so
crucial
to
who
we
are
and
for
those
children
who
are
growing
up
in
a
community
during
a
sacred
time
a
month
that
is
so
important
to
them.
J
K
L
L
L
K
L
L
L
L
L
L
A
M
And
good
afternoon,
City
Council
Members,
my
name
is
walidiri
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
Islamic
Civic
Society
of
America
that
Hijra
mosque
in
2003
in
the
highest
of
the
covid-19
pandemic.
My
mask
his
history
for
being
the
first
to
publicly
make
the
call
to
prayer
Adan
in
Minnesota
during
the
holy
month
of
Ramadan.
M
The
historic
step
was
followed
by
the
city
council
of
resolution
introduced
by
council
member
Jamal
Osman
in
Ramadan
2022
that
paved
the
way
for
three
or
four
out
of
the
five
daily
prayers
to
be
said
loudly
over
the
speaker
system,
many
members
of
our
congregation
in
Syria
Riverside
felt
recognized,
seen
and
welcome
to
overwhelm
to
welcome
to
Minneapolis.
Also
the
response
from
the
neighbors
Muslims
and
non-muslims
were
were
overwhelmingly
positive.
M
All
the
fear
of
a
backlash
did
not
materialize.
In
fact,
the
youth,
elderly
and
families
began
to
attend
Damascus
more
frequently
as
a
result
of
hearing
that
down
from
their
homes
and
place
of
work
in
the
neighborhood.
The
next
is
the
next
natural
step
is
to
approve
to
the
other,
for
all
the
five
prayers.
As
a
Muslim
leader,
I
felt
my
prayers
I
still
incomplete.
When
the
morning
prayer
is
left
out.
This
initiative,
championed
by
council
member
Minnesota,
must
be
approved
by
the
public.
From
from
you,
please,
and
thank
you
so
much
thank.
N
Thank
you,
Madam,
chair
Vito
and
committee
members,
council
member
Aisha,
checked
out.
Thank
you
for
hearing
doing
the
public
hearing
on
this
matter.
My
I
am
here
representing
Minnesota
Institute,
which
is
across
the
river
in
St
Paul,
we're
paying
a
close
attention
to
this
ordinance
and
the
way
the
City
of
Minneapolis
has
handled
it.
N
Our
children,
our
students,
are
paying
attention
to
the
next
steps
of
what's
happening
in
Minneapolis,
and
we
look
forward
to
this
moment
of
making
history
to
allow
religious,
religious
freedom
to
expand
in
the
state
of
Minnesota
and
and
and
the
rest
of
the
the
country.
Thank
you
again
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
and
time
to
to
speak.
A
O
Hello
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity:
I'm
Sarah
Zender
I'm,
a
pastoral
intern
at
Trinity,
Lutheran
congregation
I,
just
wanted
to
remind
everyone,
too,
that
we
support
this
exemption
to
allow
our
neighbors
a
full
expression
of
religious
Life.
By
having
the
call
to
prayer
broadcast
five
times
a
day.
P
It
is
quite
appropriate
and
striking
that
we
are
gathered
here
on
a
period
of
time
when
Ramadan,
Passover
and
Easter
overlap
this
year
in
a
quite
a
important
testimony
to
the
power
of
religious
liberty
in
this
country.
I've
had
the
privilege
of
working
with
religious
communities
throughout
this
country
for
my
entire
life
and
can
say
that
the
richest
of
this
country
is
embedded
deeply
in
the
diversity
of
its
religious
communities.
P
I
commend
the
city,
the
council
for
this
opportunity
to
expand
the
called
to
prayer
opportunities
for
our
Muslim
brothers
and
sisters,
and
strongly
encourage
my
support
for
that
opportunity
and
my
gratitude
to
the
council
to
my
brothers
and
sisters
here
for
standing
up
and
saying
that
this
is
something
we
need
as
a
community
as
a
city
as
a
nation.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
Q
Q
My
life
personally
and
professionally
has
been
enriched
as
Jews
and
Judaism
Muslims
and
Islam,
Hindus
and
Buddhists
and
Baha'I,
and
the
list
goes
on
as
that
Circle
of
Friends
has
expanded.
It's
not
only
been
a
personal
blessing
but
a
blessing
for
our
religious
community,
and
it
has
made
a
world
that
is
not
only
safer
but
much
more
blessed,
as
our
eyes
are
open.
Q
R
Is
going
to
work
on
his
handwriting
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
Beth
gendler
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
Jewish
Community
Action.
We
organize
the
Minnesota
Jewish
Community
around
issues
of
racial
and
social
and
economic
Justice,
and
we
do
so
in
deep
community
and
collaboration
with
our
partners,
including
care,
including
the
Muslim
Community
I'd
like
to
wish
all
of
you
a
blessed
Ramadan.
It
is
indeed
a
wonderful
thing
that
we
are
here
to
get
together
today
in
this
season,
as
we're
getting
ready
to
prepare
for
Passover
and
as
Easter
is
coming
to.
R
As
the
as
the
Pastor
said,
I
am
a
proud,
Minneapolis
resident.
R
Let's
just
finish
the
job
we
started
right.
I
I
mean
we.
We
do
allow
the
call
to
prayer.
Why
not
five
times
a
day,
we
know
in
our
work
to
protect,
promote
and
defend
democracy,
that
one
of
the
most
important
indicators
of
participation
in
our
community
of
Civic
involvement
is
feeling
like
you're,
a
part
of
the
community
and
feeling
like
you're
welcome.
My
family
came
to
this
country.
My
dad
came
to
this
country
and
we
tried
to
do
the
math
here
in
about
1948.
R
R
As,
Americans
and
I
believe
that
when
I
hear
the
call
to
prayer,
it
is
a
truly
beautiful
and
American
thing,
there's
nothing
more
American
than
the
expression
of
religious
freedom.
That's
available
to
all
of
us
and
I
encourage
us
to
embrace
it
fully
and
to
be
a
model
for
the
rest
of
the
country
and
the
world.
Thank.
A
S
T
T
T
T
T
K
U
F
U
A
K
V
K
V
W
W
I've
lived
in
Cedar
Riverside,
my
whole
adult
life
and
I
grew
up
there
and
when,
when
we
first
started
doing
the
add-ons,
it
was
so
powerful
and
you
know
as
a
kid
that
never
had
that
it
was
something
that
really
impacted
me
and
even
now
hearing
when
when
the
Adan
is
called,
the
call
to
prayer
hearing
that
in
your
home
is
something
so
special
and
I
think
it's
something
that
brings
our
communities
together.
W
Minneapolis
is
setting
you
know,
new
records
and
new
things
really
trailblazing
in
across
the
whole
nation,
and
it's
something
that
is
brings
all
of
us
together,
no
matter
religion,
no
matter
your
race,
no
matter
your
ethnicity.
Hearing
that
you
know,
and
especially
seeing
that
Muslims
are
just
like
us.
Everybody
else
we,
you
know
go
through
our
day.
Hearing
that
call
to
prayer
is
a
sign
for
other
people
in
our
community
as
well
that
we
are
trying
to
be
there
even
throughout
that
five
days
through
the
five
times
throughout
the
day.
W
A
Thank
you
and
seeing
no
one
else
wishing
to
speak
on
this
item.
I'm
gonna
now
close
the
public
hearing
I'd
like
to
thank
all
of
you
who
came
today
to
speak
on
this
item
on
our
agenda.
I,
really
appreciate
all
the
comments
and
now
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
asking.
Are
there
any
questions
from
committee
members,
council.
X
Member
wansley,
thank
you,
chair,
Vita
I,
just
want
to
say
major
thanks
to
councilmember
Chuck
Tai,
for
bringing
this
ordinance
forward
in
partnership
with
councilmember,
Osmond
and
council
member
Ellison,
and
thank
you
all
to
everyone
who
testified
today.
X
Many
of
you
shared
that
you
know
we
made
a
historic
moment
in
2020
when
we
allow
for
one
call,
and
now
we
have
the
opportunity
to
really
demonstrate
with
action.
I
know
often
we
like
to
do
symbolic
things,
but
this
is
actually
putting
action
behind
our
words
of
striving
for
Equity
to
be
an
anti-racist
City
and
to
be
inclusive
of
every
resident
that
live
here
in
our
city,
and
that
includes
a
summer
name.
X
The
ability
to
have
religious,
the
ability
to
practice
one's
religious
religion,
regardless
of
where
you're
at
that
religious
freedom
is
also
important.
So
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
our
colleagues
again,
council
member
Chuck
Tai
forever.
Bringing
this
forward
and
I'm
super
excited
to
be
able
to
vote
in
favor
of
this
ordinance.
X
Y
Palmisano,
thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
wanted
to
speak
to
the
first
comment
said
today
that
I
appreciate
we're
careful
and
really
specific,
with
our
words
when
we
put
them
in
ordinance
to
expand
something
in
this
case
our
sound
ordinances
to
the
to
those
earliest
comments
which
sounded
inconsistent.
Y
My
understanding
is
that
these
changes
are
made
to
align
the
ordinance
with
our
state
law
that
they
are
religiously
neutral
on
purpose
and
they
apply
to
all
religions
and
also
to
non-religious
kinds
of
sounds
I
also
want
to
thank
council
members,
Chuck,
Tai
and
Ellison
and
Osman
for
bringing
this
forward,
and
thank
all
of
you
for
representing
so
many
different
but
connected
faith-based
communities
here
in
our
city
and
I.
Think
all
of
you
said
it
most
beautifully
here
today.
I!
Y
Don't
need
to
restate
that,
but
just
to
uplift
what
we've
heard
if
to
add
my
own
faith
into
this
space
that
I
have
not
yet
heard,
but
can
speak
to
in
this
room.
It
would
come
from
Catholic,
Social
teaching.
It's
a
quote
about
the
importance
of
upholding
the
good
linked
to
living
in
society
together,
the
coming
good
and
it's
the
good
of
all
of
us
made
up
of
individuals
and
families
and
other
groups
who
together
constitute
society
and
that's
what
I
believe
we're
here
doing
today.
Thank
you.
Thank.
Z
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
I,
too,
want
to
join
the
chorus
of
praise
for
councilman,
Chuck,
Dyer
and
her
colleagues,
but
it's
difficult
to
get
this
done.
It's
a
lot
of
meetings.
It's
a
lot
of
time
and
you've
maneuvered
that
so
thank
you
for
bringing
it
to
the
finish
line
and
I
will
be
voting
for
yes
today,
for
this.
I
also
want
to
thank
to
so
many
members
of
a
different
religious
communities
out
here:
councilmember
wansley,
councilmember,
palmisano,
they're
right.
Z
AA
Madam,
chair
I,
really
appreciate
you
all
welcoming
me
to
your
committee
today,
Madam
chair
and
members,
and
thank
you
to
everyone
who
came
to
City
Hall
in
the
middle
of
a
workday
to
speak
at
this
public
hearing
this
language.
The
language
of
this
ordinance
amendment
has
been
workshopped
extensively
with
the
health
department
who's
here
today,
the
city
attorney's
office
and
the
Minnesota
Pollution
Control
agency,
which
is
the
regulatory
body.
AA
That's
given
the
authority
to
enforce
the
state's
noise-related
laws
and
we
did
all
of
that
to
ensure
compliance
with
existing
state
law.
AA
This
is
also
similar
to
the
language
that
that
was
changed
in
Patterson
New
Jersey
back
in
mid-2020.
AA
So
we're
doing
two
things
here.
First,
we
are
clarifying
the
enforcement
authority
to
the
health
department,
Who
currently
oversees
this
work
and
then
second
we're
aligning
the
city's
religious
exemption
with
the
state's
standards
and
then
just
to
briefly
speak
to
council.
Vice
president
palmisano's
earlier
comment,
this
exemption
only
applies
to
to
sounds
associated
with
religious
worship.
That's
why
the
exemption
exists
in
the
first
place,
so
it's
it's
limited
in
scope
in
in
Who
can
can
benefit
from
it
or
can
create.
AA
Sounds
in
evening
times,
for
example,
so
for
context,
this
change
is
allowed
under
existing
state
statute,
meaning
minneapolis's.
Existing
regulations
are
more
restrictive
than
what
the
state
allows
for
the
this
ordinance
Amendment
again
Allowed
by
the
state's
existing
laws,
expands
First,
Amendment,
protected
religious
freedom
in
our
city
and
to
be
clear,
the
language
does
not
give
preference
to
one
face
group
or
community
over
another.
AA
In
the
simplest
term,
we
are
aligning
our
ordinance
with
what
the
state
laws
allow
of
state
law
allows
for,
and
in
doing
so
it
just
happens
to
expand
religious
freedom
in
our
in
our
community.
AA
AA
First
to
my
co-authors,
council,
member
Ellison
and
council
member
Usman
to
the
intersectional
faith,
communities
that
are
here
today
and
spoke
in
favor
of
of
this
item
to
the
health
department
and
the
mayor's
office
who
worked
really
diligently
with
the
Cedar
Riverside
Community
in
2020,
when
the
pandemic
had
just
begun
to
expand
this
sort
of
First
Amendment
protected
Freedom.
AA
During
the
month
of
Ramadan
to
our
city,
attorney's
office
and
other
City
staff,
who
worked
really
closely
with
me
and
our
colleagues
at
the
Minnesota
Pollution
Control
agency,
to
make
sure
we
followed
the
law
and
then
finally
to
to
jaylani
Hussein,
took
care
of
Minnesota
and
the
elders
in
our
community
who've
remained
patient
and
Vigilant
as
we
as
we
as
a
city
work
to
to
figure
this
out
and
then
thank
you
again.
Madam
chair
for
having
me
today.
Thank.
A
You
and
once
again,
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
coming
in
today.
This
issue
is
clearly
important
to
so
many
in
this
community,
so
thanks
again
and
I
will
be
supporting
as
well.
Seeing
no
further
discussion.
I
will
move
approval
of
this
item,
all
in
favor,
please
say
I
I,
any
opposed,
say,
nay,
the
eyes
have
it
and
the
committee's
recommendation
will
be
forwarded
to
next
week's
council
meeting
for
final
action.
Thank
you
all
once
again
for
joining
us.
A
Next
up
we
have
the
consent
agenda.
There
are
three
items
on
today's
consent
agenda
item
two
is
authorizing
a
revenue
contract
with
the
University
of
Minnesota
for
bomb
detection
at
Huntington,
Bank
Stadium
item
three
is
authorizing
a
revenue
contract
with
the
downtown
improvement
district
for
support
of
the
Minneapolis,
downtown
improvement
district
summer
police
and
police
reserves
program
and
item
four
is
accepting
a
donation
from
the
Minnesota
State
Association
of
Narcotics
investigators
for
travel
expenses
for
the
police
department.
Is
there
any
discussion
on
these
items?
Councilmember
wansley?
Thank
you.
Chair.
X
Vita
I
wanted
to
pull
item
number
three:
the
revenue
contract
with
deed
for
a
discussion
absolutely.
A
And
so
we
we're
going
to
pull
item
three
for
discussion,
but
we'll
move
forward
with
items
two
and
four
all
in
favor
of
items.
Two
and
four
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
that
carries
and
now
we'll
move
on
to
discussion
for
item
three.
A
X
Yeah,
thank
you,
chair,
Vita,
I,
don't
know
if
we
had
staff
president
to
speak
to
this.
