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Description
On August 27, 2020, Public Works held a virtual Open House to share information about the Whittier/Lyndale bikeway project which includes portions of 1st Avenue S, 28th Street, and Blaisdell Avenue S. Staff presented on the draft project layout and held a question and answer section from attendees.
A
B
B
B
B
B
So
before
we
get
into
the
topic
of
discussion
for
today,
which
is
a
transportation
project,
we
want
to
just
take
a
moment
to
acknowledge
everything.
That's
going
on
in
minneapolis
in
our
state
in
our
country
and
to
kind
of
help
frame
that
I've
posted
we've
posted
some
texts
from
the
recent
passage
by
city
council
declaring
racism
as
a
public
health
emergency
and
just
noted
a
couple
of
the
statements
in
that
document.
That
was
approved
a
few
weeks
back
and
we
know
there
are
so
many
emergencies
happening
right
now.
B
The
cobia
19
pandemic,
which
we
know
is
disproportionately
affecting
our
bipod
communities,
the
murder
of
george
floyd
and
subsequent
uprisings,
both
of
which
happen
in
our
streets,
the
increase
of
violence.
That's
happened
this
summer,
as
well
as
the
increase
in
people
experiencing
homelessness
in
our
city.
B
B
First,
to
just
acknowledge
the
interconnectivity
of
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
with
the
people
who
do
live
in
minneapolis
and
many
of
us
working
on
this
project
do
live
here,
have
family
here
as
well,
and
we
also
just
want
to
note
that
we
understand
that
for
many
people,
transportation
is
not
a
top
priority
right
now
and
we
just
want
to
pause
and
acknowledge
everything.
That's
happening
in
our
city
and
just
sort
of
take
a
step
back
before
we
get
into
the
focus
of
today's
conversation.
B
So
I'm
gonna
pass
over
to
abdullahi
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
project
as
well
as
some
of
the
other
things
going
on
in
our
city
and
how
they
relate
to
one.
B
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
mike,
so
to
continue
this
where
mike
left
off
the
presentation.
This
is
a
project
that
is
focused
on
safety
and
and
also
public
health,
but
we
because
of
the
things
that
might
just
list
it
and
the
things
that
you
are
all
experiencing
this
year.
Safety
has
different
connotations
to
different
communities
in
our
city,
so
I'd
also
like
to
to
acknowledge
the
tremendous
human
suffering
that
is
happening
in
our
city
and
including
the
murder
of
george
floyd
and
the
social
uprising.
B
Events
that
followed,
as
well
as
the
events
that
were
just
happening
last
night.
So
this
is
an
ongoing
event
and
and
when
we
say
street
safety,
we
would
like
to
acknowledge
what
that
means
for
certain
communities
in
our
city
and-
and
we
just
would
like
to
cognizant
about
that-
it's
specifically
trying
to
make
our
streets
safer
for
all
members
of
our
community,
specifically
black
indigenous
and
people
of
color
in
the
city.
B
With
that
I
will
get
to
the
to
the
presentation.
So
please
go
to
the
next
slide.
So
I-
and
this
speaks
to
the-
why
we're
here
today-
and
we
are
here
today-
so
we
can
give
you
an
update
on
where
we
are
on
on
the
project
and
also
discuss
some
of
the
concepts
that
we
have
developed
so
far
and
then
finally
have
some
space
for
questions
and
answers,
and
also
to
capture
your
feedback
next
slide,
please.
B
So
what
are
the
goals
of
the
project?
This
project
is
focusing
on
the
street
safety
one.
Second,
one
of
the
most
important
safety
goals
of
the
project
is
improving
traffic
safety
by
reducing
vehicular
speeds.
This
is
particularly
important
because
some
of
the
segments
along
the
project
corridor
are
kind
of
identified
as
high
injury
streets
in
the
city's
vision
zero
program,
so
that
it's
the
safety
and
reduction
of
speed
is
our
priority
or
the
that
mo
the
number
one
goal
of
the
project.
B
The
another
goal
of
the
project
is
to
enhance
the
predictability
of
the
street
for
all
uses
by
having
a
dedicated
and
protected
spaces
for
bicycles
and
motorists,
as
well
as
pedestrians.
So
every
user
knows
where
they
are
supposed
to
be,
and
then
another
goal
of
the
project
is
to
support
existing
and
future
bicycle
demand,
demand
by
providing
a
major
north-south
bicycle
connection
that
is
comfortable,
direct
and
safe,
and
then
another
goal
of
the
project
was
the
fourth
goal
of
the
project
is
to
improve
the
city's
bicycle
network
connectivity.
B
This
speaks
to
the
schedule
of
the
of
the
project
and
where
we
are
right
now,
so
we
started
conducting
our
individual
project
engagement,
initial
project
engagement
in
the
first
couple
months
of
the
year,
then
using
the
feedback
and
what
we
have
heard
from
the
community.
We
started
developing
our
engagement.
B
We
started
developing
our
initial
concepts
last
spring
or
the
spring
of
this
year
and
now
throughout
the
rest
of
2020,
we
will
be
conducting
additional
engagement
events,
so
we
can
hear
people's
reactions
and
thoughts
on
the
concepts
and
designs
that
we
are
sharing
and
then
so.
We
can
also
make
any
necessary
refinements
and
then
in
the
upcoming
winter
of
this
year,
as
well
as
the
first
couple
months
of
next
year.
B
Next,
please,
this
slightly
speaks
to
the
safety.
