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Description
Brandon Jones from the Minnesota Association of Children’s Mental Health joins the program to discuss mental health awareness.
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B
Absolutely
thank
you.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
here.
I
see,
The
Interpreter
just
showed
up
so
I'm
Brandon
Jones
I
am
originally
from
Saint.
Paul
born
and
raised.
I
grew
up,
unfortunately,
in
a
household
that
had
domestic
violence,
and
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
got
me
to
the
level
of
looking
at
mental
health
and
choosing
this
as
a
career.
I
went
to
the
University
of
Minnesota
for
undergraduate
studies
and
sociology,
and
then
I
got
two
master's
degrees
one's
in
community
psychology.
B
The
other
is
in
Psychotherapy
from
Adler
graduate
school
and
with
those
with
that
education
and
that
life
experience,
I,
went
in
and
practiced
mental
health
therapy
and
I
helped
communities
all
throughout
the
Twin.
Cities
metro
area
worked
a
lot
with
Youth
and
couples.
B
Those
are
my
two
primary
areas
and
did
a
lot
of
work,
but
in
2018,
I
made
a
change
from
doing
clinical
therapy
to
management
and
I've
been
working
within
Community
organization
ever
since
still
delivering
mental
health
programs,
but
just
not
myself
doing
the
clinical
work
and
then
just
on
a
personal
note,
I'm,
a
father
I
have
three
daughters
and
I'm
married
as
well,
and
I
I
like
to
try
to
keep
my
work
and
my
personal
life
separate.
But
sometimes
you
know
we
still
have
to
keep
those
mental
health
lenses
on
so
I.
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C
B
Absolutely
mental
health
includes
our
emotional,
our
psychological
and
our
social
well-being.
It
affects
how
we
think,
how
we
feel
and
how
we
Act
mental
health
is
a
part
of
our
everyday
life.
Every
time
we
do
things,
it
impacts
us
emotionally
and
oftentimes
people
don't
realize
until
you
know
something
impacts
them
in
a
negative
standpoint
that
their
mental
health
is
being
impacted.
It
also
impacts
throughout
the
lifespan.
So
such
things
that
can
happen
throughout
a
lifespan
trauma
a
lot
of
stress
that
we
have
in
our
day-to-day.
B
Even
abuse
or
adversity
can
all
Impact
our
mental
health
and
another
key
thing
about
mental
health.
Is
our
family
history.
We
don't
think
of
it
all
the
time,
but
the
family
history.
We
have
definitely
impacts
our
mental
and
emotional
well-being
and
for
some
mental
health
diagnosis,
it's
one
of
the
things
that
can
increase
the
probability
of
having
an
actual
mental
health
disorder.
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A
Can
you
help
our
listener
understand?
Why
is
it
so
important
to
talk
about
mental
health
and
and
and
then
help
people
to
understand
this
very,
very
in
our
community,
silent
topics?
Why
is
it
so
important
to
talk
about
it
and
also
to
help
people
understand
that
it
there
are
help
out
there,
Brandon
gapatology,
Village.
B
Absolutely
so
our
mental
health
is
very
important
because
it
affects
all
stages
of
our
life.
It
raises
the
awareness
of
like
critical
topics
that
shows
up
when,
like,
for
example,
people
not
feeling
alone
or
isolated
is
one
of
the
big
things,
and
it
is
a
silent
problem
in
many
communities
of
color,
and
you
know
I'm
not
surprised
to
hear
that
in
the
Hmong
Community,
it's
something
that's
still
being
understood
and
still
being
thought
about.
B
How
do
we
actually
address
it
because
there's
a
lot
of
shame
that
comes
with
mental
health
disorders
and
mental
health
diagnosis,
and
that
shame
could
give
you
a
bad
reputation
within
your
family
within
the
community.
People
might
not
want
to
associate
with
you
anymore
or
listen
to
you
or
you
might
lose
your
status
within
the
community
due
to
having
a
mental
health
Disorder.
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So
it's
important
that
we
continue
to
raise
awareness
around
the
the
understanding
of
mental
health
to
give
support
and
people
know
that
they're
not
alone,
and
that
there
there's
nothing
wrong
with
them
that
they're
still,
you
know,
people
they're
still
human
beings,
but
they
just
may
have.
They
may
need
a
little
bit
more
Assistance,
or
they
may
need
a
little
bit
more
support
due
to
the
mental
health
challenges
that
they
have.