The
reason
why
I
pulled
it
for
a
discussion
is
this
specific
buyback
contract
came
through
Council
last
year
in
marches
and
I
had
asked
questions
of
staff
at
that
time
about
the
impacts
of
this
program.
The
answers
that
were
given
at
that
time
was
not
satisfactory,
so
I
voted
it
against
it.
I
will
acknowledge
Steve
Kramer
who's.
The
president
of
the
downtown
council
did
send
up
a
follow-up
report
for
the
2023
operating
plan.
X
AB
X
One
of
the
questions
that
I
had
at
the
time
was:
do
we
have
any
data,
that's
available
that
shows
that
the
Deeds
summer,
policing
Reserve
program,
has
been
effective
in
reducing
crime,
so
some
actual
like
metrics.
That
shows
that.
AB
It
is
council,
member,
it's
very
difficult
to
I.
Guess
in
a
word
prove
a
negative.
We
think
that
the
visibility
has
reduced
crime
and
has
created
a
perception
of
safety
more
so
than
if
those
people
were
not
or
the
officers
were
not
available
or
on
the
duty.
There
I
think
we
can
see
in
some
of
the
information
that
we're
going
to
be
providing
this
afternoon.
Some
of
the
calls
that
have
come
in
for
that
area,
as
well
as
the
coverage
for
that
area
for
overtime
and
for
the
buyback.
X
Okay,
just
so
I'm
hearing
correctly
I
I
get
the
piece
of
visibility,
but
visibility
is.
It
is
one
point.
Definitely
if
there's
a
database
that
is
tracking
this
information.
That
way
you
can
have
evidence.
You
know
to
back
that.
AB
Up
sure,
remember
we
we
do
have
the
the
hours
that
are
being
worked,
and
things
like
that
so
How
about.
If
this,
if
this
would
be
okay
with
you,
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
have
the
presentation,
if
you
have
follow-up
questions
after
that,
I'd
be
happy
to
take
those
questions
back
to
the
department
awesome.
X
And
just
so
presentation
and
in
consideration
I
would
like
to
know
too
based
off
of
existing
data,
or
you
know,
systems
that
you're
using
to
track
this
information,
seeing
if
there's
also
been
a
reduction
in
individuals
contact
with
the
criminal
justice
system,
I
know
you
mentioned,
visibility
is
one
piece,
but
is
that
in
increasing
contact
or
it's
also
decreasing
so
kind
of
the
correlation?
Is
there
anything
tracking
that.
AB
X
If
there's
data
that's
taken
into
account
because
I
know
that
was
referenced
last
year
of
who
or
certain
communities
that
might
be
targeted
in
this
and
just
wanted
to
know
what
what
approach
is
being
leveraged
is
again,
is
it
more
restorative
or
is
it
more
carceral
so
would
like
to
know
if
there's
data,
that
kind
of
you
know
paints
a
clear
picture
of
that
too
I'd
be
happy
to
take
that
back
as
well.
Awesome
I
will
name
it.
X
It's
sad
to
see
a
year
later
that
you
know
we
still
do
not
have
clear
data
points
about
how
these
contracts
are
helping
meet
our
Citywide
goals
and
also
in
thinking
of
this,
you
might
be
able
to
answer
this
piece.
X
Is
there
any
correlation
between
that's
being
tracked
between
operation
Endeavor,
as
well
as
this
program,
because
I
know,
operation
Endeavor
we're
dedicating
substantial
resources
towards
the
downtown
area
to
ensuring
safety
there
so
one
to
make
sure
it's
not
duplicative
that
we're
having
these
two
programs?
That
explicitly
is
focusing
just
on
this
particular
region.
You
know,
if
we're
tracking
any
correlation
between
those
two
initiatives
that
are
focusing
on
safety
in
downtown,
so.
AB
X
So,
thank
you
for
providing
this
information.
I
will
just
know
I
really
wish.
We
could
have
that.
You
know,
prior
to
today's,
you
know
request
for
approval.
I
I,
don't
feel
I
can
support
this
without
having
data
again
for
another
year,
so
I'm
absolutely
happy
to
meet
with
you
to
get
some
more
of
this
information.
X
I
think
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
get
that
information
presented
to
the
council,
since
these
contracts
seem
like
they're
going
to
continuously
come
back
to
us
for
approval,
so
I
just
wanted
to
name
that
and
we'll
be
in
touch.
Okay.
Thank.
A
A
A
AC
AC
Okay,
good
afternoon,
chair
vitol,
Vice,
chair
Payne
and
committee
members,
my
name
is
Brian
Smith
and
I'm.
The
director
of
the
Department
of
Performance,
Management
and
Innovation,
presenting
with
me
today,
will
be
Performance
Management
and
Innovation
program
manager,
Gina
o'berry,
along
with
Marissa
Stevenson
and
Jesse
Grandin
from
the
BCR.
AC
As
usual
as
we
give
our
presentations,
the
committee
is
more
than
welcome
to
stop
me
at
any
point
and
ask
questions
and
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
waiting
until
I
get.
A
AC
So
today
we'll
be
presenting
our
quarter
for
2022
update
of
our
portfolio
of
unarmed
Public,
Safety,
Pilots
and
initiatives.
We
will
also
provide
a
brief
note
on
topics
that
future
unarmed
Public,
Safety
design,
work.
Man
explore
here,
you'll
see
a
list
of
those
Pilots
categorized
as
non-emergency
and
emergency
responses.
Statuses
reflect
the
stage
of
the
pilots.
AC
Designing
reflects
the
pilot
in
the
early
phase
of
development
with
partner
agencies
evaluating
reflects
the
pilot
is
under
review
to
better
understand
its
performance,
implement.
It
reflects
a
fully
operational
program
or
service
that
involves
regular
monitoring
from
the
relevant
operating
departments.
AC
Current
pilot
status
for
the
non-emergency
police,
our
team
did
not
prepare
full
quality
quantitative
update
that
you
may
have
been
used
to
seeing.
The
reason
for
this
is
that
two
of
the
three
are
no
longer
considered
pilots
and
have
been
fully
transitioned
to
their
respective
operating
departments,
and
the
third
does
not
currently
have
data
to
present
with
that
transition.
The
role
of
PMI
is
shifted.
AC
AC
AC
We
want
to
note
that
the
increased
call
volumes
going
to
not
to
311
excuse
me
may
require
periodic
review
of
capacity
rates
for
three-on-one
call
takers
to
ensure
that
the
city
is
able
to
answer
Community
requests
at
or
above
current
service
level
in
the
future,
and
it
should
be
noted
that
we
only
do
311
calls
are
only
available
call
takers
only
available
Monday
through
Friday,
not
on
the
weekends.
The
second
pilot
is
established
on
an
overnight
shift
for
Traffic
Control
expanding
their
operation
to
24
hours
a
day
Monday
through
Friday.
AC
This
was
not
our
anticipated
outcome
and
has
not
and
is
not
proven
to
Be
an
Effective
use
of
resources
based
on
our
assessment
PMI.
Despite
the
data
not
supporting
the
continuation
of
this
pilot,
it
is
my
understanding
that
this
initiative
has
now
been
fully
implemented
and
has
received
additional
funding
with
that.
Pmi
is
always
available
for
further
assessment
and
discussion
with
the
parking
pilot
with
regulatory
services.
AC
The
final
non-emergency
response
pilot
is
training
civilian
staff
to
handle
theft
and
property
damage
reports
when
an
in-person
response
is
needed
with
shifts
resulting
from
the
recent
governance
restructure.
Designing
of
this
pilot
has
paused,
while
departments
are
adjusting
to
Staffing
and
operational
changes.
AC
Emergency
response
Pilots
before
I,
move
us
into
the
next
set
of
Pilots
I'd
like
to
pause
to
see.
If
anyone
has
any
questions
before
I
invite
Gina
o'berry
up
to
do
the
emergency
response,
Pilots
portion
of
it
presentation.
X
Vice,
chair
I,
did
just
have
a
quick
question.
You
you
talked
about
kind
of
the
package
deal
and
and
process
yeah,
so
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
you
could
talk
about
the
comprehensive
process
that
you
kind
of
go
into
when
designing
a
pilot
kind
of
like
from
start
to
to
finish,
like
the
methodology
of
that
and
I
say
this,
because
you
know
I
I
think
it's
very
interesting.
You
know
just
how
did
we
get
to
BCR
I?
AC
Chair
Vito
councilmember
wansley,
we've
discussed
it
before,
but
not
for
quite
some
time.
I
wasn't
prepared
for
that
question,
but
can
I
answer
it,
but
if
the
person
who
was
responsible
for
leading
every
piece
of
that
work
for
our
department
wants
to
come
up
and
explain
the
process,
so
you
can
see
how
we
arrive
to
where
we
arrive.
I'll
invite
Geno
Berry
up
to
answer
that
question.
AD
AD
Yes,
so
when
we
started
our
work
on
this
back
in
2019
the
what
was
called
the
alternatives
to
police
response
work
group
at
that
time
from
or
I
should
say,
911
MPD
work
group
was
transitioned
from
Andrea
Larson
to
our
team,
and
we
began
doing
further
research
Based
on
data
that
we
had
access
to
in
the
city
to
look
at
what
types
of
cause
police
were
responding
to,
and
the
work
group
had
decided
that
mental
health
emergencies
and
Non-Emergency
reports
were
the
areas
of
opportunity
that
we
want
to
focus
on.
AD
At
that
time.
From
there
we
continued
our
inner
interviews
with
subject
matter
experts,
both
in
the
city
and
externally,
to
learn
more
about
the
issues
that
we
were
working
on
and
then
that
helped
us
to
develop
a
survey
that
we
sent
out
into
community,
and
that
was
that
one
that
we
had
over
8
000
responses
to
which,
which
kind
of
corresponded
with
the
the
murder
of
George
Floyd.
AD
While
we
didn't
anticipate
that
we
didn't
align
it,
that
event
did
happen
and
that
increased
our
response
rate,
because
folks
really
want
to
share
what
their
experiences
had
been.
With
those
two
incident
types
from
there,
that
gave
us
a
lot
of
the
qualities
that
folks
were
really
wanting
to
see
in
these
new
responses
that
we
developed
and
then
gave
us
a
starting
point
of
what
we
took
into
our
design
workshops
with
community
members.
AD
And
so
in
those
we
were
able
to
use
all
of
what
we
learned
as
a
kind
of
foundational
to
provide
community
members
with
a
foundational
understanding,
along
with
looking
at
other
programs
that
existed
across
the
country
and
figure
out
what
pieces
made
sense
for
our
community
here
in
Minneapolis.
That
folks
wanted
to
see
other
pieces.
AD
They
wanted
to
leave
off
and
together
with
Community
design
the
pilots
that
you're
hearing
about
here
and
then
a
couple
others
that
did
not
receive
funding
back
in
2020
and
after
we
launched
the
pilots,
we've
been
continuing
to
evaluate
collect
data
and
monitor
them,
along
with
trying
to
get
community
feedback
on
how
these
changes
have
been
received.
AD
And
then
this
was
also
in
addition
to
that
reimagining
Public
Safety
awareness
campaign
that
you
might
remember
the
videos
and
images,
because
we
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
if
we
were
going
to
be
changing
a
service
level
or
adding
new
service
options
for
residents
that
we
took
an
intentional
effort
to,
let
them
know
that
these
changes
were
coming
and
how
that
how
they
could
access
them
and
going
forward.
X
Just
a
very
quick
follow-up
on
that:
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
also
how
you
determine
director
Smith?
You
mentioned.
You
know
which
relevant
or
appropriate
Department
how
that
process
is
determined.
I
ask
because
I
know
there
was
the
process
with
creating
the
office
of
community
safety.
Bcr
that
we're
discussing
today.
X
X
AD
And
I
can
start
us
off
on
the
answer
to
that
or
my
apologies
chair,
Vita,
Consul
or
Committee
Member
wansley
I'll
start
us
off
on
the
answer
to
that
and
then,
if
director
Smith
would
like
to
add
to
it,
then
I'll
pass
it
to
him.
AD
So
originally,
when
we
launched
the
BCR,
which
is
our
biggest
unarmed,
Public
Safety
pilot,
we
plan
to
do
a
pilot
phase
of
at
least
two
years.
It's
because
it's
such
a
large
Endeavor
and
undertaking-
and
it
takes
time
to
create
a
24,
7
365
response
from
scratch.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
being
thoughtful
and
intentional
in
in
really
figuring
out
the
best
ways
to
reach
back
into
Community
to
get
feedback
from
them,
because
the
nature
of
the
calls
that
the
BCR
is
responding
to
are
quite
sensitive.
AD
I
can
sometimes
present
challenges
of
getting
the
the
end
users
or
the
folks
who
are
actually
receiving
the
service
figuring
out
how
to
get
that
to
come
back
to
us.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
were
hoping
to
do
that
that
two-year
period
and
in
that
time
trying
to
figure
out
the
the
best
place
for
eventually
the
transition
of
the
pilot,
because
it
we
knew
that
it
was
not
going
to
remain
with
PMI
indefinitely,
because
we
are
a,
we
helped
design
the
service.
AD
And
then
we
pass
it
on
to
where
it
belongs
within
the
city,
because
the
the
BCR
is
unique,
it
didn't
have
a
clear
landing
spot
and
then,
with
the
government
restructure
that
also
kind
of
shook
things
up
a
bit.
So
I
think
that's
where
I'll
pass
it
to
director
Smith
to
say
a
little
bit
more
about
you
know
if
or
how
our
team
was
engaged
on
the
best
place
for
that
to
land
and
I'll
be
back
in
a
moment.
A
AC
Coming
Gina
council
member
chair,
Vita,
councilmember,
Wellesley
Gina
answered
the
question
thoroughly.
Is
this
one
additional
part
that
you
asked
that
she
didn't
speak
to,
and
that
is
we
don't
know
how
long
a
pilot
phase
will
be
for
everything
that
we
develop?
AC
That's
going
to
depend
on
the
analysis
that
we
do
what
the
actual
solution
is
or
the
pilot
that
we
land
on
is
and
how
ready
the
Enterprise
is
to
implement
it
fully
in
whichever
department
they
may
go
to
some
departments
are
more
capable
of
taking
something
on
something
new
on
than
others,
and
so
it'll
vary.
But
we
knew
something
that
of
this
scale
like
Gina
said,
would
need
at
least
two
years
for
us
to
Pilot
it
so
that
we
can
offer
the
support
to
our
vendors,
who
are
doing
the
wonderful
work
for
us.
AC
So
we
can
offer
support
to
MPD
who
they
work
with,
and
other
departments
9-1-1.
So
you
know
it
was
just
going
to
be
a
lot
of
Shifting
and
new
stuff
for
people,
and
so
we
knew
this
would
take
a
little
longer
about.
There
may
be
some
that
takes
six
months.
It
may
take
nine
months
or
a
year,
but
we
won't
know
until
we
do
a
thorough
assessment.
Okay,.
AD
And
then
adding
one
last
little
piece
like
the
director
Smith
said
some
of
the
other
Pilots
such
as
the
transferring
911
calls
to
3-1-1
and
then
the
the
overnight
traffic
control
shift.
