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A
Item
14
is
approving
some
money
from
Hennepin
County
for
affordable
housing
projects
in
Minneapolis
item
15
is
a
right
of
entry
for
access
at
3744
Chicago
item
16
is
passing
a
resolution
supporting
an
application
from
for
a
financial
incentive
from
Deed
from
their
job
creation
fund
item
17
is
the
advisory
committee
on
housing.
Appointments
item
18?
Is
the
mpha
Board
of
Commissioners
appointments
item.
A
19
is
comp
plan
amendments
built
form,
guidance
on
Van,
Buren
and
Summer
Avenue
Street
Northeast
item
20
is
a
comp
plan,
amount
meant
for
built
form
guidance
on
the
20
2700
block
of
Elliott
10th,
Avenue,
28th,
Street
and
also
27th
in
Chicago
item
21
is
rezoning
for
Sociable
Cider
Works
item
22
is
acquisition
of
an
XL
Energy
easement
for
the
Border
Avenue
Extension
item
23
is
a
street
vacation
and
item
24
is
setting
a
public
hearing
for
the
license
fee
schedule.
I
have
been
notified
of
two
things.
A
I
just
want
to
note
now
on
item
number
11
application
number
51
is
not
going
to
be
moved
forward
today.
That
is
the
application
for
merwin's
liquor
that
is
being
referred
back
to
staff,
but
all
of
the
other
liquor
license
renewals
will
stand
and
then
I've
had
a
request
for
item
number
18
to
have
a
staff
presentation
and
move
to
the
end
of
the
agenda.
So
I
will
not
move
that
item
with
that.
A
Is
everyone
clear
on
the
motion
I'm
going
to
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
roll,
so
individual
votes
can
be
tallied
rather
than
a
Voice
vote.
A
B
A
Okay,
I
just
want
to
clarify
their
eyes
on
all
of
the
items
except
for
item
19.
There
is
two:
there
are
two
Nays
and
item
number
20.
There
is
one
nay
item.
18
has
been
moved
to
the
end
of
the
agenda
and
the
merwin's
liquor
item
has
been
pulled
and
referred
back
to
staff.
Is
that
correct?
That
is
correct?.
A
On
the
council
sees
it
number
20,
.,
okay,
council
member
Chavez
would
like
to
be
recorded
as
ion
number
20..
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,
with
that,
we
will
then
go
ahead
and
start
with
the
public
hearings.
We
have
two
kinds
of
public
hearings
today:
the
public
hearings
on
liquor
licenses.
We
also
have
the
quasi-judicial
public
hearings,
we'll
start
with
the
easier
of
the
agenda,
which
is
the
public
hearings
on
licenses
first
and
we'll
begin
with
item
number
one
Ms
harvet
is
here
to
speak
to
the
Hotel
Indigo
liquor
license.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
council
members.
I'm
lead
license
inspector
Michelle,
Harvard
of
licenses
and
consumer
services
I'm
presenting
an
application
from
pardon
me,
Hotel
Indigo,
Minneapolis,
downtown
owned
by
Great
Lakes
Management
Group
LLC
they're,
located
at
618,
2nd
Avenue
South
in
Ward
7..
They
currently
hold
a
licenses
for
hotel
and
confectionary
food
license.
E
The
applicant
is
requesting
an
on
sale
liquor
with
Sunday
sales,
limited
entertainment
license.
Hotel
Indigo
has
performed
Renovations
at
the
former
Crown
Plaza
north
star
hotel.
The
entertainment
level
is
going
down
from
General
entertainment
to
limited
entertainment.
The
applicant
intends
to
provide
occasional,
live,
music
and
other
entertainment
that
is
allowed
on
the
inside.
E
They
have
indoor
seating
for
200
patrons
and
outdoor
seating
for
16
on
a
private
patio
along.
Second,
they
have
indoor
pardon
me
on
December
14th
31
notices
were
sent
to
Property
Owners
within
450
feet
of
the
premises.
Notices
were
also
emailed
to
the
downtown
Minneapolis
neighborhood
association.
The
warehouse
District
Business,
Association
and
council
member
Goodman
a
notice,
was
posted
at
the
hotel.
We
have
received
one
comment
from
the
community
and
it
is
in
support
of
this
application.
E
Hotel
Indigo
is
located
within
the
North
Star
Center
and
has
218
guest
rooms.
The
license
premises
will
consist
of
the
same
physical
space
as
the
previous
licensed
establishment,
except
for
the
removal
of
the
eighth
floor,
outdoor
patio
area
and
the
addition
of
the
street
level
patio
seating
for
16
patrons.
This
is
why
we're
holding
the
public
hearing,
because
new
outdoor
area
is
being
added,
the
licenses
and
consumer
services
division
recommend
approval
of
an
on
sale
liquor
license
with
Sunday
sales,
limited
entertainment
license
for
Hotel
Indigo
Minneapolis
downtown.
A
F
A
I'm
just
here
for
any
questions
from
the
public,
so
okay,
great
well!
Thank
you!
So
much
is
there
anyone
else
here
to
speak
to
this
to
this
anyone
seeing
none,
we'll
close
the
public
hearing,
I'll
move
approval
of
the
application
very
happy
to
Welcome
Hotel
Indigo
to
downtown
Minneapolis,
further
comments
or
questions
council
member
rainville.
G
A
H
Thank
you,
chair
Goodman
and
committee
members.
I
am
inspector
Max,
Cervantes
licenses
and
consumer
services.
I'm
presenting
an
application
from
my
san
Margot
owned
by
good
food,
is
a
right
LLC.
The
address
is
224
First
Street
North
located
in
ward
3..
The
applicant
is
requesting
an
on
sale,
liquor,
no
entertainment,
Sunday
sales
license
and
Sidewalk
Cafe
license.
My
son
Margot
is
a
new
business.
Taking
over
the
space
where
ribnick
Furs
was
located,
the
proposed
hours
of
operation
are
Monday
through
Thursday
11,
A.M
to
10
p.m.
Friday
through
Sunday,
11
A.M
to
12
a.m.
H
Inside
and
outside
they
have
indoor
seating
for
273
and
outdoor
468
on
a
private
patio
and
sidewalk
cafe.
On
December
13th
public
hearing
notices
were
sent
to
Residents
and
Property
Owners
within
450
feet
of
the
premises.
Notices
were
also
sent
to
the
north
loop
neighborhood
association,
the
warehouse
District
Business
Association
and
councilmember
rainville.
We
have
received
two
comments
from
the
community
with
concerns
about
indoor
outdoor
noise.
H
My
son
Margot
is
focused
on
a
dining
clientele
and
they
will
have
only
ambient
French
cafe
music
play
it
through
speakers
that
are
programmed
to
not
exceed
a
certain
noise.
Decibel
as
well,
the
outside
speakers
are
pointed
down
and
not
out
into
the
neighborhood.
The
restaurant
intends
to
be
great
neighbors
to
the
area
licenses
and
consumer
services.
Division
recommends
approval
of
an
on
sale,
liquor,
no
entertainment,
Sunday
sales
license
and
Sidewalk
Cafe
license
for
my
San
Marco.
This
concludes
my
presentation
at
this
time.
I'll
stand
for
any
questions.
Thank.
A
I
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
me
it's
a
excited
to
be
in
the
north
loop
excited
to
take
over
this
amazing
historical
building
and
the
big
thing
about
it
is
that
we're
keeping
its
historical
elements
I
mean
it's
really
taking
us
going
over
budget
by
a
hundred
percent
and
the
timeline
by
another
100
to
try
and
get
there.
But
it's
a
stunning
stunning
building
and
our
focus
is
being
first
and
foremost
a
neighborhood,
a
restaurant
and
and
with
a
local
and
National
and
hopefully
International
reputation
when
it
comes
to
food
and
service.
I
So
that's
all
we're
doing
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
and
and
I
think
there
was
some
concern
about
noise
and
our
reputation
speaks
for
itself.
30
years
downtown,
we've
never
had
one
single
issue
in
terms
of
Licensing
and
I.
I
haven't
heard
a
lot
of
French
music
that
it's
very
noisy.
It's
usually
it's
pretty
romantic
and
quiet.
I
G
Just
want
to
welcome
you
Mr
FEMA,
to
the
neighborhood.
Thank
you
for
investing
in
the
community
and
I.
Just
wish
you
the
best.
Do
you
have
any
idea
when
you'll
be
open.
A
H
Thank
you,
chair
Goodman
and
committee
members.
I
am
inspector
Max
Cervantes
licenses
and
consumer
services
I'm
presenting
an
application
from
Millie's,
Wine,
Bar
and
Bistro
owned
by
Millie's
LLC.
The
business
address
is
1129
Washington
Avenue
South,
located
in
Ward
3..
The
applicant
is
requesting
an
on
sale.
Wine,
no
entertainment
with
strong
beer
license.
Millie's
Wine,
Bar
and
Bistro
is
a
new
business
in
an
existing
building.
The
proposed
hours
of
operation
are
11
A.M
to
11
p.m.
Daily
inside
only
the
proposed
I'm,
sorry,
the
they
have
indoor
seating
for
65.
H
on
December
13th
public
hearing
notices
were
sent
to
Residents
and
Property
Owners
within
450
feet
of
the
premises.
Notices
were
also
sent
to
the
downtown
Minneapolis
neighborhood
association
and
the
East
Town
Business,
Partnership
and
council
member
rainfell.
We
have
received
two
comments
from
the
community,
both
in
support
of
the
business,
the
licenses
and
consumer
services.
Division
division
recommends
approval
of
an
on-sale
wine,
no
entertainment
with
strong
beer,
license
families,
Wine,
Bar
and
Bistro.
This
concludes
my
presentation.
I'll
stand
for
any
questions
are.
A
J
Hi
I'm
Brandon
witzel.
We
are
looking
to
open
a
small
Wine,
Bar
and
Bistro
just
to
bring
something
new
to
the
neighborhood,
that's
approachable
for
everybody
to
come
to
within
walking
distance,
fantastic.
It's
here
for
questions,
nope.
A
A
A
But
if
not
that's
okay,
she's
like
about
to
have
a
baby,
so
we're
not
gonna
put
her
on
the
spot.
Okay,
so
the
Planning
Commission
has
a
public
hearing
for
two
appointments
because
of
the
length
the
agenda
today,
we
did
advise
both
of
the
appointees
that
they
did
not
need
to
come
if
it
was
inconvenient.
A
It
turns
out
that
one
of
the
appointees
works
at
the
state
legislature
and
today
is
the
opening
of
the
session
and
the
other
is
a
reappointment
which
is
a
mayoral
appointment
and
he
was
also
advised
he
did
not
need
to
be
here.
So
I
am
going
to
note
that
the
mayoral
appointment
of
Chris
Meyer
is
number
one
and
the
reappointment
of
Bill
Baxley
is
seat.
A
Number
five
we'll
see
if
there's
I'll
then
go
ahead
and
see
if
there
are
any
questions
from
members
of
the
council,
if
not
I'm,
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
on
item
number
four,
which
is
confirming
the
mayoral
appointments
of
Chris
Meyer
and
Bill
Baxley.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
to
this
issue?
A
Number
four
has
been
moved
for
approval,
further
comments
or
questions
sing,
not
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
those
items
are
approved.
I
want
to
thank
Mr,
Baxley
and
Mr
Meyer
for
agreeing
to
serve
and
for
giving
up
their
time
today
due
to
the
lengthy
agenda
as
well
as
all
the
other
things
going
on
and
we'll
move
into
our
quasi-judicial
public
hearing
process.
Now
there
are
six
appeals
of
the
decisions
of
staff
and
the
Planning
Commission
we've
determined
that
we
will
move
the
ones
on
various
items
together.
A
So
we'll
start
with
item
number
five,
which
is
variance
and
site
plan
review
by
the
north
side,
residence
Redevelopment
Council
for
a
project
located
at
1254
Russell
Avenue
I
will
note
that
there
is
both
a
variance
and
site
plan
Appeal
on
the
Russell
property,
as
well
as
2309
Plymouth.
We're
going
to
put
those
appeals
together,
we're
going
to
ask
the
staff
to
speak
to
both
of
those
issues
followed
by
the
appellant,
then
the
applicant
and
then
the
general
public.
A
So
let
me
note
that
the
staff
can
have
as
much
time
as
you
need
the
appellant
and
the
applicant.
Will
each
get
10
minutes
and
anyone
from
the
general
public
will
get
two
after
two
minutes
each
after
those
have
all
been
heard,
and
there
is
a
clock
and
it
will
be-
and
we
will
turn
this
over
to
miss
sether.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
L
Good
afternoon,
chair,
Goodman
council
members
items
number
four
excuse
me.
Five
and
six
on
today's
agenda
are
appeals
of
the
decision
of
the
City
Planning
Commission.
There
are
two
separate
projects,
that's
two
separate
properties
and
they
have
different
land
use
applications,
but
they're
often
referenced
together
and
so
we're
going
to
discuss
them
together
in
the
Appeals.
L
The
first
property
is
known
as
the
East
Building
and
that
property
is
2309,
Plymouth
Avenue
North,
it's
currently
the
Plymouth
Congregational
Church.
That
property
has
been
deemed
eligible
for
demolition.
It
was
before
this
Committee
in
the
city
council
previously
for
the
review
of
its
historic
status,
which
it
does
not
have.
L
So
if
the
project
is
approved,
that
building
will
be
demolished.
The
property
on
the
west
side
of
the
alley
is
1254
Russell,
Avenue
North,
that's
known
as
the
west
building,
as
proposed
the
East
Building
at
2309,
Plymouth
Avenue
North
would
have
38
dwelling
units
and
would
be
five
stories
in
height
the
west.
Building
at
1254
Russell
Avenue
North
would
be
a
four-story
multiple
family,
residential
building
with
25
dwelling
units.