The
core
project
goal
that
I
spoke
to,
which
is
that
and
the
map
on
the
right
shows
some
street
segments
in
the
in
the
project
that
are
currently
identified
as
a
fission,
zero
streets,
those
are
first
avenue
south,
and
then
there
are
some
segments
of
the
the
segment
of
28th
street
and
then
blizzard
avenue
south.
B
All
those
streets
are
within
the
project
corridor
and
they
have
been
identified
as
high
injury
streets
and-
and
so
we
would
like
to
we
wanted
to
to
identify
that,
and
then
the
map
on
the
left
shows
some
of
the
places
along
the
project,
corridor
or
or
project
routes
that
have
been
studied
that
had
higher
speed
in
in
in
those
areas.
So
those
are
they
they.
Basically,
these
speak
to
the
particles
that
we
just
discussed
and
then
the
next
slide.
B
A
And
while
what
we
were
asking,
so
the
questions
that
we
were
posing
to
residents
and
attendees
that
we
have
been
engaging
with
were
about
the
type
of
of
the
where
the
project
should
be
as
well
as
well
as
what
the
project
design
should
look
like,
and
also
some
of
the
existing
conditions
that
people
have
experienced
and
wanted
to
share.
We
attended
or
interacted
with
about
100
residents
and
business
owners
in
four
different
neighborhoods.
A
Those
are
stevens
square,
whittier
lindell
as
well
as
kingfield,
so
those
were
in-person
pre-covered,
and
we
have
also
designed
online
survey
an
online
mapping
tool
where
people
were
able
to
submit
their
questions
and
comments
about
along
the
project
corridor
at
a
specific
project
locations.
So
that
is
some
of
the
events
that
we
have
attended
on.
What
we,
the
information
that
we
gathered
and
then
the
next
slide
is
next
yeah.
The
this
slightly
speaks
to
some
of
the
high
points
that
we
we
have
heard
and
the
that
we
have
heard
from
people.
A
We
heard
that
there
was
a
strong
desire
for
people
to
have
a
direct,
safe
route
and
reduced
vehicle
speeds.
We
have
also
when
we
asked
about
the
type
of
of
of
bikeway.
The
opinions
were
were
a
little
bit
mixed.
We
heard
two-way
bikeway
along
first
avenue
south,
but
we
also
heard
two-way
parkway
along
blizzdel
avenue
south
another
thing
that
we
heard
was
the
existing
confusion
and
and
on
the
segment
of
first
avenue
south
that
is
currently
two-way.
A
A
Another
thing
that
we
heard
was
people
that
do
not
typically
bike
wanted
to
see
their
needs
reflected
in
this
in
this
project
and
then
another
common
occurrence
or
feedback
that
we
heard
was
there
were
obstructions
on
the
backlink
currently
in
the
form
of
people
that
were
parking
on
the
back
lane.
So
there
was
a
desire
to
prevent
that
with
the
new
backway
design
and
then
another.
A
A
Next
slide,
please,
this
is
light
speaks
to.
So
this
is
the
the
kind
of
an
introductory
to
what
we
are
proposing
as
the
new
bikeway
facility,
the
the
design
that
we
are
proposing.
So
we
are
proposing
two-way
bikeway
on
first
avenue
south
on
the
north
end
of
the
project,
so
that
is
from
15th
avenue
to
28th
history.
That
segment
of
28
first
avenue
south,
is
scheduled
for
full
reconstruction
within
the
next
five
years.
A
So
the
but
protected
backward
facility
that
we
are
proposing
is
a
bollard,
protected,
bikeway
and
then
the
bikeway
jogs
into
blazedale
along
28th
street,
and
then
that
would
be
carb
separated,
bikeway
or
car
protected
bikeway
and
the
other
segment
of
the
bikeway
would
would
would
stay
on
blaisdell
from
28th
all
the
way
to
40th
street
with
those
bikeway
types
and
design
treatment.
One.
A
I
would
like
to
get
to
one
of
them,
like
might
be
high
level
reason
that
we
got
to
that
decision,
which
was
kind
of
prioritize
balance
in
some
of
the
existing
needs
and
and
available
opportunities
along
the
project
corridor,
and
also
where
the
existing
trade-offs
were.
What
the
level
of
existing
trade-offs
were
the
project
also
besides
the
protected
bikeway.
A
Great
thanks
azla,
so
I'm
gonna
go
through
some
more
of
the
design
elements
in
detail
that
are
proposed
as
part
of
this
project.
So
the
first
slide
that
we
have
up
here
is
just
showing
the
two
types
of
bikeways
that
are
proposed
on
the
left.
We
have
the
curb
separated
bikeway
that
would
go
on
blaisdell
avenue
and
28th
street
and
on
the
right
is
the
ballard
separated
bikeway.
A
That
would
go
on
first
avenue
and
abdullahi
mentioned
this
already,
but
I
just
want
to
reiterate,
because
we've
already
gotten
some
comments
asking
why
the
difference
between
first
avenue
and
28th
street
and
blazedale
and
again
the
reason
for
the
ballard
protected
bikeway
on
first
avenue,
is
due
to
the
upcoming
reconstruction
project.
A
That's
planned
in
a
couple
phases
between
grant
street
and
lake
street
on
first
ave,
and
so
when
that
reconstruction
project
comes
through,
it
will
include
all
new
sidewalk
pavement
curb
and
gutter
and
can
also
include
an
off
street
bikeway
like
what
we
have
over
on
lindale
avenue
kind
of
by
the
walker.
A
But
because
we
have
that
larger
investment
happening
in
the
next
few
years.