Those
were
services
that
the
city
in
those
departments
already
provided,
and
so
that
makes
that
transition
a
little
bit
smoother
because
it's
expanding
rather
than
creating
something
new.
AD
Much
like
our
previous
set
of
Pilots
the
emergency
emergency
response,
Pilots
can
also
be
thought
of
a
package
deal.
These
Pilots
related
to
mental
health
crises
are
holistic
and
focused
on
each
phase
of
that
call
for
service
and
with
Community
similar
to
the
non-emergency
ones.
We
did
reimagine
this
process
from
the
point
when
an
individual
calls
the
city
for
service
to
when
that
call
is
answered
by
the
city,
and
then
the
city
sends
a
response
for
support.
AD
The
first
emergency
response
pilot
that
you
see
here
is
providing
additional
Mental
Health
Training
to
911
staff,
with
the
hopes
of
increasing
their
comfort
level
with
dispatching
the
BCR
to
eligible
incidents,
because
we
were
adding
a
new
Option
for
our
dispatchers
to
use.
We
wanted
to
see
what
we
could
provide
them
to
make
sure
that
they
had
all
the
tools
they
needed
to
assess
those
calls
coming
in
and
then
dispatch
the
appropriate
response,
which
is
what
they
are
already
experts
at
within
our
city.
AD
AD
The
second
pilot
is
the
BCR
we'll
be
going
into
more
detail
about
that
program
in
just
a
moment,
so
we'll
come
back
to
it.
But
I
do
want
to
note
that
PMI
is
working
with
the
Department
of
neighborhood
safety,
director
Josh
Peterson,
to
transition
the
BCR
to
that
apartment
or
Department,
beginning
in
2024..
So
we're
doing
a
kind
of
gradual
transition
throughout
this
year,
pulling
him
in
to
get
him
up
to
speed
on
some
of
the
different
pieces
related
to
to
the
BCR.
AD
And
then
the
last
pilot
you
see
on
the
screen
is
embedding
mental
health
professionals
within
9-1-1
to
provide
real-time
support
with
emergency
mental
health.
Calls
like
the
non-emergency
pilot
in
the
design
stage
that
we
discussed,
Above
This
pilot
was
also
paused.
A
made
government
structure
shifts
and
lessened
capacity
in
both
9-1-1
and
PMI.
AD
So
due
to
some
staffing
shortages
in
both
of
our
departments,
we've
been
at
capacity
for
a
while
and
911
has
done
some
hiring,
so
they
are
hopefully
getting
back
up
to
full
strength
there
and
we
will
be
entering
into
some
hiring
ourselves
soon
so
hoping
to
pick
this
back
up
in
the
near
future.
AD
Here
you
see
some
high-level
key
performance
measures
that
we've
presented
previously.
Those
metrics
have
been
updated
to
reflect
calls
from
our
launch
in
December
2021
through
the
end
of
the
bcr's
First
full
year
of
service
in
December
2022.,
the
average
response
rate
has
increased
to
about
140
calls
per
week.
AD
The
BCR
response
to
a
specific
set
of
emergency
calls,
one
that
involves
some
sort
of
Behavioral
or
Mental
Health
crisis,
where
no
weapons
or
violence
is
occurring
or
has
occurred,
and
no
medical
emergency
exists
and
drugs
or
alcohol
aren't
escalating
the
situation
they
can
be
present,
just
not
escalating
like
contributing
directly
to
that
being
heightened.
AD
An
important
note
is
that,
while
BCR
may
be
requested
through
911
dispatch
by
another
first
responder
such
as
police
or
fire,
the
incident
must
still
meet
the
above
criteria
for
the
BCR
to
accept
the
call-
and
this
is
is
largely
due-
is
we
want
to
make
sure
that
things
are
in
scope
so
that
we
can
provide
the
most
appropriate
support
to
community
members,
but
also
because,
right
now,
we
are
still
operating
with
only
those
two
Vans
across
the
city,
and
so
we
want
to
make
best
use
of
those
resources.
AD
Another
aspect
of
911
call
handling
is
the
use
of
pncs,
which
stands
for
problem
nature.
Codes
pncs
are
used
by
911
to
categorize
a
call
based
on
the
situation
on
the
scene,
and
each
PNC
is
tied
to
a
specific
response.
Team
or
I
should
say
specific,
potentially
single
response
or
combination
of
responses,
so
it
may
be
police
fire
and
medical
are
all
responding
or
any
variation
of
all
of
our
now
four
or
five
responders.
AD
Another
at
or
sorry,
oh,
no,
another
aspect
of
oh
VCR
eligible
is
my
apologies.
Bcr
eligible
calls
are
categorized
into
two
pncs
that
are
specific
to
the
BCR,
the
first
being
a
priority,
One
Call,
which
is
kind
of
a
more
serious
situation
and
the
second
being
priority.
Two
bcrw,
which
is
more
of
a
wellness
check,
kind
of
situation,.
AD
So
our
second
question
is
how
many
calls
were
eligible
for
our
BCR
response
when
that
call
is
answered
by
9-1-1.
It's
given
a
PNC
or
problem
nature
code,
but
as
911
call
takers,
listen
to
the
the
details
of
the
situation
that
PNC
might
change
for
various
reasons
throughout
the
course
of
the
incident.
Therefore,
a
call
may
be
given
many
PNC's
from
the
beginning
of
it
until
the
end.
AD
The
first
PNC
is
also
known
as
the
initial
PNC,
and
that
is
a
helpful
proxy
that
we've
been
using
to
measure
the
volume
of
eligible
calls
for
BCR
response.
Here
we
see
the
monthly
rates
of
two
types
of
PNC's.
We
combined
the
BCR
and
bcrw
PNC
and
then
that's
in
the
dark
blue
on
the
top
there
and
then
at
the
bottom,
and
the
light
blue
is
pic
which
stands
for
person
in
crisis
and
those
are
those
mental
health
related
calls
that
are
still
responded
to
by
our
Police
Department.
AD
Between
December
2021
and
June
2022,
the
total
number
of
eligible
calls
increased
consistently
and
then
during
the
second
half
of
the
of
the
year,
the
total
number
of
calls
assigned
to
BCR
initially
decrease,
except
for
October.
AD
And
while
there
are
many
potential
reasons
for
these
fluctuations,
one
reason
that
rises
to
the
top
is
the
frequent
breakdowns
we
had
within
this
past
year
of
the
current
BCR
Vehicles.
Both
vehicles
are
older
models
and
24
7
uses
really
hard
on
them.
So
that's
been
something
we've
been
in
conversation
with
our
Fleet
Department
to
see
if
we
can
work
on
getting
leased
vehicles
until
our
new
response
fans
are
fully
ready.
AD
AD
As
mentioned
on
the
previous
slide.
There
are
various
reasons
why
an
eligible
call
may
not
be
assigned
to
BCR,
one
of
which,
being
that,
when
BCR
is
out
of
service
again
for
those
if
those
vehicles
are
in
Fleet
for
maintenance,
we
would
expect
to
see
if
your
calls,
both
initially
assigned
and
responded
to
by
the
BCR.
AD
Now
we'll
take
a
look
at
where
BCR
teams
are
responding
on
the
left,
you'll
see
BCR
response
broken
down
by
Ward,
with
the
darker
shades
of
blue
indicating
a
higher
response
volume.
We
can
easily
see
that
Ward
7
has
the
highest
volume
of
BCR
responses
through
the
end
of
quarter.
Four,
the
table
in
the
middle
provides
the
actual
number
of
responses
each
word
received
during
that
first
year
of
service.
AD
Now,
looking
at
the
map
on
the
right,
which
is
visualized
at
the
neighborhood
level,
with
Wards
outlined,
we
have
a
more,
we
have
more
detail
about
which
communities
are
receiving
the
highest
rates
of
service
and
those
darker
orange
Shades
indicate
higher
response
volumes.
Here.
AD
AD
Our
next
question
is
how
were
these
calls
resolved
all
first
responder
agencies
track
how
a
call
was
resolved
before
they
close.
The
report
out
in
the
computer
assisted
dispatching
system
that
responder
agencies
have
and
that
911
uses
to
send
the
details
of
that
call
and
the
exact
definitions
of
each
resolution
code
can
vary
between
each
agency.
So
we
want
to
share
a
bit
about
the
way
that
the
majority
of
BCR
calls
were
resolved
within
that
first
year.
AD
The
top
three
most
frequent
ways
that
those
calls
were
resolved
were
that
responders
provided
de-escalation
services
and
resources
to
people
in
crisis
or
their
family
members
or
friends
that
they
may
have
been
supporting
them
on
a
scene
and
that
depended
on
the
situation
for
other
calls.
The
person
in
crisis
may
be
gone
by
the
time
the
BCR
arrives
on
scene,
and
this
could
be
because
they
receive
support
from
community
members
before
BCR
arrived
or
that
they
simply
left
the
area
associated
with
the
call
and
the
BCR
was
unable
to
locate
them.
AD
AE
Good
afternoon,
chair,
Vita,
Vice,
chair
Payne
and
committee
members,
thank
you
for
having
me.
My
name
is
Marissa
Stevenson
interim
program
manager
with
the
behavioral
crisis
response
team,
with
canopy
roots
in
the
City
of
Minneapolis,
so
some
successes,
we
have
more
funding.
Thank
you
so
much.
It
really
allows
us
to
scale
up
and
be
able
to
hire
people
to
improve
the
functioning
of
the
program,
such
as
hiring
admin
staff,
HR
staff,
support
training,
onboarding
and
Community
engagement.
We're
also
able
to
get
the
word
out
there.
AE
Responder
job
satisfaction
is
still
very
high.
Canopita's
yearly
staff
surveys
that
are
focused
on
gauging
supported,
valued
Staff
feel
at
canopy.
How
culturally
responsive
the
organization
is,
how
they
feel
about
the
culture
and
direction
of
the
company,
how
fulfilled
they
feel
in
their
work
and
canopy
got
very
high
marks
pretty
much
across
the
board.
In
terms
of
satisfaction,
we
also
got
some
helpful
feedback
about
improvements
we
need
to
make,
particularly
with
leadership,
communication
and
changes
in
benefits.
Staff
are
hoping
to
see.
AE
Some
of
the
challenges
are
Staffing
so
as
we
hire
people
something
sometimes
they're,
things
that
go
awry,
start
dates
and
training
are
very
structured
and
inflexible,
which
makes
it
difficult
to
start
folks
when
it's
most
convenient
for
them,
particularly
with
part-time
folks.
They
need
to
start
in
their
cohort.
Also
overnights
on
Saturdays
and
Sundays
are
hard
to
fill.
Recently,
we've
been
able
to
hire
outside
and
outside
recruiting
firm
for
this
with
the
expanded
funding
that
was
very
helpful,
we're
otherwise
prepared
to
go
24
hours.
Seven
days
a
week.
We
just
are
still
working
on
Staffing.
AE
AE
Some
of
it
is
systematic
at
the
crisis
residencies
and
some
of
it
is
there's
just
not
enough.
Openings
for
recipients,
shelter
connect
has
been
a
great
resource
for
us.
The
hours
are
limited
and
we
can't
always
utilize
it
depending
on
the
time
warming
stations
for
overnights
are
very
much
needed,
in
addition
to
family
shelters
that
have
access
to
night
and
overnight
capacity.
AE
Some
of
the
rewards
we've
had
a
lot
of
positive
Community
feedback,
positive
comments.
Affirmations
from
community
members,
as
we
interact
with
recipients
and
we're
excited
to
close
gaps
in
care.
Bcr
is
responding
to
emergency
mental
health
calls.
We
refer
to
cope
stabilization
Services
when
necessary
and
also
again
1800
Chicago
is
a
great
resource
for
people.
AF
What
this
looks
like
in
person
is
when
we
respond
to
a
call
to
community
members,
we're
able
to
listen
to
them,
hear
what
they're
experiencing
hear
a
person
portion
of
their
story
determine
Acuity
of
the
situation
and
then
collaborate
with
them
with
the
resources
that
we
can
provide
and
information
that
we
can
provide
and
skills
that
we
can
provide.
So
they
can
make
an
informed
decision
to
help
them
move
through
the
distress
that
they're
experiencing
in
the
moment.
AF
That
can
look
differently
from
situation
to
situation
and
individual
to
individual
I
know
that
there's
been
concerns,
sometimes
with
recurring
calls
where
there's
been
a
caller
who's
repeat.
Calling
mental
health
emergencies
look
a
lot
different
than
other
types
of
emergencies.
People
who
are
struggling
with
mental
health,
sometimes
like
Insight,
there's
stigma,
there's
lots
of
reasons
why
there
are
barriers
to
them
being
able
to
move
forward.
But
each
time
that
we
have
contact
with
them,
we're
able
to
build
rapport,
draw
on
those
things
that
I
mentioned
and
help
the
person
move
forward.
AF
I
want
to
share
a
quick
antidote
before
I
step
down.
We
had
a
Community
member
who
called
multiple
times
a
week,
sometimes
multiple
times
a
day.
They
experienced
anxiety,
Sometimes
some
delusions.
When
we'd
arrive,
they
would
have
to
clear
barriers
from
their
door.
We
would
talk
with
them
and
alert
talking
with
them.
We
learned
the
strengths
that
they
had.
They
were
very
curious,
creative.
AF
They
had
inner
resources
that
helped
them
manage
the
distress
that
they
were
experiencing
and
over
time
as
we
were
able
to
develop
a
relationship
with
them,
they
were
willing
to
work
with
us
in
kind
of
questioning
some
of
what
they
were
experiencing
so
that
we
could
get
them
to
the
resources
they
needed.
I
work
at
a
time
of
day,
where
there's
not
as
many
resources
and
one
of
those
times
of
distress
the
individual
agreed
to
let
us
transport
them
to
the
hospital
from
there.
AF
AF
AE
All
right,
lastly,
there
has
been
some
frustrations
and
just
one
has
been
vehicle
issues
that
have
created
gaps
in
service
and
oftentimes.
Community
members
don't
have
the
full
story
and
then
there's
misinformation
being
spread
about
why
BCR
isn't
in
service,
but
it's
not
anything
other
than
Vehicles
not
being
able
to
drive
them
safely.
So
it's
been
highly
frustrating
for
our
staff,
who
are
sitting
in
the
office
or
out
on
foot
in
the
community,
trying
to
make
connections
or
in
the
Skyway
who
are
ready
and
eager
to
work.
AE
New
Vans
are
on
backorder
I've
heard
that
they're
here,
which
is
very
exciting.
It's
just.
It's
been
difficult,
interacting
with
some
of
the
city
run
departments
with
Fleet
there's
been
some
miscommunications,
sometimes
not
prioritizing
BCR
Vehicles
Etc.
So
here
is
the
new
van
one
of
the
new
Vans
and
we're
very
excited
to
be
able
to
provide
our
services
to
the
community
with
with
consistency.
So
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
AC
Council
member
veto
community
members
they're
here
with
actually
Yay
new
fans.
It
only
took
almost
two
years,
but
we
we
have
Vans,
and
so
here
is
a
picture
you
can
see
when
the
upfitters
told
us
that
the
Vans
were
available.
AC
They
wanted
to
bring
one
over
to
show
us
and
I
called
chair,
Vita
and
councilmember
Payne
to
be
a
part
of
going
in
the
mayor's
office
to
be
a
part
of
going
to
see
the
Vans
along
with
dc4s
and
others
to
just
get
an
idea
of
what
the
vans
look
like,
and
so
they
look
great.