L
Similarly,
across
the
alley,
the
property
at
1254,
Russell
Avenue
North,
is
Seeking
a
variance
to
reduce
the
front
yard
setback
for
this
portion
of
the
building,
where
it's
closest
to
the
corner
and
also
located
in
the
required
front
yard.
In
both
situations,
the
setbacks
are
increased
because
of
the
residential
structures
to
the
South
that
are
set
back
greater
than
what's
typically
required.
So
this
building
here
is
35
feet.
This
building
here
is
28.1
feet,
so
it
has
a
reflective
setback.
L
You'll
also
note
that
the
building
the
East
Building
would
have
five
off-street
parking
spaces
located
within
the
structure
and
there
are
no
Austria
parking
spaces
requested
or
proposed
in
the
west
building
at
1254
Russell.
Just
as
a
reminder,
there
is
no
minimum
off
street
parking
requirement
for
any
land
use
in
the
city,
including
multiple
family.
Residential
staff
made
consistent
findings
for
the
variances
to
reduce
the
front
yard,
setbacks
and
Corner
side
yard
setbacks
for
both
projects.
Those
findings
were
adopted
by
the
City
Planning
Commission.
L
Generally
speaking,
staff
found
that
practical
difficulties
exist
that
are
unique
to
the
part,
both
Parcels,
given
the
existing
context
along
Plymouth
Avenue.
That
shows
both
non-residential
and
residential
setbacks
being
closer
or
fronting
along
Plymouth
Avenue,
where
the
side
streets
were
treated
more
similar.
In
the
case
as
shown
here
today,
the
applicant
has
also
staggered
the
front
yard
setbacks
to
provide
additional
relief
in
that
front
yard.
To
provide
greater
separation
to
the
low
density
residential
structures
to
the
south,
in
both
cases.
L
Staff
finds
that
these
are
unique
circumstances
to
the
property
and
were
not
created
by
the
applicant
for
the
second
finding,
for
both
the
front
yards
and
Corner
side
yard
setback
for
both
projects,
staff
identifies
the
future
land
use
designation
as
Corridor
mixed
use
in
the
Minneapolis
2040
plan.
The
city's
comprehensive
plan
that
designation
would
assume
commercial
zoning
is
appropriate
and
the
city
is
currently
conducting
the
land
use
rezoning
study.
L
Therefore,
staff
found
that
the
proposed
setbacks
were
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
for
the
third
finding
staff
found
that
the
proposed
setbacks
along
Russell,
Queen
and
Plymouth
Avenue
will
not
alter
the
essential
character
of
the
locality
or
be
injuries
to
the
use
of
the
property
in
the
vicinity.
As
previously
stated,
the
design
is
consistent
with
other
properties
along
Plymouth
Avenue,
both
residential
and
non-residential,
with
reduced
setbacks
to
match,
and
it's
consistent
with
commercial
districts
that
are
nearby
the
East
Building
at
2309.
L
They
were
authorized
to
do
that
with
a
combination
of
a
premium,
so
in
this
case
they
sought
premiums
through
the
providing
on-site,
affordable
units
and
then
also
meeting
of
the
the
four
required
findings
which
are
listed
in
pages
eight
through
nine
in
the
report
for
2309
Plymouth
for
the
2309
Plymouth
Avenue
North
project,
no
alternative
compliance
with
sought
and
then
for
1254
Russell
Avenue
North,
the
temporary
drop-off
space
alternative
compliance
was
granted
so
on
December
5th
2022,
the
City
Planning
Commission
adopted
staff
findings
and
approved
both
projects
with
the
staff
findings
in
the
report
and
the
conditions
of
approval
included.
L
At
the
end
of
the
staff
report
on
December
15
2022,
the
north
side,
residence
Redevelopment
Council
submitted
an
appeal
at
the
decision
of
the
Planning
Commission
asking
the
committee
to
overturn
the
approvals
of
the
variances
and
site
plan
review.
Applications
staff
has
received
a
couple
emails
since
the
public
hearing
at
the
Planning
Commission
those
reported
on
to
the
city
clerk
for
inclusion
of
the
public
record.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
I'd
be
happy
to
answer.
Any
questions
are.
A
There
any
questions
for
Miss
suffer
on
her
staff
report.
Everyone
kind
of
understand,
what's
going
on,
okay,
sounds
good.
Thank
you.
So
much
I
will
now
hear
from
the
appellant,
which
is
the
Northside
residence
Redevelopment.
Council
you'll
have
10
minutes
to
present
your
appeal.
I
would
kindly
ask
you
to
speak
only
to
the
issues
involving
the
variants
and
the
site
plan
review.
A
Alternative
uses
for
the
lot
are
not
really
at
play
here,
we're
just
talking
about
whether
or
not
they're
entitled
to
the
variances
under
the
code
and
issues
specific
with
the
site
plan
review,
and
if
you
could
introduce
yourself
for
the
record
when
you're
ready.
That
would
be
great.
We
won't
start
the
clock
till
you're
settled
all
right.
We
won't
start
the
clock
until
you're
settled.
It's
all
good
I'm
ready.
Please.
N
N
We
have
so
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
when
this
the
first
time
this
was
proposed
at
a
residential
commercial
task
force
meeting
in
March
of
2020.
The
response,
then
was:
this
is
not
a
good
fit
for
our
community.
The
density
of
this
apartment
building
won't
work.
If
you're
familiar
with
that
area,
it's
on
Plymouth
Avenue
there.
N
It's
all
single
family
residential,
except
for
two
other
apartment
buildings
that
have
been
there,
since
maybe
the
80s
or
so
those
lots
were,
are
the
size
for
a
residential
space
and
reducing
the
setbacks
will
allow
the
building
to
be
so
big
that
it
dwarfs
the
surrounding
area
and
it's
not
necessary
in
order
to
create
a
an
apartment,
a
residential,
complex
there.
It's
not
necessary
to
have
these
setbacks.
N
I.
Also
want
to
say
that
this
whole
process
is
a
new
process
for
us.
I've
never
appealed
a
decision
at
the
Planning
Commission
or
anything
like
this,
so
I
would
I
prepared
what
I
submitted.
What
we
submitted
was
the
legal
reason,
but
I
didn't
bring
that
with
me.
I
thought
you
guys
would
already
have
that
and
that
you're
just
looking
okay,
that
you're
just
looking
for
support
or
not
of
that.
N
N
The
residents
that
you're
trying
to
recruit
would
probably
have
be
as
limited
incomes.
I
mean
that's
the
whole
point
of
it.
We
are
in
a
food
desert
over
there.
You'll
have
to
take
two
buses
to
get
to
any
grocery
store
in
that
area,
and
we
also
have
worked
really
hard
with
our
community
safety
specialists
in
that
area
to
maintain
the
safety
and
so
we're
concerned
that,
with
so
many
with
such
an
influx
that
it's
going
to
adversely
affect
the
neighborhood.
A
N
Well,
we
submitted
that
already
to
you
also.
Has
everyone
had
a
chance
to
review
that
and
I
guess
I'll
also
point
out
the
reason
why
we
that
it
will
change
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
and
my
understanding
is
that
there
are
three
findings
that
need
to
be
in
place
in
order
for
a
variance
to
be
approved
and-
and
if
one
of
those
three
is
not
in
place,
then
the
variance
cannot
be
approved
well.
N
We've
got
around
the
safety
around
pulling
up
to
the
intersection
and
also
around
just
the
the
neighbor.
It
will
overwhelm
the
neighborhood
and
there's
no
place
for
the
new
residents
to
access
anything.
Was
that
time
or
no?
Okay?
N
Let's
see
it
also
will
affect
the
residents
on
the
other
side
of
the
building,
their
sight
lines
and
the
the
residents
who
will
be
the
they're
trying
to
attract
we'll
be
able
to
see
into
the
the
residents
who
already
lived
there.
It
will
affect
their
privacy
in
their
yards,
and
things
like
that,
and
the
most
important
thing
is
that
what
we
see
is.
N
The
size
of
the
we
want
we're
excited
to
see
this
area
developed,
we're
excited
to
to
grow
our
neighborhood,
but
we
want
it
done
in
a
responsible
manner.
We
don't
want
to
see
the
the
zoning
cone
thrown
out
to
create
a
building
that
allows
the
developer
to
access
more
funds
that
will
then
overwhelm
access
more
funds
to
create
this.
This
complex
that
will
then
overwhelm
our
neighborhood
there's.
No
reason
we
want
to
do
this
in
a
responsible
manner.
Nerc
has
heard
from
several
residents
that
they
are
interested
in
helping
with
this
project.
N
N
N
N
We're
wondering
why
doesn't
the
city
require
developers
to
demonstrate
that
residents
who
live
around
a
property
are
involved
in
the
creation
of
a
proposal
and
supportive
of
the
development?
This
is
a
logical
requirement,
as
it
is
common
knowledge
that
residents
of
a
given
Community
know
best,
but
will
work
in
their
Community.
We
urge
city
and
county
leaders
to
revise
this
development
process
to
include
Community
input
at
the
beginning
of
the
process,
so
that
the
community
is
not
continually
reacting
to
problematic
proposals.
N
We've
been
here
not
in
this
forum,
but
we've
been
in
this
position
in
2020,
and
it's
a
lot
of
time
and
energy
for
us
to
respond
to,
and
we
don't
have
the
same
capacity
as
say
a
developer
who's
looking
at
to
make
something
build
something
Heather
I,
don't
have
any
more
to
say
right
now,
pardon
me
go
ahead!
Okay,
so,
basically,
if
you
guys
have
all
reviewed
the
the
legal
findings
that
we
submitted,
I
can't
say
them
better
than
the
then
they
were
submitted.
I
would
only
have
reread
that
to
you.
Okay,.
A
No
problem,
you
don't
have
to
take
the
10
minutes.
Okay,
I'm
gonna
make
sure
you
had
enough
time.
Okay,
thank
you
for
your
testimony.
We
will
mirror
from
the
applicant
I
believe
Mr
Archer.
You
also
will
have
10
minutes,
sir
okay.
O
Yeah
James
Archer
I'm,
the
developer
and
owner
of
the
site,
I'm
super
thankful
for
staff
at
City
of
Minneapolis
and
County
over
this
three-year
process.
It's
been
a
very
long,
arduous
process,
it's
extremely
difficult
to
develop
this
much
needed
housing
and
it's
I'm
super
thankful
for
the
commitments
from
the
City
of
Minneapolis,
financially
and
Hennepin
County
throughout
this
process
and
the
Met
Council,
that's
that's.
All
I
have
I'd
be
open
to
answering
any
questions
that
are
out
there.
Okay,.
A
This
isn't
to
back
and
forth.
So
there
won't
be
any
question
and
answer,
but
thank
you
for
your
testimony.
We'll
now
open
the
testimony
to
General
Public
comment.
I
have
three
people
signed
up
to
speak
to
this
issue,
you'll
each
be
asked
to
speak
for
three
minutes:
I
have
Ms
Clark,
Mr,
Rick,
penstad
I'm,
so
sorry,
I
didn't
say
that
right
for
sure
and
Kristen
Nixon
does
not
need
to
be
in
that
order.
Anyone
who'd
like
to
step
up
first
is
welcome
to
speak
okay.
If
no
one
wants
go.
C
Name
is
Edward
Rick,
beshad
and
I
live
in
2512
Farrell
place
two
blocks
away
from
this
project:
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
the
height
and
all
of
that
stuff.
That
all
said
great
everything
that
this
lovely
lady
mentioned
I
live
behind,
Homewood
apartment
and
that's
the
two
buildings
that
we're
speaking
about
it.
C
We
did
not
take
care
of
one
problem.
We
have.
We
are
creating
more
problem
in
the
neighborhood.
It's
those
Homewood
apartment
is
drug
infested,
shots
are
fired
two
weeks
ago
there
was
a
shot
fire
in
front.
My
house,
every
time
I
see
mayor,
Jacob
Fry
at
the
event
asking
what
I,
what
I
said
to
him.
What
happened
to
my
neighborhood,
their
music
played
at
two
o'clock
in
the
morning.
My
mother
is
68
year
old
and
still
goes
to
work.
C
My
house
is
vibrating
with
that
as
happiness
committee.
We
don't
need
this
in.
In
that
Community.
There
is
more
to
that
neighborhood
than
a
hundred
unit
or
50
unit
or
how
much
unit
we
need
grocery
store.
We
need
access
to
different
things.
I
gotta
go
to
Gold
Valley
when
I
want
to
shop,
something
at
buy
release
right.
If
somebody
living
there,
where
are
they
going
to
go,
do
grocery
they
get
to
go
and
Broadway.
C
So
what
I'm
saying
here
my
whole
neighborhood
is
terrified
of
these
apartments.
These
people
that
live
there
I'm
all
about
affordable
housing,
but
right
now,
I
see
it
every
day.
It's
not
working
for
that
neighborhood,
maybe
somewhere
else.
It
will
work
I'm
in
the
construction
business
too,
but
this
year
cannot
work
for
our
neighborhood.
There
is
a
there's.
A
neighbor
is
I,
don't
know
she
lives
here
for
50
years.
C
A
Thank
you,
we'll
ask
Miss
Clark
or
Miss
Nixon
or
Miss
Jamison.
Q
Hi
I'm,
Anita,
Clark
and
I
also
live
in
the
neighborhood.
I
live
on
12th
and
Thomas,
which
is
right
across
the
park
from
Eduardo's
house
I'm
opposed
to
it
because
they're
too
big
for
the
neighborhood,
it's
just
it's
bringing
too
many
people
into
the
neighborhood
I'm
all
for
housing,
but
the
space
is
just
it's
not
a
great
fit.
Q
The
two
apartments
that
Eduardo
was
speaking
of
I
live
a
park
away
from
it
and
I
have
to
to
get
to
my
home.