We
didn't
want
to
go
in
and
make
a
costly
investment
with
a
curb-separated
bikeway
now
just
for
that
work
to
be
ripped
up
in
a
few
years
down
the
line.
So
hopefully
that
can
answer
some
of
the
questions
or
comments
we've
received
and
if
there
are
other
similar
questions
or
concerns
or
that
people
have
about
the
difference
in
the
ballard
versus
the
curb
protected
bikeway,
we
can
certainly
look
to
address
those
when
we
get
to
the
q.
A
next
slide.
A
A
So,
in
addition
to
the
projected
bikeway
elements,
we
also
are
looking
at
making
crossing
improvements
for
pedestrians
and
similar
to
the
bikeway
improvements.
The
sections
that
would
be
on
28th
and
blaisdale
we'd
be
looking
at
making
improvements
with
concrete
so
like
what
we're
seeing
on
the
left,
a
pedestrian
median
island
and
then
for
the
section
on
first
avenue,
we'd
be
looking
at
quick,
build
types
of
treatments
like
what
we
have
on
the
right
with
bollards
and
other
quick
build
elements
next
slide.
A
Please
we've
also
got
some
questions
about
the
route
in
particular.
Why
do
we
have?
You
know
a
part
of
the
route
on
first
avenue
and
a
part
of
the
route
on
blaisdell
and
there's
a
few
different
reasons
and
they're
kind
of
illustrated
on
on
the
slides
here,
but
I'm
going
to
go
into
them
in
a
little
bit
more
detail.
A
So
the
first
is
we're
looking
to
address
our
high
injury
streets.
So
portions
of
first
and
portions
of
blaisdell
are
high
injury
streets
which
mean
they
have
a
disproportionately
high
number
of
collisions,
particularly
collisions
that
result
in
severe
injury
or
fatality,
and
so
public
works.
We've
really
been
transitioning.
A
Our
mission
for
a
long
time,
our
focus
was
on
improving
mobility
for
people
driving
reducing
congestion
and
in
the
past
few
years,
through
the
adoption
of
our
vision,
zero
program,
we've
really
shifted
towards
a
focus
on
safety,
for
people
using
our
streets
and
as
part
of
that,
we've
identified
high
injury
streets
like
portions
of
first
ave
and
blaisdale,
and
looking
at
making
safety
improvements
on
those
streets
within
the
next
couple
years,
and
so
this
project
would
allow
us
to
make
safety
improvements,
not
just
to
benefit
people
biking,
but
also
people
walking
and
driving,
so
that
they
can
travel
more
safely
through
our
city.
A
The
next
item
or
the
next
reason.
Why
is
sorry
if
we
can
stay
on
that
slide,
is
using
the
existing
space
that
we
have
available.
So
on
first
avenue
we
have
some.
We
have
a
lightly
used,
southbound
lane
on
first
half
between
franklin
and
28th,
which
can
be
pretty
easily
repurposed
with
minimal
trade-off
for
bikeway
space
and
then
on
blaseo.
A
We
already
have
a
lot
of
additional
space
set
aside
for
bikes
and
so
again
it's
it's
all
about
that
kind
of
balance
between
the
various
transportation
needs
within
our
city,
and
this
route
allows
us
to
minimize
trade-offs
and
to
allow
us
to
have
this
project
go
forward
more
quickly
and
because
we
do
have
that
space
set
aside.
It
allows
us
to
build
a
wider
bikeway
so,
along
most
of
the
corridor,
we're
looking
at
at
least
12
feet
of
space
for
bikes.
A
So
not
only
does
that
provide
more
space
for
people
biking,
people
can
ride
side
by
side.
It
also
makes
it
easier
to
maintain
our
bikeways
in
the
winter
it's
easier
to
get
a
plow
into
a
wider
bikeway,
rather
than
a
a
narrow
run.
A
So
that's
another
benefit
of
this
route
and
then,
lastly,
connectivity
in
our
bikeway
network.
So
that
was
one
of
the
goals
that
abdullahi
mentioned
earlier
and
at
the
northern
end
of
the
project,
this
bikeway
would
be
connecting
into
a
project
that's
being
built
this
year
on
first
avenue
and
grain
street,
where
the
construction
has
just
started
and
then
at
the
southern
end,
this
this
alignment
would
be
closer
to
our
proposed
greenway
or
bike
boulevard
along
pleasant
avenue.
A
So
we
feel
like
this
gives
us
a
little
bit
better
bike
connectivity
for
people
continuing
north
or
south
along
this
route.
Next
slide,
please
so
the
the
next
few
slides
are
going
to
be
mostly
just
pictures
and
images.
So
for
each
section
we've
got
an
image
of
the
existing
conditions
on
the
top
and
then
on.
The
bottom
is
an
image
of
what
the
proposed
project
would
look
like
just
a
note
about
the
proposed
project
that
these
are
images
taken
from
other
cities.
So
there
might
be
some
minor
details.
A
You
know
the
the
bike
lane
might
be
a
little
wider
or
a
little
narrower
narrower
than
what
we're
proposing,
but
we
feel,
like
these
images,
do
a
good
job
of
sort
of
providing
the
the
context
and
they're
more
illustrative
than
some
of
the
graphics
that
we
have
available.
So
just
a
note,
if
you
do
want
to
really
get
into
the
weeds
all
the
information
on
widths
for
vehicle
lanes
parking
bikeways,
that's
all
available
on
our
website
in
the
initial
concept.
A
So
just
a
quick
note
there.