B
So
we
need
to
begin
to
be
open
about
the
struggles
and
the
impacts
of
mental
health
to
help
reduce
the
stigma
that
takes
place
in
a
lot
of
different
communities,
and
one
thing
that
I
want
to
add
here
is
that
we
definitely
can
lean
on
our
culture
to
do
this.
A
lot
of
us
have
cultural
assets
within
our
communities
that
we
can
utilize
to
help
us
push
through
some
of
the
mental
health
challenges
that
show
up.
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C
A
Brand
of
in
in
some
community
that,
culturally
and
in
also
historically
a
lot
of
community
react
to
different
things
differently.
Why
do
you
think
it's
so
hard
to
talk
about
mental
health
in
in
some
communities?
I
I
know
that
in
the
Hmong
Community
you
talked
about
a
stigma
you
talked
about.
You
know
losing
status
in
the
community
to
you
as
a
professional.
Why
is
it
so
difficult
to
talk
about
mental
health
in
some
of
these
communities?
B
Yeah
I
think
the
reason
why
it's
very
difficult
in
some
communities
to
talk
about
mental
health
is
vulnerability.
Being
vulnerable
is
very
scary,
a
lot
of
times
when
we're
vulnerable
and
we're
struggling
with
things
we
may
feel
weak.
We
may
feel
like
we're
being
over
dramatic.
We
may
feel
like
we're
burning
other
people
with
our
own
problems
or
our
own
struggles,
and
we
don't
want
to
make
you
know
their
life
any
more
challenging
or
any
worse,
and
a
lot
of
people
end
up
suffering
in
silence
and
another
thing
about
stigma.
B
Is
this
idea
that
we
need
to
be
okay,
100
of
the
time?
And
that's
not
necessarily
true?
It's
okay,
not
to
be
okay,
it's
okay,
to
have
ups
and
downs
and
to
not
feel
well
and
to
share
that
with
other
people.
That
today
may
not
be
the
the
best
day
for
you
or
you
need
to
take
some
time
for
yourself
to
just
get.
You
know
readjusted,
and
sometimes
this
emotional
pain
that
people
feel
they
don't
want
to
share
with
other
other
people,
because
that
vulnerability
is
very
scary.
B
B
So
sometimes
that
may
be
when
people
leave
our
homes
when
someone
passes
away
when
we
change
jobs,
when
we
have
new
members
into
the
family,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
can
cause
stressors
that
can
impact
their
mental
health
and
sometimes
those
are
good
things
right
like
getting
married
or
you
know
having
a
child.
These
are
things
that
are
normally
good
things,
but
they
add
stress
to
our
lives
and
then,
when
those
things
overwhelm
us,
it's
hard
to
share
that
I.
B
Don't
feel
well,
because
I
just
had
a
baby
or
I,
don't
feel
well,
because
I
just
got
married
or
I,
don't
feel
well,
because
I
moved
into
a
new
home,
like
those
are
things
that
people
normally
want
to
celebrate,
but
don't
understand
the
responsibilities
and
challenges
that
come
with
it
and
sometimes
that
can
make
you
feel
a
little
overwhelmed.
So
that
vulnerability
is
one
of
the
the
things
that
keeps
us
pretty
much
trapped
sometimes
and
that
stigma
going.
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C
A
Random
know
what
we
know
that
it's
difficult
to
talk
about
mental
health
in
some
community.
What
would
you
suggest
that
we
do?
What
are
the
basic
recommendation?
What
tips
that
Community
I
mean
each
Community
May
respond
to
differently
based
on
our
culture?
What
are
some
of
the
basic
recommendations
and
tips
that
you
could
share
with
us
on
on
how
we
can
reduce
this
stigma?
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B
One
of
the
easiest
things
for
us
to
do
is
awareness,
have
having
some
awareness
and
compassion
can
really
go
a
long
way
within
our
communities
being
able
to
help
share
information
being
able
to
listen
and
have
understanding
being
able
to
not
being
judgmental
are
all
good
things
that
we
can
do.
Another
thing
that's
important
is
not
trying
to
fix
people
when
they
do
share.
B
What's
going
on,
or
even
if
you're
struggling
yourself,
not
trying
to
have
people
quote,
unquote
fix
you
going
to
you
know,
receive
therapy
or
help
is
good,
and
you
can
go
do
that.
But
you
have
to
understand
that
you
have
to
do
the
work
if
it's
yourself
personally,
but
if
you
know
someone
in
the
community
or
in
your
family
who's
struggling,
try
not
to
fix
them
and
being
able
to
listen
to
them
and
hear
them
and
give
them.