I
can't
even
drive
down
Thomas,
because
these
apartments
they're
not
managed
correctly
I'm,
not
saying
if
these
will
be
I,
don't
know,
but
looking
at
the
other
apartment
complexes
in
the
neighborhood
they're,
not
none
of
them
are
I
can't
get
down
Thomas.
If
I
try
to
drive
to
my
house
down
Thomas,
they
look
at
me
like
they
parked
three
cars
across
you.
Q
Q
Q
You
know
it's
a
small
neighborhood,
you
know,
there's
a
small
little
neighborhood
park.
I
just
don't
think
that's
a
great
fit.
The
lots
are
small.
If
you
go
and
look
at
the
Lots
they're,
very
small
and
I.
Just
think
that
something
else
would
work
would
be
a
better
fit
there
like
a
nice
grocery
store
or
I'm
all
stem
I'm
about
education,
I
think
a
stem,
a
stem
school
or
some
not
a
school
but
like
a
little
Community
Center
that
kids
can
come
and
and
learn
something
computer
classes
or
something
like
that
across
the
street.
Q
A
You
for
your
testimony,
thank
you,
Ms
Nixon
or
Miss
Jameson.
R
Hello,
my
name
is
Denise
Jamison
I
am
also
a
Northside
resident
and
I
was
born
and
raised
North
Minneapolis,
so
I
have
seen
the
trajectory
that
North
Minneapolis
has
been
on
growing
up.
I
was
lucky
enough
to
have
a
lot
of
resources
to
support
me
as
a
young
person,
so
that
I
could
make
good
decisions
if
we
were
to
have
a
property
put
in
with
63
units
for
families
that
are
most
likely
going
to
be
Multicultural
and
not
to
have
the
resources
to
support
them
as
far
as
speaking
their
language.
R
It
is
a
food
desert.
We
only
have
two
grocery
two
grocery
stores
that
we
can
utilize
growing
up.
I
had
I
went
to
Phyllis
Wheatley
Nursery
School,
then
I
went
to
a
Mary
McLeod
Bethune
I
took
advantage
of
Phyllis
Wheatley
programming
and
there
was
the
way
there
was
a
Hospitality
house,
but
without
increasing
the
support
for
residents
that
are
going
to
be
in
poverty
would
be
unfair
to
not
only
the
community,
but
it
would
be
unfair
to
the
residents
or
the
people
who
would
move
into
those
properties.
R
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
are
supporting
the
people.
Nerk
was
still
is
excited
about
the
growth
of
North
Minneapolis
they're
excited
to
collaborate
with
someone
who
wants
to
be
responsible
in
making
sure
that
we
are
building
a
community
that
is
going
to
support
all
of
its
residents,
and
we
know
that
our
community
is
changing
in
a
good
way.
We
are
getting
more
and
more
people
from
different
countries.
R
We
need
to
be
able
to
support
them,
but
a
63-unit
apartment
building
that
is
going
to
be
full
of
people
that
are
going
to
be
poor.
There
are
median
income
in
many
Minneapolis,
North
Minneapolis
is
28
thousand
dollars.
So
if
that's
our
median
income
and
though
it's
going
to
be
the
residence
without
any
support,
I
think
would
be
unfair
to
them
and
it
would
be
unfair
to
the
residents.
A
I
understand
Denise
Jamison
has
signed
up
and
you're
welcome
to
come
up
and
speak
if
you're
here,
oh
Ms
Nixon,
then
Kristen
Nixon.
A
A
L
We
did
not
evaluate
what
we
would
rather
see
at
the
property.
The
zoning
today
is
art
for
which
is
a
multiple
family,
residential
district
in
Corridor.
Fourth,
that
allows
up
to
force
well
four
stories,
and
then
you
can
exceed
to
six
stories
through
applying
for
the
premiums
as
they
did
for
the
the
East
Building.
So
no,
the
Planning
Commission
did
not
go
on
record
to
say
that
they
would
prefer
to
see
a
different
type
of
development.
In
fact,
if
a
non-residential
use
were
proposed
here,
Avery
zoning
would
be
required
today.
So.
A
It's
consistent
with
what
the
underlying
zoning
is.
The
reason
we're
here
is
as
a
result
of
the
variances
to
allow
the
building
to
be
closer
to
the
street.
I
would
say,
that's
accurate
and
the
site
plan
review
is
something
that
generally
is
brought
up
in
each
project,
but
that
was
also
appealed.
That
is
correct,
but
there
weren't
any
wasn't
any
testimony
about
what
about
the
site
plan
review
was.
A
L
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
understood
that
yeah
okay
is:
are
there
any
comments,
motions
or
questions
from
members
of
the
committee?
A
None
anyone,
okay,
I'm
gonna,
move.
Unfortunately,
to
deny
the
appeal
I.
Think
the
findings
of
fact
are
pretty
clear
here.
Wanting
something
different
or
having
concerns
about
what's
happening
in
the
neighborhood
are
not
a
legal
reason
for
us
to
deny
a
variance
under
the
very
strict
quasi-judicial
hearing
process
that
we're
in
and
you're,
probably
going
to
hear
everyone
in
the
audience.
This
a
lot
today
wanting
something
different
or
thinking
it
should
be.
Something
different
is
not
really
how
it
works.
A
A
Crime
is
an
issue
in
that
neighborhood
I'm,
very
empathetic
to
that
I
live
very
close
to
this
location
myself,
but
ultimately
other
bad
operators
or
increasing
crime
or
wanting
something
different
are
not
reasons
for
us
to
be
able
to
deny
the
variants.
We
would
have
to
have
a
legitimate
reason
based
on
the
findings
and
I
did
read
the
report
of
nerk,
and
essentially
it
says
we
would
rather
have
something
else.
A
A
Thank
you
and
unfortunately,
unless
I
hear
from
our
attorney
that
I
have
interpreted
this
otherwise,
and
perhaps
you
can
clarify
I
happen
to
be
one
of
the
people-
who's
more
empathetic
to
neighbors
most
of
the
time,
but
I
don't
see
a
path
forward
to
finding
a
findings
of
fact
that
would
be
upheld
under
the
law.
Mr
Nielsen.
Can
you
please
clarify.
S
Sure,
chair
Goodman
members
of
the
committee,
your
your
recitation
of
the
law
is
correct.
The
staff
report
by
our
community
planning
staff
is
is
never
binding
on
the
committee
or
the
council.
It's
a
proposed
set
of
findings,
but
as
explained
by
Ms
sether
and
has
elaborated
by
the
chair.
Those
findings
would
be
sufficient
here
to
in
order
to
approve
the
the
variances
one.
One
point
I
think
that's
worth
making.
S
Is
that
the
variance
findings,
one
of
the
prongs
of
the
variance
finding,
is
a
a
whether
the
applicants
would
like
to
use
their
property
in
a
reasonable
manner,
and
it
can
get
misinterpreted
by
some
as
requiring
the
proof
of
a
negative,
essentially
that
there's
no
reasonable
alternative.
So
they
should
be
in
total
variance.
That's
not
the
standard.
It
is
whether
their
specific
proposal
is
reasonable
and,
as
you
note,
a
wish
list
essentially
of
other
uses
that
would
be
more
desired,
is
not
a
legally
sufficient
reason
to
deny.
A
And
I'm
hoping
you
can
also
clarify.
So
we
only
have
to
say
this
once
today
that
the
staff
do
not
have
the
authority
to
issue
a
height
increase
as
a
variance
a
height
increase
under
the
2040
plan
like
it
or
not,
is
allowed
as
a
staff
prerogative,
but
it
is
not
a
variance.
It
is
an
administrative
action,
and
that
is
happening
here
correct.
S
Yes,
there
is
yeah,
okay,
the
the
you're
corrected
stat
in
terms
of
granting
a
height
increase
three.
What
is
it
really
a
bonus?
There
is
no
discretion
on
the
part
of
Staff.
The
bonuses
are
clearly
established.
The
applicant
has
to
meet
the
letter
of
the
law
when
it
comes
to
the
bonus
and
then
they
get
and
they
then
they
can
get
it.
It
isn't
a
a
question
of
offering
a
bonus
and
then
Staffing
having
some
sort
of
subjective
analysis.
B
A
N
A
No
I
guess
we'll
clarify
for
the
record.
Should
you
think
it
would
not
be
clear?
The
motion
was
to
deny
the
appeal
and
we'll
take
a:
why
don't
we
take
a
roll
call
vote
on
denying
the
appeal
on
item
number
five,
as
well
as
item
number
six.
S
A
B
Council
member
rainfield
council
member
Chavez
council
member
aye
Vice
chair
Osman
aye,
chair
Goodman
aye.
There
are
five
eyes.
A
Both
of
the
appeals
have
been
denied
we'll
then
move
on
to
item
number,
seven,
which
is
a
variance
appeal
by
Dan
Murphy
at
5009,
Beard,
Avenue
South,
as
well
as
oh,
that
one
only
has
one
appeal:
Mr
Crandall
welcome.
This
is
an
appeal
submitted
by
Dan
Murphy
regarding
the
decision
of
the
Planning
Commission
with
regard
to
variances
and
site
plan
review.
Mr
Crandall.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
A
If
anyone
is
here
to
testify
on
this
issue,
I'm
beard-
and
you
are
not
the
appellant
or
the
applicant,
you
would
kindly
sign
in
with
the
clerk
please
Mr
Crandall
welcome.
T
T
The
church
was
recently
evaluated
by
the
Minneapolis
Heritage
preservation
commission
for
its
potential
status
as
a
Historic
Landmark.
It
was
not
found
to
be
historic
and
is
therefore
eligible
for
demolition.
T
The
applicant
to
today
is
proposing
to
demolish
that
existing
structure
in
order
to
con
to
construct
a
new
mixed-use
structure
on
the
site.
The
site
is
guided
for
the
urban
Neighborhood
Land
Use
category
in
the
Minneapolis
2040
comprehensive
plan.
J
T
This
shows
the
site
in
relationship
to
the
two
existing
Transit
corridors
along
the
sites,
50th
Street,
West
and
France
Avenue
to
the
west
of
the
site
there.
You
can
also
see
the
context
of
that
50th
in
France
commercial
District
just
to
the
west
of
the
site,
and
then
the
proposal
before
you
today
is
for
a
new
five-story
mixed
use,
building
with
63
dwelling
units
and
approximately
1500
square
feet
of
commercial
space.
This
is
an
image
of
that
proposed
project.
T
These
are
some
elevations
of
the
proposed
structure
that
top
elevation,
showing
the
proposed
commercial
space
elevation
along
50th,
Street
West
and
then
the
Beard
Avenue
South
elevation,
showing
those
walk-up
residential
units
and
then
the
rear
and
South
Side
yard.
Elevations
proposed
exterior
materials,
brick
and
metal
panel,
primarily
and
then
some
additional
images
of
the
proposed
structure.
T
T
There
is
a
variance
to
reduce
the
minimum
rear
yard
from
nine
feet
to
five
feet
and
I'm
going
to
go
over
that
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
here
in
a
second
and
then
a
variance
to
reduce
a
minimum
reverse
corner
lot
or
reverse
Corner
yard
requirement
along
the
50th
Street
west
elevation,
a
site
plan
review
for
the
new
five-story
mixed-use
building
with
64
dwelling
units,
and
then
those
are
the
the
applications
that
are
that
were
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission.
T
At
its
meeting
on
December
5th,
there
is
additionally,
an
administrative
height
increase
to
increase
the
height
of
the
structure
from
four
stories:
56
feet
to
five
stories,
70
feet,
and
we
just
went
over
some
of
the
standards
therein
for
that
required
increase,
or
for
that
proposed
increase.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
incorporate
its
affordable
units
on
site
in
order
to
qualify
for
that.
T
T
So
I'm
going
to
go
over
the
two
variances
really
quick.
Here.
The
variance
request
along
the
50th
Street
elevation
is
for
a
reverse,
Corner
front
yard
requirement.
So
under
those
conditions,
normally
this
would
be
considered
a
corner
side
yard,
but
because
there's
a
property
immediately
to
the
east
of
the
site
that
has
a
front
yard
fronting
along
50th
Street
West.
It
triggers
an
automatic
front
yard
requirement
along
that
elevation
to
15
feet,
which
is
the
base
zoning
District
requirement.
T
The
second
variance
concerns
the
required
rear
yard
along
the
alley.
The
requirement
there
is
nine
feet
and
the
applicant
is
requesting
a
variance
to
reduce
that
to
five
feet,
just
for
the
first
floor
of
the
structure
to
incorporate
the
proposed
enclosed
parking
along
the
alley.
So
you
can
see
that
outlined
here
in
red
and
then
I
included
this
elevation
to
illustrate
that
that
setback
is
just
for
that
four
feet
of
the
first
story
of
the
proposed
structure.
T
So
the
upper
levels
of
the
proposed
structure
meet
the
required
setback
requirements
on
the
second
through
the
fifth
level,
and
you
can
see
that
also
here
in
the
plans
with
that
first
floor
kind
of
outline
there
to
the
right
and
then
the
upper
Stories
being
additionally
set
back
I
did
want
to
address
a
couple
of
things
that
were
brought
up
in
the
appeal
statement,
and
our
legal
team
can
reinforce
this
if
necessary.
But
one
thing
that
was
mentioned
is
that
the
applicant
did
not
obtain
consent
signatures
to
rezone
the
property
to
the
or2
cassette.
T
Signatures
are
not
required
to
rezone
to
the
office
residence
District,
because
it's
considered
a
residential
district
with
very
limited
retail
uses.
We
already
went
over
the
height
increase
and
how
that's
not
a
variance.
It's
an
administrative
increase,
that's
granted
by
the
zoning
administrator,
and
then
there
was
some
question
as
to
the
planning
commission's
authority
to
act
on
variances.
The
Planning
Commission
is
authorized
to
act
on
variances,
concurrently
with
other
applications
such
as
site
plan
review.
When
considering
a
mixed
use.
A
If
there
are
any
questions
from
anyone
else,
first
I
have
two:
is
there
any
have
a
question?