So
for
the
first
section
on
first
half
from
franklin
to
15th,
we
are
looking
at
a
bikeway
protected
by
parked
vehicles.
We
really
heard
loud
and
clear
from
our
initial
engagement
that
parking
was
really
important
to
residents
in
this
area
and
that
matches
with
the
data
that
we
have
as
well.
A
One
thing
that
this
would
be
doing
that
the
proposed
project
would
be
doing
would
be
to
repurpose
a
vehicle
lane
for
space
for
bikes
and
what
we
found
from
the
the
data
that
we
have
here
is
that
we
had
almost
two-thirds
of
vehicles
on
this
street
traveling
above
the
speed
limit,
and
so
part
of
that
is
because
you
just
have
this,
this
really
wide
expanse
and
it's
the
only
part
of
franklin
in
south
minneapolis
that
has
two
northbound
vehicle
lanes
right
now,
so
by
repurposing,
one
of
those
lanes
and
and
moving
that
to
space
for
bikes.
A
We
think
we're
gonna,
see
much
better
safety
outcomes
and
less
speeding.
So
next
slide,
please,
and
so
I'm
just
gonna
focus
on
a
few
of
the
intersections.
It's
a
very
long
project.
So
we
don't
have
time
to
get
through
every
single
one.
But
what
we
can
see
here
at
franklin
first
on
the
left,
is
the
the
proposed
design
and
then
on.
The
right
is
kind
of
another
illustrative
example.
A
So
what
we'd
be
doing
here,
in
addition
to
adding
the
the
two-way
bikeway
on
the
left
side
of
the
street
or
the
west
side
of
the
street
we'd,
also
be
shortening
pedestrian
exposure
to
vehicles
on
franklin.
A
So
a
really
good
benefit
for
people
crossing
the
street
here
and
you
can
kind
of
see
what
that
would
look
like
in
the
photo
on
the
right
next
slide.
Please
so
moving
south
first
avenue
from
franklin
to
28th
again.
This
is
currently
a
two-way
section
for
vehicles.
A
It's
the
only
part
of
first
avenue
that
is
two-way
and
so
again
with
the
goal
of
trying
to
make
the
experience
for
for
folks
a
little
bit
more
consistent
and
based
on
what
we
heard
from
users
during
our
initial
round
of
engagement,
we'd
be
looking
at
converting
this
space
into
one
way
only
for
vehicles
and
then
repurposing
the
southbound
lane.
That's
currently
there
to
a
two-way
bikeway
again
parking
would
be
maintained.
Again.
We
heard
very
similar
things
in
in
on
this
part
of
the
route
in
whittier.
A
That
parking
was
really
important
for
folks.
So
we
tried
to
be
true
to
those
comments
and
next
slide.
Please
and
then
just
an
example
of
some
of
the
designs
that
are
proposed
at
intersections.
This
is
first
avenue
and
26th
street,
so
an
intersection
with
a
one-way
bikeway
on
26..
A
So
in
addition
to
the
crossing
improvements
made
with
bollards-
and
you
can
kind
of
see
an
example
of
what
that
looks
like
from
another
city
on
the
right,
we're
also
looking
at
adding
elements
of
a
protected
intersection
here
for
bike
travel
and
also
looking
at
the
opportunity
to
provide
some
element
of
signal
protection
and
again
just
because
we've
got
a
lot
of
bollards
on
the
screen
here.
A
I
just
want
to
reiterate
the
reason
for
the
the
ballards
in
this
section
is
because
of
the
upcoming
reconstruction
project,
which,
in
this
section
is
proposed
in
2023
next
slide.
A
Please
so
for
the
short
stretch
on
28th
street,
as
you
can.
B
See
from
from
the
images
here,
the
cross
section
would
be
pretty
similar
to
what
we
see
today.
We
would
still
be
maintaining
parking
on
the
north
side
of
the
street
currently
because
of
the
the
lake
street
reconstruction.
For
folks
who
are
familiar
with
the
section
of
28th
you'll
know
that
parking
has
been
temporarily
removed
to
accommodate
a
bus
lane,
but
once
lake
street
reconstruction
is
done,
we
would
go
back
to
what
we
have
here,
which
is
parking.
A
couple
lanes
of
traffic.
A
We
will
be
narrowing
our
vehicle
lanes
again
to
reduce
speeding
and
then
converting
the
existing
one-way
ballard
protected
bikeway
to
a
two-way,
curb,
protected
bikeway
next
slide,
please,
and
here
we're
showing
blaisdell
and
28th.
So
this
is
one
of
the
locations
where
the
bikeway
would
be
turning
90
degrees,
and
we
can
see
here
some
of
the
concrete
elements
that
will
both
serve
as
protection
for
people.
Biking.
A
Next
slide,
and
so
just
a
couple
more
segments
to
go,
we
do
have
a
short
segment
on
blaisdale
between
28th
and
31st,
where
there
are
currently
two
lanes
of
traffic.
That
will
largely
remain
the
same
again,
we'll
be
looking
at
opportunities
to
narrow
lane
with,
but
keeping
the
two
lanes
of
traffic,
largely
keeping
parking
in
place.
A
A
B
28Th
and
29th
south
of
29th
from
29th
to
31st
parking
would
largely
remain
as
it
is
today
next
slide,
and
so
at
the
intersection
of
blaisdell
and
lake
is
the
one
location
where
we're
dealing
with
high
volume,
bus
traffic,
and
so
what
we're
proposing
here
is
a
a
raised
bikeway
where
the
bikeway,
sidewalk
and
bus
stop.