B
Information
is
very
important,
sharing
information
being
able
to
talk
about
what's
going
on
and
it's
experiences
is
very
helpful,
especially
communities
of
color,
where
we
have
a
lot
of
stories
about
the
things
that
we've
gone
through
and
those
stories
help
to
educate
our
young.
It
helps
to
communicate
a
message
to
the
community
about
what
we've
overcome
and
what
we've
learned
and
I
think
mental
health
has
a
place
in
that.
Definitely
can
be
one
of
those
things
that
we
share
and
then
recognizing
the
emotional
toll
that
life
has
on.
B
So
many
people
is
important
right.
So
sometimes,
when
things
happen,
we
have
a
collective
sense
of
fear,
anger,
hopelessness,
grief
and
having
discussions
about
how
that
impacted,
us
is
very
important
and
how
we
overcame
those
things
is
also
very
important
within
Community.
We
should
pay
attention
to
and
talk
about
the
types
of
sleep
that
we
get.
If
you
notice
someone's
not
getting
enough
sleep,
you
may
want
to
encourage
them
that
they
should
rest.
B
They
should
refocus
a
little
bit
because
what
ends
up
happening
when
they
don't
get
enough
sleep
is
it
does
impact
their
mental
and
emotional
states
right.
So
you
want
to
make
sure
that
they
can
concentrate,
they
have
good
moods
and
then
the
last
thing,
I
would
say,
is
thinking
about
safety.
Sometimes
when
there's
mental
health
issues,
sometimes
things
can
be
unsafe
for
people,
so
you
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
helping
others
stay
as
safe
as
possible
and
then,
as
well
as
yourself
to
maintain
safety.
B
A
Thank
you
Brandon
and
thank
you
Paul.
We
will
come
back
after
a
short
break.
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B
Yes,
the
the
biggest
one
being
you
know
the
pandemic
and
how
that's
impacted
so
many
people
within
our
community
community
and
it's
impacted
people
from
all
ages,
all
generations-
all
ethnicities.
B
You
know
the
once
covet
cases
have
started
to
decline,
and
now
people
are
starting
to
return
to
similar
ways
of
how
we
used
to
live
prior
to
the
pandemic.
However,
we
still
have
this
kind
of
background
of
understanding
that
you
know
another
pandemic
can
come
from
anywhere.
You
know
we
had
this
scare
of
monkey
pox
not
too
long
ago.
We
haven't
heard
a
lot
about
that
recently,
but
you
know
we
have
to
look
at
our
health
and
what's
going
on
around
us,
and
that's
always
in
the
back
of
our
mind.
B
So
recently
we
just
had
young
people
go
back
to
school
for
some
for
some
people
this
was
their
first
time
going
back
to
school
without
mask
without
being
separated
from
their
classmates
and
just
kind
of
this
regular
stand
of
school
and
that's
a
stressful
for
some
students,
especially
for
those
students
who
just
started
high
school
or
just
started
middle
school
or
just
started
elementary
school
or
college.
You
know
this
is
their
first
time
going
back
to
you
know
engaging
with
other
students
in
the
particular
way,
but
adults
as
well.
B
Some
adults
are
still
working
remotely.
Some
have
never
worked
remotely
they've,
always
been
engaged
in
the
workplace
and
that
he
causes
huge
stressors
as
well.
So
you
know
we
we
idolize
what
life
would
like
what
like,
we
would
like
to
have
without
stressors,
but
there's
a
lot
of
trauma
out
there
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
going
on
in
our
everyday
lives
still
and
a
lot
of
us.
We
want
to
go
back
to
where
we
were
prior
to
the
pandemic.
B
We
want
life
to
return
to
that
normal,
but
what
we've
learned
is
that
we're
in
a
new
normal
we're
in
a
new
way
of
living
and
that's
a
stressor,
because
you
know
some
people
just
want
to
go
back
to
pre-pandemic,
but
now
that
we've
had
this
experience
for
over
two
years.
This
is
where
we
are
now,
and
this
is
how
we're
going
to
remain
as
we
move
forward.
There
are
other
stressors
as
well.
Community
violence,
there's
natural
disasters.
You
know
we're
having
we're
seeing
all
types
of
the
inflation.
B
It's
probably
one
of
the
biggest
things
that
I'm
seeing
is
financial,
a
lot
of
people
who
are
noticing
the
cost
of
living,
increasing
the
cost
of
food
increasing
you
know,
bills
are
piling
up
and
you
know
things
are
becoming
more
and
more
expensive
and
that's
stressing
people
out
so
you
you
know
people
are
talking
about
nodding,
not
wanting
to
stay
in
Minnesota,
because
it
costs
too
much
to
move
into
another
city
or
state.