Okay,
Mr
Crandall
I'm
wondering
what
percentage
of
projects
that
you
have
seen
that
are
outside
of
downtown?
Does
the
developer
do
their
affordable
housing
requirement
on
site?
Isn't
that,
like
a
big
deal
for
us,
if
they
do
that
versus
kind
of
trying
to
put
it
somewhere
else
or
paying
into
a
fund,
so
someone
else
can
deal
with
it.
T
Chair
Goodman
I,
don't
have
numbers
in
terms
of
the
percentage
of
projects
that
do
that.
But
part
of
the
reason
for
incorporating
that
bonus
into
the
administrative
height
increase
is
to
incentivize
projects
to
incorporate
their
units
on
site,
because
that
I
think
is
the
preferred
outcome
from
the
first
cities
from
the
city's
perspective
and
particularly
in
high
demand.
High
amenity
areas
of
the
city
like
this.
A
T
It
would
potentially
complicate
the
implementation
of
underground
parking
on
the
site,
because
that's
the
reason
that
the
developers
cited
for
needing
that
additional
space
along
the
alley
and
again
the
setback
is
just
for
that
first
floor,
where
the
enclosed
parking
is
located
and
not
for
the
upper
stories.
So.
A
T
A
And
so
perhaps
the
applicant
can
speak
to
what
the
result
would
be
if
that
variance
was
not
approved.
Are
there
other
questions?
Anyone
else
says:
okay,
thank
you.
So
much
for
your
report.
As
with
the
last
matter,
we're
going
to
ask
the
appellant
to
speak
first
and
then
we
will
ask
the
applicant
to
speak
and
then
we'll
open
up
the
public
hearing
to
anyone
else
who
would
like
to
speak,
and
we've
asked
you
to
sign
up
on
one
of
these
pink
sheets
with
the
clerk.
A
If
you
would
be
willing
to
do
so
so
we'll
start
with
Mr
Murphy,
you
have
10
minutes,
sir.
U
My
name
is
Dan
Murphy.
Thank
you
for
taking
your
time
today
and
briefing
the
weather.
10
minutes
is
a
long
time,
so
I
doubt
I'll
be
able
to
cram
everything
in
you
know.
As
they
had
said
earlier,
the
you
know
we
had
submitted
all
of
the
legal
wording
that
we
could
to
State
our
case
as
far
as
whether
we
think
this
is
illegal
justification
for
variances
or
not,
and
as
you
stated,
commissioner
Goodwin
or
Goodman
excuse
me,
you
know
this
isn't
we'd
rather
see
something
else.
U
U
The
fact
that
it
doesn't
affect
the
upper
floors,
doesn't
matter
they're,
asking
a
variance
for
a
rear
yard
setback,
and
the
reason
which
was
clearly
stated
just
now
was
to
accommodate
more
parking.
Now
to
me.
That
is
not
a
practical
difficulty
that
is
a
self-created
practical
difficulty
because
they
want
to
have
parking
on
the
site,
which
then
creates
the
justification
for
the
variants.
U
So,
at
least
in
the
way
that
I
read
the
variance
code
is
that
it
it's
practical
difficulties
exist
in
complying
with
the
ordinance
because
of
circumstances
unique
to
the
property
wanting
parking
on
that
space
is
not
unique
to
that
property.
That's
unique
to
the
project
and
I
think
that
we're
lumping
what
is
wanted
for
the
project
into
the
same
category
is
what's
unique
for
the
property.
Those
are
two
different
things
we're
talking
when
we're
dealing
with
the
variants
we're
dealing
with
the
dirt
of
this.
U
A
U
It
could
be,
but
potentially
it
couldn't
be
because
it
has,
you
know
you
guys,
would
know
better
than
I
in
the
Planning
Commission
no
better
than
I.
Has
there
been
a
proposal
presented
that
takes
into
account
the
grade
change
that
doesn't
request
a
variance,
because
it
seems
to
me
that
there
was
one
plan
proposed
and
that
plan
said
we
need
a
variance
to
actually
make
this
work
and
I
don't
know.
Maybe
there
was
five
different
ones
proposed.
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
but
what
is
presented
in
the
neighbor?
U
What
is
presented
the
council
right
now
is
one
plan
that
is
asking
for
a
variance
because
of
the
parking
it
doesn't
say
anything
about
the
great
change
and
there
it
talks
about
the
size
of
space
they
need
for
parking.
It
doesn't
talk
about
the
grade,
change,
I,
don't
believe
in
the
finding.
The
other.
Finding
that
it
talks
about
is
the
proposed
variants,
do
not
alter
the
essential
character
in
locality
or
be
injurious
to
the
use
or
enjoyment
of
the
property
in
the
vicinity.
U
U
So
if
you
want
to
say
that
the
character
of
that
neighborhood
is
based
on
50th
and
France,
I
would
disagree,
but
you
are
fundamentally
changing
the
essential
character
of
that
neighborhood,
not
only
in
the
density
that
is
being
created
by
those
units,
but
the
fact
that
there
is
nothing
even
close
to
that
size,
and
so,
unless
there
is
a
definition
that
says
the
essential
character
of
a
locality.
If
that
means
within
three
blocks,
does
it
mean
in
four
blocks?
U
Does
it
mean
in
Citywide
I,
don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
so
who
gets
to
determine
what
the
subjective
value
of
that
essential
character
is
of
the
neighborhood,
because
if,
if
you
ask
the
neighbors,
it's
one
thing,
if
you
ask
the
city
planner
it's
another,
yes
City
attorney,
it's
another
U.S
developer,
it's
another,
and
so
so
what
we're
asking
for
is
not
here's
what
we
want
to
see.
What
we
are
asking
for
is
follow
the
city
code.
U
There
is
a
code
and
there
are
are
limits
to
what
anybody
can
build
in
the
city
and
has
that
code
been
applied
to
this
first
and
then,
if
you
can't,
then
we
can
go
for
a
variance
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that
process
happened,
I
know
with
residential,
it
always
happens.
I've
been
involved
in
those
nope.
You
got
to
redesign
because
you
have
to
meet
the
variants
and
or
you
can't
get
the
variance.
U
So
is
this
I,
don't
know
why
it's
any
different
in
this
situation,
where
it's
we
asked
for
something
and
we're
granted
and
because
I
don't
think
that
any
one
of
these
things
were
taken
into
account
the
essential
character
of
the
neighborhood
or
the
locality.
However,
you
want
to
phrase
it
and
as
far
as
the
health
and
safety,
the
great
change
is
a
great
example.
U
U
U
U
We
can't
say:
let's
put
everybody
into
this
one
structure,
and
now
we've
checked
a
box,
and
now
we
look
great
because
I
think
that
what's
happening
is,
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
feeling
disenfranchised
with
this
system
and-
and
you
know,
there's
legal
arguments
that
can
be
made,
but
there's
ethical
arguments
that
have
to
be
heard
as
well.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
Applications
in
front
of
us,
we
will
now
hear
from
someone
from
the
development
team,
and
perhaps
you
could
start
by
answering
the
quest,
we'll
reset
the
clock.
You
can
start
by
asking
the
question
what
will
happen
if
four
feet
is
taken
off
the
building
and
if
it's
that
you
have
less
parking,
the
city
likes.
That
generally,
as
you
know,.
Q
A
That's
probably
not
a
big
deal
and
maybe
talk
in
Greater
detail
about
your
practical
difficulty
for
that
variance.
That
seems
to
be
the
one
that
I
I
think
they
have
a
legitimate
question
that
needs
to
be
answered.
V
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
committee
members.
My
name
is
Brian
Woolsey.
My
firm
is
monarch
and
I'm
co-developing
this
with
yellow
tree
and
I'm
joined
by
Sheldon,
Berg
and
Ben
patachik
of
djr
Architects.
So
I'm
going
to
speak
to
your
first
concern
which
what
what
happens?
If
we
don't
get
the
extra
four
feet
and
the
reality
is
we'd
lose
is
somewhere
in
the
area
of
nine
plus
parking
spaces.
V
We
have
at
the
moment
we
have
63
parking
spaces
or
one-to-one
parking
ratio
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
you
know
we
met
with
the
committee
of
the
whole
with
Mr
rainville.
We
met
with
the
Fulton
neighborhood
association,
we
hosted
an
open
house
and
we
door
knocked
every
neighbor
from
50th
to
51st
on
Abbott
and
beard,
and
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
that
we
heard
from
the
neighbors
was
the
amount
of
density
and
the
impacts
of
of
parking
on
their
streets.
V
And
so
we've
worked
very
hard
to
accommodate
a
one-to-one
parking
ratio
which,
as
you
point
out,
isn't
the
requirement
of
the
development.
But
we
think
it's
certainly
a
benefit
of
the
neighborhood
and
of
our
of
our
renters
as
well
and
as
far
as
the
the
Practical
difficulty.
Yes,
there's
a
significant
grade
change
from
the
north
to
the
South.
We
have
two
entrances
to
the
parking
ramp,
one
one
that
enters
on
the
North
side
and
again
another
one
that
enters
from
the
south
side.
V
So
you
know
we've
we've
designed
the
building
in
a
way
that
you
would
have
walk-up
units
on
the
on
the
West
Side
to
create
a
streetscape
that
was
interesting.
We've
tried
to
observe
the
existing
setbacks
of
the
properties
both
to
the
South
and
to
the
East,
and
you
know
using
the
alleyway
as
a
place
to
direct
traffic
for
the
project.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
over
to
Sheldon.
To
add
any
other
comments
he
may
have.
K
Sure,
thank
you,
Madam,
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
K
I
think
the
only
thing
I
would
add
from
a
practical
difficulty
item
as
far
as
the
parking
is,
that
great
change,
and
by
losing
some
of
that
that
distance
on
the
especially
in
particular,
as
you
get
into
the
the
blow
grade,
parking,
which
is
obviously
a
much
larger
number
than
just
the
surface
parking
affecting
those
ones
on
the
east
side,
is
that
that
ramp
becomes
almost
well
it
sort
of
goes
beyond
what
would
be
a
comfortable
exercise
for
somebody
to
get
down
to
below
grade
parking.
K
K
Buffering
the
the
on-grade
parking
from
the
street
and
just
having
it
exposed
on
the
Alley
is
a
little
bit
of
that
room
which
really
does
only
affect
the
ground
floor
and
that's
why
we're
asking
for
it,
because,
in
our
view,
the
the
change
in
grade
makes
getting
the
below
grade
parking,
which
I
think
everybody
wants,
because
you
don't
you,
don't
see
it
and
and
it,
and
if
that
ramp,
pushes
further
to
the
West,
which
would
allow
us
to
get
rid
of
that
part
of
that.
K
The
variance,
then
that
affects
both
the
usability
of
that
below
grade
parking,
as
well
as
the
walk-up
units
on
that
on
the
west
side.
So
that's
that's
really
the
Crux
of
of
where
this
is
coming
from,
where
we
felt
it
was
giving
enough
setback
on
that
ground
floor
to
to
meet
the,
let's
just
say:
the
intent
of
the
setback
requirements
and
then
giving
the
building
enough
room
that
it
can
still
function
within
that
site.
A
A
A
P
Good
afternoon,
council
members,
thank
you
for
hearing
us
in
this
situation.
Today.
Yeah
I'm,
David,
Johnson,
I'm,
the
owner
and
occupant
of
a
duplex
directly
across
the
alley
from
the
proposed
project.
P
P
I
work
with
would
concur
with
that
and
I
would
think
that
the
developer
and
owner
would
have
some
conscientious
Direction
in
their
minds
and
planning
about
that
part
of
it
too,
because
people
are
going
to
look
at
this
and
decide
whether
or
not
they
want
to
buy
these
units
and
that's
got
to
factor
in,
but
these
variances,
yes,
okay,
so
they're
focusing
their
conversation
on
accommodating
parking,
but
if
it
didn't
have
63
units
one-on-one,
why
can't
it
be?
You
know
again:
I'm,
not
I,
don't
claim
to
say
I
want
this.
P
There
so
put
this
there,
but
why
can't
it
be
four
four.
You
know
stories
instead
of
five
I
mean
currently,
what
we
got
there
is
that
church
is,
on
average
three
and
a
half
Stories
part
of
its
three
stories
and
part
of
its
two.
The
only
reason
they
call
it
four
right
now
is
because
the
steeple
is
two
stories
itself,
a
spindly
little
thing,
but
in
any
case
what
Dan
said.
P
A
Your
time
is
up
and
property
value
is
not
really
something
we
can
consider.
I
do
want
to
note
for
you,
they
are
providing
on-site,
affordable
housing,
which
is
what
allowed
them
to
get
the
bonus
and
how
many
units
whatever?
Is
it
one?
Three
three.
P
A
A
And
I
don't
know
how
many
affordable
units
are
in
Fulton,
but
I
would
guess
any
would
be
good
right.
You
don't
have
to
answer
that.
I
would
say
the
city
would
say
any
would
be
good,
not
enough.
So
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
I
think
it's
a
bit
unfair
to
tell
them
they.
They
shouldn't
have
more
when
they're
doing
something
we're
asking
them
to
do,
and
then
they
have
to
offset
that
as
a
real
estate
agent.
You
probably
understand
that
by
having
making
enough
to
just.
P
A
A
Mr
Kelly
or
Mr
and
I
won't
say
it
right.
So
I'm
not
even
going.
W
W
Don
Kelly
and
I'm
immediately
south
of
the
project
right
next
door
and
I
think
A
lot's
been
said
here.
It's
quite
an
interesting
process.
You
know
having
not
been
through
it
I
think.
The
thing
that
you
know
sticks
out
to
me
is
the
fact
that
you
know
with
these
variances.
You
know:
I
understand
the
height.
You
guys
have
addressed
that.
W
That's
not
really
variance
there's.
So
when
it
comes
down
to
the
Practical
side
of
the
you
know
the
the
fact
that
the
alley
is
going
to
have
two
entrances.