A
Would
all
be
at
the
same
level,
and
it
would
end
up
looking
pretty
similar
to
what's
at
lindale
and
groveland
avenue,
which
is
the
photo
on
the
right
so
for
folks
who
want
something
a
little
more
tactile
or
be
able
to
go
check
that
out.
That's
a
pretty
good
representation
of
what
we're
proposing
here.
A
So,
in
addition
to
the
improvements
for
bikes
and
accommodating
and
working
with
metro
transit
on
bus
access,
we'd
also
be
shorty.
Shortening
the
crossing
distance
for
pedestrians
next
slide.
Please.
A
And
so
our
southernmost
section
blaisdell
currently
has
a
baller
protected,
one-way
bikeway
on
the
right
side
or
the
west
side
of
the
street
we'd
be
looking
at
largely
maintaining
parking
here,
having
a
single
southbound
vehicle
lane
and
then
upgrading
our
bikeway
from
a
one-way
ball,
protected
bikeway
to
a
two-way,
curb,
protected,
bikeway
and
next
slide.
Please.
A
And
then
for
our
signalized
intersections
in
this
section,
35th
street
36th
street
and
38th,
the
design's.
B
All
pretty
similar,
where
we'd
be
looking
at
adding
a
dedicated
right
turn
lane
and
again
looking
for
opportunities
to
provide
signal
protection
between
people,
making
that
southbound
right
turn
across
the
bikeway
and
people
biking
to
provide
not
just
separation
with
space,
but
also
separation
and
time,
and
then
on
the
south
side,
shortening
crossings
for
pedestrians,
and
so
if
we
can
go
to
the
last
slide
I'll
just
keep
this
up
here.
For
for
a
moment.
A
There
is
an
online
survey
and
wiki
mapping
tool
on
the
project
website,
which
is
shown
here.
We
know
it's
difficult
during
covid
when
we're
not
able
to
do
in-person
events
to
provide
feedback,
so
we're
looking
to
provide
other
opportunities
as
well
via
phone
or
text
as
well
as
email.
A
So,
if
you
know,
people
who
weren't
able
to
attend
tonight's
meeting
they're
certainly
welcome
to
call
text
or
email
the
information
on
the
screen
and
then,
if
they
have
a
comment
to
submit,
we
can
take
that
if
they
have
questions
and
want
to
discuss,
we
can
certainly
discuss
via
those
those
avenues.
A
So
that
concludes
the
presentation
part
of
tonight.
I
know
we've
been
getting
some
questions
coming
in
and
I
think
abdullah
he's.
C
Going
to
be
moderating
the
chat
and
then
myself
and
and
casey
atkins
from
tool
are
going
to
be
responding
to
questions.
So
thanks
for
submitting
questions,
if
you
have
additional,
you
can
continue
to
submit
those
during
the
q
a
through
the
chat
box
on,
I
believe,
the
right
side
of
your
screen.
C
B
On
this
a
little
bit
previously,
some
of
the
the
trade-offs
and
the
balances
that
that
we
had
one
thing
that
we
didn't
talk
about
to
just
sort
of
add
a
little
bit
more
detail.
And
the
answer
to
this
question
is
the
the
streets
kind
of
further
south
on
first
avenue
and
further
north
on
blaisdell.
B
So
if
we
once
you
get
south
of
of
31st
street
on
first
avenue,
the
street
starts
to
narrow
a
lot
and
it
would
just
not
provide
us
as
much
space
for
a
bikeway
we'd
be
looking
at.
You
know
something
closer
to
eight
feet
rather
than
the
12
feet
that
we
have
on
most
of
the
route
that
we
have
today.
So
again,
that
was
one
of
the.
A
Considerations
that
we
made
and
then
as
you
go
up
blaisdale
and
then
up
into
lasalle
you,
you
have
some
other
tradeoffs
with
again
high
parking
demand,
congestion
and
then
there's
also
not
a
connection
back
to
our
protected
bikeway
network.
So
again
thinking
about
the
network
connectivity
that
was
part
of
the
goal
of
this
project.
So
you
know
I
think,
we've
touched
on
this
quite
a
bit,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
I
have
a
whole
lot
to
add.
But
I'd
say
just
to
sort
of
summarize.
A
A
Thanks
mike,
the
next
question
is,
is
also
for
you.
Blissdell
is
residential
street
if
this
project
hopes
to
reduce
vehicle,
speeding
and
improve
pedestrian
safety,
why
doesn't
this
design
address
the
double
threat
crossing
situation?
That
threat
threatens
people
walking
between
downtown
and
first
street.
B
Maybe
further
north
than
our
that
our
project
currently
includes,
I
will
just
say
that
abdullahi
and
I
are
actually
also
working
on
a
project
with
the
whittier
elementary
school
to
improve
crossing
safety
at
blaisdell
on
25th.
B
But
more
generally,
you
know,
I
think
we
we're
first
to
make
decisions
about.
A
Where
to
where
to
include
projects-
and
we
do
that
through
our
20-year
streets
funding
plan,
which
was
passed
by
council,
which
includes
a
a
racial
economic
equity
lens,
as
well
as
looking
at
street
users
to
help
prioritize
our
goals.
And
so
you
know,
as
part
of
this
project.
Portions
north
of
blaisdell
aren't
included
for
some
of
the
reasons
that
we
talked
about
previously.
And
we
are
looking
to
get
to
particularly
the
the
portions
of
blaisdell
that
we're
not
able
to
get
to
here
that
are
on
the
high
injury
network.