They
wanted
to
bring
them
to
us
to
make
sure
everything
was
the
way
we
wanted
them,
and
so
we
have
two
Vans
here
with
a
third
on
the
way
and
these
Vans
should
be
on
the
street.
AC
Now
by
next
week
they
told
us
two
weeks,
but
we
just
had
to
move
a
few
things
around.
They
have
wheelchair
lifts
and
tables,
and
child
seats
and
storage
and
everything
that
we
designed
for
and
so
thankful
to
Fleet
Services
and
the
folks
over
there,
because
they
did
a
really
really
good
job
of
sitting
down
with
us.
Our
community
members,
folks
from
canopy
to
to
really
have
a
thorough
discussion
about
what
was
needed
on
the
Vans.
AC
AD
R
AC
The
first
time
so
we're
gonna
have
these
vans
on
the
street,
and
so
we'll
have
enough
Vans
to
be
on
the
street
and
quality
vans
that
are
backups
and
not
ones
that
you
know.
I,
don't
even
know
how
to
describe
the
vehicles
we
have
now,
but
they've
made
it
work.
AC
AC
Okay,
just
making
sure
I'm
in
the
right
place
here
all
right,
so
I
just
wanted
to
thank
Marissa
and
Jesse
for
sharing
their
experience
today
and
using
their
expertise
and
supporting
the
community
for
people
in
crisis.
There's
a
few
people
that
don't
have
all
my
notes
that
I'd
also
like
to
thank,
because
if
it
were
not
for
them
throughout
this
process,
we
wouldn't
be
here
so
not
Blackie,
so
that
would
be
bird
Osborne
and
dc4s.
AC
Literally,
we
talk
about
what
BCR
I
mean,
what
canopies
done,
what
PMI
has
done
and
what
other
Community
Partners
have
done,
but
internally,
if
it
weren't
for
these
two,
we
wouldn't
be
where
we
are
today.
So
I
don't
like
coming
out
here
without
thanking
them
as
well,
especially
when
they're
present.
So
thank
you
both
for
helping
us
get
to
where
we
are
so.
This
slide
highlights
and
summarize
the
information
that
we
just
heard.
AC
Future
design
possibilities
as
we
transition
various
Pilots
to
other
departments,
we're
exploring
opportunities
to
to
develop
an
unarmed
response
pilot
for
other
call
areas
as
well.
We'll
soon
begin
another
phase
of
community
engagement
to
determine
which
incident
types
community
members
are
most
hopeful
for
new
or
reimagined
responses.
AC
A
Z
You,
madam
chair
director,
Smith,
thank
you
for
the
great
presentation
to
your
staff.
Thank
you
on
this
future
design
possibilities.
If
I
could
offer
a
suggestion.
Yes,.
I
Z
A
X
Thank
you
share
everything
I
just
wanted
to
First.
Just
shout
out
our
phenomenal
PMI
staff,
and
specifically
you
director,
Smith
I,
know
the
work
that
you
lead
and
really
spearheading
the
development
of
our
unarmed
Safety,
Services
I'm
sorry
can
we
have
one
mic
or
someone
whisper
I
just
want
to
again
just
say.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership.
I
know
this
work
has
not
been
easy
in
this
city
and
championing
this
specific
work.
X
It
has
not
been
always
faced
with
the
broad
level
of
appraise
that
we
see
right
now,
especially
in
light
of
the
successes
of
BCR
and
I,
just
want
to
thank
you
for
continuing
to
Champion
this
work
in
the
midst
of
all
the
mess
that
often
Comes
Your,
Way
and
helping
us
continue
to
be
a
leader
in
developing
unarmed
services.
X
I
am
super
excited
to
see
you
all
continue
developing
possibilities
and
and
programs
around
a
number
of
these
things.
You
already
know
I'm
a
big
advocate
for
victim
services
and
support
I
brought
forward
a
budget
amendment
in
supporting
this
very
thing.
Majority
of
my
colleagues
voted
it
down,
but
I'm
glad
to
see
that
this
is
still
a
possibility.
I
also
name
experience
around
loud
music
and
parties.
X
Even
my
friends,
just
a
couple
weeks
ago
in
a
community
room
had
like
a
typical
Kickback
and
a
neighbor
called
the
cops
on
it,
because
we
have
some
music
playing
and
eight
cops
showed
up
for
music
in
a
residential
property,
and
that
happened
a
week
after
Tyrese
Nichols
was
killed.
It
was
traumatic
for
a
bunch
of
black
and
brown
people,
so
I
would
love
to
see
this
also
be
explored
tenant
in
neighbor
trouble.
I
know
my
office
and
I
know
some
of
our
other
residents
that
have
shy.
X
You
all
provide
that
Clarity,
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
our
staff
for
showing
up
again
in
the
midst
of
this
city
that
can
be
ratchet
and
still
leading
on
phenomenal
quality
work
because
I'm
going
to
name
two.
All
this
is
data
backed
you.
You
provided
evidence.
I
constantly
asked
for
that.
I
just
asked
for
that
earlier
and
you
provide
numbers.
This
is
all
evidence-backed.
X
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
This
is
profoundly
humbling.
For
me,
I
I
was
joining
you
on
your
side
of
the
Deus
at
the
beginning
of
this
work,
and
it
it
wasn't
beyond
my
wildest
imagination
that
I'd
be
sitting
on
this
side.
C
Celebrating
this
work
as
deeply
as
we
are,
and
I
actually
just
returned
from
a
delegation
to
Washington
DC,
along
with
Chief
O'hara
council
president
and
a
number
of
other
colleagues,
and
we
actually
just
were
able
to
thank
Senator,
Klobuchar
Senator,
Smith
representative
Omar
on
granting
us
this
additional
funding
for
these
the
opportunity
to
pursue
these
future
design
possibilities
and
Senator
Klobuchar
specifically
was
asking
about.
C
Senator
to
celebrate
this
work
is
not
what
I
thought
at
the
beginning
of
this
work,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
how
profoundly
humbling
that
is.
I
was
actually
really
disappointed.
That
I
was
going
to
miss
the
BCR
celebration,
because
my
flight
wasn't
returning
and
then
I
saw
that
it
got
canceled,
because
some
folks
weren't
able
to
get
there
so
I
hope
you
didn't
cancel
it
because
of
me.
C
AC
Thank
you,
chair
Vito.
There
was
a
couple
of
points
because
of
some
things
that
councilmember
rainville
was,
in
my
pain,
said
that
I
wanted
to
address
just
to
give
more
information
since
it
came
up,
and
that
is
to
council
member
rainville's
Point.
We
hear
you
we're
on
it
with
the
youth.
AC
Our
plan
for
part
of
the
2.5
million
dollars
is
to
do
a
youth,
specific
Outreach
portion
to
our
work
and
to
our
design,
so
that
it
is
specifically
designed
with
for
and
by
youth,
to
take
care
of
those
issues
around
youth
issues
with
police
and
emergencies
and
whether
they're
Law,
Abiding
and
all
the
above.
AC
So
we
want
to
be
intentional
about
that
engagement
and
we're
going
to
use
part
of
that
2.5
million
dollars
to
work
specifically
with
youth
serving
organizations
so
that
that
work
is
actually
driven
by
young
people
and
not
old
people
like
myself,
who
think
we're
still
cool
and
get
it
so
we're
doing
that
and
to
council
member
Wesley's
point
the
victim
services
and
support
that
rolls
to
the
top.
AC
The
last
time
we've
made
recommendations,
but
out
of
all
the
recommendations
that
we
made,
there
was
only
one
that
wasn't
funded
by
the
council
and
that's
because
we
quite
honestly,
we
still
need
to
do
some
more
work
on
it.
We
were
disappointed,
but
we
needed
to
do
some
more
work
on
it,
but
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
come
to
the
city,
whether
it's
the
3-1-1,
whether
it's
the
911,
whether
that
kind
of
sits
into
either,
because
we
don't
have
a
really
good
system
so
that
we
can
respond
to
people
and
so
to
us.
AC
This
seemed
like,
in
addition
to
that,
so
we
want
to
be
able
to
dig
and
find
out
what's
going
on
with
those
things
that
people
aren't
responding
to.
We
know
when
somebody
swipes
your
mirror.
If
you
make
a
call,
you
ain't
gonna
find
out
who
knocked
the
mirror
off,
or
somebody
stole
your
bike
out
of
your
garage
and
things
like
that.
You
won't
find
nine
times
out
of
ten
and
don't
come
back,
but
what
we
need
to
do
as
a
city
is
be
responsive,
at
least,
and
at
least.
AC
I
thought
I
broke
it
track,
what's
going
on
and
then
respond
to
people,
because
what
citizens
have
been
telling
us
is,
they
at
least
want
a
response,
and
they
at
least
want
to
know
that
the
city
cares
about
what
happened,
even
if
it's
not
recovered
and
the
same,
and
that
goes
into
the
victim
Services
as
well,
where
people
are
like
well,
can
you
at
least
discuss
if
you
don't
find
out?
Who
does
it?
AC
Is
there
some
sort
of
program
that
we
can
build
to
respond,
and
so
that
that
sits
at
the
top
council
member
was
they
have
of?
Where
we're
going
to
be
going
next
and
to
council
member
Payne's
point
about
the
celebration.
AC
Yep,
a
lot
of
people
were
gone,
I
didn't
know,
a
lot
of
people
were
going
to
be
gone,
and
so
we're
going
to
reschedule
the
celebration,
because
now
we're
well
past
the
year
of
the
wonderful
work
that
BCR
has
done
and
is
doing
and
the
wonderful
work
that
people
have
to
continue
to
do
in
the
city.
Not
just
PMI
police
have
to
continue
to
work
with
them.
9-1-1
has
to
continue
to
work
with
them.
3-1-1.
AC
Now,
we're
still
trying
to
figure
some
things
out,
because
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
back
and
forth,
sometimes
about
what
is
considered
public
purpose
and
who
we
can
celebrate
and
who
we
can't
celebrate,
and
so
it
got
rescheduled.
While
we
try
to
figure
out
some
of
that
along
with
people
not
being
available.
AC
But
we
appreciate
what
all
of
you
have
done
for
us
past
and
present
to
continue
to
fund
the
work
that
we're
doing,
and
we
appreciate
our
partners
who
continue
to
spread
the
word
about
this
too,
and
we
couldn't
do
it
without
everybody.
AC
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Director,
Smith
I
have
a
few
questions.
You
did
say
that
you
have
two
vehicles
that
are
being.
A
AC
Currently
operating
right
now,
the
two
raggedy
used
vehicles,
okay,
but
the
two
new
vehicles,
one
of
which
you
saw
the
upfitting,
is
finishing
right
now,
so
they
have
to
add
radios
and
stands
for
things
like
that,
and
they
should
be
operational
fairly
soon,
so
they've
been
delivered,
we've
seen
them
that's
at
the
Fleet
Services
building,
so
we've
seen
them
it's
just
a
few
more
tweaks
on
them
and
they
can
be
on
the
streets.
A
A
Then
I
I
have
a
question
about
the
actual
contract
with
canopy.
Is
there
anything
in
the
contract
like
like?
Is
there
any
type
of
stipulations
or
anything
around
if
a
call
is
made,
and
there
is
no
response?
Rather
it's
a
vehicle
I
mean
you
all
have
talked
about
staffing
issues.
So
is
there
anything
that
we
that
I
need
to
know
about
the
contract
when
there
is
a
call
made
and
the
BCR
can't
show
up
for
oh
canopy
can't
show
up
for
some
reason.
No.
AC
AC
If
a
call
is
made
and
either
vehicles
are
down
or
if
there
to
call
and
just
can't
make
it
to
another
one,
because
there's
only
two
Vans
you,
we
just
have
to
wait
in
queue,
but
there
is
an
understanding
not
in
the
contract
but
amongst
the
partners
that,
if
BCR
isn't
available
for
something
that
they
stop
police
from
going
to
their
police,
if
they're
available
will
go,
although
and
so
and
then
they
also,
as
you
heard
the
BCR
say,
if
the
Vans
are
down,
they
don't
just
sit
on
their
hands,
then
they
walk
to
the
skyways.
A
AF
A
Like
the
9-1-1
callers,
when
the
calls
come
in
and
they
may
not
know
what
is
their
line
of
communication
about
the
Vans
being
broke
down
like
on
the
front
end
saying
okay,
we
can't
have
BCR
Services
via
a
vehicle.
Today
we
can
only
work
in
the
skyways
or
you
know,
like
the
services
can
only
be
given
on
foot
yeah.
AC
We're
working
with
council
member
chair
Vito
we're
working
on
that
now,
so
when
it
happened
the
last
couple
of
times
we
started
to
talk
about
and
it's
not
in
the
contract,
but
we're
trying
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
respond
to
that?
Because
you
know
if
somebody
says
well,
ECR
didn't
show
up
because
they
all
went
to
the
beach.
You
know
when
that
gets
out
in
the
public.
AC
N
AC
Josh,
the
old
oovp,
so
that,
when
things
like
this
happen,
we're
able
to
quickly
communicate
something
out
from
the
city
that
says,
Vans
are
down
for
the
next
couple
of
hours,
we'll
be
back
up
and
running
so
that
wasn't
built
into
the
contract.
That
is
one
of
the
things
that
just
is
a
point
of
learning
through
what
we
call
the
pilot,
and
so
that's
happened
enough
times
now,
where
we
want
to
get
that
under
control
and
make
sure
that
we
can
communicate
as
quickly
as
possible
when
that.
A
Happens
so
there
is
a
level
of
communication
where
The
Operators
know
like
today
we
don't
have
BCR
services
available
or
over
the
next
couple
hours
or
something
like
that.
Yes,
so
the
reason
why
I'm
asking
this
question
is
because
last
year
there
were
a
lot
of
conversations
around.
A
You
know
the
need
for
BCR
instead
of
police
and
that
people
who
maybe
someone
one
of
the
presenters
spoke
to
like
a
particular
person
who
calls
a
lot
right
and
like
if
this
person
is
expecting
BCR
to
show
up,
and
then
we
have
a
police
officer
show
up
and
stay
said
like
that,
could
be
problematic
right
like
that,
that's
what
we're
trying
to
avoid.
A
We
want
to
use
BCR
in
those
situations,
and
sometimes
people
become
familiar
with
that
so
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
like
how
it's
communicated
to
the
entire
chain
of
folks
who
are
a
part.
You
had
a
really
good
slide
about
like
how
the
call
is
taken,
how
it's
given
out
and
like
how
that's
communicated
to
everyone
within
the
system
if
BCR
is
not
available,
not
even
just
like
if
the
Vans
are
broken
down.
But
if
they're
I
mean
there's
clearly
a
staffing
issue
so
like,
if
they
just
can't
come
to
a
call
yeah.
AC
Her
respond
because,
thank
you,
I'm
sure,
I
left
something
out
so
I'll.
Let
you
know
thank
you.
AD
Thank
you,
director,
Smith,
chair,
Vita
committee
members,
just
to
add
a
little
bit
to
what
director
Smith
was
sharing.