W
It
feels
to
me
what
I
keep
coming
back
to
is.
It
seems
kind
of
circular
here
it's
like
the
size
of
the
project
is
dictating
the
variances
right.
It
just
seems
like
well.
Why
not
just
stick
with
what
the
zoning
says
versus
trying
to
outsize
and
create
too
large
of
a
of
a
building
for
a
residential
neighborhood
I
appreciate
putting
the
parking
in
we
all
like
that,
because
parking
is
going
to
be
a
problem.
W
I
think
you
know
maybe
I'm
right
or
or
maybe
I'm
not
right
here,
but
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
requirement
for
tenant
parking.
You
know
for
for
the
tenants
which
okay,
great
the
parking
will
be
there,
but
what,
if
tenants,
don't
sign
up
for
parking
right?
It's
going
to
spill
out,
so
you
know
I,
think
for
me
again.
W
You
know
I
think
it
feels
circular
to
have
to
Grant
variances
for
something
that's
created
by
what's
been
designed,
and
that's
that
that
you
know
I
I
can't
imagine
you're
not
going
to
see
this
again
and
again
and
again,
given
what
the
codes
are
and
what
this
2040
plan
is.
So
you
know
that's
what
I
wanted
to
add
and
I
appreciate
you
all
listening
to
it,
especially
on
the
daylight
today.
So.
A
W
X
So,
as
the
the
previous
speakers
have
noted,
thank
you
I
know.
You
all
have
a
tough
job.
I
know
that
you
all
are
really
Bound
by
the
law
and
not
emotional
arguments.
So
we
we
completely
get
that
and
and
I
know,
also
that
you
spend
your
days
listening
to
what
people
don't
want.
X
So
I
thought
I'd
tell
you
what
we
do.
First,
we
welcome
the
Builder
to
the
neighborhood.
We
welcome
development,
there's
an
abandoned
church
there.
We
don't
want
that
property
to
sit
vacant.
X
You
made
the
comment
earlier
that
there's
limited,
affordable
housing
in
Fulton.
There
is
there's
limited
diversity.
That's
a
travesty!
We
need
to
change
that.
So
none
of
us
are
against
that.
I
think
what
we're
telling
you
that
we're
for
is
the
builder
getting
exactly
what
they
bought.
X
You
know
we
want
something.
That's
going
to
enrich
the
neighborhood.
We
welcome
new
neighbors
I'm,
not
here,
to
tell
them
what
to
build.
They
can
figure
out
what
to
build
within
the
property
that
they
bought,
and
that's
really
all
that
we're
asking
for
so
appreciate
your
time
and
appreciate
your
consideration.
Thank.
A
Y
My
name
is
Constance
Pepin
and
I
live
at
4031,
Zenith,
Avenue
South,
and
even
though
I'm
here
for
a
different
appeal,
I
felt
it
important
to
just
highlight
a
really
important
consideration
that
I
hope
our
elected
officials
are
going
to
work
on
in
terms
of
implementing
2040,
and
that
is
this
vague
definition
of
practical
difficulties,
which
is
really
unfair
to
people
who
are
trying
to
take
care
of
their
properties
and
their
neighborhood
and
I'm,
not
arguing
with
or
blaming
anyone.
In
particular
I'm
saying.
Y
This
is
just
one
of
many
issues
that
I
hope
a
thoughtful
elected
official
will
try
to
reconcile,
and
that
is
that
they're
really
right
now.
There
really
is
no
practical
difficulty
for
this
builder.
In
fact,
I
have
in
front
of
me
the
staff
report
that
says
the
reason
that
they
have
to
have
one
of
these
variances
is
in
order
to
build
what
they
want
to
build.
Y
Y
But
I
really
do
ask
our
elected
officials
in
your
in
your
efforts,
which
I
know
you're
making
to
be
empathetic
with
residents
to
be
respectful
of
residents
and
to
ensure
a
more
fair
and
justifiable
implementation
of
the
comprehensive
plan
that
you
put
in
place.
More
specific
definitions
of
things
like
practical
difficulties,
because
this
one
is
not
working
over
and
over
and
over
again
people
like
me
and
the
appellant
come
up
and
say
there
is
no
practical
difficulty
I've
seen
this
a
hundred
times
in
the
38
years.
Y
I've
lived
here,
although
I
think
you
called
it
something
else
before
a
hardship,
so
there's
no
hardship,
There's,
no
practical
difficulty
and-
and
you
feel
you're
saying
your
hands
are
tied.
You
know,
but
you
know
they're
really
not
tied,
because
you
could
instead
of
kind
of
justifying
why
the
out
why
the
applicant
gets
to
do
this,
you
could
say
you
know
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
practical
difficulty
either.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Miss
Pepin.
A
M
M
I
would
like
to
just
point
out
one
thing:
the
developer
said
during
that
brief
presentation
about
getting
input
from
the
community
door
knocking
having
meetings
and
the
a
big
issue
was
parking
well,
that
door
knocking
those
meetings
all
took
place
after
this
development
was
forced
towards
us.
We
saw
that
we
we
went
to
the
meeting
this
was
already
presented
to
us.
M
The
parking
was
already
in
place
with
these
numbers
that
door
knocking
all
took
place
after
that,
so
to
state
that
they
were
they're
really
working
hard
to
on
behalf
of
the
residents
of
the
area
to
accommodate
this
parking.
Well,
it's
the
other
way
around,
so
I
just
thought
I
would
bring
that
and
make
sure
everybody
noticed
what
was
said
in
what
order.
Thank
you
thank.
A
S
Chair
Goodman,
it's
a
state
law
definition.
The
city
obtains
its
zoning
and
planning
Authority.
It's
enabling
Authority
from
the
state
Municipal
planning
act,
there's
a
definition
of
practical
difficulties
in
the
state
law
and
our
ordinance
is
intended
to
mirror
that
essentially,
but
it
breaks
down
without
reading
the
specific
definition
it
breaks
down
into
three
essential
prongs,
whether
they
would
like
to
use
their
property
in
a
reasonable
manner,
unique
circumstances
of
the
lot
and
will
it
alter
the
essential
character,
the
locality
or
be
injurious
to
neighboring
property.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Mr
Crandall.
There
had
been
a
question
about
the
underlying
zoning
and
underlining
guidance
and
what's
happening
with
2040,
could
you
remind
us
of
that
and
then
also
speak
to
the
Practical
difficulty
as
it
pertains
to
this
parking
situation
and
the
grade
change
and
how
you
view
it.
T
Sure
so
the
underlying
zoning
has
not
been
updated
to
reflect
the
2040
plan.
That's
a
process,
that's
currently
underway,
although
there
is
a
new
built
form
overlay,
District,
that's
been
placed
on
the
site,
that's
reflective
of
that
Corridor,
four
built
form
overlay
and
again
that
has
a
base
maximum
of
four
stories
in
height
that
can
be
increased
up
to
six.
A
They're
adjacent
to
50th,
correct,
correct,
and
so
the
2040
plan
went
through
and
everything
adjacent
to
50th
has
a
corridor
criteria,
because
the
staff
team
and
council
at
the
time
believed
that
that
is
a
major
Corridor
in
this
neighborhood
and
could
adopt
additional
density.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
T
A
It's
not
that
this
is
not
different.
This
is
there's
going
to
be
more
of
this.
I
guess
is
what
I'm
trying
to
say
along.
T
T
I
did
want
to
point
out
that
the
grade
change
on
the
Alley
is
cited
specifically
in
the
staff
findings
for
a
unique
circumstance
on
the
site,
with
relationship
to
that
rear
yard
setback,
so
that
in
combination
with
some
of
the
established
yards,
which
are
existing
on
the
site
prior
to
the
proposal
of
the
project,
the
setback
along
beard
is
currently
20
feet.
That's
the
established
setback.
The
requirement
under
the
base
zoning
would
only
be
15.,
so
that's
a
greater
setback
than
would
normally
be
required,
a
long
beard
and
then
along
50th
Street.
A
T
Yeah,
so
the
the
proposed
height
of
the
building
as
measured
in
feet,
is
58
59
feet,
and
then
that
is
the
the
basically
the
base
maximum
height
as
measured
in
feet
in
the
corridor.
4
is
56.,
so
the
the
requests
to
increase
is
only
about
three
feet
as
measured
in
feet
rather
than
in
stories.
Okay,.
A
A
A
A
G
Man
I'm
sure
I
moved
to
deny
the
appeal
for
item
number.
Seven.
A
And
can
you
speak
to
that
and
also
ask
staff
to
direct
findings,
a
fact
based
on
the
testimony.
G
I'm
speaking
to
that,
because
of
the
law
and
of
the
ordinance
that
we
have
the
2040
plan
that
we
have
to
uphold
that
and
I
I
wish
staff
I
would
direct
staff
to
include
that
in
their
findings.
S
Children
but
I
would
just
note
and
perhaps
I'm
confused
if
I
am
I
apologize,
but
on
this
one.
If
the
committee
agrees
with
the
staff
report
and
the
proposed
findings
of
the
staff
report,
you
can
just
adopt
those
findings
today
and
that
is
sufficient.
Okay,.
G
So
I'm
going
to
change
my
motion
to
uphold
the
staff
findings
and.
G
B
A
Matter
has
been
resolved,
the
findings
have
been
adopted.
The
appeal
has
been
denied.
We
will
then
move
on
to
our
last,
oh
and
then
actually
before
I'm
mailing
I
am
so
sorry
I'd
like
to
take
up
the
rezoning
next.
Please
just
just
try
to
kind
of
clean
this
up
a
little
bit.
Mr
Crandall.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
that
or
I?
Think
we've
we've
been
pretty
extensive
on
the
rezoning
I
could
recoup
it.
I
could
recap
it.
Does
anyone
need
a
recap
or
can
I
move
approval
of
the
change
in
zoning?
Is
there?
A
Is
there
any
objection
saying
none
I'm
gonna
move
the
staff
report
as
it
pertains
to
the
rezoning
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
any
opposed
that
has
been
approved
then
now
Ms,
mailing
I'm.
So
sorry,
we'll
move
back
to
items
number
eight
and
nine.
This
is
a
site
plan,
approval
appeal
by
Stephanie
Hawkins,
as
well
as
a
site
plan
appeal
by
Ian
Harrison,
because
it's
the
same
property.
A
We
are
going
to
tie
them
together
and
we
will
give
both
Mr
Hawkinson
no
Ms,
Hawkinson
and
Mr
Harrison
10
minutes
each
if
they
want
it
to
speak
to
their
appeal,
because
there's
two
and
we're
combining
them
together,
we'll
have
the
staff
report
first
and
then,
if
you
are
interested
in
testifying,
please
bring
us
your
purple
pink
sheet,
sign
up
or
sign
up
with
the
clerk
and
she'll
give
us
the
sheet
Mei
Ling
welcome.
Thank
you.
Z
So,
son,
okay,
thank
you,
chair
Goodman
and
committee
members,
and
this
project
is
at
forty
three
hundred
and
forty
three
twelve
Upton
Avenue
South,
located
at
the
southwest
corner
at
43rd
and
Upton
Avenue
South.
Currently
it's
two
parcels
and
they
are
proposing
to
combine
the
Lots
to
create
one
zoning
lot
and
you
can
see
some
photos
here
of
the
existing
buildings.
Z
Z
And
the
proposal
is
technically
in
addition
to
the
existing
jewelry
store,
it's
four
stories
in
height
with
a
stepped
back,
fourth
story
that
allows
for
a
Terrace.
On
the
fourth
floor,
the
applications
required
is
just
site
plan
review
for
this
project
and
the
main
floor
would
contain
likely
a
retail
space,
and
then
the
upper
stories
would
contain
Office
Space,
here's
a
rendering
provided
by
the
applicant.
Z
Z
The
Planning
Commission
recommended
approval
and
adopting
the
staff
recommendation
at
their
December
5th
meeting.
As
you
know,
there
are
two
appeals
before
you
today
and
I'm
here.
To
answer
any
questions.
A
Are
there
any
questions
for
staff?
With
regards
to
the
report
in
front
of
us,
seeing
none
stay
close.
Thank
you.
We
will
ask
Ms
Hawkinson
to
speak.
First,
you
have
10
minutes
ma'am.
AA
There
will
be
two
of
us
speaking
on
this
appeal
today
so
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
Stephanie
Hawkinson
I'm
here
as
representative
for
my
family,
who
has
owned
4306
Upton
since
1901.
the
parcel
that
is
surrounded
on
three
sides
by
the
proposed
development.
My
grandfather
and
his
brothers
opened
a
grocery
store
here
and
frequently
offered
Groceries
on
credit
for
customers
to
pay
what
they
could.
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My
father
was
a
strong
advocate
for
the
small
independent
businesses
in
the
area,
a
strong
advocate
of
people
who
are
traditionally
under
resourced
and
he
recognized
that
an
area
remained
affordable,
then
re,
then
it
remained
open
and
accessible
to
diverse
community
of
people
who
had
access
to
a
vibrant
economy.
He
passed
away
last
spring
and
I'm
here,
representing
my
mother,
my
sisters
and
its
grandchildren
to
uphold
the
values
he
held
for
the
community
professionally.
For
the
past
26
years,
I've
worked
in
development
for
15
years.
AA
I
worked
in
Community,
Development
part
departments
here
in
the
Metro
and
for
11
years,
I
worked
on
the
private
realm
on
the
developer
side,
I
understand
the
development
process
and
the
complicated
variables
and
stressors
that
lead
to
project
approval.
In
addition,
I've
attended
conferences
in
red
periodicals
touting
the
merits
of
the
Minneapolis
2040
plan
and
I
agree
with
the
praise.
I
believe
the
plan
is
aspirational,
goals
that
allow
for
the
preservation
of
historic
buildings
that
tend
to
have
reduced
rents,
to
support
small
independent
businesses
and
I
support,
greater
density
and
Transit
order.