A
C
Yeah,
though,
so
we
did
get
comments
about
vehicles
blocking
blocking
the
bikeway
and
something
that,
on
the
curb
protected
section,
we
are
addressing
with
the
implement
implementation
of
curbs
for
the
bollard.
B
Obviously
we
would
have
bollards
there
and
you
know
we're
looking
at
finding
kind
of
the
appropriate
spacing
distance
to
minimize
or
discourage,
or
you
know,
eliminate
vehicles
from
blocking
those
bikeways
and
kcl
kind
of
put
you
on
the
spot.
I'm
not
sure
if
tool
has
any
thoughts
or
best
practices
on
bollard
spacing
to
discourage
that
kind
of
behavior
yeah
a
lot
of
the
national.
A
It
isn't
a
perfect
and
magic
answer,
but
if
we're
able
to
get
a
few
more
ballers
in
there,
then
hopefully
we'll
deter
more
people
from
getting
in
there
and
then,
as
more
bicyclists
use
the
route
as
well.
Motorists
will
definitely
identify
hey.
This
is
not
a
space
I
am
supposed
to
be
so
and
that'll
grow
as
the
bike
volumes
also
grow
once
the
route
is
in
place.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Both
this
next
question
is
also,
I
believe,
for
mike
the
first
part
of
his
comment.
I
think
this
is
a
good
step
in
the
right
direction.
Thanks
well,
thank
you.
If,
if
I'm
understanding
correctly
this,
the
the
intention
is
to
upgrade
the
route
to
a
car
separated
bikeway
after
the
street
after
the
street
is
reconstructed
in
few
years,
can
this
be
stated.
B
Yeah
good
question,
so
you
know,
as
we
go
through
with
street
reconstructions,
those
have
their
own
engagement
processes,
those
have
their
own
design
processes.
So
we
we
wouldn't
necessarily
be
able
to
say
with
100
certainty
that
this
street
would
be
upgraded
with.
That
being
said,
the
street
is
identified.
First
avenue
is
identified
in
our
draft
transportation
action
plan
as
a
bikeway
as
part
of
our
aaa
network
as
a
protected
bikeway,
and
you
know
the
idea
would
be
kind
of
using
these
couple
years.
A
As
far
as
the
timing
of
those
reconstructions,
you
know,
we
feel
pretty
confident
that
the
street
will
be
reconstructed
soon
with
covet
and
impacts
on
the
city
budget.
We're
still
waiting
to
see
how
that
will
will
shake
out,
but
at
this
point
we're
looking
at
the
first
phase
of
that
reconstruction
happening
in
2023
and
then
the
second
phase
happening
in
2025.
A
A
A
So
as
far
as
safety
upgrades,
those
are
two
that
we've
used
elsewhere
and
we've
seen
used
effectively
in
other
parts
of
the
country
to
improve
safety.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
casey
just
to
see,
if
you
have
anything
to
to
add
here,
the
only
other
thing
I
would
add
is
with
the
presence
of
the
vertical
curve,
as
well
as
those
ballers
along
the
roadway.
That's
going.
C
To
add
vertical
friction
along
the
roadway
that
will
also
naturally
slow
people
down
so
you'll
notice.
If
you
drive
down
a
street,
that's
got
a
lot
of
street
trees
or
even
just
parked
vehicles
that
can
also
work
as
vertical
friction
and
people
tend
to
drive
a
lot
slower
in
that
regard,
other
than
that
might
cover
all
the
other
options
that
we're
planning
to
implement
right
now,.
C
B
So
we
we
did
look
at
that
option
in
working
with
some
of
our
public
works
colleagues
to
try
and
identify
kind
of
what
that
would
mean
from
a
holistic
transportation
standpoint.
B
We
did
look
at
it,
it
was
considered
and-
and
just
eventually
we
went
with
the
decision
to
to
go
with
the
route
that's
proposed
in
addition
to
to
the
the
issues
on
on
blaisdell,
just
as
far
as
kind
of
how
we're
going
to
allocate
space
there-
and
I
think
I
mentioned
this
earlier-
but
you
know,
network
connectivity
is-
was
a
really
important
one
for
this
project
and
just
the.
A
The
northern
part
of
our
network,
as
is
being
constructed
right
now,
is
on
first
avenue,
and
so
we
are
looking
at
ways
to
connect
up
with
first
avenue,
and
so
you
know
whether
you
you
make
that
jog
further
north.
You
know
at
15th
street,
where
you
could
then
go
all
the
way
down.
Blaisdell
you're
you're
still
making
a
a
jog
in
one
way
or
the
other.
So.
C
If
we,
if
we
were
going
to
use
blaisdell
they're,
you
know,
essentially,
they
just
sort
of
would
have
have
to
have
been
a
jog
at
some
point
and
we
felt
like,
with
the
other
factors
in
the
project
the
space
available
on
first
the
space
available
on
28th.
It
just
made
sense
to
do
it.
C
There
thank
you
mike.
This
question
is,
I
believe,
for
you,
but
casey,
please
chime
in
if
you
feel
like
you,
have
something
to
add
on
blaisdell.
B
Intersection
on
blizzard
intersections
that
will
lose
parking
lanes.
Very
fast
traffic
will
come
very
close
to
the
curb
and
residences.
I
worry.
This
will
have
funnel
and
effect
forcing
cars
to
slightly
turn
twice
while
going
through
the
intersections
and
bring
cars
dangerously
close
to
the
sidewalk,
even
if
just
for
a
small
portion
I
or
that
might
be
just
a
comment.