It's
hard
to
find,
affordable,
rent
pay,
mortgages,
pay
bills,
and
things
like
that.
B
For
a
lot
of
Children
and
adolescents,
they're
looking
at
the
adults
in
their
lives
and
they're,
seeing
you
know,
people
are
stressed
out,
they're
burnt
out,
you
know
they're
they're
uncertain
about
what's
going
to
happen
next
and
the
young
people
are
filling
it
as
well
right
so
they're
thinking
about
you
know
what
kind
of
future
do
I
have
as
a
young
person
given
where
things
are,
what
opportunities
are
out
there?
B
You
know
having
anxiety
about
politics
and
political
things
that
are
going
on
and
then
also
just
a
lack
of
feeling
safe,
whether
you're
in
community
or
not,
safety
has
always
been
a
big
concern.
But
if
you
turn
on
the
news
any
day,
you're
hearing
a
lot
of
negative
things
what's
happening,
Downtown
Minneapolis,
what's
happening
in
neighborhoods
carjacking,
so
there's
a
lot
of
overwhelming
things
that
are
happening
that
are
impacting
our
Mental
Health.
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B
Yes,
the
biggest
impact
is
that
we're
seeing
a
rise
in
people
going
to
receive
mental
health
treatment
services
and
the
diagnosis
of
depression
and
anxiety
are
both
increasing
amongst
people,
and
this
doesn't
necessarily
mean
it's
a
bad
thing.
What
this
is
really
saying
is
that
people
are
getting
help,
which
is
a
great
thing.
We
want
people
to
get
access
to
help
and
to
engage
with
professionals
when
necessary,
but
we
are
seeing
that
adults
are
expressing
more
depressive
and
anxiety
symptoms
and
what
these
symptoms
look
like.
B
Are
you
know
you're
noticing
changes
in
their
appetite
changes
in
their
sleep,
so
they
may
be
eating
more
or
eating
a
lot
less.
They
may
be
sleeping
more
or
sleeping
a
lot.
Less.
Their
activity
levels
have
changed.
They
may
not
be
as
engaged
in
normal
day-to-day
activities
as
they
like,
or
they
may
be
increasing
things
that
are
unhealthy
activities
in
their
lives.
B
Some
people
are
having
what's
called
ruminating
thoughts,
so
they're
overthinking
things
or
they're
over
consumed
with
their
mindsets
and
their
or
they're
over
consumed
with
the
things
that
are
happening
with
in
their
minds.
Impulsive
thoughts.
So
thinking
about
things
like
I'm,
not
good
enough
I'm,
not
smart
enough
I'm
getting
too
old,
you
know,
I
I,
know
I,
you
know,
I
can't
keep
going
like
this
I'm
stressed
out.
They
may
have
impulsive
thoughts
as
well.
Self-Harm
is
another
thing
that
ends
up
happening,
so
people
start
to
hurt
themselves.
B
They
may
you
know,
bite
themselves
or
cut
themselves
or
burn
themselves
things
of
that
nature.
There
is
also
the
increase
of
helplessness,
hopelessness,
irritability
and
then
increased
feelings
of
worthlessness
that
happens
for
a
lot
of
people
who
start
to
express
both
depressive
and
anxiety
symptoms.
B
But
one
of
the
key,
the
key
signs
of
both
depression
and
anxiety
is
when
people
start
to
lose
interest
in
their
normal
day-to-day
activities,
the
things
that
bring
them
pleasure
being
around
their
kids,
playing
with
their
pets
being
around
friends
being
around
their.
You
know
their
partner,
whatever
that
case
may
be
when
people
start
to
lose
interest
in
those
things,
that's
usually
a
sign
that
something's
going
on
now
with
adults,
that's
typically
with
adults,
but
with
children.
B
Things
can
look
a
little
different,
just
a
little
different
with
children,
children
start
to
have
children.
Typically,
they
don't
tell
us.
What's
going
on
they'll
act
out
what's
happening
and
as
adults
we
have
to
pay
attention
to
pay
attention
to
their
behaviors
for
us
to
kind
of
help.
Understand
what's
happening.
So
you
may
see
these
anger,
outbursts
that
happen
with
youth,
especially
with
young
people
who
don't
typically
get
angry,
start
to
notice
their
levels
of
frustration
increase.
You
may
see
some
students
or
some
young
people
who
are
bored.