AA
Development
I
do
not
believe
those
goals
need
to
be
in
conflict
that
the
new
development
is
designed
well
and
built
appropriately.
This
proposal
is
not
that
development
that
meets
these
goals.
This
proposal
pits
a
large
new
development
that
is
not
supported
by
market
forces
against
the
health
and
vibrancy
of
a
neighborhood
commercial
node.
The
proposed
development
conflicts
with
the
aspirations
of
the
2040
plan.
AA
The
Proposal
calls
for
administrative
approval
to
combine
two
lots.
This
is
allowed
when
the
two
lots
are
owned
by
the
same
entity.
However,
according
to
the
tax
records,
4300
Upton
is
zoned
by
4
300,
Upton,
LLC
and
4312
Upton
is
owned
by
Harman
plan
Upton
Avenue
LLC.
This
is
not
the
same
ownership
entity.
Therefore,
it
begs
the
question
on
whether
these
slots
may
be
combined
administratively,
and
it
highlights
the
lack
of
transparency
regarding
administrative
approval.
The
lock
combination
also
requires
a
small
Independent
Business
to
move.
AA
Although
a
new
commercial
space
will
be
created
is
smaller
than
was
needed
by
the
existing
business
and
history
shows
that
new
buildings
charge
higher
rents
in
older
buildings,
so
the
proposal
does
in
fact
remove
affordable
housing
units
and
displaces
a
small,
independent
and
thriving
business.
The
proposed
development
has
direct
detrimental
effect
on
the
adjacent
business.
For
over
a
hundred
years,
there
is
access
to
the
back
of
4306
from
43rd
Street
and
from
the
trolley
access
way.
The
property
was
able
to
support
two
small
businesses,
one
in
front
and
one
in
back.
The
developer.
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AA
Was
erected
on
the
west
lot
line,
cutting
off
vehicle
and
visual
access
to
the
back
of
the
building
and
partially
strangling
off
4306,
but
denying
the
building
long-standing
prescriptive
rights
to
the
back
door
and
parking
pad
being
cut
off
the
small
business
in
the
back
was
forced
to
close.
Furthermore,
the
patio
and
walkway
at
4312
were
built
at
a
higher
grade,
so
the
storm
water
is
directed
to
the
back
of
my
building,
creating
flooding
and
warmer
months
and
ice
rink
in
the
winter.
The
building
was
also
cut
off
from
garbage
collection.
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When
my
father,
Lay
Dying
John
gross,
approached
me
to
sell
I
declined,
as
I
too
believe
in
selling
was
not
in
the
best
interest
of
the
community.
Soon
thereafter,
another
metal
screen
was
erected
along
the
north
lot
line
thoroughly
boxing
the
property
in
yet
the
staff
reported.
The
time
this
plan
was
approved,
stated
there's
no
fencing
proposed
as
part
of
this
project.
Land
use
policies
are
supposed
to
be
designed
to
promote
development
that
is
compatible
with
nearby
properties,
neighborhood
character
and
natural
features.
AA
AA
The
proposed
development
is
also
in
violation
of
chapter
598.110
of
the
zoning
code
regarding
stormwater
management,
not
only
because
the
impact
it
has
on
4306,
but
because
of
the
lack
of
management
plan
for
the
combined
Parcels
in
their
entirety.
As
indicated
by
staff,
the
proposed
development
does
not
meet
the
size
thresholds
require
thorough
storm
water
management
plan.
However,
when
you
include
include
the
early
phase
of
Redevelopment
of
this
parcel,
the
size
requirement
has
been
exceeded,
because
Redevelopment
has
occurred
in
phases
to
not
recuse
the
developer
from
complying
with
city
code.
AA
In
fact,
the
staff
report
references
the
earlier
phases:
rationale
for
not
requiring
the
developer
to
plant
recovery
required
number
of
trees
and
shrubs
as
part
of
its
current
phase.
You
can't
have
it
both
ways.
Proposal
does
not
comply
with
city
code
and
a
couple
of
other
areas,
namely
sanitation
collection
and
bicycle
parking
based
on
the
plans
presented.
Access
to
garbage
collection
for
4
300
of
those
currently
behind
the
building
would
be
cut
off
as
it
was
for
4306.
AA
Therefore,
the
proposal
not
only
caused
me
to
be
in
violation
of
chapter
225.40
pertaining
to
solid
waste
collection,
but
the
proposed
development
itself
is
in
violation.
The
staff
report-
States
The
Refuge
bins-
will
remain
where
they
are,
but
this
proposal
cuts
off
access
to
them
by
eliminating
the
43rd
Street
curb
cut,
also
indicating
the
staff
report.
There
are
too
few
bicycle
spaces,
which
exacerbates
an
existing
shortage
that
causes
bikers
to
park
in
my
garden
behind
4306.
AA
Furthermore,
the
creation
of
an
office
building
at
this
post
pandemic
work
remote
world
does
not
align
with
any
of
the
2040
goals.
The
one
Community
Zoom
meeting
the
developer
was
unable
to
explain
any
sustainable
features.
The
development
has
taken
away
jobs,
but
not
creating
any.
It
does
not
respect
the
historic
nature
of
the
area.
It
does
not
create
affordable
housing.
It
does
not
eliminate
disparities.
In
fact,
it
may
actually
serve
to
exacerbate
disparities
by
negatively
impacting
small
existing
businesses,
and
the
developer
did
not
involve
Equitable
civic
participation.
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AB
My
name
is
Jennifer
Hinton.
My
address
is
2700
West
44th
Street
in
Linden,
Hills
I'm,
also
a
named
appellant
with
the
Hawkins
and
appellant
appeal.
I
created
a
petition
on
change.org
to
allow
Linden,
Hills
residents
and
all
community
members
who
oppose
the
proposed
office
building
at
43rd
and
Upton
I
asked
the
city
clerk
and
city
planner
to
ensure
all
of
you
received
a
link
prior
to
this
meeting,
so
I
hope
you
did
receive
that.
AB
Why
did
I
create
this
petition
because,
as
the
Hawkinson
appeal,
States,
Community
notification
and
engagement
related
to
this
proposal
were
insufficient,
there
was
one
Zoom
call
hosted
by
the
Linden
Hills
neighborhood
association
on
November
14th,
to
give
the
developer
an
opportunity
to
inform
the
community
of
his
plans.
Little
discussion
occurred
and
most
questions
and
concerns
about
the
project
were
left
unanswered.
AB
Two
weeks
later,
this
petition
went
live
on
December
1st.
The
response
has
been
remarkable.
If
everyone
who
signed
this
petition
were
here
right
now,
we
would
have
829
people
around
me
right
now,
829
signatures
during
a
busy
holiday
season
at
a
current
rate
of
25
signatures
a
day.
The
petition
will
have
a
thousand
signatures
opposing
this
proposal
by
mid-January,
based
on
the
comments
these
signatures
came
from
New
and
established
residents,
both
younger
and
older
community
members.
AB
The
petition
results
show
how
strongly
the
the
community
objects
to
this
proposal,
and
the
number
of
those
objecting
is
far
beyond
what
the
developer
claimed
would
be
a
small,
vocal
minority.
So
what
do
829
people
in
our
community
around
our
community
object
to?
First
many
residents
objected
to
the
fact
that
this
is
an
office
building,
not
affordable
housing.
AB
Some
quotes
from
Greg
Haugen
I,
don't
see
how
a
modern
Office
Building
Development
in
the
high
vacancy
Market
is
consistent
with
the
2040
plan
for
growth,
housing
and
historical
value
from
Sandra
Duclos
field.
This
building
is
totally
inconsistent
with
the
character
of
the
neighborhood,
nor
will
it
offer
low-income
housing,
which
the
city
and
our
community
desperately
needs.
The
only
one
who
stands
to
to
gain
here
is
the
developer.
AB
Second,
residents
strongly
objected
that
this
office
building
went
unnecessarily
deplete,
displace
a
thriving,
family-owned,
small
business
that
has
served
the
community
for
25
years.
Many
of
you
may
have
eaten
there.
It's
also
financially
weathered
a
pandemic.
This
is
the
zumbro
cafe
from
Karen
sandis
a
petition
signer.
There
is
no
need
to
build
an
out
of
scale
out
of
character,
commercial
building
when
there
is
plenty
of
vacant,
commercial
and
often
space
in
the
com
in
the
neighborhood,
especially
not
at
the
expense
of
a
long-standing
neighborhood
institution
like
zumbro
I'll
close
today.
AB
We're
here
because,
on
December
5th
5th
at
least
two
planning
Commissioners
expressed
discomfort
with
the
lack
of
community
notification
and
engagement
and
the
community
has
now
spoken.
We
are
opposed
almost
a
thousand
of
us.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
A
Thank
you
for
being
here,
so
the
other
appellant
is
welcome
to
come,
speak
as
well,
and
you
have
10
minutes,
sir.
AC
Hi
I'm
Ian
Harrison.
If
you
don't
mind,
I'm,
not
going
to
take
up
the
whole
10
minutes.
If
I
can
have
a
constant
speed.
AC
AC
Okay,
got
it
good.
Snowy
afternoon,
everyone
happy
New
Year
to
each
of
you.
My
name
is
Ian
Harrison,
my
pronouns.
Are
he
him?
His
I
live
in
the
Fulton
neighborhood
at
5035,
Upton
Avenue
South,
not
too
far
from
the
previous
project.
We
talked
about
today
I'm
a
married
father
of
two:
that's
not
supporter
of
Lake
Harriet,
Community
School,
which,
as
you
know,
has
the
lower
campus
and
the
Linden
Hills
neighborhood
and
the
upper
Campus
located
in
the
Fulton
neighborhood.
AC
As
one
of
my
public
comments
stated,
I
am
not
personally
opposed
to
John's
project
I.
Think
it's
actually
beautiful
and
I've
stated
that
publicly
in
terms
of
use
and
design.
However,
numerous
residents
now
we
know,
825
have
voiced
their
opposition
to
the
use
design,
complete
disregard
to
the
2013
small
area
plan,
which
is
approved
by
city
council
and
apparent
permission
for
the
developer
to
dominate
our
neighborhood
and
bulldoze
any
public
interest
in
favor
of
his
personal
profit.
AC
Linden
Hills
is
amazingly
quaint,
Charming
walkable
and
warm
with
wonderful,
socially
conscious
and
civically
minded
people
bring
this
together
with
the
wonderful
public
schools
in
our
neighborhood,
and
it
completes
the
reason.
My
wife
and
I
moved
here
just
more
than
13
years
ago,
however,
I'm
here
and
filed
an
appeal
to
this
decision,
because
I've
intently
listened
to
numerous
comments
from
residents
and
other
business
owners
and,
along
with
the
tremendous
results
of
this
petition,
it's
obvious
that
the
neighborhood
opposition
of
the
project
far
outweigh
those
that
support
it.
AC
Just
yesterday,
I
I
thought
it
might
be
good
to
go
back
and
watch
the
presentation
again
as
it's
on
the
neighborhood
association
website,
and
it's
also
on
YouTube
I
pay,
particularly
close
attention
to
those
comments
made
by
the
developer
himself.
During
the
meeting
he
was
very
direct
in
stating
that
he's
approached
many
business
owners
in
the
neighborhood
about
monetizing
his
effort
to
provide
parking
for
his
future
tenants
mentioning
that
he
has
approached
Mark
sedergren
owner
of
Southern's
Ace
Hardware
about
paying
Mark
for
private
use
of
his
parking
lot
for
his
customers.
AC
He
also
made
a
statement
that
it
was
be
worthwhile
for
Jones,
Coffee,
navias
type,
Easter
and
others
to
share
their
parking.
He
was
blatant
in
stating
that
it
was
very
important
from
a
developer's
standpoint
to
pay
to
get
parking
for
tenants.
The
moderator
for
the
meeting
actually
made
a
very
important
statement
in
my
opinion
that
a
developer
of
this
site
would
be
expected
to
create
solutions
for
parking
and
be
an
active
Champion
for
more
parking
in
the
neighborhood.
AC
Miss
Hawkinson
then
spoke
and
mentioned
that
one
of
her
primary
concerns
is
a
business
owner
and
landlord
in
a
neighborhood.
Is
that
what
remaining
parking
exists
in
the
neighborhood
is
being
privatized
and
that
business
owners,
landlords
and
developers
should
work
to
preserve
and
support
the
need
for
more
public
parking
in
the
neighborhood?
She
stated
that
this
privatization
is
hurting
and
negatively
impacting
other
small
businesses
in
the
neighborhood
and
as
they
and
their
employees
and
clients
and
customers
depend
on
the
fact
that
there
is
public
parking.
AC
The
developer
Mr
gross
then
responded
that
these
were
all
good
points
and
that
the
issue
is
how
do
we
do
this
thing?
He
mentioned
that
he
and
his
partner,
Mr
Johannes,
previously
had
an
office
at
50th
and
France
in
Edina,
and
then
Edina
was
brilliant
about
this.
At
50th
and
France
and
building
their
parking
garage
for
businesses
in
that
District,
he
went
on
to
say
that
it
was
such
a
such
a
value,
so
an
inexpensive
yet
so
valuable
and
it's
at
an
extra
cost
but
I
think
it's
an
important
one.
AC
What
I
was
left
living
reviewing
the
video
is
that
he
admits
that
he
is
following
city
law
and
he's
allowed
to
build.
Whatever
he
wants
on
the
site
to
meet
the
current
market,
I
was
left
the
impression
he
might
even
consider
building
housing
on
the
site,
but
knows
that
such
a
project
were
to
ultimately
require
parking
for
residents
in
that
neighborhood
I
took
away
that
he
might
even
boldly
and
bravely
consider
affordable
housing,
but
he'd
need
financial
assistance
and
make
it
work.
The
land
is
too
expensive.