AD
Is
that,
as
far
as
things
being
written
into
the
contract
relating
to
this,
it's
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we're
clear
that
these
are
not
all
issues
related
to
canopy,
specifically
that
the
vehicles
are
city-owned
vehicles
that
you
know
our
Fleet
manages
their
maintenance
and
things
like
that,
and
so
that
doesn't
reflect
on
canopy
when
those
have
to
go
in
for
those
that
that
service
and
whatnot
and
again,
we've
been
working
with
Fleet
to
try
to
figure
out
if
we
have,
if
we
can
get
newer
vehicles
that
are
are
more
consistently
available
in
the
meantime,
while
we're
waiting
for
the
new
Vans,
but
also
some
of
these
questions
relating
to
the
communications
aspect
would
be
more
appropriate
for
our
911
department,
so
BCR
when
they
know
that
the
vehicles
are
going
to
be
out
of
service,
does
communicate
directly
with
9-1-1
so
that
they
are
aware
and
know
how
to
manage
those
resources
on
their
end
and
that
that's
not
my
understanding
when
I've
shadowed
on
the
floor
of
9-1-1
and
when
I've
had
conversations
with
both
Joni
the
director
and
other
911
staff.
AD
Is
that
that
the
reasons?
Why
isn't
always
a
conversation
that
they
would
get
into
with
a
caller
even
for
other
emergency
responders
if
they
are
all
available
out
on
calls,
and
so
calls
are
sitting?
That's
not
something
that
is
really
a
thing
that
that
the
person
in
crisis
is
going
to
have
the
exact
reasons.
Every
time
for
that
911
are
the
experts
in
figuring
in
in
how
they
communicate.
AD
Who
is
coming
if
they
communicate
that,
but
a
lot
of
times
things
move
so
fast
that
a
call
May
transfer
from
the
call
taker
over
it
to
dispatch
and
then
dispatch
assesses
who
is
available
based
on
the
call
type
and
again,
if
those
calls
are
sitting
for
a
longer
amount
of
time
and
BCR
is
not
available,
they
would
eventually
be
changed
to
that
pic
code
that
you
saw
that
person
in
crisis
which
would
get
a
MPD
response.
AD
So
there
are
processes
in
place
to
manage
that
when
BCR
is
out
of
service,
but
I
did
just
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
not
negative
associations
coming
back
on
canopy
for
things
that
are
outside
of
their
control
and
then
to
reiterate
about
the
pilot
nature
of
the
program.
It
takes
a
while
to
staff
up,
you
know
a
24
7
program
period,
but
something
as
unique
as
the
BCR
and
requires
a
certain
skill
set.
A
certain
you
know.
AE
Yes,
or
do
you
have
funding
for?
Yes,
we
do
have
funding
for
it,
so
on
weekends.
If
we
were
fully
staffed,
we'd
have
12
people
on
the
weekend
as
well.
AE
Then
the
full
time
full
time
will
be
12
right
now,
so
we're
fully
staffed
with
12
full-time
during.
AG
A
C
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
say
one
of
the
kind
of
side
benefits
of
BCR
is
especially
in
the
wake
of
the
murder
of
George
Floyd.
There
was
a
real
big
movement
to
not
call
9-1-1,
because
people
were
afraid
of
having
police
show
up
and
escalate
and
I've
just
been.
It's
been
really
great
to
be
able
to
go
to
my
community
meetings
and
say
you
know
you
should
emphatically
call
9-1-1
every
single
time.
You
are
worried
about
something,
because
I
can
speak
to
the
BCR
as
an
available
responder,
particularly
for
those
folks
that
were
concerned.
C
If
police
were
not
the
right
response
and
I
think
there's
a
side
benefit
of
that
of
now.
Rebuilding
that
trust
of
relying
on
9-1-1
as
the
single
and
sole
emergency
number
that
you
call
and
I
think
that
was
actually
one
of
the
most
important
things.
That's
going
back
to
a
question
that
councilmember
wansley
had
around
you
know
what
was
our
process
for
Designing
it?
It
was
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
those
Community
sessions.
C
C
You
know,
reaffirm
the
confidence
in
our
community
around
our
Public
Safety,
Services
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
highlighted
that,
and
even
when
you
know,
BCR
isn't
the
right
response.
Now
we
are
getting.
Those
911
calls
when
people
at
a
time
were
very
hesitant
to
call
9-1-1.
So
that's
just
a
really
big
success
as
well.
So
thank.
A
You
thank
you
and
your
comment
just
made
me
remember.
I
have
another
question:
I
promise
it's
the
last
one.
You
all
said
in
the
presentation
and
I
could
have
missed
it
that
you
gave
us
the
amount
of
calls
that
the
BCR
responded
to
do.
You
know
the
number
of
calls
you
actually
got,
though.
So,
like
the
total
number
of
calls,
we
have
in
the
presentation
how
many
you
responded
to.
AD
So
when
you
so
when
you
say
got
you
mean
that
we're
eligible
that
came
into
9-1-1
and
then
the
call
taker
assessed
that
this
is
an
appropriate
call
for
for
BCR.
Yes,
that
I
would
have
to
follow
up
to
add
up
the
total
I
know
that
we
had
on
the
screen,
but
I,
don't
think
that
we
included
a
total.
You
know,
I
didn't
see
it
in
there
yep.
So
that
is
something
I
can
certainly
follow
up
with
after
we
meet
today.
A
Y
Be
quick!
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
real
quick,
Ms,
o'berry
I,
first
I
wanted
to
say
I
appreciate
been
on
Public
Safety
ride-alongs,
particularly
recently
with
our
fire
department,
and
it
is
really
impressive
how
much
coordination
there
is,
even
if
they
are
dispatched
to
something
how
even
some
of
our
other
First
Responders
are
asking
for.
Bcr
as
a
response
and
I
do.
Y
I
do
believe
that
there
would
be
a
lot
more
calls
responded
to
if
there
was
more
Staffing
in
Vans
and
that
type
of
thing,
but
overall,
just
to
put
it
in
the
bigger
context.
Approximately.
How
many
calls
for
service
does
this
represent
from
9-1-1
calls
for
service,
like
what
percentage
is
BCR
taking
off
the
shoulders
of
other
types
of
response,
police
or
fire.
AD
An
excellent
question,
and
one
I
will
also
have
to
to
follow
up.
The
data
is
very
complex,
and
you
can
imagine
that
the
full
data
set
with
all
911
calls
is
very
large,
so
I'll
connect
with
Marisha,
McAdoo
and
we'll
take
a
look
to
see
if
that's
something
that
we're
able
to
pull
or
if
we
might
need
to
connect
with
our
partners
in
it.
For
some
assistance
with
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
and
seen,
or
further
discussion,
I'll
direct
the
clerk
to
receive
and
file
that
presentation
that
report.
Our
next
item
is
a
discussion
item
and
a
presentation
providing
information
regarding
the
administration
of
the
police
department's
buyback
program.
An
overview
of
our
current
practices
and
policies
of
off-duty
contracts
and
I'm
here
to
present
is
Deputy
force
and
Thomas
bacon.
Welcome
and
thank
you
for
being
so
patient.
It's
been
a
long
day.
AH
AH
AH
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
I'm
deputy
chief
force
of
the
Minneapolis
Police
Department
I'm
here
to
present
the
presentation
on
the
buyback
program.
AH
Leading
off
like
to
discuss
a
little
bit,
what
is
buyback
buyback
is
overtime
hours
that
are
worked
by
sworn
staff,
Beyond,
regular
and
overtime
operations
of
the
department.
These
Buy-Back
hours
are
voluntary,
Precinct
and
other
required
overtime
and
regular
work.
Time
takes
precedent.
Mpd
does
limit
the
number
of
hours.
Employees
can
work,
that
is
in
policy,
and
that
includes
all
Buy-Back
hours.
AH
AH
If
the
requester
there
needs
to
be
a
contractual
Arrangement,
if
the
requester
is
external
to
the
city
and
the
MPD
charges
based
on
the
number
of
hours
worked
here,
you're
going
to
see
a
graph
that
goes
over
overtime
hours
worked,
those
that
is
the
largest
of
the
The
Columns
that
you
see,
and
that
includes
just
over
time,
that
all
manners
of
overtime
to
the
right
of
that.
AH
You
will
see
the
percentages
of
what
buyback
is
in
comparison
to
the
total
hours
of
overtime,
and
that
will
be
discussed
further
in
this
next
pie
graph.
AH
But
as
you'll
see
in
comparison
to
the
amount
of
overtime
work,
buyback
hours
worked
are
a
much
smaller
percentage
of
the
total
amount
of
overtime
hours
worked,
and
here
you'll
see
that
that,
in
comparison
to
overtime,
the
amount
of,
if
you
include
buyback
and
overtime
work,
buyback
is
7.4
percent
of
the
over
of
the
overall
overtime
worked
when
broken
down
the
buyback
that
we
work
for
Grants
and
task
forces
is
2.5
percent
of
the
hours
as
a
percentage
of
total
buy
back
in
overtime
hours
worked,
and
this
is
cumulative
from
2018
to
2022..
AH
The
buyback
that
we
work
at
venues
is
2.6
percent
private
buyback
that
you'll
see
with
different
groups
and
neighborhood
associations
that
initiate
buyback
that
constitute
one
percent
of
the
hours.
As
a
percentage
of
total
buyback
and
overtime
hours
worked,
internal
or
related
departments
is
0.8
percent
buyback
worked
under
the
Justice
assistant.
Grants
is
0.5
percent
to
a
total,
as
I
said
before
of
buyback
is
7.4
percent
of
of
the
totality
of
of
extra
hours
worked.
AH
So
when
I
mentioned
things
like
the
grants
and
task
forces
and
venues
I'll
go
through
and
describe
them
a
little
bit
for
you,
the
task
force
is
in
defined
grants.
These
are
federal
and
state
departments
and
agencies.
AH
The
buyback
from
this
is
initiated
either
through
the
command
or
the
chief
or
assistant
chief
or
Deputy
Chief,
and
it's
approved
through
the
assistant
chief
and
also,
as
you
saw
before,
with
the
buyback
and
relating
to
the
the
other
things
that
were
voted
on
today.
They
come
through.
They
are
approved
through
console
process,
buyback
these
BuyBacks
support
and
complement
or
enhance
the
mission
of
the
department
and
address
specific
issues.
AH
AH
AH
There's
a
determination
made
that
security
is
important
enough
at
these
venues
to
ensure
the
safety
of
the
community
at
high
visibility,
venues
and
again
we're
discussing
usually
our
larger
scale,
sports
and
entertainment
venues
these
by
these
services
that
we
provide.
They
can
help
the
venues
qualify
and
obtain
the
Department
of
Homeland
Security
safety
act,
designation,
which
benefits
not
only
the
venue
but
also
brings
added
security
to
the
community
who
are
attending
these
events.
These
are
generally
initiated
through
the
commander
of
Special
Operations
and
approve
to
the
by
the
deputy
chief
and
assistant
chief
again.
AH
All
revenue
contracts
such
as
these
do
get
approved
through
the
council
process.
Time
work
limitations,
Mission,
are
defined
by
agreement
with
this
entities
and
determined
up
front
evaluation
of
the
program
is
done
jointly
with
the
venue.
Is
there
the
ability
to
meet
these
security
requirements,
public
perception
and
safety
at
these
events
and
maintaining
security,
designations
and
certifications?
If
applicable,
again,
examples
of
this
are
the
major
stadiums:
U.S
Bank
Stadium
Target
Center
Target
Field
Theater
venues,
a
hunting,
Bake
Stadium
things
of
that
nature.
AH
AH
The
other
entity
defines
the
need
requirements,
timing
success
and
provides
the
oversight.
Typically,
these
hours
are
charged
directly
to
other
departments.
The
work
in
these
buyback
is
primarily
related
to
things
such
as
snow
emergencies
and
regulation
of
traffic
around
construction
sites,
and
the
evaluation
is
provided
by
the
internal
entity.
Again
examples
of
this
Public
Works
traffic,
construction,
snow
emergencies,
anything
with
the
Park
police
or
with
the
convention
center.
AH
These
must
be
a
legal
entity
with
the
ability
to
contract
with
the
city.
These
are
initiated
by
The
Entity,
either
the
commander
or
usually
the
inspector
of
a
Precinct.
The
hours
work
Mission
are
defined
by
The
Entity,
but
with
the
input
and
guidance
of
the
MPD
official
being
the
commander
or
inspector.
AH
AH
These
are
overtime
hours
that
are
worked
by
sworn
staff,
Beyond,
regular
and
overtime
operations
of
the
department,
so
these
would
essentially
be
officers
who
are
working
on
their
off
time
again.
These
are
these
are
not
obligatory.
These
are
voluntary
if
the
shifts
don't
get
filled,
they
don't
get
filled
and
it's
using
people
who
are
off
and
wouldn't
be
in
working
unless
they
elected
to
do
so
again.
AH
Evaluation
of
these
BuyBacks
is
by
the
Contracting
organizations.
Some
of
these
things
are
a
little
bit
less
data
driven
such
as
public
perception,
community
relations,
improving
public
trust,
which
is
again,
you
measure
the.
How
do
you
measure
what
doesn't
happen
if
people
are
looking
for
greater
presence
if
they're
looking
for
a
police
to
be
more
visible
or
engaged
in
the
business
corridors,
but
we
also
do
I
back
in
relation
to
Crime,
Trends
and
data
as
well.
AH
Examples
of
some
of
these
private
entities,
as
you
can
see,
are
different
neighborhood
associations
at
downtown
improvement,
district,
Uptown,
Special,
Service,
District
and
entities
such
as
that
buyback
under
the
Justice
assistant
grant
program.
This
is
a
federal
program
that
is,
that
provides
support
to
State
and
local
governments.
AH
Its
use
is
initiated
through
commanders
or
inspectors
who
provide
a
specific
plan
for
usage.
These
plans
are
approved
by
the
deputy
chief
and
assistant
chief
again.
The
purpose
is
to
address
specific
crime,
Trends
or
occurrences
in
precincts
and
usually
involve
a
specific
defined
area.
This
supplements
regular
overtime,
an
example,
would
be
an
uptick
in
robberies.
AH
Examples
of
this
Are
Special
Operations,
the
use
of
our
bicycle
rapid
response,
team
and
other
Precinct
operations
again
providing
extra
Patrol
and
extra
presence
in
areas
that
we're
seeing
defined
crime
Trends
in
these
are
some
of
the
examples
of
buyback
that
have
occurred
over
the
last
10
years.
Kind
of
going
over
a
little
bit
of
everything.
AH
I
won't
read
every
single
one
of
them
to
you,
but,
as
you
can
see,
it
does
go
from
neighborhood
associations
to
Grant
related
things
such
as
Cold
Case
investigations,
services
with
drug
court,
human
trafficking
investigations,
providing
security
presence
and
services
at
our
major
Stadium
venues
working
with
our
partner
City
agencies
such
as
public
works
for
snow
emergencies
and
helping
out
with
enforcement
of
DWI
and
DWI
home
court
visits
with
that.
I
would
like
to
introduce
Thomas
bacon
from
our
strategic
analysis
unit
and
he
is
going
to
go
over
some
of
the
data
in.