B
You
know
they
just
get
super
bored
and
they
start
to
not
want
to
do
things
like
they
normally
do
and
they
isolate
they're,
just
buried
on
their
phone
or
on
their
iPad,
or
you
know,
on
the
TV
or
the
video
games
and
they're
not
really
connecting
with
people.
Normally.
A
lot
of
escapism
ends
up
happening
here.
B
You
also
might
see
them
at
school
where
they
feel
like
they
don't
really
care
about
school
they're,
not
thinking
about
the
future
they're
not
intact,
they're,
not
they're,
not
engaged
in
school
and
as
much
as
they
normally
would
do
some
other
signs,
and
hopefully
you're
not
seeing
these.
But
these
are
things
that
can
happen.
You
may
see
bedwetting
happen,
increased
levels
of
nightmares
for
young
people,
you
may
see
see
them
refusing
to
do
their
schoolwork.
C
A
Brendan,
what
can
I
do
if
I
become
aware
of
those
symptoms
that
you
just
you
share
and,
and
also
you
know,
become
aware
of
the
symptom
in
myself
or
I.
I,
see
the
symptoms
in
other
people
that
I
know
and
I
I.
You
know
that
I
love
in
their
my
family
members.
What
can
I
do
to
to
you
know
to
find
the
help
that
I
needed
random.
B
Yeah
there's
a
lot
of
tangible
things
that
we
all
can
do,
and
one
of
the
best
things
that
we
can
do
is
understand
that
mental
health
is
not
in
isolation.
You
know
people
often
feel
alone
when
they're
struggling
with
mental
health
issues,
and
we
have
to
come
together
as
a
community.
B
One
of
the
best
things
we
can
do
is
awareness
awareness
is
the
Catalyst
for
Change,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
when
we're
showing
up
for
people
who
are
struggling,
that
they
are
surrounded
by
love
and
people
who
care
about
them
and
want
to
see
them,
you
know
in
in
the
best
places
they
can
be.
So
you
know
seek
support
is
one
of
the
best
things.
B
If
you
know
people
that
you
can
make
referrals
to
do
so,
but
always
be
willing
to
ask
the
individual
who's
struggling
or
yourself,
what
do
I
need
and-
and
if
it's
you
who's
struggling,
don't
be
afraid
to
ask
for
help
and
ask
for
some
assistance
and,
if
you're
helping
someone
else,
ask
them
what
they
need
and
what
will
be
helpful
to
them,
instead
of
just
taking
action.
Sometimes
it's
about
that
communication
that
helps
us
learn
how
to
take
the
best
care
of
ourselves
and
what
other
people
need.
B
B
Continue
to
check
up
on
that
person
continue
to
ask
if
that
person
needs
things,
because
they
may
not
be
at
the
moment
ready
to
receive
the
help,
but
if
they
realize
that
you're
there
for
them
that
you're
showing
up
that
you
care,
they
may
be
willing
to
take
some
of
that
help
later
on,
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I
would
throw
in
there,
too
is
for
young
people,
because
a
lot
of
times
they're
struggling
with
things
that
we
don't
always
pick
up
on
it.
B
So
if
you,
if
you
notice
that
a
young
person
is
not
doing
well
pay
attention
to
their
surroundings,
are
they
engaging
with
their
friends?
Are
they
engaging
in
their
school
work?
Are
they
you
know?
Are
they
trying
to
do
things
that
lead
to
fun?
Are
they
spending
time
within
their
family?
These
are
all
great
things
to
pay
attention
to
and
then
invite
them
in
to
do
those
things
to
be
social,
because
that's
what
young
people
do
they
like
to
socialize.
B
C
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
time
that
you
took
to
come
on
among
radio
and
share
this
very
important
informations
and
resources
for
among
listeners
and
I
will
continue
to
provide
additional
information
to
them
that
we
ran.
We
ran
out
of
time
today.
It
is
it's
the
first
time
that
I
ran
out
of
time,
because
without
go
through
all
the
questions
that
I
have,
because
this
is
such
an
important
topics
and
I
would
love
to
have
you
come
back.
A
You
know
our
community.
You
mentioned
about
the
history
that
your
family
history
impact
your
trauma
impact.
You
know
the
mental
health
in
your
family.
We
are
the
Hmong
Community
is
a
refugee
community
that
we
went
through
a
lot
of
trauma
during
the
war
and
it
impacted
peoples
differently.
But
again,
thank
you.
So
much
for
coming
up
on
bang
radio
I
look
forward
to
bring
you
back
again
and
have
still
have
more
questions
for
you.
So
thank
you
again
for
taking
time
of
your
busy
schedule
to
be
with
us
today.