AC
AC
The
ultimate
goal
here,
folks,
is
that
he
knows
he
can
build
this
project
because
it
meets
code
and
it
it
fits
with
what
the
city
wants,
but
at
the
flip
side,
we'll
privatize,
more
neighborhood
parking
and
he
will
need
to
provide
that
to
obtain
financing
and
attract
tenants
of
the
building.
Please
all
of
you,
this
subject,
property
will
reside
the
the
people
that
will
release
this
basically
linen
Hills,
Fulton,
Edina
or
St
Louis
Park.
There
will
be
affluent
and
very
busy.
They
will
not
always
have
time
to
walk
to
work.
AC
I'm
part
of
this
crowd
I
do
walk
to
work
about
50
of
the
time
about
20
minutes
from
my
house,
but
I
drive
about
half
the
time
too,
because
I
have
kids
and
I
have
to
run
to
appointments
the
folks
at
least
this
space
will
be
in
the
same
boat,
foreign.
AC
AC
I'd
highly
suggest
the
city
revisit
the
2040
plan,
with
rezoning,
specifically
for
residential
or
mixed
use,
along
Upton
Avenue,
as
well
as
43rd
Street,
to
allow
more
folks
to
live
within
the
village,
with
the
Demolition
of
Summer
of
Cafe
as
part
of
the
subject
property,
it
will
take
away
affordable
residential
residential
units
in
the
neighborhood.
Also,
the
same
developer
now
has
converted
residential
units
in
the
neighborhood
to
building
more
office
suites.
AC
This
goes
against
what
I
thought
was
the
most
important
elements
within
the
city's
2040
plan.
Let's
work
together
to
find
an
economic
solution
to
existing
landlords
and
developers
along
these
corridors
to
provide
more
additional
levels
of
affordable
housing.
How
about
that?
Affordable
housing,
trust
money?
Many
of
us
and
likely
more
than
more
than
many
of
you
may
think
in
Linden,
Hills,
Fulton
and
other
neighborhoods
want
to
find
a
solution
to
allowed
for
this.
Affordable
housing
and
what
is
the
whitest
with
a
t
neighborhoods
in
the
city?
AC
Please,
no
more
condos,
no
more
luxury
apartment,
Living
Well,
the
2040
plan
is
written.
The
city
is
essentially
paved
the
way
for
developers
to
make
Linden
Hills
and
Fulton
more
exclusionary,
building
a
gated
community.
That
is
only
for
the
affluent
to
live
and
work
here
and
enroll
in
our
Public
Schools.
AC
This
goes
against
everything
that
the
2040
plan
set
out
to
do,
and
we
continue
our
reputation
as
Jim
Crow
of
the
North.
This
will
require
the
city
and
the
neighbor
is
to
put
our
heads
together
and
find
the
solution.
However,
because
the
economics
just
don't
work
and
the
developer
knows
it
the
land's
too
expensive,
we
will
need
financial
assistance.
Now
is
the
time
to
make
the
change
not
later,
we
can't
wait,
but
now
and
with
extreme
urgency,
do
not
miss
on
this
moment.
AC
AC
His
only
solution
is,
he
has
to
pay
for
parking
with
adjacent
landlords,
have
mercy
on
the
developer
by
denying
the
project,
because
he's
spending
thousands
upon
thousands
of
dollars
in
architectural
engineering
and
legal
fees
to
make
this
happen,
because
there
is
an
expectation
that
he
can
manipulate
this
system
in
its
current
form
and
delivering
the
project
of
the
community.
AC
A
AD
Thank
you,
okay,
thank
you,
chair
Goodman
and
members
of
the
committee.
We
greatly
appreciate
all
that
you
do
here
in
the
greater
Council.
It's
been
a
really
tough
year
in
an
environment.
Not
here.
It's
been
a
really
tough
environment
for
the
past
three
years
for
everyone.
AD
So
we
feel
very
grateful
to
be
discussing
a
new
project
with
you
again.
I
am
John
gross.
My
business
partner
is
Tony
Johannes.
Each
of
us
have
lived
in
Minneapolis
our
entire
lives.
Tony
grew
up
in
Linden
Hills
and
lived
there
about
35
years.
I
grew
up
in
Prospect,
Park
and
I
have
lived
in
Linden
Hills
for
the
past
30
years.
AD
In
the
neighborhood
we
have
owned,
developed,
co-founded,
Martina,
Rosalia,
Cafe,
Cirrus
and
colita,
that's
just
in
the
Linden
Hills
neighborhood.
We
have
a
strong
commitment
to
community
spending,
a
lot
on
adaptive
reuse
to
create
projects
that
have
impact
for
the
community.
We
have
also
developed
projects
on
Washington,
north
and
Broadway,
and
just
a
block
from
that,
as
well
as
well
as
other
projects
and
in
all
have
been
adaptive
used,
except
for
one.
AD
AD
First
foremost,
this
is
a
buy
right
development.
We
are
not
asking
for
any
variances
on
this
project.
This
building
fits
within
the
2040
plan,
the
Linden
Hills
pedestrian
overlay
and
the
Corridor
four
yeah
I,
don't
know
all
of
them
that
they
all
fit
in
there
with
no
variance
request,
and
we
worked
hard
with
snow
cry
like
right
from
the
start,
so
that
we
could
come
to
you
with
a
project
that
fit
all
of
those
guidelines.
AD
The
second
thing
is:
there's
a
slight
misconception
about
what
we're
doing
the
proper
address
for
the
project
is
4300
Upton,
but
it's
really
two
buildings.
So
on
the
screen
there
you
see
the
white
building
on
the
corner,
Old
Brick,
two-story,
we've
extensively
renovated
that
it's
not
quite
done
yet.
Some
aesthetic
stuff
on
the
outside
has
to
happen,
but
that
one
remains
and
then
what
we're
taking
down
is
this
I'll
switch
with
you
Katie
this
building,
which
is
adjacent
and
is
a
was
built
as
a
one-story
lean-to.
AD
So
it's
you
know
structurally
was
just
leaning
against
the
white
building
and
then
on
top
of
it,
where
two
apartment
units
were
built,
but
you
can
almost
kind
of
see
how
the
edge
of
the
one
just
Falls
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
the
two
bays,
it's
it's
structured,
insufficient
old
and
it
needs
to
come
down.
We
own
the
building
that
backs
up
to
that.
I.
Think
that's
in
the
next
slide.
Oh
so,
when
that
comes
down,
this
will
be
the
direct
replacement
there
and
then
we'll
see
other
images.
AD
That
and
then
this
is
kind
of
a
important
slide
to
kind
of
show.
What
we're
actually
doing
so
in
blue
is
the
existing
4300
that
remains
two-story.
Brick
building
in
green
with
a
hatched
is
where
the
new
building
will
go
and
you
can
see
a
little
gray
underneath
the
green
hatched,
and
that
is
effectively
the
part
that
we're
taking
down
where
sunroof
Cafe
is
the
red
is
where
the
appellant
Stephanie,
hawkinson's
family's
building
is
and
her
building
is
red.
Shaded
the
white
behind
it
is
her
back
patio.
AD
N
AD
AD
AD
Okay,
so
the
lot
combination
not
being
allowed
it
actually
is
allowed
I,
don't
know
how
else
to
state
that,
but
there's
not
a
there's,
not
a
contest
there.
The
city
wouldn't
have.
Let
us
do
that
if
we
could
the
contention
that
we're
two
different
ownerships
both
entities
are
under
a
single
umbrella
ownership,
which
is
the
same
entity.
It's
it's
our
it's
our
same
company.
There
is
no
different
stairs,
so
that's
legal.
AD
The
her
property
does
not
now
nor
have
they
ever
had
prescriptive
rights
or
prescriptive
easement
further,
they
would
never
be
granted
one.
Their
building
is
located
on
public
right
away.
Their
front
door
is
on
Upton
Avenue.
AD
They
do
not
have
a
zero
outline
building
and
they
do
have
approximately
five
foot
wide
access
pathway
from
the
rear
of
their
building
to
the
public
right
away
on
Upton,
Avenue,
South
and
I'll
address
that
below
and
I
don't
know
if
you
need
a
more
technical
description
of
the
no
easement
rights,
but
we
can
provide
that
right
now.
You.
AD
AD
AD
They
have
chosen
to
cut
off
their
access
to
the
public
right-of-way
by
constructing
a
wooden
exterior
staircase
that
connects
from
a
large
second
floor
deck
to
the
five
foot
wide
passage
that
connects
Upton
Avenue
if
they
rebuilt
the
staircase
so
that
it
exited
behind
their
building
and
then
put
their
garbage
back.
There's
most
do
they
would
have
main
floor
Ada
access,
second,
floor
exit
access
and
easy
trash
removal.
AD
There's
other
issues
about
parking,
but
I
think
you
basically
could
hear
that
the
complaint
is
that
we
have
offered
to
rent
spaces
from
people
who
own
the
land,
we're
not
taking
over
other
people's
land
and
saying
this
is
all
ours.
It's
not
free
parking.
It's
the
we
currently
are
releasing
25
spaces
from
the
church.
The
church
had
always
wanted
to
least
those
spaces.
Everyone
was
using
them
for
free
and
we
said:
could
we
lease
them?
AD
We
are
not
required
to
have
them
under
the
pedestrian
overlay,
but
we
still
do
it
because
we
think
it's
the
right
thing
to
do,
because
we
know
our
customers
will
park
there
and,
as
Ian
said,
keep
parks
there
for
free
in
the
day,
and
we
don't
tell
them
we
we
go
well
with
that.
I
think
I
want
to
go
back,
something
really
quick.
AD
Oh
the
petition
yeah
that
one
is
hard
the
community
spoke
and
that
petition
was
created
without
once
contacting
the
developer
and
checking
to
see.
If
what
was
written
in
there
was
correct,
we're
not
displacing
zumbros
zumbros
on
a
month-to-month
lease
has
been
for
four
years.
We
offered
them
the
opportunity
to
go
in
there.
They
may
or
may
not
want
to
do
that,
based
on
the
timing
of
their
lives.
They've
been
doing
this
for
30
years
getting
up
at
three
in
the
morning.
AD
They
may
not
want
to
continue,
but
it's
theirs
if
they
want
it
and
the
issue
of
it
being
office,
not
housing,
that's
not
something
we
can
address
we're,
not
housing
developers,
that's
not
what
we
put
there
and
I
think
we've
tried
very
hard
to
to
be
good
community
members
and
create
solid
Community
projects
to
benefit
the
community
and
95
out
of
100
people
in
the
neighborhood
love.
F
Reasonable
something
we
want
to
comment
on.
First
of
all,
regarding
the
storm
water,
the
project
will
follow
any
design
and
development
standards
presented
by
the
City
of
Minneapolis.
As
you
know,
those
are
reviewed
during
the
preliminary
development
review
or
PDR
process.
We've
started
that
process
and
we
will
certainly
comply
with
any
of
the
design
requirements
for
the
storm
water,
so
that
should
be
covered
under
that
approval
period
and
then
lastly,
I
want
to
just
comment
on
the
sustainability
of
the
project.
F
The
snowcrylic
is
a
signatory
signatory
of
the
AAA
2030
commitment-
that's
not
maybe
as
recognizable
as
something
like
lead,
but
it's
something
that
is
a
progressive
approach
to
Net
Zero
projects
and
so
leading
up
to
2030,
there's
an
incremental
Improvement
upon
code
for
new
construction
and
so
with,
where
we're
tracking,
with
the
AI
2030
commitment,
the
design
team
targets,
78
Improvement
great.
A
Thank
you.
All
your
10
minutes
has
ended,
we'll
go
ahead
and
hear
from
Ms
Pepin
as
well
as
it's
very
hard
for
me
to
read.
Stuart
Fritz
I
believe
yes,
Miss
Pepin.
Y
You
have
two
minutes
thanks,
there's
many
reasons
for
you
to
Grant
the
appeal
and
I'll
focus
on
just
three
first,
as
noted
during
the
other
appeal,
the
prop
proposal
relies
completely
on
a
lot
combination
that
does
not
meet
the
conditions
in
the
statute
and
ignores
prescriptive
rights
of
access
for
an
adjacent
parcel
that
have
existed
for
over
a
hundred
years
before
that
4312
loud
is
combined.
Y
The
applicant
should
be
required
to
move
the
patio
that
he
built
that
encroaches
on
the
city-owned
land,
the
trolley
path,
right
of
way,
I
really
believe,
conditions
need
to
be
attached
if
you
do
decide
to
deny
the
appeal.
Second,
at
least
two
Commissioners
declined
to
approve
the
Project
based
on
concerns
about
the
lack
of
community
engagement.
This
proposal
actually
goes
against
the
community's
wishes,
as
expressed
in
the
Linden
Hills
area.
Small
small
area
plan.
Y
At
the
very
least,
the
city
council
should
clarify
that
the
small
area
plans
are
not
considered
anymore
rather
than
saying
that
those
plans
were
folded
into
Minnesota
Minneapolis
2040.,
please
be
honest.
All
that
work
is
not
even
considered
now
when
you
look
at
projects.
And
thirdly,
although
no
variances
are
requested,
the
project
is
not
consistent
with
2040..
They
quote
all
sorts
of
policies
in
the
staff
report
that
actually
do
not
justify
approving
the
project.
The
tree
is
one
example.
They
say
that
the
tree
canopy
is
improved,
they
don't
plant
any
trees.
Y
They
say
there
are
six
canopy
trees
on
the
lot,
which
is
wrong.
There's
six
columnar
ornamental
small
trees
that
they
currently
planted
to
screen
the
restaurant.
Those
should
not
be
qualified
as
counting
for
canopy
trees.
The
storm
water
management
issue
is
not
even
addressed,
there's
just
kind
of
a
vague
assurance
that
it
will
be,
even
though
policies
in
the
2040
plan
are
very
specific
about
best
management
practices.