K
AH
AI
Foreign,
thank
you,
sir
sir
Council
Thomas
bacon
data
scientist,
so
this
was
originally
just
a
explanation
to
the
team
that,
while
looking
over
the
scheduling
data
that
involves
buyback
over
time
Etc
all
that
data
is
not
very
large
on
its
own
but
to
bring
context
into
it
as
our
partners
at
canopy
Roots
talked
about
with
the
calls
for
service
data,
the
automated
vehicle
location
data,
all
of
that
is
fairly
large,
and
so
in
order
to
collapse.
AI
My
original,
like
90,
page
presentation
down
into
a
couple,
slides,
that's
kind
of
what
this
is
about,
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
note
that,
because
our
calls
for
service
system
doesn't
have
a
way
to
it's,
not
a
scheduling
tool,
so
it
doesn't
know
that
X
officer
is
working
X
fund
or
X
program.
AI
At
this
time
there
is
small
margin
of
error
present,
and
that
is
mostly
revolving
the
canine
unit,
because
they
tend
to
work
more
than
one
Fund
in
a
day,
if,
like
the
Target,
Center
bomb
sweeps
are
going
on
and
then
they
also
happen
to
work
a
different
buyback
fund
that
same
day,
it
just
became
a
little
bit
error
prone
to
pin
down
what
exactly
they
were
doing
at
that
given
time,
but
every
other
major
fund
that
margin
of
error
is
drastically
reduced
as
well
as
overtime.
It's
even
less
than
five
percent.
AI
And
so
then
a
lot
of
these
units
a
lot
of
these
funds.
They
don't
tend
to
all
work
in
a
call
taking
capacity
or
response
capacity,
and
so
really
at
the
end
of
the
day.
It
was
whittled
down
to
about
these
funds
that
you
see
on
the
screen,
so
the
first
precinct
Riverside
Neighborhood
safety.
Fourth
precinct
NRP,
which
I
believe
is
the
National
revitalization
Pro
or
the
neighborhood
revitalization
program
for
the
Hawthorne
neighborhood,
the
bicycle,
rapid
response,
team,
downtown
community
engagement,
Lowry,
Hill
and
then
all
four
Precinct
Jag
beats.
AI
And
then
we
have
the
auto
theft,
present
prevention
program,
snow,
emergency
traffic
towards
zero
death,
Uptown
and
then
also
a
note
that
these
other
task
forces
won't
really
be
analyzed
because
again,
when
they
sign
up
for
these
buy
back
or
they're
working.
These
buyback
funds
they're
not
acting
in
a
call
taking
capacity,
so
it
just
wouldn't
be
relevant
to
analyze,
no
calls
so
a
cumulative
breakdown
of
what
buyback
funds
have
looked
like.
As
far
as
a
call
taking
capacity
from
2018
to
2022.
AI
The
auto
theft
prevention
program
is
going
to
be
a
lot
lower
where
that
time
is
spent
on
a
call
for
service,
because
what
they're
doing
is
a
little
more
specialized.
However,
it
does
come
up
time
to
time
that
they
might
see
a
suspicious
vehicle
or
have
a
stolen
recovery
things
of
that
nature.
So
that's
why
that
number
appears
much
lower
than
the
rest
of
the
grouping.
AI
AI
We
started
in
2018
with
a
thousand
hours
worked
for
that
year
and
then
it
started
to
Pace
off
over
to
2021,
but
this
last
year
we
saw
a
big
ramp
up
in
452
hours,
worked
for
that
buyback
fund,
Lowry
Hill
being
the
largest
last
year,
with
nearly
2
000
hours
worked
for
that
specific
buyback
fund
and
then
of
note
with
relevant
Trends
with
autofs.
The
auto
theft
prevention.
Buyback
fund
had
almost
a
thousand
hours
submitted
this
year
or
this
last
year
in
2022.
AI
So
I
wanted
to
point
that
out
as
well
and
then
the
third
precinct,
with
a
almost
1200
or
1200
hours,
worked
for
2022
and
then
kind
of
to
touch
back
on
the
comparisons
that
we
were
showing.
Where
buyback
really
only
makes
up
a
small
percent
of
total
overtime
worked.
I
was
going
to
show
additional
context,
so
one
second
I'm
going
to
pull
away
from
presentation.
AI
So
that's
what
comprises
the
gun,
violence
index
and
isolated
here
as
well?
What
you're
going
to
see
through
the
demonstration
is
the
overtime
the
violent
crime,
Hot
Spot
general
fund
worked
by
officers
from
2022
through
2023
again
up
until
a
couple
weeks
ago,
so
as
the
slider
progresses
neighborhood
by
neighborhood,
we'll
see
a
slight
coverage
coming
over
Lake
Street
and
then
I'll
also
kind
of
point
out
some
of
these
neighborhoods
down
in
the
powder
Powderhorn
Park
vicinity.
AI
As
we
see
a
lot
of
Auto
thefts
and
things
related
to
that,
but
along
Lake
Street,
we
have
really
good
coverage
from
overtime
working
officers
as
well
as
in
the
East
Phillips
neighborhood
group
going
up,
Hiawatha
Minnehaha,
as
well
as
in
the
Whittier
Park
neighborhood,
and
then
up
into
Stephen,
Square
throughout
downtown
and
then
coverage
throughout
downtown
and
as
we
go
up
into
the
north
on
the
most
dense
neighborhoods
for
again
the
violent
crime
gun
violence
index.
We
have
almost
perfect
coverage
through
these
funds
being
worked
by
overtime
officers.
AI
So
that
is
an
explanation
of
this
application
and
then
the
second
application
yeah
if
it
loads.
Here
we
go
again,
it's
a
similar
thing
and
I
can
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
questions
afterwards.
But
in
the
effort
to
save
some
time
basically
livability
calls.
The
livability
indexes
calls
that
we
Define
as
things
that
are
not
violent
in
nature,
but
disruptive
and
maybe
person
in
crisis
drunken
disorderly
person
down
outside
of
business.
Possibly
things
of
that
nature.
AI
AI
This
Broadway
Lindell
Corridor
would
be
like
the
final
example
of
coverage
for
overtime
with
these
selected
funds
and
then
back
to
the
presentation.
AI
And
so
then,
just
to
wrap
this
up
I'll
just
kind
of
speed
through
these
so
back
to
buy
back.
These
are
the
accumulations
from
2018
to
2022
of
where
the
automated
vehicle
locations
were
aggregating.
So
it's
a
density
map
of
where
these
officers
were
working
under
these
specific
funds,
so
the
traffic
towards
zero
death.
We
have
pretty
good
coverage
throughout
almost
the
entirety
of
the
city,
as
you
can
see,
kind
of
extensions
and
branches
off
the
major
highway
arteries,
auto
theft.
Prevention.
AI
AI
Fourth
precinct
Hawthorne
neighborhood,
as
we
can
see
it
might
be
a
little
difficult
to
see,
but
the
Hawthorne
neighborhood
on
the
base
map
is
labeled
right
here
right
where
the
density
of
the
Hawthorne
neighborhood
location
would
be
downtown.
Community
engagement,
snow
emergency,
pretty
holistic,
city-wide
coverage,
as
we
might
expect
as
the
whole
city
is
not
immune
to
snow
Precinct.
AI
One
Jago
t
Precinct
2
Precinct
3,
Lowry
Hill,
and
then
this
was
more
or
less
defined
as
Lowry
Hill
East
Lowry
Hill,
but
as
we
can
see,
the
densest
area
is
within
those
two
neighborhoods
Uptown
Special
Service
uptown
special
service
was
a
little
trickier
to
Define,
as
the
boundary
tends
to
kind
of
cut
off
on
certain
streets.
But
for
the
most
part
the
density
would
overlap
with
what
most
people
would
Define
as
uptown.
AI
First
precinct
Riverside
the
Cedar
Riverside
Neighborhood.
The
density
again
falls
in
the
Cedar
Riverside
Neighborhood
and
then
just
to
note
that
this
was
only
occurring
during
2019
similar
thing
with
the
P4
Jago
T
was
in
2019,
and
that
would
be
it
for
me.
I
can
stand
and
take
any
questions
unless.
A
Thank
you,
council
member
Payne,.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair
yeah.
I
just
have
my
original
legislative
directive
up
just
to
kind
of
remind
myself
what
I
was
looking
for,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
trying
to
understand
was
around
the
types
of
organizations
or
entities
that
are
eligible
to
receive
these
BuyBacks.
C
And
then
you
know
what
that
vetting
process
looks
like
and
alter
and
kind
of
related
to
that
is
who
defines
the
mission
and
I
I
know
that
for
some
of
these
categories,
that
that
was
predetermined
up
front,
but
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
expand
on
what
that
predetermination
looked
like
in
terms
of
defining
the
mission
of
those
those
shifts.
Yes,.
AH
Chair
Vita,
council
member
Payne,
no,
it's
it's
a
wide
variety
because,
as
you
can
see,
you
know,
buyback
has
a
it.
There's
the
term
buyback,
but
it
it
means
a
lot
of
different
things.
AH
It
could
be
if,
if
someone
was
working,
take
like
the
auto
theft,
prevention,
buyback
and-
and
that
could
be-
you
know,
funded
through
the
state
and
it
helps
manage
our
bait
vehicle
placement
and
the
you
know
the
upkeep
and
maintenance
of
that.
So
that's
that's
fairly
defined
and
rigid
right,
the
buyback
that
we
may
have
with
stadiums
provide
bomb
sweeps
and
swap
Services,
very
specific
and
defined
and
Mission
oriented
with
that.
AH
Then
you
may
have
you
know
a
neighborhood
association
that
says
we
would
like
or
a
Business
Association,
we'll
say
we'll
say
we
want
to
have
more
officer
we'd
like
to
have
some
officer
presence
during
our
business
hours
to
so,
customers
feel
more
welcomed
and
they
feel
more
safe
and
we'd
like
to
have
additional
presence,
so
the
parameters
around
that
would
be
well.
AH
What
would
if,
if
what
you're
looking
for
is
increased
safety
during
your
business
hours,
and
we
would
you
know,
Assist
them
in
setting
those
parameters
around
their
business
hours
and
that
and
that
would
be
essentially
you
know
what
would
be
the
best.
The
best
time
for
that
you'd
probably
be
only
a
four
hour
period,
would
be
the
ideal
time
period
for
something
like
that,
so
that
would
be
kind
of
how
it
would
work,
because
you
want
it
to
be.
You
wanted
to
be
beneficial.
AH
You
want
to
be
responsive
to
the
community
or
to
the
people
that
are
seeking
this
as
well.
So
you
want
to
what
is
it
that
they're
looking
to
do?
What's
the
best
way
to
get
that
done,
and
how
could
we
do
it
in
such
a
manner
that
it's,
actually,
that
is
reasonable
and
it's
something
that's
attainable,
because
it
wouldn't
be
attainable
reasonable
for
someone
to
say
they
want
someone
there
for
12
hours.
AH
That's
just
not
going
to
happen,
so
you
want
to
work
that
to
create
something
that
it's
it's
going
to
be
not
only
either
beneficial
to
to
Public
Safety
and
having
a
good
presence
somewhere.
But
it's
going
to
be
beneficial
to
the
community
and
being
responsive
to
the
community
and
giving
them
the
service
that
they're
asking
for.
C
C
Does
this
analysis
give
you
maybe
a
stronger
idea
of
what
types
of
private
entities
you
will
and
won't
partner
with
you
know
if
I'm,
a
wealthy,
individual
and
I
have
resources
that
are,
you
know
sufficient,
can
I
just
decide
to
and
get
into
a
buyback
contract
to
have
a
squad
car
parked
in
front
of
my
house,
or
does
it
need
to
be
some
like
public
purpose?
That
is
beyond
that
a.
AH
Chair
Vita
council
member
pain,
yes,
there
needs
to
be
some
sort
of
a
public
safety
Mission.
Obviously
this
needs
to
be
beneficial
to
the
core.
The
core
service
of
I
said
like
providing
Public,
Safety
or
or
helping
to
be
responsive
to
a
community
group
or
be
responsive
to
the
community
and
the
constituency.
So
you
know,
many
of
these
things
are
are
not
things
that
we
would
be.
We
would
be
dedicating
on
duty,
resources
toward
and
and
as
I
said
they're
they
they
enter
into
this
with
the
knowledge
that
this
is.
AH
This
is
completely
voluntary.
It
is
not
taking
resources
away
that
would
you
would
be
putting
somewhere
else,
because
it's
people
working
them
during
their
time
off
and
they're,
not
under
any
obligation
to
do
so,
and
it
does
provide
a
public
safety
benefit
in
the
sense
that
we
have
uniformed
officers
who
are
on
duty
and
and
I
know
personally
that
during
times
of
Crisis,
I
have
called
them
back
to
duty
and
now
I
have
them
at
my
disposal.
AH
C
And
then
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
pull
up
the
heat
map,
interactive
heat
map
and
do
your
gun,
violence
index
and
I
just
a
want
to
compliment.
I
think
this
is
such
a
really
great
visualization
to
help
build
understanding,
and
also
it's
really
helpful
to
see.
You
know
this
kind
of
positive
correlation
in
some
of
our
areas,
but
then
I'm
when
I'm,
looking
at
Bryn
Mawr
as
an
example
and
I
think
Laura
Hill
also
had
reflected
this.
C
There
wasn't
as
much
of
a
direct
correlation
between
where
those
patrols
were
and
where,
in
this
instance,
the
gun
violence
is
so
that
that
was
actually
my
biggest
concern
with
this
program
of
maybe
that's
not
exactly
where
we
should
be
deploying
resources
if
we're
looking
at
where
the
hot
spots
are
of
the
types
of
circumstances
that
we
are
trying
to
respond
to
and
where
the
patrols
are
actually
being
directed.
C
So
I'm
really
hoping
that
this
is
going
to
shape
how
we
manage
these
programs,
but
I'm
wondering
had
that
been
a
consideration
prior
to
this
analysis
and
then
will
it
be
a
consideration
now
that
you've
kind
of
done
this?
This
leg
work.
AH
That
not
all
of
our
buyback
is
focused
on
gun.
Violence
is,
as
you
can
imagine,
what
you're
seeing
you're,
seeing
that
when
you're
dealing
with
and
I
will,
let
Thomas
speak
to
I
think
it'd
be
best
for
him
to
describe
what
are
the
overtime,
the
overtime
that
we're
talking
about.
That's
going
into
this,
so
we
can
at
least
be
sure
that
we're
talking
about
the
right
overtime.
AI
This
is
the
violent
crime,
Hot
Spot
general
fund
overtime
fund,
so
this
is
more
to
the
tune
of
the
pie
chart
and
the
graph
that
DC4
has
presented
earlier
that
the
the
overwhelming
majority
of
coverage
for
overtime
related
activity
is
for
these
overtime
funds
and
not
necessarily
the
buyback
funds.
So
this
was
just
to
provide
additional
context.
Was.
C
C
AH
It
so
a
to
your
point,
councilman,
chair,
Vita,
to
councilman
Payne,
we're
dealing
with
you
know,
I
think
you
know
when
you
look
at
the
private
entities
and
I
and
I
I
think
to
go
back
to.
AH
Slide
number
four:
when
we
looked
at
2022,
the
buyback
and
overtime
worked,
the
the
amount
of
you
know.
Private
private
buyback
is
one
percent
of
the
of
the
pie,
and,
and
some
of
these
are
are
you
know,
you
start
slicing
them
down
and
now
you're
dealing
with
fractures
of
the
one
percent
of
the
pie.