A
Any
anything
that
you
both
like
any
of
you
would
like
to
say
sure,
so,
the
I
think
the
portion
that's
being
discussed
is
between
28th
and
29th,
where
we
mentioned
the
project's
proposing
to
remove
parking
that
land
use
on
on
the
side
where
parking
would
be
removed.
Is
it's
adjacent
to
the
whittier
clinic
and
right
now,
it's
just
adjacent
to
a
parking
lot.
A
So
we
know
that
there
are
some
people
who
certainly
walk
along
blaze,
though
there
and
it
may
be
a
little
bit
less
comfortable
in
the
future,
but
as
far
as
impacts
on
on
land
use.
We
think
those
are
gonna
be
pretty
minimal
and.
B
A
Not
as
part
of
this
project
right
now,
I
think
because
those
those
types
of
improvements
tend
to
be
involved
as
part
of
a
reconstruct
so
there's
potential.
We
could
see
something
like
that
as
part
of
the
first
avenue
reconstruction
that
happens
in
a
couple
years.
A
A
Yeah,
so
when
we're
talking
about
bollards,
we're
talking
about
plastic
flex,
posts
in
this
area,
26th
street
and
28th
street
are
pretty
good
examples
of
of
that
type
of
product.
What
we
have
started
doing
in
some
other
locations
and
what
we're
looking
at
doing
here
is
providing,
and
in
case
you
might
have
to
help
me
out
on
some
of
the
technical
terms.
But
I
think
it's
called
that
fg50.
A
It's
essentially
sort
of
a
series
of
ballers
that
are
very
closely
spaced
together
with
kind
of
a
a
base,
and
I
know
we've
installed
those
on
the:
u
of
m
bikeway
and
I
don't
know
casey
if
you
can
just
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
yeah.
So
these,
as
mike
mentioned,
they
are
very
closely
spaced
and
they're,
actually
on
a
little
plastic
base
that
screws
into
the
roadway
and
so
we've
actually.
C
Identified
locations
particularly
near
the
intersections
to
number
one
reduced
turning.
A
Speeds
as
people
are
making
those
turns,
but
also
just
to
really
clarify
that
this
is
the
bikeway
when
you're
in
that
location.
So
some
of
the
things
with
the
design
at
the
intersections,
when
we
could
we
bend
that
bike.
B
Way
out
in
order
to
give
people
good
good
sight
to
a
biker
crossing
the
roadway,
but
in
addition,
there'll
be
that
visual
cue
of
those
closely
spaced
flex
posts
that
says
hey.
This
is
an
intersection
here,
don't
invade
this
space
and
that'll
that'll,
hopefully
also
prevent
people
from
driving
in
the
bikeway
as
well,
because
in
some
instances
it
might
look
like
a
drive
lane
with
the
whip.
B
Thank
you,
casey
and
mike.
We
actually
got
a
couple
more
questions.
Next,
one
is
a
couple
of
times
during
the
presentation
you
have
mentioned
that
the
proposed
bikeway
is
wide.
I
think
it
is
much
too
narrow.
There
are
five
food
wide
sections
proposed.
Is
there
room
to
widen
the
bikeways
to
at
least
seven
to
eight
feet
wide
in
each
section
by
narrowing
the
buffer
and
reducing
travel
and
parking
lane
widths
either
of
you
can
can
answer
that
so
I'll
just
say
that
we
I
did
see
this
comment.
A
That
came
in
through
some
of
our
online
surveys
and
that
you
know
we
are
looking
at
opportunities
to
adjust
buffer
width,
in
particular
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
space
to
the
bikeway
casey.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
else
to
add
just
from
a
sort
of
a
technical
point,
just
to
sort
of
discuss
the
widths
yeah
one
of
the
things
when
we
first
started.
A
Looking
at
this
project
was
trying
to
see
if
there
might
be
opportunities
along
the
corridor
to
try
to
incorporate
some
green
infrastructure
or
trees
or
just
green
versus
having
everything
be
concrete
out
there.
So
that's
why
you're
seeing
some
of
those
wider
buffer
widths
when
it
came
to
reallocating
the
space
within
the
roadway
and
as
we
work
through
the
design
and
whether
whether
green
infrastructure
is
a
reality
depending
on
utilities
and
things
underneath
the
roadway?
Some
of
that
that
might
be
able
to
change
as
we
move
forward
into
final
design.
C
The
next
question
reads
this
I
currently
live
on
3500
blisdale
and
this
section
is
heavily
traveled
by
the
fire
department
and
ems
and
other
drivers
typically
pull
over
into
the
bike
lane,
but
car
protected
bikeway
will
eliminate
this
possibility.
Will
emergency
routes
change
or
prioritize
the
streets
of
a
play
style
mike?
C
So
we've
we've
had
some
initial
conversations
with
the
fire
department
and
we've
shared
this
design
with
with
the
assistant
chief
over
there
just
talking
about
access
to
and
from
their
station,
and
we
know
that
there's
a
couple
fire
stations
near
our
route,
one
at
15th
and
first
and
then
one
at
28th
and
blaisdell.
C
C
I
can
start
and
talk
more
locally
and
then
casey
if
you
want
to
kind
of
fill
in
kind
of
more
general
best
practices.
So.
B
One
of
the
the
benefits
of
the
two-way
wider
bikeway
is:
it
allows
our
maintenance
team
to
perform
winter
plowing
more
quickly
than
than
with
a
narrower,
one-way
bikeway.