That's
what
this
site
needs,
especially
given
the
flooding
problem
and
the
constant
damage
that
this
the
applicant
is
currently
causing
to
the
adjacent
parcel.
Y
The
large
concrete,
plaza
plaza,
will
increase
impervious
services
and
runoff,
despite
assurances
in
the
2040
plan,
so
at
a
minimum
I
believe
there
should
be
conditions
attached,
including
that
that
should
be
improv
permeable
surfaces
rather
than
impervious
surfaces
in
that
concrete
Plaza.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
K
AE
Chairwoman
Goodman.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
continuing
to
have
a
sense
of
humor
I
guess.
I
spent
four
seconds
name.
AE
I
would
like
to
specifically
ask
a
question
not
to
respond
while
I'm
talking,
but
to
the
attorneys
who
And
to
clarify
something,
because
I
was
here
at
the
original
planning
committee
and
spoke
and
said
that
this
that
the
I
was
told
that
the
2040
has
has
replaced
these
small
area
plan
goals
of
Linden
Hills.
The
small
area
plan
goal
of
Lynn
Hills
was
a
two-year
process.
It's
it
was
the
the
city
council
and
the
and
the
mayor
both
signed
off
on
it.
AE
It
is,
it
is
law
as
far
as
I
know
and
it
in
nowhere
in
the
2040
plan
about
1075
Pages
do
I
see
that
it
has
ever
been
replaced
or
rescinded.
So
in
and
in
fact,
I
think
that
the
that
the
2040
plan
nods
to
these
small
area
plan
and
says
we
will
continue
to
use
the
tenants
brought
up
in
that
small
area
plan.
The
smaller
plan
for
Linden
Hills
is
specific
to
Linden
Hills,
not
to
all
of
Minneapolis.
AE
It
is
more
specific
to
the
people
that
live
there
and
the
825
people
that
don't
think
that
this
building
works,
and
also
it
doesn't
show
that
that
the
goals
are
of
the
of
the
smaller
Planet
are
met.
The
goals
are
keep
and
enhance
what
makes
lineal's
commercial
districts
special.
AE
The
recognized,
Building
height
and
length
together
significantly
contribute
to
the
character
of
the
existing
developed
patterns
in
Linden
Hills.
None
of
this
has
been
addressed.
All
we're
asking
for
is
some
more
time
for
the
for
the
community
and
the
developers
to
address
the
things
that
are
in
the
already
in
the
small
area
plan
that
was
not
addressed
with
the
last
planning
committee.
Thank
you.
A
AB
It
is,
it
is
I
can
keep
it
to
45
seconds.
My
name
again
is
Jennifer
Hinton
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
the
statement
made
by
the
developer
about
the
zumbro
cafe
I'm
just
going
to
read
one
quote
from
one
of
the
folks
who
signed
the
the
petition
to
oppose
this.
This
is
from
Jeannie
long.
The
builders
have
misled
the
public
by
saying
that
zumbro
Cafe
would
be
part
of
their
new
building
when
the
owners
have
stated
publicly
that
they
could
not
operate
a
viable
business
in
the
small
space
they
were
offered.
AB
A
You
is
there
anyone
else
here
who
has
a
point
of
view
that
has
not
been
mentioned
yet
anyone
anyone
seeing
none
I'll
close
the
public
hearing,
Mr
Nielsen,
my
Ling
I,
have
a
couple
of
questions
just
for
clarification.
Please
I
had
a
very
important
small
area
plan
in
my
ward,
Loring,
Park
and
I
as
I
understood
it.
The
staff
during
2040
took
the
pieces
out
of
the
small
area
plans
that
were
consistent
with
all
of
the
other
feedback
that
were
being
used.
Some
things
stayed
the
same.
A
Z
Z
You
know
so
making
sure
that
they,
as
we
developed
land,
use
guidance
and
also
built
form
guidance
that
we
were
looking
to
those
small
area
plans.
So.
A
I
just
use
my
own
neighborhood
as
an
example,
so
in
Loring
Park
there
was
a
Loring
Park,
smart
small
area
plan,
and
there
was
a
request
that
it
not
be
up
zoned
taller
than
I.
Don't
remember
what
it
was
six
stories
somewhere
in
that
range
on
the
hill,
and
you
guys
took
guidance
from
that
to
make
the
decision
about
what
would
be
the
appropriate
land
use
designation.
Is
that
correct.
Z
A
And
then
I'm
also
wondering
the
neighborhood
associations
have
been
the
official
organizations
generally
representing
feedback
in
my
ward.
They
generally
don't
give
a
lot
of
feedback.
They
don't
feel
like
they
can
stop
a
project
or
push
it
through.
So
they
don't
give
a
lot
of
feedback.
I'm
wondering
did
Linden
Hill
speak
out
on
this.
Are
you
aware.
A
Z
A
Z
A
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
understood
that
I'm
wondering
if
Mr
Nielsen
can
you
opine
on
this
clarification
of
the
ownership
entity
or
maybe
mailing
wants
to
do
that
as
well,
and
then
also
just
remind
us,
I
thought:
storm
water
management,
Public,
Works
issues
and
everything
were
handled
in
PDR
before
everything
got
to
this
point
and
that's
why
my
staff
attends
PDR
I'm,
just
wondering
if
you
could
comment
on
that
as.
S
S
Chair
Goodman,
I,
I,
probably
defer
to
Mei
Ling
on
at
least
two
two
of
the
three
I
think
there
were
three
questions.
The
one
thing
I'll
just
note
on
one
of
your
previous
questions
with
regard
to
an
online
petition,
so
there's
a
principle
in
the
in
zoning
law
that
neighborhood
opposition
alone
is
not
a
legally
sufficient
reason
to
deny
a
project.
S
So
you
know
having
a
large
number
of
signatures
on
electronic
petition
in
and
of
itself
does
not
carry
any
particular
legal
weight
when
you're
evaluating
arguments
related
to
land
use
applications.
The
arguments
that
can
be
considered
and
have
Merit
go
to
the
required
findings
for
the
applications
at
issue
and
the
facts
as
applied
to
those
required
findings.
A
Okay,
can
you
speak
to
the
ownership
lot
combination.
A
Z
Yeah
I
think
there
are
two
questions
that
have
come
up
throughout
this
process
about
the
lot
combination.
One
is
that
they're
not
already
combined
and
that's
typical
of
all
of
our
development
projects.
We
don't
combine
them
until
really
they
have
their
entitlements.
We
don't
want
to
do
that
prematurely,
so
that
is
a
condition
of
approval
that
they
would
have
to
submit
that
tax
combination
parcel.
Z
We
don't
at
the
city,
don't
get
you
know
into
ownership,
necessarily
as
long
as
the
as
long
as
each
owner
of
each
parcel
has
assigned
a
representative
to
say:
okay,
we're
going,
you
know
we
do
have
a
common
person.
You
know
that
is
going
to
represent
both
parcels
and
for
a
zoning
lot
to
to
eventually
become
one
zoning
lot.
You
do
have
to
have
the
same
ownership,
so
the
Hennepin
County
will
have
to
determine
that
also
so
we'll
we'll
be
taking
in
that
information.
Z
Z
So
storm
water
management,
this
this
project
does
not
trigger
the
minimum
threshold.
That
requires
a
full
full-scale
stormwater
mitigation,
but
it
has
already
gone
through
the
PDR
process.
So
any
comments
that
have
come
out
of
that
that
first
round
of
PDR
review
the
applicant
will
have
to
respond
to
that
before
they
can
apply
for
any
building
permits
and.
A
We
would
think
it
would
be
great
if
they
would
build
a
courtyard
that
is
made
of
pervious
pavers,
and
all
of
that
kind
of
thing
is
that
something
you
can
agree
to
now:
Mr
gross
yeah,
yes
or
no,
can
you
agree
to
that
now?
Yes
or
no
great
mailing,
please
make
note
that
Mr
gross
has
agreed
that
the
pavement
portion
in
the
courtyard
would
be
made
of
primarily
not
exclusively
impervious
pavers
or
Services.
Z
A
Any
emotions
all
right,
kids,
I'm,
going
to
move
to
deny
the
appeal.
This
one
seems
easier
than
others.
It
feels
like
there's
a
lot
of
bad
blood
here
and
I
feel
like
we're
hearing
a
lot
of
bad
blood
and
emotion,
and
that's
not
really
what
we
have
to
take
into
consideration
and
making
a
determination
if
my
family
owned
a
building-
and
they
did
in
Chicago
for
many
many
years
and
there
was
dramatic
change
and
I
didn't
feel
that
I
was
being
treated
respectfully.
A
I
would
be
very
upset,
but
that's
not
our
issue
to
mediate
here.
Unfortunately,
and
if
there
was
great
change
in
a
corner
where
an
amazing
coffee
shop
was-
and
that
was
going
to
be
eliminated
for
this
fancy
new
expensive
building,
I
would
mourn
the
loss
of
that
coffee
shop
because
that's
kind
of
who.
A
Actually
think
that's
who
all
of
us
are
really,
but
the
owner
owns
the
property
and
as
long
as
the
owner
is
building
something
that
is
consistent
with
the
zoning
and
the
comprehensive
plan
and
is
not
asking
for
any
variances.
We
are
not
under
the
law
allowed
to
be
taking
these
emotional
sides
and
I
feel,
like
you
know,
we
probably
haven't
done
a
good
job
of
being
empathetic
enough,
but
that
is
the
role
that
we
have
here
and
I
feel
it
I
hear
it
a
lot.
I
mean
I've,
been
here
a
long
time.
A
B
A
Items
the
appeals
have
been
denied,
don't
get
up.
We
have
another
item.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
A
The
last
item
we
have
is
a
staff
report
on
the
mpha
Board
of
Commissioners
appointments
and
Ms
Dobson
is
here
I
appreciate
you
sitting
through
this
very
long
meeting.
Perhaps
if
anyone
has
any
questions,
you
could
explain
the
process
I
understand.
There
were
council
members
and
staff
on
the
panel.
There
has
been
a
lot
of
interviewing
going
on
and
you're
excited
about
these
appointments.
Maybe
you
can
just
speak
briefly
to
it.
If
anyone
has
any
questions,
they
can
ask
them
happily.
Thank
you.
Your
honor.
AF
Chair
Goodman
yeah,
that's
fun,
chair,
Goodman
and
council
members.
Thank
you,
I'm,
happy
to
speak
and
I'll
be
very
brief
on
this,
just
to
describe
the
process
of
getting
to
where
we
are
with
these
appointments.
These
are
appointments
for
the
Board
of
Commissioners
for
the
Minneapolis
public
housing
authority.
It's
a
board
of
nine
members.
There
are
four
seats
that
were
up
for
consideration
for
new
appointees
due
to
expiration
and
one
resignation.
AF
We
just
followed
kind
of
a
standard
process
that
we
use
for
advisory
boards
and
commissions
of
other
advisory
boards
and
commissions.
There
were
I,
think
seven
applications
in
total,
and
so
an
interview
panel,
including
myself,
Council
representatives
and
the
mayor's
office
interviewed
the
remaining
app
or
the
applicants.
There
were
four
that
Rose
to
the
top,
with
their
relevant
experience
and
background
with
housing
and
so
of
the
seats
to
be
filled.
There
are
two
mayoral
appointments
and
two
Council
appointments.
AF
The
mayor's
office
is
appointing
elfrik,
Port
housing
director
within
cped
and
Gene
Harris,
who
has
some
professional
background
she's
also
a
resident
of
Hamilton,
Manor
I
believe
public
housing
and
then
the
two
council,
member
or
Council
appointees,
that
Rose
to
the
top
out
of
that
process
were
Alyssa
Erickson.
Who
is
a
former
mpha
staff
member
now
works
for
Hennepin,
County
and
maderia
Arredondo,
who
has
Decades
of
experience
working
with
public
housing
and
addressing
safety
concerns
in
particular,
so
happy
to
address
any
other
questions,
but
just
want
to
be
brief.
Happy
to
councilmember
Osmond.
K
Thank
you
was
there
any
applicant
from
the
residence
in
in
I
know,
there's
seats
designated
for
for
the
residents
of
mpha.
AF
That's
correct
of
the
nine
seats
on
the
board.
There
are
two
that
are
designated
that
must
be
filled
by
a
public
housing
resident,
one
is
designated
for
a
high-rise,
a
resident
and
one
for
in
a
family
unit.
Those
two
seats
are
are
filled
and
are
continuing
and
we're
not
up
for
Renewal
or
open
at
this
point,
but
just
to
reiterate,
one
of
the
mayoral
appointments
is
a
public
housing
resident.
So
if,
if
these
appointments
are
approved,
then
there
would
be
a
total
of
three
on
the
board.
D
Go
ahead,
thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
So
in
understanding
the
interview
process,
it
sounds
like
like
staff
from
from
cped
mayor's
office,
and
you
said
one
other
person.
There
was
a
list
that
you
went
through
of
interviewed.
AF
Applicants
palsy
aid
from
council
member
Goodman's
office
as
chair
of
the
biz
committee,
sat
on
that
title
as
well.
Wonderful,
thank.
A
Kind
of
like
what
happened
with
the
Planning
Commission
too,
we
didn't
want
them
to
have
to
come
down.
We
didn't
know
about
the
snowstorm
either
four
years,
and
these
are
I
just
want
to
make
three-year
terms.
AF
Three
I
believe
chair,
Goodman
are
three
are
terms.
One
I
believe
is
filling
out
the
remainder
of
an
unexpired
term,
so
okay
would
only
be
in
that
role
for
one
the
final
year
of
that
term.
Okay,.
A
Great
I'll
go
ahead
and
move
approval
of
the
staff
recommendation
and
if
there
are
not
any
further
comments
or.
A
A
A
Okay,
great
seeing
no
further
business
before
us
and
without
objection
I
will
consider
the
meeting
adjourned.
Please
drive
boss
bike
walk
safely
as
you
head
home
tonight,.