N
AH
And
and
as
I
said,
you
know,
the
community
organizations
come
forward
and
say
that
they'd
like
to
partner
with
us
or
that
they
would
they
have
these
desires
to
have
additional
police
services,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
fit
the
parameters
of
serving
Public
Safety
interest,
but
also
in
being
responsive
to
the
community
as
well
and
and
knowing
that
these
contracts
all
come
before
you
and
and
and
for
the
I,
would
say
the
final
vetting
process
on
that.
Z
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
It's
getting
very
late
and
I
appreciate
everybody's
patience.
I
just
want
to
compliment
you
Thomas
on
these
heat
maps
that
you
created.
You
know
it's
very
clear
that
the
gun
violence,
heat
map
matches
well
with
the
overtime
and
and
that's
the
complement
to
the
police
department.
So
the
resources
of
the
police
department
are
matching
up
with
the
need
in
the
community
when
you're
spending
your
overtime,
that's
very,
very
clear,
and
you
you've
made
that
quite
evident
with
your
technology.
So
thank
you
Thomas.
Thank
you.
A
AH
Council
members,
thank
you
and
again.
I
would
like
to
compliment
Thomas
and,
and
our
staff
is
strategic
analysis.
They
do
a
wonderful
job,
parsing
out
data,
sometimes
with
systems
that
really
aren't
meant
to
kind
of
measure.
What
it
is
that
that
it's
measuring
and
and
help
make
things
clear
for
everybody.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
will
allow
key
up
the
off
duty
presentation
and
introduce
deputy
chief
Schoenberger.
AG
Okay
off
duty:
what
is
it
just
speaking
broadly,
it's
any
job,
whether
sworn
or
civilian,
that
is
worked
outside
of
the
normal
hours
and
not
for
the
City
of
Minneapolis.
So
we
have
just
as
an
example,
a
police
officer
who
wanted
to
learn
how
to
roast
coffee
as
a
off-duty
job
at
Dunn
Brothers
that
has
to
be
approved
through
their
supervisor.
That's
an
off-duty
job.
We
have
a
civilian
who
has
an
off-duty
job
as
a
medical
examiner
for
another
County
that
has
to
be
listed
as
an
off-duty
job.
AG
Most
of
our
off
duty
jobs
are
police
officers
working
in
uniform
for
a
private
party
who's,
paying
us
to
do
that,
not
during
the
course
of
our
normal
hours.
So
I
did
just
want
to
capture
that
off
duty
as
a
as
a
concept
is
much
broader
than
just
what
most
people
think
foreign
there's
an
approval
process
that
you
have
to
go
through.
So
if
I
am
Contracting
with,
say
a
business
nearby
that
wants
to
hire
off-duty
officers
that
has
to
be
entered
into
Workforce
director.
AG
That
approval
process
goes
to
my
supervisor
and
also
has
to
be
signed
off
by
either.
My
inspector
or
commander,
and
then
each
year
those
have
to
be
renewed
on
an
annual
basis,
so
any
jobs
that
were
approved
in
2020
or
rather
2022
if
I
want
to
work
them
this
year.
That
has
to
be
reapproved
by
my
supervisor.
AG
So
there's
this
ongoing
renewal
process,
not
just
for
me
as
an
employee
to
work
that,
with
the
approval
of
my
supervisor,
but
also
for
that
site
to
be
approved
as
an
off
as
an
acceptable
off-duty
job,
the
payment
and
scheduling
off
off-duty
hours
is,
is
negotiated
exclusively
between
the
site,
contact
and
the
business.
So
if
again,
if
say,
one
of
The
Office
Buildings
nearby
wants
to
hire
off
duty
police
officers
to
do
security
at
their
door,
and
they
see
me
walking
by.
AG
They
can
grab
me
and
say:
hey
we'd
like
to
hire
off
duty
police
officers.
I
would
then
enter
into
a
negotiation
with
them
for
what
I'm
willing
to
receive
his
payment
for
that
and
and
all
of
that's
based
on,
say
the
number
of
hours,
the
time
of
day,
the
number
of
shifts
that
they
want
to
fill
and
essentially
Market
forces
that
could
determine
the
rate
of
pay.
AG
Each
off-duty
site
that
hires
sworn
police
officers
has
to
have
a
coordinator
often
will
refer
to
that
as
a
scheduler.
So
if
you
pick
a
local
grocery
store
that
has
off-duty
officers
working
every
night,
there's
one
person
that's
going
to
be
in
charge
of
that
site.
They're
the
point
of
contact
for
the
business
they're,
the
one
that
negotiates
the
the
wages
and
they're
the
one
that
schedules
the
officers
to
work
there.
AG
That
is
the
point
of
contact
for
supervisors
or
the
city
or
anyone
else
that
wants
more
information
about
who
works
there
and
when,
as
far
as
fiscal
information,
we
do
not
have
a
fiscal
analysis
of
off-duty
hours
worked
or
wage
information,
because
that
is
private
information
between
the
the
site
coordinator,
the
officers
that
work
there
and
the
the
business.
That's
that's
paying
for
the
off-duty
work.
So
well
anecdotally,
we
might
have
an
idea
of
what
the
going
rate
is.
AG
We
don't
have
actual
evidence
to
know
what
you
know
what
the
range
is
or
what
the
average
is.
So
because
we
don't
track
that
internally,
we
just
have
to
sort
of
guess
based
on
job
openings
that
are
being
posted
either
through
the
Federation
or
email
list
groups
that
show
what
the
going
rate
would
seem
to
be.
But
we
don't
have
actual
data
on
that.
AG
One
of
the
questions
that
you're
looking
for
information
on
is
changes
since
the
audit
of
off-duty
work.
One
of
those
changes
was
MPD
policy.
3-310,
it's
a
limitation
on
hours
worked
policies.
It
explicitly
calls
out
that
the
maximum
hours
worked
are
accumulation
of
not
just
your
on
duty
hours,
but
off-duty
hours
worked.
So
it's
regular
time.
AG
It
has
to
be
your
first
priority
and
that's
explicitly
called
out
in
the
in
the
policy
and
then
any
off-duty
hours
worked
are
are
supplemental
to
that,
the
new
time
keeping
system
that's
being
built
out
to
replace
Workforce
director
and
the
city's
time
King
system
as
it's
being
developed.
AG
We
are
ensuring
that
that
is
the
ability
to
capture
both
on
duty
office
hours
worked
and
off-duty
hours
worked,
so
the
idea
would
be
that
officers
will
need
to
enter
those
off-duty
hours
worked
into
the
same
time
keeping
system
so
that
supervisors
are
able
to
see
how
many
hours
they're
working
it
will
make
auditing
that
data
much
more
easy.
AG
If
it's
all
in
one
system
right
now,
it's
much
more
complicated
to
try
to
capture
the
number
of
on-duty
and
off
duty
hours
worked
collectively
to
make
sure
that
officers
are
under
the
Max
hours
worked
policy.
The
the
policy
for
off-duty
work
tracking.
There
is
no
racial
Equity
impact
analysis
that
can
be
done
on
that.
So
that's
not
something
that
we
have
and
then
just
to
call
out
again
that
after
you,
work
is
negotiated
between
the
off-duty
employer
and
the
officers
that
work
there.
AG
Some
important
things
to
note
about
the
city's
ability
or
the
police
department's
ability
to
manage
off-duty
work.
There's
a
1997,
injunction
and
settlement
agreement
that
states
officers
have
the
right
to
directly
contract
with
off-duty
employers.
AG
The
MPD
can't
impose
any
restrictions
that
would
explicitly
or
constructively
eliminate
the
right
of
officers
to
directly
contact
with
off
duty
employers
and
finally,
officers
are
not
allowed
to
act
as
Brokers,
and
each
officer
must
have
direct
contact,
a
direct
contract
with
the
off-duty
employer.
So
those
are
things
that
are
called
out
in
the
1997
injunction
that
that
restrict
what
we
can
and
can't
do
in
terms
of
managing
off-duty
work,
some
quick
Trends
on
off
the
unemployment.
AG
As
you
can
see
over
the
last
five
years,
I
guess
we'll
go
back
to
2019.
Since
then,
there
was
a
big
dip
and
it
slowly
come
up
again,
but
still
trailing
off
a
little
bit.
I'll
note
that
2023
is
only
reflective
of
year.
To
date,
numbers
of
officers
worked
or
actually
the
the
bar
chart
is
number
of
hours
worked,
obviously
or
early
in
the
year
and
there's
a
lot
more
off-duty.
AG
That
gets
worked
during
the
summer
time
for
different
events,
but
we
still
believe
that
it
is
significantly
lower
than
normal
and
then
approximately
200
different
officers
have
worked
part-time
this
year,
which
represents
maybe
25
to
30
percent
of
the
Departments.
But
again
that
number
is
trending
down.
AG
We
don't
exactly
know
why
that
might
be,
but
obviously
there
are
fewer
offers
to
work,
and
it's
also
possible
that
the
the
cost
of
hiring
Off
Duty
Officers
has
gone
up
to
the
point
that
not
as
many
sites
can
continue
to
pay
for
that,
but
that
would
be
speculation
sites
for
which
employees
have
requested
approval
to
work
off
duty.
AG
This
year,
only
a
little
over
100
looks
like
about
120
sites
are
approved
for
off
duty
work,
that's
down
significantly
from
2018,
where
it
was
just
under
500.
So
again
far
fewer
businesses
are
hiring
Off,
Duty
Officers.
AG
There
are
a
couple
of
different
off-duty
management
models
that
we
could
potentially
consider
and
I'll
share
which
what
those
are
and
which
ones
we're
using
decentralized,
is
businesses
and
organizations
contract
directly
with
officers
officers
handle
their
own
coordination
of
the
work,
including
scheduling
rates
of
pay.
All
of
that
that's
the
model
that
we
currently
employ.
AG
AG
The
city
sets
the
base
rate,
or
maybe
it's
based
on
the
officer's
overtime
rate,
but
all
of
that
is
set
by
the
city,
that's
the
centralized
model
and
then
there's
a
partially
centralized
where
the
department
can
manage
the
off
duty
work
for
a
particular
venue
or
employer
and
they'll
coordinate
the
scheduling
and
the
off
duty
work
may
be
managed
by
the
off-duty
officers
independently,
but
there's
some
oversight
by
the
the
city
and
some
by
the
employer.
So
just
quickly
the
local
police
departments,
like
us,
Brooklyn
Center,
uses
a
decentralized
model.
AG
Centralized
includes
St,
Paul,
Duluth,
Bloomington
Rochester,
all
among
the
biggest
cities.
In
the
state,
except
for
us,
and
that's
a
recent
change
in
Saint
Paul
and
then
partially
centralized
Edina
as
an
example
of
that
and
across
the
country,
all
three
different
models
are
employed
questions.
Thank.
A
You
for
the
presentation,
DC
Schoenberger
and
oh
councilmember,
wansley.
X
Thank
you,
chair
Vita,
DC
I,
just
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
kind
of
similar
to
councilmember
Payne.
Reviewing
the
original
legislative
director
of
I've
been
seeing
some
pieces
that
are
still
kind
of
missing
the
first
being
around
the
the
pavement
aspect.
X
In
the
2019
audit
report,
there
was
a
recommendation
that
the
city
eliminate
cash
payments
specifically
and
also
with
the
city
taking
over
billing
and
having
remittance
of
off-duty
wages,
as
most
cities
do
rest,
some
of
which
you
name
and
sharpen
that
we
don't
have
that
information.
You
even
highlighted
through
speculation.
X
That's
probably
discouraging
some
of
the
participation
around
off
duty,
because
I
even
have
heard
from
businesses
in
my
world
where
one
business
will
be
cited
200
per
hour,
another
will
three
hundred
dollars
per
hour
and
it's
sad
that
we're
not
able
to
report
back
to
the
public.
What
is
a
average
base
of
rates
around
this
particular
service?
But
that
said
is
this
something
that
MPD
is
working
on
with
HR
again?
X
This
was
recommended
in
the
2019
report,
so
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
why
this
was
also
not
something
that
was
Advanced
over
this
time
period.
AG
Thank
you
for
the
question
the
1997
injunction
is
basically
my
understanding
is
that's
what's
preventing
us
from
taking
over
management
of
it,
and
so
we
do
have
the
City
attorney
that
has
looked
at
that
and
we
are
taking
our
advice
from
them.
But
I
do
believe
that
that's
the
the
biggest
barrier
in
that
it
doesn't
give
us
the
authority
to
take
over
management
of
part-time,
even.
X
Right
then,
I'm
actually
interested
to
know
is:
is
this
something
that
could
be
revoked
or
taken
up
in
a
police
contract?
In
terms
of
I
mean
this
1997
injection
is
almost
as
old
as
I
am
so
is
this
something
that
could
be
Revisited
and
thinking
of
how
we
can
be
in
alignment
with
the
recommendations
from
the
2019
audit
of.
AJ
Chair
Vita,
council
members,
Bert
Osborne
assistant,
City
attorney
I
I,
our
office
views
the
1997
injunction
and
settlement
agreement
to
be
in
full
force
and
effect
it
it
it.
The
the
very
first
paragraph
says:
the
city
agrees
that
Minneapolis
police
officers
have
the
right
to
contract,
to
provide
services
during
their
off-duty
hours
and
to
wear
the
uniform
badge
and
gun
while
performing
such
off-duty
services.
AJ
So
the
the
97
agreement
really
is
almost
fully
embodied
in
the
current
Police
Department
policy
on
off-duty
work,
no
brokering,
no
working
inside
of
liquor
establishments,
things
like
that
and
the
police
department
has
to
sign
off
on
each
officer
working
for
the
off-duty
employer,
and
so
you
know
I.
You
know,
as
with
all
suggestions
of
changing
thing.
AJ
You
know
the
devil
can
be
in
the
details,
but
you
know
right
now
if
the
MPD
wanted
to
and
I'm
not
privy
to
any
conversations
going
on
between
the
MPD
and
the
Federation
on
any
policy
changes.
But
if
the
MPD
wanted
to
pursue
some
sort
of
policy
change
or
changed
practice
of
tracking
hours
or
even
going
further
than
that,
the
first
thing
they
would
do
I
think
is
sit
down
with
the
Federation
and
discuss
that
and
so
I
I
hope
that
is
responsive
to
your
question.
Council
member.
X
Yeah,
so
what
you've
shared?
Do
you
see
what
you've
share
a
City
attorney
in
order
for
the
city
to
actually
have
our
oversight,
which
was
also
a
key
recommendation
from
this
audit
of
the
lack
of
oversight
around
this
program?
So
we
don't
have
things
like
cash
payments.
That
would
then
be
something
that
needs
to
be
challenged
or
taken
up
through
Police
contract
negotiations.
That's
what
I'm
hearing.
AJ
I,
don't
I
don't
know
if
if
it
would
necessarily
be
in
Police
contract
negotiations?
That
is
where
some
of
these
conversations
take
place,
but
it
would,
at
the
very
least,
be
at
the
at
the
negotiation
table
in
in
a
meet
and
confer
setting
with
the
Federation,
and
you
know
it
that
off-duty
policy
is
a
policy
of
the
MPD
and
to
if,
if
you
change,
if
you
propose
to
change
a
policy,
we
have
a
duty
under
Peller
to
meet
and
confer
with
the
Federation.