So
if
the
bikeway
is
eight
feet
wide
or
more
or
I'm
sorry,
eight
and
a
half
feet
wide
or
more,
that
allows
us
to
use
a
pickup
truck
which
can
get
to
our
bikeways
faster.
If
it's
a
narrower
bikeway,
we
have
to
use
a
little
bobcat
and
that
has
to
be
kind
of
carried
around.
A
That
is
one
of
the
big
benefits
we
see
of
this
project,
particularly
on
first
avenue,
is
allowing
for
much
easier
and
safer
winter
riding
because
currently
on.
First,
you
have
a
striped-only
bike
lane
which
isn't
plowed
in
the
winter,
and
we
often
see
a
lot
of
snow
and
ice
build
up
there,
whereas
the
the
separated
bikeway
will
be
plowed
in
and
maintained
in
the
winter
and
casey.
I'm
not
sure
if
you
have
anything
to
add
on
a
kind
of
a
bigger.
A
B
My
bad,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Oh
we.
We
have
a
follow-up
question
to
one
of
the
questions
that
was
asked
before
so
the
question
I
was
asking
about
play
still
intersections,
loose
parking
lanes
and
there's
a
I'll
just
read
that
first
question,
because
it's
a
long
question.
A
A
A
Sure
yeah,
thank
you
for
for
clarifying
that
question.
So,
with
the
design
that
we
have,
it
does
include
some
amount
of
lateral
shift
at
these
intersections,
and
you
know,
in
addition
to
providing
space
for
bikes
and
space
for
right
turns
there.
A
I
will
just
note
that
at
these
locations
there
is
a
turning
lane,
that's
adjacent
to
the
curb
right
now,
so
we
will
see
some
changes
with
the
striping
compared
to
what's
out
there
today,
but
there
also
be
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
consistencies
with
what's
there
now
and
casey,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
have
anything
to
add
just
as
far
as
from
an
engineering
perspective
on
this
design
and
the
question
that
was
asked
yeah
next
to
the
through
motor
vehicle
travel
lane,
I
believe
that's
kind
of
more
where
you're
referring
to
something
to
note
is
that
in
the
city
there
are
restrictions
on
parking
near
the
intersection.
A
So,
even
though
there
might
not
be
a
designated
turn
there
today
or
even
if
there
is,
motorists
are
likely
using
that
space
to
make
that
turn
and
are
already
close
to
that
location,
as
mike
mentioned
having.
That
shift
will
really
encourage
people
to
slow
down
and
then
also
having
them
align
directly
across
directly
across
the
intersection,
as
we
can
helps
make
sure
that
they
stay
in
their
lane
and
know
where
they
should
be
it's.
A
So
the
operation
is
really
not
a
whole
lot
different
than
it
is
today
other
than
maybe
you
have
a
parked
vehicle
on
the
other
side
of
the
road.
But
even
then,
at
that
point,
that
vehicle
should
also
be
a
certain
distance
away
from
the
curb.
If
you
will
so
in
theory,
a
vehicle
might
be
able
to
turn
into
that
space.
So
hopefully
that
that
answers
your
question
there.
If
it's
regarding
the
other
side,
the
west
side
of
blade,
sale,
what
we're
implementing
there
are
those
what
we're
referring
to
as
those
protected
intersections.
A
So
that
would
be
the
concrete
curb
with
that
kind
of
concrete
little
median
island
that
you
see,
and
that
is
designed
specifically
to
slow
motorists
making
turns
down
and
then
what
it
also
does
is
it
allows
those
motors
to
make
their
turn.
They
can
look
and
see
not
only
people
biking,
but
also
people
walking
across
the
street
and
yield
also
with
their
trunk
a
bit
out
of
traffic,
so
they're
not
as
worried
about
being
rear,
ended
and
their
their
likelihood
of
yielding
to
both
bicyclists
and
pedestrians
will
increase.
A
Thank
you,
casey
and
mike
the
last
question
that
we
have
and
we
apologize.
We
haven't
if
we
missed
this
question
before,
if
one
of
the
goals
is
to
improve
bicycle
network
connectivity,
why
isn't
there
a
protected
connection
from
the
greenway
to
this
plant
protected
by
mike.
A
Mike
you're
muted,
thank
you
so
this
project
does.
It
is
proposing
a
connection
between
the
greenway
and
blaisdell
and
it
would
be
a
again
a
two-way,
protected
bikeway
on
the
south
side
of
29th
street.
A
We
know
that,
with
with
the
city,
we
just
recently
purchasing
the
kmart
site
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
planning
and
engagement
efforts
around
that
site
in
the
future,
and
so
again
this
is
kind
of
meant
to
be
something
that
can
be
implemented
quickly
and
then
in
the
next
year.
That
would
provide
a
connection
between
the
greenway
and
between
this
new
project
and
then,
as
the
city
increases
its
engagement
efforts
around
the
the
kmart
site.
You
know
that
connection
may.
A
Evolve,
I
believe
that
is
all
of
the
questions
that
we
received
so
far.
If
there
are
any
other
questions
that
you
think
about
after
this
event
or
after
you
can
send
those
to
us
to
the
project
website
like
any
any
any
final
com,
closing
comments
or
any
other
casey
as
well.
A
No
thanks
everyone
for
attending,
and
we
appreciate
the
questions
and
we've
brought
up
the
project
website
and
contact
information.
So
please
don't
be
shy
about
following
up.
If
you
have
additional
questions
or
comments
and
thanks
again
for
attending
thanks,
everyone
have
a
good.