So.
X
AJ
Again,
I
have
not
seen,
but
I
have
not
put
my
eyes
on
any
specific
proposals
of
any
kind,
but
that
that's
the
general
framework.
Thank.
X
You
you've
got
to
the
answer
on
that
question.
Thank
you.
The
next
piece
is
you
know.
One
point
of
consension
for
the
public,
and
that
has
also
been
documented
by
the
media
is
the
perception
that
private
companies
not
only
have
access
to
MPD
as
we're
you
know,
going
through
Staffing
challenges,
just
getting
a
sense
of
you
know
has
MPD
consider
updating
the
guidelines.
X
I
know
you
talked
a
little
bit
some
of
that
and
some
of
the
updating,
the
policies
of
what
is
acceptable,
off-duty
work
that
can,
it
seems
like
right
now
like
if
an
officer
wants
to
include
a
new
site,
they
could
just
go
and
and
so
have
the
form,
and
then
the
form
automatically
be
accepted.
Is
that
kind
of
the
practice
right
now.
AG
No,
it
does
have
to
go
through
an
approval
process,
so
it
is,
it
is
entered
into
the
system,
but
that
still
has
to
be
approved.
The
site
has
to
be
approved,
and
so
we
have
staff
internally
that
review
those
to
make
sure
that
they
are
aren't
a
prohibited
site.
So
adult
entertainment.
AG
The
City
attorney
stated
liquor
establishment.
Those
sites
are
prohibited,
so
it
is
reviewed,
it's
not
an
automatic
approval,
you
don't
just
enter
it
and
then
start
working.
Okay,.
X
And
it
seems
like
there
is
a
limited
category
that
will
prohibit
some
establishments
from
being
considered
by
outside
of
that
that's
the
process
and
the
last
question.
One
big
piece
of
this
legislative
directive
was
around
recommendations
for
implementing
administrative
fees,
which
was
also
reflected
in
the
2019
audit
report.
Of
again,
the
perception
of
the
city
is
covering
the
liability.
In
case
anything
happens
through
off
duty,
there's
usage
of
city
property
to
perform
off-duty
work.
This
is
not
something
we
could
allow
our
plumbers
and
Public
Works
to
do
so.
X
Just
thinking
of
the
proposals
that
you
provided,
they
see
them
in
alignment
with
what
was
in
that
2019
audit
report
I
it
just
where
are
we
at
and
actually
pursuing
a
potential
proposal
of
looking
at
a
centralized
process
where
we
can
charge
a
fee
for
those
administrative
usages?
So
just
getting
a
sense
of
that
you
got.
You
have
a
general
overview
of
what
options
are
out
there.
Are
there
a
pursuit
of
any
one
of
those
particular
options?
Sure.
AG
Vita
councilmember
wansley.
Thank
you
for
the
question
right
now
we
are
exploring
some
of
those
options,
but
again
whether
it's
something
that
would
need
to
be
negotiated
whether
mean
confer
or
you
know,
a
formal,
I
guess
review
of
the
1997
injunction.
You
know
what
does
what
are
we
allowed
to
do
under
that?
AG
It
doesn't
seem
like
I
guess
as
I
look
at
it.
We
could
potentially
go
to
a
centralized
model
based
on
that,
but
you
know
I
think
those
conversations
are
continuing.
So
we
have
been
moving
down
the
path
but
we're
just
not
at
that
point.
Yet.
I'm.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
This
may
be
a
question
for
our
attorney,
but
one
of
the
provisions
in
the
1997
injunction
was
that
it
was
a
test
program
with
kind
of
a
start
and
end
date,
that
you
know
February
1st
to
September
30th
1997.
It's
on
page
three
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
as
to
what
the
kind
of.
C
Of
the
settlement
agreement
was
if
it
did
have
kind
of
a
expiration
date,
if
you,
if
you
might
say,
and
I
only
have
the
one
document
to
refer
to
so
was
there
ever
a
like
establishment,
or
you
know,
solidification
of
what
was
proposed
in
this
injunction.
That
has
now,
because
you
already
mentioned
that
you
view
this
as
like,
currently
active.
AJ
Chair
Vita,
council,
member
Payne,
I
noticed
the
same
thing
and
we
we
have
looked
at
this.
It
was
26
years
old,
I,
don't
we?
We
don't
think
that
there
was
ever
any
permanent
settlement
agreement
or
more
current
court
order
put
into
place.
AJ
We
we've
always
read
the
provisions
of
this
to
say
that
if
the
parties
don't
do
the
triggers
in
the
settlement
agreement,
then
the
settlement
agreement,
as
is
continues
on
I,
believe
there's
a
reference
in
a
paragraph
of
this
settlement
agreement
that
if
you
know
a
more
current
settlement,
agreement
or
court
order
isn't
initiated,
then
the
terms
of
the
quote-unquote
experimental
program
or,
however,
it's
termed
will
continue
and
I
all
I
can
say
is
historically
I.
Think
many
administrations
in
the
police
department
have
viewed
this
as
being
in
full
force,
in
effect,.
C
I
think
we
should
challenge
that
at
some
point
frankly,
but
follow-up
conver,
a
question.
C
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
the
presentation,
because
it's
a
little
bit
more
concise
MPD
cannot
restrict
the
right
to
directly
contract
unless
the
Restriction
is
narrowly
tailored
to
serve
legitimate
business
needs
of
MPD.
Would
we
be
able
to
say
it
serves
a
legitimate
business
need
for
all
officers
who
want
to
participate
in
off-duty
shifts
to
have
to
meet
a
higher
level
of
training
and
have
some
specific
training
catered
towards.
C
AG
Vita
customer
Payne
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
we
could
do,
which
is
mentioned,
is
one
requiring
officers
to
enter
their
time,
worked
into
the
time
keeping
system
so
that
we
have
better
accountability
and
give
us
a
better
opportunity
to
audit
their
work
so
that,
just
in
terms
of
improving
the
accountability,
I
think
that
we
could
take
that
step
forward
without
violating
the
injunction
in
terms
of
training
them
more
I'm,
not
really
sure
what
more
training
we
would
offer
most
of
what
they
do
at
after
these
sites
is
really
just
serve
as
a
visible,
deterrent
or
potentially
engage
in,
say
someone
causing
a
disturbance
at
a
business
and
escort
them
out,
or
you
know,
but
it's
that
visible
deterrent.
C
I've
had
it
proposed
to
me
that
you
know
some
of
these
off-duty
shifts
are
either
more
lucrative
or
more
desirable.
It
could
be
a
you
know,
professional
sporting
event
as
an
example,
and
there
may
be
some
whether
it's
anti-racist
training
or
you
know
implicit
bias,
training
or
some
higher
level
of
training
around
de-escalation
that
maybe
isn't
a
part
of
our
standard,
that's
defined
by
the
post
board,
but
maybe
is
something
that
we'd
want
to
add
additional.
AG
Council,
member
Payne
I
don't
know
that
that
specifically
would
violate
the
injunction
so
I
think
if
we
thought
that
that
were
of
value,
we
could
certainly
do
that
good
news.
It
looks
like
the
back
half
of
this
year
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
ton
of
the
type
of
training
you
described
so
everyone's
going
to
get
that
I'm,
not
sure
that
there's
more,
that
water
could
or
should
be
required
for
officers
working
off
duty.
But
it's
certainly
something
we
can
look
at.
Y
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
for
this
fresh
look
at
the
off-duty
stuff.
I've
been
pretty
involved
on
it
for
a
few
years
now.
I
also
wanted
to
just
openly
share
that
speculation
tends
to
be
just
anecdotally
that
younger
officers
don't
want
to
and
are
less
interested
in,
off-duty
work.
Y
This
a
younger
generation
of
people
coming
in
are
are
Maybe,
valuing
work-life
balance,
a
little
differently
or
or
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
cause
is,
but
I
think
that
also
speaks
to
our
our
desire
and
our
need
to
evolve
this
model
a
bit
when
we
started
looking
at
this.
There
was
a
lot
more
in
your
graphs
that
show
back
in
2018
and
2019.
Y
There
were
so
many
more
different
contracts
and
so
much
more
to
go
through
to
try
to
see
what
we
could
potentially
sort
out
or
triage
in
some
way
and
and
now
there's
a
lot
less.
That
seems
like
it's
a
little
bit
more
manageable.
It
almost
seems
like.
Maybe
there
is
no
time
like
the
present
to
to
make
a
shift
and
to
evolve,
and
so
my
energy
on
this
is,
it
is
certainly
renewed.
Y
I
think
something
still
sort
of
smells
here,
just
the
whole
idea
of
it.
Frankly,
one
of
the
things
that
that
audit
said
back
in
2019
was
that
we
are
stuck
between
centralized
and
decentralized
system,
and
we
should
pick
one
right
and
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you
wanted
to
pontificate
on
that,
but
but
to
council
member
wansley's
point,
we
don't
need
to
pick
one
of
those
to
necessarily
charge
administrative
fees
for
squad
cars
or
gas,
or
something
like
that.
I
mean
I
think
she
has
a
really
good
point
about
that.
Y
I
think
it
would
be
an
expensive
ask
for
the
city
and
the
whole
city,
this
wouldn't
be
a
community
multiplier
or
a
safety
multiplier
in
the
kinds
of
ways
that
it
used
to
be,
which
is
other
private
entities
were
paying
for
it
and
we,
the
public
or
the
police
department,
got
the
advantage
of
having
these
other
officers
that
could
shift
into
on
duty
in
a
heartbeat
if,
if
the
need
came
so
the
contract
piece
of
this
is
really
critical,
but
it
will
be
very
costly
to
move
it
in-house,
but
I
do
wonder
if
it
would
be
worth
it.
Y
Do
you
I
do
think
it
would
be
worth
it
the
could
you
do.
You
want
to
share
with
us
a
little
bit
about
where
how
you
feel
a
centralized
or
decentralized
model
should
be
what
we
might
want
to
shift
to
or
if
you're,
not.
If
you
don't
want
to
that's.
AG
Sure
Vita
consumer
parmesano,
yes,
I
I,
would
like
to
see
it
shift
to
a
centralized
model,
mainly
for
accountability.
The
ability
to
to
know
who's
working
when
and
to
be
able
to
control
that
and
manage
that
I
think
is
important
being
able
to
recoup
some
of
those
costs.
AG
I
think
is
also
important
and
maybe
a
better
ability
to
to
ensure
fair
and
Equitable
work
assignments
and
to
be
able
to
move
it
around
and
ensure
that
you
know
the
people
that
really
need
it
can
get
it
or
the
businesses
that
can
but
I
think.
AG
For
me,
the
accountability
piece
is
what's
most
important
and
so
just
having
better
control
of
knowing
what
our
officers
are
working,
but
I
do
know
that
when
it
came
up-
and
this
has
come
up
over
the
years-
obviously
in
1997
several
times
since
then,
the
pension
costs
were
a
big
factor,
and
for
me
you
know
it
would
be
more
beneficial
to
work
it
if
the
city
did
run
it
because
it
would
pay
into
my
pension
off
duty.
AG
Don't
now
so
you
know
it,
it
actually
be
better
off
for
the
officers
really,
although
you
know
I'm,
not
sure
that
everybody
agrees
with
that,
so
accountability
is
the
most
compelling
reason.
So
I'm
not
sure.
If
you'd
like
me
to
expand.
Y
A
A
You
know
in
the
next
couple
of
years
and
also
to
just
take
a
look
at
how
he
wants
to
use
off-duty
in
his
department
and
so
I
think
it's
important
for
council
members
to
talk
to
the
chief,
especially
if
they
have
ideas
on
how
off-duty
should
move
forward
and
maybe
coordinate
how
we
move
forward
with
him
and
his
leadership
team.
So
thank
you
DC
for
the
presentation
and
thank
you
also,
director
McPherson,
oh
council,
member
wansley,.
X
Thank
you,
chair
viton.
Absolutely
the
name.
Inspiration
for
this
director
came
through
conversations
with
Chief
O'hara
directly,
as
they
do
have
a
pretty
robust
program
in
Newark,
New
Jersey,
and
they
were
interested
in
seeing
him
carry
over
some
of
the
things
he
were
able
to
implement
with
off-duty
here
in
Minneapolis.
So
thank
you
for
naming
that
we
have
been
in
conversations
with
him.
X
As
you
know,
chair
of
the
tall
name
that
this
Council
can
take
into
consideration.
Is
this
something
that
we
can
do
on
our
end
or
also
specifically
for
the
mayor
since
MPD
falls
directly
under
his
will
house
on
the
executive
side?
So
is
there
a
way
to
get
a
actual
fiscal
analysis,
which
was
someone
asked
in
this
legislative
directive
on
those
proposed
of
what
it
looks
like
to
transition
into
a
centralized
model?.
AG
Chair
of
Utah
councilmember,
wansley
they're
nodding
towards
Robin,
but
what
we
know
is
that
and
I
don't
want
to
give
you
the
dollar
amount,
but
but
Saint
Paul
charges,
or
maybe
it's
okay-
to
share
it,
but
Saint
Paul
charges
in
a
month
that
they've
determined
that's
about
five
dollars
an
hour
less
than
what
we
anecdotally
believe
is
the
going
rate
right
now
for
Minneapolis,
so
it
would
be
and
and
to
recoup
those
administrative
costs
and
Squad
costs.
AG
The
officers
are
getting
paid
less
than
they
are
now,
so
they
wouldn't
like
that
part
of
it.
But
the
city
would
recoup
some
of
that
money.
But
again
it's
some!
It's
not
that
far
off
in
terms
of
the
I
guess
the
market
cost
so
I,
don't
know
if
you
wanna.
AB
Council
members,
there
has
been
some
analysis
done,
the
by
Lori
Johnson,
actually
at
the
city
level.
The
concern
I
think
is
that
we
actually
may
see
rates
go
up
for
the
community
based
on
the
costs.
So
what
we
decided
probably
about
a
year
ago,
is
that
we
would
our
first
step
was
really
to
get
a
system
in
place
that
would
track
hours,
because
until
we
can
track
hours,
we
really
are
kind
of
just
guesting
or
guesstimating.
AA
AB
So
that
was
that
is
part
of
the
process
that
we're
doing
right
now,
with
the
transition
from
Workforce
director
to
a
new
system
for
scheduling
that
this
would
be
part
of
it.
So
that
was
step
one
step.
Two
then,
would
be
looking
at
okay.
Now
we
have
numbers
and
we
can
really
understand
what
our
costs
would
be
and
what
the
community
cost
would
be
as
well,
and
then
you
know
what
do
we
do
from
there,
but
we
feel
like
we
need
better
Data
before
we
get
to
that
point
of
making
those
decisions.
X
X
So
it's
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
this
is
an
intentional
Next
Step
that
you
that
staff
is
moving
forward
with,
so
that
we
could
move
in
the
direction
of
centralization
or
as
Council
vice
president
raised,
be
able
to
have
a
system
where
we
can
recuperate
the
cost
that
we're
already
providing
up
front
again.
Officers
are
using
city
property
to
provide
this
service.
We
should
be
at
least
extracting
some
level
of
Revenue
through
that.
So
just
wanted
to
name